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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.

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Speaker 2: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your

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Speaker 2: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey

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Speaker 2: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and

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Speaker 2: Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the

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Speaker 2: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in

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Speaker 2: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or

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Speaker 2: scripted as well.

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Speaker 1: So listen. So guys, we're gonna recap Potomac.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about Candy and Todds divorced update. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna talk about Quad having a twoful conversation about regretting

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Speaker 2: not freecing her eggs. But first thing first, we have

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Speaker 2: to get into Bell Collective is back every Friday and

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Speaker 2: the Clock Selling Central on the Oprah Winfrey net work.

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Speaker 2: That's right, Bill Collective is back. First thing first, we

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Speaker 2: have to get into Latsha and Glenn. So to update

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Speaker 2: everybody what happened last season. Latsia found out that Glenn

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Speaker 2: was in another woman's DMS.

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Speaker 1: He said it was friendly.

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Speaker 2: They decided to, you know, deal with it, be a

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Speaker 2: united front. This season openers showed that Latishia felt that

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Speaker 2: you know what we saw last year after reunion last

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Speaker 2: season after reunion was they were together and she is

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Speaker 2: now questioning whether or not she should stay in this marriage.

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Speaker 1: Dustin, what were.

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Speaker 2: Your thoughts on the latest between Latitia and Glenn.

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Speaker 3: I thought that what they were arguing about in the

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Speaker 3: therapy session cannot possibly be what they really beefed out about.

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Speaker 3: That's what I thought, because we met Leticia Pearson on

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Speaker 3: this show right hosting her Women's Brunch in Mississippi. I

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Speaker 3: believe it was called Women's Brunch Mississippi. She has presented

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Speaker 3: herself to the audience of that show as deeply having

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Speaker 3: an entrepreneurial spirit and at that being something that's important

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Speaker 3: to her and she's passionate about. They had conversation after

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Speaker 3: conversation in the offices of Latisia Pearson Enterprises, where she

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Speaker 3: has filmed multiple times. So the idea of Latisia Pearson

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Speaker 3: being a working woman and prioritizing her career is not

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Speaker 3: foreign to the audience of that show, and we ain't

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Speaker 3: married to her, so it definitely shouldn't be foreign to

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Speaker 3: Glenn Glendale. When you fuck up, they call him Glendale.

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Speaker 3: So we don't call them Glendale for the second this conversation.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, man, I'm like, it's got to be something deeper.

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Speaker 3: It's got to be more than this, because that, to

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Speaker 3: me was a weak swipe all her she trying to

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Speaker 3: be independent, or she gonna focus on herself and not

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Speaker 3: me and build herself up to get out of here.

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Speaker 3: I just didn't think it was a strong argument or

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Speaker 3: such an axe and or you know, for them to

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Speaker 3: grind such a fork in the role for them, I

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Speaker 3: just didn't see it being a strong issue.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know what they lying, that's all.

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Speaker 3: And I love them, you know how much I love

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Speaker 3: the Bells in general, the whole cast, and I specifically

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Speaker 3: love Lets and Glenn being together.

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Speaker 4: I think they love the hell out of their son.

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Speaker 3: You see, they got on down from that awful therapy session,

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Speaker 3: which don't even get me started on that, but they

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Speaker 3: got on down from there because they had to what

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Speaker 3: go get Josh their parents first, And I love seeing

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Speaker 3: that they son is always well adjusted and happy, and

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So I want their family

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Speaker 3: unit to work. But them niggas was lying on that couch.

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Speaker 3: It's more, there's more to the situation in that.

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Speaker 4: That's all Claudia.

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Speaker 5: I saw it as a real thing because I know

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Speaker 5: a lot of girls that are going through this and

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Speaker 5: I've been through before. When a man like that's the

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Speaker 5: last kind of like grasp back controlling the woman.

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Speaker 6: And if you know you're out there being.

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Speaker 5: Foul, right and uh like you being foul and your

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Speaker 5: woman has some actual things that can she can call

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Speaker 5: you out on, you got to reach for something else,

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Speaker 5: like well, you know you work too much. Any man,

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Speaker 5: like you said, Carlos, like you said, dustin't he got

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Speaker 5: with an entrepreneur. He got with someone that was successful.

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Speaker 5: Don't get with someone and try to humble them. When

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Speaker 5: you're in the doghouse. You can like even the late

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Speaker 5: the playing field and you know, get your little aha moment.

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Speaker 4: No, I just said that. I just fucking said that.

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Speaker 3: That Glenn said that she thought she was setting herself

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Speaker 3: up to leave him. I literally just said that, So

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Speaker 3: what you mean, No, yes.

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Speaker 6: Let Dustin cook, but comes go ahead?

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Speaker 4: Doesn't like what you're listening to anyway?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Like no, it's okay.

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Speaker 5: Losing control and this is a trigger definitely for me,

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Speaker 5: Like I'm like, oh, I can I when I saw that.

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Speaker 5: I was like, oh, that to me is I can't

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Speaker 5: get you with my actions because I'm fucking up lately, right,

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Speaker 5: So let me make something else. Let me make it

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Speaker 5: about like, now I have an issue with your career.

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Speaker 6: You're not home enough.

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Speaker 5: No, you don't like her being financially independent, which you

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Speaker 5: can bounce on you. A lot of them, not a lot,

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Speaker 5: but there are some men that like their women home barefoot, pregnant,

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Speaker 5: need them and they can't walk away. Look at the

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Speaker 5: administration what they're trying to do right now. They're trying

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Speaker 5: to remove a lot of.

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Speaker 6: Professional positions that women lead in.

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Speaker 5: So it's like, you know, they trying to like just

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Speaker 5: get us back out of the workforce and home.

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Speaker 6: Why is that? Low value? Men? Low self esteem?

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Speaker 5: Men, Men that like they can't get you another way,

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Speaker 5: so they want to just like bring your ass down.

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Speaker 5: That he wants to humble her, that's humbling because he

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Speaker 5: was in the doghouse last season. That's the humbling thing.

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Speaker 5: And I think she needs to run. I think that's

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Speaker 5: a major red. Like your partners should want you to

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Speaker 5: flourish and make a whole bunch of money, not be

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Speaker 5: scared that if you make a lot be about to

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I didn't like it at all.

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Speaker 4: Blue.

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Speaker 7: There used to be this test that they would do

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Speaker 7: if you won the lottery right now and one ten

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Speaker 7: million dollars, would you still be with this person? I

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Speaker 7: think letting those the answer.

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Speaker 7: There are men who want to diminish you because they

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Speaker 7: like you, because you're powerful, But they also like thinking

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Speaker 7: that they can be the one person to tame you.

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Speaker 7: And then five ten years go by and you used

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Speaker 7: for being the very person that they chased. And I

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Speaker 7: think there's some hubrists involved, there's some egos, there's some

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Speaker 7: weaponized incompetence. I do not like an overtly friendly grown

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Speaker 7: god dam much, why can't they all see the back

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Speaker 7: man who's a little bit unfriendly, right, like he's kind

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Speaker 7: of me my mama in our ecosystem. But strangers, second

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Speaker 7: guests walking up to him. So even the DM thing,

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Speaker 7: you just needed to look back because you wanted to

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Speaker 7: nobody on social media who knows who you are to

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Speaker 7: but can't because you know that you're not better than her.

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Speaker 7: Which brings me to the point of people who compete

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Speaker 6: Oh my god, it's so wag.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Like he came off so small to me, and

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Speaker 7: that's what been one of those little miniatures where his

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Speaker 7: the Chipmunks. It was very small man behavior. I'm very

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Speaker 7: disappointed because you can tell that she's the kind of

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Speaker 7: person who is not just community oriented, but she's very

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Speaker 7: family oriented, you know what I mean. And to invest

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Speaker 7: this much time in someone, in building an ecosystem with them,

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Speaker 7: to find out that you've evolved and there's still where

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Speaker 7: you found them. That's that's devastating.

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Speaker 1: Ladies.

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Speaker 5: You cannot be with the man that gets mad if

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Speaker 5: you have a bigger chain than his it's okay, you know,

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Speaker 5: I mean like a.

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Speaker 1: Bigger chain.

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Speaker 7: Something else.

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Speaker 1: Be happy.

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Speaker 7: He shows chain as the analogy. She could have said.

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Speaker 5: Something mad about it, or you want to get away

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Speaker 5: with that chain upstage me, shut up, step of diamonds, that.

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Speaker 7: Step your diamonds of Claudia. Who did you spend the

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Speaker 7: weekend with Claudia?

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Speaker 6: This is like I got triggered for some other ship

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Speaker 6: this weekend. Two.

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Speaker 2: The one thing I didn't want to ask all this

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Speaker 2: terms of how people are viewing Todd right.

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Speaker 1: In the in the in the social media realm unemployed.

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Speaker 7: You said what I thought, the people look at him

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Speaker 7: like he's an unemployed hater right now, living people.

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Speaker 2: The things that people are saying is they they're they're wondering,

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Speaker 1: Right? So in this case you have Glenn. When Glenn.

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Speaker 1: The difference between Tod and Glenn is this. When Glenn

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Speaker 2: A real housewife. She did not work, and she did

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Speaker 1: And what you'll see this season is there's.

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Speaker 2: A lot of revelations that comes out this season on

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Speaker 2: Felt Collective every Friday at a clock com own, where

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Speaker 2: Leatitia is discovering a lot of.

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Speaker 1: Plans that Glenn made that she didn't know about. Right.

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Speaker 2: Oh So on the flip side, you have Candy and Todd,

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Speaker 2: and that situation is different where Todd entered the relationship

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Speaker 2: and marriage where Candy obviously was the breadwinner. But when

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Speaker 2: people are comparing Glenn and Todd, what they're saying is,

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Speaker 2: are these men who don't want to see their women

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Speaker 2: excel further because they are afraid of losing mout?

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Speaker 1: Is that something you think to dustin.

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Speaker 4: Glenn?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think in Glenn's case, for sure, Candy and

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Speaker 3: Todd that's a little bit of a different case study

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Speaker 3: because Candy was rich when they got married, and so

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Speaker 3: it's just like as you illustrated with the origin story

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Speaker 3: to Glenn and Leticia's relationship, it's.

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Speaker 4: A little bit different.

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Speaker 3: So it's a little misalignant, it's misaligned comparatively to me.

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Speaker 3: But in Glenn and Latitia's case, he literally said in

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Speaker 3: his confessional scene that he feared that she was going

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Speaker 3: to set herself up financially to take off from him

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Speaker 3: and leave him, and he expressed that he didn't want

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Speaker 3: that to happen. He said that that's just how he

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Speaker 3: wasn't saying it was true, but that's just how he felt, which.

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Speaker 4: I thought was honest.

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Speaker 3: And I thought that Glenn also expressed that he wanted

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Speaker 3: his marriage to remain intact, and he was vocal about that,

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Speaker 3: which he's been all even with the hiccups and the

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Speaker 3: mistakes that he's made, He's always said he wants them

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Speaker 4: So it's a little bit different to me.

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Speaker 3: I don't really think Glenn and Laticia's marriage is a

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Speaker 6: The old school way of like relationships.

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Speaker 6: He's the only that makes you great. But like they'll.

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Speaker 6: The same thing like Blue said, that's what attracted you.

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Speaker 5: Like my problem is like, don't go chasing a mermaid

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Speaker 6: About them later and it happens.

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Speaker 5: And when you do that, it's obnoxious because don't try

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Speaker 7: Yeah, make sure that you're dealing with someone who doesn't

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Speaker 7: Right also to and I wasn't joking earlier. Men who

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Speaker 3: And this is where I this is what I take

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Speaker 4: They're bitch assness right there. That's new school shit.

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Speaker 3: So you can't subscribe to that right and think that

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's cool. If you want to be

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Speaker 3: because she's the shit. That's the most appropriate way I

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Speaker 5: People want the good parts of the thing that they

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Speaker 6: Mom, you do the house, so yeah, can you can you?

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Speaker 6: Can you cook up my stereo? Can you can you

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Speaker 5: You say you want a traditional relationship, but you don't

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Speaker 6: Then you want me to do all the traditional things

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Speaker 5: You can't sit there and say you're traditional women. You

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Speaker 3: So you know, you know why that's not working on

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Speaker 4: Let's just have the conversation all that antiquated ads.

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Speaker 3: I'm a tradition of this. I'm a tradition of that.

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Speaker 4: We're not churning butter. We're not. You know, we're not

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Speaker 6: But I'm just saying things.

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Speaker 4: I'll just put it right there.

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Speaker 5: I just man need to go to war and now

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Speaker 5: that make TikTok videos doing stuff like.

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Speaker 4: This or do all that.

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Speaker 3: Do all that, though right, get your facial, get your

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Speaker 3: up in the ways that are critically important to sustain

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Speaker 3: a household.

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Speaker 4: I don't care about your habits.

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Speaker 3: I don't care about you doing that stuff that people

443
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Speaker 3: can put in the feminine power and none of that shit.

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Speaker 4: How are you showing up fundamentally? Okay?

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Speaker 3: How are you responsible? Are you taking care of the responsibilities.

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Speaker 3: That's the shit that we need to focus on as

447
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Speaker 3: opposed to the other lenses that we're looking at things through.

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Speaker 4: That's all.

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Speaker 2: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos Kings.

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Speaker 1: Get back into the show.

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Speaker 2: I love I love this conversation. One thing I will say,

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Speaker 2: I'll use an example. I did an interview with Mona

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Speaker 2: Scott Young last year, and I spoke to Mona about

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Speaker 2: her marriage she's married to this wonderful man named Sean Young.

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Speaker 2: And I asked her a question about like, well, you know,

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Speaker 2: how does it feel to be the bread winner in

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Speaker 2: your relationship?

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Speaker 1: And she said, what do you mean by that?

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Speaker 2: And I said, well, you know you're the breadwinner and

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Speaker 2: she said, let me correct you, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: Everything we do we do together, Mona.

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Speaker 2: Me entertainment is just it's his company, just as it's mine.

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Speaker 2: And she said, we don't go off of this tradition.

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Speaker 2: She said, My husband and I had a conversation about

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Speaker 2: what's going to work for our marriage, and my husband

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Speaker 2: was the one who said, you go out there, you

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Speaker 2: do all that. I'm gonna help you, support you, and

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Speaker 2: I'm also going to help take care of these kids

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Speaker 2: because you're managing Missy, you're.

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Speaker 1: Doing the show blah boom.

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Speaker 2: And one thing she said to me, she hates when

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Speaker 2: people call her Mona Scott. She said, my name is

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Speaker 2: Mona Scott.

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Speaker 7: Young.

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Speaker 2: Respect my husband and she talks about how and if

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Speaker 2: you met Mona's husband.

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Speaker 1: Mona husband is like six foot six, he's extremely handsome.

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Speaker 1: He's a big dude.

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Speaker 2: And she marveled at the fact that in this relationship

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Speaker 2: where someone like me on the outside looking in can

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Speaker 2: just assume like, oh, well, you know you're the bread winner.

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Speaker 1: How does he feel.

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Speaker 2: She did a fantastic job at not only checking me

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Speaker 2: like she does, she did a fantastic job at explaining

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Speaker 2: to me that this marriage works because I don't enter

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Speaker 2: our relationship like I'm here and he's there.

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Speaker 1: She said, everything we do, he's just as equal a

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Speaker 1: part of it as I am.

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Speaker 2: And she said, I reject the notion that because I'm

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Speaker 2: the front facing individual in this relationship that my husband

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Speaker 2: is taking a back seat.

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Speaker 1: He's not. He's right there with me, if you guys

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Speaker 1: see him or not.

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Speaker 2: And I bring that up to say, I thought it

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Speaker 2: was so beautiful Formona to say that, because, like Claudia said,

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Speaker 2: it's easy to always say men, men, men, men, men, right,

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Speaker 2: and yet obviously a lot of it is about that.

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Speaker 2: But I do want to encourage women that if you

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Speaker 2: are in a situation that's similar, it would be nice

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Speaker 2: if you don't do this, if you can also find

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Speaker 2: ways in your marriage to make sure that your husband

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Speaker 2: does see you guys as equal where he does feel

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Speaker 2: like you guys are a team, where where he may

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Speaker 2: not feel like you're doing everything and he has no

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Speaker 2: say cause let's have a real conversation, right. As somebody

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Speaker 2: who grew up producing housewives, I'm not gonna name names,

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Speaker 2: but what I will say is the reason why a

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Speaker 2: lot of housewives are divorced is because they were stay

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Speaker 2: at home mom and then all of a sudden they

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Speaker 2: did have this fame. And yes, the large percentage of

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Speaker 2: a divorce is because the husband felt not seen. However,

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Speaker 2: I have witness with my own eyes how some women,

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Speaker 2: not all, but some women do treat their men differently

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Speaker 2: once they get rid of ye and the man who

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Speaker 2: you used to run things by, you do not have

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Speaker 2: a team and when and you don't, you don't pillo

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Speaker 2: talk anymore, and you don't include him, and it is

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Speaker 2: confusing sometimes if the dynamic was different, right, And that's

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Speaker 2: why I encourage everybody. The biggest mistake that marriages make

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Speaker 2: is that nobody wants to have a conversation about, Hey,

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Speaker 2: this dynamic has changed, let's talk about it.

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Speaker 7: I'm so happy you said that. And there's one bit

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Speaker 7: of nuance that I want to add because I think

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Speaker 7: that point is so perfect because so many women they

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Speaker 7: need to hear that message. I would dare to guess

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Speaker 7: that the reason why Mona felt so empowered to keep

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Speaker 7: him safe is because he keeps her safe. And what

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Speaker 7: ends up happening is in a lot of those relationships,

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Speaker 7: when the man was making the money, he was being

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Speaker 7: ego centric and wielding it, and when they switch places,

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Speaker 7: she mimics him. So when he was acting like, well,

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Speaker 7: I'm making the money, so you can only say but

533
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Speaker 7: so much when she switches places with him, she's like, well,

534
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Speaker 7: if you got to talk to me crazy for fifteen

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Speaker 7: years when you had the money, Now that I have money,

536
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Speaker 7: it's your turn, buddy, and it becomes very tit for tat,

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Speaker 7: And so I think a lot of those ball busting

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Speaker 7: women are often mimicking what the men were doing when

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Speaker 7: they were the one who had the money. And I

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Speaker 7: think what everybody has to do is whoever is making

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Speaker 7: the bread, right, whoever's making the bread, has to understand

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Speaker 7: is how do I keep my partner safe so that

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Speaker 7: when it's time for us to switch places because life

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Speaker 7: ebbs and flows them, mimicking me doesn't feel like an

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Speaker 7: assault because you were doing it. But now that I

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Speaker 7: got the coin, I'm acting just like you. Now I'm

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Speaker 7: a ball buster and you're being masculated. But my dignity

548
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Speaker 7: didn't matter when you made the money. And so I

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Speaker 7: think what we're realizing is when a man is in

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Speaker 7: a relationship, and we talk about men being leaderships and

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Speaker 7: old school women who want that kind of traditional relationship,

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Speaker 7: if a man is leading you in a way that

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Speaker 7: makes you feel safe when you're the one who has

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Speaker 7: to lead. You had a great example of what it

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Speaker 7: looks like because now you can give back what you

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Speaker 7: already received. But if he was in your face making

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Speaker 7: you feel small when he had the money, there's a

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Speaker 7: part of you subconsciously that's gonna want to do that

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Speaker 7: back when it's your turn.

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Speaker 6: Agreed, everybody has.

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Speaker 7: To be doing their job. I think it's a co

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Speaker 7: creative experience. I think Mona protected her husband because her

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Speaker 7: husband probably protects the doction out of her. I love that.

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Speaker 5: It's awful when anyone does it right and at church

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Speaker 5: and then the payback like that's someone you should not

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Speaker 5: even be with.

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Speaker 6: I think if you even think to treat your partner

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Speaker 6: jacked up because you have more money than them, or

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Speaker 6: you're more famous in them, why even with them? Is

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Speaker 6: that your product?

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Speaker 5: Because I think that's I think that's evil. I remember

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Speaker 5: I had a public relationship a few years back. Y'all

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Speaker 5: all know who I'm talking about, and we did a

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Speaker 5: reality show together, and I was very protective over him,

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Speaker 5: Like I did not let people play about his name

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Speaker 5: and say, you know none of that stuff and they

577
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Speaker 5: didn't know. But at the house, I was very protective.

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Speaker 5: We went somewhere, he's strapped, he's from a military. He's

579
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Speaker 5: making sure I'm good, that you know all the basic things,

580
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 5: the door and all that stuff. But just like I

581
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Speaker 5: felt like I had a manner on me that protects me.

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Speaker 5: When it's time for me to go on the air

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Speaker 5: and do my show, he's setting up the lights. So

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Speaker 5: I believe he was helped me make more money, right,

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Speaker 5: So how dare I make emaculate him and be like

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Speaker 5: and throw it back in his face when you really

587
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Speaker 5: were with me shooting in the gym, You really were

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Speaker 5: with me, And there's nothing wrong with saying that. Give

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Speaker 5: you a partner with the props when they are there

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Speaker 5: for you, providing that emotional support they're looking after.

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Speaker 6: That is invaluable. Actually, especially in this business.

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Speaker 5: Women, when you go out there, we already know how

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Speaker 5: foul the businesses is the fact that you made it

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Speaker 5: and you're more successful financially than your man. Don't go

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Speaker 5: ahead and abuse him and throw it in his face

596
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Speaker 5: later on, and vice versa. Men that have the money

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Speaker 5: and they treat their women like crap because oh I

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00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 5: got it, brand saying all that nonsense.

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Speaker 6: You shouldn't be that person.

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Speaker 5: You should beat another man that's you feel that you're

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Speaker 5: equal seriously, because that's very, that's very, that's very, that's

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Speaker 5: a that's a horrible like are you in competition with

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Speaker 5: your woman?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 2: So I want to get into the latest between Candy

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Speaker 2: and Todd, Blue Claudia and Dustin. So Candy calls out Todd.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. That's the other story that I'll resectulate.

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Speaker 2: The TMZ headline is Candy Bird slams Todd Tucker as

609
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Speaker 2: a guest house squatter. Okay, Candy is saying that Todd

610
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Speaker 2: is living rent free in her guest house admit their

611
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 2: bit of divorce and not paying a dime in rent.

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Speaker 1: According to new documents obtained by TMZ.

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Speaker 2: So again that's the TMZ headline. Candy slam Todd for

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Speaker 2: not contributing financially to the home and for the care

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Speaker 2: of their kids as they continue to fight over custody

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Speaker 2: and support.

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Speaker 1: Candy has said since they've been separated.

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Speaker 2: Tod's been living in her guest home in Atlanta, which

619
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Speaker 2: she says is on her property purchased before their marriage.

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Speaker 2: In the court documents, Candy said that Todd has not

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Speaker 2: paid a single expense for the maintenance and upkeep of

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Speaker 2: the home, to include utilities, gas, long cair, water, pest control,

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Speaker 2: or even fees associated with the alarm system. On top

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Speaker 2: of that, Candy's alleging that Todd has not provided any

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Speaker 2: support for the home where their.

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Speaker 1: Two kids live. She said she is the traditional character.

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Speaker 2: Did she's the traditional Claudia I'm realna legal note, She

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Speaker 2: said she is a traditional caregiver for the kids despite

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Speaker 2: her active professional life as an entertainer and reality star.

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Speaker 2: Candy also sent the legal documents that she hired a nanny.

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Speaker 1: Who does most of the rest of his slack.

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Speaker 2: Despite Tod's claim on social media that he is.

633
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Speaker 1: An active father. Todd has responded to.

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Speaker 2: That, and in his filling Todd admitted that yes, he

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Speaker 2: is living in the guest house, but he said it's

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Speaker 2: because Candy unanal okay.

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Speaker 8: Unilaterally removed from the main house by directing her Okay,

638
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Speaker 8: Todd is saying that she moved him from the house child,

639
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Speaker 8: give y'all the real version, and he also is alleged

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00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 8: that he was removed from the main home directing her

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Speaker 8: family members.

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Speaker 2: To relocate his stuff without his consent and without court intervention.

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Speaker 2: Todd is saying that he did not voluntarily leave the home,

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Speaker 2: but did not fight Candy on it in order to

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Speaker 2: preserve peace, instability, and last, but not least, Todd has

646
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Speaker 2: said that Candy has been New York working on a

647
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Speaker 2: Broadway project while he has been in Georgia taking care

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Speaker 2: of the kids. Blue, what are your thoughts on the

649
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 2: latest update between Candy and Todd, because it is starting

650
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Speaker 2: to get a little bit messy.

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Speaker 7: I think this is good, old fashioned weaponized incompetence. It's

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Speaker 7: funny that we were just talking about protecting your partner.

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Speaker 7: This is when keeping it real goes wrong. Sometimes you

654
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Speaker 7: can protect your partners to the point where you enable

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Speaker 7: bad behavior and you normalize it, and so when you

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Speaker 7: try to course correct it because you're getting let's say

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Speaker 7: a divorce, they are now acting like a child having

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Speaker 7: a tantrum. Because well, you never took away my binkie

659
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 7: before before bedtime. Why are you suddenly having all these

660
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 7: rules and healthy boundaries now? I think we saw Candy

661
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 7: being very protective of Todd. We just talked about this,

662
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 7: right even when Mama Joyce was talking about him crazy,

663
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 7: she was always like, that's my husband. I love him,

664
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 7: X Y and Z. Todd has been enabled, in my opinion,

665
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 7: just my opinion, he's been about. I think Todd's been

666
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 7: enabled to be with a woman who gets shit done

667
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 7: and he knows that he doesn't have to do but

668
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 7: so much because Can's gonna always figure out how to

669
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 7: get things done. That is weaponized and competence. Because now

670
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 7: that they're no longer in a marital relationship in the

671
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 7: traditional sense, he's still expecting her grace to overextend to

672
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 7: him in a way that you're not her husband anymore.

673
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 6: You're her a.

674
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 7: Strange husband about to be divorced from her. And so

675
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 7: I think Todd has probably been acting like this in

676
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 7: ways that Candy has not told us not to embarrass him,

677
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 7: and now that they're about to get a divorce, she's

678
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 7: being honest about how little he's investing. I don't think

679
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 7: this is new, and he still thinks that he has

680
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 7: a case because he's used to being able to act

681
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 7: like this and get away with it. Also with the

682
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 7: family removing the items, as a grown ass man with

683
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 7: a shred of dignity who knows how to stand on

684
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 7: your own because you haven't been suckling on your wife's

685
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 7: teeth for the last fourteen years. If the family took

686
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 7: your stuff and put it in the guest house, he'd

687
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 7: be like, you know what, I'm gonna figure out someplace

688
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 7: else to go. I can make my own money, and

689
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 7: I will make sure that I still spend time with

690
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 7: my children, where for you just be squatting in the

691
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 7: guest house and still allegedly not be taking care of

692
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 7: your kids and be throwing a little look back that

693
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 7: she's employed and therefore somehow not as good as a mother.

694
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 7: There's something so nasty and weak about that. There's something

695
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 7: nasty and weak and spiteful about how Todd is acting

696
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 7: that makes me believe that he was enabled when they

697
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 7: were married, And now that Candy's finally trying to stet boundaries,

698
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 7: he thinks that that she's being unfair because she's finally

699
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 7: making back like a grown up.

700
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: Dustin.

701
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 3: So I actually echo off quite a few sentiments that

702
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 3: Boo just expressed, right, because I think that Todd's response

703
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 3: her what you just shared with us to what Candy

704
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 3: offered in the first place, right, which was, Hey, I've

705
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 3: been paying and she she itemized right, she got specific.

706
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 3: I've been paying the alarm bill. I've been paying for

707
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 3: the education. I've been paying for the staff to help,

708
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 3: you know, get be caregivers for the kids. I've been

709
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 3: paying for all the expenses to the home, the long care.

710
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 3: This this that she got really specific about what she

711
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 3: been helping, what she been facilitating, and really specific about

712
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 3: what Todd.

713
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:49,240
Speaker 4: Was not doing.

714
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 3: His response was, your damn family moved me out the

715
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 3: house into the guest house, and I didn't say nothing

716
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 3: about it because I still wanted us to be cool.

717
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 3: And you're away in New York working making money, and

718
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 3: I'm here at the house and I have been doing

719
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 3: some things with the kids. That doesn't address any of

720
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 3: the financial items that Candy outlined in that initial piece

721
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 3: that you share with us.

722
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 4: So that makes me feel like I'm assuming here.

723
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 3: I'm really I'm just that makes me feel like it's very,

724
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 3: very possible that their initial breakdown in general could have

725
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 3: been connected to Todd not contributing to the household expenses

726
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 3: in some way, you know what I'm saying.

727
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 4: I think Candy left the Housewives.

728
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 3: She started doing other things, tour with Escape, produced multiple

729
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 3: plays on Broadway, which he had partnered with him on.

730
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 3: She was working and doing things, and we kind of

731
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 3: stopped seeing Todd talking about opening another restaurant or running

732
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 3: those businesses or being proactive. He did put out his

733
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 3: film The Past, but that was something that he partnered

734
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 3: with Candy on, so it wasn't independent of that.

735
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 4: I know he has a new film out.

736
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,040
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if Candy is a part of that

737
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 3: or not, but I think that this might all be

738
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 3: about time making a mistake on top of not working

739
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 3: and her being fed up with that. I think that

740
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 3: that's what that all cooled me into a little bit, Claudia.

741
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 6: I mean, she.

742
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 5: Candy protected him so much and put him on every project.

743
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 5: Let's be clear, Like not take away from Todd. He

744
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 5: was working as a producer when she met him, right,

745
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 5: but like her name definitely like ups the anti, you know,

746
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 5: and she brought him on all these opportunities where if

747
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 5: it was a Todd maybe could have got done. But

748
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 5: Todd and Candy is gonna get done. It's gonna get done.

749
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,720
Speaker 5: But what I have a problem with him is complaining

750
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 5: about her being gone in New York working so much

751
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 5: and not being there for the kids, all while living

752
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 5: and benefiting off of said work that she does to

753
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 5: make it where you can live in the big house

754
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 5: and even to the guest house rent free, and then

755
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 5: also not contribute to the kids. You can't have it

756
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 5: both way, my boy. You cannot. You know, like I'd

757
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 5: be damn if I protected you all these years where together,

758
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 5: and then when things you don't get your way anymore,

759
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 5: or we go and we're going through our thing, we're

760
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 5: breaking up. Whatever you try to put me on blast.

761
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 5: That's for the judges. She's not here, she's gone all

762
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 5: the time. She's not a present mother. She can't really

763
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 5: possibly be a good mom. That's what that's for. That's

764
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 5: a dog whistle for the courts, having it on record.

765
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,720
Speaker 5: He started this campaign a few months back, Daddy Daycare,

766
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 5: Daddy Daycare, really putting it out there, like almost making it.

767
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 5: And nothing is worse for a woman than to be

768
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 5: viewed as a woman. That's not present for their kids,

769
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 5: and that's a quick way to demonize her and make

770
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,720
Speaker 5: her seem like, yeah, she works and she makes the money.

771
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 5: But once again it's another situation humbling. I gotta bring

772
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 5: you down a little bit. So she's now demonized for

773
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 5: doing something that benefits you. That is crazy, Todd and

774
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 5: you know that, like you know that. And then of

775
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 5: course you're not going to be in the big house

776
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 5: with her, And of course it's even generous for you'd

777
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 5: be in the guest house.

778
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 6: But I think that may have been in the prenup.

779
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: But like why I'll touch on that after you go.

780
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 5: Why would you want to be in the same Like

781
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 5: it's uncomfortable going through a divorce when people were at

782
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 5: the point now where is they're taking shots now right

783
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 5: in the media.

784
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 6: Of course we can't be up on the same roof.

785
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 6: And really, I don't want you on my property.

786
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 5: It's time for you to take those checks that we

787
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 5: made together and go be a grown up and go

788
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 5: get a place for you so you can like entertain

789
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 5: the kids when you have when you have them.

790
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 6: I just don't like that.

791
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 5: Don't don't criticize the very hand that's making this cushy

792
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 5: lef style possible for you right now, that's that's wrong.

793
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 4: That's wrong.

794
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 2: And as you brought up the prenup, and again, I'm

795
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 2: not sure if this aired made the cut and rain

796
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 2: Drops tell me if I tell.

797
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: Me if it didn't.

798
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 2: From my understanding, because obviously you guys know, I'll produce

799
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 2: the wedding special. And from my memory, I do believe

800
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: allegedly that in their prenup, if something happened like a

801
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 2: separation or divorce, that is in the prenup, that Todd

802
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 2: would be in the guest house right.

803
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 7: That the prenup said that he had thirty days to

804
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 7: kate the main house if they ever got divorced.

805
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,439
Speaker 2: Yes, So I want you guys to know that's why

806
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 2: he's in the guest house because that is a part

807
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 2: of the prena. Now I don't know how long that is.

808
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 2: It could be until the divorce is final. But I

809
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 2: wanted to clear up because a lot of people are

810
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 2: calling him a squatter and I just wanted them to

811
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 2: know that legally he does have a right to be

812
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 2: in the guest house.

813
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: He's not saying it's still getting again again.

814
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 2: Thankfully, I worked on the show and what I can say,

815
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 2: because I was a president, Candy has step us on

816
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 2: camera that.

817
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 1: When Candy bought the house.

818
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 2: In cash, and Candy bought that house before she met Todd.

819
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 2: She bought the house in cash, and Candy renovated the

820
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 2: house and cash.

821
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: She did all this before she met Todd. From my

822
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: recollection producing housewas of Atlanta.

823
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 2: It was said that because the house is paid for,

824
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,919
Speaker 2: there's no mortgage, that Todd's contribution.

825
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 7: Was the utilities and he's not paying that right now.

826
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 2: Right So I wanted to bring that up because again,

827
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 2: I know the audience and the rangeops is like, but

828
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 2: why she talked about the alarm system, the utilities. I

829
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 2: think she's saying that because part of their agreement was

830
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 2: because the house is paid for, his contributions was the

831
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 2: utility bills.

832
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: And I do believe that allegedly that's why she put

833
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:29,280
Speaker 1: that in there.

834
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 2: So again I want to add some context to it

835
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 2: based on on that too. What I want to talk

836
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 2: about next in terms of Candy and Todd, as this

837
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 2: is getting messier than I think we all thought it

838
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 2: was going to be. Quality, I'll start with you, are

839
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 2: you because your friends with Candy in real life? Y'all

840
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 2: hang out, you know, when when of you guys are

841
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 2: able to be in the same city. Are you so

842
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:08,280
Speaker 2: prize that it is getting this messy because we're learning

843
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 2: new information weekly based on the constant filing of these documents,

844
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 2: And are you surprised that they weren't able to amicably

845
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 2: settle all of this before the public gets to know

846
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 2: such pertinent information.

847
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 6: Well, I want to like put too much dip on

848
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 6: my chip.

849
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,959
Speaker 5: With my relationship with her, it's just once in a while,

850
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 5: like I don't talk to on the phone like that.

851
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 5: We definitely show love on social media and stuff like that,

852
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 5: and we did take her out for our birthday last year,

853
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 5: and you know, I saw those signs.

854
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 6: No, I'm not surprised.

855
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 5: This is normal for any relationship, right The person you

856
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 5: break up with is not the person you married.

857
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 6: You're the person who get together with.

858
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 5: It's all love and beautiful until it's not, you know,

859
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 5: and sadly this happens. Like the person you love the

860
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 5: most is like the person that's like dead to you.

861
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 6: You don't even talk to them anymore.

862
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 5: You resent them, you despise them, you know, because you're disappointed.

863
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 5: I'm not surprised that it went like this. Actually, when

864
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 5: we were covering it, we were.

865
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 6: Saying it was good.

866
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 5: I'm like, it's just a matter of time, because that's

867
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 5: kind of what It's rare to have a good breakup.

868
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 5: It's rare, especially when it's uneven like the you know,

869
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 5: the financially and and Candy has a fan base.

870
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 6: I'm sure he's getting irritated, and.

871
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 5: Rightfully so from what people are saying about him.

872
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 2: Well, he even posted Claudia on Instagram. He he posted

873
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 2: Rick Ross songs scheme in State scheming and obviously we

874
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 2: know that one of the famous saying it is a

875
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 2: scheme that Todd sets set up got out to birth up.

876
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: No, that's yeah, I'm birth yeah for that one.

877
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 2: So he played the song stayed scheming Claudia and then

878
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 2: the Captain Claudia, he brought the roller the F word.

879
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: So do you think that is because yeah, Blue, he said.

880
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 2: Do you think but Clauda to your point, do you

881
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 2: think that candy fan base is attacking him? And this

882
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 2: is his way of.

883
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 5: Of course he's getting the most smoke even here on

884
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 5: the show, like everywhere, he's getting the most smoke. But

885
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 5: because that's how we see it where I mean, we're

886
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 5: seeing I think the part that makes it worse is

887
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 5: how protective Candy was of him, and that's why he's

888
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 5: getting the smoke more of a lot of smoke. It

889
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 5: ain't like it people can't call out women. They get

890
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 5: called out all the time. But I think in this regard,

891
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 5: we're more rexample quicker to side with her on this

892
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 5: because she, like y'all said earlier, she went out of

893
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 5: her way to check her family and like not let

894
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 5: anybody diminish time.

895
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 6: She definitely made sure no we this is my man

896
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 6: and he's not my underling.

897
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,399
Speaker 5: She never treated him like that whatever they had going on,

898
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 5: she did not publicly treat him like that. So then

899
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 5: you almost feel like, damn you you you like you

900
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 5: said Blue, ungrateful, like you know, you would think I

901
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 5: have built some equity with you that in the game

902
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 5: with you, like okay, if it goes bad, you can't

903
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 5: take away that I at your bag. I elevated you

904
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 5: career wise, monetarily, and I definitely didn't let no one

905
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 5: play in your face about I never let no one

906
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 5: disrespect me, including my own mother and aunts.

907
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 6: So then to see it go like this is like

908
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 6: damn bro, Like.

909
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 2: Well, well there are people dusting and blue you can

910
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 2: chime into to Claudia's point. There are people, though, Claudia,

911
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 2: because I want to make sure we have both sides.

912
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 2: There are people, though Claudia, who have said that Todd

913
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 2: wasn't protected by her family in terms of the things

914
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 2: they would say about him, and then to hear.

915
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: That they moved out his stuff. Do you think that that.

916
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 2: Do you think the Mama Joyce, let's call out what

917
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 2: it is. Do you think the Mama and Joyce think

918
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 2: never ever went away? Like you just like that always

919
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 2: stayed with him and he did lose his mom. He

920
00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 2: doesn't have his father's decease, his mother's decease, So.

921
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: Do you think a lot of that never left the state?

922
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 5: Of course, because we're still saying to this day, it's

923
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 5: a great it's it should be on a T shirt.

924
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 6: It's a great saying.

925
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 5: It's funny, right, and it's stuck to him and he's

926
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 5: now branded by that, like people, you know, you don't even.

927
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 6: Know what the situation was that she said that for,

928
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 6: but we all know it's people use that. That's a

929
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 6: mainstream saying now like it really is a scheme that's

930
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 6: taught that up.

931
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 5: People say that that didn't even watch the Housewives, so

932
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 5: of course he's gonna feel defensive. And yeah, you're right,

933
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 5: the family didn't protect him. I think Candy did her best.

934
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 7: Yeah they're different, Okay, yeah, I said sorry. It's tricky.

935
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 7: It's tricky when your family is committed to being ignorant

936
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 7: and people are seeing you struggling to respect your mother

937
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,720
Speaker 7: while still honoring your husband. The effort that Candy has,

938
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 7: I think he is ungrateful, because let's keep it a stack.

939
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 7: Candy's not perfect. Nobody is perfect, right, there are moments

940
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 7: where she could have fought a little bit harder, but

941
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 7: she loved Mama joys that she loves Todd, so it

942
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 7: got tricky for her. What makes me upset is I've

943
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 7: said this. I think I said this when they first

944
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 7: announced the divorce to you guys, I one hundred percent personally.

945
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 7: Nobody else I to agree with me. I believe that

946
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 7: Todd resents how exalted Candy is in general and thought

947
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 7: the divorce would be the opportunities to nick her armor

948
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 7: a little bit. Because when they first announced the divorce,

949
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 7: she was being super lovely about it, like, you know what,

950
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 7: we're still going to be friends. That's still the father

951
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 7: of my children. We spend Thanksgiving together, doesn't have to

952
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 7: be weird. She was still going to protect him post breakup,

953
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 7: and he was like, look at this bitch. They're talking

954
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 7: crazy about me and she's still on the kumbaya shit.

955
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 7: I want to show that she's not perfect. I think

956
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 7: there's a pot of Todd who was mad at the audience,

957
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 7: but it's okay with taking it out on Candy. He

958
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 7: wants to show that she's not as perfect as we

959
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 7: all think on his way out, and that is resentment.

960
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 7: Resentment is every psychologist we can talk to. Resentment is

961
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 7: the most dangerous thing a partner can feel about you.

962
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 7: It means they will spite you just to spite you,

963
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 7: even if you are giving them every incentive to have

964
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 7: their back. He resents her. I'm gonna die on that

965
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 7: hill he resents her, and that's bigger than Mama Joyce, Dustin.

966
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 4: You know, y'all know how I approach things.

967
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 3: I think we need a rubric here, a guide here

968
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 3: to like navigate these proceedings. And to me, the only

969
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 3: thing that we can depend on are the court documents

970
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 3: that have, you know, specific line items in them that

971
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 3: deserve our attention. And while we could sit up and

972
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 3: talk about whether we feel like it was cool the

973
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 3: way that Mama Joys and them were disrespectful at times

974
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 3: to Todd, or the way that there was static between

975
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 3: someone Candy's family that loved her fiercely and was protective

976
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 3: over her. Naturally, that doesn't say where her behavior was

977
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 3: right or wrong. I'm just saying that's what happened. We

978
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 3: could talk about that all damn day. But to me,

979
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 3: what we should talk about is what the fuck is

980
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 3: in them papers and what they are negotiating back and

981
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 3: forth with in court. And when you read the list

982
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 3: of items. Now one time that I hear Mama Joyce's

983
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 3: rude comments, Now one time that I hear, you know,

984
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 3: anything of that sort. His illustration of being put out

985
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 3: of the house by her family. That's what happens when

986
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 3: people have a divorce and a breakup. The families of

987
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 3: the people come and support them in the breakdown of

988
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 3: the marriage and the living arrangements. That's what happens. So

989
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 3: thank you for having that context, But it's not indicative

990
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 3: of mistreatment to me, at least to my ear when

991
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 3: I hear it. Now again, I think that people use

992
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 3: their feelings about and their opinions about what they saw

993
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,280
Speaker 3: on the show and the way that people were spoken

994
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 3: to and treated, and they use those feelings to substantiate

995
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 3: then taking a side in this divorce, and I feel

996
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,280
Speaker 3: like that's ridiculous. Right, They got two fucking kids together

997
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 3: that are young and that are more than enough of

998
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 3: a reason for them to figure it the fuck out

999
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 3: and figure out how to get along with each other

1000
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 3: and make this as harmonious as possible. Who's right and

1001
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 3: who's wrong to me is pretty clear based on the

1002
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 3: fact that he got put out the house.

1003
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 4: Or not, right or wrong? Who broke the marriage?

1004
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 3: Right, it's pretty clear based on the fact that he

1005
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:11,240
Speaker 3: got put out with our resistance of the house, he's

1006
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:15,240
Speaker 3: not working gainfully as per the agreement that you just read.

1007
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 3: I mean, it just paints a certain picture for us, right,

1008
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:20,879
Speaker 3: and so they have some things to figure out.

1009
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 4: This ain't about whether or not we like.

1010
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 3: The way Mama Joyce talked to him, or the fact

1011
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 3: that Candy didn't intervene enough or.

1012
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 4: None of that shit.

1013
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 3: Figure out what's on the papers and move the fuck on,

1014
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 3: because if it was me, I wouldn't give a damn

1015
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 3: about none of this. What do you need from me?

1016
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 3: Let's figure out how to dissolve this. I want to

1017
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 3: be done with your ass and I don't want to

1018
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 3: fight with you either. Let's just be done and get

1019
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 3: this finished because we got fucking children to raise.

1020
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 4: So I think.

1021
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 3: That and I know I'm being long winded, but they

1022
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 3: was on TV for fourteen seasons, so we got a

1023
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 3: lot of shit to talk about, So I think that,

1024
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:54,240
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

1025
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 4: People just form strong opinions about the way that in

1026
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 4: the systems that they ran their house with. People watch

1027
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 4: the show, form strong opinions as they should on the

1028
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 4: show that showcases your life, but they're.

1029
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 3: Carrying those opinions over in this divorce and they just

1030
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 3: don't belong there to me.

1031
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 2: Sorry, that's now, and listens everything you said. A lot

1032
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 2: of people are invested because, like you said, they were

1033
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 2: on the show together for Todd joined season five and

1034
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 2: Candy left the show after season fifteen, so Todd ten

1035
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:32,240
Speaker 2: seasons on the show, Candy fourteen, So people are invested. Listen,

1036
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 2: my thoughts and prayers brought to Candy, Todd and children.

1037
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 2: Hopefully they can reach an amicable decision based on their

1038
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 2: divorce because you know, at the end of the day,

1039
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 2: what I will say is I've seen firsthand how much

1040
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 2: they love each other, and like said Claudia Sin and

1041
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 2: Blue said, obviously something happened in the marriage clearly, just

1042
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 2: based on the living situation that I don't want to

1043
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 2: speculate on because that hasn't been talked about, and I

1044
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 2: know there's other things being talked about. I don't want

1045
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 2: us to touch that because I would rather wait until

1046
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 2: that does come out by both parties, and until then,

1047
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 2: I don't want this to be a speculative moment of

1048
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 2: But he must have did that, she hasn't said in

1049
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 2: the court documents. She said a lot in clear launch systems.

1050
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 2: If you go talk about the ADT, you can talk

1051
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 2: about okay, So I'll say that. I want to move

1052
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 2: on to what's happening on Mariti Medicine.

1053
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: As we all know, Quad is in her forties.

1054
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 2: She has this boyfriend named King, and Quad is going

1055
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 2: through her IVF journey.

1056
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: It was a very emotional episode of Maritime.

1057
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:59,280
Speaker 2: Medicine last night where Quad not only informed her castmates

1058
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 2: that unfortun fortunately the process of her trying to have

1059
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 2: a baby did not take.

1060
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 1: She had a scene with King that will get to

1061
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: in a.

1062
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 2: Second, But before that, Quad broke down and said that

1063
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 2: she should have listened to doctor Jackie and doctor Simone

1064
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 2: when they told her in her thirties to freeze your eggs,

1065
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 2: and she said she didn't listen because she thought she

1066
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 2: had more time, and being I believe Quad, I'm sorry

1067
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 2: if I got the age wrong.

1068
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: I believe Quad is.

1069
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 2: Forty four and at this stage in her life it's not.

1070
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 1: It's not working out so far of her having a baby.

1071
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 2: I want to talk to the ladies first about this, Claudia,

1072
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 2: when you saw that scene, what are your thoughts on that?

1073
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 2: And is it something that a lot of women in

1074
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 2: your friend group also thought that they have more time

1075
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,280
Speaker 2: and they did not freeze their aids and their twenties

1076
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 2: and thirties and do they regret it now?

1077
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, thousand percent.

1078
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 5: Terracey Emans telling me like twelve maybe ten twelve years ago,

1079
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 5: we would have lunch and she's like, have you frozen

1080
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 5: your eggs?

1081
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 6: And I said no, I'm good.

1082
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 5: You know, everything's like periods on time if I'm healthy.

1083
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 5: She's like, you should and she's like I have. She's like,

1084
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:23,879
Speaker 5: I don't know if I want to have a baby,

1085
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 5: but I might meet a partner one day and she

1086
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 5: I didn't do it.

1087
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 6: So I've always been on the fence.

1088
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 5: But yeah, I do see a lot of women with

1089
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 5: some women that had chosen career to focus on career,

1090
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,280
Speaker 5: and sadly it seems like it's hard to have both,

1091
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.

1092
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 6: Do I regret it? Yeah? Sometimes I do.

1093
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 5: I that was heartbreaking to watch that because like, I

1094
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 5: don't I'm not dying to have a kid, but she

1095
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 5: obviously really wants to be a mom. So like knowing

1096
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 5: that that's something you really really want and there are

1097
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 5: things that you could have done that could have possible

1098
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 5: made that easy for you, it's it's heartbreaking the sea.

1099
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 6: I'll say it. I said it before and I'll say

1100
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 6: it again.

1101
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,879
Speaker 5: I just feel like in America, especially, I would say

1102
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 5: Black women more than any of the demographic, don't usually

1103
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 5: have the luxury to take a time out from their

1104
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 5: career to take maternity leave. It's like always, like the

1105
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 5: pressure is always on one hundred blue talk about your

1106
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 5: high blood pressure. I'm always I have anxiety and ada.

1107
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 5: We don't have the luxury a lot of times, you know,

1108
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 5: and to like prioritize that. So we're busy working, getting money,

1109
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 5: you know, and the time the years go by.

1110
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 6: Yes, it's very sad.

1111
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 5: I would encourage young girls, if you really feel in

1112
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 5: your heart you want to have a baby, please freeze

1113
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 5: your eggs until you're in a better position.

1114
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 6: It's so sad to see that. Yeah, it's very common,

1115
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:46,280
Speaker 6: very very calmon my friend's circle.

1116
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, Blue, that scene was first of why I agree

1117
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 7: with everything Claudia I said that scene was a little

1118
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 7: triggering for me to watch. I don't use that word.

1119
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 7: I know it's a trendy word, but I don't get

1120
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 7: triggered easily. But like, it broke my heart seeing that

1121
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 7: I've said this before and here in twenty twenty, Ebony K.

1122
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 7: Williams told me to freeze my eggs and I started

1123
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,760
Speaker 7: the process. And the place they sent me in Beverly

1124
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 7: Hills was so racist to me. It kind of soured

1125
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 7: me on it, you know what I mean. They thought

1126
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 7: I was just a young black girl and what are

1127
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 7: you doing it? Like they had to look at my

1128
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 7: age be like, oh no, she's grown, but like they

1129
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 7: were treating me like some young black girl.

1130
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 4: Come up.

1131
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 7: I didn't like how I was treated, and the guy

1132
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 7: I was talking to at the time told me, Oh,

1133
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 7: we could just do it the old fashionable. You ain't

1134
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 7: got worried about that plotois. He was full of it.

1135
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 7: And looking back, I regret that I was so easily

1136
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 7: scared off because in a couple of years later, when

1137
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,720
Speaker 7: I see Ebony with her baby, and I'm like, fuck,

1138
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:46,240
Speaker 7: I lost Like the years went by so quick between

1139
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 7: her telling me and then I looked up and she

1140
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 7: had a baby, and I was like, oh my god,

1141
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 7: my window right. And there's a sadness that came over

1142
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 7: me when I was like, I kept on deep prioritizing it,

1143
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 7: and my window might have just shut on me. And

1144
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 7: that it's painful to realize that you are so busy

1145
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 7: taking care of your family. I have elderly parents. I

1146
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 7: pay all their bills. I'm taking care of my mom

1147
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 7: who has kidney fellure, and my stepdad and all the

1148
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 7: people in my family that I'm taking care of. And

1149
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 7: when you're the breadwinner, this is something black women don't

1150
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 7: talk about. I'm not going to cry.

1151
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 6: It's okay if you do, though, this is serious. This

1152
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 6: is a sad thing, you know. It's like.

1153
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 7: It's a thing called network poverty.

1154
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: Right where you make it.

1155
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 7: You're living your dreams, you're doing all these fun shows,

1156
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 7: you're making good money, but it's not just your money.

1157
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 7: You have cousins who need groceries, and parents who are aging,

1158
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 7: and people in your life who you love who weren't

1159
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 7: as brave as you, and so you feel compelled to

1160
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 7: like make sure that you reach back and you take

1161
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 7: care of them. And then you look up and the

1162
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 7: one thing you wanted you forgot to prioritize, and so that, yeah,

1163
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 7: it broke my heart.

1164
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 2: No, and my Claudia said, listen, well, first of all,

1165
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 2: my heart was out to you, Claudia, and to you Lou.

1166
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 1: The reason like it doesn't affect us too, we do well.

1167
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 2: And that's the thing and the reason why I've known

1168
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 2: Quad for years, right.

1169
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: I never knew.

1170
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 2: In my conversations with Quad that that was even having

1171
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 2: a child with something on her list of things to do,

1172
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 2: because me and Quap was talking about like a bunch

1173
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 2: of other stuff.

1174
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: So seeing her go through this process, I was like, Wow.

1175
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 2: And one thing I want to ask you two before

1176
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 2: I get to Dustin, is the emotional toll that going

1177
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 2: through Iva has on couples, because what we're seeing this

1178
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 2: season with King and Quad.

1179
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 9: Is this.

1180
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 2: Sort of like I feel they're disconnected, right, But I

1181
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 2: do want to talk about the the emotional excuse me,

1182
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 2: turmoil that the ivy of journey and the fertility treatments

1183
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 2: and that pressure that applies to not just the woman

1184
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 2: but the man too. And and have you guys seen

1185
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 2: that in y'all experience, which our friends too.

1186
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 5: I think when you go through IVF, it makes it unsexy,

1187
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 5: like right, it becomes appointment setting, it becomes okay, we

1188
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 5: got to do it right now with all that stuff,

1189
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 5: right with even timing everything out, trying to get pregnant

1190
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 5: in natural with an IVF, it's you're injecting yourself with hormones.

1191
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 5: You're not yourself, you're not as fun as you once were.

1192
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 5: And your man sometimes you're making check out and you're

1193
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 5: doing this at the risk of you know, Black women

1194
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 5: are the most prone to dyeing childbirth in this country

1195
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 5: and a lot of countries actually the comparison to white

1196
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 5: bursts and attorney rates the morality.

1197
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 4: What am I saying?

1198
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 6: What am I trying to say?

1199
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 1: Mortality?

1200
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, thank you? Mortality rates through the roof of

1201
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 5: black women. So you're risking all this and then on

1202
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 5: top of it, you're not sexy to your man right

1203
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 5: now because you're going through all these hormonal changes.

1204
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 6: Yes, it's it's it's very sad.

1205
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 5: I mean I never went through IVF, but I had

1206
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 5: a miscarriage before and I was abandoned by my mate.

1207
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 5: I said, actually, what caused it? I didn't eat for

1208
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 5: three days and then I went to the doctor's by

1209
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 5: myself or an ultrasound and they were like, oh and

1210
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 5: very it was like same thing, blue white clinic place.

1211
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 5: The doctor was very hard, like very hard and me

1212
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 5: not caring to me he said it. So he was like,

1213
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 5: no heartbeat, kiddos. That's how we said it, baby dad,

1214
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 5: and that's how he said it. And I'm like, I'm

1215
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,919
Speaker 5: here by myself. And this person didn't have to carry

1216
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 5: the guilds of it, never even checked up on me.

1217
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 5: It totally churned me off from being a mom. So,

1218
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 5: I you know, partners, I only say that to say

1219
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 5: your role on this is so important supporting a woman,

1220
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 5: It's so important to like, yes, it may not be

1221
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 5: sexy for you for a few months or six months

1222
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 5: or a year or whatever, but like that is when

1223
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 5: she needs you the most. And yes, it's it's it's

1224
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 5: I don't know. It made me cold towards kids having kids,

1225
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 5: It really did, Yeah it did.

1226
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 4: Justin Yeah, you know, I don't have eggs. But what

1227
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 4: I do know is it neither.

1228
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 6: I don't think, I don't know.

1229
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 7: I love.

1230
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 4: I like to do there.

1231
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 3: I'm a person who fiercely believes that women should have

1232
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 3: one hundred percent control over their bodies and over the

1233
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 3: decisions they make when it comes to their healthcare, motherhood,

1234
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 3: and childbearing, and all of that is very sensitive and

1235
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 3: deeply personal for women.

1236
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 4: So I stay my ass up out of that.

1237
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 3: What I will say is that if you want to,

1238
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 3: if you choose to make a decision to take that

1239
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 3: journey with your partner, then take the damn journey from

1240
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 3: beginning to end.

1241
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 4: To me, you know, guess why you make a decision

1242
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 4: to do that.

1243
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 3: You know what it entails going into it, You know

1244
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 3: what the expectation is. You know the ways that you

1245
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 3: can support, and you need to be open to keeping

1246
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 3: an eye out for additional ways that you can support

1247
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 3: your partner.

1248
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 4: As y'all navigate that shit.

1249
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 3: So I you know, I just think it's kind of

1250
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 3: lame for people to get cold feet in the middle

1251
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 3: of that process, and then the woman is sitting there

1252
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 3: left to navigate these emotional waters alone. I just don't

1253
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 3: think that's cool. That's all I will say. And everybody

1254
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 3: see whatever their heart desires. If you want to be

1255
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 3: a mom, I hope it works out for you. If

1256
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 3: you're a woman who doesn't have that natural desire to

1257
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 3: be a mom, you still can be gratefully grateful, I

1258
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 3: mean greatly impactful, you know what I'm saying, to the

1259
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 3: lives of other children that you do have a relationship with.

1260
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 3: There's so many ways that you can pour into the

1261
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 3: next generation outside of traditional motherhood. So if that's something

1262
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 3: people desire, I hope that they get their heart's desires.

1263
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 3: And if it doesn't happen for people that desire it,

1264
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 3: I hope they find additional ways to kind of pour

1265
01:02:57,840 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 3: into the lives of young people.

1266
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 7: Charles, can I say one thing, and this is I'm

1267
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 7: not gonna get sary. There is one thing that women

1268
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 7: have to be honest with themselves about. That made me,

1269
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 7: despite my little emotional moment a couple seconds ago, make

1270
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 7: peace with this. I always knew that I wanted to

1271
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 7: be a mother, but not a single mother. And I

1272
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 7: think back in the day, as a trauma response, Black

1273
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 7: women were told be a mother by any means necessary,

1274
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 7: and I watched how much that killed the women in

1275
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 7: my family. And so me not choosing to have a

1276
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 7: child was because I wanted to do it as a

1277
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 7: part of a partnership or just get me a dog, right,

1278
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 7: And so this new generation of more emotionally intelligent like

1279
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 7: women who understand their options are saying, I want a child,

1280
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 7: but I don't want to do it in a way

1281
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 7: that's tended to struggle, just to say I have a kid,

1282
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 7: and a lot of us who are the kids of

1283
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 7: mothers who struggled know what it's like for the kid

1284
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 7: as well. And so there's a bit of a generational

1285
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 7: curse that's breaking that we're willing to make those hard

1286
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 7: decisions rather than just have a child by any means necessary.

1287
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 7: And I find peace in knowing that I was going

1288
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 7: to do my kid in the way that was best

1289
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 7: for them or not at all. That's me not being selfish,

1290
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 7: because a lot of women feel like they have to.

1291
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 7: If you didn't have a child, because you didn't find

1292
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 7: the right person to do it in the way where

1293
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 7: you'd be supported. There's actually honor in being honest that

1294
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 7: you wanted that support or not do.

1295
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 2: It at all.

1296
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 5: I one thousand percent agree with you. It's not that

1297
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 5: I didn't want to be a mom. I did not

1298
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 5: want to do it by myself.

1299
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 6: I did not.

1300
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 5: My mother struggled, left her country, beat my dad when

1301
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 5: they got divorced. She was an immigrant with two black

1302
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 5: kids in America making three hundred dollars a week, okay,

1303
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 5: and we had to struggle. And that's why I work

1304
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 5: so hard. I will never be at the mercy of

1305
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 5: a man that will take it away from me, or

1306
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 5: stop me from eating or with I did, oh, I

1307
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 5: already paid you this week, figure it out. I was

1308
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 5: never going to do that to my kid, never ever, ever, ever, ever.

1309
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 5: And so if it wasn't going to be the perfect situation,

1310
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 5: and hey criticize me for one in the profession, but

1311
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I wasn't gonna do it any other way.

1312
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 5: And then the one time I was vulnerable for a

1313
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 5: man that was not my husband, that we were in love,

1314
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 5: and I was like actually looking forward to that baby.

1315
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 5: When I gave him the news, he abandoned me because

1316
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 5: he had another situation going on, and it was just

1317
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 5: so it was it was devastating, like that's when I

1318
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 5: was on my suicidal It was all that stuff that

1319
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 5: was happening. It was crazy, right, And I just I

1320
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 5: know we're just sharing stuff like it's related to quiet.

1321
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 5: But women just have to go through so much. And

1322
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 5: it's nothing wrong ladies that you want to have a

1323
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 5: better life for your kid that you went through, Like Blue,

1324
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 5: I think we're.

1325
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 6: Both saying the same thing. There's nothing wrong. I don't

1326
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 6: think that's being selfish. I think that's being generous.

1327
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:42,440
Speaker 5: I want to give you what I didn't get, you know,

1328
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 5: and I think more people should be doing that.

1329
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 6: Let's I don't want to struggle.

1330
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 4: I don't want to.

1331
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 6: I don't want to like get the the video games

1332
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 6: five years after the other kids.

1333
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 5: I don't want to like not know if I can

1334
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 5: go on to track me with the other kids because

1335
01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 5: my father might not be kicking the money.

1336
01:05:58,640 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 6: I don't want to be like that.

1337
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 5: I don't want uh not be able to get the

1338
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 5: cereal that I want for my kid. No fuck that,

1339
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 5: I'm not doing that. There's nothing wrong with that, Blue,

1340
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 5: There's nothing wrong with that. I think you do the

1341
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 5: right thing. And you're younger, you got you got some

1342
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 5: eggs up and now don't know, I don't know what

1343
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 5: I got doing.

1344
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 7: I got three in the back, child, I got like

1345
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 7: three random eggs in the back.

1346
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 6: About you up right now?

1347
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 5: It might be the just the under achieve slackers that

1348
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 5: are just left over, and I'm I'm too strict.

1349
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 6: I'll be like nah man athlete.

1350
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 1: Well, I will say this, thank you guys for sharing

1351
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 1: your personal story.

1352
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 2: I know that was a difficult topic to talk about,

1353
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 2: so I thank you too for being open and honest

1354
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 2: about it.

1355
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 1: And listen.

1356
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 2: One thing we do on this show we try to

1357
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:42,919
Speaker 2: encourage the audience and look if you're able to, because

1358
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:45,920
Speaker 2: I know it's also costly. So if you are a

1359
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 2: woman of particular age and you want kids, you know,

1360
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 2: please take heed to the advice and look into freezing

1361
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 2: your eggs. Unfortunately, it is a real it is a

1362
01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 2: real thing. So my heart goes out to you, blow

1363
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 2: you clas Enter, every woman who have to deal with this,

1364
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 2: and Quad, I love you, yes, okay.

1365
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 1: Love you Quad. I also love you James Earl Jones

1366
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 1: and Forrest well Cerve. Now we are getting into.

1367
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 7: That Segway was wild wild?

1368
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 1: This is that? Did James Jones say? This is ce

1369
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 1: it en? Or this is that?

1370
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 7: Was James O.

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01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 1: Jones was.

1372
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 2: Just have to say, do just have to say, Okay,

1373
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 2: I want to get into this is a the Potomac Reunion.

1374
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 1: We gotta start off with the footage. I don't know

1375
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 1: what it is about. Listening. Shout out to the production

1376
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 1: company of.

1377
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 2: The network, because y'all are able to get these women

1378
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 2: in these very your situations to film a week later,

1379
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 2: whether it's a week later coming home from jail, or

1380
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 2: a week later in any situation. So Wendy and Eddie

1381
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 2: shot a scene a week after getting arrested, and listen,

1382
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 2: I'm always going to be honest where a little bit

1383
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 2: of my bias will show up. I am friends with

1384
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 2: doctor Wendy in real life. I will by saying this,

1385
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:31,640
Speaker 2: I love you Wendy, I love you Eddie, and you

1386
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:34,680
Speaker 2: know we'll see the due process and core well, I

1387
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 2: will say watching that scene where Eddie and Wendy were

1388
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 2: recapping their arrest, and keep in mind rain dropped.

1389
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:44,559
Speaker 1: They shot this a week later after getting arrested.

1390
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 2: The part that struck me to my core that I

1391
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 2: did not see coming was when Wendy.

1392
01:08:54,439 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 1: Asked Eddie could their marriage survive it? And I thought

1393
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 1: to myself.

1394
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 2: Like, wait, what are we talking about? Because again, when

1395
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:10,720
Speaker 2: we watch the show, it appears they have, you know,

1396
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 2: the strongest marriage out of anybody. So when she posted

1397
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 2: that question, it took me by surprise. And the reason

1398
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 2: why it took me by surprise is because this is

1399
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 2: my opinion based on what I saw.

1400
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:36,679
Speaker 1: Her saying that made me believe this was allegedly.

1401
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 2: All on Eddie and that there was some sort of

1402
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 2: blame put on him.

1403
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 1: If I got that wrong, I got it wrong.

1404
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:50,679
Speaker 2: I'm telling you guys my initial reaction seeing her say that.

1405
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 1: And not only did she say that.

1406
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 2: Wendy also said I'm not going to be the same

1407
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 2: after this. I'm not the same now are you going

1408
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 2: to be okay with that?

1409
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 1: And again I was like, there seems to be this

1410
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1411
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say this blame for him, but there

1412
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:19,599
Speaker 2: did seem to be something put.

1413
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 1: More on him.

1414
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 2: And in that moment, I thought, to myself, is Wendy

1415
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 2: saying to us that.

1416
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 1: This was all Eddie and not her allegedly?

1417
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:33,600
Speaker 2: Or did Eddie get did Eddie get her into this situation.

1418
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:38,599
Speaker 2: What we did see in these alleged emails was that

1419
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 2: Eddie allegedly said to amp up the amount right, And

1420
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:51,759
Speaker 2: for me, it was sort of like, Okay, is Eddie

1421
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 2: responsible for what's about to happen? And she's saying to

1422
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 2: him because you put me in this situation, I don't

1423
01:10:58,400 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 2: know if this matterage is going to work out for me.

1424
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 1: I could have gone that all wrong. Dustin, when you watch.

1425
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 2: That, what were your thoughts on that scene itself before

1426
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:07,679
Speaker 2: we get to reunion.

1427
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I felt a little a little tug internally when

1428
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 3: Wendy said that in that scene, because it did pose

1429
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 3: some questions in my head like Okay, well is she

1430
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 3: place and blame here is she?

1431
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 4: But then I thought too, you know.

1432
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 3: If you're a married couple and both of you have

1433
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 3: been accused of some of the things that Wendy and

1434
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:30,559
Speaker 3: Eddie are accused of, it's a lot of logistics involved, right,

1435
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 3: a lot of decisions that.

1436
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 4: Have to be made.

1437
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 3: It's a lot of changes that are gonna come. We

1438
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 3: know that they had asked a judge to try them separately,

1439
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:45,679
Speaker 3: right Carlos initially, and so that coupled with those questions

1440
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 3: that she was asking Eddie makes me feel like maybe

1441
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 3: there was a situation where she wants to kind of identify,

1442
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 3: you know, who's at fault here. I don't know, she

1443
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:58,760
Speaker 3: could have just been asking him that, like as our

1444
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 3: marriage is going to survive at if one of us

1445
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:03,719
Speaker 3: has to go and one of us has to stay.

1446
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:08,559
Speaker 3: Look what happened with Teresa Jedyce and her asshole ex husband.

1447
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 4: Look what happened to them?

1448
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 3: Right who had the audacity to have his deported ass

1449
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:16,679
Speaker 3: on the internet complaining about the bad Bunny super Bowl.

1450
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 3: But I'm not even gonna go off about that shit

1451
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 3: this week. I'm gonna leave it there. But anyway, but

1452
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 3: it's the.

1453
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 4: Same thing talk.

1454
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 2: But to add to your point, does and to add

1455
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:31,640
Speaker 2: to your point, Teresa Sarah on the show publicly the

1456
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:33,639
Speaker 2: interviews that she blames jump.

1457
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, so like that you have to think about that

1458
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 3: and that resentment is a real thing, you know what

1459
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:42,679
Speaker 3: I mean When you start talking about jeopardizing somebody's damn family,

1460
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:45,439
Speaker 3: the kids, stability, all that kind of stuff that can

1461
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 3: really tear a relationship apart, even if y'all did the

1462
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 3: shit together or not. So I don't know, but I

1463
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:54,720
Speaker 3: definitely ask myself those same questions that you just identified

1464
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 3: in that scene, for sure.

1465
01:12:56,880 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 5: Claudia, you know what struck me as a red flag

1466
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 5: or like my antenna went up When they were doing

1467
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 5: that scene, they were on two different scripts. Her overacting

1468
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 5: of being dramatic in that scene was sending me like

1469
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 5: the way she was talking, I'm sorry, Wendy, I rock

1470
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 5: with you. I think you look bambas hell, you funny, smart,

1471
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:21,680
Speaker 5: you got you know, for degrees and all that. But

1472
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 5: she was like, and I know bad acting because I

1473
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 5: do it all the time. It was like I was

1474
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 5: on the scene and they were like, Okay, okay, you

1475
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 5: need to act like you got to really sell this right.

1476
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:42,719
Speaker 6: I would be like, do you think.

1477
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 7: Our marriage not the baby voice?

1478
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 6: Do you think we could surmart?

1479
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 5: And when you don't talk like that when I'm talking,

1480
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:53,639
Speaker 5: when you talk to your dude, you'd be like, I'm worried,

1481
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 5: Like do you think we're gonna make it? You would

1482
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:56,680
Speaker 5: say it like that. But I just felt like she

1483
01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 5: was really putting a lot on it. So I don't

1484
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 5: think she's gonna send And I think they whatever it is,

1485
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 5: I think they both have equal now.

1486
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 6: I think they both know what it is.

1487
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:07,599
Speaker 5: I'm not saying they're gooidty, but I I don't think

1488
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 5: he just blindly did something and Wendy had no lounger.

1489
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 5: She's too smart, she's too locked in, she's too observant.

1490
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:18,559
Speaker 6: She's not a dummy, you know what I mean? I

1491
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 6: don't know.

1492
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:21,760
Speaker 5: I hope they're innocent. I hope that there's a big

1493
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 5: misunderstanding here. But I also will say this in their

1494
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 5: defense in a way, when it comes to insurance fraud

1495
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 5: and overestimating stuff, I'm all for it.

1496
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 1: I don't hear she did we neither.

1497
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 5: I'm not even because the way they take your money

1498
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:42,599
Speaker 5: every damn month for car I've never used my car

1499
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:43,799
Speaker 5: insurance for nothing.

1500
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 6: I pay seven hundred a month of my car insurance. Okay,

1501
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 6: house insurance. Never used it.

1502
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 5: You've got five times, you get more of You've got

1503
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:56,759
Speaker 5: my money like five times over already.

1504
01:14:57,080 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 6: So I don't feel as bad.

1505
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 5: White people do it all the time, all the time,

1506
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 5: and it never comes off as a scammer. It's like

1507
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 5: just kind of like business as usual. It's right called

1508
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 5: crime when it's them. So I'm not gonna sit here

1509
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 5: and say I'm even mad at them because let.

1510
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:14,800
Speaker 6: Me tell you something. If I lose this necklace, I

1511
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 6: lost all of them. That's just that's the game, y'all.

1512
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 6: Julie's insurance is expensive. Damn. I can't lose no jewel.

1513
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 6: Now I can't file a claim because they gonna clip this.

1514
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 1: You are why.

1515
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 6: I just messed up. I didn't say the sea word, though, but.

1516
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:32,599
Speaker 7: You didn't see next Thursday. I have a theory, y'all.

1517
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 1: You want to hear it.

1518
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 6: He seemed casual in to scene. He was like, I mean,

1519
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 6: you know whatever, and she was like.

1520
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 5: I and he was like, but I mean, he was

1521
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:50,640
Speaker 5: like matter of fact, and I was like, there a

1522
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 5: few okay, I'm sorry.

1523
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 7: First of all, she said he he'd be eating edibles

1524
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 7: before he filmed, so he might have just been a

1525
01:15:57,040 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 7: little hot. She's on supply, so there's that. I have

1526
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 7: a small theory. Walk with me for a second. When

1527
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:07,599
Speaker 7: they first started on the show, they were talking about

1528
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 7: how Eddie was a strange from his family because they

1529
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:14,599
Speaker 7: didn't approve of Wendy. And we know that Wendy comes

1530
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:17,080
Speaker 7: from my mother, who needs to be kept.

1531
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 2: Okay, that lady.

1532
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:21,879
Speaker 7: Needs to be kept. I from watching them and reading

1533
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:26,639
Speaker 7: court documents, am starting to get this niggling feeling, not niggling.

1534
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 7: He has a little niggling feeling. Yes, I'm back to

1535
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:33,280
Speaker 7: my niggles because we're about to talk about James L. Jones,

1536
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:37,800
Speaker 7: and my niggling feeling is based on the emails. Whether

1537
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:39,840
Speaker 7: they came up together with it or not, Eddie was

1538
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 7: the lead. Based on the emails. He's the one saying, Hey,

1539
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:43,680
Speaker 7: is there anything else you want to add to the

1540
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 7: list of the stuff that we're going to say? God

1541
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 7: took right, So he was the lead just as a

1542
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:50,680
Speaker 7: matter of fact, based on the emails, he was the

1543
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:53,679
Speaker 7: one cross referencing and making sure that they had claimed

1544
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 7: all the things for pam Olivan and them right and

1545
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 7: Eddie Hennessy. I think that they want to make sure

1546
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:03,120
Speaker 7: that the heat is off of her because Eddie confessed

1547
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 7: in a podcast they did a couple of years ago

1548
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:09,680
Speaker 7: that he just recently reconciled with the family that was

1549
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 7: estrange from him. He just got back into their good

1550
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:16,679
Speaker 7: graces and have convinced them to welcome Wendy into the fray.

1551
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 7: So if we get caught in a ponderosa of swords,

1552
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:24,800
Speaker 7: it's actually better for Eddie to take it on the

1553
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 7: chin and be the fall guy. Number one, because Wendy

1554
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:30,439
Speaker 7: has a high earning potential with the show and everything

1555
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:34,120
Speaker 7: that's happening with the Bravo franchise. Number two, I gotta

1556
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 7: still convince my family, who just started liking you five

1557
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 7: minutes ago, to keep liking you now that we in

1558
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 7: this kerfuffle. And number three, Eddie is less of a

1559
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 7: sensational character. Whatever happens to Wendy, even if it happens

1560
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 7: to Eddie, the headline is gonna be about Wendy, with

1561
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 7: Eddie being a side feature.

1562
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 1: Right.

1563
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 7: So the minute they said we want to be tried alone,

1564
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 7: that is something I asked my lawyer friend. She said,

1565
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:58,559
Speaker 7: that's just something that couples do actually, when they're united

1566
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 7: and want to make sure they have chance for somebody

1567
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 7: to still be left behind with their children. If a

1568
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:05,680
Speaker 7: couple wants to make sure that at least one of

1569
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 7: us can stay behind with the kids, they intentionally ask

1570
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 7: to be tried separately, so they have twice as many

1571
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 7: chances of somebody being able to take care of the children.

1572
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 7: That speaks to a cohesion, to a partnership, to the

1573
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 7: very Wendy and Eddie that we know in love. It's

1574
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 7: actually in alignment with them, and so I could see

1575
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 7: them Pam Oliver and Eddie Hennessy saying, hey, yo, you're

1576
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 7: the perfect fall guy if this goes left, because I

1577
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:29,600
Speaker 7: can still make money, I can still make sure that

1578
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 7: we're good. Your family won't think that I'm the Jezebel

1579
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:34,640
Speaker 7: who led you astray, and you probably be out in

1580
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:36,840
Speaker 7: half the time because you're not as big of a

1581
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 7: fish as I am. I think they're in cohutes, even

1582
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:43,639
Speaker 7: if she is doing the Escandolo telenovela acting. I actually

1583
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 7: think that they are still working as a unit while

1584
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 7: pretending to be having all of this emotional melee.

1585
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:55,559
Speaker 6: And why they would be emailing these things when they

1586
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:56,880
Speaker 6: live in the same house.

1587
01:18:56,800 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 7: And it got cocky, like why would you email? You're

1588
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 7: not good alleged thieves. Nobody think they're good at what

1589
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 7: they do. But I think they're still scheming it.

1590
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:07,600
Speaker 5: Babe, me me out back by the pools, who we

1591
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:10,160
Speaker 5: can talk. I'm a whisper in your ear, okay.

1592
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:12,760
Speaker 7: And there's eight degrees between them. For degrees, these guys,

1593
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 7: we keep on talking about her fort degree hey has

1594
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:16,599
Speaker 7: for degrees as well. Sometimes you can be so smart

1595
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 7: it makes you stupid again, That's how I know. I

1596
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:26,720
Speaker 7: think they're still.

1597
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 1: Look at Hoot's friends.

1598
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 3: I don't I think that. I hope they. I hope

1599
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 3: that it works out for them, That's what I hope.

1600
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 3: I hope that they don't have to go to jail.

1601
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 3: I hope they get to raise their kids. I hope

1602
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 3: that if they do suffer a legal consequence, I hope

1603
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 3: it's not jail time, if at all possible. And if

1604
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:48,680
Speaker 3: they did make that mistake, I just don't think they

1605
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:51,599
Speaker 3: like bad people. I think they just did something wrong.

1606
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:54,120
Speaker 3: So that's I don't know. That's just how I feel,

1607
01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And I hope that it

1608
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 3: works out for them. I don't want to see them

1609
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:00,320
Speaker 3: get caught up even though they made like something. If

1610
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 3: the allegations are true, they make some really sloppy ass

1611
01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:08,599
Speaker 3: mistakes that are shocking considering their level of education. But

1612
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:10,599
Speaker 3: I don't want to see nothing happen to them. Call

1613
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:13,439
Speaker 3: it what you want, I don't, So, yeah, I hope

1614
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:14,759
Speaker 3: it work out in their favor.

1615
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'll say this, there was a heartbreaking scene

1616
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 2: to see their son, not to see but to hear,

1617
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 2: excuse me, their son Carter like all of that was sad,

1618
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:28,879
Speaker 2: and listen, this is my advice to all reality stars.

1619
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:34,240
Speaker 2: I'll stay in my lane of reality. And this has

1620
01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:36,960
Speaker 2: This is not too Wendy and Eddie before y'all say it.

1621
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 4: This is this is.

1622
01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 1: This is to all reality stars. You you guys.

1623
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 2: Have to stop trying to keep up with the Joneses. Okay,

1624
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:53,519
Speaker 2: it's and and and and perpetuate a lifestyle that isn't

1625
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 2: real for you, because the moment you're you start doing that,

1626
01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 2: you are. It's like when some want to say when

1627
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:02,360
Speaker 2: you lie once and you say a lie to keep

1628
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:03,840
Speaker 2: up with the lie you said at first, and the

1629
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:05,599
Speaker 2: next thing you know, it's a tsunamia lies.

1630
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 1: It's one of those.

1631
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 2: Things you do you have to constantly keep up. And

1632
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:12,200
Speaker 2: I just want all of you to know it's not

1633
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 2: even worth it.

1634
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:15,640
Speaker 1: It's not worth it.

1635
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:20,040
Speaker 2: Nothing is worth looking over your shoulder being worried about

1636
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 2: what's going to happen. It's like when you're driving without

1637
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:24,599
Speaker 2: a license, or when you're driving on a suspended license

1638
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:27,680
Speaker 2: and you're constantly looking over your shoulder hoping to not

1639
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 2: get pulled over. Being a reality star the unfortunate part

1640
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:37,640
Speaker 2: of this genre is the fact that, unlike your scripted counterparts,

1641
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:42,679
Speaker 2: the network doesn't pay for your glam, your wardrobe, none.

1642
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:42,960
Speaker 4: Of that shit.

1643
01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:45,920
Speaker 1: You do it all out of pocket. When the DAYA

1644
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:47,840
Speaker 1: has a movie to promote, the.

1645
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 2: Studio pays for every single glam and stylist. Law Roach

1646
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:55,560
Speaker 2: is not getting paid out as India's pocket.

1647
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 1: The studio in which movie she's promoting.

1648
01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:01,519
Speaker 2: So when you see Tianna Taylor, for example, on this

1649
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 2: press run for her Oscar nomination and going to Globe Win,

1650
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:09,880
Speaker 2: I want all of you guys to know, Tiana Taylor

1651
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 2: is not paying for these dresses. She's not paying for hair,

1652
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:15,920
Speaker 2: she's not paying for makeup, she's not paying for the

1653
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 2: black car. These the studios paying for that because they

1654
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:21,760
Speaker 2: want her to promote the film so that it can

1655
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:25,599
Speaker 2: get the nominations. So reality stars, stop trying to live

1656
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:28,760
Speaker 2: up to Zundia and Tianna Taylor and be.

1657
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:33,280
Speaker 1: Okay with making the money you make and learning.

1658
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:38,720
Speaker 2: How to use the reality show experience to to x

1659
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 2: your opportunities and don't end up in these situations.

1660
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 1: I promise you it's not worth it.

1661
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:47,360
Speaker 7: Stacey did that. Stacey wouldn't by no Turquoise, she said,

1662
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 7: I'm not rich. I'm not buying shit.

1663
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:52,800
Speaker 3: Stacey thought that it was ugly too.

1664
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:55,880
Speaker 4: It was too much for her.

1665
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 1: She was like, I'm not rich, I'm not buying nothing.

1666
01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 5: I ain't how everybody goes on these and act like

1667
01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 5: it's so unrealistic to be, especially first year or two

1668
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:05,880
Speaker 5: on a reality show, to really go on there and

1669
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:08,439
Speaker 5: act like you have all this money and then you're

1670
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:09,840
Speaker 5: doing it a lot of time for each other and

1671
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:11,600
Speaker 5: for the fans, and the fans don't even have that

1672
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:13,360
Speaker 5: money like that a lot of them don't, with some do.

1673
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 5: But like you're like, it's a whole lifestyle, Like look

1674
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:19,720
Speaker 5: at these people that are they They are killing themselves financially,

1675
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:23,160
Speaker 5: ranking clothes, doing scams, trying to like always look like

1676
01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:25,960
Speaker 5: they got the latest thing, knowing you really can't. Like

1677
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:28,680
Speaker 5: it's okay to say, look, man, I don't have the

1678
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 5: newest burkin.

1679
01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:32,559
Speaker 6: I don't have it. I have no burkins. They you

1680
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 6: don't like, stop living for everybody else.

1681
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:37,280
Speaker 5: Just be comfortable in your personality, that your personality is enough,

1682
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:40,599
Speaker 5: not the shawl that you have from Fendi that you're like, shit,

1683
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:41,880
Speaker 5: I really can't afford this.

1684
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 1: And you know who does it well? And I'll move

1685
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 1: on be like Sympton Bailey. Symp There Bailey.

1686
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 2: I have never in the years I've worked Atlanta Housewives,

1687
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:57,000
Speaker 2: I have never seen SymPy Bailey with a label.

1688
01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:00,720
Speaker 1: And she's one of the most beautiful women in.

1689
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:04,920
Speaker 2: The world, and she has her own style, and and

1690
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:08,040
Speaker 2: no one looks at Cynthia and call her bad dresser.

1691
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 1: Now y'all call some other people bad dressers. We'll get

1692
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 1: to that later. But then you said, what present.

1693
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 6: She gets up? But if she does get a label,

1694
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:21,960
Speaker 6: she's smart about it. Like she she put us all

1695
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 6: onto what's the store p J Max has?

1696
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 5: Uh, they would have they had the high end brands

1697
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 5: and have a super great sale, so you would go

1698
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:34,120
Speaker 5: in and you would get the stuff that is a

1699
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:35,639
Speaker 5: label much cheaper.

1700
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:36,680
Speaker 6: So she's cool with that.

1701
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:38,639
Speaker 5: And then she shares that tip with other women, which

1702
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 5: I think is super deeper amazing.

1703
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:46,640
Speaker 6: No, she's just she's if she gets it.

1704
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 5: She's not bragging. But I paid full price for this

1705
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:52,599
Speaker 5: stupid bag. I'm gonna say this, yeah, exactly.

1706
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:58,640
Speaker 9: Oh, Symphy of money is long Riot long not to

1707
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:01,559
Speaker 9: cell her business because she said publicly what thing we

1708
01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 9: all know about off friends of her Cynthia would.

1709
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:08,400
Speaker 1: Give you the close off her back, Yes she will. However,

1710
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:11,800
Speaker 1: Cynthia is also frugal and baby. One thing about the

1711
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:12,880
Speaker 1: Bailey honey, she.

1712
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:15,720
Speaker 2: Knows how to save her money and she knows how

1713
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 2: to like not even be without her means because.

1714
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:22,640
Speaker 1: Cynthia money is long. Hey Cynthia, But Cynthia does not

1715
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:23,639
Speaker 1: live us all of her means.

1716
01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:26,160
Speaker 2: And the beautiful thing about that is this woman was

1717
01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 2: a supermodel since she was sixteen years old and had

1718
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:33,720
Speaker 2: access to all the designers.

1719
01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 3: And a couple of things to remember, because y'all know,

1720
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:39,640
Speaker 3: I'm very protective of Cynthia Bailey. That's my friend in

1721
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 3: real life, and I'm not gonna ain't it ain't happening

1722
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:45,320
Speaker 3: connected to her name on my watch in no way. Right,

1723
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:51,639
Speaker 3: Cynthia is not living like a pauper. Right, Cynthia has

1724
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 3: a beautiful home on a lake in Atlanta, gorgeous home.

1725
01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 3: She drives a very nice vehicle, She has all the

1726
01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:00,719
Speaker 3: physical things that she wants, you know what I'm saying.

1727
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:01,960
Speaker 4: She's just smart with her bread.

1728
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 3: So it's not like living within your means means that

1729
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 3: you have to slum it essentially, right, you can live

1730
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 3: and just work and increase what your means are and

1731
01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 3: then you'll be living that way, you know what I'm saying.

1732
01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 3: So I just I just think that her financial savvy

1733
01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:20,560
Speaker 3: has really led to her sustainability.

1734
01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 4: That's why I sent your Ben Bailey. You know what

1735
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 4: I'm saying, It will always be Bailey. So that's it.

1736
01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:31,960
Speaker 2: Going going to the reunion, one of the topics of

1737
01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:33,519
Speaker 2: discussion was.

1738
01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:37,559
Speaker 1: Stacy.

1739
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:41,320
Speaker 2: You know, they congratulated Stacy on being featured in Fanity Fair.

1740
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 1: Shout out to Stacy for that. In addition to that,

1741
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:48,599
Speaker 1: it was a big conversation of whether or not.

1742
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:53,200
Speaker 2: Stacy is performative because the other ladies think she is.

1743
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:54,879
Speaker 1: The other ladies think.

1744
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:58,360
Speaker 2: She lies, not lies, she fakes her her boys, that

1745
01:26:58,360 --> 01:26:59,640
Speaker 2: that's not who she is.

1746
01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:00,719
Speaker 1: Blue.

1747
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:03,559
Speaker 2: Do you think these ladies are onto something that Stacy's

1748
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 2: performative or do you think these ladies are just jealous

1749
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:09,400
Speaker 2: that Stacy is to break out star and they're trying

1750
01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 2: to find something to dim her life.

1751
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 7: I think they're all performing. She's just better at it.

1752
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:18,400
Speaker 7: So what's the problem If you tried and I succeeded,

1753
01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:21,920
Speaker 7: what's the problem? Well, he love, That's what I think.

1754
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 7: This is a Stacey stand account, so we're gonna keep

1755
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:29,719
Speaker 7: it a buck. And I think Giselle's tone shift shows

1756
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:31,240
Speaker 7: the group chat to say, we gotta lay off of

1757
01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 7: Stacy before they all turn on us. Giselle made it

1758
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 7: clear in the way that her voice is changed towards

1759
01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 7: Stacy that she's realizing that she's gonna lose the audience.

1760
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 7: Not too fucking sorry, not too much on Stacy. And

1761
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:47,800
Speaker 7: also Tia. Honestly, TIA's fall from Grace for me has

1762
01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 7: been stunning for me because I really was team Stacy

1763
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:53,519
Speaker 7: and team Tia. And Tia keeps being concerned about things

1764
01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 7: that have nothing to do with her because nothing has

1765
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:57,320
Speaker 7: anything to do with her, and that's part of her problem.

1766
01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:03,000
Speaker 7: Give you some business? Why did you Samuel's penis, did

1767
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:08,840
Speaker 7: you some business? You're not even involved? Damn miss anything.

1768
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 1: Friends, Claudia Dustin.

1769
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:16,880
Speaker 5: How are you gonna complain about someone that's on an

1770
01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:20,320
Speaker 5: entertainment a TV show for your entertainment. That's being performative.

1771
01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:25,040
Speaker 5: That's what's keep on the show going. Yeah, she is.

1772
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 5: She is being performed performative and it probably comes off

1773
01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:30,479
Speaker 5: faith to them. It's probably annoying in real life, but

1774
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 5: you are doing a TV show. You know, give it

1775
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:35,040
Speaker 5: work with someone that like kind of annoying, but they

1776
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:36,040
Speaker 5: kind of eat at their job.

1777
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.

1778
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:39,800
Speaker 5: We've all been a cast you're like, hey man, but

1779
01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:42,160
Speaker 5: those antics that are helping viewers come to the show

1780
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:46,280
Speaker 5: and keeping money in my pocket, so maybe shut up. Yeah,

1781
01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:48,360
Speaker 5: I mean it seems like they probably don't hang with

1782
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:50,599
Speaker 5: her in real life anyways, So let her be performative

1783
01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:54,120
Speaker 5: during the four months that y'all work together, get your money,

1784
01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:55,280
Speaker 5: and yeah, I blew.

1785
01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:55,760
Speaker 6: You're right.

1786
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:58,960
Speaker 5: She's great at it an angel and some of the

1787
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:02,439
Speaker 5: others t I like her too, can take them take a.

1788
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:05,840
Speaker 6: Page from her from her notebook. Yeah, okay, because it's working.

1789
01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:07,599
Speaker 6: It's working.

1790
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:12,160
Speaker 7: Take notes, stop taking jobs and take notes instead that part.

1791
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, justin Do.

1792
01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:19,479
Speaker 2: You agree with Andy Cohen when he gave Stacy the

1793
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:22,840
Speaker 2: morning that sometimes when the Housewives are gassed up by

1794
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 2: the fan, it goes to their head.

1795
01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:29,559
Speaker 1: Do you think Stacy has that faith?

1796
01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 4: Yes?

1797
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:33,600
Speaker 3: I do agree with what Andy said, And no, I

1798
01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:36,759
Speaker 3: don't think Stacey has that fate at all. Because Stacey

1799
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:39,360
Speaker 3: is a Let's not forget that the Real Housewives, the

1800
01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:43,639
Speaker 3: cast members on those shows, they're television personalities right by

1801
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:48,400
Speaker 3: by definition, her personality is what has moved her to

1802
01:29:48,439 --> 01:29:51,400
Speaker 3: the front of the line. She's got a great personality

1803
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:55,000
Speaker 3: that once you understand it your first of when you

1804
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:58,400
Speaker 3: encounter her on television in that space, you're intrigued.

1805
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:01,719
Speaker 4: You're like, what is going on on here? What's she about?

1806
01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:03,800
Speaker 4: You want to know more? And once you see her

1807
01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:08,519
Speaker 4: more and you become more attracted to her personality, it

1808
01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:10,920
Speaker 4: just wins. I mean, you can't get mad at the

1809
01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:14,200
Speaker 4: woman for winning and doing well at her job. To me,

1810
01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:17,599
Speaker 4: if you're on that show, you would love to have

1811
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:20,320
Speaker 4: a person like her be your cast member because that

1812
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:22,720
Speaker 4: ensures that the show is going to be successful, and

1813
01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 4: that's what you should want. You should want the show

1814
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:28,400
Speaker 4: to be full of dynamic personalities that all on contribute

1815
01:30:28,720 --> 01:30:32,200
Speaker 4: to the pot continuing to boil on the stove. Okay,

1816
01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:35,679
Speaker 4: and so I don't know where this hating ass rhetoric

1817
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:37,760
Speaker 4: came from. Is she fake? Is she not fake?

1818
01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:41,080
Speaker 3: Much like your girl, Johncelene said, Carlos, get with the

1819
01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:44,080
Speaker 3: winning team, hole, that's what you're doing, you know what

1820
01:30:44,160 --> 01:30:47,920
Speaker 3: I'm saying, And understand that what she's doing is good

1821
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:50,760
Speaker 3: for that show and that that show sustaining is good

1822
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:51,160
Speaker 3: for you.

1823
01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:54,920
Speaker 4: Stop hating. I'm trying to say her breath stinks.

1824
01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:57,720
Speaker 3: Stop trying to call her fake when really, when you

1825
01:30:57,720 --> 01:30:59,720
Speaker 3: want to talk about fake and its Tya is the

1826
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:04,320
Speaker 3: one who literally in her confessional whatever episode that was

1827
01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:08,160
Speaker 3: when she went to see Arabella and Timo at the

1828
01:31:08,320 --> 01:31:14,200
Speaker 3: swim lesson for Arabella, right, Tia was talking about I'm

1829
01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:16,960
Speaker 3: Sherlock Holmes and all this other shit. So you went

1830
01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:20,599
Speaker 3: looking to be messy, and that's the difference. Stacey has

1831
01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:23,439
Speaker 3: just been being herself whatever you want to call it,

1832
01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:27,840
Speaker 3: and navigating the waters of them throwing things at her constantly,

1833
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:30,880
Speaker 3: and she's winning at it. Don't hate on that. Get

1834
01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:33,320
Speaker 3: with the winning team. You see what Wendy did. Wendy said,

1835
01:31:35,080 --> 01:31:37,160
Speaker 3: she made that face. Angel said, she made.

1836
01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:43,800
Speaker 4: You get all that. I'm a roll with Stacy on

1837
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:44,280
Speaker 4: this one.

1838
01:31:44,680 --> 01:31:48,040
Speaker 3: Stop hating and let people when people are good, that's

1839
01:31:48,160 --> 01:31:51,040
Speaker 3: good for what you're a part of. Stop be aspiring

1840
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:53,759
Speaker 3: your own right, not at the expense of being better

1841
01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:56,560
Speaker 3: than somebody else. As soon as y'all let that competition

1842
01:31:56,600 --> 01:31:58,599
Speaker 3: shit go, y'all motherfuckers will go a lot further.

1843
01:31:58,760 --> 01:32:01,000
Speaker 5: So I see you go to the super Bowl and

1844
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:02,719
Speaker 5: you're not the quarterback, but you got a good quarterback.

1845
01:32:02,760 --> 01:32:04,280
Speaker 6: You should be happy because you get a ring too.

1846
01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:09,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, quarterback, the team is more than one player on

1847
01:32:09,080 --> 01:32:12,480
Speaker 3: the team. The team needs everybody, not just a quarterback.

1848
01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:15,960
Speaker 3: So like or or or else, you know what, training

1849
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:18,160
Speaker 3: to be a motherfucking quarterback, and go for that position

1850
01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:20,200
Speaker 3: when you join the damn team if that's what you want.

1851
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:22,360
Speaker 3: But don't hate on the quarterback because they get it

1852
01:32:22,439 --> 01:32:23,400
Speaker 3: to what they do.

1853
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:27,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's funny because listen, I like Tea on

1854
01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:29,000
Speaker 1: the show. I will say.

1855
01:32:29,439 --> 01:32:32,240
Speaker 4: I don't say that. I appreciate.

1856
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:36,720
Speaker 3: Her family is beautiful and I love hearing her talk.

1857
01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:40,840
Speaker 3: I love her accent, but boring brought nothing to the

1858
01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:44,320
Speaker 3: show to me, I didn't see no connection really to

1859
01:32:44,360 --> 01:32:45,240
Speaker 3: the other ladies.

1860
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:50,879
Speaker 4: A bunch of ass.

1861
01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:51,360
Speaker 1: I think.

1862
01:32:52,040 --> 01:32:56,200
Speaker 2: I think Tea started off good, but it went down

1863
01:32:56,240 --> 01:32:57,160
Speaker 2: here down hill.

1864
01:32:57,200 --> 01:32:59,759
Speaker 1: Excuse me and listen. I'm with Stacey.

1865
01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:04,760
Speaker 2: Stacey said that Tia clocked in and gather information to

1866
01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:08,040
Speaker 2: take it back to her master, being Gizelle.

1867
01:33:09,200 --> 01:33:11,840
Speaker 1: The Stacey ate Tia up.

1868
01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:15,320
Speaker 2: Hey, listen, Stacy, I'm not gonna say the word master,

1869
01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:19,800
Speaker 2: but listen, she definitely reports back to her boss which

1870
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:24,400
Speaker 2: is which is Gazelle and Stacey clocked it, and I

1871
01:33:24,439 --> 01:33:28,880
Speaker 2: think Tia Tia lost me because I think this watching

1872
01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:32,760
Speaker 2: the show, I think I think Tia was trying to

1873
01:33:32,960 --> 01:33:36,360
Speaker 2: get to chummy with Gazelle and she didn't clock her

1874
01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:36,679
Speaker 2: for that.

1875
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:37,840
Speaker 1: And that's why I.

1876
01:33:37,800 --> 01:33:40,679
Speaker 2: Did enjoy when Wendy and Angel had their back and forth,

1877
01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:44,640
Speaker 2: because Wendy addressed things that we saw with Angel, like

1878
01:33:45,280 --> 01:33:47,360
Speaker 2: Gizelle called you cafish, But.

1879
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:51,760
Speaker 1: When when when when Wendy said you.

1880
01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:55,600
Speaker 2: Did not go after Gizelle because you wanted her to

1881
01:33:55,600 --> 01:33:59,280
Speaker 2: be your big sister, and Angel did not deny it.

1882
01:33:58,840 --> 01:34:01,839
Speaker 6: But we did down play because then they played.

1883
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:03,920
Speaker 5: The clip back when Ashley brought the cat fish, she

1884
01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:05,280
Speaker 5: put a lot of extra on it.

1885
01:34:05,439 --> 01:34:07,600
Speaker 6: Uh As brought the catfish.

1886
01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:14,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, different, I did that, I get.

1887
01:34:15,120 --> 01:34:16,960
Speaker 5: But let's iact like she didn't put a little salt,

1888
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:18,680
Speaker 5: little salt on it as well, That's what.

1889
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:21,160
Speaker 1: I'm She's got to put salt on it. But I

1890
01:34:21,200 --> 01:34:23,240
Speaker 1: think the problem was, you.

1891
01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:26,720
Speaker 2: Know, listen, we all was confused why Angel has so

1892
01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:29,599
Speaker 2: much smoke from Winded not Giselle, And listen, we can

1893
01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:30,599
Speaker 2: I've said this before.

1894
01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:31,559
Speaker 1: Everyone sees it.

1895
01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:34,479
Speaker 2: A lot of these girls want to be Grazil's friend.

1896
01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:40,000
Speaker 2: It is what it is, and that's fine. Speaking of

1897
01:34:40,160 --> 01:34:45,599
Speaker 2: Angel and Angel's president, she did say that they purchased

1898
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:48,519
Speaker 2: a home in Potomac. Ashley tried to ask a question,

1899
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:52,520
Speaker 2: and Angel told Ashley if she lived in Potomac area.

1900
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:59,720
Speaker 1: She would know, which I thought, No, Blue, that give

1901
01:34:59,760 --> 01:35:00,639
Speaker 1: me a an thump.

1902
01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:05,400
Speaker 7: Didn't you just get evicted from Airbnb and Potomac? How

1903
01:35:05,479 --> 01:35:11,080
Speaker 7: quickly we forget somebody who got evicted from Potomac?

1904
01:35:11,800 --> 01:35:13,600
Speaker 4: She did not get evicted.

1905
01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:19,720
Speaker 7: Sorry, who was displaced in Potomac?

1906
01:35:20,240 --> 01:35:22,720
Speaker 6: Wait, that sounds like a hurricane victim displaced?

1907
01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:26,840
Speaker 7: She was displaced twenty four hours to evacuate. Shout out

1908
01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:29,840
Speaker 7: to Mia. So I'm just saying, maybe just read the

1909
01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:32,559
Speaker 7: room a little bit, friend, that you just got into

1910
01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:35,040
Speaker 7: the club, you just got in here. I'm not an

1911
01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:37,200
Speaker 7: Ashley apologis, you know, I don't. I don't go for Ashley,

1912
01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:39,599
Speaker 7: but y'all gonna make me say something nice about that lady.

1913
01:35:40,479 --> 01:35:45,200
Speaker 7: I just think that Angel, much like Tiya, will just

1914
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:48,320
Speaker 7: go to whoever she thinks it's the weakest link. Tia

1915
01:35:48,400 --> 01:35:51,360
Speaker 7: misidentified Stacy's the weakest link and ended up tussling with

1916
01:35:51,400 --> 01:35:54,960
Speaker 7: America's fame awkward, huh, learn from that. I think now

1917
01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:57,559
Speaker 7: that she realizes that she can't do anything to Weddy

1918
01:35:58,120 --> 01:35:59,800
Speaker 7: because the forest whit of car eye that she keeps

1919
01:35:59,840 --> 01:36:02,000
Speaker 7: doing and thinking it's gonna we're gonna laugh, We're not laughing.

1920
01:36:02,040 --> 01:36:04,479
Speaker 7: We didn't laugh into James L. Jones like, it's still

1921
01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:07,599
Speaker 7: not funny, friends. And I like that Wendy said there's

1922
01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:10,320
Speaker 7: more to that because there are some racial undertones in

1923
01:36:10,360 --> 01:36:13,800
Speaker 7: that that are impossible to ignore. I like that Wendy

1924
01:36:13,880 --> 01:36:15,160
Speaker 7: so showed her a little bit of grace by saying,

1925
01:36:15,160 --> 01:36:16,599
Speaker 7: this is more to that, but thank you for acknowledging

1926
01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:17,520
Speaker 7: it and apologizing.

1927
01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:17,760
Speaker 1: Right.

1928
01:36:18,439 --> 01:36:20,880
Speaker 7: I do think that she's now recognizing that Ashley is

1929
01:36:20,880 --> 01:36:22,680
Speaker 7: lower on the totem pole, and so it actually has

1930
01:36:22,680 --> 01:36:25,240
Speaker 7: now become the new victim. There's something weak, sauce that

1931
01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:27,080
Speaker 7: you have smoke for whoever you think is below you.

1932
01:36:27,479 --> 01:36:30,160
Speaker 7: There's something weak about that. Universally to me, she hasn't

1933
01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:32,479
Speaker 7: learned her lesson actually is the new victim.

1934
01:36:32,320 --> 01:36:36,599
Speaker 5: Now, and that Forrest Whittaker reed was so weak because

1935
01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:40,240
Speaker 5: that his eye don't do that, his eyes don't go.

1936
01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:42,960
Speaker 6: One is open and one is half mad.

1937
01:36:43,160 --> 01:36:44,679
Speaker 7: Oh Claudia, I'm not sure.

1938
01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:46,080
Speaker 6: Oh it's true.

1939
01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:48,479
Speaker 5: One eyes like sleepy and they're like, Wendy, don't make

1940
01:36:48,520 --> 01:36:50,400
Speaker 5: that face like it wasn't even a good read.

1941
01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:54,479
Speaker 6: It wasn't. I like accuracy in reading. It should be

1942
01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:54,960
Speaker 6: like that.

1943
01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:58,240
Speaker 1: Didn't listen, I will talk. I won't give this Qualitia

1944
01:36:58,400 --> 01:37:00,439
Speaker 1: love a read that has a truth.

1945
01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:03,240
Speaker 7: James ol Jones was very accurate, because now I can't

1946
01:37:03,439 --> 01:37:03,880
Speaker 7: see it.

1947
01:37:04,280 --> 01:37:07,000
Speaker 6: Right, because that was that was fun shape.

1948
01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:10,760
Speaker 2: The thing about the Jake Jones for to be, I

1949
01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:15,760
Speaker 2: thought it was fun Housewives shade on both ends. I

1950
01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:18,960
Speaker 2: just thought, like like the I thought it was fun.

1951
01:37:19,200 --> 01:37:21,080
Speaker 1: I thought it was funny. I thought they both gave

1952
01:37:21,120 --> 01:37:21,599
Speaker 1: a little.

1953
01:37:21,439 --> 01:37:25,360
Speaker 6: Dig said with a straight I like how when he

1954
01:37:25,439 --> 01:37:25,920
Speaker 6: delivered it.

1955
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:27,840
Speaker 5: She goes, Now, if I like when people do this

1956
01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:30,519
Speaker 5: kind of shame, Yeah, well, if.

1957
01:37:30,360 --> 01:37:34,439
Speaker 6: I was to call you, James L. Jones, you just did.

1958
01:37:34,439 --> 01:37:35,000
Speaker 7: You just did.

1959
01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:37,200
Speaker 6: I like that kind of shade though.

1960
01:37:37,240 --> 01:37:37,680
Speaker 1: I like that.

1961
01:37:37,840 --> 01:37:40,000
Speaker 6: It's like, you know, I'm playing in your face on purpose.

1962
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:40,479
Speaker 6: Right now?

1963
01:37:41,360 --> 01:37:44,400
Speaker 7: Do we think that Gazelle has now a newfound respect

1964
01:37:44,479 --> 01:37:46,320
Speaker 7: for because the one thing I would give Gazelle and

1965
01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:49,080
Speaker 7: I don't give her much, is that Gazelle respects the

1966
01:37:49,200 --> 01:37:53,320
Speaker 7: craft of being a provocateur for the sake of content.

1967
01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:56,559
Speaker 7: Do you think that now that Gazelle has panned back

1968
01:37:56,680 --> 01:38:00,960
Speaker 7: from her minions to see how well Stacy's being received,

1969
01:38:01,439 --> 01:38:06,720
Speaker 7: that she'll extend the wobbly olive brands to Stacy that

1970
01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:09,040
Speaker 7: she extended to Wendy, that she'll be like, Oh, I'm

1971
01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:11,000
Speaker 7: gonna stop picking on you because you've earned your stripes.

1972
01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:13,040
Speaker 7: Do we think that's gonna happen next season?

1973
01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:16,000
Speaker 6: Mm hmm, because it feels.

1974
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:18,120
Speaker 7: Like if the audience likes somebody, she suddenly leaves them alone.

1975
01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:20,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the playbooks.

1976
01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:23,840
Speaker 3: It's been the same repetitive playbook with everybody that's come

1977
01:38:23,880 --> 01:38:26,960
Speaker 3: on to the show, just like how she's friendly with

1978
01:38:27,040 --> 01:38:30,120
Speaker 3: Monique now after they went through some really tough times

1979
01:38:30,120 --> 01:38:33,479
Speaker 3: on the show, because Gizelle knows that she has to

1980
01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:35,320
Speaker 3: do and do that in order for the cast to

1981
01:38:35,400 --> 01:38:39,160
Speaker 3: make sense and be cohesive. It just doesn't end well

1982
01:38:39,160 --> 01:38:41,000
Speaker 3: when you refuse to fill with people and all that

1983
01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:42,680
Speaker 3: other shit. So of course she don't go along to

1984
01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:45,280
Speaker 3: get along as she should. That means she's being good

1985
01:38:45,280 --> 01:38:45,880
Speaker 3: at her job.

1986
01:38:46,120 --> 01:38:47,960
Speaker 2: That's a house and I took that as what you

1987
01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:50,000
Speaker 2: guys were saying earlier being the quarterback.

1988
01:38:50,040 --> 01:38:53,160
Speaker 1: I think Gazelle bath on what I've seen.

1989
01:38:53,200 --> 01:38:57,120
Speaker 2: I think Gazelle wants every girl to earn their flute,

1990
01:38:57,680 --> 01:39:03,000
Speaker 2: and I think she sees Stacy as a formidable opponent

1991
01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:05,679
Speaker 2: and somebody who deserves to be on the stage.

1992
01:39:05,760 --> 01:39:07,840
Speaker 1: I do see that.

1993
01:39:08,200 --> 01:39:09,840
Speaker 2: One thing I wanted to ask you guys about if

1994
01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:11,599
Speaker 2: you guys saw this, A lot of people on social

1995
01:39:11,640 --> 01:39:14,519
Speaker 2: media were questioning Gizelle and Wendy.

1996
01:39:15,560 --> 01:39:17,640
Speaker 1: Gizelle's comment towards Wendy.

1997
01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:22,040
Speaker 2: You know, the questioning of the of the arrest, talking

1998
01:39:22,040 --> 01:39:26,000
Speaker 2: about her wig being bad. Did you guys feel that

1999
01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:31,840
Speaker 2: that Gizelle was being messy or inappropriate for the sort

2000
01:39:31,880 --> 01:39:35,400
Speaker 2: of like statement she was making towards Wendy as Wendy

2001
01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:37,360
Speaker 2: was talking about the arrest.

2002
01:39:38,240 --> 01:39:39,920
Speaker 5: It's kind of been like how she's been doing the

2003
01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:41,960
Speaker 5: whole season, like she's just she's supposed.

2004
01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:44,120
Speaker 6: To stir it up. She liked. I guess she felt

2005
01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:44,880
Speaker 6: she was lighting the mood.

2006
01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:48,160
Speaker 5: Yes, it was shady talking about her wig, but it's again,

2007
01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:51,120
Speaker 5: it's a reality show reunion, So I think she's doing

2008
01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:52,120
Speaker 5: what she's paid for.

2009
01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:55,240
Speaker 6: She's doing she's paid She's not Gazelle's.

2010
01:39:54,800 --> 01:39:56,360
Speaker 5: Not gonna sit there and let a moment go by

2011
01:39:56,439 --> 01:39:58,120
Speaker 5: what she can get one in and just be.

2012
01:39:58,160 --> 01:40:01,400
Speaker 6: Like, oh, it must have been tough for you. She's

2013
01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:04,120
Speaker 6: gonna be like, let's talk about that wig was the wig?

2014
01:40:04,920 --> 01:40:05,599
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what.

2015
01:40:05,560 --> 01:40:06,120
Speaker 6: She's paid to do.

2016
01:40:06,240 --> 01:40:08,720
Speaker 5: I think, you know, I don't think it's deeper than that.

2017
01:40:08,800 --> 01:40:10,320
Speaker 5: I think that's what she's just pay to do. She

2018
01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:13,360
Speaker 5: she's gotten really good at it too. She's gotten really

2019
01:40:13,400 --> 01:40:15,559
Speaker 5: she's not letting a mama go bye because she I

2020
01:40:15,560 --> 01:40:18,439
Speaker 5: feel like more than anyone, she's like, you know, she's

2021
01:40:18,479 --> 01:40:20,280
Speaker 5: the stakes of high. She wants to keep the show going.

2022
01:40:21,120 --> 01:40:22,840
Speaker 5: I would if I want to show where I you know,

2023
01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:23,240
Speaker 5: I'm the.

2024
01:40:23,240 --> 01:40:23,800
Speaker 7: Star of the lead.

2025
01:40:23,920 --> 01:40:26,680
Speaker 5: Whatever I want to by all means necessary, any means

2026
01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:28,360
Speaker 5: that's say we're keeping the show going. If I gotta

2027
01:40:28,360 --> 01:40:30,559
Speaker 5: be shaded to you in a vulnerable moment because it's

2028
01:40:30,600 --> 01:40:32,439
Speaker 5: making us talk about it, was.

2029
01:40:34,160 --> 01:40:36,360
Speaker 7: It shady to ask about who sold the house to

2030
01:40:37,479 --> 01:40:40,160
Speaker 7: two old girl to Angel? Like they felt like shade

2031
01:40:40,160 --> 01:40:42,960
Speaker 7: towards Tia when they were like, so, Angel, who did

2032
01:40:43,040 --> 01:40:44,840
Speaker 7: TA sell you the house? And Ta's like, I didn't

2033
01:40:44,840 --> 01:40:49,120
Speaker 7: come here to the houses, Georgia.

2034
01:40:49,160 --> 01:40:51,519
Speaker 5: I thought that was a great question because you acting

2035
01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:53,760
Speaker 5: all tight like y'all buddy, buddy, you couldn't even throw

2036
01:40:53,800 --> 01:40:55,800
Speaker 5: your girl a commission in an area that she's an

2037
01:40:55,840 --> 01:40:57,840
Speaker 5: expert in and you went to someone else.

2038
01:40:57,880 --> 01:40:58,920
Speaker 6: I would have thought that.

2039
01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:01,880
Speaker 5: Was a great question, like, oh, y'all newfound bestie's now,

2040
01:41:01,880 --> 01:41:03,240
Speaker 5: but you didn't even use her as a realtor.

2041
01:41:04,320 --> 01:41:06,400
Speaker 6: Yes, I like that. I love that, quay, I liked that.

2042
01:41:06,400 --> 01:41:08,160
Speaker 7: That's felt like the real shape to me, like who, so,

2043
01:41:08,200 --> 01:41:09,479
Speaker 7: who sold you the house? Angel?

2044
01:41:10,120 --> 01:41:13,280
Speaker 5: And then she just went to quickly apologize for her

2045
01:41:13,479 --> 01:41:14,920
Speaker 5: like to make excuses.

2046
01:41:14,920 --> 01:41:16,960
Speaker 6: Well, I didn't come in for friends. I mean, I

2047
01:41:16,960 --> 01:41:18,360
Speaker 6: didn't come in for that. I came in for friends.

2048
01:41:19,479 --> 01:41:21,799
Speaker 6: I'll be mad if you all know I'm the realtor

2049
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:23,640
Speaker 6: in the circle and you use anyone but me.

2050
01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:28,200
Speaker 1: Xpactly when I said about her house in Colorado.

2051
01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:30,120
Speaker 6: Yeah exactly.

2052
01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:31,599
Speaker 7: I wonder what Bobby thought.

2053
01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:36,240
Speaker 2: So at the end of the reunion is when Wendy

2054
01:41:36,680 --> 01:41:43,920
Speaker 2: and Ashley had their spat, Andy read a question from

2055
01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:48,160
Speaker 2: a viewer talking about Ashley was messy this season, talking

2056
01:41:48,160 --> 01:41:52,880
Speaker 2: about how she even commented on Wingne's arrest. Wendy said

2057
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:58,320
Speaker 2: that Ashley has this personal vendetta against her, but she

2058
01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:00,880
Speaker 2: didn't go to too many details on it. And then

2059
01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:04,559
Speaker 2: Wendy made a dig saying that Ashley hasn't accomplished anything

2060
01:42:04,600 --> 01:42:08,880
Speaker 2: in life, and then Ashley retorted, but at least I

2061
01:42:08,960 --> 01:42:12,479
Speaker 2: have one social Security number now.

2062
01:42:12,600 --> 01:42:13,680
Speaker 1: Look.

2063
01:42:13,320 --> 01:42:16,360
Speaker 2: As a fan of reality television and a fan of

2064
01:42:16,360 --> 01:42:19,280
Speaker 2: the girl's going at it, I thought that was.

2065
01:42:19,320 --> 01:42:23,240
Speaker 1: An amazing way of ending department reunion. I thought she

2066
01:42:23,320 --> 01:42:23,960
Speaker 1: got a good one in.

2067
01:42:24,520 --> 01:42:27,160
Speaker 2: I talked about it the weekend, dusted the dragted for

2068
01:42:27,280 --> 01:42:30,920
Speaker 2: on Twitter. I'm like it, listen, actually got one good

2069
01:42:30,920 --> 01:42:33,639
Speaker 2: one in and I thought that was a good read.

2070
01:42:34,080 --> 01:42:38,640
Speaker 1: Towards the end, dust it, do you agree to agree?

2071
01:42:40,200 --> 01:42:43,040
Speaker 4: His face, he's like, I think it was definitive.

2072
01:42:44,160 --> 01:42:46,040
Speaker 3: I felt like he drew a line in the sand

2073
01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:49,920
Speaker 3: between her and Wendy because now you're insulting me based

2074
01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:52,639
Speaker 3: on my court case shit that you know is really

2075
01:42:52,800 --> 01:42:54,680
Speaker 3: really fucked up for me right now, you know what

2076
01:42:54,720 --> 01:42:57,120
Speaker 3: I'm saying, And that's a low blow essentially, which I'm

2077
01:42:57,120 --> 01:42:59,040
Speaker 3: not mad at. Take them take the low blows as

2078
01:42:59,080 --> 01:43:01,880
Speaker 3: the housewives and y'all don't have to be friends nor

2079
01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:04,680
Speaker 3: get along, so I'm fine with it, but I just

2080
01:43:04,720 --> 01:43:08,759
Speaker 3: don't again, you know, I'm pretty quick on my feet,

2081
01:43:09,200 --> 01:43:11,760
Speaker 3: and I just saw a window of opportunity. As soon

2082
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:14,719
Speaker 3: as she said she only had one social Security number,

2083
01:43:15,040 --> 01:43:16,960
Speaker 3: there was a play. There was a way to call

2084
01:43:17,040 --> 01:43:18,479
Speaker 3: back to that. I'll just put it like.

2085
01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:19,880
Speaker 7: That, what was it? I want to hear it.

2086
01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:24,960
Speaker 4: Figured it out on your own, out giving it away

2087
01:43:25,000 --> 01:43:26,920
Speaker 4: for free. Figure it out on your own.

2088
01:43:27,120 --> 01:43:29,800
Speaker 3: Y'all want to pay me to come help y'all, I will,

2089
01:43:29,880 --> 01:43:31,719
Speaker 3: But other than that, I'm keeping it to myself.

2090
01:43:31,760 --> 01:43:34,400
Speaker 4: But just no, I'll text you later, Blue, But just.

2091
01:43:34,400 --> 01:43:39,559
Speaker 3: No, there's a way that you could have easily packed

2092
01:43:39,600 --> 01:43:41,240
Speaker 3: actually up so quick right there.

2093
01:43:41,320 --> 01:43:43,559
Speaker 4: So then she brought up that social Security number and.

2094
01:43:43,520 --> 01:43:46,160
Speaker 3: I was like, damn, when y'all even trying, y'all just

2095
01:43:46,240 --> 01:43:49,479
Speaker 3: letting them fly right by missing all this ship that's

2096
01:43:49,560 --> 01:43:51,479
Speaker 3: literally being thrown right into your palm.

2097
01:43:51,960 --> 01:43:56,320
Speaker 7: So whatever, she confirmed Wendy's suspicions to me. I think

2098
01:43:56,400 --> 01:43:58,960
Speaker 7: when Wendy says, I've heard that you had a vendetta

2099
01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:02,280
Speaker 7: against me, and Ashley says, I don't have a vendetta.

2100
01:44:02,360 --> 01:44:04,439
Speaker 7: I just don't throw my accomplishments in people's faces. And

2101
01:44:04,439 --> 01:44:06,160
Speaker 7: when they said, but you ain't got no accomplishments to

2102
01:44:06,160 --> 01:44:09,240
Speaker 7: throw nobody's face. Oh, I sat up. I was like,

2103
01:44:09,280 --> 01:44:15,840
Speaker 7: we could me stopching? So I'm thinking, oh, this is

2104
01:44:15,880 --> 01:44:18,680
Speaker 7: a nice little spar let's see what happens, right, And

2105
01:44:18,720 --> 01:44:22,960
Speaker 7: then Ashley said, well I only have security number. I said, well,

2106
01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:25,880
Speaker 7: that was good, that was cute for you, And also

2107
01:44:25,960 --> 01:44:28,720
Speaker 7: you just proved her point that, unlike Giselle, who's at

2108
01:44:28,760 --> 01:44:31,280
Speaker 7: least trying to feign a little bit of friendship or care,

2109
01:44:31,800 --> 01:44:34,720
Speaker 7: you sincerely feel a way about this lady and her

2110
01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:35,280
Speaker 7: husband and.

2111
01:44:35,200 --> 01:44:37,519
Speaker 1: Their eight degrees baby.

2112
01:44:37,560 --> 01:44:40,680
Speaker 7: Did the whole montage showing Ashley's hate in pictures right

2113
01:44:40,680 --> 01:44:42,960
Speaker 7: shout out to the producers. So I do think that

2114
01:44:43,040 --> 01:44:46,519
Speaker 7: Ashley feels a way about the fact that she is

2115
01:44:46,640 --> 01:44:49,120
Speaker 7: disappearing into the frame, like she actually is becoming a

2116
01:44:49,120 --> 01:44:50,000
Speaker 7: ghost in the machine.

2117
01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:52,320
Speaker 4: I don't think so, you think so.

2118
01:44:53,320 --> 01:44:55,839
Speaker 7: I think that Ashley is used to being an a character,

2119
01:44:55,880 --> 01:44:57,680
Speaker 7: and she's been a b character for a couple of

2120
01:44:57,720 --> 01:45:00,599
Speaker 7: years now because Michael Darby is the best and worst

2121
01:45:00,640 --> 01:45:02,639
Speaker 7: thing that ever happened to her, and now that he's

2122
01:45:02,680 --> 01:45:06,120
Speaker 7: off somewhere allegedly grabbing things consensually, she doesn't have as

2123
01:45:06,160 --> 01:45:06,519
Speaker 7: much of.

2124
01:45:06,439 --> 01:45:12,320
Speaker 1: A I actually agree I think, listen, this is it.

2125
01:45:12,840 --> 01:45:15,400
Speaker 2: I think Ashley is a necessary evil and no I'm

2126
01:45:15,400 --> 01:45:16,280
Speaker 2: not calling her evil.

2127
01:45:16,920 --> 01:45:21,360
Speaker 1: I think I the challenge with Ashley is this.

2128
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:25,799
Speaker 2: I think Ashley started off the show with Michael Darby

2129
01:45:25,800 --> 01:45:26,839
Speaker 2: and Gables great content.

2130
01:45:27,320 --> 01:45:29,439
Speaker 1: She when when.

2131
01:45:29,680 --> 01:45:34,879
Speaker 2: Robin Dixon checked her at her Australian restaurant and Ashley

2132
01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:38,960
Speaker 2: put t as took it and barked back. I do

2133
01:45:39,040 --> 01:45:41,799
Speaker 2: think for the past I would say two to three seasons,

2134
01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:47,479
Speaker 2: Ashley definitely has fallen to the wayside. And I think

2135
01:45:47,560 --> 01:45:51,320
Speaker 2: it's because Ashley has nothing else to do but to

2136
01:45:51,320 --> 01:45:55,200
Speaker 2: be messy. And that's why when Candace hat Traders, when

2137
01:45:55,320 --> 01:45:59,559
Speaker 2: Candace said you brought your ass here, I think she

2138
01:45:59,560 --> 01:46:03,880
Speaker 2: said post part of Richard leaked breast to deliver a

2139
01:46:04,040 --> 01:46:07,559
Speaker 2: nasty rumor about Eddie to Wendy, and then you went

2140
01:46:07,640 --> 01:46:10,400
Speaker 2: back home. I think Ashley knew she had to be

2141
01:46:10,680 --> 01:46:12,760
Speaker 2: a part of the mess to keep herself alive on

2142
01:46:12,800 --> 01:46:15,120
Speaker 2: the show. But I will say this for them to

2143
01:46:15,160 --> 01:46:20,000
Speaker 2: celebrate their ten seasons, I definitely think Ashley isn't who

2144
01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:23,080
Speaker 2: she started out with the show to be m I

2145
01:46:23,080 --> 01:46:26,840
Speaker 2: think something very strong, but I think Stacy so big

2146
01:46:27,000 --> 01:46:28,320
Speaker 2: Wendy's you know.

2147
01:46:30,280 --> 01:46:34,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, to be fair, they're not gonna be nasty though,

2148
01:46:34,600 --> 01:46:37,680
Speaker 3: like Ashley will. And so there is something to be

2149
01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:41,320
Speaker 3: said for her contributing that villain role, you know what

2150
01:46:41,400 --> 01:46:44,240
Speaker 3: I'm saying to the show, And if she leans into that,

2151
01:46:44,680 --> 01:46:47,920
Speaker 3: maybe there's some some sustainability there for her. Just be

2152
01:46:48,080 --> 01:46:50,760
Speaker 3: the full villain. Fuck it, live in your villain era,

2153
01:46:50,960 --> 01:46:52,920
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Maybe that's what she should

2154
01:46:52,960 --> 01:46:56,439
Speaker 3: do because no one else is really playing that role

2155
01:46:57,320 --> 01:47:01,759
Speaker 3: on the show. Nobody's just like a sharp, edgy villain.

2156
01:47:01,880 --> 01:47:03,000
Speaker 3: So maybe she can do that.

2157
01:47:04,600 --> 01:47:06,320
Speaker 4: I think I think she's.

2158
01:47:06,720 --> 01:47:07,320
Speaker 6: Good for it.

2159
01:47:07,400 --> 01:47:09,320
Speaker 5: I mean, she's a little shit starter again, we can

2160
01:47:09,400 --> 01:47:13,000
Speaker 5: they cannot be calm then Cynthia Bailey's on the show, right,

2161
01:47:13,040 --> 01:47:17,160
Speaker 5: you gotta have the firecrackers, the people that people are

2162
01:47:17,240 --> 01:47:20,640
Speaker 5: annoyed with. Makes a good cast. They don't have to

2163
01:47:20,720 --> 01:47:22,960
Speaker 5: all be likable people. I think she's necessary for the

2164
01:47:23,000 --> 01:47:23,800
Speaker 5: show for what she does.

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Speaker 6: She's stirring the park.

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Speaker 5: And you gotta have some some ridiculousness on the show,

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Speaker 5: you know, or doing like it's something for us to

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Speaker 5: talk about what you really was really making out with

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Speaker 5: a friend's son what like in real life? I don't

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Speaker 5: want that my real life, but I definitely want that

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Speaker 5: in my reality shows that I watch I do, and

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Speaker 5: she she I think she ate with that comment, And

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Speaker 5: it wasn't just like you know, listen if someone diminishing

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Speaker 5: your entire existence and saying you've accomplished nothing that deserves

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Speaker 5: a personal clap back. I'm not mad at I think

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Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to part too next week.

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Speaker 6: I want to see what I.

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Speaker 7: Will let Angel talk next week week, because what was

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Speaker 7: that about?

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Speaker 4: Angel wasn't talking about Ship.

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Speaker 7: But Kate asked, like she's still chin checking her, like

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Speaker 7: the chin checking has not left the room. Why did

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Speaker 7: you chin chucking.

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Speaker 5: Like that?

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Speaker 3: When she said what is this? I don't think she

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Speaker 3: was telling Angel to shut up? I think she was

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Speaker 3: talking to Angel like why does she keep? Why is

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Speaker 3: she she? That was that was she was talking to

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Speaker 3: Angel as a friend at that moment, like what is this?

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Speaker 3: Like why is she still talking type ship? That was

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Speaker 3: her speaking to her like that, not saying.

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Speaker 4: What is this?

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Speaker 3: Why are you talking over me? You hear me trying

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Speaker 3: to talk. That was her being like, girl, look at her,

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Speaker 3: what is this?

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Speaker 7: But when Mandy said, let your friend answer my question,

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Speaker 7: we're actually having a good moment of clarity. Yeah, she said,

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Speaker 7: but I'm talking though, and Angel said, yes, her talk.

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Speaker 3: Because director at Wendy that wasn't directed towards Angel and answer.

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Speaker 3: That's why Angel was like, no, are you right, I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna go in this finish after she finished saying what

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Speaker 3: she has to say. That wasn't Keana being nasty with

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Speaker 3: Keana already has RBF. You know what I'm saying, So

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Speaker 3: she looks meaner than she is, which is but she

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Speaker 3: was talking to Angel like in the spirit of caaraderie,

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Speaker 3: not telling her to shut up and let me talk.

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Speaker 4: Like two people took it.

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Speaker 3: It's easy to misinterpret it because there was a lot

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Speaker 3: going on and everybody was talking at the same time.

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Speaker 3: But I watched it multiple times. She was not telling

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Speaker 3: Angel to be quiet.

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Speaker 4: She was talking about tearing that.

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Speaker 7: Up because at the moment I was just like, why

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Speaker 7: why does your RBF? Why is it so sharp? Angel?

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Speaker 7: And plus Angel plays victim. So when you have somebody

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Speaker 7: who talks like Ike Turner and somebody who asks like Pikachu,

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Speaker 7: it immediately makes things for weird.

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Speaker 4: Paints a picture. It paints a picture immediately.

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Speaker 2: I won't say this I enjoyed the reu Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 2: looking forward to two more parts. But listen, I thought

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Speaker 2: it was a great comeback for Ashlete personally, think.

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Speaker 1: The Only Tide.

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Speaker 4: I thought it was too Don't make no mistake.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was a perfect clad back from from

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Speaker 3: I just would have tore our ass up after that

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Speaker 3: if it was me.

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Speaker 6: That's me cover from a gag. A gagging is what

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Speaker 6: Wendy told us.

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Speaker 5: Basically, your life ancient to be able to be like

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Speaker 5: have something after that is that's that's that's good.

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Speaker 6: It's good work. But now we're going to see next

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Speaker 6: week we're winning.

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Speaker 2: You should you should dodge read you and Justin because

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Speaker 2: he does replaces over four times.

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Speaker 7: Yeah read that.

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Speaker 5: Only we knew a producer that could produce that shows

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01:50:39,000 --> 01:50:40,639
Speaker 5: like I don't know if I if I knew someone

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Speaker 5: that maybe could put that together.

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Speaker 4: Jnybody looking right now game.

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Speaker 6: If only we knew one of the top producers, he said,

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Speaker 6: you're looking at the nigga right now.

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Speaker 7: Damn, we would trying to be subtle everything they're talking

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01:50:59,560 --> 01:50:59,960
Speaker 7: about big.

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Speaker 1: I love you guys, leave you alone anyway.

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Speaker 6: Carlos is mona h Scott right move got young then.

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Speaker 1: You and your husband check your emails. Okay, so ray job.

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01:51:21,840 --> 01:51:23,960
Speaker 1: Let us know who you think did the best job

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01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:24,679
Speaker 1: after reunion.

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Speaker 2: All right, Rain John's love you all. Will see you

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Speaker 2: guys on next Monday.

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Speaker 6: Bye bye bye.

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Speaker 2: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,

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Speaker 2: produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership.

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Speaker 1: With the Lack Effect Network.

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Speaker 2: You can also find us on my YouTube channel at

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Speaker 2: the Carlos King Underscore