1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What's up, straight 2 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: Fire Fan, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire for Wednesday, 3 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: August Big Day here on the podcast and in real 4 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: life for your boy. Obviously, we have a special special guest, 5 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: a guy I had never talked to in my life 6 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: before we take the podcast. Chris Sim's former NFL quarterback, 7 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: former Texas Longhorn. Um, and he's now a big deal 8 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: over at NBC does some stuff with Mike Florio Pro 9 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: Football Talk. Chris Sims, we chop it up, he he 10 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: gets um, he gets after it. Let's just say that. 11 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: Chris Simms and I, uh, we spent some time going 12 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: back and forth on Tom Brady. He's not the hugest 13 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: Tom Brady fan. I oddly found myself defending Tom Brady 14 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: a little bit um, but he makes fat valid points. Uh. 15 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: It's a good discussion. I think you guys will like it. 16 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: Um and listen to. Christims is the guy who kind 17 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: of correctly pegg Patrick Mahomes coming out of teke his 18 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: tech and um. Now he's very bullish on a gentleman 19 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: named Kellen Mond, which we don't agree with. Josh Allen, 20 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: of course, he's very high on Josh Allen. It's it's 21 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: just a good if you like NFL and you like 22 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: forward thinking, next level stuff, you're gonna like Chris Simms. 23 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: But before we get to that, I said, it's a 24 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: big day for your boy. Today, obviously is the MLS 25 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: All Star Game out here in California. I will be there, um, 26 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: mostly because the team I'm a part owner of, Nicosa 27 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: is gonna have a suite there, and so I'll get 28 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: to meet the rest of the ownership. I know, obviously, 29 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: the one guy who wrote me into the deal eternally 30 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: thankful for that. Um. I probably have to Aphim on 31 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: the podcast at some point. He is just an awesome guy, 32 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: former NBA agent. He'll be there and a bunch of 33 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: other ballers that I'm sure I'll be rubbing shoulders with. 34 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: It'll be fun. I don't know how I'll handle it. 35 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: This is, you know. I don't want to say, um 36 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, punching above my weight class showing 37 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: up at this thing. But there's gonna be some ballers there, 38 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: and I I'm very excited. I like meeting new people, 39 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: new new outlooks. I mean, none of these guys know 40 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: me so it should be fun. Overall, I'm very excited 41 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: for that. A couple of quick sports notes before we 42 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: get to Chris sims Um, Did you guys see this 43 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:15,119 Speaker 1: Nerlands Noel suing Rich Paul. This is fascinating. Rich Paul, 44 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: by the way, runs Clutch Sports. Lebron's guy. Rich Paul 45 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: is a huge deal in the NBA and has become, 46 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, one of the biggest power brokers in 47 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: the league. That's just the reality Nerlands Noel. The story 48 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 1: he told is, uh, he he was um, you know, 49 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: he had a good season in Dallas, and at the 50 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: start of free agency, his agent, Happy Walter is another 51 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: big dude, was able to get a four year, seventy 52 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: million dollar offer from the Mavericks. Four years seventy million dollars. 53 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: That is retirement money. That is generational wealth for you 54 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 1: and your family. Four years seventy million dollars. Yes, even 55 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: after taxes and agencies and blah blah blah. As he's 56 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: offered that. Nerlands Noel is at a party in l 57 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: at Ben Simmons birthday party. Rich Paul's there, and Rich Paul, 58 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 1: you know, essentially basically says, hey, come on board. Well, 59 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: I can I can do better than that? Um? New 60 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: Lands Noel drops his agent signs with Rich Paul. Rich 61 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: Paul says, hey, you know what the move is. Yes, 62 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,399 Speaker 1: I can get you one that, but you uh take 63 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: a small contract now you become an unrestricted free agent 64 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: next year, and then we get you paid like a big, 65 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: big money deal. So nor Lands Lowell's seeing dollar sign 66 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: says yeah, yeah, let's do that. So he sids a 67 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: one year, four point one million dollar deal. But what 68 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: happens the next season? He's injured, misses a ton of games. Um, 69 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: the offers don't really materialize, and he has to play 70 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: on the minimum for two years in Okay. See, So 71 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: he turns down four and seventy burd in hand with 72 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: the potential pay day down the road, and he claims 73 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: that's because of what Rich Paul advised. Now this could 74 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: get out. Rich Paul is a major power broker. The 75 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: loans nerlens Noel as small potatoes in the NBA. But 76 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: I am very curious to see how this shakes out. 77 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: The other quick little NBA nugget um is that Mike 78 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: Budenholzer got an extension. He got a three year extension 79 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: from the Bucks Budenholzer in the Bucks champions of the NBA, 80 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: and obviously everybody's gonna be laughing like, oh, they're idiots. 81 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: Remember Bodenholzer in that next next series is down to oh, 82 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: everybody had him getting fired. If they lose Game five, 83 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: it's over. It's over for Buddenholder. They get a little 84 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: bit luck, Kyrie gets hurt, Katie's foots on the line, YadA, YadA, YadA. 85 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: Budenholzer wins. They beat the Hawks, not the Sixers, and 86 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: then they don't have to face the Lakers or the Clippers. 87 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: They both those teams got hurt. They beat the Sons 88 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: after being down to oh, when Budenholzer gets a new deal, 89 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: and I'm sure there's people laughing, But what are their options? 90 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: You bootenholes are at all the power. You win a championship, 91 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: regardless of how you got it done, you had the power, 92 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: so they had to extend it. There's no option. Can 93 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: you imagine what signal that sends to the locker room 94 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: if you win the championship and then Bodenholzer is a 95 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: lame duck coach. You can't do that. That's terrible business. 96 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: They had no option. Now hopefully the money is structured, 97 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: so uh, Bootenholzer is paid up front as opposed to 98 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: like the back end of the deal. Um. But listen, 99 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody thinks the bootenholders a great coach. 100 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: I mean, the guy was everybody's writing his death sentence 101 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: multiple times. Uh last season. Um, the Bucks kept him. 102 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: But that's what they had to do. Final little piece 103 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: of news. Um. And this hurts Travis E. T N. 104 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I've talked way too much about the 105 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: Jags on this podcast. I irrationally like them, and now 106 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: it feels like I don't know, I don't think I should, 107 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: so they trade them in a linebacker show Bert, I 108 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: think he was led the team in tackles last year. 109 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: They put up a four sale sign on C. J. Henderson, 110 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: who was I think a first round pick last year. 111 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: I mean, he's pretty damn good. Last year limited action, Um, 112 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: the tebow catastrophe, and now Travis E. T N who 113 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: you basically signed drafted in the first round when you 114 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: had a running back, an undrafted guy go for over 115 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: a thousand yards one of the greatest undrafted running back 116 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: seasons in the history of the sport for a rookie 117 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: and you draft E t N Like huh, and then 118 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: E t N is down for the season, Like how 119 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: many packages do they have for E t N where 120 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: he'd be coming out of backfield doing damage? Like absolute 121 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 1: just totally brutal for the Jags. I'm not going to overreact, 122 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: it's preseason, but man, that hurts. All right? Without further ado, 123 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: let's get to former NFL quarterback and current NBC football 124 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: analyst Chris Sims. Jason likes to think he knows everything 125 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: when it comes to sports. I know what sports dance want, 126 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: but for everything he doesn't, he knows a guy who does. 127 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: Let's just say I know a guy who knows a 128 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: guy who knows another guy. All right, let's welcome into 129 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: straight fire. A high school legend, former college football star 130 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: at Texas. He played in the NFL for several years, 131 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: a third round draft pick of the Bucks. Now he 132 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: is basically spitting hot fire as a media analyst. Chris Simms, Chris, 133 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: how are you? I'm doing good? Jason? Thanks a lot, man. 134 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: It's it's not like that often where people go back 135 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: to high school legend as my introduction. So I'll take it. 136 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: I'll take it. Those might have been my best years 137 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: of football right there, and I'm not ashamed to say it. Well, 138 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: it's funny. I had to bring that up because my 139 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: first newspaper job was at the Bergen Record in Northern 140 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: Jersey and I had got there just as Chris had graduated, 141 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: and all anybody talked about was all Chris Sims. This 142 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: guy light lit it up and he was a legend 143 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: and the Gatorade Player of the Year and everything. And 144 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: then I watched this guy in Texas. I'm like, holy cow, 145 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: he played high school in this area. I'm covering good players. Uh. 146 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: And of course Chris went onto the great career at Texas. 147 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: I saw twenty six and six. Holy hell, that was amazing. Yeah, 148 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: not bad, you know, I think, um, I never lost 149 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: a home game at the University of Texas. We did 150 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: a lot of good things. You know, we were in 151 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: the top five, I think all my last three years 152 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: as a starting quarterback. But you know, we had Oklahoma 153 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: in our division and we just couldn't beat deb You know, 154 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: it thinks when you're one of the best teams in 155 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: the country and one of the other best teams in 156 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: the country is right in your division, and yeah, they 157 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: had our numbers. So you know, college was awesome, a 158 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: great experience, but that always leaves a little bit of 159 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: a bitter taste in my mouth that we kind of couldn't, 160 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: you know, get to at least the National Championship Game 161 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: while is there? Yeah, no, certainly. But you know, the 162 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: reason I really wanted to bring on Chris because I 163 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: can't think of a guy in the media who has 164 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: really been as hot as anyone in the NFL. Not 165 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: necessarily with predictions, but just the stuff you say in 166 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,719 Speaker 1: the level that you say was in the confidence and 167 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: a lot of it's been accurate. Obviously there's some missus 168 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: that's what we do in this business. But so you've 169 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 1: really seemed to Chris, do a good job of projecting quarterbacks, 170 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: which is the toughest thing to really do in sports. Well, 171 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 1: we know in the NBA, well, who's going to pan 172 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: out from college? It's a lot easier at that level, um, 173 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: But in the NFL, man, it's really hard. And you 174 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: were one of the guys that was early on on 175 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and and I'm just curious you put out 176 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: quarterback rankings all the time. Let's just back up to 177 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: what goes into how you get your ranking together. Sure, sure, 178 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: I mean you know when it when it comes first 179 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: off to like evaluating college quarterbacks and doing that and 180 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: ranking them. You know, I think the first place a 181 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 1: lot of people go wrong. And I'm not gonna sit 182 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: here and tell you I'm like the greatest evaluator in 183 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 1: the history of football. I mean, when you evaluate a 184 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: lot of players, you're gonna be wrong at times. If 185 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick could be wrong on a player, then damn, 186 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: Chris Sims could be wrong on a player too. But 187 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: but like with quarterbacks, I think too much um sometimes 188 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 1: spans people in the media, even evaluators, get too caught 189 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: up in the things that aren't necessarily um, the quarterbacks 190 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: fault or the the reason the team is successful because 191 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: of the quarterback. You know, everybody gets lost and wins 192 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: and losses and yards and things like that and stats 193 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: of course, and they're just more to the game than that. 194 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: And of course, you know, anybody knows that follows football. 195 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: You know, the context of you know, the team, how 196 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: they play, the support around you, the system you're running. 197 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: All those things have to be taken into account to 198 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: then project where that guy is gonna be, you know, 199 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: or hope to be as an NFL football player, and 200 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: uh that that's I think the biggest thing I do. 201 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: I try to evaluate the player for what he is. 202 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: I didn't look at Sam Donald and go off, man, 203 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: he's at USC and it's so awesome. It's USC and whoa, 204 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: it's all these highlight places and they win a lot 205 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: of big games. Man, he's the best quarterback there is 206 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: no you know, I saw some flaws in the game 207 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: that made me rank him as the third and fourth 208 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: best quarterback. Not that I still think he's a really 209 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: damn good player, but just trying to give some context 210 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: on what I look at. And then you know, Josh 211 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: Allen in that same class, you sit there and go, well, man, 212 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: the stats aren't good, they don't win very much. He 213 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: can't be very good. And you know, the honest truth 214 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: of that was, Damn was at a crappy school. He 215 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: was at Damn He had no support. Danny played in 216 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: some games with absolutely horrible weather and offense that did 217 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: no favors from him. Every throw was twenty five yards 218 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: down the field in the twenty wins and all that, 219 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 1: and you know, you have to be able to try 220 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: to look through some of that stuff. You know, so 221 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: you can really get a true, true picture of what 222 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: the player is and maybe in the future. Well, Alan's 223 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: an interesting one because two years in, Chris, would you 224 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: agree that he didn't didn't look amazing. I think he 225 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: was like fifty completions, very erratic, a lot of fumbles 226 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: and it just seemed like he didn't get it. Something 227 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: clicked and and it's weird. Nobody has totally articulated what 228 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: the hell clicked last year for Alan, but he made 229 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: the jump to lightspeed and was an MVP candidate. A 230 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: lot of it seems to do with Brian Dable, but 231 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 1: they also got digs outside and it's like, well, geez, 232 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: he's all of a sudden look incredible. What did you 233 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: see in Alan that made him look so incredible last year? 234 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: And can he duplicate that? I? Oh, he definitely can 235 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: duplicate it. You know, I've been around the guy he's being. 236 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: You said it, Brian day Ball is a great coach. 237 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: His talents real. You know, that's the first thing that 238 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: jumped off to me about Wyoming. Yeah, the numbers, the 239 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: completion percentage might not always been good, but even with 240 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: some of those and some of his best throws were 241 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: in completions where you'd go, oh my gosh, I can't 242 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: believe he's fit it in the window right there, and 243 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: his guy dropped it because there was four people around him. 244 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: But you know, he was crying to groom at Wyoming 245 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: because they knew they weren't good to go just be crazy, 246 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: go play the game. If you don't carry us, we 247 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: can't win the game. And it's like he had no 248 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: governor or no break and that led to bad decisions 249 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: and some things like that. You know, now that's second 250 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: year you talk about with Josh Allen, you know, it's 251 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: it's a great conversation. Yeah, I think the thing that 252 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: was missing still in that second year was still just 253 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: a little bit of polish right understanding situational football. And yeah, 254 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: there was I think he was still working on the 255 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: mechanics of becoming more accurate. But I would also say 256 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 1: people were still I think because there's so many haters 257 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: about him coming out in the draft. He was through 258 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: twenty touchdowns, nine interceptions, went to a playoff game and 259 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 1: people acted like, oh this I don't know about this guy. 260 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: You know, I know they blow that blew that lead 261 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: against the Houston Texas in the wild Card game, but 262 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: they were up sixteen nothing because of Josh Allen and 263 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: some of the crazy things he did. So I think 264 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: again got a little overblown at times. I think with 265 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: overevaluating Josh Allen, some people they don't want to quite 266 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: give him his credit even though they're seeing him improve 267 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: as a player. And uh no, I think he's a 268 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: superstars here to stay. Jason, yeah, you know, and Chris, 269 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: you know this from the media. Some people in the 270 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: media get wrapped up in what somebody isn't instead of 271 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: that they can be you know what Josh Allen is 272 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: not accurate? Well, he can be accurate. Maybe the maybe 273 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: the system didn't really work for him, and that I 274 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: think that was where my big miss was on Mahomes, 275 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: Like you know, he's putting up video game numbers in 276 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: the Big Twelve. But Chris, you know, I mean, yeah, 277 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: this is not a slight to the Big twelve. Like 278 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: they hadn't produced any NFL star quarterbacks ever, I don't 279 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: think in the last twenty years before Mahomes, And that 280 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: was my big thing and is an idiotic move by 281 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: me to overlook Mahomes because just because there hasn't been 282 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: one doesn't mean, there can't be Jason and and you 283 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: were spotting about Mahomes. Well you know, yeah, you know, 284 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: I think again you get listen. First off, your point 285 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: about the Big Twelve is real. I always get concerned 286 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: a little bit about the Big Twelve just about any 287 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: position because it's a flag football conference, basic conference, right, 288 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: So trust me. When I heard about Mahomes and I 289 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: turned on the film and all that, I thought, Man, 290 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna see some Texas tech guy who, just 291 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: like all the other ones, isn't really that talented, but 292 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: it's got all these numbers and he's over hyped. I 293 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: really expected that. But I turned it on and I went, oh, damn, 294 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: whoa like that ball? He made that throw from like, 295 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: you know, floating backwards. WHOA he made that throw sidearm, 296 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: you know, between a tight window thirty yards down the field. 297 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: And I started to realize, like, wait, this ain't the 298 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: system or anything like this. In fact, he's making the system, 299 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: you know, in a lot of ways. And between the athleticism, 300 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: the strengthen the arm, some of the versatility he had 301 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: and all the different types of throws, I just went, man, 302 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: I don't know how it doesn't work, but Jason. Again, 303 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: that's another great point. You know the conference, you know 304 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: the record of his team. Hey, we all have right now. 305 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: We're in this era. If the team wins, it's all 306 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: the quarterback. If they lose, it's all the quarterbacks. Supposed 307 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: to be the greatest team sport in the world. But 308 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: yet when it comes down to that, we just boil 309 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: it down to one player. And I think that, you know, 310 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: made people miss evaluate to wait, he went four and 311 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: seven in the Big Twelve with Texas Tech. Yeah, when 312 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: you're around you know, crappy players and stuff, I don't 313 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: care who you are. I mean John Elways one of 314 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: the greatest quarterbacks I've ever seen. He won three and 315 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: seven as a senior stamper. So you know, again, there's 316 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: more two it than just the one guy. And that's 317 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: where I always get back to evaluate the player realistically, 318 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: evaluate to like, if he has a bad game, don't 319 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: just go oh, of that game was bad? What the hell? 320 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: Look at it and go, wait, were there people open? 321 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: Was he protected? Did he really have a realistic chance 322 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: to play good and actually win the game? Don't just 323 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: chalk it up to oh, bad stats, they lost. He 324 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: didn't play good, And I think sometimes that's where people 325 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: kind of get lost in the weeds and that stuff. Yet, 326 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: and Sam Donald will be an interesting test case, right 327 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: because he was with Adam Gaze, and you know, I 328 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: felt for the Adam Gaze thing because thanks to Peyton 329 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: Manning hyping the hell out of him and he had 330 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: no weapons with with my Jets, I'm o die big 331 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: time Jets fan, and I can totally see Donald thriving 332 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: in Carolina. I mean, he's got Joe Brady and he's 333 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: got a ton of weapons He's got, you know, between 334 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: the receivers and McCaffrey like there are in the NFC, 335 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: there are a really good offensive attack like Donald could 336 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: put up great numbers. Would you agree with that this year? 337 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: I would totally agree, Jason, you know I do. I think, 338 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: first off, Caroline is a sneaky good team on the rise. 339 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be shocked if there were coming down the 340 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: stretch in December and they're in the playoff conversation, They've 341 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,479 Speaker 1: been a really good job building that team, and I 342 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: totally agree with you with Sam Donald. Listen, I like 343 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 1: Sam Donald. You can win a Super Bowl with Sam Donald. Yeah, 344 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: I didn't think he was Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen 345 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: or anything like that. But we've seen a lot less 346 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: talented quarterbacks get to the Super Bowl, less talented than 347 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: than Sam Donald. Donald. You know, can I swear on 348 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: here Jason? Of course? Yeah? Let the excellent. Yeah good Jason. 349 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: I mean, when you're surrounded by ship, you're being coached 350 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: by ship, you're gonna get shipped on you and smell 351 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: like shit at times, you know. And that's where he 352 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: was stuck. To your point with the New York Jets. 353 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: What was he supposed to do? Tell me anybody where? 354 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: Where was he supposed like? How was he supposed to 355 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: tear it up? Below average offensive line, no run game 356 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: like you said, no receivers or weapons, average defense, all 357 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: of those issues. Nobody can overcome that. I do think 358 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna see Sam Donald, you know, kind of rise 359 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: or or certainly open some people's eyes this year. I'd 360 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: be shocked if he doesn't have a good year. Yeah. Now, 361 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: speaking of Super Bowl, we I have to let's just 362 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 1: quickly jump to Tom Brady. You put out your quarterback rankings, 363 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 1: heads exploded everywhere. Uh maybe you heard from Brady. I 364 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe he reached out to you. But you 365 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: had Tom Brady. Tense. Now, I do have a question. Okay, 366 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: you put out the rankings. Uh, is this if you 367 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 1: could have a quarterback for one game, this is who 368 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 1: you would choose in order? Is this who is the best? 369 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: Right now? Because you had I think Kyler Murray, who 370 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: I love, obviously ahead of Brady Um. But you had 371 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 1: Brady behind Dak Prescott, Josh Allen second, ahead of Aaron Rodgers. Like, 372 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: I just want to know what does quarterback linkings mean? Sure, 373 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: it's it is about and it's basically like, hey, everything's equal. 374 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: Now we can't bring the team along with you and 375 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: all the great things he died, Like this is what 376 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: we're trying to talk about the evaluation of the quarterback, 377 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 1: right you know we can't get lost in that. So 378 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: what it is is basically my quarterback depth chart. That's 379 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,199 Speaker 1: how I do my top forty. That's really where I go. 380 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: And you know, people always go crazy about the Tom Brady. Listen, 381 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: Tom Brady is the man. I know that. I all, 382 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: I say he's not the greatest quarterback of all time. 383 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 1: I know he has the most rings. I get that, 384 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: you know I do, But I think there's they're Definitely 385 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: quarterbacks been better in the history of the game than 386 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, but he's been in some unbelievable circumstances. I 387 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: know he's awesome, and I'm not trying to take anything 388 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: away from that, but I'm one of those guys that 389 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: tells you, like, if Aaron Rodgers was in New England, 390 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: they would have won ten Super Bowls in a row, 391 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: that it wouldn't have been, you know. So that's where 392 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 1: I go a little bit. Brady amazing, but at forty three, 393 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: you know, and again he what what he? You don't 394 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: think Kyler Murray could have had some of those same 395 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 1: results with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers with a top five 396 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 1: offensive line, a good run game, top weapons in football, 397 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 1: and the top three defense. You know, That's where I 398 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: think people again get lost in translation. They think they 399 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: just give the credit to one guy all the time, 400 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: and it's a very very talented team. Listen, if you 401 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: put Tom Brady in Buffalo last year, there's gonna be problems. 402 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: He's not gonna be able to survive without a run 403 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: game and just an average defense and not always great 404 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,719 Speaker 1: pass protection, and now have to scramble and extend plays 405 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: and do those type of things, right, that's not what 406 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: he is. If you give him the right support system, Man, 407 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 1: he's amazing. He's the clutchest quarterback I've ever seen. He's 408 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: got a great arm. But right now, at forty three, 409 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: I can't sit here and say, with all things equal, 410 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: that he's better than those nine guys in front of them. 411 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 1: And I know I have a lot of people that 412 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: hate me because I say that. So it's it's all 413 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: fair and you you backed up. I guess what I 414 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: would counter with is, how would you rank the importance 415 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: of what's around the quarterback, whether it's a line uh 416 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: skill position players, system, head coach, offensive coordinator, like, what 417 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: is the order of those of importance? System would be 418 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: the first thing. The system can overcome a lot, you know, 419 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 1: it really can. And that to me again was you 420 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: know what gets little lost with Brady? You know is 421 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 1: again his career, it's one of the best systems ever 422 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: nobody and the numbers back this up, Jason, Nobody's thrown 423 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: to more wide open receivers in the history of football 424 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,959 Speaker 1: than Tom Brady. He's had the greatest separation with receivers 425 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: compared to dB is the last eighteen years in football 426 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: over anybody. Protection is up there along with it. So 427 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: I would go scheme one because that can hide a 428 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: lot of deficiencies and your coach can trick things up 429 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: and do that thing. Second after that, I'd probably go 430 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: offensive line because at least, you know, offensive and gives 431 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 1: you a fighting chance to run the ball, do play 432 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 1: action pass, and you know, of course protect the quarterback 433 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: to where if you do got a good arm and 434 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: you're accurate, you know, you don't have to have the 435 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: greatest receivers in the history of football to make it 436 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: all happen. And then I would say weaponry after that 437 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: is uh the most important thing, you know, So I 438 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: would probably rank them in that order, you know. And 439 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: and that's where you know again, I know you're getting 440 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 1: me on this Tom Brady thing. I'm gonna sound like 441 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,479 Speaker 1: a hater. No, no, he don't sound like hater. This 442 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 1: is but my pushback will be so and again I'm 443 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: I'm born in New York, so from conditioned to not 444 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,959 Speaker 1: like anything Boston like Hatriot, clfic, I don't like any 445 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: of those teams. Um. So Brady thrived as a you 446 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 1: would say he was like a checkdown artist right in 447 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 1: his first couple of years when he took over from 448 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: blood Cell. Right, he was not running the team right. 449 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: He was a game, not running down the team. I'm 450 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: not gonna say a checkdown artist. Now, they threw the 451 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: ball aggressively down the field, but they managed the game. 452 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: There was that was Giants football, you know what I mean. 453 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: They were gonna run the ball, play defense, and then 454 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 1: hey it's third and eight, Tom, we need you to 455 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: throw a fifteen yard laser out round here. Or hey 456 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: it's the end of the game. We gotta come back. 457 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: And then they opened things up. That's the way they played. 458 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: It wasn't until about two thousand six where they started 459 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: to go, Okay, Brady, we're gonna spread the field, and 460 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: now you can start to carry us a little bit 461 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 1: in the shotgun and do those type of things. And 462 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: and that would be my thing about Brady. He's done 463 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: so many systems, right, whether it is game manager. Hey 464 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: we're gonna go two tight ends with Gronkin and her 465 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: end is we're gonna change it up. Now we're gonna 466 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 1: bring in Randy Moss. Now we're gonna develop this slot receiver. 467 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: I mean, he basically made Welker uh And you know 468 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: I'm forgetting the other small white guy's names. He created 469 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 1: that basically with the slots. And you know, now he 470 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: goes to Tampa and you're like, oh, what's the system 471 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: gonna be. Well, he's got a really good float fleet 472 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: of talent on the outside in Evans and he makes 473 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: another slot receiver huge catch against the Packers in the 474 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 1: playoff game. Like, that's the only thing why I would 475 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: say he's still the go. He's done every system you 476 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: put him in, boom, he delivers. Probably. Well, this is 477 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: where I push you're giving him the credit for inventing 478 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: the offense now and he acquiring the players, And I'm 479 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: telling you that New England invented the modern day slot receiver. 480 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: They invented it. So he was the benefactor of schemes 481 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 1: before the rest of the NFL had even caught on 482 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: the Gronkowski and Aaron Hernandez stuff. Yeah, the slot receiver. 483 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: Let's spread the field and we'll let Edelman and every 484 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 1: Randy Moss do their things and things like that. Yes, 485 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: he's been the benefactor of that type of stuff, But 486 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 1: that to me is more Belichick and McDaniels. You know, 487 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 1: That's where I think also people they want to go. No, No, 488 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: he just a quarterback. They gave him the place. He 489 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: didn't invent the plays too, you know, and of course 490 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 1: they're cutting edge, and I think that's where it drives 491 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: me crazy and sometimes do become a Brady hater because, um, 492 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: he just gets the credit for everything that ever happened 493 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 1: in New way. Normally i'd agree, but what is mcdid 494 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 1: What is McDaniels done without Brady? Uh? And I know 495 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: he hasn't had the great quarterbacks, but we just saw 496 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: them last year and okay, maybe they get it pass 497 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 1: but this year there's got to be pressure on Belichick 498 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: and and McDaniels to deliver like the quarterback. But like 499 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 1: just historically, Brady leaves the awesome Belichick and then he 500 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: went to Super Bowl, you know, and it's like the 501 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: Bucks hadn't done Jack squad in ten years. I don't know. 502 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a it's a tough one because you're right, 503 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: was the quarterback the Bucks. The team was ready, They 504 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: just needed that quarterback to come in and add a 505 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 1: little polish and bring it all together in detail to 506 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: the football team and of course take care of the football. 507 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: You know. So that's where again I know, I I don't. 508 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 1: Brady is certainly one of the five greatest of all time. 509 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: There's no doubt. I'm not trying to paint them too 510 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: badly here, but it sounds like I probably am. No, no, no, no, 511 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's a legit discussion. Hey, Jason, I 512 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: would tell you he went to and Super Bowls, right, 513 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: and five of them. He was outplayed in the championship game, 514 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: but still got to go to the Super Bowl. I 515 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 1: mean one of them that they didn't need them. You know, 516 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: he was outplayed by Joe Flacco once. He threw three 517 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: interceptions against Philip Rivers. He got out played in the 518 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 1: epic meltdown last year by Aaron Rodgers, but his team won, 519 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,360 Speaker 1: so everybody forgets it. If they lose that game, we're 520 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: thinking totally different. We're going you at a seventeen point 521 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: lead and you threw an interception three consecutive series in 522 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: a row. So that's what I mean too. He's been 523 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 1: a benefactor of Stefan Gilmour, Durell Reevi. This you know, 524 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 1: uh ty law, I mean, this has been He was 525 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 1: a part of a great machine, and of course he 526 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: was a huge part of it and delivered in all that. 527 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: But I just sometimes get tired of like, God Brady, 528 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: God Brady. Yeah, it's annoying, But the problem is he 529 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 1: keeps winning now. I think also, I do believe he 530 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: has three Super Bowl comeback victories in the fourth quarter. 531 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't want again. Seattle is the 532 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 1: one that really was like, oh my gosh, like yet 533 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: all with the legion of boom was incredible, and I 534 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: think they went the length of the field for two 535 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: tds in the fourth quarter, and that was one of 536 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,479 Speaker 1: the consciousness. Yes, definitely, that was as clutch as it gets. 537 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 1: He is as clutch as it gets. That's where I 538 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: became a fan of Brady. It was more like Derek Jeter. 539 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 1: You know, That's where I look at Brady. I don't 540 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 1: that's how I kind of view him, you know, I 541 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: I view I view Aaron Rodgers as uh, Mike Trout 542 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 1: is one of the greatest of all time. And then 543 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 1: I view Jeter. I view Brady more as Jeter, like, oh, 544 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: he's at the plate, he's gonna get the clutch hit 545 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: here and they're gonna win the game. And he knows 546 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: how to and he does have great leadership skills and 547 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 1: knows how to rally people. And you know that's where 548 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: there's no doubt. I won't fight him against any of 549 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 1: those things. And honestly, listen, Jason, in my list, you know, 550 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: from pure talent and what they delivered on the field 551 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: to a degree, I really wanted to put Ryan Tannehill, 552 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: Herbert in front of them for what they did, right, 553 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: but I gave I gave well Tannehill, I mean, nobody's 554 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 1: taken more advantage of points, yards available, anything like. That's 555 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: one of the best down the field throwers in football 556 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: in the last few years. But I but I gave 557 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: Brady the edge over them because of the thing you're 558 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 1: kind of talking about his ability to lead, big cluck 559 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: do all those type of things. Let's not forget this too. 560 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: Last year because yeah, you got me going, they lost 561 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: five games they gave. Those five losses were all because 562 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 1: of one reason, and that was Tom Brady. You go back, 563 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 1: look at the stats, look at the games. I know 564 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: he was in a new system. I'm not trying to 565 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: be a total jerk here, you know, but sometimes we 566 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: kind of forget and we have revisionist history. You know, 567 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: when it's all said and done, and now see now 568 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna get all no, no, no, no, no, listen, 569 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: people are gonna be fine because because guess what, Like 570 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: you know, the Brady Arians tug of war was interesting, 571 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: um and you know announcers Tony Romo really seemed to 572 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: get on the case of Arians in that one loss. 573 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: I think Temple loss, ye chief Chief Speed him and 574 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: basically Romo was like, listen, they should be they shouldn't 575 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: be doing that, they should be doing this. And there's 576 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: theories that did Tom Brady you know in the pregame 577 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: uh lead up where you meet with the announcers in 578 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: the day's leading up and you talk with him, did 579 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: Brady plant some stuff with Romo to get him to 580 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: say that to get it through to Arians, Because maybe 581 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: Brady wasn't getting through to Arians because everything clicked. Remember 582 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: after that loss, they didn't lose a game. You know, 583 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: a lot will play action. The only reason I knocked 584 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: Tannehill is you know, listen, he was in Miami. He 585 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, this guy's decent. Buddy had Adam Gates 586 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: for some of that, and then he goes to Arthur 587 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: Smith and he liked the world on fire, but I 588 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: want to come back to the list. But while you 589 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: mention it, does this mean that Arthur Smith and Matt 590 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: Ryan could be up to something good in Atlanta this year? Yeah, well, 591 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: they could be. I don't know if the team's quite 592 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: built the way Arthur Smith would like to run his 593 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: offense right, which is, you know he wants to he 594 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: wants to play through the run game and be aggressive 595 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: with play action shots off of that, And I don't 596 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: know if they're quite built ready to dominate in the 597 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: run game yet. And I would also say, as much 598 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: as I love Matt Ryan and still think he's really 599 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: damn good, he does not have the ability to push 600 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: the ball down the field like Ryan Tannehill. So there's 601 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: a little difference there. And I don't think they'll be 602 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: able to quite play like the Titans because you don't 603 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: got Derrick Henry in that offensive line, but they're gonna 604 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: try to slowly emulate that. And I do think that 605 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: you know, whether it's this year next year, that the 606 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: Falcons will go in the right direction under Arthur stand 607 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: the well, the one easy NFL draft bet was will 608 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: they take Kyle Pitts because he likes the two tight 609 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: ends right he loved that in Tennessee, and so now 610 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: he's got Pitts and Hurst And I mean, I'm kind 611 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: of with you. I don't know that Mike Davis can 612 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: stay healthy enough um to take the punishment that Derrick 613 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: Henry took the Tennessee. But okay, back to your list 614 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: real quick. Um, Yeah, Taysom Hill twenty four, Jamis and 615 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: a lot of people watch Jamis Winston on Monday Night 616 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: Football off got to give him the job Jamis Winston. 617 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: Look at how good he looks. And I've never been 618 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,479 Speaker 1: a Jamis guy. Um, what do you think Sean Payton 619 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: does for Week one? Who do you think he starts? 620 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: I really thought for a long time he would go 621 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: Tasom Hill and tasto. I thought, you know, that's his 622 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: cut toy. I thought he was very intrigued about playing 623 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: him by the at the quarterback position. He you know, 624 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: I had also heard through the grape vine that he 625 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: was also intrigued by kind of running a different offense 626 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: than the Drew Brees one and that adding that Lamar 627 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: Jackson element and all of those things. Um. But here, 628 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: as of late, I don't think there's any doubt that 629 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: it will be Jamie Swifton, especially after that game last night. 630 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: I think that's solidifies it. I really do. And you know, 631 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: to your point, like what you just brought up with 632 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: Romo right and the Brady thing, like, I think you're right. 633 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: I do. I think there was Brady probably dropped him 634 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: a hint because after that game, they played the way 635 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: Brady wanted to play. Run the ball and then just 636 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,479 Speaker 1: protect me so I don't have to move. And if 637 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: you look at Brady's bad plays last year, they were 638 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: all when he was under pressure, the blitz, empties, packages, 639 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: all that where they protected him and and then he 640 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: if you're open, he's gonna hit you. That's there's no 641 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: doubt about that with Tom Brady. Now getting back to 642 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: who the hell are we talking about their Jamis Oh 643 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: Jamis Yeah? I think that you know ultimately you know 644 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: Jamis Is he's a good quarterback. Sean Payton believes he 645 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: can beat the dumb plays out of him and stop 646 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: some of that stuff. And I think also what they're 647 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: looking at as Taysom Hill, they don't want to take 648 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: take him off the field for all the other things 649 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: he does with the team. And if you listen to 650 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: the Monday night telecast last night, they said a lot 651 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: of that stuff, and to your point, where I was 652 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: going was, you know, when you're announcing the game, you 653 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: get to talk to a lot of people in the organization, 654 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: gonna feel for what's really going on. I think they 655 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: were kind of trying to let us know what's really 656 00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: going on last night. Fox Sports Radio has the sports 657 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows 658 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: at Fox sports Radio dot com and within the I 659 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: Heart Radio app search f s R to listen live. 660 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: Kept you a little long. I want to wrap up 661 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: with the Mormon Mahomes, Zach Wilson, who looked really damn 662 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: good in Green Bay, UM over the weekend. You know, 663 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: they had the injury to Lawson and we talked with 664 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: Darren Daniel Jeremiah about that yesterday, and I don't want 665 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: to go too deep on that. I just want to 666 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: focus on Wilson, who you say is the best quarterback 667 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: to come out of the draft. Yeah, yeah, you know again, 668 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: you got to block out all the stuff, right the 669 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: y U small school right? Oh? Not good competition, I 670 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean Big Ben, Joe Flacco, Josh Allen, 671 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, they all worked out okay with against lesser competition. 672 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: You know sometimes too, you know, when you play on 673 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: that as compared to maybe Trevor Lawrence and Clemson, the 674 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: game's very easy because you've got a ton of talent 675 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: around you and you don't have to do a whole 676 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: lot all the time to win football games and look good. 677 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: But Zack Wilson, I think Jason would just jumped out 678 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: to me. You know, he's made for the modern day NFL. 679 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: You know, he has an armed that's like Mahomes or 680 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: Rogers where he could just flick it forty yards no 681 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: matter what, you know, body position he's in. If he's 682 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,240 Speaker 1: in the pocket and he wants to throw a hundred 683 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: mile prour fastball, he can do that. He ran somewhat 684 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 1: of a lot of pro schemes when he was at 685 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,399 Speaker 1: b y U. And to me right now, still as 686 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: much as I love the Lamar Jackson running quarterback and 687 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: all those type of things, you know, Lamar Jackson is 688 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: the greatest runner we've seen, and he can't run in 689 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: the divisional playoff games in the NFL. You're still got 690 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: a gay in the pocket and make throws or extend 691 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,479 Speaker 1: plays out of the pocket and make throws from there, 692 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: and that's where I saw Zach Wilson being really special, 693 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 1: and we'll see maybe I'll be get lucky here and 694 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: he will be the best one. It almost crazier than 695 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: Wilson over Lawrence, which you know is a little crazy. 696 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 1: You had Kellen Monde from Texas A and M ahead 697 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 1: of Justin Fields and trade Lance. Now your buddy Kyle 698 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 1: Shanahan took You're now saying he's the sixth best quarterback 699 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: in the draft. They took him a third overall. Um, 700 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 1: I'm sure you were surprised that a lot of people 701 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: were that they went lands. I sure as he was. Um, 702 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, Kellen mond do you think really I 703 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: didn't see it from him, but maybe I'm missing something. No, No, 704 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: don't worry. Let's sorry. You're right. The only times in 705 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:30,919 Speaker 1: the tell I mean, we're not going to see him 706 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: this year. We know that. I do like a lot 707 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: of what Kellen man. I mean, his throwing is is 708 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: top high level. He's got a really quick release, he 709 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,240 Speaker 1: can really throw it with power and make game changing 710 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 1: type plays and really from the pocket, I thought he's 711 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson and Mac Jones were clearly the three best, 712 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 1: you know, from the pocket, throwing the football, making decisions. 713 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: You know, I might be wrong against this one. I 714 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 1: said this many times. I liked all six of these, 715 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 1: but I had to put him in order, and yeah, 716 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,919 Speaker 1: he was kind of my wild card, right. I had 717 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: concerns about justin Fields and Lance's ability to throw the football. 718 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: You know, that's where Fields hasn't really impressed me. And 719 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,720 Speaker 1: I'm I'm looking like I'm wrong with that one. You know, again, 720 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: I'd like to see more of legit NFL. That's he's 721 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: in the pocket against the starting defense and he's got 722 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 1: to make tight window throws. I haven't seen that yet, 723 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,359 Speaker 1: but still to the eye tests so far, it's been 724 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: damn good. Lance. On the other hand, yeah, I got 725 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 1: questions about you saw the game the other night. We've 726 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: seen some highlight plays, but we've seen some damn like 727 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 1: what are you doing? Damn how do you miss that throw? Well, 728 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 1: they're not showing that people aren't. Those highlights don't make 729 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: it to social media. The yard touchdown pass. That's where 730 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 1: I become the biggest asshole on social media because because 731 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 1: it's just it's selective sometimes with certain guys, you know. 732 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 1: But then like Josh Allen his first two years, he 733 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,839 Speaker 1: made highlight. There was no what he ever showed him. 734 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: They just showed the bad place. I don't know why 735 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,839 Speaker 1: I Trey Lance for some reason. It's just they only 736 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 1: show the good. They try to make an excuse for 737 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: a ball that's miss thrown over the middle and intercepted. 738 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 1: And you know that. I honestly think Shanahan should start 739 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 1: Trey Lance. I do think he can manage him the 740 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: right way right away from week one. He did it 741 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: with r G three. This team is way better than 742 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 1: the Washington football team. You know he can do it. 743 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,959 Speaker 1: But Lance has gotta get in the trust tree. And 744 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 1: what you saw the other night with an interception, then 745 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 1: the very next series, his first throw should have been intercepted. 746 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: It hit the linebacker in the chest. Then two plays 747 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: later his next throw, he I think it he's playing 748 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 1: a starting defense. He gets stripped, sack bumbled. If you 749 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 1: can remember, he holds the ball floating to his left 750 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,919 Speaker 1: and gets sacked, you know, and that's a run there where. 751 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 1: If that's the regular season, I know my buddy Kyle 752 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: Shin and he's going ship. We could be down twenty 753 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 1: one than the heartbeat just because our quarterback did a 754 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: few bone head things. So I really think he wants 755 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: him to start. I think that's why Shannahan was annoyed 756 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 1: after the game in the postgame press conference, because it 757 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: was there Jimmy g through interception, they took him out 758 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 1: of the game put Lance in. I think really Shanahan 759 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 1: was hoping like, all right, this is the time, here 760 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 1: we go, and you know, it didn't quite work out 761 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 1: that way, so we're still in limbo here for one 762 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 1: more week on that decision. Yeah, it feels like he's 763 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 1: not the kids, like twenty one. He took a year old. 764 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 1: Didn't he opt out for years he's twenty one or 765 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: twenty two. But yeah, they didn't play football up there 766 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 1: North Dakota State last year other than one game. And 767 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: that's the thing too. He that's where it's tough. He's raw. 768 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 1: Like you're saying, he's young and he hasn't played a lot, 769 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 1: so you're I'd be scared too to send him for 770 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 1: a whole year, going, damn, what are we gonna not 771 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,319 Speaker 1: have him played football for two years here and then 772 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 1: put him in And I would be shocked. Even if 773 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo starts Trey Lance will have a package of 774 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: plays during every game. We have yet to see the 775 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,760 Speaker 1: quarterback design run from Shanahan in the preseason. Why because 776 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 1: he's holding it for the regular season. And I think, yeah, 777 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,879 Speaker 1: and Jason the last thing started to talk so much. 778 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,399 Speaker 1: I do think, Uh, Jimmy g is. You know, he's 779 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 1: gonna know win situation. You know, even if they start 780 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 1: out one on one and he hasn't played well and 781 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 1: he's at home, he's gonna get booed the first three 782 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 1: passes he throws in complete. And it's just gonna always 783 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,840 Speaker 1: be this pressure of put Trey Lanson, put Trey Lanson, 784 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 1: put Trey Lanson. And I just think eventually that happens 785 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 1: here and I would expect it pretty early. On me. Man, 786 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 1: they got a Super Bowl to they should steamroll Detroit 787 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: in the opening. That's so that's a cake walk. But 788 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 1: I just think it's too risky for Shanahan. But he's 789 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 1: your guy, you know him. But I don't know, you 790 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,800 Speaker 1: know me, I thought he was gonna draft Mac Jones 791 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 1: and I'm wrong, So I don't know. I don't have 792 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 1: these conversations with him. I talked about him as if Hey, 793 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 1: I know him like you're saying as a friend, as 794 00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,360 Speaker 1: a guy, and I know what he's thinking football wise, 795 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 1: but I have had no direct conversations about this subject 796 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,879 Speaker 1: to to give anybody some inside info or anything like that. 797 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 1: He's not gonna tell me what's really going on there, right, 798 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 1: It's it's weird. We talked with Daniel Jeremiah about this. 799 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 1: Like you were in NFL front offices. You have a 800 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 1: lot of relationships. You've interview with teams. You know, when 801 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,879 Speaker 1: you're coming out critical of people, you know, are you 802 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 1: hearing from them? And you know he said, yeah, some 803 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: people reach out and you know it doesn't get combated. 804 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 1: But you're like friends with Kyle Jehan dating back to college. 805 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 1: Did he reach out to you and say, hey, man, 806 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,760 Speaker 1: the chill or anything? Did he say anything? No, he 807 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 1: he knows me. He knows that I'm gonna just evaluate 808 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 1: for what I see. He knows I have knowledge of 809 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 1: the game, and he knows he's not gonna sway my 810 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 1: opinion or decision on some of these things, especially quarterback. 811 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: You know, he knows I know a lot there. So hey, 812 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 1: I'm still a believer that it was mac Jones when 813 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 1: the trade was made. That I am a believer that 814 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: that's still the case. You know, he could tell me 815 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 1: whatever he wants, But I've heard too many rumors and 816 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 1: things to think it was Mac Jones. And somewhere in 817 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,279 Speaker 1: the last three weeks or so before the draft, it 818 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 1: changed and that became the love affair with with Trey Lance. 819 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 1: And I think Shanahan in a lot of ways is 820 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,360 Speaker 1: looking for that next thing to do in the NFL, 821 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 1: that next cutting edge thing on offense, because everybody steals 822 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 1: his plays, his play action passes, his run game, everything 823 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 1: like this, and I do think Trey Lands can kind 824 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 1: of give him a leg up in that department. Yeah, 825 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 1: it's interesting. Mac Jones has looks so good in New 826 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,760 Speaker 1: England and now there's the COVID cam. Not he doesn't 827 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,880 Speaker 1: have COVID, but he was a close proximity to someone 828 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,840 Speaker 1: and mcton Matt might start from week one and that 829 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,320 Speaker 1: this was the guy who Shanahan supposedly wanted. I wonder, 830 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 1: you know, if if there's any issues with the Lynch 831 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,800 Speaker 1: Shanahan marriage. In the front of was someone we're outside 832 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 1: forces pushing Lance. I don't know. That's it's a fascinating subplot. 833 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 1: It definitely is there's no doubt. And I don't have 834 00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 1: the answers for you there. I really don't. Um. You know, 835 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 1: the one thing, I just feel like because he had 836 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 1: a he had a uh like, well want to change 837 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 1: the offense a little bit. That was the only inkling 838 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,440 Speaker 1: I got through the whole process, you know. And of 839 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 1: course we know they were very frustrated with Jimmy Garoppolo 840 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 1: the haul off season, tried to trade for Matthew Stafford, 841 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, Aaron Rodgers. I mean, they did everything they 842 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 1: could to replace Jimmy g And that's also some of 843 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,839 Speaker 1: the logic why I think it could be a short 844 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 1: leash for him, just because of how hard they tried 845 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 1: to replace them all year long. So we'll see. You 846 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,400 Speaker 1: made a good point. I mean, they're a super Bowl team. 847 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 1: It's risky to do that. I don't know where that goes, um, 848 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,840 Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm sure Mac Jones and his play is 849 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,400 Speaker 1: making Shanahan a little nervous, going, damn, I hope I 850 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 1: picked the right guy. Yeah, yeah, alright. He is Chris Simms, 851 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 1: Texas legend, former quarterback in the NFL. He's with NBC. 852 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 1: Do you want to pump up anything Chris, I mean 853 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 1: you don't really need to. You're such a huge deal 854 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,279 Speaker 1: now in sports media. Well, thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah. 855 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,840 Speaker 1: And one thing, Chris sims My Christians Unbuttoned podcast, you know, 856 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,360 Speaker 1: that's one. It's all football, that's all I do. I 857 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 1: breakdown film, I breakdown games. Talk about that. You know, 858 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 1: if anybody wants to, you know, kind of hear my 859 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 1: thoughts and my breakdowns. Christians Unbuttoned. You know, you can 860 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 1: get that where anywhere our podcasts are available. All right, Chris, Hey, 861 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 1: thanks a lot. Congrats on all your success and we'll 862 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,800 Speaker 1: enjoy your NBC stuff and the podcast this season. All right, Jersey, 863 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,919 Speaker 1: New York and see you man. You're the man. Jason 864 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:26,399 Speaker 1: be good.