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Speaker 1: just released, which is talking about Pooles not being considered

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Speaker 1: a candidate anymore. There had been mutual interest, but the

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Speaker 1: Team also has wanted to speak with ex managers like

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Speaker 1: Kurtzuzuki's in the mix, Tory Hunters in the Yeah. So

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Speaker 1: it sounded like Artie Marina wanted Albert Albert I think

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Speaker 1: and they couldn't see to eye on money. There was

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Speaker 1: he kind of mentioned how the Angels have a little

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Speaker 1: I think on the personal services agreement, it's a million

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Speaker 1: numbers for a team. Although Arty Moreno likes to yes,

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Speaker 1: this is different, but Artie.

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Speaker 2: Is not going to double dip either, like I'll pay

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Speaker 3: That's a problem.

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Speaker 1: But if the way I understood it was if Poohols

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Speaker 2: That makes sense. You can't do that either, right.

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Speaker 1: So the Angels would have gotten that money removed each

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Speaker 1: a little play. And I think Artie used that as

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Speaker 1: I want to get paid pretty well. Then they both

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Speaker 2: I mean, I thought this was gonna be done. I really,

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Speaker 2: when I talked to you, thought this was a done

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Speaker 2: deal with Arty though already something always seems apart. They

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Speaker 2: tomorrow sham Blum could be writing Albert Poolholes as the

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Speaker 3: Artie's a wake up and change your mind guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Remember when Garret Colton signed there, He went out

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Speaker 1: Remember when he put the team up for sale and

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Speaker 3: It's his team.

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Speaker 4: I always bring up like I always bring up old stuff.

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Speaker 4: I mean, maybe maybe Artie's changing. He sees this youth

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Speaker 2: This is gonna be the new Angels.

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Speaker 4: We're phasing Mike Trout out for the next seven years.

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Speaker 4: I'm not just going for advertising dollars. Even though I

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Speaker 4: more tickets and more advertising, I'm not. I'm not the

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Speaker 3: Okay, it is a good point.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Arty Morin acts big names as much as

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Speaker 2: That ticket that wouldn't care about winning.

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Speaker 3: No, he doesn't always.

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Speaker 1: Maybe just told before the starting pitching conversation for years back,

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Speaker 1: when they only pitch every fifth day? Need every day

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Speaker 1: guys that we can market around. Well, it's funny. That's

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Speaker 2: Well then you know what, then he should go on

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Speaker 3: That's true. You can market market.

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Speaker 3: They did that already.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like, if he doesn't like starting pitchers,

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Speaker 4: He wants guys to play every day. He wants guys

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Speaker 1: I know, as much as we're joking around, I actually

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Speaker 3: Spot for him.

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Speaker 2: So no pressure's fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like if you're going to the Orioles or the Braves, right,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, oh, there's been guys that have done Okay.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, boony Cora. Right, there's guys that are managing

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Speaker 2: Freddie Peralta, I'm surprised Contreras hasn't been mentioned either.

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Speaker 3: Also, well, he has more time left.

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Speaker 3: Ist free agency twenty twenty eighth.

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Speaker 1: So he said out of time, maybe after next season,

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Speaker 2: Years after his rookie year. Right, But for Freddie p

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Speaker 2: this is last year of his deal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and his contract is eight million bucks.

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Speaker 2: As crazy still get his numbers of this year.

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Speaker 3: He's top five pitcher in the National League. I know, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: He's going to be highly coveted if that's what they

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Speaker 3: He does.

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Speaker 1: He's durable. But this is what they do. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Swing Julie Ortiz.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all all contributors. Obviously, you know Hall maybe not

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Speaker 1: in the wed good reporting over the weekend from the

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Speaker 1: Athletic and Rosenbaulin Company talking about the Giants closing in

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Speaker 1: on hiring a Tennessee coach, Tony Bytello as next manager.

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Speaker 1: And if you're you're watching right now and you're not

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Speaker 3: He's, i would say, a media darling, right.

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Speaker 1: He's just very highly regarded in a number of components.

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Speaker 1: Is he the number one most successful college baseball coach? No,

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Speaker 1: but what he's done has stood out anyway. Buster Posey's like,

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Speaker 2: scare them do this. You're getta run, Yeah, Tony kick rocks, Dude, you.

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Speaker 3: Have whatever eight year contract. Get out of mind?

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Like, was he gonna tell Raffie Devers? You know, like,

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Speaker 1: I need that every time. The thing about it about

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Speaker 2: Okay, I just want to say every GM president that

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Speaker 1: But doesn't this seem like a more high risk h.

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Speaker 2: This is a very high risk move one problem. Only

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Speaker 4: With how many gms? How many gms do you trust?

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Speaker 4: I'm saying I trust him.

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Speaker 6: I get it.

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Speaker 4: I get it that when the Giants hired Gabe cap Where,

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Speaker 6: Like, I will do whatever it takes because I am

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Speaker 4: The box, he's not looking to hope to win. He's

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Speaker 3: And also gonna pay him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's the second highest paid college baseball coach

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's gonna have to get probably five million

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Speaker 1: Stuff, and probably at least four years maybe five. Right

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Speaker 1: if you're proaching a guy because you can you can

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Speaker 4: I think he's getting under Do you think? Do you

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Speaker 4: I don't care what anybody else thinks. I think a

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Speaker 4: the rest of Major League Baseball's gonna allow the Giants

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Speaker 4: he's got experience, nobody's gonna come in with as much

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Speaker 4: three million Kevin Cash is gonna be like, uh, STU,

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Speaker 4: can you give me the name of the new owners

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Speaker 4: of the team, because I need a race, Eric Meander, Please,

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Speaker 1: Hey, congrats to Martin Maldonado. He announced his retirement over

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Speaker 2: I don't know, never did. I'll let you know what

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Speaker 2: it does. Martin. Congratulations on a great career, and.

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Speaker 1: From then on he said, I think I got to

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Speaker 2: For an unbelievable career. He's a really nice guy to

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Speaker 1: You can tell why he succeeded though, right like, got

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Speaker 2: Career, Yeah, unbelievable career. Good for you, my shit take.

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Speaker 1: Fifteen years, had a great run, a long time, a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, winning player.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you can appreciate crafts what he did, and

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Speaker 4: Should should have could have been a forever backup. Continue

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Speaker 4: That's why you're retiring, Martin. Oh you want to be

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Speaker 4: Good luck.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of phone calls to that. I need you,

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Speaker 2: You. I am focused on the show. You got a

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Speaker 4: Sorry, Scott, nobody calls you, don't. Don't be jealousy does?

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Speaker 3: Really they text you?

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Speaker 2: Unless it's like my kids or somebody, and I usually

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Speaker 1: The Astros signed up Nate Pearson one year, one point

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Speaker 3: It hasn't worked out.

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Speaker 2: He was hurt though. For a while. They tried him

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Speaker 1: You can't throw strikes this this past year he barely

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Speaker 3: You never know.

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Speaker 1: I think Dana Brown was working maybe for the Blue

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Speaker 2: One point three five million.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, teams do this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you throw something at him now and see if

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Speaker 4: He looks good in the showcase.

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Speaker 3: What is he like?

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Speaker 4: you could see the ball out of his hand really,

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Speaker 4: Well i'm not sure what it. WAS i just remember

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Speaker 4: facing him when he first came up