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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, February. This is check Wise Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: And now a guy who's frequently recommended for the dunk Tank,

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Speaker 1: Jane Peace Shadra, Welcome in. It is Jaguars Happy Hour

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Speaker 1: on this Thursday afternoon. Busy show ahead. This was coming

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Speaker 1: up today, Oh, Jeff Jeff Lgerman's coming up today? Jaguars

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Speaker 1: analysts joins us most every Thursday. NFL scott in Combine

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Speaker 1: coming up next week in Indianapolis. The focus of the

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Speaker 1: NFL world will be an indie franchise tag talk the

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Speaker 1: deadline coming up March eight. Will the Jags make a

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Speaker 1: move there? And we'll go around the NFL. Plenty of

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Speaker 1: news leading into the Combine next week. Jeff Logoman, good afternoon,

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Speaker 1: what's up. That's all good man, It's good to be

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Speaker 1: here scouting Combine, right they? I guess they kind of

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Speaker 1: settled their differences. I guess you could sell. Apparently there

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Speaker 1: was a group of players and their agents that did

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Speaker 1: not want to be bubbled. That was originally they were

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Speaker 1: going to be bubbled in the hotel room and only

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Speaker 1: a certain few people could be around the actual players. Well,

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Speaker 1: I guess the agent said, you know what, that's not

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Speaker 1: gonna work. We're just gonna boycott. I think there was

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Speaker 1: about a hundred fifty that we're gonna boycott actual combine,

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Speaker 1: which that's that's sub sizable chunk of talent and UF well,

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Speaker 1: and I get it. I mean, first of all, I mean,

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Speaker 1: come on, I mean if if look, first of all,

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Speaker 1: I'm not a big fan of all these handlers at

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Speaker 1: the players need Okay, let me just say that, but

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Speaker 1: if you're asking somebody to come there, then shouldn't you

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Speaker 1: essentially make sure that the terms are okay for them

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Speaker 1: because they're not getting aid, they're not union members while

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Speaker 1: they are at the combine. And so this is not

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Speaker 1: a this is not a negotiation here. This is because

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Speaker 1: the players that are invited to the combine are not

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Speaker 1: unionized members. They're not getting paid. So all of these

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Speaker 1: things and and the whole essence of the combine is

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Speaker 1: for the clubs to gather information in one place, to

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Speaker 1: save millions of dollars by doing it in one central location,

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Speaker 1: be spent to do it all separately or in some

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Speaker 1: other way. So you would think that they should have said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: whatever you need will be more than happy to satisfy

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Speaker 1: I'm glad that the players got that. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: if they want to have a nutritionist, if they want

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Speaker 1: Let them have it, as long as it doesn't interfere

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Speaker 1: with what the NFL is asking them to do while

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Speaker 1: think I think it's a great The NFL combine has

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Speaker 1: changed so much, and it's changed so much because it

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Speaker 1: has become I mean really it's kind of become a

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Speaker 1: spectator sport. It's a prime time spectator store. Yeah, on

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Speaker 1: TV TV made the the NFL Draft, and the information

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Speaker 1: leading up to the draft is just it's incredible. I mean,

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Speaker 1: information on all these prospects. Everybody wants to have a

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Speaker 1: mock draft, and where's your I haven't done. I haven't done.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I will, maybe I will, but it's uh, but

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Speaker 1: it's pretty cool that this has become a very popular thing.

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Speaker 1: Back years ago, when when I went there, it was, yeah,

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Speaker 1: this the back In those days, also, there were fifteen

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Speaker 1: and then guys will rotate. You have somebody to bring

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Speaker 1: you don't keep Cam, that's subtraction. And you can't look

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Speaker 1: at it and say, well, hey, look we're gonna get

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Speaker 1: the kid from Alabama. He's gonna be able to walk

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Speaker 1: right in and just be just as good as Cam.

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Speaker 1: And that may not happen, but you do have to

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Speaker 1: have a plan with that. But again, I like to

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Speaker 1: create competition with addition, and uh, and I think it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be very interesting to watch, and we should have

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Speaker 1: a pretty good idea of where it's going to be

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Speaker 1: heavy because of what's the first day of what's the

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Speaker 1: first colendar day of the league year, which free agency.

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Speaker 1: We're talking a couple of weeks away here, which is

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Speaker 1: not far so we're gonna be able to find out

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Speaker 1: here pretty soon what's gonna be happening. Then there's the

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Speaker 1: interior of the line question marks too. I mean, what's

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Speaker 1: gonna happen there? He's coming up free agent chat is

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Speaker 1: a free agent paying Lender? You know, there's all that. Well,

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Speaker 1: and that's the we set it in the past, and

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Speaker 1: that if you if you want to keep Brandon Lender.

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Speaker 1: And look, I love Brandon Lender. I like him as

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Speaker 1: a player, I like him as a person. I like

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Speaker 1: a lot of things about Brandon Lender. Been a very

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Speaker 1: good leader for this football team. He when he's been available,

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Speaker 1: he's been really good. The availability has had some issues

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Speaker 1: over the course of the last four or five years,

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Speaker 1: and so Shatley has always kind of been that when

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Speaker 1: you signed Lender, and then you look at signing the

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Speaker 1: one and if that's one A. Then one B is

457
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Speaker 1: trying to keep somebody's a really good quality backup in

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Speaker 1: that Shatley, who I think somebody should sign in free

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Speaker 1: agency and make him their starter. I think he's pretty

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Speaker 1: good player. He's not better than Lender, but he's been available,

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Speaker 1: and so I think it will be interesting to see

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Speaker 1: where this organization ends up going in that direction. Could

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Speaker 1: they in fact go into the draft. Kansas City did it.

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Speaker 1: I mean they completely revamped their offensive line completely and

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Speaker 1: partly through the draft with arguably one of the best

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Speaker 1: rookie players in all of football this past year. The

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Speaker 1: young man that they got it was really good. I

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Speaker 1: can't remember his name. It was the center's name for

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Speaker 1: Kansas City, Ky drawing a blank. Yeah. Um, so there

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Speaker 1: you have it. There will be a lot of this

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Speaker 1: next couple of weeks. It will get busier, all the

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Speaker 1: headlines and things will come out of the combine and

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Speaker 1: then one thing start start happening. They have got to

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Speaker 1: find some weapons on offense. Just throw the ball with somebody.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they have to find impactful players on the offense. Defensively,

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Speaker 1: They've got to find a way to get and whether

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Speaker 1: this be through the draft or whatever, they got to

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Speaker 1: find a way to affect the quarterback. They weren't able

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Speaker 1: to do that consistently enough. And there's definitely a the

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Speaker 1: pieces in the middle of the defensive line are weak.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to defense coming up. I was told Creed Humphrey.

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Speaker 1: Is that who who was offensive? I think so, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there you go. Thanks Joe Fortunato with the assistant with

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Speaker 1: the computer, Yes, the Google machine. We're back in a

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Speaker 1: moment and defensive talk affecting the quarterback. Big part of

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Speaker 1: what the Jaguars need to get done on defense will

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Speaker 1: here from Mike Caldwell, also the Jaguars defensive coordinator. Renewed

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Speaker 1: to the NFL Draft in Las Vegas. And this is

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. That's the

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Speaker 1: thing we want to go out there. We want to

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Speaker 1: be aggressive. We want to play aggressive style of defense.

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Speaker 1: Want to attack the offense and make them adjust us

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Speaker 1: and understand what they're doing and just be able to

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Speaker 1: go out there and have fun and fly around and

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Speaker 1: make place how closely or how much I guess the

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Speaker 1: question is did you talk to Todd about defensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: responsibilities and what do you expect the transition? Uh? Maybe

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Speaker 1: the biggest challenge. I think we've were together so long.

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Speaker 1: I was able to understand some us the role and

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Speaker 1: now being put into that role. Just understanding that you

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Speaker 1: know you have a plan detailed, detailed about it and

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Speaker 1: goes back to teaching. I'm able to teach my coaches

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Speaker 1: what I know, what I want to get accomplished, and

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Speaker 1: then we'll all teach that to the players. And if

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Speaker 1: you communicate and get everybody on the same page, success

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Speaker 1: will come. That's Mike Caldwell, Jaguars defensive coordinator visiting with

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Speaker 1: John Osier. Who you heard there. It's on the ozone

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Speaker 1: podcast today and tomorrow on the Official Jaguars podcast network

514
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: and the I Heart Radio app. J P Shadrick, Jeff Logerman.

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Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour, you know, and he mentioned Todd there.

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Speaker 1: Todd Bowles is who they were speaking of, the defensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator in Tampa Bay and by the way, I think

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Speaker 1: Todd bowl should be a head coach in this league.

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Speaker 1: I really do um I thought I thought he did

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Speaker 1: a really good job, and with his previous opportunity and

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Speaker 1: then I was with a bad organization, didn't really get

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to kind of finish the job. And sometimes

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Speaker 1: you've got to have the right players to make things work.

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Speaker 1: But I've always liked him. I've always kind of been

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Speaker 1: a fan of his from AFAR, and so I appreciate

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Speaker 1: that Mike called Well has learned a lot from him,

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Speaker 1: because I think he's a really good coach. Their defenses

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Speaker 1: they got, they got. That's some really good talent. But

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Speaker 1: what I like about what they do is that they

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Speaker 1: don't try to be too cute, and that they allow

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Speaker 1: the players to to utilize there their skills and their talents,

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Speaker 1: and they put players in a position to succeed. And

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Speaker 1: what a lot of people say, what does that mean? Well,

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Speaker 1: if a guy is good at doing A, you don't

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Speaker 1: ask him to do B or C or D. You

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Speaker 1: put him in a position to do A as often

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Speaker 1: as you can. And that's what the kind of coach

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Speaker 1: that Todd Bolts has always been. And Mike called well.

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Speaker 1: I've always I watched him more from his playing days,

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Speaker 1: don't know much. I don't know a lot about him

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Speaker 1: as a coach because I haven't been around him, but

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Speaker 1: I knew that when he was a player, he was

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Speaker 1: a really good football player, solid football player. His days

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Speaker 1: from the Browns, I thought he was really solid, and

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Speaker 1: obviously when they made the transition over to Baltimorrow, I

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Speaker 1: thought he was still really good player at that point.

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Speaker 1: And uh, and so I think it's great for him.

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Speaker 1: It's a great opportunity for him. I also like the

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Speaker 1: fact that they have Bob Sutton still on staff. They

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Speaker 1: kept him, and that's somebody that the head coach has

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Speaker 1: had some experience with. In Kansas City, when Doug Peterson

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Speaker 1: was there, Bob Sutton was a defensive coordinator. Bob Sutton

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Speaker 1: been around a long time, and when you have a

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Speaker 1: first time defensive coordinator, I think it's very important that

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Speaker 1: you have somebody that's on that side of the ball

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Speaker 1: that has a little bit of experience that hey, look,

557
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Speaker 1: when you get in a situation that, hey, experience matters,

558
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Speaker 1: and when you don't have that experience to be able

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Speaker 1: to bounce ideas off of somebody that does have experience.

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Speaker 1: I think that's incredibly important. So I think it's a

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Speaker 1: real good situation for Mike to be able to succeed

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Speaker 1: in and obviously need to get some more talent on

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Speaker 1: that side of the ball. And with the draft picks

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Speaker 1: and free agency and the cash cap room you got

565
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Speaker 1: and you should be able to do that. He mentioned

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Speaker 1: he wanted to be aggressive, have an aggressive defense. What

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Speaker 1: does that mean to you? Well, I think it depends

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Speaker 1: on the personnel. I mean, you always want to be aggressive,

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Speaker 1: it you couldn't be aggressive. A lot of people sometimes

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Speaker 1: misinterpret being aggressive as that we're gonna be blitzing, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna be like Buddy Ryan, light of the U. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna send one more than they can block every single time.

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Speaker 1: And what does that do well? That leaves you a

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Speaker 1: little bit delinquent in your coverage. If you look at

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Speaker 1: Todd Bowles, that's a four man rush defense. That's what

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Speaker 1: they like to do well they have. It helps when

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Speaker 1: you have Sue and Vita Van, Jason, Pierre Paul, and

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Speaker 1: Shack Barrett exactly. So being aggressive means is that I

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Speaker 1: think in a lot of times, is being aggressive with

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Speaker 1: the personnel that you have, so that will dictate the

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Speaker 1: type of defense, and and anybody that is worth a

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Speaker 1: grain AsSalt in the in the coaching profession will utilize

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Speaker 1: the personnel because it's never about system. It's never about Hey,

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Speaker 1: my defense is the best, We're gonna make it work.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean some of your ideas might be

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Speaker 1: the best, but you also have to have the personnel

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Speaker 1: to execute. And when you don't have the personnel to execute,

588
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Speaker 1: sometimes you have to do things a little bit differently.

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Speaker 1: Giving a perfect example, Dave McGinnis, who was a long

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Speaker 1: time defensive coordinator defensive coach in the National Football League,

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Speaker 1: was a head coach with the Arizona Cardinals for quite

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Speaker 1: a few years and when when I was doing games

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Speaker 1: for Fox Television, Dave was always one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: guys to talk to because he was just he was

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Speaker 1: very enlightening and I still love talking to him now.

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Speaker 1: He's the color analyst for the Tennessee Titans radio broadcast

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Speaker 1: that they do for every game, and he always used

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Speaker 1: to tell me that at the time when he was

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Speaker 1: the head coach of the Cardinals, he was saying, hey, look,

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Speaker 1: I said, what's your game plan is? Week day? And say, look, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know what we got. We we just

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Speaker 1: we gotta trick it up a little bit. We just

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Speaker 1: we can't manufacture our pass rush with four, so we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get creative. Okay, what does that mean he said, Well,

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Speaker 1: he said, we're gonna try to do it and try

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Speaker 1: to do it mostly without risking ourselves in the back end.

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Speaker 1: So they're gonna send four guys that maybe the offense

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Speaker 1: doesn't expect because the four guys that they have trying

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Speaker 1: to rush on a regular basis, or that the offense

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Speaker 1: would be expecting aren't good enough to win consistently enough.

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Speaker 1: So he would say, we gotta trick it up. But

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Speaker 1: I think those are the type of things that coaches

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Speaker 1: can be aggressive by by sending different guys but maybe

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Speaker 1: not sending more than they have and then leaving your

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Speaker 1: coverage in a delinquent situation. Miles Jack looks to be

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Speaker 1: key on this defense. Yet again, um, you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure exactly what it's going to look like yet.

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Speaker 1: There's still a little early in that world. But Miles

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Speaker 1: has been moved all over this defense over the years,

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Speaker 1: and what do you think of his play overall? Last season?

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Speaker 1: I didn't think very much of it. I think it

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Speaker 1: was very good. No, I don't think he was terrible,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think that. Typically, what you always want

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Speaker 1: to have is that you want to have the play

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Speaker 1: commensurate with the pay, and in football that rarely happened

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Speaker 1: because sometimes you have guys that are outperforming their contract,

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Speaker 1: like you've had with a young running back last two

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Speaker 1: years ago I guess now, and with Jay rob And

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Speaker 1: then you have some guys that are underperforming their contract

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Speaker 1: because maybe you got them in free agency and that's

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Speaker 1: just the market in order to get done, they can't

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Speaker 1: play well enough to match the dollar amount that they're getting,

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Speaker 1: and that's kind of sometimes that happens. That's understood with Miles,

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Speaker 1: who was a guy that you signed before he got

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Speaker 1: the free agency. When you have a guy in that situation,

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Speaker 1: you would always like to have them out performing their contracts. Still,

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Speaker 1: and I think the defensive change affected him. His his

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Speaker 1: perfect defense that he's played in so far was being

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Speaker 1: the eak side linebacker in a four three defense, and

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Speaker 1: when he didn't have to call the place, that's the

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Speaker 1: best situation that he's been. That's when he excelled. When

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Speaker 1: they had him calling plays and playing the mic wasn't

643
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Speaker 1: as good when they had him last year, not calling

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Speaker 1: the plays. Eventually they took a little while to figure

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Speaker 1: that out, and then playing in that three four defense,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't the best that he was at. I mean,

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00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: look at the inns. When I say look at the numbers,

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00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: Look at the numbers that Miles Jack has when from

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Speaker 1: a standpoint of okay, not just tackles, but the other numbers, sacks, interceptions,

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Speaker 1: tackle for losses, passes, defense, caused fumbles, recovered fumbles. Look

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Speaker 1: at those numbers and tell me what they tell you, right,

652
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Speaker 1: I mean, he's more impactful when he was in that spot.

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Speaker 1: That that's my point. Those are the numbers. Those are

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Speaker 1: the numbers in the categories around the football, numbers that

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Speaker 1: you need to have if if you're paying somebody a

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Speaker 1: bunch of money and he's gonna be one of your

657
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: best players, those categories have to be filled up with

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Speaker 1: some numbers. And I'm not saying that he has to,

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00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: you know, have five or six in every category, but

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Speaker 1: you gotta have got to have some numbers in those categories.

661
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: And and last year he did not. Let's come back

662
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: and argue that the other that the other linebacker played

663
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 1: better Wilson, Damian Wilson. You could make that argument that

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00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: Damien Wilson played better last year and he was a

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Speaker 1: guy that you got off the street and free agency

666
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: on what a one year deal? Right? Is he a

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Speaker 1: one year deal? Let me look, But my point being

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Speaker 1: is that it's coming off a couple of runs with

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Speaker 1: Kansas City. So let's look. It wasn't like he was

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Speaker 1: a high priced free agent. No he was not. Yeah

671
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 1: one year deal, Yeah, two million bucks? Two million bucks.

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Speaker 1: So you could you could make the case that Damien

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Speaker 1: Wilson played better than Miles Jack last year, or at

674
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: least played as an equal. I mean, if you compared

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Speaker 1: the numbers. Okay, that's not what you're looking for. And

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00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: so I think Miles Miles has to and I like Miles.

677
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: I think he has to take a step up this year.

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00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 1: If this defense is going to take a step up,

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00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: he has to be a part of those taking a

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Speaker 1: step up. Let's come back, We'll take a live look

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00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: at the construction of the football building. Let's become a

682
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: Thursday tradition. You're not they're not messing around on it. No,

683
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: they're moving on. We're gonna do a time lapse, like

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Speaker 1: you save all these pictures and if they're working on that, Yeah,

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00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. Yeah, we'll come back. We'll do that.

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Speaker 1: We'll go around in the NFL, also including uh saying

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Speaker 1: goodbye to somebody leaving the NFL and going back to college.

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Speaker 1: Who We'll find out in a moment. It's Jaguars Happy

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Speaker 1: Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network, a station that Jaguars

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Speaker 1: listen to ten ten x out home of the Jacksonville Jaguars.

691
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour coming down the stretch on Thursday, and

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Speaker 1: if you're watching on Jaguars dot Com and Jack's social media,

693
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Speaker 1: it's a live look at the Football Performance Center site.

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Speaker 1: They continue to move dirt, more and more dirt being

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Speaker 1: moved by the day, A lot of dirt, a lot

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Speaker 1: of got there and drive some of that equipment out there.

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Speaker 1: I think you'd be qualified for that. You have some

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Speaker 1: experience with that. I do up on the farm. I do.

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Speaker 1: It would be a lot of fun. Would be like

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Speaker 1: playing in the sandbox as a kid, but other this

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Speaker 1: time instead of having the fake Tonka toys, the old

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Speaker 1: metal school, old school, you got real ones, but Tonka trucks. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was a big Tonka truck guy by I think

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Speaker 1: Dad still has mine? Does he really? Where you're plastered?

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Speaker 1: I think they were metal from the metal ones were

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Speaker 1: the old school man. They were money. Oh, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of work going on and it started literally the

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Speaker 1: day after the final game. They roped off to the

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Speaker 1: field and now they're tearing one of them apart. That

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Speaker 1: will be the footprint of the football Performance Center scheduled

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00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,479
Speaker 1: to be open for business and training camp of show.

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Speaker 1: Some decisions to be made of the off season program

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Speaker 1: and where all that's going to be. But welcome back, Jaguars,

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Speaker 1: Happy r J P. Shadrick with Jeff Lackerman and hey,

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Speaker 1: let's go around the National Football League, let's do. Let's

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Speaker 1: reports today that Troy Aikman could be headed to ESPN

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00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: to join Monday Night Football. Well, Al Michaels was expected

718
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: to head to Amazon Prime for Thursday Night Football, and

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Speaker 1: the word was that Aikman was going to join him

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Speaker 1: there for kind of a superstar pairing in the booth. Well, Aikman,

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Speaker 1: I guess, is headed to ESPN. No official word yet.

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Speaker 1: There's no word yet on play by play that would

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Speaker 1: also shake up the rest of the booth on Monday

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Speaker 1: Night Football and sending those analysts elsewhere. So you got

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00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: Troy Eigman competing against Peyton and Eli. So it's a

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Speaker 1: quarterback battle because of ESPN two and ESPN. Tony Romo,

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Speaker 1: by the way, is making eighteen million dollars a year

728
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Speaker 1: at CBS, and you can expect the number to be

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Speaker 1: close to that. I'm sure for Troy. Oh yeah, I mean, uh,

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Speaker 1: Troy has been around a long time. I enjoy listening

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Speaker 1: to Troy. I think he does a really good job

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Speaker 1: of presenting the game from a quarterbacks I and uh

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Speaker 1: and Tony Roma I think is entertaining and some other

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Speaker 1: aspects as far as the way that he sees the game,

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Speaker 1: the way that he tries to predict certain things. Um,

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Speaker 1: he makes it fun and uh, sometimes he is grossly off,

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Speaker 1: but but that can happen when you're playing the guessing

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Speaker 1: game in a broadcast. But but I like, I like,

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Speaker 1: I enjoy both of them. I think they both do

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Speaker 1: a really good job in the entertain Now. I will

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Speaker 1: say this, there's nobody in today's in today's game that

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Speaker 1: surpasses Chris Collinsworth. In my eyes, I think Chris colin Worth,

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Speaker 1: Collinsworth has a great understanding of a couple of things. One,

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Speaker 1: he has a great understanding of the of the big

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Speaker 1: picture of the league as a whole. I think he

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Speaker 1: does a great job of big picture game analysis of

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Speaker 1: a game. But then he can also break down plays

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Speaker 1: from an individual standpoint and be pretty accurate. And I

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Speaker 1: was not a big fan of Chris collins Worth years ago.

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Speaker 1: I thought he was a little bit uh demeaning. I

751
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: think he talked down to the audience at times. But

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Speaker 1: I think now he's a wonderful broadcaster for a wonderful analyst,

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00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: and he, in my opinion, he should be getting paid

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Speaker 1: the most. What's this kind of fallback phrase. It's Here's

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00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 1: a guy. That's what he always starts with. Here's a guy.

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Speaker 1: He does a great job. He does, he does, he's smooths,

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Speaker 1: he's just he's so moves and efficiency with words is

758
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: so important as a broadcaster, and I think that's what

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00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: al Michael's is so good at just it's just amazing

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Speaker 1: at that. And as an analyst, you never expect the

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Speaker 1: same efficiency out of an analyst. But man Collinsworth is

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Speaker 1: as efficient with his words as anybody that's in the business.

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Speaker 1: Let's move to Green Bay and Aaron Rodgers. The saga

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00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: continues with the Packers quarterback. He posted on Instagram the

765
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Speaker 1: other day logs, I know you're all over Instagram. Yeah yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: probably follow him. It was seemingly a goodbye to players

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Speaker 1: and people around him in Green Bay. The next day

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Speaker 1: on the Pat McAfee show, he said that he hadn't

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Speaker 1: come to a decision yet. I didn't. I didn't view

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Speaker 1: it as a goodbye. I didn't read it on Instagram,

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Speaker 1: but I read about it, and I he was just

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Speaker 1: being very thankful. He said that he underwent like an

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Speaker 1: eight or a nine day cleanse. Okay, what exactly that

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Speaker 1: consists of, I really don't want to know. But somehow

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Speaker 1: he came out on the other side with a lot

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Speaker 1: of deep thoughts, you know. So I'm kind of reminded

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Speaker 1: of the Saturday Night Live skit deep thoughts. Okay, Jack Handy,

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00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: was that what it was? So anyway, thanked the girl

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Speaker 1: friend that he broke up with as part of those

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Speaker 1: deep thoughts. And so once I got past that, I'm like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: what exactly were you cleansing out of your body? But

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Speaker 1: also what were you putting in your body? At the

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Speaker 1: same time. M Well, the Packers GM spoke this week. Also,

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Speaker 1: it said that he never promised Rogers that he would

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Speaker 1: trade him after season. He was asked about that. That

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Speaker 1: was very clear back then. There was no promise, mate.

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Speaker 1: So the saga continues, and uh, you know, I would

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Speaker 1: guess fairly soon you might hear something else out of

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Why not it did that? That's gonna be

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Speaker 1: I mean, this all season with Aaron Rodgers and how

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00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: cryptic he can be. What's the situation in Green Bay?

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00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 1: And then you add in the Tom Brady watch. Is

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Speaker 1: he retired or is he not retired? Is he just

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Speaker 1: trying to implement his freedom and free agency so that

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Speaker 1: he can go play in San Francisco. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: just like, okay, well, I mean that's just a it's

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Speaker 1: a never ending kind of a drama situation with that,

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Speaker 1: and Tom Brady has earned the right to do whatever

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Speaker 1: he wants. Speaking of Tom Brady and drama, He's gonna

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Speaker 1: be acting. He'll be playing himself in a movie titled

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Speaker 1: eighty for Brady. It's a football themed road trip movie

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Speaker 1: and it's set to begin production this spring. He'll produce

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Speaker 1: the film and it starts. Get this list, Lily Tomlin,

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Speaker 1: Jane Fonda, Rina Moreno, and Sally Fields not a big

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Speaker 1: fan of Jane Fonda. Four women will try able to

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Speaker 1: see Brady play in the Super Bowl. Fifty two is

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Speaker 1: the flat line and back. A couple of years ago,

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Speaker 1: he created one Productions and that will help him make

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Speaker 1: the film. What does one nine Productions mean? That's his

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00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: draft number? Exactly? Wanted you want just say that because

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Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know that. So he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be in the movie and then producing the movie. He

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Speaker 1: got TB twelve okay to his company that uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna get this thing Productions. Look, he's a smart guy.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna be highly successful. Fall if you got all

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Speaker 1: those things, he'll be highly successful at whatever he chooses

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Speaker 1: to do. Now that the challenges for him is can

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Speaker 1: he be more successful then Roger Stallback? That's tough now, Roger,

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Speaker 1: Roger got it done. After football, Roger Stallback has been

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Speaker 1: the most highly successful quarterback post playing career that has

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Speaker 1: ever been in the National Football League. Highly highly successful

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Speaker 1: businessman made millions and I think Roger Stallback's net worth

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Speaker 1: is gotta be somewhere in the is he is he

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Speaker 1: over two hundred million now three million? I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: it's something that's just amazing and that most guys essentially

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Speaker 1: associate quarterbacks net worth with what they made as a

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Speaker 1: as a player. But Roger Stallback didn't make a whole

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Speaker 1: lot of money as a player. So stall Box started

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Speaker 1: a real estate commercial real estate business in the late seventies.

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Speaker 1: Country was done, and it sold apparently in two thousand

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Speaker 1: eight for six million dollars. And he was the sole

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Speaker 1: proprietor of that company. So that's pretty good. You think

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Speaker 1: you pretty good living. That's the challenge for Tom Brady.

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Speaker 1: Pretty good, listen. I don't know if you can reach

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Speaker 1: that one. One more note, Brian Flores says he declined

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Speaker 1: to sign a Dolphin separation agreement so he could speak

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Speaker 1: out on the treatment by the team. And Flores told

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Speaker 1: Bryant Gumble on HBOS Real Sports all this, I left

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Speaker 1: millions of dollars on the table, but granted him the

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Speaker 1: freedom to talk. So that will be ongoing as we

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Speaker 1: move a head. Now, he did get hired by the Steelers,

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Speaker 1: and Mike Tomlin hired him, It's right, and Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 1: hired him as a senior defensive assistant, which I think

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Speaker 1: Brian Flores should still be head coach in the National

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Speaker 1: Football League. I thought he was doing a really good

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00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: job in Miami. There was a power struggle that was

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Speaker 1: happening between him and the general manager, and uh, that's

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Speaker 1: kind of what many people believe, and he lost out

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Speaker 1: and it's unfortunate. I don't know exactly what's gonna come

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Speaker 1: of some of the accusations that he's made, but there

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Speaker 1: certainly will be a day in court for all of that.

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Speaker 1: And if some of the accusations proved to be act,

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Speaker 1: especially about Mr Ross, the owner of the Miami Dolphins,

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Speaker 1: it will not bode very well for him and his

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Speaker 1: future ownership of the Miami Dolphins. Let's finish with Rams

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Speaker 1: tackle Andrew Whitworth, who was the Walter Peyton Man of

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Speaker 1: the Year, had a fantastic speech at the NFL honors

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Speaker 1: the other week. By the way, happy he now has

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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl ring. Well, He's getting advice from all

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Speaker 1: kind of people about his possible retirement from the NFL,

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Speaker 1: including a phone call from the Great One, Wayne Gretzky

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Speaker 1: lives nearby. They are friends. He's been thinking about retiring

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Speaker 1: still leaning that way, he said, But well, Gretzky said

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Speaker 1: that winning multiple championships is even better than just one,

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Speaker 1: So he's trying to talk him into staying with the Rams.

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Speaker 1: But it sounds like Whitworth, at least from his words,

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Speaker 1: is still leaning towards calling it a career. That's pretty

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Speaker 1: good advice. Yeah, I think that's the That's the coolest

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Speaker 1: thing about that is that Wayne Gretzky actually calls him

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Speaker 1: up and says, hey, man, come on back for another one, which,

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Speaker 1: of course Wayne Gretzky probably has a little bit of

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Speaker 1: l A guy, l A fan. He wants to see

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Speaker 1: the Rams continue to have success. But that had to

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Speaker 1: be probably a cool moment for for Whitworth in that,

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Speaker 1: and he still complained, Now, this is not a forty

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Speaker 1: year old left tackle that was is given a job

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Speaker 1: and there's some young man that can play way better

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Speaker 1: than him. He's still a good football player. He still

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Speaker 1: is excellent and past protection. He doesn't do a whole

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Speaker 1: lot as far and as far as moving guys in

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Speaker 1: the run game, but he still can protect the blind

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Speaker 1: side of a quarterback exceptionally well and Could he do

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Speaker 1: it again if he wanted to at the age of

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Speaker 1: forty one, Absolutely he could. Lars, great show. We'll be

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Speaker 1: with you next week. They'll be at the Combine and End.

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Speaker 1: Ashland Sullivan will host next week's On Thursday, Joe Fortune

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Speaker 1: Brent Reaver for Jeff flogging in a week off. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know about that. I'm J P. Shadrick and

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Speaker 1: it's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.