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Speaker 1: This looks delicious. Thanks. I'm so glad you're enjoying the

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Speaker 1: you guys really are artists. Have a great lunch, have

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Speaker 1: a great night, night lunch. Two months later, you probably

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Speaker 1: guessed it, daggie, delight? Okay? Can I say something? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: that knocking at the door. It's all your friends, your

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Speaker 1: a bottle of wine to kill. It's it's gossip. I'm shock.

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Speaker 1: It's memoir. Cleb Book Club. Come read it while it's hot.

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Speaker 1: Clebrity Book Club. Tell your secrets. We won't talk Cleberty book.

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Speaker 1: No boys are alloud book say it loud and cloud

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Speaker 1: Clebrity Book Club. Buzz Man. I brought the queer foe. Hey,

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Speaker 1: Looking good, dude, Thank you looking really cool? You're awesome

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Speaker 1: new merch. Uh, Yeah, I'm in. I'm wearing some big,

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Speaker 1: which brings us to the book we read this week,

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Speaker 1: the top of the book it says, not a dietbook.

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Speaker 1: this as a food book is like, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: very honest, real descriptions of like how things taste, and

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Speaker 1: it's not just being like every kid huts in the

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Speaker 1: Mediterranean book that has just been like, isn't olive a delicious?

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Speaker 1: Like he's actually been like so this was disgusting. Yes,

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Speaker 1: are you doing the frozen food. Yeah, so when he's

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Speaker 1: describing the frozen food, so first of all, so it's

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Speaker 1: like the very first when he makes his lasigna and

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Speaker 1: he's like really excited because he was just like, finally

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Speaker 1: it's gonna work. I can eat everything I love and

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Speaker 1: just like and still lose weight, which is basically how

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Speaker 1: they all advertise themselves. This was supposed to be lasagna

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Speaker 1: with meat sauce, but it didn't even come close. The

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Speaker 1: taste was weird, the consistency was chalky. I mean it

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Speaker 1: looked perfect, the cheese stretch all the way it was

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Speaker 1: supposed to in the saucelo grip, but it was inedible.

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Speaker 1: I know it's a cliche, but in the case, the

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Speaker 1: box probably tasted better than what was it inside. To

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Speaker 1: give that voice, Darling, the box is gorgeous. The pizza

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Speaker 1: I had for lunch the next day it was a

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Speaker 1: pitiful imitation of a real pizza. The cheese tasted like

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Speaker 1: melted plastic. The sauce was no better than uncooked tomato paste.

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Speaker 1: The crust was like soggy cardboard. I seriously wondered if

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Speaker 1: this was the company's cruel response. So the box being

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Speaker 1: better than the food cliche. The next male, I end

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Speaker 1: up at Turkey dinner. Once again. It smelled pretty good,

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Speaker 1: but the taste was huge letdown. The meat was dry,

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Speaker 1: that mashed potatoes and stuffing were blander than bland. It's

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Speaker 1: just like, okay, thank you for telling you on this

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Speaker 1: truth about Stoffers and Lin Cuisine in their bag of bullshit.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that it's chalky and that like these

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Speaker 1: our lives, I feel like I remember, you know, totally

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Speaker 1: nineties kids stuff low fat was like the big diet thing,

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Speaker 1: and I feel like I remember frozen food always seemed

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Speaker 1: out laud in my home, and I would like walk

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Speaker 1: through those aisles and I would like see all these things.

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Speaker 1: I was like, actually, these look so good and they

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Speaker 1: finally try it, except for a few like hot pockets,

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Speaker 1: which are yeah, I'm delicious. I mean, I also really

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Speaker 1: find in this book that my like my childhood was

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Speaker 1: so jarting. No I know where I was. I was

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Speaker 1: literally like I was like this closeted kid whose parents

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Speaker 1: both worked and had just like an ever revolving door

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Speaker 1: of nanny's and just like it was like lonely and

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Speaker 1: my brother be me up and I was just like

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Speaker 1: I have no one to give me solace except television

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Speaker 1: and food. And I would go home and just be

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Speaker 1: like hot pockets, strawberry ice cream, Nillow wafers, Doritos ranch

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Speaker 1: celest pizza for one that I'm heating up a Celeste

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Speaker 1: pizza for one And I thought that was the funniest

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Speaker 1: thing in the world because it was like sounds so yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was like, this is so divorced and like we

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Speaker 1: were fifteen, and I was like, but I was like,

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Speaker 1: I didn't even know what a celeste was yet. About

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Speaker 1: it's like you, right, you had, But then it's like

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Speaker 1: I don't think you, well, one, you have an amazing metabolism,

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Speaker 1: but I do wonder if it's a thing of like

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Speaker 1: the food was there, whereas with Jared, his whole thing

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Speaker 1: it wasn't food. It was shameful and it was hidden.

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Speaker 1: He was sneaking out. He was like doing much more

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Speaker 1: at like and I think that creates a much more

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Speaker 1: unhealthy relationship where then you're like, you're it's your binging

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Speaker 1: and you're having even more when you do get access

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Speaker 1: to it. Yeah, you're having two because you're like, let

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Speaker 1: me fit it in. I think it's also though, like

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Speaker 1: you know, for me, when I think about my vices

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Speaker 1: as a child, like television in the couch like was

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Speaker 1: I think actually the main driver. Food was like an

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Speaker 1: associate of the couch, right, It's it was flipped, but

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Speaker 1: it was more couch, whereas I think with Jared, food

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Speaker 1: was the driver and then couch was the food associate.

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Speaker 1: So he would plays video games a lot and watches TV.

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Speaker 1: There's a part where he's watching TV and it's after

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Speaker 1: he started his diet. When he looks out he sees

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Speaker 1: his ankles for the first time. Well there's that, but

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Speaker 1: no, no no, and he's like flipping stations. He's describing also

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Speaker 1: what he's watching and when he has to change the

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Speaker 1: channel because like food is oh yeah, he's like food

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Speaker 1: was everywhere, right, He's like a rom com about a couple.

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Speaker 1: But then they go to a restaurant click. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: first a news program, current events, the weather, um, a

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Speaker 1: sports team, then a new restaurant. Click, an amazing Civil

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Speaker 1: War regency film but oh no, this my fagures. But

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Speaker 1: then so to start feasting on a southern feast collect

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Speaker 1: and it's like thinking this big like Antabella, watching like

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Speaker 1: glory and then just like it's like someone bites into

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Speaker 1: a bread but you're just like, Nope, can't watch this.

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Speaker 1: He's like, I'm surfing the internet, and I think we

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Speaker 1: all know what he was doing on this on the internet.

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Speaker 1: And then he's like and then an ad pops up

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Speaker 1: for the latest Orange Juice collect right, and it's like,

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Speaker 1: I think you watching. The desire was like, yes, let

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Speaker 1: me watch me in Manhattan again and again. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: you got to have strawberry coke or whatever with that,

548
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: but it was much more like, let's watch this again.

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Speaker 1: Let's watch more like Charlie's Angels. And the addiction was

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Speaker 1: content really, and you know, and I think, and that's

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Speaker 1: still obviously we were all addicted. And here I am

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Speaker 1: making mindless drivel for the masses to consume. I mean

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Speaker 1: I was only allowed I think, like half hour an

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Speaker 1: hour of TV a day. Yeah, because you were raising Cambridge.

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00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: I was raising Cabridge. Also the full health and so

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Speaker 1: I think I love Peanut butter Italian subs is because

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Speaker 1: of there denied to you, and so I want to

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Speaker 1: share some of you. Be vulnerable. I feel like I've

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Speaker 1: had thoughts of my life and I know it's not

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Speaker 1: true where I feel like I've always been looked at

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Speaker 1: as someone not only who loves food, but is going

562
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Speaker 1: to order the crazy thing, is going to get the jackalopeburger. Um,

563
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: is gonna try the like Jack Daniels salmon frozen colata.

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Speaker 1: You've made it a big part of your identity, gender politics,

565
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Speaker 1: and I feel like I do that because it's like, yes,

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Speaker 1: I love food and I love the taste of it,

567
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: and I love adventure, and I love your Italian heritage absolutely.

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00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: But I think also maybe sometimes it's been a crutch

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Speaker 1: where I'm like, well, people want to see this, and

570
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Speaker 1: people will find me like funny and interesting and crazy clown.

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00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: It's the clown, and it's like, oh, well, well, people

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Speaker 1: like still want to go out to eat and like

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Speaker 1: have fun with me if like I'm ordering the salad

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Speaker 1: the fash. I picked the group of popular girls just

575
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Speaker 1: meaning should we invite Lily, Like she's so funny she

576
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: always gets crazy sids because like, no, have you seen

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Speaker 1: her order her lately? It's all salads? Yeah, Becky, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Becky as a hilarious orderer. And I got a book

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Speaker 1: for my six birthday called Snack Attack. What. Yeah, it's

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00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: like a proto dieting book. No, it was a pro

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00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: eating book. It was about like a hilarious alligator who

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Speaker 1: loved snacks. Oh, and everyone laughed at how funny it

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Speaker 1: was that he was always having met ball Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: was like snack attack, like Larry the Gator, like you know,

585
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Speaker 1: wants more snacks. Not realized how formative this, Alex like, yeah,

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00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: Larry the Alligator over here, like love snacks. I'll be

587
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: just like Larry. Yeah, everyone loves Larry. Yeah, everyone loves

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00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: to see Larry snacks. Yeah. Well, and you know, and

589
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: I think now, you know, you can acknowledge that and

590
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: realize that that was a motivator. But then you also

591
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: do enjoy it and you can play, you can play

592
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Speaker 1: with it and have fun with it, and you realize

593
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of a performance to it, but

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Speaker 1: it's not your whole identity. And you do love salads

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Speaker 1: and you go hours without thinking about food. Absolutely right now,

596
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: I'm a hungry sure, but it's lunch and it's normal

597
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: to be hungry. I'm sure the whole wheat is um.

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Speaker 1: The stir fryedness of my childhood also did help where

599
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: I love tofu and peppers. So you think it both

600
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Speaker 1: helped and hinder Like it, it created a desirability plaques

601
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: around what was denied to you, and yet it also

602
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: opens you up and gave you a taste for things

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00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: like tofu at a time when most kids are only

604
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Speaker 1: eating really simple back and cheese because sugary, high salt food.

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Speaker 1: I remember seeing kids who could only eat mac and

606
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Speaker 1: cheese and I was like, you know, losers, get a palette. Oh,

607
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: I know, it's sad. It's so sad. The chicken fingers syndrome.

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00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean I need nuggets. It's like, yeah, darling, darling.

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Speaker 1: But that's on the you know, the parents. I mean

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Speaker 1: I know, it's like you just have to it's absolutely

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Speaker 1: on the parents. No, I'm sorry. My kid is a

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Speaker 1: picky eater. No, keep it going. You know that doesn't fly,

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00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: not in my home, not in this house. My kid

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Speaker 1: is a piggy eater is code for I do not

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Speaker 1: have the fortitude as a parent, as the strength to

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Speaker 1: get them to try something different. My cat does eat

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Speaker 1: chicken for every meal. And just last Friday, get this,

618
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Speaker 1: she ate Brigett. She stole it. And I was like, brava, orzo, brava.

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Speaker 1: She never eats like human food started licking and I

620
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: was like, well, this is probably grows because like I'm

621
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Speaker 1: also eating this brigetto now my cat is looking at it,

622
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Speaker 1: and then she just tore off it tiny little piece

623
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Speaker 1: and I with it, and I was like, what a

624
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: good little girl. Yeah, I was like, damn, you were

625
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 1: like belly, Sam, we know it. That's beautiful. I want

626
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 1: to talk about the kittie point, but to get into that,

627
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Speaker 1: I just think there's there's something really I think necessary

628
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Speaker 1: about this book. I think that it shows an America

629
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: that is so real and prevalent. It's this book is

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Speaker 1: very sad. It's very sad, and I think parents should

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Speaker 1: read it the way I know, you know, parents, we're

632
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,720
Speaker 1: not parents, and parenting is hard. The way his parents

633
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: dealt with his weight I found very wrong. Absolutely. I

634
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: mean clearly they just were like, lose weight. Yeah. No,

635
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: I mean at there's a point he says, we like,

636
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 1: you know, obese people know they're obese, and just like

637
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: they don't need you, like you're tough love or like whatever.

638
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: It's just like, you know, the desire to change comes

639
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 1: from within you actually, and like you know, and you've

640
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: get a real affection for his best friend Jave. Oh yeah,

641
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: who acknowledges right right, he's almost yeah, making a fitness fanatic,

642
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: and it's like occasionally encourages them to go to the gym,

643
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: but it's really not being judgmental, and like, can I

644
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: think he can sense his emotions where I feel like

645
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: his parents are just kind of like here's some roast

646
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: of beef, Jared, where are you fat? Yeah? But this book,

647
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: like basically this entire book, and again this is credit

648
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: to Anthony Boon for Mega Instagy, But this entire book

649
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: takes place in the saddest landscape ever. It's Indiana, but

650
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: it's all like cafeterias, dorms, buffet's like empty apart like

651
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: his apartment just the description of it sounds like completely empty,

652
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,240
Speaker 1: like he's just sitting on the couch plane GTA alone,

653
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 1: like ordering pizza at night, like there's a straight balls,

654
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: like there's no like you know, it's the school gym,

655
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: but everything is just like these incredibly like desiccated, sad,

656
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: corporate bland landscapes where they're there's like no people, there's

657
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 1: no life, there's no arture. There's just like fast food

658
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: and no and no social life, no community, it's like

659
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: it's it's so depressing. Well he couldn't, like it just

660
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 1: goes so deep. I think also the reason why, like

661
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: he had no interest because like food was the main interest,

662
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: which stopped him from building other interests because he was

663
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: like I can't even explore any of those interests. He

664
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:34,919
Speaker 1: describes like one date, um, yeah, and it doesn't sound

665
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: like horrific whatever. They go out and he's like we

666
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: weren't for each other. I mean with the child porn stuff,

667
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 1: it's like, well maybe it's you know, it's like you

668
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: get stuck in a place when you were younger, and

669
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: he's like maybe stuck at tan himself. I don't know.

670
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: I mean, let me say this about child porn okay,

671
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: and Stephen hot take child pro no. I mean I

672
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 1: think I think it's very sad. And first of all,

673
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: he was convicted of possession of Trumport and then I

674
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: think there was like conspiracy to go yeah was it

675
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,439
Speaker 1: like chat for it was very like he had had

676
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: these conversations with this guy who was a shriving child

677
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: porn and they found him because like the links to

678
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: computers and it's like so fbi wa um, and like

679
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 1: I think he like he had talked about like wanting

680
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 1: to fuck kids, but like I don't think that at

681
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: least as far as I read the Wikipedia. I maybe

682
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 1: totally wrong on this, but like it was basically classic

683
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: FBI thing where it's like more of a sting and

684
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: it's just like they're getting you for like because like

685
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: you've said you wanted to do something and then you

686
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: also have all this trald porn. And I'll say, it's like,

687
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: you know, I the crime of having childboard are jacking

688
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: off to child porn, like like the sexual coersion of

689
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: children and what the awfulness that goes into making that

690
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: is awful, But the crime of actually just jacking off

691
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: to the porn, it's no, you're no more guilty than

692
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: someone who does coke is guilty of the islands in

693
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: the drug trafficking industry, right, It's the problem is obviously

694
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 1: the making of child porn, right, Obviously they feed each other.

695
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,919
Speaker 1: They're not gonna make a child but download the child porn.

696
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: But it's what's so sad about pedophilia in our country,

697
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: And I think it's like different in Italy, But is

698
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: that like how there's no it's so hard to get better? Well, yes,

699
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: because it's a technic because you go to therapy, then

700
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: most likely there's just there's you're doing by downing the

701
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:34,919
Speaker 1: porn then, and the carcerle Um response is completely wrong.

702
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 1: My I don't for saw that documentary my brother worked

703
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: on called like the Untouchables. Wait maybe this. I watched

704
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: this documentary like these like seven men who are all

705
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: sex offenders. It was like the most Florida. Yes, yes,

706
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: the most my brother shot and it's like it's insanely

707
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: sad and you it's like and some of the stories

708
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: are it's like, yes, like you know, someone did a

709
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: very bad thing once, but like there's no chance for

710
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: them to every we all know our prison system does

711
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: not reform anyone. Yeah, and it's just like the Rangers obviously,

712
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 1: from like peeing in a school ground to like downland

713
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: sheild porn to like drinking off in front of your

714
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 1: daughter so you're going for your daughter or like, but

715
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: then there's that one where there's like an eighteen year

716
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: old like woman who got pregnant by a seventeen year

717
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 1: old man and now she like, oh, like she's convicted

718
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,439
Speaker 1: of such she is like having to watch her own

719
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: child play from five hundred feet away to play ground.

720
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: It's like the sas are so they're so draconian and wrong.

721
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: And I think and this also and you also know,

722
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: you know, I worked on that um that insane software

723
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: program that like Ashton Kutcher is an investor. Yeah, and

724
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,760
Speaker 1: it's called thorn As then like children are the rose

725
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: and this is the thorn that protects them. Oh so weird.

726
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: Um and I did come up with the line until

727
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 1: every child can be a kid. But when we were

728
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: doing that brand, I felt so like I was like

729
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: so uncomfortable with the fact that we were just like

730
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: a working with like police departments, and that it was

731
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: like finding we find people looking at chubboards so we

732
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: can like take them down. I'm like, you know, these

733
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: are sad men like Jared alone, and they're like Indiana

734
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: dorm meeting subway. Who needs some sort of like a

735
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: different sort of refferent sort of intervention than putting them

736
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: in print for twenty five years. And then what do

737
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: they can do when they get a prison? You know,

738
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: the cycle of abuse then just continues, right, and they're

739
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: like they're in they're pent up with all the anchors.

740
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: So so I think it's very sad and I think

741
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,439
Speaker 1: this book does a good job of like showing you

742
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 1: the environment in which that sadness thrives and why there

743
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: is And Jared Beggs, he says, don't pity me, don't

744
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: pity me. Yeah, and it's it's really hard to fight that,

745
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: and I mean, we all have it. And it's like

746
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 1: when you do see like someone well like I thought,

747
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: I like the way he's like pitying high a beast

748
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: person is not pitying them, no, no, no no them, but

749
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: he's just like if you just pity them when he's

750
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: like people who would like look me in the eye,

751
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: like Katie who worked at Subway, who like actually did

752
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: look at him and take his order and wasn't people

753
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: a lot of people just avoid like contact with him.

754
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 1: I want to read this part at the end. He's

755
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: lost weight. He's one hundred and eighty pounds. Once, when

756
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: I was on vacation, why I happened to be standing

757
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 1: in a hotel breakfast buffet line when I noticed a

758
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: shy little girl in front of me. It's kind of chilling,

759
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: hiding behind her daddy's legs. She must have been about

760
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: four years old, and she was absolutely adorable. We made

761
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: eye contact and I waved to her. She immediately hid

762
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: behind her father and then looked up and mean to

763
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 1: make sure I was still paying attention, like craving the squirrels, like,

764
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: look gazed at him. We did this for a couple

765
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: of minutes. This is like his first flirtation to me.

766
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: When her father finally figured out what was going on,

767
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: he turned around, and that's when I realized that the

768
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: little girl's father was Jerry seinfeldt Wow, chilling, absolute. His

769
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: point of that story is that Jerry Seinfeld knew who

770
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 1: he was. Yeah, and he was like, isn't it crazy

771
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: famous to me? Right read? You said something else? Yeah,

772
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 1: I was like, you're flirting like you were also four,

773
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 1: you were finally one hundred eighty pounds, yes, and you

774
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: are a little bull development Yeah, on vacation. Who finally

775
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: like has confidence to look anyone in the eye. I know,

776
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: because you literally have not looked anyone in the eye

777
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: your whole life, because when you were in middle school

778
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: or I mentary school. The what he calls the Pappa Girls,

779
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: the killer Bees, killer bees. I'm obsessed with. We are

780
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 1: killer bees. We need to start calling our friend group

781
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: the killer bees and We're both wearing yellow and Jared

782
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,919
Speaker 1: is wearing a bright yellow button down. It's yellow town.

783
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: So I'm getting hung I'm getting starving. So, Lily, I

784
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 1: have a surprise for you, the surprise being a little

785
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: bit revealed because you can see the bag sitting here

786
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: on our table. I before our recording session, I went

787
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: to a little store known as Subway, and I'm so excited,

788
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: like I'm so hungering out and I'm watching you. So

789
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: I got to your bag best of my ability. I

790
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: got Jared's order, So Jared's Subway diet for lunch. So

791
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: so he lost two hundred and fifty pounds. He have

792
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: from four to eight in eleven months. No exercise, literally,

793
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: not a lick of exercise. Sometimes he started walking in classes. Yes,

794
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: but we have been walking. Never saw the inside of

795
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 1: a gym. By having a coffee for breakfast, just a

796
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 1: cup of coffee for breakfast. Lunch a six inch turkey

797
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 1: club with diet soda, no cheese, no cheese. And I

798
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: as I was ordering, I forgot the things that he

799
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: didn't like. I thought it was no tomatoes. Yeah, it's

800
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: no tomatoes, no olives, no onions. Okay, I did get

801
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: olives and onions. Sorry, well honestly better for me, so okay.

802
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: And then for dinner he would have a twelve inch

803
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: veggie Delight and he and a bag of baked Lays

804
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: and another diet soda. And when he first takes the

805
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: baked Lays, he's like they were different, but I still

806
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 1: liked him. The smell of the subway, Stephen, that you

807
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:59,959
Speaker 1: have brought here, God, subway, it's almost it's I've really

808
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: going back and forth. They're also right next to my

809
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: college main building was a subway and a cozy and

810
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: I famously hate it subway. I you know, it was like,

811
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,760
Speaker 1: oh you know, it's a fake sandwich. Yeah, but there's

812
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: something about the smell that sometimes sometimes it hits like,

813
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: so there's so much live in my mouth, I'm watering.

814
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: It's a very it's a very salty smell. Um, there's

815
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: nothing else like it. Smell the bread, It's like, what

816
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 1: is it? So let's dive into that. I'm going to

817
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: dive into the turkey. This is again Jared's um lunch

818
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: lunch spicy mustard. Yeah, I put mustard on it, so yeah,

819
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: he says, And no mayo oil or cheese ever, vibe

820
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: Chuck Bob Truck pretty good, except for this is very

821
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: subway half of it. The bread has gotten pretty solid

822
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: and wet, but that's because it's been sitting. I do

823
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: have to say when my artists made it, I saw him.

824
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: He wasn't being such an artist. He kind of slapped

825
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 1: it on, and then the fold he did was not

826
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 1: really like he He kind of folded it from like

827
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 1: the midpoint as it like as opposed to just like

828
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,439
Speaker 1: having to be more of like a book that you close.

829
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: He kind of rolled it almost in this way that

830
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 1: I think made it a little less nice. It's almost

831
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: giving rap as opposed to like a closed book, which

832
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: is really what a sandwiches. And I think that's why

833
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: sandwiches are such an important thing to eat while you're reading,

834
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: because sandwiches are about the sandwiches are the book. And

835
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,919
Speaker 1: I think what's good about George Order and um, I've

836
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: never really been like such a male person is it

837
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: is the spicy mustard. I mean, the red onion gives

838
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: a lot for me, even though he didn't. I'm gonna

839
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bite into the veget de light here m

840
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: hm arch phenomenal. I've never had a vegge light um,

841
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Speaker 1: pop that in your in your little corner holes. This phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: Let me teach you. Okay, it's very all Basically none

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Speaker 1: of the ingredients in some way are amazing, but you

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Speaker 1: put enough together, like and the proportions are right, it's

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Speaker 1: it's going to congeal in this way that really tastes

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Speaker 1: like normal ass good food. I've got spinach, onions, pickles. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's the onions, and I think, what and then a

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Speaker 1: spicy mustard and you're like, yeah, this is giving sandwich.

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Speaker 1: Why subway? I think, And the weight loss program is

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Speaker 1: because of the endless toppings. Yeah, that you can get

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Speaker 1: with that. Yeah, it feels generous too. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: that's not more. You're like, so I can get onions

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Speaker 1: and peppers and get pickles, chopped tomatoes. That it's very

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Speaker 1: important visually, I think, because you know, we eat with

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Speaker 1: our eyes, and especially if you have an overeating issue,

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Speaker 1: it's like you've you feel a fullness even just looking

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Speaker 1: at the sandwich that I think is very satisfying. Wow, honestly,

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Speaker 1: And now it's like, you know, I'm thinking about Jared's

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Speaker 1: extraordinary weight lost journey, his conviction. I wonder how would

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Speaker 1: you do the subway diet but with child porn. Oh

861
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Speaker 1: that's a really good idea. Fifteen minutes for lunch, thirty

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Speaker 1: for dinner. But you have to be looking at right,

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Speaker 1: you know, adult, So yeah, you would make let's let's

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Speaker 1: bump it up a little, let's say twenty twenty minutes

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Speaker 1: of like it would have to be some equivalent where

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Speaker 1: it still tastes good, you know what I mean, But

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Speaker 1: it's not like so actually naughty, So it would like

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Speaker 1: I think you could do like twenty minutes of like

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Speaker 1: mother daughter or like mother neighbor, you know, some other

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Speaker 1: illicit power relationship step step sign and honestly, like that's

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Speaker 1: basically all born now, it's all steps on. It's like step.

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Speaker 1: So I think you could, you know, like maybe and

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Speaker 1: maybe so maybe let's say let's say twenty five minutes

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Speaker 1: of like barely legal teen and elf and milf, and

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Speaker 1: then at night you could do like thirty minutes of

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Speaker 1: like you know, a sanam or like something like like

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Speaker 1: start choks for a different kink that's a little bit

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Speaker 1: more specific, right, And it would just because you get

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Speaker 1: so stuck in the FI union. Yeah, yeah, you got

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Speaker 1: that little bit allot us um, I think that's genius. Okay,

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Speaker 1: this week's episode. All of a sudden, the Philip's horse

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Speaker 1: brothers are freaking camped out of the raw bar. Yes,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden we hear those fatal words and

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Speaker 1: THEO What does she eat? Live? What does she think?

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Speaker 1: We've covered that? Yeah, I guess. Well, he goes he

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Speaker 1: can finally go out to restaurants right after a while

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Speaker 1: when he hits the one eighty and he goes to

897
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Speaker 1: a big Italian restaurant and I was so impressed, and

898
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Speaker 1: he eats like the girl chicken sell or whatever. Yeah,

899
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Speaker 1: and his all friends are getting big piles of pasta.

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Speaker 1: Oh when he sees that guy who used to make

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Speaker 1: fun of him, who's actually gained a little weight, and

902
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Speaker 1: that guy is slurping spaghetti. Yeah, and this fat and

903
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Speaker 1: he goes and his revenge. She walks by and he

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Speaker 1: goes nicely and you, Harry, have a good one. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I honestly boom bitch, I was. I was in a

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Speaker 1: little subway sub drop subdrop. Yeah. Okay, what does he wear? Um?

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Speaker 1: So the classic like style, yes, but he reveals because

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Speaker 1: we see him in this fat jeans in the class

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Speaker 1: him with the fat jeans in like you know the

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Speaker 1: jury folk. Well, I like that. He says that he

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Speaker 1: washes the fat jeans regularly because he's always taking them around.

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Speaker 1: It like speaking when you have the jeans, and he's

913
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Speaker 1: like yeah, and now it's like he always has those

914
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Speaker 1: jeans with him. Yeah, I guess now he's in stripes.

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Speaker 1: What does she wear? One of my frequent eBay searches,

916
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Speaker 1: And this goes back to my shro apoholicism and the

917
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: emptiness that's inside of me when I go on eBay.

918
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Speaker 1: Is in the Adams on their film Billy Madison, Adam

919
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Speaker 1: Sandler wears a faded Subway T shirt that's just a

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Speaker 1: white T shirt with the classic Subway symbol. And I

921
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: have been looking on eBay for that T shirt and

922
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 1: vintage Subway teas, like a one that's like faded, not

923
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Speaker 1: just like a huge bright green like new Fiesta Melt

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Speaker 1: T shirt, which would be funny enim as well. They're

925
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Speaker 1: Festa Melt. And I put it in the dryer like

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Speaker 1: with rocks, and I slash it and bleach it. I

927
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Speaker 1: love at the end of the book, where do you

928
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Speaker 1: It's like frequently asked questions, and people are like, what

929
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Speaker 1: do you think of Subway's new menu items? It's like

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Speaker 1: I love their sweetake sandwich. Still going anyway, I haven't

931
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Speaker 1: found the perfect vintage Subway tea. Okay, gem Um, how

932
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Speaker 1: does she live in this? Wait? I wonder though, like

933
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Speaker 1: he has kids? What a wife? Stop? I'm oh even sadday.

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize that. Do mean he has kids? I

935
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: wonder if they visit? I bet he probably. I feel

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Speaker 1: like he probably has some like so many like prison

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Speaker 1: letters and like people are always falling in love with

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Speaker 1: like famous inmates. Yeah, I bet he has like so

939
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Speaker 1: many Like oh, it's so National Enchoir. And he's like

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Speaker 1: writing to some woman. Yeah, just like I was in

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Speaker 1: love with Jared the Subway guy for seventeen years. Now

942
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Speaker 1: he's finally out more married. But I guess, Okay, how

943
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Speaker 1: does he live, let's do it? How does he live?

944
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: Like before? Before? I'm just picturing like dark, empty gray,

945
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Speaker 1: like maybe like one very sad like airbnbrt that's like

946
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Speaker 1: a fake painting of Times Square, you know what I mean?

947
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: It was like that or even more like Thomas Kincaid. Um,

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Speaker 1: I don't find it was mom. I think it was

949
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Speaker 1: full plan, but like when he was married and then

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00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, and I think maybe just um your

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Speaker 1: classic like raymoren Flanagan got the sat the six pet

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Speaker 1: set of the dresser and the side tables and the

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Speaker 1: lamps heavy heavy, heavy heavy to the boots. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: but I think he's pretty clean. I think it was

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Speaker 1: very seinfeldt In's way of also like a yellow shirt,

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Speaker 1: a gray shirt, rotten down on a pink shirt and

957
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 1: like pressed jeans. Um, okay, who were in the book.

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00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I related a lot with Jared um

959
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: loving food sometimes not being able to stop. Yeah. Um,

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Speaker 1: you I mean, do you think I'm Jail. You're a

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Speaker 1: little JL like fitness, not judgmental fitness fanatic, but like

962
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 1: saying sometimes, you know, being like hey, hey, want to

963
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: go to the gym with me? Keister, Yeah, just like

964
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 1: a little He was like, Jail was blunt. You are

965
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Speaker 1: a bluntchress. Yes, you were definitely a blunt tress. Um,

966
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Speaker 1: And he was like, Jaill liked to have fun, but

967
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: when he was studying, he was studying. And I feel like,

968
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: you know, right, you can get in the zone, I

969
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: can really buckle down. But I give this book four

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00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: six inch Turkey Club. Oh yeah, with the match twenty

971
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: four inches of Turkey Club. Um. It was real fast read,

972
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 1: and it was really surprising and sad and I cried

973
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 1: at that end, and I think it was it's, you know,

974
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: in the American tragedy of our podcast. I think it

975
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: was very interesting to read about someone who was winning.

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Speaker 1: I agree on and lost our podcast is an American Yeah. No,

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Speaker 1: I think for those very same reasons, I give it

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Speaker 1: um a four and a half New notches on a

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Speaker 1: belt buckle poach with a nice hope the night that

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Speaker 1: insane scene where he's poking the belt buckle with the

981
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 1: nine I'm pretty easy at it. Again, he was like,

982
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: I made sure so much secrecy again in shame, because

983
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: this is before he didn't want anyone to know he

984
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: was losing weight because then they would get so excited,

985
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 1: which would be like so annoying. It's like you've been

986
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,320
Speaker 1: single for a long time, right, you got a boyfriend

987
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 1: and people were freaking out. It's like, okay, but it

988
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: don't look more embarrassing for you, and then they're gonna

989
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,280
Speaker 1: chink si. Um. But yeah, for all those same reasons,

990
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 1: I just think that it shed so much light and

991
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 1: I was really kind of shocked by this book, just

992
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:35,240
Speaker 1: like how eye opening it was about like so many

993
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:39,439
Speaker 1: different facets of the American experience. Um that I think

994
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: this should be required reading. People talk about health class, okay,

995
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 1: and they're like, calories read this in health class. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this and thirty minutes millporn and h yeah you know

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Speaker 1: what order at twelve inch delay the next time you're

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Speaker 1: at a subway. See how you feel? Um so well, Um,

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Speaker 1: it's been the ground that another ripped roaring. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: bringing the subs. You're really satisfy me and I feel

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Speaker 1: perfect right now. Um, I don't need more, not too full,

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00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 1: not too full at all. I can really go on

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Speaker 1: with my day. Okay, Well, well Clover book Clubs done

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