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Speaker 3: I know, Carla.

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Speaker 2: Before we started the show, I just showed you naked

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Speaker 2: pictures of Christine over here. Have you ever had an

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Speaker 4: I've never had it so casual, like like you were

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Speaker 4: just I didn't even know what I was looking at.

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Speaker 4: You were like, come over here real quick, right and

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Speaker 4: then bam, I got Christine in the back, and then

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Speaker 4: the pictures right here.

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Speaker 3: It is just organic to save face real quick.

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Speaker 5: It is my pictures from when I was a playboy playmate,

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Speaker 5: not last night.

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Speaker 6: Does it matter?

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Speaker 2: I still look the same, say to me, you do.

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Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but there's not that much

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Speaker 6: I've been working out. I can say it's not too

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Speaker 3: I mean, you're not that far off, dude, honestly for

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Speaker 2: December two thousand and five, and because what we did

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Speaker 2: But that's the funny part is when I first met

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Speaker 2: Christine that I loved about her because former and all

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Speaker 2: Right, I've met quite a few, but not about it

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Speaker 2: that's why I wanted to see too, Like I wanted

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Speaker 6: Well. Thank you so funny story. You brought up Bad Teacher.

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Speaker 5: So to this day I still get residuals for Bad

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Speaker 2: Well that was another podcast, but yeah, bad Teacher. Her

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Speaker 5: By Yes, I was felt up by Cameron Diaz theat

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Speaker 5: I guess where I go right to the dispensary, and

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Speaker 6: Like I am celebrating being felt up by Cameron Diaz.

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Speaker 5: I literally do everything months when I get my resistance

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Speaker 2: Show, AA, thank you so much for being her agent

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Speaker 4: I just think if you had too many dispensaries in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, let me let me share the story now, Christine.

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Speaker 2: Is what you just said, it's going to make you

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Speaker 2: As reported from kr QE guys, the New Mexico became

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Speaker 2: number of stores is causing conflict. So what you kind

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Speaker 3: Open next door, we're pretty much done.

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Speaker 2: So you're looking at people that you know, spent their

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Speaker 6: Well, there's something new. I didn't know until recently.

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Speaker 5: And I've been hitting you know, dispensaries, you know, with

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Speaker 5: And then once they go to business like yeah, if

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Speaker 6: Jack up all the prices. So that's actually going.

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Speaker 6: I've been told which Sten Spencer is like, are the

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Speaker 2: Well, and it becomes where big bank takes little bank

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Speaker 3: They're gonna sell for thirty, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: They're selling ace now for thirty.

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Speaker 2: Where are you gonna go buy your eighth thatt They're both legal,

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Speaker 2: they're both fire, you know what I mean. So as

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Speaker 2: you say what you just said, Christine, it's like Devil's Advocate,

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Speaker 2: Do we really want that? Because now all these people

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I feel like, you know some obviously I

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Speaker 2: Or geographic areas. I fully agree, but then you got

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Speaker 3: So this is the city of Albuquerque.

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Speaker 2: So the city of Albuquerque has a population of I

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Speaker 2: It's just wherever you're gonna do, let's just use or

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Speaker 2: You can only go to one city out here, which

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Speaker 3: Now Santa Anna doesn't.

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Speaker 2: Have them in every little corner, but they're all in

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Speaker 2: So the city of Albuquerque has that ordinance, and now

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Speaker 3: When the article that I read it was within six

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Speaker 2: Wow, that is crazy. There has to be more than

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Speaker 2: six hundred. But now they're saying, let's get it within

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Speaker 2: six hundred. Can you imagine walking six hundred feet to

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Speaker 2: and I were married and this is our life savings,

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Speaker 2: We're like, babe, we're gonna do this.

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Speaker 3: You love cannabis. I love cannabis. Let's do this.

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Speaker 2: But then we have to compete, and it's got to

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Speaker 2: be a business. And then Connor comes in with this

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Speaker 2: fortune five hundred company six hundred feet away from us.

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Speaker 3: We're sitting there going, oh babe, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: If he's one of the bigger guys, I'm gonna be

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Speaker 6: slashing tires and being people. It's like we're back to

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Speaker 3: You're back to black market. You're back to doing other things.

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Speaker 3: I'm back to telling Christie he's got to go make

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Speaker 6: For the million time, Chris Senior two Damn brand had

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Speaker 3: Christ We need something else to go with the eighth

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because you can see when they start struggling. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Of times exactly. Well, it's Cannabis Talk one on. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna come back, Connor, I know you got a story

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Speaker 1: one on one.

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Speaker 3: Y'all know what time it is, folks, dime time.

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Speaker 6: I know, Christine, Hey, Gandhay, what time is it?

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Speaker 3: Dimetime?

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Speaker 6: WHOA look at you?

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Speaker 3: You snort the dime? You snort everything though? I like that?

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Speaker 3: I know, Connor, you got a little story for us.

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Speaker 7: Yes, we're gonna go to Nevada for this one.

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Speaker 3: Nevada.

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Speaker 4: So, Nevada Governor Joe Lombardo has signed Senate Bill two

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Speaker 6: And a convicted felon of in cannabis or convicted fell in.

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Speaker 2: Really yeah, well, because I know in California, convicted felons

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Speaker 4: Wow, So you know, it's that's big time because obviously

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Speaker 2: Only that when I think of Nevada, I think of Vegas. Right,

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Speaker 2: let's just go straight there. And when Nevada passes something

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Speaker 2: it's good to know that you're not going to get

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Speaker 3: Announce No, when it was you know.

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Speaker 2: I mean announce depending on how many people you're around.

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Speaker 3: There totally are your girls.

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Speaker 7: Of grams of wax and then you know, slowly raising it.

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Speaker 7: But you know, there's just no point.

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Speaker 2: It's just like it's just a target right there. It's

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Speaker 3: You can, but it's just.

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Speaker 4: Lastly the Nevadic Cannabis Compliance Board has been given the

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Speaker 2: this in that place, you know, Oakland for mushrooms and

446
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Speaker 2: this and that with psilocybin. I mean, once they do

447
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Speaker 2: it and they see, oh shit, all hell didn't just

448
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Speaker 2: break loose? I have another story that I just read

449
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Speaker 2: the other day of how noticing the causes and effects

450
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Speaker 2: from cannabis, how it's it's not a bad thing. It's

451
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Speaker 2: not even the first thing that's tried. The gateway is

452
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Speaker 2: more alcohol and cigarettes. Yeah, and still tobacco. That's your

453
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Speaker 2: gateway for sure. So when you look at Nevada doing this,

454
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Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be a great uh scenario and

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Speaker 2: story to see all it plays out.

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Speaker 7: No, I think it's math smart to do.

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Speaker 4: Like you know, why why not plan out the hypothetical

458
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Speaker 4: future with this like it? You know, we the cannabis

459
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Speaker 4: industry already is, you know.

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Speaker 2: I would like to see if like the brothels would

461
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Speaker 2: have it and just allow it and then sell it

462
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Speaker 2: because it's his face, it's legal out there in Nevada too, Right,

463
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Speaker 2: you've been to the Brossel.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about you guys, but I've been to

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Speaker 3: the Bunny Ranch.

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Speaker 2: Dennis hoff rest in piece his spot, took a bunch

467
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Speaker 2: of listeners out there before and they poured it in

468
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Speaker 2: the room, but it wasn't just out there in the open.

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Speaker 2: How great would that be if you go there? I

470
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Speaker 2: don't know if you guys ever been if you ever

471
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Speaker 2: been to one of these places.

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Speaker 5: Now they were at the mansion all the time though,

473
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Speaker 5: he and his girls. Okay, I haven't been there.

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Speaker 7: I've never been.

475
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Speaker 3: So you go there and you walk in and it's

476
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Speaker 3: like it's like a bar.

477
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Speaker 2: It's like an open bar at the entrance right is

478
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Speaker 2: full on bar and you're drinking and this and that.

479
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Speaker 2: My point is, how great would that be if you're

480
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Speaker 2: just able to smoke weed in there as well?

481
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Speaker 3: And these women?

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Speaker 6: Do you have cannabis brothels yet?

483
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Speaker 3: No? I have not heard of them.

484
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Speaker 6: Want to go into business?

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Speaker 3: You ready to go back to work? Is that what

486
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Speaker 3: you're saying.

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Speaker 6: I'm ready to start.

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Speaker 3: Hey wait a minute, wait aute, go back.

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Speaker 6: I don't know, get a fifteen year relationship. I gotta

490
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Speaker 6: got a lot of extra fevers.

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Speaker 3: Christine, you got me excited right now. Hold on, let's

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Speaker 3: take a break and figure this out. It's Cannabis Talk

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Speaker 2: And Erica, you're over there working hard.

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Speaker 3: As their engineers look, studying so much. Connor, thank you

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Speaker 3: for being.

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Speaker 6: Up here studying also, Connor, oh very more.

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Speaker 2: Christine hanging out with us. Nothing like showing off your

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Speaker 2: pictures earlier. I have another story for you guys. I

515
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Speaker 2: was a good one about Nevada though. That gets me

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Speaker 2: excited to see what's going to happen for sure, And

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Speaker 2: I alluded to this when we were talking about that.

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Speaker 2: But according to a new study. The study is titled

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Speaker 2: first Use of Cannabis Compared to the first use of

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Speaker 2: alcohol and tobacco Associations with single and polys Substance use

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Speaker 2: behavior was published in the journal Drug and Alcohol Dependence Now.

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Speaker 2: Study authors notes that nearly one hundred and forty five

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Speaker 2: million Americans lived in a state with some form of

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Speaker 2: legalized recreational or medical cannabis use in twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 2: according to forty five percent the US population Now. They

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Speaker 2: also note that legal cannabis markets may be particularly relevant

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Speaker 2: to young adults eighteen to twenty four.

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Speaker 3: That's a couple of you that are right here on

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Speaker 3: the show sets. Yes, that's me, that's you and Erica.

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Speaker 2: Since then, not us, Christine, since they.

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Speaker 9: Have the highest proportion of the past year and past

532
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Speaker 9: thirty day cannabis use at twenty three point two percent

533
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Speaker 9: compared to the youth that's six point three percent.

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Speaker 2: Of adults over the age of twenty five is ten

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Speaker 2: point four percent.

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Speaker 3: Now, it would appear that alcohol and tobacco are the

537
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Speaker 3: real gateway drugs, is what they're saying.

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Speaker 2: Researchers with the University of Oklahoma tract substance use patterns

539
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Speaker 2: and a cohort of more than eight thousand young adults

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Speaker 2: from ages eighteen to twenty four years old over a

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Speaker 2: six year track on what kind of substances young people

542
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Speaker 2: typically turn two first. Ultimately the research shows young people

543
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Speaker 2: typically try alcohol our tobacco before they experience with cannabis.

544
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Speaker 2: Now here's something very interesting that I found before I

545
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Speaker 2: found that was interesting. No studies to our knowledge have

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Speaker 2: examined whether using cannabis before alcohol tobacco, compared to using

547
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Speaker 2: cannabis at the same age of alcohol or tobacco confers

548
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Speaker 2: greater risk are reporting current polysubstance use and other drug use.

549
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Speaker 2: According to the author's information and the research that they've done.

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Speaker 2: The question that I'm asking all of you and Erica,

551
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Speaker 2: I want you to turn your mic on and give

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Speaker 2: an answer to this what did you try first?

553
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Speaker 3: The mic is already answered. Just lean into it. Hello, Yes,

554
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Speaker 3: you're on the show right there, So don't worry as

555
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Speaker 3: you talk.

556
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Speaker 2: Believe you me, You're on okay, And as a matter

557
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Speaker 2: of fact, Erica, you can answer first, what is the

558
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Speaker 2: first thing you tried? Was it cannabis, was it tobacco?

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Speaker 2: Or was it alcohol? The very first thing you tried?

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Speaker 6: Alcohol?

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Speaker 3: What about you, Christine?

562
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Speaker 6: Alcohol?

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Speaker 3: What about you?

564
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Speaker 7: Concoohole?

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Speaker 3: What age? Now? What age was it? Erica?

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Speaker 6: Fourteen?

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Speaker 3: Christine?

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Speaker 6: I think sixteen, Connor fifteen or sixteen?

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Speaker 2: Alcohol? Was your gateway too? And then and then me

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Speaker 2: ask you this, what was next? Was it tobacco or cannabis?

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Speaker 6: Cannabis Christine cannabis Connor.

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Speaker 4: So I had tried cannabis first, but like I had

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Speaker 4: used more tobacco because I was living in the United Kingdom.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it was like tobacco is a huge social tool

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Speaker 7: over there.

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Speaker 3: So it was both, right, cannabis and tobacco at the

577
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Speaker 3: same time.

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Speaker 4: Well, not like cannabis occasionally because like a it was

579
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Speaker 4: hard to get over in the United Kingdom and be

580
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Speaker 4: like I was on a student visa, so I wasn't

581
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Speaker 4: trying to, you know, do anything stupid.

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Speaker 2: And you're playing professional soccer, so you're an idiot out

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Speaker 2: there playing in and yeah.

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Speaker 4: So you know, we had we had our tobacco, and

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Speaker 4: we had ourlcohol and everything, and like, uh, I would

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Speaker 4: say that tobacco and all that.

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Speaker 2: So thanks for asking, because nobody asked me. Anybody want

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Speaker 2: to I say.

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Speaker 6: How about you? Groun Hey? Thank you?

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Speaker 3: Oh so you're asking me alcohol? Oh, thank you so

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Speaker 3: much for including me in this segment.

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Speaker 6: Thank you for joining this show.

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Speaker 2: Thank you Erica for asking me for anything, please anything?

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Speaker 2: Can we do that car thing that you told me

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Speaker 2: about car. What's it called?

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Speaker 4: Car?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 6: Alcohol?

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Speaker 2: Crazily enough, you guys, I was six years old and

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Speaker 2: the first thing for me was cannabis at six?

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Speaker 3: At six years old.

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Speaker 6: Did you smoke it?

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Speaker 3: Did you smoke it to a.

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Speaker 2: Power grenade thing? It was a power hitter. I'll never

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Speaker 2: forget listening to the double Dutch bus. It was my

606
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Speaker 2: moment of like my brother. My parents were out of town.

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Speaker 2: My older brother was ten years older, and you know,

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Speaker 2: it was a memory that at six, I remember.

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Speaker 6: Who gave it to you? A six blue?

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Speaker 3: My older brother blue?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my old my dad's moving. Give him a call

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Speaker 2: right there if you're in the Bay Area. We've been

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Speaker 2: sober in a twenty seven years too now. But it's

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Speaker 2: funny though, because as I look at these and I think,

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Speaker 2: oh the gateway, as you three are great evidence that

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Speaker 2: you know it wasn't I go to the other spectrum

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Speaker 2: of saying my first one was cannabis, then was alcohol,

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Speaker 2: then was tobacco.

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Speaker 5: I just realized I have one story of how cannabis

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Speaker 5: is actually dangerous.

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Speaker 6: Oh so guess who?

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Speaker 5: So the first person that gave me cannabis, right, I

623
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Speaker 5: ended up marrying them. I wasn't high on cannabis, I

624
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Speaker 5: wouldn't have gotten married.

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Speaker 3: So did you really get that high that you got married?

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Speaker 6: I literally got letally married. No, at sixteen.

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Speaker 5: So the first person I was dating was yeah, like

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Speaker 5: I always had weed and stuff, and I was like, oh,

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Speaker 5: weed is awesome.

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Speaker 6: I was like, oh, fuck it. I guess a little

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Speaker 6: marry then because he had weed. And then he started

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Speaker 6: growing lead and then anything on the news and two states.

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Speaker 3: But oh he got busted for it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah it was literally on the news and Tues States.

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Speaker 3: But oh my goodness.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, literally because he had married eighteen.

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Speaker 3: At least you were a legal agent. Yeah you started

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Speaker 3: dating him at sixteen?

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Speaker 6: Yeah sixteen, Yeah, lead twenty four or so not big

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Speaker 6: at all.

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Speaker 3: But well, yeah, you're always just well developed a young

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Speaker 3: like oh I got.

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Speaker 6: Your sh the Psychopathit very age.

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Speaker 2: I feel so bad for women like that that are

645
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Speaker 2: just well in doubt like that are young, because it's

646
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Speaker 2: just it's just.

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Speaker 3: Sad like and it's just so natural for us pigs

648
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Speaker 3: to fuck it.

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Speaker 2: Oh look, ame back. You just see a beautiful woman

650
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Speaker 2: walk by. Oh my god, she's sixteen, you.

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Speaker 6: Know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Like the same thing with Eric, except she's thirty five now,

653
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Speaker 2: and it's like, you know, she looks like she's sixteen.

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Speaker 6: Though, you know, it's interesting. I was talking to a

655
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Speaker 6: girl about this, about that old.

656
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Speaker 5: Joe, about how why pretty girls usually get like the

657
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Speaker 5: psychos of the narcisses. But if you think about it,

658
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Speaker 5: most nice whatever guys are going to see a stunning

659
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Speaker 5: woman and they're not going to have the balls to

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Speaker 5: go say something. So but it's like the raging narcisses

661
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Speaker 5: or the guys that have nothing to lose, like, fuck it, what,

662
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Speaker 5: I'm crazy? Anyways, you here, so I'm gonna go Hi,

663
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Speaker 5: I'm sowing so nice to meet you.

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Speaker 6: So maybe that's why yeah, right there, Actually this is

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Speaker 6: why I don't date that.

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Speaker 7: Man right here.

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Speaker 10: I mean, just think about that, the super hot hit,

668
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Speaker 10: the normal dude that's cool is not gonna come up

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Speaker 10: to you and be normal because he's normal and thinks, oh,

670
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Speaker 10: probably I don't have a shot at this.

671
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 2: But the narcissistic, crazy, overly confident, cocky, arrogant bastard named

672
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 2: Joseph Lopez thought he's just cute.

673
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.

674
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 2: That was like, oh I could pull this one, goes

675
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 2: up and hollers at her. Yep, no wonder why you

676
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 2: used to always just talk to every chicken can pull them.

677
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 6: See, that's how I love you. You're I'm used to it.

678
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 6: I'm you're used to.

679
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 2: Guys like me going I'm home exactly. He's such a

680
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 2: sick pervert window, Joe, why are you talking to me

681
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 2: like this? Oh God, I feel like I'm a kid again.

682
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 2: That's a good analogy. That's a good that's a good

683
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 2: whole thing. But Joe, what do you guys think of this?

684
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 2: Do you guys think this is a good thing that

685
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 2: they're doing out there in Oklahoma University?

686
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 3: Personally?

687
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 2: First off, I love when research like this is done right,

688
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 2: and if the University of Oklahoma is out there doing it,

689
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 2: it's legal out there now, they're you know, they're passing it.

690
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 3: It's I want to see more schools.

691
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,719
Speaker 2: I want to see more millions of people because this

692
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 2: is you know, several thousands this and that, and you

693
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 2: got to go back and test earlier people as well, right,

694
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 2: because they're looking at that eighteen to twenty five demographic,

695
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 2: which is kind of your demographic, Connor that Jen, what

696
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 2: is this generation.

697
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 3: Called not gen Z gen Z the gen Z generation, which.

698
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 2: Is cool to look at but I also think it's

699
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 2: fair to look at older generations as well.

700
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, we just need as much data as possible with cannabis.

701
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 2: And I think it's going to be conflicting, right because like,

702
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 2: I'm the one of four in this scenario that cannabis

703
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 2: was my first yea, and then I'm the one of

704
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 2: four of us that's completely sober now too, because I

705
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 2: went from doing that to a lot of other drugs

706
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 2: and abusing.

707
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 3: Them, you know what I mean to where like is

708
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 3: that something? This is just our story.

709
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 2: This is just the anecdotal evidence that we would compose

710
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 2: right here and say, well, Joe, you were first using

711
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 2: and when you look at it, they didn't have any

712
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 2: examples from this generation. But from my with this experience

713
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 2: I had, I'm that one bad apple that went the sideways.

714
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 5: If we didn't exist, you probably would have fried all

715
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 5: those drugs anyway.

716
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 6: So weed wasn't necessarily a gay way and one of barness.

717
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 3: Christine, I do feel that way too.

718
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 2: I don't feel like because then it was like, Okay,

719
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 2: I did my first line when I was a sophomore

720
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 2: in high score my freshman I think sophomore in freshman

721
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 2: year or whatever. It was, and then it just went

722
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 2: on from there, right and then I just had a

723
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 2: complete addiction where I was doing them every day and

724
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 2: doing it all the time. But it did result from

725
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 2: a lot of childhood trauma and issues that I had,

726
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 2: So it wasn't like, oh, I just did that because

727
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 2: it was the only thing. You know, and everybody has issues.

728
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 2: My issues were my issues. Everybody has them, you know.

729
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 2: I mean, let alone whatever you have, but it's how

730
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 2: you deal with them, and for me, dealing with them

731
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 2: was using a lot of drugs and alcohol. But in

732
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 2: my opinion, I never really felt when I say, you know,

733
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 2: I had the drug problem that cannabis and I never

734
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 2: used that even when I.

735
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 3: Speak at meetings or go anywhere.

736
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 2: And hence I do this show because I'm a firm

737
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 2: believer that cannabis is a great product in medicine.

738
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 3: And you know, I've been around everybody who smokes. It

739
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 3: doesn't bug me none. But it's like I'm that one.

740
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 2: Though, when it comes down to this report of if

741
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 2: you use the example for this research purpose only calling

742
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 2: it a gateway, I don't like it either. I think

743
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 2: it's ridiculous because you're gonna do what you're gonna do.

744
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 3: Period. There's not a gateway that must say.

745
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 2: Then if you did breast milk, did you become a

746
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 2: drug addict? If you didn't, it was breast milk your gateway,

747
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

748
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 3: Like, what are you? What else you're gonna do?

749
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 7: None of them are mutually exclusive.

750
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 2: Did you give your son and daughter medication as a kid?

751
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 2: Did they have a surgery at a young age? So

752
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 2: there you know they became an addict? Like what's the gateway?

753
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 3: What is it?

754
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 2: Did you have a break your ankle and you had

755
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 2: to have an operation? Is that your gateway? Like to me,

756
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 2: it's just kind of like.

757
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 3: A little too Yeah.

758
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 2: I can give you another examples of other gateways, you

759
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 2: know what I mean. I just don't like the gateway.

760
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 2: Although I'm saying I've changed my perspective on it, I'm

761
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 2: not gonna lie in said at one point I thought

762
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 2: it was to be fair to where like I was

763
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 2: that guy, but I never vote verbally went ran with

764
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 2: it so hard.

765
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 3: But I kind of thought it like, oh yeah, maybe

766
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 3: cannabis was my gateway because that's when it was. And

767
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 3: I was like, no, where where.

768
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 7: Did the where gateway come from? Like fucking corsy.

769
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 5: People are dick to do escaping reality too. That's why

770
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 5: it's different drugs, So it's not like the actual drug.

771
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 6: They just need to escape escape reality.

772
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know when you grow up like a

773
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 2: Joe like I did, it was pretty crazy.

774
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 3: You know. My oldest brother who got me high.

775
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 2: When I was six, He was in and out of

776
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 2: prison from ten and this and that, and the Fed's

777
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 2: coming in, breaking in the doors and the kids coming

778
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 2: and it was fucking.

779
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 3: Crazy growing up dog. You know what I'm saying it.

780
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 2: Where it's like, oh, yeah, there's a lot of crazy

781
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 2: shit that went down, but for me to deal with it,

782
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 2: that was my escape. And then once I dealt it, okay,

783
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 2: up cool now. But you know it's all good gateway

784
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 2: or not. It's it's not gonna.

785
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 6: Be a case for a lot of people saising you too. Trauma.

786
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 5: So like I had PSD, So my house got raided

787
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 5: for you know, with the glorious person I made I married.

788
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 5: But so I would be dead asses asleep and I

789
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 5: would hear my friend door get kicked in, and I

790
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 5: would hear my bedroom. I'd hear people coming up the

791
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 5: stairs screaming. I'd hear my bedroom doors get kicked in,

792
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 5: and I'm sitting straight up in bed, going.

793
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 6: What the fuck? Because this was before the internet. I'm

794
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 6: forty four, right, so I didn't know about PSDD.

795
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 5: All I know is I'm hearing my house being destroyed

796
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 5: and people coming in screaming, and I was dead asked

797
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 5: to sleep, like what the fuck's going on? And it

798
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 5: would happen like they would go, you know, I'd be

799
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 5: asleep and then the same thing, wake up and but.

800
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 6: You know, now I know it's post traumatic stress. So

801
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 6: because that obviously traumatized me when I heard that door,

802
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 6: But it's weird because I was still half asleep.

803
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 5: And it's weird how just the brain members right because

804
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 5: I wasn't awake until the double doors you know, kicked in.

805
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 5: But my my PSDD was I would hear the front

806
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 5: door kicked in when I was still, of course half asleep,

807
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 5: and they'd still hear the people coming in, and then

808
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 5: those doors just almost like on a cycle.

809
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 6: So I couldn't even imagine like people out in Orley

810
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 6: as a kid, because I.

811
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 5: Was nineteen when my house got raided, so I could

812
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 5: process it a bit bit more. But you as a kid,

813
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 5: I mean and That's my point is it traumatized me

814
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 5: on a cellar level door.

815
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 6: I'd be asleep and it would wake me up.

816
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 3: The true much there's so many things. I just told

817
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 3: you off air that I just had a nightmare the

818
00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 3: other day.

819
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 2: That I was being attacked and I was fighting up

820
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 2: to where I I'm downstairs, and I woke up my wife,

821
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 2: who was upstairs sleeping.

822
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 3: That's type of relationship we have, but that's a whole

823
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 3: different podcast.

824
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 6: She's taking her nap, Yeah, exactly, And I mean.

825
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 3: I was, fuck you, I got the power. I'm screaming.

826
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 3: She literally thought that someone was in the house.

827
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 6: You're actually vocalizing. I thought you were saying in your dream,

828
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 6: so you were actually yelling.

829
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 2: See, I was thinking that I was only in my dream,

830
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 2: but I thought I was yelling. But I was yelling

831
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 2: to the point where she has the fan upstairs in

832
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 2: the room, Like there's noise rooms.

833
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 3: We have a noise thing in the room to help

834
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 3: just to noise out everything.

835
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 2: And I fucking woke up out of a dead sleep,

836
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 2: and she didn't want to come downstairs because she thought

837
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 2: I was fighting with someone who broke in the house.

838
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 3: Wow.

839
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,439
Speaker 2: And so you know, maybe the trauma is still there.

840
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 2: Maybe it's to the point that I was like, I

841
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 2: can't wait. I got to bring this something. My therapist

842
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 2: and my psychiatrist like, what's going on.

843
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 6: That's a crazy thing to think about it.

844
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 5: I would be dead asleep, So it's not like i'd

845
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 5: go out and see a cop I'm like, oh my god,

846
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 5: I'm PSD. I would be dead ass asleep and I

847
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 5: would just hear it like it was happening again.

848
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 6: It would wake me up and I'd be.

849
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 5: Wide awake on what the fuck, and I would still

850
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 5: hear it, and then to like calm down, like to

851
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:02,240
Speaker 5: where it go, I'm.

852
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 6: Like, Okay, what the fuck? Like just dead ass asleep.

853
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 6: So it's it's we need to.

854
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 3: Help each other out and just sleep with each other.

855
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