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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm all, I'm Rory, and we are starting for

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Speaker 3: the first time the best of the week.

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Speaker 2: Knew Rory and mall because they need more. Yes, Rory and.

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Speaker 3: All all of our amazing moments. We understand people are busy.

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Speaker 3: If it gets to those weeks. On Sundays, you can

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Speaker 3: come right here and get the best of what happened

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Speaker 3: from this entire week Monday through Sunday. The best of us, Yes,

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Speaker 3: because two of us pressure bus pipe exactly every Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Best of us, best of us, best of Rory mal

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Speaker 3: best of us, the best of us. We'll give you

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Speaker 3: the best of us. Yeah, mom, only the best. This

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Speaker 3: is only for the best, for the best.

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Speaker 2: Peas drop that beat.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, Carry Elson was on the Breakfast Club, and

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Speaker 3: of course they brought up the infamous Carry Hilson Beyonce.

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Speaker 3: But that's been like kind of a myth that's never

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Speaker 3: really been addressed for over a decade. I feel like

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Speaker 3: now the Turning Me on remix where Carrie Hilson had

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Speaker 3: the bars, because you're turning me off. Your vision cloudy

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Speaker 3: if you think that you're the best. You can dance,

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Speaker 3: you can sing, but you need to move it to

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Speaker 3: the left, to the left.

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Speaker 2: Coincidence, right, I think so.

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Speaker 4: I think the fuck not you trick ass.

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Speaker 2: I think they were that's how you feel about Carrie.

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Speaker 4: No, that's a that's a meme. Sorry, I think the

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Speaker 4: funk not you trick as, which is a meme, not Carrie.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, but carry Elson said it's a regret. Oh is it, Carrie?

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Speaker 2: Do you regret that.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna let y'all do that, because yes, that

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Speaker 3: was a big pivot in her career.

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Speaker 5: I thought it was. I thought, I mean, naturally, you know,

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Speaker 5: I understand how fan bases turned and you know, you

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Speaker 5: go to anybody going at you know, Beyonce, this is

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Speaker 5: how it probably would turn out for you, especially if

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Speaker 5: you're an artist.

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Speaker 3: Well, you couldn't really clock fan bases at that time.

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Speaker 3: It was and everything was on the internet. So the

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Speaker 3: myth really became that like Beyonce had some like New

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Speaker 3: Orleans creole voodoo that just stopped her career at that time.

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Speaker 3: That's what the fans think. But I'm sure there was

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Speaker 3: some stuff behind the scenes, like let's not act like

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Speaker 3: artists don't do that when they have power to shut

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Speaker 5: I can promise you Beyonce didn't have anything shut down

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Speaker 5: for curriers.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I don't think Beyonce did either. But I'm not

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Speaker 3: saying people close to Beyonce didn't.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know, Mat. I think people put

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Speaker 5: too much into that.

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Speaker 3: Publicists used to have a lot of power. Let's not

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Speaker 3: act like back in the day publicists. We're not right

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Speaker 3: next to the fucking CEO of the label. As far

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Speaker 3: as who could push what button? I could see a

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Speaker 3: publicist doing that shit.

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Speaker 2: All right, you want to play.

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Speaker 6: As far as that's with anything, though, when you have

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Speaker 6: when you're as successful as Beyonce was in O nine,

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Speaker 6: and I would have to Josh, can you look up

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Speaker 6: what if Beyonce's was out during nine?

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Speaker 4: If you say, oh, if you if the team.

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Speaker 6: Goes, oh, if you work with this person, I won't

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Speaker 6: work with this person when it comes to I mean,

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Speaker 6: we won't work with you anymore, whether it comes to producers, songwriters,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it starts a lot of.

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Speaker 3: The reference tracks and all those ideas you were being

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Speaker 4: Oh that was single Lady's time clipped, hang it up,

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Speaker 3: Let's not act like Kerry Nilson was not at least

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Speaker 3: a big factor at that time. And first of all,

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Speaker 3: that record did work outside.

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Speaker 2: Of the disc record like.

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Speaker 6: The remix didn't even work, like nobody really pay in

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Speaker 6: the remix though the turn of Me on regular song

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Speaker 3: One and everyone was remixing it. That was one of

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Speaker 3: act like Carry wasn't with pold Doon at the time,

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Speaker 2: He needs to be up there.

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Speaker 3: I wish he did a verses so people like could

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Speaker 3: realize what his catalog is like. Poladn was one of

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Speaker 3: but that's not the way people would think, because that's

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Speaker 3: If you weren't around for that era. Esther Dean, who's

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Speaker 3: one of the greatest writers of our generation, was writing

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Speaker 3: a lot of the hits at that time, especially with Polo,

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Speaker 3: and she wrote a lot of stuff for Carry. So

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Speaker 3: she was suggesting everyone was mad at me, but I

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Speaker 3: didn't write it, Harry, If it worked, would you be.

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Speaker 2: Saying this like that kind of be my my only

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Speaker 2: issue with carry here. If that would have worked.

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Speaker 5: And like and Carrie became bigger as a result of that, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if it worked the way we saw a fifty

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Speaker 3: someone else. No, it didn't work. So now you're going

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Speaker 3: back to a regular thing within pop music. Esther was

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Speaker 3: writing for everyone at that time you recorded it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: probably a bunch of takes found the one you liked

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Speaker 3: the best with the picture. I understand that you were

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Speaker 3: being pressured by the producer and your team and all that,

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Speaker 3: but you have the final say. Even with the pressure,

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Speaker 3: which I get, you still have the final say. I

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Speaker 3: appreciate that you're coming back and saying yo, I regret that.

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Speaker 3: I'm fine with you saying you had pressure from your team,

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Speaker 3: But don't be like.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it wasn't even me. I didn't even write it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean saying it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, But again, I like you know the way you're

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Speaker 5: posing question. If it worked, would she be saying is

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Speaker 5: she wouldn't need to be saying if it worked.

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Speaker 3: If someone brought that up, let's say, in this hypothetical,

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Speaker 3: we're not even going to go with that it destroyed

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Speaker 3: Beyonce's career, because that's a joke even in hypothetical. But

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Speaker 3: let's say it made carry bigger and she was doing

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Speaker 3: her legacy tour. Shit, sat with Charlemagne and he was like, yo,

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Speaker 3: that time when you dis Beyonce, that was kind of

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Speaker 3: she would have went it was CRAZYU I didn't even

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Speaker 3: I was a little nervous, like we were dissing someone

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she would have went that route.

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Speaker 6: Of course, she would have still said she regretted it though,

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Speaker 6: because whether it worked for her or destroyed her career,

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Speaker 6: it was lean because Beyonce hadn't did anything to her.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a woman grow.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, as a person, you grow and you mature, you older,

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Speaker 5: you look back at a lot of shit like that

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Speaker 2: Like yes, I mean, I'm.

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Speaker 5: Not saying she would have said, you know, I didn't

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Speaker 5: would have still you know what fifteen years later, sixteen

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Speaker 5: Like no, that would just be absolutely crazy for how

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean a lot of stuff she put

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Speaker 3: on Polo, like I don't know if this is true.

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Speaker 3: My album wasn't Now Yes, it was like, you're not

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Speaker 3: coming out if you didn't do this. I made that mistake,

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Speaker 3: which again maybe this did happen behind closed doors, but

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Speaker 3: I also don't think a producer like Poles down that

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Speaker 2: Not putting you out.

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Speaker 3: That someone had the talent of carry Hilson and had wrecked,

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Speaker 3: Like I find that a little odd too. But then

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Speaker 3: Esterdine had came out went on ig and said, you know,

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Speaker 3: or less that she didn't feel great about it either,

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Speaker 2: But she said she wrote like four or five verses

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Speaker 3: Submitted all of them wasn't even there and that's the

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Speaker 3: one they picked. So like, what do you want from me.

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Speaker 3: I gave you a bunch of different versions. That's the

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Speaker 3: one you picked. Then, carry Hilson replied and said, don't

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Speaker 3: It's still co written. Yeah, but I've never seen someone

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Speaker 5: Car Yeah, but all of this is like, I get

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Speaker 5: people still talking about that it's Beyonce. I get it,

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Speaker 5: But it's been fifteen sixty years, man, Like, do people

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Speaker 4: Carrie cares?

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Speaker 3: It's still brought up in the a niche community of

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Speaker 6: Every time Carrie Wilson opens her mouth. Krrie Wilson, Carry

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Speaker 6: Hills said, Carrie, I'm thinking about see her.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 6: Anytime Carrie Hilson opens her mouth, people are reminded, like

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Speaker 6: damn that voodoo really worked every single time. It's always

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Speaker 6: brought up every single time she's in any interview, comments everything,

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Speaker 4: It sucks because it would have nice.

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Speaker 6: It would have been nice to see her have a

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Speaker 6: a longer career. But then again, who's to say if

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Speaker 6: she didn't this Beyonce, that she wouldn't have went away anyway?

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Speaker 6: We always say oh yeah, like people even when people

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Speaker 6: and this is not no, I don't even actually I'm

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Speaker 6: even gonna say that, but there are people that have

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Speaker 6: the biggest thing, And it's like, you don't know that.

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Speaker 6: We've had so many pop girls that were huge and

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Speaker 5: Yeah, people love doing that though Yo, so and so

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Speaker 5: didn't die, this person win the Blue. It's like, fim,

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Speaker 5: it's a lot of dudes that still allow from the

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Speaker 5: era that ain't shit.

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Speaker 4: Ain't shit And there was that guy, a lot of.

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Speaker 2: Trash music, trash albums, trash.

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Speaker 5: It's like, so we're not going to just make it

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Speaker 5: seem like that person would have been on top or

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Speaker 5: it's just like I hate when people do that. That's

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Speaker 5: just like a talk because you can't prove it because

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Speaker 5: the persons no longer hear unfortunately.

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Speaker 2: But I mean Carrie had Knock You Down with Neil

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Speaker 2: and Kanye, like.

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Speaker 3: I thought that record was no she has some Carry

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Speaker 3: Jlson has some pretty Girl Rock was fire, she had

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Speaker 3: some records.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but one could make the case that it just

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Speaker 2: was never the same after that. Yeah, I get it,

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Speaker 2: I understand. I think it's cool that you're owning up

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Speaker 2: to it and regretting it. I think that type of

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Speaker 6: But I mean, I guess the owner still falls on

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Speaker 3: So and I feel like, and again no disrespect to

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Speaker 2: You think I even think about that remix?

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Speaker 5: Life, nor Carry Wilson have records.

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Speaker 3: Now I'm saying from Esther Dean's side, like, do you

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Speaker 5: I just don't I just don't like people bringing up

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And also if you're submitting three different ideas like

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Speaker 5: Yo at all.

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Speaker 2: Facts wrote sex Therapy.

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Speaker 4: And back to the Crib. Remember y'all don't remember back

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Speaker 3: One of the rapist hooks of all time. Yeah, I know, yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's what Esther should be coming to the podium for.

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Speaker 4: She wrote sex Therapy.

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Speaker 6: That's one of my favorite songs in the world, Like

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Speaker 6: by Robin Think. Oh, that's a classic.

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Speaker 5: Yes, indeed, is not tripping about nothing. She's good, she's comfortable.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I mean shit, some of the biggest Chris

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Speaker 6: But damn invented head by Chris Brown. Y'all, wasn't there

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Speaker 5: Grade, fourteen years old. You ain't know nothing about No.

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Speaker 6: No, Carrie Hilton Trey songs and usher, I'm about to

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Speaker 4: Carrie got him like, what's next?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 4: You were thirty and I'm gonna make it my duty

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Speaker 2: Please?

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Speaker 4: Y'all wasn't outside?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you wasn't outside. You was nine years old. It

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Speaker 4: I was on Facebook.

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Speaker 6: We in the lyrics because that was back before your

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Speaker 2: Talking crazy you.

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Speaker 5: You would have been one of them girls that was

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Speaker 3: I can see it saying you invented sex when your

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Speaker 2: No, they invented you with sex, know, they invented sex. Kids.

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Speaker 2: Shut off your face, try poked.

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Speaker 4: Kids trying to get poked.

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Speaker 5: Well like in you know, true fashion, true true white

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Speaker 5: Like, actually we can't talk about rap. What I was

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Speaker 5: All right, So this is mount Rushmore obviously, Eminem recipes

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Speaker 5: Just like it was a he had leaving conditioner in

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Speaker 2: I don't know if Paul wall is on the white

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Speaker 3: Again established what Mount Rushmore's well, the ones that kind

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Speaker 4: So you would take Paul wall off before Russ if

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't say I'm not. I didn't

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Speaker 2: The only case I would make for Mac.

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Speaker 3: it went outside of Eminem. It was kind of corny

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Speaker 3: for it was mc search and Beastie Boys, which was cool, they're.

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Speaker 3: Then it was like corny for a while, then it

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Speaker 3: I think it's a forefather of the new white rapper.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean a lot of white rappers that are

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Speaker 3: We can't put I guess all the Beastie Boys, And

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Speaker 2: I'm dead. Hmmm. Yeah, I don't know about Vanilla Ice.

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Speaker 3: Why how is he not one of the forefathers of

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Speaker 3: how is that not a forefather of You're right, forefather?

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Speaker 2: You're right?

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Speaker 2: You would have to. You would have to have Vanilla. Iusta,

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Speaker 3: I think you could put LP up there, even from

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Speaker 5: I might be swinging for the fence here, but Marky

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Speaker 2: Oh, house of Pain definitely has to be a Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Wait, Marky Mark is Mark Wahlberg.

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Speaker 6: Yes, no, he's Markie Martin. I knew no listen, I

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's Mark Wahlberg, the legend, that's the legendary Mark Wahlberg.

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Speaker 6: The funny shit is I'm looking at like the Marky

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Speaker 2: Mark Wahlberg, the legend.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, that is actually fucking.

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Speaker 3: Hilarious naming your group the Funky Bunch after you were

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Speaker 4: Kid Rock Ki, I was gonna say, if we're just

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Speaker 2: Or not feelings, do you have a case.

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Speaker 5: Kid Rock might need to be up there. He might

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Speaker 5: need to be on the mount rushmore of white rappers.

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Speaker 3: I completely forgot about House of Pain. That was a

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Speaker 3: great pick, but again, these are all groups like even

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta just pick you know who, you know

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Speaker 2: the head. But it was just like us as whites

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Speaker 2: got the new mountain. Yeah, you get a new mountain.

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Speaker 2: More mountains.

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Speaker 3: Outside of that, I don't know. It was white rappers

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Speaker 6: They're not still weird. There ain't gonna be white rappers

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, who's action?

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Speaker 2: Jack Carlow had the biggest.

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Speaker 4: Year of any rolling Jack Yeah, Jack Russ.

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Speaker 2: McLamore had a great time. Whether he liked it or not.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but they had like a little two year, three

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Speaker 3: Action Bronson yellow Wolf at a time, MGK, I mean

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so oh oh god.

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Speaker 4: So I happened to click on because he came on

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Speaker 4: Okay, he came out with a beer. I had some

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Speaker 4: tight le vis. I said, okay, I get to it.

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Speaker 2: Let's get right to it. We're gonna get right in

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Speaker 2: to the set. Oh, I forgot our guy Vini Pass

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Speaker 2: that you said I don't listen.

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Speaker 5: To You don't listen to Vinnie Pass. You don't know

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Speaker 5: nothing about Vinnie Pass.

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Speaker 2: But it's logic up there. No after his new sound.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be up there. Wait, well, wat is logic

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Speaker 2: not on the Mount Rushmore? Who would you.

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Speaker 4: Take out to put logic there?

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Speaker 2: As far as rape just rapping, you're.

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Speaker 6: Gonna take You're gonna take Paul Wall out to put

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Speaker 6: come find.

442
00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,560
Speaker 3: I might actually shoot you. We just don't mind the

443
00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,960
Speaker 3: internet going. That's the people shamp right there. I'm saying,

444
00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,160
Speaker 3: we just don't about rap though what that mean? Logic

445
00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:39,960
Speaker 3: could rap better than.

446
00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:41,520
Speaker 5: A lot of these dudes on his Mount Rushmore, is

447
00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:42,040
Speaker 5: what I'm saying.

448
00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:48,000
Speaker 2: I would take any Paul Oh but logic even if

449
00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:49,360
Speaker 2: you walked in there and just started the freestyle.

450
00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,360
Speaker 5: It's hard to take poor Wall off the Mount Rushmore, though.

451
00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:58,160
Speaker 2: It's hard. He again in that transition, I guess where's

452
00:18:58,359 --> 00:18:59,080
Speaker 2: what Sparks at?

453
00:18:59,119 --> 00:18:59,280
Speaker 1: Though?

454
00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:00,880
Speaker 4: College Park?

455
00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:06,240
Speaker 2: We gotta give Bubba Sparks, where's my where's my white ID?

456
00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,600
Speaker 2: My actual idea? I got to turn that over.

457
00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,960
Speaker 3: We gotta give Family's finest Bubba Sparks Deliverance.

458
00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,760
Speaker 2: One of the greatest records ever, one of the greatest videos.

459
00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,439
Speaker 2: Who We got to give Bubba Sparks some love man,

460
00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,000
Speaker 2: make me every character from the Bubba Sparks Ugly video.

461
00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:27,760
Speaker 5: Come on, man, Bubba Sparks legend. Yeah, Sparks rap legend. Man,

462
00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,440
Speaker 5: come on, we can't do that. We gotta give Bubba

463
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Speaker 5: Sparks his flowers.

464
00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,280
Speaker 2: Man, we can't do that. Yeah, with you there, I'm

465
00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:32,800
Speaker 2: definitely with you.

466
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Speaker 1: There.

467
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Speaker 2: Are we allowed to play a snippet of the new

468
00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:36,480
Speaker 2: Logic is on?

469
00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,680
Speaker 6: We can't play ship, We can't play none. We already

470
00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:40,800
Speaker 6: got we got another copyright strikes into our email.

471
00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:42,960
Speaker 3: Well, you guys know, I think Logic is the front

472
00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:44,720
Speaker 3: of the show. I actually think he's a good guy.

473
00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,320
Speaker 3: I've enjoyed speaking to him. I enjoyed speaking to him afterwards.

474
00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,280
Speaker 3: I've said to his face, and his music is not

475
00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,200
Speaker 3: for me. Doesn't mean you can't like someone as a

476
00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,880
Speaker 3: person if you're not just there for all their music.

477
00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:59,119
Speaker 3: This is my first time actually being upset at Logic. Well,

478
00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,200
Speaker 3: I wish we could play this snippet he's in his

479
00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,600
Speaker 3: Playboy CARDI Travis Scott era now and I just don't.

480
00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,800
Speaker 3: I just don't think the streets need that. M I mean,

481
00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:08,320
Speaker 3: if it makes you happy, do it makes you happy?

482
00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,480
Speaker 3: But I'm not here to stop you with your musical dreams.

483
00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,119
Speaker 3: You're independent, do whatever the fuck you want to do.

484
00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:16,720
Speaker 3: You're rich, you're apparent. The world is your oyster. I

485
00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,480
Speaker 3: didn't hear it, but oh my god, I think he's trolling.

486
00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:20,960
Speaker 2: He has to be. This has to be a joke,

487
00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:23,280
Speaker 2: all right. So we just came back in.

488
00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,320
Speaker 3: Because I wanted Mall to hear the snippet so he

489
00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,480
Speaker 3: could react to it properly. It slaps, but I just

490
00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:29,320
Speaker 3: don't need it from Logic.

491
00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,600
Speaker 5: Well, first things first, the last time I remember Logic

492
00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,160
Speaker 5: saying he was retiring from Megan music.

493
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but every rapper says that he's put out three

494
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:41,560
Speaker 2: albums since the Yeah, okay, so let's start there. Yeah,

495
00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:42,040
Speaker 2: I don't.

496
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,600
Speaker 5: Again, we're just going off a snippet that twelve seconds.

497
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,240
Speaker 2: You think the began has changed some boom back. No,

498
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:51,840
Speaker 2: I want to hear is gonna come in. I want

499
00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,119
Speaker 2: to hear what he's rapping like. I assume it's going

500
00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:56,560
Speaker 2: to be in that flow for the remainder of the song.

501
00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:58,240
Speaker 2: But I don't know. Maybe he's getting.

502
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Speaker 5: Barlow because you could get balls off on that, or could.

503
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:05,359
Speaker 3: This be like some logic conspiracy way to show how

504
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 3: easy making that type.

505
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,440
Speaker 2: Of music is now. I could see Logic doing that

506
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:09,880
Speaker 2: as well. That's why he's one head.

507
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,399
Speaker 5: When he's one of those guys, he'll definitely show you

508
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:12,960
Speaker 5: how it is.

509
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 2: To me, he tricked the Wu Tang to get back together.

510
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 2: Anything is possible. Yeah, I don't know, man.

511
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:19,840
Speaker 5: I just think Logic is just one of those guys

512
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,639
Speaker 5: that's just so musically inclined and talented that you know

513
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,320
Speaker 5: he's gonna try things, and you know sometimes it's gonna

514
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 5: land sometimes or not. But I do want to hear

515
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,159
Speaker 5: that record, like I want to hear if he's actually

516
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,120
Speaker 5: rapping going on that record.

517
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 3: I see what you're saying, because I also it's going

518
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,639
Speaker 3: to piss all of our listeners off. I agree Logic

519
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,639
Speaker 3: is extremely talented, even if it's not for you. You

520
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,879
Speaker 3: cannot say that that person right there is not talented.

521
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:40,360
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

522
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:45,159
Speaker 3: Why are talented people regurgitating other bullshit? You're talented, you

523
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 3: don't need to do that. If you weren't talented, I

524
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 3: get it ride a wave. Why would a talented person

525
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:51,159
Speaker 3: need to do that?

526
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:52,439
Speaker 2: Talented?

527
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,159
Speaker 3: That would be my issue with Logic and this, So

528
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,400
Speaker 3: that's my issue, and I'm not comparing Kanye in logic

529
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 3: at all. But when Kanye's with Yea was just riding

530
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:00,639
Speaker 3: the wave of the sound, I was going down, like,

531
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,120
Speaker 3: you're a genius, why are you doing this? That's that's

532
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 3: where I think it's kind of weird. But I don't

533
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 3: people show how easy it is to make.

534
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 5: That see logic doing that though, to make a point

535
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 5: in just showing how easy it is to mimic that

536
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 5: sound and try to recreate.

537
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 2: It in his own way. But listen, I want to hear.

538
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 2: I want to hear a song. I can't. I can't

539
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:20,479
Speaker 2: off a snippet.

540
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,640
Speaker 5: I can't kill logic and say he's he tryn't sound

541
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 5: like Playboy, Card and all these guys.

542
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 2: I gotta hit a record and we can get off this.

543
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 3: But they did a trap mount Rushmore as well, which

544
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 3: at Gucci, t I, g Z and Yogati, and initially

545
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,679
Speaker 3: everyone's was upset about Future not being there.

546
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,680
Speaker 6: I don't think about future, and I think trap. But again,

547
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 6: I'm not for the soft so I'm not the right

548
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 6: person to talk about.

549
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 3: I mean, he's in that category, but I feel you

550
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 3: he's like right after I think the trap ship. But

551
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 3: he definitely has trap elements for sure. If you called

552
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 3: him a trap riber, I wouldn't be like no, but

553
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,399
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, as far as the forefather Ship, I.

554
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 2: Mean yeah, it's kind of I think they kind of

555
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,959
Speaker 2: nailed it. I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad

556
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 2: at Gucci, t I G. And Yogatti.

557
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 5: If you, if you are gonna take somebody off and

558
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 5: add a future, then it would probably Yogatti. Yeah, but

559
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,640
Speaker 5: I'm not mad at I'm not mad at this quort though.

560
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 5: As far as track Rushmore, no, I'm not mad at that.

561
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, that one didn't have as much like outrage because

562
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 3: everyone from the South was like, yeah, this is perfect,

563
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 3: We're amazing.

564
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is perfectly nailed. We've never made a mistake

565
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 2: or a bad music opinion in our.

566
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 5: Entire honorable mention for trapped Rushmore, Uh titty boy to change, Yeah,

567
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 5: have him on there.

568
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 1: I'm with you.

569
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm definitely with you, And I mean new generation

570
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 3: Doug has to be there too, absolutely, But I again,

571
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 3: not my Rushmore. He would be for the next generation

572
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 3: for sure.

573
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 6: Doug said, I'm gonna pull up, eat on that pussy

574
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 6: and dip you love you felt that that niggas a genius.

575
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,439
Speaker 5: All right, man, all right, baby, d what you're going through? Right,

576
00:23:58,720 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 5: what you're going through?

577
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 2: We hit were you? We here to listen to you?

578
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 1: A right?

579
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 2: He had a little food set and left, Yo, like

580
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 2: what's up? Baby?

581
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 7: Like?

582
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 2: Yo, he's a genius?

583
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 1: What man?

584
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 2: Because he got that off and just left and he

585
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 2: did it in a minor this it's a lot there.

586
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 2: I sort of got my brain. I don't know, and

587
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 2: that's how it happened. My brain was not even and

588
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,360
Speaker 2: that's way more layer than I thought exactly, and that's

589
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 2: how hell he did not know that a minor right.

590
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 5: Right, I got you, I was I got you. I

591
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 5: know what you were saying, but I got you. No,

592
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 5: she don't want to go out. She don't want to

593
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 5: stand up for more than twelve minutes.

594
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 4: And I'm about to freeze my eggs.

595
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 2: He abouts to do?

596
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 4: What freeze my eggs?

597
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 2: Maybe?

598
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 6: Maybe what I have to I'm a woman that wants

599
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 6: to have kids of this thirty work two weeks until

600
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 6: thirty one years old. But that's still your eggs start

601
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 6: dying at twenty five. Yeah, that's something.

602
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 2: Don't your eggs daddy?

603
00:24:58,359 --> 00:24:58,719
Speaker 4: Period?

604
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 6: Yes, you lose them and I'm not getting anymore. So yeah,

605
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 6: I have to start thinking about that freezing my eggs.

606
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 6: Anything can happen to they tell me how, like how

607
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 6: many you have? Every No, you have to I would

608
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,360
Speaker 6: have to go get that checked out. And I'm really

609
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,479
Speaker 6: not really for them to go up in there yet,

610
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 6: but yeah, we can probably get them frozen.

611
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 2: Do you think you know the person you're gonna have

612
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 2: kids with like you met?

613
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 4: I used to think so, but no, not anymore.

614
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 2: Okay, what about you you freeze your sparm?

615
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 4: Well, when do y'all fertilize my egg?

616
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 2: Sorry?

617
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 6: So that did the last longer when you fertil So

618
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 6: when I go to freeze my eggs, fertilized eggs tend

619
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 6: to last longer and do better.

620
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,439
Speaker 4: So like with whe of y'all fertilized, like half of.

621
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 2: Them when you like put it back in. Would we

622
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 2: be the father?

623
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 5: Yes, you think that I would give you Maybe then

624
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 5: you think that I would let you take my sperm

625
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 5: and fertilize your egg.

626
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 6: First of all, you got like five more years left

627
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 6: before like you start giving your kids at risk for

628
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 6: autism and stuff like you have to freeze that sack, brother, Yeah,

629
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 6: like you, the older men are the less healthy, the

630
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 6: kids are likely to be I'm saying, so, come.

631
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 2: On, we can have a kid, little pot baby. That

632
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 2: just sounds like a terrible idea. It's a black mirror episode.

633
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 4: That is a terrible That is definitely a black mirror episode.

634
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 2: Oh my god, imagine that.

635
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 5: You imagine the headlines if I donate my sperm the

636
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 5: baby's eggs, Like, can you imagine that?

637
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 3: First of Reddit would go crazy? First of them would

638
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 3: be a little different Reddit just for that.

639
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 5: Your peach bleak, first of them all kind of like

640
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 5: I didn't we didn't even have sex that you just

641
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 5: gave us sperm.

642
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 2: That's like the president, Like, what type of shit is that?

643
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 3: Then you have a kid Like yeah, I know some

644
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 3: people that have like packs with their friends, like platonic friends.

645
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had one before that. She wouldn't have a baby, dag,

646
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 2: you broke the pack? Wait, what was the age for

647
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 2: the pack? Like if we're both.

648
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 5: If because she's I think like four years younger than me.

649
00:26:58,320 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 5: So at the time she was like when she was

650
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 5: third five, which or thirty, and I was I would

651
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 5: have been turning thirty four thirty five. She's like, would

652
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 5: you have a kid? I was like yeah, And then

653
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 5: like two years later she had a kid.

654
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 2: Broke the pack.

655
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 4: She thought about that shit a little long.

656
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 2: How long are you gonna give her too? Until she

657
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 2: turned thirty five? That's what she was saying. Okay, gotcha.

658
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 5: She had introduced the idea of it, and I was like, yo,

659
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 5: we like super cool?

660
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 2: Like I was like, yeah, why not?

661
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 7: What?

662
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 2: Oh?

663
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 3: This is where I wish we had another mic. Maybe

664
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 3: Page or Josh could just yell what traits do you

665
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 3: think the baby would take from each of these? Do

666
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 3: you think this would be a well meshed baby as

667
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 3: far as how they act?

668
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 5: If I was to donates from the babies A yeah,

669
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 5: oh no, that baby would be lit h.

670
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 2: I think you guys would balance each other out well

671
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 2: for the child. Yeah, yeah h that baby. No, baby's rare.

672
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm gonna be a like absent father.

673
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 6: She's no for sure, no, no absent mother. No, no, no, no, no,

674
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 6: we both can't be absent baby d somebody has to be.

675
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 6: You're not a big family, That's what I thought about.

676
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 6: You do too, Like Rory, you got a big family.

677
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 2: You do too. You are one of your sisters every day.

678
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 2: I don't know what you got.

679
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 6: Four hundred of the motherfuckers though true, and your nephew

680
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 6: is so well raised, he's amazing.

681
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 2: Like, but what that gotta do with you taking this kid?

682
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 5: Nah?

683
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: I ain't doing that.

684
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 4: What nah, I'm not the primary parent. You the primary parent?

685
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 2: How you the one that's carrying baby?

686
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, for nine months and then for eighteen years.

687
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 2: It's not you, hell Na. That that's how it works. Yes,

688
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 2: that's crazy American. You're going to carry the seed for

689
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 2: not much and then be like, Yo, I'm cool.

690
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 3: But what's so funny about the scenario is you guys

691
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 3: are planning to abandon your child. Not that not that

692
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 3: I understand that people people abandon their kids, but when

693
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 3: shit happens, you'll be like, all right, he didn't want

694
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 3: that baby. The shit happened, so hee, you guys are

695
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 3: going to science. But look how a child to ben abandoned.

696
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 3: But look how it starts.

697
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 2: I am donating. I am the donort. That's a personal

698
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 2: donation though yeah, it's.

699
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's I am depositing into baby these account yes

700
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 5: of her egg.

701
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 2: Right she then carries, Yeah, she carries the egg.

702
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 5: She can't just leave the egg once it has You

703
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 5: make more money than.

704
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 4: Me, Like in a child, you gotta do it or

705
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 4: I would lose because you make more.

706
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 2: Money than me. No, we know, we don't got to

707
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 2: go there.

708
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 3: Don't imagine a woman went to a sperm bank with

709
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 3: the intention to abandon her child.

710
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 2: Want to have it, but I want to I just

711
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 2: want to have it, but I don't want it. They're

712
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 2: gonna be like, no, it's just like, are you a

713
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 2: surrogate for a surrogate for a surrogate.

714
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 6: There's a difference between being you don't abandon but not

715
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 6: the primary parent, like when it comes to like when

716
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 6: the kid wants something that it needs to go to

717
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 6: daddy first.

718
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 5: All right, So here, here's here's what we do. If

719
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 5: it's a girl, you have to keep it because I can't.

720
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 5: I can't raise a woman.

721
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 4: I would not want my daughter raised by you, so agree.

722
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 2: Waita, what that means? You just said you can't raise

723
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 2: the girl because.

724
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 5: I would have to kill one of these little wyans

725
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 5: out here.

726
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 2: I don't want to do that.

727
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 5: That's the only reason. So you want to raise one

728
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 5: a Waiian? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's definitely raising a y

729
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 5: n for sure. But if it's a boy, I'll take it.

730
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 2: I'll raise them.

731
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 3: What's funny, is I think he'd get all his violence

732
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 3: from Demeras, I'd be more scared of his mother's side

733
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 3: in a situation like to make an irrational impulse decision

734
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 3: to murder me, I'm definitely going with Demeris' acide.

735
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you have to raise it.

736
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 5: If it's a girl, cool, I think that should be

737
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 5: a thing anyway.

738
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 4: No, girls need their fathers.

739
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 5: Girls absolutely, But I'm saying, like, if y'all, if the

740
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 5: parents break up, split, like you know, we get separate households,

741
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 5: we don't live together. I think that if it's a daughter,

742
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 5: she should still have a bond and a life with

743
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,479
Speaker 5: the father, but primary residence who raises her I think

744
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 5: should be the mother in if it's a boy, I

745
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 5: think he should live under his dad's roof.

746
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 6: Girls the age twelve through a seventeen need to be

747
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 6: with their fathers twelve th every day to be with that.

748
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 4: Yes, they need to be with their fathers.

749
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 2: Damn like parenting.

750
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, what do you mean why? That's when they need

751
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 6: you all the most. That's when they need you all

752
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 6: the most. That's when they need to be reassured the most.

753
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 6: That male attention they need the most.

754
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 5: No, but you still I'm not saying like the father

755
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 5: is completely I'm saying, as far as live in the house.

756
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 6: You ever seen a thirteen year old girl argue with

757
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 6: her mother? That should have shaked the shake the neighborhood.

758
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 2: You've got to have a twin sister. You think I've

759
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 2: never seen the thirteen exactly?

760
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: Are you?

761
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 3: Yeah?

762
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 2: You had to grow up fast.

763
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 6: Like if your daddy would have been off that stuff,

764
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 6: your sister would have left and went with him immediately.

765
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 4: I'm telling you she would have asked her she's been gone.

766
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it did.

767
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 5: It is a point where mothers and daughter's clash.

768
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, the teenage years is tough.

769
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 5: As soon as your first period. Soon does that first

770
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 5: period happen?

771
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 2: That's it.

772
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 5: It's over now. It's like two women fighting for like.

773
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 2: I've seen it.

774
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 5: Just tell me what trees, who.

775
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 4: Got who got the smarter mouth, who got a bigger attitude?

776
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 5: Who had a last that last last that left the

777
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 5: last word? Yo, you don't want to know how many

778
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 5: times my house shook up and down for the last one.

779
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 5: I'm like, why don't y'all both just shut the fuck up,

780
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 5: Just both of y'all shut the fucking I'm fourteen, Like

781
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 5: both of y'all shut the fuck up, like just let it,

782
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 5: let it go, Like, yeah, it's crazy, that's that's a

783
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 5: real thing.

784
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 6: I don't know what it is about teenage. It's like

785
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 6: we just become monsters. My mother's thing used to be

786
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 6: the maor like okay, okay, she's like the Maris. I

787
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 6: would have got say okay, one more.

788
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 2: Mother, Yeah, y'all want that last last?

789
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 5: You know how many battles I've seen over the last

790
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 5: I'm like, yo, we talking about a box of cereal.

791
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 5: This started at a box of cereal and now all

792
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 5: the way here, like what.

793
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 2: Are we talking about?

794
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 3: Then raising a teenage boy, you have to think factoring

795
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 3: all the towels that you can crack in half.

796
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 2: By the end of the week, it's gonna be fucking everywhere.

797
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 3: That was like if you want a quiet house with

798
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 3: dirty towels or a loud one with you know, a

799
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 3: tampon or two.

800
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 5: Now, me and my mom used to always like our

801
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 5: thing was always like just me, like coming in the

802
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 5: house late after a while, like that was moment like

803
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 5: I was just started hanging out in the streets.

804
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 4: Like you've been a whore.

805
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 5: No, But it wasn't even that it was like literally

806
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 5: just being outside like with the with the homies, Like

807
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 5: we going to Brooklyn, were going to Queens and we're

808
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 5: taking the train.

809
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 2: It's two in the morning. My Mom's like, Yo, what

810
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 2: are you how you think it was coming here? Three?

811
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 2: Four in the morning? Like what's it's like?

812
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 5: Yo, we would do I'm not saying nothing wrong with it,

813
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 5: but looking back, I understand why my mother was so, Yeah,

814
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 5: it's crazy. You know what it is to be on

815
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 5: the train at three in the morning as a sixteen

816
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 5: year old black kid.

817
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, and she can't sleep, Like as a parent, you

818
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 4: can't sleep.

819
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was my thing.

820
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 5: That was my and then the girls, you know, come

821
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 5: bring the girls to the house.

822
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 2: That was the thing. But my mom think it was

823
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 2: better than bringing the boys to the house. So you

824
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. That was just like it was

825
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 2: just that part.

826
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 3: So we decided what we're gonna do depending on if

827
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 3: it's a boy or girl. With that agreement, Let's say

828
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 3: we get to fifteen and a transition wants to happen.

829
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 2: Does the household can't help you? So can't you? You

830
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 2: can't help like transitions from boy the girl. I knew

831
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 2: we were gonna take that out anyways? Did you keep

832
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 2: it on me? Okay? Do you guys back of it?

833
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 2: I got it's why?

834
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 4: Because why?

835
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 2: Because he was sitting right there? Okay?

836
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 3: Do we have names that we can agree on? We

837
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 3: already know where the boy or the girl is staying.

838
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:25,919
Speaker 3: Do your boy names?

839
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 2: Yeah? I got boy names. What's your boy names? I

840
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 2: think I want a junior.

841
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 4: Not naming my kids Jamaal, but it's spelled Jamil.

842
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 2: I'm not doing why. He's Muslim? You take.

843
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 5: Taking shahta? Yeah, raise a Muslim baby.

844
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see. I can see you turning Muslim.

845
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 2: She needs one month with Kevin Gates. Get it right, Kevin.

846
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 2: Kevin got Britney Drape.

847
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 6: I might be the only person. I might be the

848
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 6: only person ever stressed Kevin Gates. Kevin wouldn't trust me

849
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 6: out I was stressed.

850
00:34:58,440 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: Kevin.

851
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 2: He seems like your type. I don't mean the in

852
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: a bad way. I'm serious. He's a challenge.

853
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 4: I love a challenge.

854
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 6: Yeah.

855
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 2: I would argue all fucking death.

856
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, Kevin Gates and Damaris, Yeah, that's an argument waiting.

857
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 2: Do you have girl names?

858
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 6: Uh?

859
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 4: She gave us girl names before Alexandra or Anastasia.

860
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 2: Maris.

861
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 3: No, you don't know, you do not like I could

862
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 3: still be a junior jamis junior and it's like what

863
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 3: girl like the unisex name.

864
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 2: We saw the smith do it. Look how that turned

865
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 2: out creative kids to creative kids.

866
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 6: Absolutely, we're gonna have a kid that talks too much.

867
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 6: Two podcasters can't have a kid kid won't shut the

868
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 6: fuck up.

869
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 5: Funny because it's funny, because I mean, Rory knows, I

870
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 5: only talk here. Yeah, I only talk here. I don't

871
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 5: talk to nobody outside of the ship. I talked to

872
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 5: the same four people every day, probably outside of these waves.

873
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,439
Speaker 2: Because I have a word count, like a Twitter word count,

874
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 2: and it usually ends here. Yeah, go home and be quiet.

875
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

876
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 5: I told him my nephew, like, he's one of the

877
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 5: four people to speak to every day, and he's one

878
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 5: five nine.

879
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 2: Nine.

880
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 5: Damn, he's one of the people I told every day,

881
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 5: a nine year old told to nobody funck y'all.

882
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 2: Right by proxy just to godfather just how yeah?

883
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 6: Absolutely nah, because if he go broke, you go broke too.

884
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 6: I need somebody that's not connected. What you mean, I

885
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 6: need somebody. We can't all have the same No, No,

886
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 6: because if we get canceled because Rory can't stop mentioning

887
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 6: the goddamn didn't know, did Godfather?

888
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 2: I never referred to him as that, neither one.

889
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 5: Goddamn the goddamn keep coming up here buying up all

890
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 5: the good Christians. Man, Yo, Jamarics is fucking crazy.

891
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 4: Bleep just bleep, bleep it off. I'm sorry, but yeah,

892
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 4: what was the voicemail?

893
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 2: No, we got him right. I told him to go

894
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 2: to Columbia. Are you know what I mean?

895
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 5: To just get you some bullshit luggage, man, don't worry

896
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 5: about it. Go to Target or go to what's the

897
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:12,720
Speaker 5: other not Target? Uh, Walmart, TJX, TJ Max.

898
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 3: Target probably have some expensive luggage, though, I mean, just

899
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 3: get you some you know, just black, something durable. This

900
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 3: is not an ad, but tell volume the OS one

901
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 3: away luggage is affordable and great.

902
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, I've ran my away luggage into the ground

903
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 2: over the last five years. Away a w A y. Yeah.

904
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 2: Create code just for the fun of it. Yeah, just

905
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 2: for the fun of it. Cretit code. These are the

906
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 2: ads that work when.

907
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 4: You say we'll leave an Amazon link in our desription.

908
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, just go do that. Go to Columbia.

909
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 5: Dr take you about, you know, a thousand dollars spending

910
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 5: cash if you have, if not, five hundred dollars a due.

911
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 2: Just have fun for like four days. Just journal out there. Yeah,

912
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 2: just get your mind right. You know what I'm saying.

913
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 5: Make sure you know, like I said, keep yourself protected

914
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 5: and have fun. Man, enjoy yourself. All right, all right,

915
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 5: well it's been good talking to you guys. Now it's

916
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 5: time for me to shut up for the rest of

917
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:02,919
Speaker 5: the evening.

918
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 3: P Is there like an AI program that we can

919
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 3: see what the baby would look like between Mall and Demaric,

920
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 3: because I mean, to me, that's that's peg.

921
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 2: I was thinking that.

922
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was thinking, yes, that what you were thinking,

923
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 5: Peach over there in your little layer.

924
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 2: They chant be and Mall looking like, see, that's racist,

925
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 2: that is racist.

926
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 6: When my face was chunkier and they said me, I

927
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 6: look like a female Mall, We don't look like I'm

928
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 6: like mau literally has a twin.

929
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 4: I look nothing like her.

930
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 5: Yeah we don't, we don't look like. That's just them

931
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 5: being racist, But it's all good.

932
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 3: What is going on with my expert opinion? No barbershop,

933
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 3: I have been just because you know, love the show.

934
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 3: Fuck with math. I've just been paying attention to what's

935
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 3: going on. We're not here to judge. We understand how

936
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 3: fucking crazy it is to try to keep a podcast

937
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 3: business going.

938
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 2: But where does this leave the show?

939
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: In the hands of the owner? Okay, in the hands

940
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: of the owner. I don't have a lot of information

941
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: as far as like where it's going to go. I

942
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: found out a lot of things in real time with

943
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: everybody else. I knew the lights were off, Okay, I

944
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: went to we went to do an episode. I'm the

945
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: one who called him and told him the lights were off,

946
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: So you know that's jacked up. I told him to

947
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: fight for the shop, not because not because the aesthetic

948
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 1: is so needed, but because I felt the way it

949
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: was done was dirty. I don't think you should let

950
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: people get away with the bullshit, so you should. You

951
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: should fight for the shop. But you know that the

952
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: the spot isn't the spot, isn't the show, the voices

953
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: of the show, the energy is the show. You guys,

954
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: you two could pick up go someplace else and be

955
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: still be Rory and mall you think what I'm saying,

956
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: Like when you left when it was Joe Budden and

957
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: then next thing is Rorian Mal, You're still Rory and mall.

958
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 1: My expert opinion will be my expert opinion no matter

959
00:39:55,400 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: where it is. It's not. I don't don't like the

960
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: I I don't like the fact that all the business

961
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: is on Front Street. But that wasn't my call either.

962
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens, like well, we'll see what

963
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: shakes out. People are hitting me up for answers that

964
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: I I'm kind of watching with everybody else, like, yeah, man,

965
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: can you see what's going on? Yeah, I'm looking right now.

966
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: It's crazy. You some pop, It's nuts. You see this ship?

967
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:21,919
Speaker 2: Wow?

968
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: Fuck did you see?

969
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 2: So you and Math haven't had any personal conversations at

970
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 2: all about it.

971
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: We spoke. We spoke months ago, and we knew that

972
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: the landlord was like being a little moving from shaky.

973
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: You see him walking by looking in, like when we're

974
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 1: filming an episode, but dozens of people walk by and

975
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: look in you see a barbershop with a bunch of

976
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: bright lights, you know what I mean, and microphones. Of

977
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: course you stop and what the fuck is that? So

978
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: I didn't pay attention to everybody, didn't even know what

979
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: he looked like. And I stayed out of the business

980
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: part of it. Like if I'm not involved, if I'm

981
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: not directly involved, if I can't help in any way,

982
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: shape or form, I'm not injecting my injecting myself into

983
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: anybody's situation, especially when it comes to finances. Those are

984
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: your pockets. You spend your money, You do what you do.

985
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 1: I don't want to know how much you're making. I

986
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: don't want to know. I'm from Queen's All I care

987
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 1: about is my bread. I don't need. I don't want

988
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: any of yours. I need all of mine. That's that's

989
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: the philosophy. And I'm I'm not here to pocket check

990
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 1: or pocket watch you and under any circumstances. So as

991
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: far as as far as like the the being he

992
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: did tell us when you know, Homeboy was trying to

993
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,439
Speaker 1: after the light thing. Homeboy's trying to kick us out,

994
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Well he needs barbers in his hand,

995
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: is no. But he told us all the same stuff

996
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: that he said online. So yeah, we had that conversation.

997
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 5: But wait, the landlords that he needs barbers in the show.

998
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: I'm not saying anything that's not already. Yeah, of course

999
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: there's something in the contract that says you have to

1000
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: have barbers in the chair, or it's like a sub

1001
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 1: section where it says you can use it for other purposes, right,

1002
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: but the main thing is the barbers. And I can

1003
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 1: understand that if I'm a landlord and on the spot

1004
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: and I walk by, you know, three or four days

1005
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: out of the week, and the shutters are down and

1006
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: the lights are off, and this is my place, I

1007
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: want to see it active. In moving, you don't want

1008
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 1: your building looking like it's abandoned.

1009
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 3: Basically, I mean, if the agreement, though is per month,

1010
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 3: I owe you this, what I do with it is

1011
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 3: kind of none of your fucking business.

1012
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,280
Speaker 1: Unless there's a suspicion that you're doing something.

1013
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 2: Illegal, okay, which obviously was not happening.

1014
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: That if we're selling drugs or camera bruh, you might

1015
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: have just did something with that.

1016
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 2: We ain't thinking about that. You what do you think

1017
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 2: RFK was there for?

1018
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 5: Wow?

1019
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, the suspicion started.

1020
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 1: It's been so been sold on camera. Absolutely not when

1021
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: I'm around, right when I'm around. So you know, some

1022
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: shit makes sense, some shit just doesn't. I didn't communicate

1023
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: with him because I wasn't asked to, and it's it's

1024
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: not it's not my it's not, for lack of a

1025
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:25,919
Speaker 1: better term, it's not my place.

1026
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 3: Okay, but is that something you at least check in

1027
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 3: with him on of like the status of like what's happening?

1028
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 3: Or you have so many resources. I couldn't see why

1029
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 3: math would hit you to be like, yo, this is

1030
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 3: what's going on. Is there something you can.

1031
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 2: Help out with that never happened? Okay?

1032
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 3: I just feel like somebody like you would be the

1033
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 3: first call with the resources that you have and could

1034
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 3: provide just keep that moving.

1035
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 1: But that never happened. We are where we if that

1036
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: was the case, I don't think we you know, if

1037
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: he had asked and I and I could figure it out, yeah,

1038
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 1: of course I would. When if you ever asked me

1039
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: for something, I say not, go fuck yourself. Never or

1040
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: like didn't even answer the phone for you. Never, Like

1041
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: if I'm not answering the phone, I excuse me. If

1042
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: I'm not answering the phone, I'm busy as fuck. I

1043
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: am like working going albums with like an icon, so

1044
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 1: like my days are jumbled up, and if we're not

1045
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: filming the show, then I have things that I definitely

1046
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: need to put my attention to but juggling wasn't a problem.

1047
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 1: And anybody calling me for anything, it's nothing to be like,

1048
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 1: oh okay, I got you. But like you know, if

1049
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: I don't have it, if I can't help you, I'm

1050
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: not going to pretend I can.

1051
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 3: Well, you think there's a window with this shit, because

1052
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 3: I mean, the podcast world is so unpredictable with fans, algorithms, everything,

1053
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 3: with the steam that y'all had, you know, being one

1054
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 3: of the top shows, is the window small to come back?

1055
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 3: Just the way shit operates and how quick everyone moves.

1056
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 3: How quick do you think you guys need to come back?

1057
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 1: It's not risk free, right, I'll give you that. I'll

1058
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: say that it's not. I can't. I don't have a

1059
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: because they also say absence makes the heart grow fonder,

1060
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 1: you know, And we were obviously providing something that you know,

1061
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: was different from our peers. We don't do what Rory

1062
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 1: and Mal do. We don't do what Joe Budden does,

1063
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: we don't do what Drink Champs does. Not not in

1064
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,240
Speaker 1: the same way, We're all doing something different. Your voices

1065
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: are unique. Again, wherever Rory and Mal go, it's rorya Mal.

1066
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: You can't duplicate the voices right wherever my expert opinion goes.

1067
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 1: It's my expert opinion. You can't duplicate the voices. You

1068
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: can't duplicate the energy. So if people miss that, then

1069
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: there's always going to be a window for something that

1070
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 1: somebody misses, you know what I'm saying. But maybe the

1071
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: main eyes of like maybe I heard that.

1072
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 3: Sorry the to the casual fan come we were having,

1073
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 3: Like there's podcast that I'll watch all the time, and

1074
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 3: if I start clicking other shit and somehow they get

1075
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 3: out of my algorithm, it's not at the top of

1076
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 3: my mind because it doesn't pop up. I just think

1077
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 3: that's how we're kind of trained with everything. Now I've

1078
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 3: fallen off with podcasts not because I dislike them, it's

1079
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 3: because with all the busy shit I'm doing during the day,

1080
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 3: sometimes my algorithms is what's going to be the thing

1081
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 3: that I clicked that day for sure?

1082
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 2: So I mean that that's where I think not a

1083
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 2: window would be small.

1084
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 3: Because you guys have already built a core fan base

1085
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:32,919
Speaker 3: that's always going to be there, like you knowsbers on that. Yeah,

1086
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 3: it's incredible, Like so you guys were the only podcasts that.

1087
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:37,919
Speaker 3: I don't want to say late to the party because

1088
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 3: it sounds like disrespectful, but it's not. When everyone the

1089
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 3: podcast boom hit, everyone tried to do a podcast and

1090
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 3: they all failed. You guys were the only ones that

1091
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 3: came in after like the core and and passed us

1092
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 3: like what you mean? Yes, the only one And to

1093
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 3: me that was like.

1094
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 2: The most unique shit ever.

1095
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 3: When Mad launched, I was like, ah, this is a

1096
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 3: really good conversation, but this is when everyone has a

1097
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 3: fucking podcast because they saw what the rest of us

1098
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 3: were doing. Yeah, we're the only ones post boon that

1099
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 3: actually stayed. So I do think, of course, no matter what,

1100
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 3: there's the window is open. Yeah, but there's magic with

1101
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 3: because we've been through it, so you know, there's no

1102
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 3: judgments on this side. We have a little therapy session.

1103
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 3: What have these ups and downs been like with people

1104
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 3: leaving the show?

1105
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 2: Messiness?

1106
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 3: New podcasts every single day they're talking more about what's

1107
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 3: going on with the cast rather than the actual show.

1108
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 2: What has that been like?

1109
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 3: Because you've been I feel like the only one from

1110
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,919
Speaker 3: the original cast that's I'm not even the original cast.

1111
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I guess you're right.

1112
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I'm second generation at best, I'm not even

1113
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: original cast, and I think that I think there might

1114
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,479
Speaker 1: have been an iteration between the first and the second.

1115
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: I might be third. But the question is, what has

1116
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 1: it been.

1117
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 3: Like for yeah, navigating with you know now that we

1118
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 3: have bag Fuel them leaving the Space Go situation, Like

1119
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 3: there's been a lot of drama with that show, and

1120
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 3: who are we to fucking speak we've had the same

1121
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 3: type of ship, but.

1122
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 2: That I don't know if we had the same type

1123
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 2: of ship.

1124
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 3: Public breakup in public and like they, I mean even

1125
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 3: everybody is part of our breakup was on their show,

1126
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 3: like we've.

1127
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: Had Yeah, how about that?

1128
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 4: How is that?

1129
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 3: Ben?

1130
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 2: Because I mean, I know you still have a great relationship.

1131
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 3: With the guys at bag Fuel, and I don't know

1132
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 3: your situation with Space Ghost, but how have you navigated that?

1133
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 3: Because we'll get to in the divorce. But I still

1134
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 3: I still love Savon. But you know, it's weird.

1135
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: Nothing nothing is weird for me. It is it's going

1136
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 1: to sound very anti climatic. I'm chilling. Okay, I'm really

1137
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: I'm chilling. I don't have any beef with anybody. I

1138
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: don't have no smoke with nobody. Me and math is

1139
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: still in business. Me and s so will cool me

1140
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 1: and can of cool me and space are cool. These

1141
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: these people were mentioned and didn't do anything to me,

1142
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I also live by

1143
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: a very specific philosophy. My father told me a long

1144
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: time ago. If you didn't disrespt, violate somebody's kids, violate

1145
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: somebody's wife, send somebody to jail, to take somebody's life,

1146
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 1: it's not that serious. You can work it out. You

1147
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: can figure out a way to coexist with that other

1148
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 1: person on the other side of that thing. Money loss,

1149
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: you can give it back. Food going, you can give

1150
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,760
Speaker 1: it back like tom going. You can. You can make amends,

1151
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: you can. You can figure that shit out. Only four

1152
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: unforgivables with the ones are just named, and none of

1153
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 1: that happened in any of these situations. Nobody did anything

1154
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: to anybody that's so crazy you can't get back right.

1155
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: And when I when it's not that I can't, I

1156
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: don't have it's hard for me to put energy into

1157
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: be friction like whatever you want to call it. It's hard.

1158
00:49:58,680 --> 00:49:58,919
Speaker 1: I don't.

1159
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 2: It don't have to necess to be a beef.

1160
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 5: But outside of those four things, there's things that people

1161
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 5: can do that would definitely warrant you never fucking with

1162
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 5: them again.

1163
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: Sure, but even that doesn't come with any anger, It

1164
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 1: doesn't come with any balance, It doesn't come.

1165
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 2: With any like.

1166
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 1: I'm not looking for And if it's not that, then

1167
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: what if it's not that, If I'm not looking for

1168
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: you to actively harm you, it's not beef. I don't

1169
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 1: understand what we're arguing about it. Like we we disagree fundamentally,

1170
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 1: we're not seeing eye of eye creatively, we go our

1171
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: separate ways. When I see you out, Yo, what up?

1172
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: How's it going? What's popping? You didn't do nothing to me?

1173
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: Like nothing crazy? And if he did something, I got

1174
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: it back. So what we talk about you are never

1175
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 1: gonna my other philosophy in this business. You'll need me

1176
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,399
Speaker 1: before I need you. It's always been true. Every year

1177
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: of my career. It's been true. Anyone who's ever tried

1178
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: to do me dirty has had to spin the block

1179
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: or look for the better, look for the another me,

1180
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: and end up with the t move version always been hilaried.

1181
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't even It's to the point where

1182
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: I don't even trip anymore. So I and I don't

1183
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 1: have that situation. Now, I don't I don't know this landlord,

1184
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,439
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Whatever he did, I don't

1185
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: know the business. I wasn't there when the paperwork was signing,

1186
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: the contracts was signed for me to jump in now

1187
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: and go hold on, wait a minute, d what about

1188
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: this part? I look stupid doing that right?

1189
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 3: Like?

1190
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: Whatever he whatever he signed the least I didn't know

1191
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 1: it was a I didn't know he was subleasing. I

1192
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: didn't get in bay Math owns the shop. Okay cool,

1193
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: he doesn't own the shop. Okay cool, but he's sub cool.

1194
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: Like what part of finding that out? Yeah? What part

1195
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: of finding that out changes anything?

1196
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 3: That I have to do?

1197
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: My job is to show up, be me, talk about

1198
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 1: the things I know, research the things I don't, and

1199
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 1: keep the keep the show, keep rep the show, rep

1200
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 1: the energy, the rep the spot. We're out a crew.

1201
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: We're not a gang.

1202
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?

1203
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 1: With my family with people, we work together and it's

1204
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: a good look and we all do great work together.

1205
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: And as long as it's that I learned late in

1206
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 1: my career on some source magazine and shit, I learned

1207
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: very late in my career, way later than I should

1208
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 1: have you can't get but so attached to something that

1209
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: does not belong to you in facts, bad idea and rory.

1210
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: You may remember there was a time when I was

1211
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 1: just Mecca from the source. That was my whole. I

1212
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:28,240
Speaker 1: was in people's phones.

1213
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 2: That was literally the synth, like that was the full name.

1214
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: Nobody knew my last name. Fuck that Mecca from the

1215
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: source for everybody, regardless of where I wrote what I

1216
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: That's how hard I was with that brand. When I

1217
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: got offered other spots, I debted it because I felt

1218
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: like you were insulting me. How dare you question my

1219
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 1: loyalty to what I'm doing? Fuck out my face to

1220
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: think at my jump ship. Fuck I look like to you,

1221
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:56,240
Speaker 1: I smell you know what I'm saying. I got angry,

1222
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: like to the point where you think that of me,

1223
00:52:58,239 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: You think I would actually do some shit like that.

1224
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: Oh when the story started making wild moves and I'm

1225
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: in the back going no, what the fuck?

1226
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 3: No?

1227
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 2: Oh my god?

1228
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: And he did it anyway. It's not mine, it's not mine,

1229
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,320
Speaker 1: doesn't belong to me, it's not my say, it's not

1230
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: my call for me to sit here and scream at

1231
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: the top of my lungs. Get all upset and get

1232
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 1: an altar over somebody else's decision. It's crazy.

1233
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's great, I mean, but I mean, at the

1234
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 5: same time, you know that, I think that it is

1235
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 5: some sort of communication that should be had so that

1236
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 5: you not blindsided when you don't have to know the

1237
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,959
Speaker 5: exact details of everything. But if you're saying you found

1238
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 5: out about it when I found about it out about shit.

1239
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 1: That's a problem to me. Finding me finding out ain't

1240
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: the issue. Him telling everybody is is pretty much the

1241
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: the cornerstone of the gripes, right, That's where all the

1242
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 1: smoke you me and him telling the public, right right?

1243
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: Could I stop him from doing that? He never asked me,

1244
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 1: He never told me he was going to do that.

1245
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 1: He didn't tell any of it. I can't speak for

1246
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: any of us. I know he never told me. I

1247
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 1: found out he was online like everybody else. I'm getting

1248
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 1: my phones blowing up, yo, you see your man. I

1249
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: got a lot of who were talking about Rory like

1250
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: I got a song? What do you mean? No bust cool?

1251
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 1: What motherfucker? Who?

1252
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 2: No math is?

1253
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll go look. I went and looked. Oh ship

1254
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 1: well right, m hm, oh run that back but what

1255
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: am I supposed to do about it? You know what

1256
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 1: I mean? Like I get upset, get mad get excited,

1257
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: his his shop, his show.

1258
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I mean, but you've also dedicated a lot

1259
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 5: of you know, sweat equity to the brand.

1260
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,320
Speaker 1: That's worth, that's worth whatever it's worth. And I did that.

1261
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 2: It's a worth to it.

1262
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: Though I did that because of me, you.

1263
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 2: Know, for sure, absolutely, But I'm just saying.

1264
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 5: Like I just I just thought that there would be

1265
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 5: some type of communication between you and math to where

1266
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 5: you would at least not be blindsided by some of

1267
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 5: the things you're hearing him say publicly. I thought that

1268
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 5: you would know, you would would at least know what

1269
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 5: was going on a little bit, maybe not exactly what's

1270
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 5: in the place.

1271
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: I knew a little bit about what was going on,

1272
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 1: Like I said, I knew the landlord was acting a

1273
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 1: little shaky. I knew I was the first one to

1274
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,760
Speaker 1: find out the lights was off, and I kind of figured,

1275
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if he actually yeah, he told us

1276
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: that the landlord was out to a victim, but I

1277
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: didn't realize it would get it wasn't in that order,

1278
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: like the lights off as the last thing. Oh shit,

1279
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 1: the lights are off called him, told him, Hey, I

1280
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: don't know how we're going to do this episode. The

1281
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 1: lights is off. You might call somebody. I don't know

1282
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 1: what's been happening, Like I had new episode today, all right,

1283
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: going to the studio, gotta do X, Y, Z, A,

1284
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: B and C. Let me know what's happening. Next time

1285
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: we need to come to a show, I'll pull up

1286
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 1: into my part. But outside of that, no one's obligated

1287
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: or entitled to anything. One's entitled to any defgregation. Anybody's

1288
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 1: obligated it. It's not frowned upon when it happens.

1289
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, from a leadership standpoint, maybe it would be better

1290
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 3: and behoove the staff to know everything that's going on

1291
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 3: just for the show. But I see what me's saying,

1292
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 3: because like that's a drastically different situation than ours, where

1293
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 3: you're sitting behind expenses. We have a contract that is

1294
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 3: based off everything that is spent here, that we need

1295
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 3: to see this and that that's in a contract. It

1296
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 3: was started from anception together with sweat Equity. It's it's

1297
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 3: drastically but him being second third generation of that, like, yeah,

1298
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 3: if that was the case, like when I've been hired

1299
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:37,280
Speaker 3: to do stuff.

1300
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 2: I know this is what it is and ain't my

1301
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 2: fucking business.

1302
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 3: Like, as long as you have my check every month,

1303
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 3: there's not really much I can say here yeah, nor

1304
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 3: do I want to, because it's not my show. I'm

1305
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 3: paid to show up, to do this at the best

1306
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 3: of my ability and grow the show the best way

1307
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 3: I can.

1308
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 1: I got I would get yeah, but you.

1309
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but how you but you?

1310
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,240
Speaker 3: But mecs But I mean that back to your source

1311
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,359
Speaker 3: comparison to like I remember when Seife left Hot ninety

1312
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 3: seven when he had that revelation, like, oh, I put

1313
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 3: my life into this logo and then realized I was

1314
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 3: expendable and they did not give a single fuck about me,

1315
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 3: even though I was the most senior person in there

1316
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 3: as far as years, and I was fighting for a

1317
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 3: logo that did not give a fuck up, Like why

1318
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 3: would I even do that?

1319
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 2: I'm not sure.

1320
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: Just showed up, it's not sure in my morning.

1321
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 3: Show and went the fuck home and not even fought

1322
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 3: with Breakfast Club and like, no, you don't care about

1323
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 3: this logo.

1324
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: You get caught up. You get caught up. You you

1325
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: want First of all, when I was at the Source,

1326
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: bro that was the Bible. Yeah, grew up on that sagazine. Yeah,

1327
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: fucking that's like the perfect word. Who wants to let

1328
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: that go? Who wants to see that ruin? Who wants

1329
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 1: to see that tarnish? When it's literally your dreams? I

1330
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: was writing about hip hop as a hip hop head

1331
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: in the hip Hop Bible. Every day you had to

1332
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: tell me to go home, you know what I mean?

1333
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 1: Like I was in the office all the fucking time.

1334
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: I had a toothbrush in that bitch like I was there. Type.

1335
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 1: I wear glasses now because I stand in the screen

1336
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 1: for way longer than I should have, way longer. It

1337
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 1: was healthy, ninny of glasses, Like I did that because

1338
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 1: of my love for this place. But it doesn't belong

1339
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 1: to you. Every career I've ever worked with, every artist

1340
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: I've ever helped foster and get a shit back on

1341
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: track or put this album together, whatever, whatever, When it

1342
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: comes time for them to make the decisions that they

1343
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: want to make, you have to remember it's not yours.

1344
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 2: Right, you can see the.

1345
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 1: Red flags can look like a fucking parade in China.

1346
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: You can see it a mile away. You can scream

1347
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 1: at the top of your fucking lungs bro what they

1348
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: want to do, they're going to do, and that goes

1349
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 1: for anything that you are not directly in control of,

1350
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: and you are disrespecting them by assuming that you have

1351
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 1: more say or you have any say over their shit.

1352
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, but also from and I'm not making this a

1353
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 3: Math specific thing because I know nothing about his leadership.

1354
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 3: I'm outside looking in with that though, Like, if you

1355
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 3: have people that are leaving, you are also responsible for

1356
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 3: the chemistry of that show as a co host, so

1357
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 3: you do have to deal with the decisions that the

1358
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 3: leader does make. Like when Esson Hedegen left, I'm sure

1359
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 3: the interviews in the beginning were a little different because

1360
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 3: part of that show was gone. A chemistry was gone. Sure,

1361
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 3: like how you guys played off each other. Who's asking

1362
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 3: specific questions, Like you have a very specific set of questions.

1363
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 3: Math has a very specific like that's why the show

1364
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 3: was so great, so many different perspectives.

1365
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 2: As a leader, I do feel like you should keep

1366
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 2: your team.

1367
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 3: At least involved in some of what's going on with

1368
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 3: that info because they also are going to have to

1369
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 3: move this show with the decisions that you make and

1370
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 3: just showing up and me like, oh, they're not here

1371
00:59:58,280 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 3: and now I got to figure this out. Wish I

1372
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 3: would have known.

1373
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 1: I'm past that point in my in my career. Not

1374
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 1: not trying to sound like mister cool, but if I'm

1375
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 1: being honest, I've been in places with high turnover. You

1376
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I know what that's like. It's

1377
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: not pleasant. I thought that team put numbers on the

1378
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: board in a real way. Me as so heinikn Math,

1379
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 1: Bigger Space Ghost. That was the unit that Eminem shouted

1380
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 1: out first rapper to ever like big us up just

1381
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 1: out of nowhere. Hey, those guys know what the fucking

1382
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 1: that was amazing. Shout out to m for that that was.

1383
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 1: I never forgot that that was the unit that put

1384
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 1: numbers on the board. Now in the units changed, is

1385
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 1: beefing about it gonna make it? Gonna change that I

1386
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 1: tried to have. I tried. I tried to and this

1387
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 1: story is out. I tried to set up up the

1388
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 1: dinner for all of us to sit down and air

1389
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 1: out our agreements. Its big I had the spot in

1390
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 1: little Italy. We were all supposed to meet ups. Heineken

1391
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 1: Space goes me Bigger Math. We're all supposed to sit

1392
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 1: down and have the conversation it did not happen. Why

1393
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 1: math said he wasn't going, and again this is public information.

1394
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 2: Yeah he said it.

1395
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 1: He said he wasn't going.

1396
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 2: His decision to make is his. But I get it.

1397
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 2: But leadership as well. Again outside looking at my pops.

1398
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 1: My pops told me one time, when when the results

1399
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 1: don't change, the why is irrelevant.

1400
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:36,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fun fair.

1401
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 1: I stopped asking.

1402
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't even want to know at

1403
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 2: this point. Yeah, like, fuck it, let's move on.

1404
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 1: If I found out, would it changed something?

1405
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 3: Right?

1406
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 1: Why won't you cut a second? It's gonna make him

1407
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 1: pop up? I'm like, I'm talk him into it. He's

1408
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 1: grown man, right.

1409
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I still suffer from that.

1410
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 3: I've gotten better in my thirties, but I'm definitely one

1411
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 3: of those people that harps on the why and it

1412
01:01:58,560 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 3: never really changes once I know the why.

1413
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

1414
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 2: But yeah, one of those people that like, I.

1415
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 3: Need to know why, the same way that the stereotype

1416
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 3: is nots picks bad beats. I think that's a stupid

1417
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 3: stereotype that hip hop has just taken on.

1418
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 5: I don't know if he was like, but he wrapped

1419
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 5: on a lot of bad beasts though.

1420
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's had a thirty year career. It's gonna fucking happen.

1421
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 3: And he put out an house once a year.

1422
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 1: He also he also okay, he also.

1423
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 4: Take your time.

1424
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 1: This is weird. No, it's weird to say. I interviewed him,

1425
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 1: and I asked him about that, about the beat selection. Yeah, actually,

1426
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 1: actually he's one of my cover stories, one of my

1427
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 1: proudest moments.

1428
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 2: This was the source.

1429
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, many moons ago, sitting in the Spotted Pig,

1430
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 1: his restaurant. We were like upstairs where no one was

1431
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 1: me and him and Gabe from Death Cham Gabe. Yeah,

1432
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 1: for real, insane human being. I asked him why he

1433
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 1: did that?

1434
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 2: Why did you pick bad beasts?

1435
01:02:59,240 --> 01:02:59,439
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1436
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 1: I don't remember the exact way, the way I had to.

1437
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 1: I had to. I'm in a room I can't be

1438
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 1: I can't be biased, and I'm from Queens. You know,

1439
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 1: this is like the guy. If I don't ask this question.

1440
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 2: You're not asking any question.

1441
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 6: You know.

1442
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 2: I ask that one.

1443
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 1: Everybody else is at the office. What the fuck did

1444
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 1: you do? I'll never get another story again in my life.

1445
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 1: I'll never get a feature again in my life. So

1446
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 1: I asked him, and his answer surprised me two questions.

1447
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 1: I asked him that His answer surprised me. One I

1448
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 1: asked him, like, why he got married at the time

1449
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 1: he was married to Kelly Kalisa. He just wanted and

1450
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 1: he said, all my heroes have been married men. Everybody

1451
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 1: I've ever looked up to it has have been married man.

1452
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 1: Besides the fact that I think my wife was made

1453
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 1: for me, all my heroes in life have been married men.

1454
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 2: Respect.

1455
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 1: I was like, okay. He started like rattling Malcolm ICs

1456
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Oh man, okay, got it. The beats thing.

1457
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, the story is you pick

1458
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 1: bad beats. What's up with that? And he goes, I

1459
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 1: want people to pay more attention to what I'm saying.

1460
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 1: Then what the beat sounds like? You can't ever think

1461
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 1: that I don't get offered or every beat under the

1462
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 1: sun from every producer under the sun. And that kind

1463
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 1: of gave him like a little side eye, and he said,

1464
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 1: think about it. I always give you one. I know

1465
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 1: what you want. Every album, I give you at least

1466
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 1: one or two. I make it a point to do that.

1467
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 1: But I don't want to beat. He basically said, I

1468
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 1: don't want to beat to be more important than what

1469
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I'm not picking like the Superhillis beats,

1470
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 1: but I do that when it's time to and he

1471
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 1: starts rattling off his albums and he's naming the tracks

1472
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 1: on those albums where the beat is crazy and he's

1473
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 1: going crazy. He was like, but I'm not going to

1474
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 1: do that like every time, and whether you believe him

1475
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 1: or not, whether you believe him or not is irrelevant.

1476
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I'm not mad at that, because again,

1477
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 5: I never thought that NAS's beats were you know, every

1478
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 5: track on every album was terrible, but there was some

1479
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 5: joints like to me, you know, the the battle with

1480
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 5: him and Jay to this day, I think Ether is

1481
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 5: one of the worst.

1482
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 2: Beats on disagree there.

1483
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 3: Ever, that the fact that he's on there going at

1484
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 3: Jay kind of to what he gets overlooked, and that's

1485
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 3: what he's what he's saying. If you go to YouTube

1486
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 3: now and just type in ether instrumental without Knaws on it,

1487
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 3: you would be like, what the fuck did this guy

1488
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 3: even here in that studio?

1489
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 2: How did this even make it?

1490
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 3: Onto adapt Yeah, like it's not finished, But to Brown,

1491
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 3: he didn't keep He has also beat for in that

1492
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 3: moment is like, why did you how did you plan on?

1493
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 1: That? Look fits right into the answer that he gave.

1494
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 2: It was effective.

1495
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 1: He's after he said that his whole career just kind

1496
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 1: of like shifted over a little bit. His whole discography.

1497
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 1: You look at it way different. You look at the

1498
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 1: songs where he's really saying some ship and those beats

1499
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 1: are kind of not the greatest that he could have found.

1500
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 1: But his whole thing to me was do you really

1501
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 1: think I don't get those beats? First? You think they

1502
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 1: don't send those to me? Yeah, but I'm just at

1503
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 1: least producers. I definitely think he does.

1504
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 5: But I love Nas one of the you know, one

1505
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 5: of my hip hop heroes, but he's absolutely insane for

1506
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:15,919
Speaker 5: passing on some of the shit that I know he's

1507
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 5: hurt like and didn't be like nah, but you know

1508
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, I really want to get off on

1509
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 5: this one because what I'm saying is gonna overshine.

1510
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 2: Did you think the hate Me and Now beat was fire?

1511
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 2: It wasn't terrible. That's a great beat, Yeah, it wasn't.

1512
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 3: Nas got killed for doing that, Like he can't win

1513
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:34,479
Speaker 3: for losing if he went even I'm on the side

1514
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 3: of you owe Me as Fire, but Nas got killed

1515
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 3: for that. Anytime he's went the route of the beats

1516
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 3: that people want him to do, he gets killed for it.

1517
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I think he got killed more for you

1518
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 5: owe Me because you owe me as incredible the hook

1519
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 5: and then genuine it was just too much. It felt

1520
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 5: too industry, shiny two record two record industrys like.

1521
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 2: Five ondres like in that hook, like.

1522
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 5: Y'all made this and said like, oh we got radio

1523
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 5: with this, like and I hate when rappers do that.

1524
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 6: But that's not fair because Jay did that a lot too,

1525
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 6: and he's don't getting killed for every rapper does that.

1526
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 6: Jay got killed for what I was young. So yeah,

1527
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 6: Jay got killed.

1528
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 2: For a lot of joints. I mean most of volume money.

1529
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 3: Got killed for Sunshine. He had this, this shiny, great

1530
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 3: record record. I love the record, but he got killed

1531
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 3: for that.

1532
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 5: Every rapper has to have, especially then, and you have

1533
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 5: to have that moment where it's like, Okay, I'm in

1534
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 5: the music business now I have to kind of like

1535
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 5: adhere to what the labels are saying they want.

1536
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 1: And they need his answer, his answer for doing his

1537
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 1: answer for uh owe me? When I asked him was.

1538
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 1: I wanted to show them that I can do what

1539
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 1: they do while they can't do what I do. I

1540
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 1: wanted to go in their world and show them I

1541
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 1: can do this whenever I feel like it, and you

1542
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 1: can't come in my world and do what I do.

1543
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 1: But your ship is so easy and this is so candy.

1544
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:53,439
Speaker 1: I can go over here whenever I want walking your world,

1545
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 1: wipe my feet on your on your on your carpet,

1546
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 1: and then walk right back out, and you can't follow

1547
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 1: me and go do the stuff I do again. His

1548
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 1: the interview put a lot of things in perspective for me.

1549
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean even with that, let's go with

1550
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 3: NAS's Prime ninety four to two thousand and two, Illmatic.

1551
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 3: It was written, I am Nostradamis still Madict god Son. Yes,

1552
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 3: you can say Nostradamis wasn't the one, even though I

1553
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 3: think comparing to NAS's catalog, yes it's not it, but

1554
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:21,760
Speaker 3: it's better than half of every rappers first project. Ever,

1555
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 3: Where are their bad beats in those? In everything I

1556
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 3: just named Wow ninety four to two thousand and two,

1557
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 3: Tell me where there's bad beats?

1558
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 1: Well, you can't. You can't even start with the first

1559
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 1: one that was the first super producer album that was

1560
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 1: like the original experiment, A bunch of super producers get

1561
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:43,639
Speaker 1: together with this fucking prodigy and put together a perfect album.

1562
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 2: It was written starts with the message I don't have the.

1563
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 1: I don't have the slan de fit was written at

1564
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 1: other people seem No, I don't. I don't get it.

1565
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 2: I think I can make a case it's better than nomadic.

1566
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:55,599
Speaker 1: I've heard that argument before. I don't agree.

1567
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 2: I heard that it has more replay val.

1568
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 3: Maybe it's just because illmatic on is like Thriller, heard

1569
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:01,879
Speaker 3: it so many times that you don't always.

1570
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 1: Go back for whatever reason. I like, what did I say?

1571
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 2: I'm not mad argument, but it's not better than it?

1572
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't agree, but not even doing that, I

1573
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 1: get it.

1574
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 3: I am starts with New York State of Mine, Part two,

1575
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 3: which I could argue is better than the first one.

1576
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 2: Then to hate Me now it.

1577
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 3: Had it has nass like on there, like, what are

1578
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 3: we talking about with nas and bad beats? He said,

1579
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 3: this is a stereotype that hip hop took on, and

1580
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 3: because it sounded cool, everyone kept going with it.

1581
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:28,760
Speaker 7: I don't know about that, because he knows, he knows

1582
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:31,720
Speaker 7: he's because it's been a stigma. But people always say,

1583
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 7: but nobody, nobody gives me the beats that are bad.

1584
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:36,639
Speaker 7: What's a bad beat on Stillmatic?

1585
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 2: You're the Man? Was probably the best beat of that year.

1586
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:43,680
Speaker 3: Now, But you know what, though, because second Childhood is

1587
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 3: one of the best beating I can staying.

1588
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 2: With Mechas saying though in that in him asking NAS that.

1589
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:50,719
Speaker 3: Got Yourself agaud Now that you're running up for the titles,

1590
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 3: I could hear the beat and I'm like, if I

1591
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 3: didn't hear NAS rapping on that, what I love that

1592
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 3: beat though?

1593
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:57,640
Speaker 1: And here we go.

1594
01:09:58,040 --> 01:09:58,760
Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying.

1595
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 1: The ceiling is different when you start comparing when you

1596
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:04,559
Speaker 1: have a rapper who you can only compare to himself.

1597
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:07,560
Speaker 3: Okay, but what is a rapper's job when they go

1598
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:10,559
Speaker 3: into the studio. It is to produce the best song

1599
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 3: that they can make. So if this is what brings

1600
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 3: out the best, NOAs and I can say this song

1601
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 3: is incredible. My ears for hip hop is for the

1602
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:22,760
Speaker 3: final product of the song. I'm not listening to got

1603
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 3: Yourself a Gun and going you know what, I love this,

1604
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 3: but let me just go listen to the instrumental and

1605
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 3: decide this is okay. No, Nas took that beat, put

1606
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 3: his foot in it and created an amazing song. But

1607
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 3: that's the point of a rapper.

1608
01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the ones where he was saying,

1609
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:39,400
Speaker 1: I always give you one. I think that's one, like

1610
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:40,520
Speaker 1: you're naming.

1611
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 3: The ones though he got yourself a gun smoking, you're

1612
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:45,680
Speaker 3: the man, rewind one mic second child destroying, rebuild the

1613
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 3: flyest rule, name a bad beat.

1614
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:52,960
Speaker 2: Again. I get what I'm saying, but everyone needs to

1615
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 2: stop saying about Nas.

1616
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 5: I get what you're saying, But there are some of

1617
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 5: those beats a right, put it like this if you

1618
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 5: run those off, right, But then be like, let me

1619
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 5: hear the shit you turned down when he was making

1620
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 5: this album.

1621
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean, but that's like yo, you like then

1622
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 1: again like the difference, And we're not in the studio

1623
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 1: to know exactly which ones he's talking about it.

1624
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:14,559
Speaker 2: But to me, that's something that you can't prove.

1625
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 3: And it's like, but on that beat we love, maybe

1626
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 3: NAS wouldn't have done what was supposed to be done

1627
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 3: on that beat.

1628
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 1: I only I only I asked the question because of

1629
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 1: the stigma. I only back it up because he acknowledged it.

1630
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 1: But I again, I only think he acknowledged it because

1631
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 1: he understands that we're comparing him to him. Yeah, he's

1632
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 1: he's in different airspace. Jay is only whack when you

1633
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 1: compare him to J. You can't compare it Ja to

1634
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:41,760
Speaker 1: the landscape and say he's whack. Okay, well what about this, dude?

1635
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 1: I mean you know, I mean, when you when you

1636
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 1: start running into the artist where their name alone ends

1637
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 1: the argument which is which is? I hear that a lot,

1638
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 1: But what do you think about this? I mean, I'm

1639
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:57,640
Speaker 1: not Nas, but when you start hearing I mean, I

1640
01:11:57,680 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 1: ain't Jay. I mean, but that's J. When you start

1641
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 1: here and that ship where we're now only comparing them

1642
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:05,640
Speaker 1: to them, you don't compare them to anybody else. So

1643
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 1: NAS's lackluster facade stigma is because they're comparing everything to him.

1644
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 1: They want more. And when he switches the tone, when

1645
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 1: it's no longer the gritty, grimy sound of Illmatic and

1646
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 1: it's the slick sound of it was written. Ah, come on, man,

1647
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 1: come on, what you doing? Which they want him to

1648
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 1: follow up a classic? But then when when you have

1649
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:35,760
Speaker 1: the generation that came in under under it was written, Well,

1650
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:37,680
Speaker 1: then the next one sounds kind of, ah, come on,

1651
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 1: bring track masses back.

1652
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 2: What you doing? Yeah, bring Primo back?

1653
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 1: What you're doing? How come you never did the album

1654
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 1: with prem You know, all that shit catches up and

1655
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:48,560
Speaker 1: that builds the stigma. But the fact that he acknowledged

1656
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:52,959
Speaker 1: it tells me that he knows he's turned down some ship. Yeah, absolutely,

1657
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 1: in order to give us the joint City's given us.

1658
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 1: But I don't I don't disagree with you.

1659
01:12:58,040 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 2: Starts with get Down.

1660
01:12:59,520 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 1: I love that.

1661
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:04,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, he j is on that album, but.

1662
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:07,640
Speaker 1: That's one of the ones. He actually named that one.

1663
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 1: He's like, think about it, this one, this one. As

1664
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:13,720
Speaker 1: you're rattling the more off I'm remembering him saying that one.

1665
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 2: This one like what I love that I can beat

1666
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:17,759
Speaker 2: in the studio.

1667
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 3: Probably not, but NAS's vision of that of what he

1668
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:21,639
Speaker 3: was going to do with the kids on the hook

1669
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 3: and the message.

1670
01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that beat fits what he was supposed to do

1671
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 2: and classic song.

1672
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:26,760
Speaker 1: And he also wanted you to hear what he was

1673
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:28,519
Speaker 1: going to say. That's one of those message records.