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Speaker 2: Notre Dame handled Georgia. They look more of an SEC
Speaker 2: team maybe than Georgia did last night. And it's a
Speaker 2: long time coming because Notre Dame has been roughed up
Speaker 2: when it comes to bowl games. But they look like
Speaker 2: they are a complete team that have a few too
Speaker 2: many penalties for my liking, and Georgia just didn't have
Speaker 2: the skill level and I can't remember the last time
Speaker 2: a Georgia team didn't have a true, legitimate running back
Speaker 2: running game. Georgia gets handled twenty three to ten. So
Speaker 2: the final four is set Texas, Ohio State, Penn State,
Speaker 2: and Notre Dame. Here's the early point spreads. According to DraftKings,
Speaker 2: Notre Dame is favored by one and a half versus
Speaker 2: Penn State. Ohio State is a six point favorite against
Speaker 2: Texas and Peak. Speaking of point spreads, I don't know
Speaker 2: the last time we had a point spread of twenty
Speaker 2: points or more, but we we have that right now
Speaker 2: as of this morning. The Ravens are favored by twenty
Speaker 2: against the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: I go back to Super Bowl three when the Baltimore
Speaker 2: Colts were facing Joe Namath and the Jets, and I
Speaker 2: think the Colts were eighteen point favorites, and that's just
Speaker 2: because they dismissed the AFL. They didn't think the AFL
Speaker 2: could match up with the big bad NFL, and we
Speaker 2: know what happened with that huge upset here. But the
Speaker 2: Browns are getting twenty against the Ravens. That's sad. Like
Speaker 2: you know when you talk about your franchise, your team,
Speaker 2: and you're like, all right, you know, we're okay, we're competitive.
Speaker 2: You know, maybe we're a thirteen and a half point
Speaker 2: you're twenty twenty point underdog. Now the Chiefs are ten
Speaker 2: and a half point underdogs against the Broncos. They're not
Speaker 2: playing anybody, and it's in Denver and Denver has to win.
Speaker 2: But those are The Bears are getting ten against the
Speaker 2: Packers last night. Look, the Bears are still the Bears,
Speaker 2: aren't they? Are they resting players for next season? I
Speaker 2: know the Packers got to keep winning, But the Bears
Speaker 2: are getting ten. The Saints are getting fourteen against the Buccaneers. Okay,
Speaker 2: Tampa has to win. The Saints are bad, but it
Speaker 2: felt like it feels like every time these two teams
Speaker 2: get together, it's the team that's not supposed to win.
Speaker 2: Who wins. But the Saints are getting fourteen, the Bears
Speaker 2: getting ten, Chiefs getting ten and a half, the Brown's
Speaker 2: getting twenty. Wow, and it's playing time for the NFL
Speaker 2: with the playoffs starting on Saturday. All right, Seaton pull
Speaker 2: question today. Phone calls always welcome. We'll get to those
Speaker 2: coming up in a little bit.
Speaker 4: Well, we might as well start with a sort of
Speaker 4: an easier one. Who are you rooting for to win
Speaker 4: the national title? Notre Dame, Ohio State, Penn State, Texas. Okay,
Speaker 4: it's pretty easy rooting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, who would you like to see? When I know
Speaker 2: that the TV executives that the Mothership would like to
Speaker 2: have Ohio State versus Notre Dame. I do know that.
Speaker 2: But we got four heavyweights here. Yeah, okay, it didn't
Speaker 2: go as scripted. You know, we thought, all right, these
Speaker 2: teams that have first round buys, well they all lost
Speaker 2: Heisman Trophy candidates. They're all out of here. The SEC,
Speaker 2: I like how the SEC says, hey we got one team,
Speaker 2: it's Texas.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The long standing member of the SEC, Texas is the
Speaker 2: loan representative of the SEC. You know, things have changed now,
Speaker 2: like this might be an anomaly, and I think There'll
Speaker 2: be a lot of people go out on the ledge
Speaker 2: today and say, hey, sec, everybody caught up with you.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to go there yet, but I will
Speaker 2: say the following NILN transfer portal have changed everything because
Speaker 2: it used to be these big programs with STOCKPI talent,
Speaker 2: like Georgia would have three running backs ready to go,
Speaker 2: much like the you had back in the day, be like,
Speaker 2: oh that guy got hurt, well, going to bring in
Speaker 2: this guy. You can't do that anymore. Kids want to play,
Speaker 2: they want to get paid. They may not stay around.
Speaker 2: They may go try to get you a raise. And
Speaker 2: like Jalen Millroe and Alabama's going pro. I don't know
Speaker 2: if Alabama wanted him back, but he's going to go pro.
Speaker 2: It just things change and quickly. And then you get
Speaker 2: a quarterback. You know, Oregon, are they going to be
Speaker 2: in the market for a quarterback? Notre Dame will they
Speaker 2: bring in Quinn Hewers And you know Riley Leonard still
Speaker 2: playing played well last night, but they I mean, this
Speaker 2: is what's going on right now. Remember when you had
Speaker 2: Brian Kelly left Notre Dame because he wanted to go
Speaker 2: play and win national titles. So he went to LSU,
Speaker 2: while Marcus Freeman has Notre Dame in the final four.
Speaker 2: Things change and everything's above board now everybody can pay
Speaker 2: you is one booster. He's just one guy who says, yeah,
Speaker 2: all pony up, just like SMU speaking of the ponies.
Speaker 2: They ponied up and you know, joined the ACC, brought
Speaker 2: in talent, and they made the playoffs. So things have changed.
Speaker 2: Georgia is not Georgia. Alabama's not Alabama. You know, they're
Speaker 2: still going to be very good, but it feels like
Speaker 2: I don't know if they'd come down as much as
Speaker 2: the rest of college football has kind of come up
Speaker 2: a little bit here, like Arizona State. Arizona State should
Speaker 2: have won that game against Texas, went toe to toe
Speaker 2: with Texas and lived to tell about it. Alabama, I mean,
Speaker 2: Alabama got embarrassed this year, so you're even last night.
Speaker 2: I mean, that wasn't a true Georgia team what you
Speaker 2: expect out of Kirby Smart. They just didn't. Now the
Speaker 2: skill position, guys, Now, if Carson Beck is playing quarterback,
Speaker 2: is it a different game. Yes, But I still think
Speaker 2: Notre Dame was the better team last night. Georgia was
Speaker 2: unbelievable last year with lad McConkey, and they had brought Boers.
Speaker 2: I mean that's different. Those are game changing players. They
Speaker 2: didn't have that, and you have these kids who are there,
Speaker 2: and then do I want to go someplace else? Can
Speaker 2: I go someplace else? And that's what's happening here. You're
Speaker 2: not waiting around now. Arch Manning is an anomaly. He waited.
Speaker 2: Now he comes from the Manning family, so they have money.
Speaker 2: He waited. He's not waiting anymore. After this season, it'll
Speaker 2: be his job. But any other place where you've got
Speaker 2: quarterbacks who are going to two schools, three schools during
Speaker 2: their three or four years in college or five or
Speaker 2: six years of college. So it's it's changing. Do I
Speaker 2: want to say that it's parody. I don't, but I
Speaker 2: do think you have more teams now, knowing that you
Speaker 2: can get into the playoffs. You'll spend money to be
Speaker 2: able to make money to be able to get into
Speaker 2: the playoffs. Now there's more hope instead of hey, they're
Speaker 2: just going to take an SEC team and a Big
Speaker 2: ten team, or when we had the Pac twelve. Now
Speaker 2: it's not the case anymore.
Speaker 4: Yes, he'd yeah, it is funny. The timing of nil
Speaker 4: and SEC struggling.
Speaker 2: As a college football source said to me last night, Yeah,
Speaker 2: now that you can do everything above board, it's leveled
Speaker 2: the playing field.
Speaker 4: Now that everybody is just clearly paying Yes everybody because
Speaker 4: it's legal to do yes.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, that's funny. But I don't know if it's parody.
Speaker 2: I don't know if we've gotten there. I'd like to
Speaker 2: see a little more of a sample size here. I mean,
Speaker 2: Alabama was down this year. I don't think we expected
Speaker 2: it because it's Alabama, but they weren't a great football team.
Speaker 2: They at times were just an average team. They were
Speaker 2: non threatening. Yes, there's there.
Speaker 4: They're great brand names these teams left, but are they
Speaker 4: the four best teams left?
Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, Like I'm fine. I don't go like I'm
Speaker 2: not a Penn State fan because of their coach. But
Speaker 2: still they have a good quarterback, they got a good
Speaker 2: edge rusher, and they got a really good tight end.
Speaker 2: Like you can't deny that. But we've never like Penn
Speaker 2: State doesn't win these games. But they're winning these games
Speaker 2: this year. And credit to them because normally we go, hey,
Speaker 2: Penn State and then we'd be like, oh, yeah, they
Speaker 2: bowed out. They're playing in the Gator Bowl. But here
Speaker 2: they are, and they're going to go toe to toe
Speaker 2: with Notre Dame. I would not be surprised if Penn
Speaker 2: State won that game. Texas has been good. Ohio State,
Speaker 2: you know, they they had the hiccup and they paid
Speaker 2: for but then they made Oregon pay for it. So
Speaker 2: I'm fine with where we are with the final four.
Speaker 2: I think it's a pretty good representation here. I'm okay
Speaker 2: with it.
Speaker 4: Yes, all four teams with a buy eliminated. Yeah, what
Speaker 4: does that mean?
Speaker 2: They're going to change that though, because you know two
Speaker 2: of those teams, Arizona State and Boise State next year,
Speaker 2: like if they had you know, the same resume, wouldn't
Speaker 2: get a first round by. That'll change. But you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not surprised at any of that. And then people say,
Speaker 2: oh Rust, you know Oregon had rust or Arizona State
Speaker 2: had Boise State had run. Okay, I mean, I don't
Speaker 2: know if you can say we don't want a first
Speaker 2: round by, we'll give it back to you. But you know,
Speaker 2: to see Georgia and they weren't manhandled. I mean Georgia
Speaker 2: still and then there's some grown ass men on the
Speaker 2: defensive line, but Notre Dame. You know, they made plays.
Speaker 2: There were sixty seconds that changed the game at the
Speaker 2: end of the first half, in the start of the
Speaker 2: second half, that was it. And we wondered, you know,
Speaker 2: how many points is enough. We thought maybe two touchdowns
Speaker 2: would be enough for Notre Dame to win that game.
Speaker 2: I just didn't think Georgia could score and Notre Dame's
Speaker 2: got a really good defense. But here is Georgia head
Speaker 2: coach Kirby Smart.
Speaker 4: Any thoughts on all four teams that had buys losing
Speaker 4: in the first round.
Speaker 3: Do you think that played a factor at all? I
Speaker 3: don't know. I lot me.
Speaker 5: I look at the what Vegas says, and it went
Speaker 5: kind of with what Vegas said, you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: like at least in those two games, I guess ours
Speaker 5: was a I don't know where it was.
Speaker 6: It was close, but you.
Speaker 5: Know, two of those teams were better than the other teams,
Speaker 5: to be honest with you, you know, and that is what
Speaker 5: it is. That's more about the seeding process and where
Speaker 5: it is. But I'm not here to complain about anything.
Speaker 5: You know, given the opportunity, Notre Dame also their best
Speaker 5: defensive player, so I don't know how that's an advantage.
Speaker 2: He's right about Vegas. This is what I keep telling
Speaker 2: you college football. You've embraced gambling, so now embrace Vegas
Speaker 2: to help you seed these teams. Because Vegas has no emotion,
Speaker 2: they have no opinion. They're not part of a fan base.
Speaker 2: Their fan base is the University of Money. That's all
Speaker 2: they care about. That's it. So next year I would
Speaker 2: embrace how the Vegas oddsmakers view these teams of who
Speaker 2: should be favored, and then that will get you the
Speaker 2: seeding that will get you home field advantage a first
Speaker 2: round by That's the smart way to go.
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Speaker 2: He is the parapatetic Dan Orlovski, always on the move,
Speaker 2: and in fact, Dan, where are you right now?
Speaker 8: Nowhere that I know what peripatetic means? I know that,
Speaker 8: but I am. I'm just south of like I think
Speaker 8: Grand Central, on the way to Philly and then on
Speaker 8: the way to Baltimore.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're taking the Amtrak train.
Speaker 3: You got it.
Speaker 2: Okay, are you in the quiet car that you might
Speaker 2: get yelled at for talking?
Speaker 3: We are going to find out. I have no idea.
Speaker 2: Well, let's start with your game. What do you expect? Like,
Speaker 2: how important is this game?
Speaker 3: Oh? I think it's a big deal.
Speaker 8: I mean, obviously Baltimore wins, they win the division, you know,
Speaker 8: and they get to host the playoff game, and you know,
Speaker 8: that's a huge deal to them. It's a huge deal
Speaker 8: to Harball and Lamar, and Lamar's trying to cap off
Speaker 8: a very worthy MVP campaign as well, So it's a
Speaker 8: very big deal, you know. And I think that you know,
Speaker 8: if we're just being candid about the seating and you say, okay, well, if.
Speaker 3: You win the division, will someone's got to go to you?
Speaker 8: And it's more than likely going to be maybe, you know,
Speaker 8: you'll see what happens if it's Pittsburgh or if it's
Speaker 8: the Chargers or whatnot. And we ask them that like
Speaker 8: technically winning the Vision you might have to play the
Speaker 8: Chargers or the Steelers losing and not winning the division,
Speaker 8: you might get to play Houston. And I would argue
Speaker 8: most people would want to play Houston over the Steelers
Speaker 8: or the Chargers but I think they wanted to win
Speaker 8: this vision.
Speaker 2: Okay, your twenty point favorites against Cleveland, Yeah, how did cleve?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: Really, is Cleveland that bad?
Speaker 8: Not individual talent wise, and certainly not defensively, you know,
Speaker 8: defensively when you look at their defensive ross and go, wait,
Speaker 8: a defensive Player of the Year candidate. And you've got
Speaker 8: linebackers that are really good. Grant Delpit's playing really good,
Speaker 8: Denzel Ward's fantastic. Now Denzel Ward's not playing, so that's
Speaker 8: part of that. They just are so poor offensively right now. Obviously,
Speaker 8: multiple quarterbacks have played this year, Baby Zapi's playing. They
Speaker 8: don't really have somebody outside on the perimeter that's really
Speaker 8: impactful outside of Jerry Judy, who having a really good year.
Speaker 3: But they I don't think.
Speaker 8: They're that far off as a team, but they have
Speaker 8: obviously the massive question at quarterback in the future.
Speaker 2: We're talking to Dan Orlovsky NFL Live and he'll be
Speaker 2: on the call. That'll be Saturday with the Browns and
Speaker 2: the Ravens, Chris Fowler, Lewis Riddick, Lord Rutledge Kickoff four
Speaker 2: thirty Eastern on the mother Ship and also ABC. You
Speaker 2: talked about Lamar being the MVP, how much confidence do
Speaker 2: you Is there any difference in your confidence level for
Speaker 2: him in the postseason as opposed to in previous seasons.
Speaker 8: I would think that they're more equipped this year with
Speaker 8: the people that they have, you know, the addition of
Speaker 8: Derek Henry. In talking with them, both Lamar and Todd
Speaker 8: Monkin and Coach Harbaugh, they can't say enough good stuff.
Speaker 8: They can't bring up Derek's impact enough, and the way
Speaker 8: that in their words, you know, Todd Monkin stated it
Speaker 8: really well, was if we can just stay on track right,
Speaker 8: stay ahead of those chains he goes, it gates us
Speaker 8: the opportunity to run the ball again. It doesn't negate
Speaker 8: the role of Derrick Henry, and I think that's a
Speaker 8: really big deal. So I think they have more answers
Speaker 8: the defenses and what they want to do against them.
Speaker 8: I think I'm way more confident in la I've always
Speaker 8: been confident in Lamar in that regard. More confident just
Speaker 8: because this is probably the best he's played and it's
Speaker 8: the slowest the game's ever been for him. There's also
Speaker 8: the reality of being said that it's you got he's
Speaker 8: got to go do it when it's winner go home
Speaker 8: against you know, Patrick Mahomes if that's the case, and
Speaker 8: so when it's that game, he's got to go play
Speaker 8: his best football. And until he does that in that moment,
Speaker 8: it's fair to have that question.
Speaker 2: Linger fill in the blank here. The Buffalo Bills only
Speaker 2: having two Pro Bowl players is blank.
Speaker 8: A testament to the depth of their football team. It's
Speaker 8: a little bit of a testament to or a reminder
Speaker 8: that their division is not very deep. It's not loaded
Speaker 8: with really good teams. It's also a testament to how
Speaker 8: great Josh has played and how much his performance has
Speaker 8: really masked some of the I guess, the youth in
Speaker 8: their team that's developing, and also the injuries they've dealt with.
Speaker 2: Should he win the MVP? Will he win the MVP?
Speaker 3: I think he should.
Speaker 6: Yes.
Speaker 8: I think that there's a ton of guys capable of
Speaker 8: making the case for it.
Speaker 3: There's probably three or four that are going to get
Speaker 3: a heavy amount of the votes.
Speaker 8: I think that Offensive Player of the Year is a
Speaker 8: very statistical generated award. MVP has to be a visually
Speaker 8: justified or visually dependent award. You have to be able
Speaker 8: to watch what that person is doing with what he's
Speaker 8: given against what he's doing it against, and just evaluate,
Speaker 8: like how much you think that performance was necessary for
Speaker 8: that play to be successful, and then that obviously when
Speaker 8: to be successful.
Speaker 3: So I think he will. I think he should.
Speaker 8: I've said this for a couple of weeks now, Dan,
Speaker 8: if you want to vote for Lamar, that's one thousand
Speaker 8: percent justified. If you wanted to vote for Saquon if
Speaker 8: he was going to break the record, because I think
Speaker 8: it was going to be more realistic if he.
Speaker 3: Did, thousand percent justified. I've said it last week.
Speaker 8: If Joe Burrow somehow drags the Bengals to the playoffs,
Speaker 8: it's going to be hard not to vote for him.
Speaker 8: So there is the reality that it is a very
Speaker 8: difficult MVP Award vote this year. But I do think
Speaker 8: that because of all the things that I just mentioned,
Speaker 8: Josh is probably the one that I lean towards.
Speaker 2: Yes, Sam Darnold is a pro bowler. Patrick Mahomes is not.
Speaker 8: Who would have thought? Who would have thought? You know,
Speaker 8: everyone's making a big stink about that. I think if
Speaker 8: you asked Patrick in early November, late October was he
Speaker 8: playing good footballer to his standard?
Speaker 3: He would have said no, has.
Speaker 8: He probably had the most challenging road this year when
Speaker 8: it comes to everything that's been thrown at them, losing
Speaker 8: for she Rice, and you know, the overhaul of their
Speaker 8: offensive receiving unit and the offensive line specifically left tackling
Speaker 8: right tackle playing so poorly.
Speaker 3: Yes, now he's played much more to his.
Speaker 8: Style over the last six or seven weeks, and he's
Speaker 8: he's one of those guys that could be in the
Speaker 8: MVP conversation if we're just being candid about the MVP
Speaker 8: award and the reality of it. But you know, he
Speaker 8: didn't play his best to start the season. And Baker's
Speaker 8: been absolutely sensational this year. So I don't have a massive,
Speaker 8: massive issue with it.
Speaker 2: Okay, but Minnesota has an issue here, a good issue
Speaker 2: here with keeping Sam. And then you have JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 2: I'll let you be the GM here in Minnesota.
Speaker 8: Yeah, a month ago, I would have said, no, you know,
Speaker 8: we're gonna move on from Sam. I just a ten
Speaker 8: or eleven months removed from not wanting to pay Kirk
Speaker 8: Cousins a certain amount of dollars.
Speaker 3: I don't want to change that philosophy. We really like JJ.
Speaker 3: We liked him coming out. He was really showing well
Speaker 3: in the preseason.
Speaker 8: But I do think what's happened over the past couple
Speaker 8: of weeks is really hard to put value on how
Speaker 8: a team feels about a guy, how a locker room
Speaker 8: feels about a player, a leader. And you know, if
Speaker 8: you have that guy that's that you know now can
Speaker 8: play at a really high level and you have now
Speaker 8: the impact that is really cool to put your finger
Speaker 8: on in your locker room. You can see it, though,
Speaker 8: I think you got to have a conversation of keeping
Speaker 8: them now. Is there a certain number you don't want
Speaker 8: to get to maybe and we all know that if
Speaker 8: you give it to their quarterback, the roster becomes lesser.
Speaker 3: But I do think it's a conversation.
Speaker 2: Uh, we haven't had a lot of conversation or it
Speaker 2: doesn't feel like there's a national narrative with defensive player
Speaker 2: of the Year. And I was wondering, tough one this year.
Speaker 2: Can Patrick certain of the Broncos steal this.
Speaker 3: No question?
Speaker 8: I mean, he's the best player at his position on
Speaker 8: a top three defense in the NFL, you know, and
Speaker 8: you know it will matter, it will matter if they
Speaker 8: get in that that just will to voters. You know,
Speaker 8: it's I do think that there is something too hard
Speaker 8: to vote for guys at those awards if the team
Speaker 8: is not in the playoffs. So that that's another reason
Speaker 8: why Denver's game is such a big deal. You know,
Speaker 8: you have to have his name very much so near
Speaker 8: the top of your list. You probably have Miles Garrett
Speaker 8: near the top of your list and Zach Bond near
Speaker 8: the top of your list. Maybe Jalen Carter I would
Speaker 8: throw in Kyle Hamilton every If you remember not seven
Speaker 8: eight weeks in this season, the Ravens defense was terrible.
Speaker 8: I mean they were really bad, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 8: there was one change. Simply put, they moved Kyle Hamilton
Speaker 8: back to safety, and they've moved their best player further
Speaker 8: from the ball and it's made their defense one of
Speaker 8: the best in the NFL. And if you ask anybody
Speaker 8: in that building, they say he saved their season. And
Speaker 8: I think for a team that is going to be,
Speaker 8: you know, likely a top three seed and a defense
Speaker 8: that is playing as good as anybody's in the NFL,
Speaker 8: to have people say that that move and that player
Speaker 8: saved their season, you've got to make sure that his
Speaker 8: name is.
Speaker 3: Very much so in that conversation.
Speaker 2: What do people talk to you about when they see you,
Speaker 2: Like you're on an Amtrak train going, you know, to Pennsylvania.
Speaker 8: Most people that like come up to me say like
Speaker 8: one of three things. Number One, I love how much
Speaker 8: you and steven A argue, So that's a huge thing.
Speaker 3: He's They're like, keep giving it to steven A. Don't
Speaker 3: let him. Don't let him say that to you too.
Speaker 8: They say, man, love love your show, or love your
Speaker 8: work and this and that, which I'm super grateful. Four
Speaker 8: or three though, bring up like, hey, that really wasn't
Speaker 8: a fart on McAfee's show, was it. So those are
Speaker 8: like the three most most prevalent things.
Speaker 2: So you have really strange eating habits. They're not bringing
Speaker 2: up stepping out of the end zone anymore.
Speaker 3: Not much.
Speaker 8: It really doesn't happen that now, mainly because I've probably
Speaker 8: had a couple more embarrassing things and since then. But no,
Speaker 8: the stopping the running out of the end zone has
Speaker 8: not come up often here and there, but not nearly
Speaker 8: as much as it did, say, two or three years ago.
Speaker 2: I'm happy for you because it felt like it growth. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And you know, the first thing I always think of
Speaker 2: is that you cheated on your forty yard dash, that
Speaker 2: you had a like a thirty eight yard dash to
Speaker 2: improve your time. If you don't cheat on your forty
Speaker 2: yard dash, are you in this position at.
Speaker 3: Esn Though not at all, No, not at all.
Speaker 2: So it's a great lesson for the kids out there.
Speaker 2: If scounces are coming over, how about you measure out
Speaker 2: thirty eight yards with the cones and then you have
Speaker 2: a better forty yard dash time.
Speaker 8: Dan, I think it's a lesson of whatever it takes. Man, Like, listen,
Speaker 8: whatever it takes. At some point we got we gotta
Speaker 8: go meet our creator and we got to, you know,
Speaker 8: have that moment of I did this and that.
Speaker 3: But it's whatever it takes.
Speaker 8: It's funny, dude, because on New Year's Eve, I'm not
Speaker 8: a big New Year's person, but New Year's Eve, my
Speaker 8: wife is. Our boys just turned thirteen on December twenty eighth.
Speaker 8: They have triplet boys and so three and our nine
Speaker 8: year old daughter or so. For years now, we've never
Speaker 8: been the big party family, but she always does like
Speaker 8: a game night with them, and on every hour leading
Speaker 8: up to New Year she does this game. And so
Speaker 8: as they've gotten older, the games have evolved, and so
Speaker 8: we were with some friends this past time and she
Speaker 8: lined up like eight solo cups and we had.
Speaker 3: To throw ping pong balls or ping.
Speaker 8: Pong balls in today cups, and the teams have two
Speaker 8: in the first team to win was like the winner.
Speaker 3: And I played me and my son.
Speaker 8: Against two of his buddies, and these freaking kids were
Speaker 8: cheating left and right, and I was calling them out, like,
Speaker 8: you guys are freaking standing ahide the line and you're
Speaker 8: cheating or you're only supposed to.
Speaker 3: Have one ball in your hand.
Speaker 8: And so it's funny that you bring that up because
Speaker 8: they were like winning, and I'm like, you guys are
Speaker 8: freaking cheating.
Speaker 2: Dude, Yeah, but you weren't drinking. This is usually what
Speaker 2: you do with just waterah yeah, just water. Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It sounds like a crazy time and at the that
Speaker 2: is wild. Yeah. Well, have fun there with Baltimore and
Speaker 2: it was great to talk to you. Thanks for making
Speaker 2: time and your travel there. We appreciated his.
Speaker 3: Course of course, boy can see man.
Speaker 2: That's Dan Orlovsky.
Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2: He's Mike goli co host of Gojo and Golick on
Speaker 2: DraftKings Network and of course former stalwart with the mother Ship.
Speaker 2: Joining us on the program, Big Mike, Sam, Sam Darnold.
Speaker 2: Let's start with Sam Darnold. Listen, I'm back Claire of
Speaker 2: the Year.
Speaker 6: I am.
Speaker 9: I'm calling the Detroit Minnesota game for Westwood One Sunday,
Speaker 9: and the first thing I'm gonna do when I go
Speaker 9: on the field before the game is apologized to Sam
Speaker 9: because a few weeks ago I had talked on my
Speaker 9: son and I show that you know, is he going
Speaker 9: to fall to the you know level he had been
Speaker 9: or is he going to keep going? I was kind
Speaker 9: of questioning it, and he's been nothing but money. He
Speaker 9: has been absolute money. But no, he's not winning Comeback
Speaker 9: Player of the Year. That that that's for illness. That's
Speaker 9: for injury. That should be stated. I know there's the
Speaker 9: other part that you just mentioned in the in the rules,
Speaker 9: but I think comeback player is for an injury or
Speaker 9: an illness.
Speaker 2: What do you do if you're the Vikings. I don't
Speaker 2: know if you bring this up during the broadcast, but
Speaker 2: you know there are they in a good situation because
Speaker 2: you have this decision that you might have to make
Speaker 2: with Darnold and JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, it's a it's a great situation.
Speaker 9: I mean, listen, we've seen Green Bay do it twice
Speaker 9: where they drafted a guy high and he sat for
Speaker 9: three or so years, and in Aaron Rodgers and Jordan
Speaker 9: love So and JJ's coming off of a need. Listen,
Speaker 9: you you got to strike while the iron's hot. Now
Speaker 9: the issue will be what deals does he get offered
Speaker 9: from other teams? Are they huge money deals? Can you
Speaker 9: get away with a Baker Mayfield type of deal for
Speaker 9: Sam a three year, one hundred million, fifty MILLI guaranteed
Speaker 9: it would probably be more than that instead of a
Speaker 9: fifty million dollar year, which I'm not sure someone will give,
Speaker 9: but they might get close to that, thinking that that
Speaker 9: this guy has kind of recaptured that that first round thought.
Speaker 9: But if I'm Minnesota, I definitely try and hang on
Speaker 9: to him and I run it to its course. I mean,
Speaker 9: if JJ sits, he sits. I mean, you have a
Speaker 9: proven guy, a guy who's proving it on the field,
Speaker 9: as opposed to an unproven rookie who's coming off of
Speaker 9: the knee.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would probably franchise him. And I agree with you.
Speaker 2: We brought this up years ago that the agents had
Speaker 2: to come up with a middle ground here. It was
Speaker 2: not we got to get sixty million or fifty five
Speaker 2: million like you had to be smart, and Baker Mayfield's
Speaker 2: agent was smart. You're getting paid, you're playing well, you're
Speaker 2: going to be in the playoffs. He'll get commercial endorsement
Speaker 2: like it. I just don't want Sam to price himself
Speaker 2: out of a great situation that he has with the Vikings.
Speaker 9: I think, what Sam, and it seems Sam's a smart person.
Speaker 9: He also realizes what he has with Minnesota and if
Speaker 9: you get offered now again there's a lot of money
Speaker 9: and a little money depending on your preference of what
Speaker 9: you get offered.
Speaker 6: But what he has with Kevin O'Connell, make no mistake
Speaker 6: about it.
Speaker 9: Kevin O'Connell call him plays and the offense that he
Speaker 9: has is definitely helping to his success. While he's playing great,
Speaker 9: there are other factors involved and Kevin O'Connell is one
Speaker 9: of them. So you have to think, do I go
Speaker 9: to take more money and go to a lesser coach
Speaker 9: and lesser offense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this isn't a quarterback heavy draft as well,
Speaker 2: so you know, I mean, this is the right place
Speaker 2: at the right time. Unless Sam Donald. If they would
Speaker 2: lose Sunday night and they go on the road and
Speaker 2: they play Tampa and they bow out or play the
Speaker 2: Rams and bow out, I wonder if that would have
Speaker 2: any impact on Sam Donald's future.
Speaker 9: Well, I think it'll be on how Sam plays. Right
Speaker 9: right now, the offense is humming the defense, while the
Speaker 9: defense is is fourth worse than giving up pass yards,
Speaker 9: are fourth best in giving up points, and that's the
Speaker 9: most important thing, how many points that you give up.
Speaker 9: So I think it would depend on how he plays,
Speaker 9: even if they were to bow out early.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the Lions. The pressure on the Lions
Speaker 2: to win, to be the number one seed, to get
Speaker 2: a bye week and have home field advantage and the
Speaker 2: better chance to extend your season and then get some
Speaker 2: of these injured players back. When you're doing a game,
Speaker 2: like can you ask these questions of Dan Campbell or
Speaker 2: somebody with the Lions when you're doing the broadcast where
Speaker 2: they'll give you a little more information.
Speaker 9: Sure you could ask, but they're not really going to
Speaker 9: give quite honestly, I mean, they're going to talk around it,
Speaker 9: and I think one of the most important players. Quite honestly,
Speaker 9: I'm concerned more for the defenses, especially Detroit's defense in
Speaker 9: these games. Both these offenses are high profile offenses, but
Speaker 9: the defense is the injuries Detroit has had. Now they
Speaker 9: have alexanders along the linebacker broke his forum, missed the
Speaker 9: last six games. He's in the twenty one day window
Speaker 9: to come back, and he's practicing this week. But the
Speaker 9: thought is Dan Campbell said it was an eight week
Speaker 9: injury and it'll be seven weeks this Sunday. So do
Speaker 9: you bring him back early because they need him and
Speaker 9: especially in defensive pass coverage, they need him.
Speaker 6: But do you risk him.
Speaker 9: Re injuring it and being out for the playoffs or
Speaker 9: just trying to get the job done without him and
Speaker 9: still get the number one seed. But if you get
Speaker 9: the number five seed, at least you're still in the
Speaker 9: playoffs and he has another week to rest his forum.
Speaker 6: Those are kind of the decisions that they have to make.
Speaker 2: He's My Golick, co host of Gojo and Golick on
Speaker 2: DraftKings Network. You're Notre Dame fighting Irish Last night let's
Speaker 2: look at like a bigger picture here with the nil
Speaker 2: transfer portal where Georgia wasn't Georgia like they had been before.
Speaker 2: Alabama is not Alabama, Clemson is not Clemson. And I
Speaker 2: don't know if this is a one off, Mike, or
Speaker 2: is it because maybe the playing field is leveling and
Speaker 2: talent is dispersed and you're not stockpiling three running backs
Speaker 2: at Georgia or you know, five defensive linemen you know
Speaker 2: at Alabama. Is this a one off? Or do you
Speaker 2: think we're peeking into the future.
Speaker 9: No, I think we're peeking into the future for guys
Speaker 9: that are sitting. I mean, Gunner stocked in the backup
Speaker 9: quarterback is a rarity. He's with the program for three years,
Speaker 9: right and kind of was waiting his turn. Normally you
Speaker 9: don't see that, you see a guy transfer. So no,
Speaker 9: I think this is kind of the new era of
Speaker 9: college football. We saw the portal opened a few Mondays
Speaker 9: ago and within a week there was over two thousand
Speaker 9: players in the portal. So this is the new college football.
Speaker 9: It's just a matter how much you want to use it.
Speaker 9: Like Dabos Sweeney has not used it a lot. Marcus
Speaker 9: Freeman said, Notre Dame will always minor in transfers.
Speaker 6: They won't major in.
Speaker 9: Transfers like they're already talking about next year. They won't
Speaker 9: go to a transfer quarterback. They had Sam Hartman now
Speaker 9: Riley Leonard, but now they'll use one of their younger quarterbacks.
Speaker 9: At least that's what they said. We'll see if they
Speaker 9: stay with it. But overall, I do think we had
Speaker 9: forty three different starting quarterbacks in FBS through the portal
Speaker 9: last year and I think that's going to continue.
Speaker 2: See Notre Dame has figured it out. Though they bring
Speaker 2: in Sam Hartman, they bring in Riley Leonard. That seems
Speaker 2: to be the round to go instead of saying, now
Speaker 2: I'm going to raise an eighteen year old here.
Speaker 6: It does. But I think they have CJ.
Speaker 9: Carr who they really really like, and it seems like
Speaker 9: they're going to give him a chance.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 9: That's not to say if there's a quarterback that they
Speaker 9: think fits their system that pops up in the portal
Speaker 9: that they won't still go for because you know what,
Speaker 9: the way it is now with the portal, you're.
Speaker 6: Playing year to year, you're not playing for three years
Speaker 6: down the road.
Speaker 2: Is Notre Dame likable.
Speaker 9: Well, I think I think Marcus Freeman is likable, and
Speaker 9: I think that makes Notre Dame likable. He's he's the
Speaker 9: face of the program. Brian Kelly was this kind of
Speaker 9: this gruff guy who changed kind of his attitude halfway
Speaker 9: through when when people were tired of him turning purple
Speaker 9: on the sideline and yelling and it seemed like he
Speaker 9: was always yelling or mad. And Marcus Freeman is young,
Speaker 9: he's good looking, he's a great recruiter. Players love him,
Speaker 9: so I think people start to like because there's a listen.
Speaker 9: There's always people that are gonna hate Notre Dame. But
Speaker 9: I do think that he brings up the the the rating,
Speaker 9: the Q ratings on Notre Dame because of Marcus Freeman.
Speaker 2: But the fan base. When Brian Kelly left because he
Speaker 2: wanted to try to win national titles at LSU, was
Speaker 2: was there an outcry of you know, how dare you
Speaker 2: leave Notre They.
Speaker 9: Were they were surprised that a coach left Notre Dame,
Speaker 9: because normal a coach would leave Notre Dame by retiring
Speaker 9: or being fired, never left voluntarily, So I think they
Speaker 9: were they didn't really miss a beat, They didn't really
Speaker 9: miss Brian Kelly, even though Brian Kelly's the winningest coach
Speaker 9: in Notre Dame history. You know, beat out Newt Rockney.
Speaker 9: I mean, so that's something. There's something to be said
Speaker 9: for that. But no, they they really didn't. Didn't really
Speaker 9: bat an eye that he left. They were a little
Speaker 9: disgruntled that he chose to leave, and now it's kind
Speaker 9: of biting him. I mean, he left thinking he'd had
Speaker 9: better opportunity at LSU and here's a Notre.
Speaker 6: Dame in the semi. So yeah, there wasn't there wasn't
Speaker 6: too much. Too much. Oh no, what are we going
Speaker 6: to do now when he left?
Speaker 2: Who's the best team left in the final four? Oh?
Speaker 6: I mean the way Ohio State's playing.
Speaker 9: If Ohio State plays the way they played against Tennessee,
Speaker 9: uh and Oregon, I don't know who's going to beat them.
Speaker 2: I mean it makes you go back to the Michigan game, like,
Speaker 2: how do you get that's coaching? To me? That your
Speaker 2: game plan you can accidentally score three touchdowns with that offense?
Speaker 6: It is stunning.
Speaker 9: Now, Michigan always has a very very tough defense, I'll
Speaker 9: give them that, but they don't really have an offense
Speaker 9: they rely on the running game so much. That was
Speaker 9: a stunning, stunning loss and really put Ryan Day's head
Speaker 9: on the chopping block. But he is more than making
Speaker 9: up for it. I mean, they're not just winning, they're
Speaker 9: blowing teams out. They're so explosive on offense, they're so
Speaker 9: stifling on defense. So they're playing the best right now.
Speaker 9: I think it'll be Notre Dame and Ohio State in
Speaker 9: the title game, which would be interesting for Marcus Freeman
Speaker 9: since that's where he went to school.
Speaker 2: Yeah, is Ryan Days? Is he still on the hot
Speaker 2: seat if he loses this game?
Speaker 8: Man?
Speaker 9: Dan, That is a great question because it's weighed so heavily.
Speaker 9: Losing to Michigan. Then it's like, Okay, you lost to Michigan,
Speaker 9: but hey, we'll take a national title overbeating over losing
Speaker 9: to Michigan. But if you fall short of that, I
Speaker 9: think he's safe. I think the two blowout wins saved
Speaker 9: his job. If it truly it was in the If
Speaker 9: he had lost the first game, I think there certainly
Speaker 9: would have been some some cries for it.
Speaker 6: But I do think he's gonna be fine.
Speaker 2: But if we didn't have this expanded playoff format, does
Speaker 2: Ryan Day. Is he still coaching Ohio State?
Speaker 9: Probably not because they don't make the Final four, right, Yeah,
Speaker 9: And I would if they don't. If they didn't make
Speaker 9: the Final four and lost to Michigan for a fourth
Speaker 9: straight year, I would say he'd be gone because so
Speaker 9: much is put on that. But now that it is
Speaker 9: expanded and he has a chance to make up for
Speaker 9: which he is in spades, I think it'll save his job.
Speaker 2: Good to chat with you again. Thank you, Mike, you
Speaker 2: got it. Damn it's big Mike Goldie