1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: on Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 3 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive on Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson. 4 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: It's a lovely Monday here in Pittsburgh. O t a weeks. 5 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: The third phase start this week. Steelers will be on 6 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: the field Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday this week, and um, I'll 7 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: be down there watching practice, see what goes on. It 8 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: should be interesting see how many guys show up. Yeah, 9 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: it's don't expect you know, eleven on Levin's with Ben 10 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: and bad you know, like, yeah, it's gentle be getting 11 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: into things and we'll see who even is there. I 12 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:12,199 Speaker 1: just wrote something about this on d K Pittsburgh Sports about, Um, 13 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: the NFL p a is is is told its members 14 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:21,199 Speaker 1: that they wouldn't like them to not show up. Um, 15 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: that's not realistic. No, I mean the young guys need 16 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: to show up. The bottom third or your roster needs 17 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: to show up for their own good about seventy five 18 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: guys on your roster need to show up? Yeah, I 19 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: guess it's better as who really doesn't need to be there. 20 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure that Castro doesn't need to be there, Camoy 21 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: and cam Hey, these guys that are you're You're okay, 22 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: you're a starter. We got young guys we need to 23 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: work with. We want to get looks at. You wouldn't 24 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: get many reps anyway, right, Mike, I'm sure, And Mike 25 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: toming you know what, if you show up, great, If 26 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: you don't show up, we're not gonna lose sleep about 27 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: it because we're getting these other guys reps. Yeah, we'd 28 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: love to see you, but you don't need to be here. 29 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: It would only be from a leadership sort of standpoint. 30 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: And that's fine. But um not to mention though I 31 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: said this last week. Even some of the veterans are 32 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 1: on the league, or a lot of the veterans around 33 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: the league, they only signed a one year deal. You 34 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: gotta be there. You better be there, especially if you're 35 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 1: with a new team. This is your opportunity to your deal. 36 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: You need to get acclimated because you've got to know 37 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: shop your services either to that team or another one. 38 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: There's one fewer preseason game for you this year to 39 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: that you know, and so I mean you're not going 40 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: to play in the fourth preseason game or the last 41 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: third preseason game now, I wonder how much pressure actually 42 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: comes from the the union. You know, like, if you're 43 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: a starter who's gonna make the team, but you're not great, 44 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 1: are you getting pressure from both sides saying, yeah, yeah, 45 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: we don't really want you to go. But he's sitting 46 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: there thinking it's probably better for my career if I go, right, 47 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: you know, And you know, it goes back to the 48 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: old Jerry Glenville thing. You know, this is the NFL 49 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: and not for long. Yeah, take advantage of the years 50 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: you have. If you've only got a five year career 51 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: and you're in year four, or you know, you're just 52 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: trying to hang on to that next contract like a 53 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: big time you better go, you better go, you better go. 54 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: You know, it just behooves you to do so. And 55 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: I can't really speak to this, but one of the 56 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: complaints that the unions have, and I think J. C. 57 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: Treader came out about it, was we're supposed to be 58 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: not doing much contact and I'm I'm sitting here in 59 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: shorts and a T shirt trying to defend a bullrush, 60 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: you know, like it was getting a little too aggressive. 61 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: And I'm sure you know, the players of yesteryear are 62 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: rolling their eyes a tounch of wolf are like, oh geez, 63 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: that's all. Well they never did these things though. Well, 64 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: the the O T A s are a relatively new 65 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 1: the invention and go back to I. I can't remember 66 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: when they first started having and it was sometime around 67 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: two thousand and I remember early on in the process, 68 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: you know, when we would go, you go watch O 69 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: T A S and Bill Coward nervus up set foot 70 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: on the field. He might he might come out and 71 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: watch from up above on the on the balcony up above, 72 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: but he let his coaches work with their guys with 73 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: an individual time and fundamentals and right right, right, And 74 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: that's what it was. Um. You know they've grown a 75 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: little bit more in recent years. Um, it's only three days. Yeah, 76 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's a three week period that leads 77 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: you then into minicamp and then you're done for the 78 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: next six weeks essentially or at least month. Um. I 79 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: don't know what what has happened with this though, is 80 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: so many contracts now tie bonuses into workout bonuses into 81 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: showing up. Um not last year you kind of had 82 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: to do those those workout bonuses. You had the guy 83 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: show you know, set up his phone or what have you. Okay, 84 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: show us that you're you're working out that kind of stuff. Obviously, 85 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: I just said to me, the union is kind of 86 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: using this to get what it wanted when it should 87 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: have negotiated that last year when it when it was 88 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: negotiating new c b A. If you didn't want these 89 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 1: O t a s to be what they've become, you 90 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: had your chance to negotiate this out last year, right right. 91 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: I mean we were talking about remember the last time 92 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,559 Speaker 1: when anything really happened was at the Combine a year ago, 93 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: and the big story that week was all the CBA 94 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 1: stuff and that's what we've we spent many, many hours 95 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: talking about that, and you know this is the different rumors. 96 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: But that immediately got forgotten because COVID hit. You know, 97 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: like people forgot that we just signed a ten year 98 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: extension on the c b A. That was the biggest 99 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: news in the sport until before and three days later 100 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: everything was shut down. It was shut down, So you know, 101 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: the players had their chance. And these aren't COVID related issues, 102 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: these are things that are in the contract. COVID put 103 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: a wrench in everything, of course, but I also feel 104 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: like the players too, to some degree, are going, well, 105 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: we don't want to risk being there. And like I 106 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: think that Ships said he just played a whole season 107 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: with whole season and right, I mean, what percentage are 108 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: vaccinated and they certainly could have been any if they didn't, 109 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: if they chose to. So I I just think that 110 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: they're using COVID as it as a crutch to get 111 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: what they want in this situation, and what they want 112 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: does not best. It's not what's best for the majority 113 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,559 Speaker 1: of their membership. For the individuals. Yeah, you know, for 114 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: you know, for fifent of your membership not showing up 115 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: at OTS fine, trum. Paul Amal who came to ot 116 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: S I believe once or twice during his entire career. 117 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: He stayed on the West Coast, worked out on his own. 118 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: They were fine with it, you know whatever, but not 119 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: you don't trust every guy to do that. No, by 120 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: the way, as we saw what you want, James, If 121 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: you're working out on your own and you get hurt, 122 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,239 Speaker 1: that's a glitch. That's a loophole. Yeah, I mean, especially 123 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: with the COVID situation, like well, not even the COVID situation, 124 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 1: like am I not supposed to lift weights and keep 125 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: in shape. You know, I'm under contracts. One of the 126 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: reasons why they started doing these things, though, how much 127 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: is a guy working out in the offseason. You don't 128 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: have to go back to the tounch of wolf days, 129 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: eight weeks of training camp to get these guys ready 130 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 1: to go play a season. Yeah, those guys back then 131 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: would come to camp not in shape, in shape, and 132 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: they would use camp to get in shape. And that's 133 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 1: how the norm was, you know, that's why they you know, 134 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: they do the conditioning test every year to start camp, 135 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: and everybody passes it because they've all been working out 136 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: of it. If you don't pass a conditioning test, something 137 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: is seriously wrong. I want to touch on the Juan 138 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: James thing though again, I mean that he tore his 139 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: I think it was his achilles. I believe the achilles 140 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: and working out on his own so Denver can cut 141 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: him with no ramifications. They get off the hook, they 142 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: get off his contract, and they did, and he gets 143 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: nothing out of it, and no one signed him until 144 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: at least he gets healthy. And you know, he also 145 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: chose to opt out a year ago. I mean that's 146 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: a different related issue, but he has done nothing for 147 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: two years, and now his career might be over, you know, 148 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: but he's working out for the Broncos. You know what 149 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: I mean? Should I not work out? Guys? Should I 150 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: just don't do anything? I don't know. That's an odd situation. 151 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: I can see that being addressed. But the yeah, but 152 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: the again, if you know, if you're Denver, you're our 153 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: facility has been open the entire time. You could come 154 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: in and work here, you could come and work out here, 155 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: and if and if it happens in that situation, yeah, 156 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: then we gotta pay because on their building, because we 157 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: don't know what you could have been playing basketball into 158 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: your achillese and that's why those things, that's why they 159 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: have those things like you know, just yeah, you know 160 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: you could say that well it was it was a 161 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: weight room accident. We don't know that for sure. You know, 162 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: you could have been climbing Mount Kilimanjar over all we 163 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: know and falling falling off a cliff, I don't know, 164 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: seeing professional wrestling or something right now. I guess that's 165 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,719 Speaker 1: a good point. I mean, how do you how do 166 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 1: the teams believe you? And all those things? But it 167 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: is kind of strange. Yeah, I mean, you could do 168 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: that in a car wreck. You know, there's all kinds 169 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: of things that can happen. I mean, that's that was 170 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: the big thing when when Ben Roethlisberger was riding his 171 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: motorcycle and got into the accident. Well that's not covered. Yeah, 172 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: it's not team related, and it's in your contract not 173 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: to do those kind of things. You know. Interesting, but 174 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: it is kind of an odd time of the year. 175 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll get some news. Unfortunately, someone will probably 176 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: get hurt this week in the league. You hope, you know, 177 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: you hope not. Yeah, there'll be something. These are you 178 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: hope nobody gets hurt in these sits. Again, these are 179 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: non contact drills. Everybody's running around his shorts. They're basically 180 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: walk through That's the thing. Quous Golden injury, Right, this 181 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: isn't a camp like this or uh he got hurt. 182 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: He got He originally hurt his shoulder his rookie year 183 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: during rookie minicamp, he jammed his shoulder and I think, uh, 184 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: I think he may have torn his labor something like that. 185 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 1: Um and that kind of flared up again when when 186 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: training camp started his rookie year. Then that next year 187 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 1: when he came back was when he did the foot yea. Um. Yeah. 188 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: But one of the reasons they do have these things 189 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: back to conditioning too, is just to check on check 190 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: out throughout the year. What where everybody is physically. You know, boy, 191 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: he looks like you put on a couple of pounds 192 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 1: or you know. Um. And also, I don't think they 193 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: want the players to have such a long break because 194 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: that's when all the headlines are everything. You're talking about 195 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: guys in football, players and really e sport who enjoy 196 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: the structure. When you have the structure, everything, Okay, I 197 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: gotta get up and go to practice. To you, I 198 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: gotta get down to the facility. Um. Creatures, Yeah, you're 199 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: your creatures are hapy. That's what you do for for 200 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 1: seven months of the year. You your your work schedule 201 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: was pretty it's pretty set. Yeah, you're doing the same thing. 202 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: You're just going into a different cities sometimes to do it. Um. 203 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, you get you get less off time, you know, 204 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: time off during the regular season. Think about if they 205 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 1: had this in nineteen eighty, what was it to Terry Bradshaw. 206 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: Does he get his elbow worked on in Louisiana? Uh? 207 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: Probably not. He would he would have been here at 208 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: O t A s um. You know. So there's all 209 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 1: kinds of there. There are benefits to it. I see 210 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: the benefits to it. It's the same reason why when 211 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: I was in high school, the coach, like basketball coach, 212 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:52,719 Speaker 1: we had open gyms year round. Yeah, because you took out. 213 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: You may have taken a little time off right after 214 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 1: the season, but once you know, a month out from 215 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: the to the end of the basket ball season, you're 216 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: right back in the gym. You don't want to give 217 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: the players too much R and R. Yeah, usually, and 218 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: then all the headlines are bad, but they deserve something. 219 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: They're grown men and they're professionals. Um. But every profession 220 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: is different. There's not many professions that let you just 221 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: disappear for months either, but they also don't grind you 222 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: the same way during I was just thinking of it though, 223 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: from you mentioned the creature habit thing. I wonder, you 224 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 1: know the half the players look at last year and say, well, 225 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: we didn't have this stuff last year and I played 226 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: just fine and we won ten games and we don't 227 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,719 Speaker 1: need it, or do Some Some players look at it like, man, 228 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: I'm excited to get back to a normal off season, 229 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: and and have you know, I'm a nine year veteran 230 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 1: and eight of those I had the same offseason and 231 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: one I didn't. I hated. I felt like officially, well 232 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: so much so much of the league. I mean, let's 233 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: let's say of the nine players on each team's roster 234 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: right now, I'll bet our first or second year players, 235 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: if not more so, they never They don't they don't 236 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: know what a normal off season looks like. Necessarily. Yeah, 237 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: you gotta think about fifteen draft picks per team over 238 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: a two year period, and probably another five and you 239 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: signed twenty guys who were undrafted first year guys. They 240 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: don't know any different, They don't any different. Um, it's 241 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: the veteran guys that that have been around a little bit, 242 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: and those guys don't necessarily need to be here, But 243 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: the coaching staffs need to see these guys so you 244 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: can start implementing things. People talked about why the Steelers 245 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: didn't do more Matt Canada motion and those kind of things. 246 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: Last year, they had fourteen practices before the season started. 247 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: This time last year, they weren't doing anything. They weren't 248 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: they were they were meeting via zooms. You can't Yeah, 249 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: you can't install that kind of stuff a lot. That's 250 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: timing base two and you know, the motion and all 251 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff too. No, I do think that 252 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: stuff will be really something the key on maybe even 253 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: this week when you're down there. Well, they were they 254 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: were doing in the rookie minicamp, you know, working on 255 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: on different motions and things of that nature pre snap 256 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:54,119 Speaker 1: and you know, Jets Jets sweep stuff and things that 257 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: that we saw glimpses of last year. But it's going 258 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: to be implemented from the start, have a real off season. Yeah, 259 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: that's a good point. So anyways, Yeah, so that'll start 260 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: up this week and we'll get to see some guys, 261 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 1: talk to some guys. Can't wait for that to see 262 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: where the ravenues around the league accordingly, and you know, 263 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: speaking of which we're closing in on June one as well. Yeah, 264 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: it's a big, big deal too, and this year it 265 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 1: looks like it might even be a bigger deal than 266 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: normal because so many teams are tight against the cap 267 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: that we could see some movements made here, including Julio Jones. 268 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 1: That sounds like it's gonna happen. That's gonna happen. He 269 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: actually went on radio today, uh and said that he 270 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: is out of here, he's out of Atlanta. Yeah, so 271 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: he knows he's gone, and they've even came out he 272 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: requested a trade like three months ago. Yeah. I just 273 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: think they know the writings on the wall. The don't 274 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: make money. I mean, they're really cash draft. Yeah, they 275 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: can't even sign their draft picks at this point. So 276 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: this is obviously also past the compensatory selection ramifications. So 277 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 1: anybody that you sign right now, you sign him to 278 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: a one year deal, then they count for your compensatory 279 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 1: selections next year when they leave when they live about. 280 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 1: So you're gonna see some guys get signed now that 281 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: they were still on the market. Um, and you may 282 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: see and you'll get a good price because they've been 283 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: out there and you know there's not gonna be a 284 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: lot of teams competing for their services. It's definitely the 285 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: buying season for some for the teams right now. The 286 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: more veteran guys well, and some of the veterans might 287 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: not want to come in until the start a training kid. 288 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: I'll relax here for a while. I'm reading here. Bill 289 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: Barnwell put out a story today, uh, saying where some 290 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: of these guys may fit in, some of the guys 291 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: who may sign and where Julio Jones may get traded to. 292 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: He's saying that that Julio Jones gets traded to Jacksonville 293 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: with the comp talking about it a lot. They haven't 294 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: been on my list, but they're active. Make a lot 295 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: of sense. Yeah, I mean you get your young quarterback 296 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: another piece, right, Yeah, I mean for that regard, it 297 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: certainly does. It's not like while we have Marvin Jones, 298 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: we couldn't use Fine, Yeah, I'll take Ji and one 299 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: of the moves that they would make to do that, 300 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: he's saying that the Falcons get second round draft pick 301 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: and Laviska Chenalt. Wow. If I'm Atlanta, I would do that. Yell, 302 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: get a second period for Yeah. No, I like that. 303 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: But I think if you're looking at second round draft picks, 304 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: if you're Atlantic, okay, we gotta get a second round 305 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: draft pick. If they then also chipping because Chenalt will, 306 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: then you don't need Chenalt. No, people need to realize 307 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: Julio Jones because I'm playing the slot for you want 308 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: play wherever. Yeah, he can play all over the field 309 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: already with the A T N pick. If the was 310 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: a little Vian harven ish. He might be a little 311 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: short end of the stick too, and this staff didn't 312 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: pick him right. Um I was I gonna say with 313 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: that there was Uh. You know, when you look at 314 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: acquiring Julio, I think he's worth probably a second rounder. 315 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: We talked about this last week. For the team that 316 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: buys him, it's not that bad. It's not bad. It's 317 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: ten eleven million dollars a year, and you could cut 318 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: him after one year you wanted. It doesn't anything. You 319 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: can move his money around, extend them if you wanted to. 320 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: So cap space is important, but acquiring them isn't brutal. 321 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: But if you're Atlanta selling him, I think there's gonna 322 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: be more teams than just one or two on the 323 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: more like, I think there's gonna be people competing for 324 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: the spot that leads me to the next thing. It 325 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: was big headlines over the weekend on NFL dot Com 326 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: or NFL Network. The New England Patriots have internal discussions 327 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: about acquiring Julio Jones. No kidding. Every team in the 328 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: league has had internal discussions about whether or not they 329 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: want to try. Hey, Julio Jones is available. Oh m 330 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: let's take a look at our roster and see what 331 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: no for us. It doesn't make sense. The next team over, 332 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: Yeah we could, that would make some sense. They've all 333 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: done it. I'm sure Kevin Colbert has mentioned it to somebody. 334 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: You're not in the market at all. It makes no 335 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: sense for this team at all. But the topic has 336 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: come up. Mike Tomlin and Kevin Colbert have talked about, Hey, 337 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: did you see Atlanti's trying to trade Holy Jones. Yeah. 338 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: They they they gave us a call, you know, last week. Yeah, 339 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: that'd be nice, but we got we got guys. Yeah, 340 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: I mean, that's an internal discussion, folks. Some of these 341 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: headlines make me crazy. I mean, uh, some of the 342 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: people do what you do for a living, and I'm 343 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 1: not lumping you with them just to create a headline 344 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: or a blurb that shows up on my phone. Like, yeah, 345 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: we know that. Anyone that knows anything knows that they've 346 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: had a discussion about. Every team in the league has 347 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: discussed in some ways, in some way, fashion or form. 348 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys have discussed it, and they don't have 349 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: any possible need for Leo Jones. Well, it's kind of funny. 350 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: I guess he was working out in a cowboy he 351 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: was jersey or T shirt yesterday. So I'm sitting there thinking, 352 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: would they trade Michael gallup for him? That would be 353 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: the movie. I mean, you think it would be like trading, right. 354 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm Atlanta, I might rather have that 355 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: than a second round pick next year. Give me a 356 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 1: gallop in a second round pick, or gallop in a 357 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: third or or something like that. Wouldn't mind because me 358 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 1: a second round pick next year. You're lucky if that 359 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 1: helps you two years from now, if that guy works 360 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: out or helps you trade up for a quarterback. That's 361 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: why you know when team when they're talking about a 362 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: team such as the Patriots, where the Ravens making a 363 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: trade to get him, somebody's gonna throw in a kicker 364 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: or a sweetener that they can't match. Probably, like if 365 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:20,479 Speaker 1: if you're if you're like New England can say, well, 366 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: we'll give you who's the rookie receiver they had, Harry Harry, 367 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: We'll give you nikiel here. I don't want Nikil No. 368 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: If I'm if I'm Baltimore, we'll we'll kick in. Yeah, No, 369 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 1: I don't want those guys. I mean, I'd consider a 370 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: Brown right, yeah, Brown right, No, I hear you. Um. 371 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: I still think two of the most logical ones are 372 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: in New England and Indie because they have a lot 373 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: of cap space and they have a need. But if 374 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: you're Indie, you're getting at the kick in Paris Campbell 375 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: or something like that. I'm giving you a second round 376 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: pick and that's it. Well, then somebody else is gonna 377 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 1: give me more. Yeah, not to mention the fact that 378 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: you're we're thinking your second round pick is gonna be 379 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: fift or lower. Yeah, it seems like a lot of 380 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: these teams are playoff teams, though, I can get an 381 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: early second. But if you're Jacksonville or you know, Dallas, 382 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: and you can throw in a pretty good receiver coming 383 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: back to them, I might even do it straight up 384 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: for Whisker or gall I don't know about straight up, 385 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: but I'd like take a third instead. Yeah, we'll take it. 386 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: I'll take a three in Michael Gallup for him. Yeah. No, 387 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: that's very appealing. That's better than somebody else's too. I 388 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: get I'm getting a player that's gonna help me right now, 389 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: help me right now. Matt Ryan's not young. I'm trying 390 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: to the window is the window is still open here. 391 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: They didn't get it. They didn't take a quarterback this year. Yeah. 392 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: We had a lot of talks on the podcast about it, 393 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: and my co host kept saying, man, if I'm trading 394 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 1: for Julio Jones, it needs to be like a Wenz 395 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: deal where you gotta play this many snaps And I'm like, yeah, 396 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: so that's great unless five other teams are in on 397 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: him and one of them just says, take my second. 398 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that. I mean, actually, I can 399 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: have it. I can see John Gruden being interesting. You know, 400 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: I mentioned him today. He always wants guys big for this, 401 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: you know, the one I keep throwing out there, but 402 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: they don't really the cap spaces. I can go to 403 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and say, we just traded Jordan's love for 404 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: Julio Jones. You want to restructure your contract? Yeah, okay, Yeah, 405 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: now we're friends again, you know what I mean, And 406 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna go win the NFC throwing necku Amia st 407 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: Brown to about it here. I'm tired to throw to 408 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: that guy. That might be the move. The more I 409 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: think about I haven't thought about that approach. If I'm Atlanta, 410 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: give me a first year contract because this guy's a 411 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: cheap you paid the it's it's the make of its 412 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: Patrick trade all over you. The other team has paid 413 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: their signing bonus. We're just taking on the salary, which 414 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: is you know, first year or second year or third 415 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: year minimum. In many cases, they can take it. They 416 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: can do that. They could do that. I mean, it 417 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 1: doesn't even have to be a receiver, you know, right, 418 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,959 Speaker 1: it could be a pass rusher, give me anything, right, 419 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 1: So that might be the move from them. I mean, 420 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: a second on pick a year from now. It's fine. 421 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: It doesn't help Atlanta next year, Matt exactly. You know, 422 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: they've got a new coaching staff and then they want 423 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 1: to win now. Yeah, so that that one I think 424 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: is going to be interesting to follow. Atlanta can't say 425 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: noticed Renault and Jacksonville's No, that's as good as it's 426 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: gonna get. Um, you know, but that's the that's the 427 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: biggest topic in the league right now. Yeah, could somebody 428 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: else come, you know, could Buffalo or one of these 429 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: teams make it, make a move maybe, yeah, potentially, but 430 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 1: again it's gonna cost him a good player. I keep 431 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: here in San Francisco because they're so aggressive and they're 432 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: in it to win it right now, but then on 433 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: the first round picked the next two years, like you're 434 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: gonna have just destroy your draft capital for the next 435 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: couple year to give up deepo, Samuel want to know 436 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: when I don't want to get rid of their dudes. 437 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 1: And as good as Julio is, there are the injury 438 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: injury concerns. I mean that question, that's real, without question, 439 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: his next one real quick. Baltimore to me too, they 440 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: have a lot of receivers, Like I know he's better 441 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 1: than Boykin, but that of a sudden, they've got six 442 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: or seven that are rosterable players that you drafted in 443 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: the last two years, were signed Watkins or you know, 444 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: they're all two first round picks in the mix. I 445 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 1: don't know that that's the move. Yeah, I don't think 446 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: that happens. Um the Eagles trade zach Ertz too the 447 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. That makes sense. The Eagles get seventh round 448 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: draft pick and tight end Tommy Sweeney, So basically they're 449 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: giving him nothing to get out there. But that's what 450 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: he's worth right now. I did my talk twenty five 451 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: tight ends and left him off and he was the 452 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: one I got the most heat for he was bad 453 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: last year. I mean, could he help somebody maybe, Um, 454 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: but that's the kind of the compensation you're gonna get. Yeah, 455 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: I mean he would be Dawson knox Is back up. Yeah. 456 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: Maybe teach him a thing or two and play some 457 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah. I keep thinking Indie with him too, 458 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: to put them with Reich and Wentz. But I don't 459 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: know what they want him. I mean, is he better 460 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: than the guys they have? Uh Kawan short? Yeah, there's 461 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: some good defensive tackle still out there. The prediction is 462 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: that he signs a one year, three million deal, three 463 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: million dollar deal with Buffalo. I can see that. I 464 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: mean they've they've been attacking their defensive line. They want 465 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: to play in waves. They don't ask their defensive linemen 466 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: to play a lot of snaps. That's ideal for an 467 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 1: order dude. Yeah, there to win it. He is a 468 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: guy who has missed twenty seven games over the last 469 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: two years. He has not played a whole lot of football. 470 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: That team also has massive Carolina ties. Yeah, might even 471 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: draft him. Sheldon Richardson, Yeah, he was released by the Browns. 472 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: He has him signing a one year, six million dollar 473 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: deal with the Saints. It's kind of pricey, you know, 474 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: the Saints getting six million dollars. I don't see that. Yeah, 475 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: I see himself. He'll sign somewhere. Yeah, I don't know 476 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: if he'll get six million, but I bet he signed somewhere. 477 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: He doesn't really fit here, by the way, No, he 478 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 1: does not. Geno atkins m prediction is that he signs 479 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: a one year, two point five million dollar deal with 480 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: the Vikings. I can see that. I mean, they have 481 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 1: some big nose tackle types. You know, they signed Tomlinson. 482 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: Pierce softed out last year, but they needed they need 483 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: a penetrator. He may not even play on first down 484 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: for them, but that's fine. Yeah, I mean, I think 485 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: he's better off if he only plays forty snaps a 486 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: game or thirty five snaps a game. The last couple 487 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 1: off seasons, this time of year, some of these former 488 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: star defensive tackles have been floating out there, you know, 489 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: McCoy and Sue and some of these guys. Maybe they're 490 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: just not anxious to go to camp and all these 491 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 1: things either. But it kind of find it odd that 492 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: you can get a brand name defensive tackle in May. Yeah, 493 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: I agree. Melvin Ingram he's visiting the Dolphins right now. 494 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 1: But okay, his prediction is that he signs a one year, 495 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: five point five million dollar deal with the Chargers. I 496 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: don't see him going back to the track. I think 497 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: that would have happened already. Yeah, I think that would 498 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 1: have happened. Now. They really don't have somebody opposite. That's 499 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: the that's the big problem for them. And Bosa, as 500 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 1: good as he is, has gotten Nick gotten without question. 501 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: So now all of a sudden, if you don't have 502 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: him and you don't have Ingram either, how you get problems. 503 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: But Ingram had no sacks in seven games last year. 504 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 1: I've mentioned him for the Steelers and I'd be very interested, 505 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: but he's a declining player. He's a declining player, and 506 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: he's not going to play special teams for you, and 507 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: he probably won't sign for cheap justin Houston, they're similar. 508 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 1: I'm sure who would rather have? Well, Houston has been 509 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: the more productive player. Uh he Barnwell has him signing 510 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: a one year, six million dollar deal with the Ravens. 511 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: I guess that fits. Would you consider giving him six 512 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: million if you're the Steelers? No, that's a lot because 513 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 1: he's a backup. That's a lot. I mean, you like 514 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: high Smith, you're not gonna say, Okay, Alex, we like you, 515 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: but we're gonna sign Justin Houston and play him ahead 516 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 1: of you. Oh. I wouldn't play him ahead of him. 517 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: I would just right. So you can't pay him. You 518 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: can't pay him six million dollars. He'd be my backup, 519 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: slash replacement, rotational guy. But that's a lot. That's why 520 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 1: when Steeler fans were talking about signing this guy or 521 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: that guy, you're not gonna upset the apple cart in 522 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 1: your in your salary structure by signing Justin Houston to 523 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: have him played twenty snaps a game. That's that's silly. Yeah, 524 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 1: it's too much. Um. Steven Nelson former Steelers cornerback. But 525 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 1: he signed soon signs a one year, four point five 526 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: million dollar deal with the Cardinals. Oh they need that's 527 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 1: a good fit. That's a good fit. I thought they 528 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 1: would address corner with one of the first two draft picks. 529 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: They didn't. They could. He would start right away for them. 530 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: Richard Sherman another guy that that Steeler fans have talked 531 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: about it. He's talked about, you know, wanting to come 532 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 1: play with the Steelers. He doesn't fit folks, not so well. 533 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: He's basically entirely been a left corner if you're which 534 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: happens to be the same side that Joe Hayden pays, 535 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 1: and they don't. They don't switch sides. I mean, I'm 536 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 1: sure you could switch it. It's not like left tackle 537 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: going to right tack. But one of them would be uncomfortable, 538 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: and then Sutton wouldn't be a starter, would just be 539 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: your slot, and Sherman has largely been and he's at 540 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: his best when he's playing his own defense, not man 541 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 1: to man. He's never run real well, No, he hasn't 542 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: super smart, and I think it'd be good for the 543 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: locker room. People think he's because he's outspoken, really smart. Yeah, 544 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: that doesn't bother me. But then your corners are both 545 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 1: what you get thirty three and thirty two year old cornerbacks. 546 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 1: That's not a good right way to like to do business. Uh. 547 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 1: One year, four million dollar deal to return to the 548 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: forty niners. They could use them. I mean again, they've 549 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: been very aggressive over there in it to win it. Uh. 550 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: kJ Wright still is not signed. Prediction is he signs 551 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 1: a one year two point five million dollar deal with 552 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 1: the Rams. Their linebackers are suspect and they're very familiar 553 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: with them, and they're always rotating lineback When you when 554 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: you have that Stars and Scrubs line up like they do, 555 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 1: they're always just kind of throwing whatever in the linebacker. 556 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: It's kind of like the Peyton Manning Colts. I mean, 557 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: they had all their money and weapons and edge rushers, 558 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: they just put fourth round picks the linebacker over and over. 559 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: Russell Kum No prediction for bar Wormwell is that he 560 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 1: signs a one year, six point five million dollar deal 561 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: with the Steelers. Interesting wed a good Morgan Moses conversation. 562 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: I don't know that they can afford a six point 563 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: one year, one year, six point five million. That doesn't 564 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: really work under their salary structure because right now they 565 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,959 Speaker 1: have enough money to sign their rookies and then they 566 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: have about six point five million dollars remaining. Uh and 567 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: they like to go into the into the season with 568 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,360 Speaker 1: that much money available. Uh. So you want to sign 569 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 1: him to a two year deal with that first year 570 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 1: being you know, counting two two and a half, and 571 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 1: then the next year being the you know where he 572 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: makes more money. That makes more sense, and you have 573 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: a lot more caps based next year, but he's missed 574 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: a lot of time to say you would hope he's 575 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: not your starter year from now too, and he might 576 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: not even start this year. Like you brought up Morgan 577 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: Moses last year, I had much rather have him. I 578 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: think he's the better player. He's younger, he's more reliable. 579 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: He's just he's just starting right tackle for the next 580 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: two years and the left side you have missed the games, 581 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: and he started every game since two thousan and fifteen. 582 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: I mean, he's just a yeah, he's got an iron 583 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: Man streak. One, that's what you want to me. Okay, 584 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that he beats out bann or Choose. 585 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: I mean he might, he might, yeah, but again he 586 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: hasn't played much football the last two seasons. And I 587 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: guess in a nutshell, I would rather have a left 588 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: than a right if I'm gonna buy one on the 589 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: open market. But I'd rather just have the better player 590 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: that's younger and more reliable. Now you're now, you're okay 591 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: at four spots on your line. You let those two 592 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: guys compete at the left tackle spot. See where it's at. 593 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: Trey Turner signs a one year, four and a half 594 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: million dollar deal with Detroit. Wow, that's like one of 595 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: the only things they have good is their line. Yeah. 596 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: I guess it's their style to bring me more alignment now. 597 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: But Golden Tate signs a one year, one point one 598 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: million dollar deal with the Titans. Yeah. I said he 599 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: could go to Detroit too. I mean Detroit des receivers. 600 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: Tennessee could add one more for sure. Julio has been 601 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: linked to Tennessee here and there. Todd Gurley signs a 602 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: one year, one point one million dollar deal with Kansas City. 603 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: If Todd Gurley only cost you one point one million dollars, 604 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: if I'm the Steelers, I look at that like, hey, 605 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: you want to come in and yeah, right, because that's 606 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: what you're gonna be. You're you're signing at one point 607 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: one million dollar deal. You're gonna be somebody's back up. 608 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: And he's gonna be a total spot player. Yeah, And 609 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: I mean his knees are shot basically, but he doesn't 610 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: look terrible at times. You can't overwork. They can still 611 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: catch the ball. He can still do some stuff for you. 612 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: If you had to spot. Start to me, bis better 613 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: better than Benny Snow. Yeah, I mean for the Chiefs, 614 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: he would probably play more than he would here. Um, 615 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: you know, they don't know much behind, you know, Clyde Edwards, Hilaire, 616 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: I can see that move for that, but I can 617 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: see I mean, you know, a guy like Gurley would 618 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: make sense. You're all of a sudden now you bring 619 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: him him in, Harris, Harris is gonna listen, listen, hey 620 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: VP one year? Right, Yeah, he's done a lot. No, 621 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense to me. Yeah, so 622 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: if you unless your doctors are just like easy for 623 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: us to say, but yeah, yeah, they could be like no, no, no, no, 624 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: I can't do that. But it's one year, I mean cheap, 625 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: he's in the league. Yeah, that's cheap. But that is 626 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: the Bill Barnwell predictions on what's going to happen here. 627 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: Some of the bigger names that are still available. Still 628 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: a lot of guys out there. There are still a 629 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: lot of guys out there. I'm I'm sure there's many 630 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: names and there'll be more and get some June first 631 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: cuts will probably be ten brand name guys that hit 632 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: the hit the market, and I'll be asked about every 633 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: one of them. Should he signed with the Steeler. Should 634 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: the Steelers sign this guy? Should Steeler sign Not everybody 635 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: who's a big name should be signed, folks, But I 636 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: bet they add somebody. But now in camp, Yeah, there's yeah, 637 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: there's a market for sure for these teams. Absolutely, there's teams. 638 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: There's guys like Jamison Crowder that could be on the 639 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: move and you know, and then somebody signs him and 640 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: boom he that saw Morgan Moses guy could ye on 641 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,239 Speaker 1: the open market. It's the domino effect, people say. I 642 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: was asked when I wrote about that, why do you 643 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: get cut in Washington? Well, he's making ten million dollars 644 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: a year and Leno fell on their lap. Yeah. I 645 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: don't know that Leno is a better player than him, 646 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: but it's I don't wouldn't say it's not markedly And 647 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: they drafted caused me in the same round. But they 648 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: got then when they get cheaper, get yeah, get the 649 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: GPS based. Yeah, he's not gonna get ten millions next home, right, 650 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, he'll get a decent deal and 651 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: he'll be a starter somewhere, but he's not gonna be 652 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: a ten million player anymore. Yeah, I agree, so, but 653 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for this segment. So for my 654 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: partner Matt Williamson, for Jacob Rick here on site keeping 655 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: us on the air, I'm Dale Lally. We thank you 656 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: for listening to this edition of the Drive on Steelers 657 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: Nation Rate