1 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: What's up, West Up. This is like our first taping 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: of lip Service in twenty nineteen, and we're very excited 3 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 1: her because so many things have happened. Oh my god. 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 1: But I'm Angela, I'm Larry, I'm man put so listen. 5 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: This is gonna be fun because Larry All and I 6 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: are two unmarried never been married before women, Rico Love 7 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: is married, and Ronnie and Shamario obviously married as well. 8 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: So we're gonna hear all different points of views on 9 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: different things today. But I have been watching Real Housewives 10 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: of Atlanta, I have to say, and we've discovered a 11 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: lot of things about you too as a couple, and 12 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: we're gonna get into it today. We love This is 13 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 1: the second time on the show, and he's like our therapist. 14 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: I'm glad you're here. I definitely do not have the answers. 15 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know about that. I think you 16 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: might have something before you guys, perspective, before you guys 17 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: got here. Right, we were talking about blow jobs with 18 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: a condom? Right? Is that only for prostitutes? Yes, that's 19 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 1: the process. Yeah, I don't even if you if you're 20 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 1: comfortable with latex, if you're comfortable with latext if that's 21 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: some whole ship. Yeah, what does it taste like? It's safety? 22 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: Safety tastes like safety. That's not fun, you guys, I 23 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: don't think I've ever done that before, so yeah, I 24 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: definitely think I'm not a prostitude. But Rico, you never 25 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 1: asked a woman to put a condom on? Liked about you. 26 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: We're talking to women, we're talking about what you're putting 27 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: a condom on? Distress episode. Everybody. We know you guys 28 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: were wild back in the day. They never talked to 29 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: you guys about that. Like listen, whatever you do, make 30 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: sure you always use condoms for every year, but not 31 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: all right, right, like you put the condom on after that, 32 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: Like okay, I'm nice and ready. Now let's go the situation. 33 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: Sometimes you put two of them down, so neither of 34 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: you have ever tried it. What you mean to get 35 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: yah tack with a condom line. I'm not gonna say it. 36 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: Never tried it. It's happened, how it fail. You don't 37 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: prefer that? Yeah, yeah, it just feels like I mean, 38 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: if you do use one of those like what are 39 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: they called the lambskin like a little bit when it 40 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: was years ago when I was a label called Brick 41 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: Them Off Records and they were trying to sign that. 42 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: They were trying to sign me Bone Rushers label. He 43 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: was signed a company called Breaking Off Record and a 44 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: guy named Dan Brown. I think it was like eighteen 45 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: years old. So he was trying to sign me. And 46 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 1: this is just right before I signed. So he put 47 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: me in the room like three girls and you know, 48 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: just you know, that's what they needs to do. They 49 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: try to get you back to the girls. So they 50 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: one of the girls put a condom on me before 51 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: she went down on me, So I remember, like that 52 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: does happen? She was She was definitely across to I 53 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: would think, so I definitely know what that's like. But 54 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: it was just like, how did it feel with a condom? Mine? 55 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: It didn't feel intimate at all, Like, but I was 56 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: a kid, so of course I was extremely excited excited. No, no, 57 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: not from that, but immediately after the condom when you 58 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: go from hole to hole to hold a whole hole 59 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: and yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, I wasn't happening that a kid, 60 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: You wasn't changing that kind was just excited about word 61 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: from one to the and the fact that it was 62 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: happening to you, you know, And I wasn't a child star. 63 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: I was as a kid got lucky. It was like yo, 64 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: they thought I could wrap, We're gonna sign him. Now, 65 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: do you think it's easier to be married in this business, 66 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: in this industry than it is to be single? No? No, 67 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: I think after you get your rocks off ultimately and 68 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: you dip for a little bit of time, it becomes easier. 69 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: But um, at sixteen, you know, fifteen, sixteen, coming in 70 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: the industry, it's definitely not easy to be married. And 71 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: then all the way up until you're probably into your thirties, 72 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: just about you felt and you're ready to settle down. Ultimately, 73 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: then it becomes easier. But before that, I mean, come on, y'all. 74 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 1: You got twenty thousand women in any given arena the 75 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,119 Speaker 1: country streaming, and you said to women, because you said sixteen, 76 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: we're talking about growing women probably, you know, So you 77 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: have to understand it. In certain aspects, men mature way 78 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: slower than women, right so especially especially I'm not gonna 79 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: say so, but but no, but in that aspect it's 80 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: slower and slower. So you have to understand women also, 81 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: it's new for them because the things that you require 82 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: the things that you think are natural right and naturally acceptable. 83 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: It's hard for you to express because you think that's automatic. 84 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 1: So it's hard for you to kind of show a 85 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: man where he's flawed at in a in a way no, 86 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: because you feel like and a lot of things that 87 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: are I always tell people the power of success isn't 88 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: the most incredible drug, It is the most dangerous drug. 89 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: Because I was telling somebody other day, I said, I 90 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: could literally be in a most voice and parked a delight. 91 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: I could look over at the beautiful girl and literally 92 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: do this, and she's gonna roll the windle down and 93 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: say three or five four five, You know. So you 94 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: have to understand that that power, given that power, and 95 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: not being trained properly, not being mature enough to understand 96 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: how that power can get away from you, and not 97 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: be an understanding how how damaging and the long lasting 98 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: effects of that power. You can really damage your your 99 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: early life and then draw a certain level of resentment 100 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: from somebody that you truly genuinely love that over time 101 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: is very difficult to undo. And that is the of 102 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: success at the early age and trying to understand monogamy 103 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 1: and consistency in any relationship, because now I'm in a 104 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: position where I had all this power, I didn't know 105 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: what to do with it. And now the person who 106 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: I truly love and truly want to be with resents me. 107 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: So now laiter down the line this love, and I 108 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: think it's equal. She's still harboring this energy which she's human. 109 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: Even if her words say I forgive you, even if 110 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: every part of her body and mind wants to forgive you, 111 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: the smallest thing will happen and she'll just curse you out. 112 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: You know what's It's not about that. It's about all 113 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: the things you didn't pass well for Ronnie. And let's 114 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: talk about you guys for a second. In your situation. 115 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: I feel like Ronnie was more stressed over you than 116 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: you were over him. He was more stressed over me. Yeah. Yeah, 117 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: it's this period Like it's because you guys talk about 118 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: the open relationship, which I felt like Ronnie did not 119 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: want people to know about. No, we talked because he 120 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,799 Speaker 1: was like, why are you telling our business? No, we talked. 121 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: We talked about all of the things that we were 122 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: going to be transparent about, um um um. Ultimately, right, 123 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 1: I think he was just more concerned about where it 124 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: came up at, Like we were at the Bailey Que, Yeah, 125 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: around a bunch of giggling girls, and and you know, 126 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: it was like, why of all places are you talking 127 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: about us being in an open relationship at you know, 128 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: the round table? Yeah. But I knew it was gonna 129 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: come out because before we even thought about doing the 130 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: show and committed to it, it's like, Yo, what do 131 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: we do? How do we fail about this? And you know, 132 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: we prayed about it and God, ultimately, if it's for us, 133 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,679 Speaker 1: then open the door. If not, please shut the ship down. 134 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: And he opened the door for So it was just 135 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: a matter of how it was presented that I was 136 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: a little challenged about. But I knew it was coming out. 137 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be a thing where maybe 138 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: she just pulled Candy to the side. It was like, yo, 139 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: you know, this is kind of how you know, we 140 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: did our thing before we turned the corner and ultimately 141 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: got to our blessing, which is our two incredible boys. 142 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: But that's all. That's really all it was. But it 143 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: feels like Shamari might have been more like you were 144 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: a nerve is that she might have wanted to be 145 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: with somebody else more than she was worried about you. Uh, 146 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: it was just it was this. It was a really 147 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: painful time for us, and I was just like in 148 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: this state of brokenness and I just really didn't even 149 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: know what I wanted. And I was unsure about our marriage. 150 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: I was unsure about a whole lot of things. So 151 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: that was just the way that I was able to 152 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: deal with the pain. I was like, hey, you know, 153 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: let's have a let's have an open relationship, you know, 154 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: let's try something different. And ultimately it was the openness 155 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: and separation that bring us closer together at the end 156 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 1: of the day. Yeah, do y'all think that, like when 157 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: people go through those type of adversities as a couple, 158 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,719 Speaker 1: do you feel like after everything works out, is it 159 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: that much more stronger or is it still like this 160 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: heavy band aid and you gotta do Because I'm very 161 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: curious to know, like how our relationships, how do they 162 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 1: work out after the tumultuous times? Is it still uncomfortable? 163 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: Because on paper, we look at it on TV and 164 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: we see everybody who we admire break up and go 165 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 1: through these things and come back together, or sometimes to 166 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: break up is behind the scenes, but sometimes they go 167 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: through things they get back together. Is it that much 168 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: stronger or is it it is stronger now, But it 169 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: takes time to get to that place. Um, definitely. It 170 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: took y'all talked about, you know, being a therapist right now. 171 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: We had to go and seek a therapist. We had 172 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 1: marriage counselors for six months, like four hours a week, 173 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: Like it was like going to school and and doing 174 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 1: your homework. You know what I should I tweeted something 175 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: the other day on Instagram and post it. I said, 176 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: I think that in the beginning of relationships, couples, when 177 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: they know they're gonna be serious, I think they should 178 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: see a therapist. That's what happened. Like we went to 179 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: a pre marital counseling right and we went to that 180 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: mart six It was pre right. But I'm seeing this 181 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 1: period relationship I'm talking about. I believe it was like 182 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: maybe three sessions and complete, like a book of life, 183 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: because they just kind of the it is their way 184 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: of It's like I think that the clergy have to 185 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: do that before they marry you. It's just it's a 186 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: matter of fact. But I think it's it's almost like 187 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: a formality. So what I believe is that and I 188 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: and I posted this, and I saw a lot of 189 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: people who obviously mostly women, who shared mine. You know, 190 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: my view, but I believe that. All right, if I 191 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: say I like you and you like me, you have 192 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: to understand that in the beginning, you're not meeting me, 193 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: You're meeting my representative. You're meeting the person who I 194 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: potentially can be. Right, I don't think it's a fake thing. 195 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: I'm faking, but I'm going to be my best self 196 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: for you because I'm trying to impress this woman who 197 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: I'm attracting with you, right, I think in the beginning, 198 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: we should be able to say, let's sit down with somebody. 199 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: This is gonna be serious. We're gonna see each other, 200 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,599 Speaker 1: We're gonna be serious. I want to be strictly with 201 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 1: you. You You want to be strictly No, no, no, I'm 202 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: saying we're not not not a month but you. But 203 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: I'm saying, when you're deciding that we're gonna be a couple, 204 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: how long is it for you? Guys? Oh my goodness, 205 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: I knew that he was the one for me from 206 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: the very beginning. Like it took him like three years. Okay, 207 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: I'll be your boyfriend. Like and he was in his thirties, 208 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: and I figured, like he got all of that little 209 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: you know, childhood, just having sex and everybody thinking how 210 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: did that make you feel? And you stay around? Was 211 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: you still doing your thing? Yeah? I said you were 212 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 1: married when you guys met? Is that true? I got 213 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: married when I was nineteen. Yeah, I got married very young. 214 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 1: But we were only together for like six months. So 215 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: damn what happened with the heck he wanted lunch money 216 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: and I wasn't ready to about that. Yeah, this is 217 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: what black was pop And I met Mary when she 218 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: turned one. Um after the fact, media take out your 219 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: it's like they are the biggest Ronnie and Shamari haters 220 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: out there, even before Real Housewives and some of the 221 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: stuff that put us on the platform that were on today. 222 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 1: They were throwing jabs like ever since. You think it's 223 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: somebody that worked there, somebody off over there back in 224 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 1: the day, somebody right, you didn't get him the autograph 225 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: and they was waiting in the rain. You know, I 226 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: thought about actually sing, but I guess, you know, over whatever. 227 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: They wasn't for the clover. But yeah, knew from day one, 228 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: she says, right, and how this happened? I want to 229 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: know where you all was at, how you knew, like, 230 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: how did this home meeting? Well, we met each other 231 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles in March ten, two thousand and one, 232 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles after Janet Jackson HiCon Awards. After the 233 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: par after they went to the awards, I went to 234 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: the after park, right, because you didn't get a ticket 235 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: to the awards. You know, he was at the Prime 236 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: you know and all that, So she was lit. She 237 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: was a man. Bob by outside, you know, trying to 238 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: figure out what's going on. We're making our way in. 239 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: That was okay, no, no, no, outside of the after party. Yeah, 240 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: it was deciding if they wanted to go in. It 241 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: wasn't like they was outside they could. Man, we got 242 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: two different stories away in the party, it was inside 243 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: the club. You're saying you were in the club. I 244 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: vividly remember. We remember to remember that episode, ga and okay, okay, 245 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: still remember. Yeah, I was holding onto the back of 246 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: the tina. What you were holding the tina was in 247 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: front of you. If you were holding the scena's hand 248 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: y'all were walking inside me and Bob was on the 249 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: outside getting ready to go in. Right, I see Shamari 250 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: I grabbed her hands, right, you just grab her hand. 251 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: I mean I grab but you know her hand. He 252 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: was inside the club. He grabbed my hand and I 253 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: just kept walking and I just let the hand go 254 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: right right right, don't touch you, right right right, just 255 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: leave me. Yes, I did, Yes, I remember that I 256 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: grabbed that hand. She looked back at me, gave me 257 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: a little winky wink smile and kept it moving. I 258 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: believe you believe inside the club, you probably was trying 259 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: to be you was trying to be mean to him, 260 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: but it just didn't work. Yeah. No, I didn't care. 261 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: I was doing the top. I wasn't checking from him 262 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: like I was always popping. Let's clear hi. And then 263 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: outside after the club, remember the two ways back in 264 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: the day, the contact baby, he was like, yo, can 265 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: I take you to lunch of something to my quick 266 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: quick quick right right? So the next day, you know, 267 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: we into lunch I at the hotel. I went to 268 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: lunch about That's why I woke up, like will I 269 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: see you again? I looked that back at it was 270 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: like hell, yeah, all right, so keep it rail, SMARRAI 271 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: did you grow up like looking at new Edition like 272 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: he's cute? No? I did not. I grew up looking 273 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: at the boys and ABC. Yes down my was my 274 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: man day. I love me the boys. No, was like 275 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: before my time, Like he was born two decades before me, 276 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: the sixties, and I was going. I met him when 277 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: she was twenty one. No, let's get that. All these 278 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: documentaries issues going on. I don't nobody need to escape me. 279 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: Ain't nothing in my you know what y'all talking about it. 280 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: He said, it's gonna be Escaping Rodney documentary if it 281 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: was anywhere before when she was what took you so long? Um? Okay? 282 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: So we met March tenth, two thousand one. I ended 283 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: up moving to Atlanta in November of two thousand one. Right, 284 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: living in Los Angeles for the second half of my life, 285 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: like from from Boston from um start to sixteen seventeen, 286 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: moved to l A. You know, felt like I hit 287 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: a glass ceiling. I need a little fresh start, you 288 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: know something, knowing different. Move to Atlanta in November, and 289 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: come on, Atlanta is the Black Mecca, right in a 290 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: single cat. I'm not settling down for at least the 291 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: first six months. And you knew I was in Atlanta already, 292 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: so you know I had something to do with it 293 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: right right, But hell yeah, but I was still pumping 294 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: the brakes. I've always been the kind of hat like 295 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: and I've been around people that will tell a woman 296 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: anything to get the drawings right. But I'm not gonna 297 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: tell you I love you. I'm not gonna tell you 298 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: nothing without really ultimately being honest, like and if you're 299 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: ready to give me the young man and less rock, 300 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: So moved to Atlanta. You know, she felt like, you know, 301 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: I'm the one every now and then she's throwing the 302 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: jab and I'm just fighting, like I'm checking the scream 303 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: and I know not yet. And fast forward about two years, 304 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: two and a half years something like that. She just 305 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: gave me the ultimatum, Look, man, you are the one 306 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: for me, and I can't continue to play house like 307 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: even though we were together, damn there all the time, 308 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 1: but she's doing her thing. I'm doing my thing. And 309 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 1: I just felt like, until I'm ready to commit, I'm 310 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: not gonna commit to you. I'm not gonna tell you. You 311 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: You know, it's all good when I know I'm rocking, 312 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: you know, I'm rolling over here. So you know, she 313 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 1: hit me one day and was like, look like, I'm 314 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: out of here because I can't continue to do this 315 00:17:56,200 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: play house thing when I know you soul so right. 316 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: She hit me right before she went to Germany on 317 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: the trip with Black Right. So I'm sitting I'm sitting 318 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 1: there like damn, you know, just reflecting on, um, everything 319 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: that we had gone through in the two and a 320 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: half years prior, and you know, the roller coaster ride 321 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: that I had been on. As far as the music 322 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 1: industry is concerned. You know, you're making paper. At one point, 323 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,479 Speaker 1: you're not making paper, You're trying to figure out how 324 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 1: to pay the bills. At times. You know, Shamari would 325 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: help me, you know with flights and different ships like that. 326 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: So I'm like, okay, But then I just had to 327 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: g flat man, and I felt like, um, you know, 328 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: for for being in this industry where people can get 329 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 1: caught up in the materialism of it all, like the 330 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: glamour you know, pulling up in the rolls Royson like 331 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 1: y'all call me or whatever. She was with me when 332 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,959 Speaker 1: I was in the eighty three things, and you know, 333 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 1: I needed some money. And then you know I always 334 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: knew like she was beautiful, she's intelligent, she's she's smart things. Yeah, 335 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,719 Speaker 1: she man, she has one of the most beautiful voices 336 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: that I've ever heard in my life, right, So, I 337 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: mean it's like that has to be rewarded. So, you know, 338 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: I called it like, we had a conversation she's in Germany, 339 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: and I don't know what I said. I was just like, so, 340 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,959 Speaker 1: are we together? And he was like, I mean, you know, 341 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: we together? And that's how I knew, okay, together right right, 342 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: I'm like, at least he said, yeah, you know, I 343 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: mean we together. That's the first step right there, because 344 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 1: before he wasn't even saying any of that. But you 345 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: were together all the time. Yeah, what was the breaking 346 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: point for your ultimatum? Like what made you just be like, 347 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: all right, listen, it's been to you Because we were 348 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 1: doing everything, like we were really lead together, like we 349 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: were going on trips, we were together every day like 350 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: it was like I was his woman, So why aren't 351 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: you committed to me? You know? So that was when 352 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: I was like, look, I can't keep doing this because 353 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: my heart is just getting so deeply involved with you 354 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: and he's always got the out. Yeah I said, we 355 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 1: was together right, right exactly, So I didn't, like, you know, 356 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: I value that so much the fact that, um, we 357 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: come from a time with relationships is about I like 358 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: you and you like me. You know that's not the 359 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: thing no more. It's like you said a little know 360 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: if you want to be when you go with me, 361 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: it was like, but it was just about like I 362 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: like you. That's it. I like you. Everything else is second. 363 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 1: Now it's like my bill is just dred a month. 364 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: If a man I can't, I don't got time for 365 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: what you're doing text It's like, no, but how are 366 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: you gonna get to know somebody? And I like the 367 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: era of I'm thirty six years old. So I grew 368 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 1: up in a time where it was like you would 369 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: hear girls say, oh he's cute. Now it's like they 370 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: don't even matter. He got it back I'm going. I mean, 371 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: like you meet a girl, you just say, I'm gonna 372 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: hear them all you wanna go be in l a 373 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: go yep, I'm going. What Back in our era, I 374 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: don't know You're not getting on the plane to come 375 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: see you go to meet you. Now it's just like 376 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 1: so it's cool to see people say for him to say, 377 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: I do't have money for a flight, and she got 378 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: me a flight. Yeah, that's real ship because no, but 379 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: but that's cool. I think that least the spirit like that. 380 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: I think it was American. I've been blessing and fortunate enough. 381 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: Never I've never had any relationships in my entire life 382 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: with type with people who I didn't feel like the 383 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 1: genuinely kid about. And that's a blessing because I see 384 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: it so many somethings I've had encountered many people who 385 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: intentions weren't pure, but I've never been a situation. I'm 386 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: fortunate enough to say I can't look back on any 387 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: of any relationship. And I haven't been in many relationships 388 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: in my life, but I can't look back on my 389 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: few relationships and say, oh, sure he was about my money. 390 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: This was about because she saw I was about to 391 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: blow up what she you know what I mean? And 392 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: I think that's that's rare. A lot of guys can't 393 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: say that in this era. Is that the first time 394 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: someone's ever done something like that for you? Ronnie like 395 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: brought you a flight and took care of you, Because 396 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: that means a lot to a guy. A lot of 397 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: times he like skin bro. They always get that to 398 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: think about it black like black, I mean you know 399 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 1: I can't find out. I've had situations where people are um, 400 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: I guess there trying to show you know what it is. 401 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: I don't care. Look, let me buy you this just 402 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 1: to let you know that it's not about just used 403 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: to set up who you are, Like what kind of 404 00:22:56,040 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 1: stuff is you're getting? I mean, little watch pool. Did 405 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: you get rid of all that stuff like this? When 406 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: was there around you when you had the eight three binds? No? Exactly. 407 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: Now let's talk about marriage. Okay, how did you guys 408 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: know that it was time to get married? Let's talk 409 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: with you, rego for you, what made you decide? Um, 410 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: it wasn't never. It wasn't a decision for me like that. 411 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: It wasn't like it was almost it was just a compromise. 412 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: And I felt like, to be honest, I felt like 413 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: I was at a low point in my life financially, 414 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: so I couldn't offer anything else. So I just felt 415 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: like that was my way of showing how much I 416 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 1: appreciate and loved her, even though I don't I didn't 417 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: believe it necessarily in marriage. But let me do this 418 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: for you to show you like I don't. I can't 419 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: give you anything right now, and I'm not in a 420 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: place where I was that we all in this industry 421 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: and this business go through those times, those low periods, 422 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: and that happened. So I just feel like the least 423 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: I can do is this. So it wasn't a beautiful 424 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: like I'm proposed, and I really you know, I was 425 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 1: against marriage. No, no, not all. It was like literally 426 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: the next day it was supposed to be just at 427 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 1: the house, just friends, end up being like a bunch 428 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 1: of family and friends. But it wasn't something that I 429 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: was like, you know, I never I never in my 430 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: life envisioned myself no, no, But it was a situation 431 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 1: where I believe when you love somebody and you really 432 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,959 Speaker 1: care about them, you compromise. And I think that that 433 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: compromise should be recognized. I think that a lot of 434 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 1: people may listen to that and say, oh, that's the 435 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 1: wrong reason to marry a person, and I can respect 436 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 1: your point of view, but I also believe that when 437 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 1: you care about somebody enough, you're gonna compromise to that. There, 438 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,719 Speaker 1: if you know something gonna make them happy, you do 439 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 1: it because it makes them happy to get married. And 440 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: I think that a lot of times. Um it's where 441 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: as women get old a lot of times. They're not 442 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: trying to say everybody's situation. The pressure is on by strangers, 443 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 1: you know, people you don't even know because of social media. 444 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: A stranger will try to make you feel like girl, 445 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 1: if you don't got no ring on your finger, that'sh 446 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: don't mean nothing. It's like you don't that you have 447 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: for yourself could have been Oh by this age, I 448 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: thought I would be married by now. And it's just 449 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 1: that it doesn't necessarily always have to be. I believe 450 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: that that sacrifice um counts for something. Though. I think 451 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: that that's like a lot of people may look at 452 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: it and be like, I don't want somebody just do 453 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: it just because they have to know. I think that 454 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: that was the level of love that I share in respect. 455 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: I have to say, I can't do anything for you 456 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: right now, I'm being sued by a hundred people. I 457 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,360 Speaker 1: got this going on. I got that at least, So 458 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: what I want to do to show you that I'll 459 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: compromise something that I may not necessarily want to do 460 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: because it will make you happy. And I thought that 461 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 1: that's a testament of love. And I think a lot 462 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 1: of people, if you look at it from that perspective. 463 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 1: You may agree, but obviously you know, people have their 464 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: own perspective and their own and that's just the truth 465 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 1: and the contract that Did you say that we need 466 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: a prenup? Nope, But like I said, I never doubt 467 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: but this, I would never worry about anything like that. 468 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: She never ever was about no money with me. She 469 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: never was about no, um, you gotta do this, you 470 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: gotta beat this. All differences were based upon the mistakes 471 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: and errors I made. It wasn't about my Our issues 472 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: are have nothing to do with her being a horrible 473 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: It's all about the decisions I made. Decisions. Yeah, but 474 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: just you know, being young and will and give money 475 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: and cheating and going crazy like that or not being 476 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: um including her and the plings that I should have 477 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,919 Speaker 1: been including her in difference between cheating and disrespectfully cheating. 478 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: So I think that what happens is what happens is, 479 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,719 Speaker 1: and it's and it's it's definitely bringing somebody to the 480 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 1: crab and you're rocking in the same day. That's disgusting. 481 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: That's that's no. But never I don't want to say 482 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: that I was ever on that level. I would never 483 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: fire room. I think I think it becomes it becomes 484 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: a cycle. I think the cycle begins with you did 485 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: something wrong, You're trying to correct this error. But then 486 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: as we deal with people, their energy and attitude towards 487 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: you is still paying you back for the wrong that 488 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: you did. So now when they give you this certain 489 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: negative energy, you feel like, all right, I'm gonna go 490 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: do this again. And now you keep doing it, and 491 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 1: now the energy doesn't change, and then your reaction to 492 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: their energy does not change. It takes for somebody to 493 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: either say I need to step back and separate myself 494 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 1: from this situation, or I need to figure out a 495 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 1: way to react to this in a way that's gonna 496 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: be productive. If I keep reacting to your bitterness and 497 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: your anger with my actions that made you bitter and 498 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: anger in the first place, is a never in the cycle. 499 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 1: So what you have to decide as a person, whether 500 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 1: you're gonna be with that person or not. What you 501 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: have to decide as a person is I'm not gonna 502 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 1: treat you how. I'm not gonna retaliate to you with 503 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: my actions. What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna respond 504 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: to you out of love, and I've decided that I'm 505 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: only gonna respond to everybody out of love. And that's 506 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: you know, and that's real because what happens is I 507 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: started realizing that if I if I want to be 508 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: right or if i'm because they are situation scenarios where 509 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: I know that I'm right, but I have to understand it. 510 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: Being right ain't always right. And sometimes you gotta say no, 511 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 1: matter what I say, you're angry. So let me step 512 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 1: back and figure out a way to get you un angry. 513 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: So now that you're not angry, we can have a 514 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: real conversation. Because when somebody's upset, Oh, I can't talk 515 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 1: when I'm upset. But that's the thing. Everybody wants to 516 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: talk when you're upset. When when we get into it, 517 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: like she wants to fix it right away, get heated, 518 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: and I'm like, yo, I just need a minute. He's 519 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: a scorpio. I may I just need a minute. But 520 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: the first day, but to room and she'll follow me 521 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: right now, don't go to bad man door and she's 522 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: knocking on the door, like breaking the window. But how 523 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: to argue effectively because I know when I'm in the 524 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: middle of an argument, I can't talk to you at 525 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 1: that time because I don't want to say any in 526 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: the same way one active listening all the time. I 527 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: understand that, but if there's a time that's one of 528 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,719 Speaker 1: the things that helped us even in our marriage counseling 529 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: and our marriage coaching, and we say this all the time, 530 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: is that active listening night before we understand understood how 531 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: to do that. It's okay, you're sitting waiting to fire back. 532 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: I'm not even hearing. What the hell all up? As 533 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,719 Speaker 1: soon as I find an opportunity to come with my 534 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: perspective about this argument, I'm coming right. But we learned 535 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: how to active listen to each other, which is when 536 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,719 Speaker 1: you're saying something, I have to repeat what it is 537 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: that you just said to me and then everything. Then 538 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna tell me what it is that I missed 539 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: out on it. Then I'm gonna repeat that. It was 540 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: so helpful for us in our relationship because now you 541 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: gotta come off of your perspective and actually sit there 542 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: and figure out where the other person that I'll say, 543 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: I'll say, are you following me? Is this making sense 544 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: to you? Because I can repeat it gonna break. I'm 545 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: not gonna lie because I'm gonna tell you why even 546 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: when I'm saying that right then, it made me cringe 547 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: because it made it would make me feel like you're 548 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: talking down to me, or you're talking to me like 549 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: a child. Do you follow me? Do you just below 550 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: the belt in an argument? Say? Can you repeat to 551 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: me what I just said? See, that's the way you 552 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: say this, because now when you say that, I don't 553 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: feel I feel like the way like I would have 554 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: felt like I was being talked to you like a child. Again, 555 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: But that's a difference. That's the difference. So now my 556 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: perspective is operated out of love. So if you're operating 557 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: out of love, even though that thing makes you feel 558 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: like you're talking like a child, which I would love 559 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: you would say when you say that in that way, 560 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: it makes me feel like you're talking to me like 561 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: a child. That's not what I would have said. But 562 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: I don't talk to me like no mother child your clothes. 563 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: But if a person says that to me, if a 564 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: person says that to me, I take an offense to 565 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: how you're speaking to me like that, then I'm gonna 566 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: have to correct it. Now. If I don't correct it, 567 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: if I continue to do that to you, and I 568 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: don't correct how you asked me. You specifically said, this 569 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: makes me uncomfortable. If I don't respond to that with love, 570 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: then now I'm being pettis. Now I can tell the 571 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: question cause me and lari'all got into it earlier over this. Okay, wait, wait, 572 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: what right? Just say we were discussing. This is really 573 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: for you. I love this. So if you found a 574 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: lipstick in your man's car and it's different because you 575 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,959 Speaker 1: guys are married, but he tells you, Okay, it's my 576 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: sister's or it's my mom's lipsticks, do you believe him 577 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: or not. I believe him, Thank you. That's why I 578 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: do believe him, because we built that trust over the years. 579 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: Like so I'm gonna believe him if it was, you know, 580 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: in a new situation. That's I'm saying, a new situationation 581 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: where you don't really know the person. I haven't built 582 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: that trush and that communication and all that, then I 583 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: don't know. I'm gonna say this. I can because I 584 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: don't have no problem excepting accountability. So we show a 585 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: nose about me. So there have been the situations where 586 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: I've been very truthful, but because I lied in the past, 587 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: because I did things in the past. It kind of 588 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: like eliminates. That's why I think forgiveness, truth forgiveness, honest 589 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: forgiveness is important because I've been accused of things that 590 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: I'm seriously didn't do right and there's no there's no way. 591 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: It's just so much. But I just think it's no 592 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: way getting ubber. Somebody was going on you was doing 593 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: using them old skins, Runnye gave you them olds from 594 00:32:46,960 --> 00:33:04,719 Speaker 1: the house in your belts, Like, no, but I just 595 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: think you already got yourself got a massage. No. But 596 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: I just think that when you do so much, it 597 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: is difficult to build that trust back, especially with somebody 598 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: not honest but how they feel. See, I'm a communicator, 599 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: so communicate. I enjoy it because I love to learn 600 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: and find out what can you know? I want to 601 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: be a better person at all levels and the aspects 602 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: of my life. But it's difficult because so many people 603 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: don't know how to communicate, especially people from our community. 604 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: So it's difficult when you want to communicate and you're 605 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: really trying to You're like, I don't have all the answers, 606 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: but this is how I feel. But if I'm telling 607 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: you that, you know, like even early on in relationships 608 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: when you say, you know the lipstick thing and then 609 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: the man says, yo, that's from myself stuff, and it's 610 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: really from my sister. But you're getting it, you know 611 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: you It just keeps coming up, you know, days later, 612 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: like y'all, I don't believe what the hell is going on. 613 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: It just makes you feel like I gotta coming out right. 614 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell y'all what happened, though, I'm gonna tell 615 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,760 Speaker 1: you all the whole sec and she ain't even explain 616 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: it right, all right. So the first time I've seen 617 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: I got in the car and seen a lipstick and 618 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, somebody got their little lipstick here, 619 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:30,959 Speaker 1: trying to know that it was Matt. But I say, 620 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 1: I say stuff like that, I don't just be like, 621 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: oh this bitch lipstick that I'm like, okay, somebody marketing 622 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,399 Speaker 1: a territory. So he's like, what what are you something? Oh, 623 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: now I gotta be my sisters whatever that I'll never 624 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,359 Speaker 1: sit over there, so I don't even know what's over there. Okay, cool, 625 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 1: skip that I ain't bringing up again nothing. So that 626 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: now a day past, two days, my my friend in 627 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 1: the car and are we talking and she says something 628 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 1: about lipstick. I was like, oh, it's probably something inside 629 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: of the door, like a joke, right, But that's what 630 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 1: I do, Like, I mean, I do that on show. 631 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: I do That's just me and you know my personality. 632 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:07,280 Speaker 1: I'm like that. So um he was like a condom 633 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,359 Speaker 1: you so that he goes, no, what do you mean? 634 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: He was like, no, I told you, like my ex girlfriend, 635 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: she probably just left of it, but film it was 636 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 1: just sister. But did tell me. I don't have to 637 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: tell you all that. All I did was ask her, 638 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,959 Speaker 1: how would you feel like? But this is what I'm saying. 639 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 1: I listened to you the first time. He was like, oh, 640 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,439 Speaker 1: it's probably He didn't say it is, but he said 641 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: probably my sister's So I ain't think nothing. Ever, I 642 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 1: don't really know you like that. This is new like 643 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,320 Speaker 1: so that's cool. You get what I'm saying. So that 644 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 1: now the next time you say that, now you're a liar. 645 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you why you're a liar. Because 646 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: if you would have been like, I don't know whose 647 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: it is, it's probably it could be anybody. I would 648 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,479 Speaker 1: have took that a little better than you. Specifically, saying, 649 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: now it's ex girlfriends broke. Who is it? What morning? 650 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 1: Maybe he was, maybe he was you never know, never 651 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,439 Speaker 1: days might be all Kelly got molested by you. I'm 652 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 1: like that assistant brothership. Yeah when he went specific the 653 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,800 Speaker 1: second time a brown, Yeah, I feel that. Do you 654 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 1: give what I'm saying? So that's why I said that, Like, 655 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: I wasn't about to just let that kind of slide 656 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,280 Speaker 1: and let that go. Now look at you, funny, because 657 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 1: like you're like a low key you, a little liar. 658 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: So now I gotta watch you if you lie about 659 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: maybe it's maybe everybody's boy, Maybe it's his Saturday nights. Okay, 660 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 1: Now let me ask you this. Since you guys were 661 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,720 Speaker 1: very open about your open relationship, what are the rules 662 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: that you guys said. I know you said fresh and 663 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: Murray you could only date other women. Yeah, yeah, it 664 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,879 Speaker 1: wasn't going down. I didn't want another man. I had, 665 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,439 Speaker 1: you know, the dick that I needed right here at home. 666 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: I'm joking. I got the tick that I needed right there. 667 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: The dick's not here. You know. We got together when 668 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 1: I was twenty one, So there was a lot of 669 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: things that I wanted to experience that I didn't experience. 670 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: And it was at a time where I was not 671 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 1: in a very good place, and I was like, Okay, 672 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 1: well let's go into an open relationship. And I know 673 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: you're not going to um do it unless I say 674 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 1: you're not gonna allow me to sleep with other women, 675 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: unless I say you can sleep with women yourself. Was 676 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 1: he cheating already? Were you cheating? No? Not no cheating, 677 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 1: No cheating. I mean it came out of the blue. Honestly. 678 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: We were actually working on our music UM around the time, 679 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 1: and it just kind of came out of nowhere, and 680 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 1: I know she was in a place, in a state 681 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: of brokenness. I remember this after the fact, like even 682 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: while we were working on our music UM, I was 683 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,359 Speaker 1: kind of laser focused, feeling like, Yo, finally we're gonna 684 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,400 Speaker 1: be able to do something that is different print you know, 685 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 1: there's that balance that the music industry needs and we 686 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,359 Speaker 1: can talk about love and relationship when now it's all 687 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,799 Speaker 1: about sex and drugs. Yeah, it was just a build up, right, 688 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 1: And she felt like I wasn't really he was listening 689 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 1: to me like I had opinions, and he was just like, no, 690 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna do it this way, and I'm like, we 691 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,800 Speaker 1: need to get a manager because we neither one of 692 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: us have time to manage our career. You don't have time, 693 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 1: and he just wasn't listening to me, and it just 694 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: I just kept feeling like I was just getting broken 695 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 1: down and broken down more so. I was in a 696 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: state up brokenness. And I started when I when you're 697 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: in a state like you start making self center choices 698 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 1: when you're in that state, and um, I wasn't really 699 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,919 Speaker 1: including my husband and the decisions that I was making, 700 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,840 Speaker 1: we weren't making them as one. And that was just 701 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: the way that I dealt with the pain at the time. 702 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: And it was actually that that separation and the openness 703 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: that brung us closer together. We had to go through 704 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 1: that in order to get where we are today. You know, this, 705 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 1: this was our journey. This was our path that we 706 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,800 Speaker 1: went through. And you know, marriage, no marriages are like 707 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,839 Speaker 1: everybody's gonna go through there. You guys are married right now. 708 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 1: I've never been, but like marriages like fingerprints, like nothing. 709 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 1: No marriage is exactly alike. Yes, yes, So like that 710 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,439 Speaker 1: was our journey, that was our path, and that path 711 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 1: bung us into purpose ultimately. Yeah, that's why because when 712 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: it started, you know, it was almost like I was 713 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:28,760 Speaker 1: going to be included to a certain yeah, probably like okay, 714 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,400 Speaker 1: it sounds real spicy at first, like yeah, if you 715 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 1: know you let me sleep with women, then you know 716 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: we might be able to have a little Kay, she's 717 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 1: going to without you? Right then I'm gonna go on 718 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 1: ahead and make my thing happen. And it was totally separate. 719 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 1: It just turned into this total like two separate, like 720 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 1: a totally separate relationship. Waits, did you guys ever do 721 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,839 Speaker 1: the threesome? No? We never did the family not even 722 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:03,879 Speaker 1: she went over there and fell and fell in love 723 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: to a certain I didn't fall in love. I knew 724 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 1: that I was never gonna leave you. Ron. You were 725 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 1: always mine, you were always my husband. I made the 726 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: vows with you down the road. Come on, man, don't 727 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: it felt like you guys felt like the marriage was 728 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,360 Speaker 1: almost gonna end though over that. Yeah, I mean we 729 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 1: sat at um the little bar in our town house, right. 730 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 1: You know, we had a real house. Don't talk about 731 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: no townhouse. It was the townhouse. It yeah, it was, 732 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:38,359 Speaker 1: you know, it was a single family home in the townhouse, right, 733 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 1: And y know, we actually right there word on word, 734 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,840 Speaker 1: you know, after computer trying to figure out how we 735 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 1: were going to separate everything, like I'm talking about divorce 736 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 1: was imminent, like she sorted to that point, just everything 737 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 1: like okay, we opened it up and for me, okay, 738 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,800 Speaker 1: as a man, open relationship okay. And I say this 739 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 1: all the time. You think when Eddie Murphy said in 740 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 1: his little comedy special, y'all same old salteam crackers. After 741 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 1: a certain amount of time, right, and they say, after 742 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 1: about seven years you start kind of getting the eggs 743 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,720 Speaker 1: to do a little something. And it was right around 744 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,840 Speaker 1: that same time, seven years in and so wife he 745 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 1: comes and she's like, yo, let's have the open thing. 746 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,800 Speaker 1: Maybe we can do it three something, you know, boom, 747 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 1: you can handle your business. And I'm thinking, as a 748 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 1: man like ship, okay, this might be good. Like so 749 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 1: she's over there, I'm over here, and ultimately, jealousy, you know, 750 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 1: and envy and all these different things beginning to creep in. 751 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 1: And you don't know that at the time, you just 752 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 1: thinking what you're dick. Ultimately, you know, like yeah, okay, 753 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I can get some different pussy. But at 754 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 1: the same time I can rock with my wife. But 755 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 1: you come home and wife he ain't there, and it's like, okay, ship, 756 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 1: Well what the hell is wife he doing? And I 757 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:56,840 Speaker 1: don't know what she was thinking. I'm sure at some 758 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,080 Speaker 1: some point it's the same thing. She's at home and 759 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 1: hubbies out, like, damn, what the hell has my husband doing? 760 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,840 Speaker 1: Who was he with? And that was the thing that 761 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 1: separated us. And she had an apartment, you know, I 762 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 1: had a place myself and you guys had your own 763 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 1: places on the side. Yeah, I mean it went down 764 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,880 Speaker 1: and it's even painful to talk about you. So what 765 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 1: happens to the other people that were in the relationship 766 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 1: that you have to be like like, I'm working it out. Yeah, 767 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,239 Speaker 1: can you still Are you allowed to still like speak? No, 768 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,399 Speaker 1: totally block cut off. You can't even talk to these 769 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,880 Speaker 1: people if you're working. When you started working. When we 770 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,319 Speaker 1: started working on our relationship, we had to cut all 771 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 1: of that off. That's the only way to do it. 772 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 1: Did anybody go crazy like started doing weird ship or 773 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 1: trying to break you all up? Yeah? Yes, I mean 774 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 1: kind of sort of, but you know not not no 775 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 1: psycho like type ship that wouldn't go away, Like to 776 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:57,759 Speaker 1: call your sister when you have three sims, right, who 777 00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 1: do you choose? Is it people that you know or 778 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,799 Speaker 1: is it like random people that y'all pick up together? Yeah, 779 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,840 Speaker 1: I thought, I mean back when I was, you know, 780 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,320 Speaker 1: throwing all that, we haven't done nothing. But it's like 781 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,840 Speaker 1: I think that it was always somebody a friend, somebody 782 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 1: you know you're talking about with his wife. What you 783 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,840 Speaker 1: do three songs with your wife? Used to you know, 784 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 1: somebody you got guys both knew and we're friends. Man, 785 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 1: you always let you always let her pick the girl. 786 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,279 Speaker 1: I think that's fair. That's the same. Yeah, Now you're 787 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,239 Speaker 1: not trying to make it seem like you're not maybe 788 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 1: like her. It'll be the type of thing just like 789 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 1: you was feeling shorty already and you was you know, 790 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 1: that's yeah, that's typical. I think, Yeah, so keep it. 791 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 1: I think there's been times where you know, you can 792 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,279 Speaker 1: bring a girl, but most times let the girl. Let's 793 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 1: let the girl pick the girl. She's more comfortable because 794 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna think, like, now you've already been plotting on 795 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,880 Speaker 1: this girl. Y'all been talking. This ain't nothing that you 796 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,359 Speaker 1: just came up with and pick that girl right there, 797 00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 1: you've been you got a relationship with her. So I 798 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 1: think you think sex gets better the more you know 799 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 1: each other, like the longer you're in a relationship, or 800 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 1: you think the beginning was better the longer. For sure, 801 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 1: you don't really know what each other likes to you know, 802 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 1: to be satisfied in the very beginning, and you just 803 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,319 Speaker 1: start learning. Like sometimes you even have to teach. Yeah, 804 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:24,439 Speaker 1: you had to teach, she said. I don't think that's something. 805 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 1: I think you should always teach somebody how you want 806 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:34,840 Speaker 1: to feel. That's just how to lick that clicker, you 807 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 1: go faster sometimes side I think open the curtains. Yeah, 808 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,879 Speaker 1: could be up and you don't know that you're going 809 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 1: down thinking you rock it. You are not every situation 810 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:56,920 Speaker 1: you should teach people how you want to be treated. 811 00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 1: And they're a wrong way to see dick. Ever, yes, yeah, 812 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:09,800 Speaker 1: that's the wrong way, like exactly, like what else besides 813 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:16,279 Speaker 1: teeth Sometimes people could just be extra rough with it 814 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,440 Speaker 1: or you know, like just whatever. You know, it's just 815 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,480 Speaker 1: all a preference ultimately, but there's a wrong way and 816 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 1: the right way to do everything. Like some people love 817 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 1: to be smacked in the room, like come on, you know, 818 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,360 Speaker 1: like how would you know that you're willing unless the 819 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 1: person says, look, you're not giving it to me hard enough, 820 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 1: like you gotta smack me in the damn face, and 821 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,319 Speaker 1: then just to see, like let me just smack her. 822 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:41,719 Speaker 1: See if she's like, oh no, no, no, I'm not 823 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 1: gonna do something like that. I think that I need 824 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,759 Speaker 1: to smack of person. And I'm questioning whether or not 825 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 1: I need to be in the room. Is But I 826 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,279 Speaker 1: think a fantasy plays a part and what you would 827 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,759 Speaker 1: experiment with it's all about what you like if you 828 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,840 Speaker 1: if you've been imagining this or you saw this in 829 00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 1: a point or something like that, and then that's kind 830 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,920 Speaker 1: of made you feel it were not so unrealistic though. 831 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 1: I feel like we watched potes I think, but that's 832 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,400 Speaker 1: started time. But that that's that's what we're making try something. 833 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,359 Speaker 1: Is that you imagining that, you know what I mean? 834 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 1: I think you imagine that you saw that and you 835 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,279 Speaker 1: got a reaction, your body reacted to you. Let me 836 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 1: try this. I think I might be into that, Like, 837 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,719 Speaker 1: what's the thing you tried that your partner was like, No, 838 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,040 Speaker 1: I think anybody always trying to you always tries to, 839 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:27,279 Speaker 1: you know, take it to the booty. And I don't 840 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 1: like it. No, no, no, it's no tongue or nothing 841 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,719 Speaker 1: in your But yeah, we might have talked in the 842 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 1: beginning we ain't tossed. No, what about if we ain't tossed? 843 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:46,440 Speaker 1: No salad dressing about that's gonna take a shower first, 844 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 1: you come upstairs, toss that salad. Like, look, there's no 845 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:56,480 Speaker 1: way you might need to take a ship before I talk. 846 00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,200 Speaker 1: That's a terrible time to take a ship. Ye, take 847 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 1: because then you have the residue. Yeah, y'all just made 848 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:10,440 Speaker 1: it so coming out, that's all I'm saying that. It's 849 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 1: also sound like what is this chocolatepecking it in the booty? 850 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,959 Speaker 1: Don't want nothing going up? I want it only coming 851 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,759 Speaker 1: out to that because like I do want that ship, 852 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 1: you know that? Yeah? Come on? She with like my guy, Yeah, 853 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,400 Speaker 1: you can't just go around just doing that ship to 854 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,719 Speaker 1: have you back right right? She likes spit dripping out 855 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:44,719 Speaker 1: her ass like she likes to be like, don't what Yeah, 856 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:54,719 Speaker 1: I mean if you have to like my tho, he's 857 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 1: used to know he's beyond you. What about masturbating together? 858 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, she like I played with a clip before? 859 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,920 Speaker 1: Why you was hitting it? Yeah? Yeah, no, doubt that's 860 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,439 Speaker 1: like masturbation, right, yeah, hardly, I mean because he's still 861 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,440 Speaker 1: hitting it. It was. I mean, I'm masturbated without you know. 862 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,520 Speaker 1: But but what about her there? You wouldn't ever masturbate 863 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:24,080 Speaker 1: in front of her, that's just you know, let me sexy. 864 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,239 Speaker 1: But like but like, but like he said, every relationship 865 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:31,080 Speaker 1: is his own fingerprint. Yeah, fer prints on it. Yeah, 866 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,720 Speaker 1: but faith time about a faith time tomorrow. You wouldn't 867 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,319 Speaker 1: like a mass in front of you? Yeah, I mean 868 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 1: I would like it. Okay, damn you should try it 869 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:50,239 Speaker 1: when we get back to the the race. Who's going 870 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:55,440 Speaker 1: to do it? Right? Right? What about you? Rico masturbation? 871 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,800 Speaker 1: It's like, look said, I'm s I'm not I'm not 872 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,560 Speaker 1: you on any of it. I'm not be on it. 873 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 1: I think I think it's all. Have a good time, 874 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,120 Speaker 1: enjoy it. I've done it before, you know, enjoy you 875 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,279 Speaker 1: have a good time, like experiment. That's how you keep 876 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,640 Speaker 1: things fresh. On alone, we make a mistake of keeping 877 00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,160 Speaker 1: you know, going through these you gotta reinvent your relationships. 878 00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,520 Speaker 1: You were like wow, I never like the last time 879 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,880 Speaker 1: you were like wow, this is different. I don't know, 880 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,759 Speaker 1: well for me, the last time it's been a little 881 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 1: challenging for us because we have seventeen month olds, right, 882 00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 1: so right, Yeah, So we took a trip to Chicago 883 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,239 Speaker 1: to perform. We finally released our first single, Love Comes 884 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 1: Through and Shamari Step mom Um. We did a charity 885 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,919 Speaker 1: thing out there, and so it was a little trip 886 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,920 Speaker 1: away from the boys for a couple of days. So 887 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:51,800 Speaker 1: that was good money, just being in the hotel, nothing 888 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,439 Speaker 1: to worry about. We performed our song, had a little 889 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,440 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes set where you know, we did eight Old 890 00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,279 Speaker 1: Wade and Poison, a couple other little things and did 891 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:04,279 Speaker 1: two of our new joints and after that that night 892 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:09,400 Speaker 1: it just was like, you know, kind of like magical kindling, 893 00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:13,080 Speaker 1: you know, especially since you shipped that moment together. Can 894 00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,800 Speaker 1: you ship that performance? So it's like it's almost like 895 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 1: a reward for it's almost extra insect. Night was a 896 00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,160 Speaker 1: great night. Yeah, it was what do y'all get your 897 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,560 Speaker 1: new tricks from? So like say, you're just like, let 898 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:28,480 Speaker 1: me try this like new thing, like where you pull 899 00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:33,560 Speaker 1: it out from where you pull it out because you know, 900 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:39,600 Speaker 1: our boys sleep in the bed with us. Sorry, I'm 901 00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,480 Speaker 1: sorry about that. Even if they end the damn cribs 902 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,160 Speaker 1: for some reason like you, oh, yeah, we got him 903 00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:49,719 Speaker 1: in the crib as you know, you boy, you pull 904 00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,439 Speaker 1: your joints down like you're getting it ready, and yeah, 905 00:50:56,480 --> 00:51:05,200 Speaker 1: what are you doing to our mom? We got to 906 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,640 Speaker 1: the point where okay, like they just seem like they 907 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,600 Speaker 1: feel more comfortable of course now in the bed than 908 00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,480 Speaker 1: they do in their cribs. So okay, they're in the bed, 909 00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,839 Speaker 1: and then we gotta be mindful because you know, now 910 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,319 Speaker 1: they get up and walk around up and walk off 911 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,080 Speaker 1: the damn bad or what have you. But you know, 912 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,200 Speaker 1: a couple of times we had to get some squeakers 913 00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:32,319 Speaker 1: in Chase that's right next to the hurry like they're 914 00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:41,160 Speaker 1: looking at me. I think he's looking at like, yeah, 915 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:49,280 Speaker 1: she can't get it off, like in that capacity about 916 00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:53,120 Speaker 1: them possibly waking up my daughter. Little sir, if I 917 00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:58,840 Speaker 1: hear a voice, you can't. If I hear a voice, 918 00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:00,919 Speaker 1: I mean, if I hear that voices, then of course 919 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:09,480 Speaker 1: we're there. It's just not the same. How do you 920 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,960 Speaker 1: think this show has been for you guys, Real Housewives 921 00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,439 Speaker 1: of Atlanta When you look at it and you see 922 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,920 Speaker 1: it and you're like, like, sometimes isn't like that? Or 923 00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,360 Speaker 1: do you feel like, okay, that represents me. Well, you 924 00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,719 Speaker 1: know you they edited you know, like we're not executive 925 00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,320 Speaker 1: producers of the show, so like they're editing things and 926 00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,520 Speaker 1: we're like, why didn't they put this in there? She 927 00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,120 Speaker 1: was a facial reaction that somebody made. There was an 928 00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:36,080 Speaker 1: expression towards something else, and it was just like, yeah, 929 00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,520 Speaker 1: it's just like all piece together sometimes and so it's 930 00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,480 Speaker 1: takes some some things are taken out of content, like 931 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,239 Speaker 1: you and Marlow are definitely not cool with each other 932 00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,719 Speaker 1: right now at this point. No, because she was coming 933 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,000 Speaker 1: after me the whole season it started. Why do you 934 00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:53,000 Speaker 1: think that is? She's not a wife, she's not a mother. 935 00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:55,880 Speaker 1: She you know, she doesn't have the things that I have. 936 00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,680 Speaker 1: So she just looked at me like I was a target. 937 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,719 Speaker 1: Like it could be jealousy, who knows, But because I 938 00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,600 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know much about these shows. So 939 00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:06,640 Speaker 1: what is it like we're on this show and we 940 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,200 Speaker 1: just hang out with people that we don't like. Did 941 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,239 Speaker 1: you know Marlo before? No? I didn't know Marlo. So 942 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,360 Speaker 1: that's what I don't understand. How the Candy and Me 943 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,640 Speaker 1: and Porscha went to elementary middle school. They just put 944 00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,840 Speaker 1: them they basically just gonna put you together with people, 945 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,880 Speaker 1: so maio some people. Yeah, So if she's trying to 946 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,200 Speaker 1: get in a situation, I'm not sure about her, but 947 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,319 Speaker 1: like she might be in a situation where she wants 948 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 1: to be a main cast member. So what she's gonna do, 949 00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,160 Speaker 1: She's gonna come out of the main cast member. So 950 00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,680 Speaker 1: that gives him more light. So now since she's the 951 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,480 Speaker 1: newest cast. I was on Loving Hip Hopply I was 952 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:46,480 Speaker 1: on Loving was like fromself, that's all it is. You know, 953 00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:50,560 Speaker 1: everybody's trying to secure their spots, so that but you 954 00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:52,799 Speaker 1: it's not that much securing in the world when you've 955 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,120 Speaker 1: been on the Housewives for six seasons and you don't 956 00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:59,160 Speaker 1: have a peach and I come on first time and 957 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:05,520 Speaker 1: have a you know, the main cast, you like there 958 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,840 Speaker 1: doing some ship. So like that's another reason why I 959 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,000 Speaker 1: think she's just coming out. She was already successful as 960 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,480 Speaker 1: a person. Ye already was doing my thing before, like 961 00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,359 Speaker 1: I even came on the house If I'm not gonna 962 00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,719 Speaker 1: lie back and forth, it's so funny because she'd be 963 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:22,080 Speaker 1: going off. She's like, listen, friends of the show. I'm like, damn, 964 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,480 Speaker 1: it was funny. Yes, we had not Ronnie, do you 965 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,480 Speaker 1: get upset when you see that? And you're like, if 966 00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,719 Speaker 1: y'all don't stop with my wife, not at all, Like 967 00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:37,320 Speaker 1: for me when we agreed to jump into that world, 968 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,440 Speaker 1: that's what comes with it. Ultimately, if you're not a fighter, 969 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,440 Speaker 1: if you're not jumping in, then you're gonna be the 970 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:48,520 Speaker 1: one that they're labeling as boring. Like I know my 971 00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,440 Speaker 1: wife is not rocking like that. So every now and 972 00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:55,439 Speaker 1: then it's like, yo, what happened? Okay, cool, you made 973 00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:59,160 Speaker 1: that thing right. I was proud of Shimari ultimately when 974 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,560 Speaker 1: she let Alo know what the fl was going on, like, 975 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:06,319 Speaker 1: don't sit back, you know, like your mama didn't raise 976 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:10,560 Speaker 1: you that way. It's not like we're confrontational people, but 977 00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:14,399 Speaker 1: I know one thing. When Samari feels disrespected, she turns 978 00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:18,759 Speaker 1: into a different beast. And Mollo crossed that line and 979 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:22,279 Speaker 1: she had to get that thing on us. So we 980 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,960 Speaker 1: just feel like, um, it's a platform, it's um, it's 981 00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:29,960 Speaker 1: eyeballs right out and feel like yeah, we feel like 982 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,000 Speaker 1: it's it's the storm, you know, it's the monkes, it's 983 00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,480 Speaker 1: it's the trenches, but it's it's the darkness, you know, 984 00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,560 Speaker 1: And my grandmother would always say it's darkness before the dawn. 985 00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:41,960 Speaker 1: So we're going through some ship right now with all 986 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:45,439 Speaker 1: the comments and people saying, well, you know, Ronnie, why 987 00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,920 Speaker 1: did you accept doing that? Like we loved you from 988 00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,000 Speaker 1: new edition, like you need to get off the show, 989 00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:55,920 Speaker 1: and they're saying, but we feel like it's leading us 990 00:55:56,080 --> 00:56:01,120 Speaker 1: to allow us um to speak on our purpose ultimately, 991 00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:04,400 Speaker 1: and that's being marriage ambassadors, and a lot of people 992 00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:08,960 Speaker 1: are talking about being truthful, like we're being transparent. Like 993 00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,920 Speaker 1: ship stinks, like you know, anybody's acting like you know 994 00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,120 Speaker 1: it's a perfect world and it's not. We're not perfect, 995 00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:21,960 Speaker 1: but ultimately we're sharing because we care. We represent love 996 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:25,560 Speaker 1: and compassion and forgiveness. That's what we represent. And some talent, 997 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:30,040 Speaker 1: and what about you, Rico, would you ever consider doing something? 998 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,480 Speaker 1: Why not? Because we've seen you on the artist side 999 00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,320 Speaker 1: of things. But I wouldn't. I just don't feel comfortable 1000 00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,640 Speaker 1: put my personal situation out there. I don't know somebody 1001 00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:41,759 Speaker 1: else who does. But I will say this and this 1002 00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:46,279 Speaker 1: is not I look at running devotes a legend, right, 1003 00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:54,640 Speaker 1: So so when you did say your fans feel that way, 1004 00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:56,560 Speaker 1: I didn't know you was on the show because I 1005 00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:00,200 Speaker 1: don't watch, but but I will say this, and it 1006 00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:01,920 Speaker 1: should be being honest, cause I'm a fan. I'm a 1007 00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,520 Speaker 1: true fan. Is that you do feel like I don't 1008 00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,080 Speaker 1: want to see that. I'm from the era of if 1009 00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:08,880 Speaker 1: I don't even want to know, I don't want to 1010 00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,399 Speaker 1: know if you're on the stage, you know what I mean. 1011 00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:12,440 Speaker 1: But we're in a different era. We're in a new 1012 00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,960 Speaker 1: time where people want to know the backstory. So I 1013 00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,760 Speaker 1: respect that, but I do know that I'm that type 1014 00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:19,960 Speaker 1: of fan. I'm the type of fan of like to 1015 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,640 Speaker 1: see that hip hop. No, but I don't. I wasn't 1016 00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,840 Speaker 1: loving hip hop, but I was. I was in loving 1017 00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:30,120 Speaker 1: hip hop talking doing straight music. I'm not trying to 1018 00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:34,040 Speaker 1: say he has to be I never saw. I don't 1019 00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:35,640 Speaker 1: know who anything about what he does in there. But 1020 00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,280 Speaker 1: I'm just saying like I'm a different type of fan, 1021 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,720 Speaker 1: so I can't understand the new type of fan. You 1022 00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,240 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So if you asked me for 1023 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:46,640 Speaker 1: my personal how I personally view I personally view New 1024 00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:50,520 Speaker 1: Addition as a deity, viewed them as like gods of music. 1025 00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:54,160 Speaker 1: So when I go and see when when when you know, 1026 00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:56,320 Speaker 1: let's not even go way back. I remember going to 1027 00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:00,200 Speaker 1: any Heartbreak tour and and and when they had he's 1028 00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,480 Speaker 1: sweating and uh seven or two opening up, and you know, 1029 00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,960 Speaker 1: just being there and under experiencing one of my first concerts. 1030 00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:10,800 Speaker 1: And I love that so too. I'm from an error away. 1031 00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:12,720 Speaker 1: I didn't want to know the personal ship. Yeah, I 1032 00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:14,560 Speaker 1: just wanted you to be the star and on TV. 1033 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:16,720 Speaker 1: But I do know that things have changed and if 1034 00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,160 Speaker 1: you want to exist in today's climate, we can't exist 1035 00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:23,120 Speaker 1: as we were back in the day. So I'm from 1036 00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,400 Speaker 1: that same I can tell on the show, I'd be like, Ronnie, 1037 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:29,160 Speaker 1: don't want to talk about it, and it's wild because 1038 00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,919 Speaker 1: you know, you sweep the dirty laundry under the rug, 1039 00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,560 Speaker 1: you keep that in the closet, right, And I think 1040 00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,040 Speaker 1: that's one of the things that led to the success 1041 00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,120 Speaker 1: of the New Edition stories, because we really didn't let 1042 00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:45,920 Speaker 1: people in on that world. So when it came, it's like, y'all, okay, 1043 00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:52,240 Speaker 1: probably wait to see what the hell these cast the 1044 00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,280 Speaker 1: bug that's love. She picked the bugger out. Now you 1045 00:58:55,360 --> 00:59:08,160 Speaker 1: gotta eat that. I've been looking at I've been trying 1046 00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,120 Speaker 1: to think of the perfect time and just get it out. 1047 00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:11,880 Speaker 1: But you know what, I'm like, it's no, no perfect 1048 00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:21,000 Speaker 1: remember when Bobby dug But like I said this, like 1049 00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:24,000 Speaker 1: I said, I do understand we have to be mature 1050 00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,520 Speaker 1: enough to have our perspective, but we also have to 1051 00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:30,600 Speaker 1: understand that things change. We can't expect everybody to move 1052 00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,280 Speaker 1: the way we envisioned and moving as a fan because 1053 00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:35,320 Speaker 1: as a fan, it's reality is that come into play 1054 00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,120 Speaker 1: and you do have to take your career to the 1055 00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:40,760 Speaker 1: next level. But I don't. I don't like. I don't 1056 00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,600 Speaker 1: like to see black women fighting each other. It's about nothing, 1057 00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:45,240 Speaker 1: especially when you don't have to. That's why I always 1058 00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,480 Speaker 1: feel like, well you don't know us. If you don't like, 1059 00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:49,080 Speaker 1: I want you to stop hanging around. You know. So 1060 00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,000 Speaker 1: those shows kind of confused me a lot because it's 1061 00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,200 Speaker 1: like they put you all together like the people who 1062 00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:57,680 Speaker 1: are successful, and I'm right there, I'm right there with you. 1063 00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:01,280 Speaker 1: You know. One of us Mari's favorite shows, not back 1064 01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,120 Speaker 1: in the day, but you know a few years back, 1065 01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:06,200 Speaker 1: was The Bad Girls Club, right, And I'm like, yo, 1066 01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,560 Speaker 1: why are you watching this Bad Girls Club? Right? So 1067 01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:13,120 Speaker 1: one day on that one day, so one day I'm like, okay, 1068 01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:14,920 Speaker 1: well let me just sit down. You know, we we 1069 01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:17,640 Speaker 1: just lounged them into that. I'm just checking it out, 1070 01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,240 Speaker 1: like okay, cool, okay yo, hold on, hold on, wait, 1071 01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:29,400 Speaker 1: turn that in. Let it be a marathon. You'd everything 1072 01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,960 Speaker 1: that happens. I showed one episode of The Kardashians and 1073 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:34,840 Speaker 1: it was when Kim lost a ring in the water. 1074 01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:39,600 Speaker 1: That was the only episode of it. So yeah, dropped 1075 01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,360 Speaker 1: in the water. And I've only watched the Love and 1076 01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:46,360 Speaker 1: Hip Hop that I've been on. But but but anytime 1077 01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,080 Speaker 1: they asked me to be on it, I always tell them, 1078 01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,320 Speaker 1: if it's about music, we can talk about it. So 1079 01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:53,840 Speaker 1: I do a music conference every year do We Love 1080 01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:57,040 Speaker 1: Music Conference, and it's developed songwriters and producers and artists. 1081 01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,360 Speaker 1: And this year we're having it July twelve or thirteen 1082 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:04,160 Speaker 1: in Milwaukee Conscion. And what's cool about it is they 1083 01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:05,760 Speaker 1: asked me to be on Love and Hip Hop Miami 1084 01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,040 Speaker 1: this year and I told him I'll be on it, 1085 01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,480 Speaker 1: but it has to be us during the Wheel of 1086 01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:12,960 Speaker 1: Music conference, and I put my logo on the back 1087 01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,720 Speaker 1: and it's promoting the conference, and it was actually all 1088 01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:19,440 Speaker 1: me and like four females including Trina Um, dre Zy, 1089 01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:23,400 Speaker 1: you know, Ms Mulatto and Um just female rappers up there, 1090 01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:25,600 Speaker 1: just kind of having a discussion. So I used it 1091 01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:28,480 Speaker 1: as a platform to promote my brand. So I'm not 1092 01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:31,800 Speaker 1: totally against appearing on them and using the platform because 1093 01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,160 Speaker 1: I've been on the early love and Hip hops with 1094 01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:36,120 Speaker 1: Olivia and you know a few people, but it was 1095 01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:41,240 Speaker 1: always Marie. It was always them discussing music and trying 1096 01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:43,320 Speaker 1: to get my point of view and perspective as far 1097 01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,640 Speaker 1: as their career is concerned. And you actually have an 1098 01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:49,360 Speaker 1: album coming out, so so use it as a vehicle 1099 01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,120 Speaker 1: they show. That's the first episode they showed us in 1100 01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:55,560 Speaker 1: the studio thing Love Comes Through by Me and Mari 1101 01:01:56,000 --> 01:02:01,080 Speaker 1: available on all platforms right now. Platforms also, So I 1102 01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:05,600 Speaker 1: got album right now called even King Stunt Go I mean, 1103 01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:07,680 Speaker 1: and and for us, that's what it is. We felt 1104 01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:11,000 Speaker 1: like okay with Marriage Ambassadors not to say that again. 1105 01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,520 Speaker 1: You see, you're hat married for Life. Married for Life 1106 01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:16,560 Speaker 1: has had his story for life. We're doing Married for 1107 01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,480 Speaker 1: Life walk every single year. This is the third annual 1108 01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:23,200 Speaker 1: Married for Life Walk coming up April seven in Atlanta, Georgia, 1109 01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:25,640 Speaker 1: and we have like five hundred couples and and it's 1110 01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:29,760 Speaker 1: they we walked together who'll probably be way more than that. 1111 01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:31,960 Speaker 1: You gotta do one in New York. So it could 1112 01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:35,560 Speaker 1: be Juices for Life and Mary for Like that makes sense, Yeah, 1113 01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:41,560 Speaker 1: because juice, Yeah, the juice bar right after that Married 1114 01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:45,400 Speaker 1: for Life. Walk Hear what I'm saying, after that two miles, 1115 01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:49,080 Speaker 1: they're gonna need something to let me. Oh my god, 1116 01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:58,320 Speaker 1: how do we increase the amount of eyeballs that are 1117 01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,600 Speaker 1: on us so that we can speak to family and 1118 01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:04,600 Speaker 1: speak to community and all these different things. And if 1119 01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:06,440 Speaker 1: we got to walk through the mud to a certain 1120 01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:09,600 Speaker 1: extent until we can get to that position transparent so 1121 01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:12,640 Speaker 1: that people can relate to the challenges that we've gone 1122 01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:15,280 Speaker 1: through and know that you can win that faith fight 1123 01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:18,960 Speaker 1: and be happier and stronger and love after you go 1124 01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,480 Speaker 1: through those challenges. Then we're gonna be as transparent as 1125 01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:24,520 Speaker 1: possible because that helps. As Mary couples, you'll ever have 1126 01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,040 Speaker 1: like and for YouTube we go married, do you ever 1127 01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,080 Speaker 1: have like a dry period? Because I always hear people 1128 01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:31,800 Speaker 1: talking about we haven't had sex and months and it's 1129 01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:35,680 Speaker 1: done it And like, what's the longest dry period that 1130 01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:40,160 Speaker 1: you've ever had? Oh? My god, probably about what maybe 1131 01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:43,200 Speaker 1: about four or five months? It was longer than that. 1132 01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:51,240 Speaker 1: Through our stuff at least eight nine months. And do 1133 01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,360 Speaker 1: you remember the first time y'all had sex again? After that? 1134 01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:57,280 Speaker 1: I don't remember specific because it has to be like 1135 01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:00,320 Speaker 1: monumental because you know when that happens, because my friends 1136 01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,840 Speaker 1: had a mary complaint all the time. They'd be like, 1137 01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:07,960 Speaker 1: we never have sex, and sometimes he sleeps on the couch. Right, honestly, 1138 01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:12,720 Speaker 1: No that happened. What's that? Excuse me? She said? Sometimes, Uh, 1139 01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:14,800 Speaker 1: the husband would sleep on the couch. Yeah, but not 1140 01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:18,160 Speaker 1: even sleep on the couch. It's just because I'm watching 1141 01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:22,360 Speaker 1: the ESPN and I fall asleep. You're watching port on 1142 01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:31,720 Speaker 1: the comply. I don't like the mad and sleeping on 1143 01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:34,360 Speaker 1: the couch that's happened. I mean, I can probably count 1144 01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:37,720 Speaker 1: on one hand the times that I went downstairs feeling like, 1145 01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:39,840 Speaker 1: you know, I just don't want to talk about it 1146 01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:43,080 Speaker 1: right now, and again I'm watching TV or something. Then 1147 01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,040 Speaker 1: I end up falling to sleep on the couch. It's 1148 01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,040 Speaker 1: not like y'all, I'm just going to sleep on the 1149 01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:50,480 Speaker 1: couch tonight, you know. Yeah. All right, Well, look they're 1150 01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:54,000 Speaker 1: telling me you scuts haven't eating dinner. But I do 1151 01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:56,320 Speaker 1: appreciate you all. This was very interesting because you know, 1152 01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,240 Speaker 1: Laura Elena have not been married. So I love to 1153 01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:02,960 Speaker 1: hear the perspect America because it is a challenging thing, 1154 01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:05,520 Speaker 1: you know, clearly for a lot of people. But I 1155 01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:07,720 Speaker 1: love to see that you guys have gone through your challenges, 1156 01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,800 Speaker 1: come through on the other side. So in love, love 1157 01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:13,000 Speaker 1: each other. They got an album coming out together when 1158 01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:16,880 Speaker 1: they have ultimate blessing on our anniversary? Are how long 1159 01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:22,360 Speaker 1: we've been married? Thirteen years? So on our thirteenth anniversary, 1160 01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:27,000 Speaker 1: we will release the album. Yes, March ten, two thousand nineteen. Yes, yes, 1161 01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:31,120 Speaker 1: it's it's it's exciting times, exciting times for us. Is 1162 01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:37,280 Speaker 1: it finished? Nope, I've never finished working on music. We 1163 01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:41,040 Speaker 1: feel like we're gonna do maybe two more joints. But um, 1164 01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:48,320 Speaker 1: since two thousand, thirteen thirteen we started working on music, 1165 01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:54,160 Speaker 1: so well, like a few months and crazy, you know, 1166 01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:56,280 Speaker 1: all of them ain sick like out of the fifty, 1167 01:05:56,400 --> 01:06:00,160 Speaker 1: i'd probably say thirty of them joints like ready can 1168 01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:03,440 Speaker 1: lists even still to this day. So it's a process. 1169 01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:07,640 Speaker 1: It's so we got albums out right now, even King 1170 01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:11,720 Speaker 1: Star available right now, even get that, go get that, 1171 01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:15,600 Speaker 1: and um, what can we expect from you? Um, it's 1172 01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:18,240 Speaker 1: a lot going on. You know. Um, I just executive 1173 01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:22,040 Speaker 1: produced Big Crits project. Um, me and myself and t I. 1174 01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:24,600 Speaker 1: We we've developed a television show that we're working on, 1175 01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:27,880 Speaker 1: and we went through the final stages of writing the 1176 01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:29,680 Speaker 1: script and putting the script together. We got a few 1177 01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:34,200 Speaker 1: few people, few networks that's trying to get Yeah, okay, So, um, 1178 01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:36,800 Speaker 1: it was something we developed a few years ago. But 1179 01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:39,120 Speaker 1: we kind of like Tip is just a real stand 1180 01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,520 Speaker 1: up guy because I wrote this concept a few years 1181 01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:43,880 Speaker 1: ago and I gave it to him, and um, some 1182 01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:46,240 Speaker 1: people run off with your idea for like three or 1183 01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:47,960 Speaker 1: four years later. Hear me, but say, you remember that 1184 01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:51,000 Speaker 1: concept you gave me. I got like five networks, So 1185 01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:54,080 Speaker 1: I'm like what and he you know, we've been going 1186 01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:55,720 Speaker 1: back and forth with the script and we've been doing 1187 01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:57,280 Speaker 1: a lot of cool things with that as far as 1188 01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:58,800 Speaker 1: that concerned. So we've been having a lot of fun. 1189 01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:00,840 Speaker 1: I've been working a lot of different artists, you know. 1190 01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:05,200 Speaker 1: I'm just developing and doing Vico Love Presents, um where 1191 01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:07,640 Speaker 1: I'm just kind of developing new acts and branding new artists. 1192 01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:12,240 Speaker 1: But also in Miami left that's got to happen. Also, 1193 01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:15,400 Speaker 1: I wanted people understand, um, it's a story to be 1194 01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:17,560 Speaker 1: told about people in this game who are able to 1195 01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:20,439 Speaker 1: weather storms. And I went to a very tough time 1196 01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:23,479 Speaker 1: past few years, being sued by so many different people 1197 01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:26,240 Speaker 1: and being wrongly accused of business dealings and things like that, 1198 01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:29,480 Speaker 1: and actually losing lawsuits and a lot of times that 1199 01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:31,520 Speaker 1: can be career ending and that could be like almost 1200 01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:33,880 Speaker 1: life ending tragedies. And I was able to overcome all 1201 01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:37,120 Speaker 1: those things and bounce back and get my everything back right, 1202 01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:40,960 Speaker 1: and without even people even knowing that's the that's the 1203 01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:47,240 Speaker 1: not even sometimes characters, it's true character be able to 1204 01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:49,520 Speaker 1: bounce back. But it's a blessing when you were able 1205 01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:53,040 Speaker 1: to go through it in private, because sometimes the media 1206 01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:55,040 Speaker 1: will get ahold and find out you being sued, to 1207 01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,320 Speaker 1: find out this company had went under fund, out this 1208 01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:00,080 Speaker 1: to happened, and this you know, so um to be 1209 01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:01,560 Speaker 1: able to go through those things and come through it 1210 01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:04,160 Speaker 1: on the other side, I don't want to say unscathed, 1211 01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:06,920 Speaker 1: but I know it was just a difficult period for me, 1212 01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:09,480 Speaker 1: And that's why this project missed so much. Just release 1213 01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:11,520 Speaker 1: it for the people, because I never as telling Angel 1214 01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:13,840 Speaker 1: I was never going to do another project, but be 1215 01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:15,680 Speaker 1: able to do it and go through so much and 1216 01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:17,719 Speaker 1: come back on the other side. I'm very much inspired 1217 01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:21,960 Speaker 1: by you all because I never ever believed in marriage. 1218 01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:23,760 Speaker 1: I never believe in it. I never believe that they 1219 01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:26,160 Speaker 1: could work. I never believe that. Um it was. I 1220 01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:27,920 Speaker 1: just never was a fan of it because I never 1221 01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:31,479 Speaker 1: had examples around me on successful marriages. So to see 1222 01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:35,720 Speaker 1: black love is inspiring, and um I'm praying that you 1223 01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:39,599 Speaker 1: guys continue to weather all storms. And I'm just happy 1224 01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:41,000 Speaker 1: to be in the presence of people who I can 1225 01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:44,519 Speaker 1: learn something from because that's what always went through affect 1226 01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:47,560 Speaker 1: your marriage. Um it was very very It's one of 1227 01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:49,639 Speaker 1: those things where you know, I don't even really want 1228 01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:51,120 Speaker 1: to even get into it, but it's just one of 1229 01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:54,040 Speaker 1: those things where it's just so heavy on all parties, 1230 01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:57,200 Speaker 1: especially Like I said, it's difficult to have empathy for 1231 01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:00,800 Speaker 1: anybody who hurts you. So when you're going through rough 1232 01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,040 Speaker 1: times and you're and you're with somebody who you feel 1233 01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:05,160 Speaker 1: like did you wrong at a period of time, you 1234 01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:07,280 Speaker 1: almost like it's almost like somebody could watch you go 1235 01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:12,439 Speaker 1: through it and not be effective karma. But what they 1236 01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:16,240 Speaker 1: don't understand is I was I was planted, not buried. 1237 01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:20,280 Speaker 1: So a lot of times when you plant, people confused 1238 01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:22,880 Speaker 1: that for being buried, and when you're being watered, you're 1239 01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:25,679 Speaker 1: going into something bigger than what it was. So people 1240 01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:29,360 Speaker 1: around you can't what you gotta understand to pay you 1241 01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:34,240 Speaker 1: what you have to understand there is Man does not 1242 01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:37,040 Speaker 1: dictate karma to me. And that's why I don't even 1243 01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:38,840 Speaker 1: believe in karma. I believe you read what you so 1244 01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:43,080 Speaker 1: that's biblical. So karma is man made. Karma is another 1245 01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:45,599 Speaker 1: person's way of trying to dictate to you what you deserve. 1246 01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:47,880 Speaker 1: And God is the only person that could dictate to 1247 01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:50,599 Speaker 1: me what I deserved. So even at my roughest times, 1248 01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,120 Speaker 1: I look back on it and I say I was planning. 1249 01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:55,800 Speaker 1: I wasn't buried. And a lot of times people who 1250 01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,320 Speaker 1: you've wrong because in life we were not perfect and 1251 01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:01,960 Speaker 1: we could wrong people. Sometimes times as we go through things, 1252 01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:04,519 Speaker 1: it's difficult for them to have empathy for us because 1253 01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:06,639 Speaker 1: they're human. That doesn't make them bad people. That doesn't 1254 01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:09,439 Speaker 1: make they didn't But sometimes it's human. They can watch 1255 01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:11,760 Speaker 1: you and say, well, that's what you get, not understanding, 1256 01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:15,000 Speaker 1: but not understanding, like no there saying what I get? 1257 01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:17,960 Speaker 1: This is the blessing. This is what's gonna make me stronger. 1258 01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:20,559 Speaker 1: This is the thing that I was just to see before. 1259 01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:23,439 Speaker 1: And as a seed, I was recognizing, praised for being 1260 01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:26,120 Speaker 1: this amazing seed. But now that the seed is planted 1261 01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:28,479 Speaker 1: and now you've seen what the sea really is, it's like, oh, 1262 01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:30,720 Speaker 1: I was in love with the idea of who you 1263 01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:35,240 Speaker 1: were just as a seed. Now that it's sprouted to something. Wow. 1264 01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:37,720 Speaker 1: So you can't look at it and say you got 1265 01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:39,880 Speaker 1: what you deserve. No, You're supposed to go through all 1266 01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:41,880 Speaker 1: those things to make you who you are today and 1267 01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:44,560 Speaker 1: make you stronger and make you the plant that you 1268 01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:47,920 Speaker 1: developed into now. So I'm appreciative all of the hard 1269 01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:50,960 Speaker 1: times and I appreciate all of the struggles and all 1270 01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:54,240 Speaker 1: of the lawsuits because the character that I was able 1271 01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:56,439 Speaker 1: to build a maturity I'm able to have as much 1272 01:10:56,479 --> 01:11:00,479 Speaker 1: as a man is its priceless. You can't put a 1273 01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:03,759 Speaker 1: praise from that. That's the type of schooling that I couldn't. 1274 01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,960 Speaker 1: You can't pay no university for Well. I appreciate you 1275 01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:08,640 Speaker 1: coming through and sharing with us because I know it 1276 01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,160 Speaker 1: was a lot and very heavy on you. Absolutely, Like 1277 01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:14,320 Speaker 1: I said, you know, we're trying to do two more songs. Man, 1278 01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:16,679 Speaker 1: it'd be a beautiful man to be on a yes, 1279 01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:19,880 Speaker 1: being on a mari A k A to the votes 1280 01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:21,600 Speaker 1: because all I would ask you that you guys just 1281 01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:24,599 Speaker 1: come to Miami. That's doing. If you come to Miami, 1282 01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:27,960 Speaker 1: it'll be much fun somewhere and they can we come 1283 01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:32,240 Speaker 1: here to the video service. For us, it's out of 1284 01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:35,400 Speaker 1: the box. Like it's not straight R and B. Like 1285 01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:39,479 Speaker 1: we love socer music, we love Afro beasts, we love 1286 01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:42,519 Speaker 1: rain Gay, we love she just gotta figure out the 1287 01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:44,679 Speaker 1: way to marriage it and bridges together to what people 1288 01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:48,120 Speaker 1: be familiar. Yeah, yeah, that's do. I like that. Okay, 1289 01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:54,839 Speaker 1: a little trap afro socer listen if it's an award, 1290 01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:58,479 Speaker 1: it's an award for all of us. Just know, I 1291 01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:03,519 Speaker 1: like to think I liked well, thank you as so much. 1292 01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:07,080 Speaker 1: We appreciate it. This was a really fun, entertaining and 1293 01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:11,559 Speaker 1: very educational and upliftingment service. Right now, we gotta turn 1294 01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:16,639 Speaker 1: the lights off. We gotta get some more boogies out 1295 01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:16,920 Speaker 1: run