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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford and he is my trusted colleague,

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Speaker 1: Wes Hodko. It's we're coming to you here from our

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Speaker 1: studios at lambeau Field and West. O t A s

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Speaker 1: O t A stands for Organized Team Activity. It's just

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Speaker 1: a fancy phrase or acronym, whatever you wanna call it

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Speaker 1: for a spring practice in the NFL, which is no pads,

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Speaker 1: helmets and shorts. Um. Really, what it boils down to

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Speaker 1: is the Packers using the next few weeks to install

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Speaker 1: their playbooks on offense and defense, which makes this set

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Speaker 1: of O t A sessions not quite your garden variety

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Speaker 1: annual O t A s Because the Packers have brand

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Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator, brand new defensive coordinator. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of work to be done, a lot of change, even

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Speaker 1: for the veteran players who are coming back with what

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Speaker 1: they need to learn. Yeah, I mean, and I think

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Speaker 1: this is a really interesting year because you have guys

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Speaker 1: new playbook for the first time in their career after

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Speaker 1: working solely and Dom's Caper system for being the better

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Speaker 1: part of nine years. So yeah, it's always interesting. There's

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Speaker 1: always some small minor tweaks that you notice, whether it's

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Speaker 1: how players are utilized or you know, just changes that

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Speaker 1: The thing I guess I look for the most in

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Speaker 1: So in some ways this is sort of like an

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Speaker 1: exaggerated walk through, but at the same time, you're getting

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Speaker 1: now with the veterans and having to catch up to

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Speaker 1: speed the veterans in this particular instance, both on offense

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Speaker 1: with Joe Philbin now back his offensive coordinator and with

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Speaker 1: be asked of them in the scheme, Jimmy Graham coming

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Speaker 1: ninety man roster. And if people are wondering just how

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Speaker 1: how okay, So how do you go about installing a playbook? Like,

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Speaker 1: what does that mean? Well, it's about breaking down the

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Speaker 1: playbook into the different segments, and the different segments being

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Speaker 1: the different situations that are part of a football game.

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Speaker 1: That's really the best way I can describe it. And

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Speaker 1: what I mean by that is you have your what

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Speaker 1: of football is all about situations, third downs, red zone,

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Speaker 1: all about the playbook has a certain set of situations

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Speaker 1: As you said, it's kind of an exaggerated walkthrough, although

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Speaker 1: and you've got guys that you know you're hoping for

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Speaker 1: at this point, and Mike McCarthy talked about it is

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Speaker 1: in this chair, West hodk wits in that one. So okay, West.

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Speaker 1: The Packers have three weeks worth of O T A

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Speaker 1: if you think about it, Mike, the Packers had four

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Speaker 1: But I think that that competition, seeing how all those

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Speaker 1: And as much as is going to potentially be written

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Speaker 1: so we'll be talking about this as we go through.

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Speaker 1: Let's go dozens of inbox entries that we've rereading, speculating

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Speaker 1: be nothing what we anticipated to be. That is always

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Speaker 1: the most important, important and fun part of the office. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all the changes and what changes and what we haven't

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Speaker 1: expressed will certainly express on this show. So with that

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Speaker 1: we'll sign off on Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow

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Speaker 1: all of our coverage of the team on Packers dot

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Speaker 1: com on Twitter. He's at West Hot, I'm at Mike

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