WEBVTT - Becoming The Homies: with The Ain't Shit Show 0:00:10.840 --> 0:00:14.159 Okay. My mom texted me yesterday around the time when 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:18.400 I'm getting off work, and she said, Gila opened my wallet, 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:21.959 took out my plastic sleeve with picks, then my COVID 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:26.639 inoculation card, voting card, et cetera, left them all under 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:30.880 the table. She may have unzipped it, and after removing 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:35.159 it from my purse. Who knows? I was like, who knows? 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:40.040 Gila is a cat? She's like, she's my mom's cat. 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:44.760 I named her after a beach House song. But it's 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:48.080 the cat at my mom's house. I did all this, 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:53.199 and I said, are you sure you didn't just misplace them? 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:55.720 That seems like a lot for a cat to do. 0:00:56.840 --> 0:01:01.600 And she said she likes the table. Things on the 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:04.280 table are fair game. Guila has skills. 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:13.240 I love your mom, Janey, Oh my god, Gila has skills. 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:13.759 Baby. 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:14.440 Yeah. 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:18.240 No, no, she's the kind of person that like she 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:24.480 she will one like do something wrong and then the 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:27.080 cat yeah, and then be like, I can't believe the 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:27.800 cat would do that. 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:33.200 You know, we need a we need a term. Do 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:35.319 they have a term for female cats like they do 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:36.240 for female dogs? 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:43.440 Ah? Maybe maybe something like scientific maybe cunt was Yeah, 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:45.279 the original that's county. 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:52.440 That's county County. I like, well, welcome to another deranged 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:57.240 episode of Beauty translated. This one is a particular wait 0:01:57.320 --> 0:02:03.200 way queen Aura Molly, that is fierce Producer Jess is 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:06.120 telling us that the name for a female cat is 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:08.880 not a bitch, but in fact a queen or a molly, 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:12.120 which you know what, I think dogs got the short 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:13.720 end of the stick there, you know. 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:16.040 Yeah, they're the bitches. 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:18.080 Yeah, they're the bitches. 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:19.040 Yeah. 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:19.359 Yeah. 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:21.800 Did you know that a baby shrimp is called a shit? 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:23.760 No? 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:24.800 It's not, is it really? 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:25.320 No? 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:32.600 I believed you? Oh my god, I want to see 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:37.280 that in the next David Attenborough documentary. 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:40.080 Is talking about a shits of shrimps. 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:42.639 And here we have a pile of shit. 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:45.520 A bunch of shit, shits of shrimp so hatching for 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:46.320 the springtime. 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:51.360 Well, Jennie, what the fuck are we talking about today? 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:52.800 And the fuck are we talking to? 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:56.600 So today on the show we have our good friends 0:02:56.600 --> 0:03:00.560 and quite literal homies from the Eighth Ship Show, Mars 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:05.720 Ivy and Shogi to tell us all about homeism, what 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:08.920 it means, why it's good, why you should be a 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:13.000 homie too, and why more than likely you probably already 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:16.280 are one if you're listening to this show. So if 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:22.519 my memory serves me correctly, some time around, I want 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:25.919 to say twenty twenty one, when I had first moved 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:29.600 out to the city I made, I had like one 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:32.639 trans friend irl. 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:35.440 Yeah it wasn't me, because I said. 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:38.440 It was not you. Yeah, it was not you because 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:42.000 you were too You were too HSTS. I was too. 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:46.080 I was to AGP, so we could never find love. 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:49.040 You're blurring the lines between HSTS and AGP. 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:50.880 Then, I'm gonna be honest, I don't really know which 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:52.800 ones which sometimes. 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:59.320 Either listen, there's two types of women in this world. 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:05.480 Yees, bitches and shits. I'm not really sure which. When 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:08.840 you throw in acronyms, it's like this, too many letters. 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:12.080 I don't know this could mean anything. 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:15.200 Uh yeah, I love what they actually mean though it's 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:20.320 actually pretty just great. On Blanchard, you know, let it 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:22.680 be known that we don't actually love Blanchard on the 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:25.400 pod or believe anything that he says. But he is 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:27.640 still alive and has a very funny Twitter if you 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:29.360 want to, if you want to troll him on. 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:30.760 Twitter, yeah, let's get him on the show. 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:34.400 We should actually speaking of then he can determine which 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:37.280 of us is HSTS and which of us is agp oh. 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:42.080 I think he can figure it out pretty easily. But 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:45.080 I chatted with these guys all the time. I was 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:50.200 on several episodes of their podcast, The Ain't Shit Show, 0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:55.360 and they're great and they're a great collective of multi racial, 0:04:55.480 --> 0:05:00.560 multi gender, multi diverse gay people, trans people, whatever. So 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:04.559 that's why you're about to hear us talk about gay 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:11.039 eminem songs for probably the next hour and tell like 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:16.600 harrowing tales from Craigslist meet up casual encounters. 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:19.279 Baby, get ready for some casual encounter stories. 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:26.160 This is related to uh Our Our Our Show's mission 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:36.440 statement of interviewing you know, important, yeah, uncompromising voices in 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:39.400 the trans queer community. 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:41.400 Or allies at large. 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:45.599 And I really can't think of a better ally than 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:51.960 the philosophical trailblazers that are Marcos, Ivy and Shaggy and 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:56.440 what they provide to the table with the homie, the 0:05:56.480 --> 0:06:00.679 homie mindset and the homie Manifesto, which we will also 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:04.080 link in the description. Thank you guys for joining us 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:08.160 on another beautiful episode of Beauty Translated, where this time 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:12.320 we really do look at all of the beauty that 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:14.640 is in the world. 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:19.680 Oh baby, there's some beauty. Get your popcorn and your butter, 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:22.560 because we got stories to tell. 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:31.080 When we went on on You Guys Show, I know, 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:34.800 we talked a little about how, you know, we're professionals. 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:39.479 We're sponsored by iHeartMedia, So unlike on all the other 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:43.200 podcasts where we you know, say people's first last name 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:51.919 to address and where they were. 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:53.320 Not going to do that, we're not going to favorite. 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:58.320 But before before we can really get the show on 0:06:58.360 --> 0:06:59.320 the road, get cooking. 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:02.479 Thank you guys for being here. 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:11.640 You guys are the Ain't Ship Show podcast, legendary Internet 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:15.160 friends of mine, uh Me and Marcos and Ivy and 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:19.360 Shocky go way back back to when I was living 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:22.080 in like the shittiest house of my life and Decatur 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:26.040 recording awesome stuff, a lot of funny stuff. If the 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:29.720 listeners of the show I think I'm funny, they should 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:32.880 go back and listen to all of my appearances on there. 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:35.800 There's some very unhinged shit there that I think you 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:36.280 guys would. 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:39.960 Janie recorded some of the best voicemails we've ever gotten 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:44.320 on the podcast Unhinged Deranged Things, I'm gonna be honest, I. 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:46.240 Don't even fucking remember that. 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:51.040 Remember a Trucker Janey was a legendary voice. 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:55.600 Wow, I want to can we try to bring her back? 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:56.800 I'll send it to you. 0:07:56.880 --> 0:08:00.920 It's yeah, it's you if you wing into the phone 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:07.680 and being like, I don't want to Trugger can't be pregnant. 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:09.360 It was crazy. 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:12.600 It goes on for like three minutes. 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:15.720 It's art house cinema as well. 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:18.080 I love you, guys, Thanks for being on the show. 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:21.480 Do you guys want to maybe thanks for half of course, 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:23.480 of course, real pleasure. 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:25.240 For us show to be here. 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:31.320 A epic anime crossover moment. Do you guys maybe want 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:33.560 to introduce yourself? Tell us a little what you do, 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:39.000 what you're about, homies, Marcos, you're kind of the some 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:40.680 of the Powerpuff Girls here. 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:45.320 I don't want to be Blossom. I want to be Mojo. 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:47.920 JoJo's freaking well. 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:52.080 Now you're him, so yeah, that's I'm. 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:59.760 Okay with being him too. No, so, yeah, he was 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:01.040 the the first. 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:06.480 Like real vem b on on my evil evil Yeah 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:06.920 I loved it. 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:09.680 But anyways, okay. I started the Ancient show in twenty 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:13.680 seventeen with a friend of mine, Ruben, who's not here. 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:17.000 He's like he's he's a regular human being. So he 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:18.760 does he has like regular human stuff. 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:19.559 You know what I'm saying. 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:21.880 He's got like a job, and he's like normal and 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:24.400 people like him and respect him in the community, so 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:24.760 you know. 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:27.840 What I'm saying. Like, so he's hardly around. Yeah, yeah, 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:30.520 he's He's the He's literally the face of the podcast. 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:32.920 We needed a man that when the when the ship 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:38.560 goes bad, we like, right, So I started this podcast 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:43.479 with him, and Shogy came on board. Shogy brought Ivy, 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:44.840 Me and Ivy hit it off. 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:49.079 Ivy make sure I got a. 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:51.480 Place wherever I go that I can set my Ivy down. 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:55.240 That makes Shocky bubbles. 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:55.840 No, I don't know. 0:09:55.960 --> 0:10:00.679 I was gonna say Shoggy, Yeah, no, Shoggy his bubbles 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:01.439 and Ivy. 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:08.640 And then yeah, I ever watched the power Puff That's. 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:11.440 Right, foundational text, no idea. 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:16.600 These references you guys are pulling right, absolutely. 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:19.000 Get you kind of are holy ship. 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:21.720 Yeah you are kind of missbellowed with the red hair. 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:26.880 You just need curls and that's it. 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:33.640 Yeah, cod oh no, because look, folks, do you know 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:37.599 anything about the lore of our extremely successful podcast. 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:39.560 We've kind of got problems. 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:51.640 We have we have an existing thought against. 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:52.000 So Jannie, when you texted me earlier today about like 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:54.400 because I missed the deadline for like when to show up. 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:58.200 No, it was my fault. I don't know how time works. 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:02.120 This is this is all been a very recurring. 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:04.959 Detective season one and you still don't know how. 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:09.200 I know it's a flat circle, but. 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:11.559 A whole is a. 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:16.440 Flat gay true detective. A flat circle. 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:29.839 Again what Harrold said, like. 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:29.200 You should suck yourself off. 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:36.080 Anyways, when you texted me, I was at City Hall, 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:39.640 Like I'm literally, I'm in a current beef with the 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:42.840 water company and I have like a little duplex situation 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:44.880 and they turn the water off water off in the 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:50.560 back duplex because they process the payment and the payment 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:54.240 failed on their end, and so now they're like they're 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:56.440 not so they're not returning me that money. They're not 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:59.440 giving me that money back. Well, it's in our it's not. 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:04.320 The mayor is on a pedophile sex plane right now 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:10.000 and he's got everyone's water right now. 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:14.000 Yeah, So I'm like literally, and I got to the 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:16.760 point where like I wrote an email and I sent 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:18.320 it in there. But I like, I'm like, this is 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:20.160 a threat. I'm sending you an email to the news 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:23.000 about how you're stealing, Like this is stealing dog, you 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:25.040 know I feel about and I'm about to snitch you 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:29.280 out right this well, I feel like I cannot call 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:29.880 the cops on you. 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:34.800 The cops is laying. But snitching to journalists. 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:37.640 Immediately got a little bit of slag to It's kind 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:41.080 of snitching to journalist is extremely funny because like people 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:43.400 that have power like normally control the cops. 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:45.400 Or whatever, and they control the media too, and the 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:46.840 well to some extent. 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:50.720 Yes, but there's like a really funny thing that happens 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:52.920 when you hit like a certain level of power. Is 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:54.920 like once you hit that certain level of power, you 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:58.880 start like craving people's respect, which you can't buy to 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:01.240 only get that if you're like a good person. And 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:04.000 if somebody puts an article out there that's like this 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:10.360 guy stinks so mad. I mean, it's it's one of 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:13.920 the most powerful things you can do outside of illegal crimes. 0:13:14.800 --> 0:13:17.160 I mean, Musk is a classic example of that. He 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:20.080 was someone that like when he wasn't in the public eye, 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:23.880 people are like, oh, he's a smart billionaire, playboy philanthropist. 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:26.199 And now that he's like getting. 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:28.880 In public and everybody's like, look at this fat slub 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:31.720 of a looser, divorced guy. 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:33.960 Ever, what's his he really does. 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:38.800 Like pull on like that whole like you know, betters, 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:41.920 like better to keep your mouth shut and be thought 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:43.719 a fool than to open it and remove all. 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:44.640 That something like that. 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:47.720 Yeah, that sounds like something, Carmen, You're fucking like Redeck. 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:50.200 Grandma would have a very cool. 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:50.720 Idiom for. 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:54.839 Ship fire and same match. 0:13:55.320 --> 0:14:00.160 Yeah, laid. 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:06.760 A pig, lay down with the pig and get I 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:07.800 don't know these Yeah. 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:08.840 Better. 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:12.640 It's better to eat Christmas ham than have sex with 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:13.280 an animal. 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:14.400 That's what my dad all. 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:18.320 My mean while used to say. It's better to uh 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:20.480 come a shipload. 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:31.640 Than times for times but not all pee times for. 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:34.840 We didn't even get through the intros. By the way, 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:36.800 I'm shocking. 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:41.200 You can find me on the internet. I created Cereal Experiments. 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:48.200 And Ivy you're like the producer, right, you're the brains 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:50.080 I for a for a. 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:53.200 While, yes, and I'm trying to be again. But Marcos 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:55.120 never sends me any of the files to help him, 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:56.120 like deal with hell. 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:01.800 What it is? Myself out and I'm like, who could 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:03.840 do this for me? And then I was like, I'm 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:04.960 right here, I'm. 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:06.320 Right here, dog, I got. 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:08.640 Time. 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:12.880 Well, we love you guys, and we appreciate you guys 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:15.520 for coming. I wanted to have you guys on to 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:21.560 introduce to our audience, uh, the lovely philosophical concept of 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:25.800 homyism and could you maybe just give us a brief 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:30.680 summation of the homie society, the homie collective, and the 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:32.000 homie mind thot. 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:35.840 So it's weird, right, you don't want us, you don't 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:36.760 want a homie regime. 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:37.720 You don't want that. 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:40.720 No, right, it's the only ideology where like, if we 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:42.920 get into power in any way, shape or form. 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:43.760 It's going to be bad. 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:46.840 It's all right, Yeah, I love a homie regime. 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:51.440 No, because I'm enacting punitive judgments against my enemies. 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:53.800 You give me homie regime and I'm bringing back the 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:58.680 mongol hoarde, but I'm making it Mexican. It's not it's 0:15:58.680 --> 0:15:59.240 going to be bad. 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:01.080 It's gonna be the Mandela. 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:07.480 Ud. Let's not lean off. 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:10.520 Are explaining our ideas by like, first of all, if 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:14.920 we ever get power, millions will die, die, will die. 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:17.000 Because we're not doing We're not anyways. The idea is 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:20.440 radical militant friendship, right, and so like that's that's what 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:22.400 it boils down to. And a lot of people don't 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:26.120 understand the concept of like being radically friendly, right, like 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:30.360 being like militantly friendly, because it's a it's a weird concept. 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:32.440 But the idea is that when you meet people in 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:34.960 the world and your friends and you're being nice and friendly, 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:37.560 that's cool and whatever. But every now and then you'll 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:40.840 run across people who don't like you, who actively hate you, 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:42.160 who think that. 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:45.720 You're run across the way more than you'd expect. 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:51.960 Yeah, and my answer to those people is, I'm gonna 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:55.680 especially be your friend. I'm a specially I'm now in 0:16:55.840 --> 0:16:59.840 your life. We're now you, We're you're making I'm making 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:03.880 me a problem and your hate is gonna fucking have 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:06.560 to come around to me because I'm not moving, right. 0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:09.960 It's it's a it's a it's an ideology for stubborn people, 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:11.680 for incredibly stubborn. 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:13.800 People and persistent people, I guess. 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:17.920 And yeah, also if I'm if I'm not mistaken, part 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:21.320 of this is that everyone's Mexican. 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:25.880 Everyone is Mexican. Baseline for humanity is Mexican. Yes, yeah, 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:29.439 the okay, so it's it's a joke, but it's not. 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:32.680 A joke our complicated racial ideology. 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:39.440 The problem is is that in America, right, race doesn't 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:44.359 mean your skin color. Race is like you're aesthetic almost, 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:48.320 It's like a signifier or a complicitness with a specific 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:49.200 type of culture. 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:56.400 Yeah, it's hard to ali London has entered the child. 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:00.240 It's hard to explain that. 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:03.960 But like it's easier to understand for non for non black, 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:06.800 for like non black and brown people in America, to 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:11.160 the extent of like black people in America definitely are 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:14.000 outside of the realm of whiteness until they get a 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:17.159 specific amount of money and then you. 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:22.520 Can buy your way into whiteness. Alla Kanye West, right, Yeah, exactly. 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:25.080 More like this more just a little simply to the point, 0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:29.040 I think probably a more effective way to neutralize the 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:30.359 dismount of whiteness. 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:33.119 Than you know, reminding everybody how wife they are. Just 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:34.359 tell them their Mexican. 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:39.679 Now allow allow them Mexicans, allow their country into being Mexican. Right, 0:18:39.800 --> 0:18:48.520 because not problem because because in America, being Mexican, especially 0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:53.000 being Mexican American like really does occupy this weird liminal 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:58.240 racial space where you don't have like you're not You're 0:18:58.320 --> 0:19:01.280 not like you're never gonna when what is the Oppression 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:04.280 Olympics with anyone? But no one wins that. But you're 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:06.639 definitely not winning that as a Mexican person. But on 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:09.639 top of that, you're also kind of like outside the 0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:11.800 realm of whiteness because no one is going to ever 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:15.560 fucking identify and it will come up. You will eventually 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:18.080 get you won't get the jobs you want, you won't 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:19.520 get the things that you want. You're gonna have to 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:21.560 work twice as hard, and you won't really have a 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:25.679 reason as to why other than just like just there 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:29.639 are cultural signifiers that make you different from us. And 0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:33.399 the beautiful thing about Mexican American culture in America is 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:37.080 that Mexican American culture in America does not have a 0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:39.679 single source or origin point, and we all do one 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:43.600 specific thing. There's so many different ways to express it, right. 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:46.119 There's not like just like, oh, you only listen to 0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:48.560 this type of music or you only dress in a 0:19:48.640 --> 0:19:51.159 certain type of way. Fools come in every shape and size, 0:19:51.240 --> 0:19:53.199 you know what I'm saying, And that's the beautiful thing 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:56.080 about it is that it's already there. You just have 0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:58.680 to open up the space for people who feel alienated 0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:01.960 by a culture or society that doesn't want them in there. 0:20:02.119 --> 0:20:06.600 Well forgive me for like explaining like intro to like 0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:11.160 racial politics stuff, but like whiteness isn't even like real, 0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:15.240 you know, like Benjamin Franklin would say like that Germans 0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:16.080 are like not white. 0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:21.040 The guy who understands whiteness is is HP Lovecraft. He's 0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:23.040 the only guy who could say that he's white, you 0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:25.680 know what I'm saying. He's the one. 0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:29.960 You gotta you gotta respect a man that was like 0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:36.680 so racist he saw other racist as like incomprehensible cosmic. 0:20:36.359 --> 0:20:40.159 Beings like that's you could possibly do Like that is. 0:20:40.720 --> 0:20:43.760 That is a level of whiteness like hitherto unknown to 0:20:43.920 --> 0:20:46.360 like wouldn't even bother. 0:20:46.280 --> 0:20:50.200 Being racist anymore. HP Lovecraft did it better than you're 0:20:50.200 --> 0:20:51.320 going to find something. 0:20:51.160 --> 0:20:52.440 New true true? 0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:58.159 Yeah, yeah, HP Lovecraft tour. He left no crows, he 0:20:58.280 --> 0:20:59.600 left no racism crime. 0:21:02.600 --> 0:21:05.439 It's like a it's like a pac Man or one 0:21:05.480 --> 0:21:07.359 of those games that's essentially solved. 0:21:08.840 --> 0:21:09.800 Yeah, it's been solved. 0:21:09.920 --> 0:21:13.600 And but I mean that plays into that plays a 0:21:13.640 --> 0:21:16.000 lot into like the idea of radical friendship, because there 0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:18.200 are people in this world who will hate you, and 0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:20.200 they don't even know why they hate you, have no 0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:24.040 real reason other than like an ideological one, and the 0:21:24.200 --> 0:21:27.120 only way you can come combat that in an effective 0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:30.240 and safe manner is by being friendly. And I know 0:21:30.320 --> 0:21:34.399 that sounds crazy when someone's like, especially on the internet 0:21:34.480 --> 0:21:38.440 where where the Internet is this weird like space where 0:21:38.560 --> 0:21:42.399 people can send death threats to you daily and they 0:21:42.520 --> 0:21:45.200 just yeah, you can post like I love cookies, and 0:21:45.240 --> 0:21:48.400 then someone will like share a picture of your house. 0:21:56.000 --> 0:21:59.800 Fucking like saw a stack of fucking pizza boxes out. 0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:03.000 I had her like college kid neighbor's house. Was like, damn, 0:22:03.200 --> 0:22:05.960 I know exactly what the fuck these guys are doing. 0:22:06.080 --> 0:22:08.000 I know they don't have dishes. I'm going to bring 0:22:08.080 --> 0:22:10.720 them real food. I'm gonna be a good neighbor. And 0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:15.320 then just like people threatening her pets me, we're going 0:22:15.359 --> 0:22:16.080 to eat her pig. 0:22:18.560 --> 0:22:21.320 Yeah, it was the whole thing, Like I want to 0:22:21.359 --> 0:22:23.399 say a year and a half ago, but it was 0:22:23.480 --> 0:22:24.560 probably like three months. 0:22:24.800 --> 0:22:26.639 No, I think it was like I think that was 0:22:27.000 --> 0:22:30.240 like last year. Yeah, I remember the Chili. That was 0:22:30.600 --> 0:22:36.440 five years ago, Like, wake up, you see. 0:22:36.400 --> 0:22:39.000 Your experiments Land, which should because I get royalties. 0:22:39.640 --> 0:22:43.720 Trust me, our fans have seen Serial Experiments laying like. 0:22:44.840 --> 0:22:46.760 I don't think that reference is going to be lost 0:22:46.800 --> 0:22:48.200 on our listener, show. 0:22:49.400 --> 0:22:51.000 Me the Creator. 0:22:51.119 --> 0:22:53.359 Yeah, I don't know if the people listening to this 0:22:53.520 --> 0:22:56.560 transgender podcast have heard of Evan Gellian but. 0:22:58.080 --> 0:23:00.280 On Genesis in. 0:23:03.440 --> 0:23:07.480 What was your point about the Serial Experiments? Oh, just 0:23:08.520 --> 0:23:13.320 on the Internet, Yes, yeah, in the show The Wired. 0:23:14.960 --> 0:23:19.439 I think the price of the brick going up. 0:23:21.920 --> 0:23:26.040 So I find that interesting because I agree, like, I mean, obviously, 0:23:26.400 --> 0:23:31.320