Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2: So who do.
Speaker 1: They get to replace him?
Speaker 2: Republicans? I believe Joe Biden is available.
Speaker 1: There was sweat on Donald Trump's lip for the last
Speaker 1: thirty minutes or so, on and off, and I think that,
Speaker 1: if anything summarized this extraordinary evening, what might have been
Speaker 1: certainly the liveliest presidential debate of all time, at least
Speaker 1: at one end of it, because in addition to being
Speaker 1: a presidential debate, this was also that Kamala Harris press
Speaker 1: conference everybody has been asking about. She did most of
Speaker 1: the substantial talking, despite being periodically interrupted by what sounded
Speaker 1: like a drunken heckler who kept getting.
Speaker 2: Owned and owned and owned.
Speaker 1: Every time he stood up and said something ridiculous. I
Speaker 1: will point out that, in addition to this being as
Speaker 1: disastrous a debate for Donald Trump as the last time
Speaker 1: we gathered was for Joe Biden, that Donald Trump's closing
Speaker 1: argument boiled down to, in essence, his threat to destroy
Speaker 1: America with Russian nuclear weapons. This did not go well
Speaker 1: for Trump. Remember when I said on the podcast shortly
Speaker 1: after the decision by Joe Biden to drop out to
Speaker 1: accede to the wishes of democratic leadership and let Kamala
Speaker 1: Harris be the nominee. That there might someday soon come
Speaker 1: a day when we actually sit around and say, can
Speaker 1: you believe we almost didn't swap out candidates in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four, we almost didn't run Kamala for president. Well,
Speaker 1: we're certainly at that point right now. That was an
Speaker 1: extraordinary moment from in fact, the seconds that they came
Speaker 1: out onto the stage and the Vice president extended her
Speaker 1: hand to Donald Trump for a handshake, and you could
Speaker 1: tell he didn't even know what that meant the last time,
Speaker 1: but he shook his hand in those circumstances. Was twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton did it once and would never do it again.
Speaker 1: From the beginning, she was on offense, he was on defense.
Speaker 1: In fact, after they took that first commercial break about
Speaker 1: an agonizing one hour and three or four minutes into
Speaker 1: the debate tonight, I was genuinely surprised that when they
Speaker 1: came back from the commercial break, Donald Trump was still there.
Speaker 1: When your go to character references are Victor Orbon and
Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin, you're having a bad night. Because when she
Speaker 1: was not making a fool of Trump. Trump was making
Speaker 1: a fool of himself. The final rankings that I give
Speaker 1: at the end of something like this are now complete.
Speaker 1: Our number one was Kamala Harris finishing second. David Muir
Speaker 1: of ABC News, Number three, Lindsay Davis of ABC News
Speaker 1: for the Carfax Fox on the CNN commercials during those breaks.
Speaker 1: Number five, Dogs and cats every Where. Number six the
Speaker 1: ABC voiceover guy who said welcome back to the ABC debate.
Speaker 1: Position seven through four, nine hundred and ninety nine, no
Speaker 1: candidates rose to the standard described by the committee in
Speaker 1: the applications, and the five thousandth ranked performer tonight was
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. And if you think it's just me, and
Speaker 1: perhaps I'm exaggerating somewhat because of my own personal beliefs
Speaker 1: and my occasional reputation as a liberal or a Democrat
Speaker 1: or a progressive. Rick Wilson, who was a conservative maestro
Speaker 1: behind the scenes during the presidency and candidacies of George W.
Speaker 1: Bush and particularly John McCain, with whom I have had
Speaker 1: loud and public arguments, Rick Wilson tweeted forty three minutes
Speaker 1: into that debacle. I've been in this business a long, long,
Speaker 1: long time. Trump is being wrecked, destroyed. He's a bellowing
Speaker 1: old man yelling at clouds. Mike Murphy, who was often
Speaker 1: with Rick Wilson in these arguments that I had with
Speaker 1: him during my network days, was a little blunder. He's
Speaker 1: literally having his own Biden debate. The Republican strategist wrote, disaster,
Speaker 1: he's giving tonight to her on the other side of
Speaker 1: the ball. Alexandria Acasio Cortes, This I think will be
Speaker 1: the imagery.
Speaker 2: I've already used it. She did too.
Speaker 1: He sounds like a guy yelling at random people on
Speaker 1: thirty fourth Street with a karaoke speaker. I didn't think
Speaker 1: he was quite that clear. And then again, if you're
Speaker 1: wondering if the reaction to this is going to be uniform,
Speaker 1: if at the end of a political debate, the result
Speaker 1: of which does not depend on any kind of objective
Speaker 1: scorekeeping or ballgame being played, or anything else that is
Speaker 1: even remotely numerical numerically countable. If you wondering if there
Speaker 1: could be a consensus that one candidate one and the
Speaker 1: other one lost. Benny Johnson, who just this past week
Speaker 1: was identified as one of the people who unknowingly was
Speaker 1: receiving payments washed from Russia and the Kremlin through a
Speaker 1: company associated with Glenn Beck's Blaze, and being paid hundreds
Speaker 1: of thousands of dollars a month for online videos that
Speaker 1: got ones of thousands of views a month. Bennie Johnson writes,
Speaker 1: why do Republican agree to debates in this format? The
Speaker 1: moderators are rigged. I don't think it could rig a moderator,
Speaker 1: but we'll let it pass. The questions are rigged. The
Speaker 1: TV executives are all friends with the Democrat on stage,
Speaker 1: questions get leaked to them. It's all a trap desired
Speaker 1: to destroy one side. GOP does not need corporate media.
Speaker 1: I swear to God it wasn't my fault, and.
Speaker 2: I added that last part. It's from the Blues Brothers.
Speaker 1: The Associated Press, which has spent the entirety of the
Speaker 1: Trump era trying not to say anything at all about
Speaker 1: Trump in a negative fashion or a positive faction, although
Speaker 1: they've been more successful at the front than at the back.
Speaker 1: Of that combination, Harris maintains tone Trump's body language morphs
Speaker 1: by Chris Majerian. With the debate more than half over,
Speaker 1: Harris is maintaining the same even tone with which she started.
Speaker 1: But Trump's body language has morphed. He's hunched over the lectern,
Speaker 1: slashing his hand through the air to punctuate his statements.
Speaker 1: Sometimes he raises his voice, Yes, I would say. Sometimes
Speaker 1: he raised his voice and then he began to to
Speaker 1: sweat from the lip, also from the ap. During the
Speaker 1: last debate, the camera often caught Biden looking aimless while
Speaker 1: Trump was speaking. Harris appears more prepared for the television format.
Speaker 1: When Trump answers questions, she watches him intently. Sometimes she smiles,
Speaker 1: shakes her head, or stares in puzzlement. Visually, she's increasing
Speaker 1: the amount of time that she's conveying a message to viewers.
Speaker 1: You're goddamn right there, associated press Chris Majerian.
Speaker 2: That was the whole point.
Speaker 1: We'll go through a checklist of things that were suggested
Speaker 1: here by Tim O'Brien, a Trump baiter of some renowned
Speaker 1: for Bloomberg, including this idea that she had to remember
Speaker 1: that the split screen would be on her at all times.
Speaker 1: I mentioned it. I believe in today's podcast. One of
Speaker 1: the rules of being in television or in front of
Speaker 1: camera in any live venue is that you should assume
Speaker 1: it's always on. And even if you don't know that
Speaker 1: you're on, somebody somewhere is watching your reaction. You must,
Speaker 1: for whatever it takes, spend that hour and a half
Speaker 1: looking at that camera and not putting this finger up
Speaker 1: any orifice north of the chin. CNN Harris campaign sees
Speaker 1: spike in donations from women. Excuse me during the first
Speaker 1: hour of debate. Shouldn't have made the fates make my
Speaker 1: nose hitch there, Aaron Pelish of CNN rights. In the
Speaker 1: first hour of Tuesday's presidential debate, seventy one percent of
Speaker 1: grassroots donors the vice president Kamala Harris's campaign where women.
Speaker 1: A campaign official told CNN the first hour of the
Speaker 1: debate featured heated extra changes, et cetera from Maggie Haberman
Speaker 1: of The New York Times. I think we all need
Speaker 1: to give Maggie a little space right now, Harris official says.
Speaker 1: Yusef Salaam, one of the Central Park five, will be
Speaker 1: in the spin.
Speaker 2: Room after debate.
Speaker 1: Oh, you may recall that when Kamala Harris brought that up.
Speaker 1: And the key difference here is in the Joe Biden
Speaker 1: performance in the first debate and Kamala Harris's performance in
Speaker 1: this debate was that phrase when Kamala Harris brought it up.
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris owned this debate stage. There are a lot
Speaker 1: of good questions, and I want to devote some of
Speaker 1: this conversation here to what Lindsay Davis and David Muir
Speaker 1: did for ABC, which I wish could be xeroxed and
Speaker 1: sent to every network. But she owned it. She brought
Speaker 1: up the Central Park five. Everything that was not brought
Speaker 1: up by the moderators, virtually everything she could have brought up,
Speaker 1: she did, and provoked things like Donald Trump explaining that
Speaker 1: this happened so long ago, along with his own fines
Speaker 1: from the government that he had to negotiate because he
Speaker 1: wouldn't rent to black people when he started in business
Speaker 1: with his father when I was like a junior in
Speaker 1: high school. I think the handshake was the thing that
Speaker 1: unsettled him from the beginning. He was expecting to come
Speaker 1: out and have something, something that resembled the debate against
Speaker 1: Joe Biden this one or the ones in twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: or even something that resembled the debates with Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton is and would have been, I believe, an
Speaker 1: excellent president. But she herself said she's a terrible job applicant.
Speaker 1: She's a much better employee. She does not make that consuming,
Speaker 1: controlling kind of presentation. She doesn't sell herself well in
Speaker 1: that environment. So the debates that he's had up until
Speaker 1: this point were not against the a one possible opponent.
Speaker 1: What she did was what you would do if you
Speaker 1: were a prosecutor in a courtroom. She came roaring out
Speaker 1: of the gate. She brought up the opportunity economy. She
Speaker 1: started by basically giving everybody six thousand dollars to help
Speaker 1: raise their children, and every small business fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: And if you notice at the beginning of this, and
Speaker 1: we will review the first few minutes and we can
Speaker 1: start queuing that first set of clips up because I
Speaker 1: want to go through this. The first three minutes of
Speaker 1: this debate really told you what was going to happen thereafter. Again,
Speaker 1: she's in charge of the whole thing. She defines him,
Speaker 1: and he came out looking unconscious. So let's go back,
Speaker 1: and I want to go through a bunch of clips
Speaker 1: from this from the ABC debate. Let me do this
Speaker 1: first one first. It's about three minutes long. And if
Speaker 1: you do not listen to it. At least look at
Speaker 1: Trump and look at the fact that it can barely
Speaker 1: get his eyes open.
Speaker 2: This was a bad start.
Speaker 3: First of all, I have no sales tax. That's an
Speaker 3: incorrect statement. She knows that we're doing tariffs so in
Speaker 3: other countries. Other countries are going to find after seventy
Speaker 3: five years, pay us back for all that we've done
Speaker 3: for the world, and the tariff will be substantial. In
Speaker 3: some cases. I took in billions and billions of dollars,
Speaker 3: as you know, from China. In fact, they never took
Speaker 3: the tariff off because there was so much money. They can't.
Speaker 3: It would totally destroy everything that they've set out to do.
Speaker 2: They're taken in.
Speaker 3: Billions of dollars from China and other places. They've left
Speaker 3: the tariffs on. When I had it, I had tariffs,
Speaker 3: and yet I had no inflation. Look, we've had a
Speaker 3: terrible economy because inflation has which is really known as
Speaker 3: a country buster. It breaks up countries. We have inflation
Speaker 3: like very few people have ever seen before, probably the
Speaker 3: worst in our nation's history. We were at twenty one percent.
Speaker 3: But that's being generous because many things are fifty sixty,
Speaker 3: seventy and eighty percent higher than they were just a
Speaker 3: few years ago. This has been a disaster for people,
Speaker 3: for the middle class, but for every class. On top
Speaker 3: of that, we have millions of people pouring into our
Speaker 3: country from prisons and jails, from mental instant usians and
Speaker 3: insane asylums, and they're coming in and they're taking jobs
Speaker 3: that are occupied right now by African Americans and Hispanics,
Speaker 3: and also unions. Unions are going to be affected very soon.
Speaker 3: And you see what's happening. You see what's happening with
Speaker 3: towns throughout the United States. You look at Springfield, Ohio,
Speaker 3: you look at Aurora in Colorado. They are taking over
Speaker 3: the towns, they're taking over buildings, they're going in violently.
Speaker 3: These are the people that she and Biden led into
Speaker 3: our country, and they're destroying our country. They're dangerous, They're
Speaker 3: at the highest level of criminality, and we have to
Speaker 3: get them out. We have to get them out fast.
Speaker 3: I created one of the greatest economies in the history
Speaker 3: of our country. I'll do it again and even better.
Speaker 4: We are going to get to immigration and border security
Speaker 4: during this debate. But I would like to let Vice
Speaker 4: President Harris respond on the economy here.
Speaker 5: Well, I would love to let's talk about what Donald
Speaker 5: Trump left us. Donald Trump left us the world unemployment
Speaker 5: since the Great Depression. Donald Trump left us the worst
Speaker 5: public health epidemic in a century. Donald Trump left us
Speaker 5: the worst attack on our democracy since the Civil War.
Speaker 5: And what we have done is clean up Donald Trump's mess.
Speaker 5: What we have done and what I intend to do
Speaker 5: is build on what we know are the aspirations and
Speaker 5: the hopes of the American people. But I'm going to
Speaker 5: tell you all on this debate tonight, you're going to
Speaker 5: hear from the same old tired playbook, a bunch of lies, grievances,
Speaker 5: and name calling. What you're going to hear tonight is
Speaker 5: a detailed and dangerous plan called Project twenty twenty five
Speaker 5: that the former president intends on implementing if he were
Speaker 5: elected to gain I believe very strongly that the American
Speaker 5: people want a president who understands the importance of bringing
Speaker 5: us together, knowing we have so much more in common
Speaker 5: than what separates us, and to be a president for
Speaker 5: all Americans.
Speaker 1: To quote Mia Farrow from Rosemary's Baby, What's Wrong with
Speaker 1: his Eyes? Did you see that and believe it or not?
Speaker 1: What you saw there if you did not watch the
Speaker 1: entirety of this debate, that was the Trump highlight. It
Speaker 1: went downhill from there because he began in that sort
Speaker 1: of and forgive me President Biden, that kind of biden
Speaker 1: esque trance. Let's use a positive term, like trance. That
Speaker 1: sounds exciting, doesn't it. He's in a trance. That's what
Speaker 1: it started as this. Did you know that we're already
Speaker 1: on Did you notice that the debate had begun?
Speaker 2: Mister Trump?
Speaker 1: Then as she successfully angered him, baited him, decked him
Speaker 1: a couple of times, metaphorically put him on defense on
Speaker 1: every one of the topics that she brought up in
Speaker 1: those opening remarks. Then he became angry Trump as the
Speaker 1: one who lost the debate to Biden in the first
Speaker 1: debate in twenty twenty. Then he became Trump trying to
Speaker 1: look like Churchill. If you notice all the big photos
Speaker 1: that he likes, those, all of his many mugshots. He's
Speaker 1: doing this thing where he thinks, and he has said
Speaker 1: he thinks he's accomplishing a look equivalent to that of
Speaker 1: Winston Churchill, the British World War two Prime minister who
Speaker 1: incidentally has been sullied recently by JD Vance's buddy Tucker
Speaker 1: Carlson and a guest on Carlson Show who is now
Speaker 1: saying that Winston Churchill was the cause of World War
Speaker 1: Two rather than you know, dolf A Hitler, Hay And
Speaker 1: that's going to cause another rift on top of everything else.
Speaker 1: But we're getting away from the question of whether or
Speaker 1: not Donald Trump is still the Republican nominee. In the morning,
Speaker 1: the thing that happened after this was something that I
Speaker 1: cheered for. The moderators fact checked Donald Trump. I made
Speaker 1: some comments this morning on the podcast about if David
Speaker 1: Muir wanted to be Edward R.
Speaker 2: Murrow or Edward R.
Speaker 1: Muro I said, sure, he's the lesser halt of Dana Bash's.
Speaker 1: I apologize without reservation. And to Lindsay Davis, whose work
Speaker 1: I did not really know. I had seen her before,
Speaker 1: as I said earlier, make xeroxes of them and send
Speaker 1: them to CNN and NBC and Fox News.
Speaker 2: Like they'd know what to do with actual journalists.
Speaker 1: But to every journalistic organization in the country, how to
Speaker 1: do a debate when one of the candidates is actively
Speaker 1: lying and depending on lies is to do what Lindsey
Speaker 1: Davis did on the subject of the nine month abortions
Speaker 1: to simply say, no, there are no such things in
Speaker 1: any state. It is not legal in any state. Vice
Speaker 1: President Harris, don't even give him a chance to come
Speaker 1: back and challenge your fact check. A fact is that
Speaker 1: it is immutable, and if you have it in front
Speaker 1: of you, treat it that way. It is decisive. It
Speaker 1: is a knockout. It is a stick against the guy's forehead.
Speaker 1: And Trump got that stick across his forehead repeatedly, so
Speaker 1: a standing ovation for Muir and Lindsay Davis. At one point,
Speaker 1: David Muir in fact, not only asked Trump a tough
Speaker 1: question about January sixth, but when he veered off into
Speaker 1: the destruction of Seattle in Minneapolis, which at last I
Speaker 1: heard were both still extant. When he veered off into that,
Speaker 1: he let him finish, and then he said, but to
Speaker 1: get back to January sixth.
Speaker 2: It was marvelous.
Speaker 1: It was what Jake Tapper and Dana Bash should have
Speaker 1: done and did not do. That amplified the problems that
Speaker 1: Joe Biden had in his last debate.
Speaker 2: There was so many things that you could.
Speaker 1: Analyze line by line this debate and what Trump did
Speaker 1: to himself and what Kamala Harris did for herself. You
Speaker 1: could probably take seven or eight hours and just do
Speaker 1: a simple factual recitation, just as a simple factual recitation
Speaker 1: of the problems for Joe Biden in the last debate
Speaker 1: could have been made. But I wanted to skip ahead
Speaker 1: before we go through the checklists and then some other comments,
Speaker 1: other clips from the debate itself to the end. When
Speaker 1: Press and again the moderators made sure they gave him
Speaker 1: multiple chances to answer, not simply to filibuster. He would
Speaker 1: not say he wants Ukraine to win. He would not
Speaker 1: say that he needs to see Russia defeated. He could
Speaker 1: not talk about anything in the dispute between the free
Speaker 1: world and the dictatorial world of Vladimir Putin, and what
Speaker 1: Putin's goals are for Europe and for the world, and
Speaker 1: in its entirety, he could not process them either. He
Speaker 1: wanted to avoid them. But I think much more likely
Speaker 1: it simply doesn't compute with him. He immediately reverted to
Speaker 1: how much money the United States has spent in defense
Speaker 1: of Ukraine compared to how much Europe has spent. And
Speaker 1: by the way, factually he's incorrect Europe has spent far
Speaker 1: more defending Ukraine and sending aid to Ukraine and sending
Speaker 1: materiel to Ukraine than the United States has.
Speaker 2: We are not, in.
Speaker 1: Fact being outspent by Europe on Ukraine. It's not just
Speaker 1: about the money. And if it were, he was wrong
Speaker 1: about that too. And then of course there was the
Speaker 1: extraordinary gymnastics that he claimed Kamala Harris was capable of,
Speaker 1: which was of simultaneously hating Israel and the Palestinians.
Speaker 2: A series of.
Speaker 1: Events before this debate led me to compose a bit
Speaker 1: of a checklist, some of which I gave out on
Speaker 1: the podcast yesterday morning. And it was really an examination
Speaker 1: both of what Kamala Harris had to do and what
Speaker 1: the moderators had to do, and less about what Trump
Speaker 1: had to do, because as we know, Trump has the
Speaker 1: benefit that none of the rest of us do in
Speaker 1: those situations where you can just make it up as
Speaker 1: he goes along. It's really good to have that asset
Speaker 1: right there in your hand. When you don't have to
Speaker 1: worry about being factually accurate, consistent, or anywhere in any way,
Speaker 1: shape or form tethered to reality, you can tell wonderful stories.
Speaker 1: Some of the greatest compositions of mankind are based on
Speaker 1: the ability to make stuff up as you go along.
Speaker 1: William Shakespeare was great at it. William Shakespeare was not
Speaker 1: president of anything. Trump was seeks to be again, and
Speaker 1: I think tonight he may have made it impossible for
Speaker 1: him to be, at least I hope so. But this
Speaker 1: checklist of the things that they needed to do, did
Speaker 1: the moderators or Kamala Harris do the following? Did they
Speaker 1: bring up January sixth, Yes, the moderators did. It was
Speaker 1: turned into by Trump an immigration answer. Did they bring
Speaker 1: up the threat to arrest political opponents? God bless him?
Speaker 1: David Muir read the entirety of Trump's post on social
Speaker 1: media in which he threatened to arrest political oppositions. Trump
Speaker 1: hemmed and hawed and gave an answer that will not
Speaker 1: gain him anything because he neither denied the violence of
Speaker 1: what was behind his words in that post, nor did
Speaker 1: he reaffirm it. So those who were in favor of
Speaker 1: what he's proposing to do, the Mike Davises and the
Speaker 1: Project twenty twenty five people like that, they were not
Speaker 1: reinforced whatsoever. He basically sold them down the river and
Speaker 1: tried to pivot to Harris being a danger to democracy
Speaker 1: because because Joe Biden isn't the nominee, which of course
Speaker 1: was the goal of the entirety of Trump's first impeachment
Speaker 1: was to make sure Joe Biden wouldn't be the nominee.
Speaker 2: He got his way, and now he's blaming everybody else
Speaker 2: for it.
Speaker 1: Did they bring up Tucker Carlson and jd Vance and
Speaker 1: Nazis in Churchill? They did, Okay, you missed one. Did
Speaker 1: they bring up the Arlington Cemetery scandal?
Speaker 2: They did not.
Speaker 1: I don't think it was any great loss. It's important
Speaker 1: to us. I don't know that it was important to
Speaker 1: the viewers who were not seeing or were seeing Kamala
Speaker 1: Harris maybe for the first time, and certainly seeing the
Speaker 1: two of them together for the first time. The television
Speaker 1: audience and the streaming audience in this country for the
Speaker 1: first debate in the middle of summer was fifty one
Speaker 1: million approximately. I suspect this one will be far better
Speaker 1: than that, because, on top of everything else, it was
Speaker 1: goddamn better television than the first one was, and it
Speaker 1: was not. I suspect the Trump people hung in there
Speaker 1: as long as they could assuming that at some point
Speaker 1: he would get up off the mat and throw a haymaker,
Speaker 1: which he never did. But for those in the political equation,
Speaker 1: people who would be voting for Kamala Harris, at the
Speaker 1: end of that, I'm sure you had the same feeling
Speaker 1: I had, which.
Speaker 2: Was what it's over already? Is there going to be
Speaker 2: another one next week? Come on, let's do this every week. Kids.
Speaker 1: Did she call him not a liar or a criminal,
Speaker 1: but lawless. Yes, she implied that he had no law.
Speaker 1: He was a law unto himself. Did she call him.
Speaker 2: Old go for the gold, old is gold? She never
Speaker 2: used the word.
Speaker 1: I guess she's a better person than I am, but
Speaker 1: she did imply it and successfully. Did she call him
Speaker 1: low energy? She described the audiences leaving early from his debates.
Speaker 1: You could see his eyes flare with rage at the
Speaker 1: thought of this, because that's all that really matters to him.
Speaker 1: It is human beings as numbers, that's all he understands.
Speaker 1: It ties into the answer about Ukraine. Human beings as numbers.
Speaker 1: The enjoyment in life that he gets, perhaps one of
Speaker 1: the few enjoyments in life that doesn't come in a
Speaker 1: bag that says.
Speaker 2: McDonald's on it. Well, then a few things he actually
Speaker 2: enjoys is those rallies.
Speaker 1: There was a point in twenty sixteen when he said
Speaker 1: he thought maybe he would lose, but he'd continue to
Speaker 1: hold the rallies because he so enjoyed them, because people
Speaker 1: were cheering, and he could count, and he could say
Speaker 1: there were one hundred and eleven billion people at my rally.
Speaker 2: And she attacked the number of people.
Speaker 1: At his rallies. Oh did he not like that? Did
Speaker 1: she call him low energy?
Speaker 2: Yes? Did she call him failure yes? Did she use
Speaker 2: the word weird?
Speaker 1: No? Damn fact checking. I mentioned this again. Hats off
Speaker 1: to Lindsay Davis and David Buher. Did she accomplish her
Speaker 1: two main goals? Did she introduce herself to the twenty
Speaker 1: eight percent who don't have enough info? According to the
Speaker 1: CIBA the IPSOS New York Times poll from over the weekend,
Speaker 1: don't think they know enough about her to decide up
Speaker 1: or down. I think she did that spectacularly, And I
Speaker 1: think she did that for the people who went to
Speaker 1: bed at nine oh five pm and went, oh, I
Speaker 1: get it now. She's sort of a very pleasant and
Speaker 1: well spoken, sort of standard issue slightly more liberal maybe
Speaker 1: than I am Democrat, but she's not going to get.
Speaker 2: Us all killed.
Speaker 1: Did she win over people who did not know her
Speaker 1: as opposed to Trump's goal?
Speaker 2: Trump's goal in this had to be.
Speaker 1: For him to get any higher than his ceiling of
Speaker 1: forty seven percent of popular support.
Speaker 2: Did he sell himself?
Speaker 1: Did he convince people who hate him to vote for
Speaker 1: him anyway? I can't imagine that the answer to the
Speaker 1: total number of people he convinced who hate him to
Speaker 1: vote for him anyway was more than thirty or thirty five,
Speaker 1: Not thousand, not million, but thirty or thirty five. She
Speaker 1: in the first five minutes of that debate smiled, laughed
Speaker 1: at him, looked quizzically at him, mocked him, didn't say
Speaker 1: a word, Pa paid attention, was vibrant, welcoming, has a
Speaker 1: great face for television, and utilized it in all of
Speaker 1: the ways you can utilize a face on television. Tax
Speaker 1: deductions in the first answer, and as I said, not
Speaker 1: only brought up what she was and what she was
Speaker 1: going to say during the course of that debate, but
Speaker 1: defined him and said what he would do and how
Speaker 1: he would fall apart, and how he would eventually get
Speaker 1: around to racism and sexism and to this extraordinary xenophobia
Speaker 1: that animates him in every respect, And he promptly did
Speaker 1: everything she said he was going to do. Tim O'Brien,
Speaker 1: who I mentioned earlier from Bloomberg, who issued a checklist
Speaker 1: of seven key points for Kamala Harris respect the split screen.
Speaker 1: Where as I put it, can you maintain resting president
Speaker 1: face A plus, emphasize your the borders are he sabotaged
Speaker 1: the border deal. I'm summarizing exactly what she said, and
Speaker 1: early in the process did she and again he did
Speaker 1: not use the word pander. I did pander to swing
Speaker 1: state voters with data on the economy?
Speaker 2: She sure did.
Speaker 1: She successfully did that, and she did it in each
Speaker 1: quarter hour of the clock. So if you were just
Speaker 1: joining it after watching a ball game, no matter when
Speaker 1: you joined it, you heard a number that indicated that
Speaker 1: his economy was less good than it looked, and hers
Speaker 1: or hers and Biden's was better than it had looked,
Speaker 1: and the one that is upcoming.
Speaker 2: Would be better.
Speaker 1: Yet did she manage to dodge some questions but not
Speaker 1: most or all of them while he continued to dodge.
Speaker 1: It's exactly what happened he looked like he was just
Speaker 1: going to say what he damn well pleased. She managed
Speaker 1: to answer virtually every question, although her answers about Hamas
Speaker 1: and the Middle East and the war and Israel were
Speaker 1: basically boilt plate. And I'll ask you to actually see
Speaker 1: if you can remember what her conclusion was to this,
Speaker 1: other than getting the hostages out and getting a ceasefire.
Speaker 1: Not that that's a bad conclusion, but in the environment there,
Speaker 1: she did not come down on one side or another
Speaker 1: and did not explain how those things would be achieved.
Speaker 1: Did she remind them? O'Brien's last point was that Trump
Speaker 1: is in it for himself to stay out of jail.
Speaker 1: She said, Trump is in it for himself. An extraordinary
Speaker 1: performance from Kamala Harris. I don't know how it could
Speaker 1: have been much better. The closing statement was formal and
Speaker 1: presidential and a little austere, and it suffered only in
Speaker 1: comparison to the first You know, ninety minutes of her
Speaker 1: performance an A plus all the way through. I'm sorry
Speaker 1: you only get an A for your closing remarks. They
Speaker 1: sounded a little rehearsed by that point. I don't think
Speaker 1: it mattered. Let's review five or six things further that
Speaker 1: happened with videotape clips, the first of them being it's
Speaker 1: not necessary really to listen to what Trump is saying here,
Speaker 1: but just to watch her hand on her chin and
Speaker 1: the quiet laughter. The microphones were shut off. Sure, guess what,
Speaker 1: you can pantomime things, and Kamala Harris did that successfully
Speaker 1: tonight too.
Speaker 3: She's a Marxist. Everybody knows she's a Marxist. Her father's
Speaker 3: a Marxist professor in economics, and he taught her well.
Speaker 3: But when you look at what she's done to our country,
Speaker 3: and when you look at these millions and millions of
Speaker 3: people that are pouring into our country monthly, where it's
Speaker 3: I believe twenty one million people, not the fifteen that
Speaker 3: people say, and I think it's a lot higher than
Speaker 3: the twenty one. That's bigger than New York State pouring in.
Speaker 2: Thank you, this just in this just handed to me.
Speaker 1: I wanted to read you the lead from the New
Speaker 1: York Times, the holy goddamn New York Times, which, as
Speaker 1: you know, has set out the entirety of this presidential election,
Speaker 1: because nothing that happens to this country would affect the
Speaker 1: New York Times. There will always be in New York Times?
Speaker 1: Right right? Did I do the meme correctly? Live updates?
Speaker 1: Vice President Kamala Harris shook the hand to former President
Speaker 1: Donald J. Trump as she walked on stage, then spent
Speaker 1: the next ninety minutes making every effort to burrow under
Speaker 1: his skin. Wow, Associated Press again. Christy blasts Trump debate prep.
Speaker 1: This is when everybody who said I told you so,
Speaker 1: particularly on the conservative side, about Donald Trump, gets to
Speaker 1: say it again, only they'll find an audience to put
Speaker 1: them on TV again. To the Associated Press, whoever did
Speaker 1: debate prep for Donald Trump should be fired.
Speaker 2: Chris Christy says ABC News.
Speaker 1: He helped prep Trump for debates in previous election cycles
Speaker 1: and is now at Trump critic And here it is
Speaker 1: no surprise. Trump thinks he did well during the debate.
Speaker 1: People are saying big win tonight, he posted on truth Social,
Speaker 1: his social media site. He also complained about the moderators.
Speaker 1: I thought that was my best debate ever, especially since
Speaker 1: it was three on one. Well it was, it was
Speaker 1: in fact two on one because clearly the goal of
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris was to destroy Donald Trump, and the goal
Speaker 1: of Donald Trump was also to destroy Donald Trump. Another clip.
Speaker 1: What was that again about the mikes being off? There
Speaker 1: are Mike's and there are mikes, and there is off
Speaker 1: and there is off.
Speaker 3: I have been a leader on fertilization IVF and the
Speaker 3: other thing. They you should ask will she allow abortion
Speaker 3: in the eighth month, ninth month, seventh month? Come on, okay,
Speaker 3: would you do that? Why don't you ask me that question?
Speaker 2: That's the question because under v question.
Speaker 3: You could do abortions in the seventh month, the eighth month,
Speaker 3: the ninth month, and probably after birth. Just look at
Speaker 3: the governor, former governor of Virginia. The governor of Virginia said,
Speaker 3: we put the baby aside and then we determine what
Speaker 3: we want to do with a baby.
Speaker 1: Trump.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Another dish just In Off Instagram Taylor Swift. This is
Speaker 1: not the best of her many good compositions, but it
Speaker 1: will do. Particularly the finish. The last part of the
Speaker 1: lyrics here is a rather exciting. Like many of you,
Speaker 1: she writes, I watch the debate tonight if you haven't already,
Speaker 1: now is a great time to do your research on
Speaker 1: the issues at hand and the stances these candidates take
Speaker 1: on the topics that matter to you the most. As
Speaker 1: a voter, I make sure to watch and read everything
Speaker 1: I can about their proposed policies and plans for this country. Recently,
Speaker 1: I was made aware that AI of me falsely endorsing
Speaker 1: Donald Trump's presidential run was posted to his site. It
Speaker 1: really conjured up my fears around AI and the dangers
Speaker 1: of spreading misinformation. It brought me to the conclusion that
Speaker 1: I need to be very transparent about my actual plans
Speaker 1: for this election. As a voter, the simplest way to
Speaker 1: combat misinformation is with the truth. Do I hear screaming
Speaker 1: Swifties out there on sixth Avenue? Why yes, I do.
Speaker 1: I will be casting my vote for Kamala Harris and
Speaker 1: Tim Walls in the twenty twenty four presidential election. I'm
Speaker 1: voting for Kamala Harris by the way, at Kamala Harris
Speaker 1: to direct you to her Instagram account because she fights
Speaker 1: for the rights and causes I believe need a warrior
Speaker 1: to champion them. I think she is a steady handed,
Speaker 1: gifted leader, and I believe we can accomplish so much
Speaker 1: more in this country if we were led by calm
Speaker 1: and not chaos. I was so heartened and impressed by
Speaker 1: her selection of running mate Tim Walls, who has been
Speaker 1: standing up for LGBTQ plus rights, IVF and a women's
Speaker 1: right to her own body for decades. I've done my research,
Speaker 1: she's not done yet, and I've made my choice. Your
Speaker 1: research is all yours to do, and the choice is
Speaker 1: yours to make. I also want to say, especially to
Speaker 1: first time voters, remember that in order to vote, you
Speaker 1: have to be registered. I also find it's much easier
Speaker 1: to vote early. I'll link where to register and find
Speaker 1: early vote dates and info in my story with Love
Speaker 1: and Hope Taylor Swift Childless cat Lady. So the JD
Speaker 1: vance approach to things really worked well, as did whoever
Speaker 1: put out the artificial intelligence version of Taylor Swift. We
Speaker 1: can now officially declare the state of Swift. Deanna has
Speaker 1: gone for Kamala Harris. There was a moment in here
Speaker 1: where as I mentioned before, Trump.
Speaker 2: Really lost it.
Speaker 1: As Tim O'Brien so aptly pointed out in the checklist
Speaker 1: I read before, how do you get under Donald Trump's skin?
Speaker 1: There are some easy buttons to push. As The Times
Speaker 1: put it, she was burrowing under his skin throughout. There
Speaker 1: was a moment where she accused him of being the
Speaker 1: worst thing you could accuse Trump of being.
Speaker 5: And I'm going to actually do something really unusual, and
Speaker 5: I'm going to invite you to attend one of Donald
Speaker 5: Trump's rallies because it's a really interesting thing to watch.
Speaker 5: You will see during the course of his rallies he
Speaker 5: talks about fictional characters like Hannibal Lecter. He will talk
Speaker 5: about wind mills cause cancer. And what you will also
Speaker 5: notice is that people start leaving his rallies early out
Speaker 5: of exhaustion and boredom. And I will tell you the
Speaker 5: one thing you will not hear him talk about is you.
Speaker 5: You will not hear him talk about your needs, your dreams,
Speaker 5: and your need and your desires. And I'll tell you,
Speaker 5: I believe you deserve a president who actually puts you first,
Speaker 5: and I pledge to you that I will.
Speaker 1: I didn't like that particularly. It was also the matter
Speaker 1: of criminality. There was an attempt of Trump, as there
Speaker 1: has been throughout the entirety of the process of correctly
Speaker 1: assessing the damage and responsibility for what he did to
Speaker 1: this country on January sixth, where he tried to enact
Speaker 1: a political version of nine to eleven. Since we are
Speaker 1: about an hour away from the anniversary of that solemn occasion.
Speaker 1: It's a proper analysis and a proper correlation between that
Speaker 1: and what happened in January twenty twenty one. And it
Speaker 1: was a rather extraordinary moment when they got talking and
Speaker 1: debating the subject of criminality, and it did not go
Speaker 1: well for Trump, and I suppose that shouldn't have been
Speaker 1: a surprise to anybody.
Speaker 4: Really quick response to her Vice President Harris on this
Speaker 4: notion of weaponization of the Justice Department, Well.
Speaker 5: Let's talk about extreme and understand the context in which
Speaker 5: this election in twenty twenty four is taking place. The
Speaker 5: United States Supreme Court recently ruled that the former president
Speaker 5: would essentially be immune from any misconduct if he were
Speaker 5: to enter the White House. Again, Understand, this is someone
Speaker 5: who has openly said he would terminate I'm quoting, terminate
Speaker 5: the Constitution of the United States, that he would weaponize
Speaker 5: the Department of Justice against his political enemies, someone who
Speaker 5: has openly expressed disdain for members of our military. Understand
Speaker 5: what it would mean if Donald Trump were back in
Speaker 5: the White House with no guardrails, because certainly we know
Speaker 5: now the Court won't stop and we know JD. Vance
Speaker 5: is not going to stop him. It's up to the
Speaker 5: American people to stop him.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Vice President Harris in your last run for president.
Speaker 2: This is the one that weaponized, not me.
Speaker 3: She weaponized. I probably took a bullet to the head
Speaker 3: because of the things that they say about me. They
Speaker 3: talk about democracy. I'm a threat to democracy. They're the
Speaker 3: threat to democracy. Was a fake Russia Russia Russia investigation
Speaker 3: that went nowhere.
Speaker 2: We will allow to get to Lindsay.
Speaker 1: If you'll notice that whenever mister Trump is particularly bothered
Speaker 1: by anything anybody else says, he refers to them as
Speaker 1: this is the one. It's an old Mitt Romney line.
Speaker 1: I'm sure Trump will enjoy being compared to Mitt Romney
Speaker 1: when he said of Obama, this one, we know what
Speaker 1: that is, cleaned up terminology for. We know what that is.
Speaker 1: Trump didn't like what happened tonight. I don't care what
Speaker 1: he wrote on social media. He didn't like what happened tonight.
Speaker 1: And he may even have a glimmer, vague idea of
Speaker 1: what happened tonight. He did not present what he needed
Speaker 1: to do. As crazy as the things he said in
Speaker 1: the first debate against Joe Biden were he had remained
Speaker 1: calm throughout. He didn't make a big deal about what
Speaker 1: was happening on the stage. To the president, he retained
Speaker 1: a sense of calm. And as I said here and
Speaker 1: not so much, not so much tonight, there was then
Speaker 1: an extraordinary moment in which you know, what were we
Speaker 1: expecting in an hour and a half long debate, fifty
Speaker 1: sixty outright fabrications and lies, all of them familiar. Well,
Speaker 1: we have a new one. We have Kamala Harris wants
Speaker 1: to take your tax money to perform transgender operations on
Speaker 1: illegal immigrants.
Speaker 2: We're eating ducks now.
Speaker 3: She wants to do transgender operations or a llegue aliens
Speaker 3: that are in prison. This is a radical left liberal
Speaker 3: that would do this. She wants to confiscate you guns,
Speaker 3: and she will never allow fracking in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: Of all the things Katala Hier said or did tonight,
Speaker 1: and anything that results from this in the polls, anything
Speaker 1: that results from this in the Taylor Swift endorsement, anything
Speaker 1: that results in this in terms of fundraising, The fact
Speaker 1: that she was able to manage for ninety minutes almost
Speaker 1: without interruption, a look of I'm about to burst into laughter,
Speaker 1: but I'll manage to control myself because I love the flag.
Speaker 1: Is something I've never seen before in politics. Well, I
Speaker 1: shouldn't say that. It's a glimmer of what Barack Obama
Speaker 1: could do. And I saw it firsthand when I moderated
Speaker 1: a unofficially called debate.
Speaker 2: It was a candidate's forum. It was a cattle call.
Speaker 1: There were still nine Democrats running for president, and we
Speaker 1: had all but one of them out on a stage
Speaker 1: in Chicago. And every time, even when it wasn't on camera,
Speaker 1: that somebody said something about Barack Obama, he would give
Speaker 1: a little, a little look that was just just dismissive
Speaker 1: enough that you went, this is a sharp guy, without
Speaker 1: going I like this guy. He's being too dismissive. She
Speaker 1: managed to walk a tight rope through that entire ninety
Speaker 1: minutes in which she looked like she was about to
Speaker 1: burst out laughing, and he meanwhile looked like he was
Speaker 1: about to burst out from behind the podium and take
Speaker 1: a swing at her. A clean victory for Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1: In fact, I would suggest a shutout victory for Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1: I don't think anything Trump said about her would have
Speaker 1: stuck because it was as crazy as and I know
Speaker 1: I added the part about the ducks. He really didn't
Speaker 1: invoke ducks. He just said they want to perform transgender
Speaker 1: surgery on illegal immigrants. He really does sound like somebody
Speaker 1: who heard a newscast and then was asked to repeat
Speaker 1: it from memory while drunk and seventy eight years old
Speaker 1: and not quite right in the head.
Speaker 2: For most of those seventy eight years.
Speaker 1: Lastly, I want to shay one more thing here and
Speaker 1: again this is whatever's be being said doesn't matter. I
Speaker 1: started to notice this very early on because I have
Speaker 1: a sweaty thing here on my lip. Whatever this is
Speaker 1: called between the two halves of your lip. I know
Speaker 1: there's a technical term for it. I looked it up once.
Speaker 1: I have a mental block against it because every once
Speaker 1: in a while, when you don't see me on camera,
Speaker 1: I have to do something like this. I've had to
Speaker 1: do it since I started in television in nineteen eighty one.
Speaker 1: So when I see it in others, I go that
Speaker 1: guy's got a sweaty lip. The last thirty minutes of
Speaker 1: this debate, even with two commercial breaks where somebody could
Speaker 1: have come out and gone out of President Trump, you
Speaker 1: have you have some stuff on your lips.
Speaker 2: It didn't do it. Let's see what the tape looks
Speaker 2: like on this.
Speaker 5: But let's understand how we got to where we are.
Speaker 5: Donald Trump, when he was president, negotiated one of the
Speaker 5: weakest deals you can imagine. He calls himself a deal maker.
Speaker 5: Even his national security advisor said it was a weak,
Speaker 5: terrible deal.
Speaker 1: See it, you see it? Do you see it right there?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I have nightmares where I look like that.
Speaker 1: And his went on for half an hour in front
Speaker 1: of who knows, we'll find out fifty sixty seventy million people.
Speaker 1: Who knows how many people saw. And the oldest praise
Speaker 1: of show business is the one that applied at the
Speaker 1: very end for Donald Trump. Never let them see you sweat,
Speaker 1: And everybody saw him sweat. Of all the things we've
Speaker 1: seen happened to Trump during this nightmare decade of Trump
Speaker 1: in ascendency and then to the presidency and then as
Speaker 1: this president in exile and then this kind of late
Speaker 1: Napoleonic figure, of all the things we've seen, we've never
Speaker 1: really seen him.
Speaker 2: Get his come upance. Yet.
Speaker 1: I think perhaps he's going to get his come upance now.
Speaker 1: And lastly, it is perhaps an indicator that we got
Speaker 1: to the stage where this fight, this debate was over
Speaker 1: six seven minutes in and it was just a question
Speaker 1: how bad it was going to be. Unlike the one
Speaker 1: with Biden and Trump, but this was different because there
Speaker 1: was no sense of anyone potentially having sympathy for Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: This was just watching the guy get the crap beaten
Speaker 1: out of him again and again and again. And one
Speaker 1: way I knew it was coming was how quickly, how
Speaker 1: quickly he actually went to and in fact, whether he
Speaker 1: would go to at all. This weakest, dumbest, most quickly dismissed,
Speaker 1: most self defeating of complete nightmare, bullshit, fantasy scenarios, the
Speaker 1: ones about the guys in Ohio eating the cats and dogs, ducks, geese,
Speaker 1: the tree is going to scurry when I take you
Speaker 1: out in the surrey. I'm sorry I broke into Oklahoma
Speaker 1: there for a moment. In Springfield. He said, they're eating
Speaker 1: the dogs the people that came in. They're eating the cats,
Speaker 1: They're eating the pets of the people that live there,
Speaker 1: to which David Muhir, the moderator, the principal moderator, simply said, no,
Speaker 1: they're not. We checked with the officials there, and then
Speaker 1: Trump insisted that those officials had to be lying were
Speaker 1: wrong because he saw people on TV. There is However,
Speaker 1: still we will never be rid of this. It's true
Speaker 1: in any population, there's always ten percent of people who
Speaker 1: are functionally insane, ten percent of people who are going
Speaker 1: to be racist, ten percent of people who are going
Speaker 1: to be interested in only themselves. When they bind together
Speaker 1: in a grand coalition with the other people who have
Speaker 1: various grievances, we get a President Trump, we get an
Speaker 1: Adolph Hitler, we get a Napoleon to bring him up
Speaker 1: into this again. We get any one of a dozen
Speaker 1: different Russian leaders in any one of a dozen different
Speaker 1: forms of government. But here we have this percentage of
Speaker 1: people who think that the stories of the ducks and
Speaker 1: the cats and the dogs not only are true, but
Speaker 1: somehow redound to Trump's advantage. Trump History forty five is
Speaker 1: an account on Twitter x and that was they posted
Speaker 1: a meme today that might be the greatest bad meme
Speaker 1: I have ever seen. I would like to show it
Speaker 1: to you now and then offer you a few comments
Speaker 1: on this meme. I didn't want to interrupt your laughter
Speaker 1: there it was. Put it back up for a second.
Speaker 1: Because I want to point something out here. First of all,
Speaker 1: you're goddamn right, I'm eating that duck that could serve
Speaker 1: a family of three hundred. Look at the size of
Speaker 1: that duck that he's on, or goose or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: I don't want to make fun of this. I'm a
Speaker 1: pet lover. I'm very upset that I'm out this late
Speaker 1: at night. My dogs are home. They're worried about me,
Speaker 1: and they're also not watching the show. But that's another
Speaker 1: story between me and the dogs. He's not the man
Speaker 1: America it deserves, it says, he is the man American needs.
Speaker 1: That's right, riding on a giant duck or goose while
Speaker 1: holding six cats, and show it one more time and
Speaker 1: then we'll be done with the duck. Just show it
Speaker 1: one more time because this is the best part. Well,
Speaker 1: that's good too. That's not the duck.
Speaker 2: That's me.
Speaker 1: I recognize me anywhere. That's a reminder that we're on
Speaker 1: every day with the podcast. But if we yes the duck, please.
Speaker 1: It's bad enough that this went out. And it turns
Speaker 1: out that the duck story originated from a Nazi group
Speaker 1: last month at a town hall meeting in Springfield, Ohio
Speaker 1: that came out late this afternoon.
Speaker 2: But take a good look at the back of the duck.
Speaker 1: Please don't tell Donald Trump where Donald duck that his
Speaker 1: ass is on fire.
Speaker 2: That's the kind of political commentary.
Speaker 1: I and I alone can provide you a couple of
Speaker 1: questions before we wrap this up in an hour, and
Speaker 1: I thank you for your attention and staying with us
Speaker 1: once again. I mean, what sort of questions could you
Speaker 1: have after this? Do you think she won by two
Speaker 1: hundred points or do you think she won by three
Speaker 1: hundred points? You, Franklin, writes Keith, what do you make
Speaker 1: of Harris's non answer on the climate? Yes it is
Speaker 1: a threat, and yes she's boostering fracking with her whole
Speaker 1: chest and ensuring we contribute to our ongoing nightmare in progress.
Speaker 1: I am of the opinion that we have one more
Speaker 1: period of time, one brief span less probably than a
Speaker 1: presidential administration, to make some movement to mitigate the coming
Speaker 1: climate disaster, the one that is already underway. I have
Speaker 1: no delusions about this. It is one of the few times,
Speaker 1: as I hit retirement age and my sixty fifth birthday
Speaker 1: this year, that I thought, well, hell, I'll be soon
Speaker 1: it's your problem.
Speaker 2: I don't mean to be cynical.
Speaker 1: About it, but that really is an option that looks
Speaker 1: almost charming in a way, that this is coming and
Speaker 1: we have one last chance to control it. Not to stop,
Speaker 1: but that's gone, all right. We have one last chance
Speaker 1: to control it, and that is to make sure that
Speaker 1: a guy who doesn't believe it's true and is only
Speaker 1: worried about the money that all of the means that
Speaker 1: the planet is being destroyed with only can conceive of
Speaker 1: the money and nothing else, and does not believe that
Speaker 1: any damage is being caused, we have to make sure
Speaker 1: he's not president of the United States. If Kamala Harris
Speaker 1: wants to pledge to go out and personally run fracking
Speaker 1: equipment in the middle of downtown Philadelphia, I'll applaud her,
Speaker 1: particularly if it gets her Pennsylvania. I think you need
Speaker 1: to be a little practical about this one and run
Speaker 1: with it, and we see where we go from there.
Speaker 1: Because the key climate decisions are going to be much
Speaker 1: larger than just fracking, not that cracking is a part
Speaker 1: of it. The whole issue of getting away from fossil
Speaker 1: fuels is much larger, and it is to be decided
Speaker 1: I think principally for the history of the human race
Speaker 1: between Donald Trump being president and Kamala Harris being president.
Speaker 1: So I'll take the fracking not on a permanent basis.
Speaker 1: And by the way, she didn't say how much. There's
Speaker 1: one fracking operation in Pennsylvania and we're operating it as
Speaker 1: a kind of old timer's day for those remaining frackers.
Speaker 1: Awakening Death has written on Twitter X you have a
Speaker 1: fun handle question for KO. Is the Kamala honeymoon phase over?
Speaker 1: And does the reality check internal conflict phase finally begin
Speaker 1: for the GOP. I'm guessing that you're asking whether or
Speaker 1: not the GOP will stop suggesting that this is just
Speaker 1: a honeymoon phase. I don't know what they do at
Speaker 1: this point. I really don't know what they do at
Speaker 1: this point. All the polls are the exception of the
Speaker 1: New York Times over the weekend, which had Trump ahead slightly.
Speaker 1: Every poll since Amala Harris became the nominee, and in fact,
Speaker 1: since the day that Joe Biden dropped out of the race,
Speaker 1: every poll has tended towards her. The growth in the
Speaker 1: Swing States has always been towards her, with occasional circle
Speaker 1: backs where she moves four points ahead and then gives
Speaker 1: a point back. I suspect that the last set of
Speaker 1: polls where she did that one percent back after the
Speaker 1: immediate glow of the Democratic Convention ended and that newness
Speaker 1: began to wear off and we got towards the colder
Speaker 1: winds of September. On October, I think those reversals will
Speaker 1: be the last ones we will see, because in the
Speaker 1: democratic sense, the honeymoon is over for Kamala Harris and
Speaker 1: the post she kicked the crap out of Trump in
Speaker 1: a debate phase has just begun.
Speaker 2: Also, Taylor Swift in dorst her tonight.
Speaker 1: As Dan Patrick used to say in the old days
Speaker 1: of ESPN one, thanks for being with us. A reminder
Speaker 1: once again, I'm on the podcast now five days a week.
Speaker 1: We will post every night because I'm an idiot. I
Speaker 1: should be retired in at home and now I'm going
Speaker 1: to work on Sundays as well. The Monday morning ones
Speaker 1: will be short, but you can watch it on YouTube
Speaker 1: by five or six am each day and you can
Speaker 1: get it wherever you podcast each night at twelve fifteen
Speaker 1: am EDT except probably for this one because it's almost
Speaker 1: twelve fifteen am.
Speaker 3: EDT.
Speaker 1: I thank you for being with us. I think Trump
Speaker 1: is probably still standing somewhere, glowering and making the fool
Speaker 1: out of himself, and I know I will sleep well tonight.
Speaker 1: I hope you do too. For all of us who
Speaker 1: helped produce this and get it on the air, for
Speaker 1: you and the other ones we have done, I thank you,
Speaker 1: and I wish.
Speaker 2: You good night and good luck.
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