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Speaker 1: I listen to the Black Guy Who Tips podcast because

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Speaker 1: Rot and Karen are hot.

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Speaker 2: If we are mindful in every moment, the other steps

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Speaker 2: on the path become easier to take. You won't be perfect,

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Speaker 2: you will make mistakes, but our mistakes are even more

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Speaker 2: valuable for our growth than getting it all quote unquote right.

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Speaker 2: Areas that are difficult for us to work with that

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Speaker 2: we make a lot of mistakes. In that we gain

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Speaker 2: our greatest experiences. We learn deep truths from our most

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Speaker 2: trying experiences. So if we have a tendency to be arrogant,

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Speaker 2: conceded to self righteous, are just lazy, we have to

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Speaker 3: Is equally important to walk in the path. In fact,

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Speaker 3: the only.

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Speaker 2: Way the Buddha could possibly have figured out this path

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Speaker 3: Mindful, full of mind.

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Speaker 2: Whatever we are working with or experiencing in this moment

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Speaker 2: be complete. By praying, by paying full attention to our thoughts,

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Speaker 2: we are able to focus and let go of the

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Speaker 2: excess chatter. Our intentions are clear and thought out. When

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Speaker 2: others with them. When mindfulness is applied to action, we

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Speaker 2: find that we are more graceful and fluid because we

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Speaker 2: are more certain of ourselves. Hey, welcome to the Blackout

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Speaker 2: Tips podcast. I'm your host, Rod joined us always with

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Speaker 2: my co host Karen, and we are alive on a Sunday,

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Speaker 2: And that excerpt today is from You Know Being Black

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Speaker 2: by Angel Kyoto Williams. And in that chapter she's talking

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Speaker 2: And in this chapter she's just talking about like some

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Speaker 2: Like like how to walk this path of a Buddhist

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Speaker 2: And so when you embrace that, it's more like you

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Speaker 2: Stay safe out there, y'all, let's get into the news.

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Speaker 5: Yes, before we get into the news, I have a

444
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 5: random thought. I have two random thoughts. Actually, my first

445
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 5: random thought was not really a random thought. It's more

446
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 5: of a statement. And I was kind of joking about it,

447
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:51,880
Speaker 5: but I realized that, you know, because it's getting ready

448
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 5: pumpkins spice season.

449
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 4: You know, all the basic bitches coming out of the closet.

450
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 4: You know, they tied all this heat. They're ready to

451
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 4: you know, step out of they ugs, they scars and stuff.

452
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 5: And it's also cider season. So I am a basic

453
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,199
Speaker 5: bitch because I like, I got you to get me.

454
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 5: You Yeah, I got you to get me the Angry

455
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 5: Orchard hard Apple cider.

456
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Speaker 4: And I fucking love it. Like I've been seeing commercials

457
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:18,439
Speaker 4: for it, and I'd.

458
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 5: Be like, oh, that looks so good, you know, because

459
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 5: I see the people with like the craft beers, and

460
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 5: I like the craft beers and stuff too, But you know,

461
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 5: I know, cider is like basics.

462
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 4: I was like, well, fuck it, I want it. And

463
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 4: you know what y'all do. Pictures is d delicious and

464
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 4: people were coming up with like all the flavors and

465
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,199
Speaker 4: shit like that. I didn't know they make I might

466
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 4: be getting on that shit too. That might be me

467
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Speaker 4: all winter long.

468
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Speaker 2: Okay, that's interesting random thought, being that you have had

469
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Speaker 2: that many many times before and have enjoyed it for years,

470
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Speaker 2: I guess.

471
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Speaker 3: You yeah, yeah again, yes, because.

472
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Speaker 2: You order it when we go out to bars and

473
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 2: when we get drinks and the same.

474
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Speaker 3: It's just it's it's just the same thing that bad

475
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Speaker 3: that was.

476
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Speaker 2: Okay, It's just I thought you were gonna say it

477
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 2: was Pumpkins vice fav or something.

478
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 4: But it's just I think that said that got something.

479
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 3: It's just the same.

480
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 2: It's the same one you like Hardpa. It's nothing basic

481
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 2: about It's good.

482
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 4: I absolutely love it.

483
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 5: And uh my second randoms out and Roger was picking

484
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 5: that meant about me about this this morning?

485
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,679
Speaker 4: Uh, Amazon Prime, y'all it's a drug.

486
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:27,199
Speaker 2: Uh.

487
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Speaker 4: And I realized that for me, I have to do

488
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,439
Speaker 4: it in small doses. So what I do is I

489
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 4: trick myself.

490
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,120
Speaker 5: I order small pieces and then I take the rest

491
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Speaker 5: of them and put them in the safe for Lady Powell.

492
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 5: And then you know, eventually I let a few months

493
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Speaker 5: go by and like I.

494
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 4: Slowly start or things off of my list.

495
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 5: So I can kind of fool myself into idult in

496
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 5: the diction because and the thing is Amazon is like

497
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 5: a drug because, uh, you be minding your business and

498
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 5: then all of a sudden you be on Facebook and

499
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 5: the shit that you clicked on, you know, just on

500
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 5: the own Google or something, but like, hey, you remember this,

501
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 5: or you know you on Twitter and.

502
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 4: You just grown it down.

503
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Speaker 5: I was like, hey, you remember when you talked about this,

504
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 5: and so you know, it's constantly flashing the drugs in

505
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 5: my face. So I'd be like, you know what, I

506
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 5: can't take all the drugs at once, so I'm going

507
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,679
Speaker 5: to slowly put it into my veins. Don't need none

508
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 5: of it most of the time. But yeah, Amazon is

509
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 5: a drug.

510
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I noticed you got something that had an extra garlic

512
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 2: press in it. But I already have a garlic press

513
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 2: that I just got, So it was like, what's this about?

514
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Speaker 3: You know?

515
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Speaker 5: Yes, I had bought some spices and I it came

516
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,239
Speaker 5: like four or five spices, and I didn't realize it

517
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 5: had like a garlic press and like this little thing

518
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 5: you can put up on the water house measurements all

519
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 5: included in the package.

520
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Speaker 4: I just bought the package. I was like, oh, I

521
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 4: want the spices.

522
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Speaker 5: I just bought the package, and so I was like, oh, okay,

523
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 5: extra got it?

524
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Speaker 4: Press shit, bro, I mean we got thirty.

525
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I added you do my Amazon Prime this year,

526
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 2: so that because I already had was on Amazon Prime

527
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 2: or whatever, and then you would just order stuff off

528
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 2: a regular Amazon. But yeah, they have like an option

529
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 2: where you can add family and stuff to it, and

530
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 2: they can use like the whatever payment method you use

531
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Speaker 2: or whatever, so.

532
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 3: You know, I never get to see what you buy.

533
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 2: I just you know, like when it shows up, I'm

534
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 2: just as surprised or whatever. But yeah, that Amazon Prime,

535
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 2: it can be addictive, and especially the.

536
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 4: If especially the no ship or feet that would get me.

537
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, the shipping where it gets here in like a

538
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 3: day or two.

539
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 4: Yeah. And how they really get you is it they

540
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 4: pressure you. They'll be like, ooh, if you order.

541
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Speaker 5: This within the next fifteen minutes, you can get it

542
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Speaker 5: by the end of the day.

543
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,400
Speaker 4: You'd be like, well, bitch, you know what, I think

544
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 4: I do want this by the end of the day.

545
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Speaker 2: A lot of times it's not even really true either,

546
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Speaker 2: Like I've noticed that sometimes maybe it's because of the pandemic,

547
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 2: but sometimes they'll tell you like you can get this

548
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 2: by Wednesday, and they I really won't get it till

549
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 2: Thursday Friday.

550
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 3: I'm like, why would you lying.

551
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 2: Like y'all was just gonna drive by my house and

552
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 2: drop it off that night, you know. And then sometimes

553
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 2: it is a surprise or they really will be like,

554
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 2: you know, order this now, you can get this by

555
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 2: blank and then you just look up at go open

556
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 2: your door and it's already out there. It's like, damn, what,

557
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 2: like do y'all got some people working at my house?

558
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 2: How y'all got this?

559
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 5: And I know that I am the problem of why

560
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 5: Amazon is working on drones and why Amazon is working

561
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 5: on like these little robots to kind of go through

562
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 5: the neighborhood. I know that I am the problem because

563
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 5: I'm like, okay.

564
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 4: I want it fast.

565
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 5: I'm the reason why Amazon is like going to your

566
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 5: local mall and buying up like the old Diluts and

567
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 5: turn it into an Amazon Prime store. That's why capitalism

568
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 5: is gonna win, so that so that you know they're

569
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 5: gonna suck around and be like, oh, you want something,

570
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 5: we can literally get it to you less than an hour.

571
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 3: It's why I'm not down with no name.

572
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 2: I'm team Beyonce and j Cole because capitalism gonna win,

573
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 2: it's too late.

574
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 4: We all part of the problem into it.

575
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 2: I'm not down with socialism that takes three weeks to

576
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 2: get my packages.

577
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 3: I need my shit the next day.

578
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 2: And if that comes at the cost of you know,

579
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 2: somebody's labor being underpaid, I'm gonna forever be part of

580
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:22,199
Speaker 2: the problem.

581
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 3: You know. I wish I could be better than that,

582
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 3: but I'm not. Let's just be honest. We need this.

583
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 3: Embrace our mistakes and accept our mindfulness.

584
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 4: I wish I could be better than that too.

585
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 5: I know that I am definitely a part of the problem.

586
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 5: I don't know how to fix this crack addiction. I mean,

587
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 5: I don't know what to tell y'all.

588
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, uh, you know who else has problems?

589
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 3: John Gray? That's right.

590
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 2: I'm skipping coronavirus news today. Like I said, we gotta

591
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 2: go it for I'm a man who needs the same

592
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 2: Jesus I preach about.

593
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 3: John Gray apologized for his lady's cheating scandal.

594
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 4: Ain't just with number two or three.

595
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 3: I lost count.

596
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a bunch of them.

597
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 3: You know. But I'm just happy that he's owning it,

598
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 3: you know.

599
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 2: He's apologizing, letting people know, Hey, I'm sorry about this.

600
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 4: She gonna mess around and get her another car.

601
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 3: She might get a house this time a strong black woman.

602
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 2: Uh that he can, you know, pull out here and

603
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 2: let people know she's still with me.

604
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 3: Y'all, everything's okay because you can keep coming to church.

605
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 4: Mm hm, y'all ain't got no boats, but you know what,

606
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 4: she's about to get the boat. Uh.

607
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 2: Some weeks ago, we reported that pastor John Gray has

608
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 2: been caught in another inappropriate, sexually suggestive relationship with a

609
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 2: woman other than his wife. Yeah, and this one it

610
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 2: sounded like he definitely must have sucked her. Like the

611
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 2: other one he said was an emotional affair, so I

612
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 2: don't know how much proof she had. But this one

613
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: he was talking about putting on bikini and taking trip

614
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 2: together on a private jet. You're not doing that and

615
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 2: not fucking just looking at her.

616
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 3: Come to Hawaii and let's pray together. You know.

617
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 2: Not only he was she was he sending those woman

618
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 2: money so listening to pictures of her sexual nature. He

619
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 2: exacerbated the situation by involving his son and communicating with

620
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Speaker 2: the woman who was not only recording their exchanges but

621
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Speaker 2: saving them in the attempt to eventually set sent them

622
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: out to the media. Yeah, that's another thing too. I

623
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 2: don't know in this day and age, why you think

624
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 2: you can cheat and just trust this. Yes, like she'd

625
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Speaker 2: be a fool not to record it. Uh.

626
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Speaker 3: Those of you who have been following John Gray and

627
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 3: know that this is not.

628
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Speaker 2: The first time his actions with women other than his

629
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 2: wife have lended him in the news. And unlike last time,

630
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 2: we hear his wife preached together about his brokenness and

631
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 2: the strange woman who attempted to destroy their marriage and

632
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Speaker 2: the church. Gray up here is seated alone on the

633
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Speaker 2: darken stage. Oh you know it's bad when they up

634
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 2: there alone. Okay, she she finally had enough even Uh.

635
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 2: I think Andrew Gillim doing the interview to night with

636
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Speaker 2: his wife, you know, after he got caught in the

637
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 2: hotel room with them dudes in the drugs. So like,

638
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 2: you know, like these women will stand by you when

639
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 2: you're out here embarrassing them. But I guess, you know,

640
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 2: second times a charm.

641
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 3: I don't know.

642
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's like I was out there the first time,

643
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 4: but now I can't do it twice.

644
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 2: He said, I just want to take a moment to

645
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 2: say that you relentless church, to the Body of Christ,

646
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 2: to those who have looked to me as an example

647
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 2: of leadership and pastor or oversight.

648
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 3: I want to take this moment to tell you I'm sorry.

649
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 2: I'm sorry for the areas of my life that I

650
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 2: left unattended, that I was apathetic about, the areas where

651
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 2: I've treated the calling of God, the grace of God,

652
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 2: the hand of God casually in my life, For every

653
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 2: area of behavior that has dishonored the holiness of God.

654
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 2: I want to tell you I'm sorry. I want details.

655
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 2: That was very vague, you know what I mean, Like,

656
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 2: I want you to be like, I'm sorry for them

657
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 2: trips I took. I'm sorry. I definitely did fuck that woman.

658
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 2: Sorry about that. Sorry, embarrassed in front of my kid.

659
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 2: Use my kid on that video.

660
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Speaker 3: Y'all saw that. It was crazy. What was I thinking?

661
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 3: There was a number There have been a number of

662
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Speaker 3: things blogs.

663
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 2: Some of it I accurate, some of it not, but

664
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Speaker 2: all of it my responsibility.

665
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 3: I apologize for putting the name. Hey when they do that.

666
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 2: Tell me the details. Some of it's accurate, what's accurate,

667
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 2: some of us not. We ain't no need to get

668
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 2: in all that just I apologized putting my name the

669
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 2: name of God in Harn's way, and I and I

670
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 2: take the responsibility for the actions that harm to injure

671
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 2: God's sheep.

672
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 3: No matter how many.

673
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 2: Pseudo excuses one can hurl in a moment like this

674
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 2: for the purposes of self preservation, all of that rings

675
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 2: hollow when all of that, all that is truly needed

676
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 2: is the truth.

677
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 3: My prayer to you for you in this moment is

678
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 3: that you.

679
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 2: Will use the discernment of the Holy Spirit to see

680
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 2: if this is remorse or repentance. I have learned that

681
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 2: remorse simply means I'm sad because you found out. Repentance

682
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 2: is if I'm sorrowful, is I'm sorrowful and I will change.

683
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 5: Uh.

684
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 2: He also said he's always struggled with feeling like something

685
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 2: was wrong with him. He said, he man, come on, dog,

686
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 2: you fuck you wanted to fuck women that weren't your wife.

687
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 2: Now he got turned into something else. I just feel

688
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 2: like it's a struggle that you know, I always experienced.

689
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 2: If you were single, it wouldn't be a struggle. It

690
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 2: just be you fucking these women, you know.

691
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 3: What I mean?

692
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 2: Like you made a vow to this woman, and you

693
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 2: embarrassed her in public more than once.

694
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 3: At this point was.

695
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 4: Just own it.

696
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 3: You be cheating. Just own it.

697
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 2: Okay, it's too late, you can't, you know, It's just

698
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 2: something I was struggling.

699
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:38,239
Speaker 3: I don't know.

700
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 2: You said you often ask God why he was chosen?

701
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 2: And God was like, why are you choosing? I mean

702
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 2: that's really yeah, you do you choosing other people?

703
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 3: Right?

704
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 2: And then later why did you you Why did you

705
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 2: raise me up? If you know that my humanity was

706
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 2: gonna explode behind the facade of religious perfection?

707
00:33:58,800 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 3: He said, God.

708
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 2: Told him, why did you raise me up? If you

709
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 2: knew that my humanity was going to explode behind it?

710
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 3: I mean it's humanity probably was exploding all over the

711
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 3: places A lot of places shouldn't have been.

712
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 4: Traveling too.

713
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 3: So yeah, man, it's.

714
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 2: I mean, look, you know my belief system. I believe

715
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 2: all megachurch pastors are atheists that could not resist the griff.

716
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 3: I mean it's tempting.

717
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 2: These people will give you money and power and fame,

718
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 2: and you can do anything like that, like literally, they

719
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 2: will excuse anything. It doesn't matter what the fuck you

720
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 2: tell them you stand for. It's hard to turn that

721
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 2: type of money down, and some of these atheists get

722
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 2: a little too tempted, and it's like, fuck it, I

723
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 2: gotta I want to be a billionaire.

724
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 3: And what I gotta do. Memorize this book, that's it,

725
00:34:58,480 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 3: put on some good.

726
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:03,720
Speaker 2: Suits, some charismatic preaching, and I can be rich.

727
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 3: Shit. I mean, I thought about it, you know, I'll

728
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 3: admit it.

729
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 2: I thought about it, but I just I got a

730
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 2: little too much integrity to do it. But if you

731
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 2: think these are men of God that believe the word

732
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 2: and then consistently be out here flaunting and they rich

733
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 2: ass cars, big ass houses, multiple sex scandals and shit,

734
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 2: Okay for all of that, if y'all want to, I

735
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 2: know an atheist when I see one. Okay, that's a

736
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 2: hustler right there. That's some pump shit that that man

737
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 2: is doing. I'll be surprised if he believe in any

738
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,760
Speaker 2: of that shit. He's just like, listen, I wanted a Ferrari.

739
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 3: And it wasn't gonna happen work. It wasn't gonna happen

740
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 3: working that motherfucking pay less shoes.

741
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 2: So I had to flip this ship. And honestly, it's

742
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 2: just working.

743
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 4: I mean, you possibly could have got it tooke you forever.

744
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 2: Though. Yeah, I knew when I said I wanted a

745
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 2: gold church and the gold church and a private jet,

746
00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 2: I own church, Chimden Rose.

747
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 3: I knew they ain't had nothing to do with God.

748
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 3: God don't. God wasn't sitting around like you can't fly coach. No,

749
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 3: that was me.

750
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 2: Right, God listen when I hollered at the third woman,

751
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 2: like and then the thing is, people defended. I remember

752
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 2: when Eddie Long had the ship where he was having

753
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,919
Speaker 2: sex with underage boys and grooming young men and shit,

754
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 2: and people was literally like, well he need all support.

755
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,439
Speaker 2: You know, you gotta go to church, you gotta help.

756
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 2: I was like, what are y'all talking about?

757
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 3: Like this is against everything he says?

758
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 2: How can he be preje homophobia and then having sex

759
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 2: with other men and then also the hints of pedophilia

760
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 2: and grooming all throughout this, and it was like, yeah,

761
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 2: attendance is still up. I'm like, yes, nothing you can

762
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 2: do wrong if you want the pastor so. I guess

763
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 2: he'll be back in church next week. Maybe he'll take

764
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 2: a break and come back.

765
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 3: But I can't see them not supporting him.

766
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 2: Oh, some people gonna leave but some people support the majority.

767
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 2: You're gonna stay if they stayed through this at this point,

768
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 2: you're staying like a reality TV show, like, oh.

769
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 4: God, what's gonna happen next episode?

770
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 3: Let's see who he fucking this week? I heard this

771
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 3: is gonna be a good one. Good season. Girl.

772
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 2: You followed the YouTube page because uh, he has some

773
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 2: they have some behind the scenes drama. This week, Anita

774
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 2: Hill pledges to vote for Joe Biden and work with

775
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 2: him on gender issues. I mean, she is a black woman,

776
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 2: so I mean, of course she's gonna vote for Joe Biden.

777
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 2: She's not stupid, and she knows how much is on

778
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 2: the line, and she knows that he's better than Trump

779
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 2: regardless of everything.

780
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 3: Like, you know, I feel like the.

781
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 2: Undercurrent of a lot of stuff that's that's being said

782
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 2: but not being said, is that like a lot of

783
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 2: black women are basically coming out and being like, I'm

784
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 2: endorsing Joe Biden, and y'all just gonna have.

785
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 3: To be mad, you know what I mean, Like Angela.

786
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,919
Speaker 2: Davis, like and these aren't people that have no bonafides,

787
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 2: like these are people that Anita Hill is a real.

788
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 3: One, you know what I mean?

789
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 2: Angela Davis is a real one, like you got Stacey

790
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 2: Abrams is a real one. Like they're just coming out

791
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,439
Speaker 2: and being like, I'm trying to tell y'all this shit

792
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:27,240
Speaker 2: is too important.

793
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, just like we tried to tell y'all the first time.

794
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 2: Right, So it's been interesting to see how people are,

795
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 2: you know, how people are trying to play this. But yeah,

796
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 2: it's like I'm trying to tell y'all that we really

797
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 2: don't have time to fuck around anymore.

798
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 4: No, we don't, you know, like y'all himing and hawing

799
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,439
Speaker 4: and what about this? And what about that? Nah, y'all

800
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 4: can do that over there and waste time.

801
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, like we could pretend that we don't know what's

802
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 2: going on right now, but it's really just like they

803
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 2: don't have like there's not even a moment now to

804
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 2: be critical. It's too late for all that for the games, right,

805
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 2: are you still playing games at this point?

806
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 3: You're kind of hopeless.

807
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,439
Speaker 2: So I just thought that was interesting because it's she's

808
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 2: just a long line of women that you know, are

809
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 2: just telling people like, hey, it's Joe Biden.

810
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 3: What the fuck else did y'all think it was gonna be? So,

811
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 3: you know, good for her.

812
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 2: Someone brought up on my Facebook pagen I shared it

813
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 2: was like maybe he could appoint her to the Supreme Court.

814
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 3: I was like, that would be ironic and dope. So

815
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 3: but I don't know. We'll see.

816
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 2: Let's see what else is happening in this news. Oh

817
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 2: doctor dre getting a divorce and his wife's.

818
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 3: Demands.

819
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 2: I don't know what do you call it when you request.

820
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 2: I don't even know what you call it during a

821
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 2: during a court battle. But her like her budget for

822
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 2: how much money she want? The list, Yeah, that shit came.

823
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 2: You know, she like, I need my money, okay, And

824
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 2: so she like, I want my temporary spousand support of

825
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 2: two million dollars a month.

826
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 3: A reasonable song.

827
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 2: And TMZS broke down how much she want for each thing,

828
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:23,720
Speaker 2: laundry and cleaning.

829
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 3: She need ten thousand dollars a month.

830
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 2: Look, if you want spotless whites, it's gonna cost you.

831
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 2: You know a lot of people you know walk around here,

832
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,919
Speaker 2: y'all still got wrinkles in your T shirts and shit,

833
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,760
Speaker 2: you know I get it clothes of course, one hundred

834
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 2: and thirty five thousand dollars a month, Because how you

835
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 2: gonna justify ten thousand dollars dray cleaning bill unless you

836
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 2: got hundreds of thousand dollars of clothes. Come on, stick

837
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 2: with me here, people, you have seventy five dollars of

838
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 2: clothes in your closet and then your laundry bill is

839
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 2: like seven dollars fifty cent a month. Right, she gonna

840
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 2: have millions of dollars worth of clothes closet. Ten thousand

841
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 2: dollars a month for laundry and cleaning ain't nothing, you know,

842
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 2: education intuition sixty thousand a month.

843
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 3: Look these student loans, is they out here? You know?

844
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 4: Like? And do they they have school childrens school age?

845
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 3: Nope, their children are grown. I think it's for her.

846
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 2: I mean she probably put her education on Paul's when

847
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 2: she got married.

848
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 4: Come on, get some degrees.

849
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 2: So, of course, entertainment nine hundred thousand dollars a month.

850
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, when you rich, you can't just be

851
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 2: entertained by the same shit that broke people entertained by

852
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 2: no more. She is accustomed to a certain level of entertainment.

853
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 4: Come on.

854
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 2: Okay, So she needs Beyonce to come to her birthday

855
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 2: party and perform uh you know, uh.

856
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 3: The Lemonade album that's gonna cost her, you know.

857
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 2: And so to have that kind of option that she

858
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 2: would have had while she was with him, taking away

859
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 2: because of a divorce, I don't think so, I don't

860
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 2: think so. Charitable contributions one hundred and twenty five thousand

861
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 2: dollars a month. See, that's the thing. She needs his

862
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 2: money to be able to give it away. You see

863
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So how I'm a giveaway and continue

864
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 2: my charitable contributions that depend on my money, right, So

865
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 2: give me the money so I could give the money

866
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 2: to other people. You know what I'm saying. I'm helping you.

867
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 2: This is your tax right off, you are welcome give

868
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 2: to the community. Mortgage one hundred thousand dollars a month. Now,

869
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 2: I was surprised at that.

870
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 3: Being so low.

871
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's kind of on the end.

872
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think she should actually up that because there's

873
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 2: no way. The mansions they staying is only one hundred

874
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 2: thousand dollars a month.

875
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 3: There's no way.

876
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 2: And if I'm her, I'm not reducing my lifestyle because

877
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 2: this nigga want a divorce. Hello, Like I'm still staying

878
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 2: in my mansions. So and then of course telephone selfh

879
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 2: on the email, twenty thousand dollars a month. You know,

880
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 2: reasonable prices there, I you know, personally, I think a

881
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 2: lot of us were judging that. But do you have

882
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 2: a satellite phone? Have you ever called Mars nigga?

883
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 3: No?

884
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 4: Have you ever reached out to the to the Justice League?

885
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 5: No?

886
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 3: Right? You know what I mean? Any time?

887
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 4: And is it take it takes to get through to

888
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 4: green Landing? Come on?

889
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 3: That shit is a lot dog the galaxy? Right? You know?

890
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 2: So y'all y'all broke, and y'all trying to trying to

891
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 2: get into this.

892
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 3: I don't think so.

893
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 2: By the way, this all started because doctor D got

894
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 2: intoxicated one night on April the first, after twenty some

895
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 2: years of marriage. They were doing fine, and this thing,

896
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 2: you got drunk one night, threw it all the way.

897
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 2: He told her, do not spend one more cent period.

898
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,720
Speaker 2: You can't be mean and disrespectful.

899
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 3: And spend my hard earned money. Fuck that.

900
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 2: Yes, that's a threat. I'm putting the beach house up

901
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 2: for sale next week. She was like, word, I find

902
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 2: the irony in this that doctor dre is so rich.

903
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 2: They haven't This is a rich person's argument. This is

904
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 2: not nwa, doctor Dre. You know this is like he's

905
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 2: come a long way in his lifetime that he's no

906
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 2: longer the person that puts his hands on women. It

907
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 2: seems he's now the man that threatens to sell the

908
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 2: beach house.

909
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 4: Yep, the whole ass beach house.

910
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

911
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 2: She also recalled her alleged incident in which Dre's brother

912
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 2: came to the Malibu home to retrieve a firearm from

913
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 2: doctor Dra.

914
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 3: Oh she's snitching, snitching.

915
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 2: She said she became scared and refuse to hand the

916
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 2: gun over because her husband had a history of violence

917
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 2: and her oh oh, oh you love that, you love that.

918
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 2: She was like, yes, I will marry you. But then

919
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 2: when things all looking at you like this is got

920
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 2: a history of violence, your honor. He's a dangerous, dangerous man,

921
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna need half the money, okay, just to

922
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 2: be safe from him violence and course of control both

923
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 2: before and during the marriage.

924
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 3: She did not elaborate on this claim.

925
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 2: So she might be threatening him because he told her

926
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 2: it was a threat to get out and not spend money.

927
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 3: So maybe she threatened.

928
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 2: Him by like, well, maybe I'm gonna bring up you

929
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 2: might have put your hands on me so maybe he

930
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 2: never stopped putting his hands on people around here. You

931
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 2: never know, but damn they rich. Go stay in the

932
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 2: Mallible house. Sick of your ass, Oh, the Mallible house.

933
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 2: Go summer in the Hamptons. You're getting on my nerves,

934
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 2: y'all up in my space. How come every time I'm

935
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 2: in the west wing of the mansion, you in the

936
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 2: west wing of the mansion.

937
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 4: Go stay in Miami Beach, Florida.

938
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:48,240
Speaker 2: I'm sick of this shit. Okay, go to Hawaii. Okay,

939
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,720
Speaker 2: I'm calling the limo right now. Don't get your ass

940
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 2: because you getting on my goddamn nerves.

941
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 3: Okay.

942
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 4: I would love to have them types of problem shit.

943
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 4: You wouldn't have to call and I'd be like, well,

944
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 4: I'm going okay.

945
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,439
Speaker 2: Jeez, Jeeves, hold on, let me get on the house

946
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 2: in a Let me get on the house in the

947
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 2: corm system so I can ring the help in the

948
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 2: guest house up, jeez, I'm gonna need you to.

949
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 3: Come get her. Yeah, she's in on my motherfucking nerves.

950
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 4: Oh, my shit is already packed.

951
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 2: I am so sick about this shit today. I can't

952
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 2: I can't even take this. No, no matter of fact,

953
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 2: take the take the old Bentley. No, don't know, you

954
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 2: don't get the new Bentley. Not No, twenty twenty, not

955
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:29,760
Speaker 2: not in my house. You better hop in at twenty nineteen. Okay,

956
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 2: mm hmm with the custom heat the leather seats, Yes

957
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,479
Speaker 2: that one, cause you know that one takes a little

958
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 2: bit longer to heat up.

959
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:38,720
Speaker 3: And I'm feeling vindictive today.

960
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 4: And I'm gonna call ahead and let them know to

961
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:42,439
Speaker 4: be prepared for you.

962
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 2: Right this ain't getting a rich divorced. Must be nice,

963
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 2: he called ahead of time.

964
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 4: They'll come to it.

965
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 5: The house is, they're gonna have a house, a favorite

966
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,760
Speaker 5: color of the pool, gonna be a smooth seventy seven degrees,

967
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 5: she know, you know. And she already got like a

968
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 5: staff that probably lives there permanently.

969
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 4: Anyway, it was like, oh shit, now we got right.

970
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 4: I thought we was gonna have the coronavirus off.

971
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 2: I will have your clothes ship from the warehouse to

972
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 2: the beach house because your ass is out of here tonight. Okay,

973
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 2: warm up the private jet. Gas up the private jet,

974
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 2: give her the passport. I'm done. I'm done. I can't

975
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 2: talk to you when you like this. Oh but yeah,

976
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,479
Speaker 2: so it looks like it's going bad between now. Good luck,

977
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 2: good luck everybody, you know how.

978
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, don't try to tell you we get them type

979
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 6: of problems you You ain't got to tell me twice. Shit,

980
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 6: I ain't even packing up my clothes. I got closed

981
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 6: over there already. I'm just gonna take what I got on.

982
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's uh, you know, I hope she gets it though.

983
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 2: It's funny though, because uh, you know, gender wars. Everything

984
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 2: on Twitter, everything on Facebook, everything in the black community

985
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 2: turns into gender wars. So men taking his side, women

986
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 2: taking her side. Yeah, I don't know what the fuck

987
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:56,760
Speaker 2: happened in their relationship or whatever.

988
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 3: I just know this.

989
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 2: They're so rich. I don't have an agenda, m h that.

990
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,439
Speaker 2: I don't understand that life at all. Like that life

991
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 2: is so farm from my life.

992
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 3: I don't have a villain or a good.

993
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 2: Guy to root for in their rich ass divorce. Where

994
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 2: you have to go stay in the beach house, you

995
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Where you have to Okay, I'm

996
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 2: putting the beach house up for sale. Then that'll teach you.

997
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 3: Like, I don't know nothing about that.

998
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 4: The many beach houses that's above my fucking pay grade.

999
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 2: That's like me shitting on an NBA contract. I don't

1000
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 2: know nothing about that.

1001
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 3: I see a lot of y'all upset, like for.

1002
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,280
Speaker 4: What, it's not my money, not my money.

1003
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 2: I'm just worried about evictions coming around and shit in

1004
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 2: the COVID like like I'm not gonna be on lie

1005
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 2: tweeting about doctor Dre and the sheriff knocking at my door.

1006
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 3: Like I don't get how people got some invested, But

1007
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 3: good luck to everybody.

1008
00:48:53,760 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 2: All right, let's get to some games.

1009
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 4: With those black people.

1010
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 2: With is fucking with those black We're just fucking with

1011
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 2: fucking with black people.

1012
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 3: That's right, y'all. It's trying to play the game we

1013
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 3: all hate to play. It's fucking with black people, the

1014
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 3: game that goes all.

1015
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 2: Around the globe, and we played different read news articles

1016
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 2: make it so fucked with a little sign, different scores

1017
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 2: from Zill Ti Hunt, and it wasn't twenty five for

1018
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:28,919
Speaker 2: how much we feel fucked with black people. Today's contestants, everybody,

1019
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 2: Let's see who's fucking with us today, Karen.

1020
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:34,399
Speaker 3: Oh.

1021
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 2: We talked about this a bit on the pregame, but

1022
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,919
Speaker 2: it's still a developing story. We got a secret white

1023
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 2: woman alert, y'all mm hmm, secret white woman alert. You

1024
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 2: guys know how it goes. Yeah, yeah, it happens every

1025
00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:05,439
Speaker 2: once in a while, you get your secret white woman and.

1026
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 3: Here and here we go. I feel.

1027
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 2: It's like, every four years we gotta go through this again.

1028
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 2: The black community has to have this moment where we're like, oh,

1029
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 2: is this really Yeah?

1030
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 4: How they cross the line, How they cross the picket line.

1031
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 2: White woman in the skies who left the gate open,

1032
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:26,240
Speaker 2: You guys know how it goes.

1033
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 3: A white history professor.

1034
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 2: At George Washington University on Thursday ad minute to falsely

1035
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 2: claiming a black identity.

1036
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 3: Jessica A. Krugg wrote in a Medium post, Now this

1037
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 3: is the thing.

1038
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 2: I read the Medium post first and I said what

1039
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 2: And I read the whole thing, and when I finished

1040
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 2: reading it, my first thought was, it's no fucking way

1041
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 2: in hell this woman just came out and told everybody this.

1042
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 4: She must have been being black face mailed.

1043
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 3: She must have been under pressure from somewhere.

1044
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 2: Somebody discovered the jig and was like, we gonna need

1045
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:06,919
Speaker 2: I'm gonna need you to go ahead and come clean,

1046
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:08,720
Speaker 2: like I'm gonna tell everybody.

1047
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 3: What you did. And then she was like, oh, no, no, no,

1048
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go ahead and get out of here. You know,

1049
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 3: I actually I actually am the one that did it.

1050
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like I actually am in

1051
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 3: black face.

1052
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 2: Let me tell everybody on Twitter and Facebook and shit

1053
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 2: before you can tell them, cause that's the only way

1054
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 2: they ever do it. They don't come out and tell

1055
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 2: nobody's shit. You gotta you gotta like find a person

1056
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 2: that has done black face as a black life, I

1057
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 2: don't even know what you call it, Like a person

1058
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 2: that's pretended to be black. You have to go and

1059
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 2: like pull them out. They never give up willingly out

1060
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 2: of the goodness of their heart.

1061
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 5: You know.

1062
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 2: It's so interesting because when black when white people become

1063
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 2: like black people, they end up becoming like you know,

1064
00:51:55,440 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 2: civil rights leadership, Yeah.

1065
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 3: White people. White people try to pass as black. With

1066
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:04,879
Speaker 3: black people try to pass a white We just want

1067
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,439
Speaker 3: to like fit in, you know what I mean.

1068
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 4: We want the amount of attention.

1069
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 2: We just go working like the gas station, you know,

1070
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 2: we go, you know, we go. We just want a

1071
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 2: warehouse job. But when black.

1072
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 5: People manager at the highest inspiration.

1073
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 2: Right, we don't try to get too high, too much involved.

1074
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 2: You know, like every every like maybe you become an

1075
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 2: an actor or something like you like that type of thing,

1076
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 2: like it would help me to be an actor if

1077
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 2: I was white. So I'm just gonna pass because I

1078
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 2: get good acting parts. But it's a deep, dark secret

1079
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,879
Speaker 2: we have to live with forever and all this shit.

1080
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 3: And then of course you get caught, threat of death,

1081
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 3: threat of death.

1082
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 2: You can't just write a medium post and be like, oh, y'all,

1083
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 2: guess what, Tom Hanks.

1084
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 3: I've been black the whole time. You can't do that.

1085
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 3: They gonna kill you because they've been loving you. They

1086
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 3: got a kid. It's like, well, nope, we loved you

1087
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:57,439
Speaker 3: on pure whiteness.

1088
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 2: Okay, you violated, But with us it's I mean, it's

1089
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 2: like Rachel dolaz Ou, this Jessica Krug woman, just these

1090
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 2: people that become the civil rights icon, Like they can't

1091
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 2: just be a black person, they have to be the

1092
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 2: black person.

1093
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 3: It's amazing. And she was up for two different.

1094
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 2: Book awards for her book that she got published, the

1095
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 2: Hair Tubman Award and I think the Frederick Duglas Award.

1096
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 3: So I don't know if it's a bestseller or not,

1097
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 3: but I.

1098
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 2: Mean, think of all the actual black people that wrote

1099
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 2: books about race, they got skipped right the fuck over.

1100
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 2: She wrote that throughout her adult life she claimed to

1101
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 2: be North African, African American, and Caribbean heritage. She called

1102
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 2: her actions the very epitome of violence, of thievery and

1103
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 2: appropriation of the myriad ways in which non black people

1104
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 2: continue to use and a be use Black identities and culture.

1105
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 3: She had all the words, Yeah.

1106
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 4: That's because social media. The thing about social media and

1107
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 4: all these wokiti wo quote quote activists on social media,

1108
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 4: they get they literally give the blueprint on how to

1109
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 4: infiltrate us. This is how they keep getting infiltrated that

1110
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,760
Speaker 4: particular group. They tell you these are the words you say,

1111
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 4: this is what you use. This is how we reward you.

1112
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 5: You know, this is how you go up the ladder,

1113
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 5: go up the rink, this is how you are recognized.

1114
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,919
Speaker 5: Like they literally tell you exactly what you need to do.

1115
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 2: It's easy to infiltrate because they they literally have laid

1116
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 2: out the map, like you said, It's like they just

1117
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:42,280
Speaker 2: say these words.

1118
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 4: Know these people like these things.

1119
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,959
Speaker 2: Because I think it's hard because part of social media

1120
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 2: are in promoting yourself for people who have chosen to

1121
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 2: promote themselves as the black whatever, black organizer, black activist,

1122
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 2: black professor, black whatever.

1123
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 3: Part of it is.

1124
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 2: You do have to signal out to people that this

1125
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:04,479
Speaker 2: is what, this is your shit, this is your area

1126
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 2: of expertise. Yes, but because of social media also giving

1127
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 2: it away for free, and so some hustlers, some people

1128
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 2: that just aren't running game are gonna see it and

1129
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 2: be like, I can do that.

1130
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 3: Matter of fact, I can do that better than you.

1131
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 4: Yep.

1132
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 2: Like I hate to admit it, man, but white people

1133
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 2: that pretend to be black are better at it than us.

1134
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 3: Okay.

1135
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 2: That's why they always winning all their wars and getting

1136
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 2: rich and shit. They just know how to be black

1137
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 2: better than we do. It's like we got something inherently

1138
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 2: in us that makes us stop. Like it's the imposter syndrome,

1139
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 2: it's the oppression, it's our own mental gymnastics.

1140
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:42,919
Speaker 3: It's the respectability something that.

1141
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 2: Makes us be like, I got too much integrity to

1142
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 2: completely sell the fuck out. They be like, no, I'm

1143
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 2: in it, I'm.

1144
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 4: In it, Okay, I'm getting it all. Okay.

1145
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 2: If you don't help me, you ain't helping black women. Okay,

1146
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 2: you are a racism and then you got people, I

1147
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 2: guess we've gotta give you a book award. Meanwhile, real

1148
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 2: black people we always be like, well, maybe my book

1149
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 2: wasn't good enough.

1150
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 4: Like the hours of decades I've spent, the years, all

1151
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 4: the fucking PhDs and degrees, but maybe I wasn't good enough.

1152
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 2: We live this shit and doubt our own existence, like

1153
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 2: we live it, and we doubt our existence and we

1154
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 2: doubt our experience.

1155
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,879
Speaker 3: Right, we live it, like I know this is race

1156
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 3: because they.

1157
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 5: Didn't have to deal with that bullshit, so they don't

1158
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 5: have so so their confidence level us through the goddamn brook.

1159
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 2: I think also people like this, they they they kind

1160
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 2: of look at black people because some people keep saying.

1161
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 3: It's you know, it's a complicated thing.

1162
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 2: It's a little bit anti black, not knocking it, but

1163
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 2: people keep saying, why would anyone pretend to be black?

1164
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 2: Why would anyone pretend to be black? First of all,

1165
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 2: I love being black.

1166
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 3: I know, ain't we lucky? We got them good times,

1167
00:56:56,200 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 3: all that shit, But I love being black. Vocasta over again.

1168
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:01,720
Speaker 3: I picked black again.

1169
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:03,399
Speaker 4: Same, you know what I mean.

1170
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 2: It's fucked up and there's a lot of trepidation all

1171
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 2: that shit, but I mean we move to earth, you

1172
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:14,399
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like our culture is that shit.

1173
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 2: You know, they ain't never built nothing like us. Nobody

1174
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 2: survived all this shit like us.

1175
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 3: Nah.

1176
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 2: But also you have to look at the time we're in,

1177
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 2: the era we're in. When social media started twenty ten,

1178
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 2: you know, that was kind of this moment of like ooh,

1179
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 2: black people getting known, black people in academia, black books,

1180
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 2: black this, black that, and a wave of opportunity based

1181
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 2: on blackness happened.

1182
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 4: Yes, it did.

1183
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 2: This was after Obama, you know that she really started,

1184
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 2: you know, on this grift like this. White people look

1185
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 2: at that. I'm not saying it's right. I'm not saying

1186
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 2: it's rational. They look at black people getting opportunities almost

1187
00:57:58,120 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 2: like a gimmick.

1188
00:57:59,520 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 3: You know.

1189
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 2: It's our white comedians look at rosters that have black

1190
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 2: people in the lineup and go, oh, it's so easy

1191
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 2: for those black people. I wish I was black. Then

1192
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 2: I would have got a late night show and I

1193
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 2: would have got this, And you know, and it's delusional

1194
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 2: because we know, we know it's not true. We know

1195
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 2: from the statistics that a lineup that had you know,

1196
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 2: and when every late night show is hosted by a

1197
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 2: white man that being black is not disadvantaged that they

1198
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 2: that white people think it is, but their their irrationality,

1199
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 2: their prejudice that when they see two black people in

1200
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 2: a room they feel like it's for that type of feeling.

1201
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 2: With studies have proven that, by the way, that's not

1202
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 2: me just randomly saying some shit.

1203
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 3: That kind of thing does.

1204
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 2: They're gonna be some white people that probably do think

1205
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 2: I would have a better advantage in academia if I

1206
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 2: was black, if I presented myself as you know, a

1207
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 2: person of color.

1208
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 5: That's amazing these fucking white ass space, these white ass faces,

1209
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 5: particularly professors, professors that actually go or teach at pwi's.

1210
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 5: Oh the goddamn racism and respectability politics and all types

1211
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 5: of other bullshit they had to be to go through

1212
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 5: just to get goddamn respect to get the fuck out

1213
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 5: of here, right.

1214
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 2: But what do you tell somebody that truly sees that

1215
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 2: shit and gets envious or thinks, you know, that's the

1216
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 2: only thing holding me back, you know. So it could

1217
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 2: be that The other thing she wrote about a lot

1218
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 2: was I had trauma as a child. I had trauma,

1219
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 2: my family is abusive and all this stuff, or I

1220
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 2: had trauma as a kid. I'm not saying she didn't,

1221
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 2: but I just know that if you've been living your

1222
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 2: whole life is a lot.

1223
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 3: I can't just go out for your word.

1224
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 2: So and then of course the world and it was

1225
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 2: full of stuff like references to like obviously I have

1226
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 2: mental health struggles and shit, I mean obviously you do

1227
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 2: for what you did, but also like to conveniently bring

1228
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 2: it up now. Like I was talking with three guys

1229
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 2: on with Randolph and he was like, well, that's what

1230
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 2: people do with Kanye. I said, no, people do that

1231
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 2: with Kanye. Kanye didn't do that himself. Kanye's never come

1232
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 2: out and said you can't blame me on bipolar. That's

1233
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:10,479
Speaker 2: not what he said. Like, you know, he's genuinely going

1234
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 2: through some shit and we see it and then people

1235
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 2: that are rational look at it and go that may

1236
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 2: be have that may have.

1237
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 3: Something to do with his mental illness.

1238
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 4: This is a medium piece.

1239
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, He's never written and said you can't blame me

1240
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 2: for saying the shit I said mental health.

1241
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 3: He didn't do that.

1242
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 2: She is the one that's being like that, you know.

1243
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 2: And also all the ethics she claimed to present in

1244
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 2: her medium piece, you can't have those ethics and do

1245
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 2: what she did. It's impossible because she's like she wanted

1246
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 2: to end it, turned off the comments, so you can't

1247
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 2: say nothing. But she she was like, held me accountable,

1248
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 2: cancel me, but no comments please? But I mean, what

1249
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 2: even is my community is on its Twitter? Really a

1250
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 2: community to hold someone accountable. I believe in restorative justice,

1251
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 2: by which I mean I'm restored or myself right now,

1252
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 2: And y'all can go ahead and leave.

1253
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, the place I spent years and you know, close

1254
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 4: to a decade.

1255
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 3: The place where everyone was calling me with their friend

1256
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 3: but yees.

1257
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 2: So the thing I kept thinking, though, is like to

1258
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 2: conveniently bring up that mental health shit, to conveniently say

1259
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 2: the trauma is why I did this and stuff. The

1260
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 2: thing about that is why do y'all always associate trauma

1261
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 2: with being black? You know what I'm saying, Like, being

1262
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 2: black is more than just that, And it's not just

1263
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 2: I'm a white person who has experienced trauma.

1264
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 3: Therefore, let me go identify with the black community.

1265
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 2: You're already telling us what you think about our community

1266
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 2: right there, right, It's a.

1267
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 5: Lot of white people that go through shit all the

1268
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 5: time and go through trauma, but they still claim they whiteness.

1269
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not just a polite repository. We're not just

1270
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 2: a I've been through some shit. So that's when I

1271
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 2: decided to just go ahead and be black.

1272
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 4: Like, that's not how this worded right, and every black person.

1273
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 5: You have some black people who are so privileged they've

1274
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 5: never been through certain types of trum, but you just

1275
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 5: make this assumption about blackness.

1276
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:03,439
Speaker 3: As a whole. Yeah.

1277
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 2: Now, I do wonder how she got this far. I've

1278
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 2: seen different speculations and theories. I have my own wonderings.

1279
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 3: You know.

1280
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 2: I saw people saying it's because men, you know, they

1281
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 2: were just trying to fuck her, and they just kept

1282
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 2: elevating her and you know, colorism.

1283
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 3: They just saw her being light skinned. And I'm like,

1284
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 3: I mean that could be part of it.

1285
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 2: Sure, you know, dudes do want to fuck and motherfuckers

1286
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 2: do love an exotic whatever, but.

1287
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 3: They don't explain all this shit, like some.

1288
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 2: Of this stuff, Like I saw a lot of people

1289
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 2: that felt betrayed by her, that were black women who

1290
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 2: were like, she was my friend, she was my colleague.

1291
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 2: I knew her for a long time and then we

1292
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 2: lost contact. They weren't men who you know, like and

1293
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 2: I think they used people like her use proximity, people

1294
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 2: like Rachel dolars out doing black women's hair and shit.

1295
01:02:56,760 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 2: They used proximity to elevate themselves, like, well, if I'm

1296
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 2: around nothing but black women, what you're gonna assume that

1297
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 2: I'm a black woman too, you know what I mean?

1298
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 4: And so I think people like this hurt a lot

1299
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 4: of folks. But then in our.

1300
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 2: Efforts to continue the gender wars and the whatever we

1301
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 2: you know, the black wars, we end up blaming all

1302
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 2: these different factions of the community. So I think that's

1303
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 2: why it turns into men versus women. It was African,

1304
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 2: it was immigrant African type people versus you know, black

1305
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 2: people that were ady os and type shit.

1306
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 3: It was I saw all these different agendas.

1307
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know which ones are true which

1308
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 2: ones aren't, honestly, and I did read a bunch of shit,

1309
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 2: but I.

1310
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 3: Couldn't I couldn't figure out which one was what.

1311
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 2: Like, it all seemed kind of confusing to me, like

1312
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 2: it could be like and that the other thing is

1313
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 2: nobody name names, nobody had an example. The only people

1314
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 2: I saw apologizing for uplifting her one was a gay

1315
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 2: black man. I think son of Balwin is his name

1316
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 2: on all social media and shit, And I forget the

1317
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 2: other dude. I don't know his orientation, but even his

1318
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:13,959
Speaker 2: was more like we had a weird interaction. It wasn't

1319
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 2: even like I'm sorry that I, you know, put her on,

1320
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:21,959
Speaker 2: but I'm like, if those were black men that elevated her, one,

1321
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 2: I guarantee you they elevated other voices too.

1322
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:26,959
Speaker 4: Yes, two, that's what.

1323
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 3: The fuck people wanting to do.

1324
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 2: Yes, Like, you can't be bitching about like, hey, elevate

1325
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 2: these black women's voices.

1326
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 3: Okay, well not that one. How the fuck was all

1327
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 3: foposed to know?

1328
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 4: Agreed?

1329
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? She fooled everybody.

1330
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 2: This is not like some like it was a It

1331
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 2: was a large contingent of people. Like people were saying

1332
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 2: stuff like I knew it, and then you know, they

1333
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 2: would take a screenshot or something because you know, they

1334
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 2: loved some evidence they didn't have no evidence of I

1335
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 2: knew she was a white woman.

1336
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 3: People like I didn't like her. I knew someone was

1337
01:04:55,880 --> 01:05:01,439
Speaker 3: off about her. She was weird, like she f Yes,

1338
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 3: she did.

1339
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 4: And the thing is, because blackness comes in all types

1340
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 4: of shades, people act like we don't have light skinned

1341
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 4: black people like you know, people that when this shit

1342
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 4: come out, people that like how you didn't know? It's

1343
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 4: like Nigga, I got cousins, this her color?

1344
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 5: The fuck you talking about like like like, let's not

1345
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 5: get stupid.

1346
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 2: And I mean obviously to elevate to the level she

1347
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 2: was at, white people had to fuck with her.

1348
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 3: Yes, And maybe that is the key to you know,

1349
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 3: the people we feel are quote unquote infiltrating.

1350
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 2: Maybe the key is that they understand white people more

1351
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 2: than we do, or they know because they are of

1352
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 2: white people, they are willing to kind of play the

1353
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 2: game with white people in a way that we aren't.

1354
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 2: Because you know, Rachel Dolar's out had a lot of

1355
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 2: white people coming out defending her. You had, uh, this

1356
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 2: woman you know that obviously couldn't have got all the

1357
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 2: denominations and all that type of shit. Publishing is not

1358
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:58,959
Speaker 2: necessarily a black domain. We don't control who the fuck

1359
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 2: publishes a book.

1360
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 3: You know.

1361
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 2: And you know Francane, you know, people like like him,

1362
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 2: they go straight to white people with the when when

1363
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 2: you have email reverencing Chadwick Bowse when you're not talking

1364
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 2: to us, Oh learn how to be anti racist. Black

1365
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 2: people don't need to learn how to do that. Chadwick

1366
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 2: Boseman died by my book. That's oh, you're not talking

1367
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 2: to us anymore.

1368
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 4: You know what the money is?

1369
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 2: It could be that you know what I mean that

1370
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 2: that's what people are doing, is that they know they

1371
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 2: get to a certain level and that they on that

1372
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 2: white shit.

1373
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 3: They just know it better than us.

1374
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, because they come you know, particularly people like that,

1375
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 5: they come from it. And I can guarantee you for

1376
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 5: some people, they were like put like this. And in

1377
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 5: a lot of the circles that she ran in a

1378
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 5: lot of these WOKEDI woke, woke circles.

1379
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 4: A lot of y'all ain't friends. A lot of y'all

1380
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 4: don't know each other. Let's keep that real.

1381
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 5: A lot of y'all don't build these interpersonal relationships, which

1382
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 5: means she wasn't around them long enough to leave clues

1383
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 5: when niggas be like something.

1384
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 4: Wrong, like I'm like cause you know, niggas got nigga

1385
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 4: since and after a wild people begin to if y'all

1386
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 4: actually spent time with each other and build real relationships

1387
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 4: versus the photo ops and the signal boost and and

1388
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 4: shit like that actually got to know people, you would

1389
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 4: be around them, not enough to be like, hey, something's

1390
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 4: wrong here.

1391
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 2: For some people they had that maybe, but you also

1392
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 2: we don't necessarily do that anymore. How many people are

1393
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 2: friends they never met. You have friends you never met

1394
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 2: on the internet. I guarantee it.

1395
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 3: Like you have friends that were your friends before you

1396
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 3: met them.

1397
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 2: You know, you have friends that you don't know their childhood,

1398
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 2: You never seen their parents, you never talked to them

1399
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 2: about this shit. It's happening more and more so it's

1400
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 2: just easier to infiltrate. You know, it's just more of

1401
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 2: a like fucked up.

1402
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 3: Thing to do. But I think, look, it's secret white

1403
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 3: women everywhere.

1404
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 2: Can okay, it's secret white women now like it is

1405
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 2: right now, there's a secret white woman going off on

1406
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 2: Jessica krub on Twitter right down.

1407
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 3: Guarantee it like this.

1408
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 2: I don't think this is hard to do. I think

1409
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 2: a lot of this is built into just the way

1410
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 2: things work. And then you have to look at academia

1411
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 2: is a competitive thing, getting your book published, getting it supported,

1412
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 2: these awards competitive, and a lot of right, A lot

1413
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 2: of this stuff is proximity, the opportunity, so people line

1414
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 2: up and cozy up to the people they think got next.

1415
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 2: You know, we've experienced this shit with podcasts and where

1416
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 2: people like fuck with us but don't really fuck with us,

1417
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, it's kind of obvious, like

1418
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 2: you don't fuck with nobody like us.

1419
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 3: You don't really see nothing.

1420
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 2: Okay, you just think we're gonna like blow up or

1421
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:43,439
Speaker 2: we're gonna like being around us is gonna help you somehow,

1422
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 2: like we've seen it, you know, And so a lot

1423
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 2: of these things that are quote unquote relationships aren't really that.

1424
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 2: It's just like, well, this person seems on the up

1425
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 2: and coming, and if I can help them, let me

1426
01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:56,680
Speaker 2: help them.

1427
01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 5: You know.

1428
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 2: Like that was the thing that kind of bothered me

1429
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 2: when I was like, so the people that all the

1430
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 2: people that helped them, I'm like, okay, show me that

1431
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 2: they only helped her, and I'm with you.

1432
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 3: Show me that they helped.

1433
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 2: Ten people and she was one of the ten, then

1434
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:14,800
Speaker 2: I don't really have a problem with that person, right,

1435
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:16,639
Speaker 2: supposed to knowough.

1436
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:18,680
Speaker 5: Right, because that thing is, hey, I'm supposed to try

1437
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 5: to help as many people as possible.

1438
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:22,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's just it is what it is, Like

1439
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:26,719
Speaker 2: I feel, I feel like people are such a rush

1440
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 2: to blame somebody for it. Yes, they're actually doing bad work.

1441
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,680
Speaker 2: Like it's actually not gonna be a positive result that

1442
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:36,560
Speaker 2: comes out of this, because you're gonna end up with

1443
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 2: people that go, all right, you're right, I just got

1444
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 2: to stop helping people.

1445
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:42,839
Speaker 3: I'm worried about me and my shit. I know I'm black, yep.

1446
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:44,679
Speaker 5: And they're gonna stop reaching out and all that shit

1447
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 5: because they go, like you said, I know I'm black,

1448
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 5: I'm not worried about the rest of y'all niggas.

1449
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 4: I don't want to You'll put like this.

1450
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 5: Once they quote unquote getting embrassed one time, that's gonna

1451
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 5: be the end of the helping hands.

1452
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so I think also you got a lot

1453
01:09:56,000 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 2: of people that, you know, academically feel betrayed and probably

1454
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 2: a little bit.

1455
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 3: Jealous because this motherfucker was successful doing this shit, and

1456
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 3: so you got that part of it too, you know.

1457
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 2: And then also, like a lot of times, the academic

1458
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 2: people that succeed off of blackness, their experience has been

1459
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 2: on the quote unquote margins of blackness because of just

1460
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 2: how our society works and how we self select.

1461
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1462
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 3: So you know, because people were.

1463
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 2: Saying like, you know, colorism, and I'm like, you're right,

1464
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 2: But even when it's a black person that is not

1465
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 2: a fake black person, just an actual black person who

1466
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 2: we normally talking about talking about bi racial people. We're

1467
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:50,599
Speaker 2: talking about people literally raised by white people. We're talking

1468
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 2: about light skinned people. We're talking like that shit is

1469
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 2: built into who America wants to see.

1470
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 3: Talk about these topics.

1471
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 4: Right because not turning.

1472
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,679
Speaker 5: It's funny if we actually push and promote a real

1473
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 5: black person, like a dark skinned like something you can

1474
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 5: like like somebody who you can't come in and be like,

1475
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,599
Speaker 5: well I would because I think all of a sudden,

1476
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 5: you make me realize, oh, it is blackness.

1477
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 4: I don't want to deal with that.

1478
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing, though, even if you're a dark

1479
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 2: skinned black person, what if you had to do to

1480
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 2: get there? Joy and Reed is a dark skinned black person,

1481
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:26,640
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? But like, what does it

1482
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 2: take for them to be comfortable with you?

1483
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1484
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 2: This is not a knock on any individual person's blackness,

1485
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:35,840
Speaker 2: but you know, we're talking about you have to to

1486
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 2: white people control so much right for them for them

1487
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 2: to let you be on a stage means they have

1488
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:44,760
Speaker 2: to feel comfortable with you to a certain extent, and

1489
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 2: a lot of times you have to give up something

1490
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 2: for them to fuck with you.

1491
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 3: Very rarely somebody can make it through that whole thing,

1492
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 3: and it might be.

1493
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 2: Superficial bullshit like oh they got they got an interracial

1494
01:11:57,479 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 2: marriage where they must be you know, Okay, we can

1495
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 2: try them to talk about it. You know what I

1496
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 2: mean as opposed to this other person. So it could

1497
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:07,480
Speaker 2: be that you know, or you got a certain attitude

1498
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:13,440
Speaker 2: of well, I went to this prestigious university, predominantly white university.

1499
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 2: I'm a smart Think about this. When black people become

1500
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:23,759
Speaker 2: the talking like talented quote unquote right aka profitable in America,

1501
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 2: what's the first thing to do white people?

1502
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:25,639
Speaker 1: Come?

1503
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 2: If you're good at basketball, first thing you want to do,

1504
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 2: take you out of the hood. Put you in a

1505
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 2: private university somewhere. If you're good at football, same thing,

1506
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 2: some coach coming to your neighborhood to get you.

1507
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 3: Come to this pretty predominantly white institution. Don't go to

1508
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:39,599
Speaker 3: this HBCU. You want to go to the NFL.

1509
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 2: Right, If you're good at talking, if you're good at

1510
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 2: at academics, come to this university come to this scholarship program.

1511
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:50,200
Speaker 2: It's all this filtering of talent out of our community

1512
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 2: into these white spaces. And once you go in these

1513
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 2: white spaces, you got to make some compromises. Once you

1514
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 2: make these and it's who do they feel comfortable with? Right,

1515
01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 2: It's okay, I feel more comfortable with a lighter skin

1516
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 2: black person. I feel more comfortable with this person that

1517
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 2: talks In the hood, they would say you talk white,

1518
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:10,680
Speaker 2: but here you just talk like us. And are the

1519
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:12,760
Speaker 2: rest of those black people kind of bad that just

1520
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:15,720
Speaker 2: always just kind of trapped that we're running through all

1521
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 2: the fucking time. So those leave these gaps for people

1522
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 2: to quote unquote infiltrate. Like people keep being like, well,

1523
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 2: this is why we should like make sure we gate

1524
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 2: keep blackness and stop.

1525
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:27,599
Speaker 3: I'm like, you can't.

1526
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:30,799
Speaker 2: You're not gonna really be able to because so possible,

1527
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 2: the same people that you go up for are the

1528
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 2: people that had to go through these hoops.

1529
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 4: Yes, they did, so you.

1530
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:40,639
Speaker 2: Can't really Like, what's the difference between gatekeeping her out

1531
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 2: and gatekeeping Melissa Harris's parry out right, Like you're gonna

1532
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:46,719
Speaker 2: lose out on some brilliant black people trying to black

1533
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 2: check everybody.

1534
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 3: You literally just have to watch out. Now.

1535
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:53,680
Speaker 2: I do feel like this could be prevented, but it

1536
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:56,760
Speaker 2: would take a reformation of like internet culture, so it

1537
01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 2: ain't gonna happen.

1538
01:13:57,640 --> 01:13:59,640
Speaker 3: But I think this is what happened when you not

1539
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:01,599
Speaker 3: really gatekeeping. You hate keeping.

1540
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 2: You just hating, Oh, so many people and so many

1541
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:09,800
Speaker 2: things all the time, and you form these communities based

1542
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:13,639
Speaker 2: on just hating motherfuckers. Yes, and you make it easy

1543
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:16,679
Speaker 2: to infiltrate you. You make it the blueprint is so easy.

1544
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 2: All I have to do is show up and quote

1545
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:23,600
Speaker 2: unquote hate the right people. I hate you, I hate you,

1546
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 2: hold on down on list too, Yeah, I hate you.

1547
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 3: And now we're best friends?

1548
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:28,680
Speaker 4: Right?

1549
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 2: How many people best friends? Like it's a shortcut into

1550
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 2: the community. It is, Oh, you know what, I hate

1551
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift?

1552
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 3: Oh you cool?

1553
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 2: High five and you know and I hate It's like,

1554
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:40,560
Speaker 2: what did she do well while she got I just

1555
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 2: hate that bitch, she's white.

1556
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 3: I hate you know.

1557
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:45,760
Speaker 2: It's so fucking easy. And they make it so easy

1558
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 2: because they're always advertising.

1559
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 3: What they hate.

1560
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 2: Yes, they are so so To me, it seemed like,

1561
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:55,760
Speaker 2: you know, you left the fucking gate code right out

1562
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:56,840
Speaker 2: there for everyone to see.

1563
01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 3: And then you're like, we're not gatekeeping enough. That's the problem.

1564
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:03,240
Speaker 2: It's really no gate there really shouldn't be one, you know.

1565
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 2: It's just it's just hating the right ship is the

1566
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 2: only thing. And that's that's what she did. I watched

1567
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:11,640
Speaker 2: some of her videos and it was a lot of

1568
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 2: like the fucking GiFi oh man, her.

1569
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 3: Accent it was, it was. It was not good. I

1570
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 3: don't know if y'all heard her accent. I have a

1571
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 3: video of it. This is her calling in the city council,

1572
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 3: and uh, this is what passed for black people.

1573
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 7: And I'm just I'm here in a video, is Charlem.

1574
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:38,760
Speaker 7: You probably know this neighborhood because the whole son of

1575
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 7: Elizabeth Vardo, who used to be the speaker of your

1576
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 7: city council, sold my fucking neighborhood to developers and gentrifies.

1577
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:46,720
Speaker 4: So I got a couple of things to say.

1578
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 2: So all my neighborhood that developers and is like me,

1579
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 2: like me, she's from fucking uh like Saint Louis or

1580
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 2: Kansas City or something.

1581
01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 3: She not even from there. Just amazing, I mean, method acting,

1582
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:02,599
Speaker 3: I guess.

1583
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 7: And when y'all come on and tell me my time stops.

1584
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 7: Fuck out of here. It's been seven hours. Not only

1585
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 7: that I have to listen to these cops, and not

1586
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 7: just the cops, but to be honest with y'all, City

1587
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:17,640
Speaker 7: council members. You posing like you're opposing them for your soundbites, a.

1588
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 3: Lot of leaving the g's off of things.

1589
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 2: You posing like you opposing uh huh, like a hip

1590
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:29,639
Speaker 2: hop cassette tape from nineteen eighty eight, leaving the g's off.

1591
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 7: Get social media for your re election campaigns.

1592
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 4: Fuck out of here.

1593
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 7: You've been supporting the cops in the pandemic when the

1594
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:39,720
Speaker 7: MTA was strapped, and you supported putting more cops on

1595
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 7: the MTA.

1596
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 4: Fuck out of here.

1597
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:43,000
Speaker 7: We know where you're coming from, and we know what

1598
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:44,919
Speaker 7: these little photo opportunity bullshit.

1599
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:47,839
Speaker 3: She sounds like she's from Boston.

1600
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 2: You don't sound like a black accent really or it

1601
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 2: definitely not Afro Caribbean or Afro Latina. Just sound like

1602
01:16:55,920 --> 01:17:00,719
Speaker 2: a like a Boston person talking like Mark Mark or something.

1603
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 7: I also want to call out all these white New

1604
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 7: Yorkers who waited four hours with us to be able

1605
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 7: to speak, and that did not yield their time to

1606
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:12,440
Speaker 7: black and brown indigenous New Yorkers, who's.

1607
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 3: Literally what she is doing. She a white person that

1608
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 3: is taking up all the time whiteness.

1609
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:21,560
Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, we're here, we're white.

1610
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 7: Right, thought that their sense of I thought cops was

1611
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:28,559
Speaker 7: here to protect us, But I guess they're not. Boy,

1612
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 7: you think that this sort of like shock and empathy

1613
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:34,360
Speaker 7: thing is the move? Okay, so a couple of things

1614
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 7: the move.

1615
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 3: Okay. Anyway, that's what she sounds like.

1616
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:41,080
Speaker 2: And now that's what she sounds like, I guess in

1617
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 2: that call, but you know, her professional setting, she sounded

1618
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 2: even more white.

1619
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 3: But like I said, I don't think these motherfuckers be

1620
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 3: knowing each other. Like I don't know. I feel like

1621
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:54,559
Speaker 3: I have a I'm less hard.

1622
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:58,840
Speaker 2: On people who met her and were fooled regardless, because

1623
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:00,640
Speaker 2: like I said, I saw some black women that were

1624
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:03,840
Speaker 2: food and I'm like, yeah, like I just feel bad

1625
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:05,560
Speaker 2: for you because you got used.

1626
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 5: You know, like.

1627
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 3: That's it. It's just more sad than anything else.

1628
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:15,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, And like you said, it caused a ripple effect

1629
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 4: because you know, one thing about black people, particularly once

1630
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 4: you get into the academic or academia world, the percentage

1631
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:27,719
Speaker 4: of black people there is small.

1632
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:30,680
Speaker 5: Anyway, Once you start getting into the higher degrees like

1633
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 5: the masters and the doctors and all the letters behind

1634
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 5: your name, the group becomes smaller and smaller and smaller.

1635
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 5: So it's one of those things where we literally we

1636
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 5: ain't got nobody but us, so we're apt to help,

1637
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 5: like that's.

1638
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:45,240
Speaker 4: What we do.

1639
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:48,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then she knew the right words, like when

1640
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 2: people would say anything of doubting her origin story, she

1641
01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 2: knew how to be able to say like this is

1642
01:18:57,120 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 2: anti blackness and black checking is wrong. And then she

1643
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 2: would be on Facebook saying Alexandria Cossio Cortez is fake

1644
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 2: and a transplant to the Bronx. She's not real, like

1645
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:11,560
Speaker 2: she like, that's the thing I keep wandering about with

1646
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 2: this woke culture shit, like these motherfuckers use words to

1647
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 2: manipulate any side of anything they take, even when.

1648
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 3: They're dead ass wrong.

1649
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 2: They know the right words to make you have to

1650
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 2: be like, well, I guess, I guess I can't say

1651
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:29,800
Speaker 2: anything about this, Like even in that confession, it's full

1652
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 2: of trapdoors, like mental hell, a trauma of fleeing abuse.

1653
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:36,280
Speaker 3: So you can't even be.

1654
01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 4: Too mad at her.

1655
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 2: Because she can be like, well, this is a trauma

1656
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 2: response like this is fucked up. Oh, I know it

1657
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 2: is fucked up in my ethics and morals, and you know, like,

1658
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 2: get the fuck out of here, dog, just.

1659
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 3: Zero two hundred.

1660
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 5: For me.

1661
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 4: Well, a situation like this, we'll get a hundred.

1662
01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:02,479
Speaker 5: I guess since I'm not funny, I already been down

1663
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 5: the road with Rachel dolas out, not trying fun of y'all.

1664
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 4: I'm I'm a predict this. There will be more, you know,

1665
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 4: like there will be more.

1666
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 2: And I know I got a few secret white women

1667
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 2: I got my eyes on. Okay, they'll eventually, you know,

1668
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:22,640
Speaker 2: l Covin, I'm saying name. I'm not afraid secret white woman.

1669
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:33,880
Speaker 3: They out here. Okay, some of them in the chat

1670
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 3: right now. Okay.

1671
01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:38,439
Speaker 2: Not gonna say nohing, not gonna say the people in

1672
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:41,160
Speaker 2: the chat, okay, but I'm just saying it's other professors

1673
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:45,200
Speaker 2: in chat that need to watch they back. Okay, I'm

1674
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 2: black face mailing. Oh, y'all send me some some snacks,

1675
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 2: some punkin spike snacks in the mail. If you're getting

1676
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 2: to be quiet, you're getting out it. Okay, you're gonna

1677
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 2: be writing a medium pieces. Nah, I give it a hundred.

1678
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:00,640
Speaker 3: I hate when they do this, like.

1679
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:02,680
Speaker 4: I said, and there's an anger there, even though the

1680
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 4: anger isn't coming out on the mic.

1681
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:04,800
Speaker 6: I hate.

1682
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 2: I hate what it does to our community, right, because

1683
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 2: then you have people trying to find somebody to blank.

1684
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:15,439
Speaker 2: They were mad that some men matched with her on tender.

1685
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:18,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, first of all, that's a fucking algorithm. Second

1686
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 2: of all, who gives a fuck?

1687
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 3: They did? They match with her and then give her

1688
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 3: a book deal?

1689
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 2: Like, no, they just matched with a light skinned person

1690
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 2: and that that claimed to be black and said, oh,

1691
01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:32,560
Speaker 2: I guess she's black. And in both cases they was

1692
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:35,960
Speaker 2: like she was crazy, Like when on a date something

1693
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 2: was wrong with her, she was crazy. Another person didn't

1694
01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:41,560
Speaker 2: even go on a date, she was crazy. Wow, you

1695
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:42,760
Speaker 2: shouldn't have told nobody this.

1696
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:43,519
Speaker 3: Why not?

1697
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 2: Everybody else is telling their stories that they're running with

1698
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:47,680
Speaker 2: the fucking dolas out too.

1699
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 4: I might as well too.

1700
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:51,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, like y'all acting like the motherfuckers and now we

1701
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:55,799
Speaker 3: have three children together? Like, no, y'all, right, she crazy?

1702
01:21:56,160 --> 01:21:56,720
Speaker 3: I didn't know.

1703
01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:58,840
Speaker 2: Of course I couldn't have known. She wasn't a real

1704
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 2: black person, but she's fucking That was not stable.

1705
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:06,519
Speaker 3: What I experienced. So all right, we'll do Uh, one

1706
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 3: more of these. Oh this is kind of long. We're

1707
01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 3: gonna do it anyway.

1708
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:12,920
Speaker 2: Like I said, we got to wrap up a little

1709
01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:18,960
Speaker 2: earlier than normal. Today, Nickelodeon removes Made by Maddie from

1710
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 2: TV from schedule following concerns about hair Love similarities.

1711
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:25,000
Speaker 3: Hair Love is the Oscar winning.

1712
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 2: Short by Matthew Cherry that I think it's I don't

1713
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 2: remem there's a Pixar.

1714
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 3: I can't remember was it before Frozen two.

1715
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:36,479
Speaker 2: I know it's a Kickstarter, but I know it premiere

1716
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:38,840
Speaker 2: before like a movie, but I can't remember which movie

1717
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 2: it was. But you know, I'll put the picture in

1718
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:45,640
Speaker 2: the chat so y'all can see it yourselves. And uh,

1719
01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 2: I know, cancel culture isn't real, but black people got

1720
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:49,120
Speaker 2: this one canceled.

1721
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:56,519
Speaker 3: Uh so it's real enough. Uh apparently it don't never

1722
01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 3: be real till it's real. Shout the consette myself.

1723
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 4: It's all fun and games, so you'd be like, oh,

1724
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 4: this is some consequences.

1725
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 2: It don't not be real till Nick ain't got no job.

1726
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:11,639
Speaker 2: Then it's like, oh this shields huh, which is we'll

1727
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 2: get to that part. But yeah, so it will not

1728
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:18,640
Speaker 2: premiere later this month. On Nickelodeon's Nick Junr As anticipated,

1729
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:21,640
Speaker 2: shadowing actors learned that Nickelodeon has removed it from the

1730
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 2: schedule as they assessed the situation following social media discourse

1731
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 2: that said the show was similar to Matthew A. Cherry's

1732
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:29,680
Speaker 2: Oscar winning short Hair Love, and a statement sent to

1733
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 2: shadow and act Nickelodeon states made by Maddie as a

1734
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:35,720
Speaker 2: show we acquired several years ago from Silvergate Media, a

1735
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 2: renowned production company we.

1736
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:38,920
Speaker 3: Had previously worked with on other series.

1737
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:41,720
Speaker 2: Since announcing the show's premiere date this week, we have

1738
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:45,320
Speaker 2: been listening closely to the commentary, criticism, and concerns coming from.

1739
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:47,640
Speaker 3: Both viewers and members of the creative community and.

1740
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 2: Response and out of respect to all voices in the conversation,

1741
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:52,800
Speaker 2: we're removing the show from our schedule as we garner

1742
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:55,320
Speaker 2: further insight into the creative journey of the show.

1743
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:57,639
Speaker 3: We're grateful to Silvergate Media.

1744
01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 2: For all of their work, and we hold Matthew Cherry

1745
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:01,920
Speaker 2: and the Wonder Four and the spiring Hair Love in

1746
01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:07,600
Speaker 2: the highest regard. Now, the thing is, there's no like

1747
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:13,160
Speaker 2: direct proof that they stole us, and my personal opinion, obviously,

1748
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 2: my personal opinion not trying to argue with these niggas.

1749
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:19,200
Speaker 2: I do not think they look alike no either, Okay,

1750
01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 2: we have not talked about this before we got on

1751
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 2: the air, so I didn't know how Karen felt about it.

1752
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:29,160
Speaker 2: I talked to a couple of other people, other you know,

1753
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:32,080
Speaker 2: people I trust. Some one of them felt like it

1754
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:35,880
Speaker 2: did look similar enough that there's a problem. But the

1755
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 2: other people saw it and didn't think it was. And

1756
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 2: I'm on the side of just I don't think they

1757
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 2: look enough a light. But more importantly, this is how

1758
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:48,880
Speaker 2: the story was presented. It's like they stole this story.

1759
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:52,720
Speaker 2: It's not even the same story. Like this girl has

1760
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 2: two siblings. It's about moving, it's about fashion, it's not

1761
01:24:57,080 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 2: about hair at all. Like, like the plot is completely different.

1762
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:07,680
Speaker 2: The CEO Silvergate Media, Wahid Ali.

1763
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:12,760
Speaker 3: Hmm, that sounds like a black person. Interesting. I was

1764
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:14,760
Speaker 3: told just it was just white people still in I

1765
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:16,680
Speaker 3: don't know. I have to look up his picture.

1766
01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:20,320
Speaker 2: Might be a white woman in discuss but yeah, whah,

1767
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:22,679
Speaker 2: he'd a last said maybe by Maddie is a preschool

1768
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:25,200
Speaker 2: show about an eight year old girl who uses her

1769
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 2: fashion sense and design ingenuity to solve problems Silvergate Media

1770
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:31,719
Speaker 2: has been working for on the series for the last

1771
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:34,840
Speaker 2: five years, and through our production is taking steps to

1772
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:38,200
Speaker 2: ensure a diverse production team and an appropriate voice cast,

1773
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 2: lending their expertise and talent as creators ourselves. We have

1774
01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 2: the utmost respecting admiration for matthew A, Cherry and hair Love,

1775
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:47,280
Speaker 2: and I hope is that when people watch our show,

1776
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:48,519
Speaker 2: they will see it in its.

1777
01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 3: Own It is its own story and with its own adventures. Yeah, well,

1778
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 3: they never gonna get to see it, So too bad,

1779
01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:56,400
Speaker 3: you know.

1780
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 2: May By Mattie has created by Paullen Paula Rosenthal woman

1781
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:07,000
Speaker 2: and produced a production of the show for Nickelodeon Animation Studios.

1782
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:10,680
Speaker 2: Is overseen by Eric Casimiro, who is the senior vice

1783
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:12,400
Speaker 2: president of Nickelodeon Preschool.

1784
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 3: The show was set to follow eight year old.

1785
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:16,880
Speaker 2: Maddie in New York City as she uses her imagination

1786
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:20,360
Speaker 2: and design ingenuity to turn every problem into a positive

1787
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:24,439
Speaker 2: with a perfect fashion fix. Okay, the same plot to

1788
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 2: Hair Love. Okay, we all know that's what happened. It

1789
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:31,720
Speaker 2: was about fashions and moving to New York, you know,

1790
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:35,760
Speaker 2: because there can only be one black animated project at

1791
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:39,439
Speaker 2: the time. Okay with from Doc Land stuffins hair Love

1792
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 2: and we're still in the Hairlove Act era Okay. Following

1793
01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:47,880
Speaker 2: her Love's oscar Win and the critical Acclaim, series based

1794
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:48,599
Speaker 2: on the short.

1795
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 3: Young Love was ordered at HBO Max.

1796
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 2: The show will expand on the world of hair Love,

1797
01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:56,680
Speaker 2: including millennial parents Steven and Angelo, their daughter Zuri, and

1798
01:26:56,800 --> 01:27:00,479
Speaker 2: her pet cat Rocky, as they juggled their careers, marriage, parenthood,

1799
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:04,560
Speaker 2: social issues, and multi generational dynamics, all while striving to

1800
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:06,480
Speaker 2: make better life for themselves.

1801
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:09,240
Speaker 3: Chairs also on their first look deal with HBO Max.

1802
01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:12,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the thing is, he liked all the tweets

1803
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 2: that were kind of like shitting on this and like

1804
01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:16,680
Speaker 2: being like, it's just the same and stuff. And then

1805
01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:20,240
Speaker 2: I guess he deleted those or whatever those like later,

1806
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:23,599
Speaker 2: but you know it, but it added to the fuel

1807
01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:25,800
Speaker 2: to the fire of oh, he must feel away. So

1808
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:28,040
Speaker 2: they stole his shit, and then people still walking around

1809
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 2: going they stole his story, they stole his idea, they

1810
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:35,000
Speaker 2: stole the design, all this shit. And once I feel like,

1811
01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:38,519
Speaker 2: once you introduce something like that, most people that have

1812
01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:40,280
Speaker 2: heard of it will have heard of it that way,

1813
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:42,839
Speaker 2: and so they're gonna be like, yeah, it's stolen.

1814
01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:43,479
Speaker 3: It's gotta go.

1815
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:46,800
Speaker 4: Black people always getting their shit stole, whether it's been

1816
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:47,240
Speaker 4: true or.

1817
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:51,439
Speaker 3: Not, whether it's been proven or not. You know, people

1818
01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 3: are like, well, they're gonna have to prove it in court.

1819
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:55,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't even know if it goes to court, right,

1820
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:57,679
Speaker 2: it might be easier for them to just not ever.

1821
01:27:57,600 --> 01:27:59,400
Speaker 3: Put it out. It just not worked.

1822
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:01,320
Speaker 2: I mean, how can you put it back out now?

1823
01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:04,680
Speaker 2: The pr is fucked up, you know what I mean? Like,

1824
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 2: whenever you do put this out, this will be the

1825
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 2: first thing we think of is the controversy. He's saying

1826
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:12,600
Speaker 2: it was stolen. Whether you can acquit yourself or not.

1827
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:15,800
Speaker 2: You can bring up all the sketches, all that shit,

1828
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:17,599
Speaker 2: it won't matter, you know what I mean.

1829
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:21,439
Speaker 3: So, and then, of course, you know, it could be

1830
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:22,880
Speaker 3: that they just straight up stole it.

1831
01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:27,280
Speaker 2: And five years ago, before hair Love even was it existing,

1832
01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:30,720
Speaker 2: they didn't really have a good idea, and then they

1833
01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:32,320
Speaker 2: heard of hair Love, and then they.

1834
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:34,760
Speaker 3: Tried to steal everything, you know, the design from that

1835
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:37,080
Speaker 3: and rip it off.

1836
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:38,200
Speaker 4: It could be that.

1837
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 2: I just I think the likelihood of that is lower

1838
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:46,600
Speaker 2: than this being a more of a coincidence. And I

1839
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:50,160
Speaker 2: think cutting out you know, cropping out her siblings.

1840
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:51,120
Speaker 4: And right, because that matters too.

1841
01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:54,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, purposely showing like her with the cat and her

1842
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 2: parents is very much alike.

1843
01:28:56,800 --> 01:29:00,240
Speaker 3: Look at this, y'all, like they stole it, you know

1844
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:00,920
Speaker 3: what I mean, as.

1845
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:03,439
Speaker 2: Opposed to being like well, in the totality of what

1846
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:05,639
Speaker 2: they're trying to tell, in the totality of that story,

1847
01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:09,360
Speaker 2: there may be some artwork similarities, but it's mostly just

1848
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:10,000
Speaker 2: today black.

1849
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:14,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think for me, I guess I have several

1850
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:19,800
Speaker 4: thoughts about this number one. There can be more than

1851
01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:21,880
Speaker 4: one black show, y'all. Y'all. I hope y'all niggas know

1852
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:24,040
Speaker 4: not this. It can literally be more than only one

1853
01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:24,760
Speaker 4: black show.

1854
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:30,559
Speaker 5: And that irritates me because y'all are so hell bent

1855
01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:34,519
Speaker 5: on not liking this Nickelodeon show because a white woman

1856
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:37,360
Speaker 5: wrote it, that you're like, fuck them and fuck everything

1857
01:29:37,439 --> 01:29:37,920
Speaker 5: about them.

1858
01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:40,680
Speaker 4: White people can write shit about things that.

1859
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:42,680
Speaker 5: Are outside of their race, and they happen to cover

1860
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:46,560
Speaker 5: culches and it's not always as fucking terrible as situation

1861
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:49,519
Speaker 5: that because they're white, they just can't relate that.

1862
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:51,200
Speaker 4: They just can't tell these great.

1863
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:54,360
Speaker 5: Stories about us, you know, And I understand where the

1864
01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:59,160
Speaker 5: trepidation comes from because of white supremacists. Like I do

1865
01:29:59,320 --> 01:30:01,800
Speaker 5: understand this at supremacy. I'm sorry, I understand this. I

1866
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:05,600
Speaker 5: understand why people feel the way they do, why they

1867
01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:08,760
Speaker 5: have this anger, why they have this rage. I completely

1868
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:11,760
Speaker 5: understand this. But y'all fail to realize this other show

1869
01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:14,479
Speaker 5: that y'all got canceled? What about those black people? They

1870
01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:15,639
Speaker 5: black too, right, y'all?

1871
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:19,840
Speaker 3: Actually there's a black girl that anyone as you.

1872
01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:23,240
Speaker 1: Know, I voice Maddie in the show Made by Maddie.

1873
01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:25,720
Speaker 1: But I have to say that the show will no

1874
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:30,519
Speaker 1: longer be airing on September thirteenth. I understand why the

1875
01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:34,080
Speaker 1: show has to be put on pause, but I also

1876
01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:38,080
Speaker 1: learned a few things along the way of my journey.

1877
01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:42,040
Speaker 1: So I just want to tell you guys, I'm so

1878
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:46,000
Speaker 1: grateful and so honored to have this opportunity to see

1879
01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:49,320
Speaker 1: you guys, you know, smiling and so inspired and happy.

1880
01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:52,120
Speaker 1: I was reading the comments actually yesterday and I was

1881
01:30:52,240 --> 01:30:55,360
Speaker 1: just laughing. I was like, yay, so happy they're happy

1882
01:30:55,479 --> 01:31:00,760
Speaker 1: because I love you guys so much. And so I

1883
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:05,519
Speaker 1: learned that to always just keep going and keep pushing

1884
01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:09,720
Speaker 1: for yourself and always try and accomplish your goals and

1885
01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:12,799
Speaker 1: your dreams and always try to be the best version

1886
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:14,680
Speaker 1: that you can be of yourself.

1887
01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:16,200
Speaker 4: And I don't know.

1888
01:31:16,640 --> 01:31:19,960
Speaker 1: I can't control what's gonna happen in the future because

1889
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:23,400
Speaker 1: I don't know when it's gonna be airing or even

1890
01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:25,800
Speaker 1: if it will come on TV. But I really hope

1891
01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:30,600
Speaker 1: it does. But I just want to say that I

1892
01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:34,800
Speaker 1: will continue to be the best version of myself. I'm

1893
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:38,960
Speaker 1: not upset. I am actually very grateful that I have

1894
01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:39,960
Speaker 1: this opportunity.

1895
01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:43,000
Speaker 2: Can't get You don't get to be upset because if

1896
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:45,920
Speaker 2: you're upset, then they're gonna turn around your ass too. Yeah,

1897
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:50,280
Speaker 2: it's just so funny. Cancel culture isn't real. She no

1898
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:54,599
Speaker 2: longer has this opportunity. And then it's also funny too

1899
01:31:54,720 --> 01:32:00,040
Speaker 2: because that little black girl I saw people's share in

1900
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:02,560
Speaker 2: the tweet, like we need to get her another opportunity

1901
01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:04,160
Speaker 2: just because the show got can so it doesn't mean

1902
01:32:04,720 --> 01:32:05,840
Speaker 2: she had an opportunity.

1903
01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:10,360
Speaker 3: Just admit you took it away from her. The white

1904
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:11,120
Speaker 3: people didn't come.

1905
01:32:11,040 --> 01:32:13,080
Speaker 4: In and do this. We did this right and and

1906
01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:15,479
Speaker 4: and and to go back to our sin. That that's

1907
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:16,840
Speaker 4: the part that makes me mad.

1908
01:32:17,479 --> 01:32:19,600
Speaker 5: People get so walk and they get so wrapped up

1909
01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:21,840
Speaker 5: in their own agendas that nobody wants to do their

1910
01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:25,519
Speaker 5: research and nobody wants to to to find out the truth.

1911
01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:27,880
Speaker 4: And like you said, it was already presented like they

1912
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:30,679
Speaker 4: stole this. We don't know this. Everybody's making this assumption

1913
01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:32,960
Speaker 4: that the ship was stolen and we don't know that.

1914
01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:35,920
Speaker 2: And you want to know what really grinds my gears

1915
01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:40,599
Speaker 2: the most? The two most popular black cultural things right

1916
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:49,519
Speaker 2: now are probably Watchmen and this Lovecraft series Lovecraft Country,

1917
01:32:49,560 --> 01:32:53,800
Speaker 2: written by a white dude who based his work on

1918
01:32:53,880 --> 01:33:01,040
Speaker 2: a racist ass white dude. Right, Watchmen, Damon lundelof hamd

1919
01:33:01,120 --> 01:33:05,040
Speaker 2: that story about this black futuristic world of where racism

1920
01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:08,559
Speaker 2: is still this underground thing that is happening all the time.

1921
01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:14,080
Speaker 2: And the only reason those things were really allowed to

1922
01:33:14,160 --> 01:33:17,720
Speaker 2: blossom is because we didn't know that much about them, right,

1923
01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:21,120
Speaker 2: you see what I'm saying, Like it was only because

1924
01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:24,439
Speaker 2: of Watchmen basically showed up and then people was like, ooh,

1925
01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:27,960
Speaker 2: I like this, but on paper presented to us on

1926
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:31,240
Speaker 2: Twitter cropped out like this, black people will be like, no,

1927
01:33:31,400 --> 01:33:34,320
Speaker 2: cancel the shit on a white man telling stories about

1928
01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:37,679
Speaker 2: racism and motherfucking If we do have a news flash,

1929
01:33:37,880 --> 01:33:39,519
Speaker 2: you don't need to go to the future. We do

1930
01:33:39,680 --> 01:33:43,080
Speaker 2: have secret racism happening right now in the White House.

1931
01:33:43,200 --> 01:33:45,240
Speaker 2: Like you know, so you like the same thing they

1932
01:33:45,280 --> 01:33:49,280
Speaker 2: said with Confederate that applies to Watchmen period. You know,

1933
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:51,800
Speaker 2: they just let they just they just didn't tell us

1934
01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:53,320
Speaker 2: until it got further down the road and it was

1935
01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:58,160
Speaker 2: cast and all this shit. But same thing, same thing

1936
01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:03,040
Speaker 2: with Lovecraft, Like if they didn't roll that out through

1937
01:34:03,080 --> 01:34:06,760
Speaker 2: the like ay y'all Jordan Peel, Everybody's like, why did

1938
01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:08,720
Speaker 2: they say me Shagreen? You know why because you see

1939
01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:11,960
Speaker 2: Jordan Peel's David and you give it, uh, you give

1940
01:34:12,040 --> 01:34:14,479
Speaker 2: it more credit than you would me Shagreen.

1941
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:16,200
Speaker 3: With Mesha Green, you still.

1942
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:17,120
Speaker 4: Would be like, I don't know if I want to

1943
01:34:17,160 --> 01:34:19,000
Speaker 4: see no Mond fucking But they.

1944
01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:20,880
Speaker 3: Played by the mind from the mind to Jordan Peel.

1945
01:34:20,920 --> 01:34:26,080
Speaker 3: Oh okay, forget that he's just a you know, executive producer,

1946
01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:26,639
Speaker 3: but whatever.

1947
01:34:28,200 --> 01:34:31,080
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think that's what happened. And then people

1948
01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:33,320
Speaker 2: ship on these things and it does.

1949
01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:35,519
Speaker 4: Have consequences, yes, and it does matter.

1950
01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:37,840
Speaker 2: And now this little girl, you know, lost her job

1951
01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:41,400
Speaker 2: over this shit. Essentially, Hopefully it comes back later. Hopefully

1952
01:34:41,479 --> 01:34:44,600
Speaker 2: they do put it out if assuming obviously on the up,

1953
01:34:44,680 --> 01:34:47,400
Speaker 2: everything's on the up and up. But you know, whether

1954
01:34:47,439 --> 01:34:48,840
Speaker 2: it's on the up and up or not, you still

1955
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:51,720
Speaker 2: ruin the fucking launch of this shit right, jumping to

1956
01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:53,519
Speaker 2: conclusions in these fucking hate communities.

1957
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:56,479
Speaker 5: And the thing is you don't care, like not that funny.

1958
01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:59,639
Speaker 5: You can't be online complaining about this show. The show

1959
01:34:59,680 --> 01:35:03,360
Speaker 5: get came and then be like, well, decve.

1960
01:35:03,040 --> 01:35:04,720
Speaker 4: Lost a job, Let's give it another job. Bitch I

1961
01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:06,920
Speaker 4: had a job, like, I would be mad at y'all niggas.

1962
01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:07,679
Speaker 4: I'm not even how.

1963
01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:10,479
Speaker 2: Hard it is to get a one, to get a

1964
01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:12,600
Speaker 2: lead role as a black actress like this, you know

1965
01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:15,439
Speaker 2: at this age, how hard that is not to mention

1966
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:18,000
Speaker 2: this could be your next dogmic stuff is this could

1967
01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:20,080
Speaker 2: have been you know, three folk seasons of this, This

1968
01:35:20,160 --> 01:35:22,480
Speaker 2: could have been some little black kid ones representation.

1969
01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:24,800
Speaker 3: It could have been their shit, you know.

1970
01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:28,719
Speaker 2: But because you have negative people always looking for negative shit,

1971
01:35:29,160 --> 01:35:32,559
Speaker 2: they just come at everything in a negative fucking way.

1972
01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:36,400
Speaker 2: So it's like, yeah, a white woman wrote that, It's

1973
01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:39,880
Speaker 2: like okay, so then it can't be good right right,

1974
01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:42,599
Speaker 2: Like have y'all niggas love Norman Lyar's content?

1975
01:35:42,760 --> 01:35:44,720
Speaker 3: Well, you grew up on some white man shit like

1976
01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:46,920
Speaker 3: now it can't.

1977
01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:49,280
Speaker 5: Be good, right, And like I said, a lot of

1978
01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:53,760
Speaker 5: this is boil down to the variations of agendas. And

1979
01:35:54,720 --> 01:35:58,639
Speaker 5: I think sometimes too, when people have already, when people

1980
01:35:58,720 --> 01:36:01,800
Speaker 5: have their minds made up and they literally get in

1981
01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:04,519
Speaker 5: these communities and they argue with people all day, there's

1982
01:36:04,640 --> 01:36:06,479
Speaker 5: nothing you can do to get them to change their

1983
01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:07,320
Speaker 5: mind because it's.

1984
01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:09,559
Speaker 3: Just reinforcing the same shit over and over.

1985
01:36:09,640 --> 01:36:09,680
Speaker 5: It.

1986
01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:12,840
Speaker 2: You just this, like everyone likes to talk about the

1987
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:17,560
Speaker 2: Trump information silo and the alright and q Andon people.

1988
01:36:17,439 --> 01:36:20,439
Speaker 4: Got this in their bubbles too, yes they do.

1989
01:36:20,920 --> 01:36:23,519
Speaker 2: So like this had to become an insidious plot against

1990
01:36:23,560 --> 01:36:27,559
Speaker 2: Matthew Cherry. You know somebody that somebody that I've watched

1991
01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:31,479
Speaker 2: them acues are stealing without proof before. Yes, so like

1992
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:33,720
Speaker 2: you know, if I if I can look at that

1993
01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:36,080
Speaker 2: and go, well, I'll wait till they fucking prove something.

1994
01:36:36,080 --> 01:36:37,320
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna call this man a thief.

1995
01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:38,200
Speaker 4: I wait till they prove it.

1996
01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:40,439
Speaker 3: I'm the same fucking thing goes with these people.

1997
01:36:41,200 --> 01:36:44,000
Speaker 2: Just show your work and then I'm with you. But no,

1998
01:36:44,160 --> 01:36:46,479
Speaker 2: I'm not hopping on the band wagging them shitting on this.

1999
01:36:47,080 --> 01:36:50,559
Speaker 2: This concept and fuck these people's employment and all that shit,

2000
01:36:51,160 --> 01:36:53,320
Speaker 2: just because y'all were bored on Twitter. Because you're stuck

2001
01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:54,920
Speaker 2: in the house and you're angry. You can't go outside

2002
01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:56,600
Speaker 2: without a mask. All Right, we gotta go.

2003
01:36:56,840 --> 01:36:59,400
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. We got to the break, uh and I

2004
01:36:59,479 --> 01:37:03,040
Speaker 3: had the interview somebody. We'll be back tomorrow. Well, it's

2005
01:37:03,120 --> 01:37:03,519
Speaker 3: Labor Day.

2006
01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:05,639
Speaker 2: We might be back tomorrow and in Tuesday, we definitely

2007
01:37:05,680 --> 01:37:08,240
Speaker 2: have Janelle James on the show. All Right, y'all, until

2008
01:37:08,360 --> 01:37:09,840
Speaker 2: next time. I love you, I love you too.

2009
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:10,200
Speaker 3: Wow.