1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: In the Lab, a Texans podcast that takes a different 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: look at things to Doherty and John Harris have their 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: lab coats and goggles on and the Bunsen burners burning. 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: Here's Drew, Hello there, and welcome to this over Unders 5 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 2: edition Texans in the Lab album. I'm Drew Doherty. That's 6 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 2: John with his jazzy hands, John Harris. Of course, we're 7 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: excited to be with you. John OTA's mini camp now 8 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 2: in the rearview Mirror officially, and they're on break for 9 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 2: another five weeks and change. Lots of other other NFL 10 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 2: teams around the league still doing their mini camps and 11 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 2: getting going. Most notably we've heard about the Jets and 12 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 2: what's going on with them, and a lot of the 13 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: AFC South teams really, all of them except for the Texans. 14 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 3: So and the Browns are doing it too. 15 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: But the Texans are finished, and with that, our attention 16 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: turns toward the fall. I know, we got to hit 17 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 2: August and all that other stuff in July as well, 18 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 2: but let's hit the field, let's get serious, let's do 19 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 2: some overrunders. 20 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 3: But before we do, you all right, man? 21 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, Overrunners are good. I always like them, and you know, 22 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 4: I love in a lab. So yeah, ready to roll, man, 23 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 4: let's go, let's go. 24 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, three point seven? 25 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 3: What the heck? 26 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: Three point seven? Man over under? Are the Texans gonna 27 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: hit that number or go under that number? Three point 28 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: seven yards per carry? That's what the average last year? Yeah, 29 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 2: on the ground, you know, you gotta go all the 30 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 2: way back to David Johnson and Deshaun Watson and Duke 31 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: Johnson in twenty twenty for a Texans team that averaged 32 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 2: batter than four yards of carry in a season, they 33 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 2: were actually a four point six, which is not bad. 34 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: I was surprised by that. 35 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 4: I remember. 36 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 3: Anyways. Yeah, he's like, let's not go down that whole. 37 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 4: But twenty twenty they were over four yards of carry. 38 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 2: Point six yards of carry. John they had nearly five 39 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: yards of carriag Now, I think. 40 00:01:58,080 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 3: A lot of that. 41 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 4: I would have never guessed that number. 42 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 2: Coming from behind all that stuff, and you know, maybe 43 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 2: softer defenses. 44 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, so on so forth. 45 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 2: But do you think with Joe Mixon, with Damian Pierce, 46 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: with Daria Gumbwalle, Jwar Jordan, maybe someone else in the 47 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: mix as well? 48 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 3: Some runs by C. J. 49 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 2: Stroud and in a round or two or three or 50 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 2: four by Tank Dell and Xavier Hutchinson and maybe somebody else. 51 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 2: Does Andrew Beck get in the mix? Does the number rise? 52 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 2: Does the number fall? Evan's forbid, Evan forbid? What do 53 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 2: you think over under. 54 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 4: We're gonna go up, We're gonna go over. Yeah, we're 55 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 4: going over the three point seven. I mean even getting 56 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 4: into three point eight, which isn't a great number, but 57 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 4: just getting to three point eight in his own game, 58 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 4: So I'll take that. I think this offense is gonna 59 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 4: run the ball a whole heck of a lot better. Now, 60 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 4: you threw in one thing that can change the math 61 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 4: on this a little bit, and that's CJ. Stroud runs. 62 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 4: He didn't have a lot of quarterback sneaks. When CJ ran, 63 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,119 Speaker 4: he dropped the throw, he'd look, he'd pick up seven 64 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 4: yards on a scramble. He pick up fifteen yards on 65 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 4: a scramble. And so you know, two runs for twenty 66 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 4: two yards. Al Right, he's up in the average a 67 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 4: little bit. But I just think overall, the run game 68 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 4: is just going to be better. I mean, I think 69 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 4: bringing Joe Mixon in here was the right tonic. I 70 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 4: think that Damian Pierce in year two in this system 71 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 4: is going to be much better than he wasn't year one. 72 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 4: And then you mentioned some other guys, whether it's you know, 73 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 4: Dari or juor Jordan. I mean, who didn't know JJ Taylor, 74 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 4: maybe guys that maybe a lot of people don't even 75 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 4: know about that. We've been able to see dotas in 76 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 4: mini camp. I'm excited to see j J. 77 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 3: I don't even hear yet. 78 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's the other part, you don't even I mean, 79 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 4: I think about Derek Barnett. I saw video floating around 80 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 4: of him on Twitter yesterday and maybe think, man, we 81 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 4: didn't even know Derek Barnett until what late November here, 82 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 4: and he's just he's incredible down a stretch. So it's 83 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 4: it's out outside the route possibility to get the four. 84 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 4: Don't get greedy, but this offense gets the four yards 85 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 4: per carry. Just forget it. It's gonna be really difficult to. 86 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 2: Say, well, the pass caissing catching off that's exactly what 87 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 2: you have their weapon one, that's right, Okay, so you're 88 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 2: gonna go over all right, here's here's one. Okay, thirty 89 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 2: six point five Okay. Last year in the win over 90 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 2: the Bucks, the Texans allowed thirty seven points to Tampa Bay. 91 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 2: Oh that's right, Yeah, that was their worst per game 92 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 2: or in game defensive effort. Now, you scored thirty nine 93 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 2: and you won the game. But she gave up thirty 94 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 2: seven Three other times last season you gave up thirty 95 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: points or more in a game. 96 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 3: So thirty six and a half. 97 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 2: Over or under in a game, will that be the 98 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: worst in game defensive performance points wise by the Texans offense. 99 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 4: By the Texans offense, Sexans defense, Texans defense. I think 100 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 4: that I'm gonna go under. We're going under. I don't 101 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 4: see this defense. Now again, you can get into a shootout. 102 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 4: Happened last year against the Bucks. It was a game 103 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 4: where the Texans couldn't run the ball, the Bucks couldn't 104 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 4: run the ball, and so it turned into a throwing contest. 105 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 4: And there's probably one of those on this schedule at 106 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 4: some point. But I just don't see the Texans giving 107 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 4: up thirty seven in a game. There's gonna be a 108 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 4: gamer two in the thirties, probably just because of some 109 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 4: of the offenses that they're gonna be facing. But I 110 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 4: can also see in some of those games where they're 111 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 4: facing pretty good offenses. You know, those games are at home, 112 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 4: and the Texans, you know, jump up quickly and away 113 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 4: you go. But I'm gonna go under. I do think 114 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 4: there will be a game or two where teams will 115 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 4: score in the thirties, but not not many, and there 116 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 4: won't be any over thirty six and a half. There 117 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 4: won't be any thirty seven point numbers on this schedule 118 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty four. So I'm going under with the 119 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 4: with the thought that, yes, there will be a couple 120 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 4: of thirty point games against them because the offenses they face. 121 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 2: Hey John will Anderson junior. Yeah, I know, he's entering 122 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 2: year two. He was then defensive Rookie the Year last year. 123 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 2: Oh hey John daneil Hunter coming off sixteen and a 124 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,559 Speaker 2: half sacks a career best. Yeah, he's got eighty seven 125 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 2: and change in his career. Still a pretty young man. Hey, 126 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 2: John Deniko Autry also coming off one of his career 127 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: best years. He had double digit sacks. So that three 128 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 2: headed monster, that holy trinity or unholy trinity combined over 129 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 2: under will they hit twenty four and a half sacks 130 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 2: as a recently. 131 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're going on doubt. Yeah, I 132 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 4: don't no doubts a strong way of saying it. 133 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 2: Because if you just take what they did individually and 134 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 2: added up, they shatter it. But is that gonna be 135 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 2: able to Is that gonna happen? I mean, because is 136 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 2: one guy gonna get more or less because of the 137 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: other guy or the other guy, you know that type 138 00:06:59,640 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 2: of thing. 139 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 4: I well, it's a good number. I think they're gonna 140 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 4: get over it. I think I think one of those 141 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 4: guys gets the double digits. But I don't think I 142 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 4: think what Daniel's number was, like sixteen and a half, yes, 143 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 4: last year, sixteen, sixteen and a half something like that. 144 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 4: I don't know that any of them get to that number. Yeah, 145 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 4: but could I see them, you know, two of them 146 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 4: getting to eleven eleven and a half, Yes, absolutely, I 147 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 4: could see that. I think they're gonna be able to 148 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 4: create pressure from a lot of different angles and spots 149 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 4: in places and do different things and scheme wise mix 150 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 4: things up. So I do think that's a number that's very, 151 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 4: very reachable from those from those three and again you 152 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 4: said twenty four, I mean that's eight roughly on average. 153 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 4: I think you're gonna be able to get there because 154 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 4: to the point earlier. They're gonna score points, they're gonna 155 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 4: put pressure out of their offenses to have to match 156 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 4: those points, and in so doing, they're gonna have to 157 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 4: throw the ball. To be able to throw it, they 158 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 4: gotta protect and those guys. 159 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 3: Fans to wring them up. Absolutely. 160 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're gonna have a lot more, lot more bucket 161 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,119 Speaker 4: opportunities if you will. 162 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 2: I'm glad you said that number eight, you know, because 163 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 2: you multiply it by three when you're twenty four, and 164 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: that's you know, half a sack under what I said 165 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 2: as the over underline, you get three guys who get 166 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 2: eight sacks apiece. That's a problem. That's a that's a 167 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: good problem. It's a good problem for you, and that's 168 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: a real big problem for opposing offensive lines absolutely, offensive 169 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 2: coordinators and quarterbacks. Okay, so that's that three three headed monster. 170 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 2: But as a whole Texans defense last year they had 171 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 2: forty six sacks as a team during the season. So 172 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 2: let's set the over under forty five point five over under, 173 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 2: more sacks than last year, less sex than last year. 174 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 4: I feel like for the things we just said, and 175 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 4: for the fact that you'll have more teams throwing the 176 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 4: ball against an offense. Hopefully that's gonna put up some points. 177 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 4: So they've got to chase. And because they're chasing, you 178 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 4: can go chase their quarterbacks. So I think they're gonna 179 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 4: have more oppert cotunities. Now, that's a pretty salty number 180 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 4: that the Texans got to last year. 181 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 3: I think it's two point seven per game. 182 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think sometimes I can't forget that was one 183 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 4: of the was that the that was the best in history. 184 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 4: But it it's pretty close in Texans history. So it's 185 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,719 Speaker 4: gonna be tough to match that number. The only way 186 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 4: you would have been able to do it is if 187 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 4: you added Daniel Hunter and you added Deniico Autry and 188 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 4: oh oh yeah, and Will Anderson is going to his 189 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 4: second year. Well yeah, you're gonna go over it. And 190 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,599 Speaker 4: you know, you know, I mentioned Derek Barnett. So to me, 191 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 4: the way you were gonna get over that number replacing 192 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 4: John Grenard who had a number of sackson Look, don't 193 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 4: discount blitzes, Jalen Peatrick, Christian Harris, them pitching in three four, 194 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 4: five sack years into that full number. Because the first 195 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 4: number you asked about was twenty four. That was just 196 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 4: three guys now Hunter Autry and will get some help 197 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 4: from Derek Barnett. They get some help from the blitzers, 198 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 4: from the line back to get to that total number. 199 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 4: So I think that number is doable. It's gonna be hard, 200 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 4: and I think it's over, but not not by an 201 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 4: excessive amount just because that's such a difficult number to 202 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 4: get to. 203 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is okay, So that sacks. Let's stick with 204 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 2: the defense over under thirteen and a half. Last year, 205 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,719 Speaker 2: you had fourteen interceptions as a team. Stingley led the 206 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 2: way with five of them thirteen point five. I INT's 207 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 2: over under. I said that about Stingley, But factor in 208 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 2: you've got Jalen Petree. 209 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 3: In year two. 210 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 4: Yep. 211 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 2: Do we see more of Jimmy Ward because he was 212 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 2: injured a good chunk last year. Does Kaylin Bulloch make 213 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 2: a name for himself? What do we see Kamar Lasser 214 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 2: corner from Kamara last year? So keep those of them 215 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: and and keep in mind tie it into what we 216 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 2: were talking about just about four minutes ago. The defenses, 217 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 2: the front sevens pass rush. What can they do as 218 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 2: far as getting to the quarterback when they don't get 219 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 2: the sack? Are they messing them up right having them throw. 220 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 4: Aarrently, I'm gonna go under on this one, okay, because 221 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 4: I feel like it'll be one of the other I 222 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 4: feel like they're gonna get They're either gonna have more 223 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 4: takeaways or they're gonna have more sacks. And since the 224 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 4: sack question was first and I was positive about that, 225 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 4: so we'll go with that first and then the interceptions. 226 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 4: I would love for them to be there, but I 227 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 4: just think they're gonna be able to get to quarterbacks 228 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 4: more often. Teams are not gonna make dumb mistakes and 229 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 4: just try and throw it out there like Joe Flacco did, 230 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 4: and they'll eat it. They'll take sacks, but they won't 231 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 4: give up as many interceptions. Now, I do think they'll 232 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 4: be in the in the eleventh through thirteen range, but 233 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 4: I think they're gonna fall just short of last year. 234 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 4: Teams are not gonna throw much at Stingley, and I 235 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 4: would love to see Kamari make them pay with six 236 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 4: seven interceptions, but I don't know how doable that is. Boy, 237 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 4: I'd love to be able to get there over forty 238 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 4: six and a half, get the fifty sacks, get the 239 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 4: fifteen interceptions. Be interesting to look back at teams that 240 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 4: have gotten to those numbers. What teams did that had 241 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 4: fifty sacks and fifteen interceptions in a season. 242 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. 243 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 4: It's kind of interesting number to be able to look at. 244 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't, and I don't know that. 245 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't either. I'm just kind of throwing it 246 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 4: out there as benchmars. I'm gonna go under just so 247 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 4: I'm not a total homer for all of these. But 248 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 4: I do think that they'll get more sacks because of 249 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 4: the ops. They'll get for that, and then they will interceptions. 250 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 4: I think teams are going to be teams are gonna 251 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 4: they're gonna play. Look, first of all, they're gonna play 252 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 4: some smarter quarterbacks, some veteran quarterbacks, some guys that don't 253 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 4: throw a lot of interceptions historically, right. But I hope 254 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 4: they get over that number. I just think it'll fall 255 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 4: a little bit short. 256 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 2: Okay, so picked off the ball fourteen times as a 257 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 2: team last year, it's just interceptions, yep. Okay, you also 258 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 2: had ten fumble recoveries. Wow, on offense and special teams combined. 259 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 2: So you only turn the ball over as a team 260 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: fourteen times last year? You were plus ten turnover differential, 261 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 2: which was a top five mark, tied for top five, 262 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 2: But you led the NFL with just fourteen giveaways. Fourteen turnovers, 263 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 2: right all right? So with that in mind, twenty four 264 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 2: was the takeaway total. You had, those fourteen picks, you 265 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 2: had the ten fumble recovers, over under twenty three and 266 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 2: a half takeaways. 267 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 3: Does this defense get there? 268 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go under, but not by much. I think 269 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 4: it's gonna be anywhere between eighteen to twenty takeaways. 270 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 2: Do you think it's mainly just because of the cleanliness 271 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 2: and high quality quarterback player in the sea. 272 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 4: I think it's both. The thing is two things. Number One, 273 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 4: I think it'll be quarterbacks that in particular make decisions 274 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 4: to eat it, take a sack, or throw it away 275 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 4: as opposed to throwing the covers like Joe Flacco did 276 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 4: last year in the playoff game as an example. Now, 277 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 4: you do face some quarterbacks, you face some younger quarterbacks. 278 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 4: You might be able to take advantage of that. But 279 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 4: I just think on the whole, you face a veteran 280 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 4: crew of guys, and because you're facing a veteran crew guys, 281 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 4: I don't know if you get many interception opportunities and 282 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 4: the fumbles. I mean, look, you get to a point 283 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 4: where you of the football guys are punching it out, 284 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 4: they work on it. You know, this defense is really 285 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 4: good working on that. But I feel like some of 286 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 4: that has got a little mix of luck in there 287 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 4: as well. So I'm gonna say that it's under twenty four, 288 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 4: but I still think it's a healthy number that the 289 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 4: Texans will offense will do something with it. Whether they 290 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 4: get eighteen nineteen twenty, they'll be I think better scoring 291 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 4: off of those turnovers than maybe they were even last year. 292 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 4: So they can survive with eighteen to twenty overall. But 293 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 4: they're getting a lot more sacks. And look, you would think, oh, 294 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 4: you get more sacks, I'll lead to more third and longs. 295 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 4: It leads to more risky situations with quarterbacks. I don't know. 296 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 4: I think it's depends on the quarterbacks you face, and 297 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 4: I think this be this will be a pretty salty 298 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 4: group of quarterbacks. So I'm gonna go under the twenty 299 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 4: four under. Okay, under twenty three and a half, sorry, 300 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 4: under twenty three and a half. All right, Well, since 301 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 4: it's mid June, we got to wrap it up with 302 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 4: this one. Okay, what is your faceavorite all time summer blockbuster. 303 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 3: Movie that you saw in the theater? Ever? 304 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 4: Uh, now I'm going back, man, I'm trying to think, well, 305 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 4: go back, that's fun. Ummer. 306 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 3: There's old people that watch and listen to this too. 307 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, Dave Power, Yeah, Dave, Dave's listening. I'd 308 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 4: have to look up because I want. 309 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 2: To say when we count ourselves as old to day, yeah, 310 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 2: we are, just we're pretty old. 311 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 4: Now if I remember right, I think it ended up 312 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 4: being a blockbuster. I'm trying to think when it was. Yeah, 313 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 4: I was right. Okay, my memory is a little hazy 314 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 4: after forty years, but I remember seeing in the same 315 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 4: summer Ghostbusters, the original Ghostbusters and Karate Kid. Karate Kid 316 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 4: was actually released on June twenty. Secondly, and man, that 317 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 4: summer of eighty four, I remember, I remember those two 318 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 4: coming out, and I want to say that did did 319 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 4: foot Loose? 320 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 3: It was, Yeah, it was eighty four. I think it 321 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 3: was eighty four. 322 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 2: Your boy Kevin Bacon just spoke at the high school 323 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 2: where that was filmed. 324 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 3: He got like. 325 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 2: They signed like this online petition to try to get 326 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 2: him to speak at the graduation. 327 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 3: So he and he came. 328 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 4: Now, I saw Footloose in the summer, but it came 329 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 4: out in February of that year, of February of eighty four, 330 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 4: So he had Footloose and Karate Kid and Ghostbusters all 331 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 4: coming out in nineteen eighty four with in months of 332 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 4: one another. 333 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 3: The Natural also came out May eleventh of eighty four. 334 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that. And I was so nineteen eighty four, 335 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 4: so that was after my first year here in Houston, 336 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 4: so I was going into seventh grade. I lived at 337 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 4: the theater. Ghostbusters came out June eighth, uh, and then 338 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 4: Karate Kid was June twenty second. So I I guarantee 339 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 4: you I saw all these at the at the movie 340 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 4: theater in nineteen eighty four. 341 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 2: Boom plus Waverly Hills Cop plus Indiana Jones and the 342 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 2: Temple Foom Beverly plus Kremlin's plus Police Academy. 343 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 4: Beverly Hills Cop. I remember seeing my I remember seeing 344 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 4: with my parents and it's that was a December release. Yeah, 345 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 4: I remember seeing that with my parents. We went to 346 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 4: the movie theater to watch that because that go the 347 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 4: family was my dad always my dad always couched as 348 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 4: there in anything that Johnny has heard seen he'll be okay, 349 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 4: he'll he'll handle it. And it was true. I handled it. 350 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 4: I mean, you know whatever. Uh, but it was they 351 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 4: were big fans Eddie Murphy and so I mean who wasn't. 352 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 4: And so that's that was one of the reasons we 353 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 4: ended up seeing that movie. But yeah, those those movies 354 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 4: all came out in nineteen eighty four. So that's that's 355 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 4: the year that I really kind of associate going to 356 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 4: blockbuster movies. Yeah, that's that's the year because we just lived. 357 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 4: We lived at the mall. We lived. I mean, one 358 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 4: of our mom's parents had to take us, you know, 359 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 4: we were twelve years old, and we just would go 360 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 4: hang out at the mall and then we'd go see 361 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 4: a movie. And so our parents would just drop us 362 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 4: off at you know, ten in the morning, eleven in 363 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 4: the morning, and then we're seeing you know, hey, we're 364 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 4: seeing Ghostbusters at two or whatever. Hey, yo, yo, who's 365 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,959 Speaker 4: ever parent come pick us up at six? And we 366 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 4: just had all day in the mall. We have a 367 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 4: little you know, parents woul give us little bit of 368 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 4: money in our pockets. We go play arcade games, we'd 369 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 4: go walk the mall, we go electrons boutique. That was 370 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 4: one place we always went to. We'd get an. 371 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 3: Orange Julius Spencer's. 372 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,360 Speaker 4: Spencer's for sure, absolutely. 373 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 2: We just. 374 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, County Seat. We'd go to County Seat. That was 375 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 4: one way back in the day to get some jeans. Wait, 376 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 4: which mall we go to west Oaks West Ooks, Yeah, yeah, man, 377 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 4: west Oaks was. West Oaks was the business back in 378 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 4: the day. Now not so much, but back in the day. 379 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 4: So that's what kids used to do. Man, we just 380 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 4: go mess around, even all the way through high school. 381 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 4: By a high school, we're winn our letter jackets and 382 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 4: showing it all off. But not four was the blockbuster 383 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 4: movie year. That was an incredible year, and we just 384 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 4: lived at the theater. 385 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 2: For me, it's the Top Gun and it's the nineteen 386 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 2: eighty six one, yeah, and the twenty twenty two to 387 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 2: one because Top Gun, Maverick I thought was everything Top 388 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 2: Gun was, but every part of it was elevated even better. 389 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 2: But I remember I'd cut my eye and had to 390 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 2: get stitches. I was nine years old, yeah, and so 391 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 2: I couldn't go swimming, I couldn't do a lot of things. 392 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 2: And I remember going and seeing Top Gun with my 393 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 2: dad over, and I believe it was Town and Country. 394 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 2: Below's three there's only three theaters or something right there 395 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 2: at the beltway, and I tend there was used to 396 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 2: be a ratison right next to it. But anyways, I 397 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,239 Speaker 2: saw a top Gun and loved it. I love it 398 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 2: so much I got a flat top haircutt haircut right afterwards. 399 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 2: It was a desk with all things military aircraft for 400 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 2: about two three years afterwards. 401 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 3: Maverick, Top Gun, Maverick. 402 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 2: That's the first movie that my eighties now an eight 403 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 2: year old saw in the theater. It's only the this 404 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 2: second movie that my ten year old, actually my eleven 405 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 2: year old saw in the theater. 406 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 3: So they loved it. 407 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 2: They ate it up, saw it three times because I 408 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 2: took my two boys and they were we were all 409 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 2: just g go about it that my older boys twin 410 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 2: sister said I like movies too. I can't pay me, 411 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 2: So we took her on it and we all the 412 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 2: four of us, me, the twins and the boy, we 413 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 2: went and saw it on a Tuesday afternoon, Tuesday late morning. 414 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 2: It was awesome. And in between all that, my wife 415 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 2: and I went and we saw it. Then the day 416 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:36,199 Speaker 2: it became available on Amazon, yeah, we went and we 417 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 2: bought that. So we've had it since and we love it. 418 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. Top gum Ravers tremendous. Whenever I was coaching many 419 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 4: many years ago, and we'd go on a long trip 420 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:47,239 Speaker 4: be it Saint Petersburg or Tampa or whatever, and there 421 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 4: will always be a VCR or a or a DVD player, 422 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 4: and so the guys are always you know, hey, coach, 423 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 4: can we watch movies? Like, yeah, I'm sure, whatever, what 424 00:20:55,960 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 4: do you want to watch every single long trip? Top 425 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 4: Gun Gun? Top Gun and Navy Seals. Those are the 426 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 4: two they wanted to watch, which I was like, all right, cool, 427 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 4: we'll go with that. 428 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 3: We'll go with those something good. 429 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 4: They seem fine, so we'll go with it. So those 430 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 4: are the two they wanted to watch all the time 431 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 4: on all the trips. 432 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 3: A good crew of kids. 433 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 2: Then if they top Gun for sure, all right, well 434 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 2: you're a top Gun actor. Actually top Gun podcast. Now 435 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 2: I'm taking from Team America the. 436 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 3: The Puppets movie, which that's a good one too. 437 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, this fun always good talk with you, and 438 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 2: over unders is now completely hit. 439 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 3: The over