Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hello, Welcome to another edition of Nerdificent. I
Speaker 1: am one half of your host, Danny Fernandez, and the
Speaker 1: other half is gone tonight because it is his birthday,
Speaker 1: or at least it'll be his birthday. No, it'll be
Speaker 1: his past birthday. I can't do time. Whenever you listen
Speaker 1: to this, it will be a week from his birthday. Um,
Speaker 1: but hopefully everyone gave if he a lot of love.
Speaker 1: He did post a huge thirst trap. If you didn't
Speaker 1: see it, it is still probably up on all of
Speaker 1: his social media pages. You can't miss it. It literally
Speaker 1: kept popping up into my timeline multiple times. But um,
Speaker 1: here at Nerdificent, we are pro thirst trap a thousand percent.
Speaker 1: I am joined today by the owner of the Perky
Speaker 1: Nerd Comic book shop, a place that I love, a
Speaker 1: place that I love to go to shop at, a
Speaker 1: place that has arch shows that really is just such
Speaker 1: a huge part of the community that if he and
Speaker 1: I actually we got to film a piece that was
Speaker 1: um that was funded by Marvel there at the Perky
Speaker 1: Nerd um with a lot of actors and writers of color,
Speaker 1: and that is Tiffany Melius. Hi Did I say that right? Yes? Okay,
Speaker 1: perfect Melius. Sometimes I don't even say right you are
Speaker 1: you are covered head to toe and Captain Marvel because
Speaker 1: we're talking about Captain Marvel. I love all this stuff
Speaker 1: that you have and the comic books that you brought.
Speaker 1: I was like, should I bring a reference? I don't know?
Speaker 1: You know? Do you know Hector Navarro? I feel like
Speaker 1: you do. You probably have met him. He's at d
Speaker 1: C Daily and I think he's done stuff over at
Speaker 1: the Perky Nerd. Um. But he will bring his comics too,
Speaker 1: and he is known as like a walking encyclopedia of knowledge,
Speaker 1: so he doesn't technically ever look have to like actually
Speaker 1: look at him. But when he wants to really prove
Speaker 1: a point, he knows exactly in his comics where that is. Yeah, So, um,
Speaker 1: what what I want to talk about the Perky Nerd? Like?
Speaker 1: How did you? Is this the first comic book shop
Speaker 1: that you've opened? Yes? I like, how maybe there's more?
Speaker 1: I wish there was? Um, yeah, this is the first
Speaker 1: one ever of its kind. The Perky Nerd actually the
Speaker 1: name itself. We wanted to open up a cat cafe.
Speaker 1: Which is funny because all comic book characters I seem
Speaker 1: to pick out have a cat yeah. So, uh, but
Speaker 1: having cats and and the whole thing was too much
Speaker 1: money up front. It's a huge investment. So we decided
Speaker 1: to do a comic bookshop that sells cold brew coffee
Speaker 1: and and then does like art shows. To get the community.
Speaker 1: We did stand up Um, yes, yeah, you have stand
Speaker 1: up comedy shows there. Well, we used to. Um, I'd
Speaker 1: love to do more, I know, meltdown since they've gone
Speaker 1: away then, I don't know where all those people went.
Speaker 1: But we kind of took on a lot more gaming
Speaker 1: in the last year. I don't know if you're familiar
Speaker 1: with Legion yet. Uh. Star Wars like miniatures game, and
Speaker 1: it came out last year and it kind of took
Speaker 1: over our whole shop. So uh, that's we've and then
Speaker 1: key Forged by the Magic Guys that's taken over, and
Speaker 1: so we're kind of exploring the new gaming realm. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like I mean, I don't know a lot
Speaker 1: of other and I should, but I will look this up.
Speaker 1: But a lot of other female run comic bookshops in
Speaker 1: the city. I mean, what was that like to even
Speaker 1: to like this? Has this been a dream of yours? Like,
Speaker 1: how do you even go about doing that? Like, how
Speaker 1: do you go about being like, I'm going to open
Speaker 1: up a comic bookshop. I think you just do it
Speaker 1: and don't think about it. For for us, it kind
Speaker 1: of was like December, we went to a comic bookshop
Speaker 1: by Chicago, Wisconsin, AIA. It was a woman owned one,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, that's so cool, Like it
Speaker 1: stuck out to me as something that I was I
Speaker 1: was like, wow, women canon a comic bookshop. And then
Speaker 1: I looked it up and there's another girl in Philadelphia
Speaker 1: that has a coffee comic bookshop and she has actually
Speaker 1: been on the cover of a Marvel comic recently. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then there's another one in Seattle, I think, um,
Speaker 1: and there's just there's a handful of them all over
Speaker 1: the US. Um. But they're not that many. And I
Speaker 1: want to say, because when we did first open, a
Speaker 1: lot of people were like, that can't be the like
Speaker 1: the first women owned I And I'm not the first
Speaker 1: woman owned comic bookshop. But there is less than like
Speaker 1: ten of them, and I think people like challenge that
Speaker 1: because they're like, I've seen women in comic bookshops. I'm like,
Speaker 1: correction owned by a woman, not just people working in
Speaker 1: the other women. Um, but like actually owned by a
Speaker 1: woman operating business. Yeah. So and you employ a lot
Speaker 1: of women there. I know, I see them all the time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we have a lot of women. We have the Perky
Speaker 1: Bitches Comic book Club. Yeah, and you had a you
Speaker 1: had like a remember maybe it was just during Halloween,
Speaker 1: but I remember you had like a Witches. Yeah. We
Speaker 1: do the Witches Brunch. A lot of women like art
Speaker 1: shows and stuff like that. We had the marveloust Ladies
Speaker 1: that brunch. It was like a mash up Marvel Ladies
Speaker 1: as Holly go lightly. Um. That was just a personal
Speaker 1: thing I wanted to do because I I like like
Speaker 1: breakfast at Tiffany's the concept and like Tiffany's for obvious reasons. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you had a Breakfast at Tiffany I actually own it,
Speaker 1: and so does Danielle Radford, who um was in our
Speaker 1: Marvel Our Black Panther Marvel piece and she was on
Speaker 1: our Buffy the Vampire Slayer episode. But I bought you
Speaker 1: have a you carried a print. It was this gorgeous
Speaker 1: print of Surery in the Breakfast at Tiffany's. Like she
Speaker 1: looks like Audrey Hepburn and she has a little cat
Speaker 1: with her um and its Surey from black Panthers. So
Speaker 1: I have that framed in my living room. Oh nice, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I've gotten several pieces of art there. You have. You
Speaker 1: really are an open um place where artists can apply
Speaker 1: to have their work shown. Like you have tons of
Speaker 1: different independent artists on your walls. You have tons of print.
Speaker 1: I think it's like the best gift. I love going
Speaker 1: there and giving it as a gift to people because
Speaker 1: you know, you can get like a print for like
Speaker 1: ten or fifteen bucks and it's like super cool to
Speaker 1: have like a gorgeous wonder Woman or the Flash um,
Speaker 1: and they'll have mashups. What'll be like the Simpsons in
Speaker 1: the Flash or something like that. So yeah, that's my
Speaker 1: favorite part about the art shows is seeing what people
Speaker 1: are going to do with the theme that we put
Speaker 1: out there. Um. I get a lot of artists that
Speaker 1: just approached and say, how can I get in the gallery? Well,
Speaker 1: you can start up by being in the art shows,
Speaker 1: which are always themed. I don't just do like this
Speaker 1: is an art show. Um. So uh. On March sewond
Speaker 1: is when our Captain Marvel Art show will be up
Speaker 1: in the gallery and it will be up the whole
Speaker 1: month of March. Yes, so if you are in because
Speaker 1: the Perky Nerd is in Burbank um, so if you
Speaker 1: are in the l A area, please check it out
Speaker 1: and you can check out there all of their Captain
Speaker 1: Marvel princes that they will have up in original artes. Yeah. Amazing.
Speaker 1: So speaking of Captain Marvel, when I asked, I think
Speaker 1: I asked on Facebook, um if there were anyone that
Speaker 1: were experts in Captain Marvel. Remember Eric Barnes, who I
Speaker 1: believe was on our Teenage Mutant and Turtle episode immediately
Speaker 1: tagged you and I was like, oh, yes, she would
Speaker 1: be perfect. I was like, yes, I remember, But how
Speaker 1: did you get into Captain Marvel? So I stumbled upon
Speaker 1: her in two thousand and six, I think she it
Speaker 1: was like a fifty two book or a fifty book
Speaker 1: run of Ms. Marvel. Carol Danver's in her black leotard.
Speaker 1: Um and my husband was just looking for some amazing
Speaker 1: spider man to fill in his holes. And I was like,
Speaker 1: oh good, we're where are we because we were just
Speaker 1: doing that thing where you just map out a bunch
Speaker 1: of comic bookshops and just go um. And he was
Speaker 1: like you should choose one, probably like one of those
Speaker 1: things like you should get into nerdy things. And I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, uh And I saw this like you know,
Speaker 1: badass Lady on the front of a cover, and I
Speaker 1: got it. And then I got all the other issues
Speaker 1: and then I became really enthralled into this character and
Speaker 1: I kept reading. And then he gave me all of
Speaker 1: the Miss Marvel from the seventies, the comic books he
Speaker 1: found like a whole collection of them on eBay and
Speaker 1: that I think that was like my birthday present or something.
Speaker 1: Do you still have those? Yeah? I have. I have
Speaker 1: my long boxes of all all my singles of Captain Marvel,
Speaker 1: Miss Marvel, the seventies Miss Marvel. Um. And then it
Speaker 1: just kept going into like Black Widow and looking for
Speaker 1: all of those things. Um. But yeah, I love Carol Danvers.
Speaker 1: She I just I love She's so flawed. Um. And
Speaker 1: I came to l A for acting. So in two
Speaker 1: thousand and six, I was, you know, fresh here and
Speaker 1: I was like, we need to make a movie and
Speaker 1: I want to be her. You were already on the band. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you you were pitching this back in oh six. You know,
Speaker 1: we're just now getting it in right, and that's so crazy.
Speaker 1: I feel like she hasn't really been on the bigger radar,
Speaker 1: like obviously for Marvel nerds and people that you know
Speaker 1: have been following her, she has been, but I don't
Speaker 1: think she's really been on the radar until the last
Speaker 1: like five ish years. I would say I've noticed more. Um,
Speaker 1: and definitely the last two years, like when they announced
Speaker 1: that she was getting her own film, yes, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: because they announced like a long time ago. I feel like,
Speaker 1: and now it's finally here. I feel like they know
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff, you know, like by the time
Speaker 1: we hear stuf Off, they've already gone into production. They
Speaker 1: might even be done with production sometimes by the time
Speaker 1: that it gets out into the Publicum. But Marvel is
Speaker 1: definitely already capped out, like mapped out exactly what they
Speaker 1: were gonna do. Um. I'm really excited. I think it's
Speaker 1: crazy how close Because she comes out so Captain Marvel
Speaker 1: drops march An haste week Yeah, it'll be this weekend,
Speaker 1: drops this weekend, and Infinity War comes out in a role,
Speaker 1: so I really don't get a lot of time. And
Speaker 1: in between that, I believe Shazam I might be which
Speaker 1: is interesting, which is interesting because for people that don't know,
Speaker 1: Shazam and Captain Marvel are kind of related. Um, do
Speaker 1: you do you want to explain that to people of
Speaker 1: how that happened the Captain Marvel they're originally from? Like,
Speaker 1: because I get a lot of people in the shop
Speaker 1: that are like, did you know that Kept Marvel is
Speaker 1: really from d C? No, you are you telling me that?
Speaker 1: You a comic bookshop owner get people that challenge you
Speaker 1: about your knowledge. I mean it happens all the time,
Speaker 1: and I just I mean my personality is just you're
Speaker 1: very friendly. I'm just like, oh, yeah, that's really cool. Huh.
Speaker 1: You are much kinder than I am, Tiffany, You're very
Speaker 1: You're very friendly. Yes, you're very which is great because
Speaker 1: you have a business. And so I guess if you
Speaker 1: if you said what you really wanted to to everybody,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have any customers. I mean I would still go,
Speaker 1: I would still go. But Okay, yes, Kittie, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I just I want yes, of course, you owning a
Speaker 1: comic bookshop get challenged about your knowledge of comics. But yes, um,
Speaker 1: so yes, she'sam Sasam. Yeah. So originally the character she'sam
Speaker 1: that we know that's going to be in the movie.
Speaker 1: Um is not being called Captain Marvel because Captain Marvel
Speaker 1: is Captain Marvel. Um. But they did own that back,
Speaker 1: you know first, and then there was like a whole
Speaker 1: lawsuit and now they have to make a captain like
Speaker 1: Marvel has to make a Captain Marvel us that whatever
Speaker 1: you call it monarch or whatever every two years, once
Speaker 1: every two something, otherwise they'll lose it. It's kind of
Speaker 1: it's like anything else, kind of like with like ex trademark,
Speaker 1: you know, stuff like that, they have to use it.
Speaker 1: Otherwise it just drops off and it's over and it's
Speaker 1: up for grabs for uh people to use it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I wanted to say, shazam is so Billy Batson uh
Speaker 1: so Uh, it's essentially the word that he says when
Speaker 1: he's transforming. He says shazam, and so we will see that, yeah,
Speaker 1: in the film that's coming out. But that's essentially what
Speaker 1: they ended up just doing is they were like, oh,
Speaker 1: let's just take this word and we'll just make it
Speaker 1: a the the dude, the character. Um. But I'm really
Speaker 1: curious to if they call him Captain Marvel in the movie.
Speaker 1: There's no you think that they're going to do that.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but like the people are really against
Speaker 1: like they're like, Shazam is not his name, Shazam is
Speaker 1: the word that changes him into Captain Marvel. Gosh, those
Speaker 1: people don't sound fun. Um, let's let's talk officially what
Speaker 1: Captain Marvel. So. Captain Marvel is um the name of
Speaker 1: several fictional superheroes appearing in Marvel comics. Like you said,
Speaker 1: it was following a trial in which DC Comics sued
Speaker 1: Fawcett Comics for a breach of copyright, claiming Faucets Captain
Speaker 1: Marvel was too similar to Superman. The latter stop publishing
Speaker 1: Captain Marvel, and in the late sixties, Marvel gained the
Speaker 1: trademark Captain Marvel, which makes sense that it would go
Speaker 1: to them with their with their first series, And what
Speaker 1: Tiffany was saying is that to retain their trademark, Marvel
Speaker 1: has to publish a Captain Marvel title at least once
Speaker 1: every two years, leading to her ongoing series limited series
Speaker 1: in one shots, essentially in order to hang on to that.
Speaker 1: But originally the name was Marvel and that character was
Speaker 1: created by Stanley and Gene Colin and first appeared in
Speaker 1: Marvel Superheroes number twelve in December of nineteen sixty seven.
Speaker 1: So essentially, the character was an alien military officer, Captain
Speaker 1: Marvel of the Cree Imperial Militia, which is like an
Speaker 1: alien army, who was then sent to observe the planet Earth.
Speaker 1: I love this because this is also what happens with
Speaker 1: Sayings and dragon Ball always have to relate it back
Speaker 1: to Darn, but that's essentially Sayings um Goku was like
Speaker 1: sent to Earth to take over, but then ended up
Speaker 1: helping us. So Captain Marvel eventually also allies himself with Earth.
Speaker 1: The Cree Empire brands him as a trader, and then
Speaker 1: that leads to lots of fighting, lots of fighting. Have
Speaker 1: you read the Margaret Stole the Latest The Life of
Speaker 1: Um Captain Marvel? Oh, because we just read it in
Speaker 1: the Perky Bitches, uh. And I'm really curious to see
Speaker 1: how much of it is going to be in the
Speaker 1: movie because the Kelly sud Conic run is the one
Speaker 1: that they're supposed to be taking from Um. But when
Speaker 1: you were just saying that about Marvel coming to Earth
Speaker 1: in that one, the Margaret Stole book, her mom comes
Speaker 1: to Earth from the Creed. Yeah, and they made a
Speaker 1: whole new storyline. Does she have a baby with a human? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And so it's funny because I love that. I was
Speaker 1: very into that. I did the map in my head
Speaker 1: and it was so much like Superman to me. I
Speaker 1: kept being this is really like Superman to point where
Speaker 1: her name is Mary l and Carol, that's so fast. Wait, okay,
Speaker 1: so that's when the latest thing that just came out
Speaker 1: before the one that just like started running, that's in
Speaker 1: it like it's second issue now. Um it came out
Speaker 1: because people were saying that they wanted to correct her origins. Um.
Speaker 1: Which if you were a brand new reader and you
Speaker 1: had just picked that up, you might be interested in it.
Speaker 1: But I do think it's very Superman storyline. Um. Which Now,
Speaker 1: now if that was the original storyline with Marvel the guy,
Speaker 1: it is, because I reading it, I was like, this
Speaker 1: is like Superman. So it's kind of funny that they
Speaker 1: would do that again now with Carol in a storyline
Speaker 1: it is. I mean I could see originally why they
Speaker 1: sued them, but now that they can't do anything, I
Speaker 1: guess they're like, well, we're just going to go back,
Speaker 1: and I mean, I know a lot of different franchises
Speaker 1: that have done that, and sometimes people are really interesting
Speaker 1: when you run across Puris, like they're really fascinated. I
Speaker 1: like Wonder Woman's origin story. I don't like when people
Speaker 1: mess around with her origin story, which has happened because
Speaker 1: she originally wasn't like there's somewhere her father is, you know,
Speaker 1: where she was folded from Clay and then other ones
Speaker 1: where it was like, oh no, her mom was like
Speaker 1: impregnated by Zeus um. But it was like through the
Speaker 1: power of Zeus or whatever that she was able to
Speaker 1: make this Clay. But like you know, in the original
Speaker 1: nineteen forties run, she came from Clay. Yeah, so I'm
Speaker 1: sure I might get I might get someone correcting me,
Speaker 1: but I have that original run at home, so at
Speaker 1: least what I can remember is that she didn't need Well.
Speaker 1: My least favorite is when her Paolita and whose Zeus
Speaker 1: is wife? Is it Athena and uh, I'm trying to remember,
Speaker 1: but anyways, it was basically them fighting. It was as
Speaker 1: a Rillo's Brian as a Rillo's Run. I think that
Speaker 1: was a New fifty two um with Wonder woman, and
Speaker 1: I have a computer right in front of me. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I should just google. But essentially they were fighting over Zeus.
Speaker 1: I don't know if yeah so, and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh no, there's two women fighting over a man. Why
Speaker 1: does this need to happen? Um? Why didn't no just
Speaker 1: go back to her other origin? Yeah? So moving on,
Speaker 1: She's had several incarnations And the one that you came
Speaker 1: onto in two thousand and six, you said she you
Speaker 1: knew her as Miss Marvel, Miss Marvel. Yeah, she back
Speaker 1: in two thousand and six was in the black leotard. Uh.
Speaker 1: And that that whole run is the run that I made. Well,
Speaker 1: I didn't make them. They willingly read it, uh like
Speaker 1: because now they're repackaging everything to be the ms Marvel
Speaker 1: Years of Captain Marvel. And there's like three volumes that
Speaker 1: we have in the shop. Um and you can see,
Speaker 1: like you know, because she was the leader of the Avengers,
Speaker 1: she had a lot of alcohol issues. Um. She was
Speaker 1: like in Civil War. UM. So she's like popped up
Speaker 1: a lot um. And that's where I got into her.
Speaker 1: I personally really love it, um because you know, when
Speaker 1: you first get into something, you're just like, I love this.
Speaker 1: I love it the way it is, yes, but then
Speaker 1: it changes and you it's like, no, no, why did
Speaker 1: they do that? But someone else could pick up that
Speaker 1: new thing, not knowing anything previously and be like this
Speaker 1: is amazing see the old stuff, and be like why
Speaker 1: why would they do that to her? So I'm coming
Speaker 1: from like the black leotard loving days. Uh. And then she,
Speaker 1: you know, got redone in two thousand and twelve as
Speaker 1: Captain Marvel Carol Danver's everyone knows, right, okay because before that, oh,
Speaker 1: it's like the seventh on the list of carrying the
Speaker 1: Captain Marvel. Yeah. Title, So let's go through this list.
Speaker 1: So the next one up after we have Marvel is
Speaker 1: Monica is at rambo Um and that was the second
Speaker 1: Captain Marvel was created by writer Roger Stern and artist
Speaker 1: John Ramda Jr. She first appeared in The Amazing Spider
Speaker 1: Man Annual number sixteen and nineteen eighty two. So here,
Speaker 1: I am just thinking that she's been around, you know, recently.
Speaker 1: I haven't read any Captain Marvel comics. I'm going to
Speaker 1: get on it. I read my my friend Sam Magg's
Speaker 1: actually wrote a book which I'll have to show you yeah, probably. Yeah,
Speaker 1: We're going to do a book signing with her. So great. Well,
Speaker 1: but um so it does have info about Captain Marvel,
Speaker 1: and it has info about all the women of Marvel
Speaker 1: in it. Uh And so that was when I was
Speaker 1: reading that, it made me want and of course this
Speaker 1: Brie Larson film has made me want to check it out.
Speaker 1: But I feel behind because we did. We did a
Speaker 1: Harley Quinn episode with Tara Strong, and when I was
Speaker 1: researching for that, I ran across and Harley Quinn. I'm
Speaker 1: very you know, I grew up watching Batman, the animated series,
Speaker 1: so I'm aware of her um but I ran across
Speaker 1: mad love that. Everyone was saying, like, you have to
Speaker 1: read this. It's like such an in depth look at
Speaker 1: her um in her relationship with the Joker and you know,
Speaker 1: her vulnerability and like kind of her mindset. So I
Speaker 1: bought it and I'm like, Okay, I need to do
Speaker 1: this first, then I'll get into my Captain Marvel comics
Speaker 1: have so many things that I'm behind on. Um Okay. So,
Speaker 1: Monica Rambo was a police lieutenant from New Orleans who
Speaker 1: possesses the power to transform herself into any form of energy.
Speaker 1: Her powers were briefly altered so that she cannot transform
Speaker 1: to energy but instead can generate a personal worsfield. Really
Speaker 1: interesting that they made her a police officer. This was
Speaker 1: something and a couple of other episodes that we have
Speaker 1: also talked about um during this time, like this era
Speaker 1: where it was very lethal weapon he like, you know,
Speaker 1: those like Cop Buddy Cop or like the cop films
Speaker 1: were really popular. Yeah, so it's really because they also
Speaker 1: did that we talked about in our Black Panther episode.
Speaker 1: They did it with Techala or at least with Black Panther.
Speaker 1: I forgot his name at the time, but they made
Speaker 1: him until a police officer think in the nineties. Huh. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And so what's really cool about that is that in
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to stay away from the trailers kind
Speaker 1: of after I've seen like the first initial ones, but
Speaker 1: if you stop it, you know, the wonderful world of
Speaker 1: DVR uh and people on the internet. Then they put
Speaker 1: it up that Monica and her in her airplane it
Speaker 1: says Photon on the side. So that's a total like
Speaker 1: nice little easter, a call out her being Photon in
Speaker 1: the comics. Oh yeah, I wouldn't, which is pretty rodin
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm going to need to take a
Speaker 1: box of tissues to the movie because I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: be like, oh my god, that's that's how I was
Speaker 1: with One Woman. Yeah, Wonder Woman's um No Man's Land
Speaker 1: scene got me every time, I know where every time
Speaker 1: I just wanted to And also I think like it
Speaker 1: was the music, It was so much about it, but
Speaker 1: just seeing her and kind of like her inability to
Speaker 1: understand why we're cowards, you know, she just she saw
Speaker 1: these you know, she saw these people dying and was like,
Speaker 1: I love that line. That's like what you do, what
Speaker 1: I do is not up to you. And Captain Marvel's
Speaker 1: is something similar. I feel in her trailer often, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna look at it, you know, I'm going to look
Speaker 1: it up. I'm gonna look it up right now because
Speaker 1: we're going to take a break and we are back
Speaker 1: still joined by Tiffany, the owner of the Perky nerd. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we were talking about that trailer. My favorite part of
Speaker 1: the trail of the Captain Marvel trailers when she punches
Speaker 1: out that old lady yeah, um also can you because
Speaker 1: I kind of I kind of like went over cree
Speaker 1: but they're essentially just an alien, right, is there anything
Speaker 1: special I guess about them? Oh gosh, yeah, so the Cree,
Speaker 1: which I kind of went over, but her alien species race.
Speaker 1: They've also been seen in Gardens of the Galaxy and
Speaker 1: in the movies and Guardians of the Galaxy, and they
Speaker 1: will be in Captain Marvel. So they also been seen
Speaker 1: in the Agents of Shield. So that's cool. I know
Speaker 1: people were really excited when they popped up in it.
Speaker 1: But okay, so the other the other Captain Marvel's for
Speaker 1: all of you Captain Marvel heads. So there's Jennie Vel,
Speaker 1: which was the third Captain Marvel who first appeared in
Speaker 1: Silver Surfer Annual number six using the code name of Legacy.
Speaker 1: So that character is genetically engineered son, So it's still
Speaker 1: a dude back then of Marvel and his lover um
Speaker 1: created from the late Marvel's cell samples and artificially aged
Speaker 1: to physical, if not emotional maturity. That's really fascinating. That's
Speaker 1: aged two emotional maturity. That is really no. I just
Speaker 1: find that really what does that mean? Um? It makes
Speaker 1: me think of Shazam though, because oh yeah, okay, so
Speaker 1: like no, but I know, I'm just like, so are
Speaker 1: they like numb to the world, because I guess that
Speaker 1: is a superpower, like not falling in love as a
Speaker 1: super power. I mean, if you look at like what
Speaker 1: Batman always considers his weakness, this is like, you know,
Speaker 1: his love interry. I mean all superheroes, I think fine,
Speaker 1: Daredevil does as well. UM feel like his love interests.
Speaker 1: He can't have them because we'll just get hurt. So listeners,
Speaker 1: tell me what you think. Emotional maturity UM means that's
Speaker 1: really fascinating. Uh So, then we have Phi Lavel, which
Speaker 1: is the fourth Captain Marvel is Phi Lavel. Also, I'm
Speaker 1: sorry if we're passing over your favorite. Captain Marvel definitely
Speaker 1: tweeted us and let us know why they're your favorite
Speaker 1: or when you first got into Captain Marvel um. So
Speaker 1: phi Level is Jennie Fell's younger sister. She was created
Speaker 1: by Peter David and Paul as a Setta and Captain
Speaker 1: Marvel volume number five, number sixteen, January two thousand and four.
Speaker 1: So Phila is created when Jennie, who was an only child,
Speaker 1: recreates the universe and in doing so creates various an
Speaker 1: anomalies which result in his mother being restored to life
Speaker 1: and his sister coming into existence. She's la seen romancing
Speaker 1: Moon Dragon um Phi. Lavel appears in the Annihilation Event,
Speaker 1: fighting alongside Nova's United Front in an effort to stop
Speaker 1: the destructive armies of a nihilis Um. It's so much
Speaker 1: it is. It is kind of interesting all of these
Speaker 1: and we're almost getting to what I guess I would
Speaker 1: consider but the most the most popular Captain Marvel Um
Speaker 1: Carol Danvers, which I mean just she is the most
Speaker 1: probably because she's getting her film right. She's the most
Speaker 1: popular because I mean, basically she had she was tied
Speaker 1: to Marvel. How she got her powers originally was because
Speaker 1: she was with him and the psych Magnatron thing went
Speaker 1: off and he covered her. He was dying of cancer.
Speaker 1: He covered her and to keep her from the blast,
Speaker 1: but she ended up absorbing all of the the powers
Speaker 1: from him um. And it's described in actually this I
Speaker 1: refreshed my memory last night by reading the two thousand
Speaker 1: twelve Kelly Sue run Um where it talks about her
Speaker 1: wanting to like because this is basically about her struggle
Speaker 1: to call herself Captain Marvel because she was Miss Marvel,
Speaker 1: and then also to wear kind of his Colors. Okay,
Speaker 1: so he so he was essentially like Captain Marvel or
Speaker 1: Captain Marvel. She was Miss Marvel. Yeah, she was just
Speaker 1: Carol Danvers. Yeah, and then she was she was she
Speaker 1: took on the mantle. She was just a human with
Speaker 1: Kay and then she was in this blast with him
Speaker 1: and she got powers from it. So is that gonna
Speaker 1: be Breeze movie? So she's a human? She is? Okay,
Speaker 1: So you know, I don't. I don't know because then
Speaker 1: in the Margaret Stole one that just happened that I
Speaker 1: said was so much like Superman to me is that
Speaker 1: she her mom ends up that her mom is an alien,
Speaker 1: So she's half and half. So but to me, uh,
Speaker 1: and I'm open to many things. Uh. To me, what
Speaker 1: makes her so awesome is that she is a human.
Speaker 1: She's only a human, and she absorbs these powers from
Speaker 1: that Psycho Magnatron incident, and she talks about it a
Speaker 1: lot like the incident um and she gets all of
Speaker 1: these powers from it, and so she becomes like superhuman,
Speaker 1: but she is human in the movie. It looks like
Speaker 1: to me, she they well, they say in the trailer
Speaker 1: that she got infused with alien blood to save her life.
Speaker 1: Or something. So I don't know if some um and
Speaker 1: there's a lot of like rumors about that whole scene
Speaker 1: anyways that they show in the trailer that maybe they're
Speaker 1: trying to throw us off and that is not what
Speaker 1: is the storyline. Who knows, well know next week or
Speaker 1: well we'll know like now, um, but she gets hurt
Speaker 1: or something and then they infused her with the alien
Speaker 1: blood and that's how she becomes what she is in
Speaker 1: the movie. I guess, yeah, not entirely. I know that
Speaker 1: there's a lot of sites that have broken down every
Speaker 1: single frame of that trailer. But I do know there's
Speaker 1: a lot of people that kind of don't want to
Speaker 1: watch the trailers anymore because they want to be surprised. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want to watch them anymore because
Speaker 1: there's just too much stuff and then you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's going to happen. I wanted to be all fresh
Speaker 1: and brand new and like yeah. So what I'm saying
Speaker 1: is it's okay people if if Captain some Captain Marvel
Speaker 1: fans haven't watched the trailers, I think it's I know
Speaker 1: Star Wars. There were some specific Star Wars fans that
Speaker 1: I knew that like refused to watch the trailers, like
Speaker 1: when Force Awakens was coming out, they just wanted to
Speaker 1: be surprised, and I'm sure they were. Uh so yeah,
Speaker 1: it's okay. Um, it's okay to to skip past that.
Speaker 1: But also I feel like a big thing in like
Speaker 1: social media and the Internet age is that you can't
Speaker 1: get mad if you see something, because you should shut
Speaker 1: it down if you don't want to see stuff or
Speaker 1: get stuff spoiled. Uh. Like what I'm doing is I'm
Speaker 1: just actively being like, oh no, you know. Uh, And
Speaker 1: like any I've seen people have already got to see
Speaker 1: the movie, and so I just have to scroll. I
Speaker 1: don't want to see mute them. Yeah, you know, it's
Speaker 1: get you know, mute Captain Marvel, like they are embargoing.
Speaker 1: No you can, but like the phrase, also those people
Speaker 1: are embargoed, I think because I have an embargo. I'm
Speaker 1: at the So when this drops, I will have been
Speaker 1: at the premiere yesterday, uh Monday, I'm going to the
Speaker 1: Captain Marvel premiere. Yeah, I'm really excited. And y'all I
Speaker 1: have this blue dress. I have this. I have this
Speaker 1: it looks like her blue it's her blue dress. I have.
Speaker 1: But um, it zips up the front, and y'all know me,
Speaker 1: I am not good with zippers. I had a whole
Speaker 1: zipper fiasco that happened at San Diego Comic Con, and
Speaker 1: if he was there, Essentially, I wore a zippered, tight
Speaker 1: outfit and my zipper broke and so my outfit was
Speaker 1: just open. It was a mess. But it just like
Speaker 1: slid down. It was a it was I know, I
Speaker 1: was tired of holding into goods. I wore a I
Speaker 1: wore a one piece, so luckily I had ge like
Speaker 1: I had these tight hot like white pants and I'm
Speaker 1: I'm extra. I'm way too extra at at a you know,
Speaker 1: I used to go to comic con though I would
Speaker 1: like beg my mom to take me to comic Con
Speaker 1: when I was like eleven. And now that I actually
Speaker 1: get to be on panels, I'm going to live my
Speaker 1: my best life and and do up as much. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take up as much space as possible. I wore
Speaker 1: a one piece and it zipped up right in the
Speaker 1: front and the zipper. I went to the bathroom. It
Speaker 1: was actually I was with er Kaishi, who you probably know.
Speaker 1: She's a host over at Geek and Sunjury. But we
Speaker 1: just did a panel for sky Bound and I was like,
Speaker 1: I have to be run in the restroom because then
Speaker 1: we're doing another panel that nurdiced I was hosting. Ran
Speaker 1: into the restroom, undid. When you're wearing a one piece, y'all,
Speaker 1: you have to like take the whole thing off to play.
Speaker 1: I also wore one piece for my Ralph Breaks the
Speaker 1: Internet premiere, same thing. If you can picture me in
Speaker 1: the bathroom taking the entire thing off to p it
Speaker 1: was a lot how to like have help putting it
Speaker 1: back on. Um. This is just behind the scenes that
Speaker 1: you all don't see bts UM. I also was talking
Speaker 1: with Anna here at My Heart about how because I
Speaker 1: was hosting with e at the Oscars, they had to
Speaker 1: sew my undergarment. They so one they put me in spanks.
Speaker 1: They cut off a leg of my spanks so that
Speaker 1: you couldn't see it because my slit was so high,
Speaker 1: and they sewed my spanks to my dress, so in
Speaker 1: order to pee, I had to pull my spank to
Speaker 1: this side. I just want you guys to know the
Speaker 1: behind the scenes when you see ladies on the red carpet,
Speaker 1: what is actually there's like an entire team of people
Speaker 1: that are sewing and snipping, and it's like, see, I
Speaker 1: don't know if like Sandy in Greece, that final scene
Speaker 1: where they had to sew her those black leather pants
Speaker 1: on her, that was me. Um. Anyways, I'm hoping when
Speaker 1: you listen to this, I will have had a great
Speaker 1: time in my zipper didn't break or else it would
Speaker 1: probably be in the news because I would be but naked.
Speaker 1: What was I gonna say? Okay, So, something that I've
Speaker 1: noticed that's in this lore is scrolls. So scrolls are
Speaker 1: also a fictional race of aliens, essentially their shape shifters um.
Speaker 1: And there's a very popular Crease scroll war that I
Speaker 1: know people were excited. I think that was referenced in
Speaker 1: the trailer. Um I again, I am coming at this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Cree Scroll War. So that's what's supposed to be happening.
Speaker 1: Like so Kevin Figi said, it's not going to be
Speaker 1: an origin story where she gets her powers in the movie.
Speaker 1: We're not going to see that she's already gonna have
Speaker 1: her powers and they're in the middle of this war.
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be kind of interesting to see, how like,
Speaker 1: because she's just already gonna be a badass like out there, um,
Speaker 1: and you see her in the green like. So I'll
Speaker 1: tell you from a fan point of view. When it
Speaker 1: was coming out last year with all the photographs because
Speaker 1: they were filming in l a Um and they came
Speaker 1: out with the green outfit, Oh yeah, I was like
Speaker 1: what no, why, what's happening? Uh? And then someone told
Speaker 1: me they were like, don't worry, she's gonna wear her
Speaker 1: blue and red like later. And I was like, because
Speaker 1: everything you saw was her in the green thing, which
Speaker 1: was probably like who knows, like two scenes or something,
Speaker 1: we don't know for me. I honestly, when I saw
Speaker 1: her in the green, I was like, isn't that also
Speaker 1: so they could see you? I mean, I'm sure that's
Speaker 1: not it now, But I never jumped to inclusions because
Speaker 1: when I saw her in her green outfit, I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's also how you do green screen stuff. That's how
Speaker 1: they see g I stuff. So if they wanted her
Speaker 1: bright colors to pop in a certain way, it would
Speaker 1: make sense that they would paint her green so that
Speaker 1: digitally they could then go in and put whatever they
Speaker 1: wanted there. Um. So I didn't know why people I'm
Speaker 1: sure that they will have her in her green because
Speaker 1: that's her original when she that's her cree. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: it's just so funny because when stuff comes out like
Speaker 1: that and you just don't know and we will will
Speaker 1: be like oh ha ha ha, like we everyone was
Speaker 1: spreading over this thing and it's not even a big deal.
Speaker 1: Well because then the trailer came out and she's all
Speaker 1: in her blue and red and she goes binary, which
Speaker 1: also people didn't like to see that trailer um when
Speaker 1: she goes completely like on fire, okay, super saying yeah, um,
Speaker 1: but because that is probably like a really huge scene
Speaker 1: and like, oh they didn't like that it was spoiled.
Speaker 1: She goes okay okay, So I mean I get it,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, I totally get
Speaker 1: I totally I totally get that. But I think they
Speaker 1: do they also have to think of people that aren't
Speaker 1: like me, that aren't necessary, that didn't grow up with
Speaker 1: Captain Marvel, that aren't invested as much. I mean I
Speaker 1: would a thousand percent and still see her, but I
Speaker 1: think they need they need some of those heavy hitting scenes.
Speaker 1: Same with you know, the other Marvel films and DC
Speaker 1: films and Star Wars like they need some really, even
Speaker 1: though it might be like, oh, they gave that away,
Speaker 1: they need some of those heavy hitting scenes and trailers
Speaker 1: for other people that are just casual action fans to
Speaker 1: want to see it. So I think it was smart
Speaker 1: for them, and it's still going to be cool to
Speaker 1: see how she gets to that level. Um, let me
Speaker 1: tackle to other Captain Marvels before we get you know,
Speaker 1: officially to Carol Danver's and talk about the future of
Speaker 1: Captain Marvel. So there was the fifth Captain Marvel is
Speaker 1: canoe er. I think I'm saying that right. Can I
Speaker 1: try to look me. You're doing a good job, thank you?
Speaker 1: Who first appeared in Civil War UM The Return The
Speaker 1: Return March two thousand seven. He is a scroll sleeper
Speaker 1: agent who is bound with Marvel's DNA. Okay, so a
Speaker 1: lot of these go back to Marvel. The first one
Speaker 1: Marvel's DNA to lock itself into Marvel's form and given
Speaker 1: technological replicas of the cree Nega bands. What's really funny though,
Speaker 1: is going through all of those, it just makes me
Speaker 1: think because I'm like, wow, wow, Like this was probably
Speaker 1: like a one run thing, Like who knows about this?
Speaker 1: Captain Marvel anyways. Um, but it's probably all because if
Speaker 1: they don't do one, so like what can we do.
Speaker 1: That's why it always goes back to Marvel because they
Speaker 1: killed him with cancer. Yeah, but obviously they kept his cells.
Speaker 1: He could come. I mean, you're never dead in superhero Land.
Speaker 1: So Nega bands were created by the Supreme More of
Speaker 1: the Cree. They're loosely based on the quantum bands, using
Speaker 1: the forces of the negative zone in the wielder's own
Speaker 1: psionic energies. So they essentially give you increased physical strength,
Speaker 1: interstellar flight, no need for food, water, air, or sleep.
Speaker 1: That's a huge advantage survival in the vacuum of space.
Speaker 1: So the next one is no Var. That was as
Speaker 1: part of the Dark Rain storyline Novar Joint. That's the next.
Speaker 1: Captain Marvel joined the new team in the Dark Avengers
Speaker 1: using the alias Captain Marvel. He first appears in Marvel
Speaker 1: Boy number one in August two thousand. He quit the
Speaker 1: team on discovering they were all villains, at which point
Speaker 1: he was look, that is a good. That is a good.
Speaker 1: So he's always had that like morality behind him because
Speaker 1: you know, he was originally sent to take over us
Speaker 1: and didn't, so he's always had that. When he discovered
Speaker 1: that they were villains, he left, at which point he
Speaker 1: was contacted by the Supreme Intelligence given a copy of
Speaker 1: the original Captain Marvel's Nega bands. Again, those are those
Speaker 1: super bands you can basically that's like, oh, Pete, that's
Speaker 1: like you can basically get away with anything. Um and
Speaker 1: totally should take his place at the creeze Protector of Earth. UM.
Speaker 1: And that leads us up to Carol Danvers in July
Speaker 1: of twelve. Carol Danvers a longtime super heroin known as
Speaker 1: Miss Marvel. So that was so she was in comics
Speaker 1: as Miss Marvel. Do you know how many runs? Like
Speaker 1: how long she existed as Miss Marvel before she switched
Speaker 1: over from the seventies till two thousand twelves. Okay, and
Speaker 1: now Miss Marvel is Kamala right, Kamala kan Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's Miss Marvel now, Okay. So and that like I
Speaker 1: believe that happened about the same time, Um, she came
Speaker 1: out and uh, Captain Marvel and they because that's like
Speaker 1: how it all happened. And I was like what um,
Speaker 1: which was also confusing for me as a fan as
Speaker 1: I was like, why are they They're keeping Miss Marvel.
Speaker 1: So it's not that they don't want to do Miss
Speaker 1: Marvel anymore, but I understand now like they're giving it
Speaker 1: to a younger generation and it's more diverse. I'm glad
Speaker 1: that they kept the mantle, you know. I'm glad that
Speaker 1: they didn't just undo because, like you said, it's from
Speaker 1: she existence to seventies, so I'm glad that she still
Speaker 1: has that history, but she can continue on the mantle
Speaker 1: in the way so it was it was in retrospect.
Speaker 1: Is a cool time, um to have Carol take on
Speaker 1: the Captain Marvel um title and change and then also
Speaker 1: have the younger generation come in and take up her
Speaker 1: Miss Marvel title, and uh, you know, it's a whole
Speaker 1: new generation of readers and types of nerds. So if
Speaker 1: someone wanted to get into Captain Marvel, would they start,
Speaker 1: Like I'm sure people ask you that in the comic books,
Speaker 1: right well, because I love Miss Marvels, and I'll point
Speaker 1: them to the now repackaged Miss Marvel years and in
Speaker 1: the big books. But if you don't want to get
Speaker 1: that crazy, which I feel like after you read like
Speaker 1: this two thousand twelve, Kelly Sue run when she becomes
Speaker 1: Captain Marvel. Initially you will want to go back and
Speaker 1: read the Miss Marvel stuff because you want to know
Speaker 1: her history and where she came from and what makes
Speaker 1: her her um. But but maybe not, maybe you just
Speaker 1: like her as Captain Marvel and you want to just
Speaker 1: keep going. And then there's also the other Kelly Sioux
Speaker 1: run which is from two fourteen. Uh, and that's a
Speaker 1: really good one. So um that one is the higher
Speaker 1: Further Faster, which that's in in her in the Captain
Speaker 1: Marvel stuff a lot um. I think that's Kelly Sue
Speaker 1: like she did to Higher Further Faster um in the
Speaker 1: two twelve one to um. But the thing that I
Speaker 1: love about the two one is the flirkin. Okay, what
Speaker 1: is that? Wait? No, no, wait, you're gonna tell me
Speaker 1: what that is. We got to take a quick break
Speaker 1: and then you're gonna tell me what the flirkin is.
Speaker 1: Ok right when we come back. Okay, and we're back, Okay, flerkin.
Speaker 1: That's her cat. Oh yeah, so her cat uh which
Speaker 1: in the comics and is kind of his name her name. Uh.
Speaker 1: The it's the alien species of cat. Oh, that's the
Speaker 1: type of okay, but her cat at least I know
Speaker 1: this from scene from everyone I know where you're going
Speaker 1: to say, Goose, that's not the cat's name. The cat's
Speaker 1: name is Chewy. So one thing that I'm going to
Speaker 1: say that might have been confusing in this lore, Like
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if they can. I know
Speaker 1: that legally they could use that name because they're all
Speaker 1: under the same company. But so the thing about it
Speaker 1: when they first came out with the cat, right and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god. You could see in
Speaker 1: the poster he's like down there. They're going to make
Speaker 1: the cat a big part of it. Um because the
Speaker 1: cat is a big part in the Kelly Sioux run
Speaker 1: um because yeah, okay, so well he's like, yeah, he's
Speaker 1: orange and he's fluffy, but his name is Chewy after Chewbacca.
Speaker 1: Because the thing about Captain Marvel is she's a huge
Speaker 1: Star Wars fan, Like her ship is named Harrison. She
Speaker 1: loves Star Wars, like Tony Stark is always teasing her
Speaker 1: about being a Star Wars nerd and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: That's so cool. Well no, I mean, that's so meta
Speaker 1: now that Disney and Star Wars, I mean, and Marvel
Speaker 1: are all together, so it's like, so it seems like great,
Speaker 1: guess what. They changed the cat's name. However, I'm still
Speaker 1: hoping that Goose dies because no, because Goose dies in
Speaker 1: the comics. No, he doesn't die. Well, Goose in Top
Speaker 1: Gun dies. Oh Goose and top Gun. Yeah, so I
Speaker 1: think that you are actively wishing harm to this cat
Speaker 1: and this movie. This is insane only because why would
Speaker 1: you change the cat's name when you have the Star Wars.
Speaker 1: You have Star Wars. You can use what I've heard.
Speaker 1: You want to know what someone told me? Is this
Speaker 1: a spoiler? This? And this is just hearsay. Someone told
Speaker 1: me that because Disney owns Star Wars and Marvel, they
Speaker 1: already have a property that they market called Chewy Chewbacca.
Speaker 1: They don't want two things. Yeah, they don't named with
Speaker 1: the same thing, so they just renamed it Goose. And
Speaker 1: I'm not okay with it. I'm sorry. We're destroying her
Speaker 1: most The biggest part of her origin story for you
Speaker 1: is that she remains a Star Wars fan. I'm sure
Speaker 1: that she will because she's because she lands in the nineties.
Speaker 1: For people that don't know, let's just go ahead and
Speaker 1: hop into what we do know about the film, and
Speaker 1: then we'll talk about the future of her. We're not
Speaker 1: to give anything away that isn't already you know, expressed
Speaker 1: in a one minute trailer. But she lands in the nineties.
Speaker 1: Um and we know that because she also lands through
Speaker 1: like a Blockbuster video and the trailer. Yeah, I'm really
Speaker 1: excited for whatever music, nostalgic music that they're going to
Speaker 1: be playing. I don't mind. So she might be a
Speaker 1: Star Wars fan, she might have some reference to Star
Speaker 1: Wars in some way, like in her bedroom or I
Speaker 1: don't know, but I understand why Disney wouldn't name him Chewy. Also,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I was gonna say, a lot of
Speaker 1: the viewership that's going to go see this movie, a
Speaker 1: lot of them are comic book readers, but a majority
Speaker 1: of them probably aren't, so they might not know the
Speaker 1: cat's name so much they do. Here for them to
Speaker 1: just change it, and that's what it is now, which
Speaker 1: I get it, so just like a quick thing. I
Speaker 1: came into the m c U. Not because I got
Speaker 1: into the comics in two thousand and six and Iron
Speaker 1: Man was already out and all of that. Um, So
Speaker 1: I have always been like, this is what the movies are?
Speaker 1: This so cool? Like he, uh, this is what it is.
Speaker 1: Because I didn't read the comics. I don't know that
Speaker 1: the every nuance, every little thing that's in the movies.
Speaker 1: But this is like the first movie for me that
Speaker 1: I am coming in with information. So now I sort
Speaker 1: of know what those people feel. Like that gets so aggravated. Um,
Speaker 1: but obviously I'm not letting it ruin my life, but
Speaker 1: like it just irks me. But now I I like
Speaker 1: can fully understand and see that perspective that I was
Speaker 1: always like, come on, it's a movie, but I can
Speaker 1: I get it, like your you want your character to
Speaker 1: be like protected in the same and which it's hard
Speaker 1: in the m c because it's totally different storyline. Um,
Speaker 1: there's so many iterations of her in the books themselves
Speaker 1: that I don't even agree with, like especially like the
Speaker 1: Life of Captain Marvel that just came out and how
Speaker 1: they rebranded, like how who her mom is and what
Speaker 1: her origin is. So that was a lot of things
Speaker 1: are happening that I'm I'm not okay with. But maybe
Speaker 1: like ten years from now, I'll be like, oh that
Speaker 1: was so silly. Yeah, But but right now I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't like what's happening with some of the things
Speaker 1: that they've changed, But now I can get it, Like
Speaker 1: what it's like to be a fan that that happens
Speaker 1: to Yeah, I think we've had a lot of these conversations.
Speaker 1: It's such a it's a really double edged sword because
Speaker 1: I always want people to kind of like take risks
Speaker 1: and I'm okay if a filmmaker has like, no, I
Speaker 1: think this could be great. I think that has happened
Speaker 1: sometimes where they've had to change an origin story or
Speaker 1: parts of it and ends up being in my opinion, better,
Speaker 1: or they both exist. It's not necessarily that one is better,
Speaker 1: but you get to have both in some world. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I as I say, I haven't read enough of her
Speaker 1: to really weigh or any of her to weigh in,
Speaker 1: but I think with it seems from what I can
Speaker 1: tell that people are really excited about this film. Oh yes, then,
Speaker 1: and that's great, Like because you're you're a huge Wonder
Speaker 1: Woman fan. Yeah, so that's this is like my wonder Woman.
Speaker 1: Whereas like this character, this is like I know a
Speaker 1: lot about this character. I want the best for this
Speaker 1: character and for her to be betrayed and loved. Like
Speaker 1: it's really hard to see. I didn't even create her,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh yeah, you're like, yeah, she's yours,
Speaker 1: you know. And um, so can you talk a little
Speaker 1: bit about her, like her personality, Like what is she like? Um?
Speaker 1: She I mean I think she was really like sarcastic.
Speaker 1: She's um. She really is like kind of like Captain
Speaker 1: America uh um in a sense that she wants to
Speaker 1: do what's right. Um. That's why she got into some
Speaker 1: trouble in the Civil War because she was like Antony's
Speaker 1: stark side. Um, because she was just going by protocol
Speaker 1: and there was some things that she did um that
Speaker 1: we're just like what the initiative was about that where
Speaker 1: it wasn't like so great as far as like morally
Speaker 1: and like for families and stuff like that. But she
Speaker 1: was just doing her job. Because she comes from the
Speaker 1: military background, I think that that kind of gets her
Speaker 1: in trouble uh on the likability scale, because she's, you know,
Speaker 1: she's a soldier, she has a job, she's gonna she
Speaker 1: has her orders. But then there's the other side of
Speaker 1: her that is like a human that has feelings and
Speaker 1: she's you know, she has all these power ors, and
Speaker 1: she goes through a lot of like turmoil, which is
Speaker 1: why she's like dealt with alcoholism. And her and Tony
Speaker 1: Stark have a like a relationship because they've both gone
Speaker 1: through the same things. Um. I wonder if they'll have
Speaker 1: that in the film. I wonder. I don't know, Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, this is the nineties, but maybe in Vengers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she uh. And the other Marvel character that I think
Speaker 1: of when you say that is Jessica Jones, who they
Speaker 1: did show in the Marvel Netflix film dealing with alcoholism.
Speaker 1: And that's what I liked about her is that she
Speaker 1: was able to be flawed in the way that Carol is.
Speaker 1: I think Carol is kind of obviously like Jessica Jones UM,
Speaker 1: who's also seen as like a street level ish, like
Speaker 1: you know, Marvel hero, but kind of more I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't think she's held in the same regard I
Speaker 1: would say the way that Captain Marvel is like she's
Speaker 1: held alongside um Captain America, UM, where they're seen as
Speaker 1: this like righteous you know. And I don't think anyone
Speaker 1: thinks that about Jessica, which I relate to her more
Speaker 1: like you know, we talked with Tara about how Harley Quinn,
Speaker 1: you know, is seeing and it's like, well, I like that.
Speaker 1: I like because I relate to them. I don't always
Speaker 1: relate to the more like righteous, upheld like law abiding superheroes. Um.
Speaker 1: But I do like that they added that for her
Speaker 1: because it seems like you know, with Wonder Woman. I
Speaker 1: love Wonder Woman, but she's very and I say this
Speaker 1: in the most loving way. I've always seen her as
Speaker 1: the mother of Earth. I've seen her like as the
Speaker 1: mother in the in the Justice League, Like she is compassionate,
Speaker 1: and I don't mean that in a bad way. I
Speaker 1: just mean she's she's um nurturing. She has all these
Speaker 1: traits that like some of her other male counterparts like
Speaker 1: don't have, which I think is necessary. I think I
Speaker 1: don't see those as a weakness. I see those as
Speaker 1: a necessary part of being a superhero. She loves us
Speaker 1: even when we don't deserve that. I see that as
Speaker 1: a mom, Like that's something my mother would do. Is
Speaker 1: like she she can't help herself but love us, love humans. Um.
Speaker 1: But she doesn't have as many flaws. She doesn't she's
Speaker 1: not an alcohol like, she doesn't have a wonder Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's so innocent, just so a childlike in a sense
Speaker 1: because she and that's what like in No Man's Land,
Speaker 1: she's like she doesn't get it, where Like I don't
Speaker 1: know if Carol would be like she because she's just
Speaker 1: like a badass. She would just be like, I'm going
Speaker 1: out there, like I'm not listening to guys. Like she
Speaker 1: does her own She does her own thing. Yeah. The
Speaker 1: one thing I will say I love about Wonder Woman
Speaker 1: is that she she doesn't listen to men because she
Speaker 1: never grew up in a world where they existed, so
Speaker 1: she doesn't know to listen to them. Like I love
Speaker 1: that she just when they talk and she was like okay,
Speaker 1: and then she's like cool, thanks, and she just like
Speaker 1: does her own things. It's because in our world, you know,
Speaker 1: and so much of literature and texture and text and
Speaker 1: even if we're looking at the Bible, it's like you
Speaker 1: must um honor and obey your husband, and she just
Speaker 1: didn't grow up with that. She didn't grow up in
Speaker 1: our society where that where you're supposed to do that.
Speaker 1: So when she encounters men telling her what to do,
Speaker 1: she honestly she's just doing She's just like, oh I
Speaker 1: what I don't. She honestly is just doing what what
Speaker 1: she would do anyways, because she doesn't have any she
Speaker 1: wasn't raised like that. So it's my favorite thing about her,
Speaker 1: even if it is kind of in like a I
Speaker 1: don't ways say innocenter, na naive, But even if it's
Speaker 1: kind of in a she didn't mean to She just
Speaker 1: says like what, no, I don't have to listen to you.
Speaker 1: Why would I listen? And also she's royalty, so she
Speaker 1: you know, doesn't have to listen to civilians. Um. I
Speaker 1: do love that about her. So what do you see
Speaker 1: as the future of Captain Marvel? Well, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: everyone says that she's going to come and beat Thanos. Yeah,
Speaker 1: um so I think that was her powers that would
Speaker 1: give that would well, that was the thing is that they,
Speaker 1: Um I think that they struggled a little bit with
Speaker 1: because she is so like Superman in the sense that
Speaker 1: he's like really hard to beat. Oh yeah, um so
Speaker 1: she's just so powerful. Obviously she takes like a beating,
Speaker 1: but um she can she just absorbs everything she can
Speaker 1: absorb like a punch and then bring it back at
Speaker 1: you like so and like in a in the comics,
Speaker 1: then she's up there fighting spaceships and taking like all
Speaker 1: of the fire and she just absorbs it all and
Speaker 1: then throws it all back at them. Um. So I
Speaker 1: think that she's she's a match for Thanos. So that's personally,
Speaker 1: and we'll see what happens. I personally think that she's
Speaker 1: going to rescue Tony Wow, because she's up there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because she can be in Spain so and and that
Speaker 1: would be super cool if it really did happen, because
Speaker 1: they have like this relationship in the comics, not anything
Speaker 1: like romantic, but like like a buddy, you know, relationship,
Speaker 1: because they have so much stuff in common. Um, Like
Speaker 1: he calls her care bearer in here, you know how
Speaker 1: he is. He gives he gives everyone nicknames. Um. But yeah,
Speaker 1: and then the Flirkin. I think it has something to
Speaker 1: do with the Flirkin. They have like time pockets in
Speaker 1: their mouth and they can make they can like multiply.
Speaker 1: And that's what's really cool about this is that the
Speaker 1: Kelly Sioux run in two thousand fourteen, Rocket was in it,
Speaker 1: and that was like around the time when Guardians came out,
Speaker 1: So I was super into Guardians and everything. Rocket and
Speaker 1: grew and he shows up in her comic and he's
Speaker 1: trying to kill her cat, and she doesn't know that
Speaker 1: it's a flirkin. She just thinks it's a cat, and
Speaker 1: then it turns out that it multiplies into a million
Speaker 1: cats and rockets. Like I told you, it was a flirkin.
Speaker 1: So that's like a big thing. And that's why I
Speaker 1: can't tell if they're marketing cat as much because it's
Speaker 1: cute and they did really well with Groot. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it's because if it's because it's a flirkin and
Speaker 1: it's like the key to saving the world, not maybe
Speaker 1: not necessarily saving the world, but it's like the key
Speaker 1: somehow to fighting Thanos is the cat. That would be
Speaker 1: really funny. Um. I do also think because it's cute
Speaker 1: and people love the Internet loves cats. I mean, look
Speaker 1: at what they did with Porgs. You know, they were
Speaker 1: pretty smart of like, I think, we can sell a
Speaker 1: lot of things and Disney is in charge, so yeah, um,
Speaker 1: but that would be fascinating. I mean Guardians now that
Speaker 1: she's introduced, right and she does a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: with them in the comics, so that's she could be
Speaker 1: in Guardians three three. Yeah, she could be up there.
Speaker 1: I think that she's well, you know, the all the
Speaker 1: original Avengers are the ones that are left, and so
Speaker 1: I think, you know, after the snap, oh, she's going
Speaker 1: to create and she's the leader of the Avengers, of
Speaker 1: these new Avengers, So maybe they're they're doing like a
Speaker 1: little transition here into the next ten years of the
Speaker 1: m c U. Look, if we could get America Chavas
Speaker 1: in there, I'm voting for her because yes, so if
Speaker 1: we're talking about the newer Avengers, she captain Marvel America Chaves,
Speaker 1: Miss Marvel like you were girls. Yeah, these are all
Speaker 1: like the characters that I love that they when they
Speaker 1: popped up in the Lego game, I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, they put them in like Ms. Marvel and
Speaker 1: her black leotard is in there. She's like an unlocked character,
Speaker 1: which I'm sure a lot of people when they unlocked
Speaker 1: her were like who is that? Um? But like, she's
Speaker 1: been around forever, so this is her time she's going
Speaker 1: to be. If people wanted to get into that New Avengers,
Speaker 1: which they also have an animated UM series as well,
Speaker 1: Marvel Rising. Marvel Rising. Yeah, if people wanted to get
Speaker 1: into at the comic that originally came out. It was
Speaker 1: like a couple of years ago. What would what is
Speaker 1: that comic that they would be getting in um um
Speaker 1: is Avengers. Um. There's so many girls, you know what.
Speaker 1: Kudos to people that keep up with all of this
Speaker 1: and can separate them all. I'm sure that person is
Speaker 1: Hector Navarro. Even me as a big America Chaves fan.
Speaker 1: I'll have to send you a picture I have. I
Speaker 1: think I probably got them from your shop. I have to.
Speaker 1: I have America Chaves her Beyonce cover for those that
Speaker 1: don't know she did. Uh. I think it was from Lemonade. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's really cool. I have her ultimates. Ultimates
Speaker 1: is what I owe the ultimates. Yeah, this was I'm
Speaker 1: sure that maybe we'll do a review. I know. The
Speaker 1: only thing that I would say is um. In closing,
Speaker 1: there's and there's been a lot of hate directed at
Speaker 1: this movie that hasn't even come out yet, and so
Speaker 1: much so that Rotten Tomatoes had to essentially revamp their
Speaker 1: entire site. Yeah, because and this happened too with Black Panther.
Speaker 1: When Black Panther came out, people tried to down vote
Speaker 1: it essentially even though it I mean no before it
Speaker 1: came out. Before it came out, people tried to downvote
Speaker 1: it so that its ratings would drop, and this happened
Speaker 1: with Captain Marvel. They downvoted it or reviewed it, you know,
Speaker 1: using only like one stars and stuff, even though again
Speaker 1: unless you're pressed, you haven't seen it. Um and so
Speaker 1: essentially Rotten Tomatoes had to change it so that you
Speaker 1: can no longer so like fans can no longer review
Speaker 1: a film before it's come out, because they were essentially
Speaker 1: just doing that to drop her score, and her score
Speaker 1: ended up dropping to be the lowest her It was
Speaker 1: lowest rated film in the entire m c U because
Speaker 1: of this. Yeah, and it's really really I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't even want to spend too much time on it.
Speaker 1: If you all have been listening to our issues about
Speaker 1: what happens with women when they try to join the conversation. Um,
Speaker 1: all Brie Larson asked for was that she wanted more diversity.
Speaker 1: She wanted that to be considered and kind of that
Speaker 1: put first with her interviews because just speaking behind the scenes,
Speaker 1: it is very hard. Most outlets do not really have
Speaker 1: a full roster of people of color, and even then
Speaker 1: they're not really given the opportunity. I'm in I'm in
Speaker 1: group chats with other journalists and we see this a
Speaker 1: lot of times, they're not given the opportunity to even
Speaker 1: speak to these actors or interview these filmmakers. And so
Speaker 1: it was really important to Brie Larson that she did
Speaker 1: give the opportunity to women and people of color, and
Speaker 1: for some reason that made other journalists very angry. It
Speaker 1: was insane that her just saying, Hey, this is a
Speaker 1: priority for me. I've noted, I've noticed this issue that
Speaker 1: we don't have a lot a lot of women and
Speaker 1: people of color um interviewing us, you know, especially with
Speaker 1: other films, and she's like, I really want to make
Speaker 1: it a point. Men got upset about it and down
Speaker 1: voted her thing. I actively, I actively had to unfollow
Speaker 1: multiple male journalists that I follow for saying like, I
Speaker 1: can't believe that she's made us feel unwelcome and I
Speaker 1: want to be like, welcome to my life. That's been
Speaker 1: if he and I his life, our entire life is
Speaker 1: not being the front and center welcomed one. So anyways,
Speaker 1: I just want to say I think she's amazing. I
Speaker 1: think she's doing what she is an ally, she's doing
Speaker 1: what she's supposed to do. Um, I will I will
Speaker 1: continue to say this. Women of color the least paid,
Speaker 1: least represented members of the nerd community period period. In fact,
Speaker 1: I had a guest badge to UM. Anytime I do
Speaker 1: a panel, I get a guest badge for UM for
Speaker 1: a guest to come. And I posted on Facebook and
Speaker 1: I said I'm looking for a woman of color if
Speaker 1: they would like to have my guest badge. And someone
Speaker 1: complained like, well, I'm a man, blah blah blah, I
Speaker 1: guess I can't have it. And I was like, listen, dude,
Speaker 1: Like I said, women of color are the least represented
Speaker 1: in this spot. If I want to give my guess
Speaker 1: badge to another woman of color so I can make
Speaker 1: some space for her in something that costs three d
Speaker 1: dollars to get into and is also isn't actively trying
Speaker 1: to invite women of color. And I want to use
Speaker 1: my platform in my little bit of space to bring
Speaker 1: someone else in with me. That's the whole thing. We
Speaker 1: have to reach down the ladder and pull each other
Speaker 1: up or else we're not getting in. So I'm just um,
Speaker 1: I'm I feel bad for what is happened. Like the
Speaker 1: amount of abuse that she has taken for just saying
Speaker 1: that she wants she'd even say that. She didn't even
Speaker 1: say that those are the only people she wanted. She
Speaker 1: just said that she wanted to make sure that they
Speaker 1: were given, you know, the same courtesy as everyone else.
Speaker 1: And justin saying that, it was like she was invalidated
Speaker 1: completely and had the site. You know, Luckily, Rotten Tomatoes
Speaker 1: stepped in because for a while she was just down
Speaker 1: voted completely. So if you're not on Twitter and in
Speaker 1: and in this world, and you're just a you know,
Speaker 1: family that's thinking of taking your family to see this
Speaker 1: and you see that it has the lowest rated score,
Speaker 1: you might not. So I'm really glad that Rotten Tomatoes
Speaker 1: stepped in and did something about it. But I don't know.
Speaker 1: These are these are the conversations we're going to continue
Speaker 1: to have on here. But things are luckily looking up.
Speaker 1: I think she's gonna be awesome. I think she's going
Speaker 1: to kick I think that she is. I think Bretty
Speaker 1: Larson was a great pick for this, and I'm excited
Speaker 1: to see what she's gonna do. Yeah, I think it's
Speaker 1: good that she's I mean, you could see from her
Speaker 1: other choices and movies that she's taken on and like
Speaker 1: when she was at the Oscars and hugging all the ladies,
Speaker 1: it's just nice like to be there, yeah, and just
Speaker 1: like use your platform to be, like like you said,
Speaker 1: reach back and help others. Oh yeah, yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: I feel like to Jessica chas Stain is someone that
Speaker 1: has been a huge ally. When she found out that
Speaker 1: Octavia Spencer wasn't being paid as much as her, she
Speaker 1: told Octavia Spencer, Hey, this is how much they're paying me,
Speaker 1: just so you know. Octavia Spencer asked for more money
Speaker 1: because of that and was able to get more money,
Speaker 1: but she wouldn't have known that they were paying her less.
Speaker 1: That is an ally. That's an ally, and we have
Speaker 1: to look. I feel like so much, you know, women
Speaker 1: are against each other so often, and these are women
Speaker 1: who are really really trying to say, hey, I know
Speaker 1: that we've been I know that these women have been
Speaker 1: pushed out of this community, and I want to make
Speaker 1: sure that they are included. It's not even that I
Speaker 1: want to include them over, you know, and I want
Speaker 1: to I want to make sure that her voice is heard.
Speaker 1: So something that you Tiffany are also doing at the
Speaker 1: Perky Nerd. I'm going to bring it all the way back.
Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us today to talk about Captain Marvel.
Speaker 1: We will get Wait, this was just an introduction to
Speaker 1: you know, the character of Captain Marvel. We will get
Speaker 1: into her and continue to talk about her as you know,
Speaker 1: the movie comes out and we can reassess some of
Speaker 1: these some of these, you know, things that we thought
Speaker 1: may or may not happen. And if you know now
Speaker 1: that she's officially an m c U. Yeah, so, tiffany
Speaker 1: where can everyone catch you? Um? You can? Well, I
Speaker 1: will actually be at El Capitan um seeing the movie
Speaker 1: on opening night. Oh so you mean people can actually
Speaker 1: walk up to you? Ye? Okay, but I'm kindly scared. Okay.
Speaker 1: We normally say where what is your social media handle?
Speaker 1: So people can follow she's telling you where you can
Speaker 1: actually find her physically. I'm scared. I'm scared. I don't
Speaker 1: want people to see my reaction. Uh. If you don't
Speaker 1: like it, you like it too much? You don't like it?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, but after that you can come and
Speaker 1: see me and get all the comics because you're gonna
Speaker 1: love this character. Um at the Perky Nerd in Burbank.
Speaker 1: It's one six zero six West Magnolia Boulevard. It's a
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Speaker 1: And um, you can go to the Perky Nerd on Twitter,
Speaker 1: Instagram and Facebook to find us and follow us. Um.
Speaker 1: But the that's very important. Oh yeah, I might take
Speaker 1: you to a different Perky Nerd. Yeah. So it's the
Speaker 1: Perky Nerd and you also have a lot of art.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, it's a little bit Captain Marvel up you
Speaker 1: haven't yes, yeah cool. Yeah. And if people ever want
Speaker 1: to order prints, yeah, um, we do put a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff on the Perky Nerds store dot com. Um. Um,
Speaker 1: yeah that we do a lot of a lot of events.
Speaker 1: We have a lot of people come out and do signings. Um.
Speaker 1: Like we had the Little Golden Book artist um for
Speaker 1: Captain Marvel, which, by the way, if you don't know
Speaker 1: Captain Marvel and you are an adult or you're a
Speaker 1: five year old, you should get this Little Golden Book
Speaker 1: because it's a great introduction to the character. It shows
Speaker 1: her in the Air Force, it introduces you to her
Speaker 1: fighting with the Guardians, it introduces the cat um and
Speaker 1: it's like super easy, super beautiful and you would know
Speaker 1: all about this character before you go see the movie.
Speaker 1: Oh so cute. Um, I am at miss Danny Fernandez
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