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Speaker 1: Alright, this is Chase that leak. It's the Philly Show.

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Speaker 2: Hi, everybody, Ruben Tomorrow Junior, Jim Salisbury Todd's a Lucky

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Speaker 2: brought to you by.

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Speaker 1: Foul Territory Network. Good morning.

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Speaker 2: It's Wednesday, November twenty seven, twenty twenty four. It's the

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Speaker 2: day before Thanksgiving time.

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Speaker 3: Anything. Is there anything better than Thanksgiving? Boys? I love that?

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Speaker 3: Isn't it just the greatest time of the year.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I love the fall, but because of yes,

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Speaker 4: all these fall stuff. But dude, Thanksgiving with your friends

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Speaker 4: and family, it's just the best.

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Speaker 1: If you like your friends and family.

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Speaker 3: I like my friends. That's a good point.

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Speaker 1: No, But I agree.

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Speaker 2: You get the holidays going, you start seeing the people

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Speaker 2: outside decorating, you know, putting the Christmas lights out, the

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Speaker 2: Christmas trees, the music, just the whole vibe of the

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Speaker 2: season is just amazing.

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Speaker 4: Well you think, Jim, Apparently, Jim, did you know you

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Speaker 4: don't like it?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 3: I like Thanksgiving? And you know, I grew up in

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Speaker 3: the area where it started when the Wampanog Indians and

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Speaker 3: the local colonists celebrated, you know, getting through the winter

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Speaker 3: or the harvest. I guess it was and they ate

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Speaker 3: seafood and wild turkey, and you know, I like turkey,

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Speaker 3: but I guess the turkey is a symbol because they

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Speaker 3: ate it at like the first Thanksgiving. I kind of

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Speaker 3: wish they had pizza and chicken palmersan at the first

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Speaker 3: and that became the tradition. But other than that, I

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Speaker 3: love it too much.

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Speaker 4: Trip to fan for you.

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Speaker 2: You can act, Yeah, so funny. So I'm gonna test

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Speaker 2: you guys on something. So I was thinking back to

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Speaker 2: like past Thanksgivings, and one Thanksgiving sticks out for me

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Speaker 2: as a Phillies beat writer. I'm gonna throw a date

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Speaker 2: at you. November twenty fifth, two thousand and five, day

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Speaker 2: before Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: Boom. What happened that day.

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Speaker 3: Two thousand and.

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Speaker 4: Fo November was that when Millwood was Is that Milwood new?

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Speaker 1: It was not? It was.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you November November twenty fifth, two thousand

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Speaker 2: and five. It was the Wednesday before Thanksgiving. Both of

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Speaker 2: you guys were involved in this. I remember reporting, Okay,

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Speaker 2: go for Jim.

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Speaker 3: I remember driving up to New England and reporting and

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Speaker 3: having my cell phone on the Connecticut Turnpike at reporting

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Speaker 3: that story. As Jim Tolmy was sent to the white

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Speaker 3: sox right.

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Speaker 2: Yes, correct for Aaron Rowand and leeftended pitcher Geo Gonzales

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Speaker 2: was there to be named, and Daniel Hagwood Daniel, Yes.

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Speaker 3: I actually I actually was able to track down Jim

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Speaker 3: that night, and I still remember speaking to him from

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Speaker 3: from my brother's house up in New England. And uh

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Speaker 3: and then you know, writing that story and we had

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Speaker 3: remember at the Inquirer, we were at the Inquirer tob

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Speaker 3: we had really early deadlines and trying to be cut Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 3: you know, the night before Thanksgiving, and yeah, oh boy,

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Speaker 3: I remember that well.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: I remember I was in Wisconsin at my parents' house

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Speaker 2: and just talking to you while you were driving, and

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Speaker 2: I don't know who I was calling and talking to,

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Speaker 2: and just remember my folks going.

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Speaker 1: You have to work today. It's like, yeah, they just traded.

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Speaker 1: Jim told me I gotta write a story. I gotta

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Speaker 1: write a story on this, you know.

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Speaker 3: I remember, you know, heck all all heck breaking loose

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Speaker 3: on a number of holidays over the years. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean there was that year they were going, you

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Speaker 3: guys were in the mix for shilling when he ended

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Speaker 3: up in Boston, and that was sort of at Thanksgiving time.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, a lot of stuff blows up at Christmas time.

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Speaker 3: I remember one year. I remember on like a Christmas

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Speaker 3: Eve writing about Bobby Estlay having a surgery. I think

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Speaker 3: like that you guys announced that on Christmas Eve.

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Speaker 4: If thank you, Rubin, I'm here for you, my friend.

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Speaker 1: I had you know.

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Speaker 4: It was NonStop twenty four seven, baby, I can picture.

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Speaker 3: Them up there. Let's announce this when we can at

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Speaker 3: the most inconvenient time, like you know, when you know

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Speaker 3: I did it on purpose, just to.

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Speaker 2: You guys are sitting on that for a week and

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Speaker 2: said talk to pr and six thirty pm Christmas Eve,

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Speaker 1: But December.

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Speaker 3: Paul Hagen, Paul Hagen gets inducted into the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 3: And I'm up there spending the weekend trying to enjoy

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Speaker 3: watching my friend going to Hall of Fame, and Ruben

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Speaker 3: is signing Miguel Alfredo Gonzalez and I'm having to excuse

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Speaker 3: myself from dinner in the original to try to chase

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Speaker 3: this thing down. Now, Ruben's playing hard to get and

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Speaker 3: he's driving me nuts. And oh my god.

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Speaker 1: The original Mega in Philly, the original Maga.

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Speaker 3: You know, that sounds really funny, but I can't hear you.

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Speaker 1: You know, we were muffling each other.

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Speaker 4: The original Mega and oh yeah, we were making baseball

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Speaker 4: great again in Philly.

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Speaker 1: The Gallifred. That is so funny.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: Well, we don't expect any big Thanksgiving. Well I shouldn't

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Speaker 2: say we don't expect. They could spring it on us

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Speaker 2: at a moment's notice today. I mean, very well, Jim,

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Speaker 2: you and I could be rushing to our our laptops

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Speaker 2: at you know, nine o'clock Wednesday night for a big

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Speaker 2: Phillies trade. But there's been a lot of talk about

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Speaker 2: Wan Soto. There's a report just a few days ago

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Speaker 2: that the Phillies.

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Speaker 1: Have not met with one so Photo yet.

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Speaker 2: They you know, they they they're gonna meet with them

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Speaker 2: at some point, but also that they have not even

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Speaker 2: communicated at all with Scott Boris or anybody associated with

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Speaker 2: Scott Boris. I've been told that, no surprise, they've they've

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Speaker 2: communicated with Scott Boris about one Soto another, So that that,

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Speaker 2: you know, I can tell you that they have not

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Speaker 2: them at some point. I don't know when that will be.

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Speaker 2: But there's you know, so just.

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Speaker 1: A little colonel.

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Speaker 2: It's not a big deal, but just wanted to mention

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Speaker 2: it because we.

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Speaker 3: Do we even do we even think it gets the stage.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure they do their due diligence, but does it

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Speaker 1: Great point, I don't know that it may or may not.

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Speaker 4: I know that they're going to start fielding offers, at

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Speaker 4: least that's the rumor out there. They haven't made that

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Speaker 1: Scott Force doesn't really need.

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Speaker 4: A presentation or so maybe he maybe would want one

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Speaker 4: if he's going to sign with him. But I mean,

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Speaker 4: in Harper. So I don't know. It's a great point though, Jim.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if they get to the point where

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Speaker 4: they're and I think what John Nelson actually said, I

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Speaker 4: don't mind being a stocking.

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Speaker 1: Horse, but.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure if if, if they get to the

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Speaker 4: point where they're where they're able to make an offer,

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Speaker 4: and I think it. I think that they probably have

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Speaker 4: some moving parts, like if they don't move salary like

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Speaker 1: I don't know that they really can.

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Speaker 4: So I think that might come after the winter meetings

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Speaker 4: or after you know, somebody's moved off of their off

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Speaker 3: I mean, because these offers generally came after the presentation,

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Speaker 3: the sizzle video, the me eating the private jet. Then

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Speaker 3: then the offer rolls. And I'm just wondering when I

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Speaker 3: that are involved in this situation, namely Scott Boris. He

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Speaker 3: also represents Bryce Harper. We've heard and seen evidence that

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Speaker 3: Bryce Harper would like an extension or a bump on

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Speaker 3: the AAV you know who knows. I mean, is it

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Speaker 3: do you make a big offer to somebody when you

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Speaker 3: probably know it might come up short. How does that

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Speaker 3: affect how another Boris client kind of looks at things

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Speaker 3: when he may be starting to feel a little bit underpaid.

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Speaker 3: I think it's kind of complicating.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very Yeah, it's very complicated.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you think of you know, say they throw

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Speaker 2: there and go, this guy's worth one hundred and seventy

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Speaker 2: million dollars more than me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean even if you do, even if you

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Speaker 3: don't consummate the deal, it.

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Speaker 2: Do you have the money? Yeah, it's the offered it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm about throw us a little my way.

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Speaker 4: It's it can get a little complicated.

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Speaker 1: I mean I went through that.

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Speaker 4: A little bit with when we ended up signing Cliff

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Speaker 4: told him at that at that point, I.

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Speaker 1: Told Roy he was going to be the highest paid

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Speaker 4: Two years later, I'm I'm.

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Speaker 1: Reneging on that now.

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Speaker 4: I talked to him about it and discussed it with

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Speaker 4: him prior to let him know that we were in

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Speaker 1: He was very meanable.

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Speaker 4: It was like, I don't care, man, Yeah, I got

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Speaker 4: you know, do whatever you gotta do to make this

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Speaker 4: team be a winner. And that was sort of the

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Speaker 4: beauty of Royaliday. But I don't know what the psyche

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Speaker 4: I would assume he'll say, hey, get the best players

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Speaker 4: who we can get, you know, so we can get

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Speaker 4: that trophy back. But but you're also telling you're.

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Speaker 3: Also telling the agent, hey, we have this this money,

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Speaker 3: and now the agent's gonna you know, he's has a

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Speaker 3: just seems very convoluted and slippery, sloppish to me, except.

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Speaker 4: You know, the reality of it was when when he

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Speaker 4: signed that contract, Bryce Harper, no one had a gun

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Speaker 4: to his head. I mean, he was a guy that

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Speaker 4: signed the contract willingly. He wanted to stay in Philly.

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Speaker 4: He had no trade you know, he didn't want to

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Speaker 4: go anywhere. He's got no opt outs in there, and

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Speaker 4: so that was a decision that he made.

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Speaker 1: And so I mean, it's a contract man, as far

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Speaker 1: as I'm concerned.

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Speaker 4: It's not like the NBA or the NFL, where you

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Speaker 4: can like opt out of your you know, you're allowed

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Speaker 4: to opt out or you asked.

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Speaker 3: Him to come out of it.

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Speaker 4: So, I mean, this guarantee. The beauty of guaranteed money

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Speaker 4: is that you get it's guaranteed. So if he flops

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Speaker 4: or gets hurt or whatever the case, may be he

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Speaker 4: still gets paid.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: It is complicated.

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Speaker 1: It is complicated, very complicated.

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Speaker 2: So thanks Giving is tomorrow, It's Thursday, and so we

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Speaker 2: thought we would talk about things in baseball that we're

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Speaker 2: thankful for.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're in the we're in the holiday.

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Speaker 3: I got a game winning hit it in Uh.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I was there a triple down the right field

445
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Speaker 4: line or double down the right field line off with somebody.

446
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 3: I think it was late in the game because I

447
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,159
Speaker 3: had already gone down the stands. You know, we had

448
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,439
Speaker 3: to work your way down and it was like I

449
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,479
Speaker 3: was standing in one of the little alleys there and

450
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 3: it happened right in front of me, and I think

451
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 3: you were actually po'd at me, and you kind of

452
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,639
Speaker 3: big time to me after the game, working to me.

453
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Speaker 3: That's how I do it. I wasn't asked fun. I

454
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Speaker 3: keep it to one minute.

455
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Speaker 1: That was That was pretty good. That was pretty good. Yeah,

456
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Speaker 1: you know, I've had.

457
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Speaker 3: Took me down memory lane, Jim.

458
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Speaker 1: That was sweet. That's awesome.

459
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Speaker 2: YEA have so many great, you know moments covering the

460
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,159
Speaker 2: Phillies for sure. I mean Halliday's Hallidays no hitter in

461
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,680
Speaker 2: the nld S was just I mean it was just unbelievable.

462
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 2: Hamil's Wrigley Field, the double Horrera catch after that game,

463
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 2: O Double Horror makes this circus catch on the warning

464
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 2: track and O'duble's coming out of the out of the shower,

465
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 2: and I you know, his English wasn't great, but he

466
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 2: could understand it one hundred percent clear. I go, we

467
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 2: need to talk to you after you're done getting dressed.

468
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,880
Speaker 2: Don't go anywhere. Dude, leaves just left the clubhouse. I'm

469
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 2: asking Philly's I'm like, where do dubele go? Like, I

470
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 2: think he left for the bus, So I take off.

471
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:25,679
Speaker 2: I'm running down the corridor like a huge loser and

472
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Speaker 2: Oduble's about to get in the bus. I've never done this.

473
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,439
Speaker 2: I've never chased a player of the bus. It's just

474
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Speaker 2: something you don't do. I grab him on the shoulder,

475
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,160
Speaker 2: go like this. He jumps up, scared, scared the crap

476
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Speaker 2: out of him, and uh, thank god, Andres Blanco was there,

477
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Speaker 2: Whitey and.

478
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Speaker 1: Uh, I go, I go, what are you doing?

479
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 2: We need to talk to you, and Andre's blanker goes

480
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 2: what I said, this guy left without talking to us.

481
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 2: He made the final out of this ridiculous catch. And

482
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Speaker 2: Andre's Blanco I didn't know what he was saying in Spanish,

483
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Speaker 2: but he was basically yelling at odubl Horrera and Spanish

484
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 2: going are you insane?

485
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Speaker 1: You've got to talk to these guys.

486
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 2: And so Whitey translated for me and it got our quotes,

487
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:05,919
Speaker 2: gave it to you know, passed it over to the

488
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Speaker 2: all the other writers.

489
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Speaker 1: Because I said, I'm gonna run after him. I'm gonna

490
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Speaker 1: catch that guy before he gets on the bus.

491
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Speaker 3: So how about o'douball o'double never knew anybody's name. He

492
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 3: didn't know anybody's name, so you know, he's here for years.

493
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 3: And Greg Castrianto is the great PR guy. And Greg

494
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 3: goes up to him one day and says, hey, hey,

495
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Speaker 3: double my name you had here three years. My name

496
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Speaker 3: is Greg, call me Craig. And o'duball goes, okay, poppy,

497
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Speaker 3: and he wants to.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's good.

499
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Speaker 2: There's so many good stuff, so much good stuff.

500
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Speaker 1: I put down.

501
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Speaker 2: I mentioned that, wrote down that I was. I'm thankful

502
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:45,199
Speaker 2: for spring training in clear Water, Florida. Spring training their

503
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,959
Speaker 2: whatever you think of you know, Arizona, everything's all kind

504
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 2: of bunched together. But you think of all the locations

505
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 2: where the Phillies could be in Florida.

506
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Speaker 1: They could be no.

507
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Speaker 5: Disrespect, but they could be in Northport. They could be

508
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 5: in Port Charlotte, they could be in Lakeland, they could

509
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Speaker 5: be in Winner. You know again that's home of Charlie

510
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Speaker 5: Manuel Chary. If you're listening, no disrespect to winter Haven,

511
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 5: but there is maybe there's nothing that beats spring training

512
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Speaker 5: in Clearwater floor.

513
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Speaker 1: I mentioned this to my wife last night.

514
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Speaker 2: She goes, she goes clear That means you're gone for

515
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 2: six weeks, I said, I'm not I'm not saying I'm

516
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 2: excited to leave for six weeks. I'm just saying it's

517
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 2: a great place to have spring training. I mean in

518
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 2: the location there, it really is.

519
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Speaker 1: People.

520
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 2: You know, Phillies fans are very very lucky that they

521
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 2: can watch a baseball game in the afternoon, go down

522
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 2: to Clearwater Beach at night, you know, spend the morning

523
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 2: at the beach, go to a baseball game in the afternoon.

524
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 1: There's really nothing better than that.

525
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 2: I always tell people you should really have clear Water

526
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Speaker 2: on your bucket list of things to do while you can.

527
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 3: And the folks who run that team, the folks who

528
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 3: run the Thrashers are awesome.

529
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 2: Yes, everybody there is fantastic. Yeah, no doubt about it.

530
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 2: Just just a great ball and a great spring training ballpark. Two.

531
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Speaker 2: That's the other thing. It's not just they have a

532
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 2: great location. The ballpark is also fantastic.

533
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Speaker 1: A nice Yeah, the tiki bar and left field, you

534
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: got the.

535
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 2: Berm in the you know obviously in the outfield seats,

536
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 2: and good food, good beer there. Not that I drink

537
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 2: during the game I would like to sometimes, but clear Water,

538
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,360
Speaker 2: Clearwater Florida for spring training. I'm very thankful that that's

539
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 2: where you know, we get to spend six weeks every spring,

540
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 2: no doubt about it.

541
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Speaker 1: Great. Yeah, yeah, man, definitely a bucket lister. Yeah.

542
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 2: And then you know, and just in terms of the job,

543
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 2: you know, one of the cool parts for me, of

544
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 2: course is like just going around and seeing other ballparks.

545
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 2: I'm really it's really cool to like add up your

546
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,479
Speaker 2: tally of every ballpark you've been to. And my my

547
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 2: favorite trips every year out to the NL West. That's

548
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,360
Speaker 2: another thing I always tell people, you know, there's usually

549
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 2: a couple NL West trips where they you know, the sandwich,

550
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:58,679
Speaker 2: you know, put them back to back, you know, if

551
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 2: it's San Diego, San Francis, Go, La San Diego, et cetera.

552
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: I always say, like, if you're a.

553
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 2: Phillies fan, those are the those are the cities you

554
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 2: want to try to knock out. Petco Park, Oracle Park

555
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 2: in San Francisco, Dodger Stadium. I love Dodger Stadium, you know,

556
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 2: Chase Field that that would be at the bottom of

557
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 2: my list. But good city, good food, a lot of

558
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 2: good restaurants in those in those towns, so that that's

559
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 2: that's a kind of a cool thing as being a

560
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 2: Phillies beat writers getting a run out to the NL

561
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 2: those NL.

562
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: West cities every year. It's a lot of fun. That's

563
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: a lot of fun.

564
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 3: Good.

565
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so.

566
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 2: But yeah, so thanksgivings tomorrow, you guys, Do you guys

567
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 2: have any I.

568
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 3: Want to say? Like so, it's like twenty some odd

569
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 3: years ago I made a trip to the Dominican Republic

570
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 3: with Sal Agustinelli and it gave me so much perspective.

571
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 3: And you know, all the years, I've really had great

572
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 3: relationships with so many Latin American players and I just

573
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 3: love them, so many guys, And I love how hard

574
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 3: they try with the language, and how patient they are,

575
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 3: how courageous they are. That's hard to do and and

576
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 3: and I've had dozens of good relationships with with the

577
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 3: Latin American kids. And you know, you when you go

578
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 3: down there and you see where they came from, you

579
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 3: really have an appreciation for their for their journey, and

580
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 3: you know, seeing how bad they want. I remember going

581
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 3: to tryouts with Sal and he would, you know, lay

582
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 3: out the sixty yard dash tape measure and uh, these

583
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 3: kids were literally running for their lives. You know, they

584
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 3: were like running to change their lives and their famili's life,

585
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 3: and to see how bad they wanted and to where

586
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 3: they where they came from, and you know, the ragged

587
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 3: feels and the equipment and but the love of the

588
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 3: game they just exuded. And to see them, you know,

589
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 3: try to each for the stars and come to the

590
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 3: States and be major leagues and make it. You know,

591
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 3: he just gave me real appreciation. And I'm grateful for

592
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 3: so many of those relationships with those Latin American players,

593
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 3: you know, going back to the mid nineties, going back

594
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 3: to the mid nineties, really warm people, and a lot

595
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 3: of them have become just great friends. You know. You

596
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 3: see you see Chooch once every couple of years, a

597
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 3: big hug, you know, I mean, yeah, great. So just

598
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 3: that trip really opened my eyes and gave me an appreciation.

599
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 3: I'm really grateful for that, and I'm grateful for those guys.

600
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: That's cool.

601
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 2: I've never been in the Dominican but I would love

602
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 2: to go one day. But yeah, the fact that these

603
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 2: guys come up here and then we try to ask

604
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 2: them quite you know, and they've don't learned language. You

605
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 2: mentioned Chuch, I remember the first few years he always

606
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 2: had to have an interpreter with him when he did

607
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 2: an interview, and then by the end of it, boom

608
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: he was talking postgame, talking about the picture and what

609
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 2: a job he did and just.

610
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 3: Imitat matating Victorino, like I said, like I.

611
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 2: Said, like I said, like I said, Well, yeah, those

612
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 2: those techology tremendous.

613
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: Respect for any any of those guys, all those guys.

614
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 3: The bottom line is it's a great game and we're

615
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 3: lucky to be involved.

616
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: In it, no doubt, no doubt.

617
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 3: I mean, you know I've gotten I've gotten to live.

618
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 3: I've gotten to live. Yeah, I mean, this is my life.

619
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Speaker 4: I've gotten to live it for Wow, I've been an

620
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 4: organized I've been in organized baseball for fifty one years.

621
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: Wow.

622
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 3: I mean you have one of one of an amazing

623
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 3: run you've had. I used to go to I used

624
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 3: to go to I used to go to Fenway Park

625
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 3: as a kid. And when I was a kid, go

626
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 3: to Family Park and I would watch the bat boy,

627
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 3: and I would always say, he's got the best job

628
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 3: in the world. Well, you were the bat boy. Then

629
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 3: I got a little older and I would watch the

630
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 3: players and I say, they have the best job in

631
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 3: the world. You've got to be a player, man, you

632
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 3: you know, amazing, You've had a great run that all

633
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 3: I've been.

634
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 4: I mean, like, you know, that's another obviously one one

635
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 4: of the things I'm very grateful for. I talked about

636
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 4: a little before, but to be able to have worn

637
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 4: all these hats and to be involved in this game.

638
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: People talk about all the time.

639
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 4: Why did you go become a first base coach after

640
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 4: you were a GM That's just such a lowly job.

641
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 3: I don't really lowly job. It's an unbelievable job with

642
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 3: the Boston Red Sox, who are a great team with

643
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 3: great people and you know, great fans. I mean, come on,

644
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 3: you like you like you like John Quincy Adams after

645
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 3: he became president, he went back and became a us centator.

646
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 3: He loved the show.

647
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: Yeah that's right. I mean, it's right. And that really

648
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: does speak to how much you love the game. I mean,

649
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: you know, you're you're right.

650
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 2: I mean, you could have done anything you wanted to,

651
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 2: I suppose, but you're like, no, I want to get

652
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 2: back on and get in uniform.

653
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: Get on the field. I mean, teach some kids.

654
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 2: And you know, we had Mookie bets On earlier this year,

655
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 2: and he talked a lot about how what you taught.

656
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: Him, you know, on the field and off the field.

657
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's yeah, very very lucky lucky man.

658
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt agree. Yes, yes, we're all grateful to

659
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 2: be in baseball. We're all grateful to be doing this show.

660
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 2: We're all grateful for our listeners and viewers as well.

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Speaker 2: great Thanksgiving YouTube. Everybody listening, Maybe you're in your car

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Speaker 2: So we'll be back and eventually the Phillies are going

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Speaker 1: Something, Yeah they are. They're gonna do something. Yeah, they're

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