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Speaker 3: and the s WBC studios. Welcome in, everybody alongside Patrick

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Speaker 3: no c Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah standback.

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Speaker 4: I'm Kyle Yeolmans.

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Speaker 3: This is now the Emmy Award winning Talking Cowboys crew.

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Speaker 4: Isaiah took home another Emmy last night.

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Speaker 3: We've got a new you Emmy winner and Patrick no

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Speaker 3: c Walker, congratulations.

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Speaker 1: Sir, appreciate that. Man.

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Speaker 5: It's uh still hasn't sunk in yet, but you know,

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Speaker 5: quite surreal to experience that. You know, a lot of blood,

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Speaker 5: sweat and tears, but at the same time, it also

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Speaker 5: goes to the greatness of those around you. So surround

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Speaker 5: yourself with greatness that will help you, you know better,

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Speaker 5: tap into the greatness that is within you, and then

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Speaker 5: you can you can make some big things happen in

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Speaker 5: this life. So I'm blessed blessed to be around you, guys,

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Speaker 5: blessed to be a part of this, this organization. And

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Speaker 5: guys like one sitting at this table, Derek Nick Eatman.

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Speaker 5: Just you know, the list goes on and on, Ambar Garcia,

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Speaker 5: guys behind the scenes, Alex Lily, Chris Bean Jazz. I mean,

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Speaker 5: we got so many elite folks here that you know,

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Speaker 5: without them, none of this, none of this happened.

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Speaker 1: So go team, no way squad. It really is.

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Speaker 4: It's a it's a team effort.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what the total number ended up being

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Speaker 3: last night?

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Speaker 1: Not at all? Did you?

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Speaker 6: Did you bring them all home? Because you made all

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Speaker 6: the speeches. Derek came and loaded them up in his vehicle.

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Speaker 7: Okay, so Derek came and got he had them all.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot backed up the U. It was a lot.

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Speaker 1: That was awesome. It was a lot.

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Speaker 8: Cod truck, if you will. He backed it up and

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Speaker 8: loaded them up.

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Speaker 6: At least there was at least forty of them things,

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Speaker 6: you think, so, Lord, yeah, that's awesome.

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Speaker 3: Well, congratulations to everybody in the department that ended up winning.

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Speaker 1: Uh for those that knows how to stick some talent.

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Speaker 7: I was just about to say, for those that don't know.

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Speaker 3: This department is uber talented in terms of what they

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Speaker 3: do on a day to day basis, and we are

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Speaker 3: we are just blessed to be a part of it

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Speaker 3: along the way, but super happy. And we've we're the uh,

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Speaker 3: we're the only show, the only podcast that has three

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Speaker 3: Emmy winners as.

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Speaker 1: A part more than two.

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Speaker 3: We so just wow, I just thought I.

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Speaker 1: Thought it sprinkled. I mean, there's JV and then there's Varce.

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Speaker 7: Shot shots fire.

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Speaker 3: All Right, We've got lots to catch up on because

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Speaker 3: since we were on the air Monday, things have happened

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Speaker 4: Couple things along the way making moves.

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Speaker 3: Moves have been made, papers have been signed, and it

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Speaker 3: looks like there may be some more to come. But

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Speaker 3: we're gonna talk about ceed Lamb. He's back in the building.

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Speaker 3: He was back in practice yesterday. Four years, one hundred

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Speaker 3: and thirty six million dollars, one hundred of that guaranteed.

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Speaker 1: Really the deal.

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Speaker 7: That I think a lot of us anticipated.

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Speaker 3: Where it's just underneath the Justin Jefferson highest non paid

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Speaker 3: But it is a significant contract and now the first

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, and to say that Ceedee Lamb has earned his

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Speaker 5: contract is a gross understatement. And also when you're talking

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Speaker 5: unlike Minnesota, Texas does not have any state Texas. So

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Speaker 5: mathematically speaking, as far as take home greatest concerned, Ceede

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Speaker 5: and he talked about how ready he is, quote unquote,

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Speaker 1: When does this happen?

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Speaker 5: Ceedee Lamb had a fantastic quote when it comes to

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Speaker 5: for the foreseeable future. Also said everybody knows Jerry Jones

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Speaker 5: it done. Let's kill the speculation. End quote. So to

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Speaker 1: It's a package deal for me.

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Speaker 5: Right, if you're talking about extend Dak Prescott, you should

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Speaker 5: be talking about getting the deal done for CD Lamb.

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Speaker 5: Now that you have the deal done for Ceedee Lamb,

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Speaker 5: you need to get the deal done for Dak Prescott

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Speaker 5: because of what they are for each other production wise

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Speaker 1: So package deal.

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Speaker 5: So now the question is when does the Dak Prescott

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Speaker 5: deal land. I'm not saying if I said when when

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Speaker 5: it came to Ceedee Lamb and here we are, I'm

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Speaker 1: When would you get it done? Isaiah by Friday.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that quick, I like that.

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Speaker 1: Knock it out.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I foresee Friday at the earliest, That's my expectation.

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Speaker 6: And at the latest, I would say Wednesday next week.

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Speaker 7: Wow, So not a long window.

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's get Isaiah upstairs.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, an elevator. Elevator for a number of reasons. For

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Speaker 6: a number of reasons. I mean from the standpoint of

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Speaker 6: you do not want to have these conversations, nor do

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Speaker 6: you want to take attention away from the team leading

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Speaker 1: Also, it has to.

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Speaker 6: Get done by next week, by next Sunny Day, by

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Speaker 6: he the probability of him coming back is slim to

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Speaker 6: none because there's a due down in Las Vegas. I

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Speaker 1: But we know that that guy would pay a ton.

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Speaker 8: Would he be the most highly yes, yes, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 8: It would just be the biggest free agent of all

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Speaker 3: I mean, when Tom's deal was up there and there

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Speaker 8: But a bigger name since since since Tom Bradley.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he would be the biggest name this offseason,

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Speaker 3: no doubt, not even close, especially if he has a

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Speaker 3: they should get it.

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Speaker 4: Done Friday to Wednesday of this one.

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Speaker 6: You can't run the risk of having a competition in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not even in the cards.

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Speaker 6: You can't allow that because, yeah, everybody has deep pockets

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Speaker 1: So that's the last thing you want. And you also

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Speaker 1: don't want the distractions.

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Speaker 6: And we also know that Dak from and Dak and

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Speaker 6: I'm focused on winning games now.

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Speaker 8: And his cap hit this year would be fifty five

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Speaker 6: Correct, yeah, I mean, I mean I have no Jedi,

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Speaker 6: but so I think the deal is probably fifty eighty runner.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't think it'll all hit this year,

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Speaker 3: No one, no, no, I'm saying I think I think his annual.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And to add to Isaiah's point, one of the reasons

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Speaker 5: that you should and another reason you should have urgency

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Speaker 5: to get this deal done is salary cap management purposes.

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Speaker 5: So I put this out there on Twitter yesterday, Ceedee Lamb.

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Speaker 5: He was sitting to hit the Cowboys for a little

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Speaker 5: bit under eighteen million dollars fully guaranteed on that fifth

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Speaker 5: they turn that into only a eight point seventy five

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Speaker 5: Prescott currently set to hit the Cowboys cap in twenty

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Speaker 5: that turns into twenty two million dollars in savings. That

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Speaker 3: That's like another Pro Bowl caliber player at a different position.

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Speaker 3: Quite percent, that's exactly, quite literally what it is.

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Speaker 8: And when you still need to pay Mica down the

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Speaker 5: And the caveat is is that NFL teams are required

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Speaker 5: to use roughly ninety percent of the total salary cap

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Speaker 5: when you're talking about what does free agency look like,

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Speaker 5: we know the Cowboys don't play in the first wave

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Speaker 5: to get one or two guys. Nonetheless, these are huge

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Speaker 5: the fact that the cap is going to go up

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Speaker 5: in and of itself, right.

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Speaker 7: So not expecting to go up as much as it happens.

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Speaker 5: It's not going to jump another thirty million dollars, right,

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Speaker 5: but it could. I think the projection right now is

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Speaker 5: over to sixty. So because right now it's like two

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Speaker 5: fifty five.

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Speaker 7: I think it was like ten million.

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Speaker 3: Over the next five years, it's not going to be

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Speaker 3: It could be a little bit in there.

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Speaker 5: Just it's not going to be exponentially explosive like it

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Speaker 5: going to see that growth. So all things considered, you

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Speaker 5: you're talking about pouring Scrooge McDuck money, bend money onto

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Speaker 1: And so it's Isaiah's point.

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Speaker 5: You want to get it done for all the reasons

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Speaker 5: I said, Isaiah said, and in addition to a wide

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Speaker 5: salary cap says get or done, there's no reason not to.

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Speaker 7: So Dak is the next one up. I think we

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Speaker 3: Of course MICA's after that, and then of course some

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Speaker 4: And there's I mean.

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Speaker 3: There's a difference between conditioning and working out by yourself.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he'll be one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: You probably have an eighty five percent. You know, CD.

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Speaker 6: I mean that's just the reality of it. That's not

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Speaker 8: Well, on top of what you said, he gained fifteen

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, and the game of football when you're

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Speaker 1: Even if you're wearing the whole pad, all the pads.

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Speaker 1: This is just the reality.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely knocking on all the wood you can find,

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Speaker 6: But six days of practice possibly about about that, It

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Speaker 6: That's not that, that's no knock on his off season training.

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Speaker 6: It's just the facts that he has not been playing

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Speaker 6: I know Patrick, I know you, you probably know where

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Speaker 6: I'm going with this Week one games will for everybody's

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Speaker 6: looking up the box score and there's four targets, three

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Speaker 4: On Week one, everybody's saying, we paid this.

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Speaker 3: Guy what there's a probably there's a chance that that happens,

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Speaker 1: No, you don't forge out. There was no freaking out.

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Speaker 6: And people don't want to hear ramp by contract, especially

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Speaker 8: But hit that go round, Yeah he's going to see.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not that good. He's not a transformer, he's

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Speaker 5: But that's the same man, right, exactly, these guys need

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Speaker 5: So while he's he being ceedee lamb, while he said

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Speaker 5: see if the Cowboys give him a full slate of targets,

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Speaker 5: because there's a difference between targets and reps. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Back, Ceedee Lamb.

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Speaker 5: So I will say, you know, I hope that he

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Speaker 1: Far as what he might do or might not do

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Speaker 5: If he goes out and he has, you know, ten

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Speaker 1: Well that means Cooks eight.

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Speaker 5: That does mean hopefully, it means it means Jake Ferguson, Tober,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you have other guys, don't you do it?

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Speaker 1: And that was the benefit, that was the benefit.

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Speaker 6: Oh you mean, jeez, but no, that's the benefit of

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Speaker 6: But Ceedee Lamb not being in camp Brandon Cooks, yes,

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Speaker 1: Were just joint at the hip these guys were.

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Speaker 6: These guys were in unisons, right, So that's the benefit

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Speaker 6: because now as you're ramping up, Ceedee Lamb, he's still

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Speaker 6: a threat, regardless if he's if he's if he's a MIDS,

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Speaker 6: he's in former, or no, he's you still better respect him.

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Speaker 6: With him saying he's gonna Tostito, Yeah, Tostito's plaza, it

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Speaker 1: Him the same way.

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Speaker 6: And now you have the chemistry of a Dak Prescott

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Speaker 6: you until we get on that one, accurt I got

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Speaker 5: And don't forget don't forget about the rookie Ryan Flinoy.

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Speaker 5: I mean he's he's making some ways. We saw him

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Speaker 5: the best decoys in the NFL in Week one, and

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Speaker 1: That gets to lean on those guys as well. Two

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and and Brandon Brandon Cooks by the way, Sid No,

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Speaker 5: he returned to practice yesterday. He missed the final week

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Speaker 3: So great, great news, great news. Over under seventy five

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Speaker 1: Over over, over over over, I'm gonna go under.

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Speaker 4: I think I would go barely under that.

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Speaker 1: I was going to say, like seventy seven.

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Speaker 3: So I'm like, I'm not very good at making CD

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Speaker 6: So nothing wrong with we can make a Brandon Cooks Betoks.

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Speaker 4: You don't want to make a brand.

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Speaker 3: we don't have enough hot sauce. I had somebody bring

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Speaker 3: I laugh at the hot sauce. I wanna wear that

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Speaker 5: Do you remember the mudding shirt catfishing that had your

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Speaker 8: I don't know what that is.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about it all right when we come back.

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Speaker 3: Old stuff here on Talking Cowboys. Ceedee Lamb may not

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Speaker 1: Good motes.

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Speaker 3: You know who had eighteen seventy seven rushing yards in

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Speaker 3: a single season one time?

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Speaker 1: That is elite segue.

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Speaker 4: I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 1: He didn't was about to say good ground, that's perfect.

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Speaker 3: The most the most he ever had was in twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty at fifteen hundred and fifty seven yards with sixteen touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Who's that? Who might that be? Dalvin Cook?

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Speaker 3: Running back formerly of the Yeah sounds familiar, Formerly of

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Speaker 3: the Minnesota Vikings. He then made the switch to the

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Speaker 3: Baltimore Ravens in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 4: Three, and then ended with the New York Jets.

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Speaker 3: Well, he was released earlier this week and reports are

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Speaker 3: right now Patrick Online. The NFL posted it this morning

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Speaker 3: that yeah, the Cowboys are expected to sign Dalvin Cook.

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Speaker 4: Nothing official, Yeah, no official.

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Speaker 3: But what do you think about that move and really

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Speaker 3: the possibility it brings for this running back?

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Speaker 1: Well, first, let's frame it the right way.

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Speaker 5: The expectation is that the Cowboys will sign Dalvin Cook,

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Speaker 5: but to the practice squad, okay, not to the fifty

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Speaker 5: three man roster. I saw some fans that were concerned,

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Speaker 5: what does this mean for Dukes faw Nothing? What does

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Speaker 5: it mean for maybe Rico Daldo Ezekiel Elliott As it stands, nothing.

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Speaker 5: The goal is to bring Dalvin Cook in on the

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Speaker 5: practice squad, ramp him up, get him ready for whenever.

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Speaker 1: They might need him. He'll serve as insurance.

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Speaker 5: Not different from what we were talking about on Monday

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Speaker 5: when I was speaking Royce Freeman to the practice squad

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Speaker 5: for insurance purposes and just just as a reminder, practice

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Speaker 5: squad players can be elevated a maximum of three times,

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Speaker 5: so they'll have three elevations for Dalvin Cook. On the

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Speaker 5: third elevation, they have to decide to either keep him

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Speaker 5: on the active roster or they have to release him.

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Speaker 5: But he's vested, he's not subject to waivers, so they

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Speaker 5: could play that game a couple of times before the

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Speaker 5: trade deadline. Because after the trade deadline, even vested veterans

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Speaker 5: or subject to waivers, So they could elevate him three

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Speaker 5: times before the trade deadline at the end of October

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Speaker 5: slash beginning of November, release him without making an active

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Speaker 5: roster move corresponding, and then resign him like the next day.

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Speaker 1: So you know, they could play that game if they want,

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Speaker 1: so it gives them time to see lots lots.

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Speaker 8: I think expectations need to be tempered a little bit.

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Speaker 8: For Dalvin Cook, that his best year. Like you said

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Speaker 8: that fifteen hundred yards, that was twenty twenty, a.

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Speaker 4: Long time ago, A long time ago, at bit.

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Speaker 8: A lot of it, a lot of bit. It's a

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Speaker 8: big name, for sure, and that's always nice to see.

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Speaker 8: But the last time he played seventeen games, he only

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Speaker 8: had eleven hundred rushing yards and eight touchdowns. That was

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Speaker 8: the last time he played seventeen games.

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Speaker 3: Which was not I would take eleven hundred rushing yards

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Speaker 3: in eight touchdowns right now, but I don't think that's happening.

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Speaker 8: I think combined with with Zeke Rico, I think you're

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Speaker 8: gonna get that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, at least yeah, they're.

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Speaker 6: Gonna get Wait, so we had we had this conversation, right,

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Speaker 6: I think we talked about this on Monday. What does

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Speaker 6: he provide that's different than what you currently have in

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Speaker 6: the room?

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Speaker 4: Completely agree?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like you said, we had this conversation, and I

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Speaker 3: haven't changed my thought process.

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Speaker 5: It's increases with the redundancy, which is why you put

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Speaker 5: Saying on the practice squad instead of the active roster,

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Speaker 5: same reason I said you can Royce streaming around. It's

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Speaker 5: for insurance if you were to suffer injury to Rico.

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Speaker 6: Or do you have any concerns, okay about personality, fits, character,

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Speaker 6: whatever it might be the fact that he's bounced around

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Speaker 6: a little bit here in his last few years.

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Speaker 5: I don't have any personality or character I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I don't have any personality or character character concerns. I've

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Speaker 5: quite literally never heard of Dalvin Cook being any type

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Speaker 5: of locking the issue with any organization. And then also

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Speaker 5: keep in mind, albeit on the opposite side of the

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Speaker 5: ball where Zimmer is now, there's that relationship as well.

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Speaker 5: So this this is something that Zimmer gave a green

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Speaker 5: light to. And I doubt that Zimmer would have given

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Speaker 5: Mike McCarthy and wiltrom Clay and Stephen Jones Jerry Jones

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Speaker 5: the green light if in their time together in Minnesota,

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Speaker 5: Delvin was any kind of distraction. So no, I don't

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Speaker 5: have any character issues at all. I think for me,

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Speaker 5: it's much like what Josh is saying, you have to

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Speaker 5: look at tempering your expectations production wise, because one of

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Speaker 5: the numbers you want to keep an eye on is

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Speaker 5: the fact that the last time he was touching the ball,

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Speaker 5: he averaged only three point two yards per carry, So

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Speaker 5: he most certainly at this point in his career, needs

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Speaker 5: a dominant offensive line. Good news is that the Cowboys

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Speaker 5: might actually field might be a dominant offensive line.

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Speaker 8: There's still a lot of hope up front might And

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Speaker 8: if you think about it, he went to the Ravens

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Speaker 8: when they were in desperate need of a running game

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Speaker 8: at the end of their season and did not I

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Speaker 8: think he played in all, but I think he played

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Speaker 8: two games for them after being on the practice squad

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Speaker 8: and ultimately didn't. The yards per carry was pretty low

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Speaker 8: there as well, and they decided not to bring him

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Speaker 8: back either.

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Speaker 6: What was ultimately the reason why he left the Jets

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Speaker 6: because there was a lot of hype that off season

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Speaker 6: in regards to the Jets, but it was a.

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Speaker 1: Lot of hype that year. It was Aaron Rodgers coming

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Speaker 1: in coming in the Jets mess.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if they're that much of a mess.

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Speaker 3: And I mean, I know they are as like a

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Speaker 3: general historic franchise of everything, but their death chart is

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Speaker 3: pretty damn and if we're talking about running.

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Speaker 5: Backs, but it's also and this is what I mean,

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Speaker 5: because he has signed with the Jets under the understanding

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Speaker 5: and that he was the guy he was.

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Speaker 1: But then he got there and they were like, h

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Speaker 1: just kidding.

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Speaker 5: Brescee Hall stepped up and and that immediately turned into

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Speaker 5: a disgruntled version of why is that a problem? Why

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Speaker 5: is it a problem? You'd have to ask him why.

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Speaker 5: That's because the production because here predure even justified.

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Speaker 6: I'm sure the expectation has been set substantially differently, and

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Speaker 6: that might be.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing. That might be.

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Speaker 6: The thing is I'm that type of person as well, right,

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Speaker 6: set my expectations properly same. So now you're walking into

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Speaker 6: the situation where you understand correct that it's a shared

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Speaker 6: If he shared back like he was lied to by

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Speaker 6: the Jays, then you can see why the dominoes filled

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Speaker 6: the way they did in this situation.

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Speaker 5: They're looking at him saying, practice squad, ramp up and

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Speaker 5: then we will see so he knows coming in that's

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Speaker 5: what that's the lane he's in.

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Speaker 10: I mean, he played fifteen games with the Jets, so

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Speaker 10: it wasn't like I mean they held on to him

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Speaker 10: all year.

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Speaker 3: One start though, and he was banged up earlier in

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Speaker 3: the year. He was banged up and then Breese Hall

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Speaker 3: had the coming out party at Medlights against the Giants,

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Speaker 3: and then that was the.

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Speaker 4: End of the.

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Speaker 11: Real role there.

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Speaker 3: They've got Braylan Allen who's a rookie. They have Isaiah

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Speaker 3: Davis who's a rookie.

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Speaker 1: Both of those.

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Speaker 11: Guys are really damn good.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know.

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Speaker 3: But they have these this young stable of running backs

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Speaker 3: that they can find out of all these draft picks

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Speaker 3: that were fifth round or above. And Dalvin Cook doesn't

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Speaker 3: necessarily fit the young running back mold that the Jets

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Speaker 3: are looking for.

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Speaker 4: I think that's ultimately why they moved on.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's because of anything Cook did or

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Speaker 3: said or how he played specifically. I just don't think

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Speaker 3: he is the youth that the Jets are looking for

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Speaker 3: in the running back spot because they need to stay

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Speaker 3: young outside of Aaron Rodgers in those other positions in

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Speaker 3: order to have some success this year. On off, I agreed,

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Speaker 3: but overall, it's I mean, is this just a low risk,

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Speaker 3: high rewards sort of deal practice squad.

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Speaker 4: It's a going on.

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Speaker 6: It's a safe bet for the Cowboys. You get somebody

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Speaker 6: who's a veteran, you get somebody who's who's tried and true.

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Speaker 6: You get somebody who can run downhill, who can block,

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Speaker 6: can catch out the backfield, who just a handful of

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Speaker 6: years ago was considered to be one of the best

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Speaker 6: in the league. And now you come in here and

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Speaker 6: to your point, you know, low risk, you know, come

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Speaker 6: on to the practice squad. Let's get you in shape.

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Speaker 6: Let's see what you're capable of, and see where your

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Speaker 6: mindset's at. Let's see what how you can possibly contribute

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Speaker 6: to this room. And if we see that that's that

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Speaker 6: that's going to be something that you could do, then

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Speaker 6: we'll elevate you.

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Speaker 1: And if you produce, then we'll sign you. And honestly

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Speaker 1: and we'll get to this.

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Speaker 5: I'm not going to spoil my picks for back into

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Speaker 5: segment three, but let's let me just put it this way,

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Speaker 5: Devin Cook is not the only running back that I

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Speaker 5: would add to this practice.

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Speaker 7: So actually, let's do it now, Let's do it.

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Speaker 4: Let's do it now, Okay, anyone?

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Speaker 1: Interesting?

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Speaker 3: My thought process was what were the cuts that were

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Speaker 3: surprising across the league?

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Speaker 1: Right? Yep?

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Speaker 3: What were some of those guys the names that that

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Speaker 3: popped up? I know, Cadarius Tony from Kansas City was one. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: interesting is that one that you were looking at?

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Speaker 8: Not for the Cowboy. I thought it was surprising. That's

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Speaker 8: because it's a big name. Sure, granted you saw the

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Speaker 8: season that he had last year in Knas City, which

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Speaker 8: was pretty.

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Speaker 5: He was refreshed though overall over what happened with the

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Speaker 5: Giants though that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was better in Kansas City than he was

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Speaker 3: in New York, no doubt that's fair.

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Speaker 8: But he did have a really rough fair season last

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Speaker 8: season and did not play in the oude of all

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Speaker 8: unactive a lot of blue tints during the Super Bowl

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Speaker 8: and that had to that had to affect his confidence

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Speaker 8: level at some point. And obviously you know, being cut

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Speaker 8: is is interesting as well. Another interesting one for me

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Speaker 8: was Lee Collins, who we brought in at the end

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Speaker 8: of last season due to injuries on offense lines.

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Speaker 1: Wrong.

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Speaker 8: Uh, it's interesting to see another Cowboy draft pick or

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Speaker 8: well not necessarily draft pick, but Siginny. Yeah, on on

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Speaker 8: the way for wire after roster cuts.

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Speaker 1: That just no, no, not I was wepping something.

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Speaker 5: I just I just imagine, just me touching on on

664
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Speaker 5: the names that you put out there, Lyle Collins really

665
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Speaker 5: stands out for me in the aspect of I keep

666
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Speaker 5: playing it back in my mind after I saw that

667
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 5: he was released. If he had chosen to simply stay here, right,

668
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 5: he would have at least had a chance at beating

669
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Speaker 5: out Chuma Ydoga. He would not have beat out opportunity,

670
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 5: but he would have had the opportunity. I don't Obviously

671
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 5: things did not go well for him in Buffalo, but

672
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Speaker 5: I think they he would have had a greater chance

673
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 5: to make this offensive line roster. But that's neither here

674
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 5: nor there now. But for me, I'm circling right back

675
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Speaker 5: to the running backs. I'm looking at a name like

676
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 5: Dante Foreman, and I'm also looking at a name like

677
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Speaker 5: Frank Gorge Junior. Okay, since we're talking about Buffalo, talk

678
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 5: about Frank gord Junior.

679
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Speaker 1: Right.

680
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Speaker 5: Yes, I can appreciate why Dalvin Cook is being is

681
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Speaker 5: expected to be added to the practice squad one hundred

682
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 5: percent low risk, potentially high reward. But for when you

683
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 5: look at who the Cowboys released at the position as well. Okay,

684
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 5: I was just getting a text. I was checking to

685
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 5: see if that was confirmation. But if you were looking

686
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Speaker 5: at who the Cowboys released four running backs from Malik Davis,

687
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Speaker 5: Nathaniel Pete Snoop Connor and Roy Freeman. Okay, I would

688
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 5: love to have Royce Freeman back on the practice squad.

689
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 5: But if it's for me, if it's Royce Freeman versus

690
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 5: a Dante Foreman or taking from verse, yeah, I'm taking

691
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 5: for me?

692
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Speaker 7: Is it because he's different?

693
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: He's different?

694
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 5: He does provide that change of pace And if Dalvin

695
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 5: is going to give you insurance for Rico and Zeke,

696
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 5: who's your insurance.

697
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: For duce Von? So you need and you know he's not.

698
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 5: Dante is not as shifty or quick or small as

699
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 5: duce Von. However, he does have shiftiness in his game.

700
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 5: He does have quickness and ability to catch out of

701
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 5: the backfield and produce in space. Frank Gore a little

702
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 5: bit different, more of a bowling ball right, kind of

703
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 5: like his dad.

704
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: Boy.

705
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 5: It's talented, not as talented at least, but I was

706
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 5: going to see what his upside is. I mean, if

707
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Speaker 5: you can bring in a young guy like that, he's,

708
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 5: you know, rookie, you can maybe develop into something for

709
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 5: next year, maybe the year after, because you're gonna need

710
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 5: to solve this running back situation after this year. You

711
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 5: didn't get a draft pick in for one this year,

712
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 5: so you gotta have one next year.

713
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 7: But Isaiah is on speed dial. They're going to sign

714
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 7: him up before you know.

715
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Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean for you, now you got rich.

716
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 5: So for me, it's Dante Foreman and Frank Gore Junior

717
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 5: are the two names that kind of jump off the

718
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Speaker 5: waiver wife for me. Now, my understanding is Dante Foreman

719
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 5: has kind of like a gentleman's agreement, is what reports

720
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 5: are saying. But you know, money talks, so I'm sure

721
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 5: if you sprinkle a little bit because gentlemen like money too, Yeah,

722
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 5: sprinkle a little bit more than than what what that

723
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 5: gentleman agreement says, and you could probably get them on

724
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Speaker 5: on the practice squad.

725
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 8: That's fair enough. I was, I brought up a o'

726
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 8: collins only because of injuries or our offensive line, and then.

727
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 5: That's what I mean, like he would have had opportunity

728
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 5: to make this fifty three.

729
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 8: But now I mean it might be his third time

730
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 8: coming back.

731
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Speaker 7: To you don't think so, Isaiah?

732
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Speaker 1: They on IR. They did not put Chum on IR.

733
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: That's fair, not yet well fair. It could it could

734
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: still happen. It could still happen to day.

735
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Speaker 6: But from what I understand about like all Collins, he's

736
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 6: just physically not what he was.

737
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Speaker 1: So that's the reason why i'd be against that. Yeah,

738
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: that's the thing. That's the reason why who stuck. I

739
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: don't know, there wasn't anybody that really jumped off the page.

740
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Speaker 6: I'm looking at the list right now, there's nobody that

741
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 6: I think that Dallas Cowboys have done a good job

742
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 6: of feeling their filling their holes. I think if you're

743
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 6: going to add anything, there's there's a couple of d

744
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 6: linemen into your guys that you could have added. You know,

745
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 6: might Purcelle maybe the only other guy that I was

746
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 6: add in there.

747
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 7: But you've already added some guys there, I know, but.

748
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't not to be confused, but I'm just.

749
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 7: Saying, you've already in their head there.

750
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 6: They've checked that box understood. But that's the only area

751
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 6: that I would feel that. I mean, you're not going

752
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 6: to go sign no big corners like save me how,

753
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 6: You're not gonna You're not gonna do any big splash

754
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 6: moves like that.

755
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: So you're your rolling with who you have.

756
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 6: You know, I would me personally, I want that interior

757
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 6: D line loaded, and I think they've done a good

758
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 6: job of feeling that. We'll see exactly how effective that

759
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 6: is come next week. But I want that. I want

760
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 6: that interior D line locked and loaded, because if you

761
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 6: can't move me, you can't stop me from the inside,

762
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 6: you don't saying a chance of doing anything offensively against me.

763
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 6: So the inside of that D line is absolutely everything.

764
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 6: You can have all the pass rushers in the world

765
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 6: if I run up the middle, I don't have to

766
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 6: deal with them.

767
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 5: And to that point really quickly. Linval Joseph was made

768
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 5: official on yesterday. If we're talking news practice to X team,

769
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 5: tell us about he's awesome. I mean we used to

770
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 5: go to the club together.

771
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: But us about the other side.

772
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 4: I want to hear about that. Watch films.

773
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Speaker 1: I watched film Magic City.

774
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Speaker 6: We play together in New York together. He's he's a

775
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 6: big boy. Obviously he's been in the lead for a

776
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 6: minute now.

777
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 4: He did all right in New York.

778
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 6: All right, he walked away with some jewelry. But he

779
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,479
Speaker 6: works hard, He goes about his business. You know, he's

780
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 6: he's not crazy outspoken. He just does his job and

781
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 6: he's effective at it. He understands, yeah, he understands what

782
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 6: his role is he understands that his job go in

783
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 6: there and clog some things up and let the look

784
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 6: the boys behind him room free. And you know, obviously

785
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 6: you talk about you know, Jordan Phillips coming in and

786
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 6: that's he understands that as well. Right, that was one

787
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 6: of his first comments. It's like, it's my if my

788
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 6: linebackers were Pro bowlers and I did my job.

789
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: I love that comment. So the more.

790
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 6: Guys you can get in that room that can do

791
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 6: their job effectively, the better. And I know I'll leave

792
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 6: it at that.

793
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 7: Listen, say it with your check with Friday. This is

794
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 7: I don't care it is Friday.

795
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: Okay, that's true, last show of the week.

796
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 6: The reality is coach Zimmer is having a tremendous impact

797
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 6: on the decisions that are being made upstairs, clearly, and

798
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 6: he is unwilling to wait on the development of certain players.

799
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 6: Say it, Mazzi, He's he has not seen what he

800
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 6: needed to see what he needed to see to feel

801
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 6: comfortable and confident going into this regular season. From Mazzie,

802
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 6: that's not to say that he's not going to become that.

803
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 6: But we had the same conversation last year and Mazzi's

804
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 6: not big enough, he's not heavy enough. I don't think

805
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 6: his shoulders strong enough yet, and I don't think that

806
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 6: he's as dominant as they want him to be it,

807
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 6: And you have to go fill those gaps.

808
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: You can't just because you've invested a first.

809
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 6: Round pick doesn't mean that you sit up there and

810
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 6: just allow yourself to have a weak spot.

811
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 1: You have to address it.

812
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 6: If you're bringing in big Jordan Phillips, if you're bringing

813
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 6: in Limn Phield Joseph, if you still have Osa diggiez

814
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 6: or if you still have Goals, if you still have

815
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 6: these cats in there, you're going to be pretty dog

816
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 6: on solid. And guess what, young fella, I love you,

817
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 6: but watch the big fella's work.

818
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: So here's where I learned with that.

819
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 5: Here's where I learned that even even if Mike Zimmer

820
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 5: looked at Mazzi throughout training camp and said, you know what,

821
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 5: I feel good, James Brown style, I feel good, you

822
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 5: still had a depth issue. You still needed to bring

823
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 5: in Linval, if you still needed to make a move

824
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 5: for Jordan Phillips. So I say that to say, I

825
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 5: don't know that these additions are as much of a

826
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 5: demerit to Mazie Smith's progress. As it is, Mike Zimmer

827
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 5: understanding better than most defensive coordinators, and he said this

828
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 5: shortly after he was hired. He said, stop the run,

829
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 5: stop the run, stop the run, and that includes improving

830
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 5: linebackers as well. So look at the moves that the

831
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 5: Cowboys have made defensively. They've wildly upgraded linebacker play and

832
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 5: presumably we'll see how it plays out. But with the

833
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 5: additions of Phillipson and Naval Joseph, they've upgraded the run

834
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 5: defense on that interior as well. We'll see how the

835
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 5: edges work. Marshawn Neeland, he's taking the strides in the

836
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 5: absence of Sam Williams Carl last and expected to get

837
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 5: an offer to come back to the practice squad. But

838
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 5: he talked about ramp up. Yeah, I'm hearing that he

839
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 5: would need that.

840
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: He wasn't ready.

841
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, but if you can discourage and I need the

842
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 6: fans understand us. If you can discourage a team from

843
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 6: running the ball up the middle louder, what are then

844
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 6: your options offensively louder?

845
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: Then they can run it to the outside, which is.

846
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 3: And and over and demon you got speed, that's your

847
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 3: advantage to hit on the outside.

848
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 6: Speed at the second level your advantage. So I'm discouraging

849
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 6: you from going up the middle running the ball. So

850
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 6: if I have to run it, I'm gonna try to

851
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 6: go outside where I gotta deal with Micahu. No, I'm

852
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,760
Speaker 6: gonna go deal with d lok crap. There's guys behind

853
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 6: them that are flowing to the ball fast. Okay, cool,

854
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 6: you know what. Screw that, I'm gonna drop back and pass.

855
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 1: Okay.

856
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 6: So if I'm gonna throw, guess what Now, I have

857
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 6: interior being. I have to use a center and a

858
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 6: guard to block these guys on the inside. So what

859
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 6: does that make me do?

860
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: Now? Okay, if those three guys are being occupied by

861
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: two big fellas, then I have one on ones with

862
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: my dns.

863
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 6: That's why Coach Zimmer is making these moves and bringing

864
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 6: in these proven veterans. He's like, I don't have time

865
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 6: to wait. I'm on a one year contract. No, I

866
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,720
Speaker 6: don't have time to wait on your first rounder.

867
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

868
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 6: I love you, I love your development. You're coming along,

869
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 6: not ready yet. Give me the big fellas that can

870
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 6: do this job. By the way, Oh yeah, Joseph, Yeah,

871
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 6: you played for me. You understand what was required. I

872
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 6: got you, coach, Kendrick, You've done this. Yeah, I got you, coach.

873
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 6: Let's go play ball.

874
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 5: It's the end verse of Jonathan Hankins and Mozzie Smith.

875
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 5: I was just about the Hanks was the start and

876
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,720
Speaker 5: Mazzi was rotational. Now Mozzi is the starter in Linvall

877
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 5: will rotate.

878
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 3: And and Phillips has some flax there too, because Joseph

879
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 3: and Phillips can both play.

880
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 7: The one and the three.

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Speaker 3: Joseph is more of a one while his Phillips is

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Speaker 3: more of a three, but they can both interchange back

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Speaker 3: and forth. One of the most underrated losses of the

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Speaker 3: was a hurt for this team, and you knew it

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Speaker 3: immediately when it did they let him go or he

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Speaker 3: chose He chose eight and dirty. It makes Seattle defense

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Speaker 7: I'm going to clip that just for like that was awesome.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you've upgraded in the veteran defensive tackle

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Speaker 3: department because you had you had Jonathan Hankins.

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Speaker 4: Now you have two guys and a more experienced Mazzie.

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Speaker 3: I feel much much, much, much much better about this

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Speaker 3: defensive tackle you got, young fell exactly. Yeah, justin Rodgers look,

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Speaker 3: Jackson's look good. I mean there's things that you can

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Speaker 3: you can take from that group and say they're moving

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Speaker 1: All right, when we come back, a couple of quick transactions.

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Speaker 4: Can I do it on the other side of the break.

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Speaker 3: Let's do it on the other side of the break,

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Speaker 3: because we've got some transactions to talk about. We've got

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Speaker 7: All right, we've got to talk about cuts, quick transaction.

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Speaker 7: Let's talk transactions.

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Speaker 5: First, Cowboys waived both Eric Scott and safety Julius Wood

958
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Speaker 5: this week part of their cutdowns.

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Speaker 1: Sometime both been claimed.

960
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Speaker 5: Eric Scott to the Chiefs, So the Chiefs are doing

961
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Speaker 5: some shopping in the Cowboys cupboard. Julius Wood to the

962
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Speaker 5: Tennessee Titans. Pick and Wood was one that they really

963
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Speaker 5: were hoping would clear so he could get to the press.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't coming back. Man.

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Speaker 6: I told you about Woods as soon as we got

966
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Speaker 6: to camp. I'm like that three three nice you were.

967
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Speaker 6: You were on him, very nice?

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Speaker 1: Take it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and he only made plays in the preseason, you know, Yeah,

970
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Speaker 8: no big deal.

971
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Speaker 1: No, Cowboys were like good. But not to be fair though,

972
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Speaker 1: I mean it's for his game.

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Speaker 5: Who who on the active roster would you have sacrificed

974
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Speaker 5: to carry five guy?

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Speaker 6: He's a guy that you would love to have, see

976
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Speaker 6: what I mean, he's a big safety man.

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Speaker 10: He is.

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Speaker 3: I would have to dig into the like the running

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Speaker 3: back cupboard, and maybe Deuce Van doesn't make this.

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Speaker 7: Team instead of that Wood doesn't me They weren't going

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Speaker 7: to Turkey.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't job. They weren't going to do something like that.

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Speaker 4: So well thirty three now what was that?

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Speaker 1: Do I mean?

985
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Speaker 4: Cook gets thirty three? Wo I'm gonna make roster.

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Speaker 5: I was going to say, let's just let's just focus

987
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Speaker 5: on cook getting to the practice squad and getting before

988
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Speaker 5: we get into arguing which number he should have, just

989
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Speaker 5: get him.

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Speaker 1: In cooking, going on. All right, well, there's some more

991
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Speaker 1: cooking cooks in the kitchen.

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Speaker 16: Did you see Kansas City cut a former cowboy and

993
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Speaker 16: then picked a cowboy up right?

994
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Well we also we didn't talk about the fact that,

996
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Speaker 5: and it's not made official yet, but Peyton Hendershot, he's traded,

997
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Speaker 5: traded to the chief You talk about it for a

998
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Speaker 5: late conditional round, late round, conditional kick. Cowboys were going

999
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Speaker 5: to wave Peyton Hendershot, but they found a trade partner

1000
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Speaker 5: before they did that, And I think that's just that's finesse.

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Speaker 5: That's something that so many Cowboys fans have voiced so

1002
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Speaker 5: much angst about this front office over the past several seasons.

1003
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Speaker 5: Why just wave a guy and not find a trade partner.

1004
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Speaker 1: Well, here you go.

1005
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Speaker 5: They found a trade partner in the Kansas City Chiefs,

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Speaker 5: Peyton Hendershot, who didn't ever really have a shot at

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Speaker 5: making this roster once they signed Brevin span Ford, and

1008
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Speaker 5: we talked about that big fellow John Stevens Junior came

1009
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Speaker 5: back from injury.

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Speaker 1: Both of those.

1011
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Speaker 5: Schoolmaker is not going anywhere this year there and of

1012
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Speaker 5: course Jake is Jake, So Cowboys are carrying four tight ends.

1013
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Speaker 5: And Peyton Hendershot dealt with injury again this training camp

1014
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Speaker 5: that cost him a lot of practices, didn't flash.

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Speaker 1: When he was he has a season.

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Speaker 6: The reality is he lost confidence after Schoolmaker got never

1017
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Speaker 6: regained it.

1018
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Speaker 1: That's the reality.

1019
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Speaker 5: Jake and Peyton went in two different directions when that

1020
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Speaker 5: school Maker Picky.

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Speaker 4: You remember hearing all.

1022
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Speaker 3: The storylines of those two guys and the rookies and

1023
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Speaker 3: just the way that they had these high ceilings.

1024
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Speaker 6: And Hendershott has a lot of talent. Yeah, he has

1025
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Speaker 6: a lot of talent. That has is the mental for

1026
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Speaker 6: him and if he can overcome that, and he had

1027
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Speaker 6: an amazing coach here. Obviously he was in a good

1028
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Speaker 6: room here. But if you were to leave this situation

1029
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Speaker 6: and go to any other situation to go learn from

1030
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Speaker 6: a veteran who had possessed the same skill sets as you,

1031
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Speaker 6: just thirty pounds heavier, then.

1032
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Speaker 1: But it's Kansas City Chiefs. Good luck to him, you know, girlfriends.

1033
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got three rings. There's a little bit of

1034
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Speaker 4: a difference between, but.

1035
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Speaker 1: It's sometimes it's a good reset.

1036
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 6: I went through a lot of injuries here with the

1037
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Speaker 6: Dallas Cowboys and my mind was not where I needed

1038
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Speaker 6: it to be confidence wise, And I left here and

1039
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 6: I was literally almost back to the competence level that

1040
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Speaker 6: I was coming out of college. You know, it's just

1041
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 6: just new environment, new setting, no preconceived notions on you. Like,

1042
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Speaker 6: it's just it's sometimes it just it can be refreshing

1043
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 6: to be in a new space. So I'm hoping that

1044
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Speaker 6: that's the case for him, And good job to the

1045
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Speaker 6: Cowboys to getting something for him.

1046
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Speaker 3: Now here's here's the conditions for the seventh round pick,

1047
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Speaker 3: by the way, So they receive a seventh round pick

1048
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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty six, right seventh round pick twenty twenty

1049
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 3: six hinder shot on the fifty three man roster or

1050
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Speaker 3: for five games this season, or if he's on the

1051
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Speaker 3: forty six man game day roster for three games.

1052
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Speaker 7: So he's got to be active on game day.

1053
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Speaker 8: And if either requirement is not met, we do not

1054
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Speaker 8: get that pick.

1055
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Speaker 4: No, don't getting well, but you're him anyway.

1056
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, It's like what Isaiah said though, and I've said

1057
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Speaker 5: this a lot of times before, when it comes to

1058
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Speaker 5: pick Hindershot again, when the Luke Schoolmaker card got turned in,

1059
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 5: it was only one way to go, oh, two ways

1060
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 5: to go, and you got to choose your path. Jake

1061
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 5: Ferguson took it as I'm going to you know, it's competition,

1062
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 5: going to level up, and I'm going to mentor this kid.

1063
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 5: At the same time, Peyton Hindershot dropped his helmet and

1064
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 5: kind of went into winter the hole, right, and he

1065
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 5: never snapped out of that. And then he got injured

1066
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 5: last year and that kind of stole more of his momentum.

1067
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,399
Speaker 5: And then he heard the front office, you know, giving

1068
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 5: so much praise to John Stevens Junior, even after the

1069
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 5: kid towards a cl and hadn't played in the regular

1070
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 5: season game, basically saying, yeah, he would have made the

1071
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,760
Speaker 5: roster and then and then he has a high priority

1072
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 5: undrafted free agent. So hopefully Peyton Hindershot uses this as

1073
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 5: a reset to snap out of that. And also, Frank

1074
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,720
Speaker 5: gorg Junior just re signed to the practice squad for Buffalo,

1075
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Speaker 5: So dream is dead.

1076
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 4: Yeah that one.

1077
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 3: So Dante, Yeah, all right, I'm just gonna go down

1078
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 3: the list of cuts. These are the guys that are

1079
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 3: no longer with the Cowboys. Of course, a lot of

1080
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 3: these guys will return to the practice squad as early

1081
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 3: as when today, Pat, like.

1082
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: What quickly, as early as forty nine minutes ago.

1083
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 5: So teams can begin building their practice squad effective noon

1084
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 5: today Eastern time, which was the moment we started this show.

1085
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 3: So, and if we should go now, if we have

1086
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 3: anything in the next ten minutes out of these names, Pat,

1087
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Speaker 3: we'll let us know. Uh, stop me if there's somebody

1088
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 3: that you want to talk about out of this list, So,

1089
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 3: Josh Baul, Deontay Burnett, wide receiver, cornerback, Josh Butler, center,

1090
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 3: Cole Cabral running backs, new Connor Malie Davis also a

1091
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 3: running back.

1092
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 11: Denzel Daxton defensive tackle was cut.

1093
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Speaker 1: You perked up there?

1094
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 4: You want to talk about him at all or not

1095
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 4: like him? I don't think we've seen the last of dates.

1096
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 3: Josh de Berry defensive back, David Dirt and wide receiver,

1097
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 3: Princeton Fant tight end.

1098
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that's a big one. Please get him back one. Okay,

1099
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: that was a tough cut for me when I was

1100
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 1: doing my fifty three because he's so versatile. Yeah, he's especially,

1101
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: he's a specially Go ahead, well.

1102
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 8: This next one is going to be tough for you

1103
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 8: and tough for all of us. Basically, go ahead, Villiami Fojoco.

1104
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 8: Oh no, never mind, Oh wow, Royce Freeman. The next one,

1105
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 8: Kemon Hall, that one that's tough. I had to pick six.

1106
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 11: Yeah, he played well and they played practices.

1107
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 3: He played well in the preseason. But they It goes

1108
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 3: back to what we were just talking about. Whenever it

1109
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 3: came to Eric Scott Junior and Julius Wood. Who are

1110
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 3: you in the middle of this secondary? Who are you

1111
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 3: cutting to make room for that guy? To make room

1112
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 3: for kem On Hall. I don't know if there was

1113
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 3: just a that's the problem. I don't think there's a

1114
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 3: guy there that we could have done in that regard.

1115
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 3: All right, So keem On Hall, Kelvin Harmon, Darius Harris,

1116
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 3: Willie Harvey.

1117
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 4: That's a tough that's tough.

1118
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: Do you know how well, Yes, he's going to be

1119
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 1: a really good player, Kelvin Harmon.

1120
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 6: I like Harmon. I like what I saw from him.

1121
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 6: He's young, he's he needs a lot more reps. But

1122
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:49,280
Speaker 6: I think Billy Johnson and proper preseason.

1123
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: I like how he fights for the ball.

1124
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,760
Speaker 3: Alec Haller tight end, a defensive tackle, tackle, Albert Huggins,

1125
00:50:55,880 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 3: wide receiver, Cam Johnson, defensive end Darrell Johnson. Uh, the

1126
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 3: back of Montie Johnson, linebacker Jason Johnson, wide receiver Tyron Johnson.

1127
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 3: I mean basically anybody with an the last name Johnson

1128
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 3: not named Buddy.

1129
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 1: Yeah done.

1130
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 11: Karl Lawson defensive end.

1131
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 1: Is that a shock to you. No, we were talking

1132
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 1: about that the other day.

1133
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 8: That's the ramp up, right.

1134
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 4: I just didn't have it.

1135
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: It just went from when I saw in the game.

1136
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: It just yeah, not ready, Nope, okay.

1137
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 13: Uh.

1138
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 3: Wide receiver Racy McMath, linebacker Brock Mogenson, Jalen Cropper at

1139
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 3: wide receiver al Quadeen Muhammad.

1140
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: He was placed on an injured he's on a reserve suspend.

1141
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 5: That's what it was, Okay, So he didn't have to

1142
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 5: worry about to move for him until after week one

1143
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 5: one game.

1144
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: Still I like him, Yeah, I like him. You were

1145
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 1: talking about him in the preseason game.

1146
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 15: I like him.

1147
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1148
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 3: Running back Nathaniel Pete, defensive tackle Justin Rodgers Rogers that stuff.

1149
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 8: That's a seventh round pick. In the twenty twenty four I.

1150
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: Had him on my fifty three. That was rough for me.

1151
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: I think he'll come back, believe, I think absolutely hope.

1152
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 1: I believe claimed he's not claimed.

1153
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:05,240
Speaker 5: So so these I'm looking at the wire, the wire,

1154
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 5: looking at the wire, and these are all of those

1155
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 5: that were claimed by the NFL deadline of noon Eastern

1156
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 5: time today, right, So that means the latest round of

1157
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 5: waiver wires has been cleared.

1158
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: So now these guys are free to sign.

1159
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 5: So the Cowboys on we lost two guys, and Eric Scott,

1160
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 5: Julius Woods, everybody else we're talking about sign is fair game.

1161
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 3: There's Dakota Shepley center, Nathan Thomas tackle, he's out for

1162
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 3: the season. Uh, Nick Vigil linebacker, Damian Wilson linebacker and

1163
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 3: defensive back.

1164
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 1: I like Damian Wilson too, I like.

1165
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 3: I like this.

1166
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 8: Sorry, Nathan Thomas is only an injured reserve not.

1167
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: Why are yeah?

1168
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:48,800
Speaker 6: I like the entire preseason linebacker room, Damian Wilson, Buddy Johnson,

1169
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:49,800
Speaker 6: Willie Harvey.

1170
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: I like all those guys he had. Vigil was was

1171
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 1: okay to me, and he didn't pop to me. On

1172
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: special teams. He's a special teamer.

1173
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,439
Speaker 8: Mogenson too, showed flashes, he had a pickggs.

1174
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't show up for me too much either.

1175
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 6: I like those three those Wilson, Buddy Johnson, Harley Harvey,

1176
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,720
Speaker 6: those three to me, I like, I like Race Freeman.

1177
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: I do, I just I just do.

1178
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 6: I think he's consistent. I think you know what you're

1179
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 6: going to get out of him, and I think he's

1180
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 6: a heck of an asset on special teams.

1181
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: So Frank gorg Junior out.

1182
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would like Race Freeman to still bear back then,

1183
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 6: and then again, if you're bringing back, if you're bringing

1184
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 6: Dovin Cookan on the practice squad, then where's the room

1185
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 6: for that. Yeah, there's a room for that, right because

1186
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 6: those guys are they're pretty much the same back except

1187
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 6: for one does special teams. That's why I was surprised.

1188
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 6: We had the conversation on Monday about are you going

1189
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,280
Speaker 6: to keep Race Freeman? Are you going to keep upon?

1190
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,399
Speaker 1: So here's a question. Not to interrupt, here's a question.

1191
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 5: So with the Cowboys, because Denzel Dexon wasn't claimed either,

1192
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 5: so he can be there plus one. So now they

1193
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 5: can carry seventeen because they get the I P P

1194
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 5: exemption for him, which for those that don't know International

1195
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 5: Pathway program, same thing that they did for Isaac ellacom Bahamas.

1196
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 5: But it's that's a conversation because it took me a

1197
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 5: while to try to wrap my head around stop it, yeah, okay,

1198
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 5: stop it loophole.

1199
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: You can't say that loophole.

1200
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 4: But Hamas is a country, Isaiah.

1201
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: No.

1202
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 5: He's saying is like, how does he qualify for IPP

1203
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 5: And he's right, but he does, so they're.

1204
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 6: Going with that.

1205
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 3: So my plan, Mike McDaniels, for those who don't know,

1206
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,320
Speaker 3: you're still look at the picture of McDaniels in like

1207
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 3: twenty twenty compared to now, compared.

1208
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:28,760
Speaker 1: To now, bro we did that like good body football.

1209
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: He looks he looks like Mark Anthony. He took it.

1210
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 3: He was he started started his coaching career as like

1211
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 3: the prey generic question or a character on like GTA,

1212
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 3: and then by the end of it, whenever you have

1213
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 3: millions and millions and millions of dollars in that video

1214
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,240
Speaker 3: game and you get to buy all the new stuff, that's.

1215
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:49,320
Speaker 7: What Mike McDaniels looks like.

1216
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: You got now we were not at the time.

1217
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 5: I'm want to ask I want to get your guys opinion,

1218
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 5: So you can carry seventeen because you get the plus

1219
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 5: one from the decks. How many running backs are you carrying?

1220
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 5: Considering you get that extra on the practice squad, I'd

1221
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 5: be fine carrying.

1222
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 6: Three, three on the practice, three on the press two

1223
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 6: because you think about it, you have three on the

1224
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,240
Speaker 6: active roster plus a fullback.

1225
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got four already. Basically that's fair. Right, So

1226
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 1: if I was going to do that, I feel like

1227
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: one so one what is a gift?

1228
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 6: So to your point, I would bring back Fan because

1229
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 6: I'm bringing back I'm bringing him back.

1230
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: I want him anyways. But he's your tight end slash fullback. Okay,

1231
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: he did do it.

1232
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 6: So if something was to ever happened with lip right,

1233
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 6: not only are you gaining a tight end, you're gaining

1234
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 6: a fullback and you're gaining a core special teamers.

1235
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 4: I'd have two guys.

1236
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 7: I'd have Dalvin Cook if if he's indeed going to

1237
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 7: be signed.

1238
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 5: And then I can't confirm he will be signed in

1239
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 5: convert got that text while we were having that exchange thing.

1240
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: It's like bring that's like it's definitely news broken.

1241
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 6: The reason like for me, like Dalvin Cook. If he

1242
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 6: can contribute the way that he used to, then awesome.

1243
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 6: But I mean, what are you realistically expecting? See, this

1244
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 6: is maybe eight carries a game, So then why not

1245
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 6: on a heavy workload? So then why not use the

1246
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 6: extra the free spot because I'm looking for guys that

1247
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 6: you're gonna give you flex like I'm looking for flex,

1248
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,240
Speaker 6: Like if you're gonna have a running back by committee,

1249
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 6: give me a running back like Royce Freeman, who's gonna

1250
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 6: give me five carries where I need to get down

1251
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:11,720
Speaker 6: there on the gold line right to go downhill?

1252
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 1: And then guess what he's on every special team? Did

1253
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: you see enough from Nathaniel Pete? Like I like you, No, No,

1254
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: I know, I hear you.

1255
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 6: But if you're gonna do this committee, I'm asking, like,

1256
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 6: I'm just I did not see enough by him. But

1257
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 6: the reason why I'm sitting on the table for a

1258
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 6: Freeman is because of the versatility. If I'm gonna be sharing,

1259
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 6: if you say you have twenty carries in twenty five

1260
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 6: carries in the game with you you have three running backs, where.

1261
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: Are you going what fifteen ten or not even right

1262
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 1: fifteen eight? You know what I'm saying.

1263
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 6: So you're rotating those guys through that nobody's getting a

1264
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 6: heavy workload. So what else am I getting from you

1265
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:43,720
Speaker 6: being on the roster today?

1266
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 8: Special teams?

1267
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 6: Exactly? This is not playing special teams. He's gonna play

1268
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 6: a little bit of special teams. Right, I made a

1269
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 6: personal protector. Maybe that's about it.

1270
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 3: I'm in the same boat, and I wasn't necessarily on

1271
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 3: the wish for signing and have been. The One thing

1272
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 3: with Dalvin Cooks specifically is that he does have that upside.

1273
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 3: He has a veteran ability to share within the room

1274
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,919
Speaker 3: and within the locker room. I just want to try

1275
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 3: it at this point. If you're signing him to the

1276
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 3: active roster, then that's different. I don't want to take

1277
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 3: up a roster spot from first Dalvin cook But with

1278
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 3: him being on the practice squad, there's literally no idea.

1279
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 6: I just want people to understand when you have a

1280
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 6: running back by commit, typically you have a two headed monster.

1281
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: We hear that term all the time. You have a

1282
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: starter and you have a second, you have a second

1283
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: second guy.

1284
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 6: Right, So if you had a like old school Zeke

1285
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 6: and Tony Pollard, neither one of them were going to

1286
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 6: touch a special team unless it was that kick return.

1287
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,919
Speaker 6: They're not touching kick return. I have two running backs

1288
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 6: that I know are not going to touch special teams. Now,

1289
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 6: you cannot afford to have three running backs on an

1290
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,959
Speaker 6: active day roster and that aren't touching special teams.

1291
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: You can't afford that.

1292
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 4: I can't do it.

1293
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: I agree. I'm with you both, and no, just Deduce

1294
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: Douce can only return for you right now. That's that's

1295
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 1: all he can do. And you have a pro bowler

1296
00:57:59,200 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: at red at a return.

1297
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 6: Yes, everybody's gonna say what a kick off return has

1298
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 6: two returners, Yeah, but the other one's gonna be.

1299
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 5: Blocking and one has to be blocking, which is which

1300
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 5: is why when that new rule came out, one of

1301
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 5: the first things we talked about on talking out dren

1302
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 5: ox Nor was the.

1303
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 1: Added value that gives ric o'dowdele. Yeah.

1304
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 5: And and now when you look at how the depth,

1305
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 5: when you look at how the shakes out, he you're

1306
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 5: going to see Rico Dawdle back there you will.

1307
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 3: I think so too. I think you'll see him a

1308
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 3: little bit. We talked about it a little bit last night.

1309
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 3: That'll be another conversation for another episode though. Whenever it

1310
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 3: comes to Douce Vaughn and his role on this team.

1311
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 3: If he's making a fifty three man roster, spot you

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Speaker 3: a lot. There better be a plan with Deuce Vaughan

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Speaker 3: and what he's doing and what he's bringing. I'm glad

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Speaker 3: he made it because he is a great guy, love

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Speaker 3: his dad, and the whole story behind it is incredible.

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Speaker 3: But at some point you got to contribute if you're

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Speaker 3: gonna be on the fifty three man.

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Speaker 8: Acts, as long as it's behind this offensive line. I

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Speaker 8: don't want to see him behind backups, you know what

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Speaker 8: I mean?

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Speaker 5: Just running behind Cooper Baby, Get him on the field.

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Speaker 5: Know that those two guys they kind of know each other.

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Speaker 5: They kind of know each other.

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Speaker 1: He's done pretty well behind Take the minute, give me

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Speaker 1: the b.

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Speaker 3: Before we get out of here. Before we get out

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Speaker 3: of here, one of shameless plug Isaiah. This weekend, you're

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Speaker 3: making the trip up to Canton, Ohio.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: What are you doing up in Canton.

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Speaker 6: I'll be working with NFL Network Steve Wis, Bucky Brooks

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Speaker 6: will be calling the Black College Hall of Fame game.

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Speaker 6: It's gonna be Virginia State versus Benedictte Benedette.

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Speaker 1: What day Tom Sunday. How do I don't even don't

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Speaker 1: even know what time.

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Speaker 3: I think it's like a one pmk something like that,

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Speaker 3: Sunday afternoon Sunday. Check your local listings, check your local lists.

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Speaker 1: We'll be on there.

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Speaker 6: It's nationally national broadcast, so that anything on NFL network

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Speaker 6: that day, guys up up in the way.

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Speaker 7: And then uh, and then we've got a little game coming.

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Speaker 1: Up this weekend. That's a dope pat As, thanks man.

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Speaker 4: Yes, how about that?

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Speaker 3: Uh, Waburger gave Jerry Jones Classic, the Waburger Jerry Jones Classic.

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Speaker 3: I'll be on the call with heck Ma Harrison who's

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Speaker 3: on Players Lounge. Nick Harris will be on the sideline

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Speaker 3: and we're actually going.

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Speaker 1: To be before you on NFL Network.

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Speaker 5: Nice, We're gonna We're gonna saying we're gonna be They're

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Speaker 5: Talking Cowboys podcast is going to be nationally televised this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Different ways take that boys. There junior varsity and this

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Speaker 1: is varsity.

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Speaker 16: Uh.

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Speaker 3: North Crowley Lancaster two of the best high school teams

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Speaker 3: in the country. North Crowley talked to their coach Monday.

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Speaker 3: He said they have twenty four Division one offered kids.

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Speaker 3: Twenty four they're loaded and their quarterback committed to the

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Speaker 3: beautiful University of North Texas.

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Speaker 4: Baby do mean green.

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Speaker 3: So we've got a lot going on this weekend. Be

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Speaker 3: sure to cure up, offered Isaiah. Probably he may.

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Speaker 4: They may still eat through forty touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: Last because Carson's on the way out. We need we

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Speaker 1: need some qbs.

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Speaker 3: Follow Voice of the Star on Twitter, Patrick nocy Walker

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Speaker 3: for everything in terms of Cowboys cuts, Josh W. Rodriguez

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Speaker 3: on Twitter as well, and then I am stand back.

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Speaker 4: I am stand back.

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Speaker 3: That's gonna do it for us today on Talking Cowboys

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Speaker 3: for Chris Beam in the back, Patrick, Josh, and Isaiah'm Kyle,

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Speaker 3: you women saying so long From the Star on Frisco.

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Speaker 3: We'll see you on Tuesday for some regular season action.

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Speaker 2: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and

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