Speaker 1: As a guide an hunter. I've spent thousands of days
Speaker 1: in the field. This show is about translating my hard
Speaker 1: won experiences into tips and tactics they'll get you closer
Speaker 1: to your ultimate goal success in the field. I'm Remy Warren.
Speaker 1: This is Cutting the Distance. Thank you guys so much
Speaker 1: for coming. I'm pretty excited because this is uh. If
Speaker 1: you listen to Cutting the Distance podcast, this will be
Speaker 1: the first one where I've actually had other people on
Speaker 1: it besides myself just talking. So thank you guys. This
Speaker 1: is like a first for me and I'm pretty excited
Speaker 1: about that. Um So, for those listening to the Cutting
Speaker 1: the Distance right now, we're at the uh, we're at
Speaker 1: the Pope and Young Club convention in Reno, Nevada. Is
Speaker 1: the sixtie anniversary this year, and there's some incredible animals,
Speaker 1: a lot of the one the exhibit thing that I've
Speaker 1: been looking at, the most of the older oh man,
Speaker 1: just some nice meal, there's some good elk and uh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's pretty cool to get so many bow hunters here together.
Speaker 1: Um So, I'm gonna open it up and I just
Speaker 1: want to do kind of like any kind of questions
Speaker 1: and answers, any questions you have about anything. I mean,
Speaker 1: my specialty is bow hunting, Western big game hunting, public
Speaker 1: land hunting. But I mean, if you've got a question,
Speaker 1: I'm sure I can find an answer for you. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to tell you it's a right answer, but
Speaker 1: I think most of them are pretty correct. So I
Speaker 1: want to open it up. Who let's maybe start with
Speaker 1: somebody that came the furthest. What's who's come from? Where
Speaker 1: is the furthest that somebody's coming from atlant that's pretty far.
Speaker 1: Welcome to my hometown of Reno, Nevada. Except we're right now.
Speaker 1: I said this the other night. We're in Sparks. So
Speaker 1: if this is like, if you're having a bad experience,
Speaker 1: blames Sparks, not Reno. Um, you gotta if you have
Speaker 1: a question or anything. If you don't, don't feel the
Speaker 1: pressure to open it up for us. But uh, just
Speaker 1: curious where some other people might be coming, Yeah, or
Speaker 1: your experience. Which wastern state is the most friendly to
Speaker 1: non residents? Which western state is the most friendly to
Speaker 1: nonresidents the standpoint of sharing their tags, from the standpoint
Speaker 1: of tag availability or specific Yeah, I mean that's a
Speaker 1: really good question. I think, Uh, It just depends on
Speaker 1: the way that you look at it. Um. I mean,
Speaker 1: like my home state here in Nevada, I think is
Speaker 1: really good because they have dedicated nonresident tags, so whereas
Speaker 1: some other states, you're in a pool, but you can
Speaker 1: only draw a certain percentage where it's like, hey, there's
Speaker 1: tags allocated to nonresidents, which I think is pretty cool
Speaker 1: because there's a sheep tag that you know is going
Speaker 1: to go to a nonresident. Where many states you might
Speaker 1: apply and say I'm applying in a nonresident pool, they
Speaker 1: can draw up to ten percent. You're in the same
Speaker 1: pool as everyone else, and then once that quote is drawn, um,
Speaker 1: you're out. And it doesn't matter if the first three
Speaker 1: people three units got a nonresident, your choice might not
Speaker 1: ever even get looked at. And so I kind of
Speaker 1: dislike that approach. Now when it comes to maybe planning
Speaker 1: a hunt. Uh, states that offer over the counter tags,
Speaker 1: I would say that's really you know, amicable to nonresidents.
Speaker 1: So UM for ELK. When it comes to ELK, you
Speaker 1: know you've got Colorado which has probably the most over
Speaker 1: the counter opportunities for nonresidents between archery and rifle seasons. Um,
Speaker 1: then there's you know one often overlooked state, And I
Speaker 1: mean I hate to just put a certain state on blast,
Speaker 1: but as a nonresident to California, there's actually some really
Speaker 1: good hunting opportunity there for just looking to pick up
Speaker 1: a tag and do a Western big game style hunting.
Speaker 1: It gets often overlooked. There's a lot of hunters, but
Speaker 1: there is the opportunity to buy two over the counter
Speaker 1: deer tags, and there's plenty of public land, plenty of
Speaker 1: wilderness areas. There's some tough hunting, but um, there's some
Speaker 1: good hunting as well. So anywhere that there's those kind
Speaker 1: of opportunities, I feel like those are those are pretty
Speaker 1: good to nonresidents. Now when it comes to um residents
Speaker 1: like saying, hey there's some nonresidents hunting here. We're gonna,
Speaker 1: you know, give him a show around and and open
Speaker 1: the doors. Um, I think that, uh, well, I don't
Speaker 1: know what state would probably be the best if anybody
Speaker 1: has says like all my home states that I think
Speaker 1: you're here in Nevada were pretty We're pretty welcoming to
Speaker 1: nonresident hunters for a couple of reasons. Um. One is
Speaker 1: you know you've got your own tags, those aren't you
Speaker 1: aren't taking them out of our resident pool or anything
Speaker 1: like that. We've got special tags for you. But the
Speaker 1: other thing about that is we know that a lot
Speaker 1: of our tags are we have no over the counter tags,
Speaker 1: it's all draws, and we know that nonresident dollars, most
Speaker 1: of you are buying a hunting license to apply here,
Speaker 1: and you're never gonna hunt here. You know, you're just
Speaker 1: applying and getting points, and so that funds everything that
Speaker 1: we do as residents. That funds are water projects, that
Speaker 1: funds are other things. So it's like, hey, you finally
Speaker 1: got a tag suite. Um. I know, I've run into
Speaker 1: other people that have run into hunt, like resident hunters
Speaker 1: in Nevada, and they're like, yeah, we'll show you around
Speaker 1: and you know, like come check this out. So I
Speaker 1: think that that's you know, it's a little uh sales
Speaker 1: pitch from my own home state, but I think that
Speaker 1: it's pretty good because there are other places I've gone
Speaker 1: as a nonresident and they see an out of state
Speaker 1: plate and you're immediately getting um, your tires slack in
Speaker 1: whatever at the trailhead and that happens to um, Yeah,
Speaker 1: any other any other questions or I can just start
Speaker 1: calling on people. So let's we'll do a format of
Speaker 1: like say your name maybe if you want where you're from.
Speaker 1: If you're incognito, nobody knows you're here, then you just
Speaker 1: don't say, make up a name. John Doe's f j
Speaker 1: D from Central Oregon. Um. Does your optics set up
Speaker 1: change much from the beginning of the season to the
Speaker 1: end or do you primarily stay with the same Yeah,
Speaker 1: so my optics set up it really Yeah, it does
Speaker 1: change a lot. So I kind of tailor my optics
Speaker 1: to the hunt that I'm doing at that time. Um,
Speaker 1: there's a few reasons for that. One is weight savings,
Speaker 1: and two is like every hunt has kind of its
Speaker 1: own optics. I would say, like a certain thing that
Speaker 1: the optics you're gonna make better. So if I am,
Speaker 1: for instance, let's say I've got an over the counter
Speaker 1: general area ELK tag and I'm archery hunting and it
Speaker 1: is a backcountry hunt, my optics is just pretty much
Speaker 1: just gonna be my binoculars or and or a super
Speaker 1: small light spotting scope. Because I'm not necessarily interested in
Speaker 1: trophy potential. I'm just saying, like here I'm looking for
Speaker 1: an ELK, I'm gonna have to go light and fast
Speaker 1: them in the back country. I don't want a lot
Speaker 1: of weight um and I don't need to really pick
Speaker 1: apart a certain animal. Now, if you're saying, hey, I
Speaker 1: drew a Nevada early season archery deer tag, my optics
Speaker 1: package is going to change from binoculars a high power
Speaker 1: spotting scope and maybe even a high power set of
Speaker 1: binoculars because it's gonna be a super glassing intensive glass
Speaker 1: ng more country is gonna lend to potentially, you know,
Speaker 1: finding more animals, but also I might be wanting to
Speaker 1: check out what exactly does that buck across the canyon
Speaker 1: look like. I don't want to have to walk over
Speaker 1: there and find out because I'm gonna say that's not exactly.
Speaker 1: It doesn't have the forks that I'm looking for, it
Speaker 1: doesn't have the width that I'm looking for, doesn't have
Speaker 1: the age that I'm looking for, and I want to
Speaker 1: be able to tell that from my glass a vantage
Speaker 1: and cover a lot of country with my eyes. Spring
Speaker 1: bear hunting is another an example, uh spot sox spring
Speaker 1: bear hunting, big open country, super optics intensive. I don't
Speaker 1: mind adding that extra weight for optics on those kind
Speaker 1: of hunts. And then there's certain hunts where it's like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm not really picking them apart. I can. It's maybe
Speaker 1: like denser country, or I might be doing more still hunting,
Speaker 1: and I lighten or increase the amount or types of
Speaker 1: optics that I'm using based on the hunt. UM One
Speaker 1: one thing that I've found like super helpful that I've
Speaker 1: kind of incorporated into a lot of my hunts, specially
Speaker 1: back country type hunts. I'll have uh, maybe a higher
Speaker 1: pairer power pair of binoculars around my neck, like a
Speaker 1: twelve by fifty, and then a small like um, I
Speaker 1: can't remember it is like a thirteen thirty three with
Speaker 1: a small objective lens spotting scope, super lightweight. It's like
Speaker 1: it's in my pack. I can use it for verification
Speaker 1: and for most things, but um, I got it a
Speaker 1: little bit of that weight saving and for me though,
Speaker 1: I'm carrying a lot of camera gear too, so my
Speaker 1: pack isn't like if I didn't have if I wasn't filming,
Speaker 1: didn't have that any need for extra Like I've got
Speaker 1: all the stuff on my back and I don't have
Speaker 1: extra camera stuff in there, then I would probably always
Speaker 1: throw in better optics as well, but for me, it's
Speaker 1: like I'm kind of doing a delicate balance between carrying
Speaker 1: camera gear and then also, um, you know, needing the
Speaker 1: right tools for the right hunt. Who's anybody here from
Speaker 1: the Reno Tahoe area? You got any questions? I guess
Speaker 1: one of my questions. I know, like the first episode
Speaker 1: I watched with you, I think you had that defornation tag, right?
Speaker 1: I had that last year, very difficult tag, and you're successful.
Speaker 1: It was a hard huh. Yeah, yeah, he's asking about, Um,
Speaker 1: I ended up getting a pretty big velvet ball out
Speaker 1: of Nevada on a depth tag and what that was. Essentially,
Speaker 1: they're trying to say, get rid of the elk here, um,
Speaker 1: and I think I don't know when I got that tag.
Speaker 1: They gave you a letter like there are no elk,
Speaker 1: you won't see any elk. Shoot the first elk you ce, please,
Speaker 1: and it's like yeah, And I was like, well, the
Speaker 1: first elk I saw it was a three eight three
Speaker 1: bull and then I kept looking for that three evil
Speaker 1: and six days later ended up finding it again, which
Speaker 1: is pretty incredible, but just really thick country. Um, not
Speaker 1: a lot of not a lot of I mean, you
Speaker 1: know there there's definitely out there and there's but you know,
Speaker 1: now it's completely different too because there's quite a few
Speaker 1: different depth punts in the state and there's um something
Speaker 1: that have been going on for a while and issuing
Speaker 1: a lot more tags and other things. But that's probably
Speaker 1: one of those hunts that always remember is being very
Speaker 1: fortunate that I was able to take such a good
Speaker 1: bowl and a velvet bowl, which I was kind of
Speaker 1: like set my sights on and this might be my
Speaker 1: only opportunity to get a velvet bowl, So that's what
Speaker 1: I was really looking for, um, and it's just it's
Speaker 1: just ended up working out. So that was pretty cool.
Speaker 1: One question I did have about I mean, sure you
Speaker 1: were like early archery season for bowl hunting, and it's
Speaker 1: very difficult because we don't get hunt the run right
Speaker 1: and you know, at summary you might catch the beginning
Speaker 1: of the run of your lucky like an early one day, Um,
Speaker 1: they just started bugling towards the end with like in
Speaker 1: those earlier hunts like Obvious six wants seven one where
Speaker 1: they start like August sixteen and then you got two weeks. Um,
Speaker 1: it's pretty difficult, like and a lot of places, you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of places have a lot of waters and
Speaker 1: I have no water. Um oh would your advice to
Speaker 1: US archers and those? Yeah, so for those for those
Speaker 1: archery hunts where it's a in a seat and there's
Speaker 1: a lot of states that have those like limited draw
Speaker 1: archery tag in great Elk units and you're like, man,
Speaker 1: this season is really too early to hit the rut
Speaker 1: and I've got a bow in my hand. Um you know.
Speaker 1: So there's a couple of things. The first thing I
Speaker 1: do is kind of play on that what are these
Speaker 1: bulls doing pre rut? So you got to think about
Speaker 1: before you even get to that. So, like I step
Speaker 1: in the unit, let's say it's that August first season,
Speaker 1: You're like, well, what were they doing? I like to
Speaker 1: know what they're doing up until I get into that area.
Speaker 1: So what are they doing in the summer? So you
Speaker 1: think about, okay, elk behavior those bulls, Like what are
Speaker 1: the big bulls doing right now? Because you waited your
Speaker 1: whole life to draw that tag. You want to make it,
Speaker 1: you want to make it happen. So those big bulls
Speaker 1: are gonna be bachelored up, you know. And what they're
Speaker 1: doing is there one you know, from spring until through
Speaker 1: summer growing their antlers, and so they're focused on that growth.
Speaker 1: That the energy that an elk puts into antler growth
Speaker 1: is the same as the energy that a cow does
Speaker 1: to produce a calf. So you think about it, it's
Speaker 1: like it's growing a baby on its head, and what's
Speaker 1: it gonna need. It's gonna need a lot of fuel,
Speaker 1: it's gonna need water, it's gonna need some security. But
Speaker 1: it's minds completely focused on feeding and growing, feeding and growing,
Speaker 1: because this just is craving those nutrients. It's craving those minerals,
Speaker 1: is craving growing those antlers, and so you're gonna think about, Okay,
Speaker 1: where are those areas where that elk can do that
Speaker 1: because you're you're focusing on what do those animals need? Now? Now,
Speaker 1: as it progresses from summer into that season, what starts
Speaker 1: to happen. They start to shed their velvet, they start
Speaker 1: to split off from those bachelor groups, and then they're
Speaker 1: kind of doing this thing in between where they're they
Speaker 1: just spend all this energy growing, but they're just about
Speaker 1: to hit into the rut. And elk are completely different
Speaker 1: from deers where they grow their antlers and then they
Speaker 1: pretty much start rutting very shortly after, so there's gonna
Speaker 1: be this huge like bulk up phase, you know. So
Speaker 1: the way that I think about it is they're gonna
Speaker 1: bulk up for the rut. And that's why when you notice,
Speaker 1: like during the rut, it's like cows and are kind
Speaker 1: of run by these like satellite bulls and they do
Speaker 1: all this expending energy, expending energy because they just don't
Speaker 1: know any better. And those big mature bulls, they're like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna beef up. I'm gonna wait my turn,
Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna like that old adage like the
Speaker 1: young bull runs down like I'm gonna go get a cow,
Speaker 1: and the bull bulls like I'm just gonna walk down
Speaker 1: there and take them all. Um. So you know, he's
Speaker 1: he's really like left this summer feeding cycle split off
Speaker 1: from the herd because he's like, hey, now these are
Speaker 1: my enemies. But he's like, I'm gonna bulk up for
Speaker 1: the next one. And so what I tend to find
Speaker 1: is a lot of people lose those big bulls in
Speaker 1: that in that split time frame between the rut and
Speaker 1: between the summer feeding. And what I've found is they
Speaker 1: kind of like those bulls split off and they're very
Speaker 1: close to where their summer feeding because they already know
Speaker 1: those patterns, but they've gone into a more security pattern
Speaker 1: as well, so they're still hitting those same kind of
Speaker 1: summer feeding things and that's where that summer scouting can
Speaker 1: play off really well on those early hunts. So where
Speaker 1: you've seen them where they've got a really good, high
Speaker 1: quality food source where they can bulk up before that rut,
Speaker 1: that's where you're gonna find them. They aren't probably gonna
Speaker 1: be with those cows checking those other areas. Another thing
Speaker 1: they'll be doing is possibly, you know, like finding that
Speaker 1: spot where they've got that water source. But like you say,
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes there's water everywhere, sometimes there's no water,
Speaker 1: so a water source could be a good way to
Speaker 1: focus in on another thing that they need. Um, but
Speaker 1: really focusing on that food source um and like thinking
Speaker 1: food minded, I think a lot of people forget about
Speaker 1: that early archery season. ELK is like they're still focusing
Speaker 1: on food because your mind's like they're gonna start running
Speaker 1: focusing on the cows, and some will they'll be cruising
Speaker 1: and checking things out, but they aren't gonna be you know,
Speaker 1: like if you find a big basin where there's a
Speaker 1: lot of action, yeah, you might start seeing some you know,
Speaker 1: some bulls coming in, but you'll notice like in Nevada
Speaker 1: and some some of more arid places, I feel like
Speaker 1: things progress a lot quicker than maybe some of the
Speaker 1: more mountainous places where it's like they do that and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden it goes from like no
Speaker 1: rut to rut. I'm sure you've realized that it's like
Speaker 1: there's no big bulls out and now all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: the big bulls are bugling, and it seems earlier or whatever.
Speaker 1: But I think it's because it's more of a density thing,
Speaker 1: like higher bull to cow ratios, and that kind of
Speaker 1: pushes the activity um or progresses the activity a little
Speaker 1: bit faster in my opinion, where you go to somewhere
Speaker 1: mountainous like Montana, Colorado, whatever, where they've got water and everything,
Speaker 1: and they've got herds of nine cows and it's like
Speaker 1: everybody can kind of get a cow, so that rut
Speaker 1: action doesn't increase at the same rate that it does
Speaker 1: in a more arid place where there's bull the cow ratios,
Speaker 1: and maybe likewy To one and where they have to
Speaker 1: fight harder get those cows and there's less resources for
Speaker 1: those bulls. Yeah, We've got a question from the Pope
Speaker 1: and Young page. What's your workout regimen and preparation for season? Yeah, so,
Speaker 1: I mean it depends on the year. For the most part,
Speaker 1: the scouting is the workout for the hunt, know, and
Speaker 1: then and then pre scouting would be looking for shed antlers,
Speaker 1: and then and then before that would be chucker hunting
Speaker 1: and small game hunting. So my thing is like I
Speaker 1: love to train by doing, and it's just getting out
Speaker 1: and being in the field. But on like years like
Speaker 1: this where it's completely I'm you know, I wasn't able
Speaker 1: to normally I'm spending three months in New Zealand hunting
Speaker 1: and guiding and doing whatever or or um you're going
Speaker 1: on other hunts and being in other places. So you know,
Speaker 1: I just the same train by doing, putting on a
Speaker 1: weighted pack, getting that aerobic activity and just like building
Speaker 1: up that muscle memory for what I'm gonna do and
Speaker 1: then to do in a short amount of time. I
Speaker 1: just increase the speed and the weight, so it kind
Speaker 1: of mimics that fatigue that you might get later on
Speaker 1: by carrying that heavy pack up a hill if you
Speaker 1: don't have a hill. An incline on a treadmill is
Speaker 1: stair or what a stair climb or something where you
Speaker 1: can kind of mimic that muscle memory in those movements
Speaker 1: that you're gonna create out in the field. Number one
Speaker 1: tips for archery analope hunting spot, I mean number one
Speaker 1: tip for archery antelope hunting spot and stock has to
Speaker 1: be you have to focus on, Like anything that I hunt,
Speaker 1: you gotta focus on what are the strongest at, like
Speaker 1: what is their defense mechanism and then how do I
Speaker 1: trick that with a prong horn? Their defenses their eyes.
Speaker 1: So anytime you can you say like, oh, any time
Speaker 1: you can fool their eyes, well, how do you do that? Um?
Speaker 1: I actually tend to not necessarily hunt for antle. Like
Speaker 1: you can go out spot and stock. Analop hunting in
Speaker 1: the flats and see hundred thousand antle open a day
Speaker 1: doesn't mean anything. You gotta trick their eyes and if
Speaker 1: you if they can see you coming from a long
Speaker 1: ways away, it's no good. So there's a few things
Speaker 1: that I do. First, I actually look for antalope habitat
Speaker 1: where I know that it's broken enough that I'm actually
Speaker 1: gonna be able to trick their eyes. And there's gonna
Speaker 1: be fewer antal open there because they kind of feel
Speaker 1: at disadvantage. But I'd rather hunt those areas where I
Speaker 1: know I can find a buck, I can watch him,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be able to get a stock. And
Speaker 1: by doing that, I've been extremely successful spotting stock antalope hunting. UM.
Speaker 1: Last year was the first year that kind of messed
Speaker 1: up my record, But UM, I generally had this thing.
Speaker 1: I was like, I would go out and I would
Speaker 1: give myself one day and I just and oh. The
Speaker 1: other thing is pretty much, chase every antelope you've got
Speaker 1: an opportunity at. And that's that's another good, good tip. UM.
Speaker 1: The other the other thing I would say is like
Speaker 1: if it if it is super flat, UM, it's just
Speaker 1: a lot of crawling because you know that you can
Speaker 1: you can kind of be under that perceived You don't
Speaker 1: want to seem like, um a predator. So being like
Speaker 1: under that threshold of perception, and so I kind of
Speaker 1: keep telling myself this like over and over, like go
Speaker 1: slow enough, low enough that like they don't perceive you
Speaker 1: as a threat. You're just something else out there, and
Speaker 1: that I've had a lot of success doing that. It's
Speaker 1: a lot of work. Your neck will be like I
Speaker 1: tracked it one day and I crawled six miles and
Speaker 1: I couldn't figure out why. I had like the worst
Speaker 1: headache in my life, and my whole body hurt. And
Speaker 1: I was like, oh yeah, I crawled six miles. But
Speaker 1: in that day I snuck on two antelope and shot
Speaker 1: a really good buck. So like, okay, cool, you know,
Speaker 1: but when it doesn't work out, you know, then you
Speaker 1: got to do that three or four days in a row.
Speaker 1: That makes it tough. So then you might want to
Speaker 1: start looking for that more broken terrain. Um. And then
Speaker 1: there are other tricks and tactics decoys. UM. I haven't
Speaker 1: had a whole lot of success with decoys in my life. UM,
Speaker 1: but you know, every once in a while, I mean
Speaker 1: I've had a buddy. I gave him one of those
Speaker 1: cow uh like a cow shields kind of thing, like here,
Speaker 1: use this, you know. He's like they were just using
Speaker 1: it to cross those big wide opens behind antelope. And
Speaker 1: there's a boot and crocket buck out there about half
Speaker 1: a mile away. Saw that cow decoy charged him and
Speaker 1: his wife shotted in twenty yards you know, so like
Speaker 1: that doesn't really happen for me, but that's also a
Speaker 1: good tactic. Yeah, so you're I know, how busy you are.
Speaker 1: Everybody here can imagine how busy or what's your archery
Speaker 1: practice routine, Like how do you find time and what
Speaker 1: do you focus on when you do at the time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's a good question, um for me. I mean, well,
Speaker 1: I'm sure like with most Bohners, I just I love
Speaker 1: eating my bow so pretty much any time that I am,
Speaker 1: even during the season, Like when I'm hunting, I'm always
Speaker 1: practicing shooting. I've got a three D target that I
Speaker 1: normally shoot at, and I'm fortunate that I can shoot
Speaker 1: kind of like I mean, I I can just walk
Speaker 1: out and climb a mountain behind my house and start shooting. Um,
Speaker 1: So I get a lot of that angle practice. I
Speaker 1: get a lot of that. I kind of do a
Speaker 1: little bit everything, but I'm mostly like if I'm practicing,
Speaker 1: I'm mostly shooting at three D targets. Um. I like
Speaker 1: to kind of get in that perception, that headspace of
Speaker 1: like I'm here hunting and like my practice is based
Speaker 1: on hunting. So I don't do a lot of shooting
Speaker 1: at spots. I don't do a lot of shooting. I
Speaker 1: just shoot at an animal for not even for a score,
Speaker 1: but for like what would be an ethical kill? Um
Speaker 1: get those angles like the quartering away quartering too, um
Speaker 1: up and down, left and right, sideways, the one of
Speaker 1: my and like any time I a past high season,
Speaker 1: if I have a miss or whatever, I really replay
Speaker 1: these things in my head, and I then try to
Speaker 1: recreate the things that I find a week and us
Speaker 1: in in the field. So one thing that I've noticed
Speaker 1: over the years, like if I I like keep track
Speaker 1: of like okay, man, there's this hunt meal your hunter,
Speaker 1: or this hunt. I remember, there's quite a few, and
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I missed that animal or this
Speaker 1: this went wrong. And I found that there's actually like
Speaker 1: one position that I was really bad at, and it
Speaker 1: was shooting downhill like while crowd, like in a semi
Speaker 1: crouch squat position, because your muscles are all going real weird.
Speaker 1: But that's like the most natural, Like you sneak up
Speaker 1: from above something, I mean, every like the best stocks
Speaker 1: are sneaking in from above and then you draw back
Speaker 1: out of sight and then you rise up. Well, as
Speaker 1: you're rising up, I don't want to be full fledged
Speaker 1: skylined let him see me. So I'm always kind of
Speaker 1: like just barely over the rise, half squatting, drawn back,
Speaker 1: and I tend to miss those shots, and so those
Speaker 1: are like okay, then I start. That's like the majority
Speaker 1: of the way I practice now is those ways that
Speaker 1: like those really awkward, uncomfortable things that I encounter in
Speaker 1: the field as opposed to just flat ground shooting, um
Speaker 1: or shooting at a specific thing. I like to like
Speaker 1: build in hunting practice with that archery practice, and then um,
Speaker 1: you know, out on the road whatever, if I'm out
Speaker 1: like even during guiding season or whatever, or in camp,
Speaker 1: I take those rubber blunt tips and I just like
Speaker 1: to rove, like shoot pine guns, shoot things like the
Speaker 1: things that I've learned about the way the practice as
Speaker 1: a kid with my recurve. I'll do that with my
Speaker 1: compound bow in hunting camp or in a back country setting, Like, hey,
Speaker 1: I don't want the first time that like you know,
Speaker 1: you just knock the dust off. It's like, yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: be out there midday seeing like a rock across the canyon,
Speaker 1: just send it, you know, it's just like, yeah, it
Speaker 1: feels good to get that shot in in the field
Speaker 1: where you're at and know that like, hey, if that
Speaker 1: was a deer there in the middle of the day, cool,
Speaker 1: I could have made that shot. So kind of like
Speaker 1: constantly constantly practicing in those situations. Do you practice with
Speaker 1: the tips that you hunt with? Yeah, so, I mean
Speaker 1: a lot of it. It depends on the how well
Speaker 1: tuned my bow is. You know, I've had bows in
Speaker 1: the past. It's like, once I get the broadheads on,
Speaker 1: I can't get the field tips to fly right, and
Speaker 1: then I've got most of my bows though, I get
Speaker 1: to tune where it's like it's it's pretty negligible the
Speaker 1: difference between my broadhead and my field tip. Um. So.
Speaker 1: But most of the time, yeah, I always make sure
Speaker 1: that I shoot with those broadheads, and I like to
Speaker 1: it tune to my broadheads. Um I use fixed blades
Speaker 1: a lot, just because some of the places that I hunt,
Speaker 1: you can't even use mechanicals, and I just don't like
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just personal preference, Like a lot of
Speaker 1: I like to hunt all kinds of different terrain and
Speaker 1: I don't want grass or something, and I like to
Speaker 1: be able to shoot through whatever I'm aiming at, whether
Speaker 1: it be grass or an elk or whatever. I just
Speaker 1: always want there to be on the other side of
Speaker 1: whatever I'm shooting at. Um, So that's yeah, I shoot
Speaker 1: with the products. Are there any bucket list hunts that
Speaker 1: you haven't completely hand that are still out there that
Speaker 1: a bucket list hunt? That's a good question. I mean there, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're there, definitely are there's I think for me, there's
Speaker 1: like some adventure type stuff, some sheep and some like
Speaker 1: weird places. There's a lot of a lot of the
Speaker 1: hunts that I've always wanted to do. I've somehow I
Speaker 1: managed to go on them and which is pretty awesome. Um,
Speaker 1: but I a blue sheep, and Nepal is like something
Speaker 1: that I think would be pretty cool just to be
Speaker 1: in like a really high altitude and kind of see
Speaker 1: that country and the way that the people are there
Speaker 1: and just kind of like a crazy adventure. And then
Speaker 1: some even just some like just more of these places
Speaker 1: like uh, mid Asia. There's some places I still haven't
Speaker 1: explored yet that I'd like to ibex and stuff there,
Speaker 1: and um and some places in like Russia that I
Speaker 1: think are kind of remote and untouched, just some just
Speaker 1: some places that you go and you're like, it's more
Speaker 1: about that place, so it could be. I mean, I'd
Speaker 1: probably just one hunted jack rabbit there if I could,
Speaker 1: you know, just like just to go on that and
Speaker 1: you kind of experience that place and see just like
Speaker 1: the culture around it. I really love going to like
Speaker 1: far flung places and just seeing like the coolest thing
Speaker 1: to me is like being in a place that's so
Speaker 1: different than where we're at and then meeting up with
Speaker 1: somebody that hunts or whatever and just realizing like we
Speaker 1: have the same exact passion. We've got like the same drive,
Speaker 1: we understand the same thing, we do things a smilar way.
Speaker 1: Like it's just a really cool I don't know, it's
Speaker 1: like this, I mean, you can talk about it like
Speaker 1: this is a really cool connection with hunters. It's like
Speaker 1: we all kind of do the same thing and we
Speaker 1: don't even know that. And like one thing that I
Speaker 1: thought was cool is like even starting guiding and then
Speaker 1: going international and guiding, and there's certain things that I
Speaker 1: picked up from certain people, and then there's things that
Speaker 1: I found I just had nobody teach me how to
Speaker 1: quarter an animal, but I just found the most effective
Speaker 1: way to do it for me. And then I go
Speaker 1: to like sent mid Asia and there's people that live
Speaker 1: off the land there and they quarter the animal the
Speaker 1: exact way that I do, you know, with a small
Speaker 1: knife and never have to break a bone or use
Speaker 1: a saw because they just don't have those tools. And
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, they could they could essentially
Speaker 1: do the thing with a rock, and it's like, well,
Speaker 1: they found the most efficient way to do it, and
Speaker 1: somehow on my own I found the most efficient way
Speaker 1: to do it. And it's like a really cool like
Speaker 1: aha moment where you're like, whoa, this is a really
Speaker 1: cool experience that we kind of do the same thing
Speaker 1: and don't even know. It's like in our DNA or
Speaker 1: something about it is like very very familiar yere um,
Speaker 1: whether you know the language or not, Like you can
Speaker 1: you know, connect over that fire and you're like you've
Speaker 1: got you, Like I get you. I was like one
Speaker 1: of my favorite one of my favorite things is like
Speaker 1: last year I was in Kurgus or not last year.
Speaker 1: We just skippy year, will just pretend last year was
Speaker 1: like nineteen whatever. Um it was in Kyrgyzstan and driving
Speaker 1: out there there's like these two guys and I was like,
Speaker 1: this is like three days in a car kind of thing.
Speaker 1: And we're like driving through this mountain pass and they
Speaker 1: stopped in the little village and you got like this
Speaker 1: breakdown old shotgun and we're driving up this mountain pass
Speaker 1: road and these chucker like fly across the road and
Speaker 1: his eyes got big and he slams on the brakes
Speaker 1: and gets out. He's like loading up that shotgun, like
Speaker 1: sneaking down the road check or flush and he shoots
Speaker 1: these chucker and I'm like that dude straight out of Nevada.
Speaker 1: Like I was like, I know you, bro, Like we
Speaker 1: are the same person, you know. I was like this guy,
Speaker 1: he was just all about his chucker hunting, and I
Speaker 1: was like I've been there, Like I know what it's
Speaker 1: like to drive Dusty Rhodes forever and then you see
Speaker 1: a checker and you're like, hell yeah, run up. I
Speaker 1: mean he was running up the mountain like I was like,
Speaker 1: I've been there. So it's just, uh, I don't know
Speaker 1: this this fun story to though. Yeah. Yeah. Other than
Speaker 1: a passport, some of the basics what are like firky
Speaker 1: items or otherwise for those international hunts that are like
Speaker 1: you gotta hea it um for any kind of like
Speaker 1: international hunt. That's a good question. Um. One thing I
Speaker 1: think is just like a good a good strategy of
Speaker 1: how you're gonna get like logistically planning ahead, like how
Speaker 1: you're gonna get things back. So um, I found like
Speaker 1: I use the Yeti panga bags a lot um because
Speaker 1: I know it's like water. It's like it's a weird
Speaker 1: thing to think, like, oh, what's a really important thing,
Speaker 1: And just like having a durable waterproof bag is pretty
Speaker 1: important because it's like your stuff is gonna be everywhere.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to get like maybe you know, hide
Speaker 1: or meat back or whatever. So something that you can
Speaker 1: like freeze things in, put him in, zip it up.
Speaker 1: You know it's safe, Like nothing is gonna leak out,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get some airport violation whatever. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: like having that logistical plan of how to get things back.
Speaker 1: And then the other thing is definitely having a you
Speaker 1: like having that plan and then knowing that none of
Speaker 1: that plan is gonna work out like whatever you do,
Speaker 1: just knowing that like, hey, things are gonna go wrong,
Speaker 1: like things are gonna get lost. I mean I've been
Speaker 1: on uh some trips where it's like, you know, nothing
Speaker 1: showed up for however many days and like, hey, it
Speaker 1: didn't matter when you just go out, I'll just go hiker,
Speaker 1: like we'll do whatever. Um, you know, like having that
Speaker 1: mentality of like things are gonna go wrong probably and
Speaker 1: there's nothing you can do about it. Just have a
Speaker 1: good time. UM. I would say, you know, as far
Speaker 1: as like specific gear items, I mean, it's pretty much
Speaker 1: just my standard main hunting stuff. One thing that I
Speaker 1: would do highly suggest, um, if you're traveling and you're
Speaker 1: gonna like I've done a lot of like international d
Speaker 1: I Y type stuff, and so I think that some
Speaker 1: of the things that I've learned maybe don't apply to everyone,
Speaker 1: but I think they are good tips. First thing if
Speaker 1: your phone getting unlocked phone, um. And then the first
Speaker 1: thing I do when I get in the airport is
Speaker 1: I take my SIM card out and I put in
Speaker 1: the SIM card from there, Because what happens if you
Speaker 1: like if you run into someone or whatever, even if
Speaker 1: you're guided, like how are you going to contact? Like
Speaker 1: they can't call an international number? Put a put a
Speaker 1: local SIM card in your phone, and then you can
Speaker 1: order a pizza somebody needs to or you can do
Speaker 1: whatever you need. You know, you can actually call a hotel,
Speaker 1: you can make like if something gets lost, your luggage
Speaker 1: gets lost, you don't have to call a fifteen party
Speaker 1: over in call center from an internet you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Just called that airport directly and that makes
Speaker 1: a big difference. Um. That's like the probably the single
Speaker 1: best tip I could ever give you is just like
Speaker 1: as soon as you get there, get a different simcard
Speaker 1: and then you can make calls and connect with people
Speaker 1: and things will happen and you aren't like reliant on
Speaker 1: I hate that feeling of like, oh I need somebody
Speaker 1: to do something for me. You can just kind of
Speaker 1: like get it done yourself. Um. So that's another little
Speaker 1: travel tip. What about gloves or gear for the crawling
Speaker 1: for antelope putting? Oh yeah, um, I've I think kneepads
Speaker 1: are a great idea. I've just never had them with me.
Speaker 1: I don't know, like, um, and yeah, gloves definitely definitely
Speaker 1: h one thing that I do. Like, Um, I've got
Speaker 1: some gloves that almost have that like uh like plastic
Speaker 1: e knuckle guard like Moto gloves. Um, because you gotta
Speaker 1: think about your like crawling with your bow and other things.
Speaker 1: I also have a stabilizerz are on my bow that
Speaker 1: I kind of use as like a crawling crutch. Um,
Speaker 1: So I'll use that sometimes. But having some kind of
Speaker 1: like protection on your knuckles and then any kind of
Speaker 1: like if you were able to uh put something over
Speaker 1: your knees that always helps. UM. I generally do kind
Speaker 1: of like this modified like I kind of depending on
Speaker 1: where the animal is and whatever, I kind of do
Speaker 1: different crawls. Did not like burn out a certain burn
Speaker 1: out a certain way. Like a modified crab crawl is
Speaker 1: always a little bit easier like on your back, on
Speaker 1: your butt scooting than kind of crawling than army crawling.
Speaker 1: Throw the bow on your back and kind of move
Speaker 1: and then that where you kind of like set the
Speaker 1: bow forward, squirm up and then grab the bow, set
Speaker 1: it up, squirm up. Um. But I would say, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean there's like I've got uh, well, one time
Speaker 1: I was just out there and I was like, man,
Speaker 1: my knees were killing me. So I just got some
Speaker 1: like uh, cow patties and like strapped it to my knees.
Speaker 1: You know. It's like so I thought, yeah, probably knee
Speaker 1: pads at work, but you know, sometimes you're like it's hot,
Speaker 1: you don't even think about it. I've I've had them
Speaker 1: in my kit for years and actually never really used
Speaker 1: them because I'm always like, I don't know, it just
Speaker 1: escapes me or something. But I feel like they would
Speaker 1: be pretty good, like knee pads, elbow pads. But then
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, being quiet and trying to do it,
Speaker 1: I don't know how well it works. So something like
Speaker 1: even just even just an extra piece of material or
Speaker 1: something you can put over your knees or the side
Speaker 1: that you're using. I've done that a lot, just taking
Speaker 1: out like extra shirt or whatever, wrap it up, tie
Speaker 1: it around, and kind of going That's kind of just
Speaker 1: the way I've always done it. Yeah, usually go to
Speaker 1: gear pack if you're on a two to four day yourself. Yep, Um,
Speaker 1: so my go to I I like, Um, generally I
Speaker 1: always kind of have my pack is like the same
Speaker 1: pack that I would use on a five day, seven
Speaker 1: day backcountry trip is the same pack that I'm hunting
Speaker 1: on day hunts most of the time. Every once in
Speaker 1: a while, if it's like I'll you know, like I know,
Speaker 1: I gotta be running around a lot. Um and I'm
Speaker 1: pretty close. I'll use a lighter pack. But just because
Speaker 1: when I get in somewhere, I don't want to have
Speaker 1: to go back to the truck to get a pack
Speaker 1: frame I want I want that first trip back to
Speaker 1: have as much meat as that second trip is going
Speaker 1: to be. UM. So I always kind of have my
Speaker 1: big kit on with me. UM. Just I use a
Speaker 1: stone glacier bag right now, and then I just sent
Speaker 1: it down, you know, make it smaller in there. I
Speaker 1: have obviously pretty much just the basics a knife, game bags. UM.
Speaker 1: Always have that kit for processing, so some kind of
Speaker 1: I generally have some kind of pecord or something if
Speaker 1: I need to tie something up. UM. I always have
Speaker 1: a trash bag just for after the fact, like putting
Speaker 1: the meat in as a liner from my backpack. UM.
Speaker 1: Then outside of that, I got my optics, which should
Speaker 1: be a spotting scope tripod. UM obviously my binoes on
Speaker 1: me and then um whatever food or whatever I'm taking
Speaker 1: any kind of overnight so if i'm if I'm overnight,
Speaker 1: and I'll have my sleeping bag, sleeping pad um, and
Speaker 1: then shelter system whatever it is, whether it's a tarp
Speaker 1: or a tarp tent or something like that. And then UM,
Speaker 1: I do keep a small first aid kit in there,
Speaker 1: UM with kind of like the essentials. It's just one
Speaker 1: that rows with me. I kind of use it for everything. UM.
Speaker 1: And in that first aid kit, I always have a
Speaker 1: little bit of extra, not a lot, but I've I
Speaker 1: always keep a fire starter in there and UM and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, like a spare lighter. And then I do
Speaker 1: now in my in my day packs, I keep a
Speaker 1: UM like a sterry pen because I like, I you know,
Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time hunting in Alaska, hunting
Speaker 1: in New Zealand, where it's like you walk, you stop,
Speaker 1: you drink, you don't feel, you don't have to think
Speaker 1: about filtering, you don't have to do anything. And so
Speaker 1: I'm just so used to that. Like I don't like
Speaker 1: carrying weight of water if I can help it. Now,
Speaker 1: desert hunts are completely different. But if I don't have
Speaker 1: to carry twenty pound the water, like I'll drink, I'll
Speaker 1: dump my bottle and I'll just keep going and then
Speaker 1: I'll find the next water source and drink out of it.
Speaker 1: So I started carrying that sterry pin um because for
Speaker 1: the longest time, actually didn't do anything to my water,
Speaker 1: and I never got well. I got jaredy at once.
Speaker 1: So after that, I was like, okay, I'm curious ter
Speaker 1: even but it was stupid. I drank out of like
Speaker 1: this brown elk wolo water my brothers like dude, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm so thirsty, and it tasted disgusting,
Speaker 1: like I knew. I just knew. I was like this
Speaker 1: is this is such a bad idea. But I was like,
Speaker 1: oh no, they call me iron gut. You know, it's fine,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't matter how strong your stomach is. You
Speaker 1: can't avoid it. Um and yeah, and luckily I did
Speaker 1: have a Z pack with me. I don't know if
Speaker 1: that I started taking it. I got better really fast.
Speaker 1: So um after the bad water incident and took a
Speaker 1: couple of days for the water to kick You know,
Speaker 1: when I as soon as I got sick, though I
Speaker 1: knew what it was. It wasn't like because I was
Speaker 1: eating mountain house. It wasn't like I got food poison
Speaker 1: and you know it, I was like, really sick, dude. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that about and that's pretty much I think, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: then you know, like obviously water bottle um. I don't
Speaker 1: do the bladders personally. Um, but that's probably I think
Speaker 1: I've just had really horrible things go wrong with the
Speaker 1: water bladders. UM. So I always have like a couple
Speaker 1: of big bottles UM with me and then maybe something
Speaker 1: to um to like get out of a small water source,
Speaker 1: you know, like a smaller bottle or a collapsible bottle
Speaker 1: or something like that if I need to, and then um, yeah,
Speaker 1: food I always take, like the willerness athlete drink mixed
Speaker 1: things just because, um, I don't know, man, I've just
Speaker 1: you're out there, you're grinding, your sweating, and if you
Speaker 1: don't have the right food, the right fuel. That's a
Speaker 1: huge portion of it is like just being mentally focused,
Speaker 1: staying in there, being able to just keep going day
Speaker 1: after day. So like you know, I know a lot
Speaker 1: of people cut weight on certain things. I don't really
Speaker 1: cut weight on like the stuff that's gonna feel me.
Speaker 1: So I'm like I throw in like things that I
Speaker 1: like to eat and things that I know I'll eat
Speaker 1: and keep that energy up and if it like gets heavy,
Speaker 1: I'll just eat it, you know. So it's like it's
Speaker 1: all good. Yeah, I got one for you. I mean,
Speaker 1: so I got three daughters and my wife and do
Speaker 1: you any kids tricks and kind of effectively you know
Speaker 1: of her POUNDINGE on your bow. Um, but uh, you
Speaker 1: know she didn't push up, set up workouts. I didn't know,
Speaker 1: just just shooting your bow more consistently, you know, because
Speaker 1: it feels like it's a different muscle that you're using
Speaker 1: to be able to get that poundage up to where
Speaker 1: they can be at the all time. And yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a great question because I know, I mean my wife
Speaker 1: just got into bow hunting and it was a it
Speaker 1: was kind of a that was like our biggest concern
Speaker 1: and her biggest concern. Um. So we started we had
Speaker 1: she had a bow, so she has like a hunting bow,
Speaker 1: but at the time she couldn't really get up to
Speaker 1: the poundage to shoot. So I got like, um, I
Speaker 1: guess it would be like a Genesis bow, you know,
Speaker 1: where as like it's completely adjustable, and we used that
Speaker 1: to kind of build her strength, um where it was like, okay,
Speaker 1: we could start gradually going. And I think a lot
Speaker 1: of it is the petition of um of just being
Speaker 1: able to build those same muscles. One thing that I
Speaker 1: found works really well for kind of like building like
Speaker 1: for because I think it's not only just the pulling back,
Speaker 1: but I think that you're you're you're pushing in your
Speaker 1: aiming arm has a lot to do with it because
Speaker 1: you get it back and it's like, okay, I got
Speaker 1: it back, but now I'm tired and I'm not steady.
Speaker 1: So one thing is like get an exercise ball, put
Speaker 1: it up on the wall, and then hold it up
Speaker 1: there with your hand and you kind of do like
Speaker 1: figure eights in different motions like this. You'll be surprised
Speaker 1: how fast that arm gets tired. It's like a really
Speaker 1: like you know, just moving like you do the whole
Speaker 1: alphabet whatever, and that movement builds a lot of that
Speaker 1: same I don't even I'm not an exercise physiologist by
Speaker 1: any stretch of the imagination, but I do understand like
Speaker 1: bow hunting and that uses those same things. And so
Speaker 1: that was a really good way to help build that
Speaker 1: strength of Okay, I can pull it back, but now
Speaker 1: I can hold it steady and don't have to worry
Speaker 1: about you know, like I burnt it. She burned, you know,
Speaker 1: like her burning it all out on that drawback. It's
Speaker 1: not just the draw it's a lot there's so much
Speaker 1: more than just being able to draw the bow back. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you got to somehow work into the fact,
Speaker 1: like now there's an elk thirty yards away and panics
Speaker 1: sets in. But um, yeah, I think that that's like
Speaker 1: a that's a good way to do it. And then
Speaker 1: anything where you just building that same that same motion.
Speaker 1: Um really, I mean there are other things you could do,
Speaker 1: other types of equipment you could do, but it really
Speaker 1: is that just repetition by doing that works really well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you you do. You enjoy hunting with more with your
Speaker 1: friends and fellow hutters or by yourself, and you probably
Speaker 1: do some of both. Do you have a preference with
Speaker 1: this is a good question. I mean I do so.
Speaker 1: I really love when I get the chance to hunt alone.
Speaker 1: I mean I do love solo. We did the Solo Hunters.
Speaker 1: I like, I actually love hunting alone, but I also
Speaker 1: really like hunting with people. Um. I feel like as
Speaker 1: a guide, I get it's like I get to hunt
Speaker 1: with people all the time. So when it's my turn
Speaker 1: to hunt, I'm like, it's sweet to go out by myself.
Speaker 1: I was actually talking with Chris Denam about this, uh
Speaker 1: a little earlier today. Is just this there's like this
Speaker 1: instantaneous decision making when it comes to hunting alone. Um,
Speaker 1: and I think that it's super like it's I'm just
Speaker 1: more effective. You're just more effective that way when you
Speaker 1: aren't bouncing ideas off of someone and you're kind of
Speaker 1: building your own hunting skills in a way that's like
Speaker 1: it's on you. Um. So it's not like, you know,
Speaker 1: you could go out and hunt with a guide or
Speaker 1: your buddy or whatever, and if they're kind of leading
Speaker 1: the whole charge you're doing, but you aren't. You might
Speaker 1: be picking up things, but you aren't necessarily learning in
Speaker 1: the same way that you learn when you when it's
Speaker 1: all on you, when you made that decision, when you've
Speaker 1: got no one to else to bounce it off of,
Speaker 1: and you kind of you don't have to worry about, um,
Speaker 1: you know, my buddy sitting back there through the spotting scope,
Speaker 1: baking in the sun. I better hurry up on the stock.
Speaker 1: Like me, I'm like a very conscientious hunter. When I'm hunting.
Speaker 1: I don't like to like I always always worry about
Speaker 1: the other people with me, you know, And when I'm
Speaker 1: by myself, it's like, no, I'll be as patient as
Speaker 1: I need to because it's just me. It doesn't really
Speaker 1: matter or all or like there's some times where it's
Speaker 1: like I gotta go real slow and I'm not worried
Speaker 1: about getting anywhere real fast. And then it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I gotta go and I gotta run and I'm not
Speaker 1: worried about talking and waiting, And there's so many stages
Speaker 1: that just like get condensed into you're just doing it
Speaker 1: and you're gonna learn a lot more, You're gonna be
Speaker 1: a more effective hunter. Um, but there's this really fun
Speaker 1: thing about hunting with people. So like I love hunting
Speaker 1: with my dad, I love hunting with my brother, I
Speaker 1: love hunting with I. I really enjoy hunting with clients
Speaker 1: and taking people out. Like there's a really cool experience
Speaker 1: in that too. So it is a mix, Like it's
Speaker 1: not you know, for me, hunting is not just one thing.
Speaker 1: It's not just doing it this way or there's so
Speaker 1: many just different facets that I love about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: came in light what is your favorite animal my favorite
Speaker 1: animal to hunt? I Mean I was like, that's a
Speaker 1: that's such a loaded question that depends on the day.
Speaker 1: But um, I I think meal there is like pretty
Speaker 1: high up there. Uh. People are like always like Elk, Elk, elk,
Speaker 1: and I love hunting elk, Like I am an Elk guy.
Speaker 1: That's what I do for a link. But I love
Speaker 1: calling out like I almost if someone was like, you
Speaker 1: get a pick, you know, a hunt that you get
Speaker 1: to do, and I'd be like early season archery mule
Speaker 1: here for me. But that doesn't mean that I get
Speaker 1: to give up calling elk for other people because I
Speaker 1: love that interaction of calling Elk. I love tricking Elk.
Speaker 1: I love like I'm I don't know. There's those people
Speaker 1: that fly fishing is like I only fish with dry flies.
Speaker 1: When I'm like elk hunting, I only bugle like I
Speaker 1: only want to fight a bowl like I just like
Speaker 1: I love screaming back at elk. It's like the coolest
Speaker 1: feeling in the world. Um So I really love that.
Speaker 1: But I also really like the child. I think that
Speaker 1: I personally think that one of the hardest animals to hunt.
Speaker 1: Maybe and I don't know, it's just like early season
Speaker 1: mature mule, dear with a bow. I think it is
Speaker 1: one of the most difficult and challenging and like rewarding
Speaker 1: hunts because you get everything of those. And now I
Speaker 1: say that because like I really love sheep hunting, but
Speaker 1: you don't get the tags often enough. You know. It's
Speaker 1: like I'm obsessed with sheep hunting, but it's more about
Speaker 1: the places. I love those mountain hunts and I think
Speaker 1: deers like mule there's something where you can get that
Speaker 1: alpine sheep type hunt every year, um, especially when it
Speaker 1: comes like early season bow hunting, Like you get that
Speaker 1: experience and it's something you can do all the time.
Speaker 1: And then just big meal there. I like the way
Speaker 1: that they look. They're cool. But I mean, now if
Speaker 1: I was just to pick something like it doesn't matter,
Speaker 1: it's unlimited whatever, I'd be like, yeah, sheep hunting cool, Yeah,
Speaker 1: go straight to the top. So but I like, you know,
Speaker 1: and then tar hunting in New Zealand is really really,
Speaker 1: really incredible. I love hunting tar um and kind of
Speaker 1: like any kind of mountain hunt really, so it's more
Speaker 1: of a place than a thing. Often those filling getting
Speaker 1: the way of taking a shot like acent of the time. No,
Speaker 1: I mean the it's funny because um really the self
Speaker 1: filming over the years, like it's it's like a challenge
Speaker 1: that I I've I've really enjoyed, and I think it
Speaker 1: has made me a lot better hunter because a lot
Speaker 1: of the times I gotta stock the same thing twice.
Speaker 1: So I was like, okay, the first stock I got in,
Speaker 1: Now I gotta go back out grabbing my bow. Like Actually,
Speaker 1: the way that I generally do is I stock in
Speaker 1: with the camera, set the camera up, crawl back because
Speaker 1: if I bring my bow up there, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to get the camera. You know. It's like I learned
Speaker 1: that I have to do it a certain way. Um.
Speaker 1: So I I stalk in, you know, leave the camera,
Speaker 1: crawl back out, grab the book. Is it's really hard
Speaker 1: to be quiet with two really big kungers and things.
Speaker 1: Crawl back, get the bow, sneak back in. Um So
Speaker 1: you know, like by doing that, I've got a lot
Speaker 1: of experience, like stockings, like a lot of I've I've
Speaker 1: just become a better hunter, I think. Um And over
Speaker 1: the years I've gotten you know, I've gotten better at
Speaker 1: it and learned the things that messed me up. So
Speaker 1: I would say not as often anymore, but still, if
Speaker 1: something's gonna mess it up, it's always that, it seems like,
Speaker 1: because when I'm hunting by myself. I'm like, dang, I'm
Speaker 1: pretty efficient, you know. Now. It's like it's like it's
Speaker 1: like it's like I'm dragging a car around the mountains
Speaker 1: and then um, all of a sudden, I just got
Speaker 1: unchained and I can just run around do whatever I want.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, this is a lot of sneakier. Um.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I would say most of the time it does.
Speaker 1: If something messes it up, it is probably the camera.
Speaker 1: And there there are those times where I was like, man,
Speaker 1: I look back. I was like, the other day I
Speaker 1: was going through some footage and I could have killed
Speaker 1: this probably would have been my best one of my
Speaker 1: best meals here with a bow, and I just said
Speaker 1: not to shoot it because I couldn't get it in
Speaker 1: the camera. Like I just didn't have that and I
Speaker 1: and I passed it up. Man, I was like, should
Speaker 1: I have shot that? Should have not? But I was,
Speaker 1: you know me personally, I was like, it's not about that,
Speaker 1: It's about you know me. I was like, I'm actually
Speaker 1: pretty proud of the fact that I stuck to something
Speaker 1: that I was trying to do. Because if I if
Speaker 1: I said, oh, if there's a big deer or there's
Speaker 1: a certain opportunity, then I'll take that opportunity, I'll hit
Speaker 1: that easy button. Then every time I would do that,
Speaker 1: and so I kind of had, like in my brain
Speaker 1: turned the switch on where it's like I'm either doing
Speaker 1: it or not. And and by doing that, I think
Speaker 1: that I've got