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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: That is right, another Fox Football Saturday with F and A.

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Speaker 2: I am Kevin Figures at kfig one is where you

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Speaker 2: can find me on X He is Adam Allston. You

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Speaker 2: can find him on X at follow Adam. A got

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Speaker 2: a big show coming up tonight, Adam, I.

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Speaker 3: Would say, so we got the return of geek News

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Speaker 3: after we got through my horribly long Halloween movie list

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Speaker 3: marathon over a three week span last week. Finally, because

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Speaker 3: you know it's November now, so we'll talk about video games,

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Speaker 3: little video game fact of the week, so.

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Speaker 2: We don't have the Thanksgiving lineup of movies coming up

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Speaker 2: this week.

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Speaker 3: With thanks Killing in there, and you know the turkey

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Speaker 3: that comes out and comes after all the humans. We'll

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Speaker 3: get to that eventually as we get closer and closer

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Speaker 3: and talk about our favorite sides, because that's like the

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Speaker 3: Thanksgiving of ketchup on a hot dog. Doesn't belong their

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Speaker 3: conversations on Sportstoft Radio, Well.

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Speaker 2: Of course. Well you could be like my wife who

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Speaker 2: just prefers all sides, doesn't want any main courses.

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Speaker 3: So I mean the sides might be the best part sometimes. Now,

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Speaker 3: if you make the right combo with the turkey and

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Speaker 3: get some stuffing in there and gravy so it's not

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Speaker 3: too dry. Okay, we'll get into this in a few weeks.

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Speaker 2: Mike ry fine, Fine, coming up later.

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Speaker 3: Mike Sander's gonna join us from the athletic. Of course,

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Speaker 3: he had the QB Tier list that made a ton

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Speaker 3: of news before this season started. We'll catch up with

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Speaker 3: him as we are past the midway point of the

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Speaker 3: NFL season. But I don't think we're starting with any

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Speaker 3: of that yet. We got other stuff to talk about.

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Speaker 3: Let's get into first off here, Kevin, Let's do.

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Speaker 4: It the time.

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Speaker 2: Let's wrong.

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Speaker 3: Weat them boys, them cowboys. This is what's funny to me.

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Speaker 3: Jerry Jones and the media both do the exact same

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Speaker 3: thing to one another. They use each other for the

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Speaker 3: same purposes. Jerry Jones wants attention. The media wants to

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Speaker 3: use his sound bites to also garner attention, playing off

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Speaker 3: of whatever he said with talking heads then analyzing it

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Speaker 3: and saying how dumb he is for doing this or that,

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Speaker 3: And it's like it's a self fulfilling prophecy or just

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Speaker 3: just feeds into itself. Everybody this week is now criticizing

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Speaker 3: them for making a trade a different one this time.

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Speaker 3: I just I don't understand it. They're the same, They're

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Speaker 3: the same.

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Speaker 2: I get it to a degree. It's to your point,

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Speaker 2: it's a self perpetuating loop because with these talking head

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Speaker 2: shows in general, the people complain that they always talk

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Speaker 2: about the same thing. It's Lebron, it's the Cowboys, it's

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Speaker 2: the Lakers. There's a reason why that's the case is

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Speaker 2: because that's what people around the country most often want

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Speaker 2: to talk about. Jerry knows that, so Jerry can say anything.

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Speaker 2: He'll say the most offul wall thing, and he knows

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Speaker 2: that's gonna be the lead topic on the talking head shows.

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Speaker 2: So Jerry says things to try to get a pub

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Speaker 2: for the Cowboys. Those shows do it because they know

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Speaker 2: people are gonna watch. So it's like the whole recycled

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Speaker 2: reduce reuse. Just just fill the loop in, that's all

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Speaker 2: it is. And then we saw Cowboys, Jerry talks, we

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Speaker 2: talk about what Jerry said, and the cycle continues.

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Speaker 3: And we are currently guilty of it doing it in

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Speaker 3: our a block like everybody else does. But he uses

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Speaker 3: their platform on these networks to help promote the Cowboys

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Speaker 3: and keep them relevant. They all act like they don't

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Speaker 3: want to talk about it or it's just more Cowboys drama,

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Speaker 3: but they love it. They eat it up, and then

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Speaker 3: they crucify him when he makes another move.

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Speaker 2: This is the thing.

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Speaker 3: The Cowboys have made some bad moves over the years.

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Speaker 3: We know this many so whenever whenever they make a

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Speaker 3: good move, it's like, oh, it's still just crazy Jerry Jones.

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Speaker 3: We can't give anyone any credit. I think that's happening

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Speaker 3: here with what they just did this week. Kevin, I

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Speaker 3: have to say the Williams trade, the Quentin Williams trade,

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Speaker 3: to me, actually makes sense in a lot of ways.

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Speaker 3: But he's still getting blasted because it's Jerry Jones.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Jerry's gonna get a lesson until the Cowboys

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Speaker 2: win a championship. While Jerry Jones is still the owner

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Speaker 2: and still around, he's going to continue to get criticized

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Speaker 2: for every single thing that he does. But he puts

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Speaker 2: he's also the general manager who speaks to the media

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Speaker 2: after every single solitary game. He's the only person that

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Speaker 2: Adam respects it to a degree because he's willing to

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Speaker 2: He's willing to make crazy moves trading Micah Parsons away,

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Speaker 2: not hide behind it.

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Speaker 3: So we can go back to where we were when

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Speaker 3: we heard about the Micah Parsons trade and how that

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Speaker 3: ties into what happened this week as well during the

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Speaker 3: trade deadline, specifically with the Cowboys here. My position then was,

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Speaker 3: I can't justify paying Micah Parsons almost fifty million a

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Speaker 3: year for this Cowboys team because he's not going to

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Speaker 3: put them over the top. They got too many issues

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Speaker 3: going on. The defense was bad last season with him,

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Speaker 3: but I understand it for Green Bay. Now, I was

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Speaker 3: waiting to see what what else happened with this Cowboys team,

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Speaker 3: either through the draft with the picks they got for

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Speaker 3: they've made a move for a defensive tackle, and not

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Speaker 3: just a defensive tackle, maybe the best run stopper in

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Speaker 3: the game at least according to Pro Football Focus, and

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Speaker 3: we take their word as gospel.

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Speaker 2: I guess, well, to start to a certain degree. I

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Speaker 2: mean a PFF doesn't necessarily know like certain guys, certain schemes.

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Speaker 2: They just look at individual players to discount what they do.

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Speaker 2: Never wrong, but I won't say that they're never wrong,

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Speaker 2: but they're on top of it. One thing I will

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Speaker 2: say Adham though, and I was critical of the Parsons trade.

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Speaker 2: We disagreed about this and debated about it a couple

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Speaker 3: It was a good one.

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Speaker 2: I will say this. This is a pretty damn good

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Speaker 2: recovery from that. So if you look at the fallout

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Speaker 2: from the Parsons trade and the Quinn Williams trade, here's

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Speaker 2: essentially what happened. Dallas ended up getting Kenny Clark, Quinn Williams,

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Speaker 2: saving by not signing Parsons to that giant deal. What

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Speaker 2: they end up losing Micah Parsons, a second round pick,

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Speaker 2: at the end of the day, it doesn't really look

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Speaker 3: And they probably oversold how good he was to the

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Speaker 3: we got Kenny Clark out of this, and he's going

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Speaker 2: The run hasn't helped at all, to be honest with you. Now,

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Speaker 2: Quinn Williams definitely should help to a certain degree. I

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Speaker 2: think he's not the same player he was a couple

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Speaker 2: and he'll end up helping and shoring up that defensive front,

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Speaker 2: but still having another first round pick. You have two

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Speaker 2: to be able to sign other players. I still would

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Speaker 2: not have traded Michael Parsons because I don't think you

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Speaker 2: trade away great players. I think you try to fortify

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Speaker 2: and build around them. But all things considered, I think

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Speaker 2: they could have done a lot worse. All of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: now that we make out here after the trade deadline,

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Speaker 2: where they sit now and how this sets them up

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Speaker 2: for the future because Quentin Williams, by the way, is

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Speaker 2: for the next couple of years.

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Speaker 3: Now to go back to skewering the national media because

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Speaker 3: I'm a hater and a self hater because I think

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Speaker 3: we're a part of the national media. They've been saying,

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Speaker 3: why do this now you're three five and one. You

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Speaker 3: can't save the season. Last time I checked, you just

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Speaker 3: mentioned it. Williams is not a rental. He's going to

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Speaker 3: be around for at least two more seasons. He apparently

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Speaker 3: was looking for an extension with the Jets, so he

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Speaker 3: might get one from the Cowboys at some point. He's

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Speaker 3: turning twenty eight in December. I still think he's in

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Speaker 3: his prime, especially when it comes to stopping the run.

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Speaker 3: I know the sack numbers are down a little bit

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Speaker 3: this year. Some of that stuff can always be circumstantial.

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Speaker 3: I remember in like Julius Pepper's third or fourth year,

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Speaker 3: when he should have been at his best. He had

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Speaker 3: a two or three sax season out of nowhere. He

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Speaker 3: never the guy to bring down the quarterback. So I

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Speaker 3: don't put everything into that. But this is not some reactionary,

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Speaker 3: reflexive move to just quiet the criticism after trading Micah Parsons.

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Speaker 3: This is not a shot in the dark. This is

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Speaker 3: not a high risk, high reward move. It's low risk. Actually,

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Speaker 3: he's on a decent contract. He's making over twenty million

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Speaker 3: less per season than Micah Parsons is and they only

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Speaker 3: gave up one of the first round picks they got

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Speaker 2: And when he's up for an extension, either at the

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Speaker 2: end of this season or next season, whenever he wants it,

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Speaker 2: even as one of the better interior alignment in the NFL,

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Speaker 2: he's still gonna garner less than with someone like Marca

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Speaker 2: Parsons as a premier pass rusher is going to garner

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Speaker 2: out there on the market, So they're gonna save money

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Speaker 2: just based on that, and also the idea that this

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Speaker 2: season is completely over for them. I don't think they're

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Speaker 2: gonna make the postseason, but the possibility is still there.

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Speaker 2: They're only two games out of the final wildcard spot.

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Speaker 2: At this point in time, we know they can score

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Speaker 2: a lot of points. I mean, when this is all

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Speaker 2: now granted last week against the Cardinals, notwithstanding.

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Speaker 3: Generally speaking, you called that, Kevin, I said that was

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Speaker 3: going to happen, and it did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Generally speaking, this team is gonna score twenty between

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Speaker 2: twenty four and thirty one points every single week. Their

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Speaker 2: defense just kills them week in and week out. If

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Speaker 2: their defense can just be half decent, there's no reason

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Speaker 2: to believe that they can't inch their way back into

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Speaker 2: this race. They do have a tough schedule coming up.

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Speaker 2: But I would I would pause for people saying that

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Speaker 2: this is a move for the future and that they

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Speaker 2: can't potentially compete this year because we can score points

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Speaker 2: the way that they can score. Their defense just need

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Speaker 2: to be average or close to average, and I think

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Speaker 2: they still have a chance to be able to make

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Speaker 2: a run this year.

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Speaker 3: So it's not just a long term move. It's not

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Speaker 3: just a short term gain for long term pain or

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Speaker 3: something it makes sense for now in the future. It's

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Speaker 3: not an over compensation move where you're reckless because you

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Speaker 3: just want to bring in somebody to make up for

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Speaker 3: the loss of Micah Parsons. And you're saying they still

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Speaker 3: have a chance. Cowboys fans are like, don't give me hope,

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Speaker 3: don't never.

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Speaker 2: Tell Well, they'll end up crushing it in the first

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Speaker 2: round of the wildcard round anyway, you know that.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, they have a history of how many playoff

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Speaker 3: But I would argue neither was Michael Parsons. He was

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying that he's a better player than Michael Parsons.

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Speaker 3: I just look, they have nine of their eleven offensive

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Speaker 3: I think the Cowboys maybe they lucked into this to

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Speaker 3: You're saying, it's like Nico Harrison acting like it was

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Speaker 2: That's basically how it or.

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Speaker 3: Shipped the fat out. I'm not going to call for

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Speaker 2: I think two and seven. Now they lost.

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Speaker 3: They're in complete shambles. Kyrie is out for maybe the

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Speaker 2: Well here's the issue too, And not to get too

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Speaker 2: But when moves of that magnitude are made, you really

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Speaker 2: I'll say this, He's the front man for it. He's

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Speaker 3: I'll say this from what I heard the New ownership group.

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Speaker 3: Nico and somebody's telling me to do this move, I

436
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Speaker 3: am going to quit because it's going to hurt me

437
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Speaker 3: getting that next job. If I trade Luka Doncic, who's

438
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Speaker 3: top five in MVP odds right now and looks better

439
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Speaker 3: than ever, like, I can't let that happen. I do

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Speaker 3: think this was mostly on Nico and arrogance and ego

441
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Speaker 3: and his relationship with Rapaulnka and the fact that mama mentality.

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Speaker 3: You gotta have mama mentality, and because Luka Doncic didn't,

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Speaker 3: he thought it was okay to ship him out. I

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Speaker 3: just and then, as you mentioned, Anthony Davis now comes

445
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Speaker 3: in over it. Wait, it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Now it look looks like he has the mom mentality

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Speaker 3: All right, Kevin, I hear you gotta take because there's

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Speaker 3: something you don't like that happened this week with the

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Speaker 3: first edition of the college football rankings being released here.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know where you want me to start.

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Speaker 2: First of all, this happens every single year when it

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Speaker 2: comes to these polls, which is why I'm just generally

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Speaker 2: not a fan of polls and subjectivity in general and

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Speaker 2: determining who the best teams are, who ends up making

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Speaker 2: the postseason and all that. Jazz. Let me ask you

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Speaker 2: a question, Adam. Okay, Notre Dame checks in at number

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Speaker 2: ten on the CFP ranking, copy eight spots ahead of

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Speaker 2: the University of Miami. Both teams are six and two,

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00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 2: and last time I checked, the University of Miami defeated

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame to open the season. So explain to me

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Speaker 2: how the University of Miami at six and two is

482
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Speaker 2: eight spots behind Notre Dame at six and two. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna explain to me.

484
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna big brain this, I'm gonna do it. I

485
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 3: can do this.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead.

487
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Speaker 3: Miami's lost two of their last three. They don't look

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Speaker 3: the same as they did early in the season when

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Speaker 3: they beat Notre Dame.

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Speaker 2: All right, so we're going off of the recency bias

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Speaker 2: and who's playing well now and who's the best team

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Speaker 2: at this point in time. Sure, I'll give you that.

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Speaker 2: If they hadn't played each other had to head on

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Speaker 2: the field. What does the resume matter at that point

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Speaker 2: in time if we're just it's literally just style points

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Speaker 2: at that point in time, which is part of the

497
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Speaker 2: subjectivity matter that I hate about this whole situation. Miami

498
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 2: and Notre Dame played each other on the field, and

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Speaker 2: Miami beat them. It doesn't matter when it happened. It

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Speaker 2: was this calendar year, it was this season. Played on

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Speaker 2: the field, Miami beat them. They have the exact same record.

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Speaker 2: If you want to argue the resume part about it, Adam, fine,

503
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Speaker 2: then put Notre Dame one spot behind Miami or one

504
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Speaker 2: spot I had, maybe, but there's no justification to have

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Speaker 2: Miami eight spots by Notre Dame when they beat them

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Speaker 2: on the field, because if that's the case, why even

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Speaker 2: play the games? What's the point?

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Speaker 3: So you don't think getting later into the season that

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Speaker 3: a team could erode or improve.

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Speaker 2: One thousand They can absolutely.

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Speaker 3: And which side is Miami on there? Are they getting better?

512
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 3: They get worse.

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Speaker 2: Sure they're getting worse, but they beat them on the field.

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Speaker 2: It'd be different if Miami had two losses and Notre

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Speaker 2: Dame had one, then maybe I'll be able to be

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Speaker 2: more of an argument. But you can't act like the

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Speaker 2: you can't act like the game on the schedule just

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Speaker 2: didn't matter. Why did they play the game? What does

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Speaker 2: the game matter? Then?

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Speaker 3: I think it's a factor. But Notre Dame's other loss

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Speaker 3: is close to Texas A and M who's number three

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Speaker 3: in the college football rankings. Miami's lost to SMU and Louisville.

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Speaker 2: Great, they also beat Notre Dame on the field. If

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Adam, they're talking about this, there's no justification.

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Speaker 2: There isn't. You can give me common opponents and common

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Speaker 2: and they're gonna have a common opponent at the end

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Speaker 2: of the season. They both end up playing Pitt who's

528
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Speaker 2: climbed up and played really well in the ACC recently.

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Speaker 2: So maybe that's gonna be a common denominator to figure

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Speaker 2: out how this thing plays out. The AEC in general

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Speaker 2: hasn't gotten a lot of love, by the way, just

532
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Speaker 2: based on these rankings. No, they haven't wish to a degree.

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Speaker 2: I guess they understand because they don't really have a

534
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Speaker 2: lot of rating points in their in their favor. Their schedules,

535
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Speaker 2: trendth of schedule is not up there. When it comes

536
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 2: to the SEC in the Big Ten. But that's the

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Speaker 2: most glary thing for me is why are we scheduling

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Speaker 2: non conference bold non conference games? If you're telling me

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Speaker 2: in my face that if I beat a team that

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Speaker 2: is a CFP contender like Notre Dame, that I don't

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Speaker 2: even have a seat at the table, despite the fact

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Speaker 2: that I beat them on the field, I mean part

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Speaker 2: that makes no sense to me.

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Speaker 3: I'm old enough to remember when Florida State beat Bama

545
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Speaker 3: early in the season. What did that mean?

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Speaker 2: Nothing?

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Speaker 3: Nothing. Florida State's miserable, They're awful.

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Speaker 2: But Alabama. Look who they've beaten since then. They've beaten Tennessee,

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Speaker 2: They've beaten all these top teams. So and also, if

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Speaker 2: Florida State was still good, if Florida State actually had

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Speaker 2: recovered and Florida State was playing was still playing well,

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Speaker 2: and they only had one loss, just like Alabama, I'd

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Speaker 2: be saying the exact same thing, despite the fact that

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Speaker 2: Alabama would have all these ranked wins, and despite the

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Speaker 2: fact that Florida State will be playing in a weak ACC.

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Speaker 3: Look, I think you have a good argument. I'm just

557
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Speaker 3: posing what must have been said by the committee. Now

558
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 3: they are rivals, and I'm sounded more like their former

559
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 3: coach Al Golden here with his playclock and last two

560
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Speaker 3: minutes issues going on.

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Speaker 2: Miami has that continue going on with Mario Christobal in

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Speaker 2: the last couple of years, and that very little has

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Speaker 2: changed on that front.

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Speaker 3: Where would you put them? Where would you have both

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Speaker 3: of these teams? If you're arguing, if you're a committee member,

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Speaker 3: what's your argument and where are you ranking them?

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm probably moving Notre Dame down at least a

568
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Speaker 2: couple of spots, and I'm moving Miami up. The fact

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Speaker 2: that they defeated Notre Dame, and Notre Dame has recovered

570
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Speaker 2: and played as well as they've played, and they had

571
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Speaker 2: that lost to Texas Tech. I can justify both of

572
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Speaker 2: them being in the fifteen to sixteen range ish, that's fine.

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Speaker 3: Would you have Miami in front of them or behind them,

574
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Speaker 3: but just not buy as many spots as they currently are.

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Speaker 2: I would have Miami in front of them, but by

576
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Speaker 2: now as many spots behind as Notre Dame. There's not

577
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Speaker 2: an eight game gap between the two, and I can

578
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 2: acknowledge that Notre Dame is a better team right now.

579
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Speaker 2: I can potentially say that, but they still beat them

580
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Speaker 2: on the field, and so that has to count for something,

581
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Speaker 2: And honestly, that has to be the ultimate trump card

582
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Speaker 2: on top of anything else that happens. Unless the only

583
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Speaker 2: cavity I'll throw in there at him is if an

584
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 2: important player is hurt CJ. Carr didn't play for Notre Dame,

585
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 2: or there was another key player who was out and

586
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 2: they ended up losing that game. Jeremiah Love a great player,

587
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 2: one of the best running backs in the entire nation.

588
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 2: If he was out and they lost that game, it'd

589
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Speaker 2: be different. I think that changes the factor a little bit.

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Speaker 2: But opening weekend, everybody's healthy and Notre Dame lost.

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Speaker 3: Let me pick it something though, because you did say

592
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Speaker 3: that you think they're better today than Miami.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think the.

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Speaker 3: Spread would be if they were playing today? Between these

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Speaker 3: two teams?

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame will probably favored by a touchdown at least.

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Speaker 3: Well, does it not matter where both teams are at

598
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Speaker 3: today versus what happened back in week one or.

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Speaker 2: Two absent injury, No, it does not.

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Speaker 3: Head to head to you takes priorities still over that hell, even.

601
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 2: Though you had hit to head takes priority over every

602
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 2: single solitary thing you throw at me unless there was

603
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 2: a significant injury factor in that game.

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Speaker 3: But you're saying you think Notre Dame is better today?

605
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And I will acknowledge that it's a made

606
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 2: for TV product and you want the best matchups and

607
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 2: it's on all that. I I can acknowledge all of that,

608
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 2: but you diminish every single argument gets diminished if you're

609
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 2: telling me that it had to head matchup. AB's an

610
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 2: injury factor, doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: What if Miami just had better losses though? What if

612
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 3: they didn't have their two losses being Louisville an SMU

613
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Speaker 3: because they look so down upon the ECC.

614
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Speaker 2: Louisville is not a bad team, by the sure.

615
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 3: And SMU was in the playoff last year obviously as

616
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 3: a new year, but this is I think it's what

617
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 3: have you done for me recently? And maybe bias against ACC,

618
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 3: maybe bias for Notre Dame.

619
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Speaker 2: Hell.

620
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Speaker 3: I always think Notre Dame is overrated, but it's not

621
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Speaker 3: like Miami is nobody's and they would like side with

622
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 3: Notre Dame over them. Miami's got plenty of support too.

623
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Speaker 3: I just think they're looking at these two losses in

624
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 3: over the last three games here, and they just don't

625
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 3: have outside the Notre Dame victory because FSU is so

626
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 3: bad they beat them with FSU was still ranked eighteenth

627
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 3: twenty eight to twenty two Miami.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, bying me had a couple of ranked wins that

629
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Speaker 2: are no longer ranked, so that doesn't help them.

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Speaker 3: FSU and Clemson are killing the ACC with how bad

631
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Speaker 3: they've been.

632
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Speaker 2: Yeah, those are supposed to be the two flag bearers

633
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 2: for the conference at this point and they aren't. So

634
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 2: the ACC right now is basically only going to get

635
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 2: one team into the playoff. I mean, Virginia, you know,

636
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 2: comes in ranked at number fourteen as the leader of

637
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Speaker 2: the ACC, and they're the highest ranked ACC team by

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Speaker 2: the way. To go back to the Notre Dame point,

639
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 2: they're just a ringer in this whole situation because basically,

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Speaker 2: regardless of who they scheduled, Notre Dame can go ten

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Speaker 2: and two every year and basically guarantee themselves a spot

642
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Speaker 2: in the playoff. I agree, which I don't know if

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Speaker 2: is necessarily fair either.

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Speaker 3: Before last year where they actually showed up in some

645
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 3: big games and obviously got to the national title game

646
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Speaker 3: or to the the tournament final.

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Speaker 2: In fairness to them, I mean, they made it to

648
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 2: a BCS title game with Brian Kelly. They've made it.

649
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 2: They made it to the but you remember.

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Speaker 3: That season and how many close wins and the Stanford

651
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 3: win and like, yeah, we knew they were going to

652
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 3: get smoked in that game. I can't stand how every

653
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 3: year Notre Dame is so overrated. But how much do

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00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 3: you factor in what happened last season with them meeting

655
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Speaker 3: Ohio State and being competitive coming back in that game.

656
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 3: Do you think the committee, since we're dealing with humans

657
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 3: here in our computers, are also going back to that

658
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 3: and that's weighing on their minds when they're looking at them,

659
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 3: Between them and Miami.

660
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 2: I honestly think that the committee is looking at brand bias.

661
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 2: And it's not that we talked about Miamiami. It's not

662
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 2: like Miami isn't a brand, but Notre Dame is a

663
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 2: bigger brand than they are. If Notre Dame has an

664
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Speaker 2: inch a over anybody, it's the fact that they are

665
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 2: who they are. They're a national brand. They have their

666
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 2: own national TV contract with NBC and Peacock. They have

667
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 2: not even nationally international playing games in Ireland and all that.

668
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 2: Like any way that any way, shape and form that

669
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 2: this ESPN created product of the CFP can find a

670
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 2: way to get Notre Dame into the tournament. That is

671
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 2: eyeballs for them. They will try to find a way

672
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 2: to get them into the tournament. And I don't necessarily

673
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 2: blame them. If I were on the committee and I

674
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 2: was at the four letter and I was trying to

675
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 2: get eyeballs and trying to get the best matchups, you

676
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 2: get the best teams, the best viewership, I would do

677
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 2: it too. But again that's where the subjectivity part comes

678
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 2: into it.

679
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 3: So you said, entering this segment, where do I start?

680
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 3: You started with Notre Dame. What's your second biggest issue

681
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 3: with these rankings?

682
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,719
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not necessarily just the rankings in general.

683
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 2: I think I think it's just the outlook of how

684
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 2: this playoff is set up. And if it were me

685
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 2: and I know the SEC, I believe it was the

686
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 2: president Mark Keenham of Mississippi State came out earlier today.

687
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 2: He spoke with Paul Finbaum on Friday. I believe because

688
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 2: there's been this kind of contest pushing pull between the

689
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,719
Speaker 2: Big ten and the SEC, who are the power brokers

690
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 2: right now for the CFP and the new evolution of whatever.

691
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 2: It's going to end up looking.

692
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 3: Like it's the Big ten SEC Invitational. That's what people

693
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 3: are saying. This playoff is basically.

694
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 2: I mean kind of and so the Big Ten kind

695
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 2: of wants to make it even more of that. Tony Potiti,

696
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 2: their commissioner, in his initial proposal, he wanted automatic qualifiers

697
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 2: for the Big Ten, the SEC, the ACC, and the

698
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 2: Big Twelve. He wanted four aqs for the Big ten

699
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 2: in the SEC, and he won two automatic qualifiers for

700
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 2: the Big Twelve and the ACC. The SEC doesn't want

701
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 2: to do that. They want to have five conference champions

702
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 2: plus eleven at larges because it benefits them because if

703
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 2: you look up at the final rankings at the end

704
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 2: of every single season, there's anywhere between eight and ten

705
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 2: SEC teams in the top twenty every single year. So

706
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: it doesn't benefit them to have automatic qualifiers in the playoff.

707
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 2: If there are a bunch of at large, there's eleven

708
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 2: at largest, there's a chance the SEC is going to

709
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 2: get six to seven teams into the playoffs years than not.

710
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 3: So we've got four top ten teams right now.

711
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, four, and that's gonna happen all the time,

712
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 2: whether it's brand bias, whether the conference is just that good,

713
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 2: you know, however you want to slice it. But Eli

714
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 2: drink Wentz is the head coach at Missouri and he's

715
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 2: the one person in the SEC who disagrees with the

716
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 2: rest of the conference and saying that there shouldn't be aqs.

717
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 2: And he says this because no disrespect to Miszoo. They're

718
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 2: kind of a bottom feeder when it comes to the SEC.

719
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 2: They're not one of the elite. And if it comes

720
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 2: down to and we're talking bringing up brand bias once again,

721
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 2: if a ten and two Alabama, I'm just using a

722
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 2: you know, throwing it in the air, just a hypothetical,

723
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 2: there's a cut line with a ten in two Alabama

724
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 2: and a ten and two Missouri team. Alabama's gonna get

725
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,719
Speaker 2: that cut We know that, we can all acknowledge that,

726
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 2: regardless of our both teams look on the field, regardless

727
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 2: of any other factor, it's because they're Alabama. And Eli

728
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 2: Drinkos is like, well, look, if we have a play

729
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 2: in game where they're ten and two, we're ten and two,

730
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 2: and there's a berth in the playoff, but the last

731
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 2: two teams of the sec in the rankings have to

732
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 2: meet each other in a play in game. Put us

733
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 2: in that situation. Let us at least earn our spot

734
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 2: on the field. But we're basically leaving up to the

735
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 2: subjectivity of a committee who we know favor Georgia, Alabama, USC, Michigan,

736
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 2: Ohio State. We don't even get a chance to prove

737
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 2: ourselves on the field.

738
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 3: You know what, I would say, Yes, we need to

739
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 3: expand the committee and give you a seat. I think

740
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 3: you can up what you're putting down. You're right, but

741
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 3: maybe you can turn the tide. You can drop the

742
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 3: Spock logic on them. I would like to do away

743
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 3: with probably all automatic qualify at least the AAC getting one.

744
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 2: So you're so, so there's that two and Mark, I

745
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 2: know we got to go in a second. There is

746
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 2: a theory out there, Adam, that we shut out the

747
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 2: group of five group of six. If you want to

748
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 2: call the PAC twelve group of six and throw them

749
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 2: in there too, we don't even give them a seat

750
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 2: at the table. Just don't worry about the American don't

751
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: worry about Conference USA, your memphisis and your Boise States.

752
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 2: Let them do something different and play in regular bowls,

753
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 2: keep them out of it and just leave it to

754
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 2: the power for and slash Notre dame. There is a

755
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 2: there is a thought out there that you would do that.

756
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 3: Boys. You stay didn't represent very well last.

757
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 2: Week, to say the least, looks pretty damn bad.

758
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 3: All right, Coming up next, we got some geek news

759
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 3: for you here on fn A.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 4: I love to power glove.

762
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 3: It's so big f and a cotton.

763
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Speaker 2: That's try Kevin figures. I'm also back with you on

764
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 2: Fox Football Saturday, broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

765
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 2: Coming up next hour, we will have the NFL six Pack.

766
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 2: Will also speak with Mike Sando covers the NFL for

767
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,760
Speaker 2: the athletic get into the Cowboys and other major trades

768
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 2: and other big storylines around the NFL as well. But

769
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Speaker 2: right now, Adam, we have geek news. You're playing D

770
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Speaker 2: and D tonight. Wanna come case this. Let's up guys,

771
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 2: this world.

772
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 3: Don't be challenged that I've been chining online with babes

773
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 3: all day.

774
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 2: Just keep a power clubs off her town race. Who

775
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 2: I said it was Kenman. Yeah.

776
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 3: Growing up in the late eighties, early nineties, you had

777
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 3: a few type of racing games. Oh, we got the

778
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 3: arcade behind us, right, we are back in the arcade.

779
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 2: I love this.

780
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 3: I hear a ski ball. But you have your simulation

781
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 3: racers like Grand Turismo made into a movie, Need.

782
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 2: For Speed was Adge Racer, Guy Ridge Racer.

783
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 3: Okay, Need for Speed was also made into a movie

784
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 3: with Aaron Paul.

785
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 2: Never saw it. Heard it sucked. I don't know. I

786
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 2: never saw it.

787
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,439
Speaker 3: It wasn't great. I saw the last few minutes. Michael

788
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 3: Keaton got uh wrangled into that somehow. But then you

789
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 3: had your real arcade style racers like Outrun, Cruising USA,

790
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 3: Super Off Roads, Spy Hunter, road Blasters, micro Machines, the

791
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 3: video game where you're like racing on a kitchen table,

792
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 3: don't get stuck in the jelly.

793
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 2: What was the game where you're riding in it like

794
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 2: a drop top and you have like a hot blonde

795
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 2: with you, and you're driving in the street and you

796
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 2: have to hit these checkpoints so you can keep on driving.

797
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 2: I forget the name of it. Out Run, Outrun that Outrun.

798
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, you only see the back of the blond hair

799
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 3: and she's next to the guy.

800
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 2: And yeah, it's.

801
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 3: It was one of the better games that was poorted

802
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 3: over to the Sega Genesis I.

803
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 2: Think, right right, because that was definitely an Arkae game. First.

804
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 2: I wasted a lot of quarters on that game. I

805
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 2: remember now.

806
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 3: Of course you had your cart racers like Mario Kart, Crash,

807
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 3: Team Racing, Diddy Kong Racing, and then for the waterworks

808
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 3: you had Wave Race, Jet Moto and if you were

809
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,280
Speaker 3: into motorcycles, Super hang On and of course road Rash.

810
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 2: I mean road Rash is the king, right.

811
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 3: I think?

812
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 2: So all these games, though, steal a baton to start

813
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: beating the crap out of somebody. I mean, how do

814
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 2: you beat that?

815
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 3: You take the baton from the cop and then use

816
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 3: it against.

817
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 2: You get a chain too? You can't get a chain.

818
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 3: It's right, These games, though, were We're all missing something.

819
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 3: There was a hole in the market. Even though you

820
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 3: had some violence in Road Rash, and yes, Mario Kart

821
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 3: had the balloon battles that you could do, but the

822
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 3: main objective was still winning the race. What if it

823
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 3: was just blowing your enemies to bits. What if it

824
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 3: was like Mortal Kombat but with cars, Well that would

825
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 3: be the itch twisted, metal.

826
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 2: Scratched for us. I was gonna say that was Twisted Metal. Yeah.

827
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 2: It wasn't even really a race, was it. You just

828
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: just drove around and just tried to destroy people, that's all.

829
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 3: It was just shooting rockets and missiles and napalm. And

830
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 3: last Wednesday, November fifth, the original Twisted Metal for PlayStation

831
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 3: with the original gray controller, not even like the dual Shock.

832
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 3: This is nineteen ninety five. It turned thirty and there.

833
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just tells me how old I am.

834
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 3: I know these things always do, these video game anniversaries.

835
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 3: There's been ten Twisted Metal games now and a TV

836
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 3: show on Peacock, so you know, I haven't watched it yet,

837
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 3: but actually I heard it's good. It got a season

838
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 3: two that just dropped this past summer. People are telling me,

839
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 3: like they know I love Twisted Metal, you gotta check

840
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 3: out the show. So I got some facts here for

841
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 3: Twisted Metal.

842
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 2: Because I was gonna ask you who your favorite Twisted

843
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:16,959
Speaker 2: Metal character was. Outlaw the cop I like the games.

844
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 2: Who wrote the pink Lowrider. I forget his name, but

845
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 2: that was part of guy yeah.

846
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 3: With the hydraulics, Yeah, the Lowrider. The idea for the

847
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 3: game actually came about when The developers were stuck on

848
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,959
Speaker 3: the four h five in the early nineties and they joked,

849
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 3: wouldn't it be cool if you could just blow through

850
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 3: all this traffic with missiles like.

851
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 2: That is the most amazing thing ever. I love it.

852
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 3: Their pitch to Sony was it's like Doom but in cars.

853
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 3: The original name for it was Battle Cars, which is

854
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 3: real really on the nose, but the pitch did work.

855
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 3: It got greenlit, and they actually played a lot of

856
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 3: Doom and Mario Kart in battle mode to harness their idea.

857
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 3: Now Sweet Tooth the main character the clown driving the

858
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 3: ice ice cream truck like the mascot of the franchise.

859
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 3: Basically that's from not It Not, That's Stephen King movie

860
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 3: It which they got a new show from Maximum Overdrive,

861
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 3: a different Stephen King movie where a semi truck had

862
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 3: Green Goblin's face on it. That's where they came up

863
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 3: with the idea for Sweet Tooth. They got his face

864
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 3: on the vehicle truck.

865
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,720
Speaker 2: Green Goblin from The Spider Man Green Goblin.

866
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 3: I think so it's an eighties Stephen King movie, old school,

867
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 3: but the name went from Battle Cars, which they couldn't

868
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 3: use to because like Super Nintendo had that to Urban Assault,

869
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 3: and Microsoft had a game for that to High Octane

870
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Speaker 3: and couldn't get that name. And then they were like,

871
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Speaker 3: what do we just call it cars and Rockets?

872
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 2: We accurate deliver it would deliver a promise. I guess.

873
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 3: They eventually landed on Twisted Metal, but people weren't into

874
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 3: it at first. The focus group hated it when they

875
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Speaker 3: show it to the Sony execs because they had to

876
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Speaker 3: compromise graphics because the maps were so large, so they

877
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Speaker 3: had to scale down the graphics to fit it onto

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Speaker 3: the PlayStation CDs. They took it to the Sony execs

879
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Speaker 3: in Japan and their first question was when are you

880
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 3: going to replace the little boxes with cars? Because they

881
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 3: just the graphics were so bad.

882
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Speaker 2: Well, it's ninety five, I mean, what do you want

883
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Speaker 2: us to do?

884
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Speaker 3: My favorite was Twisted Metal three. Most people's it's two

885
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 3: or Twisted Metal Black. But great series and it's still going.

886
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Speaker 2: On Saturday with F and A Kevin Figures Adam alson

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Speaker 2: with you guys. You can hit us on the social

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Speaker 2: as kfig one is where you can find me. Find

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Speaker 2: Adam at follow Adam a our guy Eloy from Compton,

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Speaker 2: checking in as he does on an almost weekly basis there. Adam, Yeah,

903
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 2: what would a guy like that want to talk about? Yeah,

904
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Speaker 2: it's always the Kansas City Chiefs, he says, watching that

905
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 2: crap show on Thursday night. And by the way, Adam,

906
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 2: it was a crap show between the Broncos and Raiders.

907
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 2: That was a bad game. I'm gonna get into that,

908
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 2: he says, not to mention. The Chargers are falling apart,

909
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 2: losing players left and right, the Chiefs running by. They

910
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 2: played the Broncos next week, can't wait. Adam had the

911
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 2: greatest response to that, didn't you just lose the BOMs lost.

912
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 2: Did Buffalo just put it on you last week?

913
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 3: Remind was he talking smack right now?

914
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 2: It reminds me of the movie bringing on from years ago,

915
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 2: like the football players and making fun of the male

916
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 2: cheerleaders walking on. The football players are walking off the

917
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 2: field and the male chooters are like, dude, you just lost.

918
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 2: Are you giving us crap? And you sucked on the field?

919
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 2: Go to locker room.

920
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: You know, Chiefs fans, They've had a lot to puff

922
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Speaker 3: their chests out about for a long time now, and

923
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Speaker 3: they're not stopping anytime soon. I guess even after a loss.

924
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Speaker 2: Okay, well we'll see what happens. Yeah, speaking of which,

925
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Speaker 2: we do have the NFL six pack on deck.

926
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Speaker 4: Let's go time for the NFL six pack.

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Speaker 5: Six heat check.

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Speaker 2: Surrounding the NFL, with our first category being the hot

929
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Speaker 2: seat heat check the coach or player under the most

930
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Speaker 2: pressure this weekend. Adam all right, he brought it up.

931
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Speaker 3: I don't care that the Broncos won over the Raiders

932
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 3: on Thursday night. I am unmoved. I'm a statue by

933
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,439
Speaker 3: their win at home over a team being coached by

934
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:57,240
Speaker 3: Grandpa bubble Gums and Pete Carroll whoever.

935
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Speaker 2: Had the meme of Joe Biden wearing the Raiders shirt

936
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 2: as opposed to Pete Carroll's people, that's wrong, it's hysterical,

937
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 2: but it's messed up.

938
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Speaker 3: But the guy choose through six feet of bubble tape

939
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 3: gum every game, plus a bucket of Bazooka Joe and

940
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 3: takes all that shredded big league chew great flavor and

941
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 3: puts it into one side of his cheeks like a

942
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 3: squirrel harvesting nuts. Is this another form of how do

943
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 3: you do fellow kids? Like he thinks if he choose gum,

944
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 3: he'll look younger out there? Is that what Pete Carroll's

945
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 3: trying to pull off right now?

946
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Speaker 2: I don't know.

947
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:33,959
Speaker 3: It's been going on for a while.

948
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Speaker 2: He's been doing it for thirty years now. I don't

949
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Speaker 2: think he's gonna stop.

950
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Speaker 3: He's seventy four.

951
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 2: Uh.

952
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 3: There is a second year quarterback that's slightly younger, slightly

953
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 3: because he did stay in college for a while longer

954
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 3: than Chris Farley and Tommy Boy. It's Bo Nicks. And

955
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to be overly critical, but bo I

956
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 3: guess is doing some of what they're asking, Like Bo

957
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 3: knows checkdowns. Bo knows dump offs and screen passes. Bow

958
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 3: knows safety valves, Bow knows security blankets, BO knows first reads.

959
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 3: BO knows how to get out. Played by CJ. Stroud

960
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 3: and Davis Mills in the same game a week ago.

961
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Speaker 2: I will say everything before the Davis Mills CJ. Strout

962
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 2: part is totally fine if that is what is being

963
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 2: asked to do and if it's been successful in helping

964
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Speaker 2: them win, which sometimes it is.

965
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he had four touchdown passes against Dallas's defense, but

966
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Speaker 3: who doesn't. Can he do it against anyone else?

967
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

968
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Speaker 3: And can he do it when they need him to

969
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:29,479
Speaker 3: in a big game.

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Speaker 2: I do not know. Their record is good, Yeah, but.

971
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Speaker 3: They may have a limited ceiling because they need him

972
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 3: to improve and make some big throws more constant, constantly, consistently.

973
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Speaker 3: Otherwise he's Mark Sanchez with the Jets. You have already

974
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Speaker 3: made team to win now, but a QB that is

975
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 3: limiting your potential to win it. All that Jets defense

976
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Speaker 3: was championship level, sure was.

977
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Speaker 1: Now.

978
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's as turnover prone as Mark

979
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 2: Sanchez was, but he didn't have a couple of really

980
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 2: bad turnovers on Thursday night. I'll say that for sure.

981
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Speaker 3: They're second in rushing yards per game this season. Oh yeah,

982
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 3: the Denver Broncos. They have a talented number one receiver

983
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 3: in Courtland Sutton, a Super Bowl winning head coach. Everything

984
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 3: is set up to win now, but bo Nicks may

985
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Speaker 3: hold them back. And if it looks like he's Sean

986
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 3: King with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers or Tim Tebow with

987
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 3: the Broncos, a stopgap guy till they find a more

988
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 3: capable gunslinger.

989
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 2: Tim Tebow won a playoff game, Adam, he did. Yeah,

990
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,720
Speaker 2: and to the late de Marius Thomas wan a touchdown

991
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 2: against Pittsburgh.

992
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, give me a shy, I'll get it in for

993
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

994
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 3: But you can't just have a guy who's contributing here

995
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 3: to the group project. You need him leading at times,

996
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 3: presenting to the class.

997
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 2: Well.

998
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 3: If he shows that he's the weak link in big

999
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 3: games down the stretch, the reason maybe they don't win

1000
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 3: the division or losing the playoffs, he'll be putting attention

1001
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 3: pretty quickly because everything else is in place there. But

1002
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 3: if he's a place holder quarterback, bow Knicks and they

1003
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 3: top out it losing in the playoffs in the first game,

1004
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 3: it's gonna be pretty glaring if he's losing to Mahomes

1005
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 3: or Allen or Lamar Jackson or Justin Herbert in a

1006
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 3: playoff game that he's not your quarterback that you can

1007
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 3: win with at the highest level. Like he's had some

1008
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 3: good fourth quarters, they pulled out some games so far

1009
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 3: this season, but he's also put them in some really

1010
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,439
Speaker 3: tough spots with an offense that can't move the ball

1011
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 3: and a defense that has to carry them. He had

1012
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 3: trouble against the Jets, he had trouble against the Raiders.

1013
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 2: Maybe he's Dill for or.

1014
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 3: Brad Johnson and you can still win with him, but

1015
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 3: I'm not seeing that in a league that favors offense

1016
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 3: and makes it much harder to defend now that you

1017
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 3: can rely on a defense to the extent that those

1018
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 3: two quarterbacks have just mentioned did back then, bow Nicks

1019
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 3: has to improve, Kevin, he's on the hot seat for me.

1020
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 2: I think he will eventually. I don't want to put

1021
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 2: too much pressure on a guy in his sophomore campaign.

1022
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 2: And we can ask Mike sam Know about this coming

1023
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 2: up in the next segment too when it comes to

1024
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 2: bow Knicks, because I did like him coming out of college, though,

1025
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 2: I do think he was a little bit limited, and

1026
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 2: I thought he was. It sounds like a pejority if

1027
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 2: to say someone is a system guy. But gret Co

1028
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 2: seltzoldusist when he came on the show a couple of

1029
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 2: weeks ago, it was like everybody's a system guy. There's

1030
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 2: a few guys who transcend it can play in any system.

1031
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 2: Now bow Knicks hasn't quite mastered it yet. I do

1032
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 2: think he's talented enough to be able to do it.

1033
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 2: To your point, they have the championship level squad this year.

1034
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's good enough to lead them

1035
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 2: over the hump this season, but I'm not ready to

1036
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 2: say that he can't become that guy at some point

1037
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 2: in his career. It's just too soon to tell.

1038
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 3: So should I assume he's not on your hot seat

1039
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 3: heat check here?

1040
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 2: No, he's already been twice this year, by the way,

1041
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 2: So I gotta get the guy at least a little

1042
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 2: bit of a recipe.

1043
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 7: We branded that bump, we did. No, my hot sea

1044
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 7: heat check goes to your Baltimore ravens ad him. Oh yeah,

1045
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 7: everyone's excited. They won two games in a row.

1046
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 2: It looked to be slowly creeping back into the team

1047
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 2: that most of us thought they would be to come

1048
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 2: into the season. I got to tell you, the seat

1049
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 2: for this team is still simmering a little bit. No

1050
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 2: one's getting fired, by the way, no one's getting traded.

1051
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 2: I'm simply talking about their playoff outlook for this season. Now,

1052
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 2: consider the Steelers balled out last week, thoroughly dominated the Colts,

1053
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 2: ran them off the field. Maybe their defense is turning

1054
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 2: a corner and every Steeler victory puts more pressure on

1055
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 2: the Ravens to have to keep pace. Also, the way

1056
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,399
Speaker 2: the AFC looks right now, the AFC North is most

1057
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 2: likely not getting a wildcard team. Granted, there's still a

1058
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 2: lot of season to go, we're only at the halfway point.

1059
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 2: Things can change, but based on the current outlook, it's

1060
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,959
Speaker 2: win the division or bust. So yes, I will also

1061
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 2: acknowl IgE. The Ravens and Steelers haven't played yet, so

1062
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 2: that's a two game swing right there. If Baltimore finds

1063
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 2: a way to sweep the series between those two games

1064
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 2: between those two teams, that changes the entire outlook. And look,

1065
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 2: I know that Baltimore has the Browns, they have the Jets.

1066
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 2: They have the Bengals coming up on their schedule, but

1067
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 2: when you look at how they've played, especially defensively, in totality,

1068
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 2: I don't think I can. I'm ready to say that

1069
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 2: Baltimore fans can breathe a giant sigh of relief. The

1070
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 2: Bears racked up new four hundred yards against them. Miami

1071
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 2: moved the ball. They just shot themselves in the foot. Granted, Miami,

1072
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 2: that's what they do. That's why they're as bad as

1073
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 2: they are now. Derrek Henry did break out for over

1074
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 2: one hundred yards against the Dolphins last week, so that's

1075
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 2: a positive sign. I want to see him do it

1076
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 2: again against Minnesota. A Minnesota defense that played better last week.

1077
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 2: They got Andrew van Ginkle back into the lineup, one

1078
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 2: of the more underrated defensive players in the entire league,

1079
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 2: so I want to see what they do against that

1080
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 2: Brian Flores defense, one of the best defensive coordinators in

1081
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 2: the league. JJ McCarthy gave the Vikings a shot in

1082
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 2: the arm offensively against Detroit as well, and they have

1083
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 2: everything to play for in the NFC North. This is

1084
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 2: essentially a de facto playoff game for both of these teams.

1085
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 2: So I want to see how the Ravers respond this week,

1086
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 2: coming off of back to back victories on the road

1087
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 2: against the playoff contender. They win this game, Adham, maybe

1088
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 2: I will start budging a little bit in your direction

1089
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 2: when it comes to them potentially making the playoffs. But

1090
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 2: as of right now, I still don't see it. Move

1091
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 2: me wrong, Ravens. See if you can get a win

1092
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 2: over Skull in the Vikings tomorrow.

1093
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 3: If you're moving back towards my direction, you're also moving

1094
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,919
Speaker 3: towards your direction here, Kevin, because you had him going

1095
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 3: to the Super Bowl, right, Yes, I did. Now that

1096
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 3: was before a lot of things happened were unfortunate.

1097
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 2: I have a right to change my pick based on

1098
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 2: evidence of Ah.

1099
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 3: Wait a second, one in five, Adam, one in five?

1100
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 3: Come on, all right, Mark? What's up next year? In

1101
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:20,720
Speaker 3: the NFL six.

1102
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,760
Speaker 2: Pack trap game, tap, Kevin?

1103
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 3: Uh, My Panthers went into Green Bay and pulled off

1104
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 3: the biggest upset over the Packers since the AFL NFL

1105
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 3: merger back in nineteen seventy. They were thirteen and a

1106
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 3: half point dogs. How do I know that? Because I

1107
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 3: took the Packers in two on two off to cover it.

1108
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 2: They did not.

1109
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 3: It was the biggest upset in the NFL in two years,

1110
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 3: going back to the Titans winning his fourteen point underdogs

1111
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 3: in Miami in twenty twenty three, which tells you how

1112
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 3: much the Dolphins have fallen. They were fourteen and a

1113
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,959
Speaker 3: half point favorite against the team just two years ago.

1114
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 3: That was the first I think Mike McDaniel's season. He

1115
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 3: gave them hope things change. My panthers may change my

1116
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 3: mind about the direction of this franchise.

1117
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 2: All that your Panthers all of a sudden, well, if

1118
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 2: they can make the playoffs, Oh okay.

1119
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 3: They were my dark horse team to make the playoffs

1120
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 3: this season. Was that idiotic at the times? Yes, but

1121
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 3: I considering.

1122
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,479
Speaker 2: How hard you went on on their quarterback Bryce Young,

1123
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 2: I mean, it's proved me wrong.

1124
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,720
Speaker 3: It's so I can hedge basically.

1125
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 2: Well, I mean I would say that he's played better

1126
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 2: this year. He is not. He's never going to live

1127
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 2: up to the potential of a guy you traded away

1128
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 2: three first round picks and DJ Moore or whatever the

1129
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 2: hell they gave up for him. But he's he certainly

1130
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 2: looks like a capable average NFL starting quarterback right now.

1131
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 3: Oh, average guys win a lot of Super Bowls.

1132
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, right, Well, average guys can take it to

1133
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 2: the postseason. Nothing that's about it. And you know what,

1134
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 2: if you're Carolina at this point in time, as you mentioned,

1135
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 2: you'll take it.

1136
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 3: That was not an average win in Green Bay. It

1137
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 3: was not reminded me of this Steve Berline, who was

1138
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 3: the least athletic quarterback in the league at the time,

1139
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 3: the run he had at Lambeau back in ninety nine

1140
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 3: on the Packers on a play known as the draw

1141
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 3: in Carolina. This was long before the play known as

1142
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 3: the drink which happened where their owner David Tepper threw

1143
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 3: his drink in a fan's face. But I'm starting to

1144
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 3: think the Panthers could fulfill my prediction of making the playoffs.

1145
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 3: But if you're going to do that, you have to

1146
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 3: beat the bad teams to prove you're not one of them.

1147
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 3: And there's no team worse than Breeze New Orleans Saints.

1148
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 3: She ain't here tonight, and the Saints haven't been here

1149
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 3: all season.

1150
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 2: The Panthers' fine.

1151
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 3: The Panthers cannot fall into the trap of thinking they've

1152
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 3: arrived and can just show up against a team who

1153
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 3: has fans and maybe even players that are wearing paper

1154
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 3: bags with how bad they look. Bri While Kellen Moore

1155
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 3: said there were some positives last week from Tyler Schuck's

1156
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 3: performance against the Rams, I couldn't find any in a

1157
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 3: game where they only had the ball for fourteen minutes

1158
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 3: the Panthers.

1159
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 2: He finished the game and didn't get hurt.

1160
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 3: Okay, positive, there's your positive. The Panthers, though they can

1161
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 3: run the ball a little bit, they can run some

1162
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 3: clock rico doubt.

1163
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 2: Come on, who was fined.

1164
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 3: Fifteen grand for excessive thrusting on a touchdown celebration which

1165
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 3: was homage to Key and Peal sketch the two pump

1166
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 3: Chump celebration or something. He turned it. He turned it

1167
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 3: into a positive. First, he said he was starting to

1168
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 3: GoFundMe to help pay the fine. Then he revealed that

1169
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,280
Speaker 3: all the money was going to a foster care center

1170
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 3: in North Carolina. So good guy, and uh.

1171
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 2: I feel like NFL finds go to charity anyway, so.

1172
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 3: Well, this one definitely did. And to go with the

1173
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 3: foster care center. I felt like an orphan without a

1174
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 3: football family the last couple of years, without a real

1175
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 3: team to root for. But I'm starting to feel like

1176
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 3: a kid again with these Panthers, Kevin. But if they

1177
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,280
Speaker 3: fall into the trap of losing to the Saints on Sunday,

1178
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 3: they're gonna have a problem child on their hands. They

1179
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 3: don't want that. I will rage if that happens. You

1180
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 3: can already book them as my Ode Troy for the

1181
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,879
Speaker 3: rest of the season. All right, who's your traff game?

1182
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 2: Sap. We go on with the Seattle Seahawks. We'll talk

1183
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 2: to Mike Sando. I want to ask him about this

1184
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 2: because they got off to such a hot start to

1185
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 2: the season and I definitely thought that they would be

1186
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 2: good defensively. This is one of the teams that I

1187
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 2: thought will be a surprise team for a lot of

1188
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 2: people coming into the year because they have so many

1189
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 2: good young players who fly around Byron Murphy and Ernest Jones,

1190
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 2: not to mention name players like Leonard Williams and DeMarcus Lawrence.

1191
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 2: The big question for them this year is going to

1192
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 2: be their offense, and based on how last year ended.

1193
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 2: For Sam Darnold, I think a lot of people were

1194
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 2: skeptical about him as being the starter in Seattle this year,

1195
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 2: but he's answered all those questions emphatically seventy percent completions,

1196
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 2: eighth in the league in passing yards, just five interceptions,

1197
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 2: third best quarterback rating in the entire league, and doing

1198
00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 2: all of this with basically one target in JSB Smith

1199
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 2: and Jig but nine ers and forty eight receiving yards

1200
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,760
Speaker 2: fifty eight catches. Their second leading receiver, Cooper Cup twenty

1201
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 2: four receptions, two hundred and ninety three yards.

1202
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 3: So more of a Cooper Thimble.

1203
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think now them we talked to acknowledge

1204
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 2: him about the Cowboys trades they made at the top.

1205
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 2: At the top of the show, I think an underrated

1206
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:22,280
Speaker 2: trade was Rashid Shahed coming over from Breeze New Orleans Saints,

1207
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,280
Speaker 2: a guy that can take a top off of a defense,

1208
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 2: even if he's just a decoy and not making a

1209
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 2: lot of plays. The fact that you have to devote

1210
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 2: another safety defensive back some help to make sure he

1211
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 2: doesn't burn you deep. That just opens things up a

1212
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 2: lot more for someone like JSB underneath. I think his addition,

1213
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 2: even though his numbers might not be gaudy for them,

1214
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 2: I think you have to seriously talk about Seattle not

1215
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 2: only being a threat in the NFC West, but possibly

1216
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 2: being a threat to come out of the NFC completely.

1217
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 2: That's just how good they've been playing and how much

1218
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,240
Speaker 2: I think Shahied raises their offensive ceiling.

1219
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 1: Now.

1220
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 2: Granted, Sam Darnold could be the second coming of Andy

1221
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 2: Dalton great in the regular season, total dun in the playoffs,

1222
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,439
Speaker 2: I could see it. That certainly was the case last year.

1223
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:00,879
Speaker 2: So we'll see how that how that ends up playing

1224
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 2: itself out now. I say all this to say they

1225
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 2: better be on high alert this Sunday. Last week, and

1226
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 2: we probably talked about it earlier, Adam, I told you

1227
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 2: the Cardinals, despite losing five in a row, we're prime

1228
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 2: to upset the Dallas Cowboys on Monday Night. And that's

1229
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 2: exactly what happened. Despite Arizona's record, they are not a

1230
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 2: bad football team at worse their average, and average means

1231
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 2: on any given Sunday you can jump up and bite somebody.

1232
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 2: So these two teams played each other on a Thursday

1233
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 2: night in Week four, I believe it was, and Seattle

1234
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 2: needed a game winning driving a field goal at the

1235
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 2: final seconds to pull out a three point win. And

1236
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 2: that was the game that Kyler Murray played in. Didn't

1237
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,760
Speaker 2: play all that well and Look, I do believe Jacobe prissetid.

1238
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 2: He's a backup for a reason. The more and more

1239
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 2: he plays, the more falls are going to come out.

1240
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 2: In Arizona, You're gonna find out why he's a backup.

1241
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 2: He turns the ball over a lot, doesn't read the

1242
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 2: field all that well. But as a backup in short spurts,

1243
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:52,359
Speaker 2: I think he can be effective, and he has been

1244
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 2: so far. And I think the Seahawks are prime for

1245
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 2: an upset loss here at home, especially with a pivotal

1246
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 2: matchup against the Rams coming up next weekend. So they

1247
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 2: are on high upset alert in a trap game against

1248
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 2: Arizona this weekend.

1249
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 3: Well, you were right about the Cardinals last week against Dallas.

1250
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 3: I am beleeping brilliant, So yes, they should be on

1251
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 3: high alert, as should the Panthers against the Saints. We

1252
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 3: got more NFL six pack coming up later in this hour.

1253
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 3: But up next Mike Sando, who cares what we have

1254
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 3: to say. We got a real expert from the athletic

1255
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 3: coming up next to talk about the NFL trade deadline

1256
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 3: and much more. You're listening to FNA on FSR.

1257
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 4: the Nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio

1259
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 4: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen.

1260
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 2: Live FNA, COTTONNA. That's right, it's Kevin Figures Adam Austin

1261
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:48,680
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1262
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:52,200
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1263
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1266
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,480
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00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,760
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1269
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 2: it will always pop up at the top of your screen.

1270
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 2: Coming up later this hour, we will continue the NFL

1271
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 2: six pack Er. Right now, we will bring on one

1272
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 2: of the foremost experts in the NFL to talk trade

1273
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 2: deadline and a bunch of other important news around the NFL.

1274
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 2: Let's get to it, Adam Alan Dragan did thank you

1275
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 2: Donny well.

1276
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 3: With the season now past the midway point, like the

1277
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 3: midway sports football game, we now enter the super high

1278
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 3: impact football portion of the year, where with the sand

1279
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 3: taking up more space at the bottom of the hour glass.

1280
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 3: We need the expert Mike sand Do to help us

1281
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 3: understand all the NFL storylines we should be paying attention

1282
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 3: to during the most critical time of the year. It's

1283
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,919
Speaker 3: Mike Sando from the Athletic back on FNA on Fox

1284
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 3: Sports Radio.

1285
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:56,959
Speaker 2: Mike, how you been good?

1286
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 5: How are you?

1287
00:58:58,160 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 2: We're good? Thanks for doing this.

1288
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 3: Appreciated especially during this week with the trade deadline. Are

1289
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 3: there any underlining, common denominated reasons for why there was

1290
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 3: more action during this trade deadline than any other mic.

1291
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 5: I think it's just been the trend.

1292
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 8: You know, there was twenty two deals made in season

1293
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 8: this year. I think there's been you know, fifty eight

1294
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 8: or something in the last three years. I think that's it.

1295
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 8: And it's later, you know, they keep moving this thing back.

1296
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 8: It's now a week nine. It used to be week

1297
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Speaker 8: six to go back years. So I think there's a

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Speaker 8: combination of just teams late in the year, you know

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Speaker 8: where you're at. I think teams now that it's the

1300
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 8: trades have happened more. I think it just feeds itself.

1301
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 8: People feel more comfortable making them and so here we are.

1302
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Speaker 2: Mike, what do you say about the trades that the

1303
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 2: Cowboys made at the deadline, getting Quinn Williams in from

1304
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 2: the Jets, bringing in Logan Wilson, who wasn't really playing

1305
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 2: much at all at Cincinnati. Do you think the combination

1306
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 2: of those guys can actually make a big impact for

1307
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 2: them defensively mid season and help propel them into the

1308
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 2: postseason has their own I.

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Speaker 5: Don't know about that.

1310
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Speaker 8: I don't know if they're going to get to the

1311
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Speaker 8: playoffs this year, but I do think that they are

1312
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 8: adding a very good player in Quinn Williams who's going

1313
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 8: to help them for years to come.

1314
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Speaker 5: I think that, you know, once they decided they did.

1315
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 8: Not want to pay Micah Parsons what it was going

1316
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 8: to take, and I understand that to some extent, they

1317
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 8: wanted to use the money elsewhere on their roster.

1318
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 5: I do feel like, given the performance.

1319
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Speaker 8: Of the defense, that they sort of needed to throw

1320
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 8: a bone to Matty Eberfluss here, their decoordinator, and to

1321
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 8: give them something so, you know, you can certainly debate

1322
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 8: whether they gave up too much. You know, they they

1323
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 8: agreed to give the you know, to give the Jets

1324
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 8: the better of two different picks. I think that was

1325
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 8: wide They criticized, but I think what it tells you

1326
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Speaker 8: was there was competition.

1327
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Speaker 5: For Quinn Williams a lot of people. I think there's.

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Speaker 8: Multiple teams I believe involved driving that price up. So

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Speaker 8: I think it's easy to criticize Dallas a lot of times,

1330
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 8: rightfully so, but I think I'm okay with adding a

1331
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 8: player of that caliber. I think it is you know,

1332
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 8: your defensive line and your offensive line is sort of

1333
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 8: where it's at and they really need help. I think

1334
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Speaker 8: he's somebody they can build around for the next few

1335
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 8: years on that side of the ball. And so, you know,

1336
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 8: I'm not as huge as a critic as some are.

1337
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 2: What about the moves that Jets made? Obviously Quinn Williams

1338
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 2: sent out Sauce Gottner's sense of the Indianapolis Cults. Reportedly

1339
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 2: there is a deal that they try to offer to

1340
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs for Breeze Hall, and apparently they

1341
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 2: that was not consummated. The selloff for the Jets likely

1342
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 2: trying to get first round picks to try to see

1343
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 2: if they can move up for a quarterback. What did

1344
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 2: you feel about what the Jets did at the deadline.

1345
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 8: Well, I think it can work as long as they

1346
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 8: are committed to Aaron Glenn for the long term, I

1347
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 8: believe that they're going to have a hard time winning,

1348
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 8: and they were already. They'll probably have a better record

1349
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 8: without those guys the rest of this year, just because

1350
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 8: it'll even out a little bit. I think the Sauce

1351
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 8: Gardner trade was great for them. I do, I think

1352
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 8: to get what they got in return for him. I

1353
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 8: don't know that he's a huge game changer. I think

1354
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 8: it's hard to change the game anymore from that position.

1355
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 8: So I love what they're able to get for him.

1356
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 8: Quinnin Williams. They've got a nice haul for that too.

1357
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 8: I think he's actually the type of player you normally

1358
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 8: want to have on your team. I understand if they're

1359
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 8: going with Aaron Glenn and he wants to build a

1360
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 8: Detroit style defense, he may want different style or some

1361
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 8: bigger guys. That sort of a thing. Fine, as long

1362
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 8: as you're willing to stick it out with Aaron Glenn

1363
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 8: and he's the right guy for the long term. And

1364
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Speaker 8: I think that now becomes the issue for Whatdy Johnson,

1365
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 8: who hasn't been a stable owner.

1366
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 5: You know, are they going to give Aaron.

1367
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 8: Glenn time to remake us with the draft choices because

1368
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 8: he's going to need it.

1369
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 3: Mike, you mentioned sauce Gardner there, and maybe some slippage

1370
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 3: in his game or just not living up to the

1371
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,959
Speaker 3: hype of his rookie season and the nickname and everything else.

1372
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Speaker 3: And you mentioned in your piece for the Athletic this

1373
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 3: isn't Jalen Ramsey going to the Rams in twenty nineteen.

1374
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 3: It's not that significant of a move for the Colts.

1375
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 3: I've seen Pro Football Focus have him ranked as the

1376
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 3: top twenty five corners still, but not the elite of

1377
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 3: the elite. Is that kind of how you feel then?

1378
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 5: Yeah? I feel like this.

1379
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 8: When you go into a game and you're playing a team,

1380
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 8: Let's say you're playing a team that has sauce Gardener,

1381
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 8: how much of the other teams you know, how much

1382
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 8: is the offensive opponent of Saucegardner worried about sauce Gardener

1383
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 8: because I can say when you play Micah Parsons or

1384
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 8: you know you're you're definitely changing your game plan on offense.

1385
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 8: I don't know that that happens as much with cornerbacks anymore.

1386
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 8: When you think of the way the game has changed,

1387
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 8: if you go back let's just say you go like.

1388
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 5: Twenty years in the NFL.

1389
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 8: The base offense in the NFL then was two running

1390
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 8: backs and a tight end who could block some and

1391
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 8: two wide receivers. So if we have an elite corner,

1392
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 8: he might take away half of the legitimate threats in

1393
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 8: the pass routes. Right, that's a big deal. So now

1394
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 8: you play football today, the base offense is three wide

1395
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 8: receivers and hopefully you're running backs a pretty good catcher,

1396
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 8: and your tight end almost always is a good catcher.

1397
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 5: He's not Mark. I shouldn't say Mark Favar.

1398
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 8: He was a great catcher, but he's not two hundred

1399
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 8: and seventy five pounds, right, Yeah, the way the tight

1400
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 8: ends used to be. So now we've got three wide

1401
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 8: receivers that are better catchers than probably they used to

1402
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 8: be because it's all become a seven on seven league.

1403
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 8: Growing up in the sport tight ends who are better catchers,

1404
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 8: and backs who can catch. So that one corner, what's

1405
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 8: he shutting down? That's my problem.

1406
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 2: That's a good point. Yeah, it makes sense to me.

1407
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 2: One more as far as a major news on the

1408
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 2: trade market, at least I believe it was major. Seattle

1409
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 2: trading for Rashichi Heat. I mean, I know for the NBA,

1410
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 2: a big metric, you know, it talks about usage rate,

1411
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 2: and the usage rate of whatever that static equivalent is

1412
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 2: for the NFL for JSN is extremely high. Their second

1413
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 2: leading receiver has like thirty fewer receptions or something like

1414
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 2: that in Seattle. So one, are you surprised by how

1415
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:57,919
Speaker 2: hot of a start Seattle's gotten now to to start

1416
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 2: the season. And two, how big of a trade do

1417
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 2: you think that the trade for Rashidza Heat is for

1418
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 2: them and their offense.

1419
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 8: I have been surprised that the offense has been as

1420
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 8: good as it has been. In the passing game, I

1421
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 8: thought it could be good, but I just think that

1422
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 8: Sam Darnold was playing at a even higher level than

1423
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 8: last year, and so I didn't necessarily think that was

1424
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 8: the most likely scenario.

1425
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 5: I thought he might be good. I thought he could be.

1426
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 8: Better or as good as Gino Smith. But I mean,

1427
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 8: he's just been lights out. So I've been and I've

1428
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 8: been a little surprised that the pass game just overall

1429
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 8: has been that that good, especially like the first game.

1430
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 8: It really wasn't but it's been really, really good. So

1431
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 8: the Rashid Shaheed's addition, I think gives them a nice

1432
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 8: piece with some speed that will come in handy. I

1433
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 8: don't know that he's going to be, you know, getting

1434
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 8: a lot of numbers for them. I mean, I think

1435
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 8: there could be a decoy component to him too. I

1436
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 8: think you'll see him on some gadgety plays or reversus.

1437
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 8: He also can factor in the return game some So

1438
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 8: I think it was just an opportunity to add somebody

1439
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 8: with speed and also at receiver. You know, they've had

1440
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 8: a few injuries Cooper Cups.

1441
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 5: Hurt, you know. I think Bobo that one of the

1442
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 5: other receivers has heard.

1443
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 8: So I think they just were feeling a little nervous

1444
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 8: about the overall numbers, wanted a speed, more of a speed.

1445
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 5: Component, and they got it. But I don't know that's

1446
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 5: a huge game changer.

1447
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 3: Mike Sando from The Athletic is our guest here on

1448
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 3: FNA on FSR. What about the defending champs loading up

1449
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 3: a little bit? They were the busiest, I guess you

1450
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 3: could say, and Phillips is a nice piece to add.

1451
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 3: How much better did they get with the Eagles.

1452
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 8: I think that's quietly a really nice move. You know,

1453
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 8: the reason it didn't cost as much is because Joe

1454
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 8: and Phillips isn't in their contract for years to come.

1455
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 8: But so what, That's what the Eagles do. They bring

1456
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 8: in a player and they're thinking about right now, don't

1457
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 8: worry about it later if they want to resign them,

1458
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 8: or they'll maybe get a comp pick if he finishes strong,

1459
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 8: and you know, it gets a big deal. I think

1460
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 8: it's a great change for Jalen Phillips. We saw how

1461
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 8: happy he was with it. And here's one of the

1462
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 8: main reasons why I wrote about this in my pc

1463
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 8: O today is he's going from a team that's rarely

1464
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 8: leading in the game to a team that leads a lot.

1465
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 8: And when you lead, you can rush the passer. So

1466
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 8: you know his sack production he has twenty six sacks,

1467
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 8: seventeen of them or when the Dolphins are leading and

1468
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 8: the remainder or when they're not well, they're not leading

1469
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 8: very much. So I think going into a situation where

1470
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 8: you might be able to just turn your ears back

1471
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 8: a little bit could help him and allow the Eagles

1472
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 8: to maximize this. Also, Vic Fangio is their de coordinator.

1473
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 8: Vic Fangio spent a year in Miami, so they already

1474
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 8: have insight into Jalen Phillips as the person.

1475
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 5: I think that usually helps too.

1476
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 2: Mike Sandal of the Athletic joining us here on F

1477
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 2: and A's takeover of Fox Sports Radio Fox Football Saturday.

1478
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 2: Let's go back to Thursday Night. I know the question

1479
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 2: is do we have to considering how bad that was

1480
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 2: between the Broncos and the Raiders, but mostly about bo Nicks,

1481
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 2: who's been mostly I would say, probably considering the expectation

1482
01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 2: from a lot of people, down more than up. Play

1483
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 2: phenomenal against Dallas and then had a big step back

1484
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 2: against the Raiders on Thursday Night. On you do your

1485
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 2: quarterback tiers list before every single season, and he was

1486
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 2: a Tier three guy just from what you've seen and

1487
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 2: people you've talked to. I guess, what do you believe

1488
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 2: has been the issue with consistency with bow Nix here

1489
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 2: in your two or is it simply just a sophomore slump?

1490
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,600
Speaker 8: Some of it could be sophomore slump. Now people have

1491
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 8: some tape on you. I think that's part of it.

1492
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:24,599
Speaker 8: The second year can be difficult for some of these guys.

1493
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 8: It's not for Drake May. He's actually doing better. So

1494
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 8: it's not a hard rule across the board, but I

1495
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 8: think we've seen it with you know, Jaden Daniels to

1496
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:34,640
Speaker 8: some extent. When you come in and do well, you

1497
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 8: know people are going to be a little bit more

1498
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 8: attuned to playing you.

1499
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 5: It's part of it. I think.

1500
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 8: He also, you know, when you have a guy who's

1501
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 8: good with his legs, you know there's a balance there.

1502
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 8: You lose consistency when you're when you're relying on that

1503
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 8: a lot. And so this is what's a little bit

1504
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 8: different for Sean Payton with bow Nicks compared to having

1505
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 8: Drew Brees. It's just the fact that Nicks plays outs

1506
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 8: schedule at fair amount and you know, are your feet

1507
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:02,480
Speaker 8: right or your mechanics good? Think his accuracy has been inconsistent,

1508
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 8: So you know, I don't know that they're questioning whether

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01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 8: he's going to be the guy, but I do think

1510
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 8: a seven game wind streak that's totally improbable is masking

1511
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 8: a lot of questions. It's muting a lot of questions

1512
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:18,720
Speaker 8: that would be asked being asked a lot louder otherwise.

1513
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 3: And sticking with quarterback questions here, Mike, is this the

1514
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 3: end of Kyler Murray? And Arizona is the riding on

1515
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 3: the wall and what type of value would he have

1516
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:28,719
Speaker 3: around the league who might be monitoring the situation.

1517
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 8: I think he'd definitely be valuable, but definitely be out

1518
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 8: in Arizona.

1519
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 5: I would sure think.

1520
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 8: I don't know what you're going to get for Kyler Murray.

1521
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 5: You know Gino Smith got a third round pick? Would

1522
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 5: you rather Geo Smith?

1523
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 8: This year obviously has not been good, but before this year,

1524
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 8: I mean, I don't know. I might just as soon

1525
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 8: have Geo Smith if I would want to have Kyler Murray.

1526
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 8: Is anyone buying the upside of Kyler Murray? So to me, like,

1527
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:55,719
Speaker 8: would you give a first round pick for Kyler Murray?

1528
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 8: I don't think I would, No, not, So that will

1529
01:09:58,240 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 8: be interesting to see what they could get for him.

1530
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know someone who I think and you correct

1531
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:04,599
Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong, Mike, you study these guys and watch.

1532
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 2: But as far as the inconsistency and just not knowing

1533
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 2: what you're getting on a weekend, week out basis, I

1534
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 2: kind of feel like Trevor Lawrence is kind of be

1535
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 2: in that same category to a certain degree. With Kyler Murray,

1536
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 2: you just don't know what you're going to get new

1537
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 2: coaching staff, new regime in there. Do you think if

1538
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:19,599
Speaker 2: the season continues to go the way that it's going

1539
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 2: where he's been okay but nothing special, and it's certainly

1540
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:24,760
Speaker 2: the price tag in his contract warrants him playing better

1541
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:26,760
Speaker 2: than he's played, do you think that the least could

1542
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:28,559
Speaker 2: be short for him and he might not be there

1543
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 2: next year?

1544
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 8: That is possible, you know, I know, I know this

1545
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 8: as a staff. They will be frustrated by his inconsistency

1546
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 8: of accuracy.

1547
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 5: That's been a problem for him the whole way.

1548
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 8: He's less accurate than people realize, and I think they're

1549
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 8: starting to realize it. So then the question becomes, Okay,

1550
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 8: what are your other options? How easy is it to

1551
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:52,600
Speaker 8: get out of a contract? Those are difficult things to

1552
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:55,760
Speaker 8: do when you've you know, what were the what was

1553
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 8: the agreement when Liam Cohn took a job. Did they say, hey,

1554
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:01,639
Speaker 8: Trevor Orren's going to be quarterback for the next three years,

1555
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:04,680
Speaker 8: make it work and he said final sign here. You know,

1556
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 8: those types of things all come into play in terms

1557
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 8: of how much flexibility a staff has. So I do

1558
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 8: think they will want better than what they're getting from him.

1559
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 8: And I don't know that they're going to be able

1560
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 8: to get it.

1561
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:19,880
Speaker 3: Mike, I believe you wrote about this recently, but could

1562
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:23,759
Speaker 3: you lay out your hierarchy of teams in the AFC currently,

1563
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 3: because it's pretty interesting when you have a team like

1564
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:28,560
Speaker 3: the Ravens whose record is bad but a lot of

1565
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 3: people still feel like they're going to end up winning

1566
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 3: the division. They're going to be in play at some

1567
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 3: point here, Just how do you see it in the

1568
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 3: AFC playoff picture?

1569
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 8: Well, all the percentage that will tell you the Cults

1570
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 8: are going to be the top seed and all of that,

1571
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 8: and that that may happen.

1572
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 5: They have a good head start.

1573
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:47,680
Speaker 8: I think they're a good team, but I still pro

1574
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 8: I mean, I definitely put Buffalo in Kansas City kind

1575
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 8: of in their own bucket, and I think Baltimore joins them.

1576
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:55,639
Speaker 8: If Lamar Jackson's healthy and they have a reasonable amount

1577
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 8: of health on their team. We still need to see

1578
01:11:57,840 --> 01:11:59,640
Speaker 8: their defense over the second half of the year, and

1579
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 8: for Baltimore, we need to see that. But I think

1580
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 8: they've been super efficient when Lamar Jackson has played. I

1581
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 8: think that will be the case, and I still put

1582
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 8: those teams, you know, one of those teams would probably

1583
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 8: be my favorite to reach the Super Bowl. I do

1584
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 8: think that Indy has shown us something and I think

1585
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:17,680
Speaker 8: they can sense it.

1586
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:19,680
Speaker 5: Too, that Hey, those three teams at the.

1587
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:23,759
Speaker 8: Top are more vulnerable than they've been, and so why

1588
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 8: not make a push. You know we're good, why not

1589
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 8: make a trade, see if we can get over the top.

1590
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 8: And this may be the best chance to do that

1591
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 8: for one of those teams. It probably is Indy right now.

1592
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 8: I don't think the health of the Chargers is good enough.

1593
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 8: I don't think the quarterback.

1594
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 5: Play of bo Nix is good enough.

1595
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 8: Maybe they can win a playoff game, but I don't

1596
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 8: really see them making a long run without him playing better.

1597
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 8: So that's kind of where I'm at, you know, going

1598
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 8: into the second half of the year.

1599
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:49,560
Speaker 2: Well that's what we're talking the AFC. How do you

1600
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 2: feel about Baltimore getting back to back, Victor's Lamar Jackson's

1601
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 2: back healthy, getting some of their defensive guys back. I

1602
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 2: know they're three to five, Pittsburgh's not necessarily running away

1603
01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:58,759
Speaker 2: with the division, though they had a good win against

1604
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 2: Indy last week. I think Baltimore still has a pulse

1605
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 2: when it comes to the AFC, playoff race.

1606
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 8: I do one in five to three and five. They

1607
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 8: play Minnesota this week. You know, should have a decent

1608
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 8: chance to win that game. So if they get to

1609
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 8: four and five, five and five, yeah, I think they

1610
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:14,639
Speaker 8: do have a chance.

1611
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 2: Mike.

1612
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:20,600
Speaker 3: Lastly, for me, just the Commanders and Daniels and that injury,

1613
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 3: how much does that set them back in him back

1614
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:25,639
Speaker 3: on kind of the life cycle of a franchise when

1615
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:26,599
Speaker 3: you see something like that.

1616
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 8: Well, actually, it may make it easier for them to

1617
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 8: do what I think they need to do, which is

1618
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:33,600
Speaker 8: reset the roster a little bit. You know, they have

1619
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 8: loaded up on a lot of veteran players because number one,

1620
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 8: they wanted to change the culture there, so they brought

1621
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 8: in guys that were established and they thought could help

1622
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 8: them change aways from sort of the Daniel Slander era.

1623
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 8: And I get that, but they're super old, and so

1624
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 8: I think that, you know, was maybe more appealing to

1625
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 8: them when Jadeen Daniels was healthy. But now you're going

1626
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 8: to probably have some losses down the stretch, not have

1627
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 8: a good record. Does that then make you say, hey, look,

1628
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 8: let's you know, let's get some youth into this roster.

1629
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 8: And they've traded away draft picks. There's a little bit

1630
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 8: of a issue there, so we'll see how they proceed,

1631
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 8: but I would think that's what they need to do.

1632
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 8: Get some young, you know, talent to go with Jaden

1633
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 8: Daniels as opposed to patching with old guys, and then.

1634
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 2: We'll let's you run on this one, Mike, talk about

1635
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 2: Green Bay, because yes, they're five to one, one of

1636
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 2: the better records in the NFC, but I think a

1637
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:26,720
Speaker 2: lot of people, especially after the Parsons trade, felt they

1638
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:28,760
Speaker 2: would take that next step, and it seems as if

1639
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 2: even with their record, there's a lot of meat left

1640
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 2: on the bone. There. Just your outlook on Green Bay

1641
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 2: and or do you still think that they're one of

1642
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 2: the favorites in the NFC, despite the fact that they've

1643
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 2: had some uneven performances so far this season.

1644
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think they have a chance, but I don't

1645
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 8: I don't see the consistency yet. And I think losing

1646
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 8: Tucker Craft's a big deal. I think he was one

1647
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 8: of the you know, the people that gave them some

1648
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 8: toughness and obviously great production.

1649
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:52,919
Speaker 5: So I'm concerned.

1650
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 8: You know, they still have a good record, they can

1651
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 8: still win in the playoffs, but I just haven't seen

1652
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 8: the can assistancy.

1653
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:02,640
Speaker 5: They're always one of the youngest rosters, and it just

1654
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 5: feels to me.

1655
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 8: Like they're a little bit up and down even within

1656
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:08,760
Speaker 8: a game they they are, I don't know.

1657
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 5: I haven't kind of wonder like what is their bread

1658
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 5: and butter, Like what are they great at?

1659
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 8: And I think Tucker Kraft was one thing they were

1660
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 8: great at.

1661
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 5: Uh, and so I'm not sure what it is.

1662
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:20,920
Speaker 3: Now they're going to have to be great against the

1663
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 3: Eagles on Monday nine. Now I'm concerned if Mike Sando's

1664
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 3: concerned about the Packers, who I have winning the Super

1665
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:28,919
Speaker 3: Bowls and now I'm concerned he's the expert.

1666
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 8: Hey, they'll probably beat the Eagles by two touchdowns.

1667
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 2: This is the NFL.

1668
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:35,680
Speaker 3: We know how that goes Mike Sandel from the Athletic

1669
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:39,680
Speaker 3: follow him at Sando NFL on X. Mike, thank you

1670
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 3: for the inside, the intel and the analysis here on

1671
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 3: the National Football League on FNA on Fox Sports Radio.

1672
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 5: Thank you appreciate it.

1673
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 3: There goes Mike Sando, close personal friend. Okay, we're not

1674
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 3: that close, but we're getting there. What is the second

1675
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 3: time he's come on with us? Now it's all right,

1676
01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 3: we're building it.

1677
01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, third date, fourth date. All of a sudden we

1678
01:15:59,160 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 2: introduce them to the parent.

1679
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:03,599
Speaker 3: It's all good, first base whatever, Hey, it's all good.

1680
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:08,599
Speaker 3: Coming up next, speaking of back to our NFL six pack,

1681
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 3: where it's all good for some of these games that

1682
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:13,800
Speaker 3: don't look as good on paper, but when you put

1683
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 3: the beer goggles on, Kevin, they look much better. That's next.

1684
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Speaker 2: FNA on f.

1685
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Speaker 3: All right, Mark, what's next here in our NFL six pack?

1698
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:03,759
Speaker 5: Beer goggles?

1699
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 9: Kay?

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01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 2: All right? Kevin?

1701
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:08,360
Speaker 3: Sure, Josh Allen has a record of fourteen and two

1702
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 3: against the Dolphins, and the Bills are favored by nine

1703
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 3: points in Miami. Sure, okay, but uh yes, the Dolphins

1704
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:18,840
Speaker 3: lost twenty eight to six to the Ravens. When I

1705
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 3: put my beer goggles on, it's like I'm staring at

1706
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:24,719
Speaker 3: the game through a fish bowl and the Fins don't

1707
01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 3: look as bad to me.

1708
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:27,760
Speaker 2: Okay, So how much beer are you drinking? How many

1709
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:30,680
Speaker 2: IPAs did you have to throw down to actually view this?

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01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 3: We're talking Sierra Nevada torpedoes and bigfoots. Yeah, that's what

1711
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:43,680
Speaker 3: we're doing beer. But uh, I'm just I'm saying if

1712
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 3: you've played Josh Allen sixteen times, then you should know him, well,

1713
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 3: you should know him and Hailey Steinfeld at this point,

1714
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:56,000
Speaker 3: like and she was in a little Cohen Brother's remake

1715
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 3: movie called True Grit. So why can't the Dolphins show

1716
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:02,680
Speaker 3: some There are a couple weeks removed from a dominating

1717
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 3: performance against the Atlanta Falcons where Tua only had one

1718
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 3: eye working just like Jeff Bridges in True Grit and

1719
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:12,160
Speaker 3: they won thirty four to ten. Well, guess what, that

1720
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:16,120
Speaker 3: same Falcons team beat the Bills, who the Dolphins are playing,

1721
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 3: and in the Dolphins first game against the Bills this season,

1722
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 3: Buffalo only lost by ten. Now they're at home, why

1723
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 3: can't they lose by just three or four instead and

1724
01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 3: make this a fun competitive contest where Mike McDaniel gets

1725
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 3: some mumble something incoherent during his sideline interview with a

1726
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:35,639
Speaker 3: hoodie on like a true Bill Belichick disciple, although you'd

1727
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:38,559
Speaker 3: only be twice the age of Jordan Hudson and not

1728
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:42,599
Speaker 3: four times the age like Bill Belichick is. But Mike

1729
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 3: McDaniel did give a clear explanation for why the Bills

1730
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 3: have won seven straight games against the Dolphins, saying, quote,

1731
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 3: they've beaten us because they've scored more points and done

1732
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 3: the right football things longer than we have in those games.

1733
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:00,519
Speaker 2: Have some hard hitting analysis right there. I know.

1734
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 3: Can't beat that a John Madden disciple as well. Hey

1735
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:07,240
Speaker 3: come on, and for of those seven wins came by

1736
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:10,880
Speaker 3: seven points or less one score games, So my beer

1737
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 3: goggles are on tight. I could see this Dolphins Bills

1738
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 3: game being a little bit tight in this AFC East battle.

1739
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 2: What do you got here, Kevin? I'm gonna go with

1740
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 2: the Jaguars and the Texans. I know you're saying there's

1741
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 2: no redeeming quality between these two teams and watching them play,

1742
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:28,320
Speaker 2: and on the surface, you're right. And if you're asking

1743
01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 2: me which team do I trust the most out of

1744
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:35,719
Speaker 2: these two? Neither. But but you know, the Texas defense

1745
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:38,200
Speaker 2: is excellent and Trevor Lawrence basically the tall white version

1746
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 2: of Kyler Murray. We brought that up last segment with

1747
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 2: Mike Sando. But you don't know what you're gonna get

1748
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:45,680
Speaker 2: on a week two week basis. But when Jacksonville has

1749
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 2: played well and score points this year, mostly on the

1750
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:50,559
Speaker 2: back of Travis etn, I think they may be able

1751
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 2: to run the ball a little bit against this Houston defense.

1752
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 2: For Houston, you mentioned Davis Mills. I know it doesn't

1753
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 2: strike fear in anyone, but he's big, he's got an

1754
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,320
Speaker 2: excellent arm. They have all their weapons back, Christian Kirky

1755
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 2: and Nico Collins.

1756
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 3: Hey you big whitey.

1757
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, basically, so, Jacksonville's defense has been hit

1758
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 2: and miss this season, but when they have performed well,

1759
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:13,680
Speaker 2: they forced turnovers, something that Davis Mills has struggled with

1760
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 2: when he has been able to play in the NFL

1761
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:18,400
Speaker 2: in his short career. At this point in time. So

1762
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 2: I also think this is actually a pretty big game

1763
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:23,240
Speaker 2: in the AFC playoff race. So I don't think other

1764
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:24,840
Speaker 2: teams are going to end up making the playoffs. But

1765
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:26,880
Speaker 2: as of right now, I think the AFC South is

1766
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:28,880
Speaker 2: only going to get one representative, to be honest with you,

1767
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 2: But if you just look at the two records and

1768
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:32,880
Speaker 2: where the standings are in some way, shape or form,

1769
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 2: you can say this is a big game for both

1770
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:36,240
Speaker 2: teams as far as the AFC playoff race goes.

1771
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:39,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess they have to believe they still have

1772
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 3: a chance to somehow catch the Colts, which is not

1773
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 3: going to happen.

1774
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:46,040
Speaker 2: No, They're not catching the Colts. Their only hope is

1775
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 2: to potentially find a way to make it into a

1776
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:48,719
Speaker 2: wildcard spot.

1777
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:52,520
Speaker 3: It's a lost season probably for the Texans. The Jaguars

1778
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 3: felt like they were better than they really were early

1779
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 3: on when they got that Monday Night football win as

1780
01:20:57,120 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence stumbled into the end zone against Kansas City.

1781
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 2: The record is still there, the records decent.

1782
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:05,680
Speaker 3: I think they're a little fugazy, maybe because of what

1783
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:09,160
Speaker 3: happened overseas against the Rams where they got destroyed.

1784
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:10,800
Speaker 2: You're upset because you're you that messed up your pick.

1785
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:11,800
Speaker 2: That's why you're upset over.

1786
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 3: So what I can be upset? Everyone should be upset.

1787
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:19,560
Speaker 3: If you're a Jacksonville Jaguar fan. More F and A

1788
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:23,280
Speaker 3: on FSR coming up next.

1789
01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

1790
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:34,400
Speaker 2: It's right final hour of F and A on FSR,

1791
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:37,400
Speaker 2: Fox Football Saturday. Kevin figures at k fig one where

1792
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:39,160
Speaker 2: you can find me on X. You can find Adam

1793
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 2: at Follow Adam a on X Adam Ashley.

1794
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:45,160
Speaker 3: You know, man, We will have you guys prepped because

1795
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 3: college football is coming up in just hours. I don't

1796
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:49,680
Speaker 3: know what week it is because I can't do the

1797
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 3: math when you have a week zero.

1798
01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, but doesn't help help the calls at all. It's math.

1799
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:58,799
Speaker 3: We will go through the biggest games coming up today,

1800
01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 3: but first we gotta finish shop for NFL six pack.

1801
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:17,440
Speaker 3: We still have three more categories, mark, what's next?

1802
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:19,120
Speaker 9: Oh my god?

1803
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:27,040
Speaker 3: Oh I'm so sorry. All right, so it's our oh

1804
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:32,679
Speaker 3: Troy epic fail potential game. I'm going with the Falcons here.

1805
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:36,360
Speaker 3: It's not even so much Kevin that they're going to

1806
01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:38,920
Speaker 3: Indianapolis to face the Colts, who are coming off a

1807
01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 3: rare loss where they had five turnovers against the Steelers,

1808
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 3: when Daniel Jones only had four on the year. He

1809
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:49,679
Speaker 3: has five in that game. I do expect Indiana Jones

1810
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:51,479
Speaker 3: to whip the ball around the field and lead them

1811
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 3: to a blowout victory over the Valleys.

1812
01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:55,320
Speaker 2: Yes, I will say, going to Indianapolis by a way

1813
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:57,959
Speaker 2: of Berlin, Germany. This is one of your early morning kickoffs.

1814
01:22:58,240 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's also an epic failed by the league because

1815
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:02,040
Speaker 3: this game.

1816
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:04,840
Speaker 2: Not a fan of a Schnitzel.

1817
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:07,639
Speaker 3: The Colts are too good to be on this early

1818
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 3: in America right now. Daniel Jones deserves to be seen

1819
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:14,880
Speaker 3: by everyone with the season that he's having here. But

1820
01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 3: the Falcons, you know, they lost three in a row.

1821
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:20,599
Speaker 2: Yep.

1822
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 3: Now they have to deal with Sauce Gardner, who the

1823
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 3: Colts picked up gave away two first round picks.

1824
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 2: Which is big as Drake London, even in the midst

1825
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:30,480
Speaker 2: of their struggles has been phenomenal.

1826
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:35,240
Speaker 3: But I told everyone back in week one I would

1827
01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:40,479
Speaker 3: be monitoring the kicking situation with Atlanta after they kicked

1828
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:45,719
Speaker 3: young way Ku to the curb for Parker Romo one

1829
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 3: week in Well, Unfortunately, the stench of young Hosts failures,

1830
01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 3: Young Wake has lingered and Parker Romo kicked about as

1831
01:23:57,320 --> 01:24:01,040
Speaker 3: well as Parker Posey has aged. So like the actress,

1832
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:03,800
Speaker 3: the Falcons have more work to be done. So they

1833
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 3: are having another facelift, you could say, on their special

1834
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 3: teams by dumping Parker Romo after he missed a game

1835
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 3: tying extra point against the Patriots last week, a team

1836
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 3: that also cut him in training camp. And now the

1837
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 3: Falcons have gotten zany with it. They're bringing in Zane Gonzales.

1838
01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 3: Zan last kicked for the Commanders last season. He did

1839
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:28,639
Speaker 3: go nineteen for nineteen on extra points for them. My prediction,

1840
01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:34,320
Speaker 3: Zane Gonzalez will miss an extra point this Sunday and

1841
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 3: a few kicks for the Falcons before the season is over,

1842
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 3: and they will rue the day they let Young Ho

1843
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:45,919
Speaker 3: Young Way cou Go, who might be kicking this weekend

1844
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 3: now for the Giants, right Graham, Yeah, Graham Gano is

1845
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 3: out and Young Wayku is kicking. So the Falcons are

1846
01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 3: going through kickers like Pete Carroll goes through the pack

1847
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:01,840
Speaker 3: of gum. They're chewing them up and spitting them out,

1848
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 3: and this is not going to end well for them.

1849
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 2: I mean They always say kickers are like relievers, right.

1850
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:10,360
Speaker 2: It can be a phenomenal pro bowler one year, then

1851
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:12,680
Speaker 2: the next year you completely fall off the map. So

1852
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:15,920
Speaker 2: this happens a lot with kickers. But the unfortunate part

1853
01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:17,559
Speaker 2: is it's such an important part of the game, and

1854
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:19,360
Speaker 2: I know they get blasted and made fun of by

1855
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:22,479
Speaker 2: a lot of players. It's very it's a thankless position.

1856
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:25,760
Speaker 2: Everybody loves you when you make kicks, and everybody criticizes you,

1857
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:28,960
Speaker 2: and you know when you don't. You know, So one job, Yeah,

1858
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:30,840
Speaker 2: that's the the one job. That's a job I would

1859
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:32,599
Speaker 2: not want if I were if I were an athlete,

1860
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 2: I would not sign up to be an NFL kicker.

1861
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 2: To be honest with you, high pressure were I am

1862
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 2: so glad you played that drop because I'm thinking of

1863
01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 2: the Chargers at home against the Steelers and that SoundBite.

1864
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 2: You know that so as far as my old Troy

1865
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 2: epic fail and so that sound bite that you used,

1866
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 2: Adam a Charger fan who was upset. This is when

1867
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:57,800
Speaker 2: the Chargers were good with Philip Rivers and that whole team,

1868
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:00,680
Speaker 2: and they lost to a terrible Raider team, which I mean,

1869
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:02,840
Speaker 2: take your pick over the last thirty years, or find

1870
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:08,680
Speaker 2: a terrible Raider team. Oh yeah, we could just as

1871
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:11,840
Speaker 2: easily use that guy who was upset about the Charges

1872
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:13,640
Speaker 2: losing game to the Raiders as we do when we

1873
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 2: use the Minnesota Vikings guy breaking his cane over the

1874
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:20,200
Speaker 2: misfield goal the playoffs. It is purely anecdotal on my part.

1875
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:22,719
Speaker 2: I don't have the numbers you might. I think we'd

1876
01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:24,439
Speaker 2: be hard pressed to find a team that is more

1877
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:27,320
Speaker 2: that has been a snake bit by injuries more than

1878
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:31,080
Speaker 2: the Charges over the past two decades or something like that.

1879
01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:32,400
Speaker 2: To be honest with you, if.

1880
01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 3: We don't need to research that, we all know it

1881
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:35,080
Speaker 3: to be true.

1882
01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:38,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean so, And the hits keep coming. Now

1883
01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:40,479
Speaker 2: Joe Alt finally gets back into the lineup a couple

1884
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:42,639
Speaker 2: of weeks ago. Now all of a sudden, he's out

1885
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 2: for the entire season with that same injured ankle that

1886
01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:47,720
Speaker 2: he now needs to have surgery on. And for any

1887
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:49,519
Speaker 2: of those fans who want to downplay the importance of

1888
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 2: a stud offensive tackle, yeah, ask Patrick Mahomes a few

1889
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:54,640
Speaker 2: years ago against Sampa Bay in the Super Bowl, or

1890
01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:58,120
Speaker 2: asked him last year in the Super Bowl against the Philadelphia.

1891
01:26:57,400 --> 01:26:58,479
Speaker 3: You gotta go back that far.

1892
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:01,639
Speaker 2: How important that is for the best player on the planet,

1893
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:03,760
Speaker 2: arguably to be running for his life and be a

1894
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 2: shell of himself. That's just how important it is. If

1895
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:09,080
Speaker 2: you look at LA this season with and without Joe

1896
01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:11,720
Speaker 2: Alt in the lineup four and oh this year when

1897
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:14,840
Speaker 2: all plays the entire game two to three when he doesn't,

1898
01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 2: justin Herbert's QBR eighty when he plays, it goes all

1899
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 2: the way down to fifty six when Joe Alt is

1900
01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:24,680
Speaker 2: not in the game. That is how significant of a

1901
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 2: loss it is not having Joe Alt up front. Now,

1902
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:29,639
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you welcome in a Steelers team

1903
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:32,680
Speaker 2: that swiped all of George Kittle's smelling salts last week

1904
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:35,479
Speaker 2: and finally woke up against the Colts. They sacked Daniel

1905
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:39,080
Speaker 2: Jones five times, they forced six turnovers, and he finally

1906
01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 2: started looking like the defense we were all expecting to

1907
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:45,080
Speaker 2: see this season. Now, I will say, offensively, they still

1908
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:47,360
Speaker 2: look like a hot mess two hundred and twenty five

1909
01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:50,000
Speaker 2: yards of offense, which obviously is not going to be

1910
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:52,559
Speaker 2: a recipe for long term success. But I do think

1911
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:56,200
Speaker 2: considering the charters, offensive line issues and renewed confidence by

1912
01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:59,400
Speaker 2: that Steeler defense, the Steelers have more than a fighters

1913
01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:02,240
Speaker 2: chance here on Sunday night in LA. Not to mention

1914
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:05,479
Speaker 2: that I know this game is in Los Angeles, but

1915
01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:07,160
Speaker 2: there are Steeler fans from coast to coast.

1916
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:10,000
Speaker 3: Oh the terrible towels travel.

1917
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:12,559
Speaker 2: Yes, I went to a game at SOFI. I think

1918
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 2: I told you this last weekend. I went to the

1919
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:15,720
Speaker 2: game at SOFI a couple of years ago where the

1920
01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:19,599
Speaker 2: Chargers were hosting of the Steelers and looked like heins Field.

1921
01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:21,360
Speaker 2: You would have thought I was at Three River Stadium

1922
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:23,000
Speaker 2: back in the day or something like that. If you

1923
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:24,680
Speaker 2: didn't know any better, you would have thought they were

1924
01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:28,200
Speaker 2: selling the terrible towels at the stands concession stands in

1925
01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:28,640
Speaker 2: so Far.

1926
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 3: It was so bad, all right, So Pittsburgh's gonna have

1927
01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:36,439
Speaker 3: home field advantage in LA over the Chargers in their

1928
01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 3: defense maybe back yeah.

1929
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 2: Banged up Charger offensive line, resurgeon Steeler defense, and basically

1930
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 2: a home field advantage in Los Angeles for the Pittsburgh

1931
01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 2: Steelers all lines up for a potential avalanche from the

1932
01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:50,519
Speaker 2: Steelers onto the Chargers on Sunday night football. I can

1933
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:51,719
Speaker 2: absolutely see that happening.

1934
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 3: I'm with you, Mark, What's next here?

1935
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:56,400
Speaker 5: Under the microscope.

1936
01:28:57,120 --> 01:29:00,920
Speaker 3: You know, you mentioned him earlier, and I guess we're

1937
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:04,479
Speaker 3: just gonna wash up the Seattle Seahawks here because they're

1938
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:07,599
Speaker 3: under the microscope for me too, Kevin, because I don't

1939
01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:10,800
Speaker 3: think people have fully accepted that they can be a

1940
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 3: Super Bowl contender, that they could win the Super Bowl.

1941
01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:17,680
Speaker 3: It's hard to take any team that wears that much

1942
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:20,519
Speaker 3: Neon Green. Seriously. Oh come on, But last week they

1943
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:24,120
Speaker 3: were wearing the Steve Largent throwbacks against the Commanders and

1944
01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:29,760
Speaker 3: they handled their business. Sam Donald was sixteen of sixteen

1945
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 3: to start that Monday night football game, finished with more

1946
01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:37,479
Speaker 3: touchdowns than incompletions, four to three. The further Sam Donald

1947
01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:40,240
Speaker 3: gets away from the Jets, the better he gets. It's

1948
01:29:40,280 --> 01:29:44,240
Speaker 3: like that Jets shade of Green is everyone's kryptonite, and

1949
01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:47,639
Speaker 3: he's becoming stronger and more powerful with every new team

1950
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:50,880
Speaker 3: he joins. That makes him one step removed or one

1951
01:29:50,920 --> 01:29:54,519
Speaker 3: step further removed from being with the Jets. It didn't

1952
01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:56,599
Speaker 3: end well in the playoff game last year with the Vikings.

1953
01:29:56,640 --> 01:29:58,920
Speaker 3: I understand that against the Rams, but the Vikings were

1954
01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:01,639
Speaker 3: still fourteen and three last season with him. Now he's

1955
01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:03,840
Speaker 3: six and two with Seattle, and he now has a

1956
01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:06,200
Speaker 3: career win percentage above five hundred for the first time.

1957
01:30:06,240 --> 01:30:07,479
Speaker 2: He's forty one and forty.

1958
01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 3: Here you go, what would that be if he wasn't

1959
01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:12,599
Speaker 3: drafted by the Jets and then made that stop in Carolina. Well,

1960
01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:15,439
Speaker 3: he's now twenty and five. The last year and a half,

1961
01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:20,320
Speaker 3: he has by far the best EPA adjusted EPA two

1962
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:24,240
Speaker 3: expected points added in the league. He has the best

1963
01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:26,759
Speaker 3: rating when it comes to yards left on the field

1964
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:31,120
Speaker 3: by quarterbacks, so he rarely misses open receivers he is.

1965
01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:35,360
Speaker 3: His Pro Football Focus ranking is number one. Here's something

1966
01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:38,920
Speaker 3: more digestible. Sam Darnold is on pace to join Peyton Manning,

1967
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:42,759
Speaker 3: Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, and Patrick Mahomes as the only

1968
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:47,719
Speaker 3: quarterbacks to do the following in consecutive seasons. Win seventy

1969
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:50,519
Speaker 3: five percent of your starts and average two hundred and

1970
01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:52,360
Speaker 3: fifty yards or more per game.

1971
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:54,000
Speaker 2: Sounds like he's on his way to Hall of Fame

1972
01:30:54,040 --> 01:30:54,240
Speaker 2: to me.

1973
01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:59,759
Speaker 3: Also have a one hundred quarterback rating. Come on, they eyeable,

1974
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:04,760
Speaker 3: It's crazy. The offensive line also was the only offensive

1975
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:07,880
Speaker 3: line last week to not give up a sack, So

1976
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:10,040
Speaker 3: whether you want to credit them or Sam Darnold getting

1977
01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:13,479
Speaker 3: rid of the football. They've also got the best rush

1978
01:31:13,560 --> 01:31:17,040
Speaker 3: defense in the league. They get pressure without blitzing. The

1979
01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:20,719
Speaker 3: Seahawks are blitzing at the second lowest rate in the NFL,

1980
01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:24,360
Speaker 3: while at the same time are generating the second highest

1981
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:28,720
Speaker 3: pressure rate in the league. They don't gotta blitz. They

1982
01:31:28,720 --> 01:31:32,320
Speaker 3: can get there with four four. Now they have an

1983
01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:36,200
Speaker 3: NFC West battle against the Cardinals, and Jacoby Brissett has

1984
01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:40,000
Speaker 3: been playing well. But maybe, like how I try to

1985
01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:42,639
Speaker 3: tell everyone back in week two about Kyler Murray, who

1986
01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:44,760
Speaker 3: I put on the hot seat, then he's not long

1987
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:45,360
Speaker 3: for the job.

1988
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:45,960
Speaker 2: He's not.

1989
01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:50,559
Speaker 3: But it's a weird week. The Cardinals could be tough.

1990
01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:54,120
Speaker 3: It is an NFC West battle, but I just want

1991
01:31:54,160 --> 01:31:58,080
Speaker 3: to highlight how good the Seahawks have been. And by

1992
01:31:58,120 --> 01:32:01,160
Speaker 3: the way, with what happened with Kyler Murray was crazy.

1993
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:05,800
Speaker 3: Jonathan Gannon, the head coach of the Arizona Cardinals, in

1994
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:09,320
Speaker 3: twenty four hours, went from saying Murray was still the

1995
01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:14,160
Speaker 3: starter to announcing Brissett would start again. Sunday then mentioned

1996
01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:17,480
Speaker 3: how he likes what the offenses doing with Brissett, indicated

1997
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:21,240
Speaker 3: Brissette was starting just due to health issues with Kyler Murray.

1998
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:25,280
Speaker 3: Didn't completely rule out Murray from being active, and then

1999
01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:27,880
Speaker 3: went on a local radio show and said Brissett would

2000
01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:29,960
Speaker 3: start even if Murray was healthy.

2001
01:32:30,320 --> 01:32:33,040
Speaker 2: And then they put Kyler Murray on injury reserve to

2002
01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:35,200
Speaker 2: try to take the take it out of his hands. So,

2003
01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:37,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know how many times you can

2004
01:32:37,160 --> 01:32:39,599
Speaker 2: waffle in a forty eight hour period.

2005
01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 3: It's wild he's done. But the Seattle Seahawks are far

2006
01:32:44,439 --> 01:32:45,000
Speaker 3: from done.

2007
01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 2: They look incredible, like we both like, and like I

2008
01:32:48,320 --> 01:32:51,320
Speaker 2: mentioned last hour, I think they are a legit Super

2009
01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:53,160
Speaker 2: Bowl contender to come out of the NFC. With the

2010
01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:54,280
Speaker 2: way that they've been bawling out.

2011
01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:58,280
Speaker 3: I was washing what they were bawling out there a

2012
01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:01,400
Speaker 3: little bit there, but they deserve it. They've been good.

2013
01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:04,479
Speaker 2: Now. I am going to place the Patriots and Drake

2014
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:07,040
Speaker 2: May under the microscope this weekend as they get ready

2015
01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:09,240
Speaker 2: to play against Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I do not want

2016
01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:12,240
Speaker 2: to take anything away from Drake may great sophomore season.

2017
01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:14,000
Speaker 2: Like Mike Sandel told us a little bit earlier in

2018
01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:16,599
Speaker 2: the show, in fact, Drake May playing so well Adam,

2019
01:33:16,920 --> 01:33:19,200
Speaker 2: he actually has a third best odds right now to

2020
01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:23,000
Speaker 2: win League MVP from Bedam GM behind Josh Allen and

2021
01:33:23,040 --> 01:33:25,880
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes, which I do find a bit interesting. Have

2022
01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:28,360
Speaker 2: you seen Matthew Stafford's numbers of comparison, by the way,

2023
01:33:28,479 --> 01:33:33,520
Speaker 2: to dust to Dustin May, to Drake May, he's underrated. Yeah,

2024
01:33:33,560 --> 01:33:36,000
Speaker 2: I'll give you the cliff notes explainer. So May does

2025
01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:38,880
Speaker 2: have more passing yards and a completion percentage that is

2026
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:41,479
Speaker 2: seven points higher than Matthew Stafford. So that's pretty good.

2027
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:44,679
Speaker 2: Stafford has been sacked far fewer times, and by the way,

2028
01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:46,360
Speaker 2: like you mentioned a minute ago, a lot of times

2029
01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:49,160
Speaker 2: sacks were on the quarterback, not necessarily always the offensive line.

2030
01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:53,000
Speaker 2: He has more touchdown passes and fewer interceptions. Yes, I

2031
01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:54,920
Speaker 2: know we're all excited about the hot, pretty young thing

2032
01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:57,120
Speaker 2: in New England, but let's not forget about the smoking

2033
01:33:57,160 --> 01:33:59,519
Speaker 2: hot cougar in the suburbs of LA who's on the

2034
01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:01,439
Speaker 2: prow for another Super Bowl rank. Can we not forget

2035
01:34:01,479 --> 01:34:03,920
Speaker 2: about Matthew Stafford? Please give me some sugar. By and

2036
01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:06,360
Speaker 2: by the way, the majority of us took the under

2037
01:34:06,479 --> 01:34:08,719
Speaker 2: on how many starts Stafford would even make this year.

2038
01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:10,840
Speaker 2: The back issue in training camp. Would he even be

2039
01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:13,799
Speaker 2: ready for opening Day? How many games would he actually play?

2040
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:15,920
Speaker 2: Jimmy g is gonna be in there and start more

2041
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:18,040
Speaker 2: games than Matthew staff There's been none of that talk

2042
01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:18,439
Speaker 2: this year.

2043
01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:19,559
Speaker 3: Speaking of pretty things.

2044
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:26,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, now, so I digress. And by the way, I'll

2045
01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:28,200
Speaker 2: also say too, I can acknowledge that Matthew Stafford is

2046
01:34:28,200 --> 01:34:30,280
Speaker 2: throwing to a future Hall of Famer in DeVante Adams,

2047
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:33,120
Speaker 2: and depending on where his career art goes, Puka Nakua

2048
01:34:33,120 --> 01:34:35,000
Speaker 2: could be on his way. They're at at some point too,

2049
01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:37,680
Speaker 2: is on track, Drake Mays throwing a Kashawn bhute, and

2050
01:34:37,760 --> 01:34:40,400
Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs, who's on the back nine at least when

2051
01:34:40,439 --> 01:34:42,120
Speaker 2: it comes to his playing career off the field, is

2052
01:34:42,240 --> 01:34:45,760
Speaker 2: very prolific. Anyway, with all that said, I'm placing that

2053
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:48,800
Speaker 2: on the hot seat, or I should say, under the microscope.

2054
01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:52,280
Speaker 2: This Patriots offense in Tampa Bay on the road, one

2055
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:54,640
Speaker 2: of the best defensive units, one of the best defensive

2056
01:34:54,720 --> 01:34:57,920
Speaker 2: minds in the entire NFL, and Todd Bowles. I want

2057
01:34:57,920 --> 01:35:00,200
Speaker 2: to see how many performs in this situation. And he

2058
01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:01,680
Speaker 2: doesn't even have to win the game, ad and I'm

2059
01:35:01,720 --> 01:35:03,639
Speaker 2: not putting that much pressure on him. I just want

2060
01:35:03,640 --> 01:35:06,960
Speaker 2: to see how he performs road, tough environment, really good team.

2061
01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:08,960
Speaker 2: By the way, Boute is not going to be playing,

2062
01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:10,439
Speaker 2: so that's going to be a tough blow. He's not

2063
01:35:10,479 --> 01:35:12,960
Speaker 2: going to have his top receiver. But this is the NFL.

2064
01:35:14,680 --> 01:35:18,360
Speaker 2: This happens every now and then, so I don't necessarily

2065
01:35:18,439 --> 01:35:20,439
Speaker 2: expect the Patrons to go on to Tampa Bay and win.

2066
01:35:20,840 --> 01:35:22,400
Speaker 2: But now you know, if you're going to be one

2067
01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:24,519
Speaker 2: of the upper echelon quarterbacks in the NFL, if you

2068
01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:27,400
Speaker 2: are going to be the third favorite that the third

2069
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:29,920
Speaker 2: line as far as favorite for the MVP, let's see

2070
01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:30,519
Speaker 2: what you can do.

2071
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:33,400
Speaker 3: Apparently in the MVP of he.

2072
01:35:33,320 --> 01:35:35,920
Speaker 2: Did according to the numbers that I saw a little

2073
01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:38,320
Speaker 2: bit earlier on Friday. So let's see if he can

2074
01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:40,360
Speaker 2: actually measure up to that. Drake may to see if

2075
01:35:40,360 --> 01:35:42,439
Speaker 2: you can play well with your your best receiver being

2076
01:35:42,479 --> 01:35:44,280
Speaker 2: out on the road against one of the best defenses

2077
01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:47,400
Speaker 2: of the NFL. I'm up placing them under the microscope.

2078
01:35:47,479 --> 01:35:51,360
Speaker 3: That's a good game. That's a good call. Mark our

2079
01:35:51,439 --> 01:35:57,720
Speaker 3: final NFL six pack category redemption round. The Detroit Lions

2080
01:35:58,120 --> 01:36:01,800
Speaker 3: looked more like my housecats to shadow last week, all

2081
01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:05,800
Speaker 3: hiss but scared as they just really want to kiss.

2082
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:08,960
Speaker 3: Come here, Tuka, Come here. Let me give you a kissy.

2083
01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:11,320
Speaker 3: Let me give you a kissy. I love those cats. Hey,

2084
01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:15,080
Speaker 3: they don't sound like that. Well, the Lions can kiss

2085
01:36:15,160 --> 01:36:18,080
Speaker 3: their perfect home record goodbye. After losing twenty seven to

2086
01:36:18,200 --> 01:36:21,720
Speaker 3: twenty four at Ford Field to JJ McCarthy and the Vikings,

2087
01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:24,840
Speaker 3: where they let a red shirt rookie who hadn't played

2088
01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:27,679
Speaker 3: in almost two months throw for two touchdowns and run

2089
01:36:27,720 --> 01:36:30,960
Speaker 3: for another on them, I'd be concerned that their three

2090
01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:34,720
Speaker 3: losses are to Green Bay, Kansas City, and Minnesota. You

2091
01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:38,280
Speaker 3: can make the argument they haven't beaten some very good teams.

2092
01:36:38,320 --> 01:36:41,160
Speaker 3: They've they've beaten up on the bad teams. But lucky

2093
01:36:41,160 --> 01:36:43,080
Speaker 3: for them, they do have another one coming up on

2094
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:48,479
Speaker 3: their schedule. And while that could lead to them redeeming

2095
01:36:48,560 --> 01:36:50,960
Speaker 3: themselves that they go to DC to face a team

2096
01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:55,000
Speaker 3: who's head coach should be de qued after dan Quinn,

2097
01:36:55,439 --> 01:36:57,759
Speaker 3: whose hair on his head must correlate with his IQ,

2098
01:36:57,920 --> 01:37:01,080
Speaker 3: because for some reason he had their franchise quarterback and

2099
01:37:01,200 --> 01:37:03,840
Speaker 3: jayde and Daniels out there late in a game he

2100
01:37:03,920 --> 01:37:06,400
Speaker 3: had no business continuing continuing to play in.

2101
01:37:07,400 --> 01:37:10,599
Speaker 2: Should I give dan Quinn credit for calling himself out

2102
01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:12,720
Speaker 2: the day after and saying yeah, you know what, I

2103
01:37:12,760 --> 01:37:15,040
Speaker 2: probably shouldn't have done that, or shouldn't I feel like

2104
01:37:15,080 --> 01:37:16,840
Speaker 2: most most coaches don't do that.

2105
01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:19,160
Speaker 3: He should have done it that night. You'll wait a

2106
01:37:19,280 --> 01:37:22,880
Speaker 3: day so I can't give him any credit. Maybe he

2107
01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:26,000
Speaker 3: thought since a team came back on him down twenty

2108
01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:29,639
Speaker 3: eight to three, that he could also pull off the improbable.

2109
01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:31,960
Speaker 2: Ye Now he may need.

2110
01:37:32,600 --> 01:37:34,559
Speaker 3: To do that this week because the Lions are going

2111
01:37:34,600 --> 01:37:38,200
Speaker 3: to be angry and he has Marcus Mariota under center,

2112
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:41,800
Speaker 3: who throws like he has his arm dislocated from his brain.

2113
01:37:42,280 --> 01:37:46,559
Speaker 3: Like Marcus Mariota. I love the guy, great, great Oregon

2114
01:37:46,640 --> 01:37:50,680
Speaker 3: Duck Heisman winner, but UH not going to get it

2115
01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:54,080
Speaker 3: done for them. The Lions will redeem themselves with a

2116
01:37:54,120 --> 01:37:57,840
Speaker 3: big victory over the Commanders. That's my redemption round. Who

2117
01:37:58,240 --> 01:37:59,280
Speaker 3: who do you got, Kevin Well?

2118
01:37:59,320 --> 01:38:00,800
Speaker 2: I will say, by the where. The Lions do have

2119
01:38:00,840 --> 01:38:02,760
Speaker 2: a tough schedule coming up down the stretch, so they

2120
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:05,160
Speaker 2: will have more than enough opportunities to prove themselves. You

2121
01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:07,680
Speaker 2: got the Eagles coming up, the Packers. If you want

2122
01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:09,879
Speaker 2: to put the Cowboys in there. You can ram Steelers

2123
01:38:10,040 --> 01:38:12,280
Speaker 2: like this again, so they will have a chance to

2124
01:38:12,800 --> 01:38:16,360
Speaker 2: prove their wares. I am going to the redemption round

2125
01:38:16,479 --> 01:38:18,479
Speaker 2: and I'm going to take the Packers at home against

2126
01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:22,120
Speaker 2: the Eagles Monday night. We've talked about all season long

2127
01:38:22,160 --> 01:38:24,400
Speaker 2: with green Baby brought up with Mike Sando, Who are

2128
01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:26,560
Speaker 2: the real Green Bay Packers? I think Mike some of

2129
01:38:26,560 --> 01:38:29,240
Speaker 2: the up Well, they don't really have an identity. Are

2130
01:38:29,240 --> 01:38:31,000
Speaker 2: they physical? Do they want to run the ball with

2131
01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:34,160
Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs and pound you to death? Doesn't seem like it.

2132
01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:36,240
Speaker 2: Do they want to air the ball out every week

2133
01:38:36,280 --> 01:38:38,439
Speaker 2: and have him and have Jordan Love throw for three

2134
01:38:38,479 --> 01:38:40,400
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty yards and four touchdowns like he did

2135
01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:43,160
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago. Doesn't like that? Like that's

2136
01:38:43,200 --> 01:38:45,240
Speaker 2: the case either. Now they do have a five to two,

2137
01:38:45,240 --> 01:38:46,880
Speaker 2: one to one record, so it's not as if they've

2138
01:38:46,880 --> 01:38:49,680
Speaker 2: bottomed out or are a total disappointment or anything. But

2139
01:38:49,720 --> 01:38:51,880
Speaker 2: people like yourself, Adam, and pitch them to go to

2140
01:38:51,920 --> 01:38:54,560
Speaker 2: the super Bowl. Even before the parts has traded, a

2141
01:38:54,600 --> 01:38:56,760
Speaker 2: lot of people thought that this team was poised to

2142
01:38:56,840 --> 01:38:58,599
Speaker 2: take the next step forward, And one thing I guess

2143
01:38:58,640 --> 01:39:01,679
Speaker 2: I really didn't consider was just how young this roster

2144
01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:04,720
Speaker 2: actually is if you don't count the kicker Brandon McManus,

2145
01:39:04,760 --> 01:39:07,280
Speaker 2: which you usually don't know, disrespected kickers, but they're off

2146
01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:09,040
Speaker 2: on the corner doing the wrong thing half the time.

2147
01:39:09,640 --> 01:39:12,439
Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs and Elston Jenkins, two of their best players

2148
01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:15,160
Speaker 2: on offense, are also the most experienced and season players,

2149
01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:18,400
Speaker 2: and they've been in the league for six seven years six'. Seven,

2150
01:39:18,560 --> 01:39:21,519
Speaker 2: anyway that doesn't mean, everything but it does mean at

2151
01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:23,479
Speaker 2: least a little bit something where you don't have that

2152
01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:26,400
Speaker 2: much experience on your. Roster the silver lining they still

2153
01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:29,240
Speaker 2: figuring things out while winning, games AND i think they

2154
01:39:29,280 --> 01:39:31,760
Speaker 2: have a great chance to win this Coming monday night

2155
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:34,320
Speaker 2: despite not Having Tucker craft in the. Mix because let's

2156
01:39:34,360 --> 01:39:36,679
Speaker 2: not act like The eagles have been world beaters themselves

2157
01:39:36,680 --> 01:39:39,799
Speaker 2: this year. Now if, anything these two teams are actually

2158
01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:43,680
Speaker 2: pretty similar good, records finding ways to win, games but

2159
01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:47,240
Speaker 2: have been wildly inconsistent all season. Long Saquon barkley did

2160
01:39:47,240 --> 01:39:48,920
Speaker 2: get off fo one hundred and fifty rushing yards a

2161
01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:51,559
Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago before their bye when they beat The,

2162
01:39:51,640 --> 01:39:54,160
Speaker 2: giants but The packers do have one of the better

2163
01:39:54,520 --> 01:39:57,240
Speaker 2: run defenses in the entire. League so, yes The eagles

2164
01:39:57,240 --> 01:39:59,120
Speaker 2: are coming off of a, bye but The packers are

2165
01:39:59,160 --> 01:40:01,840
Speaker 2: coming off of ana rasing loss To Adams. Panthers no

2166
01:40:01,960 --> 01:40:04,160
Speaker 2: disrespect to The Carolina. Panthers they're a solid.

2167
01:40:04,160 --> 01:40:04,800
Speaker 3: Team, oh none.

2168
01:40:04,880 --> 01:40:07,320
Speaker 2: Taken but you can't lose a game like that at.

2169
01:40:07,360 --> 01:40:10,479
Speaker 3: Home i'd be embarrassed. Too come, On SO.

2170
01:40:10,439 --> 01:40:12,160
Speaker 2: I expect The packers to come out with a big

2171
01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:14,760
Speaker 2: effort On Monday night, football even Without Tucker, craft AND

2172
01:40:14,760 --> 01:40:16,600
Speaker 2: i think they get back on track and have a

2173
01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:19,440
Speaker 2: great opportunity to be able to beat The. Eagles all, right.

2174
01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:22,679
Speaker 3: There you have, it THE nfl six pack For week.

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01:40:22,840 --> 01:40:25,840
Speaker 3: TEN i believe of THE nfl. Season if you're stop

2176
01:40:25,920 --> 01:40:29,960
Speaker 3: mistaken coming, up whatever week it is in college football,

2177
01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:32,840
Speaker 3: again they have a week. Zero you can't figure these things,

2178
01:40:32,840 --> 01:40:36,360
Speaker 3: out binary numbers and. Stuff what's going? On we will

2179
01:40:36,439 --> 01:40:40,800
Speaker 3: preview the game's coming up mere hours from. Now you're

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01:40:40,880 --> 01:40:42,120
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Speaker 2: LIVE f AND. A Cotton Kevin Figures Adam Austin back

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Speaker 2: full show posted right after we get off of the, air.

2194
01:41:28,840 --> 01:41:30,840
Speaker 3: Which means you can go back to the first hour

2195
01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:34,559
Speaker 3: where we talked about the college football rankings coming out this,

2196
01:41:34,720 --> 01:41:38,600
Speaker 3: week And kevin went off was on.

2197
01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:45,479
Speaker 2: Tilt i'm. Pissed ps, man you had.

2198
01:41:45,600 --> 01:41:46,639
Speaker 3: Enough i'm mad as.

2199
01:41:46,680 --> 01:41:47,720
Speaker 2: Hell i'm gonna take it.

2200
01:41:47,720 --> 01:41:50,840
Speaker 3: Anymore right, now let's talk about the games that are

2201
01:41:50,840 --> 01:41:53,800
Speaker 3: coming up in just mere hours from. Now where do

2202
01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:54,599
Speaker 3: you want to start.

2203
01:41:54,360 --> 01:41:56,920
Speaker 1: Here Kevin College football forecast?

2204
01:41:57,000 --> 01:42:01,880
Speaker 2: With and, well there's a really big one in The big,

2205
01:42:01,960 --> 01:42:06,000
Speaker 2: twelve you, know THE byu And Texas tech number seven

2206
01:42:06,120 --> 01:42:09,439
Speaker 2: versus number. Eight and interestingly here was interesting to note,

2207
01:42:09,439 --> 01:42:11,719
Speaker 2: here As Vince scully would say back in the, day

2208
01:42:12,080 --> 01:42:14,960
Speaker 2: you Realize Texas tech now that it's interesting this line has.

2209
01:42:15,000 --> 01:42:18,439
Speaker 2: Moved so they opened as ten point. Favorites it got

2210
01:42:18,439 --> 01:42:21,559
Speaker 2: as high as eleven and a half On. Thursday as

2211
01:42:21,600 --> 01:42:23,479
Speaker 2: of right this, Second i'm looking at. It it's at

2212
01:42:23,479 --> 01:42:25,880
Speaker 2: ten and a half too much.

2213
01:42:25,960 --> 01:42:26,960
Speaker 5: Marijuana there you?

2214
01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:30,240
Speaker 2: Go is that the lines like? That it certainly seems

2215
01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:32,800
Speaker 2: like it. NOW i talked about a couple of inflated

2216
01:42:32,840 --> 01:42:35,080
Speaker 2: lines last week and it came back and burned. Me

2217
01:42:35,400 --> 01:42:38,000
Speaker 2: so and those lines didn't end up holding. Up So

2218
01:42:38,200 --> 01:42:39,960
Speaker 2: Texas tech has a ten and a half point. Favorite,

2219
01:42:39,960 --> 01:42:42,439
Speaker 2: look they're at, home great home field advantage for a

2220
01:42:42,479 --> 01:42:45,439
Speaker 2: team that is pretty. Complete they're really good running the,

2221
01:42:45,439 --> 01:42:48,040
Speaker 2: ball Which Texas tech notoriously Under Mike leach was not

2222
01:42:48,120 --> 01:42:51,439
Speaker 2: able to. Do they're phenomenal, defensively which notoriously Under Mike

2223
01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:54,519
Speaker 2: leach they were not able to. Do great defensive, line

2224
01:42:54,720 --> 01:42:58,320
Speaker 2: solid offensive, line really good offensive. Unit against THE byu

2225
01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:01,400
Speaker 2: team that's still unbeaten, Over Texas tech has a. Loss

2226
01:43:01,439 --> 01:43:03,760
Speaker 2: they're five and one in The big TWELVE byu eight

2227
01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:06,240
Speaker 2: to no, overall in five to zero in the. Conference

2228
01:43:06,439 --> 01:43:09,200
Speaker 2: they have this rookie or freshman QUARTERBACK i should Say

2229
01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:12,160
Speaker 2: Bear bachmeyer that makes play after play after play every single.

2230
01:43:12,160 --> 01:43:15,759
Speaker 2: Week best name in, sports Bear, Bachmeyer, yeah Bear. Bachmeyer

2231
01:43:15,800 --> 01:43:18,920
Speaker 2: and they have their running BACK. L. J, martin who's

2232
01:43:18,920 --> 01:43:20,720
Speaker 2: been out the last couple of games or last week

2233
01:43:20,760 --> 01:43:22,320
Speaker 2: with they with an injury is going to be back

2234
01:43:22,840 --> 01:43:25,080
Speaker 2: one of the best running backs in the entire. COUNTRY

2235
01:43:25,240 --> 01:43:26,920
Speaker 2: i remember watching the game a couple of weeks, ago

2236
01:43:26,960 --> 01:43:29,800
Speaker 2: and they played Against Iowa state in ames L. J

2237
01:43:29,920 --> 01:43:33,160
Speaker 2: martin got hurt and Bear, bachmeyer a true, freshman basically

2238
01:43:33,160 --> 01:43:35,400
Speaker 2: had to put the team on his back and throw

2239
01:43:35,439 --> 01:43:37,800
Speaker 2: them to a. Victory and they Ran Iowa state off

2240
01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:39,880
Speaker 2: of the field in that second. Half so it's not

2241
01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:42,200
Speaker 2: as if he doesn't have the. ABILITY i think what

2242
01:43:42,240 --> 01:43:44,519
Speaker 2: people are probably hedging against that at a certain point

2243
01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:46,680
Speaker 2: Here adam is that he is a true. Freshman it's

2244
01:43:46,720 --> 01:43:48,760
Speaker 2: going to show up at some. Point maybe it's a

2245
01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:51,559
Speaker 2: tough road game here Against Texas tech or a game

2246
01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:54,280
Speaker 2: Against cincinnati in a couple of. Weeks i'll be honest with.

2247
01:43:54,320 --> 01:43:56,200
Speaker 2: YOU i don't see. It, OH i really. DON'T i

2248
01:43:56,200 --> 01:43:58,280
Speaker 2: THINK byu is on a mission this. Year they got

2249
01:43:58,320 --> 01:43:59,680
Speaker 2: up to a nine to zero start last year and

2250
01:43:59,680 --> 01:44:01,640
Speaker 2: lost two with their last three and missed out in

2251
01:44:01,680 --> 01:44:04,040
Speaker 2: the playoff berth in The Big twelve championship. GAME i

2252
01:44:04,040 --> 01:44:05,600
Speaker 2: think they actually seal the deal here and get a

2253
01:44:05,640 --> 01:44:07,240
Speaker 2: big victory Against Texas tech and love.

2254
01:44:07,240 --> 01:44:09,360
Speaker 3: It, Yeah but if they're all on a, mission this

2255
01:44:09,439 --> 01:44:11,519
Speaker 3: game is not going to be played for a couple more. Years,

2256
01:44:11,520 --> 01:44:12,960
Speaker 3: well they got to, return.

2257
01:44:12,760 --> 01:44:15,200
Speaker 2: And other guys are all. Back they're Going they're all

2258
01:44:15,240 --> 01:44:16,760
Speaker 2: thirty seven at this. Point that's what it.

2259
01:44:16,880 --> 01:44:19,400
Speaker 3: Is this is interesting to me because they're right next

2260
01:44:19,400 --> 01:44:22,000
Speaker 3: to each other in The College football rankings number SEVEN,

2261
01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:23,599
Speaker 3: byu number Eight Texas.

2262
01:44:23,640 --> 01:44:25,920
Speaker 2: Tech and don't think the committee didn't know this when

2263
01:44:25,920 --> 01:44:27,760
Speaker 2: they when they set the, rankings they knew that these

2264
01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:29,280
Speaker 2: two teams were playing each other that this.

2265
01:44:29,360 --> 01:44:32,479
Speaker 3: Week they know what they're, doing and conceivably they can

2266
01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:35,880
Speaker 3: play each other again in The Big Twelve championship. Game

2267
01:44:36,439 --> 01:44:43,120
Speaker 3: so unless one team beats the other team, twice they

2268
01:44:43,200 --> 01:44:46,080
Speaker 3: could conceivably both get in to.

2269
01:44:46,120 --> 01:44:46,879
Speaker 2: The College football.

2270
01:44:46,920 --> 01:44:50,559
Speaker 3: Playoff that would be pretty unexpected from The Big.

2271
01:44:50,560 --> 01:44:52,720
Speaker 2: Twelve, YEAH i would say. So, yeah the way it

2272
01:44:52,760 --> 01:44:55,120
Speaker 2: stacks up right, NOW i mean with THE byu And

2273
01:44:55,160 --> 01:44:57,040
Speaker 2: Texas tech being where they, are there is a there's

2274
01:44:57,120 --> 01:44:59,320
Speaker 2: a great opportunity for The big twelve to potentially get

2275
01:44:59,360 --> 01:45:00,000
Speaker 2: both of these teams.

2276
01:45:00,120 --> 01:45:00,240
Speaker 6: In.

2277
01:45:00,320 --> 01:45:02,839
Speaker 3: Now Like kevin, Say Texas tech beats them this weekend

2278
01:45:03,439 --> 01:45:05,800
Speaker 3: and THEN byu beats them in The big Twelve championship,

2279
01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:07,080
Speaker 3: game they're both getting.

2280
01:45:07,080 --> 01:45:10,080
Speaker 2: IN i think that's how the way things are shaken

2281
01:45:10,120 --> 01:45:12,000
Speaker 2: out right. Now, yeah that that they would have. To

2282
01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:14,840
Speaker 2: they would absolutely have to at this. Point so, well

2283
01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:17,640
Speaker 2: you know WHERE i will not blink On. Cincinnati by the,

2284
01:45:17,680 --> 01:45:19,800
Speaker 2: Way cincinnati is a team that coul could play both

2285
01:45:19,800 --> 01:45:21,439
Speaker 2: of these teams and they can end up biting each of.

2286
01:45:21,479 --> 01:45:24,000
Speaker 2: Them they're still alive in The Big twelve race.

2287
01:45:24,040 --> 01:45:26,799
Speaker 3: Too utah lost to both of them and they're still.

2288
01:45:26,800 --> 01:45:30,360
Speaker 2: Thirteenth so that's AND i think that's another big factor,

2289
01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:32,360
Speaker 2: too that people have faith Like utah could be in

2290
01:45:32,360 --> 01:45:34,160
Speaker 2: one of those situations where they don't even make it

2291
01:45:34,200 --> 01:45:36,680
Speaker 2: into The Big twelve championship game and depending on how

2292
01:45:36,680 --> 01:45:39,080
Speaker 2: the season, ends they can potentially find their way.

2293
01:45:39,120 --> 01:45:42,759
Speaker 3: In, yeah like they could cut down the middle. Between

2294
01:45:43,760 --> 01:45:46,240
Speaker 3: this is. CRAZY i did not expect this from The Big. Twelve,

2295
01:45:46,320 --> 01:45:49,479
Speaker 3: HONESTLY i didn't expect the committee to value The Big

2296
01:45:49,520 --> 01:45:52,120
Speaker 3: twelve as much as they. Do forget the EIGHT. Acc

2297
01:45:52,320 --> 01:45:52,880
Speaker 3: they like The Big.

2298
01:45:52,960 --> 01:45:55,200
Speaker 2: Twelve, yeah they like The Big twelve much more than

2299
01:45:55,320 --> 01:45:57,439
Speaker 2: like THE, acc which surprises me a little. Bit BUT

2300
01:45:57,479 --> 01:45:59,559
Speaker 2: i do LIKE i THINK byu And Texas tech a

2301
01:45:59,600 --> 01:46:02,640
Speaker 2: cut up everybody else in THE. Acc they're in a

2302
01:46:02,720 --> 01:46:04,680
Speaker 2: tier of their own At, cincinnati kind of bringing up

2303
01:46:04,680 --> 01:46:06,160
Speaker 2: the rear when it comes to that. Too i'll tell

2304
01:46:06,200 --> 01:46:07,120
Speaker 2: you who's a cut above.

2305
01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:12,800
Speaker 3: Everyone, okay maybe not, everyone But indiana is going To

2306
01:46:12,800 --> 01:46:15,800
Speaker 3: Penn state and they're gonna bring that machine with them

2307
01:46:15,840 --> 01:46:18,400
Speaker 3: and put a whooping on. Them they're like the Wood

2308
01:46:18,439 --> 01:46:23,839
Speaker 3: chipper In fargo and teams Are Steve bishemi, like they

2309
01:46:24,080 --> 01:46:26,760
Speaker 3: just grind you. Down they do it on both ends

2310
01:46:26,800 --> 01:46:30,200
Speaker 3: of the. Ball Kurt signetti's a. Monster they're so. COMPLETE

2311
01:46:30,920 --> 01:46:33,040
Speaker 3: i think they don't have a major. Injury they're gonna

2312
01:46:33,040 --> 01:46:33,439
Speaker 3: win the whole.

2313
01:46:33,439 --> 01:46:35,599
Speaker 2: Thing they don't Stop, adam that's the. Thing they don't

2314
01:46:35,640 --> 01:46:37,479
Speaker 2: take the foot off their. Gas this is Like Steve

2315
01:46:37,560 --> 01:46:40,000
Speaker 2: spurry or in the, nineties like For. Florida, well they

2316
01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:42,160
Speaker 2: just it is their intent to go out and drop

2317
01:46:42,200 --> 01:46:43,840
Speaker 2: seventy on you if and whenever they.

2318
01:46:43,840 --> 01:46:44,920
Speaker 3: Can With danny war for.

2319
01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:48,600
Speaker 2: Yeah and by the, way another thing gets the, committee

2320
01:46:48,640 --> 01:46:51,200
Speaker 2: like talking about the top three in Wild House state

2321
01:46:51,320 --> 01:46:54,000
Speaker 2: was ahead Of, indiana and they came up with Some kakammi,

2322
01:46:54,120 --> 01:46:56,320
Speaker 2: like oh, well other offensive line is better Than. Indiana

2323
01:46:56,400 --> 01:46:59,439
Speaker 2: indiana's blowing people off the. Ball they're running people off

2324
01:46:59,439 --> 01:47:01,320
Speaker 2: of the. Field we know. What Ohio state has not

2325
01:47:01,400 --> 01:47:04,679
Speaker 2: been good, Either BUT i, mean come, on like If

2326
01:47:04,720 --> 01:47:09,040
Speaker 2: indiana had the same stats and the same production but

2327
01:47:09,160 --> 01:47:11,559
Speaker 2: they Had michigan on the side of their helmet OR

2328
01:47:11,640 --> 01:47:15,320
Speaker 2: usc they're number one Over Ohio. State i'm thoroughly convinced to. That,

2329
01:47:15,640 --> 01:47:17,920
Speaker 2: YEAH i think it's brand bias all over. Again he

2330
01:47:18,040 --> 01:47:19,519
Speaker 2: said a lot in this, Show BUT i think that's

2331
01:47:19,560 --> 01:47:19,800
Speaker 2: what it.

2332
01:47:19,840 --> 01:47:23,880
Speaker 3: Is they're defending Champs Ohio. State they're giving them the,

2333
01:47:23,920 --> 01:47:26,800
Speaker 3: nod probably just because of, That BUT i, AGREE i

2334
01:47:26,800 --> 01:47:29,960
Speaker 3: Think indiana looks. Better they look better than anyone and.

2335
01:47:30,080 --> 01:47:32,800
Speaker 3: Everyone that win on the road Against oregon's the best

2336
01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:33,960
Speaker 3: victory anyone's got this.

2337
01:47:34,040 --> 01:47:36,799
Speaker 2: SEASON i. Think Now i'm glad you brought Up oregon

2338
01:47:36,840 --> 01:47:38,760
Speaker 2: because this is interesting to. Me so they go on the,

2339
01:47:38,800 --> 01:47:41,120
Speaker 2: Road they're taking On. Iowa oregon checks in at number

2340
01:47:41,200 --> 01:47:45,120
Speaker 2: nine In iowa's twentieth in the FIRST cfp. Rankings i'll

2341
01:47:45,160 --> 01:47:48,160
Speaker 2: be honest with, You. Adam you look At. Oregon what's

2342
01:47:48,200 --> 01:47:51,640
Speaker 2: their best win over time on the road against a

2343
01:47:51,720 --> 01:47:56,280
Speaker 2: below Average Penn state. Team, no they really. Haven't they

2344
01:47:56,320 --> 01:47:57,920
Speaker 2: haven't beaten Anybody November.

2345
01:47:58,360 --> 01:48:01,439
Speaker 3: November they're gonna start getting some good. Wins they better

2346
01:48:01,479 --> 01:48:02,080
Speaker 3: better start this.

2347
01:48:02,120 --> 01:48:06,280
Speaker 2: Weekend they better because this weekend Against iowa on the, road,

2348
01:48:06,320 --> 01:48:10,280
Speaker 2: which by the, Way indiana's hardest game was At. Iowa

2349
01:48:10,360 --> 01:48:12,679
Speaker 2: they won by. Five it was a seven point. Spread

2350
01:48:12,720 --> 01:48:15,200
Speaker 2: they allowed a safety at the, end so it narrowed

2351
01:48:15,200 --> 01:48:17,040
Speaker 2: the score a little, bit but that was by far

2352
01:48:17,120 --> 01:48:20,120
Speaker 2: the closest matchup they Had. Iowa, granted they're not lighting

2353
01:48:20,160 --> 01:48:21,800
Speaker 2: the world on. Fire they're not the greatest show on

2354
01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:24,040
Speaker 2: turf or, anything but their offense actually has a pulse

2355
01:48:24,479 --> 01:48:25,920
Speaker 2: so that they have not had for the last eight

2356
01:48:25,960 --> 01:48:26,720
Speaker 2: years or whatever it's.

2357
01:48:26,720 --> 01:48:28,679
Speaker 3: Been they can't throw the ball, still though no.

2358
01:48:29,040 --> 01:48:30,800
Speaker 2: Exactly we know that they can run the, ball That

2359
01:48:30,880 --> 01:48:32,639
Speaker 2: oregon's one of the best teams that's stopping the. Run

2360
01:48:32,640 --> 01:48:35,839
Speaker 2: but just knowing the situation on the, road the stakes

2361
01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:38,760
Speaker 2: in this, GAME i think it's a huge swing game

2362
01:48:38,800 --> 01:48:40,960
Speaker 2: for both, teams to be honest with, you because all

2363
01:48:41,000 --> 01:48:42,840
Speaker 2: of a, sudden If iowa finds a way to Beat

2364
01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:46,080
Speaker 2: oregon and then they beat usc next, week they're a

2365
01:48:46,120 --> 01:48:50,240
Speaker 2: team that can potentially find themselves into the college football

2366
01:48:50,240 --> 01:48:52,720
Speaker 2: playoffs without having to play in The Big ten championship.

2367
01:48:52,760 --> 01:48:54,360
Speaker 2: Game depending on how these things play.

2368
01:48:54,360 --> 01:48:58,720
Speaker 3: Out If Iowa michigan or usc any of those teams

2369
01:48:59,080 --> 01:49:02,000
Speaker 3: won out in The Big. Ten somehow they would get.

2370
01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:04,400
Speaker 2: IN i think they're getting. In, yeah, absolutely you.

2371
01:49:04,479 --> 01:49:08,080
Speaker 3: Think, okay but what about this? Weekend like my, ducks

2372
01:49:08,120 --> 01:49:10,000
Speaker 3: come on, now.

2373
01:49:10,880 --> 01:49:13,400
Speaker 2: They're gonna cover then have To i'm GLAD i don't

2374
01:49:13,439 --> 01:49:15,720
Speaker 2: have to put this ON towo onll too off and

2375
01:49:15,800 --> 01:49:17,880
Speaker 2: make an official. Call this is a tough game because

2376
01:49:17,920 --> 01:49:19,760
Speaker 2: it actually is a hard. ONE i Know oregon is

2377
01:49:19,760 --> 01:49:20,880
Speaker 2: favored by a. TOUCHDOWN i.

2378
01:49:20,920 --> 01:49:23,720
Speaker 3: Believe, YEAH i got a minus six and a. HALF

2379
01:49:23,800 --> 01:49:26,040
Speaker 3: i mean that's What i'm looking. AT i don't have.

2380
01:49:26,160 --> 01:49:31,320
Speaker 2: ANYTHING i would NEVER i will hesitantly Take oregon to.

2381
01:49:31,320 --> 01:49:38,000
Speaker 3: Win just BECAUSE i was offense Or. Oregon their defense is.

2382
01:49:38,040 --> 01:49:39,920
Speaker 2: Great, yeah the weather could be a.

2383
01:49:39,960 --> 01:49:42,120
Speaker 3: Factor storm from X men could be out.

2384
01:49:42,160 --> 01:49:44,880
Speaker 2: There, YEAH i haven't seen any inclement. Weather it's supposed

2385
01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:46,320
Speaker 2: to be, cold it's supposed to be in the, forties

2386
01:49:46,360 --> 01:49:48,320
Speaker 2: BUT i haven't seen like rain or snow or anything

2387
01:49:48,360 --> 01:49:48,639
Speaker 2: like that.

2388
01:49:48,680 --> 01:49:50,960
Speaker 3: With snow or tornadoes from storm's.

2389
01:49:51,000 --> 01:49:53,160
Speaker 2: Hands, yeah and it's not as If oregon is not

2390
01:49:53,280 --> 01:49:55,600
Speaker 2: used to playing in inclement, Weather So i'm not necessarily

2391
01:49:55,640 --> 01:50:00,080
Speaker 2: that concerned about. That, Yeah so that is one of

2392
01:50:00,120 --> 01:50:02,280
Speaker 2: those games to kind of keep an eye on a

2393
01:50:02,280 --> 01:50:04,320
Speaker 2: little bit. Too another ONE i keep an eye on

2394
01:50:04,360 --> 01:50:07,559
Speaker 2: two in THE acc is Wake forest on the road Against.

2395
01:50:07,600 --> 01:50:09,400
Speaker 2: Virginia we talked About virginia and not getting a lot

2396
01:50:09,400 --> 01:50:12,519
Speaker 2: of respect considering whether they're ranked at number, fourteen the

2397
01:50:12,600 --> 01:50:15,920
Speaker 2: highest ranked team in THE. ACC a big REASON a

2398
01:50:15,960 --> 01:50:18,320
Speaker 2: big reason for that is because they have really struggled.

2399
01:50:18,320 --> 01:50:20,240
Speaker 2: RECENTLY i, mean they have been winning games by the

2400
01:50:20,320 --> 01:50:23,920
Speaker 2: skin of their, teeth barely Be Washington, state barely Be

2401
01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:27,160
Speaker 2: North carolina cal the. Same they don't have the greatest.

2402
01:50:27,200 --> 01:50:29,599
Speaker 2: Resume their best winn is against A Florida state team

2403
01:50:29,600 --> 01:50:31,040
Speaker 2: that is no longer ranked at this point in.

2404
01:50:31,080 --> 01:50:32,960
Speaker 3: Time they need some style, points.

2405
01:50:32,800 --> 01:50:36,280
Speaker 2: They, do And Wake forest has been really scrappy this. Year.

2406
01:50:36,320 --> 01:50:38,200
Speaker 2: Now they got their asses handed to them By Florida

2407
01:50:38,200 --> 01:50:41,320
Speaker 2: state last. Week but at five and, Three Jake, dickert

2408
01:50:41,320 --> 01:50:43,479
Speaker 2: the former head coach Of Washington, state has that team

2409
01:50:43,520 --> 01:50:46,000
Speaker 2: playing extremely. Well it would not surprise me in the

2410
01:50:46,040 --> 01:50:48,080
Speaker 2: least bit of Wake forest found a way to Beat virginia.

2411
01:50:48,479 --> 01:50:51,080
Speaker 2: Tonight let me ask you a question, Here kevin pop

2412
01:50:51,200 --> 01:50:52,240
Speaker 2: quiz hot, shot.

2413
01:50:52,080 --> 01:50:54,640
Speaker 3: BECAUSE i see one other game that might be the

2414
01:50:54,680 --> 01:50:57,840
Speaker 3: most underwhelming matchup between these two teams in a long.

2415
01:50:57,920 --> 01:51:03,760
Speaker 3: TIME lsu At bama In. Tuscaloosa bama's favored by. Ten

2416
01:51:05,080 --> 01:51:07,880
Speaker 3: this has gotta be the least type game between them

2417
01:51:07,960 --> 01:51:10,559
Speaker 3: in a, while just because everything going on WITH.

2418
01:51:10,680 --> 01:51:13,879
Speaker 2: Lsu, yeah interim head coach AT. LSU i, mean their

2419
01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:16,759
Speaker 2: offense is you, know just, setting you, know the four pass.

2420
01:51:16,800 --> 01:51:19,400
Speaker 2: Back god knows how many. Years their defense is actually pretty.

2421
01:51:19,439 --> 01:51:22,479
Speaker 2: Solid this year they just can't score enough. Points so

2422
01:51:22,920 --> 01:51:25,240
Speaker 2: honestly that the spread is ten and a, HALF i

2423
01:51:25,280 --> 01:51:26,760
Speaker 2: would not be mad if it was higher than, that

2424
01:51:26,840 --> 01:51:29,479
Speaker 2: to be honest with. You, YEAH i Think alabama steam

2425
01:51:29,560 --> 01:51:31,479
Speaker 2: rolls him in this, game which is. Unfortunate this is

2426
01:51:31,560 --> 01:51:35,320
Speaker 2: usually one of the marquee games only calendar every single solitary,

2427
01:51:35,400 --> 01:51:37,040
Speaker 2: year and this year there's just not a lot of

2428
01:51:37,080 --> 01:51:37,400
Speaker 2: juice to.

2429
01:51:37,439 --> 01:51:39,439
Speaker 3: It this is not the game of the. Century, no

2430
01:51:39,560 --> 01:51:39,800
Speaker 3: it is.

2431
01:51:39,840 --> 01:51:42,479
Speaker 2: Not it's. NOT i won't say. Another it has less

2432
01:51:42,479 --> 01:51:45,799
Speaker 2: interest now Because Bo pabula From missouri is now. Injured

2433
01:51:45,840 --> 01:51:47,800
Speaker 2: But TEXAS a AND, m which checks in at number

2434
01:51:47,840 --> 01:51:50,880
Speaker 2: three taking On, missouri who is ranked twenty second in the.

2435
01:51:50,880 --> 01:51:53,000
Speaker 2: Country missouri does still have a really good defense and

2436
01:51:53,000 --> 01:51:55,600
Speaker 2: can run the ball pretty damn, Well But TEXAS a

2437
01:51:55,680 --> 01:51:58,160
Speaker 2: AND m one of the more complete teams in the entire.

2438
01:51:58,200 --> 01:52:00,599
Speaker 2: COUNTRY i would HAVE i still Give missouri a bit

2439
01:52:00,640 --> 01:52:03,160
Speaker 2: of a puncher's chance at, home knowing the way that

2440
01:52:03,200 --> 01:52:04,800
Speaker 2: they can play, defense and knowing the way that they

2441
01:52:04,840 --> 01:52:06,840
Speaker 2: have the ability to run the. Ball but they're down

2442
01:52:06,880 --> 01:52:09,439
Speaker 2: to their third stream. Quarterback That's it's a tall ask

2443
01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:11,600
Speaker 2: to beat a team a stacked As TEXAS a AND.

2444
01:52:11,720 --> 01:52:14,280
Speaker 2: M BUT i do think it will be an entertaining. Game,

2445
01:52:14,280 --> 01:52:16,719
Speaker 2: look the line is six and a half in favor

2446
01:52:16,840 --> 01:52:19,519
Speaker 2: of The. Aggies it would not surprise you If missouri

2447
01:52:19,600 --> 01:52:21,400
Speaker 2: keeps this game, close and MAYBE a AND m ends

2448
01:52:21,479 --> 01:52:23,479
Speaker 2: up getting a backdoor cover and late in the fourth

2449
01:52:23,560 --> 01:52:26,160
Speaker 2: Quarter missouri ten fourteen or something like.

2450
01:52:26,200 --> 01:52:30,000
Speaker 3: That missouri kept it close Against. Alabama, Absolutely missouri is

2451
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:30,519
Speaker 3: a quality.

2452
01:52:30,560 --> 01:52:34,000
Speaker 2: Team LIKE i think if was in this, game the

2453
01:52:34,040 --> 01:52:35,960
Speaker 2: line will be, short will be, smaller AND i Think

2454
01:52:35,960 --> 01:52:38,160
Speaker 2: missouri would have a legitimate chance to actually win this.

2455
01:52:38,240 --> 01:52:41,160
Speaker 3: Game maybe this Means i'm a college football, Casual but

2456
01:52:41,200 --> 01:52:44,280
Speaker 3: does it feel like at all to you That TEXAS

2457
01:52:44,360 --> 01:52:47,679
Speaker 3: a AND m is the most Underrated top five? Team

2458
01:52:47,880 --> 01:52:51,439
Speaker 3: like just, Overlooked LIKE i don't know what it is

2459
01:52:51,439 --> 01:52:54,360
Speaker 3: they don't have much. Buzz they don't have the allure

2460
01:52:54,520 --> 01:52:57,000
Speaker 3: that's some of these other, teams Even indiana because Of

2461
01:52:57,120 --> 01:53:01,640
Speaker 3: Kurt signetti and his. Personality you talk about, THEM i

2462
01:53:01,640 --> 01:53:03,360
Speaker 3: don't think they're talking About TEXAS a and M.

2463
01:53:03,439 --> 01:53:05,800
Speaker 2: Nf Marcel ree doesn't get talked enough when it comes

2464
01:53:05,840 --> 01:53:08,160
Speaker 2: To heisman. Talk, now he doesn't have the gaudiest, numbers

2465
01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:09,880
Speaker 2: so that's probably a big reason for. It but the

2466
01:53:09,920 --> 01:53:12,040
Speaker 2: head of The, snake the starting quarterback for a undefeated

2467
01:53:12,040 --> 01:53:15,439
Speaker 2: team in THE, Sec i'm with you on thousand. Percent

2468
01:53:15,640 --> 01:53:18,880
Speaker 2: they are the most under the, radar top three, team

2469
01:53:19,040 --> 01:53:21,960
Speaker 2: undefeated team this late in the season THAT i can never,

2470
01:53:22,080 --> 01:53:22,960
Speaker 2: remember to be honest with.

2471
01:53:23,000 --> 01:53:25,679
Speaker 3: You they're not getting nearly enough attention or a spotlight

2472
01:53:25,760 --> 01:53:28,800
Speaker 3: on them for how could they? Been now they got

2473
01:53:28,800 --> 01:53:30,559
Speaker 3: a chance to prove. It they still got some tough

2474
01:53:30,560 --> 01:53:31,080
Speaker 3: games coming.

2475
01:53:31,160 --> 01:53:33,080
Speaker 2: Up, yeah, well, LOOK i mean the last game of

2476
01:53:33,120 --> 01:53:34,920
Speaker 2: the season is the one for. Them it's a rivalry

2477
01:53:34,960 --> 01:53:37,439
Speaker 2: game against The university Of, texas, who by the, WAY

2478
01:53:37,600 --> 01:53:40,040
Speaker 2: i mean quiet has. Kept you, know we talk about

2479
01:53:40,160 --> 01:53:42,320
Speaker 2: Arch manning and the criticism he got coming into the

2480
01:53:42,320 --> 01:53:44,479
Speaker 2: season and how he didn't really look that great throughout the,

2481
01:53:44,560 --> 01:53:47,639
Speaker 2: year he has steadily, improved and all of a, Sudden

2482
01:53:47,760 --> 01:53:51,080
Speaker 2: texas find themselves in a situation where if they can win,

2483
01:53:51,160 --> 01:53:54,000
Speaker 2: out they're most definitely going to be in The College Football.

2484
01:53:54,000 --> 01:53:56,920
Speaker 2: Playoff because their defense is that good and they've done

2485
01:53:57,040 --> 01:53:58,639
Speaker 2: enough offensively to keep themselves.

2486
01:53:58,640 --> 01:54:02,960
Speaker 3: Afloat it's easy for thinking they could actually take one

2487
01:54:03,000 --> 01:54:06,439
Speaker 3: more loss and still get in if it's the right

2488
01:54:06,520 --> 01:54:09,240
Speaker 3: type of. Loss let me put it this, way.

2489
01:54:09,240 --> 01:54:11,040
Speaker 2: They'll buck the trend to get a three loss team

2490
01:54:11,080 --> 01:54:11,960
Speaker 2: into The College Football.

2491
01:54:11,960 --> 01:54:17,400
Speaker 3: Playoff what if they lose close To, georgia Beat, arkansas.

2492
01:54:17,320 --> 01:54:19,320
Speaker 2: Which they, should and then Beat.

2493
01:54:19,160 --> 01:54:22,120
Speaker 3: TEXAS a AND m that final game of the. SEASON

2494
01:54:22,479 --> 01:54:23,720
Speaker 3: i think that could be the.

2495
01:54:23,760 --> 01:54:27,880
Speaker 2: Formula it would depend on how everything else in the

2496
01:54:27,920 --> 01:54:30,240
Speaker 2: bracket or would shake out as far as the rankings,

2497
01:54:30,240 --> 01:54:33,720
Speaker 2: go but it absolutely gives them a. Chance they're, eleven, yeah,

2498
01:54:33,800 --> 01:54:35,880
Speaker 2: yeah so they absolutely have a chance to be able

2499
01:54:35,920 --> 01:54:37,400
Speaker 2: to make. It it just depends on how everything else

2500
01:54:37,400 --> 01:54:38,840
Speaker 2: falls in front of. Them but, YEAH i think this

2501
01:54:38,920 --> 01:54:41,360
Speaker 2: might be the first year that we have the opportunity

2502
01:54:41,440 --> 01:54:43,120
Speaker 2: or the chance of getting a three loss team to

2503
01:54:43,160 --> 01:54:45,640
Speaker 2: actually make it into the. Playoff In texas could be that.

2504
01:54:45,680 --> 01:54:49,000
Speaker 3: SQUAD i mean they lost To Ohio, state who The

2505
01:54:49,000 --> 01:54:49,960
Speaker 3: committee has number.

2506
01:54:49,960 --> 01:54:54,000
Speaker 2: One that was a low scoring, game a close game.

2507
01:54:53,840 --> 01:54:56,160
Speaker 3: To start off the. Season AND i was listening To

2508
01:54:56,240 --> 01:54:59,280
Speaker 3: Joel klatt about, this and he's. Right they want to

2509
01:54:59,320 --> 01:55:02,400
Speaker 3: reward team to schedule bravely because they want more of

2510
01:55:02,440 --> 01:55:04,960
Speaker 3: these good matchups to happen and it's good for college.

2511
01:55:04,960 --> 01:55:07,120
Speaker 3: Football so you don't want to penalize a team Like

2512
01:55:07,160 --> 01:55:09,840
Speaker 3: texas losing this game To Ohio state too.

2513
01:55:09,920 --> 01:55:12,320
Speaker 2: Much, No and that's something that The committee said that

2514
01:55:12,360 --> 01:55:14,520
Speaker 2: they were going to stake their head on coming into this.

2515
01:55:14,600 --> 01:55:16,960
Speaker 2: Season they are not going to penalized teams for losing

2516
01:55:16,960 --> 01:55:19,240
Speaker 2: to good. Teams they're going to give you credit for

2517
01:55:19,280 --> 01:55:20,800
Speaker 2: losing to a good, team and they're not going to

2518
01:55:20,840 --> 01:55:23,400
Speaker 2: give you credit for beating up on the little sisters

2519
01:55:23,400 --> 01:55:23,560
Speaker 2: of the.

2520
01:55:23,560 --> 01:55:26,480
Speaker 3: Poor so can we get another good loss To georgia

2521
01:55:27,080 --> 01:55:29,640
Speaker 3: and then Beat arkansas and Beat TEXAS a AND m.

2522
01:55:29,800 --> 01:55:30,880
Speaker 2: Go for the jugular Beat.

2523
01:55:30,920 --> 01:55:35,960
Speaker 3: Georgia your ut, whoa, whoa, whoa. WHOA i Know Irish

2524
01:55:35,960 --> 01:55:36,840
Speaker 3: manning's playing.

2525
01:55:36,880 --> 01:55:39,839
Speaker 2: Better but before we check, out here too a revenge

2526
01:55:39,880 --> 01:55:42,240
Speaker 2: game For. Navy they came in unbeaten last year late

2527
01:55:42,240 --> 01:55:44,280
Speaker 2: in the season Against Notre dame And Notre dame waxed

2528
01:55:44,320 --> 01:55:47,720
Speaker 2: them pretty. Bad navy is still an outside, chance probably

2529
01:55:47,720 --> 01:55:49,520
Speaker 2: even better than an outside chance now to get The

2530
01:55:49,560 --> 01:55:51,880
Speaker 2: group of five, bid considering the fact That memphis lost

2531
01:55:51,880 --> 01:55:54,040
Speaker 2: To tulane On friday, night so they come in at

2532
01:55:54,040 --> 01:55:56,400
Speaker 2: seven to one against tenth Reck Notre. DAME i don't

2533
01:55:56,400 --> 01:55:57,960
Speaker 2: think they'll Beat Notre. Dame to be honest with, You

2534
01:55:57,960 --> 01:56:00,400
Speaker 2: Notre dame is a twenty eight point. Favorite they'll probably

2535
01:56:00,440 --> 01:56:02,080
Speaker 2: run them off the field for a second straight. Year

2536
01:56:02,360 --> 01:56:04,480
Speaker 2: But navy's definitely gonna have at least motivation on their

2537
01:56:04,520 --> 01:56:06,120
Speaker 2: side to see if they can make a game of.

2538
01:56:06,200 --> 01:56:06,520
Speaker 2: It all.

2539
01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:09,520
Speaker 3: RIGHT i Mentioned Joel klatt. Earlier he's like ten games

2540
01:56:09,600 --> 01:56:12,080
Speaker 3: under five hundred with his. Picks neither of us are that.

2541
01:56:12,200 --> 01:56:15,560
Speaker 3: Bad we'll let you. Know we'll update you in two

2542
01:56:15,640 --> 01:56:19,360
Speaker 3: on two. Off coming up next here ON fna ON, fsr.

2543
01:56:23,800 --> 01:56:24,400
Speaker 4: You guys give.

2544
01:56:24,520 --> 01:56:27,240
Speaker 5: Up oh, Yes thursday for MORE FNA.

2545
01:56:27,360 --> 01:56:34,280
Speaker 3: Cottonna remember for the best pregame show every, weekend be

2546
01:56:34,360 --> 01:56:37,240
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2547
01:56:37,280 --> 01:56:41,120
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2548
01:56:41,120 --> 01:56:43,520
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2549
01:56:43,560 --> 01:56:46,280
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2550
01:56:46,320 --> 01:56:48,560
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2551
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2552
01:56:52,080 --> 01:56:55,080
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2553
01:56:55,120 --> 01:56:58,839
Speaker 2: App final segment HERE fna ON Fsr Fox Football saturday

2554
01:56:58,880 --> 01:57:00,880
Speaker 2: With Kevin figures And adam all Dust, Lynn it's time

2555
01:57:00,920 --> 01:57:03,000
Speaker 2: to get our official picks In adam before we check

2556
01:57:03,000 --> 01:57:06,720
Speaker 2: out of, Here let's go two on two.

2557
01:57:06,800 --> 01:57:13,560
Speaker 3: Off all, RIGHT i got the. Update, Okay Joel klatt

2558
01:57:13,960 --> 01:57:15,240
Speaker 3: is twenty one.

2559
01:57:17,080 --> 01:57:17,120
Speaker 6: And.

2560
01:57:17,400 --> 01:57:20,760
Speaker 3: Forty i'm. KIDDING i don't know Why i'm taking. Shots

2561
01:57:21,440 --> 01:57:23,520
Speaker 3: why Is joel catching strays from me every?

2562
01:57:23,520 --> 01:57:26,760
Speaker 2: Week because he ignores your calls and debt. Messages that's

2563
01:57:26,800 --> 01:57:28,680
Speaker 2: one accurate.

2564
01:57:29,160 --> 01:57:32,800
Speaker 3: Or it makes me feel better for being five hundred

2565
01:57:33,360 --> 01:57:36,160
Speaker 3: with my. PICKS i, Mean Scott Van pelt's under five.

2566
01:57:36,240 --> 01:57:38,760
Speaker 3: HUNDRED i mean all these, guys come, on it's Not

2567
01:57:39,400 --> 01:57:42,040
Speaker 3: it's not my fault That i'm eighteen and eighteen And

2568
01:57:42,160 --> 01:57:46,120
Speaker 3: kevin is twenty one and. Fifteen brot, Ownership i'm three

2569
01:57:46,240 --> 01:57:50,160
Speaker 3: behind the. Record looks it's, Deceiving, Okay i'm only three

2570
01:57:50,200 --> 01:57:52,520
Speaker 3: behind it you take three away from you give them to,

2571
01:57:52,560 --> 01:57:56,440
Speaker 3: me which might have to happen at some point in

2572
01:57:56,440 --> 01:57:58,720
Speaker 3: some weird rule change to two, on two off for

2573
01:57:58,760 --> 01:57:59,200
Speaker 3: me to have a.

2574
01:57:59,240 --> 01:58:01,120
Speaker 2: Chance we're trying to can fit the rules, now so

2575
01:58:01,320 --> 01:58:03,959
Speaker 2: to favor yourself out what it is that's turning, into.

2576
01:58:03,800 --> 01:58:07,480
Speaker 3: Here's how we play the, game, Kids two picks on,

2577
01:58:08,120 --> 01:58:13,240
Speaker 3: favorites two picks off of, favorites and on. Underdogs we

2578
01:58:13,360 --> 01:58:17,440
Speaker 3: are required to pick two favorites and two underdogs every

2579
01:58:17,480 --> 01:58:20,240
Speaker 3: week in THE nfl. Season, kevin you want to give

2580
01:58:20,280 --> 01:58:20,640
Speaker 3: me an, On.

2581
01:58:20,920 --> 01:58:23,320
Speaker 2: Yes i'm going with Your Carolina panthers five and a

2582
01:58:23,320 --> 01:58:26,160
Speaker 2: half point favorites over The New Orleans. Saints they've been

2583
01:58:26,160 --> 01:58:28,280
Speaker 2: playing so. Well have surprised the hell out of me

2584
01:58:28,840 --> 01:58:30,920
Speaker 2: with how well The panthers have performed this. Season The

2585
01:58:30,960 --> 01:58:33,360
Speaker 2: saints not so. Much to be honest with, You i'm

2586
01:58:33,440 --> 01:58:35,800
Speaker 2: kind of WHAT i expected from them this. Year but

2587
01:58:35,840 --> 01:58:38,160
Speaker 2: The panthers five and a half point, FAVORITES i can

2588
01:58:38,200 --> 01:58:40,040
Speaker 2: easily see them cover and that spread winning this thing

2589
01:58:40,040 --> 01:58:41,840
Speaker 2: by a touchdown at least Against New.

2590
01:58:41,920 --> 01:58:44,040
Speaker 3: ORLEANS i don't know if this is good news or bad,

2591
01:58:44,120 --> 01:58:48,080
Speaker 3: news Because i'm going here too and also picking My,

2592
01:58:48,160 --> 01:58:50,840
Speaker 3: panthers WHICH i rarely ever. Do, oh this is bad

2593
01:58:50,960 --> 01:58:54,760
Speaker 3: because it compounds the aggravation if not only do they

2594
01:58:54,840 --> 01:58:56,640
Speaker 3: lose the, game but they don't cover for me in

2595
01:58:56,680 --> 01:58:59,360
Speaker 3: two on two. Off BUT i just saw the line

2596
01:58:59,360 --> 01:58:59,880
Speaker 3: and now it's at.

2597
01:59:00,440 --> 01:59:01,800
Speaker 2: Five oh look at.

2598
01:59:01,800 --> 01:59:04,400
Speaker 3: That so we're getting an even better play, Here. Kevin

2599
01:59:04,920 --> 01:59:07,640
Speaker 3: just win by six or More bank Of America, stadium

2600
01:59:07,640 --> 01:59:10,520
Speaker 3: where they've been really good at home over a miserably

2601
01:59:10,600 --> 01:59:15,160
Speaker 3: Bad New Orleans saints. Team this shouldn't be so, hard all,

2602
01:59:15,240 --> 01:59:16,240
Speaker 3: right what's your other on, Here?

2603
01:59:16,320 --> 01:59:19,160
Speaker 2: Kevin i'm going with The lions eight point favorites Over,

2604
01:59:19,280 --> 01:59:23,240
Speaker 2: washington smarting after that loss last week To. Minnesota washington

2605
01:59:23,280 --> 01:59:25,720
Speaker 2: is it's a shell of. Themselves their defense is, old

2606
01:59:26,120 --> 01:59:28,440
Speaker 2: slow and not very, good and The lions have one

2607
01:59:28,480 --> 01:59:31,640
Speaker 2: of the better offenses in the ENTIRE. Nfl they're going

2608
01:59:31,680 --> 01:59:34,280
Speaker 2: to go up and down the field like. NOTHING i

2609
01:59:34,320 --> 01:59:36,680
Speaker 2: mean eight, points this thing could be eighteen, points AND

2610
01:59:36,680 --> 01:59:37,600
Speaker 2: i think The lions will cover.

2611
01:59:37,640 --> 01:59:39,600
Speaker 3: It to be honest with, you they do need to bounce.

2612
01:59:39,680 --> 01:59:44,080
Speaker 3: Back they lost at home To. MINNESOTA. YEP i was

2613
01:59:44,240 --> 01:59:49,480
Speaker 3: going between this or My colts minus six at home

2614
01:59:49,560 --> 01:59:55,120
Speaker 3: against The Atlanta. Falcons That's. Germans you're, right they're not at, home.

2615
01:59:55,360 --> 01:59:59,000
Speaker 3: Yep So i'm going with the with The Detroit lions as.

2616
01:59:59,040 --> 02:00:03,280
Speaker 3: WELL i keep thinking, That, yeah The colts are at,

2617
02:00:03,320 --> 02:00:06,440
Speaker 3: home they are gonna bounce, back but things could get whacky.

2618
02:00:06,520 --> 02:00:11,320
Speaker 3: Overseas so we're Some. Pataco we're both going with the same,

2619
02:00:11,360 --> 02:00:14,560
Speaker 3: teams with our ons, here with our. Favorites oh but

2620
02:00:14,680 --> 02:00:17,280
Speaker 3: what about your first off? Here what about first?

2621
02:00:17,320 --> 02:00:18,920
Speaker 2: Off we're going to have a little bit of a,

2622
02:00:18,920 --> 02:00:21,640
Speaker 2: different a different change. Here i'm going with The colts

2623
02:00:21,680 --> 02:00:23,600
Speaker 2: as six and a half point favorites over The. Falcons

2624
02:00:23,600 --> 02:00:25,760
Speaker 2: as an, OFF i think The falcons cover the spread

2625
02:00:25,800 --> 02:00:28,240
Speaker 2: here out there In. Germany they don't have To Forest,

2626
02:00:28,240 --> 02:00:31,800
Speaker 2: buckner but placed on injury reserve their best run stopper Bjar,

2627
02:00:31,880 --> 02:00:33,800
Speaker 2: robinson one of the better running backs in the. League

2628
02:00:33,800 --> 02:00:36,200
Speaker 2: atlanta gets back to with bread and, butter runs the

2629
02:00:36,240 --> 02:00:38,480
Speaker 2: ball a little. Bit maybe they don't, win but they

2630
02:00:38,520 --> 02:00:40,920
Speaker 2: absolutely cover that six and a half point, spread and

2631
02:00:40,960 --> 02:00:43,360
Speaker 2: we have a close and Tight niptok game towards the

2632
02:00:43,480 --> 02:00:47,800
Speaker 2: end out there In. Germany all, right the odds you

2633
02:00:47,880 --> 02:00:48,520
Speaker 2: talked me into.

2634
02:00:48,520 --> 02:00:52,480
Speaker 3: This next, One pittsburgh plus two and a half IN

2635
02:00:52,720 --> 02:00:57,480
Speaker 3: la they're home away from home against THE La chargers

2636
02:00:57,520 --> 02:00:59,240
Speaker 3: ON i Think Sunday night, football, Right.

2637
02:00:59,240 --> 02:01:01,600
Speaker 2: Yes that Is Sunday. Night i've been waiting all week

2638
02:01:01,760 --> 02:01:02,640
Speaker 2: Full Sunday.

2639
02:01:02,880 --> 02:01:05,640
Speaker 3: NIGHT i always mute that song and people probably just

2640
02:01:05,720 --> 02:01:08,720
Speaker 3: muted me right. NOW i also got The eagles plus

2641
02:01:08,720 --> 02:01:11,320
Speaker 3: one and a half in The monday night contest for

2642
02:01:11,440 --> 02:01:14,080
Speaker 3: my other off In Green bay against The. Packers what's

2643
02:01:14,120 --> 02:01:14,880
Speaker 3: your final off, Here?

2644
02:01:14,920 --> 02:01:17,280
Speaker 2: Kevin my final lof forty nine is five point dogs

2645
02:01:17,320 --> 02:01:19,440
Speaker 2: at home against The. Rams always close. Games they beat

2646
02:01:19,480 --> 02:01:21,760
Speaker 2: The rams at so far earlier this season when they

2647
02:01:21,760 --> 02:01:24,080
Speaker 2: had a mass unit out. There maybe they don't, win

2648
02:01:24,120 --> 02:01:25,960
Speaker 2: but this game is definitely gonna be decided by three

2649
02:01:25,960 --> 02:01:26,320
Speaker 2: points or.

2650
02:01:26,360 --> 02:01:29,800
Speaker 3: Less what is the deal With Kyle shanahan Owning sean.

2651
02:01:29,880 --> 02:01:33,000
Speaker 3: McVay no one Makes sean McVay bleed his own.

2652
02:01:33,000 --> 02:01:35,080
Speaker 2: Blood McVeigh owns it when it matters. Most in THE

2653
02:01:35,160 --> 02:01:37,440
Speaker 2: Nfc championship game a couple of years. Ago that's what matters.

2654
02:01:37,480 --> 02:01:41,120
Speaker 3: Most this is. Fair He's Kevin. Figures I'm Adam. Moleson

2655
02:01:41,160 --> 02:01:44,360
Speaker 3: thanks To, Mark thanks To Brandon Breebrey Nil Project Ail

2656
02:01:44,400 --> 02:01:44,680
Speaker 3: next