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Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome into the Fantasy Pros Dynasty Football Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Ryan Warmley, joined as always by Pat Fitzmorris and

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Speaker 1: by Scott Bogman, and today we are talking running back

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Speaker 1: rankings and tiers. Just a heads up for everybody pulling

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Speaker 1: back to curtain. We are taping this about a week

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Speaker 1: prior to releasing this episode. I am going to be

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Speaker 1: traveling for a few weeks here, just some summer vacation stuff,

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Speaker 1: seeing family, friends, all that good stuff that you do

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Speaker 1: in the summer. And I didn't want to leave these

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Speaker 1: guys at the burden of taping so many shows without me,

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Speaker 1: so they will have to do some without me here,

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Speaker 1: but we wanted to at least tape ahead one of

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Speaker 1: them to help you guys out. And we figured running

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Speaker 1: back rankings and tears pretty evergreen, right, Like there's a

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Speaker 1: chance there's maybe an injury or some crazy trade we

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Speaker 1: weren't expecting, but in all likelihood, a week from now,

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Speaker 1: these Dynasty rankings and tears will look pretty similar to

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Speaker 1: the way they look today. But did just want to

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Speaker 1: say that and address it so in case something happens

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Speaker 1: or there is some unsuspect news that comes out and

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Speaker 1: we don't address it.

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Speaker 2: That is why I can't believe the vikings and now

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Speaker 2: said Clayhorn is going to be there starting running back

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Speaker 2: while you were gone, wough so weird.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's funny.

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Speaker 1: I almost wore because this is going to come out

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Speaker 1: a couple of days after the NBA Draft, so I

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Speaker 1: almost wore a Wizard's shirt for it, but I was like,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to wear a Wizard shirt but not

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Speaker 1: be able to celebrate whoever that pick is and have

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Speaker 1: to PreTect like, oh, I sure, I'm glad they took

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Speaker 1: in thhirt player name here. So I was like, I'll

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Speaker 1: just go ahead and not even bother with it. But yes,

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Speaker 1: this is being taped. I'll just say it's June eighteenth

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Speaker 1: is when we're taping this. So again, that kind of

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Speaker 1: gives everybody a point in time of where our heads

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Speaker 1: are at if something has happened between now and when

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Speaker 1: the show comes out. So hopefully everybody's okay rocking with

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Speaker 1: us here in the past, for you in the future.

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Speaker 3: For us.

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Speaker 1: A reminder for everybody that all of our twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: six consensus rankings and tiers can be found at fantasypros

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Speaker 1: dot com. Slash rankings. You can navigate to our Dynasty

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Speaker 1: rankings from there as well. Obviously, we're going to be

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Speaker 1: referencing that a lot because today's episode is based on

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Speaker 1: the rankings. The way we usually do the show, which

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Speaker 1: I think is kind of the most fun way to

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Speaker 1: do it, is we will go through what expert consensus

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Speaker 1: rankings say are each tier, and I will just kind

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Speaker 1: of react and say, we think these guys are too high,

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Speaker 1: too low in the right tier, but in the wrong place,

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Speaker 1: in the wrong tier entirely. Whatever we think about it,

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Speaker 1: it's a fun show to do. So if you want

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Speaker 1: to kind of follow along at fantasypros dot com slash rankings,

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Speaker 1: if you're at your computer on your phone, that can

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Speaker 1: maybe be helpful for you to see the same tiers

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Speaker 1: that we're looking at here. Again, these are the rankings

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Speaker 1: as the snapshot shows on June eighteenth. I think we

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Speaker 1: can go ahead and just dive in. We're going to

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Speaker 1: go through roughly the top six tiers. I cut off

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Speaker 1: tier six at the fiftieth overall player. It does go

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Speaker 1: a bit beyond that, but just kind of a nice

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Speaker 1: That's the most natural place to do it. A couple

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Speaker 1: universal of a rankings you're gonna find is that those two,

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Speaker 2: I think Gent belongs in here because he has potential

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Speaker 2: But again, JT is turning into one of those top

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Speaker 2: So I think all of that, coupled with the amount

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Speaker 2: popular opinion. Yeah, you know, it's funny. At least Jonathan

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Speaker 2: Taylor has kind of done it before. Genty really hasn't.

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Speaker 1: He's been in some amount of success, right, Like his

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Speaker 1: disappointing season was still you know, roughly, I think it

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor a little bit older, has done it before. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: Jonna Gibbso like, these guys have been top four at

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Speaker 2: Is might need to be their own tier. Honestly, That's

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Speaker 2: what I what I'm saying is.

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Speaker 1: I kind of think it the way I think about

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Speaker 1: tiers in Fitzal thirty year after this is. I like

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Speaker 1: to think of it as if two guys are in

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Speaker 1: would be kind of crazy in a startup to value

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Speaker 1: Bijeon or Gibbs lower than anybody other than Bijeon or Gibbs, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: It would really raise my eyebrows if Jensy went ahead

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Speaker 1: they should be in the same tier. What do you think, fits.

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Speaker 4: I would have Genty in this tier.

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Speaker 5: He could be in the top tier with Robinson and

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Speaker 5: Gibbs a year from now. But man, those guys have

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Speaker 5: and Beijon Robinson piles up ridiculous yardage numbers, and gent

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Speaker 5: just hasn't done it yet. And I know, like last

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Speaker 5: year should not be considered a disappointment for Genty because

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Speaker 5: the Raiders had a not very good offense and a

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Speaker 5: and Genty this year hopefully. I just don't think we

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like, like Bijon and Gibbs, I think

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Speaker 1: you could. I wouldn't do it just the way I

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Speaker 1: of round one of a startup, even in super Flex,

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Speaker 1: that says I just want to take one of these guys, Like,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't fight too hard against that, even if it

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be my approach. Genty, I would, which is kind

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Speaker 1: of the difference for me. Like, there's two running backs

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Speaker 1: that I think you could at least make a case

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Speaker 1: for as first round picks in a super Flex startup,

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Speaker 1: and Gensy's just not on that list, genty is really good,

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Speaker 1: though I don't want to frame it as too much

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Speaker 1: of a disappointment last year. I really just meant like

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Speaker 1: a rookie, like you, felt like a slight disappointment in

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Speaker 1: terms of production. Nothing disappointed me about the player himself.

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Speaker 1: I still think he's going to be very good, and

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Speaker 1: I totally agree with you like Wheels up for this season.

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Speaker 1: I'm really excited about him. But yeah, for me, it

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Speaker 1: would just be you know, Bijona Gibbs in that top one.

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Speaker 1: So as we look at tier two, then it's five names.

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Speaker 1: It's Jeremiah Love, Devon Hien, O'marion Hampton, James Cook, and

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor. Bogwan. You have already said that you would

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Speaker 1: have Taylor kind of up in tier one. So those

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Speaker 1: other four love a Chan, Hampton and Cook. Do you

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Speaker 1: have a favorite of that group?

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Speaker 2: No, I think this is the correct tier. I like

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Speaker 2: this order. I have eight Chan, Love, Cook, Hampton, so

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Speaker 2: that's my order. But I think this tier is correct.

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Speaker 1: It's a right names, different order fits. What do you

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Speaker 4: I feel the same way.

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Speaker 5: Move genty into this tier and this is the correct tier,

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Speaker 5: should be a six man tier instead of a five.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a besides genty? Do you have a

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Speaker 1: favorite in this tier?

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Speaker 4: Fits a favorite? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Like like this order wise? Do you have the right

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Speaker 1: this is the right names? But would you you know

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Speaker 1: Love is currently at the top of this tier again

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Speaker 1: not including gent. Would you prefer Taylor or Cook or

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Speaker 1: Hampton or you know, do you feel like it's kind

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Speaker 5: I have Hampton ahead of a Chin as much as

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Speaker 5: I love a Chin, I just worry about I felt

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Speaker 5: like he was uniquely set up for success with my

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Speaker 5: McDaniel there, and McDaniel had ways of getting a Chan

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Speaker 5: physical punishment, really good at getting him the ball in space.

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Speaker 5: I just I don't know if what the future is

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Speaker 5: going to look like for him, can he hold up

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Speaker 5: as a smaller back if he's used in kind of

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Speaker 5: a more conventional way. So I'd rather just go with

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Speaker 5: the big hammer in Hampton, who really hasn't done it yet.

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Speaker 5: And you know, oddly enough, I'm talking about a Chan's

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Speaker 5: prospects of holding up, and Hampton didn't hold up in

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Speaker 5: his first year, and that guy's built like a Greek god,

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Speaker 5: so maybe that's a mistake on my part.

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Speaker 2: I think the thing with a Chan is that he's

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Speaker 2: just not reliant on a crazy amount of touches, which

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Speaker 2: might be bad for twenty twenty six in particular. So

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Speaker 2: like this year, I think might be rough for a Chan,

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Speaker 2: even though I'm still even you know, in regular redraft,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have him ranked very high so among running backs,

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Speaker 2: but I mean, is there any one that's going to

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Speaker 2: have to face more eight man boxes and h Chan?

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Speaker 2: There's just not a threat at wide receiver from Miami,

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Speaker 2: so they're going to be playing for a Chan a lot.

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Speaker 2: So I think this year will be difficult, but they

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Speaker 2: should add a lot of wide receiver talent next year

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Speaker 2: when they're spending money and having very high draft picks.

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Speaker 1: I would have a Chan at the bottom of this

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Speaker 1: tier in a dynasty ranking, but he still is blogs

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Speaker 1: in this tier right, So it's a small quibble to kind.

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Speaker 2: Of listen to me arguing for the Aggieah my god.

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Speaker 1: Dynasty Podcast. Before we're done with Tier two, I just

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Speaker 1: want to ask, in terms of overall thoughts, these guys,

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Speaker 1: would you guys be interested in looking at one of

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Speaker 1: would your kind of philosophical approach be in the range

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Speaker 4: Are going Sorry, what was the range? Did you say?

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Speaker 4: Late run? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And the overall rankings and Superflex, these guys are in

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Speaker 1: the range of roughly about nineteenth overall through looks like,

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Speaker 1: So like Taylor's the lowest ranked, he's down and more

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Speaker 5: That's exactly where I have them pretty much same here.

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Speaker 5: I'd be willing to take Jeremiah Love mid second round

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Speaker 5: in a super flex startup draft Hampton pretty close to

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Speaker 5: that range too, I've got Yeah, I've got a chan

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Speaker 1: Some of the non running backs in this range just

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Speaker 2: So I have Bowers and bo ahead of all of them,

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Speaker 2: but the rest I have mixed in.

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Speaker 1: Okay, similar for you if it's maybe a couple ahead

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Speaker 1: draft day. All right, let's get into this here. Three

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Speaker 1: starts to get a little more interesting here. I think

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Speaker 1: Chase Brown, Christian McCaffrey, Traveon Henderson, Saquon Barkley, Quinnshawn Judkins,

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Speaker 1: and Kyron Williams. Again that's Walker, Hall, Brown, McCaffrey, Henderson, Barkley, Judkins,

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Speaker 4: I think the tier looks pretty good.

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Speaker 5: I just I don't know if I buy that he's

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Speaker 1: If I've made you drop somebody out of this tier

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Speaker 5: would be it would be Barkley, I mean, please getting

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Speaker 1: That's Tyron for me, Okay, Kyroen for you, I was

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Speaker 3: I'm not fading either one of them. They're both. They're

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Speaker 2: Like I guess I have Barkley one spot lower, and

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Speaker 2: I was really afraid of McCaffrey last year, but he

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Speaker 3: He played every game he looked.

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Speaker 4: Last year.

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Speaker 2: I still think he's the best runner in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: Okay, So now, Bob mean you said if you were

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Speaker 2: I don't buy that it's going to be a three

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Speaker 3: So we'll see.

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Speaker 1: it would Bucky be a guy you would move up

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Speaker 2: I have Henderson at the top of this and Judkins

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Speaker 1: Okay, and then sticking with you Bogman, Bryce Hall or

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Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker.

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Speaker 3: Haul for me.

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Speaker 2: It's funny because nine and sixteen or Henderson and Judkins

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Speaker 1: Okay, now fits to you, Travan Henderson, quin Jehn.

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Speaker 5: I've got Walker ranked one spot higher. But I have

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: He's the best player by a margin, and every but

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Speaker 2: the bad teams playing so many close games, and you

436
00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,000
Speaker 2: want your best player on the field. So let's just

437
00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,600
Speaker 2: say Shanahan has said this for years, We're gonna We're

438
00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:57,000
Speaker 2: gonna peel back Barkley or McCaffrey, and it never happens.

439
00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:01,240
Speaker 5: If I'm a Breashall investor, I am cool with him

440
00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,680
Speaker 5: not getting twenty touches a game and a lost cause

441
00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,760
Speaker 5: of a season for the Jets. But I better be

442
00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,960
Speaker 5: getting fifteen touches a game out of brese Holler.

443
00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:08,879
Speaker 4: I'm going to be ticked.

444
00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:09,840
Speaker 3: I agreed.

445
00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:11,679
Speaker 1: By the way, when I read through the tier Walker

446
00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,879
Speaker 1: ahead of Hall, that's actually changed since I put just

447
00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,320
Speaker 1: the show sheet together. Wall is once by ahead of

448
00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:20,240
Speaker 1: Walker in a updated consensus rankings.

449
00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,160
Speaker 2: And I like Walker a lot. I just he's never

450
00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:24,800
Speaker 2: had more than two hundred fifty five touches.

451
00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,760
Speaker 1: I actually think you're maybe undervalued Walker a bit, like

452
00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,199
Speaker 1: the Chiefs paid him. With Mahomes coming back from injury,

453
00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:32,840
Speaker 1: they might rely on the running game a bit more.

454
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,119
Speaker 3: Early like stay healthy Worm.

455
00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:38,320
Speaker 2: He never has outside of last year, and that's because

456
00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,480
Speaker 2: they ratcheted back his touches, especially in traffic. They gave

457
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 2: Sharpenay everything near the goal line.

458
00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,919
Speaker 1: Health is definitely a legitimate concern, I think, But like

459
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,280
Speaker 1: who else is going to get explosives on this offense?

460
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,120
Speaker 1: Like I think they are going to find a way

461
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,000
Speaker 1: to use Walker enough to make Dynasty managers happy?

462
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Speaker 2: Is my better score a lot of touchdowns?

463
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Speaker 1: I think?

464
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465
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Speaker 1: up and to claim your prize. Let's go to Tier

474
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 1: four here. This runs from RB seventeen through RB twenty six.

475
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,720
Speaker 1: Right at the top is Bucky Irving. We already talked

476
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,879
Speaker 1: about him, so RB eighteen and on is travesy Eitchen

477
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 1: excuse me, Chavante, Williams, camp Scataboo, Jendarium Price, Josh Jacobs, Dereck,

478
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 1: Henry Bashall, Tuton, DeAndre Swift and RJ Harvey. So again

479
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,400
Speaker 1: we know that Bucky's kind of the favorite of this tier.

480
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,480
Speaker 1: We can kind of skip past that part of the conversation.

481
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,360
Speaker 1: We've talked about him a lot. Anyways, who else stands

482
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,120
Speaker 1: out here? It's kind of funny. You have a real

483
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 1: mix of like there's a true rookie in Jenerium Price,

484
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 1: and then you have the elder statesman of the position

485
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 1: in Derrick Henry, and then a whole bunch of guys

486
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 1: in between to Bagman. When you're looking at this tier four,

487
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 1: does anybody stand out as too high, too low, in

488
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 1: the wrong tier, anything like that.

489
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a much shorter tier here. I have

490
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:08,880
Speaker 2: seventeen through twenty three, So I am missing Montgomery, Harvey, Swift,

491
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 2: and I think Tootin as well. Those I think they

492
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 2: belong in a tier below this.

493
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 1: Montgomery is in the next tier already.

494
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 2: Okay, my bad. I have twenty four to thirty four.

495
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 2: It is my next tier, so I have seventeen to

496
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:28,440
Speaker 2: twenty three. My tier is Jacob's Kyron Eachen, Javonte, Jaderi

497
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,160
Speaker 2: and charbon Ay and cam Skataboo.

498
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 1: Okay, so you would add sharbon Ay in here. He's

499
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 1: somebody that's missing.

500
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a UFA next next year, and he's obviously

501
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 2: coming off a major injury, but I think that's going

502
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 2: to make him not get a lot of wear and

503
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 2: tear this season. And he's a UFA, so I think

504
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 2: he could be a lead back for a new team

505
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 2: next year.

506
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 1: And by the way, you might be looking at the

507
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 1: updated rankings because Montgomery actually is in this tier now.

508
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 1: But again when I put the he wasn't, so that's

509
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 1: what I was going off of. But you are right,

510
00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 1: he has since moved up since yesterday putting the sheet.

511
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 3: So many people updated.

512
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,360
Speaker 1: I know this is the week of updating, and we're

513
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 1: already doing this a week early, so who knows what

514
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,640
Speaker 1: they look like a week from now. Fitz, Let's start

515
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 1: with the guy that Bagwin wants to add here. What

516
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,120
Speaker 1: do you think about sharpon Ay being bumped up in here?

517
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,199
Speaker 5: I could get down with that. I'm more comfortable with

518
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 5: him in the next tier. Well, actually yeah, I mean

519
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,880
Speaker 5: he is one of the three guys I would put

520
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 5: up for promotion to this tier. If you want a

521
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 5: big tier, my opinion, you could either cut this off

522
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 5: after Josh Jacobs and make it a six man tier.

523
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 5: And demote Henry simply because of age, touton Swift and Harvey,

524
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 5: or you could keep everyone except r J. Harvey needs

525
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 5: to get thrown out of the club. I'm sorry you've

526
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 5: failed his audition and now he's in a three man backfield.

527
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 5: Just based on last year, I don't think RJ. Harvey

528
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 5: belongs here, and we talked about this on the last

529
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 5: week's show, So Harvey needs to go for sure. You

530
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 5: could also get rid of Swift, Tuton, Henry, or you

531
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 5: could just get rid of Harvey and promote. In my opinion,

532
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 5: the three guys would be all Charbone would actually be

533
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 5: the last of the three. But I also think kaman

534
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 5: On Guy and Blake Korum could arguably belong in this tier.

535
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 3: I don't hate that.

536
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 1: When you think about Sharbonay, does it feel right if

537
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 1: we were to bump him that he and Price would

538
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 1: then be in the same tier, Because right now Jerium

539
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 1: Price is a tier ahead, and while I do want

540
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 1: to rank Price ahead, I do wonder if a Till

541
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 1: tier ahead of Sharbonay is maybe a mistake.

542
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,360
Speaker 2: I have them in the same tier because I don't

543
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 2: think they're going to be teammates for longer than like

544
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,919
Speaker 2: six to seven weeks here at the end of the

545
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 2: season when Sharps comes back. So I think Charbona is

546
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,400
Speaker 2: gone after this year. I think Seattle. I mean, maybe

547
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 2: Seattle resigns him specifically if Price just doesn't look right,

548
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, if he doesn't look like

549
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 2: what they expected in the first round, maybe they bring

550
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 2: back Sharps just as insurance. But I think that Charbone

551
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 2: is probably gone after this year and leading another team.

552
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: What do you think, Fitz?

553
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 5: Last time I did my dinas ste rankings, I was

554
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 5: looking at the gap I had between Price and Charbone,

555
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 5: and I was thinking about what a big leap of

556
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 5: faith I was taking with Jenerarian prices talent, considering he

557
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 5: went late in the first round, which was also where

558
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 5: Rashad Penny went to the Seahawks not too long ago.

559
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 5: And uh, how did he turn out as a dynasty?

560
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 5: I know, but like and Penny had a more complete

561
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 5: college resume, granted at a lesser school. Stay, yeah, but

562
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 5: at least he played in college significant snaps which.

563
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 3: Love in front of him.

564
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 4: I know.

565
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 2: We just just has such a murky ceiling. He does

566
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 2: pretty clear floor and it's low. So Price is risky

567
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 2: I agree with that.

568
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 5: Whereas we've seen charbon Ay look pretty good, it kind

569
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 5: of took till last.

570
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 2: Year, and Charmon he doesn't have a lot of wear

571
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 2: on the tires. He does have the bad injury he's

572
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 2: coming off of. He doesn't have a lot of wear

573
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 2: because he's been with Walker.

574
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 5: Charbona is one of the hardest guys to our praise

575
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 5: for dynasty value, Like it's just really with the unknown

576
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 5: of where he's going to be next year when he

577
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 5: comes back from the injury this year, and what the

578
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 5: true talent level is since he's always been a platoon back.

579
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 1: I think an interesting stretch in this tier is Travis Echen, Javonte, Williams,

580
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: Camp Scataboo. I could kind of kind of see an

581
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: interesting case for jumbling up those guys in any order.

582
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: They're currently RB eighteen, nineteen, and twenty in that order.

583
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: What do you think the right order is, Bagman.

584
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 2: I've got it, Shannon nineteen, Williams at twenty, and then

585
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,959
Speaker 2: Skataboo at twenty three. I think Skataboo is questionable because

586
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 2: he had size concerns coming in and then had a

587
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 2: bad injury in his first year. Although he did get

588
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 2: a full workload, so I wonder if they're gonna either

589
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 2: ratchet back the workload for him or if they're just gonna,

590
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 2: you know, kind of let him go again. So I

591
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 2: think there are more questions about Skataboo. I think Davante

592
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 2: is pretty easy. It's like a three two to three

593
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,479
Speaker 2: year window and then he's done. I wasn't sure if

594
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 2: he was going to get back after the Achilles tear

595
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 2: he did last year. He's, you know, the primary running

596
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 2: back and one of the best offenses in the NFL,

597
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 2: so that's a really good spot to be in. And

598
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 2: then with at Chen, I think he's going to be

599
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,959
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna fit really well with No Orleans,

600
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 2: so I think his floor is going to be very,

601
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 2: very high as the Saints main back for a while here.

602
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 1: What do you think about the order.

603
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:31,959
Speaker 5: Fits I have it Etienne, Scataboo, Javante, and I do

604
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 5: have them ranked within four spots of each other running

605
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 5: back eighteen through twenty one.

606
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: The last Nate Hare and you did briefly mention it

607
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: fits like honestly, like I'm kind of at the point

608
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: where I'm like, I'm not going to predict the falloff

609
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 1: for Derrick Henry until it happens like he's he's clearly

610
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: just an athletic physical outlier, and those guys like in

611
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 1: other sports or other positions, running back is a different beast,

612
00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 1: but in other sports and other positions, in the end,

613
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,719
Speaker 1: guys who are historic Hall of Fame outliers do sometimes

614
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 1: just age differently in other people. He will age eventually.

615
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: Father time will come for him. I'm not denying that

616
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 1: he's not, you know, immortal, but like the touchdown opportunities

617
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 1: are still going to be there for at least this year.

618
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: He's I think he's going to be really good in Baltimore.

619
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: They don't really have any competition in that backfield for him.

620
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,479
Speaker 1: I still expected to be a good offense. He still

621
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 1: is coming off of a really good season. Even if

622
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: it was like a little bit of a step down.

623
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,959
Speaker 1: A step down for him is still excellent statistically. Like

624
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: I wonder if late RB two is just like like

625
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: if we're downgrading him before the downgrade has actually happened,

626
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: because if he gives you, let's say two and a

627
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: half more years of like really good production, that would

628
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,479
Speaker 1: be insane. But everything he's done in his career has

629
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: been insane, and I actould think, especially with the touchdown

630
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: equity he should have in Baltimore, that that's still possible.

631
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: And in that case, he might actually be ranked too

632
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: low because other guys will also get hurt, miss time

633
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: and or be worse than expected. And I'm not saying

634
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: he should be an RB one anymore, but like I

635
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: almost wonder if it's still a little too low on

636
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: Henry even with the Adrix sounds insane, but he is insane.

637
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 2: Your right worm, And I moved him down one tier

638
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 2: finally this year, and it's only because the offense is changing, right,

639
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 2: Like I do think they're going to be a little

640
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 2: more vertical. So maybe there's you know, a handful of

641
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 2: fewer snaps per game or touches I guess per game

642
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 2: for Derrick Henry, and that's he's a volume guy at

643
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 2: this point and a touchdown guy at this point. So

644
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 2: he's still a freak. He's still amazing. But I did

645
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 2: feel gross doing it.

646
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: I want you to know that at least, so yeah,

647
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: I I mean, Declan Doyle is coming from Ben Johnson,

648
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: who is like one of the best run game designers

649
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: right now. So even if the volume changes, like you

650
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: would still think there'd be particularly with hopefully healthy Lamar,

651
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: that there's gonna be some really fun opportunities. I just

652
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: look at him, and I'm like, I'm the most certain

653
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: of anybody in this tier that he if barring an injury,

654
00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: which could happen to anybody, and maybe is more likely

655
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: at his age, but barring an injury, I'm just so

656
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: more certain than anybody that he's gonna have twelve plus

657
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: touchdowns this year. Like I just that they are going

658
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: to run Harry when they get in close, and he's

659
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: probably gonna be pretty good at it.

660
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 5: It would be great if he just said watch this,

661
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 5: Nerds and was great for like four more seasons into

662
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 5: his late thirties.

663
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 2: Oh we'd better not do that, because then every Dynasty

664
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 2: person is gonna be well.

665
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 3: Remember Derrick Henry played.

666
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 5: Exactly because he's such a monster thirty two years old,

667
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 5: and he's going to turn thirty three just before the

668
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 5: NFL playoffs begin in January. So yeah, I mean, there's

669
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 5: nothing in his performance to indicate that the end is nigh,

670
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 5: Like that's just no imminent sign of let down. But

671
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 5: at his age, you have to think it's not going

672
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 5: to be like a steady decline, like all of a sudden,

673
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 5: it's just gonna be gone, and we're gonna be.

674
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 4: Like, WHOA, Derrick Henry is bad? Now what do we

675
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 4: do with this?

676
00:30:58,680 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 3: You know?

677
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 4: And everyone? But that's fine.

678
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 5: I mean, I think the people who are rostering Derrick

679
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 5: Henry right now are probably committed.

680
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 4: Tom. I'm just going to hold the bag.

681
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 5: Unless you're rebuilding, in which case you should have already

682
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 5: dealt him by now. But the people who are contenders

683
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 5: right now, like I am just going to ride this

684
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 5: out to the bitter.

685
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: I'm just willing to be caught holding the bag. Like

686
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: if I'm the guy who's left with the hot potato,

687
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: so be it. I don't want to assume it's going

688
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: to fall off until.

689
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 4: It does, but everyone should.

690
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 2: I was gonna say the saying in Dynasty, though, is

691
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 2: get out a year early than a year too late.

692
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 3: It's true, and he still a lot his value.

693
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 2: But he might be the why would I say get

694
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 2: out of your too early two years ago on him though?

695
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 3: Is the thing?

696
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: And then he's still kicking.

697
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 5: We never want to acknowledge the possibility that this year,

698
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, he comes out and we're five

699
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 5: weeks in and he's averaging two point eight yards per carry,

700
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 5: and there's talk about Adam Randall taking over the Ravens backfield,

701
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 5: Like that's just so hard to fathom based on what

702
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 5: we've seen with Derrick Henry. But like, based on the

703
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 5: history of NFL running backs, know the red lights and

704
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,239
Speaker 5: sirens they're going off right now and saying, you know,

705
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 5: get out.

706
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 2: But it's a thirty percent chance for any other running back,

707
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 2: it's a four percent change.

708
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just know there are outliers, you know, in

709
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: other positions and in other sports. And if I wouldn't

710
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: bet on anybody to be an outlier at running back,

711
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: it's Derrick Henry.

712
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 5: He's the most unique specimen I think we've ever had.

713
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: He also still, like, I mean, you see some of

714
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: his Oustiason training videos. The Ravens put out like he

715
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: still trains like he's twenty five. Like it's ridiculous the

716
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: stuff he's doing. So he's going to take it sea.

717
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: He's like Tom Brady in the sense that he is

718
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: going to give himself the best statistical chance of playing

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Speaker 1: as long as he can because he is going to

720
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Speaker 1: change his diet sleep in the special sleep chambers, work

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Speaker 1: out like crazy, like he will maximize his career. He's

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00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: not going to play till he's forty four like Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady's career max. Yes, he is career max.

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Speaker 4: He's eating the avocado ice cream exactly.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, hopefully not literally literally because

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00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: that sounds really gross, but you know.

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Speaker 4: Metaphour Brady late night snack, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, Tier five. Some of the later tiers

769
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: start to get a little bit longer. This one runs

770
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: from RB twenty seven to RB thirty nine. David Montgomery,

771
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: Jalen Warren, Kyle Manunguy, Zach Sharboney, Romandre Stevenson, Rico Daudel Blake,

772
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: Koram Shruba, Hobbard, Jonah Coleman, Toni Pollard, Kenneth Gainwell, Jonathan Brooks,

773
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,479
Speaker 1: and JK. Dobbins. We've already talked a little bit about

774
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: some of those guys at the top, including sharbon Ay.

775
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 1: I like Mnonguay a lot in this tier. I don't

776
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 1: know if I can quite get him to the next tier.

777
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: I definitely agree he should be near the top of

778
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: this one. We know Guy is a favorite of Fitz's Bodwin.

779
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: What do you think about Kyle?

780
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:35,439
Speaker 2: I love Manonguy because I just don't I've always I've

781
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 2: always been too low on Swift since being too high

782
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 2: on him coming in right he burned me early, so

783
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 2: I feel like I've been low on, too low on

784
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: Swift since then. But I do think the Bears will

785
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,720
Speaker 2: let him walk, and I think Manoguy will do enough

786
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 2: to be the main back moving forward after this season

787
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 2: for the Bears, but it's not a guarantee, so I

788
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 2: have him here as well.

789
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone, I guess like as much as I really

790
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: like Manungai, it does kind of make sense to me

791
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: that Swift is like I don't think it's I don't know.

792
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: Swift almost feels like he shouldn't be a tier ahead

793
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: of Manunguy, but he should maybe be a half tier

794
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: ahead of Manong Guy right now. Of course, we don't

795
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 1: really account for that fits they're only like four spots

796
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: apart in the positional rankings. It does feel like there's

797
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: a little bit of a gap in the tiers here,

798
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: just in terms of the level of certainty and kind

799
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: of establish what you've done before. There's a floor with

800
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: Swift that we've seen in his career.

801
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 3: I've Swift ahead.

802
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think.

803
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 5: Fits the reason I advocated for having Korum and Manoguy

804
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 5: in like a higher tier. They're young, they're both coming

805
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 5: off really good season as runners, and they are playing

806
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 5: in offenses where their head coaches are two of the

807
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 5: best run game designers in the game. So that combination

808
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 5: the promise of Manangui being in the Bears offense for

809
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 5: the next three years minimum, and the promise of Koram

810
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 5: for like two years and the Rams offense, like that's

811
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,720
Speaker 5: really appealing to me. And obviously, what if something happened

812
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 5: to the veteran above them in the depth chart, all

813
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 5: of a sudden, they're becoming like top five weekly plays

814
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 5: at running back.

815
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 4: So that's why I think those guys belong in a

816
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 4: higher titter.

817
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: Korms RB thirty three, He's like a couple spots below

818
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: Manung Guy. I know you really like him. Fits. Where's

819
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:25,760
Speaker 1: Korm ranked for you, Bogmann?

820
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 3: I've got Korm at twenty eight overall?

821
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: Okay, So also higher then he cr What about Joonah Coleman,

822
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: Just thinking about the young guys who there's some competition

823
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: in their backfield, we haven't seen him do it the

824
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: way we've seen some flashes from an Unguy and Korum already.

825
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: I like Jonah Coleman as a player. I feel like

826
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: RB thirty five, that's a range. I'm pretty interested in

827
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: him in terms of that value in dynasty and just

828
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: taking a swing that maybe he does is establish himself

829
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 1: in this offense and it is a successful offense and

830
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: he gets, you know, some real touchdown equity, and I

831
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: think he can be a useful player in the NFL.

832
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,479
Speaker 1: So RB thirty five for him fits? Does that feel

833
00:37:58,520 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: too high, too low or just right?

834
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 4: It feels okay as far as where he is.

835
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 5: But I don't feel like he should be in a

836
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:09,720
Speaker 5: different tier necessarily than Nick Singleton or Emma Johnson. Okay,

837
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 5: I thought those guys were pretty close to his equals

838
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 5: as prospects, and arguably like Singleton's in maybe the best

839
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 5: situation of all because Pollard and Spears are going into

840
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 5: the last year of their contracts.

841
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 2: What do you think, Bagman, I have him a tier

842
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 2: ahead and I have him at thirty four, so of

843
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 2: Singleton and Johnson is what I mean. I'm sorry, but

844
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 2: I do have him at the end of this tear.

845
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 2: This tier for me goes from twenty four to thirty four.

846
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 2: I have him at the bottom of it.

847
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 3: I have R. J.

848
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 2: Harvey a little bit higher. But like I was saying

849
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 2: in our avoid show, I'm not going to be Rosterington

850
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 2: for running backs. I think I'm probably not drafting either

851
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 2: one of them in a startup because I just want

852
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 2: to avoid this situation overall.

853
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: The guy in this tier that I think like, I

854
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: don't think you could possibly justify making him in a

855
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: higher tier. You could maybe justify ranking him higher a

856
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: few spots, you couldn't go full tier higher. So this

857
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: is the right spot for him generally. But who I

858
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: think has a good chance of being a tier or

859
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: to hire a year from now, besides the guys like

860
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: Manungai and Korum that we've already mentioned, is Jonathan Brooks.

861
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: There's obviously youth on his side. He's coming off of

862
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: the injuries, but he's had a long time to recover

863
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 1: from the most recent one, so you would hope that

864
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: he would be like as close as you can be

865
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: to full strength considering the injury history, there's a real

866
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 1: opportunity in the backfield. He was a round mid round

867
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,720
Speaker 1: two pick in his class, so there was like obviously

868
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: some belief in his talent that like, like we said,

869
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: like the Panthers haven't gone out and like added a

870
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: ton around him. I like Brooks a lot at RB

871
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: thirty eight. Again, you can't rank him up in tier four.

872
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 1: He needs to be in Tier five at the highest,

873
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 1: but I could see him jumping some tiers this season.

874
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 4: Fits Yeah, I'm with you.

875
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 5: I mentioned that I felt Korum and Manangai should be

876
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 5: promoted to the tier above and sharbon a two. I've

877
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 5: got Brooks ranked one spot behind Charbonnet at RB twenty nine,

878
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 5: so I'm nine spots higher than ECR And I just

879
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 5: I'm encouraged by what I've been reading about the second

880
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 5: procedure he had, the second ACL surgery, and how they're

881
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 5: confident that this is a better repair than the first

882
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 5: one they made and that they think they got it

883
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 5: right this time. And I'm also confident that a healthy

884
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 5: Jonathan Brooks is miles better than Chuba.

885
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 2: Hubbard Bogman Firm disagree on both points. I think that

886
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 2: Rico or I'm sorry, Chuba is a pretty good back.

887
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 2: I think he was hurt last year at the very

888
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 2: beginning of the season and that affected him all the

889
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 2: way through last year, and you could see it he

890
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 2: got healthier as the year got on. And you know,

891
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 2: Rico Dawdle I thought was underrated last year as well,

892
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 2: and he has moved up in rankings after signing with

893
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh as well. And I Jonathan Brooks. It's two major

894
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 2: knee surgeries on the same knee and he played one

895
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 2: full season for the Longhorns, and I'm a long look

896
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 2: you know, for those that don't know me, I am

897
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 2: the long Horns guy. So I am just surprised at

898
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 2: the overall market shift. And I think it's more about

899
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 2: not liking Cuba than it is about really loving Jonathan Brooks.

900
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 2: The opportunity is there for Brooks because Cuba had an

901
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 2: injury last year. He looked very bad with his injury,

902
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 2: So maybe Cuba's an injury prone player at this point

903
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 2: in his career as well. I just don't think that

904
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 2: that you know, he has opportunity, is he going to

905
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 2: run away with it. I've been wrong on guys coming

906
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 2: off of major injuries. Before, I was wrong on Javante

907
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 2: because I didn't want anything to do with him, So

908
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 2: I am more paranoid about injuries in your standard fantasy analyst.

909
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 2: I understand that, but we don't have a track record

910
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: with him in the NFL at all whatsoever. And he's

911
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 2: been injured for two straight years. So I just I

912
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 2: can't get on board with with ranking him above an Rbfore,

913
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 2: I just can't do.

914
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: It to kind of highlight the difference between how you

915
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: two are viewing him. Let's think not rankings, but in

916
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: terms of trades, draft capital wise, what would you give

917
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: up fits for Brooks in a trade? And I'm gonna

918
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: ask you the same question after.

919
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 5: Bogs twenty twenty seven third and twenty twenty eight third.

920
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: And it's giving up both. Yeah, okay, so third's in

921
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: the next two classes, bagman.

922
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 3: I wouldn't.

923
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 2: I wouldn't give you more than a fourth next year

924
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 2: for him.

925
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 4: Wow.

926
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: That's a pretty wide gap.

927
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 5: Then, Wow, when Brooks pops this year, I would love

928
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 5: to be remember Longhorns.

929
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 2: Please please do I just don't. I don't believe it's

930
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 2: gonna happen.

931
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,280
Speaker 4: And by the way, like doubt all, I would almost

932
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 4: question being in.

933
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: This tier, so I was actually just just gonna ask.

934
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 1: So the names we haven't hit on in this tier

935
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: yet are all the veterans Jalen Warren, Ramandre Stevenson, Rico

936
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 1: Dawdl Chuwba Hubbard, Tony Pollard, Kenneth Gainwell, JK. Dobbins. Those

937
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: are all the names in this year that we haven't

938
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: really dove depod. So yeah, fits, why don't you give

939
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: me your favorite and least favorite. You don't have to

940
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: rank him all, but favorite and least favorite of those

941
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: veteran names.

942
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 5: Could almost pick the two Steelers here, because I think

943
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 5: you have to look at this Pittsburgh backfield through what

944
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers is at this late stage of his career.

945
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 5: He's a checkdown machine. He's a guy who does not

946
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,720
Speaker 5: want to get hit. That totally favors Jalen Warren. PFF

947
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 5: gave Dowdell a pass blocking grade of like twenty seven

948
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 5: or something last year, which was really poor, and Warren

949
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 5: was in the seventies with his pass blocking grade very

950
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 5: well above average. And Warren has always been the much

951
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,399
Speaker 5: better pass catcher than Rico Dowdell in the NFL, So

952
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 5: like this sets up totally well for Warren to be

953
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 5: a buddy of Aaron Rodgers and just the perfect escape

954
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 5: hatch guy, the guy who can pick up the blitzer.

955
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 4: Dowbell not so much.

956
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 5: But yet everyone is excited about Dowdell because the last

957
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 5: time he and Mike McCarthy were together, Dowdell had the

958
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 5: one thousand yard season in Dallas, and I.

959
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 2: Think Dodwell was under utili by McCarthy even that season.

960
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 4: So, oh, you got a late start? Was he he did?

961
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 5: They were clinging to Zeke early on that year until

962
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 5: they've realized Zeke couldn't z Yeah, yeah, but.

963
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 2: I agree with you. I have worn at the top

964
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 2: of this year. I'm at twenty four, and I think

965
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 2: the thing that we forget about Warren is every lot

966
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 2: like Bucky, every time we doubt Warren, he pushes Nase

967
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 2: Harris off the roster. Right last year, we think, oh, hey,

968
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 2: Caleb Johnson's coming in. He's going to take over this

969
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 2: backfield and be the thumper. Nope, he goes to third

970
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 2: string and Kenneth Gainwell has a huge year. And by

971
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 2: the way, I'm not I don't have Kenneth Gainwell in

972
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 2: this tier either. You know, I just think that one

973
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 2: one season of production is not going to allow me

974
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 2: to put him up in this tier quite yet. Still,

975
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 2: I still think Kenneth Gainwell is good. And last year

976
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 2: when everyone was saying, oh, Caleb Johnson's going to push

977
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 2: him right out of the way, it's that Kenneth Gainwell's

978
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,720
Speaker 2: not a nothing. He was just behind Saquon in Philly.

979
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 2: So I think Gainwell better than he was thought of

980
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 2: going into last year, and now I think he's being overvalued.

981
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: All right, Tier six This is forty through fifty. The

982
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: tier actually does go a bit longer, but we just

983
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 1: wanted to hit the top fifty in this episode. Jacorey

984
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: krossky Merritt Tyler, Al's Yeer Tyrone, Tracy Woody, Marks, Rashad White,

985
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: Nicholas Singleton, Emmett Johnson, Jordan Mason, Dylan Sampson, Chris Rodriguez,

986
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones. That gets us from RB forty through RB fifty.

987
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: Anybody stand out here? I mean, I know fits you

988
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: already mentioned Singleton and Johnson. The rookie is kind of

989
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: along with Coleman. Do you think they should be a

990
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: tier up or that Coleman should be a tier down.

991
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 5: I'd say a tier up on both the young guys,

992
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 5: but then I'm I'm an ageist and always give the

993
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 5: young guys maybe more of the benefit of the doubt

994
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:42,760
Speaker 5: than I should.

995
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of a bummer Bogman Tyler OL's year. I

996
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: was kind of excited to see him get a chance,

997
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: and then you know, Jeremiah Love goes there. It's forty one,

998
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 1: about the right spot for him in Tier six. Given

999
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 1: that Jeremiah Love is now there.

1000
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 2: I have him at thirty eight. I'm kind of holding

1001
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,959
Speaker 2: not hope that maybe they trade him. You know, maybe

1002
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 2: he has a good part of this season and they

1003
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 2: know that Love is going to be the guy getting

1004
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 2: all the touches and they can keep Benson or draft

1005
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 2: somebody else. I would like to see him in a

1006
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 2: different situation. But yeah, it's very disappointing that they drafted

1007
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 2: Love after signing him. I was ready to see him

1008
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 2: break out. Not gonna happen.

1009
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 3: Now.

1010
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: Two of the names that stand out to me in

1011
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: this tier towards the back end of this year, Dylan

1012
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: Sampson and Chris Ardriguez. Different players and for different reasons.

1013
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: Arriguez is just a player that I'm pretty interested in

1014
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty six. So if I'm going to try

1015
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: to kind of a win now mode and say like, hey,

1016
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: this guy's you know, he's RB forty nine in our rankings,

1017
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: I can probably get him for cheap, hopefully from somebody

1018
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 1: who maybe isn't trying to compete this year. I wonder

1019
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: if that's like a reasonable trade to try, and you know,

1020
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: a target for trade talks considered, the cost won't be

1021
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: too much. And I kind of like him this year.

1022
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: And then Dylan Sampson, like Judkins, for as good as

1023
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: he's looked this offseason, he is coming off of a

1024
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: really major injury. It is a new coaching staff, a

1025
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: new play caller. We don't know how they're going to

1026
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: get used. I really liked Sampson the player when he

1027
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,439
Speaker 1: came in last year. So what do you think about

1028
00:46:58,480 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: these two fits?

1029
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:01,240
Speaker 4: Let me ask you this worm.

1030
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 5: So there I think possibly three rookies missing from this

1031
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 5: tier who a lot of people might say, where are

1032
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 5: these guys? Mike Washington, k Tron Allen's, DeMont Claiborne. Do

1033
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 5: you like Dylan Samson better than all three of those guys?

1034
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 1: I like Dylan Samson better than Mike Washington. I think

1035
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 1: I do like him better than Claiborne. Alan's an interesting one.

1036
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: I actually think I would have him ahead of all three.

1037
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: It would be very close. And by the way, just

1038
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: to say it for the people, Alan and Washington are

1039
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: actually in this tier if we send it out to

1040
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,399
Speaker 1: the end of the tier, and would beyond the top

1041
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 1: fifty DeMont. Claiborn is not. He is down in tier seven.

1042
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 1: He's ranked in the mid sixties. But Alan and Washington

1043
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: are later in this tier. We just didn't get to them.

1044
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: It's out of the top fifty. I do think I

1045
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: would have Sampson ahead of all of them, but not

1046
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: by a wide margin.

1047
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 5: I have Sampson one spot ahead of Claiborne, two spots

1048
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 5: ahead of Washington, and then I have Kate tron Allen

1049
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 5: like maybe about five spots below Washington and Claiborne.

1050
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 2: I have Samson behind all three of those guys, and

1051
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 2: I actually think Samson, as far as talent goes, is

1052
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 2: probably better than all three of those guys. But I

1053
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 2: just really like Judkins in that role. I think he's

1054
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 2: going to be a workhorse for the most part, and

1055
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 2: I think that they have better opportunities in their landing spots.

1056
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,280
Speaker 2: I think k Tron Allen can score touchdowns immediately for Washington.

1057
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 2: You know Pollard is going to be pushed. I think

1058
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 2: Singleton could push Spears right out of that number two role,

1059
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 2: and if Pollard is slowing down at all, I think

1060
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 2: they give Singleton a look. And I think Claiborne. I

1061
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 2: love the fit of Claiborne in Minnesota, and I like

1062
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,959
Speaker 2: it better than I like the fit of Samson because

1063
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 2: they still have Rocket Sanders too, So like if anything

1064
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 2: happens to Judkins, I think Sanders is getting those first

1065
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 2: and second downs, and I think Sampson is kind of

1066
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 2: restricted to a passing role back in Cleveland, which isn't

1067
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 2: a bad thing to have, but is very it limits

1068
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:58,280
Speaker 2: his ceiling.

1069
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: I just feel like the NFL told us what they

1070
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: thought of these this rookie class with the way they

1071
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: were drafted this year, and so I'm, you know, very

1072
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: willing to you know, break the tie with the guy

1073
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 1: last year. And also Dylan seem said is younger than

1074
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,919
Speaker 1: all of those rookies. He came to league really young,

1075
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: and so he's if he was not in Cleveland, like

1076
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: put him into two. If dude, he's in Jacksonville, I

1077
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 1: would have him where everybody has Tutin. Yeah, I would

1078
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: have preferred him in a different location than than Cleveland.

1079
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: But I still like the player enough, and I think

1080
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: there's enough of an opportunity if Judkins isn't you know,

1081
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 1: is a little rusty coming off the injury. You know,

1082
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: if he gets a passing down work again. It is

1083
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,399
Speaker 1: a new offense this year with Todd Munkin that I'm

1084
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: kind of interested in.

1085
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 2: Let me ask, uh, let me ask one question to

1086
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 2: FITZI here, where do you have Bill crosskimeric? Because everybody

1087
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,479
Speaker 2: knows I hate him, and I don't, by the way,

1088
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 2: but everybody knows I'm going to be low man on Bill.

1089
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 3: So where do you have.

1090
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 5: Bill thirty nine in Dynasty? In between Gainwell and Dobbins.

1091
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,240
Speaker 3: But in this tier?

1092
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 4: Oh oh oh?

1093
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 2: That is that the tier above? I think that's this tier, right, yeah? No,

1094
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 2: that's this here.

1095
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's a it.

1096
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 2: Goes from like, you know, down into the fifties.

1097
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 5: I do have the rookies ranked ahead of him, Singleton

1098
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 5: and Emma Johnson, but that's it.

1099
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,879
Speaker 4: I do have him above everyone else in this tier.

1100
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I might need to move him up, but even

1101
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 2: moving him up, I think the highest I could get

1102
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 2: him too is like forty four, So I'm I'm gonna

1103
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 2: be low.

1104
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: Are there any non rookies who are not listed in

1105
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 1: this tier that you think should be like that? We

1106
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 1: haven't gotten to yet, you know, just kind of scrolling

1107
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: down through the list. You know, Braylan Allen is not

1108
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: inside the top fifty. You know Alm Kamara Obviously we

1109
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 1: don't really like that much, but you know, he's a

1110
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: name who's done it before. Trying to try to see

1111
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: who stands out that wouldn't be Spears.

1112
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 4: Spears.

1113
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 5: Caleb Johnson, if anyone's still holding the candle.

1114
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: On a show last week, fits and he seems pretty disgusted.

1115
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: So I didn't want to do that to you again.

1116
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just but I just don't think like in

1117
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 5: the Aaron Rodgers Steelers he's gonna fit at all. I mean,

1118
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 5: he has to be in a different situation and maybe

1119
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 5: he does get released in August or something and gets

1120
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 5: a chance to latch on somewhere else. So yeah, right

1121
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 5: now it's uphill for Caleb Johnson. But the prospect profile

1122
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 5: everyone seemed to like, and some people seem.

1123
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 2: To really like I don't think he gets cut. I

1124
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 2: think he's just buried, which sucks. Right, So I have

1125
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:39,240
Speaker 2: Caleb in the sixties, but Gainwell and White, I think

1126
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 2: both have very high floors in PPR leagues, which is

1127
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 2: most dynasty leagues. So I think they belong in this

1128
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 2: tier and to be discussed among these guys. I think

1129
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 2: the rest of a lot of what we're looking for

1130
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 2: a lot here is like either long term ceiling like

1131
00:51:55,800 --> 00:52:00,040
Speaker 2: Emma Johnson or Allen or you know Claiborne guys like that,

1132
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 2: or we're looking for a very high floor, which those

1133
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 2: guys provide, so just for bi weeks and injuries and

1134
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 2: stuff like that. So I think they just at least

1135
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 2: need to be discussed in this group.

1136
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 5: Like I could get on board with and this is

1137
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 5: coming from the Wisconsin guy. I mean, Braylan Allen is

1138
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 5: still so young. He was the youngest guy at any

1139
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:18,720
Speaker 5: position in his draft class.

1140
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 4: I could get on board with him.

1141
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 5: But Braylan Allen is not a pass catcher and where

1142
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 5: the carry's coming from.

1143
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 4: That that's the issue.

1144
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 5: Like he has to have a significant early down role

1145
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 5: in whatever team he's playing on in he's just not

1146
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 5: gonna have that with Bruce Hall around.

1147
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: By the way, Braylan Allen and Tyja Spears both in

1148
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 1: this tier just outside the top fifty for a reference. Yeah, look,

1149
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: I'm looking at like the next tier, like Keaton Mitchell,

1150
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: like that speed paired with Mike McDaniel intrigues me, but

1151
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like you should like move him up with

1152
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 1: that might.

1153
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:50,760
Speaker 3: Not as good back as Videll.

1154
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 2: I don't buy that at all, and I like Vydell's

1155
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 2: a better back than Mitchell.

1156
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 5: Is there any chance at any point in Keith Mitchell's

1157
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 5: career he everges ten ten touches a game.

1158
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:02,760
Speaker 4: It's just hard to see.

1159
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: I don't know that he's going to be like, you know,

1160
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: a star or anything, but like, I do think that

1161
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel wanted him and they went out and got him,

1162
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: and he does seem like he fits really beautifully with McDaniel,

1163
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 1: and so being outside the top sixty feels like, God,

1164
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: maybe you could bump him up a little. I'm not

1165
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: saying he belongs like two tiers up or anything like that,

1166
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: but I do think it's a really nice, like a

1167
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: very very poor man's version of a chan just in

1168
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 1: terms of the fit of speed with play caller I

1169
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 1: think is intriguing, not even about like him versus Videl,

1170
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: just more like fit with what that offense wants to do.

1171
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: And Sean Tucker Ray Davis just as lottery tickets, you know, somebody.

1172
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 3: Gets Giddens put in there, Randall put in there.

1173
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 1: Just get thrown out other names. But yeah, it's not

1174
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 1: a ton honestly. So So to kind of wrap up

1175
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: our talking point here in the show, do you guys

1176
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 1: have any takeaways from this exercise in terms of like, oh,

1177
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: this has made me want to invest more heavily in

1178
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: running backs and Dynasty because I don't like to drop off,

1179
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 1: or I'm more comfortable with the depth now that we've

1180
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: done this exercise and and we're willing to wait here

1181
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 1: in my build? What do you kind of think of

1182
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 1: the overall stated position here as a final point?

1183
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 2: Bogman, I think I'm going to trade all my Jonathan

1184
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:11,760
Speaker 2: Brooks shares, do you guys?

1185
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 3: I think that's number one?

1186
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 2: But I think just overall, I think the I think

1187
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 2: we have it right for.

1188
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:20,439
Speaker 3: The most part.

1189
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 2: I have a couple, you know, firm disagreements with the

1190
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 2: overall ECR and maybe some tiering things. But I think

1191
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 2: this is this is a pretty good mix of what

1192
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 2: we have here, so I don't have too many huge

1193
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 2: beefs with ECR right now, what.

1194
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: Do you think fits just kind of overall thought of

1195
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: them position.

1196
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 5: I think it does get really subjective once you get

1197
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 5: beyond the top twenty or so. They're small quibbles inside

1198
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 5: the top twenty, but man, after that, that's when one

1199
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,760
Speaker 5: person might have a guy to spot two tiers higher

1200
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 5: than someone else has them. So if you're a contender,

1201
00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 5: you should probably have two of those top twenty.

1202
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: I feel like most people would have to drop off

1203
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 1: in that Somewhere in the twenty to twenty three range

1204
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,280
Speaker 1: is like maybe a little bit different for each person

1205
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: beyond our to the same difference.

1206
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you.

1207
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 1: Get to the mid twenties and beyond that's where there's

1208
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:15,720
Speaker 1: like kind of a lot of really back and forth

1209
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: I think for most people. All Right, cool, that was fun.

1210
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: I love doing episodes like this, Go and wrap things

1211
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: up there. I got through a ton of names for

1212
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 1: everybody for Fits and Bogman, I'm Ryan warmly, thanks for

1213
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 1: tuning in, Thanks again for bearing with us taping this

1214
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 1: a little early again, Hopefully no breaking news happened that

1215
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,919
Speaker 1: totally throws all of these out of whack. We'll see

1216
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,520
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