WEBVTT - Hell's Kitchen w/ Sara Bues 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:04.040 Of the law and order franchises, SVU is considered especially watchable. 0:00:04.280 --> 0:00:06.840 We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the 0:00:06.920 --> 0:00:08.879 vicious felonies. These episodes are based on. 0:00:09.200 --> 0:00:10.280 These are our stories. 0:00:10.680 --> 0:00:30.360 Dune Dune, Hello, and welcome to That's Messed Up and 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:31.440 USVU podcast. 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:34.440 I'm Kara Klaang and I'm Liza Traeger. Hello. 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:37.159 Every week we talk about an episode of SVU, the 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:39.279 true crime it's based on, and then we have an 0:00:39.280 --> 0:00:42.240 incredible interview with someone from the episode. 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:44.800 But at first we chit chat. 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:48.680 We have a lot to discuss, we do right before 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:50.520 the new year, right before. 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:52.040 We enter into twenty twenty two. 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:57.000 We obviously need to discuss sex and the city. 0:00:57.520 --> 0:00:58.120 Duh. 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:01.680 Obviously, And and I are and our friend Lauren did 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:04.039 have a wild night, a wild. 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:05.959 Night that wasn't actually that wild. 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:09.840 I think we're just elderly at this point and could 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:10.280 not happen. 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:10.959 I think it was. 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:14.840 I mean, listen, what had happened was we went to 0:01:15.800 --> 0:01:19.160 the very talented co host of Lost Culturista's podcast and 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:23.120 a very hilarious performer and singer, Matt Rogers has an 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:25.400 amazing Christmas show that he does. 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:27.720 We'll tell them who are who The piano play and 0:01:27.720 --> 0:01:30.039 composer of the songs are Hello and. 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:32.440 His co composer like the basically his right hand. The 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:34.600 guy who puts together all the songs with him is 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:39.039 Henry Koperski, who does our beautiful podcast theme song. So 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:41.640 we went to go see the two of them perform 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:44.000 at the Hollywood Improv. We had gone two years ago 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:48.040 pre pandemic, and it was like a glorious fun origining 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:52.919 original funny sincere Christmas music. 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:54.560 He's not shitting on Christmas. 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:58.000 It is only someone that loves Christmas like Matt does 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:00.919 can create such incredible music. 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:01.440 And we're just. 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:04.640 Because songs are like out of out of control funny. 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:05.880 They are so fucking funny. 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:07.440 Like one is from that point of view of Missus 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:10.200 Clause one is from the point of view of Martha 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:13.600 May Houvier from The Grinch, Wry Stole Christmas. Like one 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:18.600 is just like like about this Christmas. 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:21.480 I am dumbed if I fucked that up. But at 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:25.240 the end everyone sings Maria Carrie. I was jumping on 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:30.080 a booth, but I started with double vat ca sodas, 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:34.040 So that's where maybe the mistakes started. And then we 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:36.280 were I would also humiliated us because we were like 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:38.440 running around to meet Matt and all of his best 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:40.480 friends are just waiting like normal people in the lobby, 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:42.440 but we were like running up to the green room. 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:45.160 Because two years ago we went up to a green 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:47.480 room to hang out. I wonder if that's a COVID 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:49.560 thing now or something that you can't do that. But 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:51.320 I felt like a pushy aunt. I felt yeah. 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:52.720 We were like can we come up? 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:54.639 And he was like, well, I'll be out front in 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:58.079 a second, Like okay. But then we we had such 0:02:58.080 --> 0:02:59.680 a great time. There were just so many fun people 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:01.960 there that we knew, and it was really fun. And 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:04.799 then we were like, well, we ubered here, so we're 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:07.840 going out. And we went out in West Hollywood to 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:11.160 all these fun gay bars and we just did a 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:13.520 lot of shots and drank a lot of drinks. 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:16.240 Well, no, we found out our friend Lauren was throwing 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:17.600 the shots underneath the bar. 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:20.560 Oh like an app But to me, we're not bully 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:22.720 praying bitch, we're not bullies. 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:24.440 Why are you? Why am I spending money? 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:26.200 If you're not, you just say you don't say you 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:28.800 don't want it. She's just very rich now, so she 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:31.680 doesn't understand, but you don't have to be pouring the 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:34.320 shots under the bar, please. 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:34.840 I was. 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:38.000 I was buying them, and because I was trying to 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:40.120 like pay back, like when somebody bought a shot and around, 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:42.080 I'd be like, okay, my turn, now we're buying shots. 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:44.440 It was like a bad precedent to set. But alas, 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:45.720 but we did fall. 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:48.480 In love with Go Go Boy, who Kara kept turning 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:52.320 to the group and going, he's special, he has something special. 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:54.680 There's something about him. There was something about this Go 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:56.720 Go Boy. I was like, he's gonna be famous and 0:03:56.760 --> 0:03:58.600 he's gonna be like I used to dance, Go at 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:01.000 high tops. I also, I don't touch someone that's smooth 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:02.040 in such a long time. 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:05.200 Yeah, baby smooth. She was a little seal. 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:09.640 Yeah sexy seal, a sexy seal, and did go to 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:13.120 to We went to Tom Tom. We were we were 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:16.000 out with another podcast host who was getting a lot 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:16.480 of attention. 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:20.919 But I ordered Fireball and the girl was livid at me. 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:24.000 At the bartender, she goes, we don't have fireball, we 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:26.600 don't have Rumplements, we don't have Jaeger. And I was like, okay, 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:28.559 well now you're gonna make lemon drop shots. Are you happy? 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:31.520 Now? You're gonna love putting sugar on all those rims. 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:37.400 The fucking dumb bitch, like, oh my god, what a bitch. 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:39.440 I do want to eat there because I heard the 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:40.280 food at Tom Tom Is. 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:42.560 I have eaten there twice and I have enjoyed it 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:43.320 both times. 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:45.880 It was funny to go there having watched vander Pump 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:48.240 and having them like built that place and be like, ah, yes, 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:50.880 here are the gears. Here're the gears in person, like 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:54.000 all the gears on the wanna be steampunk? Like, well, 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:56.520 you guys were shaming me too, because I thought it's 0:04:56.520 --> 0:04:58.360 a cool looking bar, and. 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:00.560 You guys, oh, we were like, this place is not 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:01.679 this place. 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:07.479 This looks it just looks like wedding here. Serve those 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:11.119 goat cheese balls, bitch. Hell yeah, oh my god. Yes, 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:13.520 I wish I could have eaten food there. But we 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:17.040 had a great time. Unfortunately, two of us came home 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:20.600 without phones, but I will report my phone has been 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:23.440 located and I will be driving forty five minutes away 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:25.839 from Los Angeles right after I record this to pick 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:26.560 up my phone. 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:29.160 Our other friend was straight up robbed, but I wis 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:30.839 shouldn't have gone to the third bar. We went to 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:32.520 a third bar that I didn't realize we went to 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:35.440 till midday. Kara, I'm going to throw you under the bus. 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:37.279 What she did puke out of the uber? 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:38.520 I did? I did? 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:41.080 And when I got home, Yes, as I was getting 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:44.600 out into my house, I you know what, it's crazy 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:45.400 because I did. 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:46.320 Get extremely drunk. 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:49.359 I will not be ashamed of that, but I just 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:51.840 think it's the car ride makes me feel sick like 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:53.479 I would not. If I had been able to walk 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:54.839 home and go to bed, I would have been fine. 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:56.760 But I said, I was in a car for thirty minutes. 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:59.200 We're getting a hotel next time we go out. We're 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:01.880 going to just stay in Solidah Hotel tonight. 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:02.479 Yeah. 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:05.080 Or there's like a Ratisin right there next to eat 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:07.680 twenty four a twenty four hour diner. We'll just eat, 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:09.919 stay at a fucking Ratisin, and then go home to 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:10.279 our fan. 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:12.919 That's so we need to avoid all this drama, and 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:15.240 I'll find myself under the bus. I did wake up 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:18.200 around eight am to violently puke and sit in the 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:20.880 shower for about two hours. 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:23.880 I would say yeah, and I have to say I 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:26.839 barely have gotten super super drunk since I've been a parent, 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:29.480 like the way that I was this evening, and now this. 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:32.279 Happens to me when I get too excited. Yeah, because 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:34.960 remember a few months ago I opened for Sam Jay 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:37.880 at the Troubadour and I was so overwhelmed with excitement, 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:41.719 double tequila, sodas in bed by midnight, puking. So it's like, yeah, 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:44.480 it's like I'm nineteen and drove to Canada. 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:48.159 I yeah, like I don't. I do like to go out. 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:50.440 But I don't go out that often in that way 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:52.719 like usually I do shows, I have a few drinks. 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:54.840 Igah, Yeah, I go out and have a few drinks. 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:57.920 I'm home by twelve, Like you know, we were just 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:01.800 like Chris Maas, like we were getting home at three 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:05.719 am shots crazy. But I will say, and I know 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:07.920 people feel me that listened to this podcast because a 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:12.160 lot of you are parents, Parenting hungover is some seventh 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:12.960 circle of hell. 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:13.360 Shit. 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:17.160 It is the worst fucking thing because they do not 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:19.560 get what being hungover is. You can say mom doesn't 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:22.200 feel well, they do not give a shit. Rosie still 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:25.360 kept going mom, mom, Mom, Mom. It was a nightmare, 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:27.360 Like I just It made me like, I will think 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:29.200 of that the next time I'm out trying to like 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:29.920 do shots. 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:32.320 Yeah, I don't think our friend left the bed till 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:34.760 the evening, and neither did I. 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:37.480 I think we both. Unfortunately I did not have the option. 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:39.280 I did have to get up in parent But it 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:41.640 was a nightmare and it'll it serves me right. 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:48.400 No, it doesn't where you're allowed to go out, but yeah, 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:52.720 it was. It was pretty wild. And then to tame ourselves. 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:56.800 The next day, we went to like a Hallmark looking festival, 0:07:56.880 --> 0:07:58.800 like a Homemark Christmas festival. 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:02.440 I took Lisa with Rosie to this Christmas tree lighting 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:05.200 festival in Los Angeles in a neighborhood that's like adjacent 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:07.440 to ours, and Lisa goes, what are we go in. 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:09.120 A Hallmark movie? I go, maybe you're gonna meet your 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:10.200 husband tonight or your. 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:12.200 Wife, Like maybe we're gonna this is like a perfect 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:14.320 meat cute place, you know, like this is like we 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:17.520 were drinking hot chocolate, making ornaments, waiting for Santa to 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:18.640 arrive on a fire truck. 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:20.680 It was very like it was. 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:23.120 But I thought we were just going to Target. So 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:25.800 I did wear a Daria sweatshirt and grayceel pants. 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:28.120 So it wasn't the. 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:32.880 Christmas like stroll picking up guys that I was what 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:35.079 I was hoping for. And we do have to be 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:37.680 upfront that the hot chocolate was from a church, but 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:38.240 it was. 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:40.920 Oh yeah, they gave us a note from Jesus with 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:41.720 the hot chocolate. 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:42.880 But then they kept. 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:45.000 Stretching the lighting and so we didn't get to actually 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:45.680 see the tree. 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:46.600 Yeah, they didn't do that. 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:48.520 I think they didn't do the lighting until like the end, 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:50.280 because my friend sent me a video of her daughter 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:52.440 watching it. But Rosie got to see Santa in the 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:54.920 fire truck and it was worth it. She had a glass. 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:58.240 I have a video of her dancing like a psycho though, 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:01.880 like she was dancing pretty crazy. She was just running 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:05.960 back and forth like crazy. But wait, okay, so that 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:09.160 was fun. And then last night, I finally I know 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:11.200 I'm late, and a lot of you guys messaged us, 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:12.400 and I want to say a lot of you guys 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:15.120 messaged us with a fucking spoiler from the Sex and 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:17.920 the City show, and so I knew what was going 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:21.000 to happen before I watched, because some of you guys 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:22.120 slid into our gms with that. 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:23.800 So just be careful next time. 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:27.760 But Twitter and the articles, I mean, yeah, it's so fun. 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:30.640 You know, I lost my phone, so I didn't. I wasn't. 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:33.760 Actually I was able to make it till Sunday. But 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:35.920 it's okay. I watched it last night, both of the 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:37.520 first two episodes. 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:37.880 So okay. 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:41.200 I saw someone yesterday and I was talking about how 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:43.840 much I loved it, and she goes, that is so sweet. 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:45.960 I haven't heard anyone say a nice word about it. 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:48.440 So I was like the first person that she talked to. 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:50.520 Yeah, the reviews are really bad. 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:52.760 Well I wonder if they're the same people that would 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:55.040 have given the original show bad reviews, you know what 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:57.400 I mean? Yeah, maybe it's just like Okay. The first 0:09:57.440 --> 0:10:00.040 ten minutes I was nervous. I was like, ugh, I 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:01.680 don't know, is this gonna be bad? Is my favorite 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:04.720 show gonna be bad? And then I was in. I 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:07.360 was in. I really loved that they went there and 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:12.160 made the characters fucking flawed. They're elderly, old, white rich 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:14.480 people in New York and they're gonna have problems, and 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:20.480 I am like impressed with how annoying they made Charlotte Listen. 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:24.200 I am gonna keep watching it, it's it's fun. It 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:27.600 made me deeply, deeply sad. I mean, don't listen to 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:29.800 this part if you haven't watched it yet, Like it 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:32.920 really really made me sad, Like that affected me. But 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:36.920 also they're leaning too hard into the elderly stuff, like 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:38.760 the fact that you're calling them elderly. They're in their 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:41.880 mid fifties, Like that's not elderly. Why is Steve wearing 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:42.720 hearing aids? 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:44.920 Like people can lose their hearing. 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:47.800 Sure they can, but they're like they're leaning too far 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:49.960 into it in my opinion, like just be in your 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:52.760 fifties killing it. And many women are like, we don't 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:54.800 have to be this, like what's TikTok? 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:55.480 Like I don't know. 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:57.480 It's a little cringey a lot of it to me, 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:02.280 but I'm enjoying it. The fashion, the New York, the people. 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:04.319 I'm gonna keep watching it, you know. And I like 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:06.120 some of these New Edition characters. 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:09.080 I think Sarah Ramirez killed it because they're playing a 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:11.760 stand up comic. So it's like you're gonna be more 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:17.400 critical And I wasn't an I was into it. I 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:19.280 was like, I can see this being a comic that 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:24.360 I would run into out and about, and I loved 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:24.720 the week. 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:27.320 Wait is the is the premise that they are going 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:28.680 to be a love interest from Miranda. 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:30.000 I mean, that's what we're hoping for. 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:32.880 Miranda is gonna clearly I didn't I'm about to say, clearly, 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:34.840 I did not catch this. This one over my head. 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:37.840 My friend Julia had to tell me. But Miranda's gonna 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:40.280 have a drinking problem. Obviously, there was a. 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:44.640 Few oh see, I did drink Chablis moments, but I 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:46.520 thought that was like nerves. 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:50.280 Yeah, but before class, before the funeral speech obviously, but 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:54.040 like before class, and then I think there was one 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:58.000 more but people caught onto that. But I thought her 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:02.360 being a dumb bitch and class was so cringing and uncomfortable. 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:03.920 In the best harble but in the best way. 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:06.160 And at the train when she's like and I knew 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:08.360 I had to go to like, I feel like I 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:12.120 might have been this person during the pandemic. I think 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:16.800 most whites that are trying to do good have these moments, 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:19.120 you know what I mean, like, and I liked that 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:21.960 they showed it. And no, no, Brad, I did. I 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:24.560 have worked with Karen Pittman, so that was exciting. To 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:26.560 see who is that the professor? 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:30.440 Oh wow, excuse me, she's cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:33.360 She was in Horace and Pete, so I she's cool 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:35.880 and she was in a really cool I enjoyed her 0:12:35.920 --> 0:12:37.880 in Horace Empete a lot, so I was excited. 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:40.160 Oh and the woman that plays Charlotte's friend is so 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:43.280 beautiful Nicole Arie Parker, great fashion. 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:45.360 I just like that Charlotte's a dumb bitch. 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:47.120 I feel like I've had a friend like this where 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:51.280 it's like, Carrie's husband just died, why are you crying 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:52.760 and making it about you? 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:56.440 Absolutely, we've had family tragedies where there's always one. I 0:12:56.480 --> 0:13:00.079 remember a friend of my mom's just fully like sobbing 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:01.920 on the couch and asking me to bring her tile 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:03.280 in all when we had a death in our family, 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:05.440 and I was like, bitch, get out of here, like 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:09.000 it's just like crazy when people make it so about them. 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:11.640 And kept doing it. And Susan Sharon. 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:15.959 Susan Sharon though, killed me like that was so funny. 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:19.400 She looked so to her and she she looked incredible, credible, 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:21.000 And when they cut to her and she goes, does 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:23.120 anyone remember him being a total dick to her like 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:26.360 I was like, that broke up the sadness of that 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:28.400 scene for me, Like that was. 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:32.760 So when he died. I cried when Samantha sent the flowers. 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:35.880 I cried during the speech. I mean I was crying 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:36.200 a lot. 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:38.520 And I like what they're doing with Samantha. 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:41.000 I guess that they're talking about her so respectfully and 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:43.120 not being shitty or like killing her. But I'm also 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:46.080 like she would be there, like she would absolutely be there. 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:48.400 Yes, but we I know. I saw that on Twitter 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:50.200 and people bitching about that. It's like could have what 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:52.400 a should have? What are you talking about? In the 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:53.920 words of Samantha, I hope you got that. 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:57.680 Yeah, but she doesn't want to do it. They did 0:13:57.720 --> 0:13:58.560 the best that they could. 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:01.960 They're not going to fucking kill Samanonantha, Okay, go fuck yourselves. 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:06.120 And she maybe wouldn't have been on a plane. COVID 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:08.400 was just over. There could have been travel restrictions, like 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:10.720 you don't know everything, and same with the big where 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:12.880 it's like, how did they do this? He might have said, 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:15.800 I'm only doing one you know. With Maloney, people are like, 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:17.839 oh what happened? It was a contract issue, that's why 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:22.680 he left. Okay, like there's more to stuff than creative things. Yeah, 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:25.040 I was just hating people bitching about stuff that they 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:26.000 have no control over. 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:28.160 No, I know, I just for. 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:30.120 Some reason, I'm like, well, I was reading a lot 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:32.560 of stuff that was like, maybe they should have killed Samantha. 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:34.000 No, would you have thought if they did that? 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:36.320 No, because we're still hopeful she might come back in 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:39.800 season two. Honey, this is like the dextra situation. Let's 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:41.920 be hopeful, let's be open, and let's work with what 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:44.760 we got. And they don't want to they could not kills. 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:46.960 I don't think it was right to kill Samantha because 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:47.920 that would have been a fuck you. 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:50.800 And I think they're trying to be chill. No, I 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:53.120 was happy they didn't. I was happy they didn't. But 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:56.280 I mean also like I don't know the reason for 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:59.160 the breakup didn't seem enough, like I don't know. 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:01.080 Well, yeah, that's that's one thing on Twitter where I 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:04.120 saw like they're like Samantha in the second movie had 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:07.760 a giant pr agency in Times Square. What do you 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:10.360 mean she couldn't handle your book? You know what I mean? 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:14.600 Like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but they did what they could. 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:16.320 I love what well. 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:19.320 I also saw a really funny meme of Lily and 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:22.200 it's like, wow, Lily really is ruining Carrie's life because 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:25.600 the reason the wedding didn't happen. Yeah, and she had 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:27.240 to go to that recital and it's like, it is 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:29.120 your fault, Charlotte, it is your fault. 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:31.080 And I would blame her and I would not want 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:31.640 to be her friend. 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:35.480 Yes, but don't you think you Lisa, You cannot blame 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:38.040 someone like that. If he had a heart attack ready 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:39.480 to happen, it was gonna happen. 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:41.600 At the point. That's how I felt about her. 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:44.440 And then she was acting the way she was acting, Yes, 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:45.880 the way she was acting. 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:49.600 She would be cut out of my life. I would 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:52.000 blame her. And if she kept crying and making it 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:54.880 about oh I love They're just such good actresses and 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:57.520 anyone that hates the show, I think just doesn't understand. 0:15:57.560 --> 0:16:00.800 Like the moment when Carrie goes, I'd prefer that when 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:02.800 Charlotte's like, yeah, can you be alone? I'm like, you 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:05.160 guys are just so talent, and it's like it's our 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:07.440 old girls. I feel it's their old person at it's 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:08.200 like who they are. 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:11.680 Yeah, and Sarah Jessica Parker looks great, and I do 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:13.600 like that they're forcing her to be a little bit 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:17.320 more uh open on this podcast situation that she's doing. 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:18.880 I think it's there's a. 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:20.240 Lot of good about it, but there was just parts 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:21.760 of it that I was like, eh. 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:22.720 Like that were cringey for me. 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:25.440 But I think they were purposely cringey. I think we 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:28.040 were supposed to feel uncomfortable with Miranda in that class 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:29.320 room and on the train platform. 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:32.280 Yeah. Also did Steve's accent. 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:33.680 And I don't want to bad mouth him at all, 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:35.880 because Lord knows we want him on this podcast. But 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:40.600 Steve's accent was like on Quadruple Drive, like he was like. 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:42.520 Hey, you was, guys, what's what the bike? 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:42.760 Like? 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:45.280 I just thought he turned it up like high. 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:46.760 It was like he had it. Maybe he hadn't like 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:48.680 talked like Steve in twenty years and was like is. 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:49.560 This what he sounded like? 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:50.280 Eh? 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:51.480 Like it was just so. 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:54.760 Like, well, that reminds me nobody wanted to like everyone's like, 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:57.600 no one wants to see Brady be fucking like leave. 0:16:57.840 --> 0:16:58.600 Oh god. 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:01.640 It was like too much, But it's real, you know, 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:04.719 thinking about like I just love how real it is 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:08.000 in I don't. I mean, I but that happens. Are 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:10.120 you gonna let your kids fucker out? Like it's kind 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:10.600 of cool? 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:11.280 I don't know. 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:15.240 In the house, yeah, I mean god, I just I 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:16.680 can't think about that right now. 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:19.239 I have a six month old. I can't think about it. 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:20.639 You also have another child? 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:24.439 No, I know, but I feel like it's more of 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:26.840 a guy would ask to do that. Maybe I don't 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:29.600 know why, Like I don't know, but maybe I'm being wrong. 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:33.200 Rosie could fuck too. Yeah, she's gonna be fucking. 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:38.280 I also love that they used the apartment like Stanford 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:41.640 and Mario how to having an issue or Anthony. Sorry, 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:44.080 it's like Stanford and Anthony having an issue, And like 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:47.560 the apartment being used all the time was nice like 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:49.600 that he's like, oh, I already have a key. And 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:53.400 I like that they made Stanford annoying Stanford Wait, can 0:17:53.440 --> 0:17:55.560 I ask? I mean, we have to stop. 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:57.400 We really have to get into an episode today because 0:17:57.440 --> 0:17:59.040 this is not a Sex in the City podcast, though 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:02.040 maybe we will start one. Listen, why was there that 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:04.520 weird scene with him telling Glorya to get out of 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:04.960 his seat? 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:06.879 It just felt like it lasted too long. 0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:10.200 Well, because I think they needed to show that Anthony 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:14.080 was like disgusted by his behavior. Okay, and maybe they 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:17.880 love each other, but it's like when you don't grow, evolve, change, 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:21.280 like and he was rude to her. I mean, clearly 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:23.800 this woman knows big, so like, what do you want? 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:26.600 But where Stanford was coming from was I get that 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:29.040 when he's like, yeah, it's my best friend and I'm 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:30.240 gonna sit next to her. 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:32.879 Yeah, I understood that too, So it just seemed like 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:34.840 a weird scene that went on too long. 0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:37.480 But it wasn't to support her. It didn't seem like 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:39.360 it was to support her. It was, oh, I get 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:41.720 to be close. And that was solidified with his comment 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:44.679 about like I would have liked to speak. And I 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:49.040 just think because something's gonna obviously happen with Stanford. 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:51.159 Well right, I think what I read in a review 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:54.120 is that he's getting pretty much abruptly written out after 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:55.600 season four, episode four. 0:18:56.440 --> 0:18:59.120 Sure, but it needs to be a death because even 0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:01.480 if him and Anthony get divorced or that's what they're 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:04.600 leading towards, or that's what was on par like, he 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:08.040 would still be Charlotte's friend. And I loved that, I 0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:10.720 mean Carrie's friend. But I also loved that Charlotte was like, 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:13.359 you didn't call me, and it's like, no, I want 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:16.280 Stanford right now. It's not fucking about I mean, Charlotte 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:18.000 to me was triggering for sure. 0:19:19.800 --> 0:19:20.320 I get it. 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:25.080 Yeah, more annoying than ever, but I'm impressed. I love 0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:28.919 Sarah Ramirez and Miranda Hopeful. What's gonna happen. 0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:32.400 I you're a die hard and I think there's very 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:35.760 little they could do to turn you off, and I 0:19:35.800 --> 0:19:38.280 am excited to keep watching it. I liked it. I 0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:40.159 had a good time. It felt like being back with 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:40.800 old friends. 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:43.960 Yeah, no, up top I was it was like too caricatury, 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:45.960 but I thought they've gotten to a rhythm. And then 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:50.359 the trailer for what's coming on this season looks awesome. Yeah, 0:19:50.480 --> 0:19:53.000 because we love that actress too, who was in the 0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:54.439 COVID episode that made you. 0:19:54.440 --> 0:19:57.040 Cry of Svie. Yeah, so rita child raise her name? 0:19:57.119 --> 0:20:00.560 Yeah, yeah, from Homeland, So that's gonna be fucking I'm exciting. 0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:00.880 Yeah. 0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:03.720 Yeah, she'll be a cool character too. She's Carrie's real 0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:04.359 estate agent. 0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:06.560 I think I'm just happy to have them back and 0:20:06.680 --> 0:20:08.959 stop trying to make it what it was. And I 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:11.400 just hate everyone's shitting on it, like, go fuck yourself. 0:20:11.560 --> 0:20:13.560 I don't know if you want to engage with Lee's 0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:15.960 about this more antagonize her on Twitter. 0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:16.320 Please. 0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:20.720 Okay, let's start today's episode. Cauz, we got a good 0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:21.159 one for you. 0:20:21.480 --> 0:20:25.400 Yeah, ah right. 0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:29.160 So this is Hell's Kitchen. I have lived in this neighborhood, 0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:30.160 so that's exciting. 0:20:30.520 --> 0:20:33.440 I worked for many years in this neighborhood and love, love, 0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:34.399 love Hell's kitchen. 0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:35.879 What did you do in Hell's Kitchen? 0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:40.040 I worked for a producer at a little production you know, 0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:42.640 my Devilwar's been in a republic job. 0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:43.280 I would say. 0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:47.199 It's interesting because a lot of these restaurants that we're 0:20:47.400 --> 0:20:49.440 we're going to talk about in this episode where restaurants 0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:51.560 I like, had to make reservations for that boss set. 0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:54.680 So it's like bringing me back. Oh amazing. I've also 0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:55.240 been a server. 0:20:55.320 --> 0:20:57.119 I think you have too, so I'm sure we'll have 0:20:57.119 --> 0:20:58.600 a lot of personal Yeah. 0:20:58.640 --> 0:20:59.600 But not in New York. 0:20:59.640 --> 0:21:02.880 I didn't, No, not in but I had a great 0:21:02.920 --> 0:21:04.960 It was the first neighborhood I lived in in New York. 0:21:05.080 --> 0:21:07.800 I did live in a one bedroom railroad with one 0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:10.639 other person. We did share a bed, and we only 0:21:10.640 --> 0:21:14.080 had one sink in the kitchen, not in the bathroom, 0:21:14.119 --> 0:21:15.800 and you had to climb over the toilet to get 0:21:15.800 --> 0:21:16.359 into the tub. 0:21:16.400 --> 0:21:20.639 And we each paid nine fifty. Oh my god, which 0:21:20.680 --> 0:21:23.080 is like a steal. I'm like nine to fifty in Manhattan. 0:21:23.359 --> 0:21:23.960 And this is. 0:21:23.960 --> 0:21:28.080 Where the guy came up the ladder too, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:21:28.119 --> 0:21:31.800 it was between tenth and eleventh. But we just were 0:21:31.880 --> 0:21:34.639 so desperate to live our sex in the city fantasy 0:21:34.720 --> 0:21:37.959 and live in Manhattan. Like the moment Manhattan was brought up, 0:21:38.040 --> 0:21:40.080 we were like, oh, yeah, we'll share a bed, but. 0:21:40.080 --> 0:21:45.560 Yeah, we'll live in Manhattan. We only lasted like seven months, 0:21:45.600 --> 0:21:48.920 eight months in there, but so happy to see Hell's 0:21:49.000 --> 0:21:52.320 Kitchen getting some love not love, I don't know. Attacks Okay, 0:21:52.320 --> 0:21:57.199 season twenty, episode it starts with classical music playing, so 0:21:57.320 --> 0:22:01.080 obviously something fancy is happening, and and we see like 0:22:01.119 --> 0:22:04.000 a thin slice of a radish looking thing delicate foods, 0:22:04.000 --> 0:22:06.480 so we're at a restaurant. And then we see like 0:22:06.520 --> 0:22:08.800 a tattooed sleeve of a man, so we know that's 0:22:08.840 --> 0:22:13.280 the chef. Okay, chefs love tattoos, and these looks cool. 0:22:13.320 --> 0:22:15.800 It wasn't like the anatomy of a pig or. 0:22:15.800 --> 0:22:20.000 I know you always see is that fucking like all 0:22:20.119 --> 0:22:23.000 like the haunches, like all the different labels of the 0:22:23.040 --> 0:22:25.399 pig cuts, And I'm like, you guys need that's to 0:22:25.480 --> 0:22:28.600 me like the tramp stamp of the culinary world. 0:22:29.920 --> 0:22:32.880 Yeah, chefs, I mean, I have a lot of bad tattoos, 0:22:32.880 --> 0:22:37.320 I guess, but chefs are notorious for pretty terrible tattoos. 0:22:37.320 --> 0:22:38.720 But it is a job you get to be like 0:22:38.800 --> 0:22:42.600 fully tatted for. And so yeah, this chef man, he's 0:22:42.640 --> 0:22:45.840 picking up tiny flowers with tweezers placing it on a salad. 0:22:45.880 --> 0:22:47.400 I don't really like this kind of bullshit. 0:22:47.840 --> 0:22:51.040 I do it if someone else is paying, and I 0:22:51.119 --> 0:22:54.000 don't love it. I want real food. I want real food. 0:22:54.000 --> 0:22:57.840 I don't want a flower pedal. He has an earring 0:22:57.920 --> 0:22:59.960 and he's yelling loud. You know, he's one of those 0:23:00.320 --> 0:23:02.280 Hell's Kitchen what is it, Master Kitchen? 0:23:02.320 --> 0:23:04.119 What's the one where you know you're right? Hell's Kitchen 0:23:04.160 --> 0:23:07.359 is Gordon Ramsey. Oh wow, this is really connected. 0:23:07.560 --> 0:23:10.280 Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, And he's the one that's always 0:23:10.280 --> 0:23:12.640 screaming at people. Yeah, but you know what I love 0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:14.120 is I don't know if you ever watch him host 0:23:14.200 --> 0:23:16.920 the kids show. But he's completely different and there yeah 0:23:17.000 --> 0:23:20.680 with the with the yeah, yeah, there's montages of going 0:23:20.720 --> 0:23:22.800 back and forth, like how he speaks to adults and 0:23:22.800 --> 0:23:26.359 then children, but it's because he's passionate and you do 0:23:26.400 --> 0:23:29.640 get to yeah. I mean, it is an abusive, toxic environment. 0:23:29.840 --> 0:23:32.719 Usually if you're at a job where it's people's passions, 0:23:33.720 --> 0:23:34.720 you can exploit them. 0:23:35.359 --> 0:23:36.480 We've we've lived it. 0:23:36.560 --> 0:23:39.080 So yeah, if like you know that everyone is desperate 0:23:39.160 --> 0:23:41.160 to live their dreams, you can. 0:23:41.400 --> 0:23:44.439 You can ruin our lives. That's that's basically it. 0:23:44.480 --> 0:23:48.080 We'll sign anything, we'll work for free, we'll take an internship, 0:23:48.680 --> 0:23:53.919 we'll drive eight hours. So anyways, toxic chef vibes. But 0:23:53.960 --> 0:23:56.359 then he started talking about lobster and squidink pasta, and 0:23:56.400 --> 0:23:58.600 I'm back on board. In this restaurant, I was like, okay, 0:23:58.640 --> 0:24:02.239 I would I would definitely order that, okay. And there 0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:05.440 are some vap customers and they produce a kid's food. 0:24:05.200 --> 0:24:08.120 Show and among other things. 0:24:08.240 --> 0:24:11.679 So it's like the front of house manager and the 0:24:11.800 --> 0:24:15.639 chef are walking to this like table of fancy food 0:24:15.680 --> 0:24:20.480 show producers. The chef is Andrew Leebowitz. He is a Jew, obviously, 0:24:21.640 --> 0:24:24.439 and the restaurant is called Far Rockaway, even though it's 0:24:24.440 --> 0:24:26.159 in Manhattan, and I hate when people do this. 0:24:27.480 --> 0:24:28.600 He doesn't bother you. 0:24:28.640 --> 0:24:30.240 No, there's just like a bar that you used to 0:24:30.280 --> 0:24:32.399 have a commedge show called like Coney Island Baby, but 0:24:32.480 --> 0:24:35.160 it's in Manhattan. It makes no sense to me. Yeah, 0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:38.240 why is this called far Rockaway? You're trying to confuse people. 0:24:38.720 --> 0:24:40.959 I think that they're like, we're bringing a little bit 0:24:40.960 --> 0:24:45.879 of a hometown to Manhattan, you know, like it's like 0:24:45.920 --> 0:24:47.720 I grew up on the beaches the fall Rockaway, but 0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:49.440 now I made it my dreams in the big city. 0:24:49.600 --> 0:24:51.199 Like I don't know. I think that's like what the 0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:52.159 goal is, but I don't know. 0:24:53.720 --> 0:24:55.960 And then he drops one of the plates off though, 0:24:55.960 --> 0:24:59.280 and it's octopus with deconstructed coleslaw. 0:25:00.119 --> 0:25:02.920 What does that just mean? 0:25:03.000 --> 0:25:06.199 Like shreds of cabbage separate from shreds of carrot, and 0:25:06.240 --> 0:25:07.400 then a pile of mayonnaise. 0:25:07.440 --> 0:25:07.800 How does that? 0:25:07.840 --> 0:25:11.200 How is that exactly? And how is that fancy or delicious? 0:25:11.240 --> 0:25:14.520 Like that just sounds disgusting. And then the other guy 0:25:14.560 --> 0:25:16.119 got like some polenta, which I do like. 0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:20.640 I like polenta. He makes a joke about like dessert 0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:22.679 giving them wood. Yeah, I don't know. 0:25:22.760 --> 0:25:26.360 So they get hard for desserts and so they're having 0:25:26.400 --> 0:25:29.640 a moment. So the chef is like, to the producers, 0:25:29.640 --> 0:25:31.439 why don't you stay after dinner. We have a private 0:25:31.520 --> 0:25:33.960 room after powers, you know, So we get the vibe 0:25:33.960 --> 0:25:36.520 that the some scummy stuff might happen. They're getting hard 0:25:36.520 --> 0:25:38.760 on desserts and there's a private room, and then he 0:25:39.160 --> 0:25:42.040 starts massaging the shoulders of this waitress named Kayla shas 0:25:42.080 --> 0:25:43.160 beautiful red hair and. 0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:43.920 A bold red lip. 0:25:44.320 --> 0:25:46.680 And then we cut to a salad that looks like shit, 0:25:46.760 --> 0:25:48.760 and you're like eh, and then you realize we're at 0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:52.480 Benson's house, so it makes a little more sense. Noah 0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:55.920 is mad about the salad. He hates olives. There's olives, 0:25:55.920 --> 0:25:58.120 and I'm on Noah's side. You don't like olives either. 0:25:58.240 --> 0:26:00.119 I hate olives too, But you know, I'm never on 0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:04.960 Noah's side. I mean, he's just sitting there being like, 0:26:04.960 --> 0:26:07.160 I want Pizza's like, yeah, we all want fucking pizza, kid. 0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:07.879 You don't get that. 0:26:08.200 --> 0:26:11.800 All the time Benson's CPS workers on her ass all 0:26:11.840 --> 0:26:14.520 the time. She finds out your feet him pizza every day. 0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:17.280 She's gonna lose you, so you want to go back 0:26:17.320 --> 0:26:18.560 into the system to meet your salad. 0:26:18.720 --> 0:26:21.240 Yeah, but this is Rosie. Rosie only needs a quesadilla 0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:22.520 and a pesta pasta. 0:26:22.680 --> 0:26:25.399 But I sneak veggies in. She eats a tortolini that 0:26:25.440 --> 0:26:27.520 has spinach in it. She eats a smoothie that has 0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:29.200 avocado and spinach, I sneak it. 0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:30.280 She's two. 0:26:30.520 --> 0:26:33.080 My friends have assured me that by the time she's 0:26:33.280 --> 0:26:36.240 Noah's age, which is like seven in this episode, or eight, 0:26:37.000 --> 0:26:38.640 that she'll be eating more different things. 0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:41.080 I talk about this all the time when I waitress. Now, 0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:43.720 over a decade ago, I will never remember. I will 0:26:43.720 --> 0:26:47.120 never forget. I'll never remember. I will never forget. This 0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:49.960 young girl ordered the garlic shrimp and I was like, 0:26:50.240 --> 0:26:51.280 I like you, like. 0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:53.560 I just like a little kid. I love when a 0:26:53.640 --> 0:26:54.800 kid is like. 0:26:54.880 --> 0:26:57.680 Our friend posted a photo of her son squeezing lemon 0:26:57.720 --> 0:26:59.800 on an oyster and sucking it down, and I'm like 0:26:59.840 --> 0:27:00.840 that that's fucking aweso. 0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:01.439 Oh yeah. 0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:04.000 My friend Alice came to LA with like her eight 0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:05.639 year old and we went out to dinner to like 0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:08.000 a nice place in Echo Park, and she was like, 0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:10.760 do you want the cornish hen Eloise? And Eloise was 0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:13.120 like sure, like she was so ad like she goes 0:27:13.119 --> 0:27:15.480 she has a pretty good palette, and I was like, okay, 0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:19.200 like my fingers are fucking cross. Rosie wouldn't even eat 0:27:19.200 --> 0:27:21.240 pizza the other day. I was begging her to finish 0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:24.200 your pizza and she was like, na, what did she want? 0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:27.320 Animal crackers? Well, she wanted dessert. She wanted a popsicle 0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:31.159 or ice cream. She's a sugarhound. And you can have 0:27:31.200 --> 0:27:33.199 taste bud changes too, Like I remember I used to 0:27:33.200 --> 0:27:35.600 never eat anything spicy, and now I'll eat a halopeno 0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:36.560 like in something. 0:27:36.640 --> 0:27:37.840 You know, I. 0:27:37.600 --> 0:27:41.040 Really love holowpanio poppers. It's like a new moment. Maybe 0:27:41.040 --> 0:27:44.479 we should eat that tonight. Don't eat dinners, Let's get Halowpenno. 0:27:43.960 --> 0:27:47.399 Poppers or not. Okay, so you know what sold? Okay? 0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:49.840 He said nothing, I go never mind, never mind. 0:27:50.080 --> 0:27:52.359 I was like, I was literally scanning my brain for 0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:54.679 where can we get them around here. I'll absolutely do 0:27:54.720 --> 0:27:57.320 halopenio poppers. Yes, okay. 0:27:57.400 --> 0:28:01.199 So anyways, now off from the food, we'll go to 0:28:01.440 --> 0:28:04.679 my favorite topic. Fashion. Benson sweater. I want it. I 0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:05.080 want it. 0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:10.159 It was oversized cozy, white, gray, black, like, oh what 0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:12.520 a great fucking at home sweater. 0:28:13.800 --> 0:28:16.280 He spits out the olives. Benson doesn't know what to do. 0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:18.000 They're having a moment, so they cut back to the 0:28:18.040 --> 0:28:21.520 restaurant and Kayla and the bartender at this VIP room. 0:28:21.520 --> 0:28:25.119 They're taking shots and then the producer, one of the producers, 0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:27.960 asked Kayla to sit on his face. So that's pretty fun, 0:28:28.000 --> 0:28:30.240 and then he like does a little dance thing, tricks 0:28:30.240 --> 0:28:33.080 her to sit on his lap, like it's just a mess. 0:28:33.119 --> 0:28:34.639 To the front of housewoman. 0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:36.680 Is like you okay, and Kayla goes a half the gig, right, 0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:38.200 I had to put subtitles on. 0:28:38.240 --> 0:28:40.200 I listened to this eight times. I could not understand 0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:40.920 what she was saying. 0:28:41.200 --> 0:28:45.680 You need diction help to whatever actress this is. She's 0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:48.560 clearly not the guest. I'm talking shit about her. But 0:28:49.920 --> 0:28:53.440 so that's half the gig. And the bar manager woman goes, yeah, 0:28:53.520 --> 0:28:54.640 story of my life. 0:28:54.720 --> 0:28:57.720 So we get a thing that this is just like 0:28:57.800 --> 0:28:59.680 how it is. You know, you have to put up 0:28:59.680 --> 0:28:59.920 with it. 0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:04.080 And my friend Alex was like a waitress at US, 0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:07.040 like a hip, hip packed sports bar in Chicago. She 0:29:07.080 --> 0:29:08.840 said she had to leave because people would just touch 0:29:08.840 --> 0:29:11.520 her so much, like you get fully just harassed and 0:29:11.560 --> 0:29:12.400 grabbed and touched. 0:29:12.440 --> 0:29:14.400 You know, it's funny because like I worked at a 0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:17.600 restaurant in Boston. That's my only waitress experience is I 0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:20.240 worked at this like jet when like jazz kind of 0:29:20.320 --> 0:29:23.080 came back and like the early two thousands, remember when 0:29:23.120 --> 0:29:25.080 it was like cherry pop and daddies and all that shit. 0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:28.400 I worked at a martini bar, like massive bartantinis the 0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:32.040 size of like a cereal bowl, and then like jazz 0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:34.800 live jazz music, and the food was like whatever, but 0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:37.800 people did eat there, and so and I wore like 0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:39.960 a button up white shirt with a black clip on 0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:42.040 tie and like black pants, and I remember being like, oh, 0:29:42.200 --> 0:29:44.120 so gross this outfit. And now I'm like, I'm pretty 0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:47.080 happy actually that they made me dress like a penguin 0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:50.360 because then I like didn't get my ass grabbed a lot. 0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:50.640 You know. 0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:54.280 Yeah, no, this sports bar was not penguin outfits, I'll 0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:55.000 tell you that much. 0:29:55.240 --> 0:29:57.880 Yeah. 0:29:58.000 --> 0:30:00.400 So now we cut to two cops in a different 0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:03.800 culinary vibe. They have bags of fast food and they're 0:30:03.840 --> 0:30:06.960 really excited to eat in their car, and then while 0:30:06.960 --> 0:30:08.880 they're walking with the fast food, they happen upon a 0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:11.200 woman that's fighting out of a car, kicking what we 0:30:11.240 --> 0:30:13.760 can assume is an Uber driver, so she's like kicking 0:30:13.760 --> 0:30:16.200 and fighting. So they run and it is Kayla Morgan, 0:30:16.360 --> 0:30:19.720 so it is the waitress from earlier and two UNICFORGN 0:30:19.920 --> 0:30:22.160 cops are now explaining to Careesy and Finn, like what 0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:25.240 happened on the scene. They found the Uber driver was 0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:27.880 climbing on top of her. He says though that she 0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:29.960 was wasted and wouldn't get out of his car and 0:30:30.000 --> 0:30:31.160 he was just trying to get her out of the 0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:34.520 car and he's actually the victim and that she's like, 0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:37.160 you know that she was hitting him. And Kayla is 0:30:37.160 --> 0:30:40.400 also not claiming rape, but her shirt was fully ripped open, 0:30:40.520 --> 0:30:43.120 so we don't know what's going on, but she put 0:30:43.160 --> 0:30:45.920 up a fight and he wants to press charges for assault. 0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:49.720 Credits so that's a lot okay. 0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:52.840 So now we're back from the credits and Kayla is 0:30:52.880 --> 0:30:55.440 with Benson and Rollins at the precinct and she's like, listen, 0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:59.120 I don't remember anything. I've told everybody what happened, and 0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:01.440 she says she doesn't if the Uber driver did anything. 0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:04.000 She's like, I passed out and he startled me, so 0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:05.760 I flipped out a little bit, like do I need 0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:08.440 a lawyer? What is happening? And Rollin's is like, don't 0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:10.920 worry about that, and Benson's like, we're just worried about you, 0:31:10.960 --> 0:31:12.560 like we don't care about anything else. 0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:15.560 And they're just very caring and I love them so much. 0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:17.760 So they're just trying to figure out what happened before 0:31:17.800 --> 0:31:20.320 the uber ride, but she doesn't really remember any of that. 0:31:21.040 --> 0:31:24.040 And then they cut to the boys in the interrogation 0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:26.040 room with the Uber driver and he's like, I am 0:31:26.040 --> 0:31:29.400 the victim. He keeps saying that, and he is such 0:31:29.440 --> 0:31:32.000 a fun actor. I like all the faces he made 0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:34.680 so much. But he's horrified at the allegations against him. 0:31:34.920 --> 0:31:37.840 It is not him, and he goes, take DNA, take 0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:40.360 lie detector or anything you want, and that's always that 0:31:40.360 --> 0:31:42.920 could go either way. It's like you're obviously clearly innocent 0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:45.360 or you're playing a game. So it's like, what's happening. 0:31:46.240 --> 0:31:48.320 Finn can't believe it, which I love. This is the 0:31:48.320 --> 0:31:51.120 best moment of this episode. He goes, I mean, there's 0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:53.240 a passed out girl in your car. You want to 0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:55.719 you want us to believe you kept driving, and like, 0:31:55.760 --> 0:31:58.440 I love that that's the standard. It's like, but that's 0:31:58.440 --> 0:32:00.960 how I've talked about this. I was recently, like a 0:32:00.960 --> 0:32:02.800 few months ago, blacked out with an uber driving. He 0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:05.160 hantic ups and I tipped him one hundred percent because 0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:06.800 I was like, you could have raped and kidnapped me. 0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:08.040 So here's a present. 0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:10.880 It's like, the baseline is you will get attacked. And 0:32:10.920 --> 0:32:13.320 even Finn's like, oh, you had a pass out girl 0:32:13.320 --> 0:32:15.840 and you didn't raper. I don't buy it, Like it 0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:19.280 is fucked that that is the standard. I'm like having 0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:20.440 a hard time with the one. 0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:23.040 Yeah, but well, I also like, I'm a huge if 0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:25.280 I've been drinking even a little bit, I pass out 0:32:25.280 --> 0:32:27.120 in transit, like if I'm in the car, like if 0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:29.000 I'm in obviously not if I'm the one driving, but 0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:31.680 like if I like, but like if I'm in the 0:32:31.680 --> 0:32:34.040 back of a car and it's late at night, good night, 0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:37.240 I'm out, you know. Like, so I don't know, it's 0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:40.800 probably bad. I probably shouldn't take ubers. But yeah, you're right, 0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:42.400 it's a sad standard. 0:32:42.680 --> 0:32:47.680 You're not really often drinking alone wildly, I would say, true, Yeah, 0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:48.000 I don't. 0:32:48.240 --> 0:32:50.040 Well, I was just thinking of the time the last 0:32:50.040 --> 0:32:52.080 time I drank and got really bombed in West Hollywood 0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:54.160 for Drag Race. I took out Uber home and demand 0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:57.040 definitely had to wake me up when I got home. Yeah, 0:32:57.120 --> 0:33:00.840 it's like wild, it's been wild, and I just loved 0:33:00.920 --> 0:33:03.040 Finns like, yeah, right, I don't know. 0:33:03.200 --> 0:33:04.920 I just it's very telling. 0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:07.800 And then he goes, we know he's not lying because 0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:08.960 he goes, no, I was talking to my wife on 0:33:09.000 --> 0:33:10.400 the phone the whole time, and I go, he's telling 0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:13.640 the truth. If you've ever if you've ever been in 0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:17.240 a New York City transportation, they are talking to their wives. Yeah, 0:33:17.320 --> 0:33:19.440 the wives are on a different time zone and they 0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:24.720 are chatting, and so Coreesi is sassy goes, you know, 0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:26.960 we hate that, and I actually like it. I like 0:33:27.000 --> 0:33:28.760 when they talk to their wives. It reminds me of 0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:31.080 sex and the city too. When and then it just 0:33:31.160 --> 0:33:33.080 it also means they're not talking to me. I don't 0:33:33.080 --> 0:33:34.040 want to talk to anyone. 0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:39.120 Usually sometimes I've had nice convos with cab drivers, truly, 0:33:39.240 --> 0:33:40.200 but not anymore. 0:33:40.800 --> 0:33:41.480 I'm done. 0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:45.400 But for many years, yeah, I would wear your children always, 0:33:45.560 --> 0:33:47.680 all the problems, everything. 0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:49.560 But I do get mad when they go, oh are 0:33:49.560 --> 0:33:51.520 you going home? I go, you shouldn't really ask women 0:33:51.520 --> 0:33:55.120 where they're going, what are you doing? Yeah? And if 0:33:55.120 --> 0:33:56.360 they go or you do you have a boyfriend? I 0:33:56.360 --> 0:33:58.880 always say yes, no matter what. Yeah. Always. 0:33:58.920 --> 0:34:04.480 He's huge and he's waiting for me on the curb. So, 0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:06.400 but the driver seems like a good guy. 0:34:06.400 --> 0:34:07.840 He goes. I realized something was wrong. 0:34:07.960 --> 0:34:11.399 She had weird zombie vibes and I tried to help 0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:13.880 her out and she flipped out. They cut back to 0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:16.120 her and she wants to leave. She's really mad, and 0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:17.600 she goes, listen, I had a lot to drink. I 0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:20.640 don't know what's up. Everything was fuzzy, and she's yelling 0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:23.880 I am not a victim, and Rollins and Benson are 0:34:23.880 --> 0:34:25.719 trying to convince her to speak up and figure out 0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:28.080 what happened, even if it's not the uber guy. And 0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:31.160 Kayla leaves since the uber guy is not pressing charges, 0:34:31.320 --> 0:34:34.320 and then the amazing hair detectives just watch her walk away, 0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:39.800 and then we cut to Careesy and he is filling 0:34:39.840 --> 0:34:42.319 in the squad that the cell phone records prove that 0:34:42.400 --> 0:34:44.319 the driver was talking to his wife the whole time. 0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:47.000 She got picked up at three point thirty nine am 0:34:47.120 --> 0:34:49.319 outside of a restaurant on the Lower east Side called 0:34:49.400 --> 0:34:52.560 Far Rockaway by Andrew So I love that. 0:34:52.560 --> 0:34:56.719 That reminds me of Kyle Richards businesses Alien two by 0:34:57.080 --> 0:34:57.719 Alien two. 0:34:57.840 --> 0:35:02.239 Yeah, yeah, I love it so much. So Cariese knows 0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:05.000 about this restaurant. It's a high priced seafood joint and 0:35:05.040 --> 0:35:06.800 he took a date there once and then someone's like, 0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:07.400 was it worth it? 0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:07.560 Oh? 0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:09.120 He spent like a few hundred bucks with someone. I 0:35:09.120 --> 0:35:11.000 forgot it was like, is it worth it? He goes 0:35:11.120 --> 0:35:14.720 worth every cet So I guess he had great sex 0:35:14.760 --> 0:35:20.560 after this, which is exciting. So Careese and Finn start 0:35:20.600 --> 0:35:23.560 asking the front of housewoman for some scoop and she 0:35:23.680 --> 0:35:24.960 says kitchen clothes. 0:35:24.719 --> 0:35:26.600 At one and I leave, so leave me alone. 0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:30.760 She says that Marco is a server and he's obsessed 0:35:31.040 --> 0:35:33.719 with Kayla, so go talk to him. And they talked 0:35:33.760 --> 0:35:35.799 to this like doughey, sweet man, I kind of have 0:35:35.840 --> 0:35:37.799 a crush on him, and he's really innocent and I 0:35:37.840 --> 0:35:38.279 love him. 0:35:38.760 --> 0:35:39.759 And he was. 0:35:39.719 --> 0:35:42.080 Like, whoa rape? And they go, we didn't say rape, 0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:43.839 why'd you say rape? And he goes, I know what 0:35:43.960 --> 0:35:47.960 SVU means? So I love that. Yeah, I love him. 0:35:48.080 --> 0:35:52.080 I'm like truly into this server, so I loved the interaction. 0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:55.279 And now he also says, he goes, I went home, 0:35:55.320 --> 0:35:58.200 and my building has cameras so you can check on 0:35:58.320 --> 0:36:01.040 my shit, so they can prove that he's innocent. So 0:36:01.040 --> 0:36:04.120 that's great. Kayla did work the after party, he tells them. 0:36:04.360 --> 0:36:07.600 So they go down to the private room to get 0:36:07.760 --> 0:36:10.680 more scoop. They talked to the sexy bartender and he 0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:14.319 gives us all of our sv bartending fantasy needs. He 0:36:14.480 --> 0:36:17.960 is wiping bottles, he is arranging bottles, he's carrying a box, 0:36:18.040 --> 0:36:22.040 he is doing the work, and he mentions like the 0:36:22.160 --> 0:36:25.400 producing execs. And they left around two thirty to forty five, 0:36:26.640 --> 0:36:29.320 and he last saw Kayla at three, so clearly you 0:36:29.400 --> 0:36:31.960 know there is some time that is unaccounted for what's 0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:34.160 going on. He said that she went down to the 0:36:34.160 --> 0:36:37.279 wine cellar to meet Andrew, the chef slash owner, and 0:36:37.360 --> 0:36:40.879 Cariese is of course like suspicious. So they head down 0:36:40.920 --> 0:36:43.319 there and he's babbling about wines and shipments. He has 0:36:43.360 --> 0:36:45.600 cocaine energy. If I've ever seen it, this man is 0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:46.360 on cocaine. 0:36:47.280 --> 0:36:47.400 Uh. 0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:51.000 This is coke at its finest. And he offers them 0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:53.440 a sip of wine and they when they reject it, 0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:55.600 he says, this is eight hundred dollars a bottle, and 0:36:55.640 --> 0:37:01.560 Finn goes, okay, I'll hit that. So so Finn's trying 0:37:01.600 --> 0:37:04.120 this eight hundred dollars bottle of wine and he says 0:37:04.120 --> 0:37:07.520 it tastes like warm apple juice, and the chef's like, ooh, 0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:08.120 apple notes. 0:37:08.120 --> 0:37:09.440 I'll put that in the description. 0:37:10.160 --> 0:37:12.520 But anyways, they're like, shut up, we don't care about 0:37:12.560 --> 0:37:13.080 these wines. 0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:16.080 Stop babbling about. We need you to focus. 0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:19.920 So he starts babbling again about how he loves cops 0:37:19.920 --> 0:37:21.200 and hates finance bros. 0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:23.720 And it's like, you need to stop talking. 0:37:24.320 --> 0:37:26.239 And then he starts talking about man As Chevitz and 0:37:26.280 --> 0:37:30.000 get filter fish, and it's like, go home, take a nap. 0:37:30.120 --> 0:37:31.440 This is you need a break. 0:37:31.480 --> 0:37:33.960 This is like fully giving me flashbacks to like every 0:37:34.040 --> 0:37:36.000 night talking to somebody that was too coked up. 0:37:35.880 --> 0:37:38.279 And you're like, okay, all right, I gotta go. 0:37:38.800 --> 0:37:40.880 Well, least now I can kind of tell when someone's 0:37:40.880 --> 0:37:42.919 on coke. Back in the day, I would just be like, wow, 0:37:42.960 --> 0:37:45.040 this person has great ideas and a lot of passion, 0:37:45.120 --> 0:37:47.680 you know, Like I wouldn't. I wouldn't be able to 0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:52.000 figure it out. So the detectives feel the Andrew in 0:37:52.000 --> 0:37:53.560 and they're like, okay, well, we believe that she was 0:37:53.600 --> 0:37:55.600 sexually assaulted here last night and you're the last person 0:37:55.600 --> 0:37:55.960 to see her. 0:37:56.000 --> 0:37:57.759 And he goes, excuse me. She's saying that, I what, 0:37:58.320 --> 0:37:58.800 and he's. 0:37:58.680 --> 0:38:00.880 Shocked by the news and he goes, yeah, we popped 0:38:00.880 --> 0:38:02.799 a vadal and I said, you know, I liked her 0:38:02.880 --> 0:38:05.560 ass and we had consensual sex. It's not even the 0:38:05.560 --> 0:38:10.000 first time we quote unquote screwed. And if she said anything, 0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:12.319 she's fucking lying. You know, it was hot and she 0:38:12.400 --> 0:38:15.000 wanted it. And it's like we've heard all this before, okay. 0:38:15.760 --> 0:38:18.320 And then this scene ends, which with what I feel 0:38:18.400 --> 0:38:21.480 is a commercial and I think the high pressure moment 0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:24.800 is that they have fucked before. And then Kyle marches 0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:28.160 into the precinct mad. She is pissed in a perfect 0:38:28.200 --> 0:38:31.680 fall outfit turtleneck okay, and she's like, you talk to Andrew, 0:38:31.760 --> 0:38:34.600 what the fuck? I can lose my job? And you 0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:37.120 know they did do some maloney action here, you know, 0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:37.600 back to. 0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:40.120 So well, it's also just like it it's more like 0:38:40.200 --> 0:38:43.359 cop fantasy, like there's no complaining with like there's no 0:38:43.440 --> 0:38:45.560 complainant at all, and they're like, we're still going to 0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:48.239 investigate this, Like there's absolutely no way in the real 0:38:48.280 --> 0:38:51.799 world cops go after alleged rape that happened where there's 0:38:51.840 --> 0:38:54.720 no victim is not saying that anything happened, Like no. 0:38:54.760 --> 0:38:56.720 And the thing is, I don't I mean, I'm sure 0:38:56.960 --> 0:38:59.320 it's in all towns. I've just like seen it mostly 0:38:59.320 --> 0:39:02.120 in New York. But like, businesses want to be friend 0:39:02.280 --> 0:39:05.520 police officers, right, because I've performed at some places where 0:39:05.520 --> 0:39:08.160 like the cops know that they can compee there, you know, 0:39:08.520 --> 0:39:11.239 and they're ca and then like if you're nicer to them, 0:39:11.280 --> 0:39:13.920 if there's an altercation at the like they come quicker, 0:39:14.040 --> 0:39:16.600 like or if you have people in there later then 0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:20.239 you're supposed to have people in there, or if you're not, 0:39:20.480 --> 0:39:23.520 you know, you're breaking some awning rule like whatever. 0:39:23.640 --> 0:39:25.960 Yeah, And I remember back when like smoking was illegal 0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:27.919 and some places still wanted to offer it. You could 0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:31.040 tell places that were in with the cops would be like, yeah, 0:39:31.080 --> 0:39:33.239 you can smoke, you know. Yeah. 0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:35.000 So it's like such a cap vibes. 0:39:35.040 --> 0:39:37.840 But I know businesses they want to be in with 0:39:37.920 --> 0:39:42.400 the cops, right, So it is weird. So to me, 0:39:43.560 --> 0:39:46.000 that adds on to your point of like these cops 0:39:46.040 --> 0:39:48.359 probably like go in there too, you know, like they 0:39:48.400 --> 0:39:50.960 get special treatment at those places. But this place seems 0:39:51.000 --> 0:39:54.919 pretty fancy. And then she says she makes six figures there. 0:39:55.480 --> 0:39:57.440 That's nice fine dining. 0:39:57.480 --> 0:39:59.759 I think if you're full time working fine dining yet 0:39:59.760 --> 0:40:02.480 you can do like extremely well, I guess. 0:40:02.200 --> 0:40:03.920 I know, but do you get time on It just 0:40:03.960 --> 0:40:06.400 seems you get like what Sundays and Mondays off. 0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:09.160 Or not really like yeah, probably, I don't know. 0:40:09.440 --> 0:40:11.840 It seems I've worked in fine dining for two days 0:40:11.960 --> 0:40:13.719 and I went, this isn't for me. 0:40:15.200 --> 0:40:15.720 So whatever. 0:40:15.800 --> 0:40:17.879 She goes, I didn't say anything, and they're like, yeah, 0:40:17.920 --> 0:40:20.000 but you know, don't you think he didn't And she goes, no, 0:40:20.080 --> 0:40:22.799 it's not like that, and she says, yeah, we fucked 0:40:22.840 --> 0:40:25.799 a Christmas party once. It was a mistake, but things 0:40:25.840 --> 0:40:29.160 aren't black and white, okay, you know last night or whatever. 0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:30.960 She goes, yeah, I said stop, but he didn't want to. 0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:33.080 So it's whatever. It's a restaurant. And they're like, it 0:40:33.080 --> 0:40:35.279 sounds like your boss raped you. And she's like, it's 0:40:35.320 --> 0:40:38.239 not rape unless I say it's rape. And do we 0:40:38.320 --> 0:40:39.560 agree or not with that statement? 0:40:40.040 --> 0:40:42.160 I don't know. Well, we'll do a poll. I don't know. 0:40:42.239 --> 0:40:45.040 I mean, this is a tough one because she really 0:40:45.120 --> 0:40:47.719 is acting like I mean I didn't you know, she's 0:40:47.760 --> 0:40:50.400 acting like it wasn't a big I've. 0:40:49.920 --> 0:40:53.239 Done it before. I don't know. Well, yeah, because it's 0:40:53.280 --> 0:40:55.640 the it's like, what is it worth it? 0:40:55.719 --> 0:40:59.440 Because you're once she once she says the sixth figure thing, 0:40:59.480 --> 0:41:01.200 It's like, oh, okay, yeah, because I got no an 0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:03.840 argument with someone about this where it's like, you know, 0:41:03.920 --> 0:41:07.560 guys are people that don't understand sexual assault or like 0:41:07.600 --> 0:41:09.600 abuse in any way. It's just like, yeah, just go 0:41:09.640 --> 0:41:11.560 to the tell someone. And it's like, but you don't 0:41:11.560 --> 0:41:13.719 know what someone's gonna lose. And sometimes it's just not 0:41:13.840 --> 0:41:17.520 worth it. It's not worth being shunned out of your job, 0:41:17.760 --> 0:41:20.680 you know. Unfortunately, it would be cool if people weren't 0:41:20.719 --> 0:41:22.280 shunned out of their jobs and fired. 0:41:22.320 --> 0:41:25.520 And like, yeah, there's so many reasons why women don't report, 0:41:25.600 --> 0:41:26.239 and you know. 0:41:26.239 --> 0:41:29.879 They're valid, and this episode I think really shows it great, 0:41:30.239 --> 0:41:32.799 like of all the reasons and we'll get more examples 0:41:32.840 --> 0:41:36.520 of like just different layers of what happens. But whatever, 0:41:36.600 --> 0:41:38.960 she's like an angry teen and she's like stay out 0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:42.040 of my life before you ruin it and she runs away. 0:41:42.440 --> 0:41:44.840 So then Stone comes in. I don't even know his 0:41:44.880 --> 0:41:46.400 first name. I don't really care about him. I know 0:41:46.520 --> 0:41:48.480 our listeners think he's hot. I think he's like a 0:41:48.520 --> 0:41:49.600 fucking boring idiot. 0:41:51.040 --> 0:41:52.680 Do you like him? What's the name? Peter? 0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:57.040 I think he's like classically kenned All hot, I guess, 0:41:57.080 --> 0:41:59.080 but I'm not my type in any way. 0:41:59.600 --> 0:42:01.880 I just don't care if you like. 0:42:02.040 --> 0:42:04.759 I wish he went down on Marishka one episode then 0:42:04.800 --> 0:42:09.759 I would have liked him more, because they. 0:42:09.760 --> 0:42:10.600 Do have a vibe. 0:42:11.280 --> 0:42:14.279 Yeah, every hot guy of a certain age that gets 0:42:14.280 --> 0:42:15.799 on the show, you think, oh, is this. 0:42:15.760 --> 0:42:17.640 Gonna be the guy? Is he gonna be the one 0:42:17.680 --> 0:42:19.520 for Mari? Like, I mean, you just think that. 0:42:21.360 --> 0:42:26.120 So Carisie says, listen, this guy has no priors. But 0:42:26.200 --> 0:42:28.560 he shows up in three sixty ones, which is like 0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:31.239 probably the name of some paperwork. So there's been three 0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:34.040 separate women that have had complaints about him that work 0:42:34.200 --> 0:42:36.719 in his Brooklyn location at the restaurant. So they go 0:42:36.880 --> 0:42:39.480 talk to the other three women and they do the 0:42:39.520 --> 0:42:42.000 thing where they like splice all three women together in 0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:45.640 one long confession. So there's a bartender. She goes, yeah, 0:42:45.680 --> 0:42:47.480 after hours, I served him and his buddy and then 0:42:47.520 --> 0:42:51.000 it's like brunette bob smoking cigarette outside girl and she's like, yeah, 0:42:51.040 --> 0:42:52.960 one night he just plants went on me and I 0:42:53.080 --> 0:42:55.240 was blacked out, so I just kind of let it happen. 0:42:56.120 --> 0:42:58.080 They turned him down, but that's the boss. 0:42:58.120 --> 0:42:58.759 What do you do? 0:42:58.880 --> 0:43:01.680 He said, don't you want that motion? So they got 0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:04.319 they walked over. He tossed her around like a rag doll. 0:43:04.400 --> 0:43:06.479 He pulled up the skirt of another girl. She tried 0:43:06.480 --> 0:43:09.760 to fight him, and then YadA, YadA YadA, they're connect 0:43:09.800 --> 0:43:13.600 and then they finally find the connection, and the connection 0:43:13.719 --> 0:43:15.680 is he kept all of their underwear, so he took 0:43:15.719 --> 0:43:19.080 all of their panties. So one the girl gets mad 0:43:19.640 --> 0:43:22.520 and she's like what the fuck, Like I've been banned 0:43:22.520 --> 0:43:26.160 from all, Like he blacklisted me from everything. I'm working 0:43:26.160 --> 0:43:27.840 at this dive bar and he's out there and he 0:43:27.880 --> 0:43:30.239 continues to do whatever he wants in assaulting women like 0:43:30.320 --> 0:43:30.840 no boyo. 0:43:31.480 --> 0:43:33.600 So then Careese and Finn. 0:43:33.600 --> 0:43:35.880 And Stone are discussing the case and how it's Brooklyn, 0:43:36.080 --> 0:43:38.320 so like, what's that going on? And if it was Manhattan, 0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:40.680 they would have gotten the guy and all three cases 0:43:40.719 --> 0:43:43.880 have one DA in common, Chris Hodgkins. So it's like, okay, 0:43:43.960 --> 0:43:48.600 what's going on? Like okay, clue, But this is a 0:43:48.600 --> 0:43:50.840 wonder kid and he's giant in the Me too movement. 0:43:50.920 --> 0:43:53.759 He runs a victim advocacy group and he wants to 0:43:53.760 --> 0:43:55.640 climb up the political ladder and is. 0:43:55.560 --> 0:43:57.320 Like really on victim's side. 0:43:57.440 --> 0:44:00.400 So they have to go find Chris, and they walking 0:44:00.480 --> 0:44:03.640 on him as he's in court putting away a pedophile. 0:44:03.200 --> 0:44:03.840 No mercy. 0:44:04.480 --> 0:44:06.600 So we love this guy, So like, why did he 0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:09.239 not prosecute these three cases? So Stone talks to him, 0:44:09.560 --> 0:44:13.000 and this guy Chris knows Peter's father whatever, YadA YadA, 0:44:13.560 --> 0:44:16.200 man chats, so he brings up Andrew and why he 0:44:16.239 --> 0:44:20.400 didn't prosecute and basically Chris says that like all the issues, 0:44:20.440 --> 0:44:23.480 but they weren't perfect victims, but they never are, but 0:44:23.560 --> 0:44:25.480 he was just like he found holes in all of 0:44:25.520 --> 0:44:27.080 them and didn't really think they would be good on 0:44:27.120 --> 0:44:29.239 the stand. And he's not going to prosecute a case 0:44:29.280 --> 0:44:32.080 he can't win, but he says, I will help in 0:44:32.120 --> 0:44:35.120 any way possible if you need any help on this case. 0:44:35.640 --> 0:44:38.600 Stone is suspicious Benson and him are working late, and 0:44:38.680 --> 0:44:40.880 Benson is like, it's just shocking. He wouldn't do this. 0:44:41.000 --> 0:44:44.520 It doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense, like he 0:44:44.680 --> 0:44:46.799 does everything like there's got to be more to it. 0:44:47.200 --> 0:44:49.120 And then they go, we gotta get Kayla. Like if 0:44:49.120 --> 0:44:51.080 we get Kayla, we can get this job. So they 0:44:51.080 --> 0:44:54.760 go find Kayla. They're like, there's more victims. She doesn't 0:44:54.760 --> 0:44:56.879 want to. They're having a back and forth, and then 0:44:57.080 --> 0:44:59.520 we know we knew what was gonna happen before it happened. 0:45:00.160 --> 0:45:02.399 Bring up the panties. They go, well, don't you want 0:45:02.400 --> 0:45:04.680 your panties back or some stupid line, and she goes, 0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:07.000 how do you know about that? So now like she 0:45:07.080 --> 0:45:09.600 gets it, she gets the power, and she is just like, 0:45:09.640 --> 0:45:12.919 oh fuck, he's gonna keep raping women. And so then 0:45:13.120 --> 0:45:14.960 you know, they keep doing this and he doesn't really 0:45:14.960 --> 0:45:16.800 want to and she and he's like, take your power. 0:45:16.920 --> 0:45:17.560 She goes, I don't know. 0:45:17.600 --> 0:45:19.399 And then so now he brings in the real big 0:45:19.400 --> 0:45:21.960 guns because he wants her to take the stand so bad. 0:45:21.960 --> 0:45:25.719 So he brings up his murdered sister. So now Kayla's like, 0:45:25.760 --> 0:45:27.920 oh great, bringing up your dead sister. 0:45:29.560 --> 0:45:31.920 It really kind of has like nothing to do with anything, 0:45:32.000 --> 0:45:33.360 but okay, it's a stretch. 0:45:33.560 --> 0:45:33.799 Yeah. 0:45:33.800 --> 0:45:35.839 And then this is more examples of things we don't 0:45:35.880 --> 0:45:38.239 think about of what victims lose. She's like, all my 0:45:38.320 --> 0:45:40.960 friends work at that restaurant. It is my full social life. 0:45:41.000 --> 0:45:43.319 Like what am I gonna do? It's blowing up my 0:45:43.400 --> 0:45:46.200 whole life, and we don't think about that either, like 0:45:46.400 --> 0:45:49.279 oh fuck, suddenly at the office everyone could turn against you, 0:45:49.400 --> 0:45:52.399 or you get or or you Yeah, your social life 0:45:52.440 --> 0:45:56.319 can also get fucked up outside of money, so is. 0:45:56.239 --> 0:45:56.640 It worth it? 0:45:56.680 --> 0:45:59.560 But then she finally is like, okay, okay, I'll do it, 0:45:59.600 --> 0:46:02.200 but do me a favor. Send the cops in tomorrow 0:46:02.239 --> 0:46:04.200 during my shift. I want to see him go down. 0:46:04.480 --> 0:46:06.000 So that was a quick one eighty. 0:46:06.080 --> 0:46:10.879 Things escated quickly from like no, no, no, it's like, okay, yeah, he. 0:46:10.840 --> 0:46:11.960 Took my underwhere he's agreed. 0:46:12.040 --> 0:46:15.880 Yeah, so they run in to arrest him. Carriese has 0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:19.040 a really sweet smirk on his face. The front of 0:46:19.120 --> 0:46:22.360 house manager like swips her head and stares down Kayla. 0:46:22.800 --> 0:46:26.520 Carisy arrests the Jewish chef in front of everybody, and 0:46:26.600 --> 0:46:29.879 he says, ungrateful, bitch, you're fired. As he's out of there, 0:46:30.160 --> 0:46:33.279 he pleads not guilty. Obviously, bail is one million. So 0:46:33.360 --> 0:46:36.600 this judge is Edward Cofax. He's been in five episodes. 0:46:36.960 --> 0:46:38.960 You might remember him from being the leader of a 0:46:39.000 --> 0:46:41.880 sex trafficking ring and murdering a sex worker. 0:46:42.040 --> 0:46:42.600 You remember that. 0:46:43.200 --> 0:46:47.040 Oh yeah, he's like the sex ring guy, you know. 0:46:47.280 --> 0:46:49.839 So anyway, there's one hundred and thirty five credits. He's 0:46:49.880 --> 0:46:52.960 a real working man. He's been in Prime, which is 0:46:53.000 --> 0:46:54.960 one of my favorite movies of all time. He's been 0:46:54.960 --> 0:46:58.560 an original recipe, Criminal Intent, The Devil Wears Prada. He's 0:46:58.600 --> 0:47:01.200 like an editor, and he's a I hurt huckuppies. So yeah, 0:47:01.239 --> 0:47:04.160 he's been working. He was in Big Ghostbusters. I don't 0:47:04.200 --> 0:47:05.200 care about those movies. 0:47:05.239 --> 0:47:08.280 Maybe you do. Those seem like big ones. 0:47:08.360 --> 0:47:11.040 But yeah, he's just recognizable, and I thought I would 0:47:11.080 --> 0:47:13.600 give him a little shout out because our episodes are 0:47:13.600 --> 0:47:18.040 not long enough. Okay, So they go they go into 0:47:18.080 --> 0:47:21.239 chambers to talk about whether the other three victims can 0:47:21.239 --> 0:47:23.160 take the stand, and of course the guy that's like 0:47:24.280 --> 0:47:27.359 in charge of sex trafficking rings is not gonna allow this. 0:47:27.760 --> 0:47:30.399 And the defense attorney here is Regina Carter and she's 0:47:30.440 --> 0:47:33.239 been in two episodes as her and then as a 0:47:33.280 --> 0:47:37.080 different character in another episode called Undercover Mother, and her 0:47:37.120 --> 0:47:40.560 real name is Amanda Warner and she is working, busy, 0:47:40.680 --> 0:47:42.120 blessed like she is. 0:47:42.719 --> 0:47:45.359 I think she's about to really hugely blow up. 0:47:45.400 --> 0:47:48.640 She's in the new show Dickenson, that's like her current ah, 0:47:48.680 --> 0:47:54.600 her current big show. So they're arguing and the judge says, no, 0:47:54.920 --> 0:47:58.000 you can't, you can't use them. So Stone and Benson 0:47:58.040 --> 0:48:01.600 are doing a walk and talk and again she's like, motherfucker. 0:48:02.239 --> 0:48:05.120 Chris Hodgkins like you have to look it up, Like 0:48:05.560 --> 0:48:06.400 why would he do this? 0:48:06.440 --> 0:48:07.520 It's not his reputation. 0:48:07.640 --> 0:48:10.640 He loves going after sexual abusers, like yeah, you just 0:48:10.680 --> 0:48:13.319 fucking listen. And it is like listen to her because 0:48:13.320 --> 0:48:15.000 he made a comment earlier in the episode of like. 0:48:14.960 --> 0:48:16.240 You know, I learned from the best. 0:48:16.800 --> 0:48:17.000 You know. 0:48:17.000 --> 0:48:18.840 I don't know why he's not just doing exactly what 0:48:18.880 --> 0:48:21.280 she said immediately as she said it, but he's gonna 0:48:21.280 --> 0:48:24.520 finally like go into it. So he goes to some 0:48:24.560 --> 0:48:27.040 bar to confront Chris. So Stone meets at a bar. 0:48:27.120 --> 0:48:30.560 They have a back and forth. Oh and Chris knows 0:48:30.640 --> 0:48:34.040 Peter Stone from like his sport day or the bartender. 0:48:34.040 --> 0:48:34.960 Oh yeah, the bartender. 0:48:35.719 --> 0:48:38.680 No, no, Stone used to play professional baseball before he 0:48:38.719 --> 0:48:43.000 became an Ada. That's so funny. I forget about that. Yeah, 0:48:43.040 --> 0:48:46.200 did he get an injured or I guess. So they 0:48:46.280 --> 0:48:48.000 like talk about it all the fucking time. 0:48:48.200 --> 0:48:49.719 Well that's how much I fucking hate him. 0:48:51.840 --> 0:48:54.879 So whatever, So they talk about his like baseball time, 0:48:54.920 --> 0:48:55.920 and then the bartender with. 0:48:55.920 --> 0:48:58.120 A sexy, sexy Irish accent. 0:48:58.239 --> 0:49:00.840 Gives the puzzle piece that they need to like fill 0:49:00.920 --> 0:49:05.160 up the case and basically, Chris played sports in East 0:49:05.239 --> 0:49:12.279 rockawaym So yeah, so this is amazing that we find 0:49:12.280 --> 0:49:15.359 out this evidence. Okay, they're both for East Rockaway. They 0:49:15.680 --> 0:49:20.520 lived around the corner from each other and our best friends. 0:49:20.760 --> 0:49:23.840 So case closed, Jake, and give another half hour of 0:49:23.840 --> 0:49:24.440 this episode. 0:49:24.560 --> 0:49:26.400 But this is huge. 0:49:26.480 --> 0:49:27.880 So a man is being an idiot being like but 0:49:27.960 --> 0:49:30.480 she he loves protecting victims and Finns like, grow up, 0:49:30.520 --> 0:49:32.920 you dumb bitch. Come on, we work at su like 0:49:33.040 --> 0:49:35.400 so many quote unquote good people attack people. 0:49:36.200 --> 0:49:36.759 And then but. 0:49:36.760 --> 0:49:39.160 Amanda's not all idiot, and she brings up a great point. 0:49:39.239 --> 0:49:42.080 She goes, why would the Sky risk his whole political 0:49:42.200 --> 0:49:45.000 career in life on this guy? Like there has to 0:49:45.000 --> 0:49:46.560 be more to the case. There has to be more 0:49:46.600 --> 0:49:49.640 and finigrees, so they need to find out what's next. 0:49:49.640 --> 0:49:52.000 So they start going through all the finances. So they 0:49:52.040 --> 0:49:55.200 start doing finances, and you know, I love when they 0:49:55.239 --> 0:49:58.839 like work late and there's rappers and plates around and 0:49:58.880 --> 0:50:01.600 papers and messy and they're trying to crack the case. 0:50:01.640 --> 0:50:02.080 I love that. 0:50:02.560 --> 0:50:05.120 And so in his bank account, he's making like two 0:50:05.200 --> 0:50:08.400 to three million a year. And then Ice make some 0:50:08.480 --> 0:50:11.359 joke about a cardiologist. I don't even get the joke. 0:50:11.400 --> 0:50:13.600 It's obviously a burn against Amanda, but I was like, 0:50:13.640 --> 0:50:14.120 I don't. 0:50:13.920 --> 0:50:17.799 Get this because her second kid, the baby daddy, is 0:50:18.200 --> 0:50:19.160 a cardiologist. 0:50:19.280 --> 0:50:20.720 Yeah, but who cares? What is the burn? 0:50:20.800 --> 0:50:23.600 I don't get it, Like, I think he's just kind 0:50:23.640 --> 0:50:25.880 of like, I know, you're dating a cardiolo. 0:50:25.960 --> 0:50:26.279 I don't know. 0:50:26.320 --> 0:50:27.840 It's like one of those things where like she's so 0:50:27.920 --> 0:50:30.000 private and he's like, I know something I don't know. 0:50:30.120 --> 0:50:32.280 I really don't know it. But that's that's the point. 0:50:32.360 --> 0:50:34.680 I think. Yeah, I just I didn't really get it. 0:50:34.880 --> 0:50:37.880 Yeah, and then I suggest the most fin thing in 0:50:37.920 --> 0:50:39.920 the world, which is let's just go home and get 0:50:39.920 --> 0:50:44.160 six hours of sleep with So then we cut to 0:50:44.239 --> 0:50:47.840 a dark stairwell moment where and you're not supposed to 0:50:47.960 --> 0:50:50.400 really know what's happening, and there's like green lights and 0:50:50.440 --> 0:50:51.000 it's dark. 0:50:51.520 --> 0:50:55.360 Very Watergate is that it water you have very deep throat. 0:50:56.000 --> 0:50:59.440 So Benson's in the stairwell and she's talking to someone 0:50:59.480 --> 0:51:01.799 about something. I can't really get what's going on, but 0:51:01.840 --> 0:51:05.759 I hear when something hit and tomorrow morning, so it's like, 0:51:05.800 --> 0:51:08.000 what's going on? So then we cut back to the 0:51:08.040 --> 0:51:10.640 station and Finn is like, Hey, Amanda, I want to 0:51:10.640 --> 0:51:13.480 share the cinnamon raisin bagel. And you know I love food, 0:51:13.560 --> 0:51:16.160 so I like that. And he also apologizes for like 0:51:16.200 --> 0:51:19.839 busting her chops the night before. So then it's break 0:51:19.880 --> 0:51:22.400 time on that and Careesy runs in with the paper 0:51:22.760 --> 0:51:24.880 and the cover of the paper is the case of 0:51:24.920 --> 0:51:27.760 the two men's photos, and somebody leaked it to the press, 0:51:27.800 --> 0:51:29.759 So now we know what the stairwell was. And I 0:51:29.760 --> 0:51:32.919 think Benson sold it to a journalist, which that's fucked up, right, 0:51:33.920 --> 0:51:34.799 I mean I. 0:51:34.760 --> 0:51:37.040 Think she kind of Benson would only do that if 0:51:37.040 --> 0:51:39.319 she thought, like strategically she needed to do it, Like 0:51:39.360 --> 0:51:41.759 they're gonna know it's very me too, Like they know 0:51:41.840 --> 0:51:43.960 that they need to gather many women in order to 0:51:43.960 --> 0:51:44.920 make a case like this. 0:51:45.120 --> 0:51:48.400 You know, you're so smart. Yeah, that totally makes sense. 0:51:48.800 --> 0:51:51.600 So a woman walks in while they're doing this and 0:51:51.640 --> 0:51:53.680 she wants to report a sex crime and she has 0:51:53.719 --> 0:51:55.920 the newspapers. They go, oh, you got a story about Andrew, 0:51:55.960 --> 0:52:01.320 and she goes, no. The other guy Chris. So that's, 0:52:01.640 --> 0:52:05.000 you know, a twist, a twist. So now Benson sits 0:52:05.040 --> 0:52:08.400 down with the woman. Her name is Bethany Fisher and 0:52:08.480 --> 0:52:12.160 played by actress Sarah bus So. This happened when she 0:52:12.239 --> 0:52:14.759 was fifteen at a house party and kids from far 0:52:14.840 --> 0:52:17.719 Rockaway came to this party. There's about ten or twelve 0:52:17.760 --> 0:52:21.040 of them, and one of the boys brought tequila and 0:52:21.120 --> 0:52:23.160 she ended up in the bedroom with Chris and one 0:52:23.160 --> 0:52:25.080 of his friends. Maybe it was Andrew, but she can't 0:52:25.280 --> 0:52:28.200 really remember his name. Chris pushed her onto the floor, 0:52:28.320 --> 0:52:30.359 got on top of her, pinned her down, and put 0:52:30.400 --> 0:52:32.600 his hand down her pants, and the other guy was 0:52:32.600 --> 0:52:36.200 like cheerleading and saying, go for it, dude. She said 0:52:36.239 --> 0:52:39.160 she was screaming, but like, get off of me, get 0:52:39.160 --> 0:52:41.279 off of me. But then he covered her mouth and 0:52:41.360 --> 0:52:44.480 she was crying. And she has this is like amazing performance. 0:52:44.480 --> 0:52:49.000 She's a really great talented actress, communicating very well, and 0:52:49.160 --> 0:52:52.120 she continues that he tried to penetrate her, but she 0:52:52.200 --> 0:52:54.440 was able to get free and she ran away, and 0:52:54.480 --> 0:52:57.000 they asked did she'd tell anyone ever? And she did 0:52:57.040 --> 0:53:00.480 tell a therapist wait like years years later, who encouraged 0:53:00.480 --> 0:53:03.839 her to tell her husband, who she did reveal this 0:53:03.960 --> 0:53:07.320 too the previous year. So also her friend Emily was 0:53:07.360 --> 0:53:09.719 at the party, and Emily could see that she was 0:53:09.840 --> 0:53:12.320 very upset, but she didn't tell her what happened. 0:53:12.640 --> 0:53:13.879 So they find Emily. 0:53:13.560 --> 0:53:15.920 And they're talking to her asking about the parties, and 0:53:16.000 --> 0:53:20.080 she's like, oh, and then it hits her and she goes, oh, 0:53:20.560 --> 0:53:24.560 that party, So that's pointed like, obviously something happened if 0:53:24.640 --> 0:53:25.399 it clicks to her. 0:53:25.680 --> 0:53:27.759 She said it was a big party, thirty to forty kids. 0:53:27.800 --> 0:53:29.560 There was a keg and Bethany came out of the 0:53:29.560 --> 0:53:31.799 bedroom and said we need to leave right away. She 0:53:31.920 --> 0:53:34.799 wasn't into talking, but they knew something bad happened, and 0:53:34.840 --> 0:53:36.719 she goes, I don't know what happened in that bedroom. 0:53:37.160 --> 0:53:39.319 There was two boys from high school and she names 0:53:39.360 --> 0:53:43.640 them Chrishajens and Andrew Lebowitz, and she knew something terrible happened, 0:53:43.680 --> 0:53:45.840 but again would not say anything, and she was shaking, 0:53:45.920 --> 0:53:48.120 and she was just telling her friend Emily, like, find 0:53:48.120 --> 0:53:51.000 me a cap. Bethany begged her not to say anything, 0:53:51.040 --> 0:53:54.640 and Emily was fifteen years old and she listened, and Chris, 0:53:54.680 --> 0:53:57.120 you know she's not a stabler. And Chris is now 0:53:57.280 --> 0:54:00.640 entering an interrogation room, yelling and screaming how he's over 0:54:00.680 --> 0:54:02.600 this and like what the fuck? So he thinks this 0:54:02.640 --> 0:54:04.880 is about Andrew and he's annoyed at all this, and 0:54:04.920 --> 0:54:06.719 they let him know, no, it's actually a girl that 0:54:06.760 --> 0:54:09.000 you raped in high school. And in the middle of 0:54:09.120 --> 0:54:12.560 say I love these middle of I love the I 0:54:12.600 --> 0:54:15.120 love the facial expressions and the acting of like when 0:54:15.320 --> 0:54:18.479 you see someone realize something mid sentence, like with Emi 0:54:18.760 --> 0:54:21.240 and this guy, like, I don't know why these scenes. 0:54:22.320 --> 0:54:24.440 I don't know if it's excite me, but I'm into it. 0:54:25.160 --> 0:54:26.520 So in the middle of saying I have no idea 0:54:26.560 --> 0:54:28.440 what you're talking about, he realizes what's up. 0:54:29.280 --> 0:54:31.160 And and by the way. 0:54:30.960 --> 0:54:34.920 The guy who's playing Chris Hodgens is Jacob Ritz and 0:54:35.000 --> 0:54:38.920 he was in Sex in the City and you remember 0:54:38.960 --> 0:54:43.319 this episode. He was in the episode What Comes Around 0:54:43.400 --> 0:54:47.320 Goes around. It's one of your favorites. So when Samantha 0:54:47.400 --> 0:54:50.120 Jones goes to an NYU dorm party to meet a 0:54:50.120 --> 0:54:53.880 guy named Samantha sam Jones, this is him. He loses 0:54:53.880 --> 0:54:57.160 his virginity to Samantha Jones and then falls obsessed in 0:54:57.160 --> 0:55:01.319 love with her. But yeah, so he played this like 0:55:01.480 --> 0:55:05.160 dorky guy and he's pretty hot in this episode outside 0:55:05.160 --> 0:55:06.640 of his personality and crimes. 0:55:06.760 --> 0:55:08.640 So he grew into his face. 0:55:08.800 --> 0:55:14.360 And he's from Connecticut, Kara, Ooh maybe Weston, Weston, Connecticut. 0:55:14.160 --> 0:55:16.160 Which is right in your Westport, where my brother lives 0:55:16.320 --> 0:55:18.040 where we're going for the holidays. 0:55:19.120 --> 0:55:20.560 Uh, he should heat that pool up. 0:55:21.800 --> 0:55:27.640 Oh in December, we'll see. And Benson makes it clear 0:55:27.680 --> 0:55:30.799 that like she saw him realize what happened, Like, you're 0:55:30.840 --> 0:55:31.719 not getting out of this. 0:55:32.520 --> 0:55:34.839 So it was a party fifteen years ago. He says 0:55:34.880 --> 0:55:38.200 he didn't touch the girl, but uh, Andrew did, and Benson. 0:55:37.880 --> 0:55:38.880 Goes, that was fast. 0:55:39.000 --> 0:55:41.920 You know, you've been protecting this guy for fucking decades 0:55:41.960 --> 0:55:44.799 and you just turn on him so quick. Like my 0:55:44.880 --> 0:55:46.319 mom says, how you do one thing is how you 0:55:46.360 --> 0:55:48.600 do everything. You know, bad people are not going to 0:55:48.640 --> 0:55:51.880 be great loyal friends. Okay, so he says it was 0:55:51.920 --> 0:55:55.360 all Andrew and that he pushed Andrew off the girl, 0:55:55.640 --> 0:55:59.520 and they're like, okay, get off this, like what like, 0:55:59.640 --> 0:56:00.920 oh me the hero? 0:56:01.120 --> 0:56:01.319 You know. 0:56:01.360 --> 0:56:02.640 They they're like shut up. 0:56:03.120 --> 0:56:06.080 But he takes credit how he helped change sexual assault 0:56:06.160 --> 0:56:08.240 vibes from back in the day and how things are different, 0:56:08.280 --> 0:56:09.759 and they go, no, you're a hypocrite and you're a 0:56:09.760 --> 0:56:12.360 fucking rapist, like that's why you're doing all this, and 0:56:12.440 --> 0:56:16.439 Chris says that it's laughable, but it's like, this isn't 0:56:16.440 --> 0:56:18.719 funny at all. I don't get it, all right, whatever, 0:56:19.520 --> 0:56:22.719 and he also it's like, also, like, if you know 0:56:22.760 --> 0:56:24.680 that Andrew has been doing this forever, why didn't you 0:56:24.719 --> 0:56:25.440 prosecute him? 0:56:25.440 --> 0:56:26.759 Like you care so much about. 0:56:26.520 --> 0:56:30.239 Victims and you know that he did this, and why 0:56:30.239 --> 0:56:32.080 didn't you charge any of the other women? 0:56:32.520 --> 0:56:34.040 And then Chris goes, are you charging me? 0:56:34.200 --> 0:56:36.239 And they say no, but you better make this right 0:56:36.280 --> 0:56:39.120 and he agrees to do whatever Benson says, because he 0:56:39.200 --> 0:56:43.160 refuses to let some liar girl ruin his reputation. So 0:56:43.360 --> 0:56:46.320 what the plan we can assume is a wire recording situation, 0:56:46.560 --> 0:56:49.440 which I love. I will never be upset about a 0:56:49.520 --> 0:56:51.400 hidden wire and I hope one day I get to 0:56:51.440 --> 0:56:53.520 be in a situation where I get to where a 0:56:53.600 --> 0:56:56.920 hidden wire. It's so it's the two of the rape 0:56:56.920 --> 0:57:00.080 men and they're chatting and eating in a giant empty 0:57:00.320 --> 0:57:03.680 like in the East Rockaway restaurant, and he's admitting she 0:57:03.760 --> 0:57:06.160 put up a fight but that just spiced things up. 0:57:06.480 --> 0:57:09.040 And the squad's in the van listening, and he tells Chris, 0:57:09.080 --> 0:57:10.920 you're playing with fire. You need to chill out, and 0:57:10.960 --> 0:57:12.759 he goes, yeah, but you know you always put my 0:57:12.800 --> 0:57:15.279 fires out, and I think that's a great writing. So 0:57:15.400 --> 0:57:18.720 Chris says, listen, I'm done. Stone came to see me. 0:57:18.840 --> 0:57:21.200 I saved your ass again, but I'm packed. I'm done. 0:57:21.240 --> 0:57:25.120 I'm not doing this. I'm running for office. And he says, 0:57:25.240 --> 0:57:29.200 you know, I don't want to get judge kevanad and 0:57:29.200 --> 0:57:31.960 Andrew X confused, and he said, you know, the thing 0:57:32.000 --> 0:57:34.560 from the high school party. So then they fight back 0:57:34.600 --> 0:57:37.160 and forth over who the rapist is and it's like, 0:57:38.360 --> 0:57:40.760 but the opposite isn't good either, Like that's the thing. 0:57:40.800 --> 0:57:43.480 It's like, Okay, maybe you didn't actively rape, but that 0:57:43.560 --> 0:57:44.320 means you did. 0:57:44.200 --> 0:57:47.800 Just watch your friend cheerlead. Yeah. 0:57:47.880 --> 0:57:50.840 So it's also like, you're not in the clear if 0:57:50.880 --> 0:57:54.560 you weren't, but you're still a rape adjacent character. But 0:57:54.600 --> 0:57:57.480 they're going back and forth over who did it, and 0:57:57.520 --> 0:58:01.200 then Andrew says, oh, you must have. I've been confused 0:58:01.240 --> 0:58:02.880 with one of the other nights and one of the 0:58:02.920 --> 0:58:03.560 other girls. 0:58:03.600 --> 0:58:05.760 We did this too, but not that night that was 0:58:05.880 --> 0:58:07.520 just you so already. 0:58:07.600 --> 0:58:09.840 Now we have a confession that they did this all 0:58:09.840 --> 0:58:13.560 over town at all parties, and how many high school 0:58:13.560 --> 0:58:16.800 age girls' lives have been ruined honestly thinking about it, 0:58:16.960 --> 0:58:19.160 And that's why I think about Kavin and all these motherfuckers. 0:58:19.160 --> 0:58:21.640 It's like, it doesn't stop if you get away within 0:58:21.760 --> 0:58:25.720 high school? Why would you stop? And this this episode 0:58:25.800 --> 0:58:29.040 is really well written. It's like, I really I liked 0:58:29.040 --> 0:58:31.200 a lot of the subtle moments and stuff, but just 0:58:31.240 --> 0:58:33.880 being able to in one sentence and discapsulate like, oh yeah, 0:58:33.880 --> 0:58:34.800 we do this all the time. 0:58:34.880 --> 0:58:37.080 I just I don't know, it's the show is so good. 0:58:38.560 --> 0:58:41.560 The squad comes in to arrest them both and Benson 0:58:41.600 --> 0:58:45.160 calls Andrew his rape partner, Coriesie tells him about the wire, 0:58:45.200 --> 0:58:48.680 and then Chris is like, you are next to stone. 0:58:48.880 --> 0:58:49.520 Done. Done. 0:58:49.800 --> 0:58:54.840 They take them both away, and you know, obviously Andrew's upset. 0:58:55.280 --> 0:58:58.480 So Benson and Rollins have an end of shift chat 0:58:58.520 --> 0:59:02.200 and Rollins is like in painful being pregnant and starts 0:59:02.200 --> 0:59:04.280 talking about her old waitress days and how she's not 0:59:04.640 --> 0:59:07.280 like surprised by all the grab ass. She says, someone 0:59:07.360 --> 0:59:10.400 tried that, like a customer tried to assault her and 0:59:10.440 --> 0:59:13.040 she punched him in the face. And Kayla walks in, 0:59:13.520 --> 0:59:15.919 and since there's a new DA in Brooklyn, they tell 0:59:15.920 --> 0:59:19.280 her that he's gonna open all the old cases against Andrew. Yay, 0:59:19.800 --> 0:59:22.760 And she brought them a present. She brought them some 0:59:22.800 --> 0:59:25.520 fancy food from a new restaurant that she's employed at. 0:59:25.560 --> 0:59:28.520 So I'm glad she got another job. And they're hoping that, 0:59:28.680 --> 0:59:32.200 you know, these people will rotten jail forever, so that's good. 0:59:32.240 --> 0:59:34.560 We just hope the prosecutor does a good job. I 0:59:34.640 --> 0:59:39.280 smell a spin off Brooklyn Crimes maybe. And then it's 0:59:39.360 --> 0:59:41.200 just the end of credits, and it's kind of like 0:59:41.240 --> 0:59:44.120 a lackluster ending with I don't care for this ending 0:59:44.400 --> 0:59:50.320 at all. Yeah, but that's dick Wolf, baby, but dick Wolf, 0:59:52.120 --> 0:59:54.920 and I was loving the writing the whole time, and 0:59:55.000 --> 0:59:58.320 I know they usually end with someone looking into the distance, 0:59:58.360 --> 1:00:00.120 but there's like menie, I don't know. I didn't care 1:00:00.160 --> 1:00:03.800 for this ending. I thought it was boring, but great episode. 1:00:04.160 --> 1:00:08.160 And I can't wait to hear about the crimes because it's. 1:00:08.360 --> 1:00:09.880 You've heard of them, but I think I'm gonna give 1:00:09.880 --> 1:00:10.880 you some details. 1:00:11.160 --> 1:00:15.160 Yeah, yeah, like it's yeah, I'm excited to learn more 1:00:15.200 --> 1:00:18.400 about these cases that did kind of rock all of 1:00:18.400 --> 1:00:22.240 our world's current like recently in our memories. 1:00:22.320 --> 1:00:24.240 So stay tuned for that. 1:00:37.400 --> 1:00:43.920 Okay, So let's see this episode aired November eighth of 1:00:44.000 --> 1:00:46.560 twenty eighteen, a year earlier, is when a lot of 1:00:46.560 --> 1:00:48.840 the me too stuff blew up. The Harvey Weinstein stuf 1:00:48.880 --> 1:00:51.120 blew up in twenty seventeen, just for context, But then 1:00:51.160 --> 1:00:55.720 in twenty eighteen, right before midterm elections, was when we 1:00:55.800 --> 1:00:58.840 had all of the Rett Kavanaugh stuff. 1:00:58.840 --> 1:00:59.640 So I'm gonna go into a. 1:00:59.640 --> 1:01:02.480 Couple of different cases that I think this episode draws from. 1:01:02.560 --> 1:01:06.400 One being, of course, b At Cavanaugh and Mark Judge. 1:01:06.480 --> 1:01:09.280 I didn't know a lot about Mark Judge and never 1:01:09.320 --> 1:01:11.320 heard of him. Well, he's a huge part of the 1:01:11.360 --> 1:01:12.680 Kavanaugh case. And it's crazy. 1:01:12.680 --> 1:01:14.640 I think we were all directing our hatred at Cavanaugh, 1:01:14.640 --> 1:01:16.520 but this guy was is part of it, and that's 1:01:16.520 --> 1:01:20.360 who they draw on in this episode. So the brief 1:01:20.400 --> 1:01:24.120 recap of Cavanaugh is that in twenty July of twenty eighteen, 1:01:24.160 --> 1:01:27.160 Trump nominated him to the Supreme Court. That same month, 1:01:27.200 --> 1:01:30.600 a woman named Christine Blasi Ford, who was a professor 1:01:30.600 --> 1:01:33.920 in California, wrote a letter to our senator here in California, 1:01:34.000 --> 1:01:38.160 Diane Feinstein, and accused Kavanaugh of sexual assault when they 1:01:38.160 --> 1:01:40.760 were in high school in nineteen eighty two. She said 1:01:40.760 --> 1:01:42.800 she was at a party in Maryland if you know 1:01:42.880 --> 1:01:44.560 the DC area, that's where they all grew up in 1:01:44.600 --> 1:01:47.680 the DC area. You know, like Maryland and Virginia are 1:01:48.120 --> 1:01:50.240 bordered right there. So they were like at a party 1:01:50.240 --> 1:01:53.360 in Maryland with Cavanaugh, his friend Mark Judge, and at 1:01:53.440 --> 1:01:55.840 least four other people. So it seemed like kind of 1:01:55.840 --> 1:01:59.840 a small party. Allegedly, she was upstairs or going upstairs. 1:02:00.000 --> 1:02:03.400 These two boys shoved her into a bedroom. Kavanaugh jumped 1:02:03.400 --> 1:02:05.720 on top of her and was aggressively groping her and 1:02:05.720 --> 1:02:08.640 trying to remove her clothes. They were both the boys 1:02:08.640 --> 1:02:11.760 were extremely drunk, and Kavanaugh covered her mouth, and she 1:02:11.840 --> 1:02:14.640 actually thought that he might accidentally kill her. Because she 1:02:15.040 --> 1:02:17.960 like by smothering her because she was covering he was 1:02:18.000 --> 1:02:19.560 covering her mouth like so hard. 1:02:20.600 --> 1:02:22.200 Eventually she was able to escape. 1:02:22.240 --> 1:02:24.520 So, like I said, I had never really heard of 1:02:24.560 --> 1:02:27.040 Mark Judge because I guess I was focused on Kevanaugh. 1:02:27.280 --> 1:02:29.360 He is an author and a journalist. He wrote a 1:02:29.360 --> 1:02:30.120 few different. 1:02:29.920 --> 1:02:32.520 Books, like one about being a young alcoholic, like a 1:02:32.600 --> 1:02:36.640 gen X alcoholic, and then he wrote another book called 1:02:36.760 --> 1:02:39.560 In God and Man at Georgetown Prep, which is a 1:02:39.560 --> 1:02:42.400 two thousand and five book. He wrote about the faculty 1:02:42.480 --> 1:02:45.800 at this prestigious I believe it's an all boys school 1:02:45.800 --> 1:02:48.360 in DC called Georgetown Prep, and how it had a 1:02:48.400 --> 1:02:51.640 lot of homosexual priests at the school, and how heavy 1:02:51.720 --> 1:02:54.360 drinking and wild parties were basically a way of life 1:02:54.360 --> 1:02:58.360 among the students. So when this all came out, Mark 1:02:58.440 --> 1:03:00.840 Judge sent a letter to the Senate Judicial Jerry Committee 1:03:01.040 --> 1:03:04.000 saying I have no memory of this alleged incident. And 1:03:04.120 --> 1:03:07.560 after seeing his denial, he had a girlfriend named Elizabeth 1:03:07.680 --> 1:03:11.200 Raysor who dated him for three years, who said she 1:03:11.280 --> 1:03:13.600 felt like she needed to challenge that account because she 1:03:13.600 --> 1:03:16.280 heard a completely different story from him. Basically, what he 1:03:16.320 --> 1:03:19.040 said when he was interviewed was yeah, I remember guys 1:03:19.080 --> 1:03:20.960 horse playing around a lot when we were drunk, but 1:03:20.960 --> 1:03:22.560 I never did that with women. None of us ever 1:03:22.600 --> 1:03:24.200 did that with women. You know, we only do that 1:03:24.200 --> 1:03:27.000 with guys. And then this girlfriend was like, she said 1:03:27.040 --> 1:03:29.760 that Judge had actually told her very ashamed of a 1:03:29.840 --> 1:03:32.360 time when him and a bunch of boys had had 1:03:32.400 --> 1:03:36.280 sex with a drunk woman taking turns. So she said 1:03:36.280 --> 1:03:38.800 that Judge seemed to regard it as a consensual thing, 1:03:39.040 --> 1:03:42.040 and that he didn't name others involved, and so she 1:03:42.080 --> 1:03:44.000 has no idea if Kavanaugh was involved in that act, 1:03:44.080 --> 1:03:45.880 in that incident, but she was like just kind of 1:03:45.920 --> 1:03:48.920 disturbed that he was trying to act like there was 1:03:49.040 --> 1:03:51.680 no sexual impropriety going on at Georgetown Prep when he 1:03:51.720 --> 1:03:56.880 had actually told her the opposite. So essentially, in the 1:03:56.880 --> 1:03:59.160 Ford case, if a lot of us remember, but just 1:03:59.200 --> 1:04:01.760 in case you don't. Ford's accusations were made public in 1:04:01.800 --> 1:04:04.360 a Washington Post report on September sixteenth, so this is 1:04:04.400 --> 1:04:07.560 a couple months after he's been nominated. Subsequently, two other 1:04:07.600 --> 1:04:10.880 women came forward. One was named Deborah Ramirez and one 1:04:10.920 --> 1:04:14.000 was named Julie Swetnik, and they both accused him of 1:04:14.040 --> 1:04:15.600 sexual assault instances in the past. 1:04:15.680 --> 1:04:16.880 Ramira said that he. 1:04:16.840 --> 1:04:18.960 Waved his penis in front of her at a dorm 1:04:19.000 --> 1:04:23.080 party in college. I think at Yale. I don't remember 1:04:23.120 --> 1:04:24.600 where they went to college. I think it was Yale. 1:04:24.960 --> 1:04:28.240 And then Sweatnick alleged that Kavana on his friends would 1:04:28.280 --> 1:04:31.400 spike drinks with drugs to make girls like pliable and 1:04:31.480 --> 1:04:35.840 more susceptible to sexual assault. And she said that Kavanaugh 1:04:36.000 --> 1:04:38.040 was present when she was gang raped at a party. 1:04:38.440 --> 1:04:41.120 And she basically said something along the lines of quote, 1:04:41.160 --> 1:04:43.640 they would line up outside rooms at many of these 1:04:43.680 --> 1:04:46.760 parties waiting for their quote turn with a girl inside 1:04:46.800 --> 1:04:48.000 the room end quote. 1:04:48.200 --> 1:04:49.440 And that's what's so fucked up. 1:04:49.480 --> 1:04:51.800 And you know that these people are full blown criminals 1:04:51.880 --> 1:04:54.600 because it's like you can get late in college. 1:04:54.720 --> 1:04:55.360 That's the point. 1:04:55.440 --> 1:04:58.560 Everyone's in college to fuck, you know, Like, yeah, you could, 1:04:58.720 --> 1:05:01.960 like girls got everyone's going out to fuck, So if 1:05:02.000 --> 1:05:05.360 you just wanted to get laid, it's pretty easy. I'm sorry, 1:05:05.520 --> 1:05:07.920 Like it doesn't matter. You can get fucked in college. 1:05:07.960 --> 1:05:11.840 So like that's why these people are criminals. This isn't horseplay. 1:05:11.920 --> 1:05:15.680 This isn't you know, like lining up to rape someone 1:05:15.720 --> 1:05:18.080 that's unconscious in a room, Like these are all fucking 1:05:18.120 --> 1:05:19.040 criminal totally. 1:05:19.160 --> 1:05:20.520 It's just making me really mad. 1:05:20.520 --> 1:05:22.640 I don't know, I'm gonna get through this honestly, Like, 1:05:23.640 --> 1:05:27.000 because that's all the whole case was like horseplay, horseplay boy, 1:05:27.240 --> 1:05:30.240 Oh it was just college. It's like, no, you can 1:05:30.320 --> 1:05:34.440 get fucked in college. It's actually not that hard, yeah, exactly. 1:05:34.760 --> 1:05:37.560 And drinking is just not an excuse. 1:05:37.800 --> 1:05:39.560 Like, I don't know, we need to be teaching men that, 1:05:39.600 --> 1:05:41.320 like a woman passed out is not a woman that's 1:05:41.400 --> 1:05:44.040 enjoying or consenting a sexual encounter. No, they know what 1:05:44.040 --> 1:05:47.200 they're doing. They're like criminals easy. It's actually discussing it's 1:05:47.280 --> 1:05:48.960 just so disgusting, like it's. 1:05:48.840 --> 1:05:50.959 Well, because that's what you talk about. They talk about 1:05:51.000 --> 1:05:53.480 like legality or not on all of that. It's like 1:05:53.560 --> 1:05:55.720 even if it's a consent or you're with, like why 1:05:55.720 --> 1:05:58.200 do you want to fuck a blacked out drunk person 1:05:58.440 --> 1:05:59.640 who cannot engage? 1:06:00.000 --> 1:06:02.240 Well, because it's about power. It's like look at Cosby. 1:06:02.280 --> 1:06:04.760 Cosby probably could have gotten many many women to consensually 1:06:04.800 --> 1:06:07.560 fuck him. He wanted to control women and do whatever 1:06:07.600 --> 1:06:09.320 he wanted them while they were incapacitated. 1:06:09.360 --> 1:06:10.760 It's like a power thing, you know. 1:06:11.280 --> 1:06:12.760 And they always say that no one believes it, because 1:06:12.760 --> 1:06:15.280 that's whole discussion with Louie where people are like, it's 1:06:15.280 --> 1:06:18.480 not that, you know, it's not these other cases, and 1:06:18.520 --> 1:06:20.320 I go, yeah, but the thing is, there's so many 1:06:20.360 --> 1:06:23.360 people who'd watch him jerk off, like tons of people 1:06:23.480 --> 1:06:25.400 I probably would have, you know what I mean, right, 1:06:25.520 --> 1:06:26.440 And that's not the point. 1:06:26.680 --> 1:06:30.480 The point point is making people, yeah, uncomforting, And. 1:06:30.440 --> 1:06:33.120 That's why the discussions with other comics are so annoying 1:06:33.120 --> 1:06:35.920 at times, because it's like, it's not about the action of. 1:06:35.920 --> 1:06:37.080 The jerking off at all. 1:06:37.240 --> 1:06:39.360 It's that he liked to do it in front of 1:06:39.400 --> 1:06:41.840 people who he knew didn't want to be there, right, 1:06:41.880 --> 1:06:46.160 Like why is that so hard to understand for. 1:06:46.160 --> 1:06:48.960 So many people? Because yeah, because we've talked about this before. 1:06:49.000 --> 1:06:50.400 He was he's a loaded man. 1:06:50.440 --> 1:06:52.400 He could have easily hired a sex worker to sit 1:06:52.400 --> 1:06:53.840 there and watch him jerk off. 1:06:53.840 --> 1:06:56.280 That's not the point, you know, Yeah, these are. 1:06:56.360 --> 1:06:59.760 It's like it's so fucked what we excuse as normal. 1:06:59.800 --> 1:07:02.919 But like you're like, what are your ideas of even 1:07:03.040 --> 1:07:06.960 fucking or sex with someone else if you don't that 1:07:07.040 --> 1:07:12.000 other person's enjoyment or even ability to be in the 1:07:12.040 --> 1:07:14.560 moment doesn't matter to you, Like, what do you think 1:07:14.760 --> 1:07:15.360 fucking is? 1:07:15.560 --> 1:07:17.520 I don't know. It's just okay, keep tilling, I'm going 1:07:17.560 --> 1:07:17.840 to stay. 1:07:17.880 --> 1:07:20.840 It's I think it's basically getting yours at whatever cost. 1:07:21.040 --> 1:07:23.440 That's what these guys are thinking. So okay. 1:07:23.480 --> 1:07:28.280 So September seventeenth, Kavanaugh denies everything I've never he says, 1:07:28.440 --> 1:07:31.280 never done anything like what the accuser describes to her 1:07:31.400 --> 1:07:34.560 or anyone. And then on the twenty seventh, both Ford 1:07:34.600 --> 1:07:38.520 and Kavanaugh testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee. Eventually, the 1:07:38.600 --> 1:07:42.360 Judiciary Committee the next day voted eleven to ten to 1:07:42.440 --> 1:07:44.680 send the Kavanaugh nomination to a full Senate with a 1:07:44.680 --> 1:07:48.200 favorable recommendation. But Senator Jeff Flake said, but let's do 1:07:48.240 --> 1:07:51.600 a one week in FBI investigation into the claims against him, 1:07:52.200 --> 1:07:54.600 and even he even threatened to like change his vote 1:07:54.640 --> 1:07:56.800 if that didn't happen. But it's all lip service, like 1:07:56.840 --> 1:08:00.080 it's bullshit. Like the FBI investigation was like very very 1:08:00.120 --> 1:08:03.320 limited at first. There were all these restrictions, like they 1:08:03.320 --> 1:08:06.840 were only allowed to talk to Mark Judge, they were 1:08:06.880 --> 1:08:09.280 only allowed to look into Ford and Ramirez his claims. 1:08:09.560 --> 1:08:14.000 Looking into Sweatnicks claims was blocked and only four individuals 1:08:14.000 --> 1:08:17.960 could be interviewed, Mark Judge Ramirez, Leland Kaiser, who was 1:08:17.960 --> 1:08:20.400 a friend of Ford's, who was allegedly also at the party, 1:08:20.439 --> 1:08:20.880 and PJ. 1:08:21.040 --> 1:08:23.240 Smith, who was another or PJ. Smyth. 1:08:23.280 --> 1:08:26.080 I don't know if miss smith Smyth another party attendee, 1:08:26.200 --> 1:08:27.000 Which makes no. 1:08:27.000 --> 1:08:28.920 Sense to me, because if you're asking the FBI to 1:08:29.000 --> 1:08:33.760 investigate everything, shouldn't they investigate everything? Yes, why would you 1:08:33.800 --> 1:08:36.439 put limits into an investigation if you want to find 1:08:36.479 --> 1:08:36.800 the truth. 1:08:36.800 --> 1:08:38.200 Why they didn't want to find the truth. 1:08:38.120 --> 1:08:39.519 Right, Because they didn't want to find the truth, because 1:08:39.520 --> 1:08:41.120 I think the whole thing was very set up just 1:08:41.160 --> 1:08:43.200 to act like they were being like bipartisan and like 1:08:43.280 --> 1:08:44.799 doing an investigation, but they weren't. 1:08:44.800 --> 1:08:46.800 Well yeah, because I mean you might get into all this, 1:08:47.000 --> 1:08:49.800 but like there's all this stuff where Kavanaugh's debts were 1:08:49.840 --> 1:08:52.639 paid off, and that's something with Kennedy happened, and Kennedy 1:08:52.680 --> 1:08:56.599 stepped down on purpose because of something behind the scenes. 1:08:56.640 --> 1:08:59.240 So Kavanaugh was like meant to be in the court 1:08:59.360 --> 1:09:01.680 to do some favors and all of his debts were 1:09:01.680 --> 1:09:02.200 paid off. 1:09:02.720 --> 1:09:05.519 I didn't read anything about the debts, but I didn't 1:09:05.560 --> 1:09:07.880 know about that that's really sketchy. I do know that, 1:09:08.000 --> 1:09:10.639 like one of the reasons Kennedy stepped down, they think 1:09:10.800 --> 1:09:13.160 is because Kavanaugh was being floated as a replacement, and 1:09:13.200 --> 1:09:15.040 he had like clerked for him and like knew him. 1:09:15.040 --> 1:09:17.760 So I think Kennedy thought, oh, if I go and 1:09:17.840 --> 1:09:20.160 Kavanaugh replaces me, then I feel more comfortable going. 1:09:20.360 --> 1:09:22.160 But I didn't know about all these debts. That's that's 1:09:22.200 --> 1:09:23.960 sketchy as far. Yeah, he had like. 1:09:24.040 --> 1:09:26.640 Millions and or hundreds of thousands in like credit card 1:09:26.680 --> 1:09:28.920 debts and like country club debts, and they were all 1:09:28.960 --> 1:09:31.280 paid off before he got on the bench by somebody 1:09:31.840 --> 1:09:33.920 Like this is so twisted, it and dark, and I 1:09:34.000 --> 1:09:36.400 bet in fifty years, I mean, we'll all be dead 1:09:36.439 --> 1:09:40.360 but or no one will investigate and these people will win. 1:09:40.479 --> 1:09:42.679 I mean that's this whole. This was such a scam. 1:09:42.720 --> 1:09:45.160 I mean, this was like such a hard time in life. 1:09:45.320 --> 1:09:45.639 Yeah. 1:09:45.880 --> 1:09:48.120 I remember, like women at that time, we were all 1:09:48.160 --> 1:09:50.320 just kind of like because we were all like beaten 1:09:50.400 --> 1:09:52.800 down by the Trump presidency in general, and then with this, 1:09:52.840 --> 1:09:54.160 we were just kind of like fuck. 1:09:54.320 --> 1:09:54.479 Like. 1:09:54.560 --> 1:09:56.760 It was so depressing at that time. 1:09:56.600 --> 1:09:59.759 Because it basically showed the standard of like what happens 1:09:59.840 --> 1:10:02.719 to women. It was just like, because every I feel 1:10:02.920 --> 1:10:06.280 person has been in a moment like this scene, a 1:10:06.320 --> 1:10:07.840 moment felt this way. 1:10:07.880 --> 1:10:11.519 It really felt so personal, and she was so brave 1:10:11.560 --> 1:10:13.479 to come forward. Like people are like, oh, she did, 1:10:13.800 --> 1:10:16.920 what attention would be worth this? Like she had to 1:10:16.960 --> 1:10:18.800 like leave her job, she had to move her house, 1:10:18.880 --> 1:10:23.480 like she was docks like harassed there. She was completely 1:10:23.560 --> 1:10:25.519 like such a brave woman to just come up and say, 1:10:25.560 --> 1:10:28.240 this is the person that you're going to install onto 1:10:28.240 --> 1:10:31.439 the nation's highest court to make decisions about our bodies 1:10:31.479 --> 1:10:33.600 and our lives, and this is who he is. She 1:10:33.640 --> 1:10:37.640 could have absolutely said nothing, but she decided to step up. 1:10:37.720 --> 1:10:41.040 And I think she gained almost nothing from that. Nothing. 1:10:41.760 --> 1:10:43.320 So when people are. 1:10:43.160 --> 1:10:45.760 Like, oh, she had her own political reasons, but it's 1:10:45.800 --> 1:10:48.760 like no, like not like I just don't buy any 1:10:48.760 --> 1:10:51.080 of that shit. It was only hurt her to stand up, 1:10:51.120 --> 1:10:52.880 and she still did it. 1:10:52.880 --> 1:10:55.120 It's like of all the evidence and all the men 1:10:55.240 --> 1:10:58.599 that kill their wives and beat people and are serial killers, 1:10:58.640 --> 1:11:02.200 and people are still surprise, No, it must be for 1:11:02.240 --> 1:11:04.639 her doing attention. It's like how many more men need 1:11:04.680 --> 1:11:07.160 to do heinous crimes for you to just give the 1:11:07.200 --> 1:11:10.280 benefit of the doubt to someone I don't know it is. 1:11:11.800 --> 1:11:12.759 Well, so okay. 1:11:12.880 --> 1:11:15.439 On October first, a couple of days after the FBI 1:11:15.880 --> 1:11:19.000 investigation was launched, The Times reported that the White House 1:11:19.040 --> 1:11:22.479 had authorized the FBI to expand the investigation and they 1:11:22.520 --> 1:11:25.280 could interview anyone they want. So initially there were all 1:11:25.320 --> 1:11:27.599 these restrictions and only four people were allowed to be interviewed. 1:11:27.640 --> 1:11:29.960 And then a couple days later, okay, they loosened it up, 1:11:30.320 --> 1:11:33.040 and then the White House counsel Don McGahn told the 1:11:33.080 --> 1:11:36.280 FBI that they could expand the investigation. Great, Still, it 1:11:36.360 --> 1:11:39.639 doesn't seem like anything's really being done. Ultimately, the FBI's 1:11:39.720 --> 1:11:45.360 investigation was basically for show. They later reports showed that 1:11:45.400 --> 1:11:48.280 they did not interview more than a dozen people who 1:11:48.320 --> 1:11:50.799 said they could provide information about the incidents of Kavanaugh 1:11:50.840 --> 1:11:54.760 exposing himself to women. Lawyers for Ford and Ramirez had 1:11:54.880 --> 1:11:58.320 sent the FBI director Ray they had sent him fifty 1:11:58.320 --> 1:12:01.519 plus individuals on a list that they could interview, and 1:12:01.600 --> 1:12:03.760 only nine of them were ever contacted, and all of 1:12:03.760 --> 1:12:05.720 those nine people were from a list that the Republicans 1:12:05.720 --> 1:12:06.320 had submitted. 1:12:07.240 --> 1:12:10.280 So well, and the fact that the whole thing was 1:12:10.320 --> 1:12:11.880 a week and it was rushed, and they rushed it 1:12:11.920 --> 1:12:12.960 before midterm election. 1:12:13.080 --> 1:12:14.679 I mean, this was a fucking farce. 1:12:14.840 --> 1:12:17.280 You know, it was completely it was a it was 1:12:17.360 --> 1:12:19.800 kind of like the Kyle Rittenhouse trial where it's like 1:12:20.200 --> 1:12:22.320 we knew what was going to happen before it happened. 1:12:22.400 --> 1:12:24.440 Like nothing was legit. 1:12:24.479 --> 1:12:28.760 Right, And then October fifth, the Senate voted fifty one 1:12:28.800 --> 1:12:31.160 to forty nine to approve Kavanaugh. I mean at that 1:12:31.200 --> 1:12:35.200 point it was a Republican a Senate. So Murkowski, who's 1:12:35.200 --> 1:12:38.439 a Republican, voted no, but Mansin voted yes, who's basically 1:12:38.479 --> 1:12:40.120 a Republican even though he's a Democrat. 1:12:40.360 --> 1:12:43.720 Isn'ty the number one reason why there's no paid maternity 1:12:43.800 --> 1:12:45.080 leave or child's leave? 1:12:45.160 --> 1:12:48.040 Now? I mean, Manchin is literally holding the government hostage 1:12:48.080 --> 1:12:49.080 like he's a nightmare. 1:12:49.200 --> 1:12:51.679 Like, but how is this one fucking guy, Like I don't. 1:12:51.479 --> 1:12:53.759 Get it because we're in a fifty to fifty Senate 1:12:53.800 --> 1:12:56.640 and if he votes against stuff, it's like then you know, 1:12:56.800 --> 1:12:59.479 so he's like got so much fucking power right now. 1:13:00.080 --> 1:13:02.639 The fact that this one guy is the reason women 1:13:02.720 --> 1:13:04.320 can't get paid leave when they have. 1:13:04.280 --> 1:13:06.439 A child, Yeah, Like he's the reason they had to 1:13:06.439 --> 1:13:08.519 cut so much out of the build back better plan 1:13:08.640 --> 1:13:11.679 and everything like it's well him and Cinema maybe too, 1:13:11.720 --> 1:13:15.880 I don't know. But Kavanaugh's confirmation, I didn't realize this 1:13:16.080 --> 1:13:19.599 was the most historically close confirmation vote in over one 1:13:19.640 --> 1:13:22.559 hundred years since eighteen eighty one or something, and even then, 1:13:22.640 --> 1:13:26.080 because there were fewer senators. If you do it by percentage, 1:13:26.120 --> 1:13:28.960 it was even closer than that. So because like the 1:13:29.000 --> 1:13:31.479 last vote was only a one was between one vote 1:13:31.520 --> 1:13:34.360 and this was between two votes, but percentage wise, this 1:13:34.520 --> 1:13:36.599 was closer. And now we all just have to accept 1:13:36.600 --> 1:13:39.080 that there's a man on the Supreme Court knowing all 1:13:39.120 --> 1:13:42.479 of the allegations that Christine bozi Ford made and believing 1:13:42.479 --> 1:13:46.439 them most of us, and it's just, you know, again, 1:13:46.680 --> 1:13:49.400 a horrible world to be a woman in. He also 1:13:49.479 --> 1:13:53.880 claimed in the court in the hearings that he never 1:13:53.960 --> 1:13:56.599 got blacked out and never didn't remember things he did, 1:13:56.640 --> 1:13:58.559 and all these people that went to college with him 1:13:58.600 --> 1:14:01.479 were like, uh, excuse me, and they all were. 1:14:01.320 --> 1:14:03.160 Like, yes, he did. He used to black out all 1:14:03.160 --> 1:14:03.599 the time. 1:14:04.080 --> 1:14:06.880 So it's just like it's like you said you do 1:14:06.960 --> 1:14:09.200 one thing, how you do everything? Like this guy is 1:14:09.240 --> 1:14:12.160 like that's maybe he's married now and not sexually assaulting 1:14:12.160 --> 1:14:12.880 people anymore, but. 1:14:12.840 --> 1:14:15.160 He no, But you could even tell the way the 1:14:15.200 --> 1:14:18.000 woman stood, like I feel he beats his wife. I 1:14:18.000 --> 1:14:20.960 don't trust this motherfucker, Like the body language of when 1:14:21.000 --> 1:14:23.200 his family would stand and he paraded his wife like 1:14:23.520 --> 1:14:25.479 that is a silent woman who does not have ConTroll 1:14:25.560 --> 1:14:26.599 or power in that household. 1:14:27.280 --> 1:14:29.559 Yeah. 1:14:29.640 --> 1:14:32.600 The next case that this episode drew from are is 1:14:32.640 --> 1:14:37.519 obviously the Mario Batally sexual misconduct allegations. And like it's 1:14:37.520 --> 1:14:40.439 no secret that sexual harassment is rampant in the restaurant industry. 1:14:40.479 --> 1:14:44.000 They make that clear in the episode as well, like 1:14:44.040 --> 1:14:46.000 everyone's like part of the job, part of the job. 1:14:46.120 --> 1:14:48.200 Like and according to an article that I read in 1:14:48.240 --> 1:14:51.280 the Harvard Business Review, more sexual harassment claims in the 1:14:51.400 --> 1:14:53.679 US are filed in the restaurant industry than in any 1:14:53.720 --> 1:14:56.639 other whereas men As many as ninety percent of women 1:14:56.680 --> 1:14:59.920 and seventy percent of men reportedly experienced some fort of 1:15:00.040 --> 1:15:02.639 sexual harassment. Like I truly think it's one hundred percent 1:15:02.720 --> 1:15:04.240 if you really think about it, Like the other ten 1:15:04.280 --> 1:15:06.679 percent were probably like let me think and like couldn't 1:15:06.680 --> 1:15:09.360 think of but like they definitely have been like somebody 1:15:09.400 --> 1:15:12.160 has at least called you like sweet tits or something 1:15:12.200 --> 1:15:12.559 like that. 1:15:12.479 --> 1:15:14.120 When you took their appetizer order. 1:15:14.160 --> 1:15:16.400 You know what I mean, Like every waitress I feel 1:15:16.400 --> 1:15:19.120 like has had a problem, and probably men have happened 1:15:19.200 --> 1:15:22.240 as well too. I mean, according to this so specifically 1:15:22.240 --> 1:15:24.559 in this episode, it's about a celebrity chef, so it 1:15:24.640 --> 1:15:26.519 touches on the Mario Batali case. 1:15:26.560 --> 1:15:27.519 If you don't know Mario. 1:15:27.320 --> 1:15:31.160 Batali, he's like this big guy with red, slick back 1:15:31.240 --> 1:15:32.439 hair and he wore crocs. 1:15:32.479 --> 1:15:34.880 That's kind of his signature thing. Yeah, he was friends 1:15:34.880 --> 1:15:37.040 with Gwyneth Paltrow. I bet they're still friends. 1:15:37.280 --> 1:15:41.080 Yeah, No, probably, And he was a chef and owner 1:15:41.120 --> 1:15:43.320 of a lot of high profile restaurants in New York 1:15:43.439 --> 1:15:46.960 and La and Vegas and apparently randomly Westport, Connecticut and 1:15:47.000 --> 1:15:51.719 other places, but mostly New York and La del Posto, Babo, 1:15:51.840 --> 1:15:59.200 La Cierna, Lupa, Otto, Beco, Casamono, Esca, Philidia barhamone in 1:15:59.360 --> 1:16:01.840 New York City, and then in La we've got Keith 1:16:01.920 --> 1:16:04.320 Bacha and Asteria Mozza. I've been to both of them. 1:16:04.320 --> 1:16:05.800 I've been to No, I haven't been to I've been 1:16:05.800 --> 1:16:06.280 to Austria. 1:16:06.360 --> 1:16:06.679 Mozza. 1:16:07.120 --> 1:16:10.160 I've been to Beco I think, and I've been to 1:16:10.680 --> 1:16:11.519 Babo once. 1:16:11.600 --> 1:16:14.000 Maybe I've been to Babo a few times. 1:16:14.120 --> 1:16:16.720 I really love it. I've been to Babo alone too, 1:16:16.840 --> 1:16:17.800 like just sat at the bar. 1:16:18.520 --> 1:16:19.200 Oh wow. 1:16:19.479 --> 1:16:21.280 I think I went to a baby shower at Babo 1:16:21.280 --> 1:16:23.920 too once during the day but for my friend who's 1:16:23.960 --> 1:16:24.840 little fancy. 1:16:24.640 --> 1:16:28.360 And I just actually had a stereo Matza takeoutten. 1:16:28.479 --> 1:16:30.160 Oh yeah, it's really good. 1:16:30.200 --> 1:16:31.960 Well, I went there with our friends parents who were 1:16:32.000 --> 1:16:33.640 in town from Ohio and like to live it up 1:16:33.640 --> 1:16:34.040 when they come. 1:16:34.120 --> 1:16:35.360 Well, you took a limo there. 1:16:35.960 --> 1:16:38.360 Well, I was nine months pregnant, so I wasn't going 1:16:38.400 --> 1:16:40.080 to lower my body into a limo. But I did 1:16:40.120 --> 1:16:41.600 meet them there and they did take a limo and 1:16:41.600 --> 1:16:44.439 it was very funny. And then he had a lot 1:16:44.439 --> 1:16:47.400 of restaurants in Vegas that I think closed down recently. 1:16:47.439 --> 1:16:50.120 But so he also was a big TV. 1:16:50.000 --> 1:16:52.200 Personality, like he had a show on the Food Network 1:16:52.200 --> 1:16:54.760 called Molto Mario and was on Iron Chef America. And 1:16:54.760 --> 1:16:56.519 he was also a co host of a show called 1:16:56.520 --> 1:16:59.000 The Chew which I think Carla from Top Chef. 1:16:58.800 --> 1:17:02.240 Was on right, yes, yea, and chef Michael Simon who 1:17:02.400 --> 1:17:05.960 loved a Cleveland guy, and I don't know who else. 1:17:06.560 --> 1:17:09.679 So one other interesting thing I learned about Mario Batali 1:17:09.960 --> 1:17:13.559 is that he is married to a woman named Susie Kahan, 1:17:14.240 --> 1:17:17.720 who is the daughter of the founders of Coach, the 1:17:17.760 --> 1:17:23.200 Purses and Wallace. Yeah, so he married into money and 1:17:23.200 --> 1:17:26.519 then he also was very successful and in addition to 1:17:26.600 --> 1:17:30.080 high priced handbags. I read the Khan family because of 1:17:30.120 --> 1:17:33.960 their travels all around the world with their purses and 1:17:34.040 --> 1:17:39.040 like leather business, they got very into like delicious cheeses 1:17:39.080 --> 1:17:41.280 and stuff, and they got into the dairy farm business, 1:17:41.760 --> 1:17:44.880 and Batali would use Coach farm products in all his 1:17:44.960 --> 1:17:46.200 restaurants around the country. 1:17:46.479 --> 1:17:48.680 I thought that was interesting. It is interesting. 1:17:49.760 --> 1:17:52.599 So, like I said at the beginning, this is timed 1:17:52.640 --> 1:17:56.000 a little bit perfectly with like twenty seventeen October is 1:17:56.040 --> 1:17:59.600 when Weinstein's allegation surface and the met too movement is 1:17:59.600 --> 1:18:02.720 like gaining all this steam. And then in December of 1:18:02.760 --> 1:18:06.240 that same year, December of twenty seventeen, the food website 1:18:06.280 --> 1:18:09.479 Eater dropped this big piece about Mario Batali that talked 1:18:09.479 --> 1:18:12.759 about four women who all accused Batali of sexual harassment 1:18:12.760 --> 1:18:16.240 and sexual misconduct. One woman said that she didn't work 1:18:16.240 --> 1:18:17.800 for him. She just met him at a party. She 1:18:17.880 --> 1:18:19.200 was like a fan, and she went up to talk 1:18:19.240 --> 1:18:22.360 to him. She spilled wine on her chest, like down 1:18:22.360 --> 1:18:24.840 her top, and he started like groping at her breast, 1:18:24.840 --> 1:18:26.479 being like, let me help you with that, like a 1:18:26.520 --> 1:18:29.800 real creep, and was like groping her bare breasts. And 1:18:29.840 --> 1:18:33.440 then three other women that talked to eat all anonymously 1:18:34.720 --> 1:18:36.040 because they fear retaliation. 1:18:36.720 --> 1:18:38.599 They had all been employees of Batali. 1:18:38.720 --> 1:18:41.080 One said over the course of two years, he repeatedly 1:18:41.080 --> 1:18:44.080 grabbed her from behind and held her tightly against his body. 1:18:44.160 --> 1:18:48.000 Another alleged groping and said, in a separate incident, he 1:18:48.040 --> 1:18:50.880 compelled her to straddle him. Basically I read a more 1:18:50.920 --> 1:18:53.400 in detail thing about this, like he wouldn't move his 1:18:53.479 --> 1:18:54.960 legs when she was trying to get in and out 1:18:54.960 --> 1:18:57.400 of her room, so she had to straddle him to 1:18:57.400 --> 1:18:59.320 get out of the room. And then when she came back, 1:18:59.360 --> 1:19:01.000 he was like sorry about it and made her do 1:19:01.040 --> 1:19:02.800 it again so she could come back into the room. 1:19:02.920 --> 1:19:06.080 Like just gross, like shit, that seems like high school 1:19:06.120 --> 1:19:10.519 boy teasing shit, but is actually like pretty gross and dehumanizing. Well, 1:19:10.560 --> 1:19:14.960 he's also like not to you know, he also looks 1:19:14.960 --> 1:19:18.720 like shit, like he's not a hot guy. And so 1:19:18.800 --> 1:19:21.960 to me, it's like it's a genre of person where 1:19:21.960 --> 1:19:26.680 it's like you are working to become popular and successful 1:19:26.840 --> 1:19:29.559 so you can do these things that you feel entitled 1:19:29.560 --> 1:19:30.680 to or you want it to do. 1:19:30.880 --> 1:19:33.400 You know, it's like a tale as old as time. 1:19:33.479 --> 1:19:35.719 It's like you couldn't get the action you wanted, probably 1:19:35.760 --> 1:19:37.960 as a teen, and now you get to do whatever 1:19:37.960 --> 1:19:38.959 the fuck you want. 1:19:38.920 --> 1:19:39.799 And no one cares. 1:19:41.720 --> 1:19:44.920 So like another the fourth woman said that he grabbed 1:19:44.920 --> 1:19:46.960 your breast at a party, though she was no longer 1:19:46.960 --> 1:19:50.200 an employee at that point. And it was reported that 1:19:50.240 --> 1:19:52.760 in October twenty seventeen, a couple months before this came 1:19:52.800 --> 1:19:56.400 out and employee at B and B, which is Batally 1:19:56.479 --> 1:20:01.160 and Bastianich that's his partner, was Joe Bostianicch and all 1:20:01.160 --> 1:20:03.160 these restaurants, so that their thing was called B and 1:20:03.200 --> 1:20:09.200 B and they report Apparently in October twenty seventeen, inappropriate 1:20:09.240 --> 1:20:11.479 behavior by Batally was reported to the company and it 1:20:11.520 --> 1:20:13.640 was the first formal complaint about him, and he was 1:20:13.680 --> 1:20:17.320 reprimanded and required to under go training, according to the company. 1:20:17.360 --> 1:20:20.760 And this is like in October of twenty seventeen, when like, yes, 1:20:20.920 --> 1:20:24.000 the winds of change were already blowing, Weinstein was happening 1:20:24.120 --> 1:20:26.559 like there's no way in fucking hell. That was his 1:20:26.640 --> 1:20:29.040 first actual complaint. It was just the first one that 1:20:29.080 --> 1:20:31.000 somebody felt ballsy enough to. 1:20:33.640 --> 1:20:34.040 Report. 1:20:34.200 --> 1:20:38.519 So basically the day after this eat a report came out, 1:20:38.640 --> 1:20:42.320 four more women came forward, and then his whole life 1:20:42.360 --> 1:20:45.280 basically imploded. Three days after this report came out, he 1:20:45.400 --> 1:20:48.439 was fired from the two The Food Network pulled Multo Mario, 1:20:48.880 --> 1:20:51.760 and Target pulled all of his sauces and cookbooks. And 1:20:51.800 --> 1:20:54.000 here's the thing. But Tally did not deny any of 1:20:54.040 --> 1:20:56.960 these allegations. In a statement to Eater, he said, quote, 1:20:57.400 --> 1:20:59.880 I apologize to the people I have mistreated and hurt. 1:21:00.000 --> 1:21:02.320 Although the identities of most of the individuals mentioned in 1:21:02.360 --> 1:21:04.040 these stories have not been revealed to me, much of 1:21:04.080 --> 1:21:07.040 the behavior described does in fact match up with ways 1:21:07.080 --> 1:21:09.479 I have acted. That behavior was wrong, and there are 1:21:09.520 --> 1:21:12.559 no excuses. I take full responsibility, and I am deeply sorry 1:21:12.560 --> 1:21:15.439 for any pain, humiliation, or discomfort I have caused to 1:21:15.479 --> 1:21:17.920 my peers, employees, customers, friends and family. 1:21:18.360 --> 1:21:19.240 And I'm like, it's. 1:21:19.160 --> 1:21:20.920 Funny because I'm so tempted to be like, well, at 1:21:21.000 --> 1:21:23.080 least that's a good apology, but I'm like, no, this 1:21:23.080 --> 1:21:25.600 guy's only sorry he got caught, you know, like he 1:21:25.600 --> 1:21:28.120 would have kept doing this for years and years. I'm sure, 1:21:29.560 --> 1:21:31.479 but I think that that is at least a good 1:21:31.479 --> 1:21:35.080 way to apologize, whereas like Louis's apology, where he's like, 1:21:35.520 --> 1:21:37.360 you know, I guess I. 1:21:37.360 --> 1:21:38.439 Kind of did something wrong. 1:21:38.479 --> 1:21:41.400 Didn't seem that bad, you know, these wishy, washy apologies, Like, 1:21:41.720 --> 1:21:43.559 at least this man is just saying, yeah, I was 1:21:43.560 --> 1:21:46.960 a fucking asshole, and like I'm sorry, even though I 1:21:47.000 --> 1:21:50.240 do think he's only mad he got caught, so yeah, 1:21:50.320 --> 1:21:52.160 like I said, many of the people who spoke with 1:21:52.200 --> 1:21:55.400 Eaterer were afraid of retribution for speaking out, and a 1:21:55.439 --> 1:21:58.280 woman who claimed she was inappropriately touched while working for 1:21:58.320 --> 1:22:01.559 Batali in the nineties told Eter quote, he has clear 1:22:01.560 --> 1:22:04.479 intent on being threatening when he's wrong, and the level 1:22:04.479 --> 1:22:07.320 of vindictiveness is very chilling. So it never occurred to 1:22:07.360 --> 1:22:09.880 me to share tales out of school. And she also 1:22:09.920 --> 1:22:12.719 went on to say this wasn't just some dirty jokes, 1:22:12.760 --> 1:22:14.920 this was mean, This was about asserting power. 1:22:15.040 --> 1:22:18.040 He is awful, and then Another woman. 1:22:18.080 --> 1:22:20.840 Separately said, he gets wasted, he's arrogant, and he acts 1:22:20.880 --> 1:22:23.639 like he's God's gift to women. This is still your industry. 1:22:23.680 --> 1:22:25.760 You're a leader in this industry. If you behave this way, 1:22:25.840 --> 1:22:30.360 what kind of example are you setting? So essentially he 1:22:30.400 --> 1:22:33.880 lost all that stuff by twenty nineteen, the beginning of 1:22:33.920 --> 1:22:36.439 twenty nineteen, he divested from all of his businesses. So 1:22:36.479 --> 1:22:38.960 those restaurants still stand, but he's divested from them. 1:22:39.000 --> 1:22:40.920 But it is wild. 1:22:40.960 --> 1:22:42.800 I don't know if that's the right word to think 1:22:42.840 --> 1:22:46.599 about this, where it's like, quote unquote Kavanaugh did worse 1:22:46.640 --> 1:22:50.320 stuff and he is a Supreme Court justice, and then 1:22:50.360 --> 1:22:53.599 this guy did divest from all his businesses and give 1:22:53.680 --> 1:22:56.960 up all these things. It's like it's kind of what's 1:22:57.000 --> 1:22:59.400 the game where you throw dart? It's like darts, it's 1:22:59.400 --> 1:23:01.679 like throwing It's like you don't know what's gonna happen. 1:23:01.760 --> 1:23:04.200 You could fully rape people and get off and live 1:23:04.320 --> 1:23:07.240 a great life like Bill Cosby in jail. 1:23:07.080 --> 1:23:09.320 Right, Yeah, yeah, I think Bill Cosby got out. Yeah, 1:23:09.320 --> 1:23:11.920 But like it is, you never know. 1:23:12.200 --> 1:23:15.040 You just never know what will stick and what doesn't. 1:23:15.439 --> 1:23:18.200 It's even during the Me Too movement, like people keep 1:23:18.240 --> 1:23:19.120 talking about James Frank. 1:23:19.320 --> 1:23:22.960 No one actually cares, you know, It's like you can't. 1:23:23.280 --> 1:23:24.719 That's why guys have to be careful. 1:23:25.160 --> 1:23:27.439 Don't leave your house, leave your don't leave your house, 1:23:27.560 --> 1:23:31.439 stay inside, don't go anywhere, do anything. Don't risk it. 1:23:31.479 --> 1:23:33.400 Why would you risk it because you don't know how 1:23:33.439 --> 1:23:34.160 it'll end up. 1:23:34.400 --> 1:23:36.519 We'll let you know when you're allowed out of your house, okay, man, 1:23:37.040 --> 1:23:39.400 I mean if men were not allowed out of the house, 1:23:39.880 --> 1:23:41.960 there would be no there'd be a lot less crime. 1:23:43.720 --> 1:23:44.360 For sure. 1:23:45.320 --> 1:23:49.200 So in May of twenty nineteen, but Tally was charged 1:23:49.240 --> 1:23:51.559 with indecent assault and battery and was scheduled to be 1:23:51.640 --> 1:23:55.840 arraigned in Boston Municipal Court and then and in court, 1:23:55.880 --> 1:23:58.439 this accuser described an event that took place after she 1:23:58.479 --> 1:24:01.479 took a selfie with U Batally in twenty seventeen. She 1:24:01.520 --> 1:24:04.960 said he quote grabbed her breasts, buttocks, and groin forcibly, 1:24:05.000 --> 1:24:07.120 kissed her mouth and cheeks, and suggested they head to 1:24:07.160 --> 1:24:10.519 his nearby hotel. Batally has pled no not guilty to 1:24:10.600 --> 1:24:13.080 these charges and he will actually be heading to trial 1:24:13.120 --> 1:24:16.759 in Boston for this in April and then in July 1:24:16.880 --> 1:24:19.760 of twenty twenty one. So just this past July, but 1:24:19.960 --> 1:24:24.240 Tally and Joe Bastianich, his partner, his former restaurant partner, 1:24:25.000 --> 1:24:27.559 agreed to a settlement in the New York Cases where 1:24:27.600 --> 1:24:30.400 he would pay six hundred thousand dollars to more than 1:24:30.400 --> 1:24:34.519 twenty employees of their restaurants, Babo, Loopa and Del Posto. 1:24:34.720 --> 1:24:37.600 Why they're save, there's there's sharing the six hundred or 1:24:37.840 --> 1:24:38.200 each other. 1:24:38.520 --> 1:24:42.120 Sounds like they each get six hundred. Wow, love that 1:24:42.160 --> 1:24:44.960 it does. It's just crazy to. 1:24:44.920 --> 1:24:46.280 Me that this was all going on while I was 1:24:46.280 --> 1:24:49.080 making reservations for my mean boss at the time, okay, 1:24:49.720 --> 1:24:54.000 at the same restaurants. So basically some of the stuff 1:24:54.000 --> 1:24:55.960 I was reading is like, the reason that the restaurant 1:24:56.000 --> 1:24:59.080 business has such a high rate of sexual assault and 1:25:00.120 --> 1:25:03.960 misconduct and harassment is because there's a huge power gap. 1:25:04.000 --> 1:25:05.640 A lot of men are in positions of power in 1:25:05.640 --> 1:25:09.200 the restaurant industry and women are in lower positions. There's 1:25:09.240 --> 1:25:12.600 a high turnover rate. There's that customer is always right mentality, 1:25:12.640 --> 1:25:16.439 which like kind of allows customers to treat servers however 1:25:16.479 --> 1:25:19.400 they want. And then tipping, of course makes service staff 1:25:19.439 --> 1:25:21.680 much less likely to come forward because they're relying on 1:25:21.720 --> 1:25:24.400 tip money. Also, what I was reading in this article 1:25:24.400 --> 1:25:26.760 from the Harvard Business Review is it's a looks industry, 1:25:26.800 --> 1:25:29.840 and like a culture that emphasizes and rewards looks and 1:25:29.960 --> 1:25:34.439 ways can help customers and managers justify sexual harassment in 1:25:34.479 --> 1:25:36.920 some ways. I mean, it's not right, but that is 1:25:36.960 --> 1:25:40.200 what's happening. And they basically said that to change the system, 1:25:40.560 --> 1:25:42.640 there need to be systems in place for employees to 1:25:42.680 --> 1:25:45.040 go when they have complaints, even if it's the manager 1:25:45.120 --> 1:25:46.640 is the one that's bothering them. There needs to be 1:25:46.680 --> 1:25:48.280 like a backup of where they can go if the 1:25:48.400 --> 1:25:49.360 manager is the one. 1:25:49.200 --> 1:25:49.680 Committing the. 1:25:51.760 --> 1:25:54.640 Harassment, and that there should be the same way that 1:25:54.680 --> 1:25:58.160 there's secret shoppers who come in to eat at a 1:25:58.200 --> 1:25:59.960 restaurant and tell you what you're doing wrong, there should 1:26:00.160 --> 1:26:02.080 secret people. There should be people that just drop in 1:26:02.160 --> 1:26:04.439 and interview the staff about what's going on and like 1:26:04.479 --> 1:26:07.040 allow them to have an opportunity to voice their concerns. 1:26:07.720 --> 1:26:10.880 And then they basically suggest that all employees should take 1:26:10.920 --> 1:26:13.840 bystander intervention training so that witnesses of harassment know how 1:26:13.880 --> 1:26:18.880 to identify and help women who experience it. And yeah, 1:26:18.920 --> 1:26:21.880 basically the restaurant industry really needs to firmly address customer 1:26:21.920 --> 1:26:26.160 based sexual harassment as well, Like they should be relying 1:26:26.200 --> 1:26:30.000 on managers to protect their employees from unwanted behavior from customers. 1:26:30.000 --> 1:26:32.360 So if like a customer is harassing someone like they 1:26:32.360 --> 1:26:34.400 need to be the server needs to be moved off 1:26:34.400 --> 1:26:36.200 the table on the first warning, and then if there's 1:26:36.200 --> 1:26:38.280 an if it happens again, they need the customer needs 1:26:38.320 --> 1:26:40.920 to be removed from the establishment. So just a few 1:26:41.040 --> 1:26:43.200 things that this article is suggesting for ways to stop it. 1:26:43.240 --> 1:26:45.160 But I'm also in the sister peg segment going to 1:26:45.200 --> 1:26:46.080 give you a resource. 1:26:46.680 --> 1:26:48.840 And yeah, that's kind of what's up. 1:26:48.880 --> 1:26:50.760 I have no idea what but Tally's up to now 1:26:50.800 --> 1:26:55.320 besides gearing up for that April court date. And it 1:26:55.520 --> 1:26:59.080 just sucks that a restaurant an industry that we enjoy 1:26:59.200 --> 1:27:01.280 so much. We love going out to eat, both you 1:27:01.360 --> 1:27:03.799 and I like it provides so much joy for people, 1:27:03.880 --> 1:27:05.800 and like it just can be a nightmare for people 1:27:05.800 --> 1:27:08.240 that are trying to like make ends meet and work 1:27:08.360 --> 1:27:11.160 under duress in shitty situations. 1:27:11.760 --> 1:27:15.920 Yeah, it's weird that all male dominated industries have so 1:27:16.000 --> 1:27:16.840 many problems. 1:27:16.880 --> 1:27:21.439 I wonder why, I mean, really seriously fucked up. 1:27:21.720 --> 1:27:25.040 I think whoever took over Batally like to somebody who 1:27:25.040 --> 1:27:27.040 took over at their business group was a woman like 1:27:27.120 --> 1:27:29.080 they and a lot of like the Spotted Pig was 1:27:29.120 --> 1:27:31.599 a huge thing. Like I actually knew a girl back 1:27:31.600 --> 1:27:34.760 in New York who was a big uh witness or 1:27:34.760 --> 1:27:37.600 a victim in the Spotted Pig thing, which Batally was 1:27:37.640 --> 1:27:39.800 an investor of. But it was the different owners of 1:27:39.840 --> 1:27:44.600 the Spotted Pig that were sexual harassing and uh, the 1:27:44.600 --> 1:27:46.880 Spotted Pig got a female manager. I think like they're 1:27:46.880 --> 1:27:49.280 all trying to bring in more females to positions of. 1:27:49.160 --> 1:27:52.360 Power to try to counteract some of that. Although I've 1:27:52.360 --> 1:27:55.080 heard of nightmare women bosses too, so of cour well 1:27:55.080 --> 1:27:56.960 that's or are they in the movies? 1:27:57.200 --> 1:27:57.400 You know? 1:27:58.000 --> 1:28:02.559 Yeah, but our friends, the husband just got a new 1:28:02.640 --> 1:28:08.080 job and it's a female owner, and already he's noticed 1:28:08.400 --> 1:28:11.120 the differences and how amazing it is and how like 1:28:11.160 --> 1:28:13.960 you're encouraged to spend time with your family, you can 1:28:14.000 --> 1:28:18.200 make your own schedule like it just he's already realized 1:28:18.439 --> 1:28:20.640 how much better of an environment it was than his 1:28:20.800 --> 1:28:21.559 previous job. 1:28:22.439 --> 1:28:24.680 Yeah. Well, I mean, but then there's luscious grape, you 1:28:24.720 --> 1:28:28.840 know what I mean? There is luicious grape. 1:28:29.120 --> 1:28:33.040 All right, we do have an awesome house though, So yeah, 1:28:33.160 --> 1:28:35.479 let's get on the interview train. 1:28:35.600 --> 1:28:36.040 Babies. 1:28:43.720 --> 1:28:47.000 Okay, we're so excited about today's guest. She was a 1:28:47.080 --> 1:28:48.200 delight to talk to. 1:28:48.520 --> 1:28:48.640 You. 1:28:48.680 --> 1:28:52.439 Guys might recognize her from another Dick Wolf property called FBI, 1:28:53.080 --> 1:28:56.240 but you know her this week as Bethany Fisher. 1:28:56.840 --> 1:28:59.000 Please enjoy our chat with Sarah Abuse. 1:29:00.080 --> 1:29:02.680 When you auditioned for SVU, were you living in New 1:29:02.760 --> 1:29:05.879 York or LA and tell us about the audition process 1:29:05.920 --> 1:29:08.840 if you watched the show before, how did you feel 1:29:08.840 --> 1:29:10.839 when you got the part, all of that kind of stuff. 1:29:11.920 --> 1:29:14.120 Oh wow, Yeah, So I was living in New York 1:29:15.000 --> 1:29:18.160 and I was living in Crown Heights in a different 1:29:18.160 --> 1:29:22.960 apartment though, and I had auditioned for it, and you 1:29:23.000 --> 1:29:23.679 know these things. 1:29:23.720 --> 1:29:25.639 I'm sure as you know at this point they moved 1:29:25.680 --> 1:29:26.280 so quickly. 1:29:27.240 --> 1:29:30.360 So I think what happened is I went in for 1:29:31.760 --> 1:29:35.800 the audition and maybe like they were like, hey, can 1:29:35.840 --> 1:29:38.240 you come back later that day for a director's session. 1:29:38.280 --> 1:29:40.320 Maybe that's what happened, or maybe it was the next day. 1:29:40.360 --> 1:29:42.880 It was really soon though, and so I went back 1:29:42.920 --> 1:29:47.360 to the director session and Monica Raymond directed that episode. 1:29:47.400 --> 1:29:48.240 Who so lovely. 1:29:48.320 --> 1:29:51.200 She was one of the leads in another Dick Wolf show, 1:29:51.240 --> 1:29:54.559 like I think it was Chicago Med. Maybe she was 1:29:54.600 --> 1:29:58.799 the lead in for a while and she's a great actor, 1:29:59.040 --> 1:30:02.719 but this was her first time directing something. 1:30:03.640 --> 1:30:05.800 So yeah, I felt really good about it and I 1:30:05.880 --> 1:30:08.280 left and I was like, oh, I think maybe maybe 1:30:08.400 --> 1:30:09.000 it's possible. 1:30:09.040 --> 1:30:11.600 I got that and I was really excited when I 1:30:11.600 --> 1:30:15.040 booked it because it was my first television job. 1:30:16.080 --> 1:30:17.879 That alone made it really exciting. 1:30:18.160 --> 1:30:21.880 But I had never and I have still never to 1:30:21.920 --> 1:30:25.479 this day, seen a full episode of the show. 1:30:25.880 --> 1:30:28.200 Oh, oh my god, Oh my god. 1:30:28.200 --> 1:30:29.920 I can't believe I just told you so. 1:30:29.920 --> 1:30:31.360 You didn't even watch your episode. 1:30:32.560 --> 1:30:34.000 I watched some of it. 1:30:34.040 --> 1:30:36.559 I watched my parts, and then you know, buried my 1:30:36.640 --> 1:30:38.840 head in the sand. It was like ugh, and I 1:30:38.880 --> 1:30:41.280 watched like some of the other scenes, but I didn't 1:30:41.320 --> 1:30:43.160 watch the full episode start to finish. 1:30:44.040 --> 1:30:47.360 Oh my gosh, Wow, you're like one of the one 1:30:47.400 --> 1:30:49.559 percent of people on the planet maybe who have never 1:30:49.600 --> 1:30:51.240 watched a full episode of SVO. 1:30:51.960 --> 1:30:56.719 You know, I'm so fascinated by the fascination with the show, 1:30:58.640 --> 1:31:02.160 Like when I still we'll get text messages to this 1:31:02.240 --> 1:31:04.760 day or messages being like, oh my god, I saw 1:31:04.800 --> 1:31:08.719 you on STU And it's like the one thing that 1:31:08.880 --> 1:31:11.679 there's so many people who watch it and. 1:31:11.680 --> 1:31:13.280 I didn't even realize at the time. 1:31:13.439 --> 1:31:15.040 I knew it was a big show, but I didn't 1:31:15.160 --> 1:31:19.439 realize the this, you know, how many fans it had. 1:31:19.920 --> 1:31:21.680 Yeah, the actual like. 1:31:21.720 --> 1:31:27.559 Shooting of the episode was such a nightmare for me. 1:31:27.920 --> 1:31:31.439 Everyone on set was incredible. It's like such a well 1:31:31.439 --> 1:31:34.920 oiled machine over there, and people and not only is 1:31:34.960 --> 1:31:37.759 it a well oiled machine and everything is running so smoothly, 1:31:37.800 --> 1:31:38.920 but everyone is so. 1:31:39.200 --> 1:31:41.280 Kind and generous. 1:31:42.160 --> 1:31:46.080 But I, I mean you can sort of see, like 1:31:46.120 --> 1:31:48.360 when I looked back, I was like, oh yeah, I 1:31:48.360 --> 1:31:53.080 mean I basically had a panic attack on set, really bad. 1:31:53.120 --> 1:31:54.920 Like you can see when you're watching it that I 1:31:55.000 --> 1:31:57.000 kind of like break out in hives. 1:31:57.280 --> 1:31:59.640 Well, well, well take another watch. I did not. I 1:31:59.680 --> 1:32:00.839 didn't see the hivees. 1:32:01.000 --> 1:32:02.759 Yeah, you can kind of see them on my chest 1:32:02.760 --> 1:32:05.120 where like when the makeup sort of starts to do. 1:32:05.360 --> 1:32:07.640 But maybe it's kind of good though, because like you 1:32:07.680 --> 1:32:09.760 are coming forward with kind of a great, like a 1:32:09.880 --> 1:32:13.040 really brave moment, and anybody would be like nerve wrecked 1:32:13.040 --> 1:32:15.759 and like you know, maybe breaking out in hives. 1:32:16.040 --> 1:32:18.840 Yeah maybe so yeah, maybe it worked, Maybe it worked, 1:32:18.840 --> 1:32:22.840 maybe it was all good, but yeah, it was one 1:32:22.880 --> 1:32:25.880 of those things where I just did everything that an 1:32:25.920 --> 1:32:27.720 actor like shouldn't do. 1:32:27.720 --> 1:32:28.920 Their first time on set. 1:32:29.920 --> 1:32:31.920 Like we were in the middle of shooting and I 1:32:31.920 --> 1:32:34.839 started getting really nervous and I was like not breathing, 1:32:34.840 --> 1:32:38.759 and I wasn't doing what the I felt the director 1:32:38.840 --> 1:32:41.920 wanted me to do, what Monica wanted from me, and 1:32:41.960 --> 1:32:45.800 I like wasn't getting there emotionally, and it was just 1:32:45.840 --> 1:32:46.800 so wrapped. 1:32:46.479 --> 1:32:48.880 Up in my head. And you know, one of. 1:32:48.800 --> 1:32:52.639 Those things that happened sometimes is like this isn't going well, 1:32:52.680 --> 1:32:54.240 and then your nerves get in the way and it's 1:32:54.280 --> 1:32:57.120 just keeps getting worse and worse, or at least that's 1:32:57.160 --> 1:32:59.040 what's happening inside your head. 1:33:00.000 --> 1:33:01.360 And I remember. 1:33:01.120 --> 1:33:04.920 Marishka was so lovely and just trying to like hold 1:33:04.960 --> 1:33:07.599 my hand and walk me through this, and Monica as well. 1:33:07.720 --> 1:33:09.880 She was She's like hey, She's like, let's take a 1:33:09.920 --> 1:33:12.760 step outside, and she takes a deep breath and she's like, 1:33:14.120 --> 1:33:16.760 this is my first time directing an episode on a 1:33:16.800 --> 1:33:19.519 TV show, And I was like, yeah, this is my 1:33:19.600 --> 1:33:24.360 first time acting and what she was like, Okay, great, 1:33:24.960 --> 1:33:27.559 let's just sit here and let's just do some breathing 1:33:27.920 --> 1:33:31.760 you and me, and she really like, I mean, it 1:33:31.840 --> 1:33:35.599 was incredible and she was so kind to do that 1:33:35.760 --> 1:33:39.720 because you know, time is money on set, and when 1:33:39.720 --> 1:33:45.519 you're wasting time, like it's annoying and it's costing people money. 1:33:45.640 --> 1:33:49.559 So she was really kind and patient with me. And 1:33:49.640 --> 1:33:52.280 of course I left that experience being like, I'm never 1:33:52.320 --> 1:33:55.719 gonna work in this town again, no one's ever gonna 1:33:55.800 --> 1:33:56.519 hire me again. 1:33:57.400 --> 1:33:58.599 And then I got a job. 1:33:59.000 --> 1:34:01.880 They're like two jobs later that I got another TV 1:34:02.000 --> 1:34:06.400 job was specifically because of my work on SVU, and 1:34:06.400 --> 1:34:09.280 then they wound up writing this like huge paragraph for 1:34:09.360 --> 1:34:11.160 me and like changing it from a co star to 1:34:11.200 --> 1:34:14.200 a guest star because they remembered me from SVU. 1:34:14.360 --> 1:34:17.240 So it was like, you know, wow, we're so hard 1:34:17.280 --> 1:34:18.440 on ourselves sometimes. 1:34:18.760 --> 1:34:22.320 Yeah, wow, that's that's really cool though, that like they 1:34:22.320 --> 1:34:25.360 took the time to not be like snap out of it, 1:34:25.439 --> 1:34:27.320 you know, they kind of like worked with you and 1:34:27.360 --> 1:34:28.720 like gave you some encouragement. 1:34:28.840 --> 1:34:29.759 That's really awesome. 1:34:31.040 --> 1:34:34.400 Well, speaking of also Marushka helping you out, so that 1:34:34.600 --> 1:34:38.479 scene where like you're with her and she gives you 1:34:38.600 --> 1:34:41.559 like the like I'm sorry that happened to you pity face. 1:34:42.000 --> 1:34:44.519 Yeah, how what does that feel like? 1:34:44.640 --> 1:34:46.519 I just feel like you're falling back and through it 1:34:46.760 --> 1:34:51.120 through a warmhole and time, Like how does it so funny? 1:34:51.160 --> 1:34:53.639 I like, the most compassionate person like in the world 1:34:53.720 --> 1:34:55.680 is looking at you like I'm sorry you went through that, 1:34:55.880 --> 1:34:56.080 you know. 1:34:56.320 --> 1:34:56.639 Yeah? 1:34:56.880 --> 1:35:00.720 Yeah, I mean she's really she's very generous. And it's 1:35:00.760 --> 1:35:04.920 so interesting because she has like very few lines, but 1:35:05.000 --> 1:35:09.799 I definitely remember in that scene, and I definitely remember 1:35:10.880 --> 1:35:16.160 feeling just like very her being very active and being 1:35:16.200 --> 1:35:22.040 with me and genuinely trying to comfort me. And I 1:35:22.080 --> 1:35:27.280 think that she's such a genuine person and that comes 1:35:27.320 --> 1:35:29.960 out in the role that she plays as well. 1:35:30.240 --> 1:35:31.639 Yeah, for sure. 1:35:32.000 --> 1:35:34.240 And how is the scene where you walk into the 1:35:34.280 --> 1:35:38.160 precinct that's like a jealous you know, not we're not jealous, 1:35:38.200 --> 1:35:39.760 but that's a fun moment to be able to like 1:35:39.840 --> 1:35:41.960 walk in and everyone's standing there and be like. 1:35:42.360 --> 1:35:46.080 You know, yeah, that was the fun I'm laughing because 1:35:46.720 --> 1:35:50.599 in that scene, like as we were rehearsing it, Iced 1:35:50.640 --> 1:35:52.839 Tea is in that scene and he's just a really 1:35:52.960 --> 1:35:58.120 funny dude and I think he has to eat a bagel. 1:35:58.160 --> 1:36:01.160 And I just thought of this this morning. He I 1:36:01.240 --> 1:36:02.680 remember him saying. 1:36:02.960 --> 1:36:06.400 Yes, this is probably the big bagel episode. Oh my god, Yeah, 1:36:06.520 --> 1:36:09.280 I took a photo of it. Wait I took a 1:36:09.280 --> 1:36:09.840 picture of it. 1:36:10.000 --> 1:36:13.360 Wait are you serious? Area, because he said he's. 1:36:13.240 --> 1:36:16.400 Never eaten a bagel, and like, right as you're walking in, 1:36:16.479 --> 1:36:18.519 he's holding a full bagel, but he hasn't taken a 1:36:18.560 --> 1:36:22.920 bite out of it. Oh, and everyone was flipping out, 1:36:22.960 --> 1:36:24.599 And this timeline actually works out. 1:36:24.760 --> 1:36:26.559 We would have to double check it. But everyone was. 1:36:26.560 --> 1:36:29.120 Like, boo, what the fuck? Why have when you hit 1:36:29.160 --> 1:36:31.200 it a bagel? And he was like, grow up, you losers. 1:36:31.240 --> 1:36:31.880 I don't want to. 1:36:32.200 --> 1:36:34.000 And I don't know if this was the episode where 1:36:34.040 --> 1:36:36.599 people are like Ice is gonna try a bagel? 1:36:37.040 --> 1:36:40.400 Like, wait a second, it's this is an ongoing thing 1:36:40.439 --> 1:36:41.920 with him that he hasn't had a bagel. 1:36:41.960 --> 1:36:42.920 That wasn't a lie. 1:36:43.000 --> 1:36:45.920 Okay, no head that he said that. 1:36:45.960 --> 1:36:49.160 To us and me and I think it was Kelly 1:36:49.320 --> 1:36:51.720 or Peter were all standing there and we were like, 1:36:51.880 --> 1:36:54.120 you've never had a bagel. I didn't know that that 1:36:54.200 --> 1:36:54.920 was a thing before. 1:36:54.920 --> 1:36:57.080 Oh, you were there live, you were there as the 1:36:57.160 --> 1:36:59.879 story broke. Maybe I don't. 1:36:59.720 --> 1:37:02.080 Know, Maybe there was definitely I don't know, was that 1:37:02.200 --> 1:37:05.040 part of the original story. There's definitely a conversation happening 1:37:05.080 --> 1:37:07.479 with all of us, and everyone's in shock that a 1:37:07.560 --> 1:37:10.960 man who I think grew up in New York City 1:37:11.080 --> 1:37:14.880 right had never had a bagel, and we were just like. 1:37:14.960 --> 1:37:17.519 What are you You've never had a bagel? 1:37:17.800 --> 1:37:20.200 And he's like, he has this thing in his hands, 1:37:20.640 --> 1:37:23.080 and then I think he complained because it was cinnamon 1:37:23.200 --> 1:37:25.280 raisin too, or there was something else. 1:37:25.320 --> 1:37:27.519 Yeah, it definitely looked like it had stuff in it, 1:37:27.640 --> 1:37:28.160 that bagel. 1:37:28.400 --> 1:37:31.120 Yeah, yeah, yeah, But I don't know that he actually 1:37:31.200 --> 1:37:33.040 ever had any of it. 1:37:33.120 --> 1:37:36.000 I think he actually is a West Coast rapper, but 1:37:36.200 --> 1:37:38.840 he has at this point spent at least twenty plus 1:37:38.960 --> 1:37:41.880 years living in New York being on this show. 1:37:42.720 --> 1:37:44.519 But I think what happened was. 1:37:45.040 --> 1:37:47.280 During conversations with people like you, like the one that 1:37:47.320 --> 1:37:50.120 you're talking about, he started realizing, is this weird that 1:37:50.160 --> 1:37:52.120 I've never had a bagel? And then he said it 1:37:52.160 --> 1:37:54.599 on Twitter, I've never had a bagel, and that's when 1:37:54.600 --> 1:37:56.600 people went nuts. So I think you got in on 1:37:56.600 --> 1:37:59.719 the ground floor on this this whole yeah, because. 1:37:59.560 --> 1:38:01.960 There was definitely a lot of shock when he said it. 1:38:02.000 --> 1:38:04.160 There was just a lot of like, what, how is 1:38:04.200 --> 1:38:08.479 that possible that you can you can be an American 1:38:08.479 --> 1:38:10.320 person and never had a bagel before. 1:38:10.720 --> 1:38:13.439 Yeah, I was just in New York like last week 1:38:13.479 --> 1:38:16.679 from Halloween for a week and I maybe had four. 1:38:20.000 --> 1:38:22.960 Essentially when you come from LA you guys have Mexican food, 1:38:23.040 --> 1:38:24.680 but we have good bagels. 1:38:24.960 --> 1:38:25.400 Okay. 1:38:25.560 --> 1:38:29.120 Wow, I can't believe you were there for actual bagel coverage. 1:38:29.160 --> 1:38:31.040 This is wow amazing. Okay. 1:38:32.320 --> 1:38:36.120 So this character is like loosely based on Christine blasi 1:38:36.200 --> 1:38:40.360 Ford and like it's crazy because like her testimony was 1:38:40.400 --> 1:38:42.680 the end of September, this episode. 1:38:42.240 --> 1:38:43.759 Aired the beginning of November. 1:38:43.800 --> 1:38:46.519 You must have shot it in like October or something. 1:38:47.439 --> 1:38:54.479 Yes, And actually the audition came up to maybe not 1:38:54.520 --> 1:38:58.320 even two days, maybe twenty four hours after that story 1:38:58.439 --> 1:39:03.160 broke after she said she came out and said Brett 1:39:03.240 --> 1:39:06.720 Kavanaugh did this to me when we were kids, Like 1:39:06.800 --> 1:39:09.120 twenty four not more than forty eight hours later is 1:39:09.160 --> 1:39:10.479 when I got that audition. 1:39:11.400 --> 1:39:15.440 Yeah, that show knows how to rip from the headlines quickly. 1:39:15.720 --> 1:39:16.479 Very quickly. 1:39:16.720 --> 1:39:19.599 Yeah, And it was very much I was told from 1:39:19.640 --> 1:39:22.880 like the very start and was told along the way 1:39:22.920 --> 1:39:26.120 by several people like this is the Christine Blasi Ford 1:39:26.200 --> 1:39:27.760 of this episode. 1:39:29.120 --> 1:39:29.599 That case. 1:39:29.640 --> 1:39:31.639 I remember I was in Santranchi, Like I remember where 1:39:31.680 --> 1:39:33.960 I was throughout that whole thing, And it was Karen 1:39:34.000 --> 1:39:35.760 and I when we were discussing this, she said, like, 1:39:36.040 --> 1:39:37.280 this was a low point. 1:39:37.479 --> 1:39:39.879 This was like right before midterm. 1:39:40.160 --> 1:39:43.559 It was just a really sad time and it was 1:39:43.560 --> 1:39:45.760 such a letdown for everyone. And I was just really 1:39:45.800 --> 1:39:49.519 emotionally fucked from that case. Like do you remember the 1:39:49.640 --> 1:39:52.400 vibe on set or how you felt, and like just 1:39:52.520 --> 1:39:53.880 any comment on that. 1:39:54.600 --> 1:40:00.360 Yeah, I mean that I think this is part. 1:40:00.439 --> 1:40:05.519 I felt a huge responsibility to tell that story and 1:40:06.000 --> 1:40:12.479 to tell it well because it did really shake me also, 1:40:12.720 --> 1:40:16.680 and it was it wasn't just that it happened. It 1:40:16.800 --> 1:40:22.120 was the fact that there was a huge a number 1:40:22.120 --> 1:40:27.200 of people who wouldn't give her story credit at all, 1:40:27.680 --> 1:40:32.320 and that. 1:40:30.360 --> 1:40:31.559 That really pissed me off. 1:40:31.760 --> 1:40:37.559 And hearing her, I mean I watched her speak and 1:40:38.000 --> 1:40:42.320 at the hearing, and I mean, you couldn't not be 1:40:42.720 --> 1:40:48.000 touched by that and affected by it, and then against. 1:40:47.560 --> 1:40:50.720 What he had to say too, which was so infuriating. 1:40:50.800 --> 1:40:53.280 I mean that type of dude. 1:40:53.320 --> 1:40:55.479 I just feel like we all know that guy, and 1:40:55.520 --> 1:40:57.920 the fact that he still won and that he still 1:40:58.000 --> 1:41:01.759 has a seat and he's a Supreme Court justice makes 1:41:01.800 --> 1:41:02.679 me so angry. 1:41:04.960 --> 1:41:08.280 I think at the point that we started. 1:41:07.720 --> 1:41:11.960 Shooting this episode, there was definitely this feeling like I 1:41:11.960 --> 1:41:14.920 think when people were like, you're the Christine Blasi Ford 1:41:14.920 --> 1:41:18.400 of this episode, there was something behind it. They weren't 1:41:18.439 --> 1:41:21.800 just saying that as like a factual like this, No, 1:41:21.960 --> 1:41:26.000 it was women who were telling me that, and it 1:41:26.200 --> 1:41:29.200 was I think because they were feeling the weight of 1:41:29.240 --> 1:41:35.240 it too, and so it was it was said in 1:41:35.320 --> 1:41:37.760 this sort of way of maybe like you have this 1:41:37.960 --> 1:41:40.640 responsibility or maybe that's how I interpreted it. 1:41:41.200 --> 1:41:43.800 Yeah, And like we always talk on the podcast about how, like, 1:41:43.840 --> 1:41:46.280 you know, SVU is a fantasy world. So it's like, 1:41:46.360 --> 1:41:48.639 at least it's like a fantasy of a justice system 1:41:48.640 --> 1:41:50.760 that most women would like to see, you know. And 1:41:50.840 --> 1:41:53.479 so I feel like, at least in this episode, that 1:41:53.560 --> 1:41:55.799 guy's never going to be a politician, like that guy's 1:41:55.960 --> 1:41:59.000 you know, probably going to jail. So we got some 1:41:59.280 --> 1:42:03.080 justice for this this ada in Brooklyn, right. 1:42:03.240 --> 1:42:05.519 I think I even maybe had commented something when I 1:42:05.560 --> 1:42:07.960 had posted about it when after the show had aired, 1:42:08.040 --> 1:42:10.479 or just when it was about to I had maybe 1:42:10.479 --> 1:42:13.160 posted something like you know this has a better. 1:42:13.040 --> 1:42:16.760 Ending, hmmm, yeah, and you said something about like no 1:42:16.800 --> 1:42:19.000 one was a lot of people weren't giving credit to 1:42:19.080 --> 1:42:21.639 her story. And I remember seeing something that has affected 1:42:21.680 --> 1:42:25.800 me since, where like just imagining any young people who 1:42:25.840 --> 1:42:29.240 have been assaulted and then hearing their parents talk shit 1:42:29.320 --> 1:42:31.400 about her or not believe her in front of them, 1:42:31.479 --> 1:42:35.000 and like how that has influenced a whole younger generation 1:42:35.160 --> 1:42:38.000 to not come forward because of the way she was treated. 1:42:38.560 --> 1:42:41.080 And that makes me so mad too. 1:42:41.680 --> 1:42:44.960 Right, I mean it was so incredibly brave of her too. 1:42:45.640 --> 1:42:47.679 They were getting death threats. She had to move. 1:42:48.479 --> 1:42:52.920 Yeah, she lost her job, Like right, she was so terrified. 1:42:52.960 --> 1:42:56.120 This is like the last thing that but she had 1:42:56.120 --> 1:43:01.160 to She was so scared. But she had to overcome 1:43:01.439 --> 1:43:06.840 that because her speaking out to her was was way 1:43:06.880 --> 1:43:09.000 more important she felt at the time. 1:43:09.840 --> 1:43:11.720 Yeah, because she probably knew she was not the only 1:43:11.800 --> 1:43:14.000 person like there, you know, once you get away with it, 1:43:15.240 --> 1:43:17.120 let's stopped again. 1:43:17.840 --> 1:43:21.080 But we'll switch directions. Yeah, to lighten things up. 1:43:23.240 --> 1:43:30.960 Obsessed with your jewelry, it's beautiful, My standard of jewelry 1:43:31.000 --> 1:43:33.599 I always say is like, would Jennifer Aniston wear it? 1:43:34.200 --> 1:43:35.680 And I think she would wear it? 1:43:36.320 --> 1:43:37.080 Oh, thank you. 1:43:37.600 --> 1:43:40.519 Yeah, I saw some Opal pieces. I'm an Opal fan. 1:43:41.479 --> 1:43:42.960 Nice I love opals too. 1:43:43.000 --> 1:43:52.160 Yeah, I heard they're powerful, Yes, extremely powerful. Oh my gosh. 1:43:52.200 --> 1:43:53.120 She was so fun. 1:43:53.560 --> 1:43:57.400 And also if anybody's interested in her jewelry, it is 1:43:57.520 --> 1:44:02.080 called head found and her Instagram will obviously tag her 1:44:02.080 --> 1:44:04.760 on our Instagram, but it's basical b U E s 1:44:05.040 --> 1:44:07.559 icl and you can link to a lot of her jewelry, 1:44:07.560 --> 1:44:09.080 which we thought was very beautiful. 1:44:11.200 --> 1:44:12.920 Any thoughts on Hell's Kitchen? 1:44:13.960 --> 1:44:15.760 I mean, we're trying to go into the new year 1:44:15.880 --> 1:44:21.880 positive and I don't know, but it is just, you know, 1:44:22.000 --> 1:44:25.439 we look at history and we're like, how did things happen? 1:44:25.560 --> 1:44:29.320 And we are slowly sliding into I think, you know, 1:44:29.400 --> 1:44:32.760 a bad worst terrible moments. I don't know what's going 1:44:32.840 --> 1:44:36.320 to happen. But the Kavanaugh and the way victims are 1:44:36.360 --> 1:44:38.680 treated of sexual assault really add to it, and the 1:44:38.720 --> 1:44:41.360 farce of the investigation and what bullshit it was, and 1:44:41.680 --> 1:44:45.719 that he's serving on the court, and it's it's scary 1:44:45.800 --> 1:44:48.479 and fucked up. And they always say like they make 1:44:48.600 --> 1:44:51.920 us tired on purpose. So then we're like so used 1:44:51.960 --> 1:44:55.360 to the obscure and wild behavior that then Kyle Rittenhouse's 1:44:55.479 --> 1:44:58.720 judge can read a cookie catalog like and then we 1:44:58.880 --> 1:45:00.880 keep on moving and we're just like at a bar 1:45:01.000 --> 1:45:02.920 having fun, and then all this is happening and I 1:45:03.000 --> 1:45:04.160 don't really know what to say. 1:45:04.200 --> 1:45:05.880 It's just like scary and terrible. 1:45:07.439 --> 1:45:10.640 Yeah, And you know, I think for everybody that might 1:45:10.680 --> 1:45:13.320 be listening that works in the restaurant industry, you know, 1:45:13.479 --> 1:45:16.040 you don't have to like put your head down and 1:45:16.160 --> 1:45:17.840 you can definitely try to get. 1:45:17.760 --> 1:45:18.840 But you do. I mean, that's the thing. 1:45:18.840 --> 1:45:20.680 It's like we can all tell everyone like speak up, 1:45:20.760 --> 1:45:24.080 do it, but we we can't guarantee what anyone's gonna 1:45:24.240 --> 1:45:24.759 That's true. 1:45:24.880 --> 1:45:27.240 Yeah, everybody has their own and everybody has their own 1:45:27.280 --> 1:45:29.880 situation where like quitting might not be an option and stuff, 1:45:29.880 --> 1:45:32.800 but hopefully, hopefully you have a manager that you can 1:45:32.840 --> 1:45:35.000 go to or if it's your manager, of someone above 1:45:35.040 --> 1:45:37.360 them to at least give you temporary relief if it's 1:45:37.400 --> 1:45:39.640 not like legal relief. You know, like you don't have 1:45:39.640 --> 1:45:41.599 to like press charges, but you can like get someone 1:45:41.800 --> 1:45:43.360 to not work with the same shift as. 1:45:43.240 --> 1:45:46.840 You or whatever try to get some help. Yeah, it's 1:45:46.840 --> 1:45:48.680 such bullshit. Did we talk about this on this or 1:45:48.720 --> 1:45:52.280 somewhere else? But like when sometimes people are like, why 1:45:52.280 --> 1:45:53.439 do you perform at the cellar? 1:45:53.560 --> 1:45:55.240 What about Louie? Why do you do there? 1:45:55.280 --> 1:45:57.559 They perform, or like people have been doing that for 1:45:57.600 --> 1:45:59.800 the people that are at the Netflix as a joke 1:46:00.200 --> 1:46:03.840 of all. Someone was like, oh, you're all you all 1:46:03.840 --> 1:46:05.759 hate Chappelle and now you're going to do a festival 1:46:05.760 --> 1:46:08.080 a Chappelle And it's like, why are you asking. 1:46:09.360 --> 1:46:11.240 These people to leave their jobs? Do you know what 1:46:11.320 --> 1:46:11.599 I mean? 1:46:11.680 --> 1:46:13.800 It's like, why should I not be performing at a 1:46:13.880 --> 1:46:18.040 venue making money because they have a fucking creep there? 1:46:18.080 --> 1:46:19.360 Like what does that have to do with me? Like 1:46:19.479 --> 1:46:22.240 asking people to like not take opportunities and. 1:46:22.240 --> 1:46:22.880 Not make money. 1:46:22.960 --> 1:46:25.240 Yeah, take it up with annoying, Yeah, take it up 1:46:25.240 --> 1:46:28.519 with Netflix, like Chappelle should leave if anyone like to ask, 1:46:28.680 --> 1:46:31.040 like working comics who are like, oh fuck y, I 1:46:31.120 --> 1:46:32.519 need this gig. 1:46:32.920 --> 1:46:36.200 To not do it for morality is annoying. Yeah. 1:46:36.240 --> 1:46:38.280 I don't know if that's fully connected to this episode, 1:46:38.280 --> 1:46:41.000 but it's the way that I feel sometimes when people 1:46:41.000 --> 1:46:43.120 were like, then, what why'd you do that? And it's like, 1:46:43.160 --> 1:46:45.000 what am I supposed to do? I can't. 1:46:45.080 --> 1:46:47.280 It's like, well, I'm sure that, like, no, it does 1:46:47.320 --> 1:46:49.240 connect because I'm sure like in the restaurant world, people 1:46:49.280 --> 1:46:51.360 are like, oh, you're working at a Batali restaurant, Like, 1:46:51.479 --> 1:46:53.160 isn't he such a nightmare, And it's like, yeah, but 1:46:53.200 --> 1:46:55.280 I'm also bringing home like money that I need for 1:46:55.400 --> 1:46:58.360 my family and my life, and you know, like there's 1:46:58.439 --> 1:47:00.000 there's just nothing's black and white. 1:47:00.120 --> 1:47:04.719 You know. Yeah, listen, I don't know. We talked a lot. 1:47:04.800 --> 1:47:07.880 We could just keep it a quick send off, right, 1:47:08.000 --> 1:47:10.879 I mean, you guys know what, Yes, we hate everyone 1:47:10.920 --> 1:47:13.320 and everything except for the people we like. 1:47:13.840 --> 1:47:16.760 Cool, But I did want to for this week's what 1:47:16.760 --> 1:47:19.920 would Sister Peg Do, which is our weekly segment where 1:47:19.960 --> 1:47:23.360 we direct you guys towards a resource or a book 1:47:23.479 --> 1:47:25.400 or an article or something that'll give you more information 1:47:25.400 --> 1:47:28.120 about what we touched on in today's episode. I've been 1:47:28.160 --> 1:47:30.080 hearing about this organization for a really long time, and 1:47:30.120 --> 1:47:32.840 I think it fits in here with the harassment at 1:47:32.880 --> 1:47:35.680 restaurants and stuff, since literally the numbers are staggering that 1:47:35.840 --> 1:47:37.960 ninety percent of like women that work in the food 1:47:38.000 --> 1:47:40.040 service industry are harassed at some point, and a lot 1:47:40.040 --> 1:47:44.320 of times from customers. So this website, I'm sorry. This 1:47:44.439 --> 1:47:49.719 organization is called hollaback and it's www dot ihollaback dot 1:47:49.840 --> 1:47:53.200 org and it's a global people powered movement to end 1:47:53.200 --> 1:47:55.599 harassment in all its forms. And it does a lot 1:47:55.640 --> 1:47:59.599 of bystander training because like there's a lot of times 1:47:59.640 --> 1:48:01.920 where I I'm in a situation where I'm like, sometimes 1:48:01.920 --> 1:48:03.680 I do jump in, but sometimes I'm there and I'm like, 1:48:03.680 --> 1:48:05.760 I don't know. You got to trust your gut, but 1:48:05.840 --> 1:48:08.160 you don't know where how to jump in, how to 1:48:08.200 --> 1:48:11.920 make someone feel more safe. And they have online bystander 1:48:12.240 --> 1:48:14.519 training on this website that are. 1:48:14.400 --> 1:48:15.320 Really really helpful. 1:48:16.840 --> 1:48:18.880 And since two thousand and five they've worked on ending 1:48:19.000 --> 1:48:22.080 gender based harassment in the public space aka street harassment, 1:48:22.160 --> 1:48:24.360 which I think can extend to places of you know, 1:48:24.439 --> 1:48:28.760 public places like restaurants and transportation in the workplace. 1:48:29.160 --> 1:48:30.880 So go to ihallaback dot org. 1:48:31.240 --> 1:48:34.400 And obviously all of these are as usual in our 1:48:34.479 --> 1:48:36.519 stories the day of the release of the episode, and 1:48:36.560 --> 1:48:40.360 then in our WWSPD highlight on our Instagram. 1:48:40.439 --> 1:48:42.760 I do love that they went cool with their name. 1:48:43.120 --> 1:48:45.000 They're like, you know, what's going to get the youth involved. 1:48:45.040 --> 1:48:49.520 Halla Back, Halla Back Girl. And next week. 1:48:49.439 --> 1:48:53.360 Please join us in watching the episode name Season seven, 1:48:53.520 --> 1:48:54.400 episode seven. 1:48:54.479 --> 1:48:56.720 You'll know I will have something to say about that. 1:48:57.680 --> 1:49:02.759 A Hulu as always, Peacock VPN, sticks, your local library, 1:49:02.880 --> 1:49:05.400 all the jazz, or don't watch it at all, and 1:49:05.960 --> 1:49:08.439 we'll be here chatting away. Thanks so much of such 1:49:08.439 --> 1:49:11.840 a beautiful new year, and I hope you have a 1:49:12.000 --> 1:49:15.439 nice night that you don't put too many expectations on 1:49:16.160 --> 1:49:19.280 and all good stuff. 1:49:19.960 --> 1:49:23.920 Yeah, have an amazing night and we'll talk to you 1:49:23.920 --> 1:49:25.080 guys in twenty twenty two. 1:49:26.520 --> 1:49:39.040 Bye bye. That's Messed Up is an exactly right production. 1:49:39.439 --> 1:49:41.240 If you have compliments you'd like to give us or 1:49:41.280 --> 1:49:43.519 episodes you'd like us to cover, shoot us an email 1:49:43.560 --> 1:49:46.000 at tho'ts Messed Up Pod at gmail dot com. 1:49:46.160 --> 1:49:49.000 Follow the podcast on Instagram at That's Messed Up Pod 1:49:49.120 --> 1:49:51.920 and on Twitter at messed Up Pod, and follow us 1:49:51.920 --> 1:49:53.639 personally at karaclink and. 1:49:53.680 --> 1:49:54.559 At glitter Cheese. 1:49:54.960 --> 1:49:57.360 As always, please see our show notes for sources and 1:49:57.400 --> 1:49:58.040 more information. 1:49:58.439 --> 1:50:01.479 Thank you so much to our producer Annalie Nelson and 1:50:01.600 --> 1:50:05.400 to our mixing engineer RYO baum Anton Henry Kaperski for our. 1:50:05.320 --> 1:50:08.439 Theme song, and to Carly Jean Andrews for our artwork. 1:50:08.600 --> 1:50:12.160 Thank you to our executive producers Georgia Hardstark, Karen Kilgareff, 1:50:12.240 --> 1:50:15.080 Daniel Kramer, and everyone at Exactly Right Media. 1:50:15.160 --> 1:50:18.559 Listen, subscribe, and leave us a review on Apple Podcast, Stitcher, 1:50:18.800 --> 1:50:20.480 or wherever you get your podcasts. 1:50:21.120 --> 1:50:21.679 Dun, dun,