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Speaker 1: The after Partie, Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, A

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Speaker 3: Hey Jake, Kevin Bosh calling from the three to one four,

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Speaker 1: you got For New Year's. Eve music that you're, into all,

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Speaker 1: right hit me up six one seven nine oh six

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Speaker 1: six six three eight voicemail and text at, disgracelam, Pod,

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Speaker 1: instagram x, TikTok, facebook, everywhere also on. YouTube someone wrote

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Speaker 1: to me the other, day and forgive, ME i don't

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Speaker 1: know who it was AND i can't dig it out

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Speaker 1: of MY dms right, now but someone asked me what

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Speaker 1: the origin of the phrase rock a rolla, is where

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Speaker 1: it came, from and WHY i say it in every

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Speaker 1: episode Of, disgraceland at the end of every. Episode and

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Speaker 1: now you guys say. It you write to me all the,

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Speaker 1: time rock AND, rolla rock AND, rolla rock AND. Rolla

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Speaker 1: it's a great, saying Isn't It just feels good coming

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Speaker 1: off your. Tongue that's how it.

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Speaker 2: HAPPENED i didn't plan on saying it WHEN i said.

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Speaker 1: IT i just said it WHEN i was recording that first,

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Speaker 1: episode and THEN i said it again WHEN i recorded the, second, third, fourth,

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Speaker 1: Fifth and you know, what up until about the sixth

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Speaker 1: or seventh, EPISODE i wasn't even sure what it. Meant

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Speaker 1: and and it ended up being a thing fairly quickly

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Speaker 1: with you guys who started to engage with me once

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Speaker 1: the podcast was released originally way back in twenty, eighteen

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Speaker 1: you guys started, writing writing to me and signing things

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Speaker 1: rock A. Rolla and it occurred to, Me, Gee, jake

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Speaker 1: you should really try to maybe figure out what the

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Speaker 1: fuck it is you're saying and broadcasting out to all these,

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Speaker 1: people or podcasting out.

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Speaker 2: To all these people on a regular. Basis SO i

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Speaker 2: looked it.

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Speaker 1: UP i of course knew it was A Judas priest,

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Speaker 1: song AND i knew The Judas priest, song AND i

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Speaker 1: loved The Judas priest. Song that's not WHY i said,

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Speaker 1: IT i just LIKE i, SAID i just said. It

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Speaker 1: SO i looked up the meaning of, it and in

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Speaker 1: one of those sort of holy spirit moments synchronization whatever

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Speaker 1: you want to call, it, synchronicity the, universe however you

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Speaker 1: look at, things it was just. PERFECT i looked this

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Speaker 1: up and the meaning of rock A Rolla i'm paraphrasing,

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Speaker 1: here but it basically means a full embrace of the criminal.

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Speaker 1: Lifestyle AND i think that comes from the movie RockA,

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Speaker 1: rolla WHICH i still to this day have not. SEEN

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Speaker 1: i even have A rock A rolla tattoo that a,

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Speaker 1: Listener danny From Los, angeles gave to. Me it's two

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Speaker 1: handcuffed hands with rock And rolla on the. Knuckles But

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Speaker 1: i've never seen that, movie AND i don't Think i'm

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Speaker 1: gonna see the. Movie BUT i just, thought, damn that

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Speaker 1: makes total sense for a podcast Like. Disgraceland so there

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Speaker 1: you have. It there's the origin story Of rock A.

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Speaker 1: Rolla and AS i was thinking about this over the

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Speaker 1: past couple, days relative to the after, party, here the bonus,

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Speaker 1: episodes the content that we make it occurred to me

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Speaker 1: that there's a rock And rolla moment many rock And

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Speaker 1: rolla moments in our, episodes frequently regularly where the subject

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Speaker 1: just does something where you're just, LIKE i can't believe

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Speaker 1: that motherfucker just did. That that's the Rock a, moment

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Speaker 1: AND i can't. Believe i've never organized my thinking in

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Speaker 1: this way, before But i'm going to start BECAUSE i

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Speaker 1: find that these, moments these holy shit moments that we

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Speaker 1: come upon in the research and that we write about

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Speaker 1: and that we include in our podcast, episodes and That

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Speaker 1: i'm now sort of making these little videos On instagram

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Speaker 1: With they're in part what gets you guys, stoked all,

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Speaker 1: Right So i'm giving them a. Name they're now the

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Speaker 1: rock And roller. Moments i'll be hitting them here in

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Speaker 1: the after. Parties you'll be hearing about.

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Speaker 4: It.

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Speaker 1: RECOMMENDATIONS i want new music from you. GUYS i don't

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Speaker 1: mean new like it was made. RECENTLY i mean, SHIT

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Speaker 1: i have not heard it's the new. YEAR i want

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Speaker 1: to be psyched on. MUSIC i want to BE i

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Speaker 1: want to be reaching for my phone playing new. Stuff

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Speaker 1: i'm going to leave you guys with. This, okay this

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Speaker 1: is my recommendation for. You search Out Funky snakefoot By Alfonse. Mouzon,

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Speaker 1: okay and then play the Song Funky. Snakefoot if you're

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Speaker 1: hip hop, fans this isn't hip, hop but if you're

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Speaker 1: hip hop, fans you're going to recognize that this song

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Speaker 1: has been sampled like crazy and it is. Incredible All,

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Speaker 1: right there you. Go that's my, recommendation Al Fonse, Mouzon Funky.

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Speaker 2: Snakefoot what a?

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Speaker 1: Title six one seven nine oh six six six three.

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Speaker 1: Eight that's how you get in touch with. Me you

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Speaker 1: can hit me up On instagram X facebook as well

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Speaker 1: At Disgrace. Lampod you can email Me Disgrace lampod at

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Speaker 1: gmail dot. Com let's recap this, thing shall? We number

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Speaker 1: one right now in your? Feed part one of our

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Speaker 1: archive episode on The Beach. Boys number two coming. Tomorrow

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Speaker 1: part two of our archive episode on The Beach boys number.

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Speaker 1: Three over in the Bad lands, Feed we've got a

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Speaker 1: new episode On Harrison ford number.

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Speaker 2: Four next.

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Speaker 1: Week in the disgracelanm, feed we get double the After

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Speaker 1: party fun to get you ready for a ton of

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Speaker 1: new episodes coming down the.

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Speaker 1: six six three. Eight call me on the, telephone text

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Speaker 1: me hit me up number. Six remember no one cares

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Speaker 1: about the.

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Speaker 2: Music that you love more than you do in, well

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Speaker 2: that's a. Disgrace.

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Speaker 1: Okay my moment of bliss in honor of this Week's

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Speaker 1: disgraceland episode on The Beach, boys me reading you the

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