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Speaker 1: As a guide an hunter. I've spent thousands of days

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Speaker 1: in the field. This show is about translating my hard

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Speaker 1: won experiences into tips and tactics they'll get you closer

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Speaker 1: to your ultimate goal success in the field. I'm Remy Warren.

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Speaker 1: This is Cutting the Distance. Thank you guys so much

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Speaker 1: for coming. I'm pretty excited because this is uh. If

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Speaker 1: you listen to Cutting the Distance podcast, this will be

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Speaker 1: the first one where I've actually had other people on

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Speaker 1: it besides myself just talking. So thank you guys. This

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Speaker 1: is like a first for me and I'm pretty excited

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Speaker 1: about that. Um So, for those listening to the Cutting

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Speaker 1: the Distance right now, we're at the uh, we're at

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Speaker 1: the Pope and Young Club convention in Reno, Nevada. Is

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Speaker 1: the sixtie anniversary this year, and there's some incredible animals,

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Speaker 1: a lot of the one the exhibit thing that I've

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Speaker 1: been looking at, the most of the older oh man,

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Speaker 1: just some nice meal, there's some good elk and uh. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's pretty cool to get so many bow hunters here together.

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Speaker 1: Um So, I'm gonna open it up and I just

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Speaker 1: want to do kind of like any kind of questions

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Speaker 1: and answers, any questions you have about anything. I mean,

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Speaker 1: my specialty is bow hunting, Western big game hunting, public

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Speaker 1: land hunting. But I mean, if you've got a question,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure I can find an answer for you. I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to tell you it's a right answer, but

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Speaker 1: I think most of them are pretty correct. So I

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Speaker 1: want to open it up. Who let's maybe start with

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Speaker 1: somebody that came the furthest. What's who's come from? Where

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Speaker 1: is the furthest that somebody's coming from atlant that's pretty far.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to my hometown of Reno, Nevada. Except we're right now.

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Speaker 1: I said this the other night. We're in Sparks. So

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Speaker 1: if this is like, if you're having a bad experience,

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Speaker 1: blames Sparks, not Reno. Um, you gotta if you have

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Speaker 1: a question or anything. If you don't, don't feel the

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Speaker 1: pressure to open it up for us. But uh, just

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Speaker 1: curious where some other people might be coming, Yeah, or

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Speaker 1: your experience. Which wastern state is the most friendly to

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Speaker 1: non residents? Which western state is the most friendly to

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Speaker 1: nonresidents the standpoint of sharing their tags, from the standpoint

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Speaker 1: of tag availability or specific Yeah, I mean that's a

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Speaker 1: really good question. I think, Uh, It just depends on

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Speaker 1: like my home state here in Nevada, I think is

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Speaker 1: really good because they have dedicated nonresident tags, so whereas

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Speaker 1: some other states, you're in a pool, but you can

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Speaker 1: only draw a certain percentage where it's like, hey, there's

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Speaker 1: because there's a sheep tag that you know is going

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Speaker 1: to go to a nonresident. Where many states you might

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Speaker 1: apply and say I'm applying in a nonresident pool, they

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Speaker 1: can draw up to ten percent. You're in the same

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Speaker 1: dislike that approach. Now when it comes to maybe planning

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Speaker 1: I would say that's really you know, amicable to nonresidents.

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Speaker 1: So UM for ELK. When it comes to ELK, you

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Speaker 1: know you've got Colorado which has probably the most over

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Speaker 1: mean I hate to just put a certain state on blast,

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Speaker 1: but as a nonresident to California, there's actually some really

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Speaker 1: It gets often overlooked. There's a lot of hunters, but

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Speaker 1: like say your name maybe if you want where you're from.

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Speaker 1: If you're incognito, nobody knows you're here, then you just

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Speaker 1: don't say, make up a name. John Doe's f j

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Speaker 1: now it's completely different too because there's quite a few

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Speaker 1: fortunate that I was able to take such a good

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Speaker 1: or this hunt. I remember, there's quite a few, and

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00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:11,959
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I missed that animal or this

426
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,480
Speaker 1: this went wrong. And I found that there's actually like

427
00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,679
Speaker 1: one position that I was really bad at, and it

428
00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,600
Speaker 1: was shooting downhill like while crowd, like in a semi

429
00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,440
Speaker 1: crouch squat position, because your muscles are all going real weird.

430
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,359
Speaker 1: But that's like the most natural, Like you sneak up

431
00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,159
Speaker 1: from above something, I mean, every like the best stocks

432
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,520
Speaker 1: are sneaking in from above and then you draw back

433
00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,320
Speaker 1: out of sight and then you rise up. Well, as

434
00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,640
Speaker 1: you're rising up, I don't want to be full fledged

435
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,200
Speaker 1: skylined let him see me. So I'm always kind of

436
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:42,119
Speaker 1: like just barely over the rise, half squatting, drawn back,

437
00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 1: and I tend to miss those shots, and so those

438
00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,400
Speaker 1: are like okay, then I start. That's like the majority

439
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,080
Speaker 1: of the way I practice now is those ways that

440
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,639
Speaker 1: like those really awkward, uncomfortable things that I encounter in

441
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,680
Speaker 1: the field as opposed to just flat ground shooting, um

442
00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,119
Speaker 1: or shooting at a specific thing. I like to like

443
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:02,160
Speaker 1: build in hunting practice with that archery practice, and then um,

444
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 1: you know, out on the road whatever, if I'm out

445
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,399
Speaker 1: like even during guiding season or whatever, or in camp,

446
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,359
Speaker 1: I take those rubber blunt tips and I just like

447
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,119
Speaker 1: to rove, like shoot pine guns, shoot things like the

448
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,239
Speaker 1: things that I've learned about the way the practice as

449
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 1: a kid with my recurve. I'll do that with my

450
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 1: compound bow in hunting camp or in a back country setting, Like, hey,

451
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 1: I don't want the first time that like you know,

452
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 1: you just knock the dust off. It's like, yeah, I'll

453
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 1: be out there midday seeing like a rock across the canyon,

454
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,199
Speaker 1: just send it, you know, it's just like, yeah, it

455
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,359
Speaker 1: feels good to get that shot in in the field

456
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,399
Speaker 1: where you're at and know that like, hey, if that

457
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 1: was a deer there in the middle of the day, cool,

458
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,199
Speaker 1: I could have made that shot. So kind of like

459
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 1: constantly constantly practicing in those situations. Do you practice with

460
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 1: the tips that you hunt with? Yeah, so, I mean

461
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,880
Speaker 1: a lot of it. It depends on the how well

462
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 1: tuned my bow is. You know, I've had bows in

463
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 1: the past. It's like, once I get the broadheads on,

464
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 1: I can't get the field tips to fly right, and

465
00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 1: then I've got most of my bows though, I get

466
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 1: to tune where it's like it's it's pretty negligible the

467
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,160
Speaker 1: difference between my broadhead and my field tip. Um. So.

468
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 1: But most of the time, yeah, I always make sure

469
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 1: that I shoot with those broadheads, and I like to

470
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 1: it tune to my broadheads. Um I use fixed blades

471
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 1: a lot, just because some of the places that I hunt,

472
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 1: you can't even use mechanicals, and I just don't like

473
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just personal preference, Like a lot of

474
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,119
Speaker 1: I like to hunt all kinds of different terrain and

475
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 1: I don't want grass or something, and I like to

476
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,880
Speaker 1: be able to shoot through whatever I'm aiming at, whether

477
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,479
Speaker 1: it be grass or an elk or whatever. I just

478
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 1: always want there to be on the other side of

479
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 1: whatever I'm shooting at. Um, So that's yeah, I shoot

480
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:42,439
Speaker 1: with the products. Are there any bucket list hunts that

481
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,159
Speaker 1: you haven't completely hand that are still out there that

482
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 1: a bucket list hunt? That's a good question. I mean there, Yeah,

483
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 1: they're there, definitely are there's I think for me, there's

484
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 1: like some adventure type stuff, some sheep and some like

485
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 1: weird places. There's a lot of a lot of the

486
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,040
Speaker 1: hunts that I've always wanted to do. I've somehow I

487
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 1: managed to go on them and which is pretty awesome. Um,

488
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 1: but I a blue sheep, and Nepal is like something

489
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 1: that I think would be pretty cool just to be

490
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 1: in like a really high altitude and kind of see

491
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 1: that country and the way that the people are there

492
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 1: and just kind of like a crazy adventure. And then

493
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 1: some even just some like just more of these places

494
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: like uh, mid Asia. There's some places I still haven't

495
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: explored yet that I'd like to ibex and stuff there,

496
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 1: and um and some places in like Russia that I

497
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 1: think are kind of remote and untouched, just some just

498
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,679
Speaker 1: some places that you go and you're like, it's more

499
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 1: about that place, so it could be. I mean, I'd

500
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,880
Speaker 1: probably just one hunted jack rabbit there if I could,

501
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 1: you know, just like just to go on that and

502
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,919
Speaker 1: you kind of experience that place and see just like

503
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 1: the culture around it. I really love going to like

504
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: far flung places and just seeing like the coolest thing

505
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,479
Speaker 1: to me is like being in a place that's so

506
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: different than where we're at and then meeting up with

507
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 1: somebody that hunts or whatever and just realizing like we

508
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,640
Speaker 1: have the same exact passion. We've got like the same drive,

509
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 1: we understand the same thing, we do things a smilar way.

510
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 1: Like it's just a really cool I don't know, it's

511
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 1: like this, I mean, you can talk about it like

512
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 1: this is a really cool connection with hunters. It's like

513
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 1: we all kind of do the same thing and we

514
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,239
Speaker 1: don't even know that. And like one thing that I

515
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 1: thought was cool is like even starting guiding and then

516
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: going international and guiding, and there's certain things that I

517
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: picked up from certain people, and then there's things that

518
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 1: I found I just had nobody teach me how to

519
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 1: quarter an animal, but I just found the most effective

520
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 1: way to do it for me. And then I go

521
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 1: to like sent mid Asia and there's people that live

522
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 1: off the land there and they quarter the animal the

523
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: exact way that I do, you know, with a small

524
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,719
Speaker 1: knife and never have to break a bone or use

525
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 1: a saw because they just don't have those tools. And

526
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,719
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, they could they could essentially

527
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 1: do the thing with a rock, and it's like, well,

528
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: they found the most efficient way to do it, and

529
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,880
Speaker 1: somehow on my own I found the most efficient way

530
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: to do it. And it's like a really cool like

531
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,880
Speaker 1: aha moment where you're like, whoa, this is a really

532
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 1: cool experience that we kind of do the same thing

533
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 1: and don't even know. It's like in our DNA or

534
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 1: something about it is like very very familiar yere um,

535
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: whether you know the language or not, Like you can

536
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 1: you know, connect over that fire and you're like you've

537
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 1: got you, Like I get you. I was like one

538
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 1: of my favorite one of my favorite things is like

539
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: last year I was in Kurgus or not last year.

540
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: We just skippy year, will just pretend last year was

541
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 1: like nineteen whatever. Um it was in Kyrgyzstan and driving

542
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 1: out there there's like these two guys and I was like,

543
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 1: this is like three days in a car kind of thing.

544
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: And we're like driving through this mountain pass and they

545
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 1: stopped in the little village and you got like this

546
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 1: breakdown old shotgun and we're driving up this mountain pass

547
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: road and these chucker like fly across the road and

548
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: his eyes got big and he slams on the brakes

549
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 1: and gets out. He's like loading up that shotgun, like

550
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: sneaking down the road check or flush and he shoots

551
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 1: these chucker and I'm like that dude straight out of Nevada.

552
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,640
Speaker 1: Like I was like, I know you, bro, Like we

553
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 1: are the same person, you know. I was like this guy,

554
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: he was just all about his chucker hunting, and I

555
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 1: was like I've been there, Like I know what it's

556
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: like to drive Dusty Rhodes forever and then you see

557
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 1: a checker and you're like, hell yeah, run up. I

558
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: mean he was running up the mountain like I was like,

559
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: I've been there. So it's just, uh, I don't know

560
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 1: this this fun story to though. Yeah. Yeah. Other than

561
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 1: a passport, some of the basics what are like firky

562
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,919
Speaker 1: items or otherwise for those international hunts that are like

563
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 1: you gotta hea it um for any kind of like

564
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: international hunt. That's a good question. Um. One thing I

565
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: think is just like a good a good strategy of

566
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,439
Speaker 1: how you're gonna get like logistically planning ahead, like how

567
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: you're gonna get things back. So um, I found like

568
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 1: I use the Yeti panga bags a lot um because

569
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: I know it's like water. It's like it's a weird

570
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: thing to think, like, oh, what's a really important thing,

571
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: And just like having a durable waterproof bag is pretty

572
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: important because it's like your stuff is gonna be everywhere.

573
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to get like maybe you know, hide

574
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: or meat back or whatever. So something that you can

575
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,919
Speaker 1: like freeze things in, put him in, zip it up.

576
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 1: You know it's safe, Like nothing is gonna leak out,

577
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 1: you're gonna get some airport violation whatever. Um. You know,

578
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 1: like having that logistical plan of how to get things back.

579
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 1: And then the other thing is definitely having a you

580
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: like having that plan and then knowing that none of

581
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: that plan is gonna work out like whatever you do,

582
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 1: just knowing that like, hey, things are gonna go wrong,

583
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: like things are gonna get lost. I mean I've been

584
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: on uh some trips where it's like, you know, nothing

585
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 1: showed up for however many days and like, hey, it

586
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: didn't matter when you just go out, I'll just go hiker,

587
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: like we'll do whatever. Um, you know, like having that

588
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: mentality of like things are gonna go wrong probably and

589
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: there's nothing you can do about it. Just have a

590
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 1: good time. UM. I would say, you know, as far

591
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: as like specific gear items, I mean, it's pretty much

592
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: just my standard main hunting stuff. One thing that I

593
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: would do highly suggest, um, if you're traveling and you're

594
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: gonna like I've done a lot of like international d

595
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 1: I Y type stuff, and so I think that some

596
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: of the things that I've learned maybe don't apply to everyone,

597
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: but I think they are good tips. First thing if

598
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: your phone getting unlocked phone, um. And then the first

599
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: thing I do when I get in the airport is

600
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 1: I take my SIM card out and I put in

601
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: the SIM card from there, Because what happens if you

602
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 1: like if you run into someone or whatever, even if

603
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 1: you're guided, like how are you going to contact? Like

604
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 1: they can't call an international number? Put a put a

605
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: local SIM card in your phone, and then you can

606
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 1: order a pizza somebody needs to or you can do

607
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: whatever you need. You know, you can actually call a hotel,

608
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 1: you can make like if something gets lost, your luggage

609
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: gets lost, you don't have to call a fifteen party

610
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: over in call center from an internet you know what

611
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: I mean. Just called that airport directly and that makes

612
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: a big difference. Um. That's like the probably the single

613
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: best tip I could ever give you is just like

614
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: as soon as you get there, get a different simcard

615
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: and then you can make calls and connect with people

616
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: and things will happen and you aren't like reliant on

617
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,959
Speaker 1: I hate that feeling of like, oh I need somebody

618
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: to do something for me. You can just kind of

619
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: like get it done yourself. Um. So that's another little

620
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: travel tip. What about gloves or gear for the crawling

621
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: for antelope putting? Oh yeah, um, I've I think kneepads

622
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: are a great idea. I've just never had them with me.

623
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, like, um, and yeah, gloves definitely definitely

624
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: h one thing that I do. Like, Um, I've got

625
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: some gloves that almost have that like uh like plastic

626
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: e knuckle guard like Moto gloves. Um, because you gotta

627
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: think about your like crawling with your bow and other things.

628
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: I also have a stabilizerz are on my bow that

629
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: I kind of use as like a crawling crutch. Um,

630
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: So I'll use that sometimes. But having some kind of

631
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: like protection on your knuckles and then any kind of

632
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: like if you were able to uh put something over

633
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,239
Speaker 1: your knees that always helps. UM. I generally do kind

634
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: of like this modified like I kind of depending on

635
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: where the animal is and whatever, I kind of do

636
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: different crawls. Did not like burn out a certain burn

637
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: out a certain way. Like a modified crab crawl is

638
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: always a little bit easier like on your back, on

639
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: your butt scooting than kind of crawling than army crawling.

640
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: Throw the bow on your back and kind of move

641
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: and then that where you kind of like set the

642
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: bow forward, squirm up and then grab the bow, set

643
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: it up, squirm up. Um. But I would say, yeah,

644
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: I mean there's like I've got uh, well, one time

645
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: I was just out there and I was like, man,

646
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: my knees were killing me. So I just got some

647
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: like uh, cow patties and like strapped it to my knees.

648
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: You know. It's like so I thought, yeah, probably knee

649
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: pads at work, but you know, sometimes you're like it's hot,

650
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: you don't even think about it. I've I've had them

651
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: in my kit for years and actually never really used

652
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: them because I'm always like, I don't know, it just

653
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: escapes me or something. But I feel like they would

654
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,719
Speaker 1: be pretty good, like knee pads, elbow pads. But then

655
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,479
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, being quiet and trying to do it,

656
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: I don't know how well it works. So something like

657
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: even just even just an extra piece of material or

658
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: something you can put over your knees or the side

659
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: that you're using. I've done that a lot, just taking

660
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: out like extra shirt or whatever, wrap it up, tie

661
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: it around, and kind of going That's kind of just

662
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: the way I've always done it. Yeah, usually go to

663
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: gear pack if you're on a two to four day yourself. Yep, Um,

664
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: so my go to I I like, Um, generally I

665
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: always kind of have my pack is like the same

666
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: pack that I would use on a five day, seven

667
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: day backcountry trip is the same pack that I'm hunting

668
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: on day hunts most of the time. Every once in

669
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: a while, if it's like I'll you know, like I know,

670
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: I gotta be running around a lot. Um and I'm

671
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: pretty close. I'll use a lighter pack. But just because

672
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: when I get in somewhere, I don't want to have

673
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: to go back to the truck to get a pack

674
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: frame I want I want that first trip back to

675
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: have as much meat as that second trip is going

676
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: to be. UM. So I always kind of have my

677
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: big kit on with me. UM. Just I use a

678
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: stone glacier bag right now, and then I just sent

679
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: it down, you know, make it smaller in there. I

680
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: have obviously pretty much just the basics a knife, game bags. UM.

681
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: Always have that kit for processing, so some kind of

682
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: I generally have some kind of pecord or something if

683
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: I need to tie something up. UM. I always have

684
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: a trash bag just for after the fact, like putting

685
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: the meat in as a liner from my backpack. UM.

686
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: Then outside of that, I got my optics, which should

687
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: be a spotting scope tripod. UM obviously my binoes on

688
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: me and then um whatever food or whatever I'm taking

689
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: any kind of overnight so if i'm if I'm overnight,

690
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: and I'll have my sleeping bag, sleeping pad um, and

691
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: then shelter system whatever it is, whether it's a tarp

692
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: or a tarp tent or something like that. And then UM,

693
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: I do keep a small first aid kit in there,

694
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: UM with kind of like the essentials. It's just one

695
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: that rows with me. I kind of use it for everything. UM.

696
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: And in that first aid kit, I always have a

697
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: little bit of extra, not a lot, but I've I

698
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: always keep a fire starter in there and UM and uh,

699
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: you know, like a spare lighter. And then I do

700
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: now in my in my day packs, I keep a

701
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: UM like a sterry pen because I like, I you know,

702
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time hunting in Alaska, hunting

703
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: in New Zealand, where it's like you walk, you stop,

704
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: you drink, you don't feel, you don't have to think

705
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: about filtering, you don't have to do anything. And so

706
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: I'm just so used to that. Like I don't like

707
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: carrying weight of water if I can help it. Now,

708
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: desert hunts are completely different. But if I don't have

709
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: to carry twenty pound the water, like I'll drink, I'll

710
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,239
Speaker 1: dump my bottle and I'll just keep going and then

711
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: I'll find the next water source and drink out of it.

712
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: So I started carrying that sterry pin um because for

713
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: the longest time, actually didn't do anything to my water,

714
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: and I never got well. I got jaredy at once.

715
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: So after that, I was like, okay, I'm curious ter

716
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: even but it was stupid. I drank out of like

717
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: this brown elk wolo water my brothers like dude, and

718
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm so thirsty, and it tasted disgusting,

719
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: like I knew. I just knew. I was like this

720
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: is this is such a bad idea. But I was like,

721
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: oh no, they call me iron gut. You know, it's fine,

722
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: but it doesn't matter how strong your stomach is. You

723
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: can't avoid it. Um and yeah, and luckily I did

724
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: have a Z pack with me. I don't know if

725
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: that I started taking it. I got better really fast.

726
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: So um after the bad water incident and took a

727
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: couple of days for the water to kick You know,

728
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: when I as soon as I got sick, though I

729
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: knew what it was. It wasn't like because I was

730
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: eating mountain house. It wasn't like I got food poison

731
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: and you know it, I was like, really sick, dude. Um. Yeah,

732
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: so that about and that's pretty much I think, oh yeah,

733
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: then you know, like obviously water bottle um. I don't

734
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 1: do the bladders personally. Um, but that's probably I think

735
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: I've just had really horrible things go wrong with the

736
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 1: water bladders. UM. So I always have like a couple

737
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 1: of big bottles UM with me and then maybe something

738
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:22,760
Speaker 1: to um to like get out of a small water source,

739
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,240
Speaker 1: you know, like a smaller bottle or a collapsible bottle

740
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: or something like that if I need to, and then um, yeah,

741
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 1: food I always take, like the willerness athlete drink mixed

742
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: things just because, um, I don't know, man, I've just

743
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 1: you're out there, you're grinding, your sweating, and if you

744
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: don't have the right food, the right fuel. That's a

745
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 1: huge portion of it is like just being mentally focused,

746
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 1: staying in there, being able to just keep going day

747
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: after day. So like you know, I know a lot

748
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 1: of people cut weight on certain things. I don't really

749
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: cut weight on like the stuff that's gonna feel me.

750
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: So I'm like I throw in like things that I

751
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: like to eat and things that I know I'll eat

752
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: and keep that energy up and if it like gets heavy,

753
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: I'll just eat it, you know. So it's like it's

754
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: all good. Yeah, I got one for you. I mean,

755
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: so I got three daughters and my wife and do

756
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: you any kids tricks and kind of effectively you know

757
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: of her POUNDINGE on your bow. Um, but uh, you

758
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: know she didn't push up, set up workouts. I didn't know,

759
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: just just shooting your bow more consistently, you know, because

760
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: it feels like it's a different muscle that you're using

761
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 1: to be able to get that poundage up to where

762
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 1: they can be at the all time. And yeah, that's

763
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: a great question because I know, I mean my wife

764
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: just got into bow hunting and it was a it

765
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: was kind of a that was like our biggest concern

766
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 1: and her biggest concern. Um. So we started we had

767
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: she had a bow, so she has like a hunting bow,

768
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: but at the time she couldn't really get up to

769
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: the poundage to shoot. So I got like, um, I

770
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: guess it would be like a Genesis bow, you know,

771
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: where as like it's completely adjustable, and we used that

772
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 1: to kind of build her strength, um where it was like, okay,

773
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 1: we could start gradually going. And I think a lot

774
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 1: of it is the petition of um of just being

775
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: able to build those same muscles. One thing that I

776
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: found works really well for kind of like building like

777
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,959
Speaker 1: for because I think it's not only just the pulling back,

778
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: but I think that you're you're you're pushing in your

779
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: aiming arm has a lot to do with it because

780
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: you get it back and it's like, okay, I got

781
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 1: it back, but now I'm tired and I'm not steady.

782
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: So one thing is like get an exercise ball, put

783
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: it up on the wall, and then hold it up

784
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: there with your hand and you kind of do like

785
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: figure eights in different motions like this. You'll be surprised

786
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: how fast that arm gets tired. It's like a really

787
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: like you know, just moving like you do the whole

788
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: alphabet whatever, and that movement builds a lot of that

789
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: same I don't even I'm not an exercise physiologist by

790
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: any stretch of the imagination, but I do understand like

791
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: bow hunting and that uses those same things. And so

792
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: that was a really good way to help build that

793
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: strength of Okay, I can pull it back, but now

794
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: I can hold it steady and don't have to worry

795
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: about you know, like I burnt it. She burned, you know,

796
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: like her burning it all out on that drawback. It's

797
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: not just the draw it's a lot there's so much

798
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 1: more than just being able to draw the bow back. Yeah. Yeah,

799
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: and then you got to somehow work into the fact,

800
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: like now there's an elk thirty yards away and panics

801
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: sets in. But um, yeah, I think that that's like

802
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: a that's a good way to do it. And then

803
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: anything where you just building that same that same motion.

804
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: Um really, I mean there are other things you could do,

805
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: other types of equipment you could do, but it really

806
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 1: is that just repetition by doing that works really well. Yeah,

807
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: you you do. You enjoy hunting with more with your

808
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: friends and fellow hutters or by yourself, and you probably

809
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: do some of both. Do you have a preference with

810
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: this is a good question. I mean I do so.

811
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,760
Speaker 1: I really love when I get the chance to hunt alone.

812
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: I mean I do love solo. We did the Solo Hunters.

813
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: I like, I actually love hunting alone, but I also

814
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: really like hunting with people. Um. I feel like as

815
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 1: a guide, I get it's like I get to hunt

816
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: with people all the time. So when it's my turn

817
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: to hunt, I'm like, it's sweet to go out by myself.

818
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: I was actually talking with Chris Denam about this, uh

819
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: a little earlier today. Is just this there's like this

820
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 1: instantaneous decision making when it comes to hunting alone. Um,

821
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: and I think that it's super like it's I'm just

822
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: more effective. You're just more effective that way when you

823
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: aren't bouncing ideas off of someone and you're kind of

824
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: building your own hunting skills in a way that's like

825
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 1: it's on you. Um. So it's not like, you know,

826
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: you could go out and hunt with a guide or

827
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: your buddy or whatever, and if they're kind of leading

828
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 1: the whole charge you're doing, but you aren't. You might

829
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: be picking up things, but you aren't necessarily learning in

830
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: the same way that you learn when you when it's

831
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: all on you, when you made that decision, when you've

832
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: got no one to else to bounce it off of,

833
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: and you kind of you don't have to worry about, um,

834
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,240
Speaker 1: you know, my buddy sitting back there through the spotting scope,

835
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: baking in the sun. I better hurry up on the stock.

836
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: Like me, I'm like a very conscientious hunter. When I'm hunting.

837
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: I don't like to like I always always worry about

838
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: the other people with me, you know, And when I'm

839
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 1: by myself, it's like, no, I'll be as patient as

840
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,439
Speaker 1: I need to because it's just me. It doesn't really

841
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: matter or all or like there's some times where it's

842
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 1: like I gotta go real slow and I'm not worried

843
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: about getting anywhere real fast. And then it's like, oh,

844
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: I gotta go and I gotta run and I'm not

845
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: worried about talking and waiting, And there's so many stages

846
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: that just like get condensed into you're just doing it

847
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: and you're gonna learn a lot more, You're gonna be

848
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,879
Speaker 1: a more effective hunter. Um, but there's this really fun

849
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: thing about hunting with people. So like I love hunting

850
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 1: with my dad, I love hunting with my brother, I

851
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,760
Speaker 1: love hunting with I. I really enjoy hunting with clients

852
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: and taking people out. Like there's a really cool experience

853
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 1: in that too. So it is a mix, Like it's

854
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: not you know, for me, hunting is not just one thing.

855
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: It's not just doing it this way or there's so

856
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: many just different facets that I love about it. Yeah,

857
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: came in light what is your favorite animal my favorite

858
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: animal to hunt? I Mean I was like, that's a

859
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: that's such a loaded question that depends on the day.

860
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 1: But um, I I think meal there is like pretty

861
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: high up there. Uh. People are like always like Elk, Elk, elk,

862
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,919
Speaker 1: and I love hunting elk, Like I am an Elk guy.

863
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 1: That's what I do for a link. But I love

864
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: calling out like I almost if someone was like, you

865
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,399
Speaker 1: get a pick, you know, a hunt that you get

866
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: to do, and I'd be like early season archery mule

867
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: here for me. But that doesn't mean that I get

868
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: to give up calling elk for other people because I

869
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: love that interaction of calling Elk. I love tricking Elk.

870
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: I love like I'm I don't know. There's those people

871
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,280
Speaker 1: that fly fishing is like I only fish with dry flies.

872
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: When I'm like elk hunting, I only bugle like I

873
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: only want to fight a bowl like I just like

874
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: I love screaming back at elk. It's like the coolest

875
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: feeling in the world. Um So I really love that.

876
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: But I also really like the child. I think that

877
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 1: I personally think that one of the hardest animals to hunt.

878
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 1: Maybe and I don't know, it's just like early season

879
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: mature mule, dear with a bow. I think it is

880
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: one of the most difficult and challenging and like rewarding

881
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: hunts because you get everything of those. And now I

882
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: say that because like I really love sheep hunting, but

883
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: you don't get the tags often enough. You know. It's

884
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,959
Speaker 1: like I'm obsessed with sheep hunting, but it's more about

885
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: the places. I love those mountain hunts and I think

886
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: deers like mule there's something where you can get that

887
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: alpine sheep type hunt every year, um, especially when it

888
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: comes like early season bow hunting, Like you get that

889
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,959
Speaker 1: experience and it's something you can do all the time.

890
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: And then just big meal there. I like the way

891
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 1: that they look. They're cool. But I mean, now if

892
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: I was just to pick something like it doesn't matter,

893
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: it's unlimited whatever, I'd be like, yeah, sheep hunting cool, Yeah,

894
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: go straight to the top. So but I like, you know,

895
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 1: and then tar hunting in New Zealand is really really,

896
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: really incredible. I love hunting tar um and kind of

897
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: like any kind of mountain hunt really, so it's more

898
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: of a place than a thing. Often those filling getting

899
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: the way of taking a shot like acent of the time. No,

900
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 1: I mean the it's funny because um really the self

901
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:46,240
Speaker 1: filming over the years, like it's it's like a challenge

902
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: that I I've I've really enjoyed, and I think it

903
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: has made me a lot better hunter because a lot

904
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: of the times I gotta stock the same thing twice.

905
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 1: So I was like, okay, the first stock I got in,

906
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: Now I gotta go back out grabbing my bow. Like Actually,

907
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: the way that I generally do is I stock in

908
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: with the camera, set the camera up, crawl back because

909
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: if I bring my bow up there, I'm not going

910
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 1: to get the camera. You know. It's like I learned

911
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: that I have to do it a certain way. Um.

912
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: So I I stalk in, you know, leave the camera,

913
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: crawl back out, grab the book. Is it's really hard

914
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: to be quiet with two really big kungers and things.

915
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: Crawl back, get the bow, sneak back in. Um So

916
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: you know, like by doing that, I've got a lot

917
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: of experience, like stockings, like a lot of I've I've

918
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 1: just become a better hunter, I think. Um And over

919
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: the years I've gotten you know, I've gotten better at

920
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: it and learned the things that messed me up. So

921
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: I would say not as often anymore, but still, if

922
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: something's gonna mess it up, it's always that, it seems like,

923
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: because when I'm hunting by myself. I'm like, dang, I'm

924
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: pretty efficient, you know. Now. It's like it's like it's

925
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 1: like it's like I'm dragging a car around the mountains

926
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 1: and then um, all of a sudden, I just got

927
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: unchained and I can just run around do whatever I want.

928
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, this is a lot of sneakier. Um.

929
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 1: So yeah, I would say most of the time it does.

930
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 1: If something messes it up, it is probably the camera.

931
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 1: And there there are those times where I was like, man,

932
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: I look back. I was like, the other day I

933
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: was going through some footage and I could have killed

934
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: this probably would have been my best one of my

935
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,919
Speaker 1: best meals here with a bow, and I just said

936
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: not to shoot it because I couldn't get it in

937
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: the camera. Like I just didn't have that and I

938
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: and I passed it up. Man, I was like, should

939
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: I have shot that? Should have not? But I was,

940
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: you know me personally, I was like, it's not about that,

941
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: It's about you know me. I was like, I'm actually

942
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: pretty proud of the fact that I stuck to something

943
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 1: that I was trying to do. Because if I if

944
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: I said, oh, if there's a big deer or there's

945
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: a certain opportunity, then I'll take that opportunity, I'll hit

946
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 1: that easy button. Then every time I would do that,

947
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 1: and so I kind of had, like in my brain

948
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: turned the switch on where it's like I'm either doing

949
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: it or not. And and by doing that, I think

950
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: that I've got