1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Stay right here for our final news round up and 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: information overload. Right News round Up, Information overload, our gladuate 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,319 Speaker 1: with US eight hundred and nine for one Sean is 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: our number if you want to be a part of 5 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: the program. You know, one of the things Jim Jordan's committee, 6 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: the Judiciary Committee, is looking into is whether or not 7 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: the FBI has been politicized and whether the DOJ is 8 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: being weaponized. Now I know this case. We keep reading 9 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: day after day after day that an indictment in New 10 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: York against former President Donald Trump seems fairly imminent according 11 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: to sources left right, sideways, the New York Times, here, there, 12 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: and everywhere. And this was a case that was dismissed 13 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: pretty much on the federal level. This was a case 14 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: that even the prior ag Cyrus Vans passed on. This 15 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: is now seven years later, you know, like for example, 16 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: Latitia James brought this case against the Trump Company, etc. Etc. 17 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: But remember what she said when she was running for office, 18 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: because to me, justice should be blind. I will never 19 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:15,199 Speaker 1: be afraid to challenge this illegitimate president when our fundamental 20 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: rights are at state. I believe that the president of 21 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: these United States can be indicted for criminal offenses. We're 22 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: going to be a real patent, that man in the 23 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: White House who can't go a day without threatening our 24 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: fundamental rights. Yes, we need to focus on Donald Trump 25 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: and his abuses. We need to follow his money. We 26 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: need to find out where he's laundered money. We need 27 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: to find out whether or not he's engaged in conspiracy. 28 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: And that is somebody running to go against the one man, 29 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: one family, one organization. That scares me a little bit, 30 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: scares me a lot. Dan Abrams had a good piece 31 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: on media today about this very issue. He said it 32 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: would be a big mistake, both legally and politically, to 33 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: indict former President Trump over the Stormy Daniels quote hush 34 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: money scandal. This is what he said. He said the 35 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 1: law that Trump allegedly violated his quote a misdemeanor, potentially 36 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: charging the former president for an incident that occurred almost 37 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: seven years ago. It's minor stuff, falsifying business records by 38 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: claiming that the one hundred and thirty thousand dollars payoff 39 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: to Daniels for keeping or quiet about their affair was 40 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: actually legal expenses. He said, Now the DA may try 41 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: to elevate the crime to a felony by claiming the 42 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 1: intent to defraud included an intent to commit or conceal 43 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: a second crime, and that one being a violation of 44 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: New York state election law. They would argue that the 45 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: payoff was done to protect the campaign and effectively became 46 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 1: an improper donation, he said, Putting aside how long ago 47 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: this happened, he said, put aside the fact that the 48 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: Manhattan DA's office under a different DA examined the case 49 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen and decided not to move forward with it. 50 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: Putting aside the fact that the new DA, Alvin Bragg, 51 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: was in office for over a year before he seemed 52 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: to suddenly become interested in this old case. Put aside 53 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: that it would also be really hard, a really hard 54 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: legal case. The effort at making it a felony would 55 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: be a novel legal theory, and proving that the payment 56 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: was made for the purposes of protecting the campaign as 57 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: opposed to say, protecting him from his wife Malania finding 58 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: out would be difficult. Joining us now as the President's 59 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: attorney on this case. And that's Joe Takapina's back of us. Joe, 60 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: thank you for being with us absolutely, And you know 61 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: what I listen what you just said. Abrams was writing 62 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: a lot of things, but but there's one thing that 63 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: needs to make clear. It's not a misdemeanor. It's not 64 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: a clime. You know, it's it's not like, oh, it's 65 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: a misdemeanor, and they're trying to elevate to a felony 66 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: by by cobbling together a couple of misdemeaners. There's no misdemeanor, 67 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: there's no crime. And that's what really makes this outrageous. 68 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: I mean, by pursuing this matter, this day's officers once 69 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: again weaponsize this office to influence the next presidential election period, 70 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: end of story. Are you convinced that these reports are real, 71 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: that they are planning to go forward with an indictment 72 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: of the former president? You know, we talked about this 73 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: last night. I mean, the reports are picking up steam. 74 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: It seems to be something that's becoming more realistic. But 75 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: I still believe somebody in that office is going to say, 76 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: like they have done before, like the United States Attorney's 77 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: Office has done, the federal prosecuts have done, that this 78 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: is a case that is untriable. You can't win this case. 79 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: It won't survive motions because there is no crime. There's 80 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: no I mean false. Explain exactly what you mean when 81 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: you say there's no crime. What does that mean? Nothing 82 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: was done wrong. Let's put it this way. Let's start 83 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: out with the basic fact that, first of all, campaign 84 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: financi laws are murky to begin with, and all the 85 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: underlying legal theories are on tests that have never been 86 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: utilized in this manner ever shown legal scholars. Most legal scholars, 87 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: including a lot of former members of the Federal Election Committee, 88 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: have publicly stated in the past that there is no 89 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: campaign law violation. Any good prosecutor knows that you can't 90 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: bring a criminal case when the laws unclear, because you 91 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: need to show intend to commit a crime, and you 92 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: can't show intent. Even when legal scholars agree, you can't 93 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: agree on with the laws. Now, here's the thing, here's 94 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: the crucial distinction this two in this case one. First 95 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: of all, let's let's start out with this basic fact. 96 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: Donald Trump was an extortion victim. Okay, when someone says, 97 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be Donald Trump. When someone says, 98 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: I am going to go forward. Now he adamantly denies 99 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 1: this affair ever happened. I believe him. I think the 100 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: evidence is clear on that, okay. But that being said, 101 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: it's regardless of whether it did or didn't happen. If 102 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: someone says you give me money or I'm going to 103 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: go to the press and say these bad things about you, 104 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: true or not true, it doesn't matter. And that that 105 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: was said by Stormy Daniels, you're saying to him, and 106 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: that's it was, and that's you know, on the heels 107 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: of the election, this happened. So Donald Trump followed his 108 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 1: advice as counsel's advice at the time. You know, Michael 109 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: going not knowing what a what a really treacherous dog 110 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: he was, and urger and a lawyer he was, but 111 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: followed his lawyer's advice, which is just make this go away. 112 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: It's a nuisance settlement. It's you know, nothing to him, 113 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: and then then she'll shut up. You know. That's what 114 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: he did. He follows his lawyer's advice. He did that. 115 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: And he was a victim of extortion because that is 116 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: black let a law when someone does that. But he 117 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: paid it off just to prevent, as Michael Cohen said 118 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: in his plea allocution, embarrassment to himself and his family. 119 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: So the fact that it's embarrassment to himself and his family. 120 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 1: Makes this not a crime. And here's what I mean. 121 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: So his own lawyer said that already, and he's on 122 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: record as saying that he played guilty when his lawyer 123 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: played guilty to something that wasn't even a crime, by 124 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: the way, this idiot, when he pled guilty, Michael Cohen, 125 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: he said that on the record, the elocution was that 126 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: he did it to influence the election and to prevent 127 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: embarrassment to himself and to his family. When you say that, 128 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: those last words mean everything, because personally use funds when 129 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: spending money to fulfill any commitment, obligation, or expense of 130 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: a person that would hear the key word exist irrespective 131 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: of the campaign. It takes it out of the election. 132 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: So this goes to the answer. I watched you on 133 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: George Stephanopolas yesterday and he asked you three questions. Did 134 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: Trump authorize the payments to Storey Daniel? Two? Was the 135 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: payment properly recorded? Three? Was it connected to the election? 136 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: And you're saying that his own lawyer, which I assume 137 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: would be the prime witness in this case, that that 138 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: that the lawyer himself acknowledges that it was to protect 139 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: against embarrassment for himself, his family on the on the record, 140 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: which why you cannot bring this case. So then what 141 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: is the law. What is the law under which they're 142 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: going to bring this case. I'm trying to understand that, Well, 143 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: join the party, show joy, join the party. We're all 144 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: trying to understand that. It doesn't make sense they're going 145 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: to trump up maybe some false record keeping. There's unless 146 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: it's tied to an election or a tax purpose or 147 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: a campaign violation. There's You could write what you want 148 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: in your own personal checkbook. You could buy a car 149 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: and rite I bore a horse in your personal checkbook. 150 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: It's not a sense, not a crime. You can write 151 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: whatever you want to cover it up from your your 152 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: your brother or your sister, your wife, it doesn't matter. 153 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: It's not a crime. Or you could just write you 154 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: know or something wrong in your personal ledger. It doesn't 155 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: make it a crime. Unless we're kicking into the election laws. 156 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: Here and here, the campaign finance laws make it very 157 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: clear that if something was paid and that obligation existed 158 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: irrespective of the campaign, it is not a campaign law 159 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: violation period. End of story. This was paid with his 160 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: personal funds, not campaign funds. It clearly had nothing to 161 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: do with anything other than protecting himself, in his family 162 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: and his young son Baron from embarrassment. And that's what 163 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: makes this even more sick, to be honest with you, 164 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: For three years, this DA's officers scoured every aspect of 165 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: president from his personal life and business affairs going back decades, 166 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: and hopes of finding some legal basis, however far fetched, 167 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: novel or convoluted to prosecute him. Okay, these actions constitute 168 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: prosecut miscontexts. I wrote on my letter to the Department 169 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: of Investigation. I've asked the Department of Investigation to investigate 170 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: this DA and this DA's office. It's an abusive power 171 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: and shown it's purely Unamerican. We do not do this 172 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 1: in this country. We never did this southern country. I mean, 173 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: government officials should not be stretching laws beyond their normal 174 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: meaning to get people just because they don't like these people, 175 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: or because they want to get a nice scout, or 176 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: in this case, because they want to influence the next 177 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: presidential election. It's despicable. It shouldn't happen. Is this where 178 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: we are? Is this really where we're at now as 179 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: a country? All right, quick, break more with President Trump's attorney, 180 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: Joe Takapina in the New York case reports a widespread 181 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: that possible indictment as it relates to the Stormy Daniels issue. 182 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 1: Will continue more with Joe on the other side, straight 183 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: ahead at nine pm. Do you know where your president is? Yep, 184 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: he sounded asleep with a lot of care in the world. 185 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: Must be nice, Joe. The rest of us will keep 186 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: working York on the sewn Edy Show. Are we continue 187 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: with President Trump's attorney all these reports that they're possibly 188 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: in New York might be an indictment imminent against the 189 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: former president as it relates to the Stormy Daniel's case. 190 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 1: Let me read it was picked up by MSN. It 191 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: originated in the Washington Post, and the headline itself is interesting, 192 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: but when you get into the meat of the article, 193 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: it's even more interesting. It says prosecuting Trump for Stormy 194 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: Daniel's money would include hurdles according to experts, and at 195 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: one point it says that if Bragg seeks to charge 196 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: the former president, a move that appears likely based on 197 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: his recent invitation for Trump to appear before the grand jury, 198 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: he will face several potential hurdles according to legal analysts. 199 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 1: They said it would be unusual for a state prosecutor 200 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: to use an alleged violation of a federal law rather 201 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: than a state campaign finance law, has grounds to elevate 202 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: a false paperwork case from a misdemeanor to a felony. 203 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: We're back to that part again. I don't want to 204 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: ask you about it, but it would also be unusual 205 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: to prosecute a presidential candidate for violating state as opposed 206 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: to federal campaign finance laws. So that argument keeps coming 207 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: up that that's what their argument is going to be. 208 00:11:56,280 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: But you're arguing, what there's those state violation neither. There's 209 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: no misdemeanor violation. There's no crime he literally did. I'm 210 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: telling you there is no violation of any criminal statute, misdemeanor, felony, state, federal, 211 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: you know, statutes from from by don't know, Jupiter, There's 212 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: no violation of any statute. I have them all in 213 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: front of me, I've studied them all myself and Susan Nicklas, 214 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: who's you know, been running lead on this case. And 215 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: then speak with the DA's office. There is nothing there is, Well, 216 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: what are they indicating to you, because usually there are 217 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: a lot of conversations that go back and forth between 218 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 1: das and defense attorneys. What are they indicating to you 219 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: that they're looking at the hardest at or or is 220 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: there anything else that they're looking at. They've been very vague, 221 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 1: and again this with Susan, but they've been very vague. 222 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: And it all has to do with hush money payments. 223 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: So it is only this, you know, I mean, people like, oh, 224 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: it has to be something more, it has to be No, 225 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: it's not. And the funny part about this is even 226 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: Mark Promer, It's the guy who who violated every ethical 227 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: consideration when he was appointed prosecutor and decided to resign 228 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: because there were prosecuting Trump and he decided he's gonna 229 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: quit instead write a book. Is this the guy that 230 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: wrote a book? Okay, wrote a book in violation of 231 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: New York State penal code. Okay, because any information received 232 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: from the guard injury, which he signed a document acknowledging 233 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 1: that the information was gonna get was going to come 234 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: from a grandary investigation. By the way, are you gonna 235 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: are you gonna go after him on that allegation? But 236 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,839 Speaker 1: but we've already I've already sent the letter to the 237 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: New York State Bar to Gavin Disbard. Um, I've asked 238 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: Alan Braid to if you know, Alan brags always want 239 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: to say there is one standard for all. Well, if 240 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 1: there's one standard for ROLL, makes one standard for all, 241 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: including Mark Palmerz. He should be prosecuting him. He violated 242 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: that officers trust. So it shouldna be one standard for ROLL, 243 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: but one standard for ROLL except for Donald Trump. It 244 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: should be one standard for all. I'd asked the DA 245 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: to prosecute him. I've asked the deal why to investigate 246 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: the DA's office. I've asked the bar to disbar him. Um, 247 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 1: and and we're going after him. And what is the 248 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: law that he you think he violated? Oh, it's not, 249 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 1: it's not even I think it's clear he violated. And 250 00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: I said to my loved, there's a New York State 251 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: penal code law that's a felony. That is what's called 252 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: the grand jury secrecy laws. In other words, if you 253 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: reveal information gained from a grand jury subpoena or grand 254 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 1: jury investigation, which this is, to a third party, so 255 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: you've committed celony, Okay, and he's done it because that 256 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: grandjury is still sitting. It's still an open grand jury investigation. 257 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: As alam Alang went crazy and was complaining. Now, you know, 258 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: you would think that would give him pause to even 259 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: think about going forward here, but apparently not. And I 260 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: hope he's not stupid to that level. But here's the 261 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: thing about the Stormy Daniels hushmoney case. It was referred 262 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: to even in this guy's book that as a zombie 263 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: case because it kept coming back from the dead. He 264 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: said that they would trying to find any legal theory 265 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: to prosecute Trump. Do you want to stand how sick 266 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: that what I just said is they literally this guy 267 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: wrote in his book admitted it, which was shocking. That 268 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: book was actually one of the best things that ever 269 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: happened to President Trump. But he admitted in his book 270 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: that they took the person and they were trying to 271 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: find a crime, not that they had information of from 272 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: anality a complaint made and they were investigating the person 273 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: because they had information about a crime. They took the 274 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: person that he despised. This guy said, not only the 275 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: teller's wife. He wasn't going to get paid for being 276 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: a special prosecutor, leaving his big way job where he 277 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: was getting money. He actually said I would pay to 278 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: prosecute Donald Trump. I gotta, I gotta leave it there. 279 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: But um, we're gonna be watching in the days and 280 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: weeks ahead for sure, and following the case closely and 281 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: as things developed. We'd love to have you back on. 282 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: We appreciate you joining us Joe Takapina, President Donald Trump's 283 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: attorney on this New York issue. Thank you so much 284 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: as always for being with us. Appreciate it. Thank you. 285 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: You know you may not believe this, but home theft 286 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: is real, and you have these cyber thieves all around 287 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: the world and they're all targeting American homeowners. It's called 288 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: home title theft. And what they do is your your 289 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: home title is online, they find it. Then they'll afford 290 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: your signature on a transfer document and it will say 291 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: that you sold them your home. And then they take 292 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: out loans on your home with your equity, or they 293 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: sell it to an unsuspecting buyer, and they disappear. 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I 299 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: protect my home and my equity with home title Lock. 300 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: This is happening in numbers that will boggle your mind. 301 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: You've got to protect your home and Home title Lock 302 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: puts a virtual shield around your home's title, and the 303 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: instant they detect any activity or any tampering around your 304 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: home's title, they're gonna shut it down fast. All right. 305 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: First things first, when you sign up, you get a 306 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: free title scan to verify that your home is safely 307 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: in your name. If you mention my name Sean, when 308 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: you go to home title lock dot com, you'll get 309 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: thirty days three thirty three days of protection. That's home 310 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: titlelock dot com. Protect your home, protect your asset. So 311 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 1: it was about a year ago I'm honored to call 312 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 1: this man a friend and a colleague, that Benjamin Hall 313 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: had been reporting the beginnings of the war in Ukraine, 314 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: and this is not his first rodeo. He had covered 315 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: many conflicts, many wars around the world. And then, of course, 316 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: one day I got a call from a mutual friend 317 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: of ours that it looked like something very bad has 318 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: gone wrong and that that Benjamin Hall was hit. We 319 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 1: didn't know the extent of the injuries at that time, 320 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: and slowly over the days we began to understand the 321 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: severity of the injuries. He lost a leg, he lost 322 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: a foot, he severely damaged his left hand, partially or 323 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: mostly blind in one eye, now had shrapnel all over 324 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: the place. He was the only survivor. Three missiles were 325 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: fired at the car that he was in. And his 326 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: story and of heroism and courage and more importantly the 327 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 1: most infectious positive attitude is beyond inspiring ben Hall. Benjamin 328 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 1: Hall joins me, Now, how are you, sir Sean. I'm 329 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: doing really well. Thank you. It's as you said, it's 330 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 1: exactly one year to the day that has happened. So 331 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: it's a day where, you know, this morning I've had 332 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: to really think about everything that happened and then get 333 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 1: moving again, just get living again, make the most out 334 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: of it. So that's what we're doing. You know, I've 335 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: met a lot of people over the years with similar injuries, 336 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: especially men and women that have gone into battle and 337 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: conflict and they lose legs, or have they lose their arms, 338 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: or they lose their sight or they're burned over, you know, 339 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: sixty seventy eighty percent of their body. And I have 340 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 1: met some people that have not taken it as well 341 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 1: as you have. What do you attribute that too? The 342 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:04,239 Speaker 1: fact that you were able to psychologically, spiritually, you know, 343 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 1: sort of transcend what is the most difficult scenario, your 344 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: entire life turned upside down, and do it with such 345 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: a positive attitude. Yeah, you know, it's hard, Sean. I think, firstly, 346 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: I'm blessed with an optimistic spirit, and I knew very 347 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: early on within, you know, when I woke up after 348 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: those first initial operations and I was still stuck in 349 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: Kiev and had to find a way to get out 350 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: of the country, that there were two ways to look 351 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: at it. One was to bury it, to let it 352 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 1: get the better of you, and the other one was 353 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: to realize that every day from them was going to 354 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: be better than the last, That if I could move 355 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 1: a tiny little bit one day, I would move a 356 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: little bit further than next. That I had something really 357 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: amazing to fight for, and that was to get back 358 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: to my family, to hold my children again. That I 359 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: had been blessed to stay alive that day. You know, 360 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 1: the other four died, and I was in the one 361 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: middle seat of that car, the death seat, and somehow 362 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: I came out of it with my mind intact. My 363 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: body might be badly injured, but my mind is intact. 364 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: So I think I was blessed that day. And I 365 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: put all of those things together, and I realized that 366 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: if I don't make the most of every single day, 367 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 1: if I don't do it in the names of Pierre 368 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: and Sasha who died that day, then what a waste 369 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 1: life would be. And so that's what I think every 370 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: single morning to this day. When I wake up, I think, 371 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: let's channel that, let's make sure that today is a 372 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: better day than yesterday. Let's do more good today, and 373 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: we did yesterday. And I'm very lucky to have done that. 374 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 1: And might I also say that I was blessed to 375 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: be treated in military medicine. I was down to San 376 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 1: Antonio at Bamsey, and I was surrounded by other people 377 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: who had had similar injuries and talking to them every 378 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: single day, listening to the difficulties they had faced, talking 379 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: about how they got through it. So that helped me 380 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: a lot as well. So it was about the team 381 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: who was around me. It was talking to other people 382 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: who had gone through something similar, and it was about 383 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: fighting hard for what I believed in that got me 384 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: to where I am today. Let's talk about that day 385 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: when this whole went down and Pierre happened to be 386 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: a very close friend of yours. You told the story 387 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 1: when you were covering and you've covered wars in Syria 388 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: and Afghanistan and Iraq. You mean, you've been to a 389 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: lot of war zones, and one particular moment in Afghanistan, 390 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: you were both you know, watching the locals, you know, 391 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: riding their horses and you asked if you guys could 392 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 1: good ride them. I mean, you had a very close 393 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: relationship and you talked about, you know, in the midst 394 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: of you know, war, there are places of peace, and 395 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: that stuck with you. Pierre did lose his life that day. 396 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: Sasha did lose her life that day. And let's tell 397 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: everybody exactly what you remember in terms of, you know, 398 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: the first thing you heard was the whizzing of a 399 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: missile about to rain down on you. Yep, we had 400 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: just finished filming in an abandoned village, a demolished village, 401 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 1: one that had been almost flattened. We saw church totally destroyed, 402 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: schools all gone, and we were heading back into the 403 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 1: capital city of Kiev. We hadn't seen anyone in a 404 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: long time. It was abandoned. We pulled up at this 405 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 1: one empty check point and as we slowed down, out 406 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 1: of nowhere, right out of the sky came this missile 407 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: and we heard that with their pure and then right 408 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: in front of the car, maybe thirty feet the first 409 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 1: bomb hit and one of the trees that hit started 410 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: to fall over as well. There was a mad dash 411 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: to try and reverse the car to get out of 412 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 1: that situation, and a few seconds later the second one 413 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: hit right next to the car, right on the left 414 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: of the car, and that one was so close that 415 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 1: it I blacked out at that point. I suffered all 416 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: the facial injuries at that point, a shrapnel in the eye, 417 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: a big matchbox size in my throat, and I was 418 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: at that point gone. I mean, I was as close 419 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: to death as you can imagine. And I was totally 420 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,479 Speaker 1: black in a dark place, and it was into that 421 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,199 Speaker 1: dark place. It was into that moment. Then out of 422 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: nowhere came my daughter, My eldest daughter called on her 423 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: and she by the way, so people understand, because you 424 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: do have an accent. Your daughter's name is Honor, which 425 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 1: I love. I love that name all right. But so 426 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: you're when you say you're like blacked out, were you 427 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: conscious at all or were you just unconscious? Oh? I 428 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: was unconscious. I was. I'd be knocked out and been 429 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,719 Speaker 1: taking part of my skull out as well. So I 430 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,959 Speaker 1: was badly injured. But I saw my daughter and she 431 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: came to me and she said to me, Daddy, you've 432 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: got to get out of the car. And somehow it 433 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: came back to me. I came back to myself, and 434 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: I opened my eyes, and I immediately just reached for 435 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: the car door and I started to crawl towards the 436 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: car door. I got a couple of steps out of 437 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: the car and booed. The third one hit the car itself, 438 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: the third missile. So if if your daughter didn't come 439 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 1: to you and sort of wake you out of the darkness, 440 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 1: the state of unconsciousness. She's saying, Daddy, get out of 441 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: the car. You got out of the car. Had that 442 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 1: point had did you had you lost your leg, did 443 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: you had you lost your foot? Or did that happen 444 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: with the third blast? I happened with a third one. 445 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: So I'd taken two steps out of the car and 446 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: the third one hit and that threw me away. And 447 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: the next thing I know, I wake up and I'm 448 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: on fire. The leg's gone, and that's when I was 449 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: badly injured. But you know, Sasha and the two Ukrainians 450 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 1: hadn't got out of the car in the same way 451 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: that I was in the car, and they died in 452 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: the car. So my daughter coming to me in that moment, 453 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: my angel coming to me in that moment that brought 454 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: me back, that saved my life. Pierre had opened the 455 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: car door and he had managed to get out as well, 456 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: so he also allowed saved my life by giving me 457 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: that path out. So I look back at that moment, 458 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: I'd know that I was saved. I was absolutely blessed, 459 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: and that's one of the reasons I feel strong today. 460 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: But I woke up on fire. I had to put 461 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: all the flames out. I was rolling around on the 462 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: floor and trying to hit what was left of my legs. 463 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,479 Speaker 1: And it then took about forty minutes till we were found, 464 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: no cell phone reception in the area, no way of 465 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: telling anyone we had been hit, and sat there just 466 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: very badly injured, trying to think how am I going 467 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 1: to survive? How will I get home? And the way 468 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: I what it is that I would crawl if I 469 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: had to, I would crawl to get home to my family, 470 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: no matter what it took. And in the end, I 471 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: did crawl. I crawled for a little bit to reach 472 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 1: up to a car that we had seen passing. And 473 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: finally that car came back and I was closer, and 474 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: I threw rocks at it and dirt at it, and 475 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: I waved as best as I could, and that was 476 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 1: the moment that I was finally saved. But those forty 477 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 1: minutes were the forty minutes that changed my life, which 478 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 1: I learned an awful lot about myself. And again I 479 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: used those everything I learned then every day to get 480 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: through this. Let me ask you this, at that moment, 481 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 1: when you're looking at the severity of the injuries and 482 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: a leg that I'm sure you knew at that point 483 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: was gone, and a foot that is likely gone, and 484 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 1: all the other injuries you sustain psychologically, how do you 485 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: deal with that? How did you stop the bleeding? How 486 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: did you not bleed out in a situation like that? 487 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: You know, I was very lucky. I wasn't feeling pain 488 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 1: at the beginning. The adrenaline was rushing. I was looking 489 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: at my legs. I knew I was really badly injured, 490 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,479 Speaker 1: but I didn't feel it. I was so hyped up. 491 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: And it was towards the end that I knew I 492 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 1: had to be saved. I knew how badly injured I was. 493 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: Bet if some of the veins had been quarterized as 494 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: well burnt shut. So that kept me going as well. 495 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: I mean, really lucky. And it was only when I 496 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: was finally found and the soldier who found me grabbed 497 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: hold of me and pulled me towards his van that 498 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 1: I suddenly felt all the pain. And I think that's 499 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: where a lot of the skin that had been burned 500 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: badly burnt, just kind of peeled off. And so that 501 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: was the first pain I felt then, and in the 502 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: next couple of days when we were trying to evacuate 503 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: from the country with the hardest parts. Now, I can't 504 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: go into all the details of all of this, but 505 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: a series of events then were unfolding where you were 506 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: able to get into a you got into a hospital, 507 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: one doctor that saved your other leg. You told that story, 508 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: but then the effort to get you out of Ukraine 509 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: and into Poland was very, very difficult. There was the 510 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: Prime Minister of Poland, you know, was getting on a train. 511 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 1: They offered you a spot on it. You had to 512 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: make a long journey to get there, then a long 513 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: journey on their train to get to Poland and where 514 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: US officials met you. I mean, everything had to work 515 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: out perfectly, and it did. Yeah, and so many times 516 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 1: that if something hadn't happened within a specific minute, I 517 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't have made it. This was you know, US intelligence 518 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: let us know that the Polish Prime Minister was there. 519 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: Polish intelligence. It basically allowed us to get onto their 520 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: equivalent of Air Force one, you know, their prime Minister's train. 521 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: Ukrainian intelligence, you know, helping us to try and get 522 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 1: through all these checkpoints, at which point every in these ambulance, 523 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: every checkpoint they came out with their guns drawn, getting 524 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: us out of the car, checking my wounds because they 525 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: thought we were a Russian team coming in to get Zelenski. 526 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: But then I finally, with minutes to spare, got onto 527 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: the Polish Prime Minister's train. He had been on a 528 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: covert mission to visit Zelenski and those next hours without 529 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: pain killers or when I had to really push on through, 530 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: knowing that if I could make it to Poland, the 531 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: Americans and the military would be there. And as soon 532 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: as we crossed the boarder, there was a black Hawk 533 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: waiting for me. And I was amazingly lucky that the 534 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 1: Sexty of Defense Austin had allowed me to be treated 535 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: within the military medicine, and so I had flown straight 536 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 1: away to Launch School in Germany, the US air base there, 537 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: and that is where so many hundreds of you know, 538 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: American servicemen had been treated after their injuries in Afghanistan Iraq, 539 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: and so I was with the people who knew these 540 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: kind of injuries the best. And that's when I knew 541 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 1: that I was really saved. When I was past yea, 542 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: let me ask you this final question only because of 543 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: the constraints of time. This all sounds like a god 544 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: thing to me. Has this impacted your life, your faith, 545 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: your belief system? You know, I was Someone pulled me 546 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: over earlier today in the office. She came up and 547 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: she said, I had to stop you because God came 548 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: to me last night and he wanted me to tell 549 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: you that it wasn't your time. That You've got so 550 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: much more good to do in this world, and that's 551 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: what you're here for. And it just struck so much 552 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: that this lady came up to me, and the messages 553 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: I'm getting online, people who say, you know, listening to 554 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: your story has helped me pull through, has helped me 555 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: get too difficult situations. It has changed me. It's changed 556 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: me in a number of ways, and that's the most important. 557 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: Believe in what you believe in, fight for it every day, 558 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: and it will get you through the hardest moments that 559 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: you have to. I believe that wholeheartedly, and I am 560 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: the same person I used to be, but I'm a 561 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: totally new person as well, and I continue to learn 562 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: more about myself and my own faith every single day. 563 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: By the way, the book is called Saved a War 564 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: Reporter's Mission to Make It Home instantly became a number 565 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: one bestseller, which was awesome. Listen, Benjamin, it's an honor 566 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: for me to be able to call you a friend 567 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: and a colleague. Your story is beyond inspiring to me 568 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: and so many others, and I see the trajectory of 569 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: your life. I agree with that woman. Whoever you spoke 570 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: to that God has going to use this story of 571 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: yours to help so many others. It already is, and 572 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: I hope everybody one gets a copy of the book. 573 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: It's on Hannity dot com, Amazon dot com now on 574 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: bookstores all across the country. Saved a war reporter's mission 575 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: to make it home. My friend, Benjamin Hall, thank god 576 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: you got back. Thank God you have the attitude you have. 577 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: You are, You're a courageous, You're inspirational and a good friend. 578 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: And Sean, you've been talking to me and willing me 579 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: on every day since has happened. So I've got to 580 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: thank you too for all your support. It was sad 581 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: among many things that got me through, So thank you 582 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: too for being such a great friend, Sean. And there's 583 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: so many great people at Fox. I can't forget Jennifer 584 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: Griffin and Fox Management and they were all involved to 585 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: do everything within their means to help you too. And 586 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: thank god you're back with your family and we wish 587 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: you the best and hope to see against sue my 588 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: friend looking forward to Sean. Thank you, Thank you. All Right, 589 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: that's gonna wrap things up for today. We'll have the 590 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: latest on the Biden billionaire bank bailout issue, and how 591 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: we the people end up paying for all of this. 592 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: We have shark tanks, Kevin O'Leary will on us tonight, 593 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: David Asman, we'll check in with us. That's nineties durn 594 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: S DVR. Hannity Tonight on the Vox News Channel. Remember, 595 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: if you want tickets for a show, we have Connomer 596 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: Gregor in studio tomorrow. Just go to Hannity dot com 597 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: and the tickets are absolutely free. All right, Thanks for 598 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: being with us, see you tonight. Back here tomorrow. Thank 599 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: you for making this show possible.