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Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you.
Speaker 2: Father Sebastian has been very active in the vampire subculture
Speaker 2: since nineteen ninety two. He is a master Fanksmith, published author,
Speaker 2: has appeared on The Travel Channel's Ghost Adventures, the History Channel,
Speaker 2: The Discovery and MTV as well and our program numerous times.
Speaker 2: Father Sebastian, back on Coast to Coast, Father, welcome.
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me, George.
Speaker 2: Have you been You ready for Thanksgiving?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: I'm ready, ready and ready more.
Speaker 3: I'm going to be going to Vegas.
Speaker 2: Have a great time.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: What is a Fanksmith? What do you do?
Speaker 4: Thanksmith is a professional dental technician who specializes in making
Speaker 4: custom may bangs. It's kind of a mix of special
Speaker 4: effects artists and dental technicians.
Speaker 2: Is there a market for that.
Speaker 3: There's a huge market for that. But it's all custom
Speaker 3: maze and we make them by hand.
Speaker 4: We call it old school and or analogue where we
Speaker 4: make it like an old dental technician would in a
Speaker 4: dental lab. And now we have three D printing where
Speaker 4: you can go to your dentist and.
Speaker 3: Get a scan of your mouth and will mail you
Speaker 3: your fangs.
Speaker 2: And they just snap right over you glue them.
Speaker 4: Nope, they yes, they snap right in and they're kind
Speaker 4: of a right of passage for everybody getting into the
Speaker 4: vampire culture.
Speaker 2: That culture, is it still growing?
Speaker 4: It is, it's growing quite rapidly, and it's becoming more
Speaker 4: and more paranormal and magical and crossing over with the
Speaker 4: witchcraft community and the paranormal community.
Speaker 2: Is there anything Father Sebastian, about the old vampire folklore
Speaker 2: that does not necessary necessarily happening today.
Speaker 4: Well, slaying vampires isn't something that's very popular these days.
Speaker 4: The vampire lore is so diverse because there's a vampire
Speaker 4: vampire myth in almost every culture. In fact, there's multiple
Speaker 4: vampire myths and every culture. So vampiric beings have been
Speaker 4: in Aztec, Romanian, Russian, Scandinavian, Native American, Asian cultures throughout
Speaker 4: the world. And it's a phenomenon and it's a monster
Speaker 4: that we can all become.
Speaker 2: Well, you've been doing this for thirty plus years. What
Speaker 2: got you into this in the first place?
Speaker 3: A mother?
Speaker 2: Your mother, My.
Speaker 4: Mother was an Ris fan. She introduced me to an
Speaker 4: Riis and I was in the kit I was in
Speaker 4: my kitchen when I was fourteen, and she was like
Speaker 4: telling me Tom Cruise is losing his losing weight to
Speaker 4: become a vampire for a movie called Interview with the Vampire. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and I wanted to see the movie, but it was
Speaker 4: three years before it came out because that.
Speaker 3: Was a very complex movie to make. And when.
Speaker 4: She finally I was old enough, she finally gave me
Speaker 4: the Interview with the Vampire and I hated it. I
Speaker 4: hated an Interview with the Vampire. It was a terrible book.
Speaker 4: And then I read The Vampire.
Speaker 3: Lestat and I fell in love with him.
Speaker 4: And Louis de Pont de Lac, the character main vampire
Speaker 4: being interviewed in an Interview with the Vampire, was a whiny, brady,
Speaker 4: not very fun character. But stat the lion Claw was
Speaker 4: very much a rebel. He embraced being a vampire and
Speaker 4: he sent me as a he said, and I set
Speaker 4: me up as a role model.
Speaker 2: What did you think of the movie.
Speaker 4: Movier's phenomenal Tom Cruise wasn't really my favorite pick for Lestat.
Speaker 4: He did a good job, but I think that Sam
Speaker 4: the guy that plays him in the new TV show
Speaker 4: is much better less.
Speaker 2: That is the vampire lore growing around the world.
Speaker 3: The law is growing.
Speaker 4: Because fiction and fantasy and mythology are compounding on each other.
Speaker 4: The vampire genre that we know is today has been
Speaker 4: in three waves.
Speaker 3: The first wave was.
Speaker 4: Accumulation of all the vampire lore of the Victorian era
Speaker 4: in Dracula, and that set the foundations. And then the
Speaker 4: second phase came along with Anne Rice because her vampires
Speaker 4: were basically atheists and they had a they embraced being vampires.
Speaker 4: And then the excuse me, vampires get sick too. I
Speaker 4: got a little bit of a cold. And then finally,
Speaker 4: Vampire the Master Grade came out in nineteen ninety one,
Speaker 4: which was a role playing game that took all the
Speaker 4: vampire mythologies and wrapped them into one universe, and movies
Speaker 4: like Blade and TV shows like True Blood all kind
Speaker 4: of copied that pattern where they created clans of vampires,
Speaker 4: and each clan of vampires represents a different vampire mythology
Speaker 4: and they're all in the same universe. So what we
Speaker 4: know today is the modern vampire mythos has really started
Speaker 4: in nineteen ninety one with the game Vampire the Mess Grade,
Speaker 4: which was a role playing game that you got to
Speaker 4: address up and play in nightclubs as a vampire.
Speaker 2: Now, before you took on the part of Father Sebastian,
Speaker 2: were you considered a vampire before that.
Speaker 4: I've always been a vampire, but I didn't awaken to
Speaker 4: it in one step. I was aware of it. Probably
Speaker 4: ran nineteen ninety five when I went to New Orleans
Speaker 4: for the first time and I was attending the Anne
Speaker 4: Rice Memnoch Vampire Ball and I had a series of awakenings,
Speaker 4: but I really didn't understand what my nature was until
Speaker 4: about nineteen ninety seven when I was able to interact
Speaker 4: with some other vampires that were awakened. Because we kind
Speaker 4: of awaken each other, it's called a proximity awakening, yeah,
Speaker 4: and we come into a realization of what we are
Speaker 4: when we're in groups.
Speaker 2: How did a Father Sebastian moniker begin?
Speaker 4: Well, I was in a club called Limelight if you
Speaker 4: ever seen the movie Party Monster, and that was a
Speaker 4: club that had a lot of drugs in it, and
Speaker 4: I was completely sober. I didn't do drunks, I didn't drink,
Speaker 4: I didn't do drugs, and as the club scene in
Speaker 4: New York in the nineties. The owner of the club
Speaker 4: loved me because I wasn't any trouble. I was running
Speaker 4: vampire LARPs in the back rooms of the club, and
Speaker 4: my mentor at the time got named Dimitri, and I
Speaker 4: were running Temple of the Vampire Rituals, where we'd summoned
Speaker 4: spirits into the room, and the owner of the club
Speaker 4: came by and goes, Sebastian, are you doing a Satanic ritual?
Speaker 4: And I go, no, Peter, we're not. We're doing a
Speaker 4: vampire mascot role playing game. So we were hiding the
Speaker 4: actual magical rituals within the confines of a LARP live
Speaker 4: action role playing game. And I had a bunch of
Speaker 4: paranormal experiences in that place. And the seventeenth of January,
Speaker 4: sorry seventeenth of August nineteen ninety five, was in the
Speaker 4: back room and I went to go have a cigarette
Speaker 4: and I was in the backpoint. Now this club was
Speaker 4: a church, a deconsecrated church from eighteen forty six, and.
Speaker 3: I was in the back room.
Speaker 4: And I heard whispering and I looked over and I
Speaker 4: saw this like shadowy figure, well group of shadowy figures,
Speaker 4: and I was like Wow, what the hell is that?
Speaker 4: And it was a full manifestation and I heard a
Speaker 4: whispering and it said that you would bring forth vampire culture.
Speaker 4: Never call yourself king of the vampires.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, all.
Speaker 4: Right, So I chose Father instead, and I kind of
Speaker 4: took on a priestly role, doing weddings and ceremonies and
Speaker 4: baptisms and whatnot.
Speaker 3: By making things.
Speaker 4: I felt as a provider. And I didn't like the
Speaker 4: lordly titles because it reminded me of too much of
Speaker 4: the role playing game being Lord. All that stuff is
Speaker 4: for me, it's roleplay, and I wanted to be taken
Speaker 4: more seriously, so I chose Father.
Speaker 2: Sebastian eighteen ninety seven, bram Stoker came out with Dracula.
Speaker 2: Has that changed dramatically over the years.
Speaker 4: Durracula was not a romantic story at the time. It
Speaker 4: was a story of a monster that was coming from
Speaker 4: the Slavic countries, which was there was an immigration of
Speaker 4: Slavic population in London, so it was kind of a
Speaker 4: story of the Slavic invasion of immigration as the British
Speaker 4: saw it. And Dracula was a disease cursed by God
Speaker 4: and in nineteen ninety two when Bramstucker's Dracula came out
Speaker 4: by Francis Portcoppola with Gary Albin, Oh my god, he
Speaker 4: was amazing. He really redefined it as a love story
Speaker 4: and of reincarnation and the like, because the story of
Speaker 4: Dracula coming to coming to the UK and Whitby, landing
Speaker 4: in Whitby and coming into the city was to find
Speaker 4: his love and the romantic part.
Speaker 3: Was brought over ocean.
Speaker 4: I crossed oceans of time to find you, my dear,
Speaker 4: and that really redefined the story, the actual core of
Speaker 4: the story, which I found very very cool that the
Speaker 4: story could evolve so quickly over a century.
Speaker 2: I'm going to bite you. Do vampires still do that.
Speaker 4: There are three types of vampires in the vampire lifestyle,
Speaker 4: three main categories. One of them is called sanguine, and
Speaker 4: they are people who believe, in many different ways and
Speaker 4: many variations of them, that they need to consume human
Speaker 4: blood to maintain their mental, physical, and spiritual health. And
Speaker 4: it's done clinically and usually done with lancelets on the back.
Speaker 4: It's not done on the neck because that's dangerous. You
Speaker 4: can put puncture a veiner in our artery and it's
Speaker 4: done very safely with sanitary wipes, in a clinical way,
Speaker 4: very much like you would do a body piercing.
Speaker 2: Is that healthy well, if the donor has been.
Speaker 4: Tested and clean and.
Speaker 3: Safe, or been in a monogamous relationship for.
Speaker 4: A period of time and usually maintains a good diet,
Speaker 4: it's pretty safe because you don't take a lot of blood.
Speaker 4: You're not damaging the person. You're not cutting with a
Speaker 4: scalpel or taking a syringe and.
Speaker 3: Pulling blood out of them. It's very small droplets of blood.
Speaker 2: What percent, Father Sebastian, do you think the people who
Speaker 2: drink blood are there in the vampire community.
Speaker 4: There's a lot less than people think. It's a very
Speaker 4: sacred thing because you have to be you have to
Speaker 4: trust the person that you're taking blood from, and you've
Speaker 4: got to respect them.
Speaker 3: You've got to make sure.
Speaker 4: That they are treated properly and given love and kindness,
Speaker 4: and it's a gift. But to do it safely is
Speaker 4: really something.
Speaker 3: That is part of the love and you know, make
Speaker 3: it a good experience for them.
Speaker 4: Put candles out, fragrances, make them comfortable. And the people
Speaker 4: that do donate the blood the donor are very very
Speaker 4: honored and treasured in the vampire community because they're giving
Speaker 4: something that only they can give. So I would say
Speaker 4: that sometimes it's sexual, sometimes it's not. The majority of
Speaker 4: the time it's clinical, but it's still sensual.
Speaker 3: And I would say.
Speaker 4: Probably about one to two percent of the vampire community
Speaker 4: actually consumes blood.
Speaker 3: On a constant basis.
Speaker 2: Now, you mentioned that there are three types of vampires,
Speaker 2: and this was one. What are the other two?
Speaker 4: The most commoner lifestyles are people who identify with the
Speaker 4: archetype of the vampire. They sleep in coffins, they dress up,
Speaker 4: they like the aesthetic, the costumes.
Speaker 3: The theater.
Speaker 4: And then there's the third, which are psychic vampires. Now,
Speaker 4: psychic vampires coming out a vast variety of types, and
Speaker 4: I can only go into a couple of them in
Speaker 4: the time that we have. So you have your typical psychic,
Speaker 4: ethical psychic vamp, and they take life force from people.
Speaker 4: And an ethical psychic vampire has a code of conduct.
Speaker 4: They don't feed from this infirm or sick. They don't
Speaker 4: take too much life force from people, and they usually
Speaker 4: do it with consent when it's done deeply in the chakras.
Speaker 4: And there's three types of three levels of feeding. There's
Speaker 4: ambient which is like anybody can feel ambient energy when
Speaker 4: you go to a concert or a shopping mall, or
Speaker 4: a Christmas celebration, or a political rally or a race
Speaker 4: car sporting event, a concert, and.
Speaker 3: You kind of osmosis, you kind of use your.
Speaker 4: Breath to control of the energy flowing into you. But
Speaker 4: that's the least satisfying.
Speaker 3: Then there's touch or tactile or.
Speaker 4: Direct, whatever you want to call it, which is the
Speaker 4: second level, which you take from the outer layers of
Speaker 4: the aura, and that kind of comes off people like
Speaker 4: a heater, so you're just collecting the energy harvesting it.
Speaker 4: And then the third is a deep feed, which is
Speaker 4: something that usually happens when you need consent for and
Speaker 4: you take the energy directly from the chakras. You can't
Speaker 4: hurt somebody, you can make them tired. However, the only
Speaker 4: danger is is when you feed off one donor for
Speaker 4: a prolong period of time, you can create a what
Speaker 4: we call a sympathetic vampire, which is a temporary form
Speaker 4: of psychic vanprism. Now, when we talk about psychic vampires,
Speaker 4: in Anton LaVey's book The Satanic Bible, he talks about
Speaker 4: a section called not all Vampires Drink Blood, and he
Speaker 4: coined the term psychic vampire as far as I know,
Speaker 4: in nineteen sixty six. And these are the people that
Speaker 4: drain us emotionally, that we feel is.
Speaker 3: The typical type of psychic.
Speaker 2: Vampire, and some of them don't even know they are that.
Speaker 4: The majority of the yep, excuse me, The majority of
Speaker 4: the vampires are the actual not practicing but people that
Speaker 4: are vampires are psychic vampires. And we meet and I
Speaker 4: would say about ten percent of the population is them,
Speaker 4: and they don't identify with the vampire archetype the majority
Speaker 4: of the time, and they are just people that you
Speaker 4: just can't They're usually narcissists, and they drain us of
Speaker 4: our emotional energy, like an old woman in a nursing
Speaker 4: home that keeps complaining about her husband that died forty
Speaker 4: years ago, or that person at work that just annoys
Speaker 4: the hell out of you. And for example, Colin Robinson
Speaker 4: in What We Do in the Shadows is a good
Speaker 4: example of a psychic vampire. He just annoys you until
Speaker 4: you go crazy.
Speaker 2: And you have to get away from these people.
Speaker 4: Only the best defense is to avoid them.
Speaker 2: And how do you know who they are? Initially, I
Speaker 2: can identify them.
Speaker 4: Because they are usually very negative. When I get an
Speaker 4: email from someone that's fifty pages long, I usually don't
Speaker 4: read the whole thing. I speed read it, and I
Speaker 4: can usually tell if it's a psychic vampire because truly
Speaker 4: psychic vampires.
Speaker 3: Can feed through the Internet.
Speaker 4: And they make negative, negative experiences for people to connect
Speaker 4: to them, and then they drain their energy that way.
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