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Speaker 2: All from William.

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Speaker 1: Hello, what's your name?

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Speaker 2: William?

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Speaker 1: Have we ever spoken before? William?

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Speaker 2: We have not? Well, where are you at right now?

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Speaker 1: Where am I at right now? I'm I'm I'm under

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Speaker 1: the ocean. I'm in the clouds, I'm inside of your brain.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking to you on the telephone. Why hold on?

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Speaker 1: Why would you say that I'm in Arizona.

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Speaker 2: Because aren't you like on tour or something.

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Speaker 1: I I'm I'm I'm I'm on tour on off this

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Speaker 1: whole year. But right now I am in an indus.

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Speaker 1: I am. I am in a place, sitting in a

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Speaker 1: chair talking to you. That's where I consider myself to be.

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Speaker 1: Where are you?

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Speaker 2: Welcome home? Thanks you for New York City baby.

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Speaker 1: Okay, how's that going? So you're in New York City?

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Speaker 1: Is there anything in particular that you called in to

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Speaker 1: talk about today?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I want to tell you a weird story about me,

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Speaker 2: because you're kind of a kindred spirit, a wanderer, a traveler,

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Speaker 2: and I have a weird story about like what I've

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Speaker 2: been traveling since I was like nineteen or something, just

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Speaker 2: basically like wandering around the world, like moving places and

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Speaker 2: doing weird shit. And I want to tell you about

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Speaker 2: like the weirdest think one of the weirdest things that's

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Speaker 2: happened to me, you know, the adventurous.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, tell me the story.

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Speaker 2: So, like I just like broke up with this girl

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Speaker 2: I was dating for ten years. So I just like

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Speaker 2: was flipping out, like totally, like one of those moments

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Speaker 2: where you just like your identity is totally malleable, and

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Speaker 2: so I like I flipped out. Went to India and

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Speaker 2: my second night there, like like I just had spent

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Speaker 2: one full day there and was kind of like, Damn,

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Speaker 2: India kind of sucks or something, you know, because you

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Speaker 2: always did when you first get somewhere, before you start

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Speaker 2: having fun.

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Speaker 1: And tell me, I want to know what so you

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Speaker 1: you were when you were there the first day? What

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Speaker 1: was it that that you felt sucked about India?

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Speaker 2: Nothing sucked. It's just you travel like kind of to

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Speaker 2: escape at times, and I find that it's kind of

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Speaker 2: annoying because you realize, oh, I'm still here in India.

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Speaker 1: It's true. Everything that's true, everything you're escaping from tends

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like life always, you know, like there's this right

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Speaker 2: I think the Buddha says, uh. People will say, you know,

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Speaker 1: But are you okay? Hold on? Are you old? Are

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Speaker 1: you okay? What is up with you?

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm just nervous, dude. This is I just called

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Speaker 2: like seventeen times like, oh my god.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't know you sound I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: just I couldn't tell if you were doing a bit

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Speaker 1: I'm taking you up at full at uh face value here,

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Speaker 1: and I would I would be so upset with you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean sort of. But I mean life is

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Speaker 2: cool too. But uh so I went to sleep in

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Speaker 2: this hostel and then this this dude comes in, these

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Speaker 1: But that's interesting because I always thought of prayers in prayer,

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Speaker 2: But it's like kind of flex like it's kind of

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Speaker 2: you know, the story leads to me becoming Muslim. So

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Speaker 2: I so this guy, like he shined a light in

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Speaker 2: and then he was like, I want you to come

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Speaker 2: So I'm like, okay, yeah, like sure, I'll go to

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Speaker 1: And I like that.

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Speaker 2: I like that. I wake up the next day, I

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Speaker 2: out he's like this wholesaler and he like owns a

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Speaker 2: cosmetic small in this other town called Suda and uh,

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Speaker 2: and so I go, I'm walking around with him and

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Speaker 2: I would never normally get to go to. You know that,

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Speaker 2: like you don't you don't see any tourists and like

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Speaker 2: it's getting really like sketchy, like going through like really

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Speaker 2: just like India is fucking crazy. Man, Like you've got

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Speaker 2: to go to India. It's like amazing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so so this man just to catch usf So

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Speaker 1: this You are sleeping in your hostel and a man

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Speaker 1: wakes you up by telling you that you're very handsome.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you kind of had a crust on me.

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Speaker 1: But this sound this you that sounds like you were

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Speaker 1: like his easiest human trafficking victim.

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Speaker 2: Well, dude, exactly, because I was in the right head

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Speaker 2: space too, So you'll see all this it basically it's

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Speaker 2: kind of what happened. But so, uh, I'm going around

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Speaker 2: with him these wholesalers, and I'm like his like token

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Speaker 2: like working in construction for like years, and he's like, okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm like Donald.

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Speaker 1: Trump or something, right right right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm like, yeah, you own the company I mean,

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Speaker 2: well make like, yeah, fifteen dollars an hour, but uh,

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Speaker 2: I'm like yeah, sure, man, like I'll help you flex

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Speaker 2: and it's working. They're all like very impressed, like wow,

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Speaker 2: where'd you find this white guy? And at the time,

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Speaker 2: I had like guy fieddi like frosted tips, so I

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Speaker 2: looked even more freakish. Like when you're in India, like

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Speaker 2: everyone stares at you already just if you're like a foreigner,

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Speaker 2: but I looked like a extra weird foreigner. So people

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Speaker 2: are just like what the fuck is that? Like everywhere

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Speaker 2: I go, and I was out there for a while,

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Speaker 2: so it was like a constant thing. But so yeah,

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Speaker 2: The people even let me in. They're like, no, that

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Speaker 2: I'm ticking them in, like get out the way.

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Speaker 3: Like this is my brother. It was.

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Speaker 2: It was adorable, and it was really like it came

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Speaker 2: from a really good hearted place, I feel, and and

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Speaker 2: so but you know, to go in the mosque and

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Speaker 2: to pray. You know, it's like call to prayer time,

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Speaker 2: and so I had to say the prayer to like

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Speaker 2: become Muslims. So I said that this prayer.

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Speaker 1: Well when hold on, you said you had to say

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Speaker 1: the prayer to become so you're you. So so let

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Speaker 1: me get this straight. So within the span of like

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Speaker 1: how within the span of a day for.

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Speaker 2: This is four hours. Yeah, with a four.

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Speaker 1: Hour span, you're sleeping in a hostel, a man wakes

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's like, well, it's it'd be awkward to

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Speaker 2: back out now, I'm already we already like fought to

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Speaker 2: I'll say the prayer. And it's like what can I lose?

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Speaker 2: You know, like I'm down. I'm I'm really down to

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Speaker 2: just go deep when I travel and just like fucking

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Speaker 2: let it consume me. You know, that's the whole point.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: I don't by the way, I don't think that's a

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Speaker 1: bad idea at all. You look, you only have one life.

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Speaker 1: You might as well try out all the religions exactly.

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Speaker 2: Man, and and dude, Islam is beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Like okay, so I so you you got you this

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Speaker 2: So so then I go in and I, you know,

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Speaker 2: And I'm not like a big fan of dogma or anything,

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Speaker 3: To have an experience.

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Speaker 2: But it's kind of blowing my mind. And you know,

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Speaker 2: throughout the day. By the end of the day, he's

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Speaker 2: taken me to like eight mosque, you know, and we've

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Speaker 2: been praying. You know, I'm already starting to pray like

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Speaker 2: you know, you know, ten times.

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Speaker 3: A day or whatever.

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Speaker 2: I don't even remember the amount, but I'll praying a lot,

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Speaker 2: you know, in between, like in between all these calls

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Speaker 2: And and so then we're sitting we'll get to like

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Speaker 2: one of the sketchiest neighborhoods We've got to so far,

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Speaker 2: I've already prayed like, you know, a bunch of time.

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Speaker 2: I'm super Muslim already. And he's introducing me to everybody.

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Speaker 2: It's like, this is my new Muslim friend. And and

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Speaker 2: the sketchiest dudes like smoking clove cigarettes, and like, uh,

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Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, this is my new Muslim friend. He's American.

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And he you met him in Mumbai?

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Speaker 1: So how far away? How far away was are those

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Speaker 2: Because because it's fucking India, Man, I don't know. It's like,

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Speaker 2: what what's like rich in India in Sudha is not

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm staying with his like wife and kids. He's

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Speaker 2: Like they were already crying, like because they're so like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's using me to his leverage because not only

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 1: I how did they? Okay, so did this take a turn?

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Speaker 3: Whatever?

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Speaker 2: be a part of my family. And we're gonna get you.

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00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 2: You're gonna have up We're gonna get you a wife,

437
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 2: and you can have up to three wives. You know.

438
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 2: So all this shit was sounded pretty damn nice.

439
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: Wait he told you that he was gonna give you

440
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:08,439
Speaker 1: three wives.

441
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 3: Up to three.

442
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 2: It's like if the one isn't good then you can

443
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 2: get another.

444
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 3: If two isn't good.

445
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 2: Enough, you can get like a third or something. So

446
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,679
Speaker 2: I was like, this was all sounding pretty I mean, fuck, dude,

447
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,120
Speaker 2: you know, I'm like twenty four years old at this time.

448
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 2: Like that sounds like a pretty damn good life.

449
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 3: Man.

450
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 1: That's why I was gonna ask guys gonna like when

451
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,959
Speaker 1: they're okay, they're they at that point. I mean, you

452
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 1: I assume you didn't have a job and you broke

453
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 1: it up with your girlfriend. At that point, were you

454
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,360
Speaker 1: just like were you considering it? Were you like yeah,

455
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,199
Speaker 1: and that fuck it, I might just stay here in it.

456
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

457
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 2: And it freaked me out because I was just like,

458
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 2: am I thinking like I felt this whole time, like

459
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 2: I had my head on my shoulders, Like this wasn't

460
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 2: even my first rodeo I've been doing. My entire life

461
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 2: has been weird as fuck.

462
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 3: So like.

463
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 2: This is like something that I'm accustomed. This level of

464
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,199
Speaker 2: weirdness is not new to me. So but like but

465
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 2: I was like, am I like being brainwashed or something? Like,

466
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 2: am I okay? Like this is this okay? And what

467
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 2: it was freaky because I was like, I think I

468
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 2: might actually fucking do this, Like I think I might

469
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 2: actually stay here. So but then after the last I

470
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 2: give that speech, and then I had decided that I

471
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 2: needed to leave this town for a little bit to

472
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 2: think on my own. Because the thing is, the whole

473
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 2: time I was there, I was never left alone, like

474
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 2: only in my bedroom, but I had like sofurs everywhere,

475
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 2: like I had a chaperone at all times, to the

476
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 2: point where I almost couldn't think straight. Like I wasn't like, like,

477
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 2: first of all, I have a shit some the like

478
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 2: diary and stomach problems because I just got to India.

479
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 2: They're feeding me a fucked hunt, like literally force feeding

480
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 2: me with their hands, and said, and I'm not sleeping

481
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 2: that that much. Like these like Muslim people know how

482
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 2: to fucking party, like without alcohol and stuff like they

483
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 2: just kind of just stay up and just like work

484
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,360
Speaker 2: their fucking ass off his prey a ton. So it's

485
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 2: like it gets you into this kind of like state

486
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 2: and and I was like, I need to go be

487
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 2: alone and like consider what's going on right now. And

488
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 2: it was right when it was about to be Ramadan.

489
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 2: So they were like, we want you to stay at

490
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 2: least one more month for Ramadan. And I was like

491
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:34,919
Speaker 2: it was kind of if I did that, it was

492
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 2: like game over. You know. Of course I was going

493
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 2: to like stay for the rest of my life after

494
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 2: one month of Ramadan. But so so I was like, nah,

495
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 2: I gotta leave. I had this beautiful moment with them

496
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 2: with the family one last night, like reading the Koran.

497
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 2: His like brother gave me these beads and he said,

498
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 2: like if you don't even if you don't come back

499
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 2: or while you're thinking about this, I want you to

500
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 2: take these beads and every day I want you to

501
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 2: chance Yahadi Yahadi Yahadi and yah Rahim yah Rahim yah Rahim.

502
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 2: I said, I don't know. It's something something some type

503
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 2: of prayer or for like help from God's very sweet.

504
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 2: Yeah it was cool, man, it's this is all I

505
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 2: love Islam. Islam as cool as fuck. But but yeah,

506
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 2: I uh so, I just get out. Well it the

507
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 2: morning I told everybody was gonna leave, and then the

508
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 2: morning I was gonna leave, I wake up and it's

509
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 2: the first morning I can't find sucking anybody to give

510
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 2: me the ride to the train station, even though that's

511
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,479
Speaker 2: what we all talk about me doing the day before.

512
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 2: Like suddenly everyone's gone, Like suddenly everyone's gone. And I

513
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 2: was like, all right, fuck this, put on my backpack,

514
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 2: packed my ship, and I walked myself to the train station.

515
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 2: And then this man, my protector, my patron, the.

516
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: Guy from the guy from the very beginning.

517
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, the guy who loves me, and he uh he

518
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 2: just was like text me like what you've done is

519
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 2: very bad, Like he was pissed, and he's like, dude,

520
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 2: I just told you I was gonna do this, but

521
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 2: I bet he got it made him real mad, and

522
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 2: he was like he was mad. I mean, he probably

523
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 2: would have like accepted me back if I changed my mind,

524
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 2: but he was. He was really heartbroken about it.

525
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 3: You know.

526
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 2: I think they all kind of were because in their eyes,

527
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: like for me to not become a Muslim is like

528
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 2: it's like cursing myself to hell, you know, so like

529
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 2: and and this guy, like it sounds all like ulterior motives,

530
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 2: but I think this man actually was like really cared

531
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 2: about me and was really trying to help me. So

532
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 2: it was like it was sad for them because it's like,

533
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 2: damn all right, man, Like you're kind of fucked though.

534
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: You know. He told me before I left, you know,

535
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: he's like, you know, all this peace, you're feeling, all

536
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 2: this love, you know it's gonna be gone when you

537
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 2: leave here. And I mean he was sort of right

538
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 2: because it was his home, it was this base. But

539
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 2: the thing is is that I wasn't allowed to have

540
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 2: an identity there, Like I'm I never tested this, but

541
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 2: I'm like bisexual. Like what would these people think if

542
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 2: I told the most bisexual or what if you know,

543
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,719
Speaker 2: like or just what if these people knew who I

544
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 2: really am, and and if they wouldn't, they probably wouldn't

545
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 2: even have responded any type of way except for just

546
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 2: shut up, don't talk about that, and like in line,

547
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 2: and it was like that big break when I was

548
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 2: twenty four, I had to hit this big moment where

549
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 2: I was sick of that, you know, like I had

550
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 2: to say fuck everything to be free. So it's like,

551
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 2: I'm not going to just like lock myself down again

552
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 2: right as I begin exploring. So then I just went

553
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 2: continued traveling in India and went and did a bunch

554
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 2: of other really weird.

555
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: Huh. So this is fascinating because and you know, you

556
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: said at the beginning that we're kindred spirits, and I

557
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: know exactly what you're talking about when you're like I

558
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: am on the hunt for you know, experiences and things

559
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: that are you know, out of out of my ordinary. Yeah,

560
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: I identify with you on that. And it's funny to

561
00:30:53,760 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: me because like I'm sure people listening to this probably

562
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: probably and you you said it yourself, You're like, I

563
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: know it sounds ulterior motive, and I'm sure people listening

564
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: to this have all kinds of theories and reactions to

565
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: the things that you're talking about, and and these ideas

566
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: of how there might be some ulterior motive going on

567
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: in there, because it's just so it's just so strange,

568
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: like why is this guy in a in a in

569
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: a tourist hostel five hours away from where he lives

570
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: and asks you it's just so many, so many questions.

571
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: You just don't have answers to them. And you were there,

572
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: you lived it, and yet you still look at it,

573
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: and you, even after having had some time to look

574
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: at this from outside, you still think to yourself, you know,

575
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: I don't think there was an ulterior motive. I genuinely

576
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: believe that this guy felt as though or.

577
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 2: It could be both, could it could be a.

578
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: Combination of both, but just you saying you genuinely felt

579
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: as though this guy uh wanted you to have a

580
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: better life, just because that's the kind of guy he is,

581
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: and just because that's the kind of you know.

582
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 2: He wanted me to have a better life, and he

583
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 2: wanted to flex that he got this uh, white kid

584
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 2: to become a Muslim, and he wanted me to be

585
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 2: like his token in business. And I think he had

586
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 2: a little bit of a gay crush on me.

587
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: But in addition, you think hold on you, you just

588
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: brought that, you think he had a gay crush on you,

589
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: just vaguely.

590
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 2: Just vaguely. Oh fuck, I shouldn't even say that. Man,

591
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna like dock this guy. God damn it.

592
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: I guar look, even the most sophisticated fucking private agent

593
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: I don't think could determine where this guy is from

594
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: based on this story. Although I don't know. This town

595
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: sounds kind of small. What's the name of it.

596
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 2: Let's forget about that, all right, Well the city you mean, yeah,

597
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 2: the city.

598
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: Let me ask you something. So I let me ask

599
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: you a question. If he came on to you, how

600
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: would you have reacted.

601
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 2: I don't know. He's pretty gross. He's like this stout,

602
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 2: like he had this like gnarled face, like talked in

603
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 2: this like really loud, like raspy. Boy.

604
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: I can't tell how you feel about you know, I

605
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: can't tell how you feel about this guy because on

606
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: one hand, you talk about him like you're with with

607
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: like uh, suspicion, but you also talk about him with

608
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: like love and genuineness, because both are true.

609
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 2: Man, that's been that's like, that's my experience of everything. Man,

610
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 2: Like it's I feel like everything is true?

611
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: Do you have have you texted? Has this guy texted

612
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: you since? How long? How long ago was this?

613
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 3: First of all, this was this was like four years ago, like.

614
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: Twenty eight Now has he texted you since?

615
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 3: No?

616
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 2: Because that was like my Indian phone and he got.

617
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 3: It for me.

618
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: So you you don't even have any way of getting

619
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: like if you if you woke, if you.

620
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 2: I could go the Let me ask you what.

621
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: In the past four years, In the past four years,

622
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: have you ever woken up in the middle of the

623
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 1: night and been like I should have taken the offer

624
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 1: for the three wives and the and and out the

625
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: Bentley and all. No.

626
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 2: No, but you know I do. I do consider getting

627
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 2: back into Islam because I kind of want to go

628
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 2: do Hajj and go to Mecca because that just sounds insane,

629
00:34:55,280 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 2: Like just like people have no I idea how trippy

630
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 2: Islam is. Like I've done all that shit and like

631
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 2: it's one of the you know, it's as trippy as

632
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 2: taking DMG or something, and it's very deep. You know,

633
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,919
Speaker 2: all these like all these dogmatic religions have a very

634
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: mystical and true aspect to them, you know, and just

635
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 2: like going to Mecca would be insane. But I think

636
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 2: I would need to practice a lot because you can't

637
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,439
Speaker 2: go there unless you're a Muslim, you know, So I'd

638
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 2: need to be a real Muslim. And so I think

639
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 2: about it, and I think about becoming a Muslim again.

640
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 2: But it's weird because.

641
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 3: It's like.

642
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 2: I don't know how people would feel about me, even

643
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 2: you know, I don't think that's really kosher, even for

644
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 2: a guy like me, like that one foot one out,

645
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 2: one foot in, one foot out, like with many religions.

646
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 2: And that's what kind of annoys me about many religions

647
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 2: is like this, uh, this lack of like nuance in

648
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 2: the thinking and like this all these rules and it's

649
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 2: like like it's it's kind of sad to me that

650
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 2: Islam is so dogmatic because it's so rich and it's

651
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 2: so funny.

652
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: Can you I'm like I feel like I'm I feel

653
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: like I have a thirty percent understanding of what that

654
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: word means.

655
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 2: You keep using it dogmatic, yes, like you know, just

656
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 2: buy the book, you know, by the rules, like look

657
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 2: like you know and like and like shame, shame, shame,

658
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 2: and you fucked up and you know, like I walked

659
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 2: into I walked into a mosque with like a tear

660
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 2: in my pants, and that's like a massive faux pas.

661
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 2: Not that that's even you know, but just I wish,

662
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 2: I wish like some of the goodness of some of

663
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 2: these like great religious traditions could be like shared with more.

664
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 2: I mean Christianity too.

665
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 1: You're trying to you you're trying to you're trying to

666
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: alacart the religions exactly. Yeah, which you know, I don't

667
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 1: think that's anything wrong. I mean, I mean, look, here's

668
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 1: in the grand scheme of things. You could make a

669
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: religion called william Ism and you could go ahead and

670
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: be what you believe.

671
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 2: Be called William's Way, Williams Way.

672
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: Why did you go to jail last month?

673
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 2: Oh dude, I I uh I Have you heard of

674
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 2: this app random Nautica?

675
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: No, what is that?

676
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 2: It's like an app that like generates random GPS coordinates

677
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 2: and so.

678
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: Like it sounds like that sounds like the start of

679
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: how somebody went to jail for sure.

680
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just love it. You've got to

681
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 2: try it out. It's like right up your you have

682
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 2: to try it. But uh so, I don't know if

683
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 2: you've ever gotten to like chaos magic or anything like that.

684
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 2: But the idea is, if you know William Burrows and

685
00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 2: do like if you create randomness, if you do things

686
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 2: that create randomness, it invokes like synchronicity and like magic,

687
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 2: like if you if you do that, you know the

688
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've heard of the cut up technique,

689
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:16,240
Speaker 2: but you if you cut a newspaper up and separate

690
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 2: all the words and then like jumble them together, it's

691
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 2: like that it will try it will speak to you,

692
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 2: you know. So it's like, uh, the GPS coordinates when

693
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 2: you when you do something random, when you break out

694
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 2: of the matrix by doing something you normally wouldn't do,

695
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 2: weird shit will happen. Like test it, like to everybody

696
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 2: out there, I dare you to go. Try to think

697
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 2: of something you would never do and do it and

698
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 2: see if some weird ass shit doesn't happen. I promise

699
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 2: you it will, you know. And so we're going around

700
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 2: doing this random nautica thing, and you know, we found

701
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 2: some abandoned boats at some point, and then me and

702
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 2: my friend Wan and then we went into this like

703
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 2: waste processing plants and we like acted like we worked there,

704
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 2: Like I was like pretending to talk on the phone,

705
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 2: and like we got in and and then we were done.

706
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 2: We had this big adventure exploring Brooklyn. And then at

707
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 2: the very end of the night, we we went to

708
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 2: our last stop and we hopped a hopped the fence

709
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 2: into a construction uh whatever, construction site, and we got

710
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 2: fucking arrested.

711
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 3: Dude.

712
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 2: Those things are posted up, and we got arrested hard,

713
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 2: and it was so scary. It sucked getting arrested dude.

714
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 4: In New York.

715
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: I liked.

716
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 3: I like that.

717
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: You're like, you know, man, if you go out of

718
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: your way, crazy things will happen, like getting arrested for trespassing.

719
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly.

720
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 2: But but but we were looking for adventure, man, and

721
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 2: we found it.

722
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I you look man, I'm look I

723
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: like you, man. I like the way you think.

724
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 3: Right. This is.

725
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: Uh, you're you're you're out there to live. Uh, you know,

726
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: all the days of your life. I respect that.

727
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 2: I mean there's a lot of off days. But I'll

728
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 2: get pumped again. I'll get the bravery back.

729
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: What do you do for a Do you have a

730
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: job or a girlfriend?

731
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 3: Now?

732
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I do you have elements to your life

733
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: that are I assist of.

734
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 2: That's like one thing I made. I've been making art

735
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: for like years. I'm trying to do I'm trying to

736
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 2: be like a big painter in New York City, and

737
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 2: I'm really on and off about that goal because it's like, fuck,

738
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 2: I just want to go through random ship, but there's

739
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 2: like this gravity that keeps pulling me back to painting.

740
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 2: So if anybody in New York or Brooklyn knows a place,

741
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 2: like has a space where I can do an art show,

742
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 2: I've got a bunch of badass paintings and I'm gonna

743
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 2: make a whole bunch more. So, please reach out to me.

744
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 2: If you've got a spot, I can your show.

745
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: You're like, you're like David Show, I do, dude.

746
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 2: David Show made a huge impact. That's what started me

747
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 2: on a lot of this ship. Bro. I watched Thumbs

748
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 2: Up when I was like, I watched that one movie

749
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 2: where he gets like lost in Alaska.

750
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about. Im up is yeah, yeah.

751
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 2: But then yeah, I watched the Thumbs Up right before

752
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 2: I graduated high school, and I was like, damn, Like, yeah,

753
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 2: he's one of the goodus for sure, man, he's one

754
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 2: of the heroes. And you are too.

755
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 3: Man.

756
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: I was just watching you.

757
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,720
Speaker 2: Like, I was just watching you like walk around in Japan,

758
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 2: and I was just like, damn, like I gotta get

759
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 2: back out there. I gotta shake some ship up.

760
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what, fuck man, I I I that's

761
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: that's cool that you you liked the Japan stuff. I

762
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: still need to like put edit that and put it

763
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: on YouTube, but yeah, I loved I love doing that

764
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 1: kind of shiit of just I mean, that's what's cool

765
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: about the Gecko costume is like I can go out

766
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: anywhere and just people will start talking to me, and

767
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: you know that that leads you to all kinds of

768
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: all kinds of adventures and whatnot. Well, okay, what's your

769
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: do you if you want? If you want, do you

770
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: want to plug yourself? Do you have an art thing? Yeah,

771
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 1: you can do.

772
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 2: I've got like an art I g it's not really

773
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 2: I'm better. I'm better than it shows. But like I

774
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 2: I'm not very like I've never really like given a

775
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 2: lot of time in my marketing or whatever. But yeah,

776
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 2: I'll plug my thing and somebody fucking give me a room.

777
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 2: I can show some art and a big white box.

778
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: You can. Why look, man, you know there's Google and

779
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: Craigslist and ship right, this is the worst possible avenue

780
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: for you to be asked.

781
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe maybe I'm.

782
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: What's what's your Instagram?

783
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 2: William Way one two three four.

784
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 1: William Way one tooth before? All right, man, I'll check

785
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: you out.

786
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go on it right now and I'm gonna

787
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 2: post a picture of me at the giving the inspirational

788
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:11,919
Speaker 2: speech you.

789
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: Have you have the photo of that.

790
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, not like me and you're crazy.

791
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: Like yeah, well all right, before we go, what's your

792
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: what's next for you? What's your wit? You told you

793
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: had you told me that you had a job, and

794
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: I fucking forgot what you said.

795
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 2: It was I assist a painter. I assist one of

796
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 2: my heroes. It is art assistant.

797
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: Okay, nice? What's next for you? What's your big What's

798
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: what's next in your life? William?

799
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 2: Well, there's a there's a little fork like I'm I'm

800
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 2: trying to I'm like, I'm like either gonna go to

801
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 2: art school in Germany. There's a school called like stable

802
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 2: school I'm trying to give into or or if that

803
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 2: if I don't get in I think I'll just like

804
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 2: go like travel, Like I'm like, you know, about to

805
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 2: be fucking thirty, so it's like I want to spend

806
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 2: like if I'm not in art school, you know, sistering

807
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 2: the Thief, then I'm going to just like go like

808
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,919
Speaker 2: travel aimlessly for another year.

809
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: Probably that's cool Africa. It's so funny. I'm like, I'm

810
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: I'm only twenty five, and I'm like feeling like, oh

811
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: am I getting too old to because I did a

812
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: lot of like, you know, I I this this you know,

813
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: this kick that you're talking about of like I want

814
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: to just go to a foreign country and like see

815
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 1: what the fuck is going on and like what maybe

816
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 1: I talk go try to talk to this person I

817
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: wouldn't normally talk to and see where that leads me.

818
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: I was, I was really on that kick when I

819
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: was like twenty and that I was readly on that

820
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: kick a lot. You know, the Gacko got me back

821
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 1: on that kick because the gecko makes doing that stuff,

822
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: you know, a lot, a lot easier because again, you know,

823
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: when I cost people want to talk to me, and

824
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: I also I've excuse me to do it and they

825
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: can film it and put it up there, you know.

826
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great when you confuse the two. That's like

827
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 2: what I've had a hard time finding is like I

828
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 2: love making art, and I'm like annoyingly like I don't know,

829
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 2: like as much as I want to travel, I'm always

830
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 2: like forcing myself. There's this weird part of my like

831
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 2: other brain that like forces me to like sit down

832
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 2: and like do projects and try to like accomplish things.

833
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 2: And it's like somehow I need to learn to I'm

834
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 2: trying to figure out how to respect both of those

835
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 2: forces in my life because they're both seem they both

836
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 2: seem necessary.

837
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too, man, No, me too. I'm I'm I'm

838
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: like you know, I mean, I'm sitting here in this

839
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: studio talking to you, which is located in a place

840
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: like we said, yeah, and it's like I could fucking

841
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: could like go to I don't know, uh uh uh

842
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: Iceland and try to you know, stream from there and

843
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: do my stuff. I mean that's what That's what I

844
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: really want to do, man. I Yeah, yeah, I I

845
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: I loved it, Like I said that that that's gonna

846
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: be kind of my I think I think I want

847
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: it to be. My focus for next year is making

848
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: more of those kinds of videos, because you're right, man,

849
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: there is this like one of the big uh kind

850
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: of back and forth you know, in my head has

851
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 1: been the the desire to sit my ass down and

852
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: create some sort of foundation for my existence and then

853
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: the desire to do the opposite and just you know,

854
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: screw off to somewhere and bop around. But yeah, you know,

855
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,399
Speaker 1: I mean also, you know, especially considering that how how

856
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: imminent our deaths are. Yeah, it's cool, but it's also,

857
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 1: by the way, it's also horrifically depressing. Sometimes, you know,

858
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,760
Speaker 1: sometimes you alone, so like you were saying, dude, it's uh,

859
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you're just alone in Remember I was like,

860
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: I went, I was alone, and uh, Paris is really

861
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: fucking sad on a bench.

862
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it could be really depressing.

863
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was just like, what the fuck am

864
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,439
Speaker 1: I doing right now? But there's something, there's like there's

865
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 1: life in that, you know.

866
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 2: So yeah, absolutely, it's like, yeah, I mean, at the

867
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 2: end of the day, I feel like I've been trying

868
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 2: to like take my focus from like to the present

869
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 2: to the present moment, like just trying to get more

870
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 2: because because ultimately all that ship, like I've done like

871
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 2: like a ship ton of adventures and like had lots

872
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 2: of like pleasure and even like accomplished some cool things

873
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 2: I really wanted to do with art and stuff. And

874
00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 2: it's like it's never it's it's so fleeting, like you

875
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 2: can go to you could go to fucking wherever for

876
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 2: two years and have the time in your life, and

877
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 2: then the thing is it's like over, you know, So

878
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,720
Speaker 2: it's true, and then you're back, You're back where you started,

879
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 2: and that like that never stops, like you'll always find

880
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 2: yourself back in the room just with yourself. And so

881
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to be and and I've spent so

882
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 2: I've wasted a lot of energy and time just like

883
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 2: wanting to be somewhere else and that that that feeling

884
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 2: will chase you everywhere you go and there's nothing like

885
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 2: you have to address it head on.

886
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: It's true. Well that's what I feel like, is when

887
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: you're talking about trying to combine the two, like you know,

888
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: can I build something or be or can I can

889
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 1: I be creating something while I'm on these adventures, you know,

890
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 1: that'll make it seem like I've I've progressed my life

891
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: in some way shape or form, but I you know,

892
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: you know, look, you say you're back where you started,

893
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: but uh, I mean you have progressed your life in

894
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: some way, shape or form. You put yourself out there,

895
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:15,919
Speaker 1: you know a little bit more about the world around you. Yeah,

896
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: you've met No, it's not a waste of time, and

897
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: I think it's a great use of time. But also

898
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: to the to the point of trying to be present.

899
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 1: I was I think I have said this on the

900
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 1: podcast before, so whatever, but I was on a walk

901
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: with my mom the other day and my dog, and

902
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: it was like a sunny day outside, and I was

903
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,439
Speaker 1: just like in my hometown and I remember just thinking

904
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: to myself, like, you know, it was it was. It

905
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: was pretty much the complete opposite of like some crazy

906
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: adventure in a place I've never been to. It's the

907
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: opposite of that, but it was. It was so beautiful,

908
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:52,720
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, if this is the best

909
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: that life gets, this is pretty goddamn good. I could

910
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: spend I could spend the whole lifetime, you know, trying

911
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 1: to to be uh, you know, grateful for just this

912
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: instead of all this trying to be like, what's the

913
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: next crazy thing I can go and do? So I

914
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 1: also struggle with that big back and forth of should

915
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 1: I be happy where I am or should I go

916
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: try and go to fucking Mars.

917
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 2: Well, the funny thing is it's like you might as well,

918
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 2: like while you're not on the trip, like exer, start

919
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 2: exercising that muscle of just like because like a lot

920
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 2: of the best fucking moments in life are literally just

921
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 2: like like being on the bus, like listening to reggae,

922
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 2: staring out the window and you feel really good for

923
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 2: no reason, you know, And it's like that's a lot

924
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 2: of the best moments. They don't like.

925
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: Require like a whole you like do you have do

926
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,760
Speaker 1: you have dreadlocks? I'm imagining you with dreadlocks now.

927
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 2: No, not at all, dude.

928
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:54,959
Speaker 1: What's your name again?

929
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 2: William William? Super nice to meet you, bro.

930
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: Nice to meet you too.

931
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 2: I'll try to go to a live show and meet you.

932
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: I'm coming to Brooklyn. I'm coming to brose sell out so.

933
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,919
Speaker 2: Quick and I'm like so bad at getting it in time.

934
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,919
Speaker 1: This is the fucking the ticket survivable now anyway, whatever,

935
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna make this think about my tour. Okay,

936
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: uh William is good talking to you, man. I hope

937
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: you figure out your stuff. I'll check out. What was it? William?

938
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:24,720
Speaker 1: One two three your.

939
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 2: Way one two three four A box to show my

940
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 2: art and please?

941
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, good talking, you will, good luck and

942
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: fucking praise a lot. Is that what they say?

943
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 3: Oh?

944
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, praise as on the way coon.

945
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 1: All right, man, you take care.

946
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 2: Hi.

947
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: I like that guy. He was cool, made me think

948
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:58,879
Speaker 1: about stuff, made me think about wanting to go out

949
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 1: into the university. I like, you know, I don't know

950
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: the way he was talking about that family and the

951
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: whole experience he had with that guy where he felt

952
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 1: as though that guy's intentions were genuine in a sense,

953
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: even though the circumstances surrounding it were, you know, definitely bizarre.

954
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't I don't think any of

955
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: us will know unless if somebody listening to this is like,

956
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: is lives in that city that he mentioned and he

957
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: was like, this is a thing here. So I don't know,

958
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: but thanks for Sharon William.

959
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 3: Hello, Hey, yo, what's up man?

960
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: How you doing?

961
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 3: Dude?

962
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 1: What's going on?

963
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 3: So there's a lot of going on. Man, I just

964
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 3: got a brain, new job, right, cool and fucked up

965
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 3: my first day how so, so I decide to say,

966
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 3: he fuck it, I'm a smoke on my first date,

967
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:00,240
Speaker 3: which was kind of fuck.

968
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: H okay, what do you do? What do you do?

969
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 3: So? I so? I? So I decided to smoke a

970
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 3: bowl before you know? So, what's word?

971
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 1: What do you What do you do for work?

972
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 3: Oh? I used to work at Wendy's and now I

973
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 3: go as.

974
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 2: Far as from there.

975
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: So all right, so you decided, So you got a

976
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 1: job at Wendy's, and your very first d at Wendy's,

977
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: you decided to smoke a ball before work? Yeah, yeah,

978
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 1: I continue, How did that work out for you?

979
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 3: So? My boss he knows when people are high. So

980
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 3: whenever I got there, all he saw was my eyes

981
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 3: fucking bloodshot red, and I was just fucked. I was like,

982
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 3: oh shit, I got new from the day I got

983
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 3: on there fired.

984
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 1: Do your eyes usually get bloodshot red when you get high?

985
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 3: Yeah?

986
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 1: So you have to understand, if you're the manager at Wendy's,

987
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 1: you have seen your fair share of very high people,

988
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: and so clearly he would know what you would look

989
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 1: like if you were high. And that's where I think

990
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: you made your your most quintessential mistake.

991
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know.

992
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 3: What's like, got there that he knew people were high?

993
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean everybody that he at least seventy five

994
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 1: percent of the people he interacts with on a daily

995
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 1: basis are extremely high. Yeah all right, So uh so

996
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: he just knew? Did you? Did you deny it at all?

997
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 1: Did you just say that, like, I mean, it's allergy season.

998
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: You had a pretty good excuse there.

999
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 3: I did say, yeah, I had allergies. He's like, don't

1000
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 3: fuss the man.

1001
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 1: I'm like shit, so he So it sounds as though

1002
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 1: you resigned to this fairly quickly, like without a fight,

1003
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 1: Like you tried the allergy thing and then immediately you're

1004
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: just like, nah, you're right, I'm high.

1005
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, because he knew I didn't have lergies. Okay, fuck it.

1006
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: I have few questions, you know. I'm also I am

1007
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 1: also guilty of getting high and then immediately being like

1008
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: I should not have gotten high just now. I don't

1009
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: get high before I do this. I've said that a

1010
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: bunch of times. But I will like get high before

1011
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,720
Speaker 1: going to hang out with someone or before going into

1012
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: some kind of setting where I'm like, I don't know,

1013
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: why did I get high before this? Why did what

1014
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:34,399
Speaker 1: inspired you to get high before going into your first day?

1015
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,240
Speaker 3: I just had a real fucking day, like fucking ship

1016
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 3: was going down.

1017
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: Okay, wait what was going down?

1018
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 3: Fucking like my grandpa the other day, just fucking flat out,

1019
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 3: just to the floor.

1020
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:53,280
Speaker 1: He what happened?

1021
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 2: My grandpa fucking died? O day.

1022
00:55:58,360 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: Oh I'm sorry to hear that, man.

1023
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was just like fucking not having this.

1024
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 3: I'm just lookable, okay, and I'll walk into work and

1025
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:11,959
Speaker 3: mash it up. So now I'm out of a job

1026
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 3: that I'm fucking high.

1027
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: So are you high right now?

1028
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1029
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: All right? I kind of figured that do you get

1030
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 1: how often do you high?

1031
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 2: Yeah? Thank you?

1032
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 3: Man?

1033
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: What who who are you talking to?

1034
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:33,720
Speaker 3: Uh no, I'm just talking to you.

1035
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: You said you said thank I asked you, okay, I

1036
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 1: I you know, I feel like it's just like you

1037
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,720
Speaker 1: didn't answer my question, but you kind of did because

1038
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: I asked you how often do you get high? And

1039
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 1: you said thank you man, which in a way is

1040
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 1: an answer to my question.

1041
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 3: So I get high like most of my time, like

1042
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 3: like three times out the fucking week.

1043
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 1: Okay, what do do you are? You do you feel

1044
00:56:58,320 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: like you're trying to escape from reality.

1045
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's mostly the big thing.

1046
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 1: I feel that I do the same fucking thing. Dude,

1047
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: I get high like every day. I'm trying to stop

1048
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 1: doing that. Yeah, are you talking to somebody else? You're

1049
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:16,959
Speaker 1: confusing me right now.

1050
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 3: No, I'm trying to talk to you. But you go

1051
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 3: ahead first.

1052
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: I I I Yeah, I get high all the time

1053
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 1: to escape reality myself. Uh so I understand how to

1054
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: stand where that impulse comes from. What are you trying

1055
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 1: to escape about reality?

1056
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 3: Just the fucking stude, because I originally just stopped smoking

1057
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,959
Speaker 3: like nicotine. Yeah, I was like, you know, I'm gonna

1058
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 3: get off of that like you no, smoke a little

1059
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 3: bit more.

1060
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, mhmm. This is tough. Yeah, I'm gonna do it.

1061
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to do the exact same thing right now.

1062
00:57:55,320 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: Uh uh huh m hmm. What does anything? What else leaves?

1063
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: What else relieves your stress besides just pot?

1064
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 2: Basically just motion? You know.

1065
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 3: A lot?

1066
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, you know what the problem is is.

1067
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 1: I bet getting high and going fishing is awesome. I

1068
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: have no idea what you just said.

1069
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 3: But.

1070
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I think to start to

1071
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 1: start right, I'm not gonna tell you shouldn't get high

1072
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 1: at the time, because I get high at the time.

1073
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:40,439
Speaker 1: But you I think the first step would at least

1074
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: be to establish certain situations where you're like, Okay, this

1075
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 1: is off limits forgetting high.

1076
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 2: This.

1077
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 1: I have done the research I have and and I

1078
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 1: can say with with strong anecdotal evidence, that going into

1079
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 1: my job at when they's high is not a good idea.

1080
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: I have the I have done. I have done the research,

1081
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 1: and I could say with strong anecdotal evidence that's showing

1082
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: up to record this this show and getting high is

1083
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 1: a bad idea. So I don't do that. That's a

1084
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 1: that's a boundary that I have set. But and there's

1085
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 1: other boundaries that I should set, Like I shouldn't fucking

1086
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: need to get high before doing any like going to

1087
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: the grocery store. Right, that's a boundary I should set.

1088
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 1: I haven't set that boundary yet, but I'm working on it,

1089
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: but I have I at least have a firm boundary

1090
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 1: in place of I'm not going to get high before

1091
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 1: I do at least this. Do you have a thing

1092
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: do you have, like, like, is there a thing that

1093
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: you think you could set that boundary for of like Okay,

1094
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 1: if I get another job, let me least, I'll let me.

1095
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 1: I'll once the shift is over. I'm stealing a bunch

1096
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 1: of French fries and getting high as I can and

1097
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 1: sitting in the parking lot for three hours. Do that,

1098
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: But don't get high while you're on the job. Like,

1099
00:59:55,920 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: what's what boundaries can you set? You know what I'm saying? Yeah,

1100
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: I feel what's your next move, sir?

1101
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 3: So my next move? This is just like you know,

1102
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 3: not smoke the words like smoke. So like Wednesday and Saturday. No, okay,

1103
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 3: Saturday and Sunday, smoke on those two days.

1104
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 2: Okay, give.

1105
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 3: It?

1106
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 1: Try Yeah for sure, good luck. It's hard if you

1107
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 1: find if you if you have any secrets that you

1108
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 1: discover on your journey, let me know. I'd love to

1109
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 1: make use of them myself. All right, A man, all right, man,

1110
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 1: you take care of your joy. I don't know what

1111
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 1: are you gonna do after this. I'm curious, Probably gonna

1112
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 1: go on the truck. I have no idea what you

1113
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 1: just said, but that sounds fun. You have a good night, man,

1114
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 1: take care of you too. That guy sounds like he

1115
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 1: was about to overdose on weed. Gempink goes on the line,

1116
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 1: taking your phone calls every night them Pink Kip goes

1117
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 1: through on his ride.

1118
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 3: He's teaching you Cloud.

1119
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 1: And your life.

1120
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 2: Money's not ready, an expert