1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: What's up with Angela Yee And I have somebody who 2 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: I've been wanting to talk to for quite some time. 3 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: I know, we keep on discussing it, but you were like, 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: the time is right now. 5 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: I'm Erica Ford is here. 6 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 3: The time is right now. 7 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 2: The time is right now. 8 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: And I love every time I see you when you 9 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: say I just got some good news, because it feels. 10 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 2: Like that happens a lot. 11 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: And you know we met while you you are, you 12 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: still have life Camp, you created life Camp, but that's 13 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: your baby. And December thirty, first I saw you said. 14 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 3: You're transitioning from running the day to day operation. So 15 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 3: I will no longer be the executive director. I will 16 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 3: no longer be hiring people, I will no longer be 17 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 3: signing time cards. I will no longer be like you're 18 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 3: supposed to be at work doing this, like all of 19 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 3: that day to day stuff. I'm no longer going to 20 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 3: be doing that, which is an extreme. Like anybody who 21 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 3: runs a business knows what day to day are operation is, 22 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 3: and it's a lot. It has taken a toll on me, 23 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 3: but I put in my time. You know, it's twenty 24 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 3: two years, twenty three years. 25 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: I don't even remember, which is amazing to have and 26 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: stuff for people who are listening who maybe don't know 27 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: Life Camp, you know, shame on you, but can you 28 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 1: tell people what life Camp is? 29 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 3: Way up with life Camp. We are a not for 30 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 3: profit organization based in Jamaica, Queens, but has footprints across 31 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 3: the nation, across the world. Really, we are one of 32 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 3: the leading or the leading violence prevention organization in the nation. 33 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 3: That's right, I said it, Erica Ford fact Check. Anybody 34 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 3: who wants to dispute, give me a call. But we've 35 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 3: worked from the hood to the White House. We've been 36 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 3: able to move billions of dollars across the United States 37 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 3: to help people start up these businesses, to hire formally 38 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 3: incarcerated men and women at a very high scale, and 39 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 3: you know, really reduce violence across the nation and help 40 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 3: change and transform a lot of young people's lives in 41 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 3: a lot of communities. 42 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: And when people see you, they love you, you know, 43 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: because peace is definitely something that I always see you 44 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: talking about the weekend where there was no gun violence, 45 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: no guns in New York, you know, which is a 46 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: major feet with. 47 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 3: A major feet And imagine, right, just imagine like if 48 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 3: you had a weekend, you sold a lot of coffee 49 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 3: or a lot of juices. Right, you're gonna look at 50 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 3: what happened that weekend. How do we keep it going right? Right? 51 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 3: This city? Right, it doesn't most places don't do that. 52 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 3: They don't invest and keep growing what works. Right, We 53 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 3: really have to cultivate what works. Although the city is 54 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 3: doing stuff and you know, supporting the work, but we 55 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 3: have to be scientists. We've got to really hone in 56 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 3: on what works and expand it and expand it. And 57 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 3: in most of the area in which the CMS sites, 58 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 3: there's several sites in each borough. We got true to 59 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 3: Life in Staten Island. We got Brag and released the 60 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 3: Grip in the Bronx and several others. We got Saved 61 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 3: in Harlem. You know, a lot of folks Operation hood 62 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 3: Man up in Brooklyn, and a lot more. We're in Queens. 63 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 3: One hundred suits is in Queens. But it's like it's 64 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 3: all over five boroughs and then we're all over the state. Right. 65 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 3: We just did a training with a practicum that we 66 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 3: did a partnership with the University of Chicago, and so 67 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 3: we're training folks who are starting this work on leadership 68 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,119 Speaker 3: from around them. So we had thirty eight folks from 69 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 3: twenty one different cities training them how to do this 70 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 3: work in a real sense right the practicum. And then 71 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 3: while we were in the practicum, we found out that 72 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 3: our graduation for these folks are going to be at 73 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 3: the White House on February sixteenth. 74 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 2: That's huge, that's huge. Yes, that's amazing, asfolks who. 75 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 3: Have been incarcerated for twenty thirty years, sixteen years, you know, 76 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 3: and so now come home and be able to do 77 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 3: this work and then on top of it, be able 78 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 3: to graduate at the White House right when you none 79 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 3: of them. 80 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: That's going to be such a surreal moment for so 81 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: many people and for their families. 82 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you come and to celebrate with us. 83 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: Oh, I would love to let me put that on 84 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:18,119 Speaker 1: my calendar because that does sound great. And when people 85 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 1: were talking about defund the police, you know, that's something 86 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: that I feel like was something that you've been having 87 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: those conversations about. 88 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 2: I know, the messaging for some people got a little loss. 89 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: But it's also allocating money because when you started doing 90 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: this work, it wasn't like there was a budget. Right here, 91 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 1: we want to give you money to get an RV 92 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: so you grow around. 93 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 2: It wasn't like that, right. 94 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 3: It took me fifteen years to get that RV and 95 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 3: to advocate for that RV. I started doing this work 96 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 3: December twelfth, nineteen eighty seven. It's going to be thirty 97 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 3: six years in a week, yeah, that is in a 98 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 3: week now that our city and realize that, and in 99 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 3: joining the December twelfth movement, it made me realize that 100 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 3: it's something more to myself. We have to dedicate our 101 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 3: lives to something more than ourselves. And so there was 102 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 3: no violence prevention, there was no CVR. We was marching 103 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 3: to the crack house, closing the crack house, you know, 104 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 3: and really organizing. And what motivated me even more to 105 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 3: work with the young people was seeing what happened when 106 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 3: their parents went to jail, when their parents were killed 107 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 3: in this crack epidemic. And so you know, I started 108 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 3: and never looked back and never looked back. 109 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: And even when you talk about like kids and their parents, 110 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 1: even for you thinking about you know, your father and 111 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: your relationship or lack of being able to have one, 112 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: you know, with your father, that probably I mean definitely 113 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: impacts how you feel about government, how you feel about war, 114 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: how you feel about you know, a lot of different things, 115 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: even in some times, in ways that you don't realize 116 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: at first. 117 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 3: No, that's a fact, right. And this year was a 118 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 3: true awakening year for me twenty three because you know, 119 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 3: when I got sick and I don't know what the 120 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 3: hell is going on? You just I'm sitting by myself. 121 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 3: I'm you know, I literally had to sit down and 122 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 3: rest because I totally depleted my nervous system, right. And 123 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 3: in sitting down, I'm looking at my life. I'm looking 124 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 3: at my journey, and I'm saying, you know, my father 125 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 3: was in the Vietnam War and died, and that is 126 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 3: inside of me. And then the anger, like people say, 127 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 3: why are you angry? I'm angry because my father was 128 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 3: killed sensusly. And then these kids are still being killed sensusly. Right. 129 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 3: And we're and people will say, we're not in a 130 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 3: war in New York City, right, But people who are 131 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 3: getting stomped out by the police or you know, shot 132 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 3: down in their hood, we're at war. They're trying to survive. 133 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 3: They're in flight or fight mode, right. And that brings 134 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 3: your nervous system to a space that is unhealthy. Right. 135 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 3: You wake up every day in a war zone. 136 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: That's not healthy when you wake up and go outside, 137 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: like let's go fight, you know what. I'm trying to 138 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: fight to stay alive, to be able to make it home. 139 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 3: Right. I was watching the news yesterday and all these 140 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 3: folks are talking about the attacks that they had on 141 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 3: the train, right, which I don't take the train anymore, 142 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 3: right because I don't have the capability to like look 143 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 3: all over the like you're. 144 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: In a war zone, and when you're on that train 145 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: and then the doors closed and you're in between stops, 146 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: you just don't. And you know it's funny because I 147 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: really did. I haven't taken the train since the pandemic. 148 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: But I'm like, the traffic is a congestion price and 149 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: is coming, yeah, I know, and the trains are really 150 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: because I was trying to figure out what is this 151 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: going to mean? Because fifteen dollars to be driving in 152 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: the city, on top of any other tolls you might 153 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: have to pay, on top of paying for parking. 154 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to pay it. 155 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: But you can't like think about people who are like 156 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: another fifteen dollars on the top of everything else I have 157 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: to pay every day. 158 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 3: That's a that's and that's the war, right, that's the violence, 159 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 3: because why do we have to pay, right, why are 160 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 3: we living in these conditions where I gotta drive seventeen 161 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 3: miles to get quality food? Right? Right? Our kids you 162 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 3: gotta lie about your address to put them into school 163 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 3: in another district. 164 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: That's a crime, right, and you can potentially We've seen 165 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: people go to jail. 166 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 3: But it's not a crime to miseducate me, right, It's 167 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 3: not a crime to put me in a special ed 168 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 3: class and give me thorizine and whatever them other drugs 169 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 3: that they give the kids during school hours because they uncontrollable. 170 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 3: I was in detention as a kid all the time. 171 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 3: I was in trouble all the time. They said I 172 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 3: talked too much obviously, Oh I talk for a living now. 173 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 3: You weren't able to cultivate my leadership, my greatness, right. 174 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 3: Instead of you cultivating my greatness, you punish my greatness. 175 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 3: Made me feel like I was doing something wrong. But 176 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 3: I was a leader, right, And so I used to 177 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 3: get beat in school like you used to have me 178 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 3: stay with my hands up, and they used to beat 179 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 3: me with a ruler, had me stand like in Catholic school, 180 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 3: it was torture, and so so when I think back, right, 181 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 3: all of this is part of the trauma that I 182 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 3: went through. I was ducking bullets as a teenager. When 183 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 3: we go out to parties, we were shootout. We were 184 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 3: in mass shootings and didn't know we were in mass and. 185 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: Then everybody runs and you don't. Yeah, I mean I 186 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: definitely have been in those times, were on the. 187 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 3: Cars and everything, and you're watching your friends die right 188 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 3: there next to you, you know, And all of this 189 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 3: had a traumatic impact on my life. But I never 190 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 3: stopped to say, you know, I was in a mass shooting. 191 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 3: You know, I just kept going, right, We just keep going. 192 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: And it took you, being sick, to really sit down 193 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: and think about all of those things. And you know, 194 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 1: and I know last time I saw you, we were 195 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: talking about the marijuana licensing because you were one of 196 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: the first right to get a license in New York. 197 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 2: But that did not mean that battle was over. 198 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: So can you talk to me about that process because 199 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: and you bought this amazing merch for me, Cushion Kemmick, 200 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: And what the process has been for you guys to 201 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: even get to the point where you can open up 202 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: just ansory or a lounge or anything. 203 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 3: We have been in this process for over a year now, 204 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 3: and and folks were moving for the landlords are racists 205 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 3: here in New York City. They're racists. We will get 206 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 3: to a point where we're getting ready to sign a 207 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 3: lease and then we don't want to do cannabis, right, 208 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 3: and so they take us for a three month process, 209 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 3: and then we don't want to do cannabis. Right. 210 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 2: You didn't know that when we first started talking, right, 211 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 2: But we talked for three months. 212 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 3: Right when we signed the loy You didn't know that. 213 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 3: Now we're getting ready to in the middle of negotiating 214 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 3: a lease, and now you want to say you don't 215 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 3: want to do cannabis right. Then the other one was like, oh, 216 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 3: I got a mortgage and we can't do like you 217 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 3: didn't know you had a mortgage with like you know, 218 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 3: and it's so many different things that have happened to 219 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 3: us on the road that it's not an accident. Right. 220 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 3: And then we get into this lawsuit with these MSOs 221 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 3: who want to be the dominant force in the city, 222 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 3: plain and simple. They wanted to be the first ones 223 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 3: to go, so they slowed down the process and they 224 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 3: waited for now all you know, licenses is open. Anybody 225 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 3: could apply. 226 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: So even being one of those first people to get it, 227 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 1: now it's like, what was the that was expensive? Also 228 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: the whole process too, because aside from all of that, right, 229 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: how much like people say, okay, we're going to give 230 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: these licenses to people who were formally incarcerated for marijuana, right, 231 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: and they'll be given some type of press. 232 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 3: And the communities that were impacted. So we were getting equity, right, 233 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,719 Speaker 3: but it costs each one of those spaces that we 234 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 3: had to do a security plan, we had to get architects, 235 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 3: we had to do all of these different designs, we 236 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 3: had to you know, people had to work, right, and 237 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 3: so we're paying people, but there's no money coming in 238 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 3: for this, right. And so so now this the beginning 239 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 3: of last week, the injunction was finally lifted. The judge 240 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 3: sign all the card licenses are back in place, and 241 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 3: actually for twenty today there's a meeting that allows us 242 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 3: to know what the new rules are and everything else. Right, 243 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 3: and so we're in the motion now we are you know, 244 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 3: are we're in the motion to open up and look 245 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 3: to open up real soon. 246 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 2: Do you have a location yet? 247 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 3: I'm not going to say we have a because I 248 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 3: don't want no more here. We're in the city, That's 249 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 3: what I can say. We're in the city, and so 250 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 3: we look forward to opening up so that we can 251 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 3: provide equity, right, so that we can when we talk 252 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 3: about quality food, we'll be able to provide quality food. 253 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 3: We'll be able to provide a twenty four hour state 254 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 3: of the art center in our community, right and help 255 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 3: other people who are doing this same kind of work 256 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 3: in giving back to what it is. But because we 257 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 3: need equity, you know, we can't, you know, And so 258 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 3: all of those who are listening to the end of 259 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 3: the year, if you need a foundation to donate to 260 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 3: because you don't spent too much or got too much money, 261 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 3: like I be here. I've been here in fact, Joe 262 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 3: talking about all that money he made life campin dot 263 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 3: com backslash. 264 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: Donate Joe, like you know, we need you can be 265 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: running day to day at life Camp. 266 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 3: So there's two young ladies, OK, they're going to be 267 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 3: the co executive directors. You know, I'm not saying that 268 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 3: I'm not. You know what, I had to get two 269 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 3: or three people to replace me. 270 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 2: But that's you know, you started it. You created it. 271 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: You founded it, and it was a lot of work 272 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: for you to be able to do that. But now 273 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: hopefully you know funding budget and we went. 274 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 3: From five thousand dollars to a five million dollar. 275 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 2: Budget, so you should be hired to coed. 276 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 3: And but five million dollars is not a lot of 277 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 3: it's not enough, right, it's not because when you look 278 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 3: at trying to give somebody a decent salary, right, and 279 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 3: then provide we pay our kids to participate in program 280 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 3: because we know young people need to be paid, want 281 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 3: to be paid, right, and so they're in our work 282 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 3: programs right. And then all of the other programs that 283 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 3: you have. And then space right, rent for space. Just 284 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 3: like the police have a fleet. We need a fleet 285 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,719 Speaker 3: so we can respond events like so all of these 286 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 3: things cost money and a lot of people will be like, yo, 287 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 3: I represent the streets. Yo, I'm about to streets. But 288 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 3: the streets needs help. The streets is crying for help, right, 289 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 3: and so how do we put the money? Boys and 290 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 3: Girls Club, the YMC, they ain't helping the kids that 291 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 3: we help, right, And so we really need people to 292 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 3: support our work, to give back to Life Camp, to 293 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 3: volunteer for Life Camp, and continue that work and support, 294 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 3: which is why we partner with paper Planes. 295 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 2: Yep, right, I saw you with Lauren London. It was 296 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 2: her birthday too. 297 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 3: I got on my Lauren London protect your piece outfit 298 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 3: right now? 299 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 2: Okay, we like it. That's cute. I love that. I 300 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 2: think she's amazing. 301 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: It's amazing just the way that she's always been because 302 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: I do know Lauren London personally too, even you know, 303 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: before Nipsy, but even seeing how she keeps his legacy alive, 304 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: but just her as a human being. She's never thirsty 305 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: for attention. You know, she does what she does. Mind 306 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: to business. 307 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 2: Happy to see her out there working too and back. 308 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 3: Yes, yesterday was her birthday, so hopefully. 309 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: She had birthday and so yeah, so talk about the 310 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: the the partnership you have with Plane paper Planes. 311 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,119 Speaker 3: So we partner. They have a slogan greatness as a process, 312 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 3: and we have a slogan Piece as a lifestyle, and 313 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 3: we wanted to bring those two entities together to help 314 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 3: transform young people's minds. When you look at Emery who 315 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 3: came out and you know, helped a lot of formally 316 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 3: incarcerated men as well and women learn from him and 317 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 3: see him and his what he did for planes and 318 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 3: how it is now grow to and the same thing 319 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 3: we want to do with people on the question of 320 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 3: pieces a lifestyle, because in order to really have greatness, 321 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 3: you got to have peace in your life. You can't 322 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 3: be when you talk about Lauren London, right, it's to 323 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 3: protect your peace, like she is serious about protecting her peace. 324 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 3: And that's how we want most people to be, and 325 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 3: that's why we want them to join the movement. You 326 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 3: can there's very few crowns left, given one of the 327 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 3: last to Angela Ye right now she gona, but it's 328 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 3: it's we're gonna have more merch come out together. We're 329 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 3: gonna continue to do events and push the two missions right, 330 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 3: because the mission is more important than the actual material. 331 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 3: The material supports the work and you know, the different 332 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 3: ways that we can connect to organizations or entities or 333 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 3: corporations to build a message and to bring where young 334 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 3: people go to show because young people don't like to 335 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:31,479 Speaker 3: be part of something that's not cool. 336 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 2: Right, right, Listen, no one does right right. 337 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 3: Even though even though we're all dead Nick fans, but 338 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 3: they keep losing, you know, we still support the next 339 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 3: right and. 340 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 2: The nets you know, Ioklyn Nets. 341 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 3: But they winn't know, ain't they represent New York City. 342 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 2: I always have higher hopes for us, but you know, 343 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 2: maybe this year is a year. But okay, go ahead. 344 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 3: But now we just really want people to support Life Camp. 345 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 3: We want them to join and help us build this 346 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 3: to a whole other level. And that's why we're going 347 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 3: you know, national working with folks. Training, That's what I'm 348 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 3: gonna be doing a lot of now, Okay, training, especially 349 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 3: training women in this work. And because I know, as 350 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 3: a black woman doing this work, I was constantly you know, 351 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 3: all of the above, and so I want to give 352 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 3: some of the stuff that I learned to other women 353 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 3: who are stepping into this field. 354 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: See, And so I want to discuss also because you know, 355 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: obviously you work closely with the White House, and I'm 356 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: sure that's had a lot of ups and downs for 357 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: you too. And people talk about politics so much right 358 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 1: now as we're getting ready to see what's going to happen. 359 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: You know, certain things are very scary to me when 360 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 1: we look at who's in the White House. 361 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 2: But also local government. 362 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 1: We know matters a lot, and you work a lot 363 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: with local politicians, and so what would you say to 364 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: people now who are listening. When it comes to people 365 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,479 Speaker 1: don't trust politicians, People have issues with the whole voting process. 366 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: People also need to know how can I change policy, 367 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: because you guys have been able to get policies change. 368 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: I saw recently they introduced something about, you know, not 369 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 1: putting people in confinement, salitary confinement, you know, and a 370 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: lot of things are a long process to get done. 371 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: And change does not happen overnight at all. And when 372 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: it comes to government. 373 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 3: You're absolutely correct. And the White House just offer a 374 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 3: White House Office of Violence Prevention, which is something that 375 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 3: we've been working on for a very long time. And 376 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 3: I would say stay with it, right because what else 377 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 3: are you going to do? Right? When we talk about 378 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 3: the judges, people talk about they don't want that people 379 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 3: to go to judge to jail, but we vote the 380 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 3: DA's it, but we're not voting right. And so if 381 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 3: you don't like the DA vote. 382 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: And you can also make your voice be heard the 383 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: people around you. You can run, you can tell somebody 384 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: else to run, you can advocate for somebody who's running 385 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 1: that you would support. 386 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 3: And if you're not in the process, you're standing on 387 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 3: the outside watching the product and it's impact in your 388 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 3: life either way, and so why not be an active 389 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 3: participant in your life? Right? And So I don't believe 390 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 3: that voting is the end all and the be all 391 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 3: to what we have to do, but it is a 392 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 3: part of the process, and you have to participate in 393 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 3: the process. I think that it is important for us 394 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 3: to vote and vote the right people, because if we voted, 395 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 3: we could change elections. We have yes, yes, and we 396 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 3: have you know, and in most communities, because all politics 397 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 3: are local, most communities five hundred people could change the 398 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 3: way to vote swings, right and so, and most of 399 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 3: the people from eighteen to forty four are not active voters, 400 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 3: right and so I remember when I first started doing 401 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 3: this work, a politician said to me, you know, if 402 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 3: it wasn't for you, Erica, we wouldn't be doing nothing 403 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 3: with those folks because they don't vote, they don't support 404 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 3: our they don't financially support us. We don't owe them 405 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 3: not because we don't even have an interaction. There's no 406 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 3: they don't even exist. 407 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: So your issues an issue to us because it don't matter, yeah. 408 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 3: Correct, correct, So we have to be an active participant. 409 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 3: So I would urge people to get their children involved 410 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 3: in voting, to educate them about who are the politicians. 411 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 3: I would have urged parents to come out to their 412 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 3: children's school and let their voices be heard. Even if 413 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 3: you're calling or your facetiming somebody, but be active because 414 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 3: these people are controlling your life, in your children's life, 415 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 3: you know. And just as we're on a note, you 416 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 3: have to be active in your child's life. You got 417 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 3: to know who and what they're talking about. Right, Yes, 418 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 3: you have to make fake pages on social media. 419 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 1: Too much access now to you don't have any idea you. 420 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 3: And it's dangerous. People are being killed from social media right. 421 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 3: People are being raped from social media. People are being 422 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 3: kidnapped from social media. You have to protect your children 423 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 3: and the only way you could do that is being 424 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 3: an active participant in their life, you know, and at 425 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 3: means checking their rule. If you're paying the phone bill, 426 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 3: check their phone you can. 427 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: Like it's like, Terrey is it here? She's I've known 428 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: her since she was very young. Her mom used to 429 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: always have her and she would be places doing. Do 430 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: you have you ever had an interview with Erica Ford? 431 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? 432 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: Okay her, but her mom is very active and making 433 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: sure Like when I met her, she probably was like fourteen, yeah, 434 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: fourteen years old and you know, now in college and 435 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: doing the thing and amazing, and so she's up here 436 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: just kind of like soaking in the knowledge, but she's 437 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: very active. 438 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 2: But to see how active her. 439 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 1: Mom was and making sure she was there again and 440 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: getting them done. 441 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yes. 442 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 2: But that's inspiration. That's an inspiration. 443 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 3: You You, if you're not active in your child's life, 444 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 3: somebody else is going to be active in your child's 445 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 3: life and you have to. You have to. I've you know, 446 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 3: I've heard parents say like I don't want to get 447 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 3: them mad or they didn't want me to, but I 448 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 3: would rather than be mad at me and alive then 449 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 3: me standing over a casket and talking about what I 450 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 3: should have, would have or could have did, you know? 451 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 2: You know? 452 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: And I think about how many things you must have 453 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 1: seen in almost forty years of the work that you've 454 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: been doing. When you talked about being sick and thinking 455 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 1: about like the trauma that you have, but the things 456 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: that you've witnessed that has to be really heavy. 457 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 3: Also, Yeah, I've definitely witnessed a lot. It's definitely heavy, 458 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 3: and it's it's still it's not getting light, which is 459 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 3: the sad part. Right when you look back. I've been 460 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 3: watching some of them old movies, and you look back 461 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 3: at us as black folks in America, we were always sharp. 462 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 3: We will control our community. We controlled the economy in 463 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 3: our community. And now we've switched through, you know, and 464 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 3: so we we They make us believe that we don't 465 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 3: have the power to control ourselves, right, And I think 466 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 3: that if we slow down and work together and stay 467 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 3: focused on what is important, which is your children and 468 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 3: as a as a community, we can resolve a lot 469 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 3: of the issues. You know, because when you when you 470 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 3: look at things that in other people's community, it is 471 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 3: because they stand up together and don't let it happen 472 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 3: in their community. And so we need to follow suits. 473 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 2: How many people have tried to make you run for office? 474 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 3: And I did it once. I did it once I 475 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 3: felt victim, and that was when. 476 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 1: I felt victim. But you know, at the same time 477 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 1: that could. 478 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 3: Have so so you know, I'm saying we should vote 479 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 3: and other people should run. But don't get me twisted. 480 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 3: That is a game. That is a like you know, 481 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 3: that's a whole other conversation at another time. But they 482 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 3: you know, what power do you really have? Right? And 483 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 3: then you're so indebted to the people who got you 484 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 3: in office. 485 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 2: Listen, Hill Harper is running right. 486 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 3: Yes, I believe in hill hoppers, but the. 487 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 1: Stuff he's going through, and it's like I had this conversation. 488 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna say anything. It's like shocking, yo, Angela. 489 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 3: I've seen more shit in politics than I did on 490 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 3: the streets. 491 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 2: Wow. I believe people. 492 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 3: When I ran for office, people's lives were threatened, their 493 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 3: funding was taken away. One lady, they harassed her so 494 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 3: much she had a heart attack and died. Right, I've 495 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 3: seen that what has happened in politics. Politics is a 496 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 3: dirty game. It is a dirty. 497 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: Game, and some people feel like they can get in 498 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: there and clean it up, and they don't know. 499 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 3: It is no they getting there and get it, you know. 500 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 3: I remember one lady said, the more good I did, 501 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 3: the more black balled I got right, right, right, And 502 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 3: that's and you know, I've been black balled a whole lot, 503 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 3: you know, but I stayed focused on the mission, right, 504 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 3: and that's these young people, right, that's these young that's 505 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 3: our future, right, and so we owe it to our children. 506 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 3: It is our inherent right to live free of violence. 507 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 3: It is our inherent right live free of all of 508 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 3: these human rights violations. And the only way we could 509 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,959 Speaker 3: do it is by being an active participant. So if 510 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 3: you don't know how to do that, join life camp, 511 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 3: you know, volunteer, life campinc dot com, donate, or join 512 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 3: an organization near you. There's a lot of organizations that 513 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 3: are really active in doing this work all over the nation, right, 514 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 3: So like, if you don't know one, hit us out. 515 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 3: We'll direct you to one in your local organization. But 516 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 3: you've got to do something right. 517 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 2: Well, I'm excited to partner around some things. Yes, you 518 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 2: know coming up. 519 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 1: I have some brainstorming ideas already. But that's important to 520 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: me also, And so I just wanted to make sure 521 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: that we had you up here. Life camp dot org, 522 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: life Campinc. Dot com, Live Campinc dot Com. Okay, life 523 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: campinc dot com. Let's make sure everybody goes on there 524 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: and donates. And like you said, it is the end 525 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: of the year. People need those I gotta get my 526 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: money here exactly, Okay to life campink dot com and 527 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: the irs. 528 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 3: Because it's going somewhere. 529 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 2: It's going somewhere, so why not let it do some 530 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 2: great things. 531 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 3: Exactly, exactly and thirty six years. I don't think that 532 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 3: I need to prove that I'm doing not taking people money. 533 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 3: Like it's never been about money for me. If it 534 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 3: was about money, I would be working someplace else. 535 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: I've never heard anybody say anything negative about you, like 536 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 1: from all the people that I've seen you working with, 537 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: And you've touched a lot of lives and you've managed 538 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: to bring in a lot of people who may otherwise 539 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: have not participated. 540 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 3: Correct, you know that's the people I work with, the 541 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 3: people that don't nobody else want to work because we 542 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 3: can't throw our kids away. 543 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely not. 544 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: All right, So we're going to be watching also for 545 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 1: a cushion chemic because that's important too. Very you know, 546 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 1: the cannabis company, the cannabis industry billions of dollars, billions 547 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: of dollars, and. 548 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 3: We're not the ones making those money. 549 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,959 Speaker 1: And also the fact that it was something that was 550 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 1: criminalized for so long and now we look at people 551 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: talking about the health benefits of it and the medicinal 552 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: part of it. 553 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 3: But let's not over say when you say criminalize, that 554 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 3: means people will to jail people to people died, people's 555 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 3: families was disrupted. And so where's the real equity, right, 556 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 3: where's the real equity? And I need New York State 557 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 3: to work harder to give folks equity for this, this 558 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 3: business that is supposed to give equity to communities and things. 559 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 3: And shout out to Chris Alexander, who is the head 560 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 3: of ocm's. He's in there bobbing and weaving and punching 561 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 3: back and fighting to maintain. But it's a lot of work. 562 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 3: It's a lot of work, It's true. 563 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: And when you have a criminal record, there's so many 564 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: things that you can't do, or so many things that 565 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,959 Speaker 1: are harder to accomplish correct in many different ways when 566 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: it comes to housing, when it comes to work, even 567 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: getting your real estate license or getting license in many things. 568 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 3: And those are all the people who are making the money, right, 569 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 3: they are the ones who are still getting paid because 570 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 3: the real estate, the lawyers, the accountants, the bankers, right, 571 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 3: they're all getting paid through this. The contractors. Yeah, it's 572 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 3: all big, you know, And it's do we go to 573 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 3: politics again? 574 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 2: Well, you know what, we've seen some things happening. 575 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 1: I saw the announcement about next year as far as 576 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: people's records right, Yes, that what was the new law 577 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 1: slate Yes. 578 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 3: Qean slate acts. Shout out to my girl Sheena Mead. 579 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,719 Speaker 3: She has a clean state, but people's records will be 580 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 3: an expunge and New York State has had, you know, 581 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 3: good expongent stuff and good laws in it. But we 582 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 3: got to keep keep going. 583 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 2: But it does show you. 584 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: Like I said, it's slow, but things can happen, but 585 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 1: people do have to actively participate and push for those 586 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 1: things and know what you're asking for, yes, you. 587 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 2: Know as well, and don't settle for us exactly. 588 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: Well, Erica, for always a pleasure talking to you, and 589 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: I cannot wait for us to figure out some more 590 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: things that we could do. And for good news because 591 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: every time I see what I love is when you're like, 592 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: we just got some good news today, we have some 593 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: good news on the way. So that attitude is definitely 594 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: protecting your peace and. 595 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 2: We want to protect you also. 596 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 3: Thank you. 597 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 2: All right, it's way up with Angelague Erika 598 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 3: Bord Well, Kay