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Speaker 1: Look you boys were what today for?

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Speaker 2: He is a feast for the Capitol. Fie the cook

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Speaker 2: is in the kitchen, looks.

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Speaker 3: Down the sideline. He's got kick Kade.

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Speaker 2: For a twenty three yard touchdown and it's intercepted.

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Speaker 3: Jumping over to the air's Bedford.

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Speaker 1: This the One Bills Live presented by Kalida.

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Speaker 3: Health Thursday edition of One Bill's Live. Chris Brown Steve

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Speaker 3: Tasker with you as uh.

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Speaker 4: We sit exactly one month away from the twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: six NFL Draft, which will be coming to you live

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Speaker 4: from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. So uh, and our topic of discussion

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Speaker 4: deals with the draft as it pertains to the Bills.

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Speaker 3: We'll get to that and just a little bit.

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Speaker 5: But yeah.

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Speaker 4: NCAA tournament starts up again tonight. Sweet sixteen games begin

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Speaker 4: this evening, more on Friday to determine the Elite eight,

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Speaker 4: which will then play on Saturday and Sunday.

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Speaker 5: Eight.

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Speaker 4: Getting down to it, Yeah, down to it.

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Speaker 5: First Weekend's awesome. This one not so much.

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Speaker 3: You don't like it.

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Speaker 5: You're out Here's I'm not out. I'm just saying it's

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Speaker 5: it's fun. When you got like high point in the thing.

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Speaker 4: You know you got it not a lot of underdogs left,

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Speaker 4: you know, you got it's all like top four or

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Speaker 4: five seeds at this point.

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Speaker 5: Forty eight of the team, is it fit? Forty eight teams? Yeah,

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Speaker 5: forty eight teams are gone, and you have forty eight

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Speaker 5: fan bases that could not possibly care less about the

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Speaker 5: remainder of that.

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Speaker 3: Well, so it's hard to dry it.

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Speaker 5: So for a casual like me, it's hard to jump

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Speaker 5: on that bandwagon when nobody else is.

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Speaker 4: You don't have you know, Loyola of Chicago, that's right,

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Speaker 4: still hanging around.

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Speaker 5: You don't have Butler, you don't have Valparizo. Yeah, all

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Speaker 5: that you like to that's a nice pull, right, well

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Speaker 5: for good job, So you know you don't have those,

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Speaker 5: And it's and now it's you know, and I get it.

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Speaker 5: There's some teams in there a little bit unexpected, I guess,

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Speaker 5: I mean checked my brain.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not terribly surprising.

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Speaker 5: So I'm tell me who gets the final four and all?

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Speaker 5: Maybe I'll watch in two weeks.

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Speaker 3: Fair enough.

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Speaker 5: I got stuff going on this weekend.

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Speaker 3: You got stuff, Yeah, important stuff apparently, like.

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Speaker 5: A quick trip to the city.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I get it.

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Speaker 5: So you know, I got a life.

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Speaker 3: That's fine.

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Speaker 5: Shocking, isn't may sound.

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Speaker 3: I don't have any time for the NC. I got

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Speaker 3: no time for that.

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Speaker 5: I get it. You know, the weather's here, let's go.

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Speaker 5: I'm uh yeah, so I'm I'm very happy for all

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Speaker 5: those teams. Don't get me wrong. I don't want to

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Speaker 5: disparage anybody about this not being a huge life event

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Speaker 4: But yeah, there, you will be able very easily this

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Speaker 4: weekend in New York to find a bar. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 4: st Johnny Saint John's game seven pm on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna be We're sorry. Friday, it's tomorrow night, seven pm. Oh,

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Speaker 3: it's tomorrow night, Tomorrow night seven ten pm.

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Speaker 5: You might have to go to a watch party.

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Speaker 3: I got a couple of places, do you. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: text them to me.

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Speaker 5: I think I will.

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Speaker 2: Big.

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Speaker 5: It's a big family thing, right so, and we have family,

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Speaker 5: so you have extended family comes coming in from all

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Speaker 3: No, they're not playing Kansas this time, they're playing Duke.

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Speaker 5: I can get on board with hate being a Duke

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Speaker 5: cater for a weekend, for a weekend. Do me a favor,

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Speaker 4: We have to go around the NFL, Steve, because there

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Speaker 4: is there are some interesting.

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Speaker 5: Developers, some doings around the league.

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Speaker 3: Journing the NFL Referees Association. So on Wednesday.

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Speaker 4: On Wednesday, we told you about the bylaw proposal by

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Speaker 4: the Competition Committee that would empower the league's officiating department

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Speaker 4: and it explains why the league took that step in

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Speaker 4: advance of their owners meetings next week. Ongoing labor negotiations

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Speaker 4: between the NFL and NFL Referees Association, according to ESPN,

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Speaker 4: broke off earlier than scheduled this week as the sides

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Speaker 4: after Wednesday morning session they barely got started. The nflra's

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Speaker 4: collective bargaining agreement expires May thirty first with the league,

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Speaker 4: and concern about the distance between the sides has prompted

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Speaker 4: the NFL to begin the process of vetting and hiring

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Speaker 4: replacement officials for this coming season. The NFLRA reportedly refused

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Speaker 3: Now this sounds counterintuitive.

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Speaker 4: NFLRA executive Director Scott Green said in a statement that

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Speaker 4: he made a counter proposal that the NFL rejected.

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Speaker 3: Quote.

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Speaker 4: Today, the NFLRA negotiating team showed up to what was

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Speaker 5: I think it was. Yeah, it sounds like from what

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Speaker 5: you just read that from Scott Green's statement, that they

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you have no author is why are we here? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: The NFL has offered a ten percent increase in game

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Speaker 4: The league is also seeking agreements to improve officiating performance,

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Speaker 4: in part by reading erecting annual bonus money toward high

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Speaker 4: some items that are on the wish list of both

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Speaker 3: Sign me up? Where do I sign?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? I get that.

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Speaker 4: I realize there's probably some fine print there, but right,

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Speaker 5: I would also I would also anticipate that there would

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Speaker 5: And I don't know this because it wasn't said here.

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Speaker 5: bigger commitment you have, you got to be do more

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Speaker 4: Gets well, it sounds like it's a performance based bonus

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Speaker 4: to some degree, I guess it's like the performance base

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Speaker 3: So do better.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, easy to say, not easy to do.

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Speaker 5: And what are the I mean, what's it looked like

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Speaker 5: Like what happens if one team loves this guy's the

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Speaker 3: That could be a problem.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be very subjective, and I'll doubt that for

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Speaker 4: thing for me, Steve. As we know, NFL officials are

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Speaker 4: not full time officials. They have full time jobs outside

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Speaker 5: That's right.

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Speaker 4: They can hang out and wait. It's not like NFL

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Speaker 3: Fifty over here, so I can hang out and wait

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Speaker 3: So part of the now it may what it may.

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Speaker 5: Do is be a heavier lift for the eye and

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Speaker 3: Right, So just some data for you.

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Speaker 4: And this was courtesy of NFL Refstad's a good follow

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Speaker 4: on Twitter if the NFL does higher replacement officials for

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Speaker 4: this season. Here are some of the noteworthy statistics from

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Speaker 4: the twenty twelve experience. Home teams had a significantly higher

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Speaker 4: So it's logical to believe that inexperienced officiating is intimidated

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Speaker 1: So.

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Speaker 3: If we have replacement officials.

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Speaker 4: Again this season could be an advantage for teams with

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Speaker 5: Round ahead of it there.

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Speaker 4: One other stat from the twenty twelve replacement officiating, defensive

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Speaker 5: Four games is twenty five percent. Yeah, and they did

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Speaker 3: It was enough to convince the league to say, you know,

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Speaker 3: This thing's got to end quick.

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Speaker 5: Bad sign.

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Speaker 6: But I'm telling you, man, they if they'll bring in

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Speaker 4: You were talking about the interplanetary pandemic that still got

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Speaker 5: That's right, intergalactic pandemic in twenty twenty. The intergalactic pandemic

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Speaker 5: But I'll say this, these officials, they're all guys who have,

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Speaker 3: Why are you here?

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Speaker 5: You know you're having this meeting. You could have done

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Speaker 5: it with an email and no donuts either, And no donuts.

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Speaker 5: The coffee stinks and my chair is uncomfortable. I'm getting

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Speaker 5: out of here. Let's go. I'm you're going to.

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Speaker 3: Get a donut?

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Speaker 7: Dang it.

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Speaker 5: This is yeah, that is call us.

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Speaker 3: When you're ready to negotiate, what are you gonna do.

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Speaker 5: For a day and a half if you've got guys

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what are you doing? So that mean it's it's

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, and and the NFL. I mean, let's face the NFL,

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Speaker 3: They have plenty of time, they don't care before they

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Speaker 5: The guys that run the NFL have been through this

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Speaker 3: Know a thousand times.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, like they're not talking any think.

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Speaker 3: They became billionaires in the first right.

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Speaker 5: So they don't. You You don't scare those guys. The

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Speaker 5: only thing that moves that needle is a big fat lever.

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Speaker 3: Or a deadline.

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Speaker 5: They don't have any kind of lever to pull right now.

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Speaker 4: ESPN is also reporting that Alabama quarterback prospect Ty Simpson

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Speaker 3: Steve and that second pick, in case.

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Speaker 4: You're wondering, is pick sixteen that they got in the

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Speaker 5: I think whatever player they've got at thirty four pegged

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Speaker 5: year on Ty Simpson's contract. If he doesn't, it is

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Speaker 5: a valid point fifty year cost control. I'm ty Simpson's

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Speaker 3: It wasn't a great le.

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Speaker 5: Let me just say this. The best name on that list,

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Speaker 3: And some other names that will forever be lost in Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there was some bad, bad names on that list.

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Speaker 5: There was to counter that Tannehill was the top of

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Speaker 4: To counter that, think about, you know, the last couple

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Speaker 3: Had sixty one, bo Nicks who had sixty four.

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Speaker 4: Those guys adapted well to the NFL. They had seen

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Speaker 5: Yeah better anyway.

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Speaker 3: But yes, Ty Simpson is not that fifteen career starts.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I just.

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Speaker 3: But we also know this. The Jets are master Jets

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Speaker 4: Other news around the NFL concerns Puka Nikua because a

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Speaker 4: Nkua alleging the Rams wide receiver made an unprovoked anti

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Speaker 3: She is of Jewish heritage.

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Speaker 4: The woman filed for a temporary restraining owner, but that

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Speaker 4: That does not sound great. Joe Flacco isn't disappointed about

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Speaker 3: Here's a direct quote. Believe me.

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Speaker 4: I wish I was the guy somewhere, Flacco said. And

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Speaker 4: that guy. Flaco said, quote not being one of those

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Speaker 5: I can't he's still playing and yeah, but he knows

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Speaker 5: You can't convince me that who whoever the guy is

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Speaker 5: I mean that Joe, you don't think that that's at

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Speaker 3: They have Jacoby take.

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Speaker 5: Joe Flacko over Bryce Young because of his arm strength,

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Speaker 5: his ability to put it inaccurately, is his understanding. The

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Speaker 3: You gotta you gotta have some.

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Speaker 4: Physical Arizona is Jacoby Brissett and Gardner minshew. I rest

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Speaker 4: But Joe Flacco would at least be a sideways move

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Speaker 3: Man's early in January in.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't. Don't put it past him. He may be

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Speaker 4: He may oh sorry, it was week fifteen, Week eighteen,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he might be right there.

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Speaker 3: That's the other element.

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Speaker 3: I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and.

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Speaker 3: We should note.

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Speaker 5: that's what we're all. It's so frustrating about him. But

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Speaker 5: I think that's compelling. You know, what is Andy Reid

446
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Speaker 5: gonna do with that guy?

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Speaker 4: He's gonna have run around a lot, that's my yes,

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Speaker 4: if he has to play him well, and they're hoping

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Speaker 4: they don't have.

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Speaker 5: To, that's I don't know if Andy's gonna have him

451
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Speaker 5: run around a lot or he's gonna wish he didn't

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Speaker 5: run around a lot, that's the real question.

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Speaker 3: It's a matter of semantics. So that is around the NFL.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, some interesting stuff today that I'm really intrigued by.

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Speaker 3: The referee CBA talks.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's May thirty first, is when the current labor

457
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Speaker 4: agreement expires.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but then who cares why at.

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Speaker 4: The expiration of the labor agreement doesn't matter as much

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Speaker 4: as week one of the regular season.

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Speaker 5: They got June, July, August, and September.

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Speaker 3: Well a little bit of September.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's interesting and it's not at all. It's not nothing.

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Speaker 5: This isn't like I mean, if they go with replacement

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Speaker 5: officials in the run up to the season, the league

466
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Speaker 5: will put out a mandate to all their head coaches

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Speaker 5: and their their head coaches and their gms and the ownership,

468
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Speaker 5: and they'll say, listen, get these replacement officials. Get them in,

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Speaker 5: start getting them acclimated, Start talking to them, getting them

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Speaker 5: up to speed, Start having them watch practice, do some

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Speaker 5: scrimmages with these guys. Let these guys go to your

472
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Speaker 5: joint practices. Let's go get them up to We don't

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Speaker 5: want them, we want them to disappear. I mean, they'll

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Speaker 5: do it, man.

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Speaker 3: I know, I know it's been done before.

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Speaker 5: So it's been done before, and this way there, and

477
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Speaker 5: now they're set up way better than they were in

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Speaker 5: twenty twelve when it was a little bit outraged.

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Speaker 3: HPS, more technology to work, that's right.

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Speaker 5: Well, that's right.

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Speaker 3: So that's around. The NFL.

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Speaker 4: Topic of discussion for you today concerns the Bills and

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Speaker 4: the draft. How would you divide the bills seven draft

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Speaker 4: choices between offense and defense. I think most people would

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Speaker 4: agree that Buffalo's defense needs a little bit more attention

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Speaker 4: in terms of reinforcements, But.

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Speaker 3: How do you divvy it up.

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Speaker 4: We realize that most gms in the league don't approach

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Speaker 4: the draft that way, That's not how they approach it.

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Speaker 3: But what's your split?

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Speaker 4: How are you're dividing these seven draft choices between offense

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Speaker 4: and defense to best help the Bills.

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Speaker 3: You let us know it One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 4: That's where you send us your comments on Twitter or

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Speaker 4: x whatever you call the app these days, and we

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Speaker 4: will get to some of those comments when we return

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Speaker 4: here on One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 7: Stay with us.

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Speaker 4: How will you divide the bill seven draft choices between

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Speaker 4: offense and defense?

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Speaker 3: You have the choice to do it. What's your breakdown there?

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Speaker 4: And we're going to go right to the tweet sheet

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Speaker 4: to get some thoughts from you on that very subject.

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Speaker 4: But chime into One Bill's Live at your leisure. Be

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Speaker 4: happy to read your thoughts here as well. Jacob, who

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Speaker 4: leads us off, says, would you trade up for wide receiver?

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Speaker 4: I think using our number one and a future draft

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Speaker 4: pick to move up is warranted to get the guy

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Speaker 4: you want. Okay, so much for the breakdown. He's just

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Speaker 4: he's sacrificing draft capital to get a wide receiver. I

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Speaker 4: think there's a decent chance there's still some decent receiver

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Speaker 4: talent to choose from at twenty six. If you stay put,

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Speaker 4: if there's a run and it happens in front of you,

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Speaker 4: well then maybe you think differently.

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Speaker 5: Why is yeah?

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Speaker 4: I would say if you look at the offensive side

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Speaker 4: of the ball right now as it's currently constituted, the

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Speaker 4: one position you can make an argument for to add

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Speaker 4: is probably wide receiver because I think they have young

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Speaker 4: depth on the offensive line that's there. Maybe you want

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Speaker 4: to add a vet or two just for insurance or

522
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Speaker 4: going to camp, and then may the best guys make

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Speaker 4: the roster. But tight end is pretty much set. You

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Speaker 4: got three guys there, plus a fourth and Kalechi Latu.

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Speaker 4: You know, running backs pretty much set with the three

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Speaker 4: guys you have, plus Frank Gorge your practice squad guy.

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Speaker 4: And then offensive line, as we said, pretty much set.

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Speaker 4: Even though you lost Vandermark, you still have four offensive

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Speaker 4: tackles with Chase Lunt and Tyland Grabil behind the two starters.

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Speaker 4: So to me, like receivers, the only place where you're definitively.

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Speaker 5: Adding, right, it's a money's position. You always want to

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Speaker 5: be deep there, you always want to have talent there.

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Speaker 5: I get all of that. My question is when you

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Speaker 5: look at the current roster and I'm like, why are

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Speaker 5: you even thinking about the offensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 5: You can make You can tell me that when the

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Speaker 5: board drops, that there's a guy who's really going to

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Speaker 5: be a good pro at a spot on the offensive,

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Speaker 5: any spot on the offensive side of the ball, and

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Speaker 5: that's and he's going to far outshine any player left

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Speaker 5: on the board. I'll listen to that. Other than that,

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Speaker 5: I'm you know, no, I'm not taking anybody on that

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Speaker 5: side of the ball. Unless there's a guy who stands

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Speaker 5: so far above the rest of the board in your

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Speaker 5: eyes that you got to take him. That's not going

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Speaker 5: to happen. I don't think and if you.

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Speaker 4: Think about it all, already, the Bills have traded draft

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Speaker 4: assets to acquire a receiver in the form of DJ Moore.

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Speaker 4: You already gave up some major draft capital to get

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Speaker 4: a proven receiver. I just don't see them doing it

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Speaker 4: again and sacrificing more draft capital to move up in

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Speaker 4: round one, even with a slide by somebody, because you've

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Speaker 4: already taken that step.

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Speaker 3: With the Dj Moore, Bill given up a two.

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Speaker 5: The Bills scored more points than anybody in the conference

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Speaker 5: last year. Seattle scored thirty almost thirty four points a game,

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Speaker 5: Carolina scored thirty one, and then there was Bills. They

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Speaker 5: scored twenty. N hapf that nobody in the AFC scored

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Speaker 5: more points per game in the regular season. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 5: that's postseason. Hold on, let me see this regular season. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: they were behind LA, New England and Seattle, so they're

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Speaker 5: fourth in the league, second in a conference behind New England.

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Speaker 5: At twenty eight point five. The Bills were and the

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Speaker 5: New England's twenty eight point eight playing a last play schedule,

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Speaker 5: playing the last place schedule. So I'm you know, Im

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Speaker 5: and the Bills played a first place schedule and they're

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Speaker 5: still still scoring twenty eight points a game. I'm done

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Speaker 5: with that side of the ball for now. I'm in,

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Speaker 5: generally speaking, unless the circumstances that I just mentioned happen.

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Speaker 5: Unless there's a guy out there that dropped and whatever

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Speaker 5: that is way ahead of everybody else left, which I

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Speaker 5: have a hard time seeing at number twenty six. Get

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Speaker 5: a defender somewhere, somehow, someway.

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Speaker 4: How would you divide the Bills seven draft choices between

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Speaker 4: offense and defense.

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Speaker 3: Jim on the tweet sheet says.

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Speaker 4: Five on offense, two wide receivers, an interior offensive lineman

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Speaker 4: and offensive tackle, and a fullback.

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Speaker 3: Eight on defense. I think we need to help Jim

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Speaker 3: with some math.

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Speaker 7: Here.

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Speaker 3: Got seven picks, buddy.

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Speaker 5: Not their want. I want ten picks on the defensive

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Speaker 5: side and ten picks on the offensive side.

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Speaker 4: They could trade down into four times and still not

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Speaker 4: end up with thirteen draft picks. Uh. In any event,

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Speaker 4: I'll read Jim's tweet. Eight on defense two cornerbacks outside,

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Speaker 4: one slot corner, one DT, one tech DT, two outside

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Speaker 4: linebacker edges, one inside line.

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Speaker 3: But that's nine.

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Speaker 4: You didn't even add up the guys on defense, right, Jim?

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Speaker 4: Get a calculator, buddy, Jim, you can tweet at us

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Speaker 4: anytime you want.

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Speaker 5: Because I like where I like where you're heavy four

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Speaker 5: or five, I like where you're he's.

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Speaker 3: Got nine on defense? What he said eight?

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Speaker 5: I love it. That's thirteen total picks. I love the

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Speaker 5: four total irrationality of that entire treat. That is an elite.

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Speaker 5: That is an elite tweet, elite elite.

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Speaker 4: I want to divide up seven picks for the bills

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Speaker 4: of the draft.

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Speaker 3: I gave him fourteen, but I'm only gonna say thirteen.

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Speaker 3: But really, fourteen because that's how you make seven picks

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Speaker 3: into fourteen.

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Speaker 5: That's right, Holy cow, Jim, that's great stuff. I will

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Speaker 5: say this, Jim doesn't have an editor for his tweets.

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Speaker 3: Option Jim.

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Speaker 4: Jim listed one fullback as we know, Reggie Gilliam is

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Speaker 4: now a New England Patriot, and the Bills have not

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Speaker 4: made any effort whatsoever to replace the fullback position. Do

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Speaker 4: you think that could be an indication of a shift

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Speaker 4: in offensive philosophy? Because I'm thinking of the Old Saints'

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Speaker 4: offenses and I don't recall a fullback having much of

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Speaker 4: a role in that offensive scheme. Could this be an

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Speaker 4: indication that there's going to be less power run here

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Speaker 4: and maybe more throwing of the football.

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Speaker 5: That's a big that's a great point, Brownie.

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Speaker 3: They might, you know, I think it's an indication of

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Speaker 3: it might to where we're headed.

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Speaker 5: And it might be a little bit of a nod

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Speaker 5: towards Jackson Hawes as well, who could.

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Speaker 3: Double in that role. Yes, I get what you're.

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Speaker 5: Saying, because he's an elite run blocker, but not in

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Speaker 5: the same But hey, yeah, you're not gonna throw, You're

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Speaker 5: not gonna you know, it's not gonna on the offset.

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Speaker 5: I I mean you could, I guess, but because.

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Speaker 4: They did a lot of eye formation and offset eye

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Speaker 4: last season with Reggie, I mean, he might have got

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Speaker 4: the most snaps I've never gotten on the I.

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Speaker 5: Don't know where to start with that point, because it

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Speaker 5: is it a shift that Joe Brady's finally saying, all right,

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Speaker 5: thank you, I'm now I'm giving me this personnel exactly

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Speaker 5: eleven personnel or ten personnel or whatever, let's go.

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Speaker 4: Which then might make you think twice about adding a

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Speaker 4: receiver in the draft and how early.

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Speaker 7: You do that.

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Speaker 5: That's right, If.

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Speaker 4: That's what you're shifting to, you may have to consider

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Speaker 4: wide receivers sooner in the draft.

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Speaker 5: Let's just go.

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Speaker 3: That's the direction.

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Speaker 5: I'm totally I see it. I'm maybe I don't know

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Speaker 5: if I want to read into it, but I've always

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Speaker 5: said their actions tell you what they believe. And if

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Speaker 5: they're letting Reggie Gilliam walk, does that set does it

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Speaker 5: say something about their philosophy going forward? Offensively? Are they

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Speaker 5: getting lighter and faster? Are they gonna step away from

648
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Speaker 5: fifty to fifty run pass? Fifty one forty nine run pass?

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Speaker 5: Maybe that's the kind that's the kind of that's kind

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Speaker 5: of decision that head coaches make.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I remember the Saints had Heath Evans as

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Speaker 4: a fullback under Sean Payton, and I think whenever he

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Speaker 4: was asked about fullback he would say, oh, no, it's

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Speaker 4: it's a part of my offense. And he does have

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Speaker 4: he does have fullbacks in Denver, so he still utilizes them.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know. Maybe they pick one up late

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Speaker 4: in the draft, as Jim suggests with his thirteen draft selections.

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Speaker 5: Pick him up fourteen in the fourteenth round.

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Speaker 3: So maybe that happens.

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Speaker 4: And you know, this is all a moot conversation, but

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Speaker 4: but it has me wondering.

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Speaker 3: It has me wondering with.

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Speaker 4: As easily as they let you know, and look, fullback

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Speaker 4: is not a position that's terribly difficult to replace. I

665
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 4: think it just stings a little because I would argue

666
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 4: that Reggie Gilliam was coming off the best season of

667
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 4: his career, which is one of the big reasons he

668
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,439
Speaker 4: got the contract he did from the Patriots four years,

669
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Speaker 4: twelve million dollars. So you can replace a fullback that

670
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 4: is not a heavy lift very often. Number one, because

671
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 4: the majority of teams in the league do not necessarily

672
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 4: have one on their roster, so demand right now does

673
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 4: not terribly outweigh supply, so you can usually find a

674
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Speaker 4: capable one if you need one for your offense.

675
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:52,240
Speaker 3: We just haven't seen.

676
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 4: That kind of movement yet, and maybe they already said

677
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Speaker 4: we'll address it in the draft. Get a guy on

678
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 4: a rookie contract. We don't have to pay a ton

679
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Speaker 4: of money.

680
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Speaker 5: They might have the guy pegged, you know, exactly the

681
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 5: guy they want to. Who knows, but that I hadn't

682
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 5: really thought about that. I guess we did briefly when

683
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 5: when we heard Reggie Williams signed, but it was more

684
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 5: about saying goodbye to a good dude rather than a

685
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 5: philosophical shift, which we're talking about now.

686
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Speaker 4: I'm we'll see, we don't know, we will see, we

687
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 4: will see that If there is no fullback on the roster,

688
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 4: I think it's a strong indication.

689
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 5: That who takes another direct that roster spot? Is it

690
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 5: another running back, is another tight end, or's another wide receiver,

691
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 5: or's another offensive linement. I mean who?

692
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 4: I think they're probably keeping six receivers no matter what.

693
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 4: I get that they have Kalecki law to who could

694
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 4: be on the practice.

695
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 3: Squad, who's a tight end.

696
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 4: Who is a tight end, but not one that's going

697
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 4: to be doing a whole lot of blocking because he's

698
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 4: six seven.

699
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 3: He could be a fourth back, could.

700
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 5: Be on game day return guy.

701
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean but Ray Davis is that right?

702
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: Well?

703
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go, and he's already on the roster.

704
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 4: I don't know that's a good question.

705
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 5: Or does it go to the other side of the

706
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 5: ball and they it could take an extra edge guy

707
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 5: or something. Yeah.

708
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 4: I mean, you got four linebackers on the field now,

709
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 4: so you might carry eight linebackers instead of six.

710
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:19,959
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true.

711
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 3: Might go there, Yeah, that's true.

712
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 5: And then you have six D linemen. Yeah, eight linebackers,

713
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 5: six D linemen.

714
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 3: So that's fourteen.

715
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 5: You gotta have what ten dbs. It's twenty four. That's

716
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 5: your number.

717
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,720
Speaker 4: There it is, and then you can still have twenty

718
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 4: six on offense.

719
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 5: Yeah there specialists? Yeah, yeah, and you're specialists or the

720
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 5: last three?

721
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Speaker 6: Uh.

722
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 4: Joe fortunately has the math right. He says, five defensive

723
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 4: picks and two offensive picks. If a team scores anywhere

724
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 4: near thirty points per game, I think it's obvious where

725
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,919
Speaker 4: the help is needed. Let's get Jim Leonard whatever help

726
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 4: he needs, including free agents and the draft. As we

727
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,720
Speaker 4: said earlier this week, we are now in the portion

728
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 4: of free agency where it.

729
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:06,720
Speaker 3: Is one year deal season.

730
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 4: A lot of the money has been spent, the cap

731
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 4: space is limited, and you're signing guys on one year deals,

732
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 4: ideally for the veteran minimum, veteran exemptions, etc. You're not

733
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Speaker 4: spending big money because you need to leave some cap

734
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 4: space for your rookie pool, even when you're drafting as

735
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 4: low as the Bills are at twenty six.

736
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Speaker 3: So.

737
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Speaker 4: They don't have a second round pick right now, which

738
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 4: lowers the number needed. But you got to leave yourself

739
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Speaker 4: a cushion there.

740
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Speaker 5: The guys are going to sign now, are going to

741
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 5: move the needle about like Jordan Phillips or Larry Ogan.

742
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 5: Jobi would move the needle signing those guys back. That's

743
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 5: about what you're looking at. And even the fact that

744
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 5: you may not know who this next guy is. He

745
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 5: may not recognize his name like you do those other

746
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 5: two I just mentioned. It's gonna be that kind of player.

747
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 3: I like the.

748
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 4: Balance though, five defensive, two offense. If I could totally

749
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 4: see that happening, that's for the Bills.

750
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 3: In this draft.

751
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 5: That's that's standard philosophy. When you've got a guy like

752
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 5: Josh taking snaps, Josh's gonna carry that offense. He's gonna

753
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 5: make chicken salad, even with the receiver room in the

754
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 5: shambles injury wise. It was last year they scored twenty

755
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 5: eight points a game. They were hanging touchdowns on everybody,

756
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 5: and you know, they're just they can get it done.

757
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 5: They figure out a way. If you get an offensive

758
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 5: head coach and all of a sudden, he starts, you know,

759
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 5: making sure on that side of the ball, Like he

760
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 5: takes a wide receiver at twenty six and now he's

761
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 5: got guy, and now they starts trying to score thirty

762
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 5: eight points a game instead of twenty eight, and they

763
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 5: try to do that and win games and just let

764
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Speaker 5: the defense do what it can do. You know, I

765
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 5: don't know if that'll work, and I'm kind of exaggerating

766
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Speaker 5: to make a point, but that's what we don't know.

767
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Speaker 4: Are up against the break, So we're gonna step aside here.

768
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Speaker 4: But when we come back, I'm gonna have Steve answer

769
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Speaker 4: this question. If there are only two offensive players taken

770
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Speaker 4: by the Bills in this year's draft, what positions would.

771
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Speaker 3: He prefer to see them select? It act? That's next

772
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Speaker 3: here on one.

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Speaker 4: Bills Live, presented by Klida Health. All right back here

774
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Speaker 4: on One Bill's Live. We're asking you today, if the

775
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Speaker 4: bill seven draft choices, how would you divide them up

776
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 4: between offense and defense. We realize front office execs don't

777
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Speaker 4: look at the draft that way, but how do you

778
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,240
Speaker 4: want them to come out in terms of balancing offense

779
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 4: and defensive needs with their seven selections? You can hit

780
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Speaker 4: us up at one Bills Live on X and let

781
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 4: us know your thoughts. One of our tweeters told us

782
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Speaker 4: five on defense, two on offense. So, Steve, if they

783
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Speaker 4: make those two selections on offense with their seven picks,

784
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 4: what two positions on offense do you want them to

785
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Speaker 4: hit on.

786
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Speaker 5: I would say if they're gonna hit on them, If

787
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 5: they're gonna hit on them, well, I mean yeah, Well,

788
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Speaker 5: if you want money spot, I'll take a wide out sure,

789
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 5: and I would probably take to me an offensive lineman.

790
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Speaker 5: I think the picks one twenty six, one sixty five,

791
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Speaker 5: one sixty eight, one eighty two. So they got one

792
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 5: twenty six, one sixty five, one sixty eight one eighty two.

793
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 5: They have twenty six to ninety one two, So two

794
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 5: picks before all those picks, and then one pick after those.

795
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 5: I think those middle four picks between one six, twenty

796
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Speaker 5: six and one eighty two. Two of those two of

797
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 5: those spots, whatever two they are, are gonna be offensive players.

798
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 3: So you're gonna wait, Okay, so the first two picks

799
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 3: on defense.

800
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, it might be first two picks are gonna be defenders.

801
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 5: Maybe the third pick, the one twenty six pick, goes offense.

802
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,439
Speaker 5: But I'm I'm saying, I'm if they're gonna pick two

803
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 5: offensive guys, I think it's going to be between one

804
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:02,919
Speaker 5: eighty two.

805
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 3: So Day three for all intents and purposes, Yeah right.

806
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 5: And I was asking you this at lunch today. Are

807
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 5: you a traits guy or are you an intangibles guy?

808
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 5: When you get down deep in the draft.

809
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,240
Speaker 4: I think intangibles are important later in the draft because

810
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 4: those those players are they've got an uphill battle to

811
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 4: begin with being a late pick to just make the rosters.

812
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 4: So you have enough talent to play in this league.

813
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 4: If you have intangibles to go with them, I think

814
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 4: your chances are greater that you're gonna stick because you're

815
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 4: gonna do the requisite things necessary to be successful in

816
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 4: the league.

817
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 5: Right, You'll do whatever it takes to hang out to

818
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 5: be a survivor. There's three things you look for me.

819
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 5: This is the old guy way of looking at things. Okay,

820
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 5: One is traits physical, fast, strong, jump high, at that,

821
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 5: all that. The second one is your character. Are you

822
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 5: a right kind of teammate? Are you unselfish? You work hard?

823
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 5: Do you you know? Are you a team guy? Unselfish

824
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 5: that all that stuff. Those are the two of them.

825
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,959
Speaker 5: The third one is are you a smart guy? What's

826
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 5: your level of intelligence? I don't care about your your

827
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 5: how many you know football? I want to know how

828
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 5: smart you are. Smart guys always improve if they've got

829
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 5: character to back it up and enough ability, And if

830
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 5: they've got enough ability to get in the door, they're

831
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 5: gonna get better. Smart guys always use whatever they have

832
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 5: to maximize it. Some guys have the character, they're great dudes,

833
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 5: and they got just enough ability to get in the door.

834
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 5: But they can't pick up the offense. They can't they're

835
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 5: not committed enough. They don't have you know, they don't

836
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 5: they don't understand, or they're getting bad advice too. If

837
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 5: they're not smart enough to recognize bad advice. That's on them.

838
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 5: But intelligence is the one thing that maximizes every other

839
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 5: tool you've got. And if you've got that, you've got

840
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 5: something that's gonna elevate you. These teams do give these

841
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 5: guys intelligence tests, at least they used to, and they

842
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 5: some of them do.

843
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 3: And I in a different form now exactly.

844
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 5: And it's not and I'm not talking about can you

845
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 5: pick up the blitz from the mac in an underfront

846
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 5: kind of thing, you know, I'm talking about raw intelligence,

847
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 5: because you can learn an if you're smart enough, you

848
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 5: can learn anything. And that's I think the one characteristic

849
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,240
Speaker 5: that is really hard to pinpoint because all the character

850
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 5: stuff clouds how smart the guy is. You cheer for

851
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 5: guys with high character, that doesn't make him smart, so

852
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 5: you know, you tend to shade intelligence toward the character.

853
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,439
Speaker 5: And it's not always true. And there are a lot

854
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 5: of guys who I wouldn't introduce to my mom, But man,

855
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 5: they're smart, yeah, you know what I mean? And that

856
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 5: because that's the way it can go the other way.

857
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 5: The guys that are loaning to them, Yeah, but there

858
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 5: they their lights are on. They get it. They just

859
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 5: don't care, right, they don't.

860
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 4: Have a moral intelligent, intelligent most of the time except

861
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:15,959
Speaker 4: when they step between the lines and lose their mind.

862
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 5: Well even so, I'm talking about like in life. But

863
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 5: that's the thing. You it's traits, physical traits, it's character,

864
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 5: and it's intelligence. Those three things in the mix that

865
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 5: you get. You get different outcomes with the same with

866
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 5: the same intelligent and different you get different outcomes, and

867
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 5: the same physical traits with different character and different intelligence,

868
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 5: you get a different outcome. It's it's those are the

869
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 5: three things that I look at that I think affect

870
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 5: the guy's future. And you got to you gotta get

871
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 5: the right mix. You gotta get the right mix. And

872
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,479
Speaker 5: that's why when you get down to the bottom half

873
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 5: of the draft, that's you know, not that it's not important.

874
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 3: At the top, but carries more weight.

875
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 5: But if you've got a guy who's off the charts smart,

876
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 5: he's gifted beyond belief, and he's the smartest guy in

877
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 5: the room, yeah pick him, Yeah, pick him.

878
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 4: That's how fits was seventh round. Pick smart as a whip,

879
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 4: you know, forty nine on the Wonderlick.

880
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 3: And he had had enough ability, had enough ability ability.

881
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 4: We told you at the top of the show about

882
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Speaker 4: the impasse and negotiations between the Referees Association and the league.

883
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Speaker 4: Scott Green, the executive director of the Referees Association, issued

884
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Speaker 4: a statement, and now the NFL has issued a statement

885
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Speaker 4: from NFL Executive vice president Jeff Miller, who said, we

886
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 4: continue to focus on investing in accountability and performance and

887
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 4: hour officiating. Scott and his team haven't changed their approach

888
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 4: in almost two years, continuing to demand raises at almost

889
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 4: double the rate of increases realized by the players over

890
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 4: the course of this CBA, and in addition, millions of

891
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 4: dollars in marketing fees that and file union members never see.

892
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 4: We are ready to continue negotiations to reach a fair

893
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 4: and reasonable agreement, but in the meantime, while the union

894
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 4: refuses to engage in a meaningful way, we will continue

895
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 4: to prepare for the expiration of the current agreement because

896
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 4: we will be playing football in August end.

897
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 3: Quote.

898
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 4: So now they're accusing the reps of not negotiating to

899
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 4: reach a fair and reasonable agreement, even though it was

900
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 4: their people that left the negotiating table taking.

901
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 3: An early lunch.

902
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 5: We're out, We'll see it see in August. Y, that's right,

903
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 5: see in August. It's oh.

904
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Speaker 3: The legal man here is tantalizing.

905
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,439
Speaker 5: And I know Baseball opening night was last night. This

906
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 5: is hardball.

907
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Speaker 4: Gotta take a break here, But our number two is

908
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Speaker 4: going to begin with our good friend Pete Prisco, CBS

909
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 4: Sports Senior NFL writer. He's got a mock draft and

910
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 4: a name that might be familiar to some. We'll talk

911
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Speaker 4: about his pick for the Bills when we return here

912
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Speaker 4: on One Bill's Life, Thuck.

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Speaker 1: You boys do today.

914
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,760
Speaker 2: He is a feast for the Capitol fime. The cook

915
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 2: is in the kitchen, looks.

916
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 3: Now the sideline.

917
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: He's got kick kad for a twenty three yard.

918
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 2: Touchdown and it's intercepted.

919
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 5: Jumping over the air is bad for.

920
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 8: This.

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Speaker 1: The One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Help.

922
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Speaker 3: Second out of the show on a Thursday.

923
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Speaker 4: Here Chris Brown seeds, ask her with you and happy

924
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 4: to welcome in now CBS Sports Senior NFL writer Pete Crisco,

925
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 4: who has been hard at work on his latest mock draft.

926
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Speaker 4: With the draft exactly one month from today, we figure

927
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Speaker 4: we get Pete on and get his thoughts on the

928
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Speaker 4: class as a whole. And his Bill's pick as well

929
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Speaker 4: at twenty six.

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Speaker 3: So, Pete, how you doing.

931
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Speaker 4: Thanks for some time, and you know we'll start right

932
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Speaker 4: off the rip with this because the general consensus, because

933
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Speaker 4: I know you were out at the NFL combine last

934
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Speaker 4: month as well in Indy, the general consensus we had

935
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Speaker 4: gathered was limited blue chippers, you know, six to eight maybe,

936
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Speaker 4: which is going to make Pickens pretty slim in terms

937
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Speaker 4: of value at twenty six where the Bills sit you,

938
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Speaker 4: what is your overarching view of the class as a whole.

939
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Speaker 8: Well, you're right, there aren't a lot of blue chippers

940
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 8: in this class. What there is is a lot of

941
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 8: guys that are going to be good football players. And

942
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 8: I think that's why value will come in rounds two

943
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 8: to four, at least in my mind when I do

944
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 8: the evaluation of the players, I think you're gonna get

945
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 8: a lot of really good football players in rounds two

946
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Speaker 8: to four. You might not get star of stars, but

947
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Speaker 8: you're gonna get guys that are gonna be productive starters,

948
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 8: who are going to go get second contracts somewhere, and

949
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Speaker 8: so I think that's where the value is in this draft.

950
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: You're right, the top of the draft is not loaded

951
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: with star potential.

952
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 8: And when you look at some of those positions where

953
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 8: people do consider it star potential Jeremiah Love running back,

954
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 8: Sonny Styles off the ball, linebacker, Caleb Downs safety, they're

955
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 8: not positions of great value. And so I think that's

956
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Speaker 8: why you look at this draft and you kind of

957
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Speaker 8: stack it up and you realize there's a lot of

958
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 8: good players, but might not be a lot of great ones.

959
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Speaker 5: And you had as you get into this, everybody starts

960
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,479
Speaker 5: to evaluate their own roster. Fan bases start to think, Okay,

961
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Speaker 5: where do we really need a player? You think the

962
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Speaker 5: Bills at the current moment, you've got them in the

963
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Speaker 5: top three in your power rankings. The way their rosters

964
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 5: sitting down projecting forward. What are some of the reasons. Obviously,

965
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 5: Josh taking snaps helps the power rankings of any team,

966
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Speaker 5: But where else do you see the quality of the

967
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 5: Bills roster ranking third out of the thirty two teams.

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Speaker 8: Well, I think one of the things, well two things

969
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 8: actually you mentioned Josh, and I think Josh Allen will

970
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 8: be looser and freer this year under Joe Brady.

971
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 1: And I'm a big believer in that.

972
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 8: I argue all the time with our guys and that look,

973
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 8: Cook's a great running back. Nice to have them, but

974
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 8: you're goly gonna go as far as Josh Allen takes

975
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,720
Speaker 8: in terms of driving the ball down the field, chunk

976
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 8: plays in the passing game, the adda structure stuff. So

977
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 8: I think they're gonna put more on Josh and let

978
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 8: him play free er and looser. And I know people

979
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 8: will say, well, he might turn the ball over. I'd

980
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Speaker 8: rather have a guy throw over three seventy five, three

981
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Speaker 8: and two than one eighty one and none, and so

982
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 8: I think that's where you're gonna get more of that A.

983
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Speaker 1: So I'm a big believer in that two.

984
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 8: I think Jim Leonard's gonna really help the defense be

985
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 8: much more aggressive than what they've been. And I know

986
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 8: Sean McDermott and that defense got a little more aggressive

987
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 8: in the second half of the season last year. I

988
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 8: think we're gonna see more and more of that as

989
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 8: they reshape that defense.

990
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 1: So there's reason for optimism. They still have questions.

991
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 8: Like every team in the league, but I think they're

992
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 8: right up there at the top in the NFL all right.

993
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 4: So with that in mind, let's kind of pivot to

994
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 4: your pick at twenty six for them and your latest

995
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 4: mock which has them taking cash as Howel the pass

996
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 4: rusher from A and M who may slide down there

997
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 4: because of arm length, you know, and maybe a couple

998
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 4: other reasons. But I like this pick because Pete, while

999
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 4: they have I added Bradley Chubb in free agency, and

1000
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 4: they're gonna make Rousseau an outside linebacker in this three

1001
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 4: four scheme, they don't have a juice guy off the

1002
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 4: edge like a bender that's just gonna bend the corner

1003
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 4: and win with speed. And I would argue they haven't

1004
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 4: had that in the nine years of the Bean regime.

1005
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 4: So just your thoughts on why you like Howell as

1006
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 4: it fit for the Bills.

1007
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 8: And you're right, he has his short arms, but when

1008
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 8: you put on his tape, he can pop. He goes

1009
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 8: after it. And you know, we've gotten so caught up

1010
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 8: in arm length. And if you go back and look

1011
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 8: in history, yeah, arm length has mattered for some guys,

1012
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 8: but it hasn't mattered for a lot of other guys

1013
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 8: as well. And so as somebody said to me the

1014
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 8: other day, when you measure the arm length where they

1015
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 8: measuring it from, and there's inconsistencies on the measurement of

1016
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 8: where they do it from, who does it, how it's

1017
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 8: done a b do you ever see anybody playing football

1018
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 8: with their hands out like this, and yet that's how

1019
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 8: they measure the.

1020
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: Arm They play like this. They don't play like that.

1021
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: And so I think arm length gets so caught up

1022
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 1: in this.

1023
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 8: Draft process of being such a factor, and it shouldn't be.

1024
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 8: It should be some factor, but it shouldn't be the

1025
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 8: end all be on. I think this kid, when you

1026
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 8: watch his tape, he's explosive. I think you stand him up,

1027
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,760
Speaker 8: he can rush the passer, and he does have that juice.

1028
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 8: And you mentioned it. How long have the Bills been

1029
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 8: chasing the juice? I mean for years and years and

1030
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 8: years they chased the juice and then they went and

1031
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 8: tried to get von Miller and he got hurt. Then

1032
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 8: they tried to get Bosa and he wasn't the juice

1033
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 8: he used to be, and so you have to get

1034
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:55,919
Speaker 8: that guy.

1035
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:57,919
Speaker 1: So I think they need to address that. I've heard

1036
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: people say.

1037
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 8: Off the ball line in that spot will be something

1038
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 8: else that they should strongly consider. If you go back

1039
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 8: and look at the Bills history, they don't use those

1040
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 8: premium picks on the on the off the ball linebacker. Now,

1041
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 8: Tremaine Edmunds was one that did that work out. I

1042
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 8: don't think that worked out well. I mean it wasn't

1043
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 8: a great he wasn't bad, but he wasn't a star.

1044
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 3: Didn't get to a second soundtract here? Yeah?

1045
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 1: Correct? Correct? And then when was it you look at?

1046
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: Bernard was a third, Williams was a third, Milano was

1047
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: a fifth I think, or yeah, I think he was

1048
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: a fifth.

1049
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 8: So what the last aside from from Edmunds was the

1050
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:35,839
Speaker 8: last off the ball linebacker they used it?

1051
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 1: It was a Tom Kuzeno.

1052
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, I mean even Paul Losney was a

1053
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 3: second rounder.

1054
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: So correct. Yeah.

1055
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 8: So I think you look at the Bills, you have

1056
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 8: to do one of two things in that spot, at

1057
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 8: least in my estimation, you either see a receiver.

1058
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 1: You love and you fall out. You know, you got DJ.

1059
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 8: Moore you can still get another one who can run,

1060
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 8: or you take that guy who can rush the pastor

1061
00:54:57,960 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 8: because that's something they really need.

1062
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 5: So we've been talking about, you know, the Bills needs

1063
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 5: and how they're going to parse out their six or

1064
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 5: seven draft picks that they have seven of them, And

1065
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 5: how do you feel about at the top of the draft,

1066
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 5: even if it is a twenty sixth pick and not

1067
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 5: a tenth pick or a seventh pick, you're picking twenty

1068
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 5: six first round of the draft. How much weight do

1069
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 5: you give Money's positions as opposed to like a corner,

1070
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 5: as opposed to a safety or wide receiver, as opposed

1071
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 5: to a guard. How much weight do you throw on

1072
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 5: your choices in that first round or high in the draft,

1073
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,720
Speaker 5: even if it's a high second rounder or late second rounder.

1074
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:43,800
Speaker 5: How much weight do you throw on the money positions

1075
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 5: rather than others?

1076
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 8: Well, I think you have to and I mentioned safety

1077
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:53,280
Speaker 8: early on in this about the value of that position.

1078
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 8: Kale downs. You know, people say top five, top ten,

1079
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,439
Speaker 8: but I always go back and you look.

1080
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: You look at the Super Bowl teams. Look who won

1081
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl last year?

1082
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:07,280
Speaker 8: It was Seattle with Kobe Bryant and Julian Love playing

1083
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 8: safety and they're both converted corners. You go back the

1084
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 8: year before, it was Read Blanketship who was undrafted, and

1085
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 8: Chauncey Garner Johnson who's now in Buffalo and was on

1086
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 8: his third I think team and he was a fourth

1087
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 8: round pick.

1088
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: You don't have to put value on that position. Now,

1089
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 1: if you like a guy in that spot, I get it.

1090
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: I understand that.

1091
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 8: But if you build your front lines, both of them

1092
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 8: by the way offensive and defensive lines, you're going to

1093
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 8: be a good football team provided you have the quarterback

1094
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 8: who can make enough plays to win games.

1095
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: And Buffalo clearly has that. So I think the value.

1096
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 8: Has to be on the front on both sides, and

1097
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 8: if you have that, then you could start maneuvering outside. Now,

1098
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 8: last year, getting Hairston to play cornerback, I think that

1099
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 8: was a really good pick.

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00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 1: I loved him.

1101
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 8: I thought he was one of the best corners in

1102
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 8: the draft. Now he got hurt, and he got hurt again.

1103
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 8: But I think this is a guy that has to

1104
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 8: be in there in this defense and be able to

1105
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 8: plug and play and cover and play man defense.

1106
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 1: And I think he can. So there's value in that

1107
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:08,439
Speaker 1: spot as well.

1108
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 8: There isn't great value in the safety position, contrary to

1109
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 8: what everybody makes you believe.

1110
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 4: And then with respect to the best value in the draft,

1111
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 4: which you said earlier in your estimation is between rounds

1112
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 4: two and four, what merit do you give the prospect

1113
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 4: of you know, the Bills moving back from twenty six

1114
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 4: and not picking in round one at all, and you know,

1115
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 4: maybe sliding back to thirty five and picking up an

1116
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 4: extra three and now they've got three picks in those

1117
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 4: meat and potato or four picks in those meat and

1118
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:37,919
Speaker 4: potato rounds between rounds two and four.

1119
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, unless you have a guy right there that you

1120
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 8: truly love and he's the end all be all in

1121
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 8: your scouting evaluation, he's going to be the difference in

1122
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 8: this team in the next three years, you can move back.

1123
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 8: I would move back. I would get more picks. This

1124
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 8: is a draft where more picks will matter. So if

1125
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 8: I'm Buffalo and I'm sitting there, and let's just say

1126
00:57:58,000 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 8: for the sake of the argument, they like cash as

1127
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 8: how and they think he's the end all be over

1128
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 8: the defense, he can be a guy that's going to

1129
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 8: be a difference maker late in the game when they're

1130
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 8: in the playoffs and they got a third and seven

1131
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 8: and they're playing the Denver Broncos and they need it

1132
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 8: or was it third and nine or whatever it was,

1133
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 8: then he need to knock the quarterback down. Maybe he's

1134
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 8: the guy. Then you go, you make that pick. But

1135
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 8: if not, trade down to get extra picks. What was

1136
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 8: it third and nine or third and seven.

1137
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna remember.

1138
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 4: That's not one I choose to remember very fondly, Pete,

1139
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 4: as you might.

1140
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 5: Understand, Yeah, it could. It could easily be third and

1141
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 5: fourteen too. So let's let's talk a little bit more

1142
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:36,919
Speaker 5: about this class at the top. Obviously, Mendoza is gonna

1143
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 5: go first to the Raiders. I guess I should just

1144
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 5: ask it. Is he the guy you think he's gonna

1145
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 5: because we couldn't find anybody who said one negative thing

1146
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 5: about him at the combine.

1147
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: He was a great kid.

1148
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 8: You know, he's a little robotic, but you know, I

1149
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 8: think some of his other sides started coming out in

1150
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 8: some of those interviews. You've seen that. But what he

1151
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 8: has tough this an accuracy, And you've been around you

1152
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 8: guys have been around this league. You know if you

1153
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 8: have toughness and accuracy and play in that position, you're

1154
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 8: gonna be a dark good quarterback in this league. And

1155
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 8: he's also one of those guys that seems to elevate

1156
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 8: his game in the big moments.

1157
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 1: And so for me, he's the clear number one.

1158
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 8: I know, all these guys Orlowsky and those guys are

1159
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 8: all starting to talk about Simpson being right there with him.

1160
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 8: I don't see it, and the people I talked to

1161
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 8: this league haven't mentioned that to me at all. I

1162
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 8: like Simpson, but I think there's a clear separation between

1163
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 8: Mendoza and Simpson, just like there's a clear separation from

1164
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 8: Simpson to the next guy, whoever that may be.

1165
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the track record isn't great for one year

1166
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 4: starters at quarterback in this league anyway, When you draft

1167
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 4: him high, you did kind of assess the free agent

1168
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 4: market as well. It wasn't, you know, overrun with elite talent,

1169
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 4: so some guys that were perceived to be close to

1170
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 4: that got a lot of money early. But we were

1171
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 4: at the second wave of free agency by Friday of

1172
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 4: you know, the league year. How do you assess you know,

1173
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 4: what the Bills did in free agency, obviously rolling in

1174
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 4: the trade for DJ Moore?

1175
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 1: Well, Dj Moore?

1176
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 8: Look, do I love DJ Moore as much as maybe

1177
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 8: some other guys know. But is he an upgrade to

1178
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 8: what they have? Absolutely? And so I get it. You

1179
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 8: have to address that position. I think he upgrades that position.

1180
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 8: Is he a star wide receiver? I would say no,

1181
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 8: Is he a darn good one. I would say yes.

1182
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 8: So it's clearly an upgrade and clearly in need. And

1183
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 8: we know Joe Brady knows him, so it makes sense

1184
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 8: from that standpoint, So that works. I think what they

1185
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 8: did the rest of free agency. Look, you gotta hope,

1186
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 8: like the Offer can step in and be the nickel corner.

1187
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 8: You got to hope that Chauncey Gardner Johnson can come

1188
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 8: in and be one of the safeties. I mean, if

1189
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 8: that happens, then you've upgraded a secondary that needed it.

1190
01:00:58,240 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 8: Taron Johnson was a good player, but he wanted to

1191
01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 8: say player last year.

1192
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 1: You guys know that he wasn't as good. I didn't think,

1193
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 1: you know.

1194
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 8: And so they've been looking for a second Sainety next

1195
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 8: to Cole Bishop for how long now.

1196
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 1: I mean they tried to.

1197
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 8: You know, they had handling there and they just need

1198
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 8: to upgrade that position.

1199
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 1: So I like it.

1200
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 8: You know, they were kind of limited by what they had.

1201
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 8: Getting getting the center back is important. I thought that

1202
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 8: was huge for them. I thought that was the most

1203
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 8: one of the most important things that they did. They

1204
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 8: did lose David Edwards, but you know, they can replay

1205
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 8: your guard. You can replace a guard, and I think

1206
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 8: he is definitely replaceable.

1207
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 5: So if the Bills do not, by some outlandish turn

1208
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 5: of events, pick the guy that you had for them, Cassius,

1209
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 5: I mean, listen, Cashus. How if by some outrageous turn

1210
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 5: of events they don't pick Cashus, how who do you have?

1211
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 5: What other position or what are the player is going

1212
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 5: to be there?

1213
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 8: Well, by the way, I also will do about two

1214
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 8: more of those, so I probably changed exactly. There's actually

1215
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 8: a guy I really like in this draft process and

1216
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 8: I think he would fit Buffalo perfectly, and it's our

1217
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 8: Mason Thomas. And I had him going to the Cowboys

1218
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 8: early in the draft and you know a lot of

1219
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 8: people looked at that and they said, what, I don't

1220
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 8: see him as the first round pick on anybody said,

1221
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 8: anybody's bored. But you talk to teams around the league

1222
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 8: he's going in the first round, and I think he'd

1223
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 8: be a great pick for the Bills.

1224
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 1: You know, he's a guy that he gives you that juice.

1225
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: You talk about the juice off the edge, he gives

1226
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,919
Speaker 1: it to you. He's explosive. He's just not a big guy.

1227
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 8: But with the Buffalo Bills and they're restructured and reformat

1228
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 8: a defense, like to have Nick Benito on that defense,

1229
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 8: because that's exactly what that kid is.

1230
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 1: He's Nick Benito.

1231
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 8: And oh, by the way, he's a South Florida kid,

1232
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 8: so you know, he comes with an edge in an attitude,

1233
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 8: and I think that would be good for the Buffalo Bills.

1234
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, arm Mason Thomas was the guy that I was

1235
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 4: kind of hoping might get there, And now I'm hearing

1236
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,959
Speaker 4: more and more than he might not get to twenty six.

1237
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 4: And you're not helping Pete with your mock change that up,

1238
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 4: bars will yeah do it in the next one. You know.

1239
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 1: You know what I do. I go through the scouting process.

1240
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 8: I do my own work, and then I talk to

1241
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 8: guys around the league and say, hey, I think this

1242
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 8: kid should be a first round pick and why aren't

1243
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 8: people And they go, oh, no, he's going to be

1244
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 8: a first round pick, and I go, okay, I thought so,

1245
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 8: and he has a look to it. By the way,

1246
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 8: there are good edge rushers in this draft class. I

1247
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 8: think that's one thing. You know, we sit here and

1248
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 8: we say, well, there's not the Miles Garrett type of

1249
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 8: pass rushers at the top. You might have one or

1250
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 8: two guys that you really like, but there's a group

1251
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 8: of them. You know, the kid from UCF, you know,

1252
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 8: he's another one that could rush the passer and would

1253
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 8: fit in the Bills. So but I think of all

1254
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 8: the guys out there, if I was the Buffalo Bills,

1255
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:38,919
Speaker 8: of all the guys out there that I could put

1256
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 8: my have my wish list on, it would be our

1257
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 8: Mason Thomas.

1258
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 1: That's who I would want give him that spot.

1259
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 5: And I was going to ask you too, what is

1260
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 5: are there? Because we talked about our Mason Thomas, We

1261
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 5: talked about Cashus Howell, we talk about all these edge

1262
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 5: rushers who who we think are pretty sure, kind of

1263
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 5: sure that they're going to be there at twenty six.

1264
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 5: Are there any limitations for you physically to because all

1265
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 5: you can do as a fan is go online see

1266
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 5: how tall and how heavy the guy is. You can

1267
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 5: watch his highlights, but you can't really you know, you

1268
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 5: can't stand next to him. And you know how it is.

1269
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 5: Sometimes you stand next to these guys and they look

1270
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 5: like pro athletes, some of them don't. Is there anything

1271
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 5: that keeps you back, any physical traits that keeps you

1272
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 5: back from from guys? Or is it all about the tape.

1273
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 1: I'm a tape guy.

1274
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 8: And by the way, both those guys have shorter arms

1275
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 8: than you would like at the position. But and the

1276
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 8: one knock on r Mason Thomas is he's not great

1277
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 8: against the run. And yet I put on the tape

1278
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 8: and I see him playing the run. He's tough, he's willing.

1279
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 8: I mean, that's not a big physical presence, but that scheme,

1280
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 8: he'd be perfect to play outside rush linebacker in that scheme.

1281
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 1: Here's the other thing.

1282
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 8: He played the tackle Procter from Alabama and had some

1283
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 8: really good rushes against him, and that guy's going to

1284
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 8: be a first round pick again. The Texas left tackle

1285
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 8: who's going to be a top ten pick next year.

1286
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 1: He had a lot of really good rushes against him.

1287
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 8: So I usually when I evaluate tape, I want to

1288
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 8: see good on good. You can see a guy against

1289
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 8: and they played Illinois State Oklahoma.

1290
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 1: You can see him play Illinois State.

1291
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 8: He's rushing against guys that are going to be a

1292
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 8: bouncing at the bar in a couple of years.

1293
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 1: And so it's hard evaluation that standpoint.

1294
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 8: So when you see good on good and the guys

1295
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 8: having success against good, that's usually something that stands out

1296
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 8: for me.

1297
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Malachi Lawrence was the other guy that Pete

1298
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 4: referenced also from.

1299
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 8: And by the way, he's got some real twitchiness to him.

1300
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 8: I just think he's a little more He's more of

1301
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 8: a raw football player than maybe R. Mason Thomas is.

1302
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 4: Right now, Yeah, better arms too, thirty three and five

1303
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:43,919
Speaker 4: eighths ysessed.

1304
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 5: With armlength Brownie. Brownie is a little bit of an

1305
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 5: arm link. No, I like Mason thomas closet arm lengths. Guy, Pete,

1306
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 5: thanks as always for the time.

1307
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 3: We appreciate.

1308
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 4: We'll keep an eye out for your next mont coming

1309
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 4: down the line soon at CBS sports dot com.

1310
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 1: You got it, guys, take care all right.

1311
01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 3: That's Pete Prisco joining us.

1312
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 4: As a pass rusher for Buffalo twenty six. Cashus Howell,

1313
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 4: who you know? You can do a lot worse than Cashus Howell.

1314
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 4: We all have our favorite Steve.

1315
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, nobody's going to complain if the Bills take an

1316
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 5: edge guy, so nobody.

1317
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 4: Late last month we get field the Eights on at

1318
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 4: the Combine and I said, look, I love AR Mason Thomas.

1319
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 3: Where do you think he's going to go? Now?

1320
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 4: As of late last month, his belief was that our

1321
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 4: Mason Thomas could go anywhere from pick twenty to pick

1322
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 4: thirty five. So now based on the people Pete's talking to,

1323
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 4: it sounds like that might be even higher, which means

1324
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 4: it's less likely that he like fist to Buffalo.

1325
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 5: At twenteen, just fifteen to thirty.

1326
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I get it, which is disappointing because I

1327
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 4: was kind of hoping he would be there. Disappointing the

1328
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 4: guy's so good, well, because he's a he's that speed

1329
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 4: and juice off the edge, not to mention the fact

1330
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 4: that he's a team captain and we know these we

1331
01:06:56,280 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 4: know the Bills like team captains. So yeah, and you

1332
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 4: know you heard Pete describe him to Nick Benito. Nick

1333
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 4: Benito also went to Oklahoma. As a matter of fact,

1334
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 4: I've read that ar Mason Thomas trained with Nick Benito

1335
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 4: each of the last two off seasons down there in Norman.

1336
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 5: When they get connected to guys like that, you think

1337
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 5: I hated that guy when he was with the Broncos.

1338
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 5: He's a really good player. Yeah, you know, you pick

1339
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 5: those guys out. Oh yeah, I'd love to have that guy,

1340
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 5: you know, And you know, ar Mason Thomas is a

1341
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 5: different guy than Nick Benito, but still that you know,

1342
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:35,439
Speaker 5: that's what you're looking at. Yeah, yeah, that's I don't know, well, yes,

1343
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 5: that that spot. Whether it's a guy like ar Mason Thomas,

1344
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 5: or it's Cashus Howell or Malachi, Lawrence Malakai, Lawrence Kendrick

1345
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 5: falk t J. Parker, you know, take a pick. People

1346
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 5: are gonna be like, Okay, let's go and I we

1347
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 5: fight against this all the time. We had this convers

1348
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 5: I had this conversation with Brown. I listen. Just because

1349
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 5: they take a different the same position, but a different

1350
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 5: guy than you liked, it just means they have a

1351
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 5: different It doesn't mean they're thinking completely differently than you.

1352
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 5: And people get caught up in the fact that they

1353
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:06,920
Speaker 5: should never have taken Ay, I wanted them to like

1354
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 5: my guy. That's right. Don't get caught up in that,

1355
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 5: because these they dig deeper than we're able to. And

1356
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 5: I'm I have no problem trusting the scouting department that

1357
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 5: all those guys who've actually looked the guy in there and

1358
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 5: have a conversation with him before they draft him. I'm like, Okay,

1359
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:26,759
Speaker 5: at least they got the guy the position I wanted.

1360
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 5: That's that's about as happy as you can be. And

1361
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:32,799
Speaker 5: I think most Bills fans would be like, Eh, okay,

1362
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:35,680
Speaker 5: give me the Edge guy. If that's the best one,

1363
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 5: they like, let's go.

1364
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1365
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 4: I hope he slides now. Now he's got a slide

1366
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 4: to get to us. I thought we were gonna have

1367
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 4: a shot at him.

1368
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 5: It's always like we're picking twenty six, we're picking twenty five,

1369
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 5: we're picking twenty three, well, twenty eight.

1370
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 4: Not for nothing, but like I was kind of going

1371
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:53,760
Speaker 4: through the teams that are picking in front of Buffalo

1372
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 4: to assess their you know, quote unquote top three needs

1373
01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 4: based on what they've added in free agency and then

1374
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 4: seeing what they still have to fill. So betweens pick

1375
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 4: one and twenty five. I have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven,

1376
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 4: twelve thirteen teams that have Edge rusher as one of

1377
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 4: their top three positional needs.

1378
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 3: Thirteen.

1379
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 4: Now that doesn't mean they're all taken one, but only

1380
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:26,759
Speaker 4: half of them have to take one, and the cupboards

1381
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 4: bear by the time you get to twenty six.

1382
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 5: That is correct, which means you might have to pivot

1383
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 5: and take a guy like c. J. Allen stand up

1384
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 5: off the ball linebacker like a Tikio Spikes kind of guy.

1385
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 3: Or trade the hell out of there and right back

1386
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 3: to thirty.

1387
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 5: Just move back and get a couple of guys.

1388
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the ruby, and that's the problem that you

1389
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 4: run into when you're one of the last five or

1390
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 4: six selections of the round every year.

1391
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 3: Right, So right, I mean, we got to wait and

1392
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:56,719
Speaker 3: see what happens.

1393
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 4: And you know, maybe they're maybe there's only two or

1394
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:02,439
Speaker 4: three edge rushers in that top tier. You know, the

1395
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 4: David Baileys, Rville Reese, if he's seen as a edge rusher,

1396
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 4: some team see him as a off the wall backer,

1397
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 4: you know. And some of those guys that are better

1398
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 4: fit for a four to three as a true hand

1399
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:18,759
Speaker 4: on the ground defensive end. You know, some people think TJ.

1400
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 4: Parker is a four to three defensive end. He's not

1401
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:25,680
Speaker 4: suited for outside linebacker. That can help also, you know,

1402
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:30,639
Speaker 4: push the three four guys down to us. But maybe, yeah,

1403
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 4: may it's a hard.

1404
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 5: Maybe yeah hard.

1405
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 4: Maybe we got to take a break here when we

1406
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 4: come back. More of your thoughts on the tweet sheet

1407
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 4: as we are asking you to break down the seven

1408
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 4: picks for the Bills in the draft. How many you

1409
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 4: want on offense? How many you want on defense? Of

1410
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:48,759
Speaker 4: those seven? You tell us next here on one Bills

1411
01:10:48,760 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 4: Live at one Bills Live on Twitter. All right back

1412
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 4: here on one Bill's Live Chris Brown, Steve tasking with you,

1413
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 4: how would you divide the bill seven draft choices between

1414
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 4: offense and defense? Jack on the tweet, she says, get

1415
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:14,840
Speaker 4: us a wide receiver in the first or third, spend

1416
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 4: the other early pick, and all the picks in the fourth, fifth,

1417
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 4: and sixth rounds on defense. Finally, use the seventh for

1418
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:25,799
Speaker 4: a fullback since our boy Reggie jumped ship, or maybe

1419
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:29,679
Speaker 4: a punter. They did re sign Mitch Weshnowski, the punter,

1420
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 4: you know they covered the second half of the season

1421
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 4: for the Bills last year to a new one year deal,

1422
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 4: so he's back in the fold. May not need to

1423
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:41,760
Speaker 4: do that. I can get behind that approach. I don't

1424
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:43,640
Speaker 4: have to take the wide receiver in round one. You

1425
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 4: even take it in round three, and I think it's

1426
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:48,720
Speaker 4: somebody that will still be able to help you. I'm

1427
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 4: just very bullish on getting a speed rusher on the edge. Yeah,

1428
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 4: just the Bills have just never had that during the

1429
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 4: Bean era. Here just a juice guy off the edge.

1430
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 4: I mean Von Mill was the closest thing to that,

1431
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:05,600
Speaker 4: but he was aged thirty three, not twenty three. So

1432
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 4: I'm in favor of getting a guy like that. And look,

1433
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 4: if it's not in the first round, so be it.

1434
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:13,720
Speaker 4: You slide back to the top round too. You got

1435
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 4: a guy you like that fits the value, better take

1436
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 4: him there or use one of the picks you added

1437
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 4: in the third to get one. I just think somewhere

1438
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:21,720
Speaker 4: in the first two days, you got to get a

1439
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 4: guy with speed to burn off the edge. You've got

1440
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 4: to speed up the quarterback on the other side of

1441
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:28,000
Speaker 4: the ball, which they have not been able.

1442
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 3: To do the last two years. Is why they can't

1443
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:31,759
Speaker 3: get off the field on third now it's.

1444
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:35,560
Speaker 5: One of the reasons. Yeah, they have bolstered the secondary

1445
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:42,480
Speaker 5: so far. We've seen that Chubb is gonna help. He's

1446
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 5: a quality, productive NFL defensive end who's gonna know what's

1447
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 5: going on. He'll help. But you're right, they don't and

1448
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 5: haven't had a guy that can outrun everybody on the

1449
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 5: defensive front and out on the offensive front to get

1450
01:12:57,160 --> 01:13:02,680
Speaker 5: around the corner. And they made they may grab a

1451
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 5: guy at the edge, And I know too they'll probably

1452
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 5: draft a stand up guy behind the ball who has

1453
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 5: been a good blitzer, one of those guys that he

1454
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:16,640
Speaker 5: runs the ball down from the inside. You know, I'm

1455
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:19,520
Speaker 5: with you. That's one thing we have not had. We

1456
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 5: the Bills have not had enough of and that speed,

1457
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 5: and a couple of years ago was everywhere. Now I

1458
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:30,839
Speaker 5: think more so with with Max Harrison out there, Benford

1459
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 5: playing the way he's playing, they don't. They don't miss

1460
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 5: the speed in the secondary as much a Bishop is

1461
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 5: much more athletic, But up front, they they have lacked that,

1462
01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:44,719
Speaker 5: particularly when they've got their front guys hurt. Frontline guy's hurt,

1463
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 5: Ed being out, Bernard being hurt, Milano being in and

1464
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 5: out of the lineup. That really their speed suffers because

1465
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 5: of that. I think that needs to be one of

1466
01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:56,840
Speaker 5: the more important traits they get in.

1467
01:13:56,800 --> 01:14:00,160
Speaker 4: These draft Andrew on the tweet, he says, I would say,

1468
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:02,760
Speaker 4: after you pick up a nose tackle, then a linebacker,

1469
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 4: then defensive end. After that, whether it's offense or defense,

1470
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 4: you take best player available in the draft, and then

1471
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:11,559
Speaker 4: you get on the phone asap and start contacting players

1472
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:12,480
Speaker 4: that went undrafted.

1473
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:15,600
Speaker 3: Wretches like the stock market, a.

1474
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 4: Lot of phone calls, a lot of negotiating, a lot

1475
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 4: of signing bonus discussion to get a player to come

1476
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 4: to you that went undrafted.

1477
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 3: Nose tackle Steve First.

1478
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:31,720
Speaker 4: There might be some guys worthy of the twenty six

1479
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 4: pick down there, like a Caiden McDonald from Ohio State

1480
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:38,759
Speaker 4: for example. Okay with that who I think is having

1481
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:42,720
Speaker 4: watched him, Caiden McDonald is more than just a two

1482
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:44,559
Speaker 4: down nose tackle.

1483
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 3: He can do more than that for you.

1484
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 4: You get a guy like Lee Hunter, the Texas Tech kid.

1485
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 4: He's more of a two down traditional run stuffing guy.

1486
01:14:57,439 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 4: He can push the pocket a little bit, but he's

1487
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 4: not getting to a quarterback.

1488
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 3: He's just not doing that.

1489
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's hard to I know the three down guys

1490
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 5: opposed to the two down guy, meaning one guy is

1491
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:11,719
Speaker 5: a really good run stopper, but he can't rush the passer.

1492
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 5: The three down guy does both. He can really rush

1493
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 5: the passer, but he's also responsible in the run game.

1494
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 5: You know, with the way offenses are run in the

1495
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 5: NFL these days, if the guy's out there and he

1496
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 5: has limitations, the offense is going to exploit them. If

1497
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 5: you got your run defense defenders on the field, they're

1498
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:31,719
Speaker 5: going to be thrown on first down or second down,

1499
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 5: no matter the distance, because that's where you're you know,

1500
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:36,680
Speaker 5: because the quarterback is gonna have time to do it.

1501
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 5: You need as many guys who can play as many

1502
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 5: different situations and play it well as you can get.

1503
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:46,600
Speaker 5: I am the positionless football is on its way and

1504
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 5: a lot of places is here and I and that

1505
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:52,000
Speaker 5: goes for the big heavies up front too. They've got

1506
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 5: to be able to do everything and do it well. Yeah,

1507
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 5: So I'm I'm all for a front seven defender at

1508
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 5: the top of this draft, particularly drafted at twenty six.

1509
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 5: And I don't know, it wouldn't change if they were

1510
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:09,719
Speaker 5: drafting six.

1511
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 3: I wouldn't.

1512
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 4: I wouldn't put it past them that they take three

1513
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 4: players that would line up in the front seven. I mean,

1514
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 4: if you have it Andrew's way, nose tackle, linebacker, pass rusher,

1515
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 4: that's three right there out of the seven picks you have.

1516
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 4: And you know, the board has to follow a certain

1517
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:29,760
Speaker 4: way for that to unfold and happen as well. But

1518
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 4: I wouldn't put it past him. They need, they need

1519
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:36,760
Speaker 4: answers in the front seven on that side of the.

1520
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 5: Ball, and they did, and I'm with you.

1521
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:39,400
Speaker 3: Brownie.

1522
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 5: I'm and look, last year they did the exact same thing.

1523
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 3: They drafted three defensive linemen TJ.

1524
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:51,600
Speaker 5: Sanders, Landon Jackson, Dion.

1525
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:53,720
Speaker 3: Walker, all in recession, one after the other.

1526
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 5: And that was after Max.

1527
01:16:56,560 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, so the first four picks were defenseive players before

1528
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:01,559
Speaker 4: they took Jackson.

1529
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 3: Haws.

1530
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 5: Keep doing it, just get the If they get the

1531
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:08,599
Speaker 5: right guy, nobody cares. None of us care, right, I mean,

1532
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:10,760
Speaker 5: let's face it, nobody cares. If you get a guy

1533
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 5: that turns into an All Pro, that doesn't matter if

1534
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 5: you took him one or seven. Take him, that's good.

1535
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 5: Nobody's gonna care about the draft spot. But you got

1536
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:23,720
Speaker 5: to keep you got to keep taking swings at it.

1537
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:24,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1538
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:27,800
Speaker 4: Pete on the tweets sheet says, trade our number one

1539
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 4: for a second and third, giving us eight picks, five

1540
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:35,719
Speaker 4: on defense and then three on offense. Pete says edge

1541
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 4: two linebackers, nose, tackle, and corner on defense, the two

1542
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 4: on offense, wide receiver and O line. I can get

1543
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:48,360
Speaker 4: behind that approach.

1544
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 5: Right, if you're looking to get into this, into this

1545
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 5: what you can get for your twenty six pick of

1546
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 5: the draft. On the value chart I'm looking at, say

1547
01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 5: the number twenty six pick is worth seven hundred points.

1548
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 5: You've got to go. It would be the it would

1549
01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 5: be equal to too late round second, too late in

1550
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 5: the round second round picks like a fifty six to

1551
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 5: fifty seven picks, right, it would be worth the fifty

1552
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 5: fifth and the fifty sixth pick. Or you could get higher.

1553
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:24,599
Speaker 5: You could go down to the forties, you'd get the

1554
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 5: fortieth pick, and then you'd have to go all the

1555
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 5: way to the you know, to the top around three.

1556
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 5: So you can get a high two and a high

1557
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 5: three or two mid to late round twos for what

1558
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:44,720
Speaker 5: the Bills have got number twenty six. Now you know

1559
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:46,640
Speaker 5: whether which team. I don't think there's some very very

1560
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:48,719
Speaker 5: many teams who have two high twos they're gonna trade

1561
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 5: to get up nine spots or twenty you know, fifteen

1562
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 5: spots right right. So that's a hard thing to get

1563
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 5: people to say yes to. So it sounds really good

1564
01:18:57,479 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 5: to trade for that number twenty six pick and get

1565
01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 5: the Bills out of the first You gotta find somebody

1566
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:05,559
Speaker 5: to say yes, and that's not easy. That's not easy

1567
01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 5: because they're gonna see the board at least in a

1568
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:11,920
Speaker 5: similar fashion to you ain't nobody worth twenty six. You know,

1569
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 5: I'm saying this in this scenario. So we're not gonna

1570
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 5: we're gonna give up these two picks for that one.

1571
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 5: There's nobody there we want that bad. We're just like you,

1572
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 5: although all it takes is one and there are some

1573
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 5: teams out there who are desperate for help. Pete Prisco

1574
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 5: in this last segment said, the Bills are the top

1575
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:34,719
Speaker 5: three rosters in the league.

1576
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'm just trying to look at the value

1577
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 4: chard here. Like if the Bills went from twenty six

1578
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 4: and slid back to forty one in a deal with Cincinnati,

1579
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:48,120
Speaker 4: they could get Cincinnati's pick at forty one and then

1580
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 4: they're pick at seventy two in round three, so that

1581
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:54,120
Speaker 4: puts him in the first eight picks in round three,

1582
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:56,760
Speaker 4: and then they still have their other pick at ninety one.

1583
01:19:57,080 --> 01:20:00,080
Speaker 5: If the Bills did that, they would have to throw in.

1584
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:00,160
Speaker 6: And.

1585
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:03,639
Speaker 3: I don't they have to throw in much of anything.

1586
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 5: It's they got forty, the pick forty one's I got,

1587
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 5: and the.

1588
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 3: Thirty it's seven, it's seven ten.

1589
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 5: They contend they would throw in that, they would throw in,

1590
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 5: have to throw in. They're just do the deal.

1591
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:24,920
Speaker 3: You're off by ten points. Yeah, you kidding me, they're going.

1592
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 5: To do it. You have to throw in your one

1593
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:26,880
Speaker 5: eighty two pick back.

1594
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:29,599
Speaker 4: No, not doing the Cincinnati. You can add my seven,

1595
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 4: take my seven. Please just do the deal. It's a

1596
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:36,080
Speaker 4: ten point difference.

1597
01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 7: That's nothing.

1598
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 5: They're not gonna do it.

1599
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 3: Oh, stop it. Deal, they're not going to do it.

1600
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 5: Throw in your seventh.

1601
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:47,719
Speaker 4: Never exactly throw it as it's close. Swap swap their sevens,

1602
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:49,719
Speaker 4: which are one pick away from each other, to twenty

1603
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:51,800
Speaker 4: and two twenty one. Let's swap our sevens, and it's

1604
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 4: a deal.

1605
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:53,680
Speaker 5: No, nobody's gonna do that.

1606
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:55,879
Speaker 3: See those all the time, the pick swaps.

1607
01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's it's the two seventeen for the two

1608
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:03,599
Speaker 5: forty one. Swap. That's what it is. You're not gonna

1609
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 5: get it done. You're not gonna get it done.

1610
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:09,439
Speaker 3: Well, then swap this.

1611
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 5: It depends on the on the player that's up there.

1612
01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:16,639
Speaker 5: If if Cincinnati covets a player at twenty six, that's what.

1613
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 3: They have at ten points, they'll do the deal.

1614
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:19,920
Speaker 5: That's what they would have to give up. They'd have

1615
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:21,639
Speaker 5: to give up the ten points on the value chart,

1616
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:25,760
Speaker 5: which is equivalent to a something other than like a

1617
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:28,639
Speaker 5: late sixth round dress a late six, a mid six

1618
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 5: two a mid six.

1619
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:35,400
Speaker 3: You want the guy? Do the deal man? Ten points?

1620
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 3: What are we talking about here?

1621
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 5: Come on, that's the sacrifice.

1622
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 4: I mean, really, you're not gonna get the guy you

1623
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 4: want because of ten points on the value chart. You

1624
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:45,920
Speaker 4: are Cincinnati more than I thought you were.

1625
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 5: I know what I mean in this scenario. Yes, I

1626
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 5: am Ray.

1627
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:55,799
Speaker 4: On the tweets sheet says no particular order defense, four

1628
01:21:56,840 --> 01:22:02,759
Speaker 4: edge middle linebacker, safety, nose tackle offense, three wide receiver,

1629
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:06,599
Speaker 4: guard and then a full back slash h back. One

1630
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 4: more thing based on some of our recent horrendous officiating calls,

1631
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 4: I'll take the replacements.

1632
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 5: Wow, from the top rope, Ray coming in hard. Give

1633
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 5: me the replacements.

1634
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 3: Until they mess up royally and cost us a game,

1635
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 3: and then get the where are the real reps? Get

1636
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 3: a mask, sign the deal.

1637
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:32,639
Speaker 5: I get it right from the top rope.

1638
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 3: Give me the replace the replacements. Horrendous officiating. He's not wrong.

1639
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 5: We're in March. We're like March.

1640
01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 3: He's like me, give me not a catch? That was

1641
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:43,719
Speaker 3: a pick?

1642
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:46,280
Speaker 7: Okay?

1643
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 3: Wow, Ray's running hot for late March.

1644
01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 5: I'm right there with love times.

1645
01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:53,639
Speaker 3: I love the passion.

1646
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 5: I get there. I can get there.

1647
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:58,000
Speaker 3: But four defense, three offense, I don't.

1648
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:01,680
Speaker 4: I think the max is two on offense unless the

1649
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:04,400
Speaker 4: board falls some kind of wonky way and you know,

1650
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 4: best available as an offensive player.

1651
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 3: You know later in the draft, well, I think it's

1652
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:09,599
Speaker 3: five to two.

1653
01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 5: I don't know. You could get the third guy. If

1654
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 5: it's you could back h back, if you get a

1655
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:17,560
Speaker 5: guy that all of a sudden turns into Reggie Gilliam.

1656
01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:20,680
Speaker 3: Reggie was undrafted, just get undrafted.

1657
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:22,600
Speaker 5: Full well, okay, but if you're gonna draft him and

1658
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:26,800
Speaker 5: he turns into Reggie Gillim, nobody cares, right sure, So yeah,

1659
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 5: I'm okay with that. At the at the seventh, you know,

1660
01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 5: you got to get your first four though, in your

1661
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:34,439
Speaker 5: first five pick. I think four defenders in the first

1662
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:36,120
Speaker 5: five or six picks.

1663
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 4: I find safety an interesting choice here for some of

1664
01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 4: his defensive He's got four defensive picks edge, middle, linebacker, safety,

1665
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:50,880
Speaker 4: nos tackle. Now they signed two veteran safeties. They have

1666
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:54,320
Speaker 4: Jordan Hancock, and they've got Cole Bishop. Like they've got

1667
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:56,559
Speaker 4: five safeties on the roster. I don't think they need

1668
01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:58,639
Speaker 4: to draft another young guy. You got your young guy

1669
01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:02,639
Speaker 4: in the pipeline. That's Hancock, unless they have other plans

1670
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:03,599
Speaker 4: for him or one of those.

1671
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:06,599
Speaker 5: Lafe Handcock has disappointed in some way, shape or form

1672
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 5: that we're not aware of the fact that you couldn't

1673
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:11,200
Speaker 5: get on the field last year. Maybe it was a

1674
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:14,599
Speaker 5: complexity of the defense. Maybe Jim Leonard, being a former

1675
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 5: safety himself, can cultivate some growth.

1676
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:18,639
Speaker 3: Tutor him.

1677
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, and all of a sudden it's like, wow, we're

1678
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:22,200
Speaker 5: this Where was Hancock last year?

1679
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 3: Right?

1680
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 5: That kind of thing. Maybe that's on the table.

1681
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 3: My point is that you have got some five you

1682
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 3: got guys, so.

1683
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 5: Or four? Four?

1684
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:34,679
Speaker 3: What am I doing?

1685
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 4: My math is off four. I guess you can add

1686
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 4: a fifth if you really want. I mean, you still

1687
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:44,280
Speaker 4: might add a fifth. And free agency right, their price

1688
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:47,840
Speaker 4: has come way down. Got Gardner, Johnson and Gino Stone

1689
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 4: on one of your deals and that was a week ago.

1690
01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 4: Imagine where the market is now at safety. I think

1691
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:55,560
Speaker 4: it's somebody for the minimum.

1692
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:57,880
Speaker 3: So that's an option too.

1693
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 4: Last break of the show, he when we come back,

1694
01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:05,559
Speaker 4: an interesting story that will make everybody smile about the

1695
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 4: state of society today.

1696
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:09,479
Speaker 3: It's one you don't want to miss.

1697
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 4: We'll share it with you next here on One Bill's Live,

1698
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:12,800
Speaker 4: presented by Colida Health.

1699
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:29,000
Speaker 3: All right, back here on One Bill's Live.

1700
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:33,040
Speaker 4: And every so often things pop up in our feed

1701
01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:38,120
Speaker 4: Shall we say that don't run in concert with the

1702
01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:40,640
Speaker 4: main aim of the information gathering that we do for

1703
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:45,440
Speaker 4: this show to entertain you, But they are nonetheless entertaining

1704
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 4: all by themselves. And Steve relaid this one to me

1705
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:54,640
Speaker 4: while we were preparing for the show today, and it

1706
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:58,000
Speaker 4: is such a it's such a I don't know how

1707
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:00,640
Speaker 4: to describe it other than to say it's such a

1708
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 4: piece of modern Americana.

1709
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:04,760
Speaker 5: It's relatable. Yeah.

1710
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:08,559
Speaker 4: And so this takes place at a popular fast food

1711
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:11,840
Speaker 4: restaurant that will remain nameless, but Steve has the story.

1712
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:14,639
Speaker 5: So the guy wrote this is about six months old,

1713
01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:17,559
Speaker 5: and it came across my timeline finally. And the guy

1714
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:20,360
Speaker 5: says he pulled up to the restaurant with his dog,

1715
01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 5: dog named Nugget, and the guy guy in the drawer,

1716
01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 5: he driving drive through lane. Uh, And the guy in

1717
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:29,559
Speaker 5: the window says, Oh, that's a cute dog. What's his name?

1718
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 5: And I said Nugget. He asked if Nugget wants a treat?

1719
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:34,760
Speaker 5: And I say yes, it's gonna think he's gonna be

1720
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:37,040
Speaker 5: a dog bone or some other form of treat like

1721
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:38,920
Speaker 5: you know some of the other restaurants do. And the

1722
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:41,559
Speaker 5: guy disappears for a minute. He comes back and hands

1723
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:47,360
Speaker 5: the driver an entire bag of chicken nuggets, A bag,

1724
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 5: not one. A bag. He hands him His dog was

1725
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:52,960
Speaker 5: happier than he's ever seen him in his life. I

1726
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:56,679
Speaker 5: thank the guy the kid, and the kid goes, no sweat.

1727
01:26:56,720 --> 01:27:00,160
Speaker 5: It's my last day. I'm giving out free stuff like crazy.

1728
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:05,280
Speaker 5: You want a hat or something? Absolute legendary nugget reached

1729
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:06,400
Speaker 5: the place five stars.

1730
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:10,040
Speaker 3: I got an entire bag.

1731
01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 5: Chicken nuggets, says, you want anything else, like you want

1732
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:15,799
Speaker 5: a hat?

1733
01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:19,360
Speaker 3: Beat that. That is good timing.

1734
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 5: And it's there's a picture of nuggets sitting next The

1735
01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:24,960
Speaker 5: bag is bigger than nugget. Oh my god, he ate

1736
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:30,040
Speaker 5: himself full of nugget. Chicken nuggets is great.

1737
01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:31,080
Speaker 3: I'm giving a waste.

1738
01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 5: It's my last dam. I'm getting wayte stuff all the time.

1739
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:34,599
Speaker 3: I don't care.

1740
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 5: I just don't care. You want a hat?

1741
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:40,240
Speaker 4: Oh, that's the best I've I've come across people that

1742
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:43,519
Speaker 4: do some special things on their last day at work

1743
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 4: at a place that.

1744
01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:47,280
Speaker 3: They no longer care for Bless their heart.

1745
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:50,800
Speaker 4: They're just like, I came here to just make some

1746
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:55,880
Speaker 4: money and I don't need this job anymore. ABC later

1747
01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:58,280
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna have some fun here. On the last day,

1748
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:03,640
Speaker 4: I am, I am checked out giving away bags of

1749
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:05,200
Speaker 4: nuggets and god knows what.

1750
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:06,599
Speaker 5: Else anything else you wants?

1751
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:09,679
Speaker 3: What do you think? He also handed out for free.

1752
01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 5: Oh gotta be like packages, and like napkin package. You know,

1753
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:15,040
Speaker 5: people always have napkins in their car. Stuff. Here, here's

1754
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 5: a package of napkin you know, stuff like that. Yeah,

1755
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:18,639
Speaker 5: for the hat.

1756
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:22,879
Speaker 3: You need a peril that's.

1757
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:24,880
Speaker 5: Great, you want an apron?

1758
01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 3: Got an extra broom back here too.

1759
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:30,960
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, I'm not cleaning at the end of

1760
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:33,439
Speaker 5: my shit enough. I've I've never been in the spot

1761
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:34,920
Speaker 5: where it was my last day and I and I

1762
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:36,759
Speaker 5: was like gonna kick him as I went out the door.

1763
01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:39,320
Speaker 5: So I've never really been in that spot. But man,

1764
01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:40,920
Speaker 5: oh man, I can imagine.

1765
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 4: I would say the closest I came. Me and my

1766
01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 4: buddy got hired to paint a house for the summer.

1767
01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:51,920
Speaker 4: We had to scrape the house first, Peter Shake, I

1768
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:53,879
Speaker 4: had to scrape it first, then.

1769
01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 3: Paint it and Primate painted two of us. There's a

1770
01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:59,080
Speaker 3: big house. It took us almost the whole summer.

1771
01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:02,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then this guy could not have been more difficult, like, well,

1772
01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:04,439
Speaker 4: I need you to put an extra code over here.

1773
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:06,680
Speaker 3: And I'm dodging bee hives every like.

1774
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:11,000
Speaker 4: Oh, it was miserable, and so I think the last day,

1775
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 4: I can't remember what equipment.

1776
01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:14,000
Speaker 5: He had and built a can of paint on his

1777
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:14,639
Speaker 5: front door.

1778
01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:17,360
Speaker 4: He had some stuff in the garage and he had

1779
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:20,320
Speaker 4: a carpet and it was accidental. My buddy knocked a

1780
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:22,720
Speaker 4: can of paint onto the carpet. We didn't tell him

1781
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:24,599
Speaker 4: because it was our last day. We're like, he can

1782
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:25,559
Speaker 4: find out on his own.

1783
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:27,599
Speaker 3: We got out of there.

1784
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:29,320
Speaker 5: He deserved it, Brownie.

1785
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:31,880
Speaker 3: It's in the Passo tomorrow. Steve's off.

1786
01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:35,479
Speaker 4: We'll see you on Friday at one