1 00:00:30,319 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: Pats from the Past. Tune in is Matt Smith and 2 00:00:32,559 --> 00:00:35,119 Speaker 1: Paul Perillo offer in depth interviews with some of the 3 00:00:35,119 --> 00:00:38,039 Speaker 1: greatest players and coaches in New England Patriots history. Joined 4 00:00:38,039 --> 00:00:40,359 Speaker 1: by the newest member of the Patriots Hall Fame, Mike Raybold. 5 00:00:40,399 --> 00:00:42,439 Speaker 1: Find out what led to some of the greatest moments 6 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: in franchise history and unique behind the scenes insight. 7 00:00:45,239 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 2: And please to be joined by former Patriot quarterback Brian 8 00:00:47,918 --> 00:00:50,439 Speaker 2: coy Or. Joined by number thirty seven on your scorecard, 9 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,119 Speaker 2: but number one in our hearts at least, Rodney Harrison. 10 00:00:53,439 --> 00:00:55,999 Speaker 2: Good to be home. Good to see you guys. 11 00:00:55,759 --> 00:00:58,479 Speaker 1: Search for Pats in the Past anywhere you get your podcast. 12 00:01:00,639 --> 00:01:05,438 Speaker 2: Good evening, all right, never mind, take it back. Yeah, 13 00:01:05,479 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 2: I kind of sound like a broken record standing up here, 14 00:01:07,479 --> 00:01:09,919 Speaker 2: you know, just being disappointed after a performance like that. 15 00:01:10,719 --> 00:01:12,359 Speaker 2: We had to do better. You look at the stats. 16 00:01:12,399 --> 00:01:13,919 Speaker 2: You know, they had three hundred and eighty nine yards, 17 00:01:13,919 --> 00:01:16,678 Speaker 2: We had three hundred eleven. The running game, you know, 18 00:01:16,759 --> 00:01:18,639 Speaker 2: once again we give up a big run play that 19 00:01:18,719 --> 00:01:21,518 Speaker 2: really hurts us and really skews the rest of the stats. 20 00:01:21,559 --> 00:01:24,078 Speaker 2: I would say a third down just in general. You know, 21 00:01:24,119 --> 00:01:26,838 Speaker 2: we were oer for on third down and they were 22 00:01:26,878 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 2: probably around seventy percent on third down, So you know 23 00:01:29,878 --> 00:01:32,079 Speaker 2: when you talk about extending plays, I mean, that's what 24 00:01:32,119 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 2: it is. And then really defensively not showing up in 25 00:01:34,159 --> 00:01:35,599 Speaker 2: the red area. Those guys were three for four in 26 00:01:35,599 --> 00:01:38,158 Speaker 2: the red area and those are definitely Look, we've spent 27 00:01:38,199 --> 00:01:39,878 Speaker 2: a lot of time on it. Those are definitely it's 28 00:01:39,879 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 2: definitely an important part of the field and we just 29 00:01:42,199 --> 00:01:44,999 Speaker 2: didn't do it well enough. Again, turnovers, turnovers. There are 30 00:01:44,999 --> 00:01:46,639 Speaker 2: a couple of balls on the ground. They got one. 31 00:01:47,479 --> 00:01:49,439 Speaker 2: But again, I mean, it's what we put on film. 32 00:01:49,519 --> 00:01:50,959 Speaker 2: So you know, at the end of the day, we 33 00:01:50,999 --> 00:01:53,559 Speaker 2: are what we put on film. We are what our 34 00:01:53,599 --> 00:01:57,399 Speaker 2: record is, you know, penalties, you know, kind of getting that, 35 00:01:57,559 --> 00:01:59,519 Speaker 2: you know again, kind of sets us back on some 36 00:01:59,559 --> 00:02:04,279 Speaker 2: of these drives where we're really making headway during the series. 37 00:02:04,319 --> 00:02:06,199 Speaker 2: I will say, look, today we won the corn Toss. 38 00:02:06,199 --> 00:02:07,519 Speaker 2: I thought the best thing to do for us was 39 00:02:07,519 --> 00:02:09,159 Speaker 2: to put the offense out there. I thought it was 40 00:02:09,199 --> 00:02:11,279 Speaker 2: an opportunity for us to go out there and start fast, 41 00:02:11,918 --> 00:02:14,478 Speaker 2: which it was. Unfortunately, you know, we walked away with 42 00:02:14,519 --> 00:02:16,279 Speaker 2: no points on the missfield goal, But that was my 43 00:02:16,399 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 2: thinking on that. You know, I told the guys in 44 00:02:19,399 --> 00:02:22,198 Speaker 2: there kind of the same thing. I'm telling you. It's 45 00:02:22,199 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 2: like we all got to take accountability, and what does 46 00:02:23,918 --> 00:02:26,479 Speaker 2: that look like. Accountability is not really you know, the 47 00:02:26,559 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 2: my bad. The accountability isn't coming in saying things like 48 00:02:30,279 --> 00:02:32,119 Speaker 2: you know, oh if we would have just did X, 49 00:02:32,239 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 2: Y and Z, like we've been talking about that all year. 50 00:02:34,119 --> 00:02:36,999 Speaker 2: Accountability is going out and correcting it. And that's about action. 51 00:02:37,279 --> 00:02:39,159 Speaker 2: It's not about just sitting here saying, you know, that's 52 00:02:39,199 --> 00:02:41,399 Speaker 2: my fault, my fault. You have enough of those and 53 00:02:41,439 --> 00:02:43,559 Speaker 2: that's what you have out there on the field today. 54 00:02:44,319 --> 00:02:48,199 Speaker 2: Fireway to run coming off the buy and then the 55 00:02:48,239 --> 00:02:50,439 Speaker 2: first offensive series, you guys moving the ball, get the 56 00:02:50,439 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 2: holding pedals. In the second when you. 57 00:02:51,839 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 1: Get the sack. How frustrating he is to see the 58 00:02:54,279 --> 00:02:55,679 Speaker 1: same mistakes over and over. 59 00:02:55,799 --> 00:02:58,159 Speaker 2: It's very frustrating. It's very frustrating, and we're not a 60 00:02:58,159 --> 00:03:00,279 Speaker 2: good enough football team to be able to go backwards 61 00:03:00,279 --> 00:03:03,159 Speaker 2: and overcome you know, those long yarded situations as we've 62 00:03:03,159 --> 00:03:03,879 Speaker 2: seen all season. 63 00:03:04,119 --> 00:03:06,439 Speaker 1: Oh Andy, thoughts on them going for it on fourth 64 00:03:06,439 --> 00:03:07,078 Speaker 1: and six. 65 00:03:06,879 --> 00:03:09,399 Speaker 2: On that first ride, Yeah, there were definitely thoughts on 66 00:03:09,479 --> 00:03:12,159 Speaker 2: going forward on fourth down. You know, we're lucky not 67 00:03:12,199 --> 00:03:14,719 Speaker 2: to so trouble was the explain explanation that if they 68 00:03:14,758 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 2: gave one to you know, the hit on Kyle, it 69 00:03:16,079 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 2: looks like he became a runner. Yeah, smaller guy Dutch down, 70 00:03:20,159 --> 00:03:22,279 Speaker 2: Jenny's kind of gets sied up with him. Yeah, they 71 00:03:22,359 --> 00:03:24,719 Speaker 2: just told me that, you know, even though he is 72 00:03:24,758 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 2: a runner at that they still have some of that 73 00:03:26,439 --> 00:03:29,159 Speaker 2: protection as far as hits of the head. So they 74 00:03:29,159 --> 00:03:31,358 Speaker 2: said Jennings ad in the head and they called it. 75 00:03:31,519 --> 00:03:33,559 Speaker 1: Got to live with it in the first half seeing yeah, 76 00:03:33,559 --> 00:03:35,399 Speaker 1: did some play Colin was a little conservative. Was that 77 00:03:35,599 --> 00:03:38,958 Speaker 1: part of the game plan or is that a result of. 78 00:03:38,559 --> 00:03:40,439 Speaker 2: Not at all? I thought we were able to run 79 00:03:40,479 --> 00:03:42,199 Speaker 2: the ball. I told these guys going into the game, like, 80 00:03:42,239 --> 00:03:43,479 Speaker 2: we got to be able to run the ball for 81 00:03:43,519 --> 00:03:45,519 Speaker 2: four quarters. But you know, at the same time, we 82 00:03:45,559 --> 00:03:46,959 Speaker 2: got to get open, we got to catch the ball, 83 00:03:46,959 --> 00:03:48,359 Speaker 2: we got to make the throws, we got to block 84 00:03:48,359 --> 00:03:49,958 Speaker 2: the guys up front, and we got to run the ball. 85 00:03:49,999 --> 00:03:52,119 Speaker 2: Like those are fundamental things. And this is why I 86 00:03:52,159 --> 00:03:54,279 Speaker 2: always go back to, like the excess and o's are 87 00:03:54,399 --> 00:03:56,359 Speaker 2: one thing, and we're all pretty confident as far as 88 00:03:56,439 --> 00:03:58,519 Speaker 2: ex's and no's are concerned. But going out there and 89 00:03:58,559 --> 00:04:00,239 Speaker 2: executing a play. It takes a lot, and we just 90 00:04:00,239 --> 00:04:02,679 Speaker 2: weren't able to do that on a consistent basis. What 91 00:04:02,719 --> 00:04:05,439 Speaker 2: did you see on the short yardage two plays that 92 00:04:05,559 --> 00:04:06,799 Speaker 2: we couldn't get the yard? 93 00:04:06,799 --> 00:04:09,399 Speaker 1: Half yard? And did you have a conversation with Alex 94 00:04:09,839 --> 00:04:10,759 Speaker 1: around work down? 95 00:04:11,359 --> 00:04:13,119 Speaker 2: It was very I mean it was disappointing, you know, 96 00:04:13,359 --> 00:04:15,639 Speaker 2: I said this. You know, I think probably the first 97 00:04:15,679 --> 00:04:17,439 Speaker 2: week of the season. There comes a point in time 98 00:04:17,479 --> 00:04:19,679 Speaker 2: as a football team where everyone in the stadium knows 99 00:04:19,719 --> 00:04:21,519 Speaker 2: what the play is and we just got to move 100 00:04:21,558 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 2: bodies and we weren't able to do that. 101 00:04:25,639 --> 00:04:27,079 Speaker 1: Do you feel like you've you've shown. 102 00:04:26,879 --> 00:04:29,079 Speaker 2: That you can be that kind of team. So we 103 00:04:29,119 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 2: have some guys we have got in there. They are 104 00:04:30,719 --> 00:04:33,638 Speaker 2: physically tough, mentally tough, and you know, my expectation for 105 00:04:33,678 --> 00:04:35,638 Speaker 2: them is that we always gonna move bodies. Unfortunately we 106 00:04:35,639 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 2: didn't do that today. 107 00:04:36,359 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: You consider running drinking that situation that it's a short 108 00:04:39,359 --> 00:04:40,079 Speaker 1: yard situation. 109 00:04:40,199 --> 00:04:43,959 Speaker 2: You know he can run, that's you said it. I didn't. 110 00:04:44,519 --> 00:04:47,878 Speaker 1: You've obviously talked about your running game, but then running 111 00:04:47,879 --> 00:04:49,878 Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty three, what what is it that 112 00:04:49,919 --> 00:04:52,718 Speaker 1: you're seeing with the lack of run defense on your team. 113 00:04:53,078 --> 00:04:55,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just you know, the big run was the 114 00:04:55,558 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 2: big run. I mean we had people there to make 115 00:04:57,318 --> 00:04:59,319 Speaker 2: the play. I don't know if you guys saw it 116 00:04:59,318 --> 00:05:00,878 Speaker 2: that way. We had guys there to make a tackle. 117 00:05:00,919 --> 00:05:02,519 Speaker 2: We just didn't come up with it. And this is 118 00:05:02,558 --> 00:05:04,878 Speaker 2: why I continue to go back to This game is 119 00:05:04,879 --> 00:05:07,439 Speaker 2: about fundamentals and tackling being a major one. There. 120 00:05:08,359 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 1: First question, just now, you said you said I didn't. 121 00:05:10,759 --> 00:05:13,679 Speaker 2: So was that I was gonna decision. It's all, It's 122 00:05:13,719 --> 00:05:17,239 Speaker 2: always my decision. I would say, look, the quarterback obviously 123 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,679 Speaker 2: has you know, a good pair of legs and does 124 00:05:19,678 --> 00:05:21,198 Speaker 2: a good job running the ball. We just chose not 125 00:05:21,198 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 2: to do it there. 126 00:05:23,759 --> 00:05:25,999 Speaker 1: Why do you think the offensive line playing the way 127 00:05:25,999 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: it didn't early? 128 00:05:28,039 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 2: I gotta watch the film, I would say, you know, 129 00:05:29,799 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 2: just from on the sideline and seeing the clips on 130 00:05:31,519 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 2: the Jumbo Tron, we had a hard time, especially inside 131 00:05:34,438 --> 00:05:36,759 Speaker 2: the one sack on I think it was on low. 132 00:05:37,519 --> 00:05:39,319 Speaker 2: The defensive end got a good jump on that and 133 00:05:39,519 --> 00:05:42,758 Speaker 2: ran the hump. So I thought inside, just from once 134 00:05:42,799 --> 00:05:45,799 Speaker 2: again not watching the film, I thought inside, we definitely 135 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,518 Speaker 2: let some leakage come through. Your final question, you guys 136 00:05:48,599 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 2: did defensively today. 137 00:05:49,719 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: I hope that Christian had a good game, but otherwise, obviously. 138 00:05:53,678 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 2: Again just not good enough. 139 00:05:56,078 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 1: Patriots Playbook join John Rook as he brings you all 140 00:05:58,919 --> 00:06:02,319 Speaker 1: the latest Patriots Talk an expert commentary direct from Patriots HQ. 141 00:06:02,999 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 1: The show features interviews with New England and Opponent Beat 142 00:06:05,359 --> 00:06:07,439 Speaker 1: writers that bring you a unique media view of the 143 00:06:07,438 --> 00:06:09,638 Speaker 1: state of the team. But where the Patriots are concerned, 144 00:06:09,879 --> 00:06:12,198 Speaker 1: Let's just get one thing done, and let's get it 145 00:06:12,239 --> 00:06:15,399 Speaker 1: done right and then we can worry about versatility. Am 146 00:06:15,438 --> 00:06:18,118 Speaker 1: I whying to anybody here? Let's just get one thing done. 147 00:06:18,239 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 1: Let's get one thing done right, and then we can 148 00:06:20,999 --> 00:06:23,759 Speaker 1: move along. That's kind of my biggest thing. Search Patriots 149 00:06:23,799 --> 00:06:25,639 Speaker 1: Playbook anywhere you get your podcast.