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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Callida Health.

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Speaker 2: Happy Friday, everybody got to the end of the week

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Speaker 2: once again. Welcome to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve

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Speaker 2: Task here with you, and we'll get into a bunch

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Speaker 2: of football related things in due course.

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Speaker 3: Here Steve and I.

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Speaker 2: Before we came on, we were talking about Caitlin Clark,

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Speaker 2: the women's basketball phenom at the University of Iowa who

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Speaker 2: just set the record for all time leading scorer in

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Speaker 2: women's college basketball history and puts it up from the

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Speaker 2: logo to set the record until I was playing a

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Speaker 2: thirty two footer.

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Speaker 3: If you haven't seen this, So this girl can really

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Speaker 3: who she's a really good player. And they're playing Michigan

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Speaker 3: Iowa Michigan pretty rivalry, and she needs eight points on

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Speaker 3: the night and this you know this and again it

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Speaker 3: this is like the Michael Jordan of college women's college basketball.

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Speaker 3: So she's gonna get eight points. Well, she proceeds to

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Speaker 3: pop a couple of threes from the logo at center court,

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Speaker 3: She ain't even she didn't even hesitate. She's like doing

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Speaker 3: her on the run. It it was amazing.

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Speaker 2: She not only set the all time scoring record for

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Speaker 2: a career, she also set the single game scoring record

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Speaker 2: in University of Iowa history because she dropped forty nine

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Speaker 2: last night.

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Speaker 3: It was really cool. Now here's the thing really cool.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing that's interesting. There is already a freshman

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Speaker 2: on the scene that people believe will break Caitlin Clark's

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Speaker 2: scoring record that she just set. She's at USC, She's

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Speaker 2: a freshman Juju Watkins and she is riduculous.

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Speaker 3: And they all know so well. Records remaining to be broken.

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Speaker 3: Caitlyn's got a few more games. Well, that's right, it's

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Speaker 3: gonna gonna that's gonna be up a couple probably another hunt.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how many games, you know, whatever her

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Speaker 3: average is. That's how much this thing is gonna go up, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the team will, they'll make the tournament. They

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Speaker 2: have their conference tournament. So even when you get to

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Speaker 2: the end of the season, you know, if your team

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Speaker 2: makes a deep run in the conference tournament, which I

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Speaker 2: think people would tend to expect for Iowa and the

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Speaker 2: Big Ten on the women's side, you know, she's probably

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Speaker 2: looking at potentially after the regular season's over, she could

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Speaker 2: be playing five six more games, depending on how deep

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Speaker 2: go on the national term.

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Speaker 3: The way I understand it too, she might have another

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Speaker 3: year of eligibility. Um, is that right?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: So I heard.

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Speaker 2: Somebody she got an extra year because she was her

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Speaker 2: freshman year was the COVID year. Okay that I think

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Speaker 2: I have that right. I don't think she has another

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Speaker 2: year if she can't do anything else at the college level.

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Speaker 2: My god, well, she's making a hefty amount of that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: impressive to say the least. We know, and we told

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Speaker 2: people to tell you about this. But in the wake

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Speaker 2: of the unfortunate shooting at the conclusion of the Kansas

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Speaker 2: City Chief Super Bowl parade that left one person dead

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Speaker 2: and more than twenty wounded, many of whom were children,

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Speaker 2: to no one's surprise, the Bills Mafia has stepped forward

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Speaker 2: to answer the call for support. Some members of Chief's Kingdom,

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Speaker 2: just three days after the shooting, are thanking Bill's Mafia

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Speaker 2: specifically for all their support with twenty two dollars donations.

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Speaker 2: That's for the number of people wounded in this incident

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Speaker 2: that have poured in from Western New York and wherever else.

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Speaker 2: Bill's Mafia is to support the children wounded in the

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Speaker 2: incident who are at Children's Mercy Hospital after the unfortunate

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Speaker 2: incident took place. Happy to say all but one of

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Speaker 2: the wounded have been discharged at this point from the hospital.

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Speaker 2: But if you'd like to donate to the cause to

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Speaker 2: help turn a negative into a positive, like Bill's Mafia

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Speaker 2: has done time and again, you can go to support

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Speaker 2: dot Children's Mercy dot org slash give. There's another slash

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Speaker 2: after that two eight zero nine eight zero. But if

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Speaker 2: you sublect option four on the page with your twenty

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Speaker 2: shooting victims so they know why your donation is being made. Again,

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Speaker 2: unfortunate what these acts of kindness are in direct response to,

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Speaker 2: but it is heartwarming to see it yet again from

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Speaker 2: Bill's Mafia. So well done, right, kind of proving that

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs are only rivals on game days.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, perspective is a pleasant thing to experience. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: certainly the Bill's Mafia has shown their ability to do that.

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Taylor Swift has donated one hundred thousand dollars to

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Speaker 2: the family of Lisa Lopez Galvin, the woman killed in

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Speaker 3: After the Kansas City parade was over.

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Speaker 2: The goal for her family was to raise seventy five thousand,

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Speaker 2: Taylor Swift's one hundred k.

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Speaker 3: So kudos to her. A girlfriend of one of the

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Speaker 2: But and I mean, we all know she has the

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Speaker 2: financial wherewithal to do that, but yeah, she didn't have

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Speaker 3: Now she did. Nobody would have thought twice if it

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Speaker 3: extra year. She gets it, but I.

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Speaker 2: Don't think she's gonna take it. She can't do anything

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Speaker 3: I was gonna forget to tell you that, but you're right.

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Speaker 3: Tragedy in Kansas City. Kudos to the Bills Mafia for

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Speaker 3: stepping up to that, Kudos Taylor Swift for going the

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Speaker 3: extra mile on her way, and you know, just just

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Speaker 3: a tragic event that good people make the most out of.

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Speaker 3: So kudos to all those people who donated and told

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and this just came down now two teenagers that

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Speaker 2: it in the coming months. The biggest news around the

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Speaker 2: NFL concerns the Las Vegas Raiders and Jimmy Garoppolo as

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Speaker 2: the Jimmy Garoppolo era, if we can call it that.

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Speaker 2: Steve in Las Vegas is over Raiders quarterback Jimmy g

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Speaker 2: is being suspended two games for violating the NFL's performance

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Speaker 2: enhancing Substances policy. The policy violation is reportedly related to

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Speaker 2: him using a prescribed medication without having a valid therapeutic

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Speaker 2: become exempt. He did not do that, so he is

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Speaker 3: They're releasing him because he's he has his play has

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Speaker 3: not been worthy of the eleven point cost, a lot

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Speaker 3: certainly seems like a technicality, which is probably why he

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Speaker 3: that we sent to the league sounds like a bookkeeping error,

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Speaker 3: but it counts. What are you gonna do?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, winded up being a pretty costly one. What would

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Speaker 2: you say The peak of Garoppolo's career is the NFC

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Speaker 2: title right getting to the super Bowl with the Niners.

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Speaker 2: That's it. Yes, I mean he was I don't even

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Speaker 2: know if you could call him a super nova, like

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Speaker 2: he had one really good year where most people would

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Speaker 3: He is a name on the list of quarterbacks Kyle

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Speaker 3: Shanahan was able to win with. Now Shannon, you can

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Speaker 3: say what you want about Kyle Shanahan, and I got

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Speaker 3: crushed by the quarterback injury bug last year, like their

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Speaker 3: some of that. But Jimmy Garoppolo is on that list,

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Speaker 3: and that's as high as it goes. And there was

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Speaker 3: was rumblings that some people in the organization wanted to

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Speaker 3: keep Jimmy and get rid of Tom Brady. That seems

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Speaker 3: absolutely ridiculous at this point in history, but that's what

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Speaker 3: of course now in hindsight, that's probably not true.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm kind of wondering where the Raiders go here

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Speaker 2: because you know, their rookie, Aidan O'Connell from last season

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they got to be in the.

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Speaker 2: Market for a quarterback, right, Like might be able to

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Speaker 2: don't know, like they they need a franchise quarterback desperately.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know, what do you think about Jimmy

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Speaker 3: I am thinking that's where he's gonna end up. I mean,

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Speaker 3: He's not gonna Yeah, you could think of him going

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Speaker 2: I know where My wife would like to see him

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Speaker 2: him as a backup right here. She thinks he's one

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Speaker 2: handsome devil and he is.

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Speaker 3: Okay, no, but that's not gonna no. And then Washington

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Speaker 3: could bring you know, if Carolina comes out of there

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Speaker 3: stupor and wants to get better at quarterback, they could

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now, this guy should just go

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Speaker 2: into modeling. Seriously, like he could make a ton of money.

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Speaker 3: Dude, he's making guy could be a Colonne model. Are

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Speaker 3: you kidding me? He could be a Colonne model? Could

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Speaker 3: he not tell me? I'm wrong? He could sell soap,

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Speaker 3: he could sell anything. I mean, you're making me uncomfortable. Now,

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Speaker 3: I'm making you uncomfortable.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's anything wrong with admitting the guy

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Speaker 2: is a handsome man.

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Speaker 3: I don't care if he's enough in my masculinity to

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Speaker 3: I don't care if he I don't. I want to

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Speaker 3: he can, right, all the more reason to become a model.

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Speaker 5: I'm wondering why the defense played zone instead of covering

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Speaker 2: So I know you want to criticize hey, too much cushion,

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Speaker 3: a couple of times playing Man when they just didn't

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Speaker 3: have the guys to play it and they got beat

439
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Speaker 3: and it cost them the game, or it cost them

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Speaker 3: a chance to win the game at least. So I

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Speaker 3: would caution everybody out there, And it sounds rudimentary, but

442
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Speaker 3: I would don't make generalizations about the entire team and

443
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Speaker 3: the entire defensive philosophy of over a handful of plays

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Speaker 3: or even one game. You got to you got to

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Speaker 3: dive into the percentages and the analytics and all of

446
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Speaker 3: that stuff to really understand why they were doing certain things,

447
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 3: because it changes on a week to week basis vastly, and.

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Speaker 2: Based on opponent, player availability, all that.

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Speaker 3: It changes vastly on a week to week basis because

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Speaker 3: of your opponent, It changes because of your people, and

451
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Speaker 3: who's available, changes because of conditions, all of that. So

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Speaker 3: I would don't, I mean, don't get caught up in

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Speaker 3: the why we you know, I remember in this game

454
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Speaker 3: we ran so much Man, do it well, there's reasons

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Speaker 3: for that that don't that go beyond hoping you don't

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Speaker 3: get beat. So all listen to it, and I know

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Speaker 3: that that you know you're got your call in good faith,

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Speaker 3: but remember that none of these games are identical, and

459
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Speaker 3: the philosophy of one game doesn't necessarily go to the

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Speaker 3: next game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, back to the phones and to Butcher in East Buffalo.

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Speaker 3: What's up?

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Speaker 6: Butch my, thanks so much to take them my call

464
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Speaker 6: you guys. I just want to get right into it.

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Speaker 6: A couple of things. Number One, I want to just

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Speaker 6: say I wanted to say congratulations and I'll applaud uh one.

467
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Speaker 6: Bill's drive with the staff hirings of this year. You

468
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 6: were speaking Steve, you, Christ and Maddie and all of

469
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Speaker 6: us we were speaking about earlier this year about changing

470
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Speaker 6: over so these young players have someone to relate to

471
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Speaker 6: when you speak about teaching. And since then, since that conversation,

472
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 6: we have seen so many different young hires on this staff.

473
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Speaker 6: And I really believe that Sean mcdermy has been here.

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Speaker 6: This is probably the youngest coaching staff, teaching staff that

475
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Speaker 6: he has had so late, young players coming out of college.

476
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Speaker 6: And the reason why I say that is, and I'm

477
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Speaker 6: gonna be real short, is that me personally, looking in

478
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Speaker 6: this draft and looking at the eighteen what eighteen players

479
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Speaker 6: that's on free agents that we might lose, We're going

480
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Speaker 6: to be bringing a lot of young kids in here,

481
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Speaker 6: a lot of young talent in here, and they're going

482
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Speaker 6: to have to play. I look at this draft coming up,

483
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Speaker 6: and I know Brownie and Steve, you guys been going

484
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Speaker 6: at it about the wide receiver. Like I said before,

485
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Speaker 6: I want him to move back, but I really want

486
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Speaker 6: them to look at just keeping Josh Allen up on

487
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Speaker 6: his feet. I know we got Mitch Morris there, and

488
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Speaker 6: I know Mitch is old, carrying a lot of money

489
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Speaker 6: on his bag and everything, but I would like to

490
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Speaker 6: see them try to get I would like to see

491
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Speaker 6: him try to get Jackson Jackson Johnson. You know Jackson

492
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Speaker 6: powers John Jackson. Yeah, I really like him. I look

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Speaker 6: at him as a kinhole. I look him as a

494
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Speaker 6: Jeff Saturday. I look at him as a as a

495
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Speaker 6: starter from day one that could be with Johnson's whole career.

496
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Speaker 6: And also maybe later on in draft we always since

497
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Speaker 6: we lost three running backs. I look at maybe in

498
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Speaker 6: the fifth round of getting the kid out of Nayak,

499
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Speaker 6: New York and went to Notre Dame named Audrick Estein,

500
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Speaker 6: big power back that he could go side by side

501
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Speaker 6: with Cook and then and along with picking up other picks,

502
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Speaker 6: to help his draft. But I just wanted to call

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Speaker 6: to say I applaud the Bills from getting young on

504
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Speaker 6: the coaching staff where they have people who can relate

505
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Speaker 6: to these young players, that players that can teach, and

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Speaker 6: I think of that. I thank W G W G

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Speaker 6: Efflet for taking this call. I love MSG, and I

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Speaker 6: definitely love the fans, and you guys already know God blessed.

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Speaker 6: I love you and your family.

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Speaker 3: All right, thanks so much.

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Speaker 2: I think you could draw some live conclusions from some

512
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Speaker 2: of the turnover we witnessed on the staff. Obviously, performance

513
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Speaker 2: is a big part of the decisions that Sean McDermott

514
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Speaker 2: makes with his coaching staff. And obviously Joe Brady did

515
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Speaker 2: enough to earn the job on a full time basis

516
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Speaker 2: after being promoted interim midway through the season. And Joe

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Speaker 2: Brady's thirty four years old. I think he turns thirty

518
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 2: five this year. That's young for a coordinator in this league.

519
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 2: And so yeah, you got younger there, you got younger

520
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 2: on the back end. Your defensive coordinator is forty years

521
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 2: old now. And Bobby Babbage and some of the secondary

522
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 2: coaches that got brought on staff Booker who just got

523
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Speaker 2: named to the staff yesterday, has worked in Tennessee, done

524
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Speaker 2: some good job, good stuff with the secondary there with

525
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Speaker 2: the Titans. He's got a pro perennial Pro Bowl guy

526
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 2: there and Kevin Byerd who is an interception maven, so

527
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 2: that certainly stands out on his resume. So yeah, they

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Speaker 2: got younger. Is a precursor to how this roster is

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Speaker 2: going to look in the fall. It could be, It

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Speaker 2: could be. And we always hear coach McDermott Steve talk

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Speaker 2: all the time about how important it is for his

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Speaker 2: coaches to exude energy on the practice field because he

533
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Speaker 2: wants it to get poured into his players so they

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Speaker 2: compete at a high level in the practice setting.

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Speaker 3: The acid test is going to be how the players respond.

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Speaker 3: I could see a scenario now with a change in

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Speaker 3: coaching staffs, whatever, where a guy, for instance, like Kyer

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Speaker 3: Elam who all of a sudden changes into a different

539
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Speaker 3: player and gets more opportunity or different opportunity or starts

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Speaker 3: making the most of opportunities. Kyer Elam could thrive under

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Speaker 3: a new coaching style. Guys like that, Dan Jackson, you know,

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Speaker 3: all these guys in the secondary, the safeties, everybody could

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Speaker 3: really it could change you for the better, for the better,

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Speaker 3: absolutely for the better. So that I know, as a player,

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Speaker 3: I can think back to all the position coaches, the

546
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Speaker 3: wide receiver coaches I had here in Buffalo over the

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Speaker 3: years that I was I was here for a decade,

548
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Speaker 3: and I had like three guys or four guys, and

549
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Speaker 3: they all greatly affected your ability to play and the

550
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Speaker 3: opportunities and all of that. The atmosphere in the room.

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Speaker 3: The guys that played ahead of me, like Andre Reid

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Speaker 3: and James Lofton and Don Beebie and Brad Lamb and uh,

553
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 3: you know Al Edwards, all of those guys you could

554
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 3: you know, some of them really thrived under certain coaching.

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Speaker 3: So I'm kind of excited to see how that is

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Speaker 3: going to affect some of the guys on this roster

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Speaker 3: that we'd like to you know, coming into their third year,

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Speaker 3: you know when that big that big year, or you

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Speaker 3: know that kind of thing. I'm really excited to see

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Speaker 3: some of these guys get an opportunity with a different

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Speaker 3: voice in the room directing him.

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Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here, but the Friday fan mail

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Speaker 2: bag is open. We got more of your phone calls

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Speaker 2: coming up in our next segment Gary, Niagara Falls, Rick

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Speaker 2: and California. We'll get to you when we get back

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Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live, presented by Collid of Health.

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Speaker 2: taking your questions on the bills of the NFL. Whatever

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Speaker 2: you got under the sun, happy to answer it for

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Speaker 2: to Gary in Niagara Falls next. What's up Gary?

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Speaker 7: All right, gentlemen, I just I just have I think

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Speaker 7: I called a simple question. I'm a hockey player, so

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Speaker 7: I don't know that much about football as you guys know.

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Speaker 7: But why what do the Bills need to make a change,

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Speaker 7: either coaching or an addition of players or deletion of

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Speaker 7: players to compete with Kansas City? Simply like that? Just

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Speaker 7: give me an answer, right, Gary, I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what what makes you think they're not

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Speaker 3: competing they beat them in the regular season. They called

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Speaker 3: them to three point. It's a three point game every

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00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 3: time they they play the Bills. You can say that

588
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 3: the Chiefs have ended the Chiefs. See the Bills season,

589
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Speaker 3: you know, in the playoffs last three years or two,

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Speaker 3: or the last year three and last four whatever. That

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Speaker 3: is not not competing the answers.

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Speaker 7: We were not in the super Bowl, So.

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Speaker 2: Give me so he wants to know how you get

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Speaker 2: over on Kansas City.

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Speaker 3: Basically, play better than you played the day they ended

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Speaker 3: your season. That's it. I mean, it's not they're doing

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Speaker 3: the Bills do the Bill and the Chiefs do too,

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Speaker 3: and the Ravens do the Bills do? The Chiefs do

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Speaker 3: the Bengals have. They do a ton of things the

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Speaker 3: right way. They make the right decisions, They got the

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Speaker 3: right philosophy. They signed the right guys, they cut the

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Speaker 3: right guys. They've got great coaches. They refurbish their coaching

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00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 3: staff this year. They've got some new players they are

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00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 3: gonna add this year by just because the contract thing.

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Speaker 3: The Bills do a lot of things right. You've got

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Speaker 3: to do a million things right to get to the

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Speaker 3: level where the Bills and the Chiefs and the Bengals

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Speaker 3: and the Ravens are in this whole thing, and the

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00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 3: Houston Texans have begun to do a lot of those

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Speaker 3: things right. There are no guarantees. The Bills could get

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Speaker 3: the number one pick of the draft. Take Marvin Harrison Junior,

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Speaker 3: get the number two pick of the draft, get the

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Speaker 3: best defensive linemen, get the number three pick of the draft,

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Speaker 3: get the best another best defensive lineman, whoever you want.

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Speaker 3: They can pick the top ten picks of this draft.

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Speaker 3: You're still not guaranteed you're even gonna get to the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: You've got to do so much right to get there.

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Speaker 3: What you're asking for is a team to get there

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Speaker 3: and give yourself a chance. The Bills got all the

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Speaker 3: way through a regular season, climbed out of a six

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Speaker 3: and six hole. They've got the best player in the

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Speaker 3: National Football League at quarterback. They got one of the

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Speaker 3: best all time, best whiteouts the franchise has ever had.

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Speaker 3: They got a running back who's young and upcoming. They

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Speaker 3: got the best tight end tandem the team has ever

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Speaker 3: had in its history. They got one of the best

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Speaker 3: offensive lines the team's ever had in its history. I mean,

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Speaker 3: they're they're gonna have another chance at it, and you

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Speaker 3: can't project what happened the last three years onto this year.

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Speaker 3: Because if you think you're gonna do one magic the way,

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Speaker 3: one little magic wand and beat Pat Mahomes and Andy Reid,

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Speaker 3: what are you gonna do when it rains that day

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Speaker 3: and because of that you lose the game? Or what

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Speaker 3: are you gonna do if before the game one of

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Speaker 3: your key players twist their ankle and now you can't

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Speaker 3: match up and they beat you because of that. That's

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Speaker 3: no way you've got it. What you do is you

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00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 3: build your team the best way you can, and then

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Speaker 3: you see if you can beat the Chiefs. And the

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00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 3: Chiefs are gonna see if they can beat you because

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Speaker 3: they're building their team the same way. They got key guys,

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00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 3: so do the Bills. They got really good coaches, so

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00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 3: do the Bills. Those franchises are on a collision course.

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00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 3: Those ones I've mentioned are on a collision course every

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Speaker 3: year unless something derails them that they can't control.

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Speaker 2: Now, all that being said, Steve and I have said

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Speaker 2: that they aren't an arms race with the Chiefs and

648
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Speaker 2: could probably use a bonifide outside weapon in the passing

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00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 2: game to augment their receiving corps, someone with size, playmaking

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Speaker 2: ability in a high catch rate and the ability to separate. Fortunately,

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00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 2: this is a deep wide receiver class in the draft

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Speaker 2: and adding someone of that ilk would probably help their

653
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Speaker 2: cause because as we saw this year, it didn't matter

654
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 2: if you were the number one defense in the league,

655
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 2: the number two defense in the league, or the number

656
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 2: four defense in the league. The Chiefs beat all three

657
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 2: of those teams, the Bills, the Ravens, and the Niners

658
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 2: because they have Patrick Mahomes at quarterback, so it might

659
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 2: be time to lean on the offensive side of the

660
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 2: ball and simply just try to outscore that other team.

661
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 2: All of the Chiefs defense is pretty good too, so

662
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 2: it's it sounds easy, it's not. You can't just pick

663
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: one thing and presto change. Oh, you're better than that.

664
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 3: The Chiefs have also doubled down on their success rate

665
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,919
Speaker 3: because of the way they drafted on their defensive side

666
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 3: of the ball in the last year or two. They

667
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 3: really hit on some guys that can play, some some

668
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 3: all time great ones, which is which is really difficult

669
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 3: to do. They did it, and kudos to them. That

670
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 3: doesn't mean the Bills can't compete with them. Yeah, there's

671
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,760
Speaker 3: no this. And I'll say this too, Gary and Niager falls.

672
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 3: You said you're a hockey player. Football is not hockey.

673
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 3: It is not hockey. You don't. We see them half

674
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 3: the five guys on hockey, twenty five guys on hockey,

675
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 3: and you get like two lines that are better than

676
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 3: everybody else, and you got a team and it's not

677
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 3: like that in football. You don't. And like we've been

678
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 3: here in the last month or so, it's not like

679
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 3: that in football where you just fire the coach and

680
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 3: all of a sudden your team's automatically better, like they

681
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 3: think it's gonna be in hockey for some reason, that

682
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 3: is never the case. In football. You've got a couple

683
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 3: of hundred people you're trying to manage, not twenty. It's

684
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 3: a different animal. And so to transpose what works in

685
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 3: one sport onto another is different. It's impossible and it's

686
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 3: not accurate and it doesn't work. So and I'm not

687
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 3: saying you're doing that, Gary, but you said you were

688
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,720
Speaker 3: a hockey guy, didn't understand football. It's not like football

689
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:31,720
Speaker 3: is not hockey, and it's self evident in a million ways.

690
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 3: But you've got to do things right at this time

691
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 3: of year and in the coming months of offseason. You

692
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 3: got to do things right in the draft, OTAs, preseason,

693
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 3: mini camp, training camp, all the way through the regular season,

694
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 3: all the way to the playoffs. You've got to build

695
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 3: on everything throughout the course of a year to have

696
00:38:54,080 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 3: another chance at the Chiefs. If you want it's it's not.

697
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 3: I'm I'll say it again. There ain't no hump. You

698
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 3: just gotta play good on that day. You gotta come down,

699
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 3: you gotta make the kick, you gotta make another play.

700
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:13,959
Speaker 3: You gotta make one more play than that other team.

701
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 3: And changing your philosophy and doing something completely different this

702
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 3: offseason is stupid. It's stupid. And all these all these

703
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 3: you know, these intellects who call up and say, well,

704
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 3: if you keep doing the same thing over and over

705
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 3: and expect different results, that's insanity. You're the one that's insane.

706
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 3: Why don't we just play golf. Then let's change it.

707
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 3: Let's play ten let's play tennis instead. We'll beat them

708
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 3: by playing tennis. How about that? Doing that different? You dope.

709
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 5: No.

710
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 3: You gotta put your football team together the best way

711
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 3: you can and play as well as you can. That's

712
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 3: how you do it. There ain't no magic potion there. Sorry,

713
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 3: I get it. I'm sorry. There is not gonna be

714
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 3: any one thing. Are we gonna last year? You can

715
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 3: get last year? This is it, man. You know, Gabe

716
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 3: Davis is gonna make that jump from being that four

717
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 3: touchdown guy and that kid in the thirteen second game.

718
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 3: He's gonna make that. Joey, No, it doesn't work. You

719
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 3: gotta just keep going. Yeah, you gotta keep building it

720
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 3: the best way you can and measure up every year.

721
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 2: Let's jump back on the phones and go to Rick

722
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 2: in California.

723
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 3: What's up? Rick?

724
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 4: Hey, Brownie Steins, how you guys doing good? Good? Hey?

725
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 4: Couple of things for you. But first of all, I

726
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,439
Speaker 4: want to say about the draft. I'm not worried about

727
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 4: the draft in the least. I really do want an

728
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 4: awesome wide receiver like everybody does. Don't get me wrong,

729
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 4: but since being in McDermott has been in charge of

730
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 4: the Buffalo Bills, the only thing that's ever beaten us

731
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 4: is ourselves. Either of the injuries, enalts and turnovers.

732
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: That's it.

733
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 4: That's what killed us. It's not it's execution. The coaches

734
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 4: have nothing to do with it. You know, I mean

735
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 4: the thirteen second game. Okay, I'll give it that. That

736
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 4: was a complete coaches error, no doubt, no question. Ever

737
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 4: since then, it's execution by the players. The coaches have

738
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 4: nothing to do with turn the ball over or getting

739
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 4: injuries of the players, or the penalties that are caused

740
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 4: on the field. If we limit those three issues by half,

741
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 4: winning two or three Super Bowls in a row, in

742
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 4: my opinion, that's my part of the draft. But my

743
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 4: question why I called in today is about the coaches challenges. Now,

744
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 4: the coaches only get two challenges a game, correct.

745
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 2: Yes, they get a third if they get their one

746
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 2: of those two challenges.

747
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, Well, my question to you, gentlemen is this.

748
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 4: I know it prolongs the game, and nobody wants a

749
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 4: three hour game or or a four hour whatever, but

750
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 4: let's just say give give the teams two challenges.

751
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 7: Okay.

752
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 4: If they keep challenging and winning, they should automatically get

753
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 4: to keep those challenges throughout the entire game. If they

754
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 4: lose challenge, okay, take it away, and that's one less sure.

755
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:08,280
Speaker 4: But hypothetically speaking, if McDermott throws the flag nine times

756
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 4: and wins nine challenges, he should be able to keep

757
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 4: his challenges and that will definitely keep the reins tighter

758
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 4: on the officiating cruise, because if they lose nine challenges

759
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 4: in the game, yeah they're gonna be fired or sent

760
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 4: down the creek, you know. But if you get two

761
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 4: challenges only and you lose them both, okay, great, they

762
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 4: don't get no more challenges. I agree with that. But

763
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 4: if they throw a challenge flag, they win those challenges,

764
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 4: why do they get penalized in getting them taken away?

765
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 4: Is it strictly because of the TV time or you know,

766
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 4: the time of the game.

767
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 2: Well, they get a time out.

768
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 3: I would say, yes, you're right, that's all it is.

769
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 3: It's the running time of the game. The NFL wants

770
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 3: these games in three hours.

771
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 2: Nine challenges is going to bog the game down to

772
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 2: no end. So it's just not to and they lose

773
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 2: the time. The penalty is they lose a time out.

774
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're wrong on it. And I'll say this too,

775
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 3: and it's it's a good call, Rick, and I get

776
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 3: your faith in being a McDermott in the draft, and

777
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 3: you're right, Brownie and I have talked about it. The Bills.

778
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 3: If you're gonna beat the Bills. They got to help

779
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 3: you or you're not going to get it done. You're right,

780
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 3: But that's true for a lot of good teams. That's

781
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 3: true for the Chiefs, it's true for the Ravens, it's

782
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 3: true for the Bengals, it's true for all the teams

783
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 3: at the top of the league. They feel like and

784
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 3: Brownie and I on all Bills fans observe the Bills. Really,

785
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 3: if you're going to beat them, you gotta help them.

786
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 3: The Bills have to help that team beat them. And

787
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 3: that's true of all good teams. And this coach is

788
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 3: challenge thing. You're right. It is strictly running time of

789
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 3: the game. They wanted to fit in a three hour

790
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 3: window and the more challenges and all that stuff you get.

791
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 3: They know all the numbers about how long it takes

792
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 3: to challenge and why and the average time and how

793
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 3: long it would expand the game time. They don't want that,

794
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 3: and they'll fight against it. The league will because of

795
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 3: their TV partners. They want to fit it in a

796
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 3: three hour window. You're right. And my son, a lot

797
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 3: of people know my son played in Canada for seven years.

798
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 3: We had a great time up there. It was a

799
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 3: great league. And they do things some of this stuff differently.

800
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 3: They can challenge anything. They can challenge any call at

801
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 3: any time on the field, whether it's a judgment call

802
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 3: or not, and even if it is away from the ball,

803
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 3: they can charge. So if you give up a big

804
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 3: play on the other side and you say, wait a minute,

805
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 3: we gave a big play, but their offensive guy jumped

806
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 3: before the ball, or you know he was holding, or

807
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 3: they had a pick play on the other side, whatever

808
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 3: you call it, offensive pass interference, you can challenge the

809
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 3: play and that touchdown can be brought back because of

810
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 3: a penalty that nobody called and nobody saw other than

811
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 3: your coaching staff. That's because of that. Coaches wait until

812
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,439
Speaker 3: the second half of those CFL games to call because

813
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 3: they then they know it can really make a difference.

814
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 3: You know, the games on the line. Keep an eye out.

815
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 3: If we give up an explosive play, we're gonna challenge it.

816
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 3: Make sure we've got a good challenge. And it takes

817
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:53,439
Speaker 3: forever to play those games sometimes, So that's you're right,

818
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:58,919
Speaker 3: Rick from California. The thing that keeps that from being

819
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 3: done all all the time is the running time of

820
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 3: the game. That's why they got that the spy, the

821
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 3: eye in the sky, the officiating judge from the top.

822
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 3: He you'll see it, and they keep doing They doing

823
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 3: it a live They don't even announce it. They'll adjust

824
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 3: the spot, say yes he got the first down, No,

825
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 3: we got the first down. They review things ongoing now

826
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 3: and keep the game moving. And a lot of times

827
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 3: you just don't hear about it.

828
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 2: Break time for us, hear more of your phone calls.

829
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 2: When we return, Randy into Pew will lead us off

830
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live. Next, stay tuned. All right,

831
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 2: welcome back to an obl Friday fan mail bag. Here

832
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve tasking with you.

833
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: Right back to the phones, we go into Randy in

834
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 2: de Pew. Randy, what do you got for us?

835
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 8: Hi, guys, thanks for taking my call. Sure, I had

836
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 8: a question about the draft. I know this year we

837
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 8: were getting a third round compensatory pick because we lost

838
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 8: Edmunds in the free agency market, and I was wondering

839
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 8: how that works with someone who's not a first round pick.

840
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 8: For instance, if we had lost this upcoming year Epenets

841
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 8: and also maybe lost Gabe Davis, would we get compensatory

842
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 8: picks from them as well, even though they were lower

843
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 8: round picks. Yeah, hang up and listen to your explanation.

844
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's not a fully understood formula as to how

845
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 2: it works because the league kind of keeps it under wraps,

846
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 2: I think for fear of persecution. But I do know

847
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 2: that first and foremost, you need a net loss of

848
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 2: free agents. You need to lose more than you sign

849
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 2: to qualify for any compensatory picks. The second part of

850
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 2: that equation is did someone you lose sign a giant

851
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 2: contract somewhere else, because the Bills are pretty much dead

852
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 2: even in terms of the free agents that qualify, because

853
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 2: for example, the free agents that the Bill signed in

854
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 2: May and June, like Puna Ford and Leonard Floyd, do

855
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 2: not go into that equation. There is a window that

856
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 2: closes on the free agents that qualify to determine your

857
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 2: net loss of free agents. And you already see how

858
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 2: far down the rabbit hole we're getting here. But the

859
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 2: bottom line that you need to know is it is

860
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 2: more about the size of the contract that the player

861
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 2: you lose sign somewhere else than it is what round

862
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 2: they were drafted in as rookies. So it's the quality

863
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 2: of the player and they're play in the NFL and

864
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 2: the contract that they signed for elsewhere, that's the biggest

865
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 2: part of it. And as we know, Tremaine had been

866
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 2: signed a four year, seventy two million dollar contract with

867
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 2: fifty million guarantees and was the starting middle linebacker for

868
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 2: the Bears. So it is believed that that is going

869
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 2: to get the Bills a third round compensatory draft selection.

870
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 3: It and let's face the Bills signed a ton of

871
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 3: free agents last year, but they were free agent you know,

872
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 3: you know, not too many for big money, not for

873
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 3: big you know, Connor McGovern the guard, that's their biggest contract.

874
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 3: So the net loss is it's both financial and uh,

875
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 3: you know, role players for you know, a guy who's

876
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 3: you know, supposedly a superstar. So yeah, it's you're right,

877
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 3: Brownie's right. It is a little bit shrouded in mystery

878
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 3: is to where these picks come from.

879
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 2: But that's the gen.

880
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 3: Sure, it's sure it's written out somewhere, but I've never

881
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 3: seen it spelled out completely. He's right, it could be

882
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,399
Speaker 3: the it Sometimes it's the sheer number if you lose

883
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 3: a ton of guys and bring all your own guys back. Uh,

884
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 3: And you know, and replace them with draft picks or whatever.

885
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 3: There's something in there about that. The money certainly has

886
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 3: something to say about it.

887
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 2: It's the big frontline players that sign big contracts elsewhere

888
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 2: that get teams and third round compensatories and fourth round compensatories.

889
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 2: The later ones are due more to a net loss of.

890
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 3: Free agent and I don't know whether they go back

891
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 3: and look at snap counts, that kind of thing. They

892
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 3: can do that as well. So it's it's a good question.

893
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 3: It's a good question, Randy, But I don't know that

894
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 3: that really solves it for you, because.

895
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 2: Well he wanted to know. Primarily is where they're drafted

896
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 2: counting the equation.

897
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 3: It does not.

898
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 2: It's more about the career they've had in the league

899
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 2: and the money they signed for elsewhere when you lose them,

900
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 2: that's the key point. Let's squeeze David in North Carolina

901
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 2: in here before the break.

902
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 3: What do you got, David?

903
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 2: David?

904
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 3: Are you there?

905
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're on, buddy.

906
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 4: Hey, I have a question for Steve. Yeah, Hey, Steve,

907
00:49:55,400 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 4: has Papa ever reached out to you for god about

908
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 4: those special teams, how we could cover better and.

909
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 2: Stuff like that.

910
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 3: They'd never asked me to.

911
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 5: No, not like that.

912
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 3: They never asked me to coach or anything like that.

913
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 3: I've spoken to the team on a couple of occasions

914
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 3: for different reasons, once for Sean McDermott. But no, I'm no,

915
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 3: and I'll tell you this too. I'm I've been asked

916
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 3: this before. I'm not really in the I'm not really

917
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 3: a coach. If I would have applied myself and wanted

918
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 3: to do it, I could have done it. I think

919
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 3: I could have gotten my foot in the door and

920
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 3: gone as a special teams coordinator someplace later in my

921
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 3: as I worked my way up the ranks. I don't

922
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 3: expect to like as soon as I retire to b one.

923
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 3: But if I would have wanted to go into coaching,

924
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 3: obviously that was open to me. But like it is

925
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 3: for every player, I didn't want that lifestyle for myself,

926
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 3: for my family. That's basically why I never did it.

927
00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 3: I didn't want that lifestyle. And so for now and now,

928
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 3: as a guy as old as I am, I'm pretty

929
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 3: unqualified now as the game has evolved, I can speak

930
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 3: in generalities, but I'm not ready to go in and

931
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 3: now on an individual basis, I could coach a guy

932
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 3: up on how to release and techniques and stuff like that.

933
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 3: But as far as the big picture goes, I'm I'm

934
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,879
Speaker 3: unqualified for that. I'm I can only speak in generalities

935
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 3: and how you know, the thought processes, But as an

936
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 3: individual player, I can speak to that pretty clearly. So

937
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,879
Speaker 3: now I'm coaching is not a lifestyle that I wanted

938
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 3: for myself or my family, and that's why I never

939
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 3: did it.

940
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 2: Break time for us here because in hour number two,

941
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 2: we're going to be joined by Sam Monson from Pro

942
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 2: pro Football Focus. We'll talk a little free agency with him,

943
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 2: among other topics as it pertains to the Bills and

944
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 2: their camp situation. Will get to that when we return

945
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live presented by Call Out of Health,

946
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

947
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 3: This this One Bill's Live presented by Calida Health.

948
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,479
Speaker 2: All right, here our number two on a Friday, Chris Brown,

949
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you. Please be joined by Pro Football

950
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 2: Focus NFL lead analyst Sam Monson, who joins us on

951
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 2: the show. And uh, you know we've we're diving headlong

952
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 2: into the off season with the Super Bowl in the

953
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 2: rear view mirror. We started a few weeks earlier than that,

954
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 2: Sam but you know, looking at the free agent picture

955
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 2: out there, I realize the combine comes first on the calendar,

956
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 2: but free agency is where they're going to be able

957
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 2: to change the roster primarily, and the Bills have some

958
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 2: cap compliancy work to do. Being as far over the

959
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 2: cap as they are, there seems to be a reasonable

960
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 2: path to doing that. But I don't foresee them being

961
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 2: active in the market early. I kind of see them

962
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 2: taking part in Wave two, maybe even as late as

963
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 2: Wave three, when the cost of doing business comes down precipitously.

964
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:35,800
Speaker 2: What do you anticipate the Bills being in terms of

965
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 2: buyers in the free agent market as you see.

966
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 3: It, Yeah, I agree with you.

967
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,879
Speaker 9: I think they'll be shopping in the second or third

968
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 9: wave of free agency, which, to be honest, I think

969
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 9: is the right way of doing it anyway. Generally, I

970
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 9: think the best bargains in free agency tend to happen

971
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 9: in those second or third wave, Which doesn't necessarily mean

972
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 9: you have to wait until all these players are taken

973
00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 9: and then see who's left and kind of go through

974
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 9: another round of auctioneering.

975
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: You can get that business done on day one.

976
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 9: It's just you have to know that, right away, you're

977
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 9: shopping at a different price bracket than some of the

978
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 9: other teams with money to spend who are going after

979
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 9: the biggest name. So I think there are going to

980
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 9: be players out there that Buffalo will be interested in

981
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 9: and maybe even signing or talking to right away. It's

982
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,280
Speaker 9: just they're not going to be in that first obvious

983
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 9: wave of free agency. I think the defensive interior is

984
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 9: a really intriguing position this year in terms of free agents.

985
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 9: There's some big name guys out there, assuming they hit

986
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 9: the market, you know, Chris Jones, justin Matta Bk. Maybe

987
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,720
Speaker 9: neither of those guys are gonna actually become free agents

988
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 9: that might get tigged or locked up before that.

989
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 1: But there's some guys lower down.

990
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 9: On that list that I think Buffalo would definitely be

991
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 9: interested in talking to and maybe bringing in or an

992
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 9: area that's sort of losing talent at the moment in

993
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 9: terms of what they've got hitting the market.

994
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 3: One of the things we've talked about at length over

995
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 3: the Brandon Bean tenure here in Buffalo, and something that

996
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 3: has become a trend around the league are one year deals.

997
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,439
Speaker 3: Buffalo had a ton of those guys on their roster

998
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 3: this year signing one year deals. You see other teams

999
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 3: beginning to do that in free agency, particularly like you

1000
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 3: said where the Bills shop in that second wave of

1001
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 3: free agency. These guys feel like if they come to

1002
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 3: Buffalo put together a good season for a playoff caliber team,

1003
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 3: they could get one more shot at another team in

1004
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 3: free agency. And plus it keeps even though the money's

1005
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 3: not guaranteed, it kind of is because they're signing these

1006
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 3: guys to play, So it seems like a really good strategy.

1007
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 3: Do you see that widening in its scope around the league?

1008
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think there is a little bit of a

1009
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 9: trend towards kind of prove it deals in the NFL.

1010
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 9: I think for the first time in a while, both

1011
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 9: sides are starting to like what that brings to the table.

1012
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 9: You know that the players are looking for that one

1013
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 9: year because the big contract they're looking for isn't there now,

1014
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 9: so rather than take a lower market deal, they're betting

1015
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 9: on themselves on a one year increment and trying to

1016
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 9: cash in next year. And then I think the teams

1017
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 9: are liking theal you that those players can bring to

1018
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 9: the table, motivated trying to bet on themselves, trying.

1019
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: To make one really good year to then go and

1020
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 1: get paid somewhere else.

1021
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 9: So I think it's a nice concept that works for

1022
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 9: a lot of player and team combinations, and a team

1023
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 9: like Buffalo can sell players on, you know, come and

1024
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 9: try and win a championship as well. I know they

1025
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 9: haven't done it yet, but they are going to be contenders,

1026
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 9: you know, Josh Allen. With the talent that is there

1027
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 9: on that Buffalo team, they can sell teams on or

1028
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 9: sell players on. You know, come have a good year

1029
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 9: for us. You'll be playing for a championship caliber team.

1030
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 1: You have a shot at.

1031
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 9: Winning a ring as well. There's a lot of good

1032
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 9: points to that. You're not going to lose value by

1033
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 9: having a good year here.

1034
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,280
Speaker 2: I want to flesh out, you know, that defensive tackle

1035
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 2: conversation that you touched on a little bit earlier there, Sam,

1036
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 2: because yes, it's a market that will be flushed with

1037
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 2: defensive tackle talent. I just wonder how how deep Buffalo

1038
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 2: can dip their toes there. It is an expensive position.

1039
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 2: I think there is value in the market, but we

1040
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 2: know that they do want to bring day Kwon Jones back,

1041
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 2: and I think we all understand why he's a little

1042
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 2: longer in the tooth. Do you have any players in

1043
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 2: mind that are somewhere in the twenty six to twenty

1044
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 2: nine year year old range who could fit in what

1045
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 2: is anticipated to be a pretty strict free agent budget

1046
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 2: for Buffalo.

1047
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I think when you're shopping in that

1048
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 9: second and third wave, you're talking about players where there's

1049
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 9: some concern, there's red flag somewhere, right, So you're not

1050
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 9: talking about these perfect prospects. But there's a couple of

1051
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 9: guys I think that I would certainly be interested in

1052
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 9: talking to if on Buffalo. One is Javon ken Low

1053
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 9: from the forty nine Ers, a former first round pick,

1054
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 9: was expected to be an incredible pass rusher in the NFL.

1055
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 9: Year's worth of injuries just really slow to start to

1056
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 9: his career didn't really happen until this year where he's

1057
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 9: had a really good season just before free agency. I'd

1058
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 9: be really curious to know what the market good for

1059
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 9: him his life now, maybe it's going to be much

1060
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 9: hotter than the Bills can stand because he's got that

1061
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,439
Speaker 9: former first round Panda Agreen. We finally got to see

1062
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 9: what he could do with a healthy season, albeit one

1063
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 9: with Javon Hargrave and Nick Bosa and you know all

1064
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 9: the talent that the forty nine ers have around him.

1065
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 9: But if teams are scared away by his injury history,

1066
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 9: he would certainly be one to talk to. And then

1067
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 9: Tierre Tart, the guy that used to play for the

1068
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 9: Tennessee Titans. There's some sort of character concern and some

1069
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 9: attitude issues with him, but he's been a very good,

1070
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 9: disruptive player for the Titans when he was on the

1071
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 9: field before they fell out with him again, a guy

1072
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 9: that I would be intrigued to talk to to figure

1073
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 9: out if there's a natural mesh there and if there

1074
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 9: is someone that could absolutely present value given the sort

1075
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 9: of red flags.

1076
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 1: I think that will be out there for other teams.

1077
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 3: And obviously also the Bills and their number two wide

1078
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 3: receiver free agency draft. We always tend to think it's

1079
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 3: gonna be a great draft. We're gonna see if we

1080
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 3: can get one. But basically most of these teams in

1081
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 3: the Bills have really done this in past years. They

1082
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Speaker 3: fill all these holes with free agency so that they

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00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 3: can get to the point where it doesn't have to

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00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 3: be a need when the player comes up on the

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00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 3: draft board. They can draft the best player who's going

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00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 3: to be the best pro no matter what position he makes.

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Speaker 3: What do you think about that philosophy and where does

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00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 3: that leave the Bills with a number two wide out

1089
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 3: in a wide receiver deep draft? Yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 9: Generally philosophically, I think that's a smart way of doing business.

1091
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 9: You shouldn't go into the draft with needs to fill.

1092
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 9: You want to fill your needs. You want to get

1093
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 9: players that you're comfortable starting, even if they're not necessarily

1094
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 9: the best players in the world, just the guy you

1095
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 9: know can go out there and do a job worst

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00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 9: case scenario, so that you don't have to chase players

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00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 9: in the draft. That being said, I think it is

1098
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 9: an incredible wide receiver draft, and whether you're going to

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Speaker 9: draft one in the first round, the second round, or

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Speaker 9: even later in the draft, I think you can get

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Speaker 9: guys this year that can come in be impact contributors

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Speaker 9: right away, you know, make an immediate impact.

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Speaker 1: We saw last year the Texans. I have to tank

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Speaker 1: Dell in the third round.

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Speaker 9: He's one of the better wide receivers in that draft

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01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 9: class right out of the gate. I think you're going

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01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 9: to be able to get players that can make that

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01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 9: kind of impact deep into this draft. So I think

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Speaker 9: absolutely they can dip their toe and free agency bring

1110
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 9: in one or two low priced wide receivers that they

1111
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 9: can fill out the depth chart. But I think absolutely

1112
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 9: they're going to be targeting receiver in this draft as well,

1113
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 9: and I'd be very surprised that they didn't come away

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01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 9: with one in those first few rounds.

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01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it may have to come in round one

1116
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 2: if the board falls right, because I think the general

1117
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 2: consensus is the Bills don't just need an outside presence

1118
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 2: in their receiving corps, but they need someone capable of

1119
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 2: taking over the number one receiving role, maybe as soon

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Speaker 2: as the second half of next year, certainly by twenty

1121
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 2: twenty five. So you need someone with pedigree and an

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01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 2: ability to step into a giant role pretty early in

1123
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Speaker 2: their career. That usually needs to happen at the top

1124
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 2: of the draft. And the problem is the Bills are

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Speaker 2: picking twenty eighth and they're not the only team looking

1126
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 2: for an alpha male receiver. I know it's early, and

1127
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 2: you know, how are we going to predict what's going

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01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 2: to be available at twenty eight. The Bills missed the

1129
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 2: receiver run last year, got one of the best pass

1130
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 2: catching tight ends in the draft, Brandon being pivoted and pivoted, Well,

1131
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 2: do you think it's deep enough to perhaps still find

1132
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 2: a guy who at least down the line could be

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01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 2: a number one as low as twenty eight?

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01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: No, I really do, Actually, I think so.

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01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 9: One of the differences between this year's wide receiver group

1136
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 9: in last year's last year is once you got beyond

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01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 9: the first couple of picks, and even actually the first

1138
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 9: couple of guys like Jordan Addison, so many of the

1139
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 9: wide receivers were small, you know, and they were sort

1140
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 9: of questions whether they could be number one guys or

1141
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 9: whether they could just come in and be really useful

1142
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 9: parts of a receiving corps. But there was a real

1143
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 9: lack of those kind of big bodied X type receivers,

1144
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 9: those prototypical number one size players for the first couple

1145
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 9: of rounds, and then they started to come back later

1146
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 9: in the draft. This year, I think there's a ton

1147
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 9: of those guys. I actually think that's the strength of

1148
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 9: this draft. And maybe they're not as good across the

1149
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 9: board as they were a year ago, but there's a

1150
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 9: lot of guys that you would say, okay, right now,

1151
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 9: maybe that guy is not a number one, but maybe

1152
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 9: next year he could step in with a year of

1153
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 9: development in the NFL and he could be a true

1154
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 9: number one guy. I'm thinking of guys like ad Mitchell

1155
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 9: from Texas. Keon Coleman from Florida State is going to

1156
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 9: be a polarizing one that is going to divide a

1157
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 9: lot of people, But I think he has that kind

1158
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 9: of potential. Troy Franklin from Oregon. These are all guys

1159
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 9: that have I think that kind of potential. Maybe not

1160
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 9: year one, but year two.

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01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 3: Why is Keyon Coleman so polarizing for people out of

1162
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:38,959
Speaker 3: Florida State.

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Speaker 9: He's got a lot of sort of troubling metrics, troubling

1164
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 9: production numbers. It's very difficult to construct a statistical case

1165
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 9: that he's going to be an elite, top end receiver.

1166
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:52,919
Speaker 1: But you watch the tape.

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Speaker 9: I actually think he was much better this year than

1168
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 9: he was a year ago at Michigan State, even though

1169
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 9: the numbers would say the reverse. I think there's a

1170
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 9: lot lot of evidence of him developing as a route

1171
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 9: runner this year. I think you can see a lot

1172
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 9: more nuanced to his game. If you watch him return punts,

1173
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 9: I think you see him move an awful lot better

1174
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 9: than he did catching some of these kind of screens

1175
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 9: that went nowhere for Florida State.

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01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of potential there.

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01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 9: Some of his highlight plays are absolutely mind blowings and spectacular,

1178
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 9: But people are going to get bogged down on the numbers,

1179
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 9: are going to get bogged down with the lack of

1180
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 9: production relative to a lot of these other guys. And

1181
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 9: I think he'll have a lot of people sort of

1182
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 9: against him because he doesn't take a lot of these boxes.

1183
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 9: He will be an outlier if he succeeds, because most receivers,

1184
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 9: you know.

1185
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 1: They do come with that kind of college production, right.

1186
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 2: And if we're just going to take a sample of

1187
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 2: what Buffalo was valuing in terms of pass catchers last year,

1188
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 2: and you know Kincaid is an example of this. They

1189
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 2: were focused on separation ability and catch rate because that

1190
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:00,080
Speaker 2: was an issue. I mean, this team was second in

1191
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 2: the league and drop passes in twenty twenty two. They

1192
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 2: just wanted to find guys with high catch rates and

1193
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 2: who could separate to be early easy button answers for

1194
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 2: Josh in the passing game. Does Coleman fit that bill

1195
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 2: or is he too much of an enigma to put

1196
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 2: in that box.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's inconsistency.

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Speaker 9: I mean, he has some plays where his ability to

1199
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 9: catch the ball is absolutely insane, Like he jumps up

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01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 9: over a guy one hands a post route over the

1201
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 9: middle in a way that there might be two guys

1202
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 9: in this draft class are able to do that. But

1203
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 9: he'll also drop a couple of easy ones as well.

1204
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 9: He's got some plays where he does show really nice

1205
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 9: ability to separate, particularly late in the play, you know,

1206
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 9: just a quick bounce in one direction to get into

1207
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 9: a hole and to settle into a gap and give

1208
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 9: the quarterback a window. But he doesn't separate in man

1209
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 9: coverage consistently the way some of these other receivers do.

1210
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 9: So I think if you're drafting Keyon Coleman, you're doing

1211
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 9: it with the idea that he is a bit of

1212
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 9: a project and you're going to try and sort of

1213
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 9: teach him that the real nuances have how to get

1214
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 9: that consistency to his game. And if he can do that,

1215
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 9: then I think he can become special. But I think

1216
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 9: there are a lot of teams that will be scared

1217
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 9: away by that and will instead of look to a

1218
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 9: safer option in.

1219
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:16,439
Speaker 3: This draft, how many guys wide receivers we're talking about

1220
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 3: will go in the first round. You think it'll be like,

1221
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 3: I'm not saying a specific number, but is it like

1222
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 3: at least four and maybe as many as eight something

1223
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 3: like that. How many are you thinking are absolutely going

1224
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 3: to be gone after the first round?

1225
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's probably going to be five or

1226
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 1: six something like that.

1227
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 9: I think it's a strong group of wide receivers at

1228
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 9: the top three are better than they were a year ago.

1229
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 9: You know, last season we were debating between Jordan Addison,

1230
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 9: Jackson Smith and Jigoba and Quinton Johnston. This year, Marvin

1231
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 9: Harrison Junior, I mean he might be the best prospect

1232
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 9: to come along in a decade out of Ohio State.

1233
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 9: Malik Neighbors Rome with Dunze. Those are the top three guys.

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01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 9: I think on almost every single board, all of those

1235
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 9: guys that I think you would see as consistently they

1236
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 9: would all of them would be number one a year ago.

1237
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 9: So I think those three are probably in the top

1238
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 9: half of the first round, maybe even the top ten.

1239
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 9: And then it's a case of you know, Brian thomins

1240
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 9: keyon coleman A d Mitchell's Davy are worthy, maybe Troy Franklin.

1241
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 9: There's gonna be a bunch more of these guys. I

1242
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 9: think he'll get two, maybe three more of them in

1243
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 9: the first round.

1244
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 2: And does anybody Is there anybody that comes to mind

1245
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 2: there with some of that criteria that I mentioned, like

1246
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 2: a high catch rate guy who's a consistent separator, who

1247
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 2: would fall into that bucket if you had to pick

1248
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 2: one or two.

1249
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 9: A name that is sneaking into some first rounds is

1250
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 9: Lad McConkey, the Georgia wide receiver. That guy's got incredible acceleration,

1251
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 9: his blaze outs those kind of routes that Julio Jones

1252
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:46,919
Speaker 9: always used to run, you know, he's sort of fake

1253
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 9: inside and then break right out towards the sideline and

1254
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 9: just leave the DV flying into the middle of the field.

1255
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 9: He runs those as well as anybody I can remember

1256
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 9: seeing since Julio Jones.

1257
01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 1: He's got great hands.

1258
01:06:57,600 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 9: He's a guy I think that would absolutely take those

1259
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 9: box and could easily slip into the first round at

1260
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 9: this point.

1261
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 3: Good stuff, good damn.

1262
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 2: Thanks for the time always, hope you feel better over

1263
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 2: the weekend here and we'll catch up with you down

1264
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 2: the line this offseason.

1265
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 1: Thanks anytime. Guys, thanks for having me.

1266
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 3: Thanks Sam.

1267
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 2: All right, that's Sam monson Pro Football Focus, lead NFL analyst.

1268
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 2: Those guys crunch the numbers over there all the time,

1269
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 2: and they were already headlong into the draft class. So

1270
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 2: we figured we bound some names off of him. See

1271
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 2: what he thought, especially at that receiver position. I like

1272
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 2: mcconachie too.

1273
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 3: I just wish he was four inches taller.

1274
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, we Bills need size in the receiving core, especially

1275
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 2: if Gabe doesn't come back.

1276
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree, and we've talked about it. The

1277
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 3: guys they brought in last year to try and make

1278
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 3: this team couldn't make this team that with those big

1279
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 3: sized guys, you know, like Justin Shorter and Shavers Nowrsel. Yeah,

1280
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 3: they had some guys. We we noticed all through training

1281
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 3: camp how big the wide receiver group was that they

1282
01:07:57,640 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 3: brought in to try out and get on this team,

1283
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 3: and none of them can make. You know, they still

1284
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:05,160
Speaker 3: ended up going with Sherfield and Deontay Hardy and Khalil

1285
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 3: Shakir and Gabe. Tough roster to crack last year. We'll

1286
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 3: see if it's as difficult this year, particularly since it

1287
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 3: seems to me there's even fewer spots.

1288
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I look, I'll be the first to tell you.

1289
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:22,560
Speaker 2: I realize it's hard to find a sure thing just

1290
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 2: about anywhere in the draft after pick fifteen. But man,

1291
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 2: if I'm taking a receiver in the first round, I

1292
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 2: want as close to a sure thing as possible. And

1293
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 2: I don't like what I'm hearing Kean Coleman. There seems

1294
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 2: to be a wide variance of opinion on him, and

1295
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:42,640
Speaker 2: those make any GM nervous. Like when there isn't a

1296
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 2: consensus on somebody and the discerning opinions are more than

1297
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 2: just one or two, that's cause for concern. It makes

1298
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 2: you do more homework to say, well, did I really.

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01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 3: See that right? Maybe I need to go back and

1300
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 3: look again.

1301
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 2: Causes anxiety and consternation among personnel executives. Yeah, I mean,

1302
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 2: you have the courage of your convictions.

1303
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 3: You believe in the guy.

1304
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 2: You believe in the guy. But when you hear differing

1305
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 2: opinions to the degree that we're already hearing on Keon Coleman,

1306
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 2: it makes you wonder a little bit like is it

1307
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:21,680
Speaker 2: worth the risk kind of thing?

1308
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

1309
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 2: He and he and Sam's right, I mean he's got

1310
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:28,879
Speaker 2: some highlight reel stuff that is stupid.

1311
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 3: Like, here's the problem.

1312
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:32,560
Speaker 2: And he's a transfer too, I mean, he was a

1313
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:34,680
Speaker 2: Michigan State goes to Florida State last year.

1314
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 3: All of us fall into this trap where you want

1315
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 3: to get a quick glance at the guy, you go

1316
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 3: to his highlight film.

1317
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 2: You know, and that's the best of the best.

1318
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 3: Just say, does even I have a highlight film, So

1319
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 3: don't get caught up in that. Yeah, I get it,

1320
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 3: I get it. Yeah, I just.

1321
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:55,639
Speaker 2: For the sake of them hitting on it. And look,

1322
01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 2: Brandon means track record in round one is lights out

1323
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 2: since he's been GM at the Bills. I mean you

1324
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 2: can run down the list of his first round picks.

1325
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 3: Listen. Yes, there aren't missus really in there. I agree, Yes,

1326
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 3: I agree. And when this is all said and done

1327
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 3: and we're getting into training camp, I just know, you

1328
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:17,559
Speaker 3: just know there's gonna be a lot to be excited

1329
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:20,720
Speaker 3: about with this club because they are gonna find some

1330
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 3: guys that fit the physical description of what they're looking for,

1331
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 3: and there's gonna be a lot of potential on the field,

1332
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:28,680
Speaker 3: and some of it may be more proven than we're

1333
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 3: ready to believe. They can pay for right now. But

1334
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 3: there's gonna be a ton of them that we're waiting

1335
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 3: to find out about, and we're gonna have high hopes

1336
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 3: that they're gonna be more than what we think they

1337
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 3: can be. That's that's gonna be the fun of it. Well,

1338
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:42,800
Speaker 3: that's fun of it.

1339
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:45,719
Speaker 2: That's why I think I'm a little more excited about

1340
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,560
Speaker 2: this draft class than others, because it's strong at some

1341
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 2: of the positions where the Bills need some help, right

1342
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 2: receiver being one of them. Defensive tackles pretty good. It's

1343
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 2: not as deep as receiver, but it's pretty good.

1344
01:10:56,960 --> 01:11:00,759
Speaker 3: Brown and I were talking yesterday and been going around

1345
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 3: if the Bills like bundle their first and second round pick,

1346
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 3: the twenty eight and the sixtieth pick, and you get

1347
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 3: up to seventy, you can get up all the way

1348
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:15,520
Speaker 3: up to seventeenth, the seventeenth pick this which is Jacksonville,

1349
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 3: so they can They could get up as year, yes, yes,

1350
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 3: and Jacksonville and Cincinnati, so they could conceivably pull off

1351
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 3: a deal like that and give up a draft pick,

1352
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 3: you know, a number two draft pick to jump up

1353
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:38,560
Speaker 3: what amounts to eleven spots in the first round. So

1354
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 3: if one of these guys that we're talking about drops

1355
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 3: that far. You could see him making that quick and

1356
01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 3: easy deal to get a you know, a lead dog.

1357
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:53,639
Speaker 3: It's fun to think about. I don't know if they'll

1358
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:55,680
Speaker 3: do it, and I don't know if they'd have to,

1359
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 3: if they'd want a package a two with the one,

1360
01:11:58,200 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 3: because in there, you know, you get one player for

1361
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 3: two really high picks. Depends on how they feel about

1362
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 3: the guy I would imagine.

1363
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like I said earlier this week, when you're

1364
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:14,720
Speaker 2: picking twenty eight, you're largely at the mercy of what

1365
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 2: unfolds in front of you. There is very little control there, right,

1366
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 2: because even if you want to move up, you're not

1367
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 2: dealing from a position of strength in terms of the

1368
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 2: value of the pick you currently hold anyway, So you're

1369
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 2: already I don't want to say you're at a disadvantage,

1370
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:37,639
Speaker 2: but you're not in an advantageous spot to exercise greater

1371
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 2: control on what is happening in front of you on

1372
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 2: the draft board. And so by virtue of that, you

1373
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 2: just got to take the best hand you are dealt,

1374
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 2: because you are literally when you're picking twenty eight, getting

1375
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:50,720
Speaker 2: dealt cards saying yeah, this card's out of the deck.

1376
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 2: This card's out of the deck. This card's out of

1377
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 2: the deck. Now, let me see you come up with

1378
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 2: a straight flush. Best of luck to you, right, you

1379
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 2: know what I mean, that's what you're up and when

1380
01:12:58,280 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 2: you're picking twenty eighth now.

1381
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 3: And but the problem is, we know from years past,

1382
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 3: and there's tons of anecdotal evidence to say, yeah, you

1383
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:08,720
Speaker 3: can do it.

1384
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 2: Well, yes you can do it.

1385
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 3: You pull Steph Diggs out of the fifth round, you.

1386
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 2: Know, right, that exercise is even more of a needle

1387
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:20,680
Speaker 2: in a haysack. Absolutely, they're trying to do in round

1388
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 2: one along.

1389
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And the problem is too and I and it's

1390
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 3: blasphemy to say, I'm just I'm exaggerating to make a

1391
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 3: point again, Oh you're doing that. There's nothing that says

1392
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:33,559
Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison Junior doing to come out and just flame out,

1393
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 3: gone done, he's horrible whatever. There's nothing says that, there's

1394
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 3: no guarantees in There are no guarantees. So you've really.

1395
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 8: Go.

1396
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 3: You go with your gut and you find out as

1397
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 3: much about these guys as you can possibly find out,

1398
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 3: and you try and keep everything in perspective. You don't

1399
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:53,320
Speaker 3: want to make too much of some wartz that the

1400
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:55,760
Speaker 3: guy has, and you don't want to put too much

1401
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 3: shine on something that wasn't meant to be shiny. Right,

1402
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 3: It's man, it's art. It ain't science as much as

1403
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:06,639
Speaker 3: we'd like to quantify it. It's art, and it's it's

1404
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:08,640
Speaker 3: always going to be. Yeah, it's always going to be.

1405
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:11,719
Speaker 2: Let's go to the phones and to Jim in Rochester.

1406
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:12,679
Speaker 2: What do you got for his Jim?

1407
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:20,640
Speaker 5: Hey, I'm glad to be here, guys. Yeah, got a

1408
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 5: question similar to what I was just hearing about. Was

1409
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 5: I follow a lot of the mock drafts just to

1410
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 5: see it's fun for me to watch them. Yeah, And

1411
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:31,600
Speaker 5: I wondered about one that I just heard about, and

1412
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 5: it was the Bills trading with the Arizona Cardinals Switchbots

1413
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:43,840
Speaker 5: and drafting Marvin Harrison Jr. And in that in that draft,

1414
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:49,720
Speaker 5: they suggested that they give their pick plus Diggs for

1415
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 5: Arizona's fourth pick.

1416
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1417
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 2: You a player would have to be involved, almost certainly, Jim,

1418
01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:01,599
Speaker 2: for that to happen. The only problem with that equation

1419
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 2: is the dead cap hit that Stefan Diggs would represent

1420
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:11,720
Speaker 2: on Buffalo's cap. That's the problem, because I think he's

1421
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:17,679
Speaker 2: making twenty four million this year. And essentially what you've

1422
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 2: got is a guy whose dead cap hit if you

1423
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 2: traded him, would be thirty one million on Buffalo's cap,

1424
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 2: paying you would be you can't afford that. That's why

1425
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 2: I love all this conversation about Diggs. Get Is he

1426
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 2: gonna be here next year? Is he gonna be here

1427
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 2: next year? Just look at the money they can't move

1428
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 2: him if they wanted to thirty one million dead cap.

1429
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:45,719
Speaker 2: That's a death knell for a team that's already fifty

1430
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:51,760
Speaker 2: one over Ye like he's he's gonna be here. And

1431
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 2: while I think, while I agree with you, Jim, I

1432
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:58,560
Speaker 2: think the scenario that you read is accurate from the

1433
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 2: standpoint of yes, if they want to get that high

1434
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:03,720
Speaker 2: up the board, they're probably going to have to put

1435
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 2: a frontline player in the deal to do it, because,

1436
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:09,880
Speaker 2: as Steve calculated yesterday, you'd have to give up your

1437
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 2: entire draft this year and a first rounder next year

1438
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 2: to get up that high just with draft capital, you

1439
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:18,600
Speaker 2: almost certainly would have to put a frontline player in

1440
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:19,680
Speaker 2: there to offset some of that.

1441
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 3: That means you're putting not only what it basically what

1442
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:28,400
Speaker 3: it came down to is it wasn't enough to put

1443
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 3: all ten of this year's draft picks and trade to

1444
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 3: trade the Arizona Cardinals for that pick at four, at

1445
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:40,599
Speaker 3: number four, there's not enough on the value chart. That's

1446
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 3: not enough. So you're thinking, so conversely, you're saying that

1447
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 3: Steph Diggs is more valuable than nine picks in the

1448
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 3: NFL draft, starting from the twenty eighth pick all the

1449
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:57,560
Speaker 3: way down through ten picks. That's a big ask. And

1450
01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 3: Arizona would would laugh in your face. They would absolutely

1451
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 3: laugh in your face if you offered him that deal.

1452
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:07,599
Speaker 3: Oh you think so, Yeah, probably they're not gonna trade

1453
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:11,639
Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison Junior for Steph Diggs and nothing right.

1454
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 2: That's and that's if he's even on the board.

1455
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:16,639
Speaker 3: It for they get a guy who they may feel

1456
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 3: is gonna be better right out of the gate than

1457
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 3: Steph Diggs and is significantly cheaper. So they're gonna be.

1458
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:27,920
Speaker 2: Like, as we said, the dead cap hit is two

1459
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:30,600
Speaker 2: costs prohibitive to make that happen. Anyway, Gotta take a

1460
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:32,720
Speaker 2: break here. When we come back, might be time for

1461
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 2: a little NFL true false, Steve, it's been a minute.

1462
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 2: They have to pull that out of the vault and

1463
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:39,719
Speaker 2: see what we have on the agenda when we return

1464
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live, presented by Colida Health, It's

1465
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:52,799
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, back here on a Friday

1466
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live. We'll get back to the phone

1467
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 2: calls in just a second, but before we do that,

1468
01:17:56,400 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 2: we do a little NFL True False presented by Trong Tequila,

1469
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:05,559
Speaker 2: the official tequila of the Buffalo Bills, and we begin

1470
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 2: with true false question number one. Steve Texans quarterback C. J.

1471
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 2: Stroud was the biggest surprise of the twenty twenty three season.

1472
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 3: True or false?

1473
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say true, you would.

1474
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Texans are like two years or eighteen months

1475
01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:31,720
Speaker 3: out of being a laughingstock of a franchise. And you know,

1476
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:38,080
Speaker 3: they hired their Pico Ryan Jamiko Ryans as a it

1477
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:41,840
Speaker 3: seemed like a fallback measure. It seemed like a concession

1478
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 3: to the fact that they couldn't get anybody to say

1479
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 3: yes kind of thing. They'd take Stroud, who was considered like,

1480
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:51,360
Speaker 3: you know, they didn't draft him number one overall, right,

1481
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:54,720
Speaker 3: they took him number two so they can get the

1482
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 3: top guy. Yeah, I would say yes, absolutely, he took

1483
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:03,640
Speaker 3: the Texans the playoffs. I think he's gotta be the

1484
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 3: biggest surprise of the season.

1485
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 2: I think because he was drafted so high, you're expecting

1486
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:11,840
Speaker 2: him to play with some measure of ability. Did I

1487
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:13,599
Speaker 2: expect him to take off the way he didn't leave

1488
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:17,960
Speaker 2: the team to the playoffs. No, the bigger surprise, I'm

1489
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:20,640
Speaker 2: gonna say false, because the bigger surprise for me is

1490
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 2: a fifth round draft choice by the name of Poka Nakua.

1491
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 2: That's the biggest surprise in the entire season for me.

1492
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 2: That guy tore the league up.

1493
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:32,440
Speaker 3: What did he have? One hundred and twenty five receptions?

1494
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 3: That's insane and I know it sounds sacritos. I get it.

1495
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 3: He and wow, fifth round pick Pukah, kudos man, that's awesome.

1496
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 3: I just got to say this. That position is about

1497
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 3: opportunity and getting the ball thrown at you and playing

1498
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:54,600
Speaker 3: for the Rams. That's a great spot to land. I

1499
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:56,680
Speaker 3: think there's a couple of guys in the draft in

1500
01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:59,599
Speaker 3: this draft who would have had the season Pooka Nakua

1501
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 3: had if they'd been switched places. You know, some other

1502
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:02,840
Speaker 3: wide nos.

1503
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:05,880
Speaker 2: One hundred and five receptions for fourteen hundred and eighty

1504
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 2: six yards.

1505
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:08,160
Speaker 3: I think there are other guys who can play as

1506
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 3: well as Puka. I don't know that there's any quarterbacks

1507
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 3: in this draft that would have played as well as c. J.

1508
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 3: Stroud did in Houston if they'd been like if you know,

1509
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 3: he came out of nowhere, that's that's that's truth that

1510
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:22,840
Speaker 3: I that is true. He was a bigger surprise that

1511
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:25,680
Speaker 3: he He was an easter egg, no question about it.

1512
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:27,760
Speaker 3: That guy is like, Wow, look at look what they found.

1513
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:32,680
Speaker 2: NFL true false Number two The Bears will trade quarterback

1514
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:34,360
Speaker 2: Justin Fields.

1515
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 3: I think yes, I think it's true. I think they're

1516
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 3: gonna could because I think that's the road to botching

1517
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 3: this whole thing, and that's what the Bears are gonna do.

1518
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:50,640
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna botch it. I think that's the

1519
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 3: way they do it. I don't know how good Justin

1520
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:55,599
Speaker 3: Fields is ever gonna be. I really don't. I don't

1521
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:59,160
Speaker 3: think you can get a fair a fair assessment of

1522
01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 3: how good or bad that he is playing for that

1523
01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:06,840
Speaker 3: franchise over the last two years. I think he has

1524
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:09,880
Speaker 3: a chance to be good. I don't know how good,

1525
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:11,919
Speaker 3: but better than he was in Chicago.

1526
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you read anything into the fact that The

1527
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 2: Bears brought in a new offensive coordinator in Shane Waldron

1528
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:25,599
Speaker 2: this this offseason. Does that Does that lend greater credence

1529
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:27,560
Speaker 2: to your belief that they'll trade him? Or do you

1530
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 2: think they're trying to fix whatever is missing in their

1531
01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:33,640
Speaker 2: offense to help justin fields? How do you see the

1532
01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 2: coordinator change as it pertains to fields.

1533
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:39,519
Speaker 3: Good, bad, or in different Well, if they're gonna change,

1534
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:43,640
Speaker 3: that's a good question. I don't know. I don't know

1535
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:46,680
Speaker 3: that it has to do with fields, Okay, I think

1536
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 3: it hasn't. Might have to do with the next.

1537
01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 2: Guy, Okay, So yeah, so you see it as a negative,

1538
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:52,679
Speaker 2: okay for free for fields.

1539
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 3: As far as fields, well, what it could be a

1540
01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, I don't and it may have. It

1541
01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 3: may be reflect on what they saw.

1542
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 2: Over that guy's got to start over again.

1543
01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:04,680
Speaker 3: If he stays there, new offense, you know what I mean,

1544
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 3: they're gonna botch it. Uh yeah, I don't know what

1545
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:10,800
Speaker 3: it is.

1546
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 2: I think somebody's gonna make I tend to agree with you,

1547
01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 2: I say true. I think somebody's gonna make a sweet

1548
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 2: enough deal to convince them to move on from him,

1549
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:20,519
Speaker 2: and they'll restart the clock at the quarterback position.

1550
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:24,160
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I think they will. And I think I

1551
01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:27,680
Speaker 3: mean ibra Flus is gonna be history there after this

1552
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 3: next year.

1553
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:30,720
Speaker 2: Well, if you get a new quarterback, you could buy

1554
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 2: a little more time. Your gam and your head coach

1555
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 2: can go to the ownership and be like, look, just

1556
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 2: grafted a rookie quarterback.

1557
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:39,960
Speaker 3: We need a little more time. And if they show

1558
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:42,640
Speaker 3: up with it. That's if they show up with a

1559
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:46,240
Speaker 3: bad offensive line. Again, fire everybody.

1560
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 2: That's why some people have mocked Joe alt You know,

1561
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:54,120
Speaker 2: John Altson to be the first pick in the draft

1562
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:56,200
Speaker 2: of the Bears. True false.

1563
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:56,680
Speaker 3: Number three.

1564
01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh will lead the Chargers to the playoffs in

1565
01:22:59,240 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four.

1566
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 3: All right, I'm I'm thinking it's gonna be a wild

1567
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:08,560
Speaker 3: card berth right, because the Chiefs are gonna win on

1568
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:14,840
Speaker 3: having the Chiefs in the division Denver, and then you

1569
01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:18,120
Speaker 3: get Raiders teams like Raiders are gonna Raiders are gonna

1570
01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 3: be fourth in that division. But then you gotta count

1571
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 3: wild cards. You only have three in the AFC, right,

1572
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 3: and you had three in the NFC AFC North this year.

1573
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 3: The Bengals Pittsburgh and the Browns and the Bengals, good grief,

1574
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 3: they're gonna they may win it next year. That's hard,

1575
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 3: that's a hard row, and.

1576
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:46,200
Speaker 2: They have some cap issues. So I'm leaning false here.

1577
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:47,880
Speaker 2: I think they'll be now they.

1578
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 3: Are playing They are playing Denver twice, the Raiders twice,

1579
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:54,680
Speaker 3: and all those AFC North teams could knock each other,

1580
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 3: particularly if Joe Burrows tasts healthy.

1581
01:23:58,080 --> 01:23:59,840
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if it does happen.

1582
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:02,200
Speaker 7: I don't know.

1583
01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 3: That's something tells me that's a big ask in year one,

1584
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:09,120
Speaker 3: Like maybe it doesn't. Maybe I think Jim we've seen

1585
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:12,479
Speaker 3: that he's a fixer, Harbaugh, Harbor straight and he'll straighten

1586
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:13,800
Speaker 3: them out quick. So I'm gonna say, you know what,

1587
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:16,760
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say. Yes, I'm gonna say yes because of

1588
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 3: the weak division, aside from the Chiefs and the AFC

1589
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 3: North just being too good too. You know, it's gonna

1590
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 3: be too competitive for those teams to have to run

1591
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:34,120
Speaker 3: off and leave anybody. I don't think Baltimore's gonna have

1592
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:35,880
Speaker 3: the kind of year they had this year. Next year,

1593
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:38,559
Speaker 3: I think Cincinnati will have a better year. In fact,

1594
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 3: Baltimore Cincinnati may flip hmm. All four of those teams

1595
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:48,439
Speaker 3: had a winning record in the AFC North. That's rare

1596
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 3: all four teams. So I'm gonna say, yeah, I think

1597
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:53,760
Speaker 3: there is gonna be room at the top, and I

1598
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:56,680
Speaker 3: think the Chargers may be the team that slips in.

1599
01:24:57,439 --> 01:25:00,760
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, that is NFL True Fall presented by

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01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:03,720
Speaker 2: Patron Tequila. Let's jump back on the phones and go

1601
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:05,040
Speaker 2: to Ryan in Toronto.

1602
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 10: What's up, Ryan, Chris, Steve, how are you guys?

1603
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:08,800
Speaker 5: Good?

1604
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 3: Good?

1605
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 5: So, Mike.

1606
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:15,599
Speaker 10: My comment is this whole station is how the Bills

1607
01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:18,439
Speaker 10: are in right now. All I think started with twenty

1608
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:26,040
Speaker 10: nineteen draft when the Bills traded for Chaffon Diggs to

1609
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 10: the Minnesota Vikings and the Vikings picked up with that trade. Yes,

1610
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:35,639
Speaker 10: just in Jefficon. If you would have kept that trade

1611
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:40,240
Speaker 10: and take Jeficon, he's twenty four years old with a contract,

1612
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 10: we will not be in a situation where we're looking

1613
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 10: for a wide receiver and will not have we to

1614
01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:47,960
Speaker 10: have a Saunded cap.

1615
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:48,479
Speaker 8: Hit right now.

1616
01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:51,479
Speaker 10: I don't want to hear you comments, yeah, I that's true.

1617
01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:54,160
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's only partially true. And the reason

1618
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 2: why I say that, Ryan is because the Vikings have

1619
01:25:57,080 --> 01:25:58,840
Speaker 2: to pay him, right now. Yeah, now the bike and

1620
01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:01,280
Speaker 2: they're going to have to pay him more than Stefan

1621
01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 2: Diggs is making. So that's number one. Second part is

1622
01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 2: you want to swap one number one wide receiver for

1623
01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 2: the other, that's fine. The bottom line is the Bills

1624
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:15,439
Speaker 2: still need a number two. They still need a number two,

1625
01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:18,000
Speaker 2: whether it's Jefferson or Diggs. As you're one, you still

1626
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 2: need a number two. So Jefferson's gonna get paid this

1627
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 2: offseason and watch. I guarantee you it will be more

1628
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 2: than what Diggs is making. That's first. Second, they still

1629
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:30,120
Speaker 2: need a number two guy.

1630
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:34,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, they still need another guy. But you're right, you

1631
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:36,880
Speaker 3: can make say what you want about the last four years.

1632
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 3: But I don't think too many Bills fans would trade

1633
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:42,639
Speaker 3: Steph Diggs back, you know they. I think he's had

1634
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:46,360
Speaker 3: a raam here benefited. Yeah, it was a win win. Certainly,

1635
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 3: Diggs was more proven on the at the time of

1636
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:51,000
Speaker 3: the trade. They didn't know if Justin Jefferson was going

1637
01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:54,559
Speaker 3: to be there. But hey, power to them, man, they

1638
01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:58,360
Speaker 3: did it. But I don't think the Bills would would

1639
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 3: switch up on that trade. And Brownie's right, we may

1640
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:07,040
Speaker 3: not have this salary cap. We might not be over

1641
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:09,600
Speaker 3: fifty million dollars right now with the salary cap, but

1642
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:13,240
Speaker 3: we'd beheaded there very soon, very soon, because you got

1643
01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:16,560
Speaker 3: to pay Justin Jefferson even more. He's right, and you

1644
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:19,160
Speaker 3: still one for one. You're still down a guy. You

1645
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:21,880
Speaker 3: still need a guy in this Nothing has changed in

1646
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 3: this draft, if all things are equal. So it's yes,

1647
01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:27,759
Speaker 3: the point is taken. They would have not been paying

1648
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:31,920
Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson what they have paid steff On Diggs, and

1649
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:33,800
Speaker 3: they could have used that money somewhere else.

1650
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:35,840
Speaker 2: But those chickens are coming home to Roosterol right now.

1651
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, I think. But then again, the Minnesota

1652
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 3: Vikings haven't gotten a whiff of what the Bills have.

1653
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:48,920
Speaker 3: The success the Bills have had over the last four years. Now,

1654
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 3: you can say that's the difference between Kirk Cousins and

1655
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:53,400
Speaker 3: Josh Allen and all listen, but that you know, you

1656
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 3: still the Bills have had a swing at it four

1657
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:59,840
Speaker 3: straight years, and that's really what you're after. You got

1658
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:02,160
Speaker 3: and now they wont another one for they want five

1659
01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 3: straight years. Let's go, that's what they're gonna do.

1660
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:07,120
Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here. Some final thoughts when we return,

1661
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:10,000
Speaker 2: maybe a tweetsheet comment or two here on one Bill's

1662
01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:27,120
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1663
01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:29,759
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1665
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:36,719
Speaker 2: Barbera asks, if Vaughan retires in exchange for a position

1666
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:38,640
Speaker 2: in the GM office, which is where he wants to

1667
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:41,519
Speaker 2: be eventually, would that wipe out his cap hit? No,

1668
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:44,960
Speaker 2: The only part of his cap hit that could be

1669
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 2: wiped out would be the portion of the signing bonus

1670
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:51,840
Speaker 2: that the Bills would want back based on the number

1671
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:54,080
Speaker 2: of years lopped off of his contract, which would be

1672
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:57,840
Speaker 2: the final three or four if he retires before the

1673
01:28:57,880 --> 01:29:00,200
Speaker 2: season starts, so that would be like eighteen and a

1674
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 2: quarter million they would get back. That would be the

1675
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 2: only stuff that comes off the cap ed asks, will

1676
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:09,360
Speaker 2: Brandon Bean be using a scalpel, chainsaw, machete, or pizza

1677
01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:12,240
Speaker 2: cutter when dealing with roster adjustments this offseason?

1678
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:14,360
Speaker 3: I think he'd like to use a scalpel.

1679
01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:17,120
Speaker 2: Steve may have to resort to a pizza cutter.

1680
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:19,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, the pizza cutter is probably a little more accurate,

1681
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 3: maybe a straight edge.

1682
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:24,759
Speaker 2: It might not he wants to cut a fine line,

1683
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:26,519
Speaker 2: but it may have to be a little bit bigger

1684
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:29,760
Speaker 2: than even he wants. That's it for us this week.

1685
01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:33,599
Speaker 2: Tune in next week for the exciting continuation of One

1686
01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:36,680
Speaker 2: Bill's Live Chris Brown and Steve Tasker whisking you a

1687
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:40,080
Speaker 2: good weekend. Stay warm out there, everybody, We'll see on Monday.