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Speaker 1: The guy that's stopping by for conversation on the drink

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Speaker 1: today is a Grammy nominated artist, a gold and platinum

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Speaker 1: selling chart topping artists, international rap star, Phillish performer songwriter,

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Speaker 1: and a father coming to the club today the baby,

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Speaker 1: how you do it? Where you played rugby? Y'all?

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Speaker 2: Did?

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Speaker 3: I never knew they had rugby teams in the South.

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Speaker 2: They don't.

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Speaker 4: My school. It wasn't even an official team. It was

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Speaker 4: like a club team, so to speak. So we ain't

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Speaker 4: even really we wasn't even named after our school. My team,

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Speaker 4: he wasn't the same colors or whatever. But I definitely

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Speaker 4: played rugby.

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Speaker 1: How did not basketball? Not football? Rugby?

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Speaker 2: Basketball?

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Speaker 4: Our basketball coach used to make you a He made

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Speaker 4: all the all the players shout out the coach rob Man.

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Speaker 4: I ain't look at bc he because I'm sure you're

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Speaker 4: a fan of you. But he used to make I

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Speaker 4: don't know why you used to do that, coach robb.

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Speaker 4: He made kids cut their head like they're in the military.

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Speaker 4: I had braids at the time. I'm like, nah, wish

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Speaker 4: my mom ended up making me cut anyway. I got

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Speaker 4: a little slick at the mouth one day. You say

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Speaker 4: as soon as you get home from school, cutting that off.

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Speaker 4: She stood on it. I got home, she yeah, getting

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Speaker 4: the car. You know, I ended up cutting them anyway.

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Speaker 4: But that's why I didn't move forward. That I would

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Speaker 4: go to tryouts every year and that thing make the team,

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Speaker 4: and then you know, you come back once they make

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Speaker 4: the cuts, you already based they're practice.

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Speaker 2: I'm not showing up.

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Speaker 3: That's when you got why you keep going out when.

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Speaker 2: You know that fag like I still like to play

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Speaker 2: the game.

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Speaker 4: And then football, I ain't even football, you know what.

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Speaker 4: And it's a damn shame. Aside from the summers, right football,

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Speaker 4: you know you gotta do. They started practicing in the summer.

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Speaker 4: That was that was a problem for me. Yeah, I'm like,

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Speaker 4: you know, all right, cool and uh. But then they

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Speaker 4: also used to have to And this is crazy because

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Speaker 4: I love to wear dress clothes now when they used

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Speaker 4: to have to dress up, I didn't like that. I

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Speaker 4: ain't wearing no suit, no tier, you know what I'm saying, Like,

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Speaker 4: I ain't get comfortable with that side of my swag.

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Speaker 2: And until I was a grown ass man, you get

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Right, So you played, you went out for the football team.

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Speaker 1: You didn't like to dress up? What position did you

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Speaker 1: play when I played?

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Speaker 4: So that now when I played, I played for the

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Speaker 4: football team, right, and it is my life. This really

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Speaker 4: was the turning point over really with me and on hindsight,

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Speaker 4: this right now, sitting here thinking about this, this when

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Speaker 4: I you know, I come.

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Speaker 2: To this realization. It's more about just you know, I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if I did good with discipline early on,

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Speaker 4: like I think I would. You know, if I feel

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Speaker 4: like discipline is being when I feel like ego is

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Speaker 4: being incorporated in the discipline, you get what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I ain't compatible with that. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: So if it's because I remember I was on the team,

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Speaker 4: it was it was eighth grade. I was no, it

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Speaker 4: was seventh grade because it was only two seventh graders

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Speaker 4: that made the team.

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Speaker 2: James Martin Middle School.

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Speaker 4: Our team was the truth too unfeated, right, James mar

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Speaker 4: Two seventh graders made the team. It was me and

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Speaker 4: one of the one other kid that made the team.

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Speaker 2: Name was Dorrian. The details in this to let you

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Speaker 2: know it's one thousand per cent facts. Name was Dorran.

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Speaker 2: I ain't seen this name twenty years thirty years. You

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: It's me and Dorry and we made the team. Two

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Speaker 4: seventh graders, and I had a math teacher.

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Speaker 2: She was bad too. She was fine named Miss David.

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Speaker 2: She gonna see that you looking at the math teacher

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Speaker 2: in the seventh grade. She was bad.

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Speaker 4: Talk like Rihanna. She was from the Islands and stuff.

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Speaker 4: I remember like it with a lot of people gonna

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Speaker 4: see this. They gonna pounce like she was. Miss Davis

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Speaker 4: was man.

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Speaker 2: But this David, I don't know why you did this.

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Speaker 4: See I could have been a professional athlete, see what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: And you know the bell I don't know how it was.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure you you know what I mean. You excelled,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean, And in sports your whole life.

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Speaker 4: The bell would ring sooner for football players so they

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Speaker 4: end of the day and get the practice.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. The bell run.

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Speaker 4: They made the ball room for football players. They made

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Speaker 4: the nice football I get up. You know I'm in

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Speaker 4: her class for the last period. I get up and start.

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Speaker 1: I do it.

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Speaker 4: I'm supposed to pack up, go to football, and she's not,

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Speaker 4: why you packing up? I ain't tell you.

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Speaker 2: Could pack up.

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Speaker 4: I'm like this this was supposed to go all you know, man,

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Speaker 4: something you know, and let me not make this a

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Speaker 4: let me not make this a thing. But i know,

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Speaker 4: you know certain teachers when people having a bad day.

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Speaker 2: Somebody could be having it.

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Speaker 4: It's sort of like that thing when the person in

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Speaker 2: Bad day, you know, and then they take it that

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Speaker 2: power exactly.

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Speaker 1: It's that.

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Speaker 4: But I'm I'm that type. I was that type of kid,

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Speaker 4: like I'm gonna ask you, like, like what's wrong? Like

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Speaker 4: what's going on today? Like you having a bad day?

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Speaker 4: Like why you you feel me?

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Speaker 2: Like this is what I do every day when this

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Speaker 2: is what I'm supposed to do.

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Speaker 4: You give you what I'm saying. So what's different today?

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Speaker 4: What's different today is how you feeling?

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: And she she call herself making an example about my

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Speaker 4: ass walked the fine ass to the coach to the

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Speaker 4: to the out there with the foot and then she's bad.

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Speaker 4: I told you it's not right. So the coach he's

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Speaker 4: sweet on her.

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Speaker 1: Of course.

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Speaker 4: You need to tell me we had this heel, we

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Speaker 4: what I mean, in the back by the football field. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you gotta run thirty heels again. I say who, I

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Speaker 4: say who? They ain't never see me again. I ain't

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Speaker 4: never see me again, exact words, who who never see

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Speaker 2: I'm cool on that.

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Speaker 4: This is what you gotta do with the play for

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Speaker 4: the football, deal with people attitudes that ain't got nothing.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm straight. I said, I'm cool. You know

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Speaker 2: what I mean?

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Speaker 3: That was football.

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Speaker 4: I was already selling my little candy. I done been,

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Speaker 4: you know I've been. I got two cell phones, first

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Speaker 4: of all, Miss Davis, I got two cell phones.

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Speaker 2: Eighth grade or not.

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Speaker 4: I still ain't got nothing, right, but I you know,

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Speaker 4: I got something figured out to have two cell phones

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Speaker 4: I pay for and a But you know I ain't.

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Speaker 4: If I got to do that in order to you

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Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, to do this, then it ain't

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Speaker 4: you know, it ain't the same thing to me, no

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Speaker 4: more so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the end of its long story.

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Speaker 1: When you went through what you meant went through fifty

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Speaker 1: cent was there? How did he help you deal with

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Speaker 1: the adversity that you were going through? Because you were

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Speaker 1: at the apex of your career.

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Speaker 5: You're talking about four hundred thousand, four hundred easy alls

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Speaker 5: to WoT four hundred bands of show calendar looked like

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Speaker 5: it got tattoos on it every day.

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Speaker 4: You couldn't even book me for that year. This happened

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Speaker 4: when July. I would book till January and we wouldn't

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Speaker 4: taking no dates after the end. It's like, y'all got

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Speaker 4: a hold on we might be We're gonna be getting

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Speaker 4: a million the show by that time. We need we

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Speaker 4: ain't fooling with y'all. I call us in January.

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Speaker 2: It was like that.

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Speaker 4: But uh, most of the portantly man the most important

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Speaker 4: thing being he wouldn't he wasn't ashamed of wrapping his

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Speaker 4: arm around me. You get what I'm saying, right, And

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Speaker 4: not only that, Like I feel like what hit hone

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Speaker 4: the most was him being a person who who hadn't

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Speaker 4: had controversial experiences throughout his career and and being a

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Speaker 4: he's a person that was able to navigate through them,

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Speaker 4: yes and get on the other end of it. That them,

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Speaker 4: them three factors alone was enough to for a person

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Speaker 4: like me. I only need one of them three factors

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Speaker 4: to you know what I'm saying, I'm feeling debt to

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Speaker 2: That's how I rock, you know what I'm saying. But Nah,

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Speaker 2: he a real solid dude.

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Speaker 4: Man, really put his arm around and really put any

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Speaker 4: You get what I'm saying. A lot of people that

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Speaker 4: I didn't help, that I haven't been a major part

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Speaker 4: got going right right right, I didn't. I didn't they

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Speaker 4: pick up the phone to call you, but don't do

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Speaker 4: it in publicly.

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Speaker 1: I done.

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Speaker 4: Went from a liability, I mean, from an asset, from

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Speaker 4: the biggest asset they'd never had, to a liability.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I see completely different people. You get what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: That was never the case with him, And he's stood

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Speaker 4: nothing the game. He's still nothing the game.

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Speaker 2: A lot of these's people the game for me directly

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Speaker 2: you get or have already gained from. He's never he

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Speaker 2: stood nothing in the game, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: The entire time, even.

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Speaker 1: To this day, you're going through what you're going through.

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Speaker 1: Kanye West brought you out him too. That's another one

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Speaker 1: was thirty just like that quick Kanye lost a billion.

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Speaker 1: When you have conversation, what's those conversations like, because he's

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Speaker 1: going you went through what you went through, He's going

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Speaker 1: through what he went through. Yeah, so so what what's

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Speaker 1: the conversation like, damn man?

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Speaker 2: What wiped up with?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Like the how I lead off the conversation. Of course

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Speaker 4: with fit is more the conversations they more. They was

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Speaker 4: more u strategic, more controlled.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: I done did this before my boy Kanye. It's war

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Speaker 2: with him.

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Speaker 4: My boy ready for he don't get Kanye, that's really

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Speaker 4: him now he ain't putting on no, that ain't nother side.

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Speaker 2: That's really him.

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Speaker 4: With him, it was more so like you know, like

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Speaker 4: he fed up with this with the way it goes,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like he you know, it.

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Speaker 2: Got him mad the way they're doing you know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Same thing with fifty that too, but with Kanye is

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Speaker 4: So I still got, you know, this responsibility to continue

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Speaker 4: It wasn't call it strong. Boy, I don't know how

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Speaker 4: Strength is dealing with the head on, healing from it

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Speaker 4: They look like, Boy, he's strong, he doing this. He's

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Speaker 1: And the guy that's stopping and buy for conversation and

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Speaker 7: Who's going to have the ball? Right, who's going to

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Speaker 1: Right? Who's in the sacrifice? And you know, well, how

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Speaker 1: hard is it? Because James hard has been an MVP,

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Speaker 7: But that's the question that they have to figure out

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Speaker 7: To Russ have the ball? Does why I have the ball?

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Speaker 7: This PG have the ball? Like how do you figure

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 7: That's that's kind of like I guess as a team,

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Speaker 7: who's gonna impose their will? Who's gonna be the dominant

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Speaker 3: But that don't seem like why is personality? Now I

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Speaker 1: You've played against him, but when I look at him

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Speaker 1: that's gonna bring the huddle together and says, God, look

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Speaker 1: we're gonna run this right here. You're gonna get me

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Speaker 1: the ball right there, and I'm gonna go make it.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't strike me, and I could be wrong. Like

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Speaker 1: He doesn't strike me as that. That seemed more like

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Speaker 3: What do you know him? You played against him for decade?

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Speaker 2: Who is like that?

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Speaker 6: Let me see.

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Speaker 7: he's a He is a dog like in every aspect

442
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Speaker 7: of the word. So they gotta figure that shit.

443
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Speaker 1: I'm just happy happy you not on the team having

444
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Speaker 1: to try to figure it out along with him. Yeah.

445
00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:38,760
Speaker 6: Sure.

446
00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,800
Speaker 1: So when you heard Harden says I'm not a system player,

447
00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:48,440
Speaker 1: I'm the system. I'm a system. Considering that you're not

448
00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,920
Speaker 1: going to be the James Harden that was in Houston

449
00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,960
Speaker 1: because you got three other All Stars with you and

450
00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,960
Speaker 1: you're not. I don't believe he's that same player because

451
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Speaker 1: I think some of his athleticism has Wayne and like

452
00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:01,720
Speaker 1: you said, he didn't get a training camp, so he's

453
00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,080
Speaker 1: not in the peak condition to be able to get

454
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Speaker 1: by people kawhi in Finnish, let you kawhim finish, stand

455
00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:08,880
Speaker 1: around and let you be the system.

456
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Speaker 3: PG ain't gonna stand around and let you be the system.

457
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Speaker 1: So how does James change his way of thinking in

458
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Speaker 1: order to make this thing work?

459
00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,719
Speaker 7: Well, I think that's up to them, to them players.

460
00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,359
Speaker 7: If he's coming in with that mentality yourself, for them

461
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Speaker 7: to change it. Like if I'm going into a situation

462
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Speaker 7: and I've been the guy like my whole career and

463
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Speaker 7: my whole time, the only way I'm changing it is

464
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Speaker 7: somebody make me change it. And if that's, you know,

465
00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,840
Speaker 7: the stance he's gonna take, it's up for that team

466
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Speaker 7: to figure out how they're gonna get him to come

467
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Speaker 7: into whatever they're doing to switch that up.

468
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Speaker 1: If not, they gonna have a problem. You know what,

469
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Speaker 1: you're the perfect person that I got you here. You

470
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Speaker 1: played with James hard to Houston. What's he like in

471
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Speaker 1: the locker room? Because we hear these stories staying over

472
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Speaker 1: late in a city, going to Vegas in off days?

473
00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,720
Speaker 1: What's James Harden like? James?

474
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Speaker 7: What I guess what people don't know is James will

475
00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,760
Speaker 7: work his ass off, Like after practice, he's running sprints

476
00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,159
Speaker 7: before practice, he's shooting, he's getting his treatment, he's lifting

477
00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,720
Speaker 7: weights after games. What he doing his personal life and

478
00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,680
Speaker 7: his personal business, that's that's up to him. Like nobody

479
00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:23,760
Speaker 7: should give a fuck about that.

480
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Speaker 1: You cool with that? So you cool if he like

481
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Speaker 1: op times in the Vegas or you know, because you

482
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Speaker 1: know you see like I mean from the video. Now

483
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Speaker 1: you like I said that social media get you in trouble.

484
00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,440
Speaker 1: But because they put everything on social media, he and

485
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Speaker 1: the club he popping bottles, He got them honeys around him.

486
00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:42,240
Speaker 1: Is that conducive for winning a championship? Because at the

487
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Speaker 1: end of the day, for him, that's the only thing

488
00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,240
Speaker 1: that's left to prove improven. He one of the best players.

489
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Speaker 1: He's the top seventy five player where you want to

490
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Speaker 1: rank him as far as two guards. Obviously the two

491
00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,440
Speaker 1: top spots belong to Jordani Kovid. So if you want

492
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Speaker 1: to say he's better than the Way, a lot of

493
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Speaker 1: people are gonna fight you on that and said Way

494
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Speaker 1: is the third best because Wade got championships and of

495
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Speaker 1: YadA YadA, So but he the top whatever you want

496
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,679
Speaker 1: to say, the only thing left is a championship.

497
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Speaker 3: Can you win?

498
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Speaker 8: Should he?

499
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Speaker 1: Like? You know what, guys, I done got this party

500
00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,200
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be able to get that party and

501
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Speaker 1: in again. Let me go and get this championship. Let

502
00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,440
Speaker 1: me focus on this. I'm gonna give up the Script club.

503
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Speaker 1: I mean, I know that hard, but you know I

504
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,720
Speaker 1: will give up some of them. Like you said, you

505
00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:25,080
Speaker 1: told your son he's got a sacrifice. What's it worth

506
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Speaker 1: to you?

507
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Speaker 6: Yeah?

508
00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:31,399
Speaker 7: Some people, I guess, some vices work for people, you know,

509
00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:35,000
Speaker 7: and trying to change a player's game and a knife inning,

510
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,560
Speaker 7: that's not gonna help nobody, right. So you know, however

511
00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 7: he decides to live his life went if if it

512
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Speaker 7: comes a time where he feels like he wants to

513
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,920
Speaker 7: make a change, that's on him, right, And like everybody's

514
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:53,720
Speaker 7: gonna have an opinion. So the idea for us as athletes,

515
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,200
Speaker 7: Fuck everybody else's opinion on what I got to do.

516
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Speaker 7: As long as I'm doing what I need to do

517
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Speaker 7: and how helping myself, for helping my team doing the

518
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,200
Speaker 7: things that I've been doing, I can't really listen to

519
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 7: what anybody else have to say. The Peanut gallery is

520
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:08,679
Speaker 7: always going to.

521
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Speaker 1: Be that how difficult is it for a player to

522
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Speaker 1: change his off court behavior when he's had success doing

523
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Speaker 1: it that way. Basically it is intoire career.

524
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Speaker 7: It's going to be tough as hard as you gotta

525
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 7: get humbled in a way, you know, And a lot

526
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Speaker 7: of the times when people stumble across things that humble them,

527
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 7: they start to look for ways to change and to

528
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Speaker 7: fix things.

529
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Speaker 1: What I mean. He goes to Houston. He had individual

530
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Speaker 1: success and he had some great players. He had Chris Paul,

531
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Speaker 1: he had Dawhight Howard, he had Okay. It didn't work there. Well,

532
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Speaker 1: I want out whatever reason. I don't know the reason,

533
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,200
Speaker 1: but he wanted out. He goes to Brooklyn, he has KD,

534
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 1: he has Kyrie. It doesn't work for whatever reason. I

535
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,360
Speaker 1: don't know the reasons. He goes to Philly. He has

536
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Speaker 1: arguably this, I think Yokich is the best player in basketball,

537
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Speaker 1: let alone big.

538
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Speaker 7: I think he's the best player. He probably he Jokish

539
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 7: is one of the best. But I feel like right now,

540
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 7: Anthony Edwards is the best player right now. Yeah, Anthony

541
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Speaker 7: team Anthony Edwards a fucking dog. He had been played

542
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Speaker 7: on the timberwoard.

543
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.

544
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Speaker 7: I felt like, he's the best player in the league

545
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,919
Speaker 7: right now. He's my favorite player in the league right now.

546
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 7: How about that? What?

547
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Speaker 3: Why did it?

548
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 1: Why did it work? Get those places for James? Think

549
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 1: about what Kadi's a tops is an all seventy five player.

550
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Speaker 1: Chris Paul is all seventy five player. I think I

551
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Speaker 1: believe for me personally, I think the White Howich have

552
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Speaker 1: been on on the seventy fifth adversary team.

553
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Speaker 3: Why didn't it work?

554
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Speaker 7: I mean, it don't work for everybody all the time.

555
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 7: A lot of people don't win. And the team that

556
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,919
Speaker 7: we had in Houston was a really good fucking team, right.

557
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 7: We just ran into the best team of the decade

558
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 7: at the time, you know.

559
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Speaker 3: So you had him down three to two, trap.

560
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, and then one of the top seventy five players

561
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 7: first ballot Hall famers got hurt, right, you know?

562
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 1: And you know it we I don't know shit on

563
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: the money. There was a situation when when Chris Paul

564
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Speaker 1: and James Hardened were in Houston, there was a time

565
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 1: out and Chris was trying I guess Chris was trying

566
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 1: to tell him something and James Harden slapped his hand.

567
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 1: You were in those so what's going through your mind

568
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 1: when you see that happen? What's going on?

569
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Speaker 7: Let me see, I got to think back to the

570
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 7: play When was that? Do you know I wasn't in

571
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 7: the playoffs? Okay, so probably in a playoff situation, Chris

572
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 7: is a communicator through all things.

573
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Speaker 1: James isn't much of a communicator.

574
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Speaker 7: So I think with Chris being more of a communicator

575
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 7: and James more of an alright, I get it, you know,

576
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 7: let's move on.

577
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 1: I think.

578
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 7: In a situation like that, it's just two different of

579
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Speaker 7: opinions on how shit should go. How is your interactions

580
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 7: with Darryl Maurray, Darryl uh Darryl is, I guess a businessman.

581
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 7: You know, he's not a bad dude, He's just, you know,

582
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 7: he is a businessman and he gonna do what's best

583
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:16,919
Speaker 7: for the business at all times.

584
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Speaker 1: Because, if you think about it, he gave James Harden

585
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 1: the max when I'm not so sure a lot of

586
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 1: other teams would have been willing to give a sixth

587
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,439
Speaker 1: man the max and gave up, you know, gave up

588
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 1: you know, compensation to get him.

589
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 7: I don't think he got the max when he when

590
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Speaker 7: they when they got him, well, he.

591
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Speaker 3: Got the max for what he could get. Yeah, and

592
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 3: so now Darren Marris in Houston up.

593
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Speaker 1: He builds everything around James, James Cooking wins the MVP, YadA, YadA, YadA,

594
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 1: going to All Star, He's all the NBA.

595
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 3: He's making a name for himself. People's like I said, he.

596
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Speaker 1: Might be a better scorer than Jordan, he might be

597
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 1: a better score scorer than Kobe. He goes to you know, Philly.

598
00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 1: You know, he's like, I want him in Philly, and

599
00:24:59,080 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 1: they bring him to Philly.

600
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 3: What happened? How did it sour? And Darryl moriy in arden.

601
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 7: That situation? You know, I don't never really speak on

602
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 7: other people's situation like that, so I don't really know.

603
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 7: But what I do know is get in the max.

604
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 7: He earned that, however many times he got it.

605
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: He earned that.

606
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 7: And I know for the time that he was the

607
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Speaker 7: MVP or scoring all the points he earned the league

608
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 7: and those teams he played for a shit ton of money.

609
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 7: And this is a business, right, so and as far

610
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Speaker 7: as like the business aspect, he checked that box off

611
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Speaker 7: when it comes to doing what he needed to do

612
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 7: us as competitors and athletes. The thing that he hasn't

613
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 7: done is win a championship. But every great player don't

614
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Speaker 7: win all the time, so we gotta kind of not really.

615
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 7: I mean, we can't judge him on that, But is

616
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 7: it really really really fair to judge an individual on

617
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 7: if they gonna win a championship? If it's a team support?

618
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: Right? So, my my thing to you as you start

619
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: to get older, you realize that you have less time.

620
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Speaker 3: Should he have given given money back to Philly?

621
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Speaker 1: Fuck?

622
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 7: No, it's no such thing as giving money back right now,

623
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,199
Speaker 7: because they're not when they take it from us, when

624
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 7: they finance, they don't give it back right.

625
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: So no, And see, and I think that might be

626
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 1: the crooks because you know, hey, if you take less money,

627
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: we'll be able to get this player. But you taking

628
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 1: money from a million a millionaire, but a billionaire, got it?

629
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Speaker 1: Not even that.

630
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Speaker 7: It's not his job to fix or work through the

631
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 7: salary cap. It's the general manager and that franchise's job

632
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Speaker 7: to figure out the best way to work and construct

633
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 7: that team through the through the salary cap. And if

634
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 7: you decide to give a player to Max, it's not

635
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Speaker 7: his job to give money back.

636
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:53,679
Speaker 1: Now you ain't no money? Nah?

637
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:54,239
Speaker 6: Fuck now?

638
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this. You've been a part of culture.

639
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 1: We hear the term culture of heulture, the patriot way

640
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: and this and the bad being a part of a

641
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,479
Speaker 1: winning culture and a losing culture.

642
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,959
Speaker 7: What's the biggest difference habits things that people are going

643
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 7: to accept. Your team holding you accountable, your teammates holding

644
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 7: you accountable, that's number one. If your teammates don't hold

645
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 7: you accountable, then you know you don't really you're gonna

646
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 7: you're gonna be a bad organization. If you don't have

647
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 7: no vets, you're gonna be a shitty organization.

648
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: So why team's so willing to get rid of vets?

649
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 1: Because I've heard a lot of people, not just basketball,

650
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: but in football also the older guy that's trying to

651
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 1: kind of showing the younger guys.

652
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 3: How and how not to do things.

653
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 1: So why are teams enfranchise are so willing to move

654
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: on from vets and have Oh we got eight guys

655
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: that's under the age of twenty. Probably because they're cheaper.

656
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 7: I mean, it's a business, right at the end of

657
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 7: the day, and your bottom line is what's important. Now,

658
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 7: this is just my thought process. It it might not

659
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 7: be you know what it is but I would think

660
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 7: that's that's the reason.

661
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 3: Whose responsibility is it to create that culture?

662
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: Is it the star player? Is it the coach? Is

663
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: it the general manager? Is it the franchise? Whose responsibility

664
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: is that?

665
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 7: I think the responsibility is the organizations, led through the coach,

666
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 7: through your vets. That's I think the peccingd order that

667
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 7: should be in. But I definitely believe that the fact

668
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 7: that there's not a lot of vets in the league

669
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 7: anymore and throughout whatever all sports, I think that kind

670
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 7: of helps bad teams stay bad?

671
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: Right? How disciplined?

672
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 7: You know?

673
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 3: You hear that now?

674
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: I don't believe any successful per I don't believe you

675
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: can be successful without discipline, fact, which requires you to

676
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: do your very best with no one else's watching. So

677
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: how hard is it to be disciplined, hold people accountable

678
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: while still having fun? Uh?

679
00:28:55,800 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 7: Being able to put everything in the right place? Compartmental lot, Yeah,

680
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 7: I call it. I understand there's a time and a

681
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 7: place for everything. When you when you commit to something

682
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 7: that's first and foremost, you're gonna have fun doing what

683
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 7: you're doing. If you love what you're doing, right, it's

684
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 7: gonna be fun.

685
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: Playing basketball should be fun because that's what you wanted

686
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: to do with your time.

687
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 7: Life exactly, So everything else is extra.

688
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: The guy that's stopping by for conversation and the drink

689
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: today is world renowned. He's arguably the greatest professional wrestler

690
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: of all time. He's been wrestling for over fifty years.

691
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: The most decorated celebrated world champion in sports entertainment history,

692
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: a sixteen time world champion, the only man to be

693
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: a two time WWE Hall of Fame inductee, an international icon,

694
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: A limousine ride, jet flying kid Steenen. When is oide

695
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: of my God?

696
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 9: WHOA?

697
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: That's y'all? Borrow Redclayer, give me your mount rushmore of wrestlers, Well,

698
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: my mon't rush for Yeah, I gets hard Duke because

699
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: I honestly love the old guy.

700
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 10: In a contemporary world, it's Undertaker, Hogan Austin and Shawn

701
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 10: Michaels because Shawn is the greatest of all time. Really, yes,

702
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 10: better than you yep yep, not not talking but ring yet.

703
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 10: I gotta, I gotta, I can't, I can't.

704
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 3: You gotta give it up to me.

705
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 10: I knew that the day I came home and my

706
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 10: little son said, do you go mun salt. I said,

707
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 10: why why, why?

708
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: Why?

709
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 6: Michael can.

710
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: So what was it like when you when your first

711
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: match against Andre the Giant? What was that when they

712
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: told it was so ridiculous because he's a mass amount

713
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: of a man.

714
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 6: Now you just take me over the head, like he said, Buss,

715
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 6: just have a relax.

716
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 10: No, I would say. I used to say the Big Show, right,

717
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 10: Big Show tells the story. Can I use somebody graphic language? Sure,

718
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 10: go ahead, that's how if it's too bad with no, no, no,

719
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 10: I would go with the Big Show. So your balls

720
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 10: in your eyes, that's all you need to do. So

721
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 10: going ball shot. Big Show dropped to his knees. He's

722
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 10: my size on right, boom boom. I can actually work

723
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 10: with him, but when he's standing it up, not a

724
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 10: chance right, blind him? He turned blinder when I pulled

725
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 10: cam blind and I walk away from me and anybody

726
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 10: one hundred and twenty pound.

727
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 6: Defensive back, you a clip a guy, right, because if.

728
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 10: You just start to think of a logic, right, because

729
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 10: no one's gonna believe, not gonna have a test of

730
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 10: strength with them?

731
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: What I mean? Right?

732
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 10: And he's a great athlete and he played basketball, which

733
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 10: laws Kate right, who was.

734
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: Who's bigger big show with Andre? Andre? He was that Yeah,

735
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: And they tell the stories of him drinking one hundred

736
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: and two cans of fair.

737
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 10: Fix downtown her in Charlotte, North Carolina, and Frank Vonell

738
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 10: drink fifty six.

739
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 6: That was the original manager.

740
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: I was reading could listen to his documentary and they

741
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: and he was so massive and he was gonna have

742
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: surgery and they didn't really know how much analsteezia to

743
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: give him. And it's like, well, they said, well he

744
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: can drink I think they said two fifths of vodka.

745
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,719
Speaker 1: And it's like okay, and so they deduced two fifths

746
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: of vodka and still walk. I mean for a man

747
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: to be drink two filths of vodka or one hundred

748
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: and two caves of beer.

749
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 3: And stand up and walk out of a bar, that's

750
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 3: not that's not normal.

751
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 6: Rick.

752
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 10: Now, well he the fact he doesn't. A couple of

753
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 10: times he fell down, Well who got him up? Well,

754
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 10: they didn't know what happened. They they took him to

755
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 10: his room in Boston one night and he fell down

756
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 10: on top of Peede Morales and he was caught between

757
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 10: the bed and Pedro couldn't get up underneath him. He

758
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 10: literally had they fought like it had you know, five

759
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 10: hundred found on the top of yere right, and all

760
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 10: you can do is try to nudge the bed over.

761
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: He was.

762
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 6: He just fall asleep.

763
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: They just leave in the lobby.

764
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 11: So how do you how do you like?

765
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, andre Rix's gonna win tonight or this guy's

766
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: gonna win because nobody can really beat him if he

767
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: didn't want to lose.

768
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 6: Exactly, he didn't, so was he was he?

769
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: And here is the thing.

770
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 10: Harley was a super lexim Yeah, and I would say,

771
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,719
Speaker 10: you go, like a story, We're in Grange for one

772
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 10: time and he was super super Hardy supplex him and

773
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 10: slamming him, and Hardy stood him up. Yeah, and I go,

774
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 10: I go to Harley. Did you ask him? I mean,

775
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 10: I was so Hardy had this unreal not a weightlifter,

776
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 10: but that body. Yes, yes, And.

777
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 6: I said, did you ask Connory you could do that?

778
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 10: He said, got tomorrow right, all ask him what I said,

779
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 10: slam sup lex kick out on two.

780
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: So he told him what was gonna happen?

781
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 6: It was nobody. Nobody argue with hardly nobody.

782
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 3: So what are some of your favorite locker room moments.

783
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 6: Oh, just the camaraderie.

784
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 10: You know, you know, a good locker room or a

785
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 10: bad one, right, Yep, when you're winning, everybody's in a

786
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 10: good mood.

787
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 6: I don't know. I just I don't know.

788
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 10: My thing is I just want to be happy. I

789
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 10: want to I want to get along. It hurt me

790
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 10: financially to say that, but rather than argue about it

791
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 10: every night, just beat me.

792
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: Right.

793
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 10: If I got to fight you for my page, I mean,

794
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 10: it takes all the fun away from doing it right.

795
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 10: If everybody having fun you if I've been dated, I'm

796
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 10: sure when you go, I don't want to do this.

797
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 10: I don't want to fight with anyone. I don't want

798
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 10: to be part of it.

799
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 3: Did was it hard to be in a locker room

800
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 3: or wrestle someone that you didn't like?

801
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: Or did you not? Did you get along with everybody?

802
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 10: There are a couple of guys I didn't get along

803
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 10: with it, But you don't. Yeah, you're just internalize. You

804
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 10: don't bring that to work though, No, you can't just

805
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 10: make yourself miserable.

806
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: The move, So your move was the figure for yes?

807
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 3: How did you come up with that move?

808
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 6: I got that from Buddy too well.

809
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 10: Actually, Jack Briscoll, I did ask Jack if I could

810
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 10: use it, right, Jack was great Jack and Jerry Briscoll

811
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 10: Jack and Jerry Jack Brisco Junior Oklahoma Oklahoma State right

812
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 10: thirty one and old thirty one pens no One scored

813
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 10: a point on him.

814
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: Wow, he was going to the Olympics and he got

815
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: a girl pregnant. You know back then that took that

816
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: took president. Yeah, you got you got a job. Yeah,

817
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: thirty one and old No. One took him down. Wow.

818
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean I think about that when I talk

819
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 10: to Jerry, and Jerry is still tougher now, but to

820
00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 10: this day.

821
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 6: I see Jerry quite a bit.

822
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 3: How many different wrestlers do you think you've wrestled over

823
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:05,479
Speaker 3: your career?

824
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 6: God, everybody, not not the new guys at all.

825
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: But I haven't missed anybody, Yeah, because I remember you

826
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: wrestling from like you said, black Jack Mulligan, Hunk Hogan, Uh,

827
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: Sergeant Slaughter and Grady Giant Bobo, Buzail Abdullah the Butcher,

828
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: Dusty Rose Wyhoo missed the wrestling number one, number two,

829
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: Baron bond Raski, Baron ras the Great Bear.

830
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

831
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: Uh so how do you how what difficult, was it

832
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: to go from good guy to hell back and forth?

833
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 1: Because you're one of the few guys that could do

834
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 1: it rehab, But I was. I hated being a good guy,

835
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 1: did you I could? I don't have any I don't

836
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: have that.

837
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 10: I don't drop kick right right, and all I got,

838
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 10: all I really have is a good guy is a

839
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 10: job in the wood, right.

840
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 6: I mean, I still be taking the bombers.

841
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: I'm better.

842
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 6: I'm much better being a hill.

843
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: I mean I'm looking at you know, Andre the Giant, Sting,

844
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 1: Randy Savage, Lex Luger of the Giant, Kevin Nash, Undertakers,

845
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: Long Coal, Big Show, Triple h Booker, t the Rock,

846
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: Roddy Piper, Who's who? To name a few?

847
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 3: To name a few, and a lot of a lot

848
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 3: of them.

849
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: Our younger generations, Like I said, we go back and

850
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: you're talking about Abdula the Butcher, Bobo Brazil, Patterson, uh

851
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: the junk Yard Dog, all those guys. Tony Atlas, Yeah,

852
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: that was a bit, that was a rivalry.

853
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 6: I broke him in the business.

854
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 10: Yeah yeah, Tony the state high school champion from Ronold, Virginia.

855
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,280
Speaker 10: So what what was your favorite I've seen Tony close

856
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 10: close script right bench Berench Princes five.

857
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 6: Oh five for a reps. He was unbelievable. Try to try,

858
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 6: mister world. I think you want he.

859
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: If I'm not.

860
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 3: Mistaken, I think maybe a couple of years ago I

861
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 3: saw him still wrestling. It's is he is he your

862
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 3: he's brought your age.

863
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 10: Ay, he's younger than me, but I broke him in. Yeah,

864
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 10: he's following even in the sixties on.

865
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 1: Late sixties or me and the Yeah. So what was

866
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: your favorite match to be a part of. If one

867
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: match that says you're gonna remember that, you remember this

868
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: match forever because they're bringing up only every year the.

869
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,919
Speaker 10: Either the eye Quit match or had with Terry Funk

870
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 10: in New York Class Champions, or the match with Steamboat

871
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 10: or first night I met Jim Harbaugh in eighty nine

872
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 10: called Shintown Rumbo, where I dropped the title of Steamboat.

873
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: Right, So, how do when you go into a match,

874
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: how did they decide like, Okay, Rick tonight, you're gonna

875
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,479
Speaker 1: lose the bell. Okay, Rick tonight, you're gonna keep the belt.

876
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,720
Speaker 1: How do how do they come to that decision? Promoter

877
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: just ask you and you do it.

878
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 10: See that's why that when I'm sixteen champion, I'm technically

879
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 10: I have won the title twenty one times. Right, you

880
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 10: know I told you about about new When we're in

881
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 10: New Zealand, right right, I'm wrestling Harley Hardy goes to me,

882
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 10: Let's yeah, I wish you could have met him. I guess,

883
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 10: let's do Ricardo Steve Occard's every morning right a favor,

884
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 10: and you dropped the title to me tonight.

885
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 3: But that wasn't what was playing, No, but he did

886
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 3: called it.

887
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: What am I gonna say? Harley raised?

888
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 10: And you you pick her back up tomorrow and then

889
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 10: we head back to the States. I said, well we're now,

890
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 10: I'll get in trouble. He said, no, I don't know

891
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 10: who's gonna tell him here, and I'll tell Riccard to

892
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 10: he says a word, I would come back and see

893
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 10: him personally.

894
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 6: Sure enough they found out. So that's sixteen seventeen.

895
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: Right.

896
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 10: Then I had the same thing in Santa Domingo with

897
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 10: Jack Venato, right the hot potato in a full scale riode.

898
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 10: He'll try to give me the belt. I I don't

899
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 10: want the bell, keep it. We want to go back

900
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 10: and get it right. And the same thing and the

901
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 10: islands are rough, trindadad with Brody.

902
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 6: Brody was a big tough guy boy. Your son's death, yeah,

903
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 6: she she actually fulfilled his dream. That's kind of our You.

904
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: Found him, You found your son, correct? Yes, so, because

905
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: he was going to be the rest, but he was

906
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: going to follow daddy's foot steps. He was going to

907
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: take on the flair lineage and keep this thing going.

908
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: How did that impact your kills? Me? Did you know

909
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: he was dealing with these demons?

910
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 6: He meant in life support four other times?

911
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 2: Oh man?

912
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: Four the time you try to get him help. Stays

913
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: clean for ten.

914
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 6: Rehab centators nine or ten. I think it's ten, but

915
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 6: herefore were from Phoenix to Colorado.

916
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 10: One time he lost complete complete he used it was

917
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 10: right leg that's a right to centator of Colorado where

918
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 10: he's mountain climbing, and you know, we episoded. The last

919
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 10: time before he died, his auction level, you know, the

920
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 10: things to put every right was at forty two. The

921
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 10: doctor called me and said, when I call the minister,

922
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 10: when he wakes up, he'll be brand dead if he

923
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 10: makes it, I said, And I went in the room

924
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 10: and I went and told everybody.

925
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 6: He woke up nothing wrong. Wow.

926
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 10: The doctor will do me is an Indian doctor right

927
00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 10: from India. I mean the Indian he goes you just

928
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 10: saw he just saw a miracle. I have never seen that,

929
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 10: because your actional level just can't be that low low

930
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 10: for twenty four hours. He can't be that low for

931
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 10: five hours. Wow, that's the guy's honest truth. So I

932
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 10: was so upset with him because he wasn't drinking, but

933
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 10: we found pills. I'm just glad I opened the door.

934
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 10: I went and met my daughter and I said, I'm

935
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 10: just gonna leave read home. And I went and opened

936
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 10: the door. And it's like the same thing I've seen

937
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 10: him in Purple and they come and shoot him an

938
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 10: ark on and the same cops, same fire crew women

939
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 10: in Charlotte's small town. And they came and walked out

940
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 10: in the hall. And the guy said, he said he

941
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 10: didn't make it. I walked across the street to the barn. Truth,

942
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 10: and I just drank for five years.

943
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 1: Lame yourself. Why because you don't think you were a father,

944
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: You were more of a friend. Yes, what could you

945
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: have done differently? Rick?

946
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 6: I don't know.

947
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 9: I traveled the world. Will I took it to your

948
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 9: fan in Europe, we traveled. I don't know, don't know

949
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 9: what different, except you know, that's one of the only

950
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 9: So it's so easy for these doctors to say you

951
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 9: got to let them bottom out, kick them to the curb, right,

952
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 9: And I just could not know.

953
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 10: You could not could not know. We're not that wasn't

954
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 10: there because I kicked him out. Then I can't imagine

955
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 10: or someoneuld feel in that situation. Right, you know, you're

956
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 10: not welcome, can't come home, get you're kicked out, and

957
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 10: the next day, I don't know what's words.

958
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: You never turned your back on him, never, I mean,

959
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 1: but that has to make you feel good. You were

960
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: fighting for you were fighting for him to the very end.

961
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 10: Yeah, well you find out that heroine is not it's

962
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 10: not an addiction to disease. But he was doing so

963
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 10: good and he just come back to come back from Japan.

964
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 10: I brought him back to take him to WrestleMania to

965
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 10: watch Ashley debut, and we were leaving Wedy and we

966
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 10: were leaving, and I got them two gigs that weekend

967
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 10: before US Romanium.

968
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 6: For fifteen hundred dollar. I was a night to wrestle

969
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 6: makes some money while I was here.

970
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 7: That was it.

971
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: How's your help grade? I mean you you your kidneys fail,

972
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: you placed in a medically induced coma, and you told

973
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: us earlier they had for six months.

974
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,280
Speaker 3: You didn't remember anything.

975
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 6: Back, back, nothing here.

976
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: But you're good. But you're good now you're helped. There's

977
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 1: a horse. So what's it like to be a grandfather?

978
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: You say you have grandkids? Now, yeah, I only get

979
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 1: to see the one a lot. The other ones are

980
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: in Minneapolis. My oldest granddaughter's travelers.

981
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 10: She's she comes to visit, and she's a sophomore at Alabama,

982
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 10: of all places.

983
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: And the guy that's stopping by for a great conversation,

984
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: he really doesn't need any introduction, but I'm gonna give

985
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: him some of his flowers right now. He's a multitality

986
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,919
Speaker 1: music producer of world renowned DJ Grammy Award winning mega

987
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: multi platinum recording artist, a music industry visionary, a global figure,

988
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: pop sensation, bona fide hit maker, New York Times bestselling author.

989
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: He has a star on the Hollywood Walker Fame. A

990
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: motivational speaker, a guru, a positively a philanthropist. Now he's

991
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: a golfer, actor, entrepreneur, record label executive, radio personality innovative Inflorencer,

992
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: the anthem King, the Quincy Jones of hip hop, and

993
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: RB none other than DJ Kllich Gallat.

994
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,760
Speaker 11: Turned the Grammys into the Holy Grail. Close out the Grammys,

995
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 11: my brother jay Z hit like an eight minute verse

996
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 11: on there with Lil Wayne, Rick Ross Friday and John Legend.

997
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 11: When I made that record, not only was it sent

998
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 11: from God, I'm saying to get hold to do that

999
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 11: with such a blessing for him to do the song

1000
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 11: and to perform it. He doesn't even do that for himself. No,

1001
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 11: I mean, you know this since I'm not making this

1002
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 11: up like guys like I pinched myself when I pray

1003
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 11: and I think I text Jayson out of nowhere and

1004
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 11: to say thank you a hundred times a month just

1005
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 11: because I know this is like like when we was

1006
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 11: at backstage before we go downstage and we in the

1007
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 11: suits and I'm like.

1008
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: You're looking around.

1009
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 11: I'm looking around, like yo, you know what I'm saying.

1010
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 11: You see what's going on. So those blessings, I know

1011
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 11: my fans appreciate it, and that's what keeps me going.

1012
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 11: My fans expect me to perform at the highest level

1013
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 11: and expect me to deliver once. I delivered so many times,

1014
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 11: so consistently throughout the years. My fans like, right now summertime,

1015
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 11: haven't dropped the record yet, and they know I'm you

1016
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 11: do you do know? I say, it could be winter

1017
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 11: and I could turn it the summer. That's what Cavin does.

1018
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 11: So I'm about to drop some new music soon. But

1019
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 11: my fans, I hear them out there and I see them.

1020
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 11: They tell me they're screaming, let's go golfing. They also screaming,

1021
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 11: cal where's the anthem? Because I know you coming? I'm coming.

1022
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 11: You know what I'm saying that my fans is what

1023
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 11: keep me going. I'm saying as far as the music,

1024
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 11: when you did God did?

1025
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: Yes? Did everybody come up with their own lyrics? Did

1026
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: Wayne do his own thing? Oh? Do his own thing?

1027
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: Was just set the beat?

1028
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 11: Yeah? So God did? Was my man Friday set me

1029
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 11: just the chords and him singing God did? Obviously I

1030
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 11: already put in the universe. You know, if you follow

1031
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 11: me on social media, they don't believe in us.

1032
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: God did yes.

1033
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 11: So he came and sent me a thing with chords

1034
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 11: and he was singing the hook of God did.

1035
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 9: So.

1036
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 11: I'm like oh man, this is dope. So originally I

1037
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 11: was going to keep it as an interlude, just like

1038
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 11: that with nothing. Then I started listening to it. I say, nah,

1039
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 11: let's put let's make this into a song. So I started.

1040
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 11: We put me street Runner, We put drums on there,

1041
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 11: and you know, you know music, and just turn it

1042
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 11: into like a no vocals on it, besides Friday just

1043
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 11: turning into like a masterpiece, a musical masterpiece. So now

1044
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 11: it's just the beat. And now we got drums on it.

1045
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 11: Right now, we got you know, instruments on it with

1046
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 11: Friday's chords and with him singing on it. So I

1047
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 11: sent it to Ross. Oh yeah, because you know Ross

1048
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 11: is my three or five brothers.

1049
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:11,399
Speaker 3: Now, yes, my brother.

1050
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,479
Speaker 11: You know, we go way back, you know what I'm saying.

1051
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 11: I send it to Ross, and Ross know if I

1052
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 11: send him something, you know, cunt it up to something.

1053
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 11: But also Ross will send it back that same day

1054
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 11: or that next morning like that.

1055
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 3: My whole career.

1056
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 11: You know, Ross has been in every single album mine,

1057
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 11: same of Wayne. Yes, So I sent it to Ross.

1058
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 11: I was in the Bahamas. He sent the verse back

1059
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 11: and when he said something something put me in with

1060
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 11: the Sharks. And huh, god did when he got into

1061
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,879
Speaker 11: that mode. You know, I'm losing my mind. You losing

1062
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 11: not losing my mind right, like I'm losing my mom

1063
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:55,720
Speaker 11: running around, I'm just blowing speakers. So I hit Wayne.

1064
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 11: I hit mac Maine now like a man, mac man.

1065
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 11: I need Wayne, you know, and his family to me,

1066
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 11: and He's like, send it through. So I sent it

1067
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 11: to him. Wayne sent it back. The next morning, I

1068
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 11: get Wayne's firsts. I'm like, oh my god, so.

1069
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: You know you got you got.

1070
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm like, I got yeah.

1071
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 11: The man talking, he talking, He so many bars on that.

1072
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,760
Speaker 11: I'm like, wow, right, I'm losing my mind hitting Wayne,

1073
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 11: hitting Ross. I'm so excited. So now I said, hold up,

1074
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 11: you can keep it like this and you can win big,

1075
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 11: or you could do what you do Calick. So I

1076
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 11: took a jet. I flew to New York. I found

1077
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 11: out who was in New York. You know, ho was

1078
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 11: my brother's family. I told him I need to see him.

1079
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 11: Told me to see five minutes of your time. I'm

1080
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 11: the blessing ones. I had a few hours of his time,

1081
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,240
Speaker 11: but asked for five. He gave me a few hours.

1082
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 11: I come see him. I said, I would love to

1083
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 11: play you my album, and I would love for you

1084
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 11: to pick my album cover. I had like three options

1085
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 11: of album covers and I wanted him to pick it.

1086
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 11: I was happy with all three of them, and I

1087
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 11: was like, I want to play you my album. So

1088
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 11: the first song I played was Drake No Secret. I

1089
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 11: set it off like that. He's like, ooh, that's crazy,

1090
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 11: and then it went into God did it so now,

1091
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 11: so while God did his playing, I'm looking at him.

1092
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 11: I ain't asked him to get on here, looking at him,

1093
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 11: and I was like, you know, I'm trying to tell him,

1094
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 11: like and he's listening to it, so now you're hearing.

1095
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 11: And then the beat coming and Ross coming and he's like,

1096
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:40,479
Speaker 11: then Wayne coming.

1097
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 10: He like that.

1098
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,479
Speaker 11: And then I purposely left an open verse just a beat.

1099
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 11: So now the beat is playing and I see him

1100
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 11: doing this look, and then I started hearing like like

1101
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 11: rapping so boom. When we turn the record off here,

1102
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 11: Hedy had like four or five bars already out the

1103
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 11: head saying already spitting some of the uh. So I

1104
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 11: was like, y'all really need you you know what I'm saying.

1105
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 11: So I was being cool, so I continue to play

1106
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 11: the album right, and he's like, oh, this is not

1107
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 11: He was just loving the album, loving the album. Then

1108
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:11,879
Speaker 11: we went back to God.

1109
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 6: Then okay, he.

1110
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 11: Kept listening to that. So now we popping champagne.

1111
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:18,839
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1112
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 11: Yeah, now we're popping champagne. I'm staying in the room

1113
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 11: with a cigar. He lighting a cigar. He doing this

1114
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 11: like you know, he ain't confirmed nothing yet. It's just

1115
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 11: a vis so boom, make a long story short. On

1116
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 11: the me leaving the room, he's like, Yo, send me

1117
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 11: God did send it to me? Like I know what

1118
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 11: that means, like, you know, like sena to him. So

1119
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 11: I'm looking at landings like you know, you know, I

1120
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 11: gotta be cool now, you know, I gotta show my excitement.

1121
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 11: I still gotta be like, Okay, yo, we did send

1122
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 11: it to him, and I'll never forget. He texts me

1123
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 11: and goes, Yo, have a book studio. I think it

1124
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 11: was like book studio at six o'clock or seven o'clock

1125
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 11: or something like that. I only got like an hour

1126
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 11: because I gotta catch a helicopter to the Hamptons. So

1127
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 11: I'm thinking, like book the studio, he gonna he gonna

1128
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 11: do it, but he gonna get to it, like, no,

1129
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 11: it might take it. You know, I don't know, right,

1130
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 11: but I'm gonna do it. I'm excited. He said, bok studio.

1131
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,439
Speaker 11: I mean, somebody happens, so we book studio. He face

1132
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 11: sized me. Now, remember he said he got an hour

1133
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 11: and he got to catch the helicopter go to the Hamptons, right,

1134
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 11: you know, I don't know how that works over there,

1135
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 11: the helicopter amton. It's a whole thing, right, and I

1136
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 11: guess it cuts off with this.

1137
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 8: I don't know right.

1138
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 11: So he face sized me and the song is playing

1139
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 11: in the background. He's rhyming, so I'm listening to him.

1140
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 11: He's smiling and I'm listening to it, and I'm hearing

1141
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 11: him spit.

1142
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 6: I'm like, oh my god.

1143
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 11: But the problem is after a minute end up being

1144
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 11: two minutes, and it up be in three minutes, end

1145
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 11: up being four minutes, and up being like five minutes.

1146
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 11: I'm like looking at him. He's like, and I'm like what,

1147
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 11: So I forget me trying to hear the song. Try

1148
00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 11: for what's going on. I just keep hearing his voice

1149
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 11: for that, like, I'm not expecting that, right, So he says,

1150
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 11: I got to go catch the helicopter. He's you know,

1151
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 11: like like I did it for you. So Goru sends

1152
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 11: me the song. So now he says, I running the studio.

1153
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 11: Now I'm putting a blench to it, and I'm losing

1154
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 11: my mind because of so many quotables, so many bars.

1155
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 11: But not even just that. I felt like he told

1156
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 11: because I'm a real jay z fan. I felt like

1157
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 11: he put his whole career of flows and and and

1158
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 11: life in one verse, you know, like the Book of Home,

1159
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 11: like you know, joga, because you know, God did and

1160
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 11: then we was when we was when I played a record,

1161
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 11: I was like, yo, telling what Hove did and and

1162
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 11: he did, you know. So it was the biggest blessing

1163
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 11: in the world. To get the song done, that was

1164
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 11: one thing, and it was the culture went nuts, right.

1165
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 11: But to be able to get the opportunity of performing

1166
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:58,240
Speaker 11: at the Grammys.

1167
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, they shout it done right.

1168
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 11: But the thing is for him to say yes was

1169
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 11: bigger for me than just to perform right, right, because

1170
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 11: I've never seen him really do that for himself. He

1171
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 11: did that maybe a long time ago, right, you know

1172
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 11: what I'm saying. And that's like, you know that thing.

1173
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 11: You don't want to abuse the love right, right? You

1174
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 11: know what I'm saying, Like even though I know it's love,

1175
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 11: but it's like some things is so great. Right, he

1176
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 11: felt what I felt. We had to do that for

1177
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 11: hip hop. Right, we had to do that. It's fifty

1178
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 11: year anniversary, but not even just that. We gotta do

1179
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,800
Speaker 11: that for hip hop. It's bigger than us, and we

1180
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 11: did that.

1181
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 1: Right. So he told you he had a minute. He

1182
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 1: ended up giving you eight minutes. Did you like I

1183
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 1: got to put all this. I can't cut into this here.

1184
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 11: Let me tell you Wayne and Ross and Hoe. Those

1185
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 11: are my brothers for real now my rat friends. No,

1186
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 11: he's my brothers family like like I known him so

1187
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 11: long and night. We really have real stories together, real

1188
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 11: moments together, and those are my brothers. They would they

1189
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 11: never told me, no, it's it's and I would never

1190
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 11: tell them now. But I've worked with artists. They might

1191
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 11: want to hear, especially when you got a hove on

1192
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 11: that they might want to go fix. But they know

1193
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 11: if it's Cali Calid. You know, I don't like calling

1194
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 11: people saying my records to get on as a feature.

1195
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 11: You know, how to tell somebody the other day because

1196
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 11: I'm working on my new album, and I said, Nah,

1197
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 11: my records ain't features. Uh, you get on the feature.

1198
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 11: My records are moments, you know what I'm saying, Like antheons,

1199
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 11: these are these are they're gonna talk about this forever.

1200
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 11: Our records when we work together, they play forever. The

1201
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 11: time was the moments when we come together. That's a moment.

1202
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 11: So when they found out that Hole was on this,

1203
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 11: when to how to clear the record, meaning through their

1204
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 11: lawyers or their management right, So I'm sure like yo,

1205
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,399
Speaker 11: Cal got hove on there, you know what I'm saying.

1206
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 11: So I'm expecting, like, yo, I want to hear some

1207
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 11: more stuff to it or that nah, And everybody was

1208
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 11: just excited about it. And the first time they heard

1209
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 11: it is when the world heard it. See, I work different, Shannon,

1210
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 11: I work different, And some of the new artists working

1211
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 11: with me now they're learning how I work because some

1212
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 11: of them don't understand that because I like to keep

1213
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 11: even the person that's on my record excited. I don't

1214
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 11: like people taking my record after we record they actually

1215
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 11: take it home. I usually if you do, it's because

1216
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 11: of the circumstances I had to work in your studios.

1217
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 11: But when you work with me, I don't like to

1218
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 11: let nobody have a copy of my record, but I

1219
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,439
Speaker 11: don't want to lead, and I want you to stay

1220
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 11: excited because if you listen to it every day, I

1221
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 11: might not come out for another six months. I don't know.

1222
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 11: I work off of God. God tell me when to come.

1223
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 11: So I do that for our protection and to keep

1224
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 11: us excited. To whin the rect can do. Come out

1225
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 11: excited as much as the fan is excited. What's your

1226
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 11: own work? You know I'm dipent. You're chaying there's people

1227
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 11: in this collage, like you know how you got the jacket?

1228
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 11: You know a jacket?

1229
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:14,919
Speaker 3: I got a jacket in the music world.

1230
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 1: You know.

1231
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 11: I'm saying like like this time I'm working on I'm

1232
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 11: trying to the message that I'm going to put out there,

1233
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 11: and it's like you're getting like really exclusive because I

1234
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 11: haven't told nobody's working on a new album yet, right,

1235
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 11: but I am working on a new album.

1236
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: Wow.

1237
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 11: Some of the message I'm gonna put out there is

1238
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 11: that we have to learn to appreciate each other. We

1239
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 11: have to appreciate each other's brother and because if it's gone,

1240
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 11: don't appreciate it. Then appreciate it where you got it,

1241
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,959
Speaker 11: when you got it. You're saying, because what we're giving

1242
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 11: these people, it's not regular what you're doing. It's not regular.

1243
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 11: It's not it's not like there's a lot of people

1244
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 11: do what you're doing right now. They ain't doing what

1245
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 11: you're doing. They ain't coming with the yellow linen and

1246
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 11: you know in the classes like that to talk. You

1247
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 11: know what I'm saying, ways, they ain't doing it, not

1248
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 11: just telling you we're different, real right, And I just

1249
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:08,919
Speaker 11: want people not to take them for granted because I don't.

1250
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 11: You know what I'm saying. I don't take life for granted.

1251
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 11: I pray to God every day. I don't take my

1252
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 11: friends for granted. I don't take the music I've made

1253
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 11: for granted. I act like I just started today because

1254
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 11: I know it's special, you're saying. I know when I'm

1255
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 11: doing something special, and I know when I see something special,

1256
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 11: and I know when I hear something special. So I'm

1257
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 11: gonna make sure that I love it and I treat

1258
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 11: it and I show my appreciation. And this ain't no bullshit.

1259
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 11: Excuse my language. This real life is who I am.

1260
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 11: And when I make this music. I go all out

1261
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 11: for the fans, not just the fans that go out,

1262
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 11: go out all out for the artists.

1263
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 3: That's on my records, right.

1264
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 11: So that's why I keep working so consistently with the

1265
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 11: biggest artists in the world, because they know how passionate.

1266
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: And how much I love this.

1267
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 11: You're saying, when I work with a jay Z or

1268
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 11: a Drake or a little way In or a raw

1269
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 11: So or a little baby or a future I go

1270
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 11: all out, not just making it, go all out to

1271
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 11: make sure the world can hear it. I go out

1272
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 11: there and campaign for us. I do everything. I'm not

1273
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 11: these other guys, I'm not. I'm sorry. Let me ask

1274
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 11: you this because I just I just love me.

1275
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 1: We love it, we love the energy. But let me

1276
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 1: ask you this. I heard the story that Michael Jackson

1277
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 1: what drove him to what he did is that he

1278
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: kept trying to make thriller. Thriller was once in the generation.

1279
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 1: It was once in a historical event. A lot of

1280
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 1: times historical events only happened once. That's what makes them historical.

1281
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 1: So how do the DJ Cally says, Okay, if I

1282
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 1: did fifteen million, whatever, If I don't do fifteen million

1283
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 1: on this one. It ain't as good if it doesn't

1284
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 1: do diamond, if it doesn't do this, it doesn't do that.

1285
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: How do you guard.

1286
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 3: Against that cale?

1287
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 11: Well, you know, you know, I never worry about the numbers.

1288
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 11: What I care about is the impact. Okay, you gonna

1289
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 11: say some records, it's what's so beautiful our music. Some records,

1290
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 11: the impact is so big that you get all the

1291
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 11: blessings in abundance from the numbers, from the impact, and

1292
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 11: then some records is just impact in a different way

1293
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 11: where it comes from right here, and then it just

1294
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 11: starts doing this, it just goes everywhere, and then it

1295
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 11: becomes massive. I care about the impact of it. That's

1296
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 11: what I do when I make music. Like like I

1297
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 11: tell other day this artist and I say, yoah, I

1298
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 11: don't make records that go pop. You'm saying, my records

1299
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 11: they just go pop because they the biggest. Like when

1300
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,439
Speaker 11: you start trying to make a pop record, that means

1301
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Speaker 11: it's not like it's like you're you're making we create

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Speaker 11: over here. I'm gonna be me and I'm gonna make

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Speaker 11: sure I be true to myself and true to my music,

1304
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 11: and you love it so much that it explodes where

1305
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 11: everybody love it. Even if you don't listen to hip hop,

1306
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 11: you love it. That's the type of records I try

1307
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 11: and put my energy to make you know what I'm saying,

1308
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 11: and that's why they become anthems. You know what I'm saying.

1309
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 11: Even if you wasn't listening to to our music, you

1310
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 11: heard it. You know what I'm saying. So that's the blessed.

1311
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 11: I think when you start worrying about going diamond is

1312
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 11: when you don't go diamond.

1313
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Speaker 1: Okay.

1314
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 11: I think you go in there and you put your

1315
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 11: best effort and you work so hard and you pray

1316
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 11: that it connects with the people and then there's no

1317
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 11: limits after that. But you have to work hard as

1318
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 11: a hardist too. You can't just think that you got

1319
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 11: cool now. I mean I don't do that.

1320
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Speaker 3: I work.

1321
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 11: I work, and I work.

1322
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 1: As I sit here listen to you, you don't say, well,

1323
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 1: I got jay Z. I mean I got whole, I

1324
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 1: got Baby, I got a little one, I got Weezy,

1325
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 1: I got Ross, I got Drake. I always gonna do this. No,

1326
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 1: you go in like, hey, I might have the best players,

1327
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 1: but we gonna put this thing. We gonna put this

1328
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 1: time in wet.

1329
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 11: I gotta put the time in. And another thing too,

1330
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 11: is it's not about getting the best players. It's about

1331
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 11: making the best record, the great record. A lot of

1332
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 11: people can get it, might get a feature and get it.

1333
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 11: I know, I know a lot of records where they

1334
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 11: got some of the biggest artists. That doesn't mean it's

1335
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 11: the hit, doesn't mean it's go No, it's.

1336
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Speaker 3: About making the great record.

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Speaker 11: You're saying. Every time I'm in the studio with the greats, listen,

1338
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 11: I'm I'm just listen. I'm good at what I do.

1339
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 11: You know what I'm saying, And even the greatest artist,

1340
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 11: I try my hardest to push more greatness out of

1341
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 11: them the same way they would do it for me. Right,

1342
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 11: Because we're in the studio, I'm pushing so much greatness

1343
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 11: out of them and they doing the same thing to me.

1344
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 11: You know what I'm saying. So that's the blessing. And

1345
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 11: my goal is to continue to work with Rihanna Beyonce,

1346
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 11: J C. Drake, Little Way, Little Baby Future, trying to

1347
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 11: all the people ever worked with, the goals that continue

1348
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 11: to work with, right, because if you continue to work

1349
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 11: with that means you did a great job, the last

1350
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 11: time you work with us? Yes, yes, yes, I'm saying right.

1351
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 11: So obviously we have a connection and the fans.

1352
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 1: And the guy that's stopping by for conversation on the

1353
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 1: drink today is a three time Grammy nominated artist. The

1354
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 1: next time he's nominated, he's going to win a goal

1355
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Speaker 1: selling artist, rapper, singer, songwriter, businessman Coordate twenty nineteen Double

1356
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 1: XLF Freshman class. You got Meg, the Stallion, you got

1357
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 1: Blue Face Gunna or the baby Roddy Rich. Do you

1358
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 1: do you follow? Do you follow that you follow you

1359
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 1: your classmates? Yeah?

1360
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 12: To an extent for sure, because it's it's always like

1361
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 12: whenever we see each other, like it's just always like

1362
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 12: we graduated high school together.

1363
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 2: This's type of.

1364
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Speaker 8: Feeling you have, type of vibes. So whenever I see Meg,

1365
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 8: it's always love with her.

1366
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 12: She always admits super good energy, always had even when

1367
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 12: she was going through you know that thing with Toy,

1368
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 12: Like she all with out sender like a you know,

1369
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 12: a voice, no, you know, things of that nature, But

1370
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 12: like she always was like good vibes, good energies, And

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01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 12: every time I see them, it's always at like last

1372
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 12: time I seen Meg in person, was at the met gala,

1373
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 12: you know, so it's just like, hey, hey, it was

1374
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 12: something man freshman class. We hear, you know, just talk

1375
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 12: about you know, how proudy are with each other with Roddy.

1376
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 12: You know we have the same A and R with Dallas.

1377
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 12: Shout out Dallas. So I knew Roddy a little bit

1378
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 12: before the double XCELF freshman class. So it was like

1379
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 12: super fire and inspiring to see, okay, us me and

1380
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 12: each other twenty eighteen. Then we both had a show together.

1381
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 12: The next time we see each other, it was double

1382
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 12: exelf freshmen. The next time we see each other it's

1383
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 12: at the Grammys. So it's always like just good to

1384
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 12: see people leveling up and see like how far they

1385
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 12: can take it or how far they took it and

1386
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 12: how far we gonna continue to take it. So it

1387
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 12: it's gonna be funny to see, like even five years

1388
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 12: from now, ten years from now, to see where everybody

1389
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 12: is and how far they was able to take it

1390
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 12: and things able.

1391
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Speaker 8: To do for they family, their community. It's a blessing

1392
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 8: for sure.

1393
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 1: You mentioned that Meg went through what you went through

1394
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 1: with Toy, you reached out. I mean, what was your

1395
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 1: words of advice. I mean, obviously that's someone that you

1396
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 1: that's a very differend to you, and she's going through something.

1397
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 1: And from what I can read, I don't know either

1398
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 1: either of the parties, but it seemed like they didn't

1399
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 1: believe that. Like I'm and I'm thinking aboutself, Why the

1400
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 1: ist you gonna lie about somebody shot in the foot?

1401
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 1: I mean, that's I mean, that's Meg, that's Meg. She

1402
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 1: don't need clout.

1403
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 12: Yeah, And I'm not trying to, uh, I'm not gonna

1404
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 12: over exaggerate it and say we like good friends. You know,

1405
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 12: I'm not like best friends but at all, but like it,

1406
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 12: I'm more so of a s of a supporter, you know.

1407
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 12: And the fact again we was on that double ex

1408
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 12: celf freshman class. Just whenever I see it's it's always

1409
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 12: good energy. And so I was just like, man, you know,

1410
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,480
Speaker 12: God always prevails. And it might not even have been

1411
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 12: about the Tory Lane situation. It might have been like her,

1412
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 12: she's been through a lot, her losing her mother and

1413
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 12: things of that nature, but just just let just just

1414
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 12: sending good energy out there.

1415
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 1: That's it, just sending good energy. It's a blessing for

1416
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 1: How did you decide the record deal that was right.

1417
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 10: For you.

1418
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 8: At the time. Man, I didn't really do too much decided.

1419
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 12: With my initial deal, it wasn't really uh too much

1420
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 12: deciding that I had to do if if that makes sense,

1421
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 12: you get what I'm saying. But with the major label deal,

1422
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 12: just me sitting down with different partners, Sylvia Rone, she

1423
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 12: was amazing.

1424
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 8: So again, with like that initial deal, it wasn't really

1425
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 8: too much.

1426
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 12: Deciding going on, if that makes sense, you know, just

1427
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 12: like it is what it is exactly to an extent,

1428
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 12: but whatever, that's a whole different story.

1429
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 8: But with my major label.

1430
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 12: Deal, I think Atlantic, Julie, Craig, Kaza, Success, Dallas, all

1431
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 12: of them was just the energy that was in the

1432
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 12: room at the time. You know, it was just a

1433
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 12: lot of energy going on. And they hustlers and they

1434
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 12: like grinding, you know, they like brutting in that work.

1435
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 12: And so I just like to be in an environment

1436
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 12: to where like I am a priority. I love to

1437
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 12: go because a lot of even not just with a

1438
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 12: major label, you'll notice it with like an agent or

1439
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 12: a lawyers, a business manager.

1440
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 8: What they do they name drop.

1441
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 12: They'll be like, oh, yeah, we represent this person, this

1442
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 12: person they think they gonna get you just because they

1443
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 12: got all these other big names. But it's like, I'd

1444
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 12: rather go to where I am a priority, where I loved.

1445
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, versus I'm just ask your name on.

1446
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 12: The roster for you to go to other clients and

1447
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 12: get them because you're using my name. So I'd rather

1448
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 12: go to where I'm a priority and I'm loved.

1449
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 1: You know, I read where is it true that you

1450
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 1: live with your manager as you as you a millionaire,

1451
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 1: you'd have made millions and living with your manager?

1452
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, y'all. I was living with my manager. Yep, yeah, man,

1453
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 8: listen dog.

1454
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 12: I was just that was a to to over extent,

1455
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 12: but but yeah, I had I definitely had a million dollars.

1456
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 12: My bank account was living in well a manager just

1457
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 12: sleeping on this couch. His girlfriend was pregnant at the time.

1458
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 1: I was going to the student You live with yourself, Hey.

1459
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 12: It was pretty good. Look at that that bank account.

1460
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 12: I was like, they don't meet to night, y'all, know

1461
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 12: me to night, y'all.

1462
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:17,919
Speaker 1: But I did the same thing. I lived with my grandmother.

1463
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 1: I lived in the back in the house that my

1464
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 1: brother and I got for my grandmother. And I was

1465
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 1: a million had a Ferrari Park that side of But

1466
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 1: I woke up like, man, I'm still living in my grandma.

1467
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 8: One day, I woke up, my bad to cut you off.

1468
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 8: I woke up that couch wasn't hitting like it was

1469
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 8: supposed to.

1470
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 12: I'm like, let me get a spot. And then I

1471
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 12: was still figuring out if I even wanted to get.

1472
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 8: A spot in that area, you know. So it was

1473
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 8: it was a shout out to him.

1474
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 1: What's what's been your since you you've made some money,

1475
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 1: what's been your favorite? What's the favorite? What's your favorite purchase?

1476
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 12: Probably buying real estate, buying my mom a car, taking

1477
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 12: care of family, you know, just like and not like

1478
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 12: taking care to care because I don't want to make

1479
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 12: it seem like my whole family just like here, Cord,

1480
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:03,719
Speaker 12: what you're gonna.

1481
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 8: Do for me?

1482
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 12: But just like being able to be a blessing the others,

1483
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 12: you know, like truly like that. What really feels me,

1484
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 12: Like being able.

1485
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 3: To be like, oh we can do this.

1486
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 1: How do you know? Not how many blessings to hand out?

1487
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:16,680
Speaker 1: Because sometimes you know you can, they can thank you

1488
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:18,919
Speaker 1: a guy like figure, just like the blessings are unlimited.

1489
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 12: Yeah, absolutely, I treated I got great advice from Jay

1490
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 12: Cole from that treated like credit.

1491
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying, just like, okay, you done

1492
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 8: ball from the bank.

1493
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 12: If you ain't pay off your loan or whatever the

1494
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 12: case may be, you six you into five hundreds now.

1495
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 12: But then also just not and not only blessings that

1496
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 12: were able to present are just money. A lot of

1497
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 12: the times, the biggest blessing we able to present is opportunity.

1498
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 12: Correct get let you get your foot in the door

1499
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 12: due to this, because of I've done kicked the door

1500
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 12: down for us, right, So learning to plant those type

1501
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 12: of seeds infertile ground versus planting seeds and infertile ground

1502
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 12: where you just keep having the planet, keep pouring your

1503
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 12: water in it, but nothing's coming out of it.

1504
01:09:58,439 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 9: And so just.

1505
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 12: Investing and people that's gonna make the most out of

1506
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 12: the opportunity versus people that's like entitled and just gonna

1507
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 12: do like the absolute bare minimum versus people like yo.

1508
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 12: Cause I feel like gratitude is just so important, man

1509
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 12: Like even when somebody take care of my then I'm like, man,

1510
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 12: I appreciate you. I'm starting to learn, not even learn,

1511
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 12: but just show gratitude at the highest level, Like I've

1512
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 12: always had gratitude, never have again.

1513
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 8: We raised in the South, we say please and thank

1514
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:26,520
Speaker 8: you for everything.

1515
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 3: Always that gratitude.

1516
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 12: But now I'm appreciative for just this tiny man, the

1517
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 12: fact I done have a dag gonna escalate, had to

1518
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 12: come and pick me up from the house to bring

1519
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 12: me here.

1520
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:38,680
Speaker 8: That's a blessing, you get what I'm saying, So.

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01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 12: Being appreciative of what we almost consider small things but

1522
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 12: are so huge. So just having people around, that's one

1523
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 12: grateful for the opportunity gratitude. You don't gotta get down

1524
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 12: your hands and knees every day now, but just sometimes

1525
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 12: you show appreciation with your actions as well. So that's

1526
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 12: one thing I'm really learning is learning how to plant

1527
01:10:56,920 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 12: seeds and other people and give them opportunities for further ground,

1528
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 12: because that's worth a lot more than just sending you

1529
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 12: a wire.

1530
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 1: You know, Have you had any purchases that you regret, like, damn,

1531
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 1: why not buy that that was so unnecessary?

1532
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 8: I bought a house in Atlanta, Yeah, yeah, and I

1533
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 8: know long term it's gonna be good, but.

1534
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:19,720
Speaker 12: Man a, I had a car out there too. I

1535
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:21,640
Speaker 12: had a house and a car, and and you know,

1536
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 12: thankfully I'm super blessed. Like our own houses in different states,

1537
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 12: some for rental properties and some just for whenever I

1538
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 12: go back home. I got somewhere to stay, so I

1539
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 12: bought something in Atlanta, a crib in Atlanta, a nice

1540
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:35,639
Speaker 12: crib to a super nice crib. Had a card house

1541
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 12: just out there. But I am never in Atlanta as

1542
01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:40,800
Speaker 12: much as I thought I was gonna be, And so

1543
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 12: I just shipped my car actually back in DC to

1544
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:45,720
Speaker 12: where I'm out there a lot. So I'm just like,

1545
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 12: I'm just sitting on this car, you know. But it's

1546
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 12: a blessing though. I won't even looked at as a

1547
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 12: bad purchase because it's still real estate. I can always

1548
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 12: sell it, I can always do whatever it's whenever I

1549
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 12: got family in time. My mom don't live too far

1550
01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:59,560
Speaker 12: from Atlanta. She go just stay there, et cetera. So

1551
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 12: I want to and call that.

1552
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 8: A bad purchase.

1553
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:04,679
Speaker 1: You ain't bet no jewelry, no watch, no car.

1554
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 8: No To be honest, I haven't been like suit like.

1555
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:09,640
Speaker 6: You know.

1556
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:10,639
Speaker 8: This is paddic Philip.

1557
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:12,640
Speaker 12: Maybe I can always get my bread back, you know

1558
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 12: what I'm saying for this now, this is a gift, actually,

1559
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 12: But I don't really think I've spent like too much

1560
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 12: outlanded stuff because even on clothes like.

1561
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 8: You look good, you feel good, you feel good, you

1562
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 8: do good, you do good, they pay good.

1563
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 12: And then also that's a business expense, it's a write off.

1564
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 12: I can't really think about bad money cause it's even

1565
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 12: if I spent like, say you go to the strip

1566
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:37,560
Speaker 12: club one night, you drop five, it would never be

1567
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:40,640
Speaker 12: an outlander ShaSS price. You know, when you go to

1568
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 12: the club where you go like casino, I'm gonna drop

1569
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 12: five hundred dollars maximum. You know what I'm saying, Like

1570
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:47,840
Speaker 12: I go to the club, I've never spent a dollar.

1571
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 8: No, no, no, I'll be.

1572
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 12: Playing the roulette tables twenty five dollar minimums. I'm going

1573
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:58,600
Speaker 12: I ain't dropping too much on listen, I bet on

1574
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 12: myself like a like even on certain music videos like

1575
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:05,560
Speaker 12: it label will be like okay, based on our projections

1576
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 12: and amount of views we think this video gonna do,

1577
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 12: We're gonna give you seventy five thousand of this budget.

1578
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 12: But the creative plan that I have the video costs

1579
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 12: two hundred thousand, and so.

1580
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 8: I'll spend out of my own pocket.

1581
01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 12: The difference in that one hundred twenty g's on a video,

1582
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 12: but I look at that as investing within my brand,

1583
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 12: within my career, within how I'm presented. My visuals want

1584
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 12: to give the fans a great video, so honestly, man,

1585
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 12: I'm not gonna lie. I haven't made like too much,

1586
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:31,639
Speaker 12: like really dumb purchases