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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Best podcast Available. I'm

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Speaker 1: the best player available, the best podcast available. BPA is back.

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Speaker 1: Everybody is officially Draft season. It is back with the

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Speaker 1: rock of the show, the man to my left, the

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Speaker 1: man who towers above me. This is going to be

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Speaker 1: a bit the entire off season. It will. I'm Andrews Ciciliado.

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Speaker 1: This is the Great Gibbe Jason Gibbs. Not behind the

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Speaker 1: glass right on CBD, I know, but like here live and.

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Speaker 2: In person, and they put me on camera at in Indy.

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Speaker 2: I was telling these guys, I haven't been in this

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Speaker 2: stadium for the combine. I've only been on Radio Row.

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Speaker 1: They've never let you in.

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Speaker 2: No, No, And probably there's a reason for that, and

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Speaker 2: it's probably a good reason because I'd like to cause

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Speaker 2: a little trouble periodically. But yeah, the only time I

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Speaker 2: atrium and it was Jared Goff and Carson Wentz and

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Speaker 2: it was insanity at its finest. And they quickly realized

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Speaker 2: they couldn't keep it in the atrium and moved it

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Speaker 1: So, for those who don't know the lay of the land, here,

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Speaker 1: the convention Center is about a block over there, and

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Speaker 1: that's where everyone sets up. That's where the podiums are.

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Speaker 1: That's where you're watching CBD every day. And then really

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Speaker 1: there's not many of any media here now at the

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Speaker 1: stadium for the drills, it's an NFL Network ESPN event

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Speaker 1: and they have those sets. And then the riff raff.

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Speaker 1: The media kept me over there at the convention Center.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't calling him riff raff, but you know, you just

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Speaker 1: don't need They don't want a scenario in which people

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Speaker 1: a GM or accosting a coach. It's all the scouts

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Speaker 1: down here at the stop watches where they're doing the

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Speaker 1: forty and you see that set up and you see

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Speaker 1: and then everyone watches on TV. But now you're actually

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Speaker 1: in the building, will you be working out or do

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Speaker 1: you choose like maybe Abdul Carter and others, he has

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Speaker 2: At the combine. My workout was walking over here. Okay,

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of steps I've gotten my steps in.

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Speaker 2: The fitbit. I think thinks that the fitbit was put

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Speaker 2: on someone else, and the fitbit is questioning a lot

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Speaker 2: of things right now. But I've gotten my steps in.

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Speaker 2: It's good. It's good.

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Speaker 1: I love this city. I love it.

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Speaker 2: If you can get to anywhere indoors, if you want

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Speaker 2: to walk outside, it's actually nice enough to walk out.

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Speaker 1: Saturday degrees to day. It's beautiful. Yeah, Bobby in shorts.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to the actual content, and coming up we

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Speaker 1: will talk to Kat Hickman, Brown's assistant. G I'm really

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Speaker 1: good stuff going behind the scenes on what these draft

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Speaker 1: meetings are like, because the workouts are one thing. The

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Speaker 1: combine is about the medical and the draft meetings like

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Speaker 1: the board, asking him about that time they did something

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Speaker 1: of our organization. Kat is really good insight is what

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Speaker 1: that process is like. Is there like a Pete Carroll

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Speaker 1: Hint he doesn't. But what are those meetings like, Kat

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Speaker 1: and then both Andrew Barry and Kevin Stefanski speak as

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Speaker 1: the coaches and gms always do here in Indie. We'll

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Speaker 1: get to Stefanski in a little bit. Let's hit on

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Speaker 1: Andrew Barry, who spoke on Tuesday the number one headline

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Speaker 1: for him. I just want to say this, guys, and

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Speaker 1: that is nothing has changed with Miles Garrett. We still,

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Speaker 1: as he said in Mobile, do not want to trade him.

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. We do not want to trade him,

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Speaker 1: and it just doesn't matter. So nothing has changed. While

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Speaker 1: many people thought that that would be the dominant storyline

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Speaker 2: Between that, you're watching Kirk Cousins. The Falcons say they're

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Speaker 2: move by Andrew Berry. He's under contract financially, it really

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Speaker 2: doesn't make sense to try to trade him or to

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Speaker 1: I asked another GM for another team yesterday that shall

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Speaker 1: can you just tell me this? I mean, have you

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Speaker 1: how'd that go for you? And he was like, I

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Speaker 1: like like you've you've at least shot a text. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to comment. Look, they're gonna get shut down

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Speaker 2: If you were a GM in the NFL, there are

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Speaker 2: thirty two of them, thirty one of them. You're not

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Speaker 2: doing your due diligence if you don't make a phone

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Speaker 2: what would it take? And if you're Andrew Berry, sit back.

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Speaker 2: He's under contract. Let's go, we move forward, and we'll

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Speaker 2: cross another bridge if we have to at a certain point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I keep getting asked, well, what's kind of happen? Guys.

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Speaker 1: It's a long off season. There are benchmarks throughout this

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Speaker 1: very different to Lamar Jackson in mid March last year,

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Speaker 1: who hit send on a similar Instagram post, an IG

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Speaker 1: that was a bit different. We knew that Lamar Jackson's

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Speaker 1: He got the contract, Miles says, maintained it isn't only

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Speaker 1: new league year March ten, March twelve, negotiation on March ten,

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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, And I mean even with David Nijoku a

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Speaker 2: A lot of things can happen that the change of

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Speaker 2: going to do here going forward. And there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of questions for this Browns front office and coaching staff

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Speaker 2: as we as we approach the twenty twenty five season,

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Speaker 1: Speaking of free agency, Andrew Berry did say, not on

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Speaker 1: always does here, that he expects Nick Chubb to hit

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Speaker 1: free agency, which, again, the negotiation period is on Monday

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Speaker 1: shocking Nick's contract is up. As ab did point out,

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Speaker 1: there wasn't much more detail beyond that. He did say

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Speaker 1: have to find the right price. I personally do think

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Speaker 1: that a year removed from that surgery right and nearly

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Speaker 1: be a better player. It is tough out there, however,

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Speaker 1: for a veteran running back. I don't want to see

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Speaker 1: him go play anywhere else. No, we all agree. I

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Speaker 1: think they got to find that number. What does that

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Speaker 1: may not be a March twelve thing. It might be

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it sucks, It's part of the business.

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Speaker 2: You hope that he's back. I mean, he's given a

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Speaker 2: a very tough injury to come back from. He's working

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Speaker 2: go for him. And that's there. It goes back to

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of tough decisions for this front office

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Speaker 2: I mean that's unfortunately parting ways with jan Thornhill and

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Speaker 2: Charlie Hewlett, who had started one hundred and fifty two

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Speaker 2: football team behind Joel Botonio. You don't know what's going

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Speaker 2: to happen with Botonio. There's a lot of salary on

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Speaker 2: this football team right now and some tough decisions still

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Speaker 1: I have a feeling absolutely and they likely will happen.

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Speaker 1: Joel Potonio said that he is leaning one way, and

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Speaker 1: we'll have to find that out relatively soon because the

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Speaker 1: calendar with the extended season now and the seventeenth game

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Speaker 1: tag window and the Browns are not expected to use.

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Speaker 1: The franchise tag closes next Tuesday. It's like this, they'll

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Speaker 1: sell quarterbacks here on this field behind us, you will

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Speaker 1: not see cam Ward and should Or Sanders. However, the

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Speaker 1: as well. There's also the pro day for Colorado coming

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Speaker 1: down of Miami, and the same thing. They'll also do

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Speaker 1: private workouts. They will collect all the information possible. The

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Speaker 1: Browns are sitting at two and I think one thing, Gibbe,

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Speaker 1: figure out who they like the best. And I mean,

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Speaker 1: i'd be a quarterback. Prepare yourself for that. But we

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Speaker 1: don't know what the Titans are gonna do. And that's

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Speaker 1: the big question mark on this draft.

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Speaker 2: There's four main players you think at one, yeah, at

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Speaker 2: one for them, Abduel Carter Travis Hunter, the top two

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the NFL Draft. I don't know what direction

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Speaker 1: Or all of the above meaning veteran end. Yes, you

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Speaker 1: to Those trades never happen. They they almost never happen

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Speaker 2: You're resetting the board Thursday nights and you're going, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Kat Hickman here. The defensive lineman of linebackers were on

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Speaker 1: remember My Giant, the movie with Billy Crystal and Georgie

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Speaker 1: Marrason and the NBA legend Big number seventy seven. That's

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Speaker 1: what this is right here. It's like this. It's like this.

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Speaker 1: I think it works like Gibby. Gibby could be sitting

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Speaker 1: And now we're actually going to talk to an adult

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Speaker 1: on the best podcast available. We've had on Andrew Barry,

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Speaker 1: Kat Hickman, the Browns assistant GM here the combine on

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Speaker 1: best pod available. Great to see you, great to see you,

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Speaker 1: What combine number is this?

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Speaker 3: This is gonna be six?

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Speaker 1: Okay, and have you like done the sant Almos and

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Speaker 3: This is actually my favorite part, the steps that we get.

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Speaker 1: What's the style? Are you shooting hoops like Nick sirianni

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's part of some of the strategies

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Speaker 3: where you want to figure out how they're going to

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Speaker 3: respond in certain situations. I think there's a fine and

434
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Speaker 3: healthy balance between building trust relationships, starting to I would say,

435
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Speaker 3: because you don't do that in twenty minutes, but really

436
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Speaker 3: starting to build that relationship so you can unlock more

437
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Speaker 3: things as you go through the process. Because again, this

438
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Speaker 3: is one step in stone to many more steps that

439
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Speaker 3: we're going to do through the month of March and April.

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Speaker 3: So how can we get the most out of those?

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Speaker 3: And again it's very tailored to who we're.

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Speaker 1: Talking to, talking to Kat Hickman here, the Brons assistant

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Speaker 1: GM who leads them. Do you guys rotate like Kevin

444
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Speaker 1: may start or AB may start.

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Speaker 3: Yes, primarily a B and Kevin in terms of starting,

446
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Speaker 3: but then depending on the type of interview we're going

447
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Speaker 3: with the position, coach is going to run a lot

448
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Speaker 3: of the questions too, what is.

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Speaker 1: And I've asked Kevin this too, what is for you

450
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Speaker 1: when you evaluate a quarterback. The first thing that you

451
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Speaker 1: want to see, the most important thing, the non negotiable

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Speaker 1: for you.

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Speaker 3: I'll go on field, and I could give you a

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Speaker 3: non negotiable off the field as well. So let's go

455
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Speaker 3: on field on field, really thinking through what kind of

456
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Speaker 3: rollodex of situations he's acquired over the years of experience

457
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Speaker 3: he's had in terms of decision making and again, situations

458
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Speaker 3: he's seen. I think over the course of the year.

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Speaker 3: That's something that as I evaluated quarterback, I found to

460
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Speaker 3: be very important in how you can project future future

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Speaker 3: success in performance. Not that it's a perfect science, but

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Speaker 3: what kind of situation decision making process they have been

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Speaker 3: exposed to in college and for how long, I think

464
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Speaker 3: is pretty important.

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Speaker 1: Do you think it's necessary to see how they've dealt

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Speaker 1: with failure adversity?

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Speaker 3: For sure, And I don't think that's limited to quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I think maybe more for a quarterback, especially in the

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Speaker 1: leadership position.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's a fair point, because they are going to

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Speaker 3: be under the Spotlight's the most important position in football,

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Speaker 3: so most definitely adversity. Like what's the clutch factor? Like,

473
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Speaker 3: you know how many games they bring back the team?

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Speaker 3: How did you respond after an interception? How did you respond?

475
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Speaker 3: And you know, down moments in the season, those are

476
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Speaker 3: all really really important because they're going to have to

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Speaker 3: do with that in the pro Like you know, every

478
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Speaker 3: season has its ups and downs. But I really want

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Speaker 3: to emphasize that it's important at every position. I've seen

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Speaker 3: a lot of times in my career players who had

481
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Speaker 3: had limited adversity throughout their entire journey, either football or personal.

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Speaker 3: And not that it's a bad thing, but when it's

483
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Speaker 3: the first time that it hits you as a pro,

484
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Speaker 3: we got to be prepared to support them in the

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Speaker 3: best way we can. And that's what this process is.

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Speaker 3: It's about understanding their journey and being prepared to support

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Speaker 3: them at the next level.

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Speaker 1: And it's a perfect tie. And actually to a guy

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Speaker 1: that just won a Super Bowl and you were there

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Speaker 1: when Jalen Hurts was taking fifty third overall, he certainly

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Speaker 1: faced adversity, lost a job transferred obviously didn't was in

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Speaker 1: the first round quarterback. You guys took him in the

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Speaker 1: second round. He faced that he beat that he just

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Speaker 1: won the Lombardi Do how do I phrase this philosophically?

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Speaker 1: If you go to the Division A round he was

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Speaker 1: the only guy that wasn't a first round pick in

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Speaker 1: the divisional round, right, the other seven were. Are you

498
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Speaker 1: of the book leaf? It sounds like a loaded question.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying we've taken a quarterback at two, but

500
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Speaker 1: of the belief that to get there, you kind of

501
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Speaker 1: got a need one of those guys. Because even though

502
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Speaker 1: the second day quarterbacks this year are really interesting, second

503
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Speaker 1: day quarterbacks other than Jalen Hurts really don't hit that often.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Dak was a third day quarterback, but there

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Speaker 1: aren't that many examples.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the thing I would say, I looked at

507
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Speaker 3: this past this past playoff, only six of the fourteen

508
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Speaker 3: quarterbacks on the team were an initial top fifteen selection

509
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Speaker 3: with the club they were playing with. So it's to

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Speaker 3: show I think it shows that, yes, that's definitely a

511
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Speaker 3: very viable path, but there's different ways to skin the cat.

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Speaker 3: And to your point, some of them may have been

513
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Speaker 3: first round pick but with a different team now, so

514
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Speaker 3: there's different methods of acquisition. And I think that's how

515
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Speaker 3: we like to look at everything. It's like, how can

516
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Speaker 3: we look at all avenues and you know, there's a

517
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Speaker 3: fine balance between your needs between best player available between

518
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Speaker 3: the value matches the slot where we're going to pick them.

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Speaker 3: So how do y'all put this together and really also

520
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Speaker 3: make sure that you get great people. The one thing

521
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Speaker 3: you can't miss on, you can't miss on the person.

522
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Speaker 3: And those are things that we are very intentional and

523
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Speaker 3: relentless when it comes to figuring out who these guys are,

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Speaker 3: both on and off the field.

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Speaker 1: One more Eagles connection here. Howie Roseman said yesterday that

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Speaker 1: he is maybe uncomfortably obsessed with scouting O line, D line,

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Speaker 1: that you can't have enough O line, D line or

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Speaker 1: you of the same mind. Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: I think that's something I learned from him when I

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Speaker 3: was at the Eagles. I think they've done a phenomenal

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Speaker 3: job with their line of scrimmage. I think, I mean

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Speaker 3: some of their depth and backup players would be starting

533
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Speaker 3: for other teams, you know, and.

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Speaker 1: Could likely leave for free agency and do that. Yep.

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Speaker 3: And the thing that I really admire about their process

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Speaker 3: is they say they're about the line of scrimmage and

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Speaker 3: they're going to win the trenches, But what do they

538
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Speaker 3: what do they do to make sure they execute that?

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Speaker 3: And they're very intentional. Relentless is a word that comes

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Speaker 3: to mind when I think of how we in player

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Speaker 3: acquisition and making sure that they take They take a

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Speaker 3: significant look at how they're going to build the starters

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Speaker 3: and the depth. They have one of the best offensive

544
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Speaker 3: line coach in the league, so the invest significant resources

545
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Speaker 3: and the position coach there. They invest significant time in

546
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Speaker 3: player development with their program Connor Barwin, who's who's leading

547
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Speaker 3: their efforts and making sure that they develop those guys.

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Speaker 3: So there's a lot of relentlessness and intentionality and building

549
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Speaker 3: the trenches. And I think that's why they've been so successful,

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Speaker 3: is because they that's the path and they don't deviate

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Speaker 3: from it.

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Speaker 1: I was trying to remember the phrase it was uncomfortable obsession.

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Speaker 3: He said, yeah, I mean, that's perfectly describing him. I

554
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Speaker 3: think he is about He is like that about building

555
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Speaker 3: a team like I rarely met someone like him who

556
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Speaker 3: sleep breeds. You know, you get a text at you know,

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Speaker 3: midnight because he just had an eye and we got

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Speaker 3: to work on it the next morning and it's fantastic.

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Speaker 3: So I think he's very that. If there was one

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Speaker 3: takeaway I got from him is how relentless he is

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Speaker 3: about team building. And that's how I aspire to be

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Speaker 3: if I get a chance to run a club.

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Speaker 1: Do you read the text at midnight or because like

564
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Speaker 1: personally I can't. I don't want to my night saying

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Speaker 1: I'm going to hear the vibration, I put it on

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Speaker 1: the carpet and then I don't hear the vibration. Then

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Speaker 1: I look at it at five or whenever. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: wake up. You actually grabbed your phone at midnight?

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Speaker 3: If I'm up, yes, If I'm not, it's going to

570
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Speaker 3: go to the next day. But if I'm up, I'm

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Speaker 3: pretty late late night work because I have young kids,

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Speaker 3: so I normally have to like put them down and

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Speaker 3: go back to work for a minute. So if I'm up, yes,

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Speaker 3: I do it. Just get my mind rolling though, so

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Speaker 3: sometimes those leads to not much sleep at night. But

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Speaker 3: that's what I love doing, so I definitely don't mind it.

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Speaker 1: Are you getting I was talking before? You should get

578
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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl ring, by the way, because you were

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Speaker 1: there when half this team was built.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's credit to them, it's credit to the coast,

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Speaker 3: of course, and I'm just happy for them.

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Speaker 1: Of course. But if you got a package on your

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Speaker 1: front door that you had to sign for, that would

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Speaker 1: also be nice. I'm saying it. You don't have to say. Finally,

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Speaker 1: who's your favorite Canadian in this draft?

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Speaker 3: That's a great question.

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Speaker 1: Do you need names? There's the wide receivert stamperd, there's

588
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Speaker 1: Nathan Rooked, the quarterback in Indiana. It's not Actually there's

589
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Speaker 1: Elger's mother, although he's probably not gonna get drafted. The

590
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Speaker 1: quarterback was at the Senior boyd. Yes, it's not a

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Speaker 1: long list this year.

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Speaker 3: It's not, and it hasn't been. It probably hasn't been

593
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Speaker 3: as much as like in previous years. But what I

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Speaker 3: will say is I've been incredibly impressed with how much

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Speaker 3: more Canadian talent we can get on the side of

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Speaker 3: the border. And whether they get drafted or they make

597
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Speaker 3: it onto a teams or even through the CFL scouting process,

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Speaker 3: some guys, you know, make their way for a couple

599
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Speaker 3: of years or whatnot. Like I mean, Alex Singleton is

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Speaker 3: always going to be one that I was with him.

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Speaker 3: I mean I was not with the Stampeders when you

602
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Speaker 3: was in the CFL, but I was in the CFL

603
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Speaker 3: at the same time as him, and then we both

604
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Speaker 3: went to the Eagles, and I think his story is

605
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Speaker 3: like so wonderful and I love to see more Canadian

606
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Speaker 3: succeed in involvement in the NFL because there's talent out

607
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Speaker 3: there too, not as deep as the pool here, but

608
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Speaker 3: there's definitely some great talents.

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Speaker 1: Well, there's plenty of talent on this field when they

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Speaker 1: get going, when the workouts get going. With over three

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Speaker 1: hundred players of the Combine, maybe not like three hundred

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Speaker 1: and twenty nine actually working out, but they'll be working

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Speaker 1: out here and you can keep on following them at

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns dot com. And Kat Hickman will be here

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Speaker 1: for all of them. Thank you for joining the best

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Speaker 1: part of ill Thank you. Great stuff there from Kat

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Speaker 1: Hickman taking you behind the curtain er into the suite.

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Speaker 1: All the teams have suites here in Indianapolis where they

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Speaker 1: are meeting with the players, not just the quarterbacks. It's

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Speaker 1: more than just the quarterbacks, but all of the players,

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Speaker 1: over three hundred of them at the Combine. Did you notice,

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Speaker 1: through the magic of television or if you're listening to

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Speaker 1: the audio version, we'll paint the picture for you. We

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Speaker 1: have gone from Lucas Oil Stadium to Jason Gibbs inside

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Speaker 1: the Media Center. This is a room full. If you

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Speaker 1: can look behind us of media, interviewing media. That's exactly right.

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Speaker 2: I think Kyle brand on Good Morning Football summed up

628
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Speaker 2: exactly how this goes. Quick conversations, always looking over the shoulder,

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Speaker 2: maybe for the next person to talk to. When'd you

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Speaker 2: get here? He's taking the super Bowl? But no, they

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Speaker 2: totally apply as they apply.

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Speaker 1: And I can tell you that we are staying at

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Speaker 1: a hotel downtown where we get Marrio points. There's like

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Speaker 1: ten of them, so good luck figuring that out. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: moving on, you get a lot of points on this trip. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know it's a good one. Good for you. Andrew

637
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Speaker 1: Berry spoke. We spoke of his press conference earlier on

638
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Speaker 1: the pod. Kevin Stefanski did his media session earlier this afternoon.

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Speaker 1: We're taping this on Wednesday. Hit some of the same

640
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Speaker 1: things AB did. Not a lot of clarity on Nick

641
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Speaker 1: Chubby is going to hit the free agent market. Kevin

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Speaker 1: Sevanski also added no Greenbrier this year. They've been two

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Speaker 1: previous training camp trips. I know you're upset to West Virginia.

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Speaker 1: Also sounds like joint practices, not one, but more than one.

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Speaker 1: Not ready yet to announce those for later in the

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Speaker 1: summer when we get to training camp. Also, he talked

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Speaker 1: about the quarterbacks. The Browns did meet with Shador Sanders

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Speaker 1: today Wednesday. They have also met with camp Ward in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: Stefanski said he is impressed with both different guys, different personalities,

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Speaker 1: but he was impressed with both. What goes into that meeting,

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Speaker 1: Kat Hickman told you a little bit on the board,

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Speaker 1: a little bit like just get to know you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And we had a number of guys on

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Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns Daily today and that's what coach said it himself.

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Speaker 2: You know, this is a process where for some of

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Speaker 2: these guys, it started with the Senior Bowl and getting

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Speaker 2: to know some of those seniors, getting to know him

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Speaker 2: a little bit more here, doing some more research as

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Speaker 2: we talked about earlier on the podcast, at their homes

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Speaker 2: where they grew up, at their colleges, and then you'll

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Speaker 2: have the individual visits and the individual workouts, and then

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Speaker 2: you'll have the workouts at their respective universities. So a

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Speaker 2: lot goes into it still and we've worked two months away.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna jam pack a lot of stuff here in

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Speaker 2: the next couple months to determine who the Browns eventually

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Speaker 2: end up taking it to pick number two.

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Speaker 1: And Stefanski did say that he will be on the

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Speaker 1: road for these pro days you haven't always seen that.

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Speaker 1: He didn't say which ones. I think it's safe to

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Speaker 1: assume that for the quarterbacks potentially at the top of

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Speaker 1: the draft. And I don't want to speak for him,

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Speaker 1: but those would be ones you would want to attend.

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Speaker 1: March nineteenth and Colorado March thirty attentatively scheduled down there

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Speaker 1: at Miami. What else stood out? He got pressed a

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Speaker 1: lot about is this a return to the old offense?

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Speaker 1: As he said last month on the Bark Tank, It's

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Speaker 1: not exactly a return because you want to move forward.

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Speaker 1: But I think a lot of the stuff that this

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Speaker 1: team valued a few years ago are going to be

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Speaker 1: things in the offense they value moving forward.

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Speaker 2: And he said it on Cleveland Brown's Daily. Really excited

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Speaker 2: to have Tommy Reese in the fold as his OC

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Speaker 2: and excited to see what he can do. He's well

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Speaker 2: thought of at the highest levels. Nick Saban, Bill Belichick,

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Speaker 2: a lot of some of the top coaches in the

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Speaker 2: profession with a lot of great things to say about

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Speaker 2: Tommy Reese going to get his chance now as the

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Speaker 2: OC and I think it's going to be a really

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Speaker 2: good thing for Kevin Stefanski in this offense.

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Speaker 1: And I buried the lead a bit. Stefanski also, much

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Speaker 1: like Andrew Berry said, don't want to trade Miles Garrett

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Speaker 1: and use the phrase present and future. He says Miles

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Speaker 1: is a part of the team's present and a part

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Speaker 1: of the team's future. Not going to trade him. Said

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Speaker 1: he has spoken to Miles, but was not corroll back

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Speaker 1: the curtain as to how those conversations.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's been uniformish since yesterday when Ab talked

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Speaker 2: and today when Kevin Stefanski talked Miles Garrett at Cleveland Brown,

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Speaker 2: and we're figuring that he's going to be a Cleveland

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Speaker 2: Brown for a few more years to come in least.

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Speaker 1: But that said, everybody that stops either of us walking

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Speaker 1: down the street in Indianapolis will ask, yes, to whom

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Speaker 1: is he getting traded? And I will say the same thing,

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Speaker 1: not getting traded. No, right, not going anywhere, not as

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Speaker 1: far as I know. If training camp or you can go, well,

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Speaker 1: it's a long offseason. Conversations can be revisited. The team

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Speaker 1: is firm right now, not getting traded. We're also firm

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Speaker 1: that we invite you back to another edition of best

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Speaker 1: where the aforementioned Tommy Reese, the Browns new offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 1: is scheduled to join. Just but how many years ago, seven, eight, nine,

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Speaker 1: maybe ten years ago he was getting ready for the combine.

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Speaker 1: Now he's here as the Browns OC And I'll be

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Speaker 1: better at math once I remember how old Tommy is.

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