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Speaker 1: Welcome to this country Life. I'm your host, Brent Reeves.

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Speaker 1: From coon hunting to trot lining and just general country living.

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Speaker 1: I want you to stay a while as I share

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Speaker 1: my stories and the country skills that will help you

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Speaker 1: beat the system. This Country Life is proudly presented as

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Speaker 1: part of Meat Eaters Podcast Network, bringing you the best

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Speaker 1: outdoor podcast the airways have to offer. All right, friends,

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Speaker 1: pull you up a chair or drop that tailgate. I

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Speaker 1: think I got a thing or two the teacher duck

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Speaker 1: camp etiquette. It's summertime, so naturally we're going to be

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Speaker 1: talking about cold weather. Really, it's getting close to the

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Speaker 1: time when you plan your duck hunting trips. And if

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Speaker 1: you're using an outfitter, I think you'll get some good

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Speaker 1: there'll be some stuff in here you can apply to

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Speaker 1: just the out anything. Y'all get ready for some duck

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Speaker 1: camp etiquette. And I ain't talking about the kind of

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Speaker 1: etiquette that suppresses your inner cave man and keeps you

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Speaker 1: from reaching across the table and snatching up the last

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Speaker 1: biscuit out of the bowl just because you still got

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Speaker 1: some sopping to do. I'm talking about the kind of

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Speaker 1: etiquette that helps you get along with folks you may

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Speaker 1: have never hunted with, maybe in a place you've never

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Speaker 1: hunted before. And since I know a little bit about

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Speaker 1: the guiding business, we're going to talk about how that

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Speaker 1: all applies to duck hunt. What clothes do I need?

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Speaker 1: Can I call to Can I bring my dog? But first,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you a story. It was late

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Speaker 1: when I got to the duck camp that night. I've

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Speaker 1: been working with some other agents at my regular job

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Speaker 1: so I didn't get to leave when I planned to,

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Speaker 1: and it was way after midnight when I came rolling in.

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Speaker 1: My brother Tim and I owned and operated Southern Waterfowler's

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Speaker 1: Guide Service near the small community of Raydale, which was

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Speaker 1: located thirty minutes due south of Stuttgart and on the

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Speaker 1: banks of the Arkansas River, right in the heart of

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Speaker 1: Arkansas's world famous green timber duck hunting. Tim had got

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Speaker 1: there as planned and had everything ready for our guests

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Speaker 1: when they arrived early that afternoon. They done had supper

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Speaker 1: and he explained to them that because of my job

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Speaker 1: got ready. The next morning, before we all left out

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Speaker 1: The kitchen was next to the living room and separated

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Speaker 1: dodging a chair in a footstool, trying not to wake

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Speaker 1: that's just how that happened. Lots of questions should come

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Speaker 1: been running a camera on a few outfitted bear hunts

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Speaker 1: was there to film, and everybody knows that in outdoor media,

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Speaker 1: if it didn't happen on film, it didn't happen at all.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm going to talk about coming to the duck camp,

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Speaker 1: but you can apply a lot of this to just

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Speaker 1: outfitters themselves. Keeping an open line of communication between y'all

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Speaker 1: they needed to ride from the airport. Having been in

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Speaker 1: I've looked at several websites for different species of game

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Speaker 1: contact number or email addressed for questions. So if you

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Speaker 1: that is. Which reminds me of a story we had

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Speaker 1: some foaks from Wisconsin book a hunt with us that

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Speaker 1: Now I never think about those boys at Green Bay, Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: That I don't hear John Facinda, the narrator of NFL films,

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns, not the Green Bay Packers. But back

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Speaker 1: I don't really care to hear everybody that lives up

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Speaker 1: there for that very reason. But apparently these boys had

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Speaker 1: and Jeremiah Johnson. Now, in their defense, not everyone had

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Speaker 1: we kill some ducks. So what does that tell you?

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Speaker 1: Ask your outfitter and come prepared. Every state that I've

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Speaker 1: at me while I did it. The difference between me

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Speaker 1: and the cheeseheads because I asked, what about calling? What

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Speaker 1: about calling? I'll tell you about call. Calling ducks into

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Speaker 1: closest thing I'll ever know of what it was like

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Speaker 1: to be Elvis telling your hunters to be still, get ready,

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Speaker 1: the decoys. Feels as good as when Yo Mama hugs you.

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Speaker 1: I started calling at an early age under the mendership

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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, they're hanging within arm's reach

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Speaker 1: where I'm sitting right now into a duck hunter. It

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Speaker 1: far surpasses the enjoyment of shooting them in my eyes.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know anyone that likes to bust a

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Speaker 1: It's a wondrous thing, and everyone wants to do it,

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Speaker 1: but not everyone wants to put in the work to

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Speaker 1: be good, or they just don't know how to be good.

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Speaker 1: The old saying of practice makes perfect that ain't correct

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Speaker 1: power perfect practice makes perfect. If your practice is jacked up,

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Speaker 1: your duck calling will be too. Now, we had a

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Speaker 1: much for listening. Remember educate yourself on watching plan is,

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