1 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: I want to go around here and say, what's the 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: best Christmas present you ever died? How would players react 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: if they sat on Santa's Latin? And that turned into 4 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: how would players react if we had a comedian pretend 5 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: to be a disgruntled fan kind of like a bad Santa, 6 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: Like a bad Santa. Vibe the guts, says ravens. Okay, 7 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: filled the Doubs right, No Pepo Bismoli, Welcome into the 8 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: lounge for a huge before a huge game against the 9 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: l A Chargers. I don't think I made a mistake 10 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: of calling San Diego Chargers yet this week I definitely have. 11 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: It's been good. It's weird with the rams I transition, 12 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: like see mostly I never called him to St. Louis 13 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: rams like even like their first year never never struggled. 14 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,559 Speaker 1: But the Chargers, for whatever reason, San Diego was still stuck, 15 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: like on the tip of my tongue. Yeah, I would 16 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: agree with that. I would agree with that. Well, you 17 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: know that's kind of how they feel out in l 18 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: A too, from what I hear. Yeah, exactly think I think. 19 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: I don't think I'm the only one there. Well, I 20 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: could be like Steven A. Smith call them San Diego 21 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: Chargers talking about Hunter Henry Melvin Gordon playing s Johnson. 22 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: It was amazing. It was amazing anyway, or Spencer wear 23 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: big big game coming up, uh and so big and 24 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: on a short week that we were unable to wrangle 25 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 1: a player this week, short week, gotta fly out on Thursday. 26 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: It was tough. We tried. We had a couple of 27 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: guys that we worked that we tried to get onto 28 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: the podcast, but short week is makes a little more difficult. Also, 29 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: guys are backed up on Christmas shopping. We had Willie Steed, 30 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: who's who said he would do it, but he had 31 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: but he was the last minute christ He was like, hey, 32 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: mandain't gonna work. I got Christmas shopping, didn't do it 33 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: today is not gonna work. So as a last minute 34 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: shop for myself, I can empathize with that. What do 35 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: you think he's gonna get us? That's what I said. 36 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: You know, I was wondering what kind of gifts he 37 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: was gonna have a store for us. So alexis I 38 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: mean I start me down with the Rolex. Well, you 39 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: know Joe got the offensive Lineman, that Gatorade. What are 40 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: those things called slurpy slurpee machine. Yeah, it's pretty awesome. 41 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: They've got him in the weight room and it's basically 42 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: got like some gatorade mixing there. But he got that 43 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 1: for all the offensive lineman this year. He does a 44 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: good job with gifts, So hopefully Wally Sneak comes through 45 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: for us. I told Lamar he's gonna have to step 46 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: his game up on the gift giving. Well, he's a 47 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: rookie and he hasn't been started yet, you know, you 48 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: know he was he moved into the starting line up late, 49 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: so it's true. Anyway, with all that said, we have 50 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: an email. As always, you can email us at the 51 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. This one is 52 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 1: a throwback email Garrett that I've dusted off. Dust off 53 00:02:55,600 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 1: this email. This one's from Adrian or Tago Okay, and 54 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: you're gonna see why I'm dust this off. He says, 55 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: first of all, what's this email from? Okay? Yeah, this 56 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: email is from November twenty month ago, pree Thanksgiving. Uh 57 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: And he's first of all says that there are a 58 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: lot of Steelers fans in Mexico City, which is where 59 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: he lives. So it's kind of weird that he's one 60 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: of the only Ravens fans in Mexico, So props to you, 61 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: Adrian Way to hold down the fort down there. But 62 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: he was not very happy when he said this email, like, Okay, 63 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,679 Speaker 1: tisically with you. He said, I just want to tell 64 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: you that I'm a huge fan of the Lounge. I've 65 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: listened to all the episodes since you began with the 66 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: invitation to the God Justin Tucker in the very first episode, 67 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: and I have to be honest with you. Now he 68 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: turns on all caps. I'm very disappointed about the late 69 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: the last episode, especially with Garrett Downing misspells her name, 70 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: which makes me and you're gonna especially with Garrett downing 71 00:03:56,080 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: his comments about the overrated again all caps xptations about 72 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. Okay, this was back when Joe had just 73 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: gotten hurt and we were like talking about should Joe 74 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: be the starter, should Lamar be the starter? And I 75 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: was kind of on the fence at that point. One 76 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: game you were all in. I think had he started 77 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: one game min No Member twenty, yeah, he would. He 78 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: would have started the Bengals game. Bengals Yeah, because I 79 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: wasn't beating a drum for Lamar to be at the 80 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: starter before Joe got hurt, so that it would be 81 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 1: after Joe got hurt, but before, like during the bye 82 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,559 Speaker 1: week when people were like, all right, is I wasn't 83 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: all in until after that Bengals come and Lamar played 84 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: and started, and so just continuing here with our boy Adrian, 85 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 1: He says, it's so ridiculous that the two of you 86 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: are preaching and supporting that the Ravens stick with Lamar 87 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: Jackson the rest of the season just for what he 88 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: was able to do against the Bengals. Yeah, there you go. 89 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: Who are the worst defense in the league. I'm in 90 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: shock that either of you bring Joe Flacco to the conversation, 91 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: to the conversation who was the obvious option to stick 92 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: with and the most valuable player of all our roster. 93 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 1: You can reach the playoffs with Flacco, not with Lamar period. Wow. Yeah, 94 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: So I would love to see what it's Adrian, Right, 95 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: it's Adrian. I would love to see what Adrian has 96 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: to say. Now on December twenty, as Lamar has started 97 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: the last five games, the Ravens are four and one 98 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: during that stretch, probably should be five and oh during 99 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: that stretch, and the defense can can come up with 100 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,559 Speaker 1: a stop in Kansas City and get off the field 101 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: in the late and the fourth quarter. There. Lamar has 102 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: done everything that the Ravens have asked of him, and 103 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: done it well. I think the Ravens are in the 104 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: playoff conversation right now because because of Lamar largely, they 105 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: have lost three straight games before Lamar moved into the 106 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: starting lineup. They have now won four out of five. 107 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: They've gone into an incredibly difficult road atmosphere in Kansas City, 108 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: and like I said, I think they should have won 109 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: that game. And if Lamar goes into Los Angeles and 110 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: pulls off the upset against the Chargers, I think there's 111 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: gonna be a ton of people that all of a 112 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 1: sudden are saying, is this guy maybe could he be 113 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: the best quarterback of his class? I mean, you're gonna 114 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: be having that conversation, Baker Mayfield. I think probably still 115 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 1: would be. But here's gonna be a lot of people 116 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: on Lamar Jackson hype train a lot. And so there 117 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: I jumped on early. I was the I was the 118 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: early you were on. You were on, you were on 119 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: a little bit before me. I was kind of dipping 120 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: my toe into the water. But now we've both been 121 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 1: big Lamar support. What do you guys get these like 122 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: people who tweet at me and they're like, oh yeah, 123 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: Like if you tweet anything critical Lamar, they're like, oh yeah, 124 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. You know, I'm like, dude, you 125 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: are barking up the wrong tree. Man. I am like, 126 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: I am big on the Lamar bus. Yeah, gust bus, 127 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: the gust the Gustus Lamar train. At what point did 128 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 1: you jump on? Um? I was? I was on after 129 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: the Bengals game, Well, your Bengals and then what Raiders 130 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: Bengals definitely on after the Raiders game, I felt. And 131 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 1: then obviously they go down to at Lant and win 132 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: in Atlanta. I think, yeah, after the Raiders game and 133 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: you saw that formula work again. You saw just the 134 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: difference that he made it in the Run the Run game, 135 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: I I thought. And it's not to say that Lamar 136 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: doesn't have his words right now, and he does. I mean, 137 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: there's no doubt about it. And but I think the 138 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: transformation that he has been the catalyst of there's no 139 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: going back from that. Like it's the Ravens are clearly 140 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: a better team the way the way that they're playing 141 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: offense and defense than they were before. I think it. 142 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: I think you put it well, it's how the team plays. 143 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: Like if you're just assessing like quarterback play, Joe might 144 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: still be the better quarterback right now if you're just 145 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: assessing individual quarterback play. But when you look at the 146 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: effect that it has on the entire team, not even 147 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: just the entire offense, but the entire team, lamartion is 148 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: a clear aption. The running game is drastically better. There's 149 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: not obviously as many big players in the passing game, 150 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: but I still think that there is. To me, Lamar 151 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: has been a little bit better of a passer than 152 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: I kind of expected. There's not many opportunities, but that's fine. 153 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: I mean, we all we all were saying with with 154 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: Joe and this offense, We're like, how are they're not 155 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: going to outscore the Chiefs. You're gonna score You're not 156 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: gonna get into a gun running gun game with the 157 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: Chiefs and win that game. The same goes for the playoffs. 158 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: Sames would have the same situation for the Chargers game. 159 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: I think if the Ravens had made the playoffs with Joe, 160 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: had he not gotten hurt, he got they made the playoffs. 161 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: I don't know that they would have beaten any of 162 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: those teams. This style of play gives them the ability, 163 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: I think, to beat those really really good teams. Well, 164 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: you're just making basically taking the script and flipping it 165 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: on its head. Instead of saying, we're gonna try to 166 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: keep up with you, we're gonna try to keep you 167 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: away down, We're gonna slow you down, get a few 168 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: stops on defense exactly, and then run run the ball 169 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: like crazy and get some points at the end of 170 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: his drive. It's like it's three or seven. It's like 171 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: in the NBA teams that go up against the Golden 172 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: State Warriors, if you just try to play fast pace 173 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: and outscore them, you're not going to You're not gonna 174 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: beat them at their own game. Like they have such 175 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: good weapons. The Ravens just can't match their weapons. They 176 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: can't match the Chief's weapons, they can't master the Chargers weapons, 177 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: they can't match on the Steelers weapons Steelers weapons exactly. 178 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: So like to expect him to outperform them offensively, I 179 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 1: think would have been a mistake, right, And I think 180 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: that this defense, what we've seen is a this defense 181 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: is really good, and that's justified. But when they have 182 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: to play eighty five plays a game, you just, by 183 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: nature of fatigue, by nature of more opportunities for great 184 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: quarterbacks to go up against you, you get worn down 185 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: late in games and you're less likely to be successful. 186 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: So now let's cut it down from instead of I 187 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: think if the Ravens in Sunday's game against the Chargers, 188 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: if they can keep it to sixty five plays, I 189 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: think that the Ravens probably win in Kansas City. Kansas 190 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 1: City actually one the time of possession, which I think 191 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: is the only game this year that Lamar started in 192 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: the Ravens lost the time of possession and they also 193 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: obviously lost that game. So if they can flip that script, yeah, 194 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: I think that they're able to come out of there 195 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 1: with winn I got it. Actually an interesting as we're 196 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: talking about this tweet to me and said, if Lamar 197 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: Jackson were to start the whole season instead of the 198 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: final five weeks, do you think he would be a 199 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: real candidate for Offensive Rookie of the Year. I think 200 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: he was kind of robbed of that, robbed of that 201 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: this year because of his stats, they don't measure up 202 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: offensive Rookie of the Year. I mean maybe, yes, I 203 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 1: think he would be a candidate, right, Yes, Baker obviously 204 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: is in that mix. Sax Philip lindsay a pro bowlers 205 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: in that mix. Um, I don't know that. I probably 206 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 1: say he's not the offensive rookie. They'd probably say he 207 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: wouldn't win it. But I do think he would be 208 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: a candidate. I think he would be in that mix. Yes, 209 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: I mean, uh, yeah, it would have been very interesting 210 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: to see Lamar. Now. I don't think Lamar would have 211 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: been if he had started week one as good as 212 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: he was starting in week whatever it was or whatever. Um, 213 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: totally great. Yeah, he needed some time. I mean he 214 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: if he had had just a full developmental year like 215 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: the Ravens planned on, then he would be better coming 216 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: out next year than he was this year. We I 217 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: think we can all see that as a thrower, he 218 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: he needs more work, you know, and and the Ravens 219 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: are gonna continue with that, his mechanics and all that 220 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 1: stuff to improve his accuracy. They're gonna put more plate, 221 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 1: more on his plate in terms of reading defenses, reading 222 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: you know, reading out that stuff, kind of sussing it 223 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: out and making calls. The line and all that stuff. 224 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: Right now, these there, I think the offensive coaches and 225 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: coach Harball have done a great job of giving him 226 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 1: a system that really helps him flourish. It helps him 227 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: succeed because it it maximizes the threat that he brings, 228 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: you know, in the one to punch that he and 229 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: Gus Edwards and kind of Dickson can have. I mean, 230 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: if you go back to the draft, I think everyone 231 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: said at the time the Ravens that Lar Jackson can't 232 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: succeed as an NFL quarterback if can build the system 233 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: around him, right, don't try to just fit him into 234 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: a different system and say, all right, the Ravens random 235 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: system with Joe Flacco, You're now the quarterback, you know, 236 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: one that doesn't maximize his abilities and it doesn't put 237 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: him in the best best position to succeed. And I'm 238 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: glad the Ravens have completely change your offense and built 239 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 1: it around him, and I think that's made a huge difference. 240 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: Last question about Lamar before we move on to a 241 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: couple of guests here. The Ravens media contingent always votes 242 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: on this every year. You vote for m v P 243 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: and the media. Good guy. Let's keep it on the 244 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 1: m v P. Here, who's your Ravens m v P 245 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: this year? I would say the more I would say 246 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: them are like I said, the Ravens have lost three 247 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: straight games. They were on the verge of the season 248 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: kind of getting out of out of reach and not 249 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,719 Speaker 1: making the playoffs. And he's the team is completely transformed 250 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: since he's moved into the starting lineup. He's no doubt 251 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: brought a spark to the team, to the fan base. 252 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: So I think that my vote is a mark. I mean, 253 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: if you go look at other guys that are in 254 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: that mix, who else? I mean, you look at the 255 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: great defense and you could say C. J. Mosley, you know, 256 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: here's somebody on the defense. Here's the issue with giving 257 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: awards the guys on the defense this year is that 258 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: there haven't been a lot of plays made. So it's 259 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: hard to say, like, yeah, they've been collectively a really, 260 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: really good group. I mean, they've been ranked number one 261 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: in the NFL for most of the season, or like 262 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: number two or three. You know, they've been read at 263 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: the top all year long. So if you're saying, like 264 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: consistently over the course of the season, the defense has 265 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: really been the m v P. But who do you 266 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: single out? Yea Marlon c j Eric Weddle songs, right, 267 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: who is it? Who is it? Right? It's hard to 268 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: really put your finger on somebody because there haven't been 269 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: a ton of big plays made. Yeah, I agree. So 270 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: you are also on the Lamar. You would vote for 271 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: Lamar for m VP. But with that said, let's bring 272 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: in another guy who's on the Lamar vand wagon, and 273 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 1: that is Clifton Brown, our staff writer. Alright, Cliffs, so 274 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: let's talk Chargers. Obviously a huge game. We'll start here. 275 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: What's your guts, say Cliff, because we all know everything 276 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: around here. You make all Dessistians with the guts, says 277 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: co Chartball exactly, that's correct, guts, says Ravens. Okay, feeling 278 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: the Dubs right, No pepto bis either, says Ravens. I 279 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: feel much this way, felt as much as way about 280 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: the Chiefs game. That playing a good team, it's gonna 281 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: be a tough game. I think the Ravens a laying well. 282 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: The formula they're using now works against everybody. I feel 283 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,719 Speaker 1: ball control, running the football, and yeah, I expect the 284 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: Ravens to play well. Now you can play well against 285 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: the Charges and lose. But I think they're playing well 286 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 1: enough right now to pull this off. That is the 287 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: awesome part about this offense right now is that you 288 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: can take it everywhere. Like for the first time in 289 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: a long time, you you kind of know exactly what 290 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: to predict, right. I mean, like with with Joe under center, 291 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: you just never knew sometimes you can Joe, you got 292 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: some clunker, certain there's sometimes you've got awesome Joe like 293 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: it just there's unpredictability week to week. Now with a 294 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: run game, it goes on the road, you can run 295 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: it just the same, you know, it's just more reliable. 296 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: It's their identity. That's the word that everybody wants to use. 297 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: The Ravens didn't have one. I think for the last 298 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: two or three years they had trouble finding one. Now 299 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: they do. They've got the number one ranked defense and 300 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: they can run the football. And I think in December, 301 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: when offenses are tired, you see a lot of mistackles 302 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: this time of year. The Ravens have two fresh running backs. 303 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: Belty if Gus is taking a lot of punishment, but 304 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: really he wasn't running the football at all after season, 305 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: and of course Kenneth Dixon he's fresh too. Then you're 306 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: throwing Lamar speed factor and the fact that teams don't 307 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: see this on a regular basis. It gives Jeames problems. Now, 308 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: you know, I think it's curious. You know, Anthony, he 309 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: worked with Greg Roman. He says he knows a lot 310 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: of his running schemes that could help other Charges and 311 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: Derwin James. You know, the possibility of him being a 312 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: guy who can quote unquote spy Lamar Jackson. Interesting matchup 313 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: for the Ravens, you know, the best run defense they 314 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: have faced this season. But it seems like every time 315 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: we say that about Lamar, well let's see if he 316 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: can do this, Let's see if he can do that, 317 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: he doesn't. It's true, It's true. I am interested to 318 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: see what the Churches doing through and James and how 319 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: they use him because he has the athleticism, in the range, 320 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: the tackling ability, I think to give the Ravens some 321 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: problems and I'm curious to see. I'm just interesting to 322 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: see if the Chargers make Lamar throw. Now, that's what 323 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: everybody just wanted to do. Every team has gone in 324 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: and say, if we can stop the Ravens running game, 325 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: then we'll be good. Nobody's been able to do it yet. 326 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: The question is whether the Chargers have a good enough 327 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: run defense to find it to execute that. And uh, 328 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: you know, if I'm the Chargers, I'm leaving I'm leaving 329 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: the Ravens wide receivers one on one all day outside 330 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: just to make Lamar Jackson make that throw and make 331 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: those wide receivers beat your quarterbacks who aren't particularly they're 332 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: good corners. So it'll be interesting to see the game 333 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: plan the Chargers have. I agree with you on that. 334 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: I think that there's a couple of things. One, Now 335 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: Lamar has five games, and so there's five games of films, 336 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: So the element of surprise doesn't exist quite the same 337 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: as it did early on. I guess the Bengals and 338 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: the Raiders and the Falcons now you can see like 339 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: this is what the Ravens are going to do with 340 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: him as a quarterback. So that is the advantage is 341 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: a little bit lessened. As time it takes the field right, 342 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: it gets a little the element of surprises is now 343 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: not existing essentially. Um. With that said, you still have 344 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: to be able to stop it, and teams haven't been 345 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: able to stop it. I do this Charger's defense does 346 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: scare me because they've got good edge defenders. Joey Bosos 347 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: a beast um they've got obviously Derwin James on the 348 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: backend is the other one. Both more both of them 349 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: are great players. So the edge defenders in this when 350 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,199 Speaker 1: you have this kind of an offense, are probably the 351 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: most important players because that's what everything is based off 352 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: on the read. So how does Lamar read it. He's 353 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: gonna be looking at those guys and those are two 354 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: scary guys that you're gonna have to read. So um, 355 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: that is that is what scares me about this defense 356 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: and this team. But I also will say I think 357 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 1: that there's a difference between you look at the stats 358 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: and you say, well, this is one of the best 359 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: running defenses. This Ravens running offense is so different than 360 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 1: traditional running offenses. There's almost like you have to be 361 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: good against the run and then you have to be 362 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: good against the Ravens run. It's like a different subsection 363 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: of a running offense because it's so different. It's not 364 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: like you have the Rams or you just have a 365 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: start running back and Todd Gurley. It's completely different. Yeah, 366 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: here's the thing with the Chargers is they're a very 367 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 1: good team. I don't think they're like world beaters. I mean, 368 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: they probably should have lost the Steelers. They had they 369 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: were down big time in half, they were getting dominated 370 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 1: in the first half. They had a punt return for 371 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 1: a touchdown some kind of crazy. I think it was 372 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: two guys missed the interception and bounce off them and 373 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: keep now and got a touchdown. I mean they've been good. 374 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: I mean the Chiefs game I watched, like they played 375 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 1: well in that game, but they had to come back 376 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: in that game as well. The Charges are a really 377 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 1: good team. I'm not taking anything away from him, but 378 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: I'm also not saying I'm not crowning them. You know 379 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 1: who was it? That's right, you want to crown so 380 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: so I I completely agree. Like I don't know my 381 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,959 Speaker 1: gut feels quite as strong as Cliffs does, but I 382 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 1: think that the Ravens absolutely can win this game. Yeah. 383 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 1: I think people all you know, the Chargers, and like 384 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: every team, they're trying to keep the Ravens in second 385 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: and long, third long. Nobody's been able to do that. 386 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 1: So I think in this game, Women's probably saw the 387 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: Ravens pass a little bit more on first down just 388 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: to get to second and four. I mean, once you, 389 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: I know you, I know you. But if the Chargers 390 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: and I don't understand why, but if the Chargers are 391 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: really going to stack the box and spy Lamar, they 392 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: may put the Ravens position where you gotta loosen them 393 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: up a little bit. And once you get the Ravens 394 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: to second and short, you're not stopping them from getting 395 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: the first down. Not not with this team. And also, 396 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: no one's been able to obviously put the Ravens down 397 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: seventeen points in the third quarter, where no matter what 398 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: kind of defense they play, the Ravens are gonna have 399 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: to throw the football to win the game. And really 400 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 1: the Bengals game and Week two is the last time 401 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: that happen. Yeah. So I mean, since Lamar has been 402 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: starting quarterback, he has a face that's situation where okay, 403 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: he absolutely has to throw. And the only thing I 404 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: could see going wrong in this game for the Ravens 405 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: they would put them in if Rivers got really hot. 406 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: And with the cornerbacks the Ravens have and the way 407 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: they played defense this year, I think that keeps them 408 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: pretty much them getting in that situation that's been another 409 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: key to that Ravens are giving up big plays. They're 410 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: not just getting shredded defensively. You know, teams can move 411 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: to football. Good teams are gonna score, but they're keeping 412 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 1: Lamar out of situations where they've gotten to throw. Cliff. 413 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: I hope that you're right on your overall gut field, 414 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: but I hope you're wrong on the strategy being throw 415 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: on first half. I just I think that like with 416 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: this offense, it's it can be very it could be 417 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 1: kind of appealing to be like, let's loosen them up, 418 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 1: that's throwing first down and catch them off guard. But 419 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 1: to me, I just keep it simple. Teams can't stop 420 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: you from running the ball, thrown the ball, get in second, 421 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: Second and seven to me with this offense is not 422 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: a bad place. Second and eight where this offense, to 423 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 1: me is not a bad place. I don't like second. 424 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: I don't like it second. What do you for on 425 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: a second and eight for second? To ta, Yeah, I 426 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: mean I'm not And I also think that the Ravens 427 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 1: are gonna go for it on fourth down just about 428 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: every single time I think they should. I think you're 429 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: right with that, but I just think particularly against good 430 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: teams at some point they're gonna have to throw it 431 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: a little bit more than they have at some point. 432 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 1: But I think you may improve it. Can they stop 433 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 1: with the run? You may improve it first agree, So 434 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: I think you come out in the first quarter and 435 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: run heavy, and you say, all right, nobody has been 436 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: able to stop it yet, can you guys? If the 437 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: answer is no, keep you look. If you look at 438 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: last week's game, the Ravens kind of came out and 439 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: they sort of try to do what you're talking about 440 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: in the first half. Didn't work. They were done that 441 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:49,959 Speaker 1: against it they did against the Raiders, and then they 442 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: just all right, that's just gonna win the game. Just 443 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 1: don't win the game. I think with the Chargers you 444 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: don't have the luxury of saying, like, let's try to 445 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: feel out this passing game and then just go win 446 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 1: in second half because they're too good. They're better than 447 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,199 Speaker 1: the Box, are better than the Raiders, are better than 448 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: the Bengals. So go out there and just from the 449 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 1: start say we're gonna ground a pound win the game. 450 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: If you guys stop it, then we'll move to the past. 451 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: But not the other way around. You definitely don't want 452 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: to let their pass rushers Bosa and Ingram start teaing 453 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: off that that's not good. That's not a position that 454 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: you want to be in. Before before we let you 455 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: go to the cliff. You know, it is almost Christmas 456 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: time and this is a curve ball. I didn't even 457 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: give you any heads up on this. Nice. I want 458 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: to go around here and say, what's the best Christmas 459 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: present you ever got? Oh gosh, all right, I'll start. Well, 460 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 1: you obviously got one, right, Yeah, I got one. Right, 461 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: I'll start. I'll give you a little time, all right, 462 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: Game Genie? Oh man, you remember game Genie for I 463 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 1: think it was any Yes, I think it was regular. 464 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 1: I think it was super was any answer? I'm not sure, 465 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 1: but it was the thing you put your video game 466 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: in and it unlocked a whole racket cheat codes, like 467 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: like in Mario. You could just fly above every world. 468 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: It was amazing. I remember dreaming. I literally slept for 469 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: maybe ten minutes at night thinking I was that kind 470 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: of what was that like? Gold? Like? Yeah? I think yeah. 471 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: It was like a sleeve and he plugged game in 472 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: first you had yeah, then he stuck that in. Yeah. 473 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: It was great. Gameing was awesome. Let's give me some 474 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: looks over. Here's that game. Yeah, I'm not I didn't 475 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: make it into the Brown household. The only thing I 476 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: can think of is a bike. I got a bike, 477 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: my first non training wheel bike. I think I was 478 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,239 Speaker 1: like seven. And what made that so special was my 479 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 1: dad told me straight up, you're not getting a bike, 480 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: Like I know you want this bike, but you know 481 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: you set the whole thing up, you know, like we 482 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: just can't. You know. My brother, you know, I was 483 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 1: getting something and he said, I just can't. I can't 484 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: pull it off. And I just remember coming out of 485 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: steps and he positioned it so it was right there. 486 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: That's cool. I just never forgotten. I mean, I'm like 487 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: blown away. That was cool. Cool of school, I don't 488 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 1: have as good of a story is that. I think 489 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: mine was. I just loved I love like the a 490 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 1: a sports college football game, and I got that one year, 491 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: and I think I actually, I think it kind of 492 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: became a thing like I would get that like every year, 493 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: you know, like the new one, and then I would 494 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: basically disappear until January one, you know that go down 495 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: to the basement and beyond the game, until I had 496 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 1: to go back to school. That was always I love that, 497 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: and uh I missed it. I miss playing the videos 498 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 1: like that. Cool. I Also, I remember my parents one 499 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: year got real lazy about wrapping the presents and Santa 500 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: did too apparently, and um, and so we came out 501 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: to the treat my brother and I and literally each 502 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: of us had one big box that was wrapped and 503 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: all the presents were just in that box. There's only presents. Cool. 504 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 1: That's an improvising idea, right there. I like that. That's 505 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: a tread center. I can disimagine that night. My parents, like, 506 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 1: we're gonna drink a few beers and it's kind of 507 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: you know some eg we're gonna wrap every So anyway, 508 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna bring it on. Speaking of Christmas, 509 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: we're bringing on Transition, bringing on the brain child of 510 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 1: the Ravens Christmas video. So yeah, all right, let's bring 511 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: them on. All right, now, let's shift gears a little bit. 512 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 1: We've talked enough about the game, but now we want 513 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: to talk about something else that probably a lot of 514 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: Ravens fans saw this week, and that's the Christmas video 515 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: that we put out this week. It's kind of a 516 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: spin off the show and practical jokers, a little bit 517 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: of uh we basically pull some some pranks on our players. 518 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: And we have the mastermind behind that video, Eddie Coglan, 519 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: who works on our department here in Raymins Media. So, Eddie, 520 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: thank you for joining the show. Just a pleasure to 521 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: be here. You're so thrilled. And he was like, we 522 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 1: asked Eddie on and he was like, no, you're serious, Like, yeah, 523 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: come on, So I don't think I think everyone's gonna 524 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: tune out of your podcast here, So I hope it 525 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: doesn't lead off the show. We're gonna lose all five 526 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 1: of our listeners. We're gonna go to five to four, 527 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: you know, down. Yeah, getting Eddie on the show now 528 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 1: basically he may become a mainstay. You know, we're gonna 529 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 1: get a lot of emails to the lounge that ravens 530 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: on NFL dot Net of people saying make Eddie a 531 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: permanent It's more gonna be like, why are you guys 532 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: making our players do this instead of prepare for the game. Actually, 533 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: those are more of them. You're going to get that 534 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 1: actually is what it's gonna happen. So Eddy, just tell 535 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: us how did this idea come together? Was this was 536 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: this your brain child, you take it all the credit. 537 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: I'm definitely not going to take all the credit. You know. 538 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 1: It was it was a group thing. We were sitting 539 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: around and we were talking about, you know what, what 540 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: can we do differently than we've done in the past. 541 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: And we've done the caroling things we've done, you know 542 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: the thing with Wettal a couple of years ago where 543 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: we did he retold a Christmas story and then we're like, 544 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: what can we do differently? And it was basically like 545 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 1: a how would players react if they sat on Santa's lap? 546 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: And that turned into how would players react if we 547 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 1: had a comedian pretend to be a disgruntled fan and 548 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: tell like whisper stuff to them like a bad Santa vibe? 549 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 1: And then we and then we ended on the impractical 550 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: jokers bit with we're try and get two of our 551 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: guys to actually feed him lines about stuff that only 552 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 1: players in the locker room would know about, right, yeah, 553 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 1: And uh so, if you guys haven't seen it yet, 554 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: it's we've posted it everywhere. It's on our app, it's 555 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: on our website, it's on Twitter, it's on Facebook. You 556 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: can see it everywhere, and YouTube. It's on YouTube. You 557 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 1: can see it. You can see it everywhere, and just 558 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 1: the premise of it to kind of describe it if 559 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 1: you haven't seen it yet, is in one room there 560 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: was Santa with a handful of players coming into that room, 561 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 1: and in another room we had Tony Jefferson and Anthony 562 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: Levine watching as the players came into that room and 563 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: feeding lines to Santa two as Justin from Justin from 564 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: Rock I don't know right, So he's a funny guy, um, 565 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: and so they were feeding him lines through an i 566 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: f B. And the players that were sitting on his 567 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: lap had no idea. First of all, getting guys to 568 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: sit on his lap is the funniest piece I think. Yeah, 569 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: they're like that was definitely the hook. That was definitely 570 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: getting him to sit there. And then and then watching 571 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 1: their reactions, I thought Brent Brent's reaction to being called 572 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: America's hat was one of my favorites. Yeah, yeah, it 573 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: was funny too because like some guys when he said 574 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: sit on my lap, so they were some guys just 575 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: went for it. They're like all right, Like Lamar was 576 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: like all right, that sounds good, and then like Marlon 577 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: was like, I don't know about that took him a 578 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: little bit to get. You know. The funny thing is 579 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 1: the original Santa we thought about was you. I heard 580 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: that asking you to do it, but I would I 581 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: would have been a terrible Santa. Yeah, it would be terrible. 582 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: What's your best standing impression? Exactly? Did Bradley Bosman because 583 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: didn't make in the video? Did he actually sit on 584 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: Santa's lap? No? He did, he did. He was sitting 585 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: on Santa's lap in the video. Didn't even watch the 586 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: video the video, I saw him walk in, but I 587 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: didn't say here, clear didn't watch it had to hurt. 588 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: I mean, Boozman is a big dude. Well before Bosman, 589 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: we actually had Michael Pierce and Brandon Williams come in, 590 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: but Levine and Jefferson were still in their meetings. Oh yeah, 591 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: it didn't didn't go smoothly for the first couple and 592 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: we were starting to worry that this was gonna be 593 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: a big floff. Um, at what point did you feel like, Uh, 594 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: first of all, can you just real quickly describe sort 595 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: of like the production piece that went into it, because 596 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: you guys were running around here for like all day 597 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: trying to figure out you had sort of the reveal 598 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: piece to it on the video boards, different room, Like, yeah, 599 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: I mean we had you know, we had four cameras. 600 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: I think we had six or seven mics up. We 601 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: had about eight people just trying to wrangle players. That's 602 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: what that was my job, wrangle guys. Yeah, well, everyone 603 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: had their part, and without without everyone doing it, we 604 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: wouldn't have gotten anyone down there. Team guy here, you know, 605 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,959 Speaker 1: the team, the team, the team. But yeah, that's us 606 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: about two days to figure out. It was. Yeah, a 607 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: big production, one of the one of the weirder things 608 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: we've done here. So what was your favorite moment that 609 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: did not make the video? Um? I don't know if 610 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: I can, I don't know legally say this is a 611 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: legally say. Um, you know, Brandon, Brandon Williams gave us 612 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: a line to feed Michael Pierce and uh and without 613 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: the big reveal on the video boards, that did not 614 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: go over well because then it was just a random 615 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: guy saying insulting things to Michael Pierce, who you you 616 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: don't really want to make angry and did get he's 617 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: like one of the nicest guys on the team. Yeah, 618 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: I think we pushed him kind of far and without 619 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: without the reveal of seeing your teammates back there. That's 620 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: why that did not make the final pieces. Can we 621 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: say about Marlon that, you know, he got into a 622 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: little off the field trouble, little incident this best off 623 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: season and that was the butt of the joke oh 624 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: with Marlon. Yeah, we we ventured into that territory that 625 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: didn't didn't make the final cut. Right. Well again, it's 626 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: it's really funny, really well done, and it's up, like 627 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,479 Speaker 1: I said, everywhere. You guys probably have seen it by now, 628 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: but if you haven't, go ahead and check it out. 629 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: Really what good Eddie, Thank you sir, Thanks for join 630 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: supposed it that bad? No, no, no, it was great. 631 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: It was great, all right, So thank you to Eddie, 632 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: Thank you to Cliff and uh that was fine. Yeah, yeah, 633 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: good stuff. Uh so now heading out to l A 634 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: for a. Are we doing it? Are we doing it? Stop? 635 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: Look at your friend? Are we doing No, We're not 636 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: doing It's gonna be a big win. It's gonna be 637 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: a big win. It's gonna be a nice solid win 638 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: and nice solid win against the Los Angeles Chargers. I 639 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: want to make it the playoffs so bad. Anyway, Thank 640 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: you for listening. As always, you can read us at 641 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. Uh, can 642 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: we before we close one last thing? If the Ravens 643 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: make the playoffs, we're making noise, baby. This is a 644 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: big game. Either you don't make the playoffs. If you 645 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: don't win this game, you might be out. If you 646 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: win this game, you might be in and you might 647 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: run the table. Oh, I like to talk about right 648 00:31:55,760 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: table next week, when fully the Ravens are still in 649 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: this playoff. James, thanks for listening.