Speaker 1: Alright, this is Chase ut Lee. This is the Phillies Show.
Speaker 1: Chase Utley going on the Phillies Wall of Fame on
Speaker 1: Friday Night. But the Phillies Show, Ruben, tomar Junior, Jim Salisbury,
Speaker 1: Todd's a lucky We're going to talk open today's show
Speaker 1: talking about Louis Arise. It is time four hour Monster Moment.
Speaker 1: Monster Moment is powered by Monster Energy. Louise Arise. Guys,
Speaker 1: three games, got a hit in every game, got an
Speaker 1: RBI in every game. And I was just curious. So
Speaker 1: on Thursday night, I asked Sarah Langs at MLB dot COMICG,
Speaker 1: when's the last time a Phillies player has done that
Speaker 1: in his first three games with the Phillies. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you guys saw my tweet. Jim, you're always
Speaker 1: on Twitter, did you see it.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna look for it right now. You're gonna look
Speaker 2: for it right now.
Speaker 1: Let's let's Ruben, you can check out. We'll be back
Speaker 1: in twenty minutes.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Last Phillies player to do that a hit in his
Speaker 1: first three games in RBI, in his first three games
Speaker 1: since Mike Benjamin. Wow, Mike Benjamin in nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 3: He was my teammate. He was your teammate. That's right,
Speaker 3: I played in nineteen ninety six, right.
Speaker 2: That's right. He's Arise is giving him the lead in
Speaker 2: three straight games, the early lead.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Arizona State Universities, Mike Benjamin. I played against him
Speaker 4: when I was there in college too.
Speaker 3: There you go, U.
Speaker 2: From the Giants, right, he came from moost Heatings.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, yes, sir, as as did Louise Arise.
Speaker 2: Wow what a segue.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: So what do we think of Louis A Rai's first
Speaker 1: three games? You know, when we got him, uh or
Speaker 1: the Phillies got him, we talked about where we thought
Speaker 1: he would hit in the Phillies lineup, and we all said,
Speaker 1: I mean leadoff, He's gonna hit leadoff. I mean there's one, two,
Speaker 1: one or two, and then Don Manley hits him cleanup.
Speaker 1: What do we think of the new cleanup hitter.
Speaker 2: I'm fine with it. It gives people something to argue about.
Speaker 2: But you know, Don talking the other day, mentioned what
Speaker 2: you've mentioned a lot, Todd, is that lineup optimizer. When
Speaker 2: you run it all throughout a year, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: You just put your nine best players in there, and
Speaker 2: it's generally going to be you know, within like a
Speaker 2: half a run over one hundred and sixty two game season.
Speaker 2: But you know, I think this merit to his thinking.
Speaker 2: He wants contact behind Harper, he doesn't want strikeouts behind Harper,
Speaker 2: and this guy's numbers with runners and scoring position are
Speaker 2: like historic, and what we've seen the first three nights
Speaker 2: kind of validate that he's come up with men on base.
Speaker 2: One of the things Don talked about, I mean that
Speaker 2: first night, that first game, Don said, you know, hoping
Speaker 2: he comes up with runners on first and second. A
Speaker 2: few times both first at bats, his runners are first,
Speaker 2: first and second and he drives in the run. So
Speaker 2: I'm fine with it. It's worked so far. Maybe he
Speaker 2: tinkers here and there, but I'm fine with it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I didn't agree with it, but it's
Speaker 4: working and whatever works, and I think he'll stay with
Speaker 4: it for a while.
Speaker 3: It looks like Schwarber's.
Speaker 4: Finally sort of getting out of his funk. It's been
Speaker 4: a while since he's been productive, had a really tough July.
Speaker 4: I mean since July first, he's been sort of terrible,
Speaker 4: only has like, you know, maybe six or seven extra
Speaker 4: base hits, like three home runs. So listen, He's Arises
Speaker 4: injected some serious energy into that lineup. Man. I talk
Speaker 4: about him as if he was like Juan Soto without
Speaker 4: the power. He has the ability to stay in there
Speaker 4: in his bats.
Speaker 3: He has. He has plate presence. I love the plate presence.
Speaker 4: Listened to Dave Winfield years go talk about how important
Speaker 4: it is to to show the pitcher how much you
Speaker 4: dominate in that box. It's your box. He shows people
Speaker 4: that that's his box. That's you're You're not going to
Speaker 4: make a pitch on me that is going to get
Speaker 4: me out, or there's not a pitch that I can
Speaker 4: You know that that I can't handle, that you can throw.
Speaker 4: The impressive thing, the most impressive thing that I've seen
Speaker 4: so far. Since he has been a Philadelphia Philly, he
Speaker 4: has not swung and missed the baseball, not one time.
Speaker 4: He's either fouled it all or put it in play
Speaker 4: every time he swung the bat. Now it's I'm not
Speaker 4: sure how many swings.
Speaker 1: It is, twenty twenty eight swings. Ruben twenty eight.
Speaker 4: Twenty eight swings, and we had that stat was twenty prior.
Speaker 3: My man Eric Nenneth during the game yesterday, who is
Speaker 3: a pr guy for us for slugball. I'll plug that later.
Speaker 4: He he pointed it out to me, and that's a
Speaker 4: pretty astounding number. I don't know what and whether they've
Speaker 4: tracked it or whether it's a something that's a record,
Speaker 4: but I can't imagine that anybody would ever have surpassed that,
Speaker 4: coming from one team to another the first whatever, however
Speaker 4: many games to uh not swing and miss at a pitch,
Speaker 4: it's insane.
Speaker 2: That's his game. I mean, he's that way wherever he's been,
Speaker 2: but certainly it's peak right now.
Speaker 1: He's got the best whiff rate in baseball. He swings
Speaker 1: and misses only seven point seven percent of the time
Speaker 1: on all swings. That's best out of two hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty hitters with five hundred swings this season. So when
Speaker 1: you see him miss, swing and miss at a pitch,
Speaker 1: you're shocked. You're shocked.
Speaker 2: But the energy is the energy is huge. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: some of it comes from he he has that effervescent personality,
Speaker 2: that love of the game and that rubs off on people,
Speaker 2: but she also comes from offense. And every time he's
Speaker 2: in that box, like you mentioned, he's a threat to
Speaker 2: do something to contribute to to scoring a run. So
Speaker 2: that's that's really good to see. I think this team
Speaker 2: needed that because there's a lot of punch outs, there's
Speaker 2: a lot of dead innings, and they needed something like that,
Speaker 2: something to give them a little jolt of energy, because
Speaker 2: at times, I thought in July of times they really
Speaker 2: looked kind of kind of dead at times.
Speaker 3: So got kind of dead dead ass, dead ass.
Speaker 2: The great baseball term dead ass, and he's given them
Speaker 2: a little pick up.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, but the most important thing about this
Speaker 4: Jim is his nickname.
Speaker 3: His nickname is the sprinkler.
Speaker 4: And I will tell you that for Yeah, it's actually
Speaker 4: Greg if you take it literally, is the the can
Speaker 4: the watering can. Okay, Now that's what Jim uses when
Speaker 4: he is gardening. So guys, you guys are almost like kismet.
Speaker 4: You guys are for them to get him. I mean
Speaker 4: they did it for you, Jim.
Speaker 3: They brought them. They brought the can to you.
Speaker 2: I used the hose and I get the whole thing. Sprinkles.
Speaker 3: I got that.
Speaker 1: You guys have You guys have a lot in common
Speaker 1: you and Luisa rise in that sense.
Speaker 3: Yes, you never missed Jim. You never miss well Jim.
Speaker 1: You mentioned his swag and his energy and you know
Speaker 1: NB I think it was NBC Philly put out on
Speaker 1: social media. Like just the stuff that Arise does in
Speaker 1: between pitches, after a pitch, he smells his bad he
Speaker 1: jumps up and down, he kind of does he does
Speaker 1: all sorts of different moves. I mean, he's great to watch.
Speaker 1: He's a guy you just kind of want to watch.
Speaker 1: Should see what he does. If he misses, you know,
Speaker 1: if he follows off a pitch he thinks he should hit,
Speaker 1: he reacts to it. If it's a pitch on you
Speaker 1: know that that a good pitch that he took, and
Speaker 1: he's happy body. He kind of shows it, you know.
Speaker 1: So there's he's he's he's enjoyable to watch. And you
Speaker 1: mentioned his runners with scoring position numbers. In his career,
Speaker 1: Luis arrives as a three eighteen hitter. This is entering
Speaker 1: Last Night runners on bass. He's a career three point
Speaker 1: fifty hitter. Runners in scoring position, he's a career three
Speaker 1: point fifty four hitter.
Speaker 2: So this is.
Speaker 1: Somebody that does damage when the runners. He doesn't get
Speaker 1: in the tight, rubin in the tight tighten up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he does not tighten up in the tight He relaxes and.
Speaker 4: Does well one of the things one of the things
Speaker 4: that he sort of switches it, I mean, and I
Speaker 4: think this is what the great hitters do in tight situations.
Speaker 3: The reality of it is, the pressure's on the picture.
Speaker 4: To make the pitch when there's guys on base, and
Speaker 4: sometimes hitters don't realize that it's them that have the pressure,
Speaker 4: and he flips it. A lot of the times of
Speaker 4: hitters believe that they have they are under pressure to
Speaker 4: come through. The reality of it is he makes it
Speaker 4: feel to the picture that you have to make a
Speaker 4: pitch to get me out and to get through this inning,
Speaker 4: and it's going to be tougher on you than it
Speaker 4: is on me.
Speaker 3: And I love that sort.
Speaker 4: Of mentality, and it's something that you hope becomes infectious
Speaker 4: to the rest of the lineup, no doubt.
Speaker 2: I love that. In his introductory little news conference there
Speaker 2: and somebody mentioned to him that Don Maddingly compared you
Speaker 2: to Tony gwyn and he jumped in and said, yeah,
Speaker 2: I was with Rock Caru in Rod Caru in Minnesota,
Speaker 2: probably a spring training instructor or something. But he knows
Speaker 2: Rod Karu and man, he was the ultimate bat the
Speaker 2: ball guy probably Ty Cobb was, but carew from my
Speaker 2: youth man. He just would let that ball get deep
Speaker 2: and flick.
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Speaker 1: So we asked, we asked all of you that watching
Speaker 1: and listen to the show for your for your phillies
Speaker 1: questions coming out of trade deadline. We got a bunch
Speaker 1: and let's just jump right into it. And this is
Speaker 1: a question on Instagram mca mic on Instagram? Is the
Speaker 1: lineup giving you flow or no flow? Jim Rubin you
Speaker 1: you care to get into it?
Speaker 2: Well, lately flow the addition of of arise. They're on
Speaker 2: a nice little uptick here since Baltimore rarely, but there
Speaker 2: are other times when there's no flow. When it's EBB.
Speaker 2: They are a inconsistent lineup. Some nights day EBB, some
Speaker 2: nights they flow. You prefer when they flow, and I
Speaker 2: think is going to help them. But I still think
Speaker 2: there's gonna be nights when they throw up the old
Speaker 2: gooseag or the one. But maybe cut into those nights
Speaker 2: and maybe help limit those nights.
Speaker 4: Medium to high flow for me and I And the
Speaker 4: reason why I say that is just for what Jim said.
Speaker 3: I'm interested to see how they handle.
Speaker 4: A really good starting pitching because they've they've struggled with that.
Speaker 4: With this new lineup, what are they gonna see when
Speaker 4: they face some guys. They're gonna face some guys in
Speaker 4: Toronto that might be a little bit better than what
Speaker 4: they faced in against the Nationals.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: One of the things that's really important, and I think
Speaker 4: it's huge for this team, is the guys like Stott
Speaker 4: are getting hot.
Speaker 3: That's huge for this team. For the back part of
Speaker 3: this lineup.
Speaker 4: A guy like Crawford maybe benefiting from having a rise around.
Speaker 4: He's hitting a bound two sixty two sixty five. That's
Speaker 4: not bad for a rookie. He's not driving the ball,
Speaker 4: but he's putting the ball in play and doing Crawford things.
Speaker 4: He's getting bait, he's getting you know, getting some bunts down.
Speaker 4: He's moving runners, he's driving a run in when he
Speaker 4: has to do it. He's stealing a bag. He had
Speaker 4: a little bit of a base running blunder yesterday, but
Speaker 4: that's a sort of a rookie thing, so you like
Speaker 4: to see.
Speaker 3: The bottom of the lineup doing some things. Stott's been hot.
Speaker 4: That's huge for them, and I think finally I'll get
Speaker 4: a lot more flow, probably within the next two days,
Speaker 4: because I think what's gonna happen here shortly is that
Speaker 4: Schoreber's gonna get hot. And when Shoreberg gets hot, then
Speaker 4: the flow will be heavy because he is a difference
Speaker 4: maker in the lineup. When he is on, the team
Speaker 4: is on. When he goes, they go. And I think
Speaker 4: that's what Don manningly has him at the top of
Speaker 4: the lineup for. Maybe he sees more fastballs or what
Speaker 4: have you. He hasn't and he's still striking out some,
Speaker 4: but at least he got off the schneid last night,
Speaker 4: got a couple of hits and an RBI. Hopefully that
Speaker 4: starts getting them going.
Speaker 2: You mentioned the starting pitching their face and real quick Todd,
Speaker 2: I was not at the game last night. I was
Speaker 2: watching on TV and when I put it on and
Speaker 2: I watched Miles Michael's throw, I honestly said this to myself.
Speaker 2: I'm like, why is Garrett Stubbs pitching for the Washington
Speaker 2: Nationals from the center field camera. His release looks like
Speaker 2: a Stubbs, the tall Garrett Stubbs, and his stuff is
Speaker 2: right there with Garrett as well.
Speaker 3: That's not nice. That's that nice.
Speaker 2: James I wasn't nice, but he.
Speaker 4: He didn't have stuff.
Speaker 3: His stuff is not there. It's obvious. He's got a
Speaker 3: six c r A.
Speaker 4: There's a reason why he doesn't have the punch in
Speaker 4: his stuff overall to be able to get hitters out.
Speaker 4: And he had a lot of success in Saint Louis
Speaker 4: using the top of the zone with the new swing pats.
Speaker 4: He was having a lot of success throwing breaking balls
Speaker 4: up and fastballs up and and and mixing up pitches.
Speaker 4: But he doesn't have the same stuff and he's getting
Speaker 4: knocked around quite a bit. Philly's with what eight doubles
Speaker 4: yesterday from seven hitters, and uh, you know, a lot
Speaker 4: of guys getting doing damage. Almost everybody had a multiple
Speaker 4: hit game.
Speaker 2: It was fight at the batrock.
Speaker 4: It was yeah, eleven eleven hard hit balls. Eleven hard
Speaker 4: hit balls and what five or six innings? That's a
Speaker 4: lot and uh, and listen, the real test is when
Speaker 4: when they start facing some guys here in Toronto.
Speaker 1: He has mentioned Bryce and Stott last thirty eight games
Speaker 1: Bryce and stopped batting three eleven eight seventy six ops.
Speaker 1: Bryce Harper since he said he'd move to the outfield
Speaker 1: and said he's not playing well and he needs to
Speaker 1: do his job better. Betting two ninety four eleven ops.
Speaker 1: Some other guy. Yeah, you mentioned Justin Crawford his last
Speaker 1: eleven games betting three forty four. Trey Turner eighteen games,
Speaker 1: betting three thirty three.
Speaker 2: JT.
Speaker 1: Real muto is last thirty eight games, betting two sixty
Speaker 1: two with a seven eighty seven ops. If j that
Speaker 1: was JT's season average, you would.
Speaker 3: Be eg static.
Speaker 1: Attic with JT. So you see some you see some signs,
Speaker 1: but they are still prone to the.
Speaker 5: Better late than never, though, better to do it in
Speaker 5: August and September and maybe October than to not do
Speaker 5: it at all and then and to be the reverse,
Speaker 5: right if you get out hot. That's why Brent Brandon
Speaker 5: Marshall's like, hey, what's going on with Brandon marsh I mean, listen,
Speaker 5: you hope that he turns it around. He's started to
Speaker 5: swing the bat a little bit better lately, but he
Speaker 5: went through a lull there that was pretty disastrous. He
Speaker 5: went from being phenomenal to sort of disastrous. Hopefully bounces back.
Speaker 1: Here's another question from Brett Miller fourteen on Instagram. Do
Speaker 1: you think Harps moved to the outfield will have a
Speaker 1: negative effect on his offensive output? Well, I can tell
Speaker 1: you that I asked him about that last week and
Speaker 1: he said, I think it actually could be good for
Speaker 1: me running around out there. It's kind of just you know,
Speaker 1: doing my thing, getting away from Bobby Dickerson. He was joking,
Speaker 1: he was joking.
Speaker 2: He was joking.
Speaker 1: I think he was joking.
Speaker 3: But Moby Bobby holds him accountable. Man, you also die.
Speaker 1: But Bryce is not going to move out. If Bryce
Speaker 1: thought if I go to the outfield, I'm going to
Speaker 1: die out there and I'm not going to be able
Speaker 1: to hit, then he would not be out there saying
Speaker 1: I'll move out to the outfield. So I have zero
Speaker 1: concern about him moving to the outfield and it affecting
Speaker 1: his offense at all. He's not an idiot. Bryce is
Speaker 1: not an idiot.
Speaker 3: No, there's a purpose behind everything he does.
Speaker 1: Right, If he thought he couldn't hit if he moved
Speaker 1: to the outfield, he ain't moving to the outfield, all right.
Speaker 1: This is uh one.
Speaker 3: Second, am I am I mistaken? Or am I correct?
Speaker 3: That he has two MVPs as an outfielder?
Speaker 2: Correct?
Speaker 3: Thank you?
Speaker 1: Correct?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: This is let me find this. So when this is
Speaker 1: from Tom g eighteen on Blue Sky, do you think
Speaker 1: a Rise could potentially be a hitting mentor to Bryson Stott.
Speaker 1: While Bryson is improving as the season progresses, I would
Speaker 1: like to see him be more like Louise on a
Speaker 1: consistent basis and less swinging for the fences. I mean,
Speaker 1: who wouldn't like Bryson Stott to turn into Louis to Rise.
Speaker 1: I've been saying it last two preseasons. My bold prediction
Speaker 1: is Bryson Stott makes the All Star team. I think
Speaker 1: even this year I said he finished. My bold prediction
Speaker 1: was Bryson Stott finished his top five for the n
Speaker 1: L batting title. So hey, get sign me up. If
Speaker 1: for Alisa Rights can rub off on Bryson Stott a
Speaker 1: little bit, why you.
Speaker 2: Never know the conversations that happened in a batting cage
Speaker 2: and the tidbit that is absorbed by the listener. So
Speaker 2: I think can rub off just by watching them. But
Speaker 2: I also think they can have conversations and pick each
Speaker 2: other's brains, and sure teammates help each other all the time.
Speaker 2: Look at Doc did for Cole Hammils and and you
Speaker 2: know Chase did for a bunch of guys. So yes,
Speaker 2: absolutely you could.
Speaker 4: I totally agree with that. And let me just say
Speaker 4: something else. Another caveat with regard to Stott. You know,
Speaker 4: I was concerned and he's going from second to third
Speaker 4: base totally different, and we haven't seen him play there
Speaker 4: a lot, but what I've seen so far is pretty
Speaker 4: damned impressive. He looks like he has not missed a beat.
Speaker 4: He's worked out before, he's played some there before professionally,
Speaker 4: not a lot, but just watching his actions and what
Speaker 4: he is not scared, he is His throws are impeccable,
Speaker 4: he is his footwork's really good. He's still getting used
Speaker 4: to the quick actions. It's a little bit different reaction time.
Speaker 4: But I am really impressed by the way he's handled
Speaker 4: third base so far. Made a really nice catch and.
Speaker 3: All pop up. He's a baseball players and athlete. We
Speaker 3: talked about it.
Speaker 4: We thought he'd make the adjustment okay, but there is
Speaker 4: some concern about like a slow roller or there's certain
Speaker 4: play that he has to throw this guy out at
Speaker 4: home or whatever the case may be a bare hand play,
Speaker 4: but so far his actions overall have been really good.
Speaker 3: Man. I've been impressed by the way Scott has handled
Speaker 3: the transition.
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Speaker 1: Here's the question from somebody who I guess.
Speaker 3: Was not.
Speaker 1: Enamored with all of the Phillies trade deadline moves or
Speaker 1: he just wants the Phillies to be a little bit better.
Speaker 1: And that's from John Barton. I think this is on Facebook.
Speaker 1: Is Dave Dombrowski's job on the line based off I
Speaker 1: guess I assume how this team finishes this season. You
Speaker 1: think Dave Dombrowski's on the Hot Seaters job is on
Speaker 1: the line based off how this team does this year.
Speaker 2: I do not get that feeling. He's signed through twenty seven.
Speaker 2: Expect to see him fulfill the remainder of that contract,
Speaker 2: and honestly, if he wants to keep going, I think
Speaker 2: he'll get an extension because John Middleton has enormous trust
Speaker 2: in the man, and I don't think his job is
Speaker 2: on the line. You know, he's come here, that these
Speaker 2: teams have gotten to the postseason, they've been knocked out
Speaker 2: out because of poor play on the field by the players.
Speaker 2: I mean, some of that poor play is by you know,
Speaker 2: because maybe some of the holes that he hasn't filled.
Speaker 2: But I don't think his job is on the line
Speaker 2: here as the season goes on.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 4: Only the only way that I think his job is
Speaker 4: on the line is that if maybe Middleton asks him
Speaker 4: to retire if they do not get into the playoffs
Speaker 4: and it's because they didn't bolster up the bullpen as
Speaker 4: they should have, or they could not somebody goes down
Speaker 4: in the rotation and they cannot you know, they could
Speaker 4: not find a fifth start or fourth start, whatever.
Speaker 3: I think that's the only possible way.
Speaker 4: I don't see it happening necessarily, because, as you said,
Speaker 4: John Middleton has a great deal of respect and admiration
Speaker 4: for Dave Lebowski.
Speaker 3: Thinks he's a Hall of Famer which he is.
Speaker 4: And I mean a lot of it is depends on
Speaker 4: whether listen, the players make you smart and then players
Speaker 4: make you dumb. As a GM nobody knows that better
Speaker 4: than me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if if look, if they totally crater missed the
Speaker 2: playoffs and the general public goes crazy, they might have
Speaker 2: to react. I mean, we've seen that. We've seen that.
Speaker 2: That's the reason ed Wade got fired. They were moving
Speaker 2: in the right direction. It didn't happen fast enough. The
Speaker 2: new stadium opened the second year, the attendance dropped by
Speaker 2: six hundred thousand. Fans were going nuts. They made a move,
Speaker 2: that's the truth. That's why they made that move. So
Speaker 2: public perception reaction means something. If they creater, they fall
Speaker 2: out of it, they might have to adjust something and
Speaker 2: make a move. But I think they get into the
Speaker 2: postseason and I think he's I think he's back, so
Speaker 2: we'll see agreed.
Speaker 1: Call me the bad guy.
Speaker 2: Think this again?
Speaker 1: This is my I don't know if this is on Facebook.
Speaker 1: What's the long term vision for this team? Bryce moved
Speaker 1: to right field for the rest of the season. Bryce
Speaker 1: in the third who's the right field next and right
Speaker 1: fielder next year? Is that marsh or an outside free agent.
Speaker 1: Is Tree more likely in the outfield or at second
Speaker 1: or third base? So yeah, a lot of movie pieces
Speaker 1: here in this. In this question, well, Bryce is said,
Speaker 1: Bryce is going back to first base last next season.
Speaker 1: Let's put that out there. Bryce is moving back to
Speaker 1: first base next season. We know this, So I guess
Speaker 1: they will need to figure out who's going to play
Speaker 1: right field.
Speaker 2: I do not. I can see Trey at any one
Speaker 2: of those positions that he mentioned, third, second, outfield. It's
Speaker 2: gonna be a conversation they have this winter. He hasn't
Speaker 2: played in the outfield in ten years. He only played
Speaker 2: like fifty games there as a pro. He's going to
Speaker 2: need a full spring training and then maybe some January
Speaker 2: on your own kind of workouts to get ready for
Speaker 2: that move to the outfield if it indeed does happen.
Speaker 2: But I you know, I don't Stock could play anywhere
Speaker 2: anywhere of three positions in the infield.
Speaker 4: So my bold prediction is that they try to re
Speaker 4: sign a Rise, which is an important piece. So he's
Speaker 4: playing second base because he's not going off a second.
Speaker 4: If not good Come is not moving back out to
Speaker 4: the outfield, then he's playing first base. I can see
Speaker 4: a situation where a guy like Bryson Stott can either
Speaker 4: play short or third base. Next year, they either sign
Speaker 4: a shortstop or a third baseman or acquire one. They
Speaker 4: talked about Netto a couple of times in Anaheim.
Speaker 3: That's a possibility. Movest out the third. Then you have a.
Speaker 4: Situation where I think Turner will go to center. I
Speaker 4: think Marshall go to Wright, and then you'll have Justin
Speaker 4: Crawford play left field. That scenario seems like something that
Speaker 4: for me will maximize their defense and maximize what they
Speaker 4: can do offensively.
Speaker 3: Just a thought, but that's that's where I'm at on
Speaker 3: And I mean I.
Speaker 4: Thought about this a lot because I really think a
Speaker 4: lot of it depends on how well you know, how
Speaker 4: well Turner plays at the end of the year. He's
Speaker 4: played really well at shortstop lately. I mean, he's gotten
Speaker 4: back into a good rhythm at shut and so if
Speaker 4: he finishes off the year playing, you know, good, doing
Speaker 4: a oneint eighty and playing the way that he played
Speaker 4: last year at shortstop towards the end of the year,
Speaker 4: then it's a more difficult conversation. You sure you sort
Speaker 4: of hope that he does that because they've got a
Speaker 4: better chance to win that way. But I still think
Speaker 4: that maybe the best scenario is to have him play
Speaker 4: center field, have Justin Crawford and left, have have Martian right,
Speaker 4: and then configure the infield with Harper, a rise Netto
Speaker 4: or someone like that at short or maybe Stott, and
Speaker 4: then a third basement that you either acquire or hope
Speaker 4: that a guy like Aiden Miller can step forward.
Speaker 2: You're right about Turner. It does look a lot more
Speaker 2: confidence just these last three nights. He made a couple
Speaker 2: of plays on Tuesday night. The first ball was a
Speaker 2: rocket right at him and he backhanded it, and I
Speaker 2: don't know why he backhanded it, but he made the play.
Speaker 2: And then he makes three other really good plays in
Speaker 2: the bag, one coming across the bag, and I noticed
Speaker 2: the confidence in the way he threw the ball, and
Speaker 2: throwing has not been his big problem. But he threw
Speaker 2: through the ball, He threw through the first basement, he
Speaker 2: let it rip, and he just looked like, for some reason,
Speaker 2: some confidence is starting to come in there. So it's
Speaker 2: been very necessary and good to see.
Speaker 4: What's the odd thing about him is that his comfort
Speaker 4: catch is the backhand. His hand turned over. That's his
Speaker 4: comfort catch. He even catches balls right at him that way.
Speaker 4: I've never seen a shortstop do this, but that's his
Speaker 4: comfort catch. He feels much more comfortable catching the baseball
Speaker 4: that way than this way with the palm up, which
Speaker 4: is odd, but listen, as long as it gets the
Speaker 4: job done. Used to talk to my dad about Ryan
Speaker 4: Samberg all the time. Ryan Samberg wasn't a funnel the
Speaker 4: ball into or into your body type guy.
Speaker 3: He was a hands pusher.
Speaker 4: He pushed the ball, pushed his hands out the jabber,
Speaker 4: and he did it better than anybody on the planet.
Speaker 3: So listen, it's like hitting. If you just get the
Speaker 3: job done properly, it doesn't matter how it happens.
Speaker 2: In this Netto stuff you mentioned, Ruben, there was this
Speaker 2: little dalliance with Netto at the trade deadline. I think
Speaker 2: that was purely information gathering for the winter. That's what
Speaker 2: smart teams do, just to kind of get a feel
Speaker 2: lay of the land, what it might take if he's
Speaker 2: available in the winter. And so I would not cross
Speaker 2: that name off on my list going forward.
Speaker 4: Jim Dalliance, fine use of the word find, fine vocabulary.
Speaker 2: Whatever whatever truculent is Howard, I it, Howard, I Ruben?
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Speaker 1: We got a few more questions for you. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: throw this one up at you, guys. This is from Schnecksville,
Speaker 1: Schneck's Snakesville. There we go, feels like we need feels
Speaker 1: like we need starting Pitcher insurance. Now what Well, that
Speaker 1: was the thing coming out of the trade deadline, of course,
Speaker 1: and she is referring to Andrew Painter's tight hammy from
Speaker 1: Wednesday night. Sounds like he's gonna be okay. And Don
Speaker 1: Magley said he is going to make his next schedule
Speaker 1: start and thank goodness because they don't have much behind him.
Speaker 1: And that was again the thing coming out of the
Speaker 1: trade dead. Everybody thought they would might go out and
Speaker 1: get a number five started.
Speaker 3: They did not.
Speaker 1: So if something they tried, they tried, they tried.
Speaker 2: I mean I heard somebody say the other day they
Speaker 2: made a decision not to get starting pitching decision. Wrong
Speaker 2: word failed is the right word. They didn't get something done.
Speaker 2: They didn't get something done. They tried. It's a concern.
Speaker 2: We've been a little upbeat here talking about the offense
Speaker 2: and arise. It gives you some hope and it's exciting,
Speaker 2: but they better hope these top five, these five starting
Speaker 2: pitchers stay healthy and the top three especially and effective.
Speaker 2: It's a major concern. The lack of depth in that
Speaker 2: starting rotation and the bullpen remains a major concern. So
Speaker 2: there are oh yeah, not everything is sunshine and rainbows.
Speaker 2: Because the offense is starting to click a little bit,
Speaker 2: there's major concerns on the bump in the middle of
Speaker 2: the diamond.
Speaker 4: And might I say he tweaked that hammy. He did
Speaker 4: it on a pitch, he gotta tweaked it on the mound.
Speaker 4: And then later on that inn, and he makes a
Speaker 4: athletic play that six foot seven twenty two year olds
Speaker 4: or twenty three year olds don't make.
Speaker 3: He jumped off the mound.
Speaker 4: On the ball, a slow roller to his left down
Speaker 4: the first base line, and he crossed over and made
Speaker 4: a nice throw to I guess it was a bomber
Speaker 4: at the time. I think it was Boemer. It was
Speaker 4: a heck of a play, and I think he probably
Speaker 4: aggravated on that play because it was this really athletic play.
Speaker 4: But that was the one play that reminded me how
Speaker 4: good of an athlete this kid is and why I
Speaker 4: have so many high hopes for him, because I always
Speaker 4: believe in athletes on the mound that if you're an
Speaker 4: athletic player, that you can have a lot of success.
Speaker 4: Best athletes on the mound, Tom Glavin, Maddox, Smoltz, these
Speaker 4: guys are great athletes. There's not just that. There's a
Speaker 4: reason why they're great. They were Hall of Fame pitchers
Speaker 4: and it's because of their overall athleticism. And I'd like
Speaker 4: to see this. I'm not comparing necessarily to those guys,
Speaker 4: but his athleticism certainly is outstanding.
Speaker 1: You played high school basketball down in Florida. You know
Speaker 1: he uh he goes to Cressy. He punts like sixty
Speaker 1: yards seven yard punts. He's a he is a tremendousous,
Speaker 1: tremendous athlete. So but yeah, the starting pitching depth big
Speaker 1: concern because he goes down and it's like Brian he
Speaker 1: goes down, or anybody goes down, it's Brian Keller. And
Speaker 1: then after that, I guess it's Alan run Hell. Although
Speaker 1: Dave Dave Dombrowski says people are calling on Alan run Hell,
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means. You know, no one's
Speaker 1: He's not feature. He's not a feature point of deal exactly.
Speaker 3: Because he's got options. Because he's got options, he's an option,
Speaker 3: but six or seven starter. That's why he has value.
Speaker 2: I believe people have asked about Alan, well, you need it,
Speaker 2: you need eight, nine and ten of them, right, correct.
Speaker 1: I guess the point is is that like you need
Speaker 1: you need starting pitching. It's not because he's a world Beater.
Speaker 1: If he was a world.
Speaker 3: You would have been traded.
Speaker 1: He would he would have been traded, or the Phillies
Speaker 1: would not be winless in that number five starter spot
Speaker 1: since May eighteenth, which is still where they are because
Speaker 1: they lost Painters last two, last two starts.
Speaker 2: I should have wanted to start in Baltimore.
Speaker 1: Correct, correct, Okay, a couple more here, let's see. This
Speaker 1: is from be Bezi Lama who goes to the bullpen
Speaker 1: in October. Do you have any thoughts on that?
Speaker 2: Nobody?
Speaker 1: I mean maybe nobody does.
Speaker 2: I see I see Nola as being like an opener,
Speaker 2: like go out and give.
Speaker 1: Me three, you know, Okay, all right?
Speaker 4: And I see I see Lozardo if he's not in
Speaker 4: the rotation, if he's not scheduled being in the rotation,
Speaker 4: that would.
Speaker 3: Be the big arm out of the pen for me.
Speaker 4: I would not put Painter in the pen unless I
Speaker 4: needed length, an extra guy for some length that he
Speaker 4: might do that. But as far as having a guy
Speaker 4: that would be closer to the seventh or eighth inning,
Speaker 4: someone you a trust guy that would be Lizardo for me.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Here's from Scott Moore with all the bullpen trouble we have.
Speaker 1: Is there any chance Gage would could be called up
Speaker 1: as we get closer to the postseason?
Speaker 2: What do you think about that?
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: I think there's always a chance, but I don't know
Speaker 2: if it's likely. But if he can throw a breaking
Speaker 2: ball for a strike, so guys are just not sitting
Speaker 2: on that heater, I wouldn't put him anything past Dombroski.
Speaker 2: If this kid continues to pitch well or pitches well
Speaker 2: because there is a level of desperation, Dembroski has done
Speaker 2: it before, He's got a big arm. It would be
Speaker 2: a short spurt for me. But you know, I don't
Speaker 2: know if you could handle it composure wise. It's a
Speaker 2: big jump from retting to a Pennant race. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of pressure on a kid. So I would just
Speaker 2: say it's a possibility.
Speaker 3: You never know, Yeah the question.
Speaker 4: And as you can only bring two guys to the
Speaker 4: big leagues in September, I'm not sure if he's going
Speaker 4: to be coming prior to that. But Davidbrowski's not afraid
Speaker 4: to bring young players in there if they think that
Speaker 4: they can help. He doesn't, He'll bring anybody. He'll bring
Speaker 4: this kitchen sink if he believe that they can help
Speaker 4: him in the playoffs, and so I gotta believe they'll
Speaker 4: bring an extra catcher that Marshaan at some point will
Speaker 4: be prepared to go by September. So that's one. And
Speaker 4: then the question is is there going to be another
Speaker 4: position player? I don't think it would be. I think
Speaker 4: it'd be a pitcher. And who is that guy? It
Speaker 4: could be a guy like gage Wood, and they could
Speaker 4: bring somebody else and then flip him out. Kind of
Speaker 4: depends that there's some flexibility there because there's some optionable guys.
Speaker 1: All right, let's uh a couple more here. This is
Speaker 1: from j our Finger on Instagram. Is there ever a
Speaker 1: time when Jim Stansbury slips back into his New England accent? Jim,
Speaker 1: I never really hear you slip into it that much.
Speaker 2: I pretty much purged it, you know, like if I'm
Speaker 2: up there for a few days and maybe having a
Speaker 2: a survey or two, it might come out of a
Speaker 2: weave then.
Speaker 3: But Jim, can I hear something do you have? Can
Speaker 3: you can you throw a little New England on us?
Speaker 2: I really I don't know if I can do that.
Speaker 2: It's hard to do, you know, you can't replicate like
Speaker 2: like Todd can.
Speaker 3: Todd has the ability to replicate it all different time.
Speaker 3: So what does he sound like? Todd?
Speaker 1: I am I covered the paw tech at Red Sox
Speaker 1: for years.
Speaker 2: How you talk, Jim, No, it's not how I damn on.
Speaker 1: Providence, get myself. Advice plice is.
Speaker 2: Get a nice grind, nice grind from clam cakes and shiada.
Speaker 3: There we go, There we go, there we go.
Speaker 2: A couple more. You never probably had a clam cake.
Speaker 1: Never had a clam cake?
Speaker 2: Here's the way.
Speaker 1: Here's one from an obsessive Philly Show fan in Middletown, Delaware, Fellas,
Speaker 1: what's a girl got to do to get a smell
Speaker 1: Smellulator T shirt? Come on in marketing gold.
Speaker 2: You know you're right? Maybe we ought to be selling
Speaker 2: and you know my idea. Don't say it, Todd. You
Speaker 2: know my idea. We're going to be millionaires if I
Speaker 2: can do that T shirt? Which shirt is that I can't?
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say it. On here there we'll tell
Speaker 2: you are five listeners.
Speaker 3: All right here we we have more than five listeners.
Speaker 1: Two more questions, and of course they got to be
Speaker 1: garden related. So I got to play the bumper. All right,
Speaker 1: question here here we go, Oh, a few ture gardening questions.
Speaker 1: Does does Jim ever make any trades in the garden?
Speaker 1: That is from Sean Sipfel, Do you ever make any
Speaker 1: trades in the garden with neighbors or anything like that?
Speaker 2: Or I kind of just give him away. But Mark Donardo,
Speaker 2: who runs the scoreboard room for the Phillies, he gave
Speaker 2: me a tomato plant, cherry tomato plant from Asia. I
Speaker 2: think it's from China. And it's a monster. It's really
Speaker 2: going crazy, all these tentacles everywhere and a very small,
Speaker 2: very sweet cherry tomato. So yeah, gardeners are always looking
Speaker 2: out for each other. It's like hitters in the batting kids.
Speaker 2: You always share an ideas what works for you, what
Speaker 2: works for me. I had to a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2: I dfad the egg plant because there was a bug
Speaker 2: that was just turning the eggplant leaves into mesh. So
Speaker 2: I dfa the egg plant, and I also fai the
Speaker 2: spaghetti squash. Takes up a lot of room and the
Speaker 2: flavor is just not there for me. It's a place
Speaker 2: bland product. And what I did is I doubled up
Speaker 2: on the butternut squash. So I like to go into
Speaker 2: the winter with like a dozen of them, and I
Speaker 2: roast those all all winter. I've got some beauties out
Speaker 2: there now that are coming along, so I do trade
Speaker 2: off things.
Speaker 3: I just want to say one thing.
Speaker 4: I don't want to diss Mark DeNardo, because he's more
Speaker 4: than just the guy who runs the board. He is
Speaker 4: thet of broadcasting and video services.
Speaker 3: So the possible he demoted him marked.
Speaker 4: Marke DeNardo is one of my is one of my bosses,
Speaker 4: of course, but he's actually a phenomenal human being and
Speaker 4: a employee.
Speaker 3: So I don't want to diss him, no distric love.
Speaker 4: I want to make sure people know who he is
Speaker 4: because the man, you know, he's the man.
Speaker 2: And you want to make sure you give a little
Speaker 2: suck up. Correct your boss, good now, Marcus one of
Speaker 2: the Marcus, one of the one of the great people.
Speaker 2: We had Mark on the.
Speaker 1: Show last year. We had Mark on the show last year.
Speaker 2: To talk about Juan Duran.
Speaker 1: Entrance and all that, the whole process.
Speaker 2: So that's right. And I also have some I have
Speaker 2: some gorgeous cutting flowers out there right now. Cosmos Zinnia
Speaker 2: is just some what else sunflowers. I have a thing
Speaker 2: called Mexican sunflower that is orange and absolutely beautiful. So
Speaker 2: you know, I got it all out there.
Speaker 3: Can you put together? Can you put your the other
Speaker 3: little bouquet so I can bring it.
Speaker 6: To LORI please, I mean I need to do that.
Speaker 6: Sometimes we need a little suck up. So can you
Speaker 6: hook hook a brother up? I can do that during
Speaker 6: the alumni we can all right.
Speaker 1: This is the last.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see you out there, Reuben.
Speaker 3: Oh, I can't wait.
Speaker 2: Don't do me favorite. Don't walk like a duck. I
Speaker 2: always walk like a.
Speaker 3: Last.
Speaker 2: This is the last one.
Speaker 1: This is from Nick cal four on Instagram. Why aren't
Speaker 1: my tomatoes turning red?
Speaker 2: You know why? You know why?
Speaker 3: Mark?
Speaker 2: Because I got all the red ones.
Speaker 3: Look at that.
Speaker 2: That's a nice zucchini. Check out this hall yesterday dropped
Speaker 2: my nice hall of green beans. I got it all.
Speaker 2: So on another show, I think I previously told you
Speaker 2: about the technique of spanking your tomatoes and how important
Speaker 2: it is. On a future show, I'll tell you how
Speaker 2: to get your tomatoes to turn red and get those
Speaker 2: little green ones towards the end of the season to
Speaker 2: start ripening with a technique called root pruning. But we
Speaker 2: won't go there today.
Speaker 1: That says Jim was saying round, give them time, give
Speaker 1: them time, guaranteed. Give that's that's what if Jim Head
Speaker 1: is a New England accidents.
Speaker 3: Here, that's a teaser.
Speaker 2: That's it. You gotta give them time. It's like it's
Speaker 2: like a player in the minor leagues. You know you
Speaker 2: can't rush you, You got to give them time.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 2: Patient, Well, that was a lot of fun your questions.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, that talks absolutely.
Speaker 4: It's just so on Saturday, that's tomorrow, from eleven to one,
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Speaker 3: It's a time of time on sort of.
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Speaker 2: Now, Mickey. I saw Mickey at Planet Fitness yesterday. He
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Speaker 3: I love that he's got the ability.
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Speaker 3: Do with the best will be the grand prize winner.
Speaker 3: Don't know what the brand prize is yet. That's a surprise.
Speaker 2: That'll be nice. Nice alumni weekend. Looking forward to hearing
Speaker 2: Chase suddenly speak tonight. Drop. I don't I think he's matured,
Speaker 2: but Jimmy Rollins with a fabulous speech. Oh yeah, all
Speaker 2: off the top of his head last year when he
Speaker 2: went on the Wall of Fame, and and tonight, it'll
Speaker 2: be cool to see Chase go on the Wall Fame.
Speaker 4: And he challenged that twenty twenty five team. You want
Speaker 4: to stop hearing about the twenty eighteen win your own
Speaker 4: damn championship is basically what he said.
Speaker 2: I don't think Chase will do that, but he'll definitely
Speaker 2: support the twenty sixteen Yeah, of course he.
Speaker 3: And the fans.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they say the right thing.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that speech. Yeah, I say under
Speaker 1: on the bomb under on the one F bomb under. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I say under.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say the under also.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
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