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Speaker 3: The World's of Vigeon podcast Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. Alex

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Speaker 3: called in saying she got snowed in telling you right

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Speaker 3: now it's weak. I don't care leave earlier, drives slower.

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Speaker 4: Fred l up one side down the other, like and

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Speaker 4: we were wrong?

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Speaker 3: What are you talking about? We weren't wrong, because night

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Speaker 3: before I was on the phone from the guy who

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Speaker 3: just show up to the place tomorrow. We show up

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Speaker 3: the next day, no credentials, and their excuse was, well,

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Speaker 3: we're all tired, that's what she said. Remember that too.

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Speaker 4: And I said to me, Brian me Brian and Andy

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Speaker 5: My late favorite thing is when they which one was that?

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Speaker 6: Again?

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Speaker 4: I don't think that was. I think this was in

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Speaker 4: Houston and three right right, Jacksonville.

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Speaker 6: Oh, let me tell you how bad the hotel Wasn't

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Speaker 6: the super Bowl?

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Speaker 3: Which one was that?

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Speaker 4: Like the super Bowl happens after the championships.

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Speaker 3: You went to hey, yeah, you're on the air. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: have you shoveled out yet? And like are you all right? Okay?

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome the Patriot's Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here

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Speaker 3: at Jills Stadium, and we're back on track, getting ready

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Speaker 3: for the Arizona Cardinals, who got caught looking ahead to

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Speaker 3: the Patriots last week, so they might be looking for

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Speaker 3: a little bit of redemption here. But Paul's here, Evan's here,

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Speaker 3: Deuce is here, I'm here, Matt's in the booth. We're

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Speaker 3: talking Patriots. We got some news that came out today.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about that, talk about getting ready for the Cardinals. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: maybe we'll look back at the Patriots bye week and

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Speaker 3: the rest of the NFL. I'll talk about that. I

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Speaker 3: might have to leave a little early today though, So I'm.

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Speaker 4: Not happy, well, not happy.

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Speaker 3: I've got meetings, Paul meetings.

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Speaker 4: Not happy. Yeah, Douce, you're in charge.

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Speaker 3: But first thing, first couple personnel moves. The big news

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Speaker 3: the Patriots signed a kicker to the practice squad. Oh

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Speaker 3: they did. Oh you think that doesn't trump kJ Osborne

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Speaker 4: Probably?

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Speaker 4: Name, I know, it's three names something something Romo, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: They did add a kicker to the practice squad. However,

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Speaker 3: obviously the bigger news, and it's not official yet, I

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Speaker 3: that the Patriots have waived kJ Osborne. So a lot

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Speaker 4: I don't think they invested much in him. I thought

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Speaker 4: But I don't think this is one of those certainly

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Speaker 4: But you got a couple of Caden Wallace, Cole Strange,

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Speaker 6: Right, shaved his head to a sign.

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Speaker 3: Look at him and then you know your guy Badard

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Speaker 4: No, no, he writes for himself.

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Speaker 4: Robert and Jonathan Kraft as the things that they quote

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Speaker 3: I mean, now, I think it'd be ridiculous in my

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Speaker 6: It just seems ridiculous. You knew you were hiring guy

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Speaker 3: Up to this point, it's not an effort situation. It's

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Speaker 3: field these final four games. If nothing else, it's your tape. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's your future, it's your That's exactly what Austin Hooper

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Speaker 6: They'll be changed next year and you don't know whose

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Speaker 6: So I guess we'll see what they turn in this weekend.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Cardinals, Uh well, Patriots will come in

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Speaker 4: Yeah, six and a half.

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Speaker 3: Oh, is that what it is right now? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: A free fall. Yeah, like they've lost three in a row, right,

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Speaker 4: I give the Patriots a much better shot to win

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I do too, me too. I'm I'm getting a

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Speaker 6: I just I think the X factor is how much

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Speaker 3: So if you were a guy, you know, either a

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Speaker 3: You know, we want to see who's going to be

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I think well, that's something that Jonathan Jones has touched

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Speaker 6: it yesterday to where a young team like this, like

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Speaker 3: Yeah. In terms of scheduling, it's a normal week, although

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it seems like pretty standard schedule. I thought Friday,

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Speaker 3: I got it. I need recommendation. I need recommendations for

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Speaker 6: I got a doc for you. We watched the doc shoot.

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Speaker 6: like yoga guru lady. Okay, next, it's it's kind of

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Speaker 4: I was kind of disrespectful trying to come up with

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Speaker 1: Game of Showgun, fred I just finished it. But isn't

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Speaker 3: I heard Japanese Game of Thrones. I know what Showgun is. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 5: James Clivell, Yeah, yeah, might watch more a little bit

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Speaker 5: of the Georgia Defense, maybe Michigan Okay, yeah.

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Speaker 6: I hope you've seen that everybody should see that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, against How about the games this weekend?

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Speaker 3: What are your thoughts? Boy? The Chiefs just they did

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Speaker 4: You did, and you went, You went one, one and

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Speaker 3: I was onto something.

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Speaker 4: If I were Kansas City, I'd be definitely afraid that

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Speaker 4: I do think that they looked better in some areas,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird. They move the ball, but then they

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Speaker 5: They don't pass protect well. Especially Mahome's been getting.

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Speaker 3: What about your team, the Bills.

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Speaker 4: It's a bad loss if you ask me, I mean

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying the Patriots defense did better against the

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Speaker 6: It's felt the same, looked, it looks similar times for sure.

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Speaker 4: But that would be the second part is is Ara

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Speaker 4: But I say, the Bills, do they pay the Tigers defense?

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Speaker 4: I mean, when they face they lose.

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Speaker 3: Is there a chance Ari might lose his job if

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Speaker 4: I mean, you can keep wishing. I mean, I think

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Speaker 4: Oh Billy, he's like he's thinking about going to North Carolina.

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Speaker 3: Listen, I don't know about that. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 4: I think it's the NFL it's killing him. I don't

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Speaker 3: It could be real interest, you know, but it also

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Speaker 4: That's all this is. Well, there's nobody interested, And it's

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Speaker 4: what who do you think reached out to? Who? No,

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Speaker 3: But if you're a team with an existing coach, you

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Speaker 4: Well, there are three teams that don't have coach. None

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Speaker 4: of them have evidently reached out. Who the Raiders, I mean,

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Speaker 3: Well, how do you know they haven't reached.

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Speaker 4: I agree with everything you just said. This is a ploy,

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Speaker 3: But what if the Jets reached out? He said I'm

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Speaker 4: You know, then stop bitching about no one being interested

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Speaker 3: Well he hasn't bitched at all. No, no, no, his cronies,

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Speaker 4: Not so discreetly. Yeah, that's Mike Lombardi for those of

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Speaker 3: And you know, if he did go to UNC, I

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Speaker 3: You know, uh scenario is the only place we'll be

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't think there's any chance of that. Well,

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Speaker 4: He had one team that talked to him. That's it,

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Speaker 3: It could be. It could be.

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Speaker 4: I don't tell me that it's hard to have conversations

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Speaker 3: Well. I just it's hard to do without it getting

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Speaker 4: No, it's not. No, it's not.

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Speaker 4: I think he wants to coach in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: I think he wants to coach. Obviously he wants to So.

437
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Speaker 6: I mean, this is funny because I mean I remember

438
00:20:21,474 --> 00:20:22,994
Speaker 6: having a conversation of like, what are the things that

439
00:20:23,033 --> 00:20:24,954
Speaker 6: built it out of spite? Here? And this feels like

440
00:20:24,994 --> 00:20:27,273
Speaker 6: another thing of like he's doing out a spite, like, oh,

441
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Speaker 6: you're not gonna talk to me, I'm gonna start talking

442
00:20:28,714 --> 00:20:30,754
Speaker 6: to it. And like, but what happens if like all

443
00:20:30,793 --> 00:20:32,953
Speaker 6: the chairs are gone at the end of the you know,

444
00:20:33,073 --> 00:20:33,874
Speaker 6: and I don't.

445
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Speaker 3: Think he wants to weigh but what if what if

446
00:20:36,353 --> 00:20:39,193
Speaker 3: he really is saying I do want to coach, but

447
00:20:39,273 --> 00:20:40,954
Speaker 3: I'm not going to coach in a place I'm not

448
00:20:40,994 --> 00:20:44,234
Speaker 3: going to be happy. So in other words, the conditions

449
00:20:44,273 --> 00:20:46,313
Speaker 3: have to be right. I'm at that, I'm at an

450
00:20:46,313 --> 00:20:50,234
Speaker 3: age I'm financially set. I can pick and choose, and

451
00:20:51,033 --> 00:20:53,873
Speaker 3: you know, like Lombardi said, he I know he he

452
00:20:53,954 --> 00:20:57,113
Speaker 3: poked fun at the at the Jaguars, but maybe he's

453
00:20:57,353 --> 00:20:59,474
Speaker 3: Bill has had a brothers. Yeah, maybe he's had a

454
00:20:59,513 --> 00:21:01,833
Speaker 3: conversation with Lombardi like I'm not gonna go coach at

455
00:21:01,833 --> 00:21:05,154
Speaker 3: a place where the owner's son's running the data analytics department.

456
00:21:05,273 --> 00:21:06,793
Speaker 3: And then Lombardi goes and repeats, So.

457
00:21:06,833 --> 00:21:09,473
Speaker 4: You didn't know the college jobs are actually more valuable now,

458
00:21:09,474 --> 00:21:12,073
Speaker 4: they're better jobs in the NFL jobs. Well, these are

459
00:21:12,073 --> 00:21:13,154
Speaker 4: the things I learned when I listen.

460
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Speaker 3: But it is kind of true that college is now,

461
00:21:17,634 --> 00:21:18,874
Speaker 3: it's changed.

462
00:21:18,593 --> 00:21:21,914
Speaker 4: It's worse. That's why they're getting out. Guys like Bill

463
00:21:21,954 --> 00:21:24,034
Speaker 4: are getting out of college now because of the way

464
00:21:24,073 --> 00:21:27,593
Speaker 4: it's changed. The greatest coach who's ever done it at

465
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Speaker 4: that level.

466
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Speaker 3: Well, if you if you're looking for college to remain

467
00:21:30,674 --> 00:21:33,354
Speaker 3: the same, you get out. But if you're coming from

468
00:21:33,353 --> 00:21:38,113
Speaker 3: the NFL, where money is the big thing, maybe the

469
00:21:38,234 --> 00:21:41,914
Speaker 3: college isn't such a leap anymore. You know, maybe it's

470
00:21:41,954 --> 00:21:42,953
Speaker 3: not that much different. Now.

471
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Speaker 4: I'm not saying that he can't coach in college. Yeah,

472
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Speaker 4: I'm saying that. Don't tell me that this is that's

473
00:21:47,914 --> 00:21:50,834
Speaker 4: a better opportunity in the NFL, which is what Mike Lombardi.

474
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Speaker 3: But I'm saying, if if you do want to coach,

475
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Speaker 3: and you want to make sure that where you coach

476
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Speaker 3: is you're you're going to be happy, maybe you look

477
00:21:59,114 --> 00:22:02,274
Speaker 3: at college like a North Carolina level team and say,

478
00:22:02,313 --> 00:22:05,593
Speaker 3: you know what, Yeah, I'm the big fish in the small.

479
00:22:05,754 --> 00:22:08,114
Speaker 4: I would just disagree. I don't think he has any options.

480
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Speaker 4: I think he reached out to North Carolina because why

481
00:22:10,954 --> 00:22:13,714
Speaker 4: would North Carolina fire or seventy something year old coach

482
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Speaker 4: and then their first thought was to call another seventy

483
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Speaker 4: something coach interested?

484
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Speaker 5: Why would North Carolina ever think Bill Belichick would be interested?

485
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Speaker 6: And why would he thank you first?

486
00:22:24,593 --> 00:22:27,114
Speaker 4: Good thing? Is that sense? Why would you be.

487
00:22:27,073 --> 00:22:29,273
Speaker 6: Interested in North Carolina of all places? Like is there

488
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Speaker 6: anything like specific open? I mean, I just college jobs

489
00:22:33,914 --> 00:22:34,394
Speaker 6: open right now.

490
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Speaker 5: Looking at the NFL, I just I think it's two

491
00:22:37,194 --> 00:22:40,434
Speaker 5: things for him. I think one, there's power structures in

492
00:22:40,474 --> 00:22:44,273
Speaker 5: the NFL where not every organization is just going to

493
00:22:44,313 --> 00:22:46,434
Speaker 5: be the head coach reports directly to the owner. I

494
00:22:46,474 --> 00:22:48,513
Speaker 5: think this is what happened in Atlanta. I think the

495
00:22:48,593 --> 00:22:52,273
Speaker 5: owner wanted Bill Belichick in Atlanta last year, but his

496
00:22:52,634 --> 00:22:55,714
Speaker 5: cronies McKay and all those guys said, well, what about me,

497
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Speaker 5: Like if you give the job to Bill, then I'm

498
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Speaker 5: going to be out of a job, or my power

499
00:22:59,513 --> 00:23:01,633
Speaker 5: is going to lesson or whatever. So they all go

500
00:23:01,793 --> 00:23:03,954
Speaker 5: rally the troops and say we can't let this guy

501
00:23:04,033 --> 00:23:06,314
Speaker 5: get the job. I think that's what happened in Atlanta

502
00:23:06,313 --> 00:23:09,313
Speaker 5: and the second thing, he's seventy three years old, So, like,

503
00:23:09,353 --> 00:23:12,153
Speaker 5: what's your runway with him as your head coach? If

504
00:23:12,154 --> 00:23:14,113
Speaker 5: you're a win now team and you really feel like

505
00:23:14,353 --> 00:23:16,553
Speaker 5: you're gonna win a super Bowl, if you hire this guy,

506
00:23:16,793 --> 00:23:18,433
Speaker 5: then I guess it's worth it to do it for

507
00:23:18,474 --> 00:23:22,194
Speaker 5: a year. But like after that, what's the runway? You know,

508
00:23:22,234 --> 00:23:25,873
Speaker 5: what's the what's the plan after that? Like you know,

509
00:23:26,073 --> 00:23:28,794
Speaker 5: just the Patriots are in that position right now where

510
00:23:28,833 --> 00:23:30,833
Speaker 5: they probably gave the job to a guy that was

511
00:23:31,154 --> 00:23:33,714
Speaker 5: not quite ready for the job because they had to

512
00:23:33,714 --> 00:23:37,073
Speaker 5: get out immediately from Bill. And now you're in a

513
00:23:37,114 --> 00:23:39,553
Speaker 5: position where you don't have someone that's you know, one

514
00:23:39,634 --> 00:23:41,553
Speaker 5: hundred percent qualified for what he's doing.

515
00:23:41,714 --> 00:23:45,313
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's that's not that's not the same comparison

516
00:23:45,793 --> 00:23:48,553
Speaker 3: with Bill. You would get on day one someone who's

517
00:23:48,593 --> 00:23:49,874
Speaker 3: one hundred percent quality and.

518
00:23:49,793 --> 00:23:50,914
Speaker 5: Who's coming after Bill.

519
00:23:51,154 --> 00:23:53,313
Speaker 3: Well, you worry about that then, But then you have

520
00:23:53,353 --> 00:23:55,594
Speaker 3: a super Bowl and that buys you a lot.

521
00:23:55,754 --> 00:23:56,873
Speaker 5: That's assuming he wins.

522
00:23:57,434 --> 00:23:58,634
Speaker 3: Well that's why you do it.

523
00:23:59,353 --> 00:24:02,234
Speaker 5: But like right, but like so you're gonna.

524
00:24:02,073 --> 00:24:04,433
Speaker 3: It's a gamble, sure, right, it's a huge gam but

525
00:24:04,474 --> 00:24:06,674
Speaker 3: every time you hire a new coach, it's a gamble,

526
00:24:06,793 --> 00:24:07,674
Speaker 3: but you hire.

527
00:24:08,234 --> 00:24:10,873
Speaker 5: It just doesn't fit the blueprint of what teams are

528
00:24:10,914 --> 00:24:13,714
Speaker 5: looking for nowadays. Like teams are looking for the forty

529
00:24:13,793 --> 00:24:17,673
Speaker 5: year old wiz kid, right the Sean McVay, the Kyle Shanahan,

530
00:24:18,114 --> 00:24:21,074
Speaker 5: like the Ben Johnson, Like that's that's the it thing

531
00:24:21,194 --> 00:24:24,593
Speaker 5: right now. He's the polar opposite of that. So it

532
00:24:24,793 --> 00:24:27,113
Speaker 5: just looking at it from you know, the way the

533
00:24:27,234 --> 00:24:30,033
Speaker 5: hiring cycles have gone the last couple of years, Like

534
00:24:30,073 --> 00:24:32,594
Speaker 5: none of these older coaches are getting jobs, Like Pete

535
00:24:32,593 --> 00:24:34,234
Speaker 5: Carroll's out in Seattle too, like that.

536
00:24:34,474 --> 00:24:35,674
Speaker 3: Does he want to coach? Does he?

537
00:24:36,353 --> 00:24:36,433
Speaker 6: Like?

538
00:24:36,553 --> 00:24:37,394
Speaker 4: I haven't heard.

539
00:24:37,154 --> 00:24:39,314
Speaker 5: Any upstairs job technically.

540
00:24:39,073 --> 00:24:41,674
Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't heard any desire from him.

541
00:24:41,994 --> 00:24:45,194
Speaker 4: I think, you know, getting back he's actually to Bill

542
00:24:45,234 --> 00:24:48,513
Speaker 4: and his options. I think if you if you look

543
00:24:48,553 --> 00:24:52,154
Speaker 4: at the landscape, they'll they'll be there'll be jobs open.

544
00:24:52,394 --> 00:24:54,594
Speaker 4: I don't you know, maybe Dallas ends up not being

545
00:24:54,634 --> 00:24:56,634
Speaker 4: one of them. Everybody thought it would be. Who knows,

546
00:24:56,833 --> 00:25:00,193
Speaker 4: but this is going to be jobs open. But for options,

547
00:25:00,593 --> 00:25:06,513
Speaker 4: these teams have Ben Johnson, Aaron Glenn, Cliff Kingsbury, Mike Rabel.

548
00:25:07,833 --> 00:25:10,474
Speaker 4: I don't know Bobby Slowick got a lot of interviews

549
00:25:10,553 --> 00:25:12,634
Speaker 4: last year. They haven't been as good offensively this year.

550
00:25:12,634 --> 00:25:16,634
Speaker 4: Who knows, maybe, but I think Bill understands the preference

551
00:25:16,674 --> 00:25:19,994
Speaker 4: is for what what Evan's talking about. We need a

552
00:25:20,033 --> 00:25:23,833
Speaker 4: younger guy who's the next big thing, and that's the

553
00:25:23,874 --> 00:25:25,313
Speaker 4: guys that are going to get all the attention. I

554
00:25:25,353 --> 00:25:28,314
Speaker 4: think Bill recognizes that he hasn't heard anything from these

555
00:25:28,353 --> 00:25:30,513
Speaker 4: teams because they're all waiting for the season to end,

556
00:25:30,994 --> 00:25:32,914
Speaker 4: and he doesn't want to wait that long. He has

557
00:25:32,954 --> 00:25:34,513
Speaker 4: this opportunity that just came up.

558
00:25:35,513 --> 00:25:36,474
Speaker 3: I mean, you could be right.

559
00:25:36,754 --> 00:25:40,033
Speaker 4: I think for North Carolina, I think that they could

560
00:25:40,033 --> 00:25:43,034
Speaker 4: bite the bullet and say, well, it's going to put

561
00:25:43,033 --> 00:25:46,074
Speaker 4: eyeballs on our program for a year or two and

562
00:25:46,674 --> 00:25:48,153
Speaker 4: he's going to be a good coach. We know we

563
00:25:48,194 --> 00:25:51,314
Speaker 4: can coach. So it's not like like I heard someone say,

564
00:25:51,353 --> 00:25:54,313
Speaker 4: if he wins six or seven games, like that would

565
00:25:54,313 --> 00:25:57,033
Speaker 4: be great. Like that's what they do now. They go

566
00:25:57,073 --> 00:25:59,154
Speaker 4: to bowl games every year North Carolina. They went to

567
00:25:59,154 --> 00:26:01,234
Speaker 4: eight games last year in a bad year with Drake

568
00:26:01,313 --> 00:26:04,674
Speaker 4: may and I think they're in the Fenway Park Bowl

569
00:26:04,714 --> 00:26:07,594
Speaker 4: this year. It was abi Fenway Bowl whatever that's called.

570
00:26:07,593 --> 00:26:09,714
Speaker 5: A couple of years ago there in the SEC championship games.

571
00:26:09,793 --> 00:26:12,153
Speaker 4: So like, let's not make this out to be if

572
00:26:12,154 --> 00:26:13,873
Speaker 4: Bill comes and goes eight and four, we're going to

573
00:26:13,914 --> 00:26:16,434
Speaker 4: build statues of him. That's what they are. They can't

574
00:26:16,434 --> 00:26:18,354
Speaker 4: be the team that goes eleven and one.

575
00:26:18,394 --> 00:26:19,593
Speaker 3: They just can't.

576
00:26:19,793 --> 00:26:21,313
Speaker 4: They can't get to that level.

577
00:26:21,434 --> 00:26:25,273
Speaker 3: But you have to play against college.

578
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Speaker 6: Deny, I'm be intrigued to see him coach in college,

579
00:26:27,593 --> 00:26:29,313
Speaker 6: Like all this other stuff. I totally agree, and it's

580
00:26:29,353 --> 00:26:31,234
Speaker 6: all good talk, but like just to actually see him

581
00:26:31,273 --> 00:26:34,353
Speaker 6: coach college, and like I just schematically what does he do? Like,

582
00:26:34,394 --> 00:26:36,153
Speaker 6: what does he do? Does he try to bing? Like

583
00:26:36,313 --> 00:26:38,114
Speaker 6: his the guy who's.

584
00:26:38,513 --> 00:26:43,274
Speaker 4: Geames but scoff at all college schemes for twenty five years?

585
00:26:43,353 --> 00:26:43,553
Speaker 3: Rights?

586
00:26:43,634 --> 00:26:45,314
Speaker 6: And you know when he said I think I saw

587
00:26:45,394 --> 00:26:48,274
Speaker 6: him on the you know, saying I'm gonna pro ready players,

588
00:26:48,313 --> 00:26:50,673
Speaker 6: So right, is he gonna eskew?

589
00:26:50,833 --> 00:26:54,234
Speaker 3: Well, you know the more quarterbacks. When Coughlin went to BC,

590
00:26:54,793 --> 00:26:59,793
Speaker 3: Tom Coflin, he ran a pro offense at BC and

591
00:26:59,793 --> 00:27:01,834
Speaker 3: they were pretty good back then.

592
00:27:01,954 --> 00:27:04,313
Speaker 6: Yeah, Glenn, fully, yeah, I remember.

593
00:27:03,994 --> 00:27:06,434
Speaker 3: That, like he was running a pro style off.

594
00:27:06,353 --> 00:27:09,234
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that his like offensively Billo I mean,

595
00:27:09,313 --> 00:27:11,153
Speaker 4: we don't have to go back thirty years. Bill O'Brien

596
00:27:11,234 --> 00:27:13,914
Speaker 4: did it at Penn State. Yeah, he ran the Patriots

597
00:27:13,914 --> 00:27:17,313
Speaker 4: offense with Christian Hackenberg and he actually made him a

598
00:27:17,313 --> 00:27:19,634
Speaker 4: second round pick and the guy couldn't play. Turns out,

599
00:27:21,033 --> 00:27:24,594
Speaker 4: so he I mean, I'm not necessarily saying his schemes.

600
00:27:24,833 --> 00:27:29,114
Speaker 3: I'm gonna defend Bill in terms of his potential because

601
00:27:29,754 --> 00:27:32,034
Speaker 3: I think he's smart enough to adapt to anything.

602
00:27:32,114 --> 00:27:35,474
Speaker 4: I just said, I don't think that it's I know

603
00:27:35,553 --> 00:27:38,154
Speaker 4: if I think if you hired him as CEO Walmart

604
00:27:38,194 --> 00:27:40,873
Speaker 4: he'd be successful, I really do so.

605
00:27:40,954 --> 00:27:41,634
Speaker 3: I think he will.

606
00:27:41,674 --> 00:27:43,994
Speaker 4: I think that's kind of a people business. I think

607
00:27:43,994 --> 00:27:45,354
Speaker 4: you might have to have a passion.

608
00:27:45,154 --> 00:27:47,674
Speaker 5: Doubt that you do a good job at North Carolina.

609
00:27:47,754 --> 00:27:49,954
Speaker 4: Is the coaching coaching.

610
00:27:49,674 --> 00:27:53,154
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have So what do you recruiting?

611
00:27:53,234 --> 00:27:53,593
Speaker 4: Everything?

612
00:27:53,634 --> 00:27:55,154
Speaker 3: All the other stuff is dealing with.

613
00:27:55,114 --> 00:27:58,273
Speaker 6: The barring seventeen and eight eighteen year old kids.

614
00:27:58,313 --> 00:28:01,154
Speaker 4: So I think that his reputation will draw some kids

615
00:28:01,194 --> 00:28:04,793
Speaker 4: to him, much like Deon Sanders did. Right, Okay, And

616
00:28:04,874 --> 00:28:07,914
Speaker 4: I'm not comparing their personalities. Obviously a lot of names,

617
00:28:07,914 --> 00:28:10,793
Speaker 4: there'd be a lot more young players who would be

618
00:28:10,833 --> 00:28:14,873
Speaker 4: more drawn to Deon Sanders than Bill Belichick, but the

619
00:28:15,394 --> 00:28:17,593
Speaker 4: whole cliche. You have a guy that knows what it

620
00:28:17,634 --> 00:28:19,313
Speaker 4: takes to get you ready to play in the NFL.

621
00:28:19,874 --> 00:28:21,353
Speaker 4: You go and play for him, and he's going to

622
00:28:21,353 --> 00:28:24,154
Speaker 4: get you NFL prepared. But nowadays they don't do that.

623
00:28:24,313 --> 00:28:27,353
Speaker 4: They don't stay in college at the same place for

624
00:28:27,674 --> 00:28:31,353
Speaker 4: three or four years. So you will have to recruit

625
00:28:31,394 --> 00:28:33,634
Speaker 4: those guys after they get in your program. You need

626
00:28:33,634 --> 00:28:35,913
Speaker 4: to recruit them to get them to stay right, and

627
00:28:35,954 --> 00:28:38,633
Speaker 4: you need to pagi. I heard I heard some numbers

628
00:28:38,634 --> 00:28:41,794
Speaker 4: today on one of your shows, Fred that indicated that

629
00:28:42,714 --> 00:28:47,034
Speaker 4: their nil last year was was like four million. The

630
00:28:47,074 --> 00:28:49,914
Speaker 4: UNC is nil and now because of revenue sharing gonna

631
00:28:49,914 --> 00:28:52,474
Speaker 4: be up to twelve million. That's basically what it's going

632
00:28:52,554 --> 00:28:54,834
Speaker 4: to cost to get him to be your coach. So

633
00:28:54,874 --> 00:28:57,154
Speaker 4: where are you going to get the money to pay

634
00:28:57,154 --> 00:28:57,633
Speaker 4: for these.

635
00:28:57,474 --> 00:28:59,834
Speaker 3: Places at the same pot that it comes out of?

636
00:29:00,074 --> 00:29:03,554
Speaker 4: Pretty much? Yeah, Like there's only so much money you have.

637
00:29:03,714 --> 00:29:06,794
Speaker 4: Like I think that it could. I think he'd be

638
00:29:06,874 --> 00:29:11,153
Speaker 4: fine coaching whoever, like I heard them saying last night,

639
00:29:11,194 --> 00:29:14,673
Speaker 4: and it was fine. I heard Current and Phil you know,

640
00:29:14,754 --> 00:29:17,954
Speaker 4: talking on one on on the early edition, and I

641
00:29:17,994 --> 00:29:20,274
Speaker 4: think current said, he goes you know, listen, I don't

642
00:29:20,274 --> 00:29:22,354
Speaker 4: worry about Bill being able to coach. He can have

643
00:29:22,554 --> 00:29:24,514
Speaker 4: the running back that runs a four to nine. He's

644
00:29:24,554 --> 00:29:26,354
Speaker 4: going to figure out way to make that work. And

645
00:29:26,434 --> 00:29:29,074
Speaker 4: I agree with him largely he will, especially at the

646
00:29:29,114 --> 00:29:30,954
Speaker 4: college level. Can you imagine what he would do to

647
00:29:30,954 --> 00:29:31,994
Speaker 4: some of those college guys.

648
00:29:32,194 --> 00:29:36,594
Speaker 5: I actually think his style might work better he he'd.

649
00:29:35,794 --> 00:29:37,954
Speaker 4: Out coached the crap out of more than half of

650
00:29:37,954 --> 00:29:40,834
Speaker 4: that league because a lot of those that's what I'm saying,

651
00:29:40,874 --> 00:29:43,034
Speaker 4: like a lot of those guys that like they're just

652
00:29:43,154 --> 00:29:45,354
Speaker 4: they're just trying to figure it out. So I have

653
00:29:45,434 --> 00:29:48,954
Speaker 4: no questions about his coaching ability at that level. I

654
00:29:48,994 --> 00:29:51,034
Speaker 4: have a question about how he's going to relate to

655
00:29:51,074 --> 00:29:53,834
Speaker 4: those kids and keep them and get enough of them

656
00:29:53,874 --> 00:29:54,394
Speaker 4: to buy in.

657
00:29:54,834 --> 00:29:56,393
Speaker 3: The girlfriend relates to them.

658
00:29:56,634 --> 00:29:58,994
Speaker 4: She cooks stinner, you gotta take you got to take cheap, she.

659
00:29:58,914 --> 00:30:01,714
Speaker 3: Cooks dinners Saturday, you know, Friday night? Did the team?

660
00:30:01,794 --> 00:30:03,873
Speaker 5: But you do hear like now that he's on TV,

661
00:30:04,474 --> 00:30:06,354
Speaker 5: like Saban, you can see that he can turn on

662
00:30:06,434 --> 00:30:09,074
Speaker 5: the charm a little bit and be that kind of

663
00:30:09,114 --> 00:30:10,074
Speaker 5: guy where I.

664
00:30:10,034 --> 00:30:13,274
Speaker 4: Could be convinced Saban's funny Yeah, you don't.

665
00:30:13,434 --> 00:30:16,473
Speaker 5: You don't see that that side to Bill, where like

666
00:30:16,554 --> 00:30:19,433
Speaker 5: I would be an eighteen year old kid and you know,

667
00:30:19,594 --> 00:30:22,473
Speaker 5: getting recruited to every single school in the country, and

668
00:30:22,514 --> 00:30:26,474
Speaker 5: I'm gonna pick Bill over you know, Dob Sweeney or whatever.

669
00:30:26,674 --> 00:30:27,994
Speaker 5: It was the only other coach I could think.

670
00:30:27,994 --> 00:30:30,994
Speaker 4: And if you're in North Carolina, what on earth would

671
00:30:30,994 --> 00:30:34,754
Speaker 4: possess you to say, sure, you do it for two years,

672
00:30:34,794 --> 00:30:36,714
Speaker 4: maybe three, and then your son can take it. Right?

673
00:30:37,274 --> 00:30:38,114
Speaker 3: Well, that was weird.

674
00:30:38,194 --> 00:30:40,474
Speaker 4: I'm putting that in writing.

675
00:30:40,674 --> 00:30:42,354
Speaker 3: No do we know that's true?

676
00:30:42,594 --> 00:30:44,554
Speaker 4: Not because and this is not this is not a

677
00:30:44,554 --> 00:30:47,834
Speaker 4: shot at Steve. Why am I agreeing to this? And

678
00:30:47,834 --> 00:30:49,673
Speaker 4: then if let's say Bill comes in and we go

679
00:30:49,754 --> 00:30:52,394
Speaker 4: six and six two years in a row, I want

680
00:30:52,434 --> 00:30:53,314
Speaker 4: to sign up for more of it.

681
00:30:53,594 --> 00:30:55,474
Speaker 3: I I don't know if that part of it's true.

682
00:30:55,474 --> 00:30:57,154
Speaker 6: I don't either, but it just it made me think

683
00:30:57,154 --> 00:30:58,873
Speaker 6: of how things went down here and how there was

684
00:30:58,914 --> 00:31:01,113
Speaker 6: a successor in place and it wasn't his successor. And

685
00:31:01,114 --> 00:31:03,834
Speaker 6: maybe now I experience he's saying, if I'm gonna go

686
00:31:03,874 --> 00:31:06,673
Speaker 6: do something, now, I'm gonna know what's gonna come after me.

687
00:31:06,714 --> 00:31:08,994
Speaker 6: But I I find it a little bit of a stress.

688
00:31:08,754 --> 00:31:10,954
Speaker 3: And if you really want to do what's best for Steve,

689
00:31:10,994 --> 00:31:13,633
Speaker 3: you don't do that. No, you don't. You don't like

690
00:31:14,154 --> 00:31:17,554
Speaker 3: have your current you know, or potential employer promise your

691
00:31:17,554 --> 00:31:20,794
Speaker 3: son a job that that that's a bad look for

692
00:31:20,834 --> 00:31:25,114
Speaker 3: his son. I'm dubious about that part of the story

693
00:31:25,474 --> 00:31:26,154
Speaker 3: me too, you know.

694
00:31:27,034 --> 00:31:29,194
Speaker 4: But I'm dubious that North Carolina would do it. I'm

695
00:31:29,194 --> 00:31:30,714
Speaker 4: not dubious that they asked for it.

696
00:31:31,314 --> 00:31:32,714
Speaker 5: What I find fascinating, I am.

697
00:31:32,754 --> 00:31:34,834
Speaker 4: I think that's right in line with the way he offers.

698
00:31:35,234 --> 00:31:35,994
Speaker 3: I'm dubious.

699
00:31:36,394 --> 00:31:38,873
Speaker 5: I think what's fascinating from the North Carolina perspective is

700
00:31:38,874 --> 00:31:42,274
Speaker 5: it doesn't sound like everybody down there is on board

701
00:31:42,554 --> 00:31:44,634
Speaker 5: with hiring him. Now, that could be a money thing.

702
00:31:44,714 --> 00:31:45,794
Speaker 5: It could be simply we don't.

703
00:31:45,634 --> 00:31:46,394
Speaker 4: Want to foud him.

704
00:31:46,714 --> 00:31:49,474
Speaker 5: But it also could be we just fired a seventy

705
00:31:49,514 --> 00:31:51,154
Speaker 5: three year old head coach, and we're going to hire

706
00:31:51,194 --> 00:31:53,113
Speaker 5: another seventy three year old head coach that's going to

707
00:31:53,154 --> 00:31:54,873
Speaker 5: be out of here in two years, and we have

708
00:31:54,994 --> 00:31:57,474
Speaker 5: to promise his son the job afterwards. Like are all

709
00:31:57,474 --> 00:32:00,434
Speaker 5: these whether that's true or not, just all these parameters,

710
00:32:00,474 --> 00:32:02,354
Speaker 5: Like I think someone said that he had like a

711
00:32:02,434 --> 00:32:06,873
Speaker 5: four hundred page like handbook of like what the Bill

712
00:32:06,914 --> 00:32:10,354
Speaker 5: Pelichick program would look like at North Carolina with like.

713
00:32:10,474 --> 00:32:12,713
Speaker 4: That, that's a page turn on, you know, all sorts

714
00:32:12,754 --> 00:32:13,794
Speaker 4: of like everything.

715
00:32:13,834 --> 00:32:15,914
Speaker 5: You know, we know all the stuff that goes into

716
00:32:16,074 --> 00:32:16,994
Speaker 5: shootball program.

717
00:32:17,194 --> 00:32:19,674
Speaker 3: He did do a job. He's been doing a lot

718
00:32:19,714 --> 00:32:23,794
Speaker 3: of research, so like to me, that's like, wow, I'd

719
00:32:23,794 --> 00:32:26,714
Speaker 3: be impressed by that. Like, Okay, he's seventy three, but

720
00:32:27,634 --> 00:32:30,673
Speaker 3: what his age. If the guy is still mentally sharp

721
00:32:30,714 --> 00:32:33,834
Speaker 3: and eager to do it, who cares? I mean MATC.

722
00:32:33,874 --> 00:32:37,394
Speaker 3: Brown got fired, but he got fired for cause. I mean,

723
00:32:38,194 --> 00:32:40,434
Speaker 3: we're going to bring in a guy, regardless of his age,

724
00:32:40,434 --> 00:32:42,154
Speaker 3: that I think is going to be a better coach.

725
00:32:42,554 --> 00:32:44,794
Speaker 6: What do you think's changed from the time when he said,

726
00:32:44,874 --> 00:32:46,514
Speaker 6: you know, famously, I'm not going to be like Marv

727
00:32:46,594 --> 00:32:48,514
Speaker 6: Levy coaching in my seventies. You think you just get

728
00:32:48,554 --> 00:32:49,954
Speaker 6: to that point and you're like, I feel good and

729
00:32:49,994 --> 00:32:51,594
Speaker 6: I still like it and I just want to keep going.

730
00:32:51,474 --> 00:32:52,434
Speaker 4: Well, and I don't.

731
00:32:52,514 --> 00:32:54,554
Speaker 3: That's why he probably regrets saying that.

732
00:32:54,594 --> 00:32:56,834
Speaker 4: I don't hold that against him, Yeah, I don't, because

733
00:32:56,874 --> 00:32:59,674
Speaker 4: I think you can change your mind when you go Yeah, absolutely,

734
00:33:00,474 --> 00:33:03,954
Speaker 4: But I mean Mac Brown's a great college coach. Mack

735
00:33:03,994 --> 00:33:07,153
Speaker 4: Brown won national title at Texas. Yeah, like he got

736
00:33:07,234 --> 00:33:10,434
Speaker 4: fired for his age, I know, but anything else.

737
00:33:10,634 --> 00:33:13,954
Speaker 3: But you know, but not all seventy three year olds

738
00:33:13,954 --> 00:33:16,474
Speaker 3: are the same. Like I know, I take care of

739
00:33:16,514 --> 00:33:19,594
Speaker 3: somebody who's eighty three, the exact same age as Robert Kraft.

740
00:33:20,114 --> 00:33:23,713
Speaker 3: You wouldn't know it. This guy can't even move, you know.

741
00:33:23,834 --> 00:33:26,234
Speaker 3: It's just because you're the same age doesn't mean you're

742
00:33:26,514 --> 00:33:29,153
Speaker 3: still at the same ability.

743
00:33:29,194 --> 00:33:30,674
Speaker 6: So, I mean, I think I said on the show

744
00:33:30,674 --> 00:33:33,474
Speaker 6: before there was even before Bill left here, there's always

745
00:33:33,474 --> 00:33:35,714
Speaker 6: part of me that just could see him going to

746
00:33:35,914 --> 00:33:37,994
Speaker 6: I said high school football, you know, And I guess

747
00:33:38,074 --> 00:33:40,034
Speaker 6: this is the extreme version of it a little bit, But

748
00:33:40,594 --> 00:33:42,634
Speaker 6: I don't know. I just I think that it would

749
00:33:42,674 --> 00:33:44,594
Speaker 6: be really interesting to see him coaching in this whole

750
00:33:44,634 --> 00:33:46,314
Speaker 6: program and what kind of players does he spit out?

751
00:33:46,354 --> 00:33:48,274
Speaker 3: And he really didn't develop young.

752
00:33:48,114 --> 00:33:49,874
Speaker 6: Players here over the last five years.

753
00:33:49,874 --> 00:33:51,954
Speaker 4: So why are you going to play? Are you going

754
00:33:52,034 --> 00:33:53,274
Speaker 4: to play the twenty six year old?

755
00:33:53,594 --> 00:33:57,354
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, forget about the I would love it if

756
00:33:57,354 --> 00:34:00,274
Speaker 3: it started a new trend of older NFL coaches who

757
00:34:00,314 --> 00:34:01,274
Speaker 3: go back to college.

758
00:34:01,514 --> 00:34:05,594
Speaker 5: I just think it's played a little bit like if

759
00:34:05,594 --> 00:34:10,194
Speaker 5: you're I don't know if the authoritarian thing works anymore

760
00:34:10,194 --> 00:34:12,433
Speaker 5: in the NFL. I don't know if.

761
00:34:12,754 --> 00:34:15,034
Speaker 4: It's certainly going to work with those kids who have

762
00:34:15,514 --> 00:34:18,074
Speaker 4: three hundred and fifteen options.

763
00:34:18,474 --> 00:34:21,634
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know about recruiting, but like, once you

764
00:34:21,674 --> 00:34:24,033
Speaker 5: get there, you know, I think that that style does

765
00:34:24,074 --> 00:34:26,794
Speaker 5: work better with a nineteen year old kid who terrified.

766
00:34:26,914 --> 00:34:29,354
Speaker 6: Yeah, who is literally like I mean, like Julian Edelman

767
00:34:29,394 --> 00:34:32,634
Speaker 6: talking about coming into the building anymore, he felt sick.

768
00:34:32,914 --> 00:34:34,834
Speaker 4: They're entitled. They're not terrified.

769
00:34:34,873 --> 00:34:36,594
Speaker 6: I'm saying if he's the coach, you know what I mean, Like,

770
00:34:36,594 --> 00:34:40,274
Speaker 6: if you're there at that program, all the hardcore dads

771
00:34:40,314 --> 00:34:42,314
Speaker 6: and you're gonna go play for coach Belli, she's gonna

772
00:34:42,314 --> 00:34:42,594
Speaker 6: stop you.

773
00:34:42,594 --> 00:34:44,474
Speaker 3: Going to make you into an NFL player?

774
00:34:44,634 --> 00:34:47,234
Speaker 4: Is the other thing? Fred? That's like hardcore dads of

775
00:34:47,274 --> 00:34:47,754
Speaker 4: our age.

776
00:34:47,873 --> 00:34:48,593
Speaker 3: Yeah.

777
00:34:48,913 --> 00:34:51,674
Speaker 4: The dads now are like twenty years younger. They're like,

778
00:34:52,034 --> 00:34:53,513
Speaker 4: you're not gonna let them talk to you like that?

779
00:34:53,994 --> 00:34:55,794
Speaker 4: Who do I speak to you? Say? The way you

780
00:34:55,794 --> 00:34:57,234
Speaker 4: talk to my son, that's what you get.

781
00:34:57,354 --> 00:35:01,194
Speaker 3: The mothers will be calling Bill Belichick, Bill, you can't

782
00:35:01,194 --> 00:35:02,354
Speaker 3: talk to my son that way.

783
00:35:02,634 --> 00:35:04,634
Speaker 5: I mean I just don't feel like that is the

784
00:35:04,714 --> 00:35:07,754
Speaker 5: program we're talking about, Like if you were trying to

785
00:35:07,754 --> 00:35:10,754
Speaker 5: coach Michigan or Alabama or you know, one of these

786
00:35:10,754 --> 00:35:14,594
Speaker 5: blue Bud programs where like these are five star, number

787
00:35:14,634 --> 00:35:17,393
Speaker 5: one recruits in their class. Yeah, they have all sorts

788
00:35:17,393 --> 00:35:20,073
Speaker 5: of options. The kids that go to North Carolina don't

789
00:35:20,114 --> 00:35:23,913
Speaker 5: have all sorts of options, Like they're not having ten

790
00:35:23,913 --> 00:35:26,834
Speaker 5: to fifteen offers, you know, from D one schools. It's

791
00:35:26,913 --> 00:35:29,674
Speaker 5: North Carolina football. Like the one guy that they were

792
00:35:29,674 --> 00:35:32,713
Speaker 5: able to recruit is Drake because he literally was from there,

793
00:35:32,913 --> 00:35:35,393
Speaker 5: and his brothers went there, and his father went there,

794
00:35:35,433 --> 00:35:37,953
Speaker 5: and everybody went there. And only reason why he went

795
00:35:37,994 --> 00:35:40,513
Speaker 5: to North Carolina was because of Mac Brown. If Mac

796
00:35:40,554 --> 00:35:43,154
Speaker 5: Brown never goes back to North Carolina, Drake May was

797
00:35:43,194 --> 00:35:45,154
Speaker 5: going to go to Alabama and he's gonna play for

798
00:35:45,234 --> 00:35:48,513
Speaker 5: Nick Saban. So like, I just I don't I think

799
00:35:48,554 --> 00:35:51,954
Speaker 5: that style would work better than like telling a grown

800
00:35:52,034 --> 00:35:54,754
Speaker 5: man who's making ten fifteen million dollars a year to

801
00:35:54,754 --> 00:35:57,553
Speaker 5: play for in the NFL, Like, you know, you didn't

802
00:35:57,554 --> 00:35:59,553
Speaker 5: show up to a meeting on time, so now you're

803
00:35:59,913 --> 00:36:02,314
Speaker 5: your bench for the first quarter. Like, I don't think

804
00:36:02,354 --> 00:36:04,073
Speaker 5: that that works anymore in the league.

805
00:36:04,194 --> 00:36:06,354
Speaker 6: I just I think I think back on Edelman talking

806
00:36:06,354 --> 00:36:09,393
Speaker 6: about coming here to this building and feeling like nauseous

807
00:36:09,393 --> 00:36:12,234
Speaker 6: every day walking in because you are in a spotlight

808
00:36:12,274 --> 00:36:14,314
Speaker 6: with him, and that's you know, that's like, I get

809
00:36:14,314 --> 00:36:16,194
Speaker 6: the discipline stuff in your heart ass. But at the

810
00:36:16,194 --> 00:36:19,553
Speaker 6: same time, like guys here felt like they constantly had

811
00:36:19,554 --> 00:36:21,873
Speaker 6: to be on they get stopped in the hallway. Who's

812
00:36:21,913 --> 00:36:24,354
Speaker 6: the Mike linebacker? You know, they feel like kind of thing.

813
00:36:24,873 --> 00:36:28,314
Speaker 4: No, I mean he was under no last year under Bill,

814
00:36:28,873 --> 00:36:29,873
Speaker 4: that was fifteen years.

815
00:36:29,873 --> 00:36:32,873
Speaker 6: I don't know. I don't know that'll make but I'm.

816
00:36:32,674 --> 00:36:34,433
Speaker 4: Trying to tell you it's a different I think we're

817
00:36:34,473 --> 00:36:35,433
Speaker 4: deal with a different.

818
00:36:37,994 --> 00:36:39,234
Speaker 6: Change and justice.

819
00:36:39,274 --> 00:36:41,674
Speaker 4: I don't think Bill's willing to change and adjust. I

820
00:36:41,714 --> 00:36:45,393
Speaker 4: think the players, if Evan's right, the players at that

821
00:36:45,473 --> 00:36:48,673
Speaker 4: age would be more willing to accept it. If I'm right,

822
00:36:49,554 --> 00:36:52,873
Speaker 4: they're gonna say, screw that, I had an option to

823
00:36:52,913 --> 00:36:55,274
Speaker 4: go to North Carolina or Wake Forest. I'll go to

824
00:36:55,274 --> 00:36:58,354
Speaker 4: Wake Forest. Like I get it, You're not dealing with

825
00:36:58,393 --> 00:37:02,674
Speaker 4: five star recruits. They have options, they have the they

826
00:37:02,674 --> 00:37:05,553
Speaker 4: have a lot of school options, right, and if they're

827
00:37:05,554 --> 00:37:07,873
Speaker 4: not good enough to be in the power for then

828
00:37:07,873 --> 00:37:10,034
Speaker 4: they'll go to the other the other place. And because

829
00:37:10,393 --> 00:37:13,274
Speaker 4: this is passed through the league in a number of places,

830
00:37:13,314 --> 00:37:15,513
Speaker 4: I know they'll find you if you can play. But

831
00:37:15,554 --> 00:37:17,154
Speaker 4: I don't have to get yelled at every day and

832
00:37:17,154 --> 00:37:18,994
Speaker 4: feel nauxious when I go into the facility.

833
00:37:19,074 --> 00:37:21,114
Speaker 6: But it's not getting yelled at like it's the point

834
00:37:21,154 --> 00:37:23,794
Speaker 6: is that the discipline of the program and the level

835
00:37:23,873 --> 00:37:26,673
Speaker 6: that and also the peer prior of them. I don't

836
00:37:26,714 --> 00:37:28,993
Speaker 6: care about like the yelling at stuff. I just mean

837
00:37:29,034 --> 00:37:31,714
Speaker 6: what he the way he runs his program and the

838
00:37:31,754 --> 00:37:33,274
Speaker 6: way he wants his team to prepare.

839
00:37:33,354 --> 00:37:34,794
Speaker 3: The expectations are.

840
00:37:34,634 --> 00:37:37,274
Speaker 6: Those like are these kids were gonna is he gonna

841
00:37:37,274 --> 00:37:40,034
Speaker 6: adjust his level to college kids who have classes as well?

842
00:37:40,393 --> 00:37:43,234
Speaker 6: Or is it like you better know who you know

843
00:37:43,314 --> 00:37:45,834
Speaker 6: the starting right guard is and what his tendencies are.

844
00:37:45,994 --> 00:37:47,794
Speaker 6: You know, I'm sorry you had a chemistry test, but

845
00:37:47,834 --> 00:37:49,873
Speaker 6: you know, like that's what I That's what I wonder.

846
00:37:49,913 --> 00:37:52,114
Speaker 3: It's at North Carolina when you're coach, you have to

847
00:37:52,114 --> 00:37:54,314
Speaker 3: teach a class to will he have to teach history

848
00:37:54,433 --> 00:37:54,874
Speaker 3: or something.

849
00:37:55,314 --> 00:37:57,473
Speaker 4: I'm with Mike. I think the way that Mike just

850
00:37:57,473 --> 00:37:59,433
Speaker 4: finished that up, I just don't see that.

851
00:37:59,554 --> 00:38:01,553
Speaker 6: Yeah, because It's just it's hard to see him change

852
00:38:01,554 --> 00:38:01,873
Speaker 6: his style.

853
00:38:01,994 --> 00:38:03,593
Speaker 3: At the end of the day. I know we're kind

854
00:38:03,594 --> 00:38:06,834
Speaker 3: of monopolizing the show with Bill Belichick, but so does

855
00:38:06,834 --> 00:38:08,754
Speaker 3: he coach you not coach in twenty twenty five.

856
00:38:09,634 --> 00:38:12,234
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna end up getting this job. Okay.

857
00:38:12,234 --> 00:38:13,873
Speaker 4: I didn't think that when it first came out. I

858
00:38:13,913 --> 00:38:16,754
Speaker 4: was like everybody else like, but I kind of think

859
00:38:16,754 --> 00:38:17,714
Speaker 4: he's going to get this job.

860
00:38:18,034 --> 00:38:19,594
Speaker 3: I'll be intrigued. I'll be watching.

861
00:38:20,354 --> 00:38:22,513
Speaker 4: I'd be much more intrigued if it was an NFL job.

862
00:38:22,554 --> 00:38:23,594
Speaker 4: I'm a little disappointed.

863
00:38:23,714 --> 00:38:26,234
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm a little bit too. I still would like to.

864
00:38:26,154 --> 00:38:28,834
Speaker 4: Swell, you know, like a Beatle was saying twelve thirty

865
00:38:28,873 --> 00:38:32,593
Speaker 4: on the CW yesterday, like no one's no one's going

866
00:38:32,634 --> 00:38:34,274
Speaker 4: to be watching to get some North Carolina hoodies.

867
00:38:34,274 --> 00:38:38,073
Speaker 3: Though maybe well listen, there's only three days left. Three

868
00:38:38,154 --> 00:38:41,354
Speaker 3: days left, you know what I'm talking about. I'm talking

869
00:38:41,354 --> 00:38:45,474
Speaker 3: about the most nail biting action film of the season.

870
00:38:45,714 --> 00:38:48,594
Speaker 3: Carry On. Oh, I was told that I said carry

871
00:38:48,594 --> 00:38:52,993
Speaker 3: on wrong. I said carry on. It's carry on one

872
00:38:52,994 --> 00:38:55,634
Speaker 3: word like the bag.

873
00:38:55,674 --> 00:38:59,954
Speaker 6: It's a carry on Winton, not carry on, Cape calm

874
00:38:59,994 --> 00:39:00,673
Speaker 6: and carry on.

875
00:39:01,034 --> 00:39:03,194
Speaker 4: It's the action to the read before we Get in trouble.

876
00:39:03,274 --> 00:39:06,473
Speaker 3: Okay, the most nail biting action film the season. Carry On,

877
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Speaker 3: starring Taron Edgerton, Sophia Carson, Jason Bateman, touches down on

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Speaker 3: Netflix on December thirteenth, So three more days, just in

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00:39:21,034 --> 00:39:26,354
Speaker 3: Catch carry On December thirteenth, only on Netflix.

881
00:39:26,794 --> 00:39:28,393
Speaker 4: Okay, you know these things intrigued me.

882
00:39:28,594 --> 00:39:28,834
Speaker 3: Yeah.

883
00:39:29,794 --> 00:39:32,513
Speaker 4: So a carry on that you would carry on to

884
00:39:32,834 --> 00:39:35,234
Speaker 4: an airplane is pronounced differently than carry on.

885
00:39:35,393 --> 00:39:38,314
Speaker 3: Yeah, carry on, So my carry on.

886
00:39:39,194 --> 00:39:42,794
Speaker 4: See carry on, I carry on my bring your carry on.

887
00:39:42,873 --> 00:39:43,913
Speaker 5: I feel like carry on.

888
00:39:44,034 --> 00:39:46,554
Speaker 4: I feel what I'm saying.

889
00:39:46,634 --> 00:39:49,154
Speaker 3: But you just said was wrong. But Paul, you just

890
00:39:49,194 --> 00:39:51,873
Speaker 3: said that's not You didn't use it as a noun,

891
00:39:52,274 --> 00:39:54,314
Speaker 3: used it as a verb. You said, I carry on

892
00:39:54,393 --> 00:39:57,074
Speaker 3: my bag. That's not what it is. It's a carry

893
00:39:57,114 --> 00:39:57,714
Speaker 3: on my back.

894
00:39:57,554 --> 00:39:59,714
Speaker 4: It's my carry on. It's not my carry on. It's

895
00:40:00,354 --> 00:40:03,314
Speaker 4: it's my carry on, my carry on bag, my carry

896
00:40:03,354 --> 00:40:03,714
Speaker 4: on bag.

897
00:40:03,794 --> 00:40:06,274
Speaker 3: Yeah. But but when you say, but when you say

898
00:40:06,314 --> 00:40:09,673
Speaker 3: carry on, I'm not changing carry on, carry on, carry on.

899
00:40:09,594 --> 00:40:12,913
Speaker 4: Carry on, the conversations, my carry on I'm saying it

900
00:40:13,034 --> 00:40:15,874
Speaker 4: the exact putting.

901
00:40:16,194 --> 00:40:20,993
Speaker 3: The carrier, Paul, it's different, Larry listen, carry listen, carry on.

902
00:40:21,274 --> 00:40:24,193
Speaker 3: Carry You put the emphasis on on when it's a verb.

903
00:40:25,433 --> 00:40:28,354
Speaker 4: Okay, on. I don't, but you do.

904
00:40:28,554 --> 00:40:30,473
Speaker 3: You just don't. You want to admit it, but you do.

905
00:40:31,234 --> 00:40:31,994
Speaker 3: You're just being.

906
00:40:31,873 --> 00:40:35,434
Speaker 4: Stubbor the whole thing. That hood I mean, that hood shirt.

907
00:40:35,594 --> 00:40:37,434
Speaker 3: That's why, really stubborn.

908
00:40:37,514 --> 00:40:40,433
Speaker 4: That's why it's getting under your skin. I'm intrigued by

909
00:40:40,473 --> 00:40:42,393
Speaker 4: your your your affects.

910
00:40:42,473 --> 00:40:46,594
Speaker 6: Yeah, well it's this doesn't carry it's.

911
00:40:46,393 --> 00:40:48,874
Speaker 3: A carry a carry on bag, carry on as opposed

912
00:40:48,913 --> 00:40:49,754
Speaker 3: to carry.

913
00:40:49,473 --> 00:40:51,754
Speaker 6: On, a carry on bag, carry on.

914
00:40:52,274 --> 00:40:56,633
Speaker 4: He can't carry on a conversation, keep carrying on, carry on.

915
00:40:56,834 --> 00:40:58,633
Speaker 4: I'm saying it the same, all right.

916
00:40:58,634 --> 00:41:02,954
Speaker 3: Well again, yeah, that's exactly.

917
00:41:03,274 --> 00:41:05,073
Speaker 4: He still insists that he's right about that.

918
00:41:05,154 --> 00:41:13,354
Speaker 3: I am. I am. Our is the same as our No, No.

919
00:41:14,913 --> 00:41:18,033
Speaker 4: Those are two different words, different different things.

920
00:41:18,114 --> 00:41:21,314
Speaker 3: Is it our house or our house, our our house?

921
00:41:21,473 --> 00:41:25,553
Speaker 3: It's our houses, our house, our house. This is our house,

922
00:41:26,154 --> 00:41:30,194
Speaker 3: not our house. This is not our house. That's what

923
00:41:30,234 --> 00:41:33,034
Speaker 3: you're saying. You're saying our house it's our.

924
00:41:32,913 --> 00:41:35,274
Speaker 4: House, or you're saying this.

925
00:41:35,274 --> 00:41:37,274
Speaker 3: Is I said our our house.

926
00:41:38,114 --> 00:41:40,514
Speaker 4: Yeah aar. So you could be stubborn if you're saying

927
00:41:40,594 --> 00:41:42,033
Speaker 4: aar our house.

928
00:41:42,714 --> 00:41:47,873
Speaker 3: The same is our house. It's not too syllables.

929
00:41:48,594 --> 00:41:50,754
Speaker 4: It's not like if you if you look it up,

930
00:41:50,794 --> 00:41:53,314
Speaker 4: it is two syllables. I understand that when you pronounce it,

931
00:41:53,354 --> 00:41:56,314
Speaker 4: you say it quickly, so it sounds like one. But

932
00:41:56,314 --> 00:41:58,434
Speaker 4: if you looked it up in the dictionary, it would okay,

933
00:41:58,433 --> 00:41:59,433
Speaker 4: I think it would give you two.

934
00:41:59,473 --> 00:42:03,153
Speaker 3: All right, all right, anyway, yeah, all right, we're gonna

935
00:42:03,194 --> 00:42:03,914
Speaker 3: have to take a break.

936
00:42:03,913 --> 00:42:07,354
Speaker 4: But you guys think it's okay, like like not okay,

937
00:42:07,354 --> 00:42:09,314
Speaker 4: but you thought you think the college part will be

938
00:42:09,594 --> 00:42:13,234
Speaker 4: Like I'm disappointed. I really thought he was going to

939
00:42:13,274 --> 00:42:13,674
Speaker 4: get a job.

940
00:42:13,754 --> 00:42:15,594
Speaker 6: Well, I'm disappointed to disappointed.

941
00:42:15,674 --> 00:42:16,754
Speaker 4: I thought it would get an NFL.

942
00:42:17,354 --> 00:42:20,314
Speaker 3: Okay, So you could say, well, boy, this must be

943
00:42:20,354 --> 00:42:23,234
Speaker 3: a hit on his pride the fact that no NFL team,

944
00:42:23,473 --> 00:42:26,834
Speaker 3: But also is it him? And I really, I'm a

945
00:42:26,834 --> 00:42:27,714
Speaker 3: football coach.

946
00:42:28,034 --> 00:42:31,474
Speaker 4: I don't know what else to do, So go coach Wesleyan. Okay,

947
00:42:31,634 --> 00:42:35,114
Speaker 4: but you know I heard my boys on my shows

948
00:42:35,194 --> 00:42:37,594
Speaker 4: yesterday and then they you know, like get back to

949
00:42:37,634 --> 00:42:39,154
Speaker 4: your roots. If it's just coaching, you want to do

950
00:42:39,194 --> 00:42:42,234
Speaker 4: it's just all about coaching and go somewhere where you're

951
00:42:42,234 --> 00:42:43,314
Speaker 4: not going to get paid twelve mine.

952
00:42:43,354 --> 00:42:45,194
Speaker 3: Maybe he wants the challenge of building a.

953
00:42:45,154 --> 00:42:47,913
Speaker 4: Program, go to Wesleyan, win the nest cack.

954
00:42:48,114 --> 00:42:50,634
Speaker 3: Okay, you know it's a challenge, A little bit different.

955
00:42:50,953 --> 00:42:54,114
Speaker 4: It's a challenge, is it. I don't know. Is Wesleyan

956
00:42:54,154 --> 00:42:54,834
Speaker 4: good in the next back?

957
00:42:54,953 --> 00:42:55,913
Speaker 3: I know, yeah, I don't.

958
00:42:56,114 --> 00:42:58,274
Speaker 5: I'm glad he's not coaching in the NFL if this

959
00:42:58,354 --> 00:43:00,993
Speaker 5: is what it is, because watching Brady play for the

960
00:43:00,994 --> 00:43:04,434
Speaker 5: Bucks stunk. I hated every minute of that. Like, honestly,

961
00:43:04,433 --> 00:43:07,794
Speaker 5: I couldn't even watch ninety percent of his games playing

962
00:43:07,794 --> 00:43:08,834
Speaker 5: for Tampa.

963
00:43:08,953 --> 00:43:10,194
Speaker 3: I rooted for him. I know.

964
00:43:10,393 --> 00:43:11,913
Speaker 5: It's not that I didn't root for him, but I

965
00:43:11,953 --> 00:43:13,274
Speaker 5: just I just couldn't stomach it.

966
00:43:13,314 --> 00:43:13,714
Speaker 6: I didn't.

967
00:43:13,754 --> 00:43:17,873
Speaker 5: Now, I don't have the same attachment to Bill as

968
00:43:17,913 --> 00:43:21,794
Speaker 5: I do with Brady. But if you went someplace else

969
00:43:21,834 --> 00:43:24,873
Speaker 5: in the NFL and succeeded, we'd never hear the end

970
00:43:24,913 --> 00:43:25,114
Speaker 5: of that.

971
00:43:25,354 --> 00:43:28,513
Speaker 3: Oh no, So I'm kind of glad well in that case. Yeah,

972
00:43:28,674 --> 00:43:32,634
Speaker 3: lets us off the hook. Yeah, all right, I gotta go.

973
00:43:32,754 --> 00:43:34,953
Speaker 3: I'm gonna leave the show in the capable hands of

974
00:43:34,994 --> 00:43:37,873
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975
00:43:37,794 --> 00:43:39,794
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976
00:43:39,873 --> 00:43:42,274
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977
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Speaker 9: Now is Pachase quarterback Drake may Good to see you,

1006
00:45:17,873 --> 00:45:20,714
Speaker 9: my friend, Sarah. Thanks for having me on my pleasure.

1007
00:45:21,354 --> 00:45:23,873
Speaker 9: Describe what it has been like ever since you got here,

1008
00:45:23,913 --> 00:45:26,194
Speaker 9: ever since the day you got afted and then came

1009
00:45:26,234 --> 00:45:28,274
Speaker 9: to New England. Has it been a war win for you?

1010
00:45:28,314 --> 00:45:30,754
Speaker 10: It's been a war win for sure. I think definitely

1011
00:45:30,794 --> 00:45:33,554
Speaker 10: a long process to figure out where you're going, and

1012
00:45:33,994 --> 00:45:36,554
Speaker 10: really I just felt like it's been it's been a blast.

1013
00:45:36,554 --> 00:45:39,953
Speaker 10: I think if that's first, first and foremost, this this

1014
00:45:40,074 --> 00:45:41,953
Speaker 10: patriot way, I think getting used to that, getting used

1015
00:45:41,953 --> 00:45:44,154
Speaker 10: to the culture, getting used to what coach Mayo has

1016
00:45:44,154 --> 00:45:45,634
Speaker 10: done in his first year, what he's done and what

1017
00:45:45,674 --> 00:45:47,754
Speaker 10: he's kind of trying to create and just for these players.

1018
00:45:47,794 --> 00:45:49,354
Speaker 10: You got a lot of veteran guys and kind of

1019
00:45:49,354 --> 00:45:51,433
Speaker 10: mixed with a young group, so it's trying to mix

1020
00:45:51,473 --> 00:45:54,674
Speaker 10: it in and come and do my part. And I

1021
00:45:54,714 --> 00:45:57,274
Speaker 10: think that's been a you know, adjustment for sure from college.

1022
00:45:57,314 --> 00:45:58,593
Speaker 10: But I think at the same time, we've got something

1023
00:45:58,594 --> 00:46:00,714
Speaker 10: to look forward here for the Patriots in the future

1024
00:46:00,754 --> 00:46:02,473
Speaker 10: and looking forward to seeing what that's like.

1025
00:46:02,754 --> 00:46:05,913
Speaker 9: What has been the biggest surprise making a jump now

1026
00:46:05,953 --> 00:46:08,634
Speaker 9: that you're here, What didn't you expect?

1027
00:46:09,074 --> 00:46:10,714
Speaker 10: I just think this is my job, Like this is

1028
00:46:10,794 --> 00:46:12,914
Speaker 10: you know, every day and no more going to school,

1029
00:46:12,994 --> 00:46:14,553
Speaker 10: you know what nomore, This is schools over. This is

1030
00:46:14,594 --> 00:46:16,154
Speaker 10: what I do for, you know, for a living. I

1031
00:46:16,154 --> 00:46:18,354
Speaker 10: think that's kind of had been an adjustment, but just

1032
00:46:18,393 --> 00:46:20,593
Speaker 10: kind of a realization that this is what I do.

1033
00:46:20,714 --> 00:46:22,074
Speaker 10: You know, this is all I got to worry about.

1034
00:46:22,074 --> 00:46:23,913
Speaker 10: You know, I'm living by myself up here, and you

1035
00:46:23,953 --> 00:46:25,274
Speaker 10: know it's the kind of playing ball and play in

1036
00:46:25,314 --> 00:46:27,913
Speaker 10: quarback for the Newington Patriots is basically all I got

1037
00:46:27,913 --> 00:46:27,993
Speaker 10: to do.

1038
00:46:28,274 --> 00:46:30,474
Speaker 9: You've played eight games so far. Do you still feel

1039
00:46:30,514 --> 00:46:31,354
Speaker 9: like you're a rookie?

1040
00:46:31,953 --> 00:46:32,314
Speaker 3: No doubt.

1041
00:46:32,354 --> 00:46:33,993
Speaker 10: I think definitely times out there, I still fel like

1042
00:46:33,994 --> 00:46:37,154
Speaker 10: a rookie. I think he knows it's benefits having you know,

1043
00:46:37,154 --> 00:46:39,754
Speaker 10: guys like Hunter, Hunter, Henry and even more guys that

1044
00:46:39,834 --> 00:46:41,953
Speaker 10: May plays and have May played in this league out

1045
00:46:41,994 --> 00:46:43,513
Speaker 10: there with me and Big Mic up front. So I

1046
00:46:43,554 --> 00:46:45,314
Speaker 10: think it's been been awesome having guys, you know on

1047
00:46:45,354 --> 00:46:48,114
Speaker 10: the offense that have you know, May plays and May

1048
00:46:48,114 --> 00:46:50,513
Speaker 10: plays in Patriots uniforms and that other places that have

1049
00:46:50,634 --> 00:46:52,114
Speaker 10: kind of helped brought me along. And it's been awesome.

1050
00:46:52,114 --> 00:46:55,114
Speaker 10: With Jacobe, he's been, he's been, he's been the best,

1051
00:46:55,154 --> 00:46:56,473
Speaker 10: you know, one of the best teammates that I've ever

1052
00:46:56,473 --> 00:46:58,754
Speaker 10: been around, and just a mentor to me and you know,

1053
00:46:58,834 --> 00:47:00,433
Speaker 10: learning how to study the calls, feet and how to

1054
00:47:00,433 --> 00:47:02,913
Speaker 10: be a quarterback and you know, responsibility comes with being

1055
00:47:02,913 --> 00:47:04,913
Speaker 10: the quarterback of the newingtonand Patriots. You know obviously here

1056
00:47:04,913 --> 00:47:06,794
Speaker 10: before and knows what that was like. So it's been

1057
00:47:06,834 --> 00:47:07,474
Speaker 10: it's been a blast.

1058
00:47:07,514 --> 00:47:09,393
Speaker 9: You know, you mentioned Jacoby, and I did want to

1059
00:47:09,393 --> 00:47:12,393
Speaker 9: bring him up because you took his job right, But

1060
00:47:12,473 --> 00:47:16,553
Speaker 9: you guys have had that bond and that friendship described.

1061
00:47:15,953 --> 00:47:18,193
Speaker 10: That I think it's just from the from the first

1062
00:47:18,194 --> 00:47:20,433
Speaker 10: time that I was announced as starter. He came in

1063
00:47:20,473 --> 00:47:22,634
Speaker 10: and said, hey, Drake, you know this is part of it,

1064
00:47:22,714 --> 00:47:24,154
Speaker 10: and you know it's not gonna make this awkward. I

1065
00:47:24,154 --> 00:47:26,433
Speaker 10: think kind of from moment on and he kind of knew,

1066
00:47:26,514 --> 00:47:28,473
Speaker 10: you know what type of you know, Timmate he was.

1067
00:47:28,514 --> 00:47:29,953
Speaker 10: And not only that he came in, you know, with

1068
00:47:29,953 --> 00:47:32,074
Speaker 10: the Jets came for instance, and you know, his opportunity

1069
00:47:32,114 --> 00:47:34,513
Speaker 10: came when we got knocked out and ended up winning

1070
00:47:34,514 --> 00:47:35,794
Speaker 10: the ball game for us. So I think it was

1071
00:47:36,034 --> 00:47:39,194
Speaker 10: just testament to him, testament to I think just our

1072
00:47:39,274 --> 00:47:41,113
Speaker 10: quarterback room kind of we try to we always try

1073
00:47:41,114 --> 00:47:42,953
Speaker 10: to keep the vibes up. I think you know a

1074
00:47:42,994 --> 00:47:45,074
Speaker 10: lot of quarterback rooms out there you don't want, you know,

1075
00:47:45,074 --> 00:47:47,953
Speaker 10: any awkwardness or kind a hostitity. I think that's uh,

1076
00:47:47,994 --> 00:47:49,354
Speaker 10: that's been the best thing about you know, having me

1077
00:47:49,354 --> 00:47:51,633
Speaker 10: and Jacoby and and and Joe and there we we're

1078
00:47:51,674 --> 00:47:53,234
Speaker 10: cheering for each other, we're pulling for each other, and

1079
00:47:53,473 --> 00:47:55,314
Speaker 10: kind of see Jacobe on the sideline now with yelling

1080
00:47:55,314 --> 00:47:57,473
Speaker 10: at the refs and doing all that stuff, fighting for you,

1081
00:47:57,554 --> 00:47:59,393
Speaker 10: yelling at me to probably change the play at some time.

1082
00:47:59,514 --> 00:48:01,234
Speaker 10: So he's been he's been awesome.

1083
00:48:01,554 --> 00:48:04,953
Speaker 9: Hey, Larry Bird, said that at the end of each year,

1084
00:48:05,314 --> 00:48:07,354
Speaker 9: there's one thing I need to work on. If there's

1085
00:48:07,393 --> 00:48:09,513
Speaker 9: one thing you need to work on once the season's over,

1086
00:48:09,873 --> 00:48:10,513
Speaker 9: what would it be.

1087
00:48:11,834 --> 00:48:13,514
Speaker 10: I think, just still start trying to learn football.

1088
00:48:13,554 --> 00:48:15,194
Speaker 5: You know, how to learn even though you played it

1089
00:48:15,234 --> 00:48:15,834
Speaker 5: all your coverages?

1090
00:48:15,913 --> 00:48:16,794
Speaker 4: Yeah, learn coverages.

1091
00:48:16,873 --> 00:48:18,594
Speaker 10: Learn you know how these defense are trying to attack me,

1092
00:48:18,674 --> 00:48:21,554
Speaker 10: or how they're trying to, you know, handle us offensively.

1093
00:48:21,913 --> 00:48:23,953
Speaker 10: Just still learning more about you know, what they're doing

1094
00:48:23,953 --> 00:48:25,834
Speaker 10: on the other side of the ball. Only help me.

1095
00:48:26,953 --> 00:48:28,913
Speaker 10: You'll get to get the checks down faster, get the

1096
00:48:28,913 --> 00:48:31,393
Speaker 10: hot routes faster, get to get in and out of

1097
00:48:31,393 --> 00:48:33,074
Speaker 10: plays faster. I think that will all help you know,

1098
00:48:33,114 --> 00:48:34,314
Speaker 10: down the road. I don't think you know, it's hard

1099
00:48:34,354 --> 00:48:36,033
Speaker 10: to pinpoint that right now in season, but I think

1100
00:48:36,074 --> 00:48:38,194
Speaker 10: after the season, I think that could be something that

1101
00:48:38,234 --> 00:48:39,594
Speaker 10: you always trying to improve as a quarterback.

1102
00:48:39,674 --> 00:48:41,314
Speaker 9: I joke about this with you, but tell me about

1103
00:48:41,354 --> 00:48:41,754
Speaker 9: your accent.

1104
00:48:42,274 --> 00:48:43,474
Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit down south.

1105
00:48:43,594 --> 00:48:45,034
Speaker 4: You know, people will always say.

1106
00:48:44,873 --> 00:48:47,274
Speaker 9: And when you're call him plays huddle, Yeah exactly.

1107
00:48:47,714 --> 00:48:48,354
Speaker 4: I talk fast.

1108
00:48:48,393 --> 00:48:50,114
Speaker 10: I can probably sit here, you know, listen to me

1109
00:48:50,154 --> 00:48:52,794
Speaker 10: talk now, and I talk real fast. And unfortunately my

1110
00:48:52,834 --> 00:48:54,953
Speaker 10: dad's got to stutter problem. So he passed that down

1111
00:48:54,994 --> 00:48:56,673
Speaker 10: to me and hopefully it isn't too bad yet.

1112
00:48:56,714 --> 00:48:57,913
Speaker 9: But no, it's not bad at home.

1113
00:48:57,994 --> 00:48:59,993
Speaker 10: I think those guys, you know, I think they understand me. Okay,

1114
00:49:00,314 --> 00:49:03,154
Speaker 10: sometimes I talk fast, but uh that I think in

1115
00:49:03,194 --> 00:49:05,034
Speaker 10: the place, you know, in the huddle, it's it's important.

1116
00:49:05,194 --> 00:49:07,873
Speaker 10: I think Coach Mayo preaches every good place or the

1117
00:49:07,873 --> 00:49:11,154
Speaker 10: good huddle, and you know, kind of got taking that

1118
00:49:11,194 --> 00:49:13,274
Speaker 10: and and then realize that that's that's true. I think,

1119
00:49:13,314 --> 00:49:14,953
Speaker 10: you know, a good play call and something is as

1120
00:49:14,994 --> 00:49:16,754
Speaker 10: little as you know, getting the play out right and

1121
00:49:17,034 --> 00:49:19,314
Speaker 10: making sure guys that are lined up and just the confidence.

1122
00:49:19,314 --> 00:49:20,714
Speaker 10: To me, I think it builds a confidence you know,

1123
00:49:20,794 --> 00:49:22,714
Speaker 10: with a good break and I think that goes a

1124
00:49:22,714 --> 00:49:23,073
Speaker 10: long way.

1125
00:49:23,473 --> 00:49:25,954
Speaker 9: You've impressed a lot of people. And the short amount

1126
00:49:25,994 --> 00:49:29,234
Speaker 9: of time that you've been here, do you hear that noise?

1127
00:49:30,074 --> 00:49:32,114
Speaker 9: And when you hear it, how does it affect you?

1128
00:49:33,554 --> 00:49:34,594
Speaker 3: Mm hm, I appreciate.

1129
00:49:34,674 --> 00:49:36,234
Speaker 10: I think the biggest time that I hear is at

1130
00:49:36,234 --> 00:49:38,834
Speaker 10: the games. I think the fans are awesome. The fans

1131
00:49:38,834 --> 00:49:40,154
Speaker 10: are a big time. Even in that way games you

1132
00:49:40,154 --> 00:49:42,314
Speaker 10: see a lot of Patriots Patriots fans all across the country.

1133
00:49:42,473 --> 00:49:43,874
Speaker 10: You know, some of the best fans in the NFL,

1134
00:49:43,913 --> 00:49:46,314
Speaker 10: and I think you know, hearing that, I think, just

1135
00:49:47,354 --> 00:49:49,354
Speaker 10: you know, don't get you know, on on your high horse.

1136
00:49:49,393 --> 00:49:51,274
Speaker 10: Don't get to I don't do too low and realize that,

1137
00:49:51,354 --> 00:49:52,953
Speaker 10: you know. I think these you know what, you know,

1138
00:49:52,994 --> 00:49:54,794
Speaker 10: my playoffs to turn in some wins at some point.

1139
00:49:54,873 --> 00:49:56,994
Speaker 10: And I think that's the biggest thing for a quarterback

1140
00:49:57,074 --> 00:49:58,834
Speaker 10: is is judging, you know, how many wins they got

1141
00:49:58,873 --> 00:50:01,274
Speaker 10: in the wind call. So we need to do that part.

1142
00:50:01,473 --> 00:50:03,553
Speaker 9: You mentioned the fans. Is it fun knowing that the

1143
00:50:03,594 --> 00:50:05,274
Speaker 9: fans really support Drake May?

1144
00:50:05,433 --> 00:50:07,393
Speaker 10: I think it's awesome. Anytime the fan base is behind you,

1145
00:50:07,554 --> 00:50:10,953
Speaker 10: I think it's it's it's a good feeling. And like

1146
00:50:10,953 --> 00:50:13,154
Speaker 10: I said earlier, the responsibility of being only the Patriots

1147
00:50:13,234 --> 00:50:15,473
Speaker 10: quarterback comes with a lot. So you want, you know,

1148
00:50:15,634 --> 00:50:17,594
Speaker 10: you want them to have your back and you want to,

1149
00:50:17,634 --> 00:50:19,074
Speaker 10: you know, put out your best product for them.

1150
00:50:19,194 --> 00:50:21,913
Speaker 9: How much pressure is there on you knowing that you

1151
00:50:21,953 --> 00:50:24,674
Speaker 9: are the face of the franchise and do you welcome

1152
00:50:24,674 --> 00:50:25,674
Speaker 9: in I wouldn't.

1153
00:50:25,794 --> 00:50:27,274
Speaker 10: I wouldn't call it, you know, pressure. I think it's

1154
00:50:27,274 --> 00:50:28,714
Speaker 10: a privilege. I think it's a privilege. You know, I

1155
00:50:28,754 --> 00:50:31,034
Speaker 10: think you work your whole life to get to this moment,

1156
00:50:31,194 --> 00:50:33,393
Speaker 10: and I think once this moment comes, I don't think

1157
00:50:33,433 --> 00:50:35,074
Speaker 10: you should lose sight of the fact that this is

1158
00:50:35,074 --> 00:50:37,554
Speaker 10: what you dreamed about and dreamed about playing the NFL.

1159
00:50:37,594 --> 00:50:39,553
Speaker 10: And I think having that pressure, I think you turn

1160
00:50:39,594 --> 00:50:41,513
Speaker 10: into a privilege and hopefully get this thing, get this

1161
00:50:41,554 --> 00:50:42,033
Speaker 10: thing rolling.

1162
00:50:42,514 --> 00:50:46,033
Speaker 9: You're a rookie, but you're a quarterback, just got here.

1163
00:50:47,754 --> 00:50:50,393
Speaker 9: How do you show your leadership skills even though you're young.

1164
00:50:50,794 --> 00:50:52,314
Speaker 9: You know what I'm saying. When you take over in

1165
00:50:52,393 --> 00:50:54,433
Speaker 9: that huddle, people are looking at you.

1166
00:50:54,674 --> 00:50:55,073
Speaker 3: Yees, sir.

1167
00:50:55,074 --> 00:50:55,594
Speaker 4: That was a battle.

1168
00:50:55,594 --> 00:50:57,354
Speaker 10: That was a battle early on, you know, trying to

1169
00:50:57,554 --> 00:50:59,794
Speaker 10: you know, judge the fact of I'm a twenty two

1170
00:50:59,873 --> 00:51:01,714
Speaker 10: year old probably you know, one of the youngest starting

1171
00:51:01,794 --> 00:51:03,953
Speaker 10: quarterback in the NFL now, But I got to lead

1172
00:51:04,074 --> 00:51:06,354
Speaker 10: you know, this, this offense and this team, you know,

1173
00:51:06,393 --> 00:51:09,513
Speaker 10: with thirty and you know, high twenty year old you

1174
00:51:09,514 --> 00:51:12,194
Speaker 10: know dudes, and I think I think they've respected. I

1175
00:51:12,194 --> 00:51:14,274
Speaker 10: think coming here and just work, you know, work hard

1176
00:51:14,114 --> 00:51:15,993
Speaker 10: and prove them. Hey, youn't want to be some hot

1177
00:51:15,994 --> 00:51:18,513
Speaker 10: shot rookie coming in as the top you know, one

1178
00:51:18,594 --> 00:51:21,553
Speaker 10: top overall picks you know, trying to you know, stay show,

1179
00:51:21,594 --> 00:51:23,993
Speaker 10: voting around. I think coming to work. I think that's

1180
00:51:24,074 --> 00:51:26,193
Speaker 10: kind of the Patriot model. You know, hard work works

1181
00:51:26,314 --> 00:51:28,593
Speaker 10: what coach Mao preaches, and I try to take that,

1182
00:51:29,074 --> 00:51:31,393
Speaker 10: take that motto and use my advantage of earned the

1183
00:51:31,393 --> 00:51:34,033
Speaker 10: guys respect and then from there create kind of your

1184
00:51:34,034 --> 00:51:35,834
Speaker 10: own relationships with the guys. And I think you can

1185
00:51:35,994 --> 00:51:37,834
Speaker 10: kind of reach each guy differently, you know, based on

1186
00:51:38,074 --> 00:51:40,033
Speaker 10: your relationship and kind of earn their respect. And then

1187
00:51:40,554 --> 00:51:42,114
Speaker 10: as more and more goes on, I think you kind

1188
00:51:42,154 --> 00:51:44,714
Speaker 10: of lead and kind of speak more and talk more

1189
00:51:44,714 --> 00:51:46,953
Speaker 10: in the huddle and talk more in meeting rooms. A

1190
00:51:46,953 --> 00:51:47,714
Speaker 10: little things like that.

1191
00:51:47,873 --> 00:51:50,314
Speaker 9: I love your demeanor. I love the poise that you have.

1192
00:51:50,953 --> 00:51:52,594
Speaker 9: You know you have. There's a calmness about you on

1193
00:51:52,594 --> 00:51:54,594
Speaker 9: the football field. Even when things go wrong, you have

1194
00:51:54,834 --> 00:51:59,553
Speaker 9: tendency to settle things down. There's also a leniency, leniency

1195
00:51:59,594 --> 00:52:02,754
Speaker 9: that people have because you're a rookie. But when you

1196
00:52:02,754 --> 00:52:04,314
Speaker 9: look at the coaching staff, do you want the coaches

1197
00:52:04,354 --> 00:52:06,473
Speaker 9: to be hard on you? Do you expect that?

1198
00:52:06,953 --> 00:52:08,673
Speaker 10: I think you expect to be you know, coach TRD,

1199
00:52:08,714 --> 00:52:10,153
Speaker 10: I think that's what you want, That's what you want

1200
00:52:10,154 --> 00:52:12,114
Speaker 10: in you know, any player you know, no matter you

1201
00:52:12,154 --> 00:52:15,473
Speaker 10: know how great or how many, how much success you've had,

1202
00:52:15,514 --> 00:52:16,633
Speaker 10: do you want to be coach tard? Do you want

1203
00:52:16,634 --> 00:52:18,393
Speaker 10: to be tree to like all the other guys in

1204
00:52:18,433 --> 00:52:21,194
Speaker 10: the locker room, no matter what position. I think you know,

1205
00:52:21,234 --> 00:52:22,714
Speaker 10: for a quarterback, I think you need to be met

1206
00:52:22,714 --> 00:52:23,674
Speaker 10: probably coach the hardest.

1207
00:52:23,714 --> 00:52:24,514
Speaker 4: I think that's what.

1208
00:52:24,634 --> 00:52:27,034
Speaker 10: My dad kind of uh at a young agent stilled

1209
00:52:27,074 --> 00:52:30,074
Speaker 10: and me and my brothers. You know, he was mostly

1210
00:52:30,074 --> 00:52:31,873
Speaker 10: our coaches growing up in U sports, and he coached

1211
00:52:31,913 --> 00:52:33,834
Speaker 10: us harder than you know, the other kids. And you

1212
00:52:33,873 --> 00:52:36,234
Speaker 10: respected that from from my dad and kind of tasks, Hey,

1213
00:52:36,274 --> 00:52:38,593
Speaker 10: this is a part of it's on you. I'm thinking

1214
00:52:38,634 --> 00:52:40,553
Speaker 10: of the pressure, Like you mentioned the pressure earlier, the

1215
00:52:40,594 --> 00:52:43,073
Speaker 10: pressures you're on you. So I think it's your time

1216
00:52:43,114 --> 00:52:45,033
Speaker 10: to you'll be confident in yourself and and trust your

1217
00:52:45,034 --> 00:52:46,234
Speaker 10: teamates and coaches around you.

1218
00:52:46,714 --> 00:52:49,754
Speaker 9: Last question, if you could go back over the past,

1219
00:52:50,234 --> 00:52:52,993
Speaker 9: all the football players that you grew up watching, if

1220
00:52:52,994 --> 00:52:56,033
Speaker 9: you could throw a touchdown pass to one receiver, who

1221
00:52:56,034 --> 00:52:56,553
Speaker 9: would you pick?

1222
00:52:56,794 --> 00:53:00,154
Speaker 10: M I grew up a Panthers friend, and me and

1223
00:53:00,234 --> 00:53:02,074
Speaker 10: my me and my older brothers love Steve Smith, So

1224
00:53:02,074 --> 00:53:04,913
Speaker 10: I'll probably say Steve Smith. He's a great watching him

1225
00:53:04,953 --> 00:53:07,314
Speaker 10: and Ice up Son and his whole model was pretty.

1226
00:53:07,034 --> 00:53:07,633
Speaker 3: Cool growing up.

1227
00:53:08,274 --> 00:53:10,633
Speaker 9: Enjoyed it, bye week, Appreciate it, Yes, yes, sir.

1228
00:53:12,873 --> 00:53:14,953
Speaker 4: And now great moments in.

1229
00:53:17,234 --> 00:53:20,193
Speaker 3: History. A lot of emails coming in at web radio

1230
00:53:20,433 --> 00:53:23,913
Speaker 3: Patriots dot com. That's web radio at Patriots dot com. Eric,

1231
00:53:23,953 --> 00:53:24,794
Speaker 3: that's enough from.

1232
00:53:24,634 --> 00:53:28,674
Speaker 4: You, that's our sting, that's our feelings.

1233
00:53:28,794 --> 00:53:29,194
Speaker 3: It spread.

1234
00:53:29,194 --> 00:53:31,794
Speaker 4: He really is a minute, Wait a minute, wait a minute.

1235
00:53:31,794 --> 00:53:34,314
Speaker 4: We've been saying so read some for years on this show.

1236
00:53:34,393 --> 00:53:36,674
Speaker 4: That's not pre thing. He wouldn't have said that if

1237
00:53:36,674 --> 00:53:38,074
Speaker 4: he wasn't very good about himself.

1238
00:53:38,834 --> 00:53:39,713
Speaker 5: I say it every show.

1239
00:53:39,834 --> 00:53:40,954
Speaker 4: It's Cam Newton.

1240
00:53:41,953 --> 00:53:43,794
Speaker 5: You look at me and give me the nod whenever

1241
00:53:43,834 --> 00:53:45,593
Speaker 5: he says that, so that I can say that line.

1242
00:53:45,714 --> 00:53:46,234
Speaker 6: Not today.

1243
00:53:46,354 --> 00:53:48,594
Speaker 4: So who's going to take more credit? Andy Hart?

1244
00:53:50,034 --> 00:53:50,154
Speaker 11: Uh?

1245
00:53:50,514 --> 00:53:53,473
Speaker 4: There our buddies Phil Perry and Tom Curran who are

1246
00:53:53,594 --> 00:53:58,593
Speaker 4: making the rounds already. Eric, Who's who flexes best? Because

1247
00:53:58,634 --> 00:54:00,993
Speaker 4: these guys were at the forefront of the well and

1248
00:54:01,194 --> 00:54:04,393
Speaker 4: Mac express Andy flex's best. It'll be the most obnoxious

1249
00:54:04,433 --> 00:54:06,473
Speaker 4: about it. Well, he flexes most, that's for sure.

1250
00:54:06,714 --> 00:54:12,033
Speaker 2: That's another great moment from all right.

1251
00:54:12,074 --> 00:54:14,074
Speaker 6: It's easy to drink easy to enjoy bud Light, the

1252
00:54:14,074 --> 00:54:16,873
Speaker 6: official beer sponsor of the New England Patriots. Welcome back

1253
00:54:16,913 --> 00:54:18,794
Speaker 6: to hour two. And that's right, folks, Deuce is in

1254
00:54:18,834 --> 00:54:20,394
Speaker 6: the host seat. We're going off the rails.

1255
00:54:20,433 --> 00:54:23,034
Speaker 4: No, Fred, we don't know. We're going to be fast

1256
00:54:23,034 --> 00:54:24,594
Speaker 4: and loose. You don't know what could happen in the

1257
00:54:24,674 --> 00:54:25,193
Speaker 4: last hollar.

1258
00:54:25,234 --> 00:54:26,593
Speaker 6: Don't know what I'm gonna say, but I hope I'll

1259
00:54:26,594 --> 00:54:30,113
Speaker 6: get in trouble. That's all I know. Now we're gonna

1260
00:54:30,114 --> 00:54:32,194
Speaker 6: have some some fun. We obviously we talked a lot

1261
00:54:32,234 --> 00:54:34,194
Speaker 6: about Bill would love to hear from you, guys. Give

1262
00:54:34,274 --> 00:54:37,393
Speaker 6: us a call on the TPX hotline, which is eight

1263
00:54:37,433 --> 00:54:39,794
Speaker 6: five to five, Pats five hundred. Shoot us an email,

1264
00:54:40,433 --> 00:54:45,194
Speaker 6: Patriot what is it? Web radio at Pictures, Podcasts at

1265
00:54:45,274 --> 00:54:47,873
Speaker 6: Patriots dot com. It's been a while. The Deuceman is

1266
00:54:47,913 --> 00:54:50,914
Speaker 6: hosted Michael. But I'm feeling good. I'm feeling refreshed.

1267
00:54:50,913 --> 00:54:51,633
Speaker 4: How was your bye week?

1268
00:54:51,634 --> 00:54:51,873
Speaker 3: Guys?

1269
00:54:51,873 --> 00:54:52,714
Speaker 6: We didn't have any.

1270
00:54:52,674 --> 00:54:55,994
Speaker 5: Personal catch up times anecdotes. Have an anecdotal anecdote.

1271
00:54:55,994 --> 00:54:56,714
Speaker 6: Watch some football?

1272
00:54:56,714 --> 00:55:00,354
Speaker 4: How was that was your I enjoyed the red Zone Sunday. Yeah,

1273
00:55:01,034 --> 00:55:03,834
Speaker 4: you know, some good games and yeah, I was like

1274
00:55:03,873 --> 00:55:06,873
Speaker 4: everybody else. I was, you know, intrigued by the shootout

1275
00:55:06,953 --> 00:55:11,954
Speaker 4: with the ROMs and the Bills. I really do feel

1276
00:55:11,994 --> 00:55:14,994
Speaker 4: like I might need to provide a service on clock management,

1277
00:55:15,034 --> 00:55:17,834
Speaker 4: though you might. There's stuff that just drives me crazy.

1278
00:55:18,393 --> 00:55:20,393
Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys caught the end of

1279
00:55:20,433 --> 00:55:22,114
Speaker 4: the Jets and Dolphins.

1280
00:55:22,194 --> 00:55:22,433
Speaker 3: I did.

1281
00:55:22,433 --> 00:55:23,634
Speaker 6: I watched. I did watch the end of that.

1282
00:55:23,674 --> 00:55:25,554
Speaker 4: Actually, So what was the major mistake the end of

1283
00:55:25,634 --> 00:55:26,953
Speaker 4: regulation that the Jets made.

1284
00:55:27,634 --> 00:55:30,114
Speaker 6: I'm blaring watch a few is that what it was?

1285
00:55:31,594 --> 00:55:34,314
Speaker 4: It's third and like they got backed up. I think

1286
00:55:34,354 --> 00:55:36,834
Speaker 4: they I think they got sacked and had a penalty

1287
00:55:36,913 --> 00:55:38,754
Speaker 4: or whatever. It was third and like eighteen or something

1288
00:55:38,754 --> 00:55:41,114
Speaker 4: like that. They were on the edge of field goal

1289
00:55:41,274 --> 00:55:44,354
Speaker 4: range long field goal. If they didn't get a yard,

1290
00:55:46,114 --> 00:55:48,593
Speaker 4: the Dolphins are out of timeouts. You got like a

1291
00:55:48,634 --> 00:55:53,474
Speaker 4: minute left, run the ball, get four or five yards.

1292
00:55:53,554 --> 00:55:57,073
Speaker 4: If you throw it a screen that the guy and

1293
00:55:57,234 --> 00:55:59,994
Speaker 4: the guy is told under no uncertain terms, you stay

1294
00:55:59,994 --> 00:56:03,953
Speaker 4: in bounds. You cannot allow the clock to stop. They

1295
00:56:03,994 --> 00:56:07,674
Speaker 4: throw like a maybe an eight ten yard out. Was

1296
00:56:07,714 --> 00:56:12,154
Speaker 4: it a back shoulder fade to DeVante Adams catches, it

1297
00:56:12,154 --> 00:56:15,834
Speaker 4: goes out of bounds. This allows the Dolphins to then

1298
00:56:16,514 --> 00:56:18,474
Speaker 4: allow the field goal and then go down the field

1299
00:56:18,514 --> 00:56:20,714
Speaker 4: and tie the game with a field goal, you know,

1300
00:56:20,994 --> 00:56:24,114
Speaker 4: helped by a good kick return, which is another mistake.

1301
00:56:24,234 --> 00:56:26,673
Speaker 4: Just just boot the ball out of the end zone

1302
00:56:26,674 --> 00:56:28,714
Speaker 4: and give them the ball to thirty. I don't know

1303
00:56:28,834 --> 00:56:32,674
Speaker 4: how this suddenly because of the Chiefs thing. The kickoff

1304
00:56:32,674 --> 00:56:35,473
Speaker 4: thing is a different thing, but anyway, they should have

1305
00:56:35,514 --> 00:56:37,953
Speaker 4: just made sure the clock continue to run that way

1306
00:56:37,953 --> 00:56:39,993
Speaker 4: they're gonna be. They had an opportunity to run the

1307
00:56:40,034 --> 00:56:42,714
Speaker 4: clock down I would say under fifteen seconds.

1308
00:56:42,873 --> 00:56:43,794
Speaker 5: It was twelve seconds.

1309
00:56:43,794 --> 00:56:46,473
Speaker 4: Somebody did to kick the field goal that way. Even

1310
00:56:46,514 --> 00:56:50,234
Speaker 4: if you miss it, well, there's ten seconds left now.

1311
00:56:50,274 --> 00:56:51,754
Speaker 4: So if there was twelve seconds when they kick the

1312
00:56:51,754 --> 00:56:53,473
Speaker 4: field goal, field goal is going to take at least

1313
00:56:53,473 --> 00:56:55,834
Speaker 4: a couple seconds off the clock. So the Dolphins get

1314
00:56:55,834 --> 00:57:00,593
Speaker 4: a hail Mary. Yeah, you know, just dumb, really really dumb.

1315
00:57:00,754 --> 00:57:04,473
Speaker 4: The kickoff thing is starting to bother me because Buffalo

1316
00:57:04,794 --> 00:57:07,714
Speaker 4: did that in Kansas City and the playoffs. They just

1317
00:57:07,754 --> 00:57:10,474
Speaker 4: did the touchback and everybody killed him for it. Remember,

1318
00:57:10,714 --> 00:57:13,154
Speaker 4: well a lot a couple more seconds is that really worth?

1319
00:57:14,194 --> 00:57:17,593
Speaker 4: Like the opportunity that the Dolphins had to run to

1320
00:57:17,634 --> 00:57:20,354
Speaker 4: return the kick to about midfield. Is that worth running

1321
00:57:20,394 --> 00:57:24,154
Speaker 4: the seconds off giving up potentially twenty twenty five yards.

1322
00:57:24,714 --> 00:57:27,074
Speaker 5: I think you need to know your opponent, right, Like

1323
00:57:27,114 --> 00:57:30,594
Speaker 5: the Dolphins have explosive players all over the place, like

1324
00:57:30,674 --> 00:57:34,074
Speaker 5: Lake Washington is basically like a light version of Tyreek

1325
00:57:34,114 --> 00:57:37,394
Speaker 5: Kill and Jalen Waddle. So you give those guys opportunities

1326
00:57:37,434 --> 00:57:40,754
Speaker 5: to return the ball there maybe against another team that

1327
00:57:40,794 --> 00:57:43,554
Speaker 5: doesn't have an electric returner. He's one of the better

1328
00:57:43,594 --> 00:57:44,834
Speaker 5: returners in the league.

1329
00:57:44,954 --> 00:57:46,634
Speaker 4: Anyway, that was one game that really stood up.

1330
00:57:46,674 --> 00:57:49,034
Speaker 6: I thought you were going to say the Bills trying

1331
00:57:49,074 --> 00:57:51,194
Speaker 6: to sneak it. Then I thought that was so.

1332
00:57:51,354 --> 00:57:54,074
Speaker 4: That was a dumb play too. But that wasn't necessarily

1333
00:57:54,074 --> 00:57:59,274
Speaker 4: a clock management. It was a dumb play call. This

1334
00:57:59,354 --> 00:58:02,354
Speaker 4: is this is good. You open up, open up can

1335
00:58:02,354 --> 00:58:05,954
Speaker 4: of worms, and I like those. He likes me. I

1336
00:58:05,994 --> 00:58:09,154
Speaker 4: do because these are the things that interest me. So

1337
00:58:09,234 --> 00:58:13,234
Speaker 4: the analytics people, yes, right, Hi, So they ran me.

1338
00:58:13,434 --> 00:58:17,234
Speaker 4: They ran four quarterback sneaks in that game from the

1339
00:58:17,234 --> 00:58:20,634
Speaker 4: one yard line. They scored touchdowns on three of them.

1340
00:58:20,634 --> 00:58:22,674
Speaker 4: So the analytics people will tell you next week. I

1341
00:58:22,674 --> 00:58:24,634
Speaker 4: have when we when we decide whether or not what

1342
00:58:24,714 --> 00:58:27,514
Speaker 4: we want to do seventy five percent chance where you

1343
00:58:27,554 --> 00:58:32,594
Speaker 4: get a touchdown. It doesn't take into consideration clock situation.

1344
00:58:33,474 --> 00:58:36,114
Speaker 4: When you get stopped, you ended the game. So the

1345
00:58:36,154 --> 00:58:39,994
Speaker 4: only thing that Brady has said live right at the

1346
00:58:40,034 --> 00:58:42,994
Speaker 4: time that had any relevance whatsoever in his thirteen weeks

1347
00:58:43,034 --> 00:58:45,434
Speaker 4: as a color analyst, they just lost it. As soon

1348
00:58:45,434 --> 00:58:47,474
Speaker 4: as it happened, he was on it and said they

1349
00:58:47,514 --> 00:58:50,994
Speaker 4: may have just lost the game because he left open

1350
00:58:51,034 --> 00:58:55,314
Speaker 4: the possibility that they could recover the on side kick. Dumb, dumb,

1351
00:58:55,474 --> 00:59:00,394
Speaker 4: dumb play call. If you put yourself in this either

1352
00:59:00,514 --> 00:59:03,154
Speaker 4: that if they want to run that quarterback sneak, you

1353
00:59:03,234 --> 00:59:05,474
Speaker 4: have to do so prepared that if we don't get

1354
00:59:05,514 --> 00:59:08,234
Speaker 4: in for whatever reason, we're rushing to the line and

1355
00:59:08,314 --> 00:59:12,914
Speaker 4: running it again. You cannot take the time out because

1356
00:59:13,114 --> 00:59:15,314
Speaker 4: because now you've lost the opportunity to get the ball

1357
00:59:15,354 --> 00:59:18,794
Speaker 4: back unless you get a fluke on sidekick. So I

1358
00:59:18,834 --> 00:59:21,194
Speaker 4: agree with everybody that's been killing ra for that one.

1359
00:59:21,714 --> 00:59:25,114
Speaker 5: It's a tough one with McDermott because they're a wagon,

1360
00:59:25,234 --> 00:59:27,194
Speaker 5: I mean most of the time, and they're what ten

1361
00:59:27,234 --> 00:59:29,914
Speaker 5: and three the bills, and it's hard to fire a

1362
00:59:29,954 --> 00:59:35,394
Speaker 5: coach that has you five straight division titles. Ten plus

1363
00:59:35,434 --> 00:59:38,274
Speaker 5: wins every single year. But it just doesn't feel like

1364
00:59:38,274 --> 00:59:40,234
Speaker 5: they're going to ever get over the hump with him

1365
00:59:40,274 --> 00:59:41,234
Speaker 5: as the head coach.

1366
00:59:41,074 --> 00:59:44,114
Speaker 4: Because they hard to argue. Hard to argue they have

1367
00:59:44,154 --> 00:59:44,794
Speaker 4: all the talent.

1368
00:59:45,354 --> 00:59:48,474
Speaker 6: Two different reasons though, but I mean San Francisco Cincinnati

1369
00:59:48,714 --> 00:59:51,514
Speaker 6: underperforming this year. I mean San Francisco killed with injuries,

1370
00:59:51,554 --> 00:59:54,674
Speaker 6: of course. But I just found myself last night just wondering,

1371
00:59:54,714 --> 00:59:57,113
Speaker 6: like why why are the Bengals having such a bad year,

1372
00:59:57,234 --> 00:59:58,874
Speaker 6: you know, like why, like they have all the pieces,

1373
00:59:58,914 --> 01:00:01,434
Speaker 6: all the things that we desperately covet and we want their.

1374
01:00:02,354 --> 01:00:03,354
Speaker 4: They had a bad summer.

1375
01:00:03,514 --> 01:00:04,634
Speaker 5: They have a bad defense.

1376
01:00:04,714 --> 01:00:06,994
Speaker 4: They had a bad summer and it's spilled over and

1377
01:00:07,034 --> 01:00:08,834
Speaker 4: it got them into a hole and now they can't

1378
01:00:08,874 --> 01:00:09,674
Speaker 4: fix the defense.

1379
01:00:10,034 --> 01:00:12,794
Speaker 5: The defense is really you said it, lou I mean yeah,

1380
01:00:12,874 --> 01:00:15,394
Speaker 5: Louiel Rimo is at the top of a lot of

1381
01:00:15,394 --> 01:00:19,434
Speaker 5: people's head coaching lists for this next cycle. The Bengals

1382
01:00:19,434 --> 01:00:23,234
Speaker 5: defensive coordinator and their defense has completely fallen apart. I mean,

1383
01:00:23,234 --> 01:00:25,994
Speaker 5: he was considered one of the best defensive in football

1384
01:00:26,114 --> 01:00:28,954
Speaker 5: just last year during the playoffs, and now all of

1385
01:00:28,994 --> 01:00:31,074
Speaker 5: a sudden that he is I don't even know if

1386
01:00:31,074 --> 01:00:32,554
Speaker 5: he's gonna get interviews like this time.

1387
01:00:32,634 --> 01:00:33,794
Speaker 4: Secondary is a mess.

1388
01:00:33,874 --> 01:00:36,074
Speaker 5: Yeah, their defense is a total mess. And really in

1389
01:00:36,074 --> 01:00:38,633
Speaker 5: the pass rush, Trey Henderson's all they have and every

1390
01:00:38,634 --> 01:00:40,834
Speaker 5: team knows it. So like you just getting all sorts

1391
01:00:40,834 --> 01:00:43,474
Speaker 5: of attention from the opponent because he's a one man

1392
01:00:43,514 --> 01:00:47,113
Speaker 5: pass rush. So their defense is that, I mean's Cooper rush.

1393
01:00:47,194 --> 01:00:48,794
Speaker 5: Like it's not that they're playing.

1394
01:00:48,514 --> 01:00:49,354
Speaker 6: It right down the field.

1395
01:00:49,794 --> 01:00:51,434
Speaker 4: In the game, I was like, whoa, they got right

1396
01:00:51,474 --> 01:00:53,234
Speaker 4: down there and I didn't see how they got that.

1397
01:00:53,274 --> 01:00:54,874
Speaker 4: They were inside the ten. The next time they had

1398
01:00:54,874 --> 01:00:57,234
Speaker 4: the ball. Would they turn it over fourth down?

1399
01:00:57,474 --> 01:00:57,633
Speaker 3: No?

1400
01:00:57,674 --> 01:00:58,794
Speaker 4: I think they know.

1401
01:00:58,874 --> 01:01:01,154
Speaker 6: The interception interception was kind of the ball interception a

1402
01:01:01,154 --> 01:01:01,593
Speaker 6: little close.

1403
01:01:01,754 --> 01:01:03,794
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't. I didn't see it. I wasn't watching

1404
01:01:03,794 --> 01:01:04,754
Speaker 4: the game that intently.

1405
01:01:04,794 --> 01:01:06,874
Speaker 6: But it's just like it's frustrating to watch that as

1406
01:01:06,874 --> 01:01:09,074
Speaker 6: a Patriots fan because so much of our conversation that

1407
01:01:09,114 --> 01:01:11,314
Speaker 6: we talk about it's like, how do we get that receiver?

1408
01:01:11,434 --> 01:01:14,314
Speaker 6: How do we know fix these tackles? And you know,

1409
01:01:14,314 --> 01:01:16,274
Speaker 6: I feel like Cincinnati's kind of been trying to do

1410
01:01:16,314 --> 01:01:18,234
Speaker 6: that for like three years, and they've had the pieces

1411
01:01:18,234 --> 01:01:20,593
Speaker 6: in place. They've had not one number one, but they've

1412
01:01:20,594 --> 01:01:22,994
Speaker 6: had another guy that a lot of people around here.

1413
01:01:22,874 --> 01:01:25,194
Speaker 4: To realize their offense is among the most productive.

1414
01:01:25,514 --> 01:01:27,073
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, no, I know, And that's that's what That's

1415
01:01:27,114 --> 01:01:27,994
Speaker 6: exactly what I'm saying.

1416
01:01:28,354 --> 01:01:31,114
Speaker 4: If they if they were eight and five instead of

1417
01:01:31,114 --> 01:01:32,994
Speaker 4: five and eight, Joe Burrow be in the top three

1418
01:01:33,034 --> 01:01:34,514
Speaker 4: for MVP, it would be And.

1419
01:01:34,634 --> 01:01:37,434
Speaker 6: That's that's what my point is. It's like, you're trying

1420
01:01:37,434 --> 01:01:39,034
Speaker 6: to so you've kind of solved a lot of the

1421
01:01:39,034 --> 01:01:41,954
Speaker 6: problems that we have, but like it's still like something's missing, you.

1422
01:01:41,994 --> 01:01:43,554
Speaker 5: Know, and it's they got the best offensive.

1423
01:01:43,634 --> 01:01:46,194
Speaker 6: Joe Burrow's playing an MVP level, Jamar Chase's you know,

1424
01:01:46,314 --> 01:01:49,554
Speaker 6: torching the league yet again, you know, and they've i know,

1425
01:01:49,554 --> 01:01:51,554
Speaker 6: they've had problems that tackle, and you know, that's been

1426
01:01:51,634 --> 01:01:54,874
Speaker 6: an ongoing process for them, which is also a concern for.

1427
01:01:54,874 --> 01:01:56,434
Speaker 3: Me because that's what we talk about.

1428
01:01:56,434 --> 01:01:58,434
Speaker 6: We talked about Amarus Mims last year. You know, we

1429
01:01:58,514 --> 01:02:00,834
Speaker 6: had Trent Brown here. You know, they went out and

1430
01:02:01,154 --> 01:02:03,194
Speaker 6: signed I mean, that's part of the part of the

1431
01:02:03,194 --> 01:02:06,674
Speaker 6: the hard Dogs I'm watching where Pittsburgh's talking about.

1432
01:02:06,434 --> 01:02:08,834
Speaker 4: They couldn't block Alt's tiresmith, so they got to go

1433
01:02:08,874 --> 01:02:09,954
Speaker 4: get this guy on let you know.

1434
01:02:09,994 --> 01:02:12,954
Speaker 6: That's the that's my Mike Tomlin. So you know, it's

1435
01:02:12,954 --> 01:02:15,314
Speaker 6: just it's just kind of a reminder staring you right

1436
01:02:15,314 --> 01:02:17,354
Speaker 6: in the face that even when you have a quarterback

1437
01:02:17,354 --> 01:02:19,634
Speaker 6: who is elite, you got to not just one weapon,

1438
01:02:19,674 --> 01:02:22,794
Speaker 6: but two. You've got a sweetheart defensive coordinator, you got

1439
01:02:22,794 --> 01:02:24,234
Speaker 6: a tight pants guy, your head coach.

1440
01:02:24,354 --> 01:02:26,514
Speaker 5: I mean, like all the things claim Zach Taylor, and no,

1441
01:02:26,554 --> 01:02:26,834
Speaker 5: I know.

1442
01:02:28,914 --> 01:02:32,754
Speaker 4: Bart and I know he's outside of the tree.

1443
01:02:32,834 --> 01:02:36,194
Speaker 5: Is technically Sean McVay tree, but we Zach.

1444
01:02:36,474 --> 01:02:38,314
Speaker 6: Is more like a clothes line.

1445
01:02:38,474 --> 01:02:41,514
Speaker 5: We don't claim Zach Taylor. He's like he's like more

1446
01:02:41,594 --> 01:02:43,754
Speaker 5: like he's like, yeah, he's like the twig off to

1447
01:02:43,794 --> 01:02:46,354
Speaker 5: the side of the tree that's like technically under the tree,

1448
01:02:46,434 --> 01:02:47,633
Speaker 5: but it's not in the tree.

1449
01:02:47,674 --> 01:02:49,434
Speaker 6: But you guys get what I'm saying. Like they have

1450
01:02:49,514 --> 01:02:50,914
Speaker 6: all the things that we talk about and like it's

1451
01:02:51,034 --> 01:02:51,394
Speaker 6: but they.

1452
01:02:51,314 --> 01:02:53,794
Speaker 4: Don't have a defense. And when they have the defense,

1453
01:02:53,794 --> 01:02:56,754
Speaker 4: they were Super Bowl team. So like that's what I them.

1454
01:02:56,914 --> 01:02:58,754
Speaker 4: Kind of like, if we got it this year and

1455
01:02:58,754 --> 01:03:02,154
Speaker 4: then this got hurt. I don't follow the Bengals personnel

1456
01:03:02,194 --> 01:03:04,874
Speaker 4: closely enough to know how it fell in two years

1457
01:03:04,914 --> 01:03:09,554
Speaker 4: from Super Bowl AFC Championship to can't stop a noseblay.

1458
01:03:09,794 --> 01:03:11,914
Speaker 4: I don't know how that happens. And I know they

1459
01:03:11,994 --> 01:03:14,314
Speaker 4: lost Jesse Bates and like you know, some other but

1460
01:03:14,434 --> 01:03:17,314
Speaker 4: like this not they still have some good players in that.

1461
01:03:17,394 --> 01:03:19,314
Speaker 4: You know, they have Logan Wilson, I know he's out now,

1462
01:03:20,274 --> 01:03:22,794
Speaker 4: you know, with Hubbard and and Hendrickson and Henderson's had

1463
01:03:22,834 --> 01:03:26,674
Speaker 4: a good years weird like, but they have no they

1464
01:03:26,674 --> 01:03:27,834
Speaker 4: have no secondary at all.

1465
01:03:28,034 --> 01:03:31,194
Speaker 5: It's just interesting the you know, we're getting into this

1466
01:03:31,274 --> 01:03:33,674
Speaker 5: draft stuff. I know, sorry Paul, but one of the

1467
01:03:33,714 --> 01:03:35,994
Speaker 5: big conversations I feel like we're gonna have is what

1468
01:03:36,034 --> 01:03:38,914
Speaker 5: the Bengals and the and the Lions had. You know

1469
01:03:38,954 --> 01:03:42,314
Speaker 5: with the Jamar Chase draft was Penny sewel versus Jamar Chase.

1470
01:03:42,354 --> 01:03:44,514
Speaker 5: And but do you take the franchise tackle or you

1471
01:03:44,554 --> 01:03:46,954
Speaker 5: take the franchise receiver? And I just look at the

1472
01:03:46,994 --> 01:03:50,113
Speaker 5: Bengals and it's a little bit of a cautionary tale

1473
01:03:50,154 --> 01:03:52,633
Speaker 5: to me about taking the receiver because as great as

1474
01:03:52,634 --> 01:03:54,234
Speaker 5: he is, and he might be the best receiver in

1475
01:03:54,274 --> 01:03:57,794
Speaker 5: the league there right now, they're twenty ninth and pass

1476
01:03:57,834 --> 01:04:00,113
Speaker 5: blocking win rate. Just looked it up after last night

1477
01:04:00,274 --> 01:04:02,314
Speaker 5: their thirty first and run blocking win rate. They have

1478
01:04:02,314 --> 01:04:04,994
Speaker 5: one of the worst offensive lines in football. Joe Burrow

1479
01:04:04,994 --> 01:04:05,834
Speaker 5: has never really been.

1480
01:04:05,914 --> 01:04:07,794
Speaker 4: Amazing that you can score forty a game with the

1481
01:04:07,834 --> 01:04:09,234
Speaker 4: worst offensive line in football.

1482
01:04:09,754 --> 01:04:13,274
Speaker 5: We're saying he's never actually really been well protected. I

1483
01:04:13,274 --> 01:04:16,954
Speaker 5: would say his entire career. I totally agree, and it's

1484
01:04:16,994 --> 01:04:19,874
Speaker 5: there have been injuries as a result of that. They

1485
01:04:19,914 --> 01:04:21,914
Speaker 5: lost a year last year because of an injury to

1486
01:04:21,994 --> 01:04:24,153
Speaker 5: Joe Burrow. I'm not saying it's right or wrong because

1487
01:04:24,194 --> 01:04:27,954
Speaker 5: Chase is so good that they had two elite guys

1488
01:04:27,954 --> 01:04:30,194
Speaker 5: and they picked one of the of the two elite guys.

1489
01:04:30,234 --> 01:04:32,634
Speaker 5: But when you talk about how you want the Patriots

1490
01:04:32,674 --> 01:04:36,514
Speaker 5: to build this team, it's a core philosophy. I still

1491
01:04:36,554 --> 01:04:38,994
Speaker 5: think building through the trenches is the most important thing

1492
01:04:39,394 --> 01:04:41,874
Speaker 5: other than quarterback, of course, and I think the Bengals

1493
01:04:41,874 --> 01:04:43,274
Speaker 5: are a great example of that. They have all the

1494
01:04:43,274 --> 01:04:45,634
Speaker 5: toys in the world. They have all the toys in

1495
01:04:45,674 --> 01:04:48,474
Speaker 5: the world, and they can't win and see.

1496
01:04:48,194 --> 01:04:50,514
Speaker 4: But I think it's hard to say that they can't

1497
01:04:50,554 --> 01:04:53,394
Speaker 4: win when they have won. They've been to the Super

1498
01:04:53,434 --> 01:04:57,394
Speaker 4: Bowl in the Conference championship in consecutive years. Detroit hasn't

1499
01:04:57,394 --> 01:05:01,434
Speaker 4: done that they took a lineman not yet. I mean

1500
01:05:01,554 --> 01:05:04,914
Speaker 4: I understand that, but like, let's put it this way,

1501
01:05:04,994 --> 01:05:07,754
Speaker 4: to use your example. If that's the choice I have,

1502
01:05:07,914 --> 01:05:12,274
Speaker 4: Jamar Chase a panty school. I'm feeling great. I can't lose, right.

1503
01:05:13,154 --> 01:05:15,794
Speaker 4: I don't think there's a wrong choice. Like I'm going

1504
01:05:15,874 --> 01:05:19,073
Speaker 4: to get two studs, potential Hall of Fame players no

1505
01:05:19,114 --> 01:05:20,954
Speaker 4: matter who I take, and they're really going to help

1506
01:05:20,994 --> 01:05:24,114
Speaker 4: my team. Like now you can get into a philosophical

1507
01:05:24,154 --> 01:05:28,434
Speaker 4: conversation and and obviously feels the trenches are more important.

1508
01:05:28,834 --> 01:05:30,474
Speaker 4: I don't think he's wrong. I don't I don't think

1509
01:05:30,554 --> 01:05:33,234
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say you're wrong, But I just I don't

1510
01:05:33,234 --> 01:05:34,834
Speaker 4: think that with the way the Bengals did it was

1511
01:05:34,874 --> 01:05:38,034
Speaker 4: wrong either it worked, it wasn't wrong. It worked, it

1512
01:05:38,074 --> 01:05:38,514
Speaker 4: wasn't wrong.

1513
01:05:38,514 --> 01:05:40,914
Speaker 5: I think you just talk about sustainability and like long

1514
01:05:41,034 --> 01:05:44,554
Speaker 5: term success. When you look a year over year, the

1515
01:05:44,634 --> 01:05:47,274
Speaker 5: teams that have the best line play are typically the

1516
01:05:47,314 --> 01:05:50,194
Speaker 5: teams that are consistent every single year. Like there's a

1517
01:05:50,234 --> 01:05:55,434
Speaker 5: reason why it's Lions, Eagles, Chiefs, Baltimore.

1518
01:05:55,794 --> 01:05:56,834
Speaker 4: Fall apart last year.

1519
01:05:57,994 --> 01:06:02,154
Speaker 5: I mean they fell apart for reasons though, But what

1520
01:06:03,154 --> 01:06:05,593
Speaker 5: I would so what I would say is no one's

1521
01:06:05,634 --> 01:06:07,554
Speaker 5: immune to it, Like even if you build through the

1522
01:06:07,594 --> 01:06:11,674
Speaker 5: trenches and you have this rock solid offensive and defensive line, you.

1523
01:06:11,794 --> 01:06:14,674
Speaker 4: Still just like everybody else and you can lose it,

1524
01:06:14,834 --> 01:06:16,474
Speaker 4: you know, And you're right, it was a culture thing.

1525
01:06:16,514 --> 01:06:20,314
Speaker 4: Evan's got it nailed like it was total Sirianni Jalen

1526
01:06:20,354 --> 01:06:24,434
Speaker 4: Hurts were button heads. I see signs this AJ Brown stuff.

1527
01:06:24,434 --> 01:06:26,154
Speaker 4: What do we have to do. We've got to improve

1528
01:06:26,194 --> 01:06:29,394
Speaker 4: the passing game. They've won like nine million games in

1529
01:06:29,474 --> 01:06:31,034
Speaker 4: a row and this is what they guy this like.

1530
01:06:31,034 --> 01:06:32,674
Speaker 4: And I know, Mike, this is right up your rally

1531
01:06:32,674 --> 01:06:34,314
Speaker 4: because this is what I don't want.

1532
01:06:34,154 --> 01:06:39,594
Speaker 6: To Brown's like for him, I'm willing to overlook that.

1533
01:06:39,714 --> 01:06:42,394
Speaker 4: But like Evans nailed it, like it's a culture thing,

1534
01:06:42,514 --> 01:06:45,434
Speaker 4: like you never know what's gonna upset the Apple card.

1535
01:06:45,474 --> 01:06:47,314
Speaker 6: But even with the Bengals, I feel like they've been

1536
01:06:47,314 --> 01:06:49,794
Speaker 6: having the same conversation about protection since they got you,

1537
01:06:49,954 --> 01:06:52,034
Speaker 6: and they're aware of it. They're trying to fix it

1538
01:06:52,034 --> 01:06:52,394
Speaker 6: every year.

1539
01:06:52,394 --> 01:06:55,234
Speaker 4: They're draft every year a good defense, it doesn't matter.

1540
01:06:55,354 --> 01:06:57,114
Speaker 4: But this year they're just like a train run.

1541
01:06:57,234 --> 01:07:01,354
Speaker 5: They have identity. They have gone after offensive lineman with

1542
01:07:01,594 --> 01:07:02,714
Speaker 5: high end resources.

1543
01:07:02,754 --> 01:07:05,234
Speaker 4: I like that. I think he's gonna be a good player.

1544
01:07:05,274 --> 01:07:07,034
Speaker 4: I know he hasn't been great.

1545
01:07:06,834 --> 01:07:10,674
Speaker 5: Yeah Mims, I mean even guys like our dude Ted Carris,

1546
01:07:10,714 --> 01:07:12,834
Speaker 5: Like it was not a big contract, but they still

1547
01:07:12,874 --> 01:07:16,274
Speaker 5: sign and prioritized him in free agency a couple of

1548
01:07:16,354 --> 01:07:18,914
Speaker 5: years ago. Like they draft Mims in the first round,

1549
01:07:19,154 --> 01:07:21,994
Speaker 5: they pay a tackle. They bring in Trent Brown as

1550
01:07:22,154 --> 01:07:25,034
Speaker 5: the third tackle, like they've tried, and they just can't

1551
01:07:25,274 --> 01:07:27,474
Speaker 5: as protect. And I'd say the same thing for Kansas City,

1552
01:07:27,554 --> 01:07:30,394
Speaker 5: Like it hasn't been first round picks necessarily yet for

1553
01:07:30,434 --> 01:07:32,834
Speaker 5: the Chiefs, which I'm sure will be. But the Chiefs

1554
01:07:32,874 --> 01:07:35,434
Speaker 5: they brought in guys too, you know, Sue Mattia, Wanya

1555
01:07:35,474 --> 01:07:38,434
Speaker 5: Morris now DJ Humphries, Jwan Taylor was a big free

1556
01:07:38,434 --> 01:07:40,994
Speaker 5: agent signing. They can't pass protect anybody either.

1557
01:07:41,074 --> 01:07:43,593
Speaker 4: I see that. The clips, excuse me, they were showing

1558
01:07:43,634 --> 01:07:48,034
Speaker 4: Sunday Night of Taylor. He's the one on the right side, right, yeah,

1559
01:07:48,074 --> 01:07:50,394
Speaker 4: and they were showing how he know he lines up properly,

1560
01:07:50,714 --> 01:07:53,874
Speaker 4: just like good for you. I now line up on

1561
01:07:53,914 --> 01:07:56,314
Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage. He still gets the false start

1562
01:07:56,354 --> 01:07:58,074
Speaker 4: a lot though, Yeah they didn't. They don't call it

1563
01:07:58,114 --> 01:08:00,994
Speaker 4: all the time. Did you see by the way, You know,

1564
01:08:01,034 --> 01:08:04,634
Speaker 4: they want to talk about some of these these plays

1565
01:08:04,634 --> 01:08:07,593
Speaker 4: that you get, you know, like, what was the game?

1566
01:08:07,674 --> 01:08:10,514
Speaker 4: And now I'm forgetting it? Oh, the Rams. Everybody wants

1567
01:08:10,554 --> 01:08:12,834
Speaker 4: to talk about all these teams, they get all the calls.

1568
01:08:13,274 --> 01:08:17,514
Speaker 4: Kansas City, you know, Josh Allen flops all while you

1569
01:08:17,554 --> 01:08:21,434
Speaker 4: got that kind of bogus horse calle. Do you see that?

1570
01:08:21,554 --> 01:08:21,754
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1571
01:08:21,834 --> 01:08:23,874
Speaker 4: Yeah, And really I don't think it was a horse caller.

1572
01:08:23,874 --> 01:08:26,874
Speaker 4: It was kind of a shaky call. Biggest play of

1573
01:08:26,874 --> 01:08:28,754
Speaker 4: the game. Fourth and five, the Rams go for it

1574
01:08:29,154 --> 01:08:31,474
Speaker 4: the left the right tackle moved about twenty minutes before

1575
01:08:31,514 --> 01:08:33,514
Speaker 4: the ball was snapped. Ye, well it wasn't even close.

1576
01:08:33,714 --> 01:08:36,594
Speaker 4: First he's leaning and then he just flat out was

1577
01:08:36,634 --> 01:08:39,714
Speaker 4: in his no no call. Fourth and ten. They probably

1578
01:08:39,794 --> 01:08:42,594
Speaker 4: kicked the field goal. That's a big play. That's that.

1579
01:08:42,674 --> 01:08:43,354
Speaker 4: That was the game.

1580
01:08:44,394 --> 01:08:46,394
Speaker 5: The calls for the Chiefs don't bother me as much

1581
01:08:46,434 --> 01:08:48,954
Speaker 5: as they do for other people. Actually might be surprising, because.

1582
01:08:49,034 --> 01:08:51,314
Speaker 4: I just hate officiating in general, and I think that

1583
01:08:51,394 --> 01:08:53,434
Speaker 4: I don't think that they favor any team. No, I

1584
01:08:53,514 --> 01:08:54,554
Speaker 4: just think they're in competent.

1585
01:08:54,994 --> 01:08:57,434
Speaker 5: I don't I don't care about the calls that they

1586
01:08:57,474 --> 01:09:00,594
Speaker 5: get and everybody gets what what what irks me about

1587
01:09:00,594 --> 01:09:04,634
Speaker 5: the Chiefs? I watched their games and defensively they're they're good,

1588
01:09:04,674 --> 01:09:07,034
Speaker 5: but offensively it just doesn't feel like they ever play

1589
01:09:07,154 --> 01:09:10,394
Speaker 5: very well. And he makes one freaking play on the

1590
01:09:10,634 --> 01:09:12,754
Speaker 5: Travis Kelcey at the end of the game to get

1591
01:09:12,754 --> 01:09:14,514
Speaker 5: a first down so that they can just note the.

1592
01:09:14,474 --> 01:09:17,954
Speaker 4: Clock Worthy before that. Yeah, like they they showed and

1593
01:09:17,994 --> 01:09:21,714
Speaker 4: I saw sweet Lotule Riddick had a great clip on

1594
01:09:21,714 --> 01:09:26,994
Speaker 4: on the Twitter machine. I mean the Chargers defended that

1595
01:09:27,114 --> 01:09:31,914
Speaker 4: play so well. Yeah, and Mahomes just says, that's that

1596
01:09:31,994 --> 01:09:35,314
Speaker 4: was cute. You did a good job, you took that away. Whatever,

1597
01:09:35,514 --> 01:09:37,554
Speaker 4: and he like slides around and moves, he jumps and

1598
01:09:37,554 --> 01:09:40,154
Speaker 4: he makes the throw and Worthy, you know, just kind

1599
01:09:40,154 --> 01:09:42,714
Speaker 4: of like settles down. That was a third and long

1600
01:09:42,834 --> 01:09:44,554
Speaker 4: like they don't they got a punt.

1601
01:09:44,714 --> 01:09:46,754
Speaker 5: It's like it's like two or three plays a game

1602
01:09:46,794 --> 01:09:49,634
Speaker 5: that Mahomes makes offensively and that's all that he needs.

1603
01:09:49,634 --> 01:09:51,754
Speaker 4: This is why I get in arguments with people that like,

1604
01:09:51,834 --> 01:09:53,474
Speaker 4: tell me how bad he's been this year and I

1605
01:09:53,474 --> 01:09:55,354
Speaker 4: don't care what his numbers are, Like, watch the games

1606
01:09:55,354 --> 01:09:57,514
Speaker 4: when the games are on the line. Yeah, every week

1607
01:09:57,554 --> 01:09:59,714
Speaker 4: you watch the highlights and he's running thirty yards to

1608
01:09:59,754 --> 01:10:01,874
Speaker 4: set up a field goal. He's making that play that

1609
01:10:01,874 --> 01:10:04,834
Speaker 4: he's talked that Evan's talking about to Kelsey. That's the

1610
01:10:04,874 --> 01:10:08,114
Speaker 4: difference between given the charges two minutes to go down

1611
01:10:08,154 --> 01:10:10,794
Speaker 4: and take the lead, or I'm going to kick a

1612
01:10:10,794 --> 01:10:12,554
Speaker 4: field goal in the last play of the game instead.

1613
01:10:13,074 --> 01:10:15,034
Speaker 4: You know, that's the difference between the Jets and the

1614
01:10:15,074 --> 01:10:19,154
Speaker 4: Dolphins in that game, Like that, converting that play is

1615
01:10:19,154 --> 01:10:22,634
Speaker 4: the difference. Like you have the winning points already, but

1616
01:10:22,714 --> 01:10:24,674
Speaker 4: I'm going to make sure I take the time off too.

1617
01:10:25,274 --> 01:10:27,153
Speaker 4: Mahomes does that every week. It's amazing.

1618
01:10:27,234 --> 01:10:29,674
Speaker 6: Yeah, fricking juju, like every time he catches his best

1619
01:10:29,714 --> 01:10:33,034
Speaker 6: And like I, I.

1620
01:10:31,754 --> 01:10:34,154
Speaker 5: Don't know the one thing about the Chiefs too, because

1621
01:10:34,194 --> 01:10:36,234
Speaker 5: I have to defend the wall a little bit. I

1622
01:10:36,274 --> 01:10:38,034
Speaker 5: hear a lot of like, oh, the you know, this

1623
01:10:38,114 --> 01:10:41,274
Speaker 5: season is a lot like like the Patriots and Paul,

1624
01:10:41,314 --> 01:10:43,714
Speaker 5: You're you're better at this stuff than I am remembering

1625
01:10:43,914 --> 01:10:46,514
Speaker 5: all the years, but like I just the Patriots are

1626
01:10:46,514 --> 01:10:48,754
Speaker 5: more dominant than this, Like the Patriots were in one

1627
01:10:48,794 --> 01:10:51,354
Speaker 5: score games every single week season.

1628
01:10:52,234 --> 01:10:54,474
Speaker 4: The year that would be a little like this was

1629
01:10:54,514 --> 01:10:58,754
Speaker 4: OZ three. Yeah, where you know first two offensive plays

1630
01:10:58,754 --> 01:11:01,634
Speaker 4: of the game against the Giants at home, the Giants

1631
01:11:01,674 --> 01:11:04,234
Speaker 4: fumble and the Patriots pick it up and run it back,

1632
01:11:04,554 --> 01:11:06,274
Speaker 4: and you know, and that's like the only scoring in

1633
01:11:06,314 --> 01:11:08,434
Speaker 4: the game. They won, like seventeen to three or whatever,

1634
01:11:10,474 --> 01:11:14,394
Speaker 4: and it would happen week after week after week. I

1635
01:11:14,394 --> 01:11:19,474
Speaker 4: don't remember as many fluky like last play of the

1636
01:11:19,514 --> 01:11:22,314
Speaker 4: game kind of things like banking the field goal in

1637
01:11:22,594 --> 01:11:25,874
Speaker 4: blocking a chip shot that they did against denv in

1638
01:11:25,954 --> 01:11:29,954
Speaker 4: one year. I remember individual games throughout the run, but

1639
01:11:29,994 --> 01:11:32,754
Speaker 4: I don't remember as many fluky wins in one season

1640
01:11:32,754 --> 01:11:33,954
Speaker 4: as Kansas City's had this year.

1641
01:11:33,954 --> 01:11:35,354
Speaker 6: I think it's like, which way do you lean? Do

1642
01:11:35,434 --> 01:11:37,554
Speaker 6: you lean towards? This is a team that just knows

1643
01:11:37,594 --> 01:11:39,034
Speaker 6: how to win, and they pull it out and when

1644
01:11:39,074 --> 01:11:41,034
Speaker 6: it's on the line, they make the plays. Or do

1645
01:11:41,114 --> 01:11:43,274
Speaker 6: you are you a little worried that it's a very

1646
01:11:43,314 --> 01:11:45,194
Speaker 6: thin margin of victory for them and it's probably gonna

1647
01:11:45,194 --> 01:11:46,354
Speaker 6: come down to one or two plays.

1648
01:11:46,394 --> 01:11:48,994
Speaker 4: I don't feel great about them, and I don't have

1649
01:11:49,034 --> 01:11:52,234
Speaker 4: the hatred because I respect greatness, I really do, and

1650
01:11:52,354 --> 01:11:54,714
Speaker 4: I don't have the hatred for that for them that

1651
01:11:54,794 --> 01:11:57,754
Speaker 4: a lot of other people do. It's kind of the

1652
01:11:57,754 --> 01:12:00,594
Speaker 4: same with Manning. Like I didn't hate Peyton Manning the

1653
01:12:00,594 --> 01:12:04,074
Speaker 4: way a lot of other people did. I just can't

1654
01:12:04,114 --> 01:12:06,594
Speaker 4: imagine that you're gonna win like this every week. If

1655
01:12:06,594 --> 01:12:09,074
Speaker 4: they don't get the offense straightened out, someone's gonna beat

1656
01:12:09,154 --> 01:12:10,074
Speaker 4: them in the playoffespecially with.

1657
01:12:10,034 --> 01:12:11,634
Speaker 6: The offenses they're gonna have to go against, right Like

1658
01:12:11,674 --> 01:12:12,074
Speaker 6: I mean.

1659
01:12:11,994 --> 01:12:14,234
Speaker 5: I mean, it could be a situation where it's like

1660
01:12:14,794 --> 01:12:16,994
Speaker 5: they get a weather game, you know, at home in

1661
01:12:17,074 --> 01:12:19,914
Speaker 5: Kansas City and January. But like you talk about winning

1662
01:12:19,954 --> 01:12:22,074
Speaker 5: a super Bowl like that or whether it's not going

1663
01:12:22,114 --> 01:12:23,874
Speaker 5: to be a factor once you get to the super Bowl.

1664
01:12:24,154 --> 01:12:26,274
Speaker 5: I just think a better off intive team will, like

1665
01:12:26,554 --> 01:12:29,074
Speaker 5: they gonna Detroit score in thirty a game, Like if

1666
01:12:29,074 --> 01:12:31,554
Speaker 5: they played Detroit in the super Bowl, They're not gonna

1667
01:12:31,594 --> 01:12:33,794
Speaker 5: win that game seventeen fourteen. They're gonna have to win

1668
01:12:33,834 --> 01:12:36,274
Speaker 5: that game twenty eight, twenty four You know, are they

1669
01:12:36,314 --> 01:12:38,714
Speaker 5: gonna be able to do that? I don't know, but

1670
01:12:38,874 --> 01:12:41,114
Speaker 5: I I just look at this Chiefs team this year,

1671
01:12:41,594 --> 01:12:44,234
Speaker 5: and this has been pretty fluky, Like they've had.

1672
01:12:43,994 --> 01:12:45,914
Speaker 4: Some very really fluky.

1673
01:12:45,634 --> 01:12:48,994
Speaker 5: Really fluky bounces. Now they would probably still be nine

1674
01:12:49,034 --> 01:12:51,394
Speaker 5: and five or ten and three or whatever the math is.

1675
01:12:51,994 --> 01:12:55,434
Speaker 5: But they twelve and one is is fluky.

1676
01:12:55,674 --> 01:12:58,234
Speaker 6: So jump over to the TPX hotline here see if

1677
01:12:58,274 --> 01:13:01,234
Speaker 6: Aiden's still holding on? Hey, Aiden, are you there?

1678
01:13:03,554 --> 01:13:03,994
Speaker 5: Aiden?

1679
01:13:04,474 --> 01:13:07,194
Speaker 6: Aiden, I'm gonna do like Fred, you know, like your dad. Aiden,

1680
01:13:09,034 --> 01:13:09,874
Speaker 6: get my glasses?

1681
01:13:09,874 --> 01:13:10,154
Speaker 3: All right?

1682
01:13:10,274 --> 01:13:12,594
Speaker 6: Sorry, Aiden, all right, I'll try Sean. He's been holding

1683
01:13:12,634 --> 01:13:14,914
Speaker 6: a little shorter down in South Florida.

1684
01:13:15,314 --> 01:13:18,034
Speaker 4: Player from Broxton is going to be well, yeah, all right.

1685
01:13:18,234 --> 01:13:21,154
Speaker 12: I'm sorry has left because I had a couple of things.

1686
01:13:21,194 --> 01:13:22,194
Speaker 13: Hopefully there about it.

1687
01:13:22,514 --> 01:13:25,314
Speaker 12: I'm visiting my brother I live in Vancouver, and and

1688
01:13:25,434 --> 01:13:29,954
Speaker 12: uh in on his floor. The washing and drying machine are.

1689
01:13:29,874 --> 01:13:31,154
Speaker 3: Both beefere you go.

1690
01:13:31,434 --> 01:13:35,394
Speaker 12: There's a non differend recommendation. Now in terms of a

1691
01:13:35,474 --> 01:13:38,634
Speaker 12: movie on the plane on Friday, I want to watch

1692
01:13:38,914 --> 01:13:40,834
Speaker 12: carry On on Netflix because it's going to be on

1693
01:13:40,834 --> 01:13:42,594
Speaker 12: on Friday and that's what I'm flying to feed it.

1694
01:13:43,674 --> 01:13:46,154
Speaker 4: But the best carry on bring your carry on in

1695
01:13:46,154 --> 01:13:47,714
Speaker 4: the again, bring your carry on.

1696
01:13:49,194 --> 01:13:51,194
Speaker 12: I think I'm just gonna bring a personal bag because

1697
01:13:51,194 --> 01:13:52,034
Speaker 12: it's such a short trip.

1698
01:13:54,234 --> 01:13:57,234
Speaker 6: One personal item, yeah, one personally.

1699
01:13:58,074 --> 01:14:00,594
Speaker 12: But yeah, the best movies I've seen so far this

1700
01:14:00,674 --> 01:14:03,594
Speaker 12: year are Conclave and Saturday Night. So he can rent

1701
01:14:03,634 --> 01:14:05,834
Speaker 12: those those will be and make it enjoyable.

1702
01:14:05,914 --> 01:14:06,114
Speaker 13: Plight.

1703
01:14:06,874 --> 01:14:08,714
Speaker 4: I'm so old, I've never even heard of either one

1704
01:14:08,754 --> 01:14:10,834
Speaker 4: of those best movies of the year.

1705
01:14:12,354 --> 01:14:16,794
Speaker 12: Yeah, Conclave is it's a great vines and uh Samley

1706
01:14:16,834 --> 01:14:17,914
Speaker 12: Tucci it's it's really good.

1707
01:14:17,914 --> 01:14:19,714
Speaker 13: It's it's about a new.

1708
01:14:19,594 --> 01:14:22,274
Speaker 12: Pope, like electing a new pope, and Saturday Night's about dialog.

1709
01:14:22,674 --> 01:14:26,674
Speaker 4: But anyway, I did hear it. I heard that was terrible.

1710
01:14:27,954 --> 01:14:29,634
Speaker 4: I read a review about that movie, and I heard

1711
01:14:29,674 --> 01:14:30,874
Speaker 4: it was really really bad.

1712
01:14:31,154 --> 01:14:31,754
Speaker 3: I believe it.

1713
01:14:31,994 --> 01:14:33,914
Speaker 12: Well, that guy probably doesn't like The Cient Live. I'm

1714
01:14:33,954 --> 01:14:36,034
Speaker 12: a huge I've seen every episode since it starts.

1715
01:14:36,074 --> 01:14:39,114
Speaker 6: But anyway, Wow, that's pretty good shot.

1716
01:14:40,114 --> 01:14:41,314
Speaker 12: I'd like to see. I don't know if it will

1717
01:14:41,354 --> 01:14:43,754
Speaker 12: ever happen, but I'd love to see Belichick coach the Giant.

1718
01:14:43,994 --> 01:14:46,514
Speaker 12: You know, maybe he can improve them for a few years,

1719
01:14:46,554 --> 01:14:48,514
Speaker 12: then get the record and then he can retire.

1720
01:14:48,714 --> 01:14:48,754
Speaker 1: That.

1721
01:14:48,874 --> 01:14:51,754
Speaker 12: That's what I really like that guy. And how with

1722
01:14:51,834 --> 01:14:54,674
Speaker 12: the Washington Husky they're not doing well this season, but

1723
01:14:54,674 --> 01:14:57,034
Speaker 12: it's not their defense. I've see Steve Belichick has done

1724
01:14:57,074 --> 01:14:59,554
Speaker 12: a good job. I love him to, you know, move

1725
01:14:59,674 --> 01:15:02,074
Speaker 12: up and eventually get a head coaching job.

1726
01:15:02,634 --> 01:15:03,674
Speaker 3: Would like eventually.

1727
01:15:04,914 --> 01:15:08,594
Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks Sean, Thanks Sean, Thanks Sean she Is.

1728
01:15:08,714 --> 01:15:10,914
Speaker 5: I have heard that that Steve's done a decent job.

1729
01:15:10,954 --> 01:15:12,634
Speaker 4: They were saying that on the radio today.

1730
01:15:14,114 --> 01:15:15,554
Speaker 5: Washington Football. But I have heard that.

1731
01:15:15,594 --> 01:15:17,594
Speaker 6: I flipped them on a couple of times, specifically just

1732
01:15:17,594 --> 01:15:19,394
Speaker 6: to see kind of what he was doing with their defense.

1733
01:15:19,434 --> 01:15:21,634
Speaker 6: And yeah, it's uh no, nothing crazy.

1734
01:15:22,794 --> 01:15:24,914
Speaker 5: Those were not the best movies I've seen this year.

1735
01:15:25,034 --> 01:15:26,434
Speaker 4: Yeah, forty nine to Oregon.

1736
01:15:26,594 --> 01:15:27,994
Speaker 6: I haven't forty nine.

1737
01:15:28,114 --> 01:15:31,274
Speaker 5: That's good, Well, it's Oregon the country.

1738
01:15:31,914 --> 01:15:33,514
Speaker 4: Thirty five to Penn State.

1739
01:15:33,674 --> 01:15:36,554
Speaker 6: Which, uh that quarterback is speaking? Am I allowed to

1740
01:15:36,674 --> 01:15:38,874
Speaker 6: talk about this? I guys, I watched them college football?

1741
01:15:39,154 --> 01:15:42,073
Speaker 6: Did you watch? I did? I watched did you Oregon?

1742
01:15:42,154 --> 01:15:44,914
Speaker 6: Penn State? Yeah? And what was the other one I watched?

1743
01:15:44,914 --> 01:15:49,234
Speaker 6: I watched Georgia. No, Georgia Texas, Georgia Texas.

1744
01:15:49,274 --> 01:15:49,434
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1745
01:15:49,434 --> 01:15:52,314
Speaker 6: I watched both those up in my my ski condo.

1746
01:15:52,554 --> 01:15:57,794
Speaker 6: It was very fun. I don't have any I say, no,

1747
01:15:57,914 --> 01:15:59,914
Speaker 6: I just say college football is so crazy. Every time

1748
01:15:59,914 --> 01:16:01,874
Speaker 6: I watch it, I'm just like, this is the Wild West.

1749
01:16:01,914 --> 01:16:06,234
Speaker 6: Like it's just big plays, penalties, turnovers, craziness, points being

1750
01:16:06,274 --> 01:16:08,154
Speaker 6: scored left and right. But it's I had fun. I

1751
01:16:08,154 --> 01:16:10,194
Speaker 6: had fun watching it. That That Oregon Penn State game

1752
01:16:10,314 --> 01:16:13,034
Speaker 6: was I mean, freaking Oregon looked like a machine.

1753
01:16:13,074 --> 01:16:16,554
Speaker 4: I mean, they's defense had to be wretchedly bad in

1754
01:16:16,594 --> 01:16:18,594
Speaker 4: that game because Penn State can't score like that.

1755
01:16:18,994 --> 01:16:21,714
Speaker 6: No, the Penn State they struggled a little bit.

1756
01:16:22,074 --> 01:16:22,354
Speaker 3: Seven.

1757
01:16:23,074 --> 01:16:25,434
Speaker 6: Yeah, I didn't watch. I've only watched the first half.

1758
01:16:25,434 --> 01:16:27,834
Speaker 6: But yeah, Penn State's tight end was pretty good.

1759
01:16:27,874 --> 01:16:30,394
Speaker 4: And he's good, yeah player, Tyler Warren. They use him

1760
01:16:30,394 --> 01:16:32,354
Speaker 4: a little bit of quarterback.

1761
01:16:32,554 --> 01:16:34,794
Speaker 5: It's not quite as bad as Malik Neighbors deuce, but

1762
01:16:34,874 --> 01:16:37,114
Speaker 5: like being up to date on Tyler Warren.

1763
01:16:37,194 --> 01:16:39,154
Speaker 6: All right, all right, well I did watch.

1764
01:16:39,234 --> 01:16:40,994
Speaker 4: I was watching a little of my lat too.

1765
01:16:42,114 --> 01:16:44,114
Speaker 6: Well, to be fair, I was watching Abdull Carter. That's

1766
01:16:44,274 --> 01:16:46,074
Speaker 6: kind of like all right, so I wanted, you know,

1767
01:16:46,114 --> 01:16:48,194
Speaker 6: to see him a little bit. And yeah, they were

1768
01:16:48,274 --> 01:16:49,994
Speaker 6: just I mean they they were running away from him.

1769
01:16:49,994 --> 01:16:52,554
Speaker 6: He was not really making an impact early on. But

1770
01:16:52,714 --> 01:16:54,674
Speaker 6: you know another guy that like kind of probably gonna

1771
01:16:54,674 --> 01:16:57,034
Speaker 6: be on the list. He somebody who is electric and

1772
01:16:57,154 --> 01:16:59,954
Speaker 6: just hu has the juice, Like he just has juice.

1773
01:17:00,074 --> 01:17:01,554
Speaker 6: Like when I looked at him, I was like, this

1774
01:17:01,634 --> 01:17:04,114
Speaker 6: guy has what it takes to get out the ball.

1775
01:17:04,154 --> 01:17:06,674
Speaker 6: I means, I know his whole story with moving from

1776
01:17:06,754 --> 01:17:08,594
Speaker 6: off the ball and stuff, but you know, I just

1777
01:17:08,674 --> 01:17:10,954
Speaker 6: that's I'm starting to get a little draft tingled. Sorry, Paul,

1778
01:17:10,994 --> 01:17:11,194
Speaker 6: I know.

1779
01:17:11,554 --> 01:17:15,074
Speaker 5: Oh I don't mind like talking about Yeah, I.

1780
01:17:14,994 --> 01:17:17,754
Speaker 4: Don't necessarily mind talking about the draft in an abstract

1781
01:17:17,834 --> 01:17:19,754
Speaker 4: like you know, like the Patriots are gonna have a

1782
01:17:19,754 --> 01:17:22,554
Speaker 4: top five pick positions, you know, but like to sort

1783
01:17:22,554 --> 01:17:26,354
Speaker 4: of like zero in on, like, no, they have to

1784
01:17:26,434 --> 01:17:29,154
Speaker 4: draft to tackle, like I'm not ready for that, you know,

1785
01:17:29,594 --> 01:17:33,314
Speaker 4: And it's Calvin Banks well will you know, Will Campbell.

1786
01:17:33,434 --> 01:17:37,874
Speaker 4: I don't care. I don't not now. I was speaking

1787
01:17:37,874 --> 01:17:40,634
Speaker 4: of that watching the games. Really disappointing that Banks couldn't

1788
01:17:40,674 --> 01:17:43,474
Speaker 4: play because I wanted to see him play against Georgia

1789
01:17:43,474 --> 01:17:45,674
Speaker 4: again because he didn't play well against Georgia the first time.

1790
01:17:45,914 --> 01:17:46,794
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know.

1791
01:17:46,834 --> 01:17:49,194
Speaker 5: So Georgia has a couple of guys on their defense,

1792
01:17:49,434 --> 01:17:54,114
Speaker 5: MIKEL Williams who has similar problems to like Trayvon Walker,

1793
01:17:54,154 --> 01:17:56,274
Speaker 5: and that the production isn't off the charts because the

1794
01:17:56,354 --> 01:17:58,714
Speaker 5: role that he plays in their defense. But he's got

1795
01:17:58,714 --> 01:18:02,514
Speaker 5: all the tools long, you know, explosive edge rusher and

1796
01:18:02,554 --> 01:18:06,914
Speaker 5: then they also have another, Yeah, Jalen Walker. I think

1797
01:18:06,994 --> 01:18:11,674
Speaker 5: it's also a Walker kind of reminds me a little

1798
01:18:11,674 --> 01:18:14,634
Speaker 5: bit of Dry Mayo, to be honest with you, plays

1799
01:18:14,674 --> 01:18:16,714
Speaker 5: on and off the line of scrimmage, like you know,

1800
01:18:16,874 --> 01:18:19,274
Speaker 5: one of those guys that is sort of a chess

1801
01:18:19,274 --> 01:18:22,274
Speaker 5: piece and has you know, leads them in tackles and

1802
01:18:22,314 --> 01:18:24,754
Speaker 5: like all that kind of stuff. He's more to me though,

1803
01:18:24,794 --> 01:18:28,154
Speaker 5: like traditional like middle linebacker.

1804
01:18:28,274 --> 01:18:30,754
Speaker 4: You don't They're good up front. The biggest difference for

1805
01:18:30,794 --> 01:18:33,034
Speaker 4: Georgia this year is they don't have the secondary. They

1806
01:18:33,114 --> 01:18:35,794
Speaker 4: usually have really good corners and they don't have corners.

1807
01:18:35,874 --> 01:18:37,674
Speaker 6: Speaking of an American and I throw a name out

1808
01:18:37,714 --> 01:18:40,994
Speaker 6: there that kind of caught my curiosity a little bit.

1809
01:18:41,034 --> 01:18:44,594
Speaker 6: In free agency, Drake Greenlaw coming off a big injury

1810
01:18:44,594 --> 01:18:46,554
Speaker 6: obviously in the playoffs last year. He's just starting to

1811
01:18:46,554 --> 01:18:47,194
Speaker 6: practice right now.

1812
01:18:47,194 --> 01:18:48,914
Speaker 4: He's getting perfect guy. If Bill was there, He's going

1813
01:18:48,994 --> 01:18:49,154
Speaker 4: to be.

1814
01:18:49,114 --> 01:18:52,114
Speaker 6: A free agent, you know, kind of an emotional leader

1815
01:18:52,114 --> 01:18:54,074
Speaker 6: there for the team. I know Jowan Bentley's coming back.

1816
01:18:54,114 --> 01:18:56,194
Speaker 6: But when I look at free agency, and I know

1817
01:18:56,234 --> 01:18:58,434
Speaker 6: San Francisco got a ton of decisions to make with

1818
01:18:58,434 --> 01:19:00,674
Speaker 6: with their roster too that you know could that be

1819
01:19:00,754 --> 01:19:03,234
Speaker 6: a guy that you know you're not. He's not coming

1820
01:19:03,234 --> 01:19:04,994
Speaker 6: off the great, he's you know, he's missad pretty much

1821
01:19:04,994 --> 01:19:07,954
Speaker 6: the whole year. But we talk a lot about Look,

1822
01:19:08,154 --> 01:19:11,314
Speaker 6: free agency doesn't have the exact groceries that you need.

1823
01:19:11,354 --> 01:19:12,914
Speaker 6: And at the left, you know, I mean I think

1824
01:19:12,954 --> 01:19:16,234
Speaker 6: they are left tackle guys to consider. But you know,

1825
01:19:16,274 --> 01:19:18,994
Speaker 6: maybe we've talked about the cornerback position, but maybe off

1826
01:19:19,034 --> 01:19:22,394
Speaker 6: the ball, like pair him with Bentley, you've got two dogs,

1827
01:19:22,554 --> 01:19:23,914
Speaker 6: really good player.

1828
01:19:23,954 --> 01:19:26,194
Speaker 4: I mean, if he if he becomes a really good player,

1829
01:19:26,874 --> 01:19:27,834
Speaker 4: if you could still play.

1830
01:19:27,714 --> 01:19:30,194
Speaker 5: More coverage ability too, I would say than the guys

1831
01:19:30,194 --> 01:19:31,794
Speaker 5: they have small six.

1832
01:19:31,594 --> 01:19:33,314
Speaker 6: Feet but athletic and can move.

1833
01:19:33,394 --> 01:19:35,914
Speaker 5: And but I'm with you in general on and you

1834
01:19:35,954 --> 01:19:38,434
Speaker 5: were talking about this with the draft on Catch twenty two,

1835
01:19:38,474 --> 01:19:41,394
Speaker 5: like you can only follow the market, like the market

1836
01:19:41,434 --> 01:19:44,994
Speaker 5: dictates the talent that's available, and like we all wish

1837
01:19:45,034 --> 01:19:48,834
Speaker 5: that there was you know, a Marvin Harrison junior or

1838
01:19:48,874 --> 01:19:51,554
Speaker 5: Molik neighbors in this draft, but like let's not turn

1839
01:19:52,074 --> 01:19:55,234
Speaker 5: Teed McMillan into that just because we're where we wish

1840
01:19:55,354 --> 01:19:57,714
Speaker 5: it was the case, or same thing at tackle, like

1841
01:19:57,754 --> 01:19:59,274
Speaker 5: with Will Campbell and I feel the same way in

1842
01:19:59,274 --> 01:20:01,434
Speaker 5: free agency, like you have to pay the guys that

1843
01:20:01,474 --> 01:20:03,474
Speaker 5: are worth paying. Yeah, you know, you don't have talent

1844
01:20:03,514 --> 01:20:05,554
Speaker 5: on this team, So like, what difference does it make

1845
01:20:05,594 --> 01:20:08,914
Speaker 5: if he plays linebacker, if it's you know, Javon Holland

1846
01:20:08,914 --> 01:20:12,194
Speaker 5: at safety, if it's a cornerback next to Gonzales, Like,

1847
01:20:12,394 --> 01:20:15,354
Speaker 5: it really doesn't matter if you're just stacking the talent

1848
01:20:15,434 --> 01:20:18,234
Speaker 5: on the team. So we would all like, I feel

1849
01:20:18,274 --> 01:20:20,554
Speaker 5: like we get bogged down by needs and like what

1850
01:20:20,954 --> 01:20:23,474
Speaker 5: position do they need to draft or need to sign

1851
01:20:23,594 --> 01:20:26,114
Speaker 5: or whatever. And it's like, well, you're not going to

1852
01:20:26,194 --> 01:20:28,634
Speaker 5: just sign a left tackle and give that guy starter

1853
01:20:28,754 --> 01:20:30,874
Speaker 5: money just because you need a left tackle, and this

1854
01:20:30,954 --> 01:20:33,994
Speaker 5: is the the you know, sort of the placeholder that

1855
01:20:34,034 --> 01:20:35,354
Speaker 5: you have in that So it makes.

1856
01:20:35,154 --> 01:20:38,914
Speaker 4: The Polk pick hurt more. Like, Yeah, this year, if

1857
01:20:38,914 --> 01:20:41,914
Speaker 4: he you know, had a really solid rookie year, you'd

1858
01:20:41,954 --> 01:20:44,034
Speaker 4: be so excited about it. You'd have a good young receiver.

1859
01:20:44,194 --> 01:20:46,194
Speaker 4: Now you kind of feel like we really need to

1860
01:20:46,194 --> 01:20:49,674
Speaker 4: find a young receiver. Yeah and yeah, well to Evan's point,

1861
01:20:50,194 --> 01:20:52,394
Speaker 4: but you to do that was probably last year and

1862
01:20:52,474 --> 01:20:53,674
Speaker 4: it looks like you may have missed.

1863
01:20:53,874 --> 01:20:54,394
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1864
01:20:54,554 --> 01:20:56,594
Speaker 6: That's why I think CV two is like the spot

1865
01:20:56,634 --> 01:21:00,194
Speaker 6: where there's gonna be some legit CB one almost kind

1866
01:21:00,194 --> 01:21:01,834
Speaker 6: of guys I think hitting the market this year and

1867
01:21:02,394 --> 01:21:05,954
Speaker 6: it's not probably a top the list, but Paara guy

1868
01:21:05,994 --> 01:21:09,034
Speaker 6: with Gonzalez and you know, this year we got two

1869
01:21:09,034 --> 01:21:10,514
Speaker 6: of the best safeties in the game or two of

1870
01:21:10,554 --> 01:21:12,114
Speaker 6: the best corners in the game playing together.

1871
01:21:12,474 --> 01:21:15,674
Speaker 4: It's another underrated You know, we talked a lot about

1872
01:21:15,674 --> 01:21:17,994
Speaker 4: the receivers. Get the young receivers some time in these

1873
01:21:18,074 --> 01:21:21,794
Speaker 4: last four games, the offensive lineman. They're probably going to

1874
01:21:21,874 --> 01:21:26,194
Speaker 4: continue this rotation thing with Austin and Bolden. Know, see

1875
01:21:26,234 --> 01:21:29,034
Speaker 4: if one of those two guys, you know, given that'll

1876
01:21:29,034 --> 01:21:31,154
Speaker 4: be like five games that you know you're going to

1877
01:21:31,194 --> 01:21:34,274
Speaker 4: give him thirty plus snaps in the secondary, you know,

1878
01:21:34,354 --> 01:21:36,194
Speaker 4: maybe maybe it got something. Yeah.

1879
01:21:36,194 --> 01:21:37,834
Speaker 5: I don't know if he's a starter in this league,

1880
01:21:37,834 --> 01:21:39,794
Speaker 5: but I think Alex Austin's played a lot of really

1881
01:21:40,834 --> 01:21:42,794
Speaker 5: competitive football. I don't know what to call it. Like,

1882
01:21:42,834 --> 01:21:45,034
Speaker 5: I'm not saying he's an elite corner, but like I.

1883
01:21:44,954 --> 01:21:46,714
Speaker 4: Thought he was good in the game the other day.

1884
01:21:46,754 --> 01:21:48,714
Speaker 4: I thought he really struggled before he got hurt.

1885
01:21:48,874 --> 01:21:50,434
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I agree with that.

1886
01:21:50,514 --> 01:21:52,674
Speaker 4: But Jets Jets game on the Thursday night was not

1887
01:21:52,714 --> 01:21:53,154
Speaker 4: a good game.

1888
01:21:53,274 --> 01:21:55,954
Speaker 5: No, I'd say towards the end of last year though

1889
01:21:56,034 --> 01:21:56,514
Speaker 5: he finished.

1890
01:21:56,514 --> 01:21:58,153
Speaker 4: I thought he fined a good game in Buffalo.

1891
01:21:58,234 --> 01:22:01,154
Speaker 5: Yeah, twenty three strong. He's come back from this injury

1892
01:22:01,194 --> 01:22:04,194
Speaker 5: and it has played well recently. Like all you need

1893
01:22:04,354 --> 01:22:07,234
Speaker 5: is that third rotational corner. Like it's not like you

1894
01:22:07,274 --> 01:22:12,194
Speaker 5: necessarily needed to be oh, you know, no fly zone right,

1895
01:22:12,234 --> 01:22:15,474
Speaker 5: lockdown secondary. So maybe that does for you up to

1896
01:22:15,514 --> 01:22:16,834
Speaker 5: go out and get a try.

1897
01:22:16,914 --> 01:22:19,074
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, that that was the question I got, As

1898
01:22:19,114 --> 01:22:21,714
Speaker 6: somebody said in the mail bag, was Alex Austin, you know,

1899
01:22:21,954 --> 01:22:25,074
Speaker 6: playing well last week and Marcus Jones playing well, like,

1900
01:22:25,234 --> 01:22:26,714
Speaker 6: you know, do you think that they could just roll

1901
01:22:26,714 --> 01:22:28,554
Speaker 6: with those guys next year? I said, in a perfect world,

1902
01:22:28,554 --> 01:22:31,034
Speaker 6: I think I'd rather add a real dog at CB

1903
01:22:31,114 --> 01:22:33,354
Speaker 6: two and Alex Austin is then your third and you

1904
01:22:33,394 --> 01:22:36,394
Speaker 6: know you can work Marcus Jones in in the slot

1905
01:22:36,394 --> 01:22:39,434
Speaker 6: when you can. Let's heat back to the TPX highline guys.

1906
01:22:39,634 --> 01:22:44,994
Speaker 6: Aiden from Plymouth is Backaiden, alright, well, yeah, you're on

1907
01:22:46,354 --> 01:22:46,714
Speaker 6: all right?

1908
01:22:46,754 --> 01:22:47,034
Speaker 14: Great?

1909
01:22:47,114 --> 01:22:50,754
Speaker 15: So Fred mentioned last week that people who are interested

1910
01:22:50,754 --> 01:22:53,274
Speaker 15: in Jersey should stay tuned like something might be coming.

1911
01:22:53,434 --> 01:22:55,034
Speaker 15: I have a lot of thoughts on jersey. So I

1912
01:22:55,034 --> 01:22:58,114
Speaker 15: want to go rapid fire, not like Cats twenty two

1913
01:22:58,194 --> 01:23:02,954
Speaker 15: rapid fire, but real rapid fire. So I've got I

1914
01:23:03,034 --> 01:23:05,474
Speaker 15: would love to see the nineties giant Elvis on the

1915
01:23:05,474 --> 01:23:08,554
Speaker 15: shoulder jerseys come back for retro at some point. I

1916
01:23:08,594 --> 01:23:10,434
Speaker 15: want to see him on the field. I'm too young

1917
01:23:10,474 --> 01:23:11,874
Speaker 15: to have seen it in person, but I think that'd

1918
01:23:11,914 --> 01:23:15,274
Speaker 15: be so cool. And then my main point is, if

1919
01:23:15,274 --> 01:23:17,874
Speaker 15: we're moving into a new era with this team, I

1920
01:23:17,874 --> 01:23:20,314
Speaker 15: think it makes sense to have a new jersey. Like

1921
01:23:20,554 --> 01:23:22,874
Speaker 15: I've got a red Grogan in my closet, I've got

1922
01:23:22,874 --> 01:23:26,234
Speaker 15: the blue ledso with the giant Elvis on it, You've

1923
01:23:26,234 --> 01:23:27,274
Speaker 15: got the Brady.

1924
01:23:28,674 --> 01:23:30,554
Speaker 13: Dynasty jerseys Reebok.

1925
01:23:30,194 --> 01:23:32,754
Speaker 11: And Nike, and then we've got the post Brady with

1926
01:23:32,834 --> 01:23:35,954
Speaker 11: the blueberries. I feel like I don't want those blueberries

1927
01:23:35,994 --> 01:23:38,514
Speaker 11: to be the ones that carry us through Drake Made's career.

1928
01:23:38,554 --> 01:23:40,914
Speaker 11: I want to get the jersey, uh that I'm gonna

1929
01:23:40,914 --> 01:23:43,834
Speaker 11: associate with him for the rest of his career. Right, So,

1930
01:23:44,154 --> 01:23:46,954
Speaker 11: I'm really excited about the idea of new jerseys. I've

1931
01:23:46,954 --> 01:23:49,674
Speaker 11: got a lot of ideas about them, and so what

1932
01:23:49,714 --> 01:23:51,674
Speaker 11: I would love to see is if you got mocked ups,

1933
01:23:52,114 --> 01:23:53,994
Speaker 11: you know, send him out there before there's decisions of

1934
01:23:54,074 --> 01:23:56,794
Speaker 11: fans can react and you can see what people think.

1935
01:23:57,354 --> 01:23:59,994
Speaker 11: I think people often see new jerseys and then they

1936
01:24:00,034 --> 01:24:01,834
Speaker 11: all of a sudden say, you know what, we don't

1937
01:24:01,874 --> 01:24:04,234
Speaker 11: like else who wish there was a decision made with

1938
01:24:04,314 --> 01:24:05,274
Speaker 11: some input from fantasy.

1939
01:24:05,274 --> 01:24:07,474
Speaker 15: If you're going to pick the same thing anyways, just

1940
01:24:07,554 --> 01:24:09,714
Speaker 15: throw him out there and get some feedback. Or if

1941
01:24:09,754 --> 01:24:11,754
Speaker 15: you don't want to get feedback from everyone, you know,

1942
01:24:12,034 --> 01:24:14,954
Speaker 15: invite me and I'll come and give my ideas. They'll

1943
01:24:14,954 --> 01:24:17,314
Speaker 15: sign an NDA and maybe you show me the trophy room.

1944
01:24:18,914 --> 01:24:19,314
Speaker 4: Sounds good.

1945
01:24:20,354 --> 01:24:21,834
Speaker 6: We'll be in touch. We'll get those mock ups to

1946
01:24:21,914 --> 01:24:25,194
Speaker 6: you as soon as we can. But I like that,

1947
01:24:25,354 --> 01:24:27,994
Speaker 6: I like I look. I think like Unfortunately, unfortunately, I

1948
01:24:28,034 --> 01:24:31,274
Speaker 6: think the Blueberries are fast becoming the three win Patriot jerseys,

1949
01:24:31,274 --> 01:24:32,834
Speaker 6: you know, and I think at some point he's right, like,

1950
01:24:32,874 --> 01:24:35,154
Speaker 6: they're gonna let's rebrand now we got this.

1951
01:24:35,234 --> 01:24:36,794
Speaker 5: You know, you just don't like them. I don't care

1952
01:24:36,794 --> 01:24:38,514
Speaker 5: how much winning they do and them, I just don't

1953
01:24:38,554 --> 01:24:40,154
Speaker 5: like them. I'm gonna be honest.

1954
01:24:40,314 --> 01:24:42,634
Speaker 6: I just think that they they were a nice all

1955
01:24:42,714 --> 01:24:43,794
Speaker 6: jersey I thought once a year.

1956
01:24:43,834 --> 01:24:44,554
Speaker 4: I don't I don't know.

1957
01:24:44,754 --> 01:24:47,234
Speaker 5: I just it reminds me of Willy Wonka.

1958
01:24:48,074 --> 01:24:52,274
Speaker 4: It's hard because they haven't won. Yeah, you don't know.

1959
01:24:52,314 --> 01:24:58,314
Speaker 6: If they it turns into you're turning violent, Violet. I

1960
01:24:58,394 --> 01:25:00,954
Speaker 6: knew would. Danny's down in Daytona. Hey Danny, you're on

1961
01:25:00,954 --> 01:25:02,194
Speaker 6: the TP outline, which tucks.

1962
01:25:04,554 --> 01:25:05,954
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1963
01:25:07,194 --> 01:25:07,394
Speaker 16: Yeah.

1964
01:25:08,034 --> 01:25:09,914
Speaker 13: I have a couple of takes for you guys today.

1965
01:25:11,234 --> 01:25:13,674
Speaker 13: The three, well, probably the four takes I have.

1966
01:25:13,794 --> 01:25:18,314
Speaker 17: The first one is I don't like Bill going to

1967
01:25:18,434 --> 01:25:21,314
Speaker 17: the University of North Carolina. I think that's kind of weird.

1968
01:25:22,114 --> 01:25:24,754
Speaker 17: I agree with all the former players. They're Brady and

1969
01:25:25,394 --> 01:25:30,914
Speaker 17: from Kowski and Edelman were on Fox Showdown on Sunday

1970
01:25:31,074 --> 01:25:32,554
Speaker 17: and they were talking about it. They don't think it's

1971
01:25:32,554 --> 01:25:34,594
Speaker 17: gonna happen, and if it did, it'd be really weird.

1972
01:25:34,994 --> 01:25:37,394
Speaker 17: But that's my take on the Belichick there. I think

1973
01:25:37,394 --> 01:25:40,034
Speaker 17: he should just try to aim in in the NFL

1974
01:25:40,074 --> 01:25:42,034
Speaker 17: as best as he can if he can't get planned

1975
01:25:42,074 --> 01:25:45,394
Speaker 17: a job. The other two takes, the I was a

1976
01:25:45,474 --> 01:25:48,714
Speaker 17: freeing to report this morning that Jack Andrews is projected

1977
01:25:48,714 --> 01:25:52,634
Speaker 17: to be coming back early in the off season during

1978
01:25:53,074 --> 01:25:56,834
Speaker 17: probably before ot as. They said, he's hit that ministerstare,

1979
01:25:56,874 --> 01:25:58,954
Speaker 17: but he looks like he's making their cover. So I

1980
01:25:58,994 --> 01:26:01,354
Speaker 17: would really like to see him come back and push

1981
01:26:01,474 --> 01:26:05,314
Speaker 17: more a the center spot if if Andrews doesn't come back,

1982
01:26:05,354 --> 01:26:07,594
Speaker 17: and even if Andrews does come back, I would like

1983
01:26:07,674 --> 01:26:10,674
Speaker 17: to kind of see Andrews mentorm so that way Jack

1984
01:26:10,714 --> 01:26:12,154
Speaker 17: Andrews can kind of get in there and hit the

1985
01:26:12,154 --> 01:26:15,794
Speaker 17: ground running and the offense listen, and maybe we keep

1986
01:26:15,834 --> 01:26:18,034
Speaker 17: Ben Brown just as you know, a third option.

1987
01:26:18,434 --> 01:26:22,034
Speaker 16: I think having you know, the center's important, so having

1988
01:26:22,114 --> 01:26:24,434
Speaker 16: him and Jack Andrews would be good. And maybe David

1989
01:26:24,434 --> 01:26:27,714
Speaker 16: if he comes back. And then the other the other two.

1990
01:26:27,554 --> 01:26:29,674
Speaker 13: Takes I got. The last before head off.

1991
01:26:30,034 --> 01:26:33,674
Speaker 16: Is uh, durs gonna add a senior advisor to the

1992
01:26:33,714 --> 01:26:36,554
Speaker 16: defensive staff or he needs to. He needs to kind

1993
01:26:36,554 --> 01:26:40,314
Speaker 16: of man up and uh tell his boys, you know,

1994
01:26:41,274 --> 01:26:44,434
Speaker 16: DeMarcus Coepington, it really hasn't worked out that great, and

1995
01:26:44,834 --> 01:26:46,794
Speaker 16: kind of give him an option. Either demote him on

1996
01:26:46,834 --> 01:26:49,074
Speaker 16: the staff back down the defensive line. I know that's

1997
01:26:49,114 --> 01:26:52,794
Speaker 16: you know, not really it doesn't really happen. But given

1998
01:26:52,834 --> 01:26:55,594
Speaker 16: the option, either he gets demoted, or he and they

1999
01:26:55,674 --> 01:26:58,154
Speaker 16: bring in a new guy to be the coordinator, or

2000
01:26:58,674 --> 01:27:02,314
Speaker 16: possibly he just he's gone all together I would throw

2001
01:27:02,354 --> 01:27:03,914
Speaker 16: those options on the table and see what the market

2002
01:27:04,034 --> 01:27:07,954
Speaker 16: wants to do, and then the last take. I've just

2003
01:27:07,994 --> 01:27:11,474
Speaker 16: seen this report that they did. KG Osborne is also gone.

2004
01:27:12,314 --> 01:27:17,034
Speaker 6: Yeah cool, Thanks Danny. How would you guys feel Andrews

2005
01:27:17,074 --> 01:27:20,554
Speaker 6: comes back, Andrews, Ben Brown, Jake Andrews as your center's

2006
01:27:20,594 --> 01:27:21,394
Speaker 6: going to training camera.

2007
01:27:21,594 --> 01:27:24,154
Speaker 5: I think you'd probably have to throw all change into

2008
01:27:24,194 --> 01:27:27,274
Speaker 5: that mix too. On a team that doesn't have a

2009
01:27:27,274 --> 01:27:30,634
Speaker 5: lot of depth across the roster, center is in just

2010
01:27:30,754 --> 01:27:34,874
Speaker 5: interior offensive line in general, I feel like they have

2011
01:27:34,914 --> 01:27:36,514
Speaker 5: a lot of bodies and I don't know if any

2012
01:27:36,554 --> 01:27:38,954
Speaker 5: of them can actually play, but they have a lot

2013
01:27:38,994 --> 01:27:41,514
Speaker 5: of bodies, you know, between the last couple of drafts

2014
01:27:41,554 --> 01:27:44,474
Speaker 5: and everything, so it's one spot where you have to

2015
01:27:44,554 --> 01:27:46,634
Speaker 5: let some of the kids play and see who sings

2016
01:27:46,634 --> 01:27:49,914
Speaker 5: and swims and not really add I don't think you know,

2017
01:27:49,914 --> 01:27:52,994
Speaker 5: there's a lot of on Patriots Twitter talk about like

2018
01:27:53,314 --> 01:27:55,714
Speaker 5: signing Tray Smith from Kansas City who is a really

2019
01:27:55,714 --> 01:27:58,514
Speaker 5: good guard or something like that, and it's like, I mean,

2020
01:27:58,554 --> 01:28:01,074
Speaker 5: I don't know, You've just invested all sorts of draft

2021
01:28:01,074 --> 01:28:03,354
Speaker 5: capital into the interior spots.

2022
01:28:03,554 --> 01:28:06,994
Speaker 6: What positions would you guys include as we don't need to,

2023
01:28:07,194 --> 01:28:09,034
Speaker 6: like we can let this last. I know there may

2024
01:28:09,074 --> 01:28:10,794
Speaker 6: not be many, but I would agree with you on

2025
01:28:10,914 --> 01:28:13,914
Speaker 6: like guard center, like probably don't need to overextend yourself.

2026
01:28:13,914 --> 01:28:17,674
Speaker 6: Maybe late round flyers not included, but yeah, free agency

2027
01:28:18,394 --> 01:28:21,074
Speaker 6: priorities and draft pick first two days. Are there any

2028
01:28:21,074 --> 01:28:23,954
Speaker 6: positions you would say they're they're good safety? Maybe running back,

2029
01:28:24,114 --> 01:28:24,674
Speaker 6: running back?

2030
01:28:24,994 --> 01:28:27,314
Speaker 5: I could see them putting. You know, you can always

2031
01:28:27,434 --> 01:28:29,194
Speaker 5: you can never have too many guys that can run

2032
01:28:29,234 --> 01:28:32,554
Speaker 5: the ball just to have around. But I mean you

2033
01:28:32,754 --> 01:28:35,754
Speaker 5: invested in both from Andre stevensan A Antonio Gibson on

2034
01:28:35,834 --> 01:28:39,154
Speaker 5: multi year contracts. I just I don't see a path

2035
01:28:39,274 --> 01:28:43,634
Speaker 5: for another high investment there where now you have three

2036
01:28:43,714 --> 01:28:45,674
Speaker 5: running backs that you're trying to get on the field.

2037
01:28:45,794 --> 01:28:48,514
Speaker 5: Like Gibson's role is already probably smaller than he wants

2038
01:28:48,514 --> 01:28:51,114
Speaker 5: it to be to begin with. So you know, I

2039
01:28:51,394 --> 01:28:54,114
Speaker 5: know that there's a lot of Ashton Gentry love out there,

2040
01:28:54,314 --> 01:28:57,314
Speaker 5: or you know, uh, Drake May's guy down in at

2041
01:28:57,354 --> 01:29:00,314
Speaker 5: North Carolina Marion Hampton. But like, you have all these

2042
01:29:00,354 --> 01:29:02,874
Speaker 5: backs in the draft, so maybe you go and pick

2043
01:29:02,874 --> 01:29:04,634
Speaker 5: one in the sixth and seventh round, you know, just

2044
01:29:04,634 --> 01:29:06,954
Speaker 5: to keep the stable there. But I don't. I don't

2045
01:29:06,954 --> 01:29:08,154
Speaker 5: see any need to use anything.

2046
01:29:08,234 --> 01:29:10,754
Speaker 4: You know, you guys know, I don't gush yeah in

2047
01:29:10,834 --> 01:29:13,874
Speaker 4: general terms, except for like maybe like Mahomes and Allen

2048
01:29:14,034 --> 01:29:15,354
Speaker 4: those guys.

2049
01:29:15,354 --> 01:29:17,674
Speaker 6: Marcus Jones pump returns.

2050
01:29:16,954 --> 01:29:22,554
Speaker 4: Marcus Jones pump return I do gush about that. Did

2051
01:29:22,554 --> 01:29:26,354
Speaker 4: you ever watch the kid cam Scattaboo from Arizona State player?

2052
01:29:29,114 --> 01:29:33,794
Speaker 4: I don't have any idea if what what he'll I mean, no, no, no, no,

2053
01:29:33,954 --> 01:29:35,874
Speaker 4: I know where he's gonna get drafted. I don't know

2054
01:29:35,874 --> 01:29:37,034
Speaker 4: what kind of impact he'll have.

2055
01:29:37,594 --> 01:29:39,394
Speaker 6: Tell us about him, Paul's.

2056
01:29:41,994 --> 01:29:44,554
Speaker 4: Let's pretend. Let's pretend that Mike doesn't know who this is.

2057
01:29:46,434 --> 01:29:50,034
Speaker 4: You can't tackle them, you can't tackle them like he

2058
01:29:50,194 --> 01:29:53,394
Speaker 4: just like breaks he breaks like five tackles every run.

2059
01:29:53,434 --> 01:29:56,474
Speaker 4: He's one of those kids that just refuses to go down.

2060
01:29:57,034 --> 01:29:58,994
Speaker 5: He's not he's.

2061
01:29:58,834 --> 01:30:02,194
Speaker 4: Not overly fast, he's not overly athletic. He doesn't really

2062
01:30:02,194 --> 01:30:04,154
Speaker 4: have a great body, and he lost a lot of

2063
01:30:04,154 --> 01:30:08,434
Speaker 4: weight to get the body that he has. Kind of

2064
01:30:08,834 --> 01:30:15,154
Speaker 4: comes across kind of douchey, but he's unbelievably productive. Uh

2065
01:30:15,234 --> 01:30:18,274
Speaker 4: And I just like, just as a college player, I

2066
01:30:18,514 --> 01:30:22,154
Speaker 4: wouldn't want to draft him. I wouldn't and Evan. I

2067
01:30:22,154 --> 01:30:26,474
Speaker 4: think Evan's right, probably a Day three pick. It's funny

2068
01:30:26,474 --> 01:30:28,594
Speaker 4: because we were watching the game Saturday. Beth is watching

2069
01:30:28,674 --> 01:30:30,794
Speaker 4: with me and she goes, well, maybe the Patriots didn't

2070
01:30:30,794 --> 01:30:32,834
Speaker 4: get him. I go, yeah. On the last day of

2071
01:30:32,874 --> 01:30:34,394
Speaker 4: the trap just goes, what do you mean? I go,

2072
01:30:34,754 --> 01:30:36,474
Speaker 4: this guy's not going to go in the first round.

2073
01:30:36,714 --> 01:30:37,154
Speaker 3: No way.

2074
01:30:37,354 --> 01:30:40,554
Speaker 5: Yeah. I would say probably like a fringe top one

2075
01:30:40,634 --> 01:30:43,314
Speaker 5: hundred pick, like third or fourth round projection for him.

2076
01:30:43,354 --> 01:30:46,354
Speaker 4: But it's a great story, like no one wanted him,

2077
01:30:46,554 --> 01:30:49,074
Speaker 4: he got Sacramento State was like the only school that

2078
01:30:49,114 --> 01:30:54,074
Speaker 4: offered him anything. He ended up transferring, and then one

2079
01:30:54,114 --> 01:30:57,114
Speaker 4: of the coaches on that young kid's staff, Kenny Dillingham's

2080
01:30:57,114 --> 01:31:00,354
Speaker 4: staff ye played against him and goes, you got to

2081
01:31:00,354 --> 01:31:02,994
Speaker 4: get him in the portals he can play, and now

2082
01:31:02,994 --> 01:31:05,594
Speaker 4: he's like the sole reason why Arizona State they have

2083
01:31:05,634 --> 01:31:10,074
Speaker 4: a really good receiver in him, and that's kind of it. Yeah,

2084
01:31:10,074 --> 01:31:12,314
Speaker 4: the quarterbacks got a little moxie. I kind of like him.

2085
01:31:12,474 --> 01:31:12,674
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2086
01:31:12,754 --> 01:31:15,514
Speaker 5: I think the biggest issue that I have with guys

2087
01:31:15,554 --> 01:31:19,554
Speaker 5: like Skataboo is that like he's not an NFL prospect to.

2088
01:31:19,554 --> 01:31:21,834
Speaker 4: Me, he's not an athlete, but athlete.

2089
01:31:21,954 --> 01:31:24,954
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, but he's a great college player. Oh yeah,

2090
01:31:25,274 --> 01:31:27,994
Speaker 5: at all these college football people that are just telling me.

2091
01:31:27,954 --> 01:31:29,074
Speaker 3: How you got, I'm glad.

2092
01:31:29,114 --> 01:31:29,794
Speaker 4: I'm glad I did it.

2093
01:31:29,834 --> 01:31:34,674
Speaker 5: That Arizona State you gotta watch. And I'm like, who, like,

2094
01:31:34,674 --> 01:31:36,674
Speaker 5: like Peyton hillis like you know, like.

2095
01:31:37,074 --> 01:31:41,474
Speaker 4: It's there's Peyton Hillis Peyton Hill. That's what remind Toby

2096
01:31:41,514 --> 01:31:45,914
Speaker 4: Gearhart like maybe like Toby Gearhout was probably better than

2097
01:31:46,834 --> 01:31:47,154
Speaker 4: on a.

2098
01:31:47,194 --> 01:31:51,154
Speaker 5: Real like the the high ceiling ceiling You're.

2099
01:31:51,034 --> 01:31:53,234
Speaker 4: Silf a favorite and ask Fred about Toby Gearhut.

2100
01:31:54,194 --> 01:31:57,674
Speaker 5: The ceiling projection for him is that that people like

2101
01:31:58,074 --> 01:31:59,914
Speaker 5: try to gas him up with his Mike al Start

2102
01:32:00,234 --> 01:32:02,834
Speaker 5: And I'm just like, Okay, first of all, Michael Start

2103
01:32:02,874 --> 01:32:05,314
Speaker 5: was awesome, but second of all, that was thirty years ago.

2104
01:32:05,474 --> 01:32:06,954
Speaker 5: That mikeel Star was awesome.

2105
01:32:07,394 --> 01:32:09,434
Speaker 4: Like I don't think he could be that kind of

2106
01:32:09,514 --> 01:32:10,714
Speaker 4: don't think he's that big, is he?

2107
01:32:10,834 --> 01:32:12,434
Speaker 5: No, He's not that good.

2108
01:32:12,554 --> 01:32:14,594
Speaker 6: That is what I kind of do enjoy about, like

2109
01:32:14,674 --> 01:32:16,834
Speaker 6: just flipping on college football games so there'll be one

2110
01:32:16,834 --> 01:32:18,714
Speaker 6: guy sometimes so he's just like this guy's way better

2111
01:32:18,754 --> 01:32:19,474
Speaker 6: than everybody else.

2112
01:32:19,514 --> 01:32:21,074
Speaker 4: But I really like, I mean, I have to. I

2113
01:32:21,114 --> 01:32:21,754
Speaker 4: have to be honest.

2114
01:32:21,794 --> 01:32:22,194
Speaker 6: It's not.

2115
01:32:22,314 --> 01:32:24,674
Speaker 4: You guys know I'm It's not my thing, right, it's not.

2116
01:32:25,594 --> 01:32:27,834
Speaker 4: But the running back thing is not my thing. The

2117
01:32:28,154 --> 01:32:31,074
Speaker 4: scrappy overachiever is not generally my thing. That's why Fred

2118
01:32:31,074 --> 01:32:33,314
Speaker 4: makes fun of me. I called my all jeff Rye team,

2119
01:32:33,554 --> 01:32:36,834
Speaker 4: Like I would just say, I really enjoy watching that

2120
01:32:36,834 --> 01:32:40,154
Speaker 4: guy play. He's like a really good college player.

2121
01:32:40,234 --> 01:32:42,154
Speaker 5: He probably should have been a Heisman finalist.

2122
01:32:42,434 --> 01:32:43,474
Speaker 4: I can't believe he wasn't.

2123
01:32:43,514 --> 01:32:43,954
Speaker 5: But he's not.

2124
01:32:44,074 --> 01:32:44,954
Speaker 6: I'm gonna watch this guy.

2125
01:32:45,154 --> 01:32:47,234
Speaker 4: I can't believe he wasn't. Well, he'll probably get shut

2126
01:32:47,274 --> 01:32:49,194
Speaker 4: down because they're gonna play a real team.

2127
01:32:49,474 --> 01:32:51,354
Speaker 5: So is the Bois State running back.

2128
01:32:51,434 --> 01:32:52,114
Speaker 4: Oh, I know, I know.

2129
01:32:52,354 --> 01:32:54,314
Speaker 5: I think he'll get shut down to I don't know

2130
01:32:54,314 --> 01:32:57,794
Speaker 5: about shut down because I think he's better than this guy.

2131
01:32:57,754 --> 01:33:01,354
Speaker 4: Always get more like he gets. The thing about Scatable

2132
01:33:01,434 --> 01:33:04,554
Speaker 4: was he doesn't have breakaway speed, so like his forty

2133
01:33:04,634 --> 01:33:08,034
Speaker 4: yard runs require ten broken tackles, and he gets a

2134
01:33:08,034 --> 01:33:11,034
Speaker 4: lot of them. But like, like he had two runs

2135
01:33:11,114 --> 01:33:13,794
Speaker 4: in that game against Iowa State the other day that

2136
01:33:14,274 --> 01:33:16,834
Speaker 4: the gent guy with the same amount of space would

2137
01:33:16,874 --> 01:33:19,994
Speaker 4: have taken the house, and he just can't do it.

2138
01:33:20,554 --> 01:33:23,754
Speaker 5: Is talented, he's really good. I'm actually fascinated to see

2139
01:33:23,754 --> 01:33:27,034
Speaker 5: how he does in the playoff because look, let's face it,

2140
01:33:27,074 --> 01:33:30,874
Speaker 5: he's playing the Mountain West, it's Boise State, it's not

2141
01:33:30,994 --> 01:33:33,754
Speaker 5: exactly like they're playing in the SEC. And he's got

2142
01:33:33,794 --> 01:33:36,594
Speaker 5: all these great defenses he's facing every week. But he

2143
01:33:36,634 --> 01:33:39,314
Speaker 5: did go up against Oregon and he put the same

2144
01:33:39,394 --> 01:33:42,434
Speaker 5: numbers up against Oregon as he did everybody else that

2145
01:33:42,474 --> 01:33:45,994
Speaker 5: he's played all year. So maybe he's teacherly is just special.

2146
01:33:45,674 --> 01:33:48,634
Speaker 4: Now, Mike, I know you probably don't care. And I've

2147
01:33:48,674 --> 01:33:56,834
Speaker 4: seen thoughts of on the final bracket, the twelve team playoff,

2148
01:33:56,954 --> 01:34:00,554
Speaker 4: and you know the many, many controversy with s m

2149
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Speaker 4: U and L I have.

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01:34:01,874 --> 01:34:04,634
Speaker 5: I have two thoughts on the bracket. The first thought

2151
01:34:04,754 --> 01:34:05,994
Speaker 5: is facilitation.

2152
01:34:06,554 --> 01:34:07,594
Speaker 4: I learned it from watching film.

2153
01:34:07,674 --> 01:34:09,594
Speaker 5: I have two thoughts and I'm pretty strong on both

2154
01:34:09,634 --> 01:34:12,634
Speaker 5: of them. So the first thought that I have is

2155
01:34:13,234 --> 01:34:17,794
Speaker 5: the buye system needs to be changed, like Arizona State

2156
01:34:17,874 --> 01:34:20,714
Speaker 5: and Boise State should not have buys. You know, I

2157
01:34:20,754 --> 01:34:22,914
Speaker 5: just looked at the bracket, like Texas and Penn State

2158
01:34:22,994 --> 01:34:26,034
Speaker 5: should be or the three and four ranked teams in

2159
01:34:26,074 --> 01:34:28,514
Speaker 5: the country, but they do not have the buys. The

2160
01:34:28,554 --> 01:34:31,514
Speaker 5: buys went to eleven I think ten and eleven or

2161
01:34:31,634 --> 01:34:35,274
Speaker 5: Arizona State and Boise State, so they somehow get the buys,

2162
01:34:35,674 --> 01:34:38,154
Speaker 5: which now means that, you know, good for Penn State

2163
01:34:38,474 --> 01:34:40,954
Speaker 5: because Penn State has a cake walk to the semi

2164
01:34:40,954 --> 01:34:44,034
Speaker 5: final now pretty much if they take care of business

2165
01:34:44,034 --> 01:34:46,834
Speaker 5: as they should, so they have a nice easy schedule.

2166
01:34:46,874 --> 01:34:49,554
Speaker 5: It's Indiana and then they played would play Boise State

2167
01:34:49,594 --> 01:34:53,234
Speaker 5: in the quarterfinal. So I just the buys need to change.

2168
01:34:53,554 --> 01:34:55,634
Speaker 5: And the other thing is is that it depends and

2169
01:34:55,674 --> 01:34:57,154
Speaker 5: I know you were you know, we were talking about

2170
01:34:57,194 --> 01:35:01,514
Speaker 5: Jim Nagy's tweet earlier. It depends on your rooting interest, right.

2171
01:35:01,674 --> 01:35:04,154
Speaker 5: My rooting interest when it comes to college football playoff

2172
01:35:04,594 --> 01:35:06,994
Speaker 5: is the draft. Like I want to see all the

2173
01:35:07,034 --> 01:35:10,514
Speaker 5: top prospects in this upcoming draft on the biggest possible

2174
01:35:10,554 --> 01:35:14,354
Speaker 5: stage against the best possible competition because there's nothing closer

2175
01:35:14,674 --> 01:35:18,194
Speaker 5: that you'll get to the NFL for these guys, and

2176
01:35:18,274 --> 01:35:21,074
Speaker 5: watching how they perform in the College Football Playoff.

2177
01:35:20,834 --> 01:35:24,354
Speaker 4: Like that's yeah, I wouldn't disagree with that. And just

2178
01:35:24,394 --> 01:35:26,594
Speaker 4: so people they might not know, Jim Nagy had a

2179
01:35:26,634 --> 01:35:30,794
Speaker 4: tweet over the weekend sort of because everything is about

2180
01:35:30,834 --> 01:35:33,114
Speaker 4: the Senior Bowl, which he's the only one who cares about.

2181
01:35:33,394 --> 01:35:36,754
Speaker 4: But he runs, he runs the Senior Bowl, and he's

2182
01:35:36,794 --> 01:35:38,914
Speaker 4: talking about all the different guys from all the different

2183
01:35:38,914 --> 01:35:41,234
Speaker 4: teams that have been invited to the Senior Bowl and

2184
01:35:41,314 --> 01:35:44,073
Speaker 4: have like first round grades. And if you go by,

2185
01:35:44,474 --> 01:35:47,794
Speaker 4: you know, the the NFL talent, you know, and I

2186
01:35:47,834 --> 01:35:49,434
Speaker 4: don't have all the teams in front of me, but

2187
01:35:49,474 --> 01:35:51,474
Speaker 4: these are the teams that should be there. But that's

2188
01:35:51,474 --> 01:35:53,834
Speaker 4: not how it works, Jim. You go by the teams

2189
01:35:53,834 --> 01:35:55,514
Speaker 4: that played the best during the course of the season.

2190
01:35:55,554 --> 01:35:58,914
Speaker 4: If it was just about the best recruiting classes every year,

2191
01:35:58,954 --> 01:36:01,514
Speaker 4: Like where do you think Florida State's recruiting class was?

2192
01:36:01,674 --> 01:36:02,234
Speaker 6: It was pretty good?

2193
01:36:02,274 --> 01:36:04,154
Speaker 4: They won one game? Like should they be in the

2194
01:36:04,234 --> 01:36:08,034
Speaker 4: should they be in there too? Like if you want

2195
01:36:08,034 --> 01:36:11,594
Speaker 4: to tell me Alabama should go over SMU, I don't

2196
01:36:11,634 --> 01:36:14,434
Speaker 4: think I have a strong argument for or against that.

2197
01:36:15,154 --> 01:36:18,314
Speaker 4: But one of my arguments for Alabama isn't that there's

2198
01:36:18,354 --> 01:36:21,314
Speaker 4: going to be more NFL players on that Alabama team.

2199
01:36:21,314 --> 01:36:23,594
Speaker 4: Then there will be off at SMU. That shouldn't matter.

2200
01:36:24,514 --> 01:36:26,554
Speaker 4: That shouldn't matter. It should be who who do you

2201
01:36:26,634 --> 01:36:30,034
Speaker 4: think played best over the balance of the season. Alabama

2202
01:36:30,034 --> 01:36:33,154
Speaker 4: would tell you we played in the SEC, we lost

2203
01:36:33,154 --> 01:36:35,834
Speaker 4: three games because we played in a tougher schedule, and

2204
01:36:36,114 --> 01:36:38,914
Speaker 4: SMU would tell you we really only lost one game

2205
01:36:38,954 --> 01:36:41,434
Speaker 4: all year with our starting quarterback. In that game, we

2206
01:36:41,474 --> 01:36:43,914
Speaker 4: lost on a fifty whatever yardfield. Go at the buzzer

2207
01:36:44,554 --> 01:36:47,914
Speaker 4: and the conference championship game. Don't penalize us for losing

2208
01:36:48,034 --> 01:36:50,834
Speaker 4: in the conference championship game that Alabama didn't have to

2209
01:36:50,834 --> 01:36:54,914
Speaker 4: play in because why they didn't qualify for it. So

2210
01:36:55,434 --> 01:36:57,474
Speaker 4: it shouldn't have anything to do with the amount of number,

2211
01:36:57,634 --> 01:37:01,674
Speaker 4: you know, number one potential overall picks or NFL players.

2212
01:37:01,714 --> 01:37:03,794
Speaker 4: I get what Evans saying. I want to see that too.

2213
01:37:04,314 --> 01:37:05,914
Speaker 4: I want to see as many players that I think

2214
01:37:05,954 --> 01:37:08,314
Speaker 4: are going to be playing on Sundays when I watched

2215
01:37:08,314 --> 01:37:10,274
Speaker 4: the playoffs two. But you got to reward the teams

2216
01:37:10,274 --> 01:37:12,754
Speaker 4: that won the game, like Indiana should be in the

2217
01:37:12,954 --> 01:37:13,594
Speaker 4: in the plays.

2218
01:37:13,634 --> 01:37:15,754
Speaker 5: And I'm coming at it from an NFL perspective. So

2219
01:37:15,754 --> 01:37:17,794
Speaker 5: that's why I feel that way, is that the draft

2220
01:37:17,834 --> 01:37:19,394
Speaker 5: is what is important to me. And if I was

2221
01:37:19,434 --> 01:37:21,674
Speaker 5: a college football person, then I would be on Paul

2222
01:37:21,754 --> 01:37:23,954
Speaker 5: side of the street saying that, well, SMU had a

2223
01:37:23,954 --> 01:37:26,714
Speaker 5: better season than now Alabama. But at the end of

2224
01:37:26,754 --> 01:37:28,874
Speaker 5: the day, and I get that all we're doing is

2225
01:37:28,914 --> 01:37:31,794
Speaker 5: saying that, you know, in theory, like what do we

2226
01:37:31,874 --> 01:37:35,474
Speaker 5: believe would happen, Alabama would beat SMU, And it's straight

2227
01:37:35,554 --> 01:37:36,074
Speaker 5: up right.

2228
01:37:35,994 --> 01:37:38,874
Speaker 4: Like maybe they lost to Vanda Built in Oklahoma.

2229
01:37:38,634 --> 01:37:42,634
Speaker 5: I guess, but I by Oklahoma. I feel like Alabama

2230
01:37:42,634 --> 01:37:46,234
Speaker 5: would beat SMU, they'd beat Indiana, I feel like they'd

2231
01:37:46,234 --> 01:37:49,034
Speaker 5: beat Arizona State, And like, I get it, like that's

2232
01:37:49,074 --> 01:37:51,674
Speaker 5: not the system, And I totally get that that's not

2233
01:37:51,754 --> 01:37:54,954
Speaker 5: the system. But it's just as somebody that's just doesn't

2234
01:37:54,994 --> 01:37:57,954
Speaker 5: really have a strong rooting interest for any of these teams.

2235
01:37:58,194 --> 01:37:59,874
Speaker 5: I just want to see the twelve best teams, and

2236
01:37:59,914 --> 01:38:02,194
Speaker 5: I don't know if we necessarily got twelve best team.

2237
01:38:02,314 --> 01:38:04,794
Speaker 4: Yeah. So here's here's another thing that sort of bugged me.

2238
01:38:04,794 --> 01:38:07,514
Speaker 4: And it's first of all, I absolutely love this twelve

2239
01:38:07,514 --> 01:38:12,194
Speaker 4: team thing because I'd much rather have a knockdown, drag

2240
01:38:12,194 --> 01:38:15,474
Speaker 4: out argument with someone over SMU Alabama twelve and thirteen,

2241
01:38:16,114 --> 01:38:18,674
Speaker 4: you know, then four and five, Yeah, which is what

2242
01:38:18,674 --> 01:38:23,554
Speaker 4: we've had and before that even worse. So I really

2243
01:38:23,634 --> 01:38:26,114
Speaker 4: like this this format. I think every right about the buys.

2244
01:38:26,154 --> 01:38:29,634
Speaker 4: Eliminate the buys, I mean, eliminate the automatic buye. I mean,

2245
01:38:29,874 --> 01:38:31,634
Speaker 4: I know, if you have twelve, you have the four

2246
01:38:31,674 --> 01:38:33,474
Speaker 4: teams that have a buy. But they should be the

2247
01:38:33,514 --> 01:38:39,394
Speaker 4: first full of seeds, not the conference champions automatic. Why

2248
01:38:39,474 --> 01:38:41,714
Speaker 4: is there no like Penn State's five?

2249
01:38:41,834 --> 01:38:41,994
Speaker 13: Right?

2250
01:38:42,154 --> 01:38:46,674
Speaker 5: You said Penn State's I think four? So yeah, it's yeah,

2251
01:38:46,754 --> 01:38:52,594
Speaker 5: it's uh, Oregon, Georgia, Texas and Penn State.

2252
01:38:52,634 --> 01:38:57,194
Speaker 4: Okay, so Penn State. We want to go on schedules, right?

2253
01:38:57,354 --> 01:39:00,594
Speaker 4: And who you beat? SMU? Who'd you beat? Who Penn

2254
01:39:00,634 --> 01:39:01,194
Speaker 4: State beat?

2255
01:39:01,994 --> 01:39:03,554
Speaker 6: I don't know. I don't watch college football.

2256
01:39:04,074 --> 01:39:05,074
Speaker 4: No one, no one.

2257
01:39:05,114 --> 01:39:06,634
Speaker 5: Okay, they haven't played it there.

2258
01:39:06,594 --> 01:39:10,314
Speaker 4: They didn't. They didn't play Indiana. No, and they lost

2259
01:39:10,354 --> 01:39:16,434
Speaker 4: to Ohio State. Michigan stinks. That's probably their best win.

2260
01:39:16,914 --> 01:39:19,274
Speaker 4: They gave up forty five points to Oregon in the

2261
01:39:19,274 --> 01:39:22,794
Speaker 4: conference championship game. They're supposed to be a defense oriented team.

2262
01:39:23,434 --> 01:39:25,914
Speaker 4: Why does no one complain about where this or why

2263
01:39:25,954 --> 01:39:28,194
Speaker 4: they've been I'll tell you why, Mike. I'm glad you asked.

2264
01:39:28,834 --> 01:39:30,914
Speaker 4: Because it's all about the big ten in the SEC

2265
01:39:31,474 --> 01:39:36,754
Speaker 4: right last year? No, No, but because they had to because

2266
01:39:36,754 --> 01:39:39,594
Speaker 4: of all the slack that took last year. Florida State

2267
01:39:39,674 --> 01:39:42,594
Speaker 4: last year went undefeated. It's about winning games, right, They

2268
01:39:42,634 --> 01:39:43,594
Speaker 4: lost their quarterback?

2269
01:39:43,674 --> 01:39:46,114
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree. I agreed with right decision at the time.

2270
01:39:46,154 --> 01:39:46,354
Speaker 10: Though.

2271
01:39:46,514 --> 01:39:49,874
Speaker 4: No, no, I do too. No talk about Georgia.

2272
01:39:51,154 --> 01:39:53,874
Speaker 5: That's an interesting situation. It doesn't sound like he's going

2273
01:39:53,954 --> 01:39:54,394
Speaker 5: to be ready.

2274
01:39:54,474 --> 01:39:54,594
Speaker 6: Now.

2275
01:39:54,634 --> 01:39:56,634
Speaker 4: I know that that's an automatic bid, so it's not

2276
01:39:56,714 --> 01:40:01,194
Speaker 4: the same thing. But forget the automatic bid. If they

2277
01:40:01,234 --> 01:40:03,874
Speaker 4: if they lost in overtime to Texas. Do you think

2278
01:40:03,914 --> 01:40:06,274
Speaker 4: there's any way Georgia wouldn't be in the playoff with

2279
01:40:06,354 --> 01:40:08,954
Speaker 4: three losses. They're still of course they would have been

2280
01:40:08,994 --> 01:40:11,274
Speaker 4: in because they wouldn't have penalize them for losing the

2281
01:40:11,354 --> 01:40:14,434
Speaker 4: conference championship game. But my point is, why is there

2282
01:40:14,434 --> 01:40:16,314
Speaker 4: no talk about them not having their quarterback?

2283
01:40:16,514 --> 01:40:16,754
Speaker 3: Right?

2284
01:40:17,514 --> 01:40:20,514
Speaker 4: That was the reason why Florida State couldn't play, you know,

2285
01:40:20,594 --> 01:40:22,914
Speaker 4: and last year at least Florida State proved that they

2286
01:40:22,954 --> 01:40:25,714
Speaker 4: could win without their quarterback. We don't have any idea

2287
01:40:25,794 --> 01:40:28,074
Speaker 4: what Georgia can do. They played one half.

2288
01:40:28,594 --> 01:40:30,314
Speaker 5: That they beat the number three team in the country.

2289
01:40:30,434 --> 01:40:32,914
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, But they played one half of football

2290
01:40:32,914 --> 01:40:36,634
Speaker 4: without their quarterback. Yeah, Trevor, and they lost the lead. Yeah,

2291
01:40:36,674 --> 01:40:37,594
Speaker 4: and they lost the lead.

2292
01:40:38,034 --> 01:40:39,554
Speaker 6: I watched that one. Didn't that come back in just

2293
01:40:39,594 --> 01:40:40,634
Speaker 6: for like a handoff.

2294
01:40:40,274 --> 01:40:43,834
Speaker 4: Hand player of the game, Yeah, because the other guy

2295
01:40:43,874 --> 01:40:44,434
Speaker 4: got lit up.

2296
01:40:44,474 --> 01:40:46,354
Speaker 6: I was scouting it was grinding it a little bit.

2297
01:40:46,674 --> 01:40:50,594
Speaker 4: It's no, that's a very underrated day in the sports calendar,

2298
01:40:50,954 --> 01:40:53,154
Speaker 4: is that Saturday of the conference championship funds?

2299
01:40:53,554 --> 01:40:55,714
Speaker 5: I agree, it's It's one of the only times that

2300
01:40:55,714 --> 01:40:58,994
Speaker 5: I actually sit down and watch college football that for

2301
01:40:59,114 --> 01:41:02,194
Speaker 5: an extended other than the playoffs, like for you know,

2302
01:41:02,314 --> 01:41:04,514
Speaker 5: eight straight hours like I would on an NFL sun.

2303
01:41:04,834 --> 01:41:07,154
Speaker 4: I'll be curious to see how that's like the twelve

2304
01:41:07,194 --> 01:41:10,914
Speaker 4: team playoffs. It's going to be not this weekend. Next weekend,

2305
01:41:10,954 --> 01:41:14,314
Speaker 4: I think is the first round. I'll be curious to

2306
01:41:14,314 --> 01:41:16,754
Speaker 4: see how those games are sort of laid out in

2307
01:41:17,354 --> 01:41:19,914
Speaker 4: how much you get into them. Yeah, because I kind

2308
01:41:19,914 --> 01:41:24,154
Speaker 4: of agree with you. I'm envisioning like some of the

2309
01:41:24,154 --> 01:41:27,034
Speaker 4: teams that quote unquote don't belong with the big boys

2310
01:41:27,034 --> 01:41:28,714
Speaker 4: are probably going to get blistered.

2311
01:41:28,914 --> 01:41:29,394
Speaker 5: Notre Dame.

2312
01:41:30,074 --> 01:41:31,594
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would love that.

2313
01:41:31,714 --> 01:41:33,594
Speaker 5: I that's what I worry about.

2314
01:41:33,674 --> 01:41:36,314
Speaker 4: They play Indiana, right, Yeah, I would love Indiana to beat.

2315
01:41:36,154 --> 01:41:38,074
Speaker 5: Notre Yeah, I said, I had it wrong earlier. It's

2316
01:41:38,074 --> 01:41:38,954
Speaker 5: Penn State s.

2317
01:41:39,034 --> 01:41:41,714
Speaker 4: M U starting to feel like paid back for you

2318
01:41:41,794 --> 01:41:43,714
Speaker 4: could be Penn State because they can score.

2319
01:41:43,874 --> 01:41:45,994
Speaker 5: I just that's what I worry about what these things

2320
01:41:46,034 --> 01:41:48,834
Speaker 5: always is that you have seen some teams in this

2321
01:41:48,914 --> 01:41:52,754
Speaker 5: playoff now that some things are not like the others, right,

2322
01:41:52,794 --> 01:41:53,754
Speaker 5: like we're going to have a game.

2323
01:41:53,874 --> 01:41:57,154
Speaker 4: Yeah, And your point about Alabama in that regard is that.

2324
01:41:57,274 --> 01:41:59,314
Speaker 5: I just worried that about that, Like, look, we grew

2325
01:41:59,394 --> 01:42:01,314
Speaker 5: up with that, with the with the BCS, and Notre

2326
01:42:01,394 --> 01:42:03,554
Speaker 5: Dame would always get into a bowl that they had

2327
01:42:03,594 --> 01:42:05,674
Speaker 5: no business being in an Alabama would beat him by

2328
01:42:05,714 --> 01:42:07,594
Speaker 5: four touchdowns and it's like, well, what a waste of

2329
01:42:07,594 --> 01:42:11,154
Speaker 5: time this was, right, you know the man Notre Dame

2330
01:42:11,194 --> 01:42:15,514
Speaker 5: team that just got absolutely Yeah, And I'm just like,

2331
01:42:15,554 --> 01:42:17,714
Speaker 5: why why put these teams in every year?

2332
01:42:17,754 --> 01:42:20,154
Speaker 6: All right, let's let's move off from the college football talk.

2333
01:42:20,714 --> 01:42:22,074
Speaker 4: How about some NBA talk?

2334
01:42:22,794 --> 01:42:24,234
Speaker 3: I know, how about how about.

2335
01:42:23,994 --> 01:42:28,194
Speaker 6: We go back to that TP. I don't, I don't,

2336
01:42:28,274 --> 01:42:29,274
Speaker 6: I don't talk about names.

2337
01:42:31,354 --> 01:42:32,794
Speaker 4: Shot of him as a kid is one of my

2338
01:42:32,834 --> 01:42:33,394
Speaker 4: favorite things.

2339
01:42:33,394 --> 01:42:37,394
Speaker 6: On the end, we got up in Toronto, Hala, thank.

2340
01:42:37,554 --> 01:42:42,314
Speaker 12: It's no Actually, I was going to ask like, I guess,

2341
01:42:42,634 --> 01:42:44,514
Speaker 12: I think one of the biggest disappointments for me this

2342
01:42:44,594 --> 01:42:47,274
Speaker 12: season has been how poorly some of the guys they

2343
01:42:47,354 --> 01:42:53,154
Speaker 12: resigned have played. Like I think Dougger has been a liability,

2344
01:42:53,394 --> 01:42:58,354
Speaker 12: maybe even outplayed by Dell Tennis. And you know Barmore's

2345
01:42:58,394 --> 01:43:01,194
Speaker 12: bod spots, so that's kind of its own thing. On

2346
01:43:01,354 --> 01:43:04,234
Speaker 12: when who's playing like an okay guard but not a

2347
01:43:04,354 --> 01:43:07,714
Speaker 12: nineteen million dollar garden. I guess I wonder, like for

2348
01:43:07,834 --> 01:43:10,154
Speaker 12: Douger and on when who do you think it's a

2349
01:43:10,194 --> 01:43:12,714
Speaker 12: bit of like they got paid and now they're not

2350
01:43:12,834 --> 01:43:16,074
Speaker 12: giving one hundred percent effort. I know a lot of

2351
01:43:16,194 --> 01:43:19,954
Speaker 12: their uh issues seem to be meant to have been

2352
01:43:20,034 --> 01:43:22,474
Speaker 12: some saying, So I guess, yeah, do you think it's

2353
01:43:22,514 --> 01:43:25,594
Speaker 12: an effort thing? And I guess second question, you think,

2354
01:43:26,554 --> 01:43:30,074
Speaker 12: how do you projected, Gus we'll do next year? Is

2355
01:43:30,154 --> 01:43:33,234
Speaker 12: this kind of what we should expect from them going forward?

2356
01:43:34,154 --> 01:43:35,034
Speaker 12: And I'll take it off the air.

2357
01:43:35,034 --> 01:43:36,194
Speaker 6: I think, thanks for the call.

2358
01:43:36,514 --> 01:43:39,514
Speaker 5: It's a really good question, I guess are.

2359
01:43:39,434 --> 01:43:43,514
Speaker 4: A really good point try to answer. But question for Mara.

2360
01:43:43,274 --> 01:43:46,074
Speaker 5: Stevenson in the category two of guys that I haven't

2361
01:43:46,474 --> 01:43:50,034
Speaker 5: felt like have performed relative to the contract so far

2362
01:43:50,714 --> 01:43:54,073
Speaker 5: as well. So it's uh, it's disappointing that they invested

2363
01:43:54,154 --> 01:43:55,914
Speaker 5: in those guys, which I agreed with at the time.

2364
01:43:56,034 --> 01:43:57,034
Speaker 5: So I'm not gonna hunter.

2365
01:43:57,154 --> 01:44:01,194
Speaker 4: Henry's probably the only one that really has yeah, you know,

2366
01:44:01,514 --> 01:44:03,074
Speaker 4: lived up to probably outperformed.

2367
01:44:03,194 --> 01:44:04,954
Speaker 5: Yeah, and even like it wasn't big money, but like

2368
01:44:04,994 --> 01:44:06,874
Speaker 5: even July I has had.

2369
01:44:06,754 --> 01:44:10,274
Speaker 4: A ron year and Kendrick Bourne, Yeah, I really haven't

2370
01:44:10,314 --> 01:44:12,714
Speaker 4: gotten a whole lot. They are either suspended most of

2371
01:44:12,714 --> 01:44:14,514
Speaker 4: the seasons. Yeah, yeah, I mean they haven't gotten a

2372
01:44:15,234 --> 01:44:17,314
Speaker 4: you know, David Andrews got hurt and other guys that got.

2373
01:44:18,194 --> 01:44:20,274
Speaker 5: Core guys, you know, those are supposed to be there.

2374
01:44:20,274 --> 01:44:24,834
Speaker 4: When who I kind of wonder about his point because

2375
01:44:24,874 --> 01:44:27,514
Speaker 4: of the report and we saw it like of how

2376
01:44:27,554 --> 01:44:30,074
Speaker 4: big he looked, and I wondered if, you know, he

2377
01:44:30,154 --> 01:44:32,034
Speaker 4: got the contract and maybe that had something to do

2378
01:44:32,114 --> 01:44:34,834
Speaker 4: with it. I've heard other people sort of opine that

2379
01:44:35,994 --> 01:44:38,114
Speaker 4: it was an effort to stay away from tackle. He

2380
01:44:38,194 --> 01:44:41,474
Speaker 4: did not want to play tackle, and he felt like

2381
01:44:41,594 --> 01:44:43,674
Speaker 4: maybe if he got bigger, he wouldn't be an option

2382
01:44:43,954 --> 01:44:46,114
Speaker 4: at tackle. Didn't turn out that way, ended up having

2383
01:44:46,114 --> 01:44:51,994
Speaker 4: to play it anyway. Dugger. I I don't look at

2384
01:44:52,034 --> 01:44:54,194
Speaker 4: it as an effort thing either way. I mean, I

2385
01:44:54,274 --> 01:44:57,714
Speaker 4: think these guys play pretty hard, but I do wonder

2386
01:44:57,954 --> 01:45:00,354
Speaker 4: about you never know, like if the money chanced. This

2387
01:45:00,434 --> 01:45:02,994
Speaker 4: is why Bill used to always rail against that, because

2388
01:45:03,034 --> 01:45:05,514
Speaker 4: I think he worried about how the money would affect

2389
01:45:05,634 --> 01:45:08,874
Speaker 4: players and then others in the locker room. You know.

2390
01:45:09,034 --> 01:45:10,194
Speaker 4: I just feel like, I don't I don't have a

2391
01:45:10,194 --> 01:45:10,754
Speaker 4: good answer for that.

2392
01:45:10,834 --> 01:45:12,674
Speaker 6: I kind of feel like he's plateaued. Like I don't

2393
01:45:12,674 --> 01:45:15,274
Speaker 6: think he's you know, certainly this season has been down,

2394
01:45:15,354 --> 01:45:18,114
Speaker 6: but it's just his struggles and coverage. It's just I

2395
01:45:18,154 --> 01:45:21,074
Speaker 6: think too much that this is the player he is, Like,

2396
01:45:21,114 --> 01:45:24,074
Speaker 6: I haven't really seen much difference, and I think this

2397
01:45:24,234 --> 01:45:25,994
Speaker 6: is a little bit below the bar this year for him.

2398
01:45:26,034 --> 01:45:28,074
Speaker 4: I do think that he's he's the last since he's

2399
01:45:28,114 --> 01:45:30,834
Speaker 4: come back. Yeah, like Miami, he was like that was

2400
01:45:30,874 --> 01:45:34,474
Speaker 4: the game that Evan recounted all the touchdowns. You could

2401
01:45:34,514 --> 01:45:34,794
Speaker 4: make an.

2402
01:45:34,794 --> 01:45:37,074
Speaker 6: Argument hands in him. I mean, how many times have

2403
01:45:37,154 --> 01:45:39,034
Speaker 6: you seen him, you know, in coverage a step behind

2404
01:45:39,114 --> 01:45:40,794
Speaker 6: and and they're you know, throwing a touchdown.

2405
01:45:40,994 --> 01:45:43,234
Speaker 4: But I didn't think that he was that bad the

2406
01:45:43,314 --> 01:45:44,954
Speaker 4: first part of the year before he got hurt. I

2407
01:45:44,994 --> 01:45:45,914
Speaker 4: guess maybe he was.

2408
01:45:46,234 --> 01:45:48,554
Speaker 5: No, I didn't think so, just you know, think it's

2409
01:45:48,594 --> 01:45:49,354
Speaker 5: just not make an impact.

2410
01:45:49,354 --> 01:45:51,594
Speaker 6: I mean, nobody was making impact on the defense, you know.

2411
01:45:51,794 --> 01:45:53,634
Speaker 4: I just don't know. I don't see what's on that

2412
01:45:53,714 --> 01:45:54,274
Speaker 4: side of the ball.

2413
01:45:54,394 --> 01:45:56,194
Speaker 5: It was just one thing with Duggar that I I

2414
01:45:56,794 --> 01:45:58,794
Speaker 5: there was always some boomer busts with his game, but

2415
01:45:58,874 --> 01:46:01,434
Speaker 5: there was splash plays like he would make plays on

2416
01:46:01,514 --> 01:46:03,554
Speaker 5: the ball, you know, turnover his pick.

2417
01:46:04,114 --> 01:46:05,874
Speaker 4: Picking off that screen against the Raiders.

2418
01:46:05,954 --> 01:46:07,674
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was one of the better plays they've had

2419
01:46:07,754 --> 01:46:08,794
Speaker 5: over the last couple.

2420
01:46:08,634 --> 01:46:11,034
Speaker 4: Of years, you know, so much so that I remember

2421
01:46:11,034 --> 01:46:11,754
Speaker 4: it two years later.

2422
01:46:12,114 --> 01:46:14,994
Speaker 5: Those plays have for him have completely drip dried up

2423
01:46:15,314 --> 01:46:17,354
Speaker 5: this year. So like, if you're going to make some

2424
01:46:17,474 --> 01:46:19,794
Speaker 5: of the mistakes that he has always made, kind of

2425
01:46:19,914 --> 01:46:22,914
Speaker 5: to be honest with you, with I discipline and as

2426
01:46:22,994 --> 01:46:25,394
Speaker 5: signons and you know, getting lost and sort of the

2427
01:46:25,434 --> 01:46:27,554
Speaker 5: weeds in the defensive side of the ball and coverage.

2428
01:46:28,394 --> 01:46:29,954
Speaker 5: I wonder if he's the type of guy and we've

2429
01:46:29,994 --> 01:46:32,514
Speaker 5: always tried I feel like to have him be this

2430
01:46:33,234 --> 01:46:36,714
Speaker 5: Rodney Harrison, ballhawk, always around the football type of guy.

2431
01:46:37,754 --> 01:46:40,274
Speaker 5: He might be a simplify type of guy. More than

2432
01:46:40,394 --> 01:46:42,834
Speaker 5: like I'm just gonna read and react and have my

2433
01:46:42,954 --> 01:46:46,114
Speaker 5: eyes everywhere. I think sometimes that pulls him in the

2434
01:46:46,154 --> 01:46:51,234
Speaker 5: wrong direction. And he's not an overly instinctual player, whereas

2435
01:46:51,474 --> 01:46:53,794
Speaker 5: you know, even though he has some warts covering tight ends,

2436
01:46:53,834 --> 01:46:55,314
Speaker 5: like at least he knows he has the tight end

2437
01:46:55,514 --> 01:46:58,194
Speaker 5: right and there's not like that sort of like doubt

2438
01:46:58,234 --> 01:47:00,634
Speaker 5: in his game. But what don wny, The one pass

2439
01:47:00,674 --> 01:47:03,194
Speaker 5: I would give him is that all the moving around

2440
01:47:03,434 --> 01:47:05,274
Speaker 5: I don't think has I don't think he's liked it,

2441
01:47:05,434 --> 01:47:07,234
Speaker 5: and I don't think that it's helped his game.

2442
01:47:07,394 --> 01:47:09,154
Speaker 4: I would agree on both counts at all.

2443
01:47:09,474 --> 01:47:13,034
Speaker 5: So if they settle in and say he's a right guard,

2444
01:47:13,154 --> 01:47:16,394
Speaker 5: stamped into next season you are playing right guard, he'll

2445
01:47:16,434 --> 01:47:16,754
Speaker 5: be better.

2446
01:47:16,874 --> 01:47:21,034
Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, let's keep blasting through these calls. Nate, Northeast, Pennsylvania,

2447
01:47:21,034 --> 01:47:24,994
Speaker 6: Hey Nate, Hey.

2448
01:47:25,314 --> 01:47:27,834
Speaker 13: Up, I missed the first button. That's the show. But

2449
01:47:27,874 --> 01:47:30,274
Speaker 13: I don't think he talked about this. As rough as

2450
01:47:30,314 --> 01:47:33,234
Speaker 13: this season has been, I felt a quite bit of

2451
01:47:33,354 --> 01:47:36,994
Speaker 13: reassurance this weekend after catching the Jaguars Titans game. I

2452
01:47:37,034 --> 01:47:39,034
Speaker 13: don't know if you saw Mac Jones play, but getted

2453
01:47:39,114 --> 01:47:42,594
Speaker 13: in a pulse pounding ten to six final score and

2454
01:47:42,914 --> 01:47:45,474
Speaker 13: the cherry on top was a real doozy of an

2455
01:47:45,474 --> 01:47:49,114
Speaker 13: interception by Mackews. I saw pressure and getting sacked and

2456
01:47:49,234 --> 01:47:50,954
Speaker 13: just kind of threw it to literally no one.

2457
01:47:51,074 --> 01:47:52,674
Speaker 3: And oh I saw it again.

2458
01:47:53,274 --> 01:47:55,274
Speaker 13: As rough as it's been, I'm just so glad that

2459
01:47:55,314 --> 01:47:57,314
Speaker 13: we don't have to watch those kinds of games anyway.

2460
01:47:57,314 --> 01:47:59,554
Speaker 5: Well, see, I had a completely take on that game.

2461
01:47:59,594 --> 01:48:03,394
Speaker 5: I want to thank Mac Jones for beating the Tennessee

2462
01:48:03,474 --> 01:48:07,034
Speaker 5: Titans and having the Jaguars fall in the draft order

2463
01:48:07,114 --> 01:48:09,314
Speaker 5: from the number one overall pick three babies and now

2464
01:48:09,394 --> 01:48:12,434
Speaker 5: the fifth overall pick. So thank you, Mac. I appreciate

2465
01:48:12,514 --> 01:48:13,194
Speaker 5: you giving us that.

2466
01:48:13,474 --> 01:48:14,994
Speaker 4: He was as bad as you can be. There's a

2467
01:48:15,074 --> 01:48:17,914
Speaker 4: lot and that pick that he's talking about, he did

2468
01:48:17,994 --> 01:48:19,874
Speaker 4: us a favor, but a lot of the even.

2469
01:48:19,754 --> 01:48:22,034
Speaker 6: Like that was a fourth quarter comeback, bro, I know,

2470
01:48:22,234 --> 01:48:23,714
Speaker 6: even some of the stories he makes, it's all off

2471
01:48:23,754 --> 01:48:25,594
Speaker 6: the back foot, like it all looks the same. It's

2472
01:48:25,634 --> 01:48:28,314
Speaker 6: just you know, he's not skittish, confident, he's not stepping

2473
01:48:28,394 --> 01:48:28,954
Speaker 6: into anything.

2474
01:48:29,034 --> 01:48:32,113
Speaker 5: That is a horrible win for the Jacksonville Jaguars.

2475
01:48:32,674 --> 01:48:33,914
Speaker 3: It was not inspiring.

2476
01:48:34,354 --> 01:48:36,994
Speaker 4: Yeah, like if you go and win, you know, win

2477
01:48:37,074 --> 01:48:39,234
Speaker 4: that game, thirty four to twenty eight. You're like, all right,

2478
01:48:39,314 --> 01:48:40,874
Speaker 4: you know they showed some hard they you know, the

2479
01:48:40,954 --> 01:48:43,154
Speaker 4: offense got in gear ten to six.

2480
01:48:43,554 --> 01:48:45,514
Speaker 6: It sounds like all the scores of Mac was that's.

2481
01:48:45,394 --> 01:48:47,674
Speaker 5: A terrible win for the Jaguars. Terrible.

2482
01:48:47,794 --> 01:48:49,714
Speaker 6: Well, I'm sorry, I haven't read more emails. Guys. We've

2483
01:48:49,754 --> 01:48:52,754
Speaker 6: had some great college football conversation here in the second half.

2484
01:48:53,234 --> 01:48:57,754
Speaker 6: Prevented me from it, but I'm gonna read this one.

2485
01:48:57,834 --> 01:49:00,474
Speaker 5: He's everybody can see your badge, Mike.

2486
01:49:01,154 --> 01:49:05,234
Speaker 4: He's such he's such a powder look out, just a

2487
01:49:05,274 --> 01:49:08,514
Speaker 4: good thing all the time, like college football talking. Sorry,

2488
01:49:08,594 --> 01:49:10,674
Speaker 4: we talked about something relevant like.

2489
01:49:10,714 --> 01:49:13,034
Speaker 6: Payback as we talked about uniform sermon and we're gonna

2490
01:49:13,034 --> 01:49:17,594
Speaker 6: get him backwards, uh kidding. Aside this email from William

2491
01:49:17,674 --> 01:49:21,154
Speaker 6: last Wednesday. Fred said GAFA instead of gaff and entomology

2492
01:49:21,594 --> 01:49:25,474
Speaker 6: bugs instead of etomology words. First time I've missed Eric

2493
01:49:25,554 --> 01:49:27,834
Speaker 6: since he left. Also, Mike had a sneaky good reference

2494
01:49:28,234 --> 01:49:30,874
Speaker 6: Mad to Mad Max didn't get noticed, shiny and chrome

2495
01:49:30,994 --> 01:49:34,314
Speaker 6: good Mike onto football. Which of the following do you

2496
01:49:34,314 --> 01:49:38,394
Speaker 6: think is responsible for the team's defensive problems? One poor

2497
01:49:38,514 --> 01:49:42,074
Speaker 6: scheme game planning, two poor communication of scheme, game planning.

2498
01:49:42,474 --> 01:49:46,314
Speaker 6: Three poor on field communication between players for poor execution

2499
01:49:46,474 --> 01:49:50,274
Speaker 6: by players. Five we just don't have the horses.

2500
01:49:50,554 --> 01:49:52,954
Speaker 4: All five. I would say all five, but five is

2501
01:49:53,034 --> 01:49:56,474
Speaker 4: my number one thing. But I don't think that they've

2502
01:49:56,514 --> 01:49:59,674
Speaker 4: adjusted well when things aren't working. This is what I

2503
01:49:59,794 --> 01:50:02,754
Speaker 4: just said about Ara McDermott, Like that whole game goes

2504
01:50:02,794 --> 01:50:04,994
Speaker 4: by the other day, and I mean, I'm sure that

2505
01:50:05,074 --> 01:50:07,114
Speaker 4: they made some adjustment. I didn't see anything that was

2506
01:50:07,234 --> 01:50:10,434
Speaker 4: that was obvious, and they just couldn't stop them. All

2507
01:50:10,514 --> 01:50:12,634
Speaker 4: the same stuff they were doing, you know, and they

2508
01:50:12,674 --> 01:50:13,834
Speaker 4: were doing a lot of the same stuff that they

2509
01:50:13,874 --> 01:50:16,514
Speaker 4: did against the Patriots. And I put NICOLEA and Cup

2510
01:50:16,594 --> 01:50:18,914
Speaker 4: on the same side sort of made the bills to

2511
01:50:18,994 --> 01:50:24,114
Speaker 4: Clare like, yeah, no adjustments. Yeah, it's been a problem.

2512
01:50:24,874 --> 01:50:28,874
Speaker 5: I I'm really fascinated to see what they do on

2513
01:50:28,954 --> 01:50:31,314
Speaker 5: the defense side of the ball in the offseason. From

2514
01:50:31,354 --> 01:50:35,194
Speaker 5: a coaching standpoint, I just feel like there's two guys

2515
01:50:35,314 --> 01:50:37,834
Speaker 5: there that are trying to run this defense that are

2516
01:50:37,914 --> 01:50:42,234
Speaker 5: not one hundred percent experienced in the role. I think

2517
01:50:42,314 --> 01:50:45,434
Speaker 5: that can be difficult. I think Girod's stretch really thin

2518
01:50:45,714 --> 01:50:47,594
Speaker 5: as a head coach, just doing a bunch of different

2519
01:50:47,594 --> 01:50:50,074
Speaker 5: things that head coaches have to do, and he hasn't

2520
01:50:50,114 --> 01:50:52,474
Speaker 5: been able to bell.

2521
01:50:51,594 --> 01:50:55,074
Speaker 4: That we a senior advisor on defense, but I think

2522
01:50:55,114 --> 01:50:55,754
Speaker 4: that it needs to be.

2523
01:50:56,474 --> 01:50:59,114
Speaker 5: That's sort of that's sort of my my thing is like, well,

2524
01:50:59,154 --> 01:51:02,954
Speaker 5: if that's not Girard, then what is Gerard doing?

2525
01:51:03,194 --> 01:51:03,354
Speaker 4: Right?

2526
01:51:03,434 --> 01:51:06,834
Speaker 5: Like, if he's not able to help on his side

2527
01:51:06,874 --> 01:51:10,834
Speaker 5: of the ball, it's difficult for me to then envision. Okay,

2528
01:51:10,914 --> 01:51:14,794
Speaker 5: so he's basically just a CEO figurehead at the top

2529
01:51:14,874 --> 01:51:17,314
Speaker 5: of the of the letter, and then you have Ben

2530
01:51:17,434 --> 01:51:20,074
Speaker 5: mcaduo and a VP running the offense and the senior

2531
01:51:20,194 --> 01:51:23,874
Speaker 5: defensive assistant and Covington running the defense, and like it

2532
01:51:24,074 --> 01:51:27,834
Speaker 5: just that should that's senior defensive assistant should be draped. Yeah,

2533
01:51:27,994 --> 01:51:29,834
Speaker 5: Like he should be the one that is it is

2534
01:51:30,794 --> 01:51:32,834
Speaker 5: doing that sort of role on the defense side of

2535
01:51:32,834 --> 01:51:35,073
Speaker 5: the ball. It's one thing he's not calling the plays

2536
01:51:35,194 --> 01:51:37,994
Speaker 5: or he's not running every meeting or whatever because of

2537
01:51:38,314 --> 01:51:41,474
Speaker 5: his position as the head coach, but he should be

2538
01:51:41,554 --> 01:51:43,954
Speaker 5: the one that's doing the quality control stuff on that

2539
01:51:44,034 --> 01:51:44,394
Speaker 5: side of it.

2540
01:51:44,754 --> 01:51:47,594
Speaker 6: Mostly Belichick guys still there. It's just Jerry Montgomery, right,

2541
01:51:47,674 --> 01:51:50,594
Speaker 6: and Drew Wilkins are the two new coaches that they

2542
01:51:50,674 --> 01:51:52,794
Speaker 6: brought in and they do adjust things.

2543
01:51:52,874 --> 01:51:55,994
Speaker 4: Do you stick with the Belichick guy to but he's

2544
01:51:56,114 --> 01:52:00,914
Speaker 4: also a Belichick guy, so baked into you know, experience

2545
01:52:01,034 --> 01:52:01,314
Speaker 4: room and.

2546
01:52:01,314 --> 01:52:01,794
Speaker 3: Stuff like that.

2547
01:52:02,154 --> 01:52:04,234
Speaker 6: It's just I mean, it's you're going to start messing

2548
01:52:04,314 --> 01:52:07,194
Speaker 6: with stuff. You know, what threads are you pulling out?

2549
01:52:07,194 --> 01:52:08,994
Speaker 6: Are you pulling out the ones that we're here before?

2550
01:52:09,034 --> 01:52:10,754
Speaker 6: Are you pulling out you know? Are you trying to

2551
01:52:10,794 --> 01:52:13,194
Speaker 6: bring something new? Are you trying to you know, reevaluate.

2552
01:52:13,874 --> 01:52:15,954
Speaker 6: I just think the big point is, you know, can

2553
01:52:15,994 --> 01:52:18,354
Speaker 6: you run the Belichick defense without Belichick? That's kind of

2554
01:52:18,394 --> 01:52:21,154
Speaker 6: the question. There's probably as simple as that.

2555
01:52:21,314 --> 01:52:23,914
Speaker 5: There's a you know, just on the position coach front.

2556
01:52:24,154 --> 01:52:25,674
Speaker 5: Jerry Montgomery is thing one.

2557
01:52:25,754 --> 01:52:27,034
Speaker 3: To me, he's a good guy.

2558
01:52:27,154 --> 01:52:29,794
Speaker 5: Like I'm not trying to rail against him by any means,

2559
01:52:29,914 --> 01:52:33,594
Speaker 5: but there were talks at of Green Bay about their

2560
01:52:33,714 --> 01:52:37,034
Speaker 5: run defense and about some issues with their defensive line

2561
01:52:37,634 --> 01:52:39,834
Speaker 5: the year before, and then he comes here and the

2562
01:52:39,914 --> 01:52:43,234
Speaker 5: run defense completely regresses with the Patriots as well. So

2563
01:52:43,554 --> 01:52:45,634
Speaker 5: I just wonder, and you know, there's some chatter. I

2564
01:52:45,674 --> 01:52:47,954
Speaker 5: think Badard said early on in the season that the

2565
01:52:48,074 --> 01:52:50,754
Speaker 5: coaching there wasn't exactly the same as it had been

2566
01:52:50,794 --> 01:52:53,474
Speaker 5: in years past. So I just wonder if maybe that

2567
01:52:53,754 --> 01:52:55,554
Speaker 5: you know, that would be a potential move is to

2568
01:52:55,634 --> 01:52:56,754
Speaker 5: get a defensive line.

2569
01:52:56,954 --> 01:52:59,474
Speaker 6: But like connected to Mayo, you know, like DeMarcus Covington

2570
01:52:59,594 --> 01:53:01,514
Speaker 6: was the defensive line coach last year, so just like

2571
01:53:01,594 --> 01:53:03,314
Speaker 6: you would say, well, I thought Mayo was going to

2572
01:53:03,394 --> 01:53:05,154
Speaker 6: kind of oversee things and make sure that didn't feel

2573
01:53:05,154 --> 01:53:07,034
Speaker 6: like Comington. You know, he did a pretty good job

2574
01:53:07,074 --> 01:53:09,474
Speaker 6: last year with the defensive line. But yeah, still something's

2575
01:53:09,594 --> 01:53:10,554
Speaker 6: getting I feel.

2576
01:53:10,354 --> 01:53:12,834
Speaker 4: For those guys too, because they played hard last year.

2577
01:53:12,834 --> 01:53:13,474
Speaker 6: They did play hard.

2578
01:53:13,834 --> 01:53:16,314
Speaker 5: Bill, they never call there was a tough guy.

2579
01:53:17,594 --> 01:53:21,514
Speaker 6: Spe also points out there's also carrion, the noun meaning

2580
01:53:21,554 --> 01:53:24,714
Speaker 6: to king flush of dead animals, which is pronounced like carry.

2581
01:53:24,434 --> 01:53:26,394
Speaker 3: On, carry on.

2582
01:53:26,794 --> 01:53:29,194
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, I'm lost, but c A R R I

2583
01:53:29,354 --> 01:53:33,114
Speaker 6: O N carry on. We're muddy in the waters. Even

2584
01:53:33,154 --> 01:53:35,274
Speaker 6: more here, let's see if Todd in North Carolina has

2585
01:53:35,274 --> 01:53:35,834
Speaker 6: got any answers.

2586
01:53:35,874 --> 01:53:40,394
Speaker 14: Hey Todd, Hey guys, I was just looking at the

2587
01:53:41,034 --> 01:53:43,754
Speaker 14: teams that are doing well this year, and they all

2588
01:53:43,874 --> 01:53:46,194
Speaker 14: have some semblance of a decent running game.

2589
01:53:46,954 --> 01:53:49,194
Speaker 18: And then after Gronk was on the back and when

2590
01:53:49,714 --> 01:53:51,954
Speaker 18: the year that Gronk was talking about some of those

2591
01:53:52,034 --> 01:53:54,314
Speaker 18: years that we had like Veren, we had White, we

2592
01:53:54,394 --> 01:53:57,274
Speaker 18: had Burke hit. How many running backs do you need

2593
01:53:57,354 --> 01:54:00,314
Speaker 18: to carry in order to keep the team going so

2594
01:54:00,434 --> 01:54:02,834
Speaker 18: that you got something going because we had almost four

2595
01:54:02,954 --> 01:54:06,274
Speaker 18: running backs through a lot of those times when Gronk

2596
01:54:06,394 --> 01:54:10,114
Speaker 18: was here, And do we need to fall back? That's

2597
01:54:10,194 --> 01:54:10,594
Speaker 18: my question.

2598
01:54:10,834 --> 01:54:10,994
Speaker 12: Thanks?

2599
01:54:10,994 --> 01:54:16,034
Speaker 5: Okay, Look, I feel like a broken record. I've said

2600
01:54:16,034 --> 01:54:18,794
Speaker 5: this a million times. Stop looking at the running backs

2601
01:54:19,114 --> 01:54:21,154
Speaker 5: like it's the guys up front. Are the ones that

2602
01:54:21,234 --> 01:54:24,034
Speaker 5: are doing all the work, like rex Burke head no offense,

2603
01:54:24,674 --> 01:54:27,954
Speaker 5: Like these guys has no offense, but like rex Burke,

2604
01:54:27,994 --> 01:54:31,634
Speaker 5: I was running behind Dante Scarneki's offensive line, Like that's

2605
01:54:31,714 --> 01:54:33,234
Speaker 5: what made rex Burk and Rexburg.

2606
01:54:33,354 --> 01:54:36,474
Speaker 4: I mean, I think it the more things you do well, obviously,

2607
01:54:36,514 --> 01:54:38,074
Speaker 4: the more it helps you. If you want to have

2608
01:54:38,154 --> 01:54:41,074
Speaker 4: a fullback, to me, I want to full back that's

2609
01:54:41,154 --> 01:54:43,794
Speaker 4: versatile and can make plays like you know, like the

2610
01:54:43,954 --> 01:54:46,514
Speaker 4: US check Kyle Wild check not you know, I don't.

2611
01:54:46,514 --> 01:54:49,394
Speaker 4: I don't want to like a plow horse James Devlin type.

2612
01:54:49,434 --> 01:54:52,994
Speaker 4: I know that worked. I don't think it's necessarily that important.

2613
01:54:53,194 --> 01:54:58,554
Speaker 4: And I also, look, there's certainly Detroit, Philadelphia, Baltimore, they're

2614
01:54:58,674 --> 01:55:01,514
Speaker 4: really good teams and they run the ball. Kansas City

2615
01:55:01,514 --> 01:55:04,674
Speaker 4: doesn't run the ball all that well. Pittsburgh doesn't run

2616
01:55:04,714 --> 01:55:07,074
Speaker 4: it great either. Right now, since Russell Wilson's come back,

2617
01:55:07,074 --> 01:55:09,194
Speaker 4: I saw a lot of stats about him. They've had

2618
01:55:09,234 --> 01:55:13,034
Speaker 4: the most explosive passing plays in the league since Russell

2619
01:55:13,034 --> 01:55:16,154
Speaker 4: Wilson's return to the lineup. So, yeah, it's great if

2620
01:55:16,154 --> 01:55:18,274
Speaker 4: you run the ball really well, it's it's good. It

2621
01:55:18,794 --> 01:55:22,154
Speaker 4: doesn't hurt you. But it's not something that's it's not

2622
01:55:22,314 --> 01:55:24,754
Speaker 4: like why they're not good, Like I just got to

2623
01:55:24,794 --> 01:55:26,314
Speaker 4: run the ball run the ball back?

2624
01:55:26,994 --> 01:55:28,314
Speaker 6: Well, some of us just like to look on the

2625
01:55:28,354 --> 01:55:30,194
Speaker 6: field and see a number forty four with a neck

2626
01:55:30,354 --> 01:55:34,354
Speaker 6: role who looks a little oversized. You're running back, just like.

2627
01:55:34,434 --> 01:55:36,154
Speaker 5: If you're gonna do that sort of thing, like to

2628
01:55:36,234 --> 01:55:40,634
Speaker 5: Paul's point, if you're gonna have a James Devilin type

2629
01:55:40,714 --> 01:55:42,714
Speaker 5: full back, who I love, by the way, So no, no,

2630
01:55:43,514 --> 01:55:47,114
Speaker 5: another great Patriots, But like why don't why wouldn't you

2631
01:55:47,274 --> 01:55:49,714
Speaker 5: just use an extra offensive lineman at that point, right

2632
01:55:49,754 --> 01:55:52,194
Speaker 5: because you're not gonna throw them the ball anyways. So

2633
01:55:52,434 --> 01:55:55,794
Speaker 5: like the Patriots have been going. You know, Elegiby with City,

2634
01:55:56,394 --> 01:55:58,274
Speaker 5: who I don't think has done a great job at it,

2635
01:55:58,354 --> 01:56:00,914
Speaker 5: to be honest with you, But okay, maybe maybe we

2636
01:56:00,994 --> 01:56:03,194
Speaker 5: get somebody that does a little bit better job. But

2637
01:56:03,354 --> 01:56:04,834
Speaker 5: at the same time, it's like, you know, it might

2638
01:56:04,834 --> 01:56:06,994
Speaker 5: as well just go six offensive lineman with one of

2639
01:56:07,034 --> 01:56:09,314
Speaker 5: them in the backfield at that point, because it's already

2640
01:56:09,354 --> 01:56:11,794
Speaker 5: a receiver you're not gonna throw the ball to. So like,

2641
01:56:11,874 --> 01:56:14,794
Speaker 5: what difference does it make whether it's a full back

2642
01:56:14,914 --> 01:56:16,794
Speaker 5: or it's a three hundred pound offensive lineman.

2643
01:56:16,914 --> 01:56:18,874
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and like you know, Todd said, like

2644
01:56:19,434 --> 01:56:21,834
Speaker 4: there are there are good teams, there are good offenses

2645
01:56:21,914 --> 01:56:23,594
Speaker 4: in the league that they do run the ball.

2646
01:56:23,674 --> 01:56:25,154
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, they also have to lead a lot.

2647
01:56:25,354 --> 01:56:28,434
Speaker 4: So I'm not telling you, like, don't don't worry about

2648
01:56:28,434 --> 01:56:30,754
Speaker 4: the running game, but I just don't think that, Like,

2649
01:56:32,114 --> 01:56:33,634
Speaker 4: I think they have a lot of things to fix

2650
01:56:33,874 --> 01:56:36,154
Speaker 4: that would be higher on the priority list than finding

2651
01:56:36,474 --> 01:56:39,394
Speaker 4: more running backs. Like they have three on the roster.

2652
01:56:39,554 --> 01:56:42,394
Speaker 4: They've had three on the roster all year, and I

2653
01:56:42,514 --> 01:56:48,114
Speaker 4: think periodically those guys have done okay, but they can't

2654
01:56:48,514 --> 01:56:49,154
Speaker 4: score enough.

2655
01:56:49,634 --> 01:56:52,834
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like if you if they if the blocking includes

2656
01:56:52,954 --> 01:56:55,194
Speaker 5: the Normandra Stevenson and Antonio Gibson are going to be

2657
01:56:55,234 --> 01:56:58,394
Speaker 5: perfectly capable running backs for you. Are they going to

2658
01:56:58,434 --> 01:56:59,394
Speaker 5: be Saquon Barkley?

2659
01:56:59,674 --> 01:57:01,994
Speaker 4: No, but Gibson will stay. Isn't he only on a

2660
01:57:02,034 --> 01:57:04,114
Speaker 4: one years Yeah?

2661
01:57:04,794 --> 01:57:07,674
Speaker 5: But it's like it's like a fake three year contract though.

2662
01:57:07,754 --> 01:57:09,394
Speaker 5: But on the team side, right.

2663
01:57:09,554 --> 01:57:11,034
Speaker 4: I thought he signed a one year deal and I

2664
01:57:11,114 --> 01:57:13,474
Speaker 4: figured he couldn't get out of here fast enough after

2665
01:57:13,554 --> 01:57:15,314
Speaker 4: getting like five touches a weekend.

2666
01:57:16,314 --> 01:57:19,274
Speaker 6: Andrew in La complicates things further. Uh, maybe we should

2667
01:57:19,274 --> 01:57:21,594
Speaker 6: save this for Fred. But Fred, how should we sing

2668
01:57:21,674 --> 01:57:24,394
Speaker 6: the hit song by Kansas carry on My wayward Son?

2669
01:57:24,594 --> 01:57:29,514
Speaker 5: That's what I was. I can't hit that note.

2670
01:57:30,714 --> 01:57:35,554
Speaker 4: You can hit that note musical, you knowe? I backed out.

2671
01:57:35,954 --> 01:57:37,714
Speaker 6: I gotta get serious about my music. That's one of

2672
01:57:37,754 --> 01:57:39,274
Speaker 6: my goals. I gotta get more. I gotta get a

2673
01:57:40,114 --> 01:57:41,474
Speaker 6: don't want to get serious about my music?

2674
01:57:41,594 --> 01:57:41,754
Speaker 11: You know?

2675
01:57:42,834 --> 01:57:46,194
Speaker 4: Is that me start addresses goals start his band? I

2676
01:57:46,194 --> 01:57:47,154
Speaker 4: guess they don't include us.

2677
01:57:47,234 --> 01:57:48,874
Speaker 6: Can you can be in it?

2678
01:57:48,954 --> 01:57:50,914
Speaker 5: You can be you will be my you'll be the roadie.

2679
01:57:50,954 --> 01:57:56,554
Speaker 5: But I thought the Marin only operates on on wrapped though,

2680
01:57:56,794 --> 01:57:58,634
Speaker 5: all we'll do fusion.

2681
01:57:59,554 --> 01:58:00,914
Speaker 1: Rich you the craziest lyrics you'll hear.

2682
01:58:02,594 --> 01:58:03,914
Speaker 6: I don't know if I want to sing those lyrics,

2683
01:58:03,954 --> 01:58:07,314
Speaker 6: but uh one one final email here Andrew from Westchester,

2684
01:58:07,514 --> 01:58:09,834
Speaker 6: just recommending and I haven't seen this, and I appreciate

2685
01:58:09,874 --> 01:58:11,954
Speaker 6: the wreck. I gotta check it out. The Madden video

2686
01:58:12,034 --> 01:58:15,194
Speaker 6: game doc on Amazon. He thought it was very well done,

2687
01:58:15,234 --> 01:58:17,554
Speaker 6: with interviews with tons of current and former NFL players,

2688
01:58:17,834 --> 01:58:20,034
Speaker 6: and offers a compelling storyline, not to mention has some

2689
01:58:20,154 --> 01:58:23,474
Speaker 6: old interview footage with Madden and some interesting behind the

2690
01:58:23,474 --> 01:58:26,634
Speaker 6: scenes content with him. Well, we're the watch. I will

2691
01:58:26,714 --> 01:58:28,314
Speaker 6: check that out. Sounds pretty good. You are you guys mad?

2692
01:58:28,354 --> 01:58:28,634
Speaker 16: And you mad?

2693
01:58:28,674 --> 01:58:29,274
Speaker 6: And your kids mad?

2694
01:58:29,514 --> 01:58:30,994
Speaker 5: I mean I'm maden that as.

2695
01:58:30,834 --> 01:58:33,794
Speaker 4: A kid, I don't think they play as much as

2696
01:58:33,834 --> 01:58:34,434
Speaker 4: they once did.

2697
01:58:34,674 --> 01:58:36,834
Speaker 6: My son kicked my acid Madden last night and it's

2698
01:58:36,874 --> 01:58:38,754
Speaker 6: like so depressing. And I just make jokes the whole time,

2699
01:58:38,754 --> 01:58:40,594
Speaker 6: and I'm like, this is my job. And he but

2700
01:58:40,714 --> 01:58:42,314
Speaker 6: he like knows all the tricks of the trade, you know,

2701
01:58:42,434 --> 01:58:44,914
Speaker 6: like he like switches to the character that he's throwing

2702
01:58:44,954 --> 01:58:46,794
Speaker 6: to and then like, I guess you can press wide.

2703
01:58:47,274 --> 01:58:49,634
Speaker 5: I'm just pressing, well now, you know, back in the day,

2704
01:58:49,794 --> 01:58:52,674
Speaker 5: now I think they've attempted to clean up some of

2705
01:58:52,754 --> 01:58:55,034
Speaker 5: the like you know, oh, if I run this play,

2706
01:58:55,074 --> 01:58:56,954
Speaker 5: it's gonna work every time, like bugs.

2707
01:58:57,234 --> 01:58:59,994
Speaker 4: Oh really that they had that, Like bo Jackson I

2708
01:59:00,314 --> 01:59:03,514
Speaker 4: discussed on that I discovered back in the day, there

2709
01:59:03,674 --> 01:59:06,274
Speaker 4: was some plays that you know, I bet.

2710
01:59:06,154 --> 01:59:08,434
Speaker 3: Bar knew them all that I would just.

2711
01:59:08,514 --> 01:59:09,994
Speaker 4: Run annexation of Puerto Rican.

2712
01:59:10,074 --> 01:59:11,794
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's kind of like remember the Titans when he

2713
01:59:11,834 --> 01:59:14,234
Speaker 5: says they run three plays. Yeah, like I would run

2714
01:59:14,274 --> 01:59:17,474
Speaker 5: the same three places, yeah with the Dynasty Patriots, and

2715
01:59:17,554 --> 01:59:21,034
Speaker 5: they would work every single time because the computer would

2716
01:59:21,034 --> 01:59:22,794
Speaker 5: always like do a certain type.

2717
01:59:22,554 --> 01:59:25,714
Speaker 6: Of thing, and he always that seems against Evan though.

2718
01:59:25,754 --> 01:59:28,554
Speaker 6: That seems like you'd really want to win legitimately with

2719
01:59:28,794 --> 01:59:31,874
Speaker 6: scheme and you'd be like running, I want to think people.

2720
01:59:31,994 --> 01:59:34,674
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had, Well, that's like the cheek code.

2721
01:59:36,754 --> 01:59:39,474
Speaker 5: It was like you know, little nub formation right tight

2722
01:59:39,594 --> 01:59:41,634
Speaker 5: ends for the sky out. You have gronk on the

2723
01:59:41,714 --> 01:59:44,674
Speaker 5: corner route, which you could alert to a seam if

2724
01:59:44,674 --> 01:59:50,234
Speaker 5: you wanted to. Yeah, And every once in a while

2725
01:59:50,354 --> 01:59:52,274
Speaker 5: you just do it because it's more fun, you know.

2726
01:59:52,394 --> 01:59:54,394
Speaker 5: You just like even though it wasn't really the right

2727
01:59:54,434 --> 01:59:56,954
Speaker 5: thing to do, but you have Goronk on the corner route,

2728
01:59:57,154 --> 01:59:59,474
Speaker 5: then you'd have like this was like probably like Shane

2729
01:59:59,554 --> 02:00:03,154
Speaker 5: Vereen Patriots. You have him on the flat on that

2730
02:00:03,314 --> 02:00:05,314
Speaker 5: side of the field, and then you have a little

2731
02:00:05,354 --> 02:00:07,394
Speaker 5: option route in the middle of the field for Edelman,

2732
02:00:07,834 --> 02:00:10,674
Speaker 5: but the corner in the flat, like you could just

2733
02:00:10,794 --> 02:00:12,754
Speaker 5: high low all day long, right, Like you know, if

2734
02:00:12,794 --> 02:00:15,474
Speaker 5: the flat defender plays Gronk, you just throw the running back.

2735
02:00:15,514 --> 02:00:17,754
Speaker 5: If he sticks to the running back, you just throw

2736
02:00:17,794 --> 02:00:19,874
Speaker 5: the corner rout. If it's Manta Man, you know you're

2737
02:00:19,914 --> 02:00:21,874
Speaker 5: going to eighty seven, right, like eighty No one can

2738
02:00:21,874 --> 02:00:24,154
Speaker 5: stick with eighty seven and Manta Man that play. You

2739
02:00:24,154 --> 02:00:26,434
Speaker 5: could run that play for four quarters and score fifty points.

2740
02:00:26,514 --> 02:00:29,634
Speaker 4: Yeah, be anyone less fun to play Madden with than

2741
02:00:29,714 --> 02:00:30,794
Speaker 4: what he just described.

2742
02:00:31,474 --> 02:00:32,674
Speaker 6: I gotta try it. But I was playing with the

2743
02:00:32,714 --> 02:00:34,994
Speaker 6: twenty twenty three Patriots. A Zappi was my courter. I

2744
02:00:35,034 --> 02:00:35,954
Speaker 6: don't know what I was doing, but.

2745
02:00:36,034 --> 02:00:38,154
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was bad. You're trying to take your own

2746
02:00:38,194 --> 02:00:41,074
Speaker 4: and beating his n Now he killed me.

2747
02:00:41,194 --> 02:00:41,394
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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02:00:41,514 --> 02:00:44,154
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