1 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we love a little bonus content. Look, 2 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: we had a lot of opportunities to talk to players 3 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: we like watching, and we had so much we couldn't 4 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: fit them all into our shows during the week. So 5 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: this is going to be a bonus episode. And we 6 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: love a theme, and so the theme here Wide receivers. 7 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: Michael Pittman joins us first and has a lot to 8 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: talk about when it comes to the Colts and just 9 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: his future with the team, Alex Pierce's future playing. 10 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 2: With Philip Rivers. We got Adam Thielen. 11 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: We got Christian Watson of the Packers, another guy, a 12 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 1: potential twenty twenty seven free agent, and obviously right in 13 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: the middle of a great offensive season for the Green 14 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 1: Bay Packers and one of the favorites next year going 15 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: in for the NFC. So these were great conversations and 16 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: we're just going to play them all for you, one 17 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: after another, and then you'll hear us next. 18 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: At the Super Bowl. 19 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: Looking forward to that and hope you enjoy Michael Pittman 20 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: coming right up. Welcoming in Michael Pittman, veteran wide receiver 21 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: of the Indianapolis Colts. 22 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 2: He's here with e a. 23 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: Sports excited to talk to you, Michael, like I've loved 24 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 1: to watch you for a long time, and especially coming 25 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,559 Speaker 1: off this season, I feel like we have so much 26 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:29,199 Speaker 1: to talk about. 27 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: But like that that was a season though your colt. 28 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 3: Said, yeah, no, I mean everything started out great and 29 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 3: we thought, hey, like for the first like ten weeks, 30 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 3: like we felt like we were unstoppable. Our offense was 31 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 3: off to a historic pace and and everything was just 32 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 3: going good. And then obviously we had some unfortunate injuries. 33 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 3: Daniel goes on to break his leg and then keeps 34 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 3: on playing with a broken leg. I mean, that guy 35 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 3: is tough as nails and then goes on to get 36 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 3: hurt again, which which ends his season. And then obviously, 37 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 3: like we have our quarterback stuff, and then Philip comes 38 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 3: in and plays his absolutely. 39 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: When you when you first heard that he's gonna be 40 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: the quarterback and then what was it like being the hum. 41 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, So at first when Shane came in and like 42 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 3: told like, you know, I just like told us like 43 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 3: I kind of thought that it was funny, but like 44 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 3: in like like in the best way possible where I 45 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 3: was like excited, but I didn't know like what was 46 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 3: gonna happen. And then Philip came in on two and 47 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 3: a half days of practice. The guy hasn't played in 48 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 3: five years, and take Seattle down to the wire right 49 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 3: and and. 50 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 4: To a lead? 51 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, a minute to go, And and like he like 52 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 3: kept on getting better and better because he was getting 53 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 3: in like better football shape because like he came off 54 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 3: of like just like five years, so he's not really 55 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 3: really like just like gonna be in shape. But just 56 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 3: having him there, like it's almost like having a coach 57 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 3: that's like playing. They're with you, and you know, like 58 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 3: he was like checking calls and getting us in and 59 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 3: like just like getting us in the best possible plays. 60 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 3: And and I feel like that's why we even played 61 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 3: the forty nine ers super super close, and we were 62 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 3: right there and we just got to find ways to 63 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 3: I finish those games. 64 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 5: That Monday night football game was so cool because we 65 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 5: the audience got to hear the MIC's turned up. 66 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 6: They turned the center micup. I don't know if you 67 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 6: went back and. 68 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 7: Watched that broadcast specifically. 69 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 5: I know you watched all the tape, but they turned 70 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 5: the center mic up so you could hear Philip Rivers 71 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 5: doing all the things. But you you had heard that you. 72 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 5: I mean you obviously hear it every snap to snap. 73 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 5: You also hear it in the huddle. Can you like 74 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 5: give us your first of all, your best impression and 75 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 5: second of all kind of what that was like for 76 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 5: you to hear all of these. It's almost like he's 77 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 5: predicting the future as it before it come. 78 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 79 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 3: I mean, Philip is full of a lot of sayings. 80 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 3: I mean, is dad gumming. I feel like his like 81 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 3: main thing is like, ah, shoot, you know what I'm saying, 82 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 3: So like that. And then also like I played with 83 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 3: him my first year, so I mean me and him 84 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 3: go way back, and like just like having him there, 85 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 3: I just like was great and and I thought he 86 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 3: gave our team the best chance to win and we just. 87 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 4: Came up short. 88 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: It hits me that yet you've now been in the league. 89 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: I still think that you you are a young player, 90 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,119 Speaker 1: but you're now like in the middle of your career. 91 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: You're you're on a veteran contract and all that. So 92 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: you've been in the league for six years and and 93 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: this Colts team we talked about it was kind of 94 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: quietly a win now type of team because I think 95 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: you had a lot of continuity, a lot of veteran players, 96 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: a lot of guys coming back. 97 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 2: What did it mean to you that after. 98 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: The way the season ended, they decided to bring Chanstiking 99 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: back And like, like, does that give you a vote 100 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: of confidence of like this group getting another chance to 101 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: do it again? 102 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 8: Yeah? 103 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 3: Yes, So I think that that tells everybody that they 104 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 3: still believe in like this roster, believing this team and 105 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 3: everything that we've done leading up to this, because you 106 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 3: like think back like those first ten weeks. 107 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 4: If we can figure out a. 108 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 3: Way to sustain that and keep that going, I mean, 109 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,679 Speaker 3: you look up and if we're going on that path, 110 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 3: I mean we're at least a fourteen or like just 111 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 3: like a fourteen light win team and we're headed into 112 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 3: the postseason like who knows what happens, right, So but 113 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 3: but you know, like that all sounds nice and then 114 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 3: like there's what actually happens and we got to just 115 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 3: find ways to get it done. 116 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 5: You know, it's interesting too, because I think it was 117 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 5: that there was a needle that had to be threaded 118 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 5: in deciding to say, Okay, we're going to keep building 119 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 5: continuity like this, especially at head coach, obviously directly impacts 120 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 5: what you guys are doing on the field, but it 121 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 5: didn't go further than that, Like there's an urgency. It's 122 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 5: almost reminds me of like a player going into the 123 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 5: last year on a contract, and I know you have 124 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 5: some empathy for that. Yeah, so it's like right, so, 125 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 5: but it's like it's that that urgency, that feeling of 126 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 5: like we know that belief in us and we have 127 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 5: to go there's like this this. 128 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 7: Is our moment right now kind of feeling it. 129 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 5: It felt like that externally watching from the outside, and 130 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 5: I guess do you feel that on the inside. 131 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 4: Absolutely. 132 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 3: I mean when we traded for Sauce, I mean like 133 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 3: that like that was their way of showing everybody, Hey, 134 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 3: like we are putting it out there like we're doing 135 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 3: everything possible. Because Chris kind of gets a bad rap 136 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 3: for not doing enough like splash trades. But I mean 137 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 3: the team that he's put together, I mean we have 138 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 3: a very well rounded team, like when it comes to 139 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 3: offensive weapons like defensive players, and I thought he's done 140 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 3: like a really good job. And then obviously Dan obviously 141 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 3: comes in and he's playing great, and so we're just 142 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 3: looking forward to build off of that for next year. 143 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, when you when you talk about those weapons. Your 144 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: wide receiver room is you know, one of the best 145 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: in the league. 146 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 4: Thank you, City of. 147 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 6: Thank you. 148 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: Got to keep it together. 149 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like i mean we're. 150 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: Talking about this in continuity, and I'm thinking, well, that's true, 151 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: but you got to get Daniel Jones back. 152 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 2: You gotta get Alex back. 153 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: And and it's interesting you've you've been there a while 154 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: and you've seen some of these younger guys like Alec 155 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: and Josh Down's uh developed kind of how has that 156 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: been for you? And and and you know being doing 157 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: what's best for the team too. 158 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean obviously they got to do what's 159 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 3: best for the team. And like nobody knows like what 160 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 3: they're gonna do because I'm going into the last year 161 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 3: of my deal. Like i don't really know what they're 162 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 3: gonna do with me, you know what I'm saying. They 163 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 3: could do something, they could leave it the way it is. 164 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 3: I don't really know, but I just know, like back 165 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 3: to our room, like we just have a really diverse 166 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 3: group of guys, whether it's Josh Downs like on like 167 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 3: just Josh like just like Josh like on third down, 168 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 3: or it's Alec going deep or Tyler Warren like running 169 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 3: sales and working that like middle like making these like 170 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 3: tough catches. So and then see we got we have 171 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor, who was one of the contestants for Offensive 172 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 3: Player Like the Year and was the front runner up 173 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 3: until week what fourteen sixteen, So so like we all 174 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 3: thought that it was a done deal. So we have 175 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 3: a very diverse group of guys. And I felt like 176 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 3: Daniel really helped us on our key. I feel like 177 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 3: Daniel really helped us unlock that. 178 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: Does it plate just to get inside the mind of 179 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: a player, like when you are entering your last year 180 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: of a deal? 181 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 2: Does that like is that on a player's mind a lot? 182 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: Does that impact the way the season goes or how 183 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: you operate? 184 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean, like I don't want to say 185 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 3: like I think it can in. 186 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 4: A positive way. 187 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 3: It puts a little bit more urgency on it because 188 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 3: you're feeling that You're like, hey, like I have nothing guaranteed. 189 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 3: You know, I have to go out there and I 190 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 3: got to earn Hey how are you? And like then 191 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 3: like like just like I gotta go out and earn it, 192 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 3: and that's what I'm going to go out there and do. 193 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 3: This year, go out and get back to where my 194 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 3: normal production is, and I think it's gonna be great. 195 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 5: What I I was we were talking off there. I 196 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 5: spent a little time out there this year in the 197 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 5: building working on a feature for the for the Athletic, 198 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 5: my other place that I work, and I was I 199 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 5: was really taken by how connected the locker room was. 200 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 5: And there's a mix of people in there, veterans, young players. 201 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 5: Everyone gets everyone, vibes with each other. It's not separate pockets. 202 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 5: Like everyone was felt very connected. D Line, you know, 203 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 5: receive everyone. And I wonder kind of when things got 204 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 5: tough for you, first of all, it must have been 205 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 5: really refreshing for Daniel Jones to go in and feel 206 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 5: that first of all, But then when things got tough 207 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 5: for you guys down the back stretch, Like what what 208 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 5: did that manifest into that connectivity? 209 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 6: What did that show up as in the tougher moment? 210 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I mean, this is probably the closest team I've 211 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 3: ever been on, like in terms of guys that actually 212 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 3: want to hang out and actually want to do stuff 213 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 3: outside of football. And I think what it translated to 214 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 3: for us is obviously didn't translate to win because we 215 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 3: didn't win after that, but everybody stayed in it. Everybody 216 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 3: continued to work hard, everybody continued to believe, and like 217 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 3: we showed flashes versus like some really good teams, and 218 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 3: one of those teams is playing on Sundays. 219 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 4: So you know, like we just. 220 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 3: Kept that belief and we kept on working hard, and 221 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 3: I felt like effort was always great and effort was 222 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 3: always there, and that's kind of like the building block 223 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 3: like of a good team is effort first. 224 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 2: But out of the cults too nice? 225 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 4: Oh oh nice? 226 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 3: No, I mean I mean like, I mean, like just 227 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 3: like I feel like we have some really like like 228 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 3: just some really like gritty guys and that's something that 229 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 3: I try to bring to like every game and like 230 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 3: just like I feel like that's like who I am, 231 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 3: Like just like I'm a gritty, get down and dirty guy, 232 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 3: sneaky great division. 233 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 2: Now to go. 234 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 7: You know what's fun. 235 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 6: I saw the shadow of it cross your face. 236 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 5: We have had a lot of people on the show 237 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 5: who have been players who have all but said, hey, 238 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 5: we see those Patriots are in the super Bowl. 239 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 6: You know, if they got there, I think we can 240 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 6: you know, we could have done. 241 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 5: You know, we had Garret Boules on that was like 242 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 5: if we would have had both, you know what I mean, 243 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 5: it's kind of that sense like we can also do this. 244 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 8: Kind of thing. 245 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I mean, I mean give them credit. 246 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 3: I mean, they're just like they're like a really like 247 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 3: talented team and they're and they are they are coached well. 248 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 3: But but I guess like nobody saw it coming like 249 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 3: for them, right, and and like they kind of just 250 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 3: jumped out there and kind of surprised everyone kind of 251 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 3: the same way that we did in the first half 252 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 3: of the season, because I mean, like I think guys 253 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 3: were giving us like three games like just like three 254 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 3: and fourteen like which I never understood that, which just 255 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 3: like we're like some bums or something. But yeah, so 256 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 3: like just know that anything can happen throughout the course 257 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 3: of a season, you know, like you get rolling, confidence 258 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 3: starts flowing, and like you started racking up wins. 259 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: So I like an NFL where the NFC, the AFC South, 260 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: we're just taking some crief over the years. It's like 261 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: they don't get enough prime time games though, and now 262 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: we got three really strong teams. We'll see what happens 263 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: with the Titans before we let you go. We got 264 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: to have you talk about EA Sports, Yes, and Madden, 265 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: you know, very popular in my house. 266 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 3: I guess it is absolutely so Madden. I feel like 267 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 3: is like just like every kid's dream is like to 268 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 3: be in a Madden video game. And I think it 269 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 3: was the twenty twenty, like was my first year, and 270 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 3: I was excited and I'm loading it up and my 271 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 3: overall was like seventy one and I was like, that's trash. 272 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 3: And but you know, like just like going back, like 273 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 3: I've been playing Madden since I was I don't know ten, 274 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 3: you know, me, my dad, brother all all playing and 275 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 3: getting like just competitive. But they're actually putting on a 276 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 3: really nice thing tonight. It's headed by Zach Bryant and 277 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 3: it's gonna be lots of fun and I will be 278 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 3: there as well. 279 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 4: So excited for that. 280 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 7: That's pretty cool. 281 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 6: Did you I'm guessing your score increased by quite a bit. 282 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I haven't checked. 283 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 3: I mean I was trended towards like getting up there 284 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 3: and then like the back half of the season they 285 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:43,479 Speaker 3: might but during. 286 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: The season it's to forgetting contract motivating. You hear that 287 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: Madden score if you have like a bad three weeks 288 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: they bumped. 289 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 4: But hopefully I'm still in the upper eighties trending towards that. 290 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 6: I think you're at eighty four. 291 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, our producer, I know, our producer just came in. 292 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 3: Of course, that's that bad, that's terrible. It just like 293 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 3: I think, like the highest I've been is like eighty nine. 294 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 5: Okay, listen in our in our book, you're like a 295 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 5: ninety seven. 296 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 7: Okay, A friend of the show. 297 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I. 298 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: Don't need to be hearing from an NFL starting a great. 299 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 2: Wide receiver on a nice second. Oh, he's he's not 300 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 2: happy with the eighty four figure. 301 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: What the kid, Michael Pittman would think about that, he'd 302 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: be pretty happy. 303 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 2: And I'm great having. 304 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 7: You on, Michael, Thank you, thanks for being here. 305 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: Really excited about our next guest, Christian Watson, the Packers 306 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: wide receiver. We got a big time playmaker in the 307 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: middle of his prime. Was just just in the mix 308 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: obviously in the NFL, NFC. 309 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 2: Welcome Christian. 310 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: What what brought you to the Bay area hanging out 311 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: in Super Bowl Week? 312 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 10: Just get out do a couple of things in the 313 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 10: in the community with the NFLPA, and then it just 314 00:14:58,960 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 10: kind of showface to the me. 315 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 8: Yeah, and uh I love it. 316 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 4: I love it. 317 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: We can we can hear more about this, uh this 318 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: Packers season. It really struck me when you came back 319 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: from that injury. And tell me if you disagree that 320 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: it was maybe a slightly different Christian Watson. Maybe it 321 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: was the way they were using you, but like more production, 322 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: more like a higher success rate, but you're still hitting 323 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: big plays down the field, like more yards per game, 324 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: like you were kind of filling a role with you 325 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: almost never see of a guy coming right off the injury, 326 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: and you're almost doing more than you did before. 327 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 2: Like, how how did that come to happen? 328 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 5: Oh? 329 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 10: I mean, honestly, I think it really just came down to, 330 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 10: uh honestly, just got the confidence that I was playing with. 331 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 10: I mean, I think that I was just playing a lot, 332 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 10: you know, more confident and a lot more free, uh 333 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 10: than I than I had in the past. And I 334 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 10: think that, uh, you know, that kind of gave you know, 335 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 10: the the you know Jay Love and then and you 336 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 10: know the coaches more confidence than me too. Uh So, 337 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 10: I mean I think it just gave me, you know, 338 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 10: more opportunities to to make plays and just help me 339 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 10: go out there and and you know, keep it going. 340 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 10: I think, uh that was a big emphasis for me 341 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 10: and the off season was just you know, maintaining that 342 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 10: uh you know confidence and that you know, my uh 343 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 10: that mindset throughout the off season. So I once I 344 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 10: got back, I'll be able to just go out there 345 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 10: and play fast and play free. Uh And yeah, I 346 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 10: mean it definitely worked out. 347 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 5: I'm curious about that, because that's not easy to do 348 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 5: when you are returning from something like that. Did you 349 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 5: was it like self talk? Was there stuff you read? 350 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 5: Were there just like things that you reminded yourself every 351 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 5: day to just be you know, I've been through like 352 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 5: the worst, okay, the worst, and like now I can 353 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 5: just go be fore. 354 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 4: You like that? 355 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 10: Oh yeah, no, I mean honestly all of the above. 356 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 10: You know, definitely definitely a lot of self talk. You know, 357 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 10: definitely a lot of you know, just you know, mental 358 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 10: just you know, having conversations, you know, having conversations in 359 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 10: my head and then and then just you know, the 360 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 10: things that I was doing. You know, I was you know, 361 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 10: I couldn't run and you know catch all, but you know, 362 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 10: I would position myself and just kind of spot catch 363 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 10: you know, I was making sure that I was on 364 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 10: a jug still, you know, catching football's uh and then 365 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 10: really just just being around uh you know football as 366 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 10: much as I as close as I could, as much 367 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 10: as I could throughout that process. 368 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 5: Uh. 369 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:16,959 Speaker 10: So that you know, when I was, you know, transitioning 370 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 10: from you know jogging or you know standing still to 371 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 10: jogging and then to running and then you know running 372 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 10: routes and stuff, it was a lot smoother of a transition. 373 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: Uh. 374 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 10: You know, I didn't feel like, oh, I haven't done 375 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 10: this in months. You know, it felt, you know, like 376 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 10: I was kind of just right back into things. Uh 377 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 10: So yeah, now that helped me a son. 378 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: How how is it playing in this in this Matt 379 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: Lafleur offense? I can hear Jordan's voice in my head 380 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: that like Matt Leffler really likes likes his offense, Like 381 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: he likes his offense very exacting. He he wants things 382 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: a certain way. What how would you describe kind of 383 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: playing in this offense? 384 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 10: You know, I think it's honestly, it's been it's been 385 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 10: really good. You know, I think that he uh, he's 386 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 10: really good at me, you know, putting. You know, a 387 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 10: lot of different guys and positions to to be successful. 388 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 10: You know, I feel like it's you know, really uh, 389 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 10: you know, anyone can eat you know, at any time. 390 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 10: I mean I don't think I don't think he relies 391 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 10: too much on you know, one guy or you know, 392 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 10: one playmaker to make the plays. I think he can 393 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 10: he relies on you know, all the guys that are 394 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 10: out there. 395 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 5: Uh. 396 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 10: So, you know, it's it's been great playing playing for 397 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 10: Matt and playing in his offense. You know, I think 398 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 10: that you know, we've had a really young offense, you know, 399 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 10: these past couple of years. So I think that you know, 400 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 10: we've grown as an offense, you know, as we've gotten 401 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 10: you know, more reps and you know, you know, gotten 402 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 10: more confidence in in each other. 403 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 8: Uh. 404 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 10: And I think it'll continue to build. I'm excited to 405 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 10: see where this next year goes. You know, with the 406 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 10: rookies that we had last year, you know, you're gonna 407 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 10: be stepping into bigger roles and uh yeah, I'm definitely 408 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 10: excited to see where it goes. But I definitely enjoyed 409 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 10: playing under Mat. 410 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 5: Okay, so i I've known him a while, So I'm 411 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 5: not I promise I'm not setting you up here, but 412 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 5: It's something I've. 413 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 7: Noticed over the last couple of years. 414 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 5: Have you guys the young group that kind of you 415 00:18:58,520 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 5: guys all grew up together a. 416 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 7: Little bit this in this offense together, did. 417 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 6: You guys like make him more relaxed? 418 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 5: Did you make him, I guess cooler quote unquote, did 419 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 5: you make him looser. 420 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 6: A little bit? 421 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 5: Because he he has respectfully just unclenched a bit, it 422 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 5: seems like and he's he you can tell when he's 423 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 5: feeling like Jordan Love leans back with the fade away, 424 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 5: you know, passes down the field and you guys vibe 425 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 5: really well together. 426 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 7: You can you can tell when he also feels it too. 427 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 5: Is that you guys having an effect on him as 428 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 5: the play caller? 429 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 7: Maybe him feeling that. 430 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 6: A little bit more. 431 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 10: I mean, honestly, I don't even know if that's something 432 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 10: that like I would have like recognized or really I you. 433 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 8: Know, looked into. 434 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 10: But I definitely think that he's done, you know, a 435 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 10: really good job at kind of you know, just relaying 436 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 10: and you know, coaching and you know, telling us what 437 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 10: he wants and you know what he expects from us 438 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 10: or you know, like installing the stuff and then kind 439 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 10: of just letting us, you know, do our part and 440 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 10: uh and and I don't think that he's trying to 441 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 10: you know, over coach or you know, lean in to 442 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 10: those things too much when it comes to just you 443 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 10: know how we're uh, you know, going out there. I 444 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 10: think that as long as you know, he's doing his 445 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 10: part and then we're doing our part, I feel like 446 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 10: that's it's kind of been like you know, mutual in 447 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 10: that way. And I feel like that's you know, been 448 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 10: really helpful for us as as a young offense because 449 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 10: it's kind of just helped us, you know, kind of 450 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 10: like you said, just grow and and you know, mess 451 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 10: really well together. Uh So, I mean yeah, I mean 452 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 10: I guess. 453 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's okay. 454 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 7: If you made him cooler, it's fine. 455 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean I don't want to say cooler, but 456 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 10: I mean probably I feel like he's definitely kind of 457 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 10: leaned into, you know the fact that we have a younger, 458 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 10: you know, developing and growing offense over these past. 459 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 8: Couple of years. 460 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, I would imagine there's something kind of rejuvenating about 461 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 5: that because, as you're saying, that collaboration, but also like 462 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 5: you guys are all kind of doing that second phase 463 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 5: of growing up, growing up as an adult essentially together 464 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 5: all with the same group. 465 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 7: You know each other really really well. 466 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 5: You're doing one of the most difficult jobs in sports, 467 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 5: if not the most difficult jobs in sports to do 468 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 5: under a microscope, you all have the same sort of 469 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 5: of empathy for each other, I think, and like, I 470 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 5: don't know if it would seem to me that there's 471 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 5: something very cool about like he's worked with Vets prior 472 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 5: to you guys coming in for quite a long time, 473 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 5: and then now he's got this. 474 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 7: Incredibly young team. I would feel like that would be. 475 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 5: Rejuvenating in a way, just to feel that collaboration and 476 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 5: like feeling like everybody's growing together one Uh. 477 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 10: I mean, I definitely feel like he does a good 478 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 10: job at kind of understanding uh, you know, the players 479 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 10: that he has, and you know how he kind of 480 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 10: has to approach you know, different guys or you know, 481 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 10: a different group of guys. 482 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 8: I feel like he really, you know, has a good. 483 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 10: Understanding of you know, how to just approach you know, 484 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 10: different stuff. So yeah, I mean it's definitely been. It's 485 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 10: definitely been uh, you know, just easy. Uh, you know, 486 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 10: working working with Matt and you know, learning from him. 487 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: You got a favorite like deep ball catch your career, 488 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: favorite contested catch of my career? Sure, or even this 489 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: last season, anything stand out. I'll let you think about 490 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: it while I well, I give you some props that 491 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 1: there's not a lot of receivers exactly like you right now, 492 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: like vertical receivers guys who take the top of like 493 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 1: I think of and Alec Pierce right now. I think 494 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 1: about guys who are like you've averaged seventeen eighteen yards 495 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 1: per catch like your whole career. 496 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 2: It's part of what you do. 497 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: You're at a higher volume this year and you're still 498 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: doing it deep. So I know there's like an art 499 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: to that. Maybe you could explain to the listeners what's 500 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: what what the is the art to being you. 501 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 4: Know, a deep ball job? 502 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: No, just specifically, like what makes those deep balls? And yeah, yeah, 503 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: if one of them stands out of one that, like 504 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: you know, you loved in your career, Yeah. 505 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 8: No, I mean I don't, I don't. 506 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 10: I mean I have to really like sit down and 507 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 10: think about, you know, my whole career. But I mean 508 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 10: one that just kind of sticks out to me right away. 509 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 10: So it was kind of like you know, the catapult 510 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 10: to you know, you know, my career and the success 511 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 10: that I've had was just the Dallas game my rookie year. 512 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 10: You know, I got a go ball from Aaron Rodgers 513 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 10: down the sideline and you know, score did my backflip 514 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 10: and uh, you know kind of the rest was the 515 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 10: rest was history. 516 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 8: I mean, that's definitely one that you know, always sticks 517 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 8: out to me. 518 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 10: But I mean I feel like it's just always kind 519 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 10: of been, you know, something that I that I've done. 520 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 10: I don't think I've ever you know, really looked into 521 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 10: looked into it too much. You know, I've always been, 522 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 10: you know, a fast guy who you know, can you know, 523 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 10: run really fast, you know, you know, in a straight line. 524 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 10: So you know, any opportunity I get to to you know, 525 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 10: just run fast and uh you know be you know, 526 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 10: be the defender that way. I feel like that's just 527 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 10: kind of always what I've done. So it kind of 528 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 10: just feels Natteral have. 529 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 2: The right quarterback for it. 530 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, And when we talk about, like I brought it 531 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 5: up earlier, one of our favorite things on this show 532 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 5: and it happens we on a weekly basis, which we. 533 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 6: Love to see is like the deep ball. 534 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 5: But he can't like he has to make it a 535 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 5: fatal way jumper, and it looks so easy, but there's 536 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 5: like this like cool like there's this art to it, 537 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 5: and this like makes it so much more difficult. 538 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 7: Well but it's not difficult, if that makes sense. 539 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 5: Like that's got to kind of juice you guys up 540 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 5: a little bit that he's capable of doing stuff like that. 541 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 8: Oh yeah, no, I mean he's the rule. 542 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 10: He's definitely had a little a little swag to his 543 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 10: game when it when it comes to that, he definitely, 544 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 10: uh is on point with his with his fadeaways. Uh 545 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 10: And yeah, no, I mean it just it makes the 546 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 10: highlight a little bit better when you you know, you 547 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 10: pan from a fade away to you. 548 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 8: Know, a touchdown down the field. 549 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 9: Uh. 550 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 10: So you know, I always like, I always like it 551 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 10: because adds a little bit more swagged than my highlights 552 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 10: as well. So yeah, it's it's definitely, you know, it's 553 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 10: it's a big part of his game. I mean, I 554 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 10: feel like he's kind of just you know, been cool 555 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 10: in that area of you know, being poised back there 556 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 10: and you know, making plays when stuff is breaking down 557 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 10: and yeah no, and you know, even if it's not 558 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 10: breaking down, maybe just hit a fade away just just 559 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 10: for the fun, uh, and you know, it always works. 560 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 7: That's what we love about him. He plays like it's 561 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 7: fun and you do too. 562 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 5: And and it's just a cool pairing. For that reason, 563 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 5: among many others, we had him on our show. 564 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 7: We had Jordan on our show last year. 565 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 5: We were very proud of ourselves because we got him 566 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 5: to like laugh a lot and like kind of just 567 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 5: be like you know he was because he's so professional 568 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 5: and and and he's a little quieter. 569 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 7: You know all that stuff. What is the Jordan love that? 570 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 5: You know, like, what's the side that maybe you see 571 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 5: all the time and you're like surprised that like media 572 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 5: like us are talking about him. 573 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 7: In this way. 574 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 10: I mean, he's definitely he's definitely the fun, energetic, laughing 575 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 10: He's definitely that guy. 576 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 8: That's what I see every day. 577 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 10: I Mean, he's the he's the quarterback of of you know, 578 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 10: an NFL football team. You know, I'd say, you know, 579 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 10: he's uh, you know, one of the best you know 580 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 10: in the league to do it. So I feel like 581 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 10: he's got to have that presence, you know when he's 582 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 10: talking to everybody, but you know, he's he's he's just 583 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 10: you know, one of the guys at the end of 584 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 10: the day. Uh, I mean he's got that you know, 585 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 10: that humor to him and uh, you know, he's just 586 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 10: one of the guys. 587 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 6: Does he is he aware of the Toyota Toyota than thing? Like, 588 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 6: are you guys aware of the Toyota thing? 589 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: Okay, he's making money. 590 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 4: Okay. 591 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 7: I was like, at least he's making money. I guess 592 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 7: it's good. I love that. 593 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, because that's an I'm on unexplainable to mankind. 594 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. 595 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 10: I don't know how it came to be or what. 596 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 10: But yeah, now he's definitely he definitely turns it up 597 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 10: the master. And that's why Yota for sure. 598 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 1: Last thing for you, what's it like playing in this division? 599 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: What's it been like, and what's it like, you know, 600 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: thinking about it moving forward? Because the Lion's basically got 601 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: in your way last season in twenty four. I mean, 602 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: it's a it's a loaded division. You guys have obviously 603 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,959 Speaker 1: been been a consistent playoff team, but Lion's getting your 604 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 1: way and this year, you know in the end that 605 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: the Bears getting your way. When you play the Vikings, 606 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: you got to deal with Brian Flores and them. It's 607 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: just like kind of what's your what's your mindset of 608 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: these rivalries right now and then these different different teams 609 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: kind of stopping the Packers along the way. 610 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 10: Oh yeah, I mean it's definitely a tough, tough division, 611 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 10: a competitive division. But I mean I think that's you know, exactly, 612 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 10: you know, that's exactly what I want. You know, I 613 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 10: want it to be you know, those you know, competitive 614 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 10: chippy you know, the the energy and the vibe elevated 615 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 10: for those games. I feel like that, uh you know, 616 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 10: it just brings a different you know, and you spring, 617 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 10: the different energy to to those games. 618 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 8: Those are the type of games. 619 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 10: I want to play, and I want to play in those, 620 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:08,719 Speaker 10: you know, big time chippy games. 621 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 5: Uh. 622 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 8: So, you know, I think, you know. 623 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 2: The games were awesome for the average fan just watching 624 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 2: that trilogy. 625 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 6: Yeah, no, dog in the fight like it was a gift. 626 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 10: Yeah, really so, I mean I enjoy it, But I 627 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 10: you know, at the end of the day, obviously, I 628 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 10: think that you know, the Packers are are still the 629 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 10: team to be in the division. I'm excited to see, 630 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 10: you know, how it you know plays out this next year. 631 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 7: I know we have to let you go, but really quick. 632 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 5: Like we love on the show too that like coaches 633 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 5: are now getting more showing more personality too, Like we 634 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 5: love real beef between coaches, Like we love all of. 635 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 7: That locker room. 636 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 5: Like what do you guys make of like Matt being 637 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 5: a little dry, like sarcastic, but like kind of coming 638 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,719 Speaker 5: out and taking a stand I guess in the division 639 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 5: is like, hey, I'm I've been. 640 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 7: Here actually and you know I'm not going away. 641 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 5: And like kind of the the chippiness back and forth 642 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 5: between Bears and Packers in that regard, uh. 643 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 10: You know, I mean I feel like you got to 644 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 10: have a little bit of that. I mean I feel like, 645 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 10: you know, it starts, you know, from the from the 646 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 10: top down, and in terms of you know that that 647 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 10: rivalry and and that beef. You know, obviously there's a 648 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 10: you know, obviously a professional side to it too. You know, 649 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 10: you don't got to do too much of it. You know, 650 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 10: you got to you know, let your you know, play 651 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 10: do the talking as well. But I mean, yeah, no, 652 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 10: I you know, I love you know when we're not 653 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 10: when the coaches showed a little bit of personality and 654 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 10: you know, put that stuff out there. I feel like it. 655 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:26,679 Speaker 10: It brings the vibes to. 656 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 8: The team too. 657 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, we had Liam Cohen and we had him on 658 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 5: earlier too, and you know that was a highlight moment 659 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 5: I think for coaches anyway, and him and Robert Salid 660 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 5: kind of going going back and forth earlier this year, 661 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 5: so we we love the competition more. 662 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: Yes, it'll be happening in the NFC North. Great job, 663 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: Thank you, Christian Watson. Great season. Had like a I 664 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: do the big free agency list on NFL dot Com, 665 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: so I'm always scouting the future years. 666 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 4: It was. 667 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: It was a short term contract extension for Christian Watson 668 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: before this season, but but who knows, it's getting better 669 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: and better. I'm looking forward to to what's next for you, 670 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: and who knows, you might be on that list next 671 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: year or maybe packers are smart, they'll back up the 672 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: truck for you and you'll sign long term there. 673 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 2: Thanks again, Christian Watson. Appreciate you. 674 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, thank you, I appreciate it. Thank you. 675 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,479 Speaker 1: Welcoming in Adam Feelin to the show, who just wrapped 676 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: up an incredible thirteen year career. 677 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 2: I'm giving you credit for that. Practice squad. 678 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 4: Thank you. Everyone skips that, so I appreciate it here 679 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 4: we're on this I love it. 680 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: Twenty thirteen and one of the craziest NFL stories now 681 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: that it's over, because I don't think the average listener 682 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: or fan even remembers at this point, but like one 683 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: of the only tryout, like rookie tryout players I can 684 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: remember having like an extended, incredible career. So that's just 685 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: a long congratulations for wrapping it up, because it's a 686 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: really cool story for people that don't know part. You know, 687 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,959 Speaker 1: had a rookie tryout, made the team D two college 688 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: and then and then has this great career obviously with 689 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: the Vikings and then wrapping up here with the Steelers. 690 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 2: So congratulations Adam. 691 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 4: Oh, thank you. Yeah, it's wild to look back at it. 692 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 4: You know. 693 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 9: It's like when you're playing, you don't really give yourself 694 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 9: that ability to look back on things. You're kind of 695 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 9: just always going for the next thing, the next year. 696 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 9: You know, what do I need to do to get better? 697 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 9: So now just be able to take a deep breath 698 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 9: look back at everything. It's it's it's crazy, it's wild, 699 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 9: but very blessed and thankful for a crazy career. 700 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 5: This is perhaps a very invasive question. Okay, how are 701 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 5: you processing it? 702 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 4: Do you all long to have right now? 703 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 2: How long? 704 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 4: No, it's it's been awesome honestly, right now. 705 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 9: It doesn't feel any different because this is like a 706 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 9: normal offseason, right you get a little break from training 707 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 9: all those things. I will say that I've kind of 708 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 9: dove into the retirement life as far as I'm playing 709 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 9: pick up basketball at six am on Tuesday and Fridays 710 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 9: and not lifting very heavy. I did about a fifteen 711 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 9: to twenty minute leg workout this morning, which felt awesome 712 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 9: because I didn't have to worry about doing this like 713 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 9: long elaborate warm up and sprinting and training. 714 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 4: Uh So, I'm I'm diving right into that, which is 715 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 4: which is great. 716 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 5: I was a little worried when you said, start to 717 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,959 Speaker 5: say pick up basketball. It's really worried you were going 718 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 5: to start to say pickleball, which won't we don't classify 719 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 5: as a sport on this show. 720 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 4: Okay, do you like pickleball? It's okay to like athletics sport. 721 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it just seems like, you know, go for like 722 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: a sports sport, like there's an you know, tennis, you know, 723 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: just do it, go the whole way. 724 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 2: If you're gonna play, if you're gonna play a racket sport, I. 725 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 9: Will say that have you done individual like one on 726 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 9: one pickle ball, Like that's a serious workout. 727 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 7: You know the answer to that question, Yeah, he has 728 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 7: not done it. Based on his answer, true, true. 729 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 9: True, Maybe it's a great sport watch out, though you 730 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 9: will get addicted. 731 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: I will not get addicted, and I will not let 732 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: my my family play it either. 733 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 5: No. 734 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: I always think about like when I watch receivers who 735 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: win in different sorts of ways and under stand the 736 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: subtleties of the position and get better throughout the course 737 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: of their career, like who they learned from, and you've 738 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: played with and played for like such a variety of 739 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,959 Speaker 1: different coaches. You obviously spent that time in Carolina too, 740 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: which I didn't mention off the top. I'm I'm curious 741 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: of any of the players or coaches who you looked 742 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: up to who taught you the most about kind of 743 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: learning learning the positions. 744 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 9: Unfortunately, I'm gonna give you a very politically correct answer 745 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 9: because it's it is true, but it sounds kind of crazy. 746 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 9: But honestly, it was like such a there's so many 747 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 9: people that kind of influenced my abilities to play receiver. 748 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 9: And I go back to high school, like coaches in 749 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 9: high school, I remember like so many things that I 750 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 9: remember them kind of like preaching like I used in. 751 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 4: My NFL career. 752 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 9: Like my my head coach in high school was like, 753 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 9: you will not play if you can't block. Like I 754 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 9: remember like being a sophomore and like thinking I was 755 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 9: pretty cool because I made the varsity team and making 756 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 9: all these coool catches and practice and and I remember 757 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 9: him like getting after me because like I wasn't blocking 758 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 9: and uh, and he was like, you won't play if 759 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 9: you can't block, And that kind of stuck with me 760 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 9: my whole career into the NFL. I remember my college 761 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 9: coach like some of the drills that we would do 762 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 9: really helped me in my NFL career as far as 763 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 9: the top of the route stuff. And then there's so 764 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 9: many players right that I watched growing up, Chris Carter, 765 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 9: Randy Moss, guys that I watched when I was in 766 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 9: college that that we're having tons of success, Julio Jones 767 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 9: and and Kelvin Johnson. And then when I got to 768 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 9: the league, you know, Greg Jennings was there with the 769 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 9: Vikings and just kind of learning his process. You know, 770 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 9: he was an older player at the time, but just 771 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 9: being able to pick his brain a little bit. Jerious Wright, 772 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 9: who was kind of this slot receiver that was just 773 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 9: like mister Clutch. 774 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 4: And no one really knew how valuable he. 775 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 9: Was to the team, but learned a ton from him. 776 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 9: And then just guys that I played with Diggs just 777 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 9: just watching him and how he ran routes, how he 778 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 9: caught the football and his aggressiveness run after the catch, 779 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 9: Guys that were on other teams, like Davante Adams watching 780 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 9: his releases. So it's a really long winded answer. So 781 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 9: I'm sorry, but. 782 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 7: We're a very long winded show. 783 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 9: I liked it, but I really did take so much 784 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 9: of everyone's game. And then really cool was when Justin 785 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 9: came in and he just kind of provided this really 786 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 9: unique new style of playing receiver that I hadn't really 787 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 9: seen in person, and so I really pulled a lot 788 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 9: of things from his game and used it, tried to 789 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 9: use it, not as good as him, but tried to 790 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 9: use it in my game, which which again that's the 791 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:37,919 Speaker 9: beauty of this game. 792 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 4: It's so fun to see the different styles, the different. 793 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 9: Types of competitors and you're playing the same position, you're 794 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 9: running the same routes, but everybody has a little bit 795 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 9: of a unique way to do it. And I will 796 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 9: say everybody had the same thing in common, and I 797 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,359 Speaker 9: feel like it's something that's lost in translation of how 798 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 9: to play receiver high level, and that's playing with speed. 799 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 4: Is a lot of times people want to be like. 800 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 9: Oh, he's good in zones or he's really crafty, but like, 801 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 9: you can't be crafty in the NFL, like you have 802 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 9: to be you have to play with speed and explosiveness 803 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 9: and you have to be able to stop on a dime. 804 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,359 Speaker 9: If you can do those things and you can catch 805 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 9: the football and have body control, you'll probably be a 806 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 9: pretty good receiver. 807 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 7: What I I love all of that. 808 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 5: But what you also were able to do and to 809 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 5: have the tenure that you had, was to really understand 810 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 5: where to attack defenses. 811 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 7: To do that, you had to really understand. 812 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 6: The evolution, de evolution and re evolution. 813 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 5: Of defenses as they reacted to offenses over time. 814 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 6: What did you study, who did you watch? 815 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 5: What tape provided usefulness to you in terms of understanding 816 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 5: like the little nuances and shifts of how especially you know, 817 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 5: passing defense was going to try to attack you. 818 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 4: That's crazy. 819 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 9: As you're saying that, I'm like thinking, like I almost 820 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 9: started to laugh because it's like the difference from when 821 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 9: I first came into the NFL to now and how 822 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,879 Speaker 9: defenses are attacking and playing. It's almost like comical because 823 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 9: it's like a whole different game, you know. They like 824 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 9: every coach has like influenced the game in some way, 825 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 9: and and then and then the ones that have success 826 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 9: people try to mimic it right and they're like, oh, Okay, 827 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 9: that's really good. 828 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 4: I never thought of that. I'm gonna use that. 829 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 9: And then offenses started to pick it up, and then 830 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 9: they have to do something new and unique. And so 831 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 9: I think about just like when I first came in 832 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 9: the league, like there wasn't a lot of like Cover 833 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 9: zero all blitzes. You know, it's more like either you're 834 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 9: playing man or you're playing like Cover two with two 835 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 9: high safeties and and a lot of quarters coverage in 836 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 9: first and second down because you could protect the run 837 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 9: and the past. And then now it's just like, how 838 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 9: can we make Cover two look like Cover zero? And 839 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 9: you start in Cover zero and everybody just bails out 840 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 9: into this like cover two coverage, and they try to 841 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 9: make you throw hot when you really can't and play 842 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:52,919 Speaker 9: this like cat and mouse game. 843 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 4: So it has changed a lot for me. 844 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 9: Thankfully in my career, I didn't really have to worry 845 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 9: about that because they told me what to do, like 846 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 9: I gotta run a slant run. I gotta run a 847 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 9: slant route. There there's not really much you can do. 848 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 9: So really what I would study is, Okay, what are 849 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 9: they teaching technique wise to these corners, So like we're 850 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 9: playing the Bears. 851 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 4: How do they teach them? Are they soft shoe guys? 852 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,919 Speaker 9: Are they backpedaling kind of at the snap when they're 853 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 9: press coverage? Are they quick jam? Are they going to 854 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 9: put one hand on you? Are they going to put 855 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 9: both hands on you? And then once you kind of 856 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 9: feel that, it's like, all right, my studying. 857 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 4: Is kind of done. Now I just have to kind 858 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,879 Speaker 4: of run the route that's called and adjust on the fly. 859 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,760 Speaker 5: To that point, this might be maybe a very rudimentary question, 860 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 5: but sometimes we hear defensive coaches talk about changing their 861 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 5: zoning rules and the depth of their drops and all 862 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 5: of those types of things to. 863 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 7: Mess up receivers. 864 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 5: Who really are trying to gain a leverage advantage based 865 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 5: on all of those little techniques and traits that they 866 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 5: know that their corners are playing with. 867 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:49,720 Speaker 6: Is that Are we there yet? 868 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 5: Because you hear you know, you see coaches the Salas 869 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 5: and Flores certainly, but you see like some of these 870 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 5: really top tier defensive coaches like take what they think, 871 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 5: what they know the offense knows about their rules, and 872 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 5: then f with them a little bit. 873 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,760 Speaker 6: Are we there yet across the league? 874 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 7: Do you think? Or are we sort of like scratching the surface. 875 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 4: Of all of that. No, that's good. 876 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 9: I think it's interesting because every week you're like, Okay, 877 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 9: this team is in this family, this is the type 878 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 9: of defense they play, and you're like, this is how 879 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 9: people attack them. Well, the funny thing is that on 880 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 9: the flip side, they know how teams are going to 881 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 9: attack them, and so the more simple the defense, the 882 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 9: more the easier it is for them to know exactly 883 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 9: how teams are gonna attack them, like the old like 884 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,800 Speaker 9: Seattle cover three, lean the safety the other way, carry 885 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:41,359 Speaker 9: the other side, like like they knew the attackers right, 886 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,839 Speaker 9: so like they that's all they practice is the how 887 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 9: are they attacked? But then like you go into this 888 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 9: offensive meeting and you're like, oh, like we're gonna kill 889 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 9: these guys, Like this is easy. Like all you do 890 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 9: is is, you know, set a guy down here and 891 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 9: throw it over the top, like it's pretty easy. But again, 892 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 9: like they practice that, so it's again it's this cat 893 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 9: and mouse game of like okay, like they might know this, 894 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 9: but we're gonna do this. And I think the offenses 895 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 9: that just like maybe kind of throw that out the 896 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 9: window and just like all right, we're just gonna be 897 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 9: really balanced with our approach and then we're gonna run 898 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,359 Speaker 9: the ball. We're gonna have play action, we're gonna have keepers, 899 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 9: we're gonna have quick hitters, we're gonna have down the 900 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 9: field shots when we know that it's a certain coverage. 901 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 4: You know, we got a quarters coverage and we know 902 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 4: that they're gonna play it on this down. I think 903 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:23,280 Speaker 4: those are the offense. 904 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 9: And I think honestly that's Seattle like in Clint Kubiak, 905 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 9: Clayton clay was my oc Like that's the Kubiak way 906 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,399 Speaker 9: is like we are going to be uh, We're gonna 907 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 9: attack in all the different phases of the game and 908 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 9: keep it really simple for us and complex. 909 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 4: For the defense. But when you charge to play this 910 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 4: cat and mouse game in. 911 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,439 Speaker 9: Like perfect play versus perfect defense, I think it gets tough. 912 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 2: I am. I heard you say cat and mouse game. 913 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 1: There, and I immediately thought of the quarterback you just 914 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 1: played with, Aaron Rodgers, who just loves to play like 915 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 1: I got cat and mouse with with his opponents. You 916 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,280 Speaker 1: were just there with him, and that there were great 917 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 1: moments towards the end of the season. I thought, like 918 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: he played his best ball of the year with the Steelers, 919 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 1: that there. 920 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 2: Were rough moments. 921 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 1: If you were trying to convince a doubter, maybe like myself, 922 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 1: who looks at kind of the breadth of the entire season, 923 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,280 Speaker 1: just like numbers like success rate and how that offense 924 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 1: was moving, and thinking about the future in Pittsburgh, maybe 925 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 1: you wouldn't try to convince me, but that like that 926 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,359 Speaker 1: he would still make sense as a starting quarterback for 927 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 1: that team in the future, Like why would that be? 928 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 6: So? 929 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 9: Okay, I'm gonna start this in a weird way to 930 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,760 Speaker 9: answer this question, but I'll come back, I will, I promise. 931 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,439 Speaker 9: But okay, first of all, quarterbacks, right, they get all 932 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 9: the heat, Yeah, all the blame, and they get all 933 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 9: the praise, right, like, if you're good, if your team's good, 934 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 9: like best quarterback ever, he's MVP, Candid, all these things, 935 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 9: and if your team's not winning or your offense playing well, 936 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 9: it's all the quarterbacks terrible. 937 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 4: He can't do anymore. He's getting to all these things. 938 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,399 Speaker 9: And granted, they get paid really well, so it's still 939 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 9: a good job to have, right They get paid paid 940 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 9: very well compared to everyone else in the league. 941 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,799 Speaker 4: But it's just kind of just that's just kind of 942 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 4: how it is. 943 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 9: And I say that all to say that there's so 944 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 9: many factors that lead into individual success in THEFL and 945 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 9: that's why we love it. It's the greatest team game 946 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 9: there is because it takes eleven guys on every individual 947 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:18,760 Speaker 9: play to have success. 948 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 4: They have to do their job. 949 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 9: If one guy doesn't do his job, the quarterback can't 950 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 9: throw the balls getting hit. And so I think there 951 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,360 Speaker 9: was so many of those times in my time in 952 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 9: Pittsburgh that just one guy and sometimes it was me, right, 953 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 9: one guy wasn't doing his job and didn't do his 954 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 9: job well enough, and it made maybe the quarterback look bad, 955 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 9: or the offensive coordinator look bad, or maybe the running 956 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 9: back look bad, right, so so, and again that's why 957 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 9: I love this game. It's so fun to be around 958 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 9: because it's you could have all the playmakers, you could 959 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 9: have all the guys on paper that it should have 960 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 9: an explosive offense. You got this quarterback as a Hall 961 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 9: of Famer, and you're still gonna have games where you 962 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 9: just don't move the ball. And that's why, like every 963 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 9: game is so interesting to see what happens. But again, 964 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 9: I told you I was gonna have a long winter 965 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 9: question or answer and it was gonna come back around. 966 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 9: And I say that, I'll to say that he can 967 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 9: still do it. His process is unbelievable. And to see 968 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 9: some of the throws he made in practice and him 969 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 9: to do it day in and day out, like he 970 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 9: was out there competing on Wednesdays. 971 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 4: And like it just like when you're on a when 972 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 4: you're in. 973 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 9: A huddle with a guy like that that is out 974 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,279 Speaker 9: there given everything he's got every single day. He has 975 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 9: this process. He's got us over there watching film on 976 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 9: Tuesday nights. He's talking ball. He's explaining ball on Wednesdays 977 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 9: and Thursdays to all the young guys of Hey, you 978 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 9: know who's the O line blocking here talking to the 979 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 9: running back, so they understand, Okay, this is the blocking scheme, 980 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 9: so this is how I cut off of it. There's 981 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 9: not a lot of that in the NFL. There's so 982 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 9: much going on that you don't get to really teach football. 983 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 9: And he's doing that, he's taking the time to do that. 984 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:55,880 Speaker 9: He can still do it, and he can still do 985 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,360 Speaker 9: it at a high level. He just needs some pieces around 986 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 9: him that you know that they can kind of all 987 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 9: do it together. 988 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,360 Speaker 1: See that practice, that prep stuff. That's something there's no 989 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 1: way I can know. 990 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 2: That's why. 991 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,280 Speaker 1: That's why I wanted to ask and get the answer 992 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,840 Speaker 1: and really great perspective, not long winded, but we do 993 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 1: have to get to another guest. So I really appreciate 994 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,839 Speaker 1: Adam feeling your time and good luck. 995 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 4: I appreciate it. Thank you, Adam,