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Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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Speaker 1: Cowboys. This is Media Match, a roundtable of Cowboys insiders

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Speaker 1: trumping wisdom and offering sizzling takes on the current state

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Speaker 1: of your Dallas Cowboys. Now your host new he.

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Speaker 3: Scrugs, Media Mash Draft Day. Let's ride, Yes, sit up, Yes,

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Speaker 3: it's here, No more talking about it. It's Thursday, First

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Speaker 3: Round action, Green Bay, Wisconsin.

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Speaker 4: The Cowboys have the tenth overall pick for now tenth

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Speaker 4: t I mean twelve?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 2: Sorry news?

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Speaker 4: Oh no, no, sorry, OK.

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Speaker 2: That's what happened. Russell Wilson, I love Russ for those things.

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Speaker 2: Third round pick, Yes, pretty good, third round.

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Speaker 3: Round pick out of Wisconsin slash NC state. A whole

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Speaker 3: pack of Badgers, as he would always say on his

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Speaker 3: Sunday night thinks John Jack Taylor, Ed Werder, got Nick Harris,

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Speaker 3: who's replacing Clearantill again?

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Speaker 4: And I'm new he scratch?

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Speaker 1: Is this short term a permanently tuder Chris Bean.

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Speaker 2: We now have a panelist who is capable of putting

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Speaker 2: out a ranking of the top one hundred draft picks.

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Speaker 2: We've never had that before.

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Speaker 5: Yes, yes, tell us more Nick, Yeah, I've been working

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Speaker 5: on this draft class for I feel like close to

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Speaker 5: six months, probably even more. I'm a college football nerd,

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Speaker 5: so and I covered recruiting in high school, so there's

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Speaker 5: a lot of these guys that I've been covering for

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Speaker 5: seven eight years. It feels like, so yeah, it's I

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Speaker 5: have a draft board up on my Twitter three hundred

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Speaker 5: and fifty plus players and then yeah, I also made

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Speaker 5: a top one hundred list that I put out on

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Speaker 5: Star Telegram yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Do you have a guy that you've covered since high school?

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Speaker 3: We're like, man, I really like this kid. I'm looking

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Speaker 3: forward to this day for him.

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Speaker 5: Tenor Rolla McMillan. That's funny because I really been covering him.

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Speaker 5: He was a sophomore in high school at Anaheim Survite

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Speaker 5: and one of the freakiest athletes I've ever covered, too,

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Speaker 5: So that's that's probably like the one that jumps to mind.

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Speaker 5: And here in the first round, Shador was a guy

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Speaker 5: that we covered when he was at Trinity. Trinity Christian

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Speaker 5: Cedar Hill Quinn you weres have been covering him since

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Speaker 5: he was a freshman. There's a lot of guys in

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Speaker 5: this class. It's it's pretty fun.

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Speaker 4: I know you worked in OC Say what in the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I worked worked many many different states, many.

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Speaker 4: Different states in California.

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Speaker 5: So I was covering Texas at the time, and Tenero

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Speaker 5: McMillan had Texas in his top three, so and they

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Speaker 5: had a quarterback commit that was out there, so I

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Speaker 5: would always make trips out to south of southern California.

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Speaker 5: He was one of them that I would check in

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Speaker 5: with every time. Probably saw him four or five times live,

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Speaker 5: and it's a it's an experience.

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Speaker 2: You were on the that show, the on Bravo, the

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Speaker 2: Draft Nerds.

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Speaker 5: Of the Draft Nerds, Yep, that was me.

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Speaker 6: That was me.

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Speaker 5: I was the one doing the little confessionals, you know

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Speaker 5: in the in the back room. It's like, yeah, Jock,

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Speaker 5: he sucks, man like. And then I got up to

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Speaker 5: Jock and be like, man, you're the best.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the truth comes out, man, all right.

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Speaker 3: So so now I'm more curious because we just I

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Speaker 3: just finished doing the media I mean not meeting match

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Speaker 3: the this is the media match the players last and

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Speaker 3: I was getting holes shot in me by Barry Church

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Speaker 3: and Heck Maherrison about Ted McMillan.

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Speaker 1: Well, I didn't like him because he don't separate.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't play hard all the time.

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Speaker 4: The separation was church.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a legitimate conversation only because one reason

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Speaker 1: des Brian faded quickly is Dak was like, you ain't

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Speaker 1: open enough. I'm not doing it to you. And so

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Speaker 1: maybe Dak is evolved over the years. Maybe Ted gets

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Speaker 1: more separation than Dez. But I think that's a legitimate question.

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Speaker 2: I was talking to an offensive coordinator last night who

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Speaker 2: did not have very many positive things to say about McMillan,

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Speaker 2: and he did like Matthew Golden for the Cowboys for

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Speaker 2: a variety of reasons. But it made me go back

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Speaker 2: and look at if you look at the way Will

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Speaker 2: McLay and Brian Schottenheimer have described what they're looking for

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Speaker 2: in a player in terms of like they we want

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Speaker 2: world class competitors. We want guys who are passionate about football.

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Speaker 2: I mean, does that based on the conversations I've had,

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Speaker 2: that doesn't really fit McMillan, It does fit Golden. Are

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I cover both of those guys, and McMillan, I

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Speaker 5: don't I know the video that came out what was

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Speaker 5: just get out there. That has changed in his time

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Speaker 5: at Arizona. I think the separation concerns sure. I think

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Speaker 5: his athleticism is elite enough to be able to make

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Speaker 5: this guy that was the number one volleyball player in

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Speaker 5: that type of athleticism at the catch point. His catch

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Speaker 5: He's had the same quarterbacks since he was in eighth grade,

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Speaker 5: and so I wonder how much that transition period will

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Speaker 5: having to get used to a different arm throwing him

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Speaker 5: the ball. But I think this is this is a

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Speaker 5: guy that'll be an All Pro in this league.

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Speaker 2: Here's a quarterback he's had for eight years better than

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Speaker 2: Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely not well, he should be encouraged about that prospect.

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Speaker 5: It's more so a timing thing, you know, and being

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Speaker 5: so long, especially at the receiver position, there might just

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Speaker 5: be some early, you know things he's gonna have to

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Speaker 3: So I was watching an interview with Jetfish coach at

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Speaker 3: Washington now who was Arizona before with McMillan, and he said,

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Speaker 3: I remembered being in Jacksonville and we took the trip

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Speaker 4: He says, I was in Jacksonville at the time as

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Speaker 3: He'd fit us, but we took Blake Bortles, he said,

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Speaker 3: but he just like, man, this guy is really good

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Speaker 3: and he taught you know, Ted McMillan reminded him a

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: He wasn't not when he first got here, but he's

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Speaker 3: I'm saying to myself, Oh, if I could have a

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Speaker 3: And we've all seen Brandon Aubrey walk out there for

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Speaker 3: too many kicks. Can you just throw the end zone

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Speaker 3: it homeboy, jump up again? He doesn't that alone right there?

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Speaker 4: Dog?

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Speaker 3: Going the last two years, where could the Cowboys have

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Speaker 3: been in some of these close football games if you can,

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Speaker 3: het man, just Joe jump and get.

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Speaker 1: It now, that's that's really I mean, if we think

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Speaker 1: about how Dez played, and Dez was a you know,

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Speaker 1: red zone touchdown. You throw it up near me, I'll

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Speaker 1: go get it. Yeah, that's that's worth it. I could

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Speaker 5: Yeah, red zone threat. I don't feel like they've had

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Speaker 5: that true possession red zone threat since Dez. They have

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Speaker 5: so many times last year they get inside the twenty

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Speaker 5: And then when Brandon Cooks got hurt, everyone looked around like,

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Speaker 5: all right, so who's gonna run that now? And nobody

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Speaker 5: could they need a possession?

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Speaker 2: The Giants were the only team in the NFL worse

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Speaker 4: Yeah, goodness, gracious, so I have put in it.

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Speaker 3: That's if he's there I don't think he's gonna be

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Speaker 3: there personally, I don't think McMillan's gonna be there to welve.

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Speaker 3: But if he's there, isn't that skill worth a lot

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Speaker 3: been the past few seasons?

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Speaker 2: Is he is he gonna win fifty to fifty balls

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Speaker 2: against guys who don't play for New Mexico?

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Speaker 1: Well, he gave Travis huntterda at work? When do you

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 2: He got shut down by Travis Hunter. I think he

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Speaker 2: only had thirty eight yards in receiving against Travis Hunter.

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Speaker 3: I will say this, okay, because if you're out here

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Speaker 3: So if this guy's got one on one coverage against

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Speaker 3: somebody's number two corner, I feel good about McMillan. That's

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Speaker 3: just me, just just my thoughts. But you covered him,

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Speaker 3: and you spend a lot more time covering this young man.

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Speaker 2: Than you like him or a guy like Golden who

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Speaker 2: has great speed and regularly creates separation and gets open.

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Speaker 5: I like McMillan. I think the playmaking ability is going

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Speaker 5: to be more frequent with McMillan I think he can

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Speaker 5: run more of a routree. I think his hands are

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Speaker 5: sure Golden. I think Golden is a talented player, but

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Speaker 5: he's my fourth best receiver behind Abuka and Burden. I

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Speaker 5: think you agree the question there. Look, he can produce

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Speaker 5: see that that speed show up in play speed because

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Speaker 5: he would have houst it. But he had some safety

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Speaker 5: that looked like me, you know, going and tracking him down.

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Speaker 5: It's like, where does that play speed translate onto the field?

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Speaker 5: And so I wonder how that'll play. Also, there's going

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Speaker 5: to be a little bit of a transition period. I

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Speaker 5: think if Matthew Golden were to come here, there's gonna

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Speaker 5: training camp, but early in the season. And I know

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Speaker 5: we're looking long term projection. If you're looking four years out,

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Speaker 5: it could look a lot different. He played seventy five

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Speaker 5: percent of his snaps lined up out wide. There's going

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Speaker 5: to be a lot of versatility and interchanging between him

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Speaker 5: and Ceede Lamb. There's similar type weapons. How does Schottenheimer

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Speaker 5: balance that? Not only do I think it would be

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Speaker 5: an easier task to just throw McMillan out wide, I

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Speaker 5: do think he would be able to open up CD

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Speaker 5: a lot more in the in the in between, the

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Speaker 5: slot and things like that.

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Speaker 1: Now, for me, I'm all about who's the better player, Like,

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Speaker 1: I understand the fit, but I.

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Speaker 5: Don't understand that who's the better play mc millan For me?

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Speaker 3: Go back into what you talked about your Golden's not

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Speaker 3: you know your number two guy either, you speak to

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Speaker 3: your Buckeye a Mecca Abuka when they talked about at

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Speaker 3: the press conference, what they were looking for in terms

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Speaker 3: of you want competitors, you want people to have high character.

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Speaker 2: So Andy has a relationship with your receivers coach.

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Speaker 5: He does Junior Adams, the receivers coach here. He recruited

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Speaker 3: ED go back to when Jimmy was here, when Jimmy

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Speaker 4: Competed Mike Obuka.

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Speaker 2: Well, and he was doing it at Ohio State. I

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Speaker 2: That's what he's been in his whole career at Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: And that's great. Initially here that you know he recognizes

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Speaker 5: Yeah, to speak to Ed's point, he was a number

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Speaker 2: And Will Howard, the quarterback won the National Championship with him,

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Speaker 5: That's awesome.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I just I don't think McMillan will be there,

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Speaker 1: I'm not taking Nick Buka at twelve. I slide back

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Speaker 3: And so when Nick nick Heatman asked me, Hey, who

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Speaker 4: I went with a Meco Buka.

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Speaker 3: I believe in a trade down, there's somebody's gonna want

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Speaker 4: What do I do?

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Speaker 3: And Jerry will take your call? And at the press

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Speaker 3: conference he seemed like trader Jerry was back in.

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Speaker 4: He's trader.

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Speaker 2: Driff got the hat on seventy two draft day trades

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Speaker 2: for Jerry, I'm back.

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Speaker 5: You gotta call me though, correct, gotta call me. I

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Speaker 5: ain't calling nobody.

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Speaker 4: Right right, And that's what we wants.

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Speaker 2: Leverage.

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Speaker 1: That's leverage the first person makes Kyle has loses leverage.

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Speaker 3: Yeah so so I I just anyway, I think it's

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Speaker 3: who is your favorite Dallas Cowboy draft pick that you

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Speaker 1: Oh that's easy. That's the Darren Woodson.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Steve Walsh for all the turmoil that created after the

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Speaker 4: Got to become good friends with Troy. Troy, I got

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Speaker 5: I haven't been here long, but Marvin Overshawan.

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Speaker 4: You know what, man, I will.

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Speaker 3: I enjoyed covering Troy, but I wasn't here when he

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Speaker 3: cover DeMarcus where from knowing how Bill Parcell's argued with

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Speaker 4: That was that was pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: I was being a little facetious with my Steve Walsh pick,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean that was a great draft.

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Speaker 4: I was here.

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Speaker 2: Bill Parcells actually encouraged me to be here because they

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Speaker 2: had two first round picks and it was going to

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Speaker 2: you sit down with me and have like a production

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Speaker 2: to be. And I won't reveal anything that would damage

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Speaker 2: you obviously in advance of you making a pick. But

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Speaker 2: I would like to understand the whole thing, and he said,

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Speaker 2: absolutely not. You know, we can't jeopardize our picks and

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Speaker 2: somebody else and I reported it and he got pissed

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Speaker 2: off to the point that he walks out and he goes,

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Speaker 2: who's telling you this? He says, And then he says,

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Speaker 2: I'm still going to do the live interview with you,

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Speaker 2: but you know you could have really heard us who

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Speaker 4: He said, the tooth fair, They said, man, just give

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Speaker 4: me will McDonald treat.

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Speaker 5: It's a great story.

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Speaker 2: But I had met him at you know, Cowboys golf

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Speaker 2: Club randomly before the draft, and he was like, you

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Speaker 2: got to you got to be here. Where you going

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Speaker 2: and he said we should be with us, and I said, well,

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Speaker 2: I the one way I know I could get ESPN

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Speaker 2: then got mad at me about, you know, his lack

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Speaker 2: And then but but he promised me he was still

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Speaker 2: going to do it as mad as he was and

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Speaker 2: obviously none because they wound up executing they're flying perfectly,

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Speaker 3: Which was you know, you go back that Sean Merriman

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Speaker 4: And then because remember Sean Merriman came.

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Speaker 2: Out, he was a better player, more productive player. Initially

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Speaker 3: More productive player, was getting more sacks and where it's like, man,

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Speaker 3: you got me blocking, I don't just get to go

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Speaker 2: Him right, small school guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so so that was that was really fun

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Speaker 3: So it was it was a heck of a pick

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Speaker 3: the clock at twelve and Jerry Jones talked on it

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Speaker 3: is pretty draft press conference about you know, working on

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Speaker 3: two things here is is Jerry just talking or do

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Speaker 3: we think Jerry's really working on two things.

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Speaker 5: Let's start what you nick, I believe so because whenever

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Speaker 5: you look at this team and the needs that they have,

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Speaker 5: it's more than the premium draft picks that they have

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Speaker 5: available to them, and it throws a wrench into what

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Speaker 5: we think they could be doing here in the first

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Speaker 5: two days. It's trade possibilities that we don't know about.

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Speaker 5: So let's say they come out of the first two

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Speaker 5: days without a corner. We're looking around like, who the

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Speaker 5: hell is gonna start at corner in week one? Maybe

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Speaker 5: they have something down the pipeline. And that's kind of

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Speaker 5: how it worked out at running back last year, right

468
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Speaker 5: as we all looked around like when are they gonna

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Speaker 5: draft a running back? And then Jerry's speaking confidence into

470
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Speaker 5: ze g Elliott and bringing him in. So these outside

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Speaker 5: options definitely factor in. You just wonder where and what

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Speaker 5: position group supposed to be.

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Speaker 1: Now, clearly they need a better plan than net this year.

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Speaker 5: I agree he still out there.

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Speaker 2: By the way, it's hard to envision the Cowboys and

476
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Speaker 2: making a major trade giving away major draft collateral because

477
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Speaker 2: everybody now just values these picks now more than ever,

478
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Speaker 2: like today and tomorrow. That's that's what you waited all

479
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Speaker 2: year for is to use these this commodity. But I

480
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Speaker 2: also remember Randy Moscott traded, you know, going into Day two.

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Speaker 2: So it's happened that great players have been moved from

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Speaker 2: one team to another, even after the first day of

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Speaker 2: the draft and before the start of the second day.

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Speaker 1: That definitely think they're going down. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: if they get an opportunity, I think they'll move down.

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Speaker 1: I don't even I mean, I think they're seeking an opportunity.

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Speaker 2: Well, that makes sense, right, They've this is a team

488
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Speaker 2: that's got so many holes in their roster. They're in

489
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Speaker 2: a division with the defending Super Bowl champion and a

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Speaker 2: Washington team on the rise at play in the NFC

491
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Speaker 2: Championship game last year. Look at all the holes they

492
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Speaker 2: have to fill. They don't have a fourth round pick.

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Speaker 2: Most people think this is a draft where you can

494
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Speaker 2: get four or five starting players on a good team,

495
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Speaker 2: and so if that's the objective, then trading back seems

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Speaker 2: like a very realistic possibility.

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Speaker 3: Something you said right before the break it intrigued me

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Speaker 3: when you said you thought, maybe there's only six blue

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Speaker 3: chip players here in this draft.

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Speaker 4: If you're sitting at twelve in a blue chip player there,

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Speaker 4: what do you do?

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Speaker 3: And I'll give you an example, but take him, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I'll just throw it one out there.

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Speaker 4: I got him, Tyler Warren.

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Speaker 1: Okay, cool?

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Speaker 4: I take him tied in at Penn State.

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Speaker 1: Cool.

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Speaker 4: If you're sitting at twelve and he's.

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Speaker 2: There, you Jake, I mean, Jake Ferguson was really good

510
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Speaker 2: early in his career, not so great last year. We

511
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Speaker 2: talked about it earlier, talked about guys who can score touchdowns,

512
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Speaker 2: red zone guys, versatile players. I mean, this guy even

513
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Speaker 2: played wild cat quarterback right at Penn State. I'd absolutely

514
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Speaker 2: take Warren.

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Speaker 1: Can you make a can you make a play? Do

516
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Speaker 1: you make those better? It ain't. You ain't got to

517
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Speaker 1: overthink these things, man. That's what happens too many times.

518
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Speaker 1: People started over there.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you're talking about this guy being a

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Speaker 2: blue chip tight end, remember Witten's the greatest tight end

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Speaker 2: in history and a potential Hall of Famer. He's a

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Speaker 2: second round pick. Was he a third? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Third?

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Speaker 2: So if Warren rates that much higher than a guy

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Speaker 2: like Witten, now maybe he won't have the career. He

526
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Speaker 2: probably won't have the career that Witton had. But folks, will,

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Speaker 2: but I mean, geez, for all the things that Warren

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Speaker 2: can do, and he is demonstrated he's able to do

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Speaker 2: it in a major college against great competition, I would

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Speaker 2: absolutely stick there.

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Speaker 1: And then if you certainly run a ball, you can

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Speaker 1: certainly do toil personnel and then get him on both

533
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Speaker 1: out there.

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Speaker 5: You certainly could dangle it in front of a team too.

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Speaker 5: I think there could be some trade value if a

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Speaker 5: guy like Tyler Warren is there at twelve and a

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Speaker 5: tight end needy team. You think about the Colts that

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Speaker 5: they're looking to at fourteen, Yeah, they're looking to grab

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Speaker 5: a tight end here.

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Speaker 2: They had the worst tight end production in the NFL last.

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Speaker 5: Year off when their room is awful, and that's you

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Speaker 5: could slide back to fourteen and probably pick up a

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Speaker 5: day two pick.

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Speaker 2: What about Denver slots? I mean, Sean Payton has talked

545
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Speaker 2: about needing a joker player in his off. Isn't that

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Speaker 2: what Warren would be?

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Speaker 4: So? Is he a blue chip on your board?

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Speaker 2: He is?

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Speaker 5: Yes, I would. I would try to dangle that in

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Speaker 5: front of teams as much as I could. But if

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Speaker 5: I had to stick and pick, I'd stick and pick.

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Speaker 4: Can you can you reveal your blue chips for him.

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Speaker 4: Let's go.

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Speaker 5: Let's Travis Hunter, Genty Carter, ab Dual Carter out of

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Speaker 5: Penn State, Well Campbell Lsu. I have Ted McMillan at

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Speaker 5: five out of Arizona, Kelvin Banks out of Texas, Mason

557
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Speaker 5: Graham out of Michigan, and then that's that's where i'd

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Speaker 5: probably have Tyler Warren.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so the last of your blue chippers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay, let's let's throw Banks from from Texas.

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Speaker 3: If he's sitting there, are we are you all in agreement?

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Speaker 3: Take the take the blue chip player at offensive line.

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Speaker 1: If people we planning him in techle were planning him.

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Speaker 5: A guard, probably that's at least a leak thought around

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Speaker 5: around Kelvin Banks, But it would be you'd have to

566
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Speaker 5: shuffle some things up. I feel like maybe you could

567
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Speaker 5: probably put him at right guard and he'd be fine.

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Speaker 5: He has the he has the football knowledge to apply that,

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Speaker 5: and I think he has a work ethic to figure

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Speaker 5: it out. But it would be requiring a move from

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Speaker 5: left tackle to right guard. That would be interesting.

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Speaker 2: Gee, we we saw how easy that was last year

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Speaker 2: for the guy that drafted moved from right tackle to

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Speaker 2: left tackle.

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Speaker 3: That guy wasn't that talented real, he was not a

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Speaker 3: blue chip player. In his defense, he was not a

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Speaker 3: blue chip.

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Speaker 1: Player and ain't his fault they overdrafted him.

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Speaker 5: He was always going to be a development project too.

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Speaker 5: I mean, we knew that when the pick was When

581
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Speaker 5: the pick was made, you would expect the development to

582
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Speaker 5: be a lot further along.

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Speaker 2: There were things that were within his control. You say

584
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Speaker 2: that wasn't his fault that he was overdrafted, but there

585
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Speaker 2: were things maybe within his control that he didn't control

586
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Speaker 2: very well, like what like being available, like practicing.

587
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Speaker 5: Adding weight throughout the season. It felt like he dropped

588
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Speaker 5: away as the season went on. Penalty issues. Yeah, that's

589
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Speaker 5: a good standard.

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Speaker 2: Did you say, Mazie, he said, I said, dropped during

591
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Speaker 2: the season special.

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Speaker 1: He's trying to get his speedover game.

593
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Speaker 2: But what so, what wide receivers are you passing up

594
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Speaker 2: in that scenario, you're passing up the two guys we

595
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Speaker 2: talked about earlier, Abuka and Golden to take an offensive

596
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Speaker 2: lineman again, Well, I know, I know, best player available.

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Speaker 3: Well you said, but you know in this term not

598
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Speaker 3: just best, but we're talking blue chips. Let's say if

599
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Speaker 3: you only have six, if you say, hey, there's six

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Speaker 3: blue chip player.

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Speaker 2: Or whatever Nick had. It was probably a little more

602
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Speaker 2: than sixty seven or eight.

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Speaker 1: But like somebody would if that's the case, somebody would be, oh,

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Speaker 1: I can't believe Kelvin Banks is still there. Let's go

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Speaker 1: get it. Yeah, And then I moved back to them

606
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Speaker 1: as long as it wouldn't like twenty eight.

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Speaker 3: Once again, this is this is the interesting part, and

608
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Speaker 3: it's just just me, but.

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Speaker 2: They did have they did have a hall of potential

610
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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame player at right guard when last season started.

611
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Speaker 2: Who's not there anymore? And they do want to be

612
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Speaker 2: able to run the football, So that's maybe the investment

613
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Speaker 2: that's required.

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Speaker 5: An interesting name to throw out as a Gray's Abel

615
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Speaker 5: offensive lineman out of North Dakota State, he would be

616
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Speaker 5: able to slide into right guard, and you talk about

617
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Speaker 5: needing to elevate that room a little bit, he would

618
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Speaker 5: be able to do that. He's a day once.

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Speaker 2: He dominated at the Senior bowlright, That's why he kind

620
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Speaker 2: of forced himself into the first round.

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Speaker 5: Guy rocketed his stuff, he scored.

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Speaker 2: He's what started at four different positions on the offensive line.

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Speaker 5: Every guy at the center exactly, say this guy is

624
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Speaker 5: six foot six, three hundred and twelve pounds and he

625
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Speaker 5: vert jumps thirty six and a half inches.

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Speaker 1: Okay, now we're not worried about six six four guard.

627
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Speaker 1: That's lovely tall four guard.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I understand that. It's it's the length that

629
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Speaker 5: he did he had. He does have some length concerns

630
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Speaker 5: with teams, But there are teams who thinks he can

631
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Speaker 5: play tackle too. There are teams that think he can play.

632
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Speaker 5: He signed like a tackle would. Yeah, I have him.

633
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Speaker 5: I have him as a guard.

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Speaker 2: North Dakota State. Lack of competition and concern there.

635
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Speaker 5: Whenever he elevated at the Senior Bowl and really dominated

636
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Speaker 5: there play that was that was eye opening to me. Also,

637
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Speaker 5: this offensive line coach here coach at North Kota State

638
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Speaker 5: for six seven seasons, won multiple national championships there, so

639
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Speaker 5: he has a good insight to that program. The only

640
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Speaker 5: thing I worry about was Zabel is He's a little gravvy,

641
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Speaker 5: but great in the run game. Lots of experience in

642
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Speaker 5: the run game. If you need a guy that wants

643
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Speaker 5: to dominate and be physical, like Schottenheimer's talked about, this

644
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Speaker 5: wouldn't make a lot of sense.

645
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Speaker 3: What about the numbers they keep throwing it offensive line.

646
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 3: They've signed a lot of offensive lineman here, which to me

647
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 3: makes me just think, Okay, they feel like we'll just

648
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Speaker 3: throw a bunch of bodies at this thing and we'll

649
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Speaker 3: figure it out and we'll try to make and address

650
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Speaker 3: the needs.

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Speaker 2: In other I think it's been five offensive linemen in

652
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Speaker 2: the last fifteen years that they've taken in the first round,

653
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Speaker 2: but the only one they've taken in the top fifteen

654
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Speaker 2: is Tyron Smith. The other guys are all in the twenties.

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Speaker 2: I guess Zach Matt was fourteen.

656
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Speaker 4: Right, was in the teams.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if you're going to run the football,

658
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 2: that's what it takes. And I think, I mean Jerry knows,

659
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Speaker 2: speaking from his point of view and how he wants

660
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Speaker 2: to build a team and how Steven wants to build

661
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Speaker 2: a team. That's how That's what their best teams have been.

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Speaker 2: They've been able to run the football like that's what

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Speaker 2: That's what Jason Garrett did when he got here, right,

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Speaker 2: he made as Jerry said when Tyron Smith was retire

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Speaker 2: making his retirement anouncer, Tyron Smith being the number nine

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Speaker 2: pick and the success we had with him, he changed

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Speaker 2: our viewpoint on committing first round draft picks to offensive

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Speaker 2: linemen because they hadn't done it since nineteen eighty one

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Speaker 2: until then, and that's that those were Garrett's best teams.

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Speaker 3: You know, and their best but the best running backs

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Speaker 3: in their history of the first round guys, there's.

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Speaker 4: Something to be said for that.

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Speaker 3: I know DeMarco Murray won NFL Player of the Year,

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Speaker 3: he was a third round pick. But I mean when

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Speaker 3: you look at Emmitt Smith, you look at Tony dor

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Speaker 3: set me, he's the first round guys.

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Speaker 2: Even Zeke was a two time NFL rushing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: So so I say that in terms of there is

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Speaker 3: something to be said to go taking a guy in

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Speaker 3: the first round who can absolutely play.

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Speaker 4: And I think.

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Speaker 3: I said on the last show, my surprise pick, where like,

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Speaker 3: hey man, we didn't we sat on it, but we

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Speaker 3: had we thought this guy can help us. Would be

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Speaker 3: Hampton out of North Carolina, because I don't think genty

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Speaker 3: will be there twelve first.

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Speaker 4: I don't think you'd be there, but I.

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Speaker 3: Could see them somebody falling in love with a Hampton

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Speaker 3: and Shoddy being a guy, you know, running the ball

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Speaker 3: and his dad and everything, like, hey, we think this

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Speaker 3: is a three down back. We can get out here

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Speaker 3: and get it done. That would be like, hey, they

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Speaker 3: did it. That could be my surprise thing that where's

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Speaker 3: he on your stacked on your running back listening?

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Speaker 2: Anyways?

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Speaker 5: Show a few Jerseys Hampton, Hampton's third. I have him

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Speaker 5: behind Jency and Trevon Henderson.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so look they've got to get it back at

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Speaker 4: some point time.

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Speaker 2: But I'm just which one is a better pass receiver

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Speaker 2: Henderson for sure and better bullet blitz pick up guy.

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Speaker 1: Yep, non partial to Henton, but he's a bad man.

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Speaker 5: Really, I wasn't partially. I have a first round great

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Speaker 5: on him. I think I think I think he elevated

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Speaker 5: a playoff.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's good during regular season, but the playoff he's.

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Speaker 2: That's what they do around here. He's like, they're good

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Speaker 2: in the in the regular season and great in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Can run it, I can catch it. And he had

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Speaker 1: a couple of devastating blitz pick ups in the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean they they took another guy who had

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Speaker 3: a good little playoff run over there at Stadium and Arlington.

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Speaker 2: He did great form about four years and Shoty. What

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Speaker 2: is his teams is where he's called plays. The Jets

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Speaker 2: and the Seahawks both led the NFL and rushing with

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Speaker 2: him calling the play. So to me, that's where this

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Speaker 2: team has to go. And that's like I said to

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Speaker 2: you before, like if the greatest justification to me in

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Speaker 2: moving from Mike McCarthy to Brian Schottenheimer, with schottenheimer'll run

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Speaker 2: the football, McCarthy was never going to do that. And

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Speaker 2: so if this organization's front office wanted to move this

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Speaker 2: team in that direction, which is the way they've succeeded

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Speaker 2: in the postseason they won their championships, then Shottenheimer makes

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Speaker 2: more sense to McCarthy.

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Speaker 3: All right, So let me just throw this out here.

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Speaker 3: Running back or wide receiver. If you're the Cowboys, where

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Speaker 3: do you go in the first round?

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Speaker 1: Wellide receiver it because there's more running backs. I agree

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Speaker 1: with that.

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Speaker 5: Agree This running back class is so deep. I have

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Speaker 5: thirty one with draftable grades. You're gonna find your guy?

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Speaker 1: Well do you guys? Gotaboo it?

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Speaker 5: I have a last one of the third and it

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Speaker 5: honestly hurt me to put that third round on there.

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Speaker 5: But he deserves it. He really does this. He's a dog.

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Speaker 4: What about gettings over there at K State.

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Speaker 5: I have he's the top one in my fifth round.

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Speaker 5: He's super long and lanky, kind of upright and narrow.

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Speaker 5: I think that's gonna lead to some issues, not only

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Speaker 5: durability wise at the NFL level, but guys just being

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Speaker 5: able to bring him down a little bit easier. I

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Speaker 5: like to contact balance with a lot more.

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Speaker 2: Other guys and Cowboys having drafted a running back in

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Speaker 2: four of the last five drafts, the last draft they

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Speaker 2: took the last draft, the last player they drafted at

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Speaker 2: running back was too fun That he's the only player

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Speaker 2: in the last forty three selections at running back that

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Speaker 2: they've taken.

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Speaker 5: That's wild, that's mighty.

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Speaker 2: Gonna take one, wow early in this draft.

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Speaker 5: Certainly right Friday.

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Speaker 4: Certainly it has to go down Friday.

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Speaker 5: If we're going into Saturday and they haven't made a

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Speaker 5: pick yet, oh my goodness, it has to be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they gotta get it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it has to happen in the first three picks,

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Speaker 2: first three rounds. By tomorrow. They better have a by

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Speaker 2: tomorrow night. They better.

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Speaker 1: To me, that's why they need to trade down, because

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Speaker 1: that extra third, hopefully third, maybe fourth. But to that

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Speaker 1: you pick up, you the flexibility and maneuverability to solve

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Speaker 1: some of these problems you get.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I mean all thirty of these guys aren't going

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Speaker 2: to be great NFL starting running correct, Yeah, and so

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Speaker 2: that's why you need to pick him something.

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Speaker 1: You need to get the guy you want, not the

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Speaker 1: guy who's left.

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Speaker 5: Over facial tooting out of Virginia Tech at seventy six.

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Speaker 5: That would be big play guy, big speed guy, early

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Speaker 5: down guy.

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Speaker 2: A lot of fumbles though, nine fumbles.

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Speaker 1: That would be all right, small hands.

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Speaker 2: Everybody chased the ball.

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Speaker 3: By the way, I come out NFL network a mecca

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Speaker 3: and we're looking a him as the number two, and

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Speaker 3: then the guy who's just the number one over him

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Speaker 3: was Marvin Harrison junior Mike.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And to be able to compete and work in a

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Speaker 4: room like that with me.

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Speaker 3: I want guys like that because you're playing at a

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Speaker 3: high level with I mean, you're playing with.

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Speaker 2: Some world class competitors.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Just to get on a field, yes, to get I

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Speaker 3: mean the I mean, can you imagine the sadness.

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Speaker 4: Oh you're you know, you're some great high school all

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Speaker 4: world player and you go see the depth Charter Ohio

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Speaker 4: State man.

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Speaker 1: But that's why you go. I mean, just like you

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Speaker 1: go at other place for other things, you go go

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Speaker 1: to compete against the best, because if I can make

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Speaker 1: it here, I can do it well.

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Speaker 3: But in today's society, how many of these kids don't

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Speaker 3: even they they won't stick around and compete. And look,

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Speaker 3: we have seen some really good players go ahead and

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Speaker 3: tell Columba thank you and roll on and do Okay,

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Speaker 3: Joe Burrow did, I couldn't yours?

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Speaker 1: Did?

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Speaker 9: All?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 6: Man?

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Speaker 1: Jameson Williams left, Yeah, I need to play.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so and so for him Camore leaving incarnate word

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Speaker 2: to become the number one pick in the NFL draft.

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Speaker 3: Hey, you gotta do what you gotta do. You gotta

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Speaker 3: do what you gotta do. But I I just I

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Speaker 3: find value in that. And to me, I think that's

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Speaker 3: something that people don't talk about enough as you're going

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Speaker 3: through this process. But if the Cowboys are being true

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Speaker 3: to what they say about wanting character, about wanting to compete, let.

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Speaker 1: Me ask you this, So, what if you could trade

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Speaker 1: for a runner for it took I don't know whatever

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Speaker 1: picket took to get Pickens or Jamison Williams one, would

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Speaker 1: you want that? As opposed to a draft pie.

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Speaker 4: I don't want no pickickens. I don't want no.

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Speaker 5: Pickings, talk about guys. It wouldn't work here.

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Speaker 2: Well, Jayler's not here anymore, so it might we wouldn't

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Speaker 2: have that rich.

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Speaker 5: At least that'd be such a middle finger.

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Speaker 3: of the NFL drafts could be held in Green Bay, Wisconsin.

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Speaker 3: The Cowboys on the twelfth overall pick. We have Jacques

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Speaker 3: Taylor ed Werder got the Carris. I am new he scruggs.

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Speaker 2: Okay, things don't usually go well for Dallas. It happened

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Speaker 2: in Green Bay.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but they sent Matt Pittman up there for Meat Church,

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Speaker 3: so his kids are gonna help make one of the picks,

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Speaker 3: so hopefully they'll bring him, bring him some good luck.

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Speaker 3: We've not talked at all all about the defensive line

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Speaker 3: and the Cowboys can't stop the run, and not enough

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Speaker 3: was done in the offseason. Right now, it made me

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Speaker 3: feel good about that. Uh don't know what they'll do

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Speaker 3: at twelve. Haven't seen anyone as a defensive tackle. Mock

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Speaker 3: to them at twelve at all, But Nick Harris will

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Speaker 3: start with you. You've got your big draft board out there.

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Speaker 3: The Cowboys do need to at some point in time

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Speaker 3: make some picks to address the run because I don't know,

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Speaker 3: you know, it's dude, a Saquon Barkleay's in the league,

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Speaker 3: in the division.

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Speaker 4: That kind of.

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Speaker 5: Thing I have seen Walter Nolan mocked at twelve quite

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Speaker 5: a bit, especially over the course of the last twenty

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00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 5: four hours too. So that's that's one to potentially keep

884
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 5: an eye on. Are we just focusing on defense sacle

885
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 5: or the D line in general?

886
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 4: You d line in general?

887
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,240
Speaker 5: I think at twelve you can also look at mikeil

888
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 5: Williams out of Georgia, Shamar Stewart out of Texas, A

889
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 5: and m two guys that they've done a lot of

890
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 5: homework on understand who they are and potentially what they

891
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 5: could bring from a run defense perspective. I think there's

892
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 5: a lot of emphasis. It's funny you mentioned that there's

893
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,240
Speaker 5: a lot of emphasis I think from the scouting department

894
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 5: and trying to find guys that specialize in defending the runs.

895
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 5: So those would be the two day one on guys.

896
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 5: I'd look at day two. That's where things start to

897
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 5: open up a little bit. You could look at a

898
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 5: James Piercetewne out of Tennessee. If they know felt like

899
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 5: the character concerns, they could check that off and be

900
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 5: all right with that I wouldn't, but the defensive tackle position,

901
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 5: Kenneth Grant, who had six four to three hundred and

902
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 5: thirty pounds. He's got crazy speed. I actually saw him

903
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 5: working out during the pre draft process, and that's one

904
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 5: of the fastest humans I've ever seen at that size.

905
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 2: Michigan defensive Town.

906
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 5: Michigan defensive tackle.

907
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 6: Yeah.

908
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 5: And then another guy they've done a lot of homework

909
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 5: on that we said, Michigan defensive tackle. And another guy

910
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 5: I've seen them do a lot of homework on is

911
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 5: Alfred Collins out of Texas sixty six three thirty two.

912
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 5: And he's just specializes in the run game. Doesn't have

913
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 5: a ton of pass rush upside. The only thing he

914
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 5: brings to the pass game is that he's got these

915
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 5: huge claws that go up and bat balls down at

916
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 5: the line. But he could play one tech, he could

917
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 5: play three tech. Give you some versatility there. He is

918
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 5: dealing with a pretty nasty calf strain though, so he

919
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 5: probably wouldn't be ready till training.

920
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 3: Kim and Super Bowl teams you covered they were really

921
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 3: good on the defensive line and yeah.

922
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 2: And Matty Eberfluss is talking about, you know, concentrating personnel

923
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 2: there and having an eight or nine man wave of

924
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 2: players that you know, rotate in the game at various times.

925
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 2: And I think because we're so focused on their need

926
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 2: for offensive, dynamic playmakers, we overlooked the defense. The defense

927
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 2: was thirty first in the NFL last year. Only Carolina

928
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,439
Speaker 2: allowed more points, and they allowed more points than any

929
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 2: team in NFL history. And you know, you talk about

930
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 2: being able to stop the run, they were thirtieth in

931
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 2: the NFL in yards allowed per rush, almost five yards

932
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 2: per carry against them. And as you mentioned, the NFL

933
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 2: rushing champion, Saquon Barkley plays in this division, as do

934
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 2: two of the best running quarterbacks in football, and Jalen

935
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 2: Hurts and Jayden Daniels, and so yeah, that's got to

936
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 2: be a priority for them to fix this defense. And

937
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 2: too often, I don't think, you know, fans and media

938
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 2: recognized just how desperate they are on that side of

939
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 2: the ball, and they're playing They have their third defensive

940
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 2: coordinator in three years that you know, MC is trying

941
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 2: to draft personnel for a third different guy. I mean,

942
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,959
Speaker 2: that's that can't be easy. So every everybody that ibra

943
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 2: Flus and Harris isn't gonna fit ideally into what he's

944
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 2: doing because they weren't drafted for him.

945
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,760
Speaker 4: And you have to play the AFC West this year, so.

946
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 2: They have any good quarterbacks in the NFC one.

947
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 4: Good quarterbacks and you know, and you got head coaches.

948
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 2: Who have won Super Bowls who.

949
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 4: Like running the ball, running the ball.

950
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: So with this Peyton with his harbor Andy Reid these days.

951
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:28,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's problem.

952
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 2: It's problem is that Pete Carroll.

953
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: I was gonna say Pete Carroll's that was That's what

954
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: he's at a running back.

955
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 2: But the Raiders are horrible running the football. But they

956
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 2: might not be coming.

957
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 3: Out of this if you get genty. You know, if

958
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 3: they end up getting genty up here, the.

959
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 5: Trouble trouble would be a fun trip to Vegas.

960
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 4: Trouble who.

961
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 1: For who?

962
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 2: Tourists? Yeah, yeah, no, look, not football teams.

963
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 3: They just have to go get better on the defensive

964
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 3: line or this can be another you know, seven win season.

965
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 3: I mean, this is this is something that has to

966
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 3: be addressed. And I know it's easy for us to

967
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 3: talk about these fantasy football players, but Jack, they got it.

968
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 4: They got addressed.

969
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: No, no, they do. That's that's the first thing. But

970
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: it all works together. It's all symbiatic. I mean, you

971
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: have to have a much better offense. If you get

972
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: a better running game, you get better receivers, you get

973
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: a better offense is more explosively if you stay on

974
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: the field long and scot more points.

975
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 2: Is there no way they would take a pass rusher

976
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 2: at twelve pair with Michael Parsons.

977
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 5: Marshall, Michael Williams and Shamar Stewart definitely had that type

978
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 5: of upside, especially Shamar Stewart. He didn't have the sack

979
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 5: production at Texas A and M four and a half sacks, but.

980
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 1: Then he can't be back.

981
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with you. I have a third round

982
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 5: great on him. But teams love his athleticism and they

983
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 5: see his quarterback pressure numbers and they take that. I

984
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 5: agree with you.

985
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 1: Ye'all tell me the last dude got paid for precious.

986
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, so Dicky, oh yeah, might be right.

987
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 3: Anthony Spencer almost Anthony almost almost a almost got that.

988
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: I mean, coaches always talk about it the pressures, and

989
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: the pressure matter is, but it make us pay for sex.

990
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 2: But I think the signing ohso Diggy Zoo back to

991
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 2: a contract was a significant move and a significant you know,

992
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 2: commitment to the defense and the eber Flu's yes, and

993
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,720
Speaker 2: a recognition that that's an area of concern.

994
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 4: Yes, they just need more bodies, but at.

995
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 2: Least they're not trying to replace him and get somebody else,

996
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 2: which is the situation they face if they didn't commit

997
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 2: the big dollars and they got a favorable contract.

998
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 4: Look, they they they did that.

999
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 2: When it came they won that good right, there have

1000
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 2: been many they won. They won that one.

1001
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 3: When it came to that, that whole situation, they did

1002
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 3: a good job there. There's just more work that needs

1003
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 3: to be done. But you know, if we're looking at

1004
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 3: at Knick's board here, there's really not that definitely not

1005
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:42,399
Speaker 3: a blue chip.

1006
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 2: But what about a corner? I think there I think

1007
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 2: there's more concern on the coaching staff about not having

1008
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,720
Speaker 2: a slot corner ready to go, and people really.

1009
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: From Michigan.

1010
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 5: Will Johnson, I think he actually does have some nickel versatility.

1011
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 5: I I I wouldn't take him at twelve. He's my

1012
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,439
Speaker 5: fourth corner on the I have him behind Travis Hunter,

1013
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 5: jodd A Baron out of Texas and Maxwell Harrison out

1014
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 5: of Kentucky. Maxwell Harrison out of Kentucky if he's somehow

1015
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 5: there at forty four, run the car to the table.

1016
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 5: I don't think he will be I think he's gonna

1017
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 5: go back in first round. But that's that would be

1018
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 5: my guy. And then a realistic forty four is Trey

1019
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 5: Almos had an ole miss. Now he's an outside guy,

1020
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 5: so you still have to figure out what's going on.

1021
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 2: Nicol Well, think I move Bland inside if they had to.

1022
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 2: He's played there before.

1023
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 5: You know, what's you know what's funny is like I

1024
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 5: wonder when they tell blend Hey go inside, knowing that

1025
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 5: a pay day's coming. I wonder how he's gonna take

1026
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 5: that durn Bland will probably take it in stride, but

1027
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 5: just knowing in the back of his agent won't. Yeah,

1028
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 5: his agent will be like, yo, hold on a minute.

1029
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 3: It's gonna be fun. It's gonna be a fun night.

1030
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 3: Obviously things will happen here and and we'll see I'm

1031
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 3: I will just be I will have the same feeling

1032
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 3: when Ted McMillan goes off the board. Early when I

1033
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 3: saw Patrick Richartan go off the board to Denver.

1034
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 2: That turned out okay.

1035
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 3: I was gonna say that one turned out pretty damn good,

1036
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 3: but at that moment in time.

1037
00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: It was some Chris fault.

1038
00:43:59,520 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 4: I was.

1039
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 3: I was because a certain certain fits like this guy

1040
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 3: you take certain Diggs, Yeah you're good.

1041
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 2: And Horton was the other guy they really wanted, right,

1042
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 2: but they wanted him. They wanted either one of those corners.

1043
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 2: And then right in front of them, they both go

1044
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 2: and they get stuck with Michael Parsons, trade back with

1045
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 2: the Giants pick stuck with him.

1046
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, so so that was just but certain I was.

1047
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 3: You know, you do all that bog drafting, hear this,

1048
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 3: I'm certain it just fits, it fits and nobody and

1049
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 3: then you come to find out I guess what, you

1050
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 3: know what, big fan do it the whole time.

1051
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 4: I get that guy and you're like on it.

1052
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 3: And that's why I'm not looking toward McMillan, because I'm

1053
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 3: just like, you know what, No, this is too good

1054
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 3: of a football player. And then you chill me your

1055
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 3: big board. They're like, ye see, seems too good of

1056
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 3: a football player to be hitting.

1057
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 5: There twelve this big fang, you know, the biggest Cowboys villain.

1058
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 5: Like over the course of like he's instant consistent villain.

1059
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 5: I mean, you're a different team.

1060
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh, Denver, Philly. Now he's in Philly.

1061
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 4: Taking a blueprint everywhere you go.

1062
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 3: See you got these guys and even said that, yes,

1063
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 3: as I said, the blueprint.

1064
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,439
Speaker 2: Adam, I got the blueprint on these guys.

1065
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 4: He just took a straight from jay Z to blue print.

1066
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 3: Will take jay Z's photo out to put big fangio

1067
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 3: and yes, yes he is that. Nick Harris, thank you,

1068
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 3: good Order, thank you, Jack Taylor, thank you Jazz, Chris Beam,

1069
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 3: everybody involved, Dallas Cowboy dot Com.

1070
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 4: I'm newly Scruggs. Enjoy the draft tonight.

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1072
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