WEBVTT - NLP LIVE at City Winery Atlanta 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.720 Natively and pot is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:03.960 with Reason Choice Media. 0:00:04.240 --> 0:00:06.560 Nobody knows the troubles I've seen. 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:16.400 Welcome Home to That was pretty terrible. I had dreams 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:19.040 coming out to an audience he's a hater, and that 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:21.920 was not what I expected. I wanted people standing up, 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:24.079 walk off stage real quick, Andrew, I got a court 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:24.680 walk off stage. 0:00:24.720 --> 0:00:26.160 No, no, no, this is the compromise. 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:30.200 We're actually going to bring on a third special host 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:34.520 tonight and maybe y'all give that person a little more love. 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:36.479 But let me let me just say before we get 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:39.640 too far into this one, it is a complete pleasure, 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:42.800 joy privileged to be in the great state of Georgia. 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:44.520 Uh. 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:47.360 My mother lives in Georgia, was born in Georgia. Down 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:50.400 in South Georgia. Valdosta is where she's at. Uh, but 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:53.479 raised in this area called Clydesville. I actually don't know 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:55.240 if it's Clyettesville, the Clydesville. 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:56.840 You know they're not in here. 0:00:57.040 --> 0:01:00.760 Yeah, But the point is is that they are watching Bacari, 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:05.240 which a rude ass. Anyway, I just wanted to say 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:07.800 we are down one of our co hosts today, Angela 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:10.480 Raie and she wanted to be here with everything in 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:14.080 her But the day before yesterday, her father had to 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:16.800 go to the emergency room and they discovered some issues 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:20.360 that required her him going into surgery today. And so 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:23.959 she's back in Seattle with her family, tending to her parents. 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:28.120 But right now and touch. 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:31.760 And agree, we will simply invoke God have your way, 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:33.440 and we know what will be perfect. 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:36.400 Man man, amen, amen, amen. I love that. So one 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:37.199 of the things that. 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:42.399 We remember about Angela most importantly is that she actually 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:44.280 thought that Florida and M University. 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:45.080 Isn't that what it's called. 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:46.319 No, sir, you wouldn't know. 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:50.120 And Morehouse College had a rivalry, and what I kept 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:51.720 telling me, we didn't have a rivalry there. 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:54.520 Val I do want. 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:58.840 Anyway, So I want everyone who's in the room who 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:01.120 actually went to an HBC, you just to clap really 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:03.840 quickly so people know that you all are in here. 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:04.360 Thank you. 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:06.880 And for everybody else who didn't go to an HBC. 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:08.800 You will go to the next topic, which is to 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:11.520 bring on. What we want to do is make sure 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:14.920 that everybody knows that we have a host who uh 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:18.480 was She actually was here before I was. 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:21.520 She sure was a four hundred episodes. 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:23.760 For a four hundred episodes, and there is a little 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:26.639 thing on Wikipedia right now this says she left because 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:29.640 I came. So I'm glad that we are going to 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:32.359 be able to address that today. But she was phenomenal 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:35.600 in MSNBC. She's a New York Times best selling author. 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:37.920 She has another book out right now, none other than 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:38.560 Tiffany Kraus. 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:44.800 Welcome Home to the Natives. 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:48.560 Leaning on the podcast, face everybody. 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:51.640 Did you can we get a thank you for all 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:54.519 the priming we did for your standing ovation in the room. 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:55.960 I know they ain't even clap for us. 0:02:56.680 --> 0:03:00.320 I mean after Bacari kicked me off the podcast, that 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:01.000 you can do. 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:01.800 There's that. 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:04.200 I just told everybody I was Beyonce and that we 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:06.840 had a pharaoh, and we realized who Pharaoh was as 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:07.919 soon as she left the group. 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:09.160 I didn't even know. 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:09.679 Who Pharaoh was. 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:11.760 Hey, I'm gonna say this is the d I'm gonna 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:13.679 just give a little brief lesson on the dangers of 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:18.239 AI because on my last show I said this being silly, 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:21.280 I was like, well, when Bakari joined, he said, he's 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:24.120 Beyonce and there can only be one Beyonce in this group, 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:26.800 and so he put it in his contract that I 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:30.760 had to leave when he came. Because AI cannot detect 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:34.760 sarcasm when you google dwhy did Tiffany leave native Land? 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:36.320 That was the answer that came up. 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:37.280 Yes, it came up. 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:39.600 People wouldn't see me out and they were like, gird, 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:42.960 can't believe Bakari, And I was like me either, me either. 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:44.800 So I have haters I didn't even know. 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:47.360 But know the good news is you had haters before, 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:49.560 but now they have a reason, Bakari to hate all 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:51.880 you think. No serious note, I also know that we 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:54.520 have some maybe less famous people to you to the 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:57.800 audience here, but very famous to me. My dad's sister, 0:03:57.880 --> 0:04:01.360 my aunt Patricia Gilham Sam's is here with my cousin 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:06.720 La Laura and Blake and Sage and missus Sam. So 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:09.200 I just want to thank them because I am because 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:09.560 you are. 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:12.040 So can I give a quick shout out? You must 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:15.440 please A dear, dear, dear friend of mine who is 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:18.960 now mister popular in Atlanta. But Joelan Martin is a 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:22.080 representative with Remy Martin and he I've known him my 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:24.520 entire life. He is my family. 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:26.600 Oh I mean remy family. 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:31.960 Oh Remy Martin Gartree roomy for everybody. He is here somewhere, 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:35.160 I think somewhere in the back table. But he has 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:37.960 known me my whole life since I was fifteen. So 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:40.560 when you see him doing promoting events out for Remy Martin, 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:42.920 show him some love. Thank you, Joelan, wherever you are. 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:44.600 We are nothing without all of you all. 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:48.080 Absolutely amazing thing is when when black folks try to 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:53.000 do things in black spaces, it becomes really really interesting sometimes. 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:57.560 And so on a It's what night, Tuesday, on a 0:04:57.600 --> 0:04:59.880 Tuesday night for all of you all to be here, 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:03.839 I just want to say that with ay tickets. My 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:05.800 mom and dad would always tell me the two most 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:08.440 important words in the English language are the words thank you, 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:12.760 and they're not nearly said enough. And so before we 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:15.760 begin tonight's pod, I just want to simply say thank you, 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:19.040 thank you for your time, and thank you for your treasure. 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:23.080 And in the words of the great American poet Dwayne 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:26.960 Carter also known as Lil Wayne, we ain't shit without y'all, 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:29.239 and so thank you so much. 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:30.159 For all like you all being here. 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:34.720 Y'all have a seat, so we actually one of the 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:36.400 things we want to talk about first is and one 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:39.720 of the things since Tiffany is here is the first 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:43.159 I called it the five and a half year point 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:45.640 and Andrew and I got into a fight in the 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:47.400 car on the way over here because it fam they 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:50.000 don't know how to do math, but you're a joke. 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:52.120 Five and a half years. 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:55.200 Of Donald Trump, and I wanted to hear because many 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:57.240 people don't realize like that, that's been five and a 0:05:57.279 --> 0:06:01.919 half years of consistently, every single day just being beat 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:04.920 down and put upon by the news that's coming. 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:08.520 Before you go. I want to defend my math. First 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:10.760 of all, it hasn't been a five consistent years. Oh 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:13.080 my god, it was broken up by four years of Biden. 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:18.599 But really, the thought I had was Donald Trump one 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:22.080 point zero has turned out to be He's got all 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:25.000 the awfulness that was there the first time, but now 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:28.000 he has the mechanisms, the levers of the government. The 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:31.920 people who are willing to be sick aphantic committed simply 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:34.480 to him and not to the Constitution, not to their olds, 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:38.160 not to the country on its two hundred and fiftieth birthday. 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:41.000 And so I think two point oh. 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:45.440 Trump is exceptionally more dangerous because he's he is I 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:48.680 think there is a mental situation that that needs to 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:50.760 be worked out. I think there is some issue of 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:53.760 aging just ohd. But more importantly, now it's not just old, 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:58.240 it's old and henre and more than that, dangerous when 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:02.040 you're so hateful and at his court, he's hateful and 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:03.880 so now that he doesn't have to care about public 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:08.000 opinion anymore, I think the next two years, Donald Trump 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:11.680 now a deer in the headlights, with Democrats hopefully winning 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:18.600 back control. Dictators before they die, do their most extreme work, 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:22.880 their most dangerous work, their most terrifying work. And so 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:25.360 I just think we ought to prepare ourselves for what's 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:27.720 still to come, because if Democrats flipped the House and 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:30.440 the Senate, y'all, we got another thing coming up with 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:33.280 this president, he's gonna he's going to take action and 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:34.320 ask questions later. 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:36.840 So thank you for showing us how you did math 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:38.800 and narrator, he did not show up. 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:40.200 I did do math five. 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:42.520 But what I would what I wanted to do is 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:44.440 ask Tiffany, like over the last year and a half, 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:47.239 I mean, we My dad always says the difference between 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:50.840 Donald Trump and Richard Nixon is that Richard Nixon had 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:54.920 shame and Donald Trump has none, all right, And so 0:07:56.200 --> 0:07:58.320 what over the last what are the highlights and low 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:00.040 lights over the last year and a half, because we 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:01.400 both of y'all, that's what I want to know. What 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:03.800 have you seen that has shocked the conscience? What have 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:06.320 you seen that's been like hmmm? And what do you 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:08.760 look forward to over the next year and a half 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:10.760 before we get to the elections or half a year 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:12.680 before we get into the next election cycle. 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:19.760 So I think the highlight has been the unmasking. I 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:22.840 think there's not a lot of surprise to us. We've 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:25.920 always known and this is not anything new to the country. 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:27.880 I hate when I hear people say this is not 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:30.760 who we are, this is not America. It's actually pretty consistent. 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:35.520 Even a modest student of American history understands how consistent 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:40.560 it is. The challenge, though I have kind of putting 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:46.720 this in the highlight, is it has tapped into our 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:49.680 imagination in a lot of ways because I hear you 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:53.640 Andrew like, oh, let the Democrats take control again. And 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:55.760 I don't know if I'm on that anymore. You know, 0:08:56.080 --> 0:09:00.000 I am not too keen to save something that never 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:01.680 really served us in the first place. 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:04.679 And that's not what It's not. 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:07.760 The Democratic Party, but it is democracy itself because Donald 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:12.720 Trump was elected through a democratic system. When Roe was overturned, 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:16.559 that happened through a democratic system. So when you're navigating 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:20.520 this space with people whose beliefs are rooted in your 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:24.280 oppression and destruction, I don't know how we coexist with 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:28.560 those people in a democratic society. Now, obviously this means 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:32.040 we have to go out and fight on every front. So, yes, 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:34.000 we have to go out and vote, Yes we have 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:35.920 to go out in canvas. Yes we got to write 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:38.760 a check when we can. But I wonder, okay, so 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:42.000 if Democrats get control, then what we gonna do with it? 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:48.079 Because you see now never Trumpers, well named never Trumpers, 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:54.720 posting things like abolish ice. Now, there was a wing 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:57.160 of the Democratic Party when that was happening. They didn't 0:09:57.240 --> 0:10:00.400 like that. And so now when you see never Trumper's this, 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:03.640 and certain people in the Democratic Party, it is appalling. 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:06.880 I am pissed off about it because you're like, oh, 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:10.360 so it wasn't such a radical idea, It wasn't so 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:13.760 bad when we were out there screaming this on the streets. 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:16.200 I think in the Democratic Party, you still see the 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:19.800 suppression of black women and other black voices when it 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:24.000 comes to who's getting a contract to help you reach community, 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:28.000 community validators, when it comes to who's getting backed, when 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:30.120 it comes to who they think is a viable candidate. 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:32.760 And as Black women, I have to say, we are 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:36.200 so tired of that shit. Right now. It feels like 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:39.080 we are still begging to be heard, begging to lead 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:43.600 in a space that routinely mutes our voices and dismisses us. 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:46.800 So looking at all the lows of Donald Trump, it 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:50.200 has pierced for me something in my spirit. Where I 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:53.719 look at what's happening, nothing is a surprise because we 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:57.160 already saw it's really to correct both, y'all, math it's 0:10:57.200 --> 0:10:59.760 been ten years, because he came on the scene in 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:04.880 sixteen and has been a terror ever since. And so 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:07.960 when I look at there's no surprise, and I look 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:10.200 at this isn't I'm not a Kamala Harris Sika fan. 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:13.760 But she was a well qualified candidate, the most qualified candidate. 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:17.559 And when I look at you saw this half witted 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:21.280 idiot and said I would rather vote for him than her, 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:24.880 it makes me question, y'all really hate us, You really 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:28.680 hate us, So I'm a little disheartened and heartbroken. So 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:32.120 I don't really have highlights other than like, I don't 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:34.439 know y'all in this room, but I know every single 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:36.800 last one of y'all in this room, and so I'm 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:39.520 blessed to be part of a community because where I 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:42.440 see y'all, I feel safe, and I think this environment 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:44.319 has highlighted that for me more than anything. 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:47.960 I don't applause to that because I don't know that 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:51.880 I have a point of disagreement about your analysis on 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:55.439 where the country has failed. But in two hundred and 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:59.120 fifty years, a country, to quote angela ride that was 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:02.280 built by us for free, is not one that we 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:05.400 should just let folks gallivant around and celebrate and take 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:08.480 no part in appreciating the role that black folks have 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:14.000 contributed to bending the arc of justice a little more 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:17.280 our way. And while it's not perfect, it's absolutely not perfect. 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:19.160 It'd be hard to wake up doing this work, working 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:24.319 every day in a system that yes, rejects you, doesn't 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:29.760 like you, figures out ways to create quicksand for every 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:34.079 step that we take. But there are wrinkles in this 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:37.320 thing where we've seen moments where we have been able 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:38.120 to thrive. 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:40.559 Where we can think long enough to just take a. 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:44.520 Deep breath and say, who, I'm so glad that this 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:48.000 isn't yesterday, but I'm still hopeful that tomorrow will be better. 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:49.840 I know that I rejoice in. 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:52.320 The fact that coming from where I came from, with 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:54.920 the my mother and my father and the way they 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:57.000 had to work, and the way I in which I 0:12:57.120 --> 0:13:01.360 saw their lifestyles rejected, and then to have a son 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:05.079 go on and be the first of their kids to 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:07.640 graduate from high school and then go on to college 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:10.680 and compete for the highest office in the land in Florida. 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:12.280 I know that there are steps. 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:15.120 We didn't get there, but there's steps, and there's cracks, 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:17.280 and their folks will come by and us and do better. 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:22.520 What I'm hopeful for about twenty twenty six is that 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:25.800 I'm not being a cheerleader for the Democrats. But what 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:29.080 I do want is somebody who's going to put handcuffs 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:33.640 on the Trump administration based off of the lawlessness that. 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:35.720 They exhibited over these last four years. 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:38.880 Every candidate who is running for office, we have to 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:42.760 ask them, because Democrats are terribly afraid of saying, oh, 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:45.800 we're gonna impeach and oh, we're going to investigate because 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:48.720 they're afraid they'll lose Republicans if they say we're going 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:51.880 to hold them accountable. But you cannot get my vote, 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:53.720 I will show up at a poland I will vote 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:56.680 at blank ballot if I can't hear from you that 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:59.880 you believe one hundredth one thousand percent in account of 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:04.160 and these next two years must be committed to holding 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:07.000 these people accountable. If we don't do it, y'all, if 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:10.560 they don't in Congress, lock some people up, and there 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:12.000 are a lot of them to be locked up. 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:13.600 If they don't claw back some. 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:16.440 Of the money, they'll monuments called clause where the president 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:20.280 has taken just the grift. His family's getting richer and 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:23.760 richer by the billions. Well, everything that we have to 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:25.880 go and pay for in a grocery store costs more money. 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:29.840 They're over there, his son don't even work for the government, 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:33.360 is negotiating a peace treaty on the behalf of who 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:37.120 And we wonder why the peace treaties keep failing. Then 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:39.120 the president comes out and makes a positive statement and 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:42.240 the markets go crazy and they get another winfall of money. 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:45.040 So I'm just saying if folks don't go to jail, 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:47.600 that's how I could be. I'm not a Democrat and 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:49.600 two twenty eight, but as if we don't lock some 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:50.120 people up. 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:05.000 I hear you, and I think that I'm a little 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:07.640 bit more firm than both of you guys in my stands, 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:10.640 not saying that you're wrong, because I would just footnote 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:12.080 both of the things that you all say. 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:17.600 But elections are about choices. I don't I don't. 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:20.120 I don't think people fully grasp but that when you 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:23.440 go to that ballot box and most elections you have 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:28.800 an A or a B. Right, And I know that 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:32.400 the weariness that we have is that black folk in 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:36.600 this room, regardless of where we come from or our 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:42.680 plot in life, are usually voting to mitigate harm. Of course, 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:47.120 that's that is how we vote, That's how we approach voting, right, 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:49.840 I mean, And that's an unfortunate stance. One of one 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:51.480 of the things that I've always told people is that 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:53.760 one of one of my goals in life is to 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:56.720 make sure that black folks can get out of out of. 0:15:56.720 --> 0:16:01.520 Saying the word survive and begin to say the word thrive. 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:04.400 Like that's where I want us to be and I 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:09.400 recognize the difficulty because Tiffany articulated that, like I don't 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:12.120 have and I call names and because I don't care, 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:15.800 but I don't have the utmost faith in the King Jefferies, right, 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:18.680 I just he doesn't for me. It doesn't when I 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:20.480 take a shower at night and I'm in this singing 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:23.160 Joe Deasy to show to after party in the hotel, 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:23.920 like I'm. 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:28.160 Not thinking about how y'all don't know that album next next. 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:31.000 Okay, anyway, so I'm not thinking about how King Jefferies 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:32.920 is going to take me to the Promised Land. 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:35.640 Like that's not that's not my my goal. 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:37.080 On line, I don't think we should be by the 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:40.000 way b I think we make a mistake when we 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:43.440 keep casting individuals but are safe. 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:45.440 But see, my goal is different. But my goal is different. 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:47.880 I don't I don't have a Messiah complex, which is 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:50.200 what a lot of black folks have. And I'm talking 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:52.640 to us, like a lot of us have this complex 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:54.520 where we're waiting on the next great We're waiting on 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:57.840 Barack Obama like democrats, Black folk, we had this thing 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:00.640 where we're waiting on Barack Obama, waiting on JFK. Worriiting 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:03.560 on this person like a codal personality. I'm not waiting 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:07.359 on that. My goal is very simple because I firmly 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:10.520 believe that every ounce of change we've ever had in 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:13.160 this country has been because of black blood that flowed 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:15.880 through the streets. And when I say that, I'm talking 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:18.160 about like sixty four to sixty five Voting Rice Act 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:20.200 is because white people were able to see us get 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:21.560 beat on the Edmon Pettus Bridge. 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:22.120 Right. 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:25.159 The sixty eight Fair Housing Act is all because LBJ 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:28.240 had to do something with black folk because they saw 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:31.639 King get assassinated. In South Carolina, we didn't have a 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:34.359 conversation about the Confederate flag until nine people, including my 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:36.440 friend Clym, were killed in a church. 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:37.280 Right. 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:40.119 You don't have a conversation about criminal justice reform unless 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:43.359 you have Danella Fraser, black woman seventeen years old, takes 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:45.960 her camera out and sees George Floyd with a knee 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:48.119 in the back of his neck for over nine minutes. 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:51.879 So I'm very cognizant of the fact that the price 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:55.720 for change for black people in this country is really, 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:58.760 really high. And what I'm trying to do with my 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:04.000 life is dry that cost down and so that's how 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:06.560 I kind of look at the political spectrum, like what 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:09.639 is going to make Sadie and Stokely have to not 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:16.560 pay what Abraham Lincoln call kind of the the the 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:21.679 ultimate price of our angels in order to have the 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:24.440 change that they deserve. And so I'm just trying to 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:27.480 cost drive the cost of change for black folk down. 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:29.639 And I think that that is why I see it 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:32.639 more clear eyed in terms of the alternatives we have 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:36.159 at the ballot box while trying to hold Democrats accountable. 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:44.080 For me, it's a very easy choice under most circumstances. 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:47.040 For a lot of people, is not an easy choice 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:50.840 when they compare that My life was in heale before, 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:55.040 it's been inhale through Democrats, and I'm not sure what's 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:56.359 going to change after them. 0:18:57.320 --> 0:18:58.000 And for the. 0:18:57.920 --> 0:19:00.640 First time, I'm prepared to lean a little bit in 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:02.720 into that reality that a lot of folks lives, they 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:06.960 don't don't experience tangible at home changes in their lives, 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:08.760 meaning it didn't get radically better. 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:10.159 No, no, no, let me just finish this one. 0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:13.520 It didn't get radically better when Democrats were in charge 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:16.040 of the House, Senate and the presidency. We still were 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:21.240 mitigating against harm because the political climate didn't create room. 0:19:21.080 --> 0:19:24.000 For we webs because you didn't get a single payer system. 0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:27.200 No still have you still have people who you still 0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:29.840 have for example, you still have rural health care systems 0:19:29.840 --> 0:19:31.919 that are able to thrive. You still have to get it. 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:33.719 Who are able to be on their healthcare to their 0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:35.959 the age of twenty six, I get it. There are 0:19:35.960 --> 0:19:39.000 women in this room that had C sections and those 0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:41.919 were considered to be pre existing conditions and they were 0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:44.080 excluded from getting health care that now can get health 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:47.159 care because of what we now call Obamacare, they call 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:48.080 the Affordable Care Act. 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:51.280 Right, but the a lot of things that we often 0:19:51.359 --> 0:19:54.280 give them from Washington is not what they are actually 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:57.399 asking for. So we've got We've seen people who send 0:19:57.560 --> 0:20:00.359 millions or billions from down from the federal government, and 0:20:00.359 --> 0:20:01.040 the folks say. 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:03.359 I didn't need a check, I needed a job. I 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:04.439 wanted the opportunity. 0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:06.679 I needed you simply to take your foot off my 0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:08.959 neck and open the door and I can go in 0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:11.440 and do the work. Most black men I was talking 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:13.600