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Speaker 1: Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is

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Speaker 1: a production of the NFL and iHeart Podcasts. We got lots,

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Speaker 1: just say, we got lots to say?

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Speaker 2: What Becker here and we hope you say because.

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Speaker 3: We got lost? Just say, yeah we got lost.

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Speaker 4: Just say here's.

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Speaker 5: Bobby that.

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Speaker 3: Ian rapport coming up.

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Speaker 2: I'd like to start because Matt I was talking about

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Speaker 2: you today on NFL Network.

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Speaker 3: I bet that went really well, Like who like you

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Speaker 3: did when you first heard my name, You're like, was

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Speaker 3: that the guy in New England? That? Well, that is true.

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Speaker 2: I didn't say who I was like the guy in

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Speaker 2: New England.

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Speaker 3: Not need more than that one.

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Speaker 2: So you know what's odd is I wouldn't define you

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Speaker 2: as a I can now that we spend a little

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Speaker 2: more time together. I can see you're a bit quirky.

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Speaker 2: But people that know you go, he's a.

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Speaker 3: Quirky Guyney, What does that even mean? I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I kind of take it as disrespectful. Time I have

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Speaker 3: been called and the most recent comment was by Todd Blackledge.

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Speaker 3: We were on the road and he's like, I made

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Speaker 3: a joke and he goes, You're just a weird guy.

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Speaker 3: I was like, weird I get weird a lot more

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Speaker 3: more than quirky. Weird feels a little bit more, you know,

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Speaker 3: take me down a notch. It just puts you in

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Speaker 3: a different category.

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Speaker 2: Weird feels like weird people do bad things. Yes, quirky

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Speaker 2: people just unpredictable. But I just got off a call

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Speaker 2: and with one of the producers and they were like, oh,

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Speaker 2: Matt Castle, we like me because you've done Good Morning

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Speaker 2: Football before, right, yes, And they were like, he's a

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Speaker 2: quirky guy. And that was just in my head, and

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Speaker 2: so I did say, yeah, it's quirky guy, but that

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Speaker 2: just no, that's where that came from, because I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: have called you quirky.

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Speaker 3: I don't use that word. But here's what I said.

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Speaker 2: Here's what I said about Matt a little bit ago

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Speaker 2: on Good Morning Football on NFL Network, that Castle, who

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Speaker 2: is like the quirkiest dude.

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Speaker 3: I love this dude.

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Speaker 2: It's you know, I remember him when Brady goes down

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Speaker 2: and she and wins eleven games, and so I didn't

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Speaker 2: really know him, and he lives in Nashville, and so

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Speaker 2: we start to friends and I feel like God had

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Speaker 2: two buckets, okay, and there were the two buckets, and

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Speaker 2: he was supposed to put equal amount in each looks athleticism, height,

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Speaker 2: intelligence like you and Matt's bucket, and then remember there

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Speaker 2: was just a little bit for me. So that's the

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Speaker 2: annoying part about that, because like, dude played college baseball

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Speaker 2: because he was born in college. So it's really fun

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Speaker 2: Matt Castle relationship. He's a great dude, but he just

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Speaker 2: was given too many talents. And I'm a little jealous, man,

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Speaker 3: You just filled my cup for the day, maybe for

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Speaker 3: the week, maybe for the month. He didn't need to

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Speaker 3: be filled. As my point, you haven't all man. I'm

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Speaker 3: going to go home and record that and just put

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Speaker 3: that on repeat for my family so that they know

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Speaker 3: that's like, guys, this is the type of individual that's

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Speaker 3: your father, your husband. I'm here for you now. You

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Speaker 3: just need to see these same talents in me.

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Speaker 2: What I'll do with my wife sometimes is that. And

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you can speak on this too. Like anything

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Speaker 2: that my wife really loved about me surface level when

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Speaker 3: As appealing anymore. Like she just think I was hilarious.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and I through my career have been celebrated by

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Speaker 2: great jobs monetary rewards for being funny or being compelling,

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Speaker 2: can't make her laugh or anything right, Like she already

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Speaker 2: knows I'm going. She doesn't like if I get any

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Speaker 2: laugh at all, I point out her, like, ah, like

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Speaker 2: and I'm just crushing it at dinner, yes, of course

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Speaker 2: And so we're there and we'll go home and I'll be.

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Speaker 3: Like, see, I am funny. See do you see you

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Speaker 2: Like that's that's what you don't even respect anymore.

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Speaker 3: That's me. I get the honey, they're laughing at you,

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Speaker 3: to take it down a notch. What were you like

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Speaker 3: But in the locker room, I mean, I'm all about

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Speaker 2: Would you ever give the speech pre.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, you know not. When I was younger,

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Speaker 3: this guy. But as I went to Kansas City, became

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Speaker 2: Why do you think a guy like Justin Herbert this

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, there's some guys that you know, if there's

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Speaker 3: Ray Lewis loved having a camera there for his speeches.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's another guy that has legendary speeches and

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Speaker 3: And you don't know what came out of those speeches,

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Speaker 3: a different approach to that pregame speech. And it's more

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Speaker 2: From what I know about Justin Herbert, you know, not

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Speaker 3: With the Chargers as well.

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Speaker 2: It seems like a pretty quiet guy, hard worker, but

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Speaker 3: There's definitely those leaders. And I'll use one example, and

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Speaker 3: his background, how he was raised, humble, background, quiet, but

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Speaker 3: the second year is, you know, there's times where you

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Speaker 3: go to Randy Moss. Tom would talk to him at

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Speaker 3: the locker after practice, so his leadership was a little different.

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Speaker 3: But they have to be able to hear your voice

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Speaker 3: at times, and I said, there's different ways. Like I said,

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Speaker 3: there's on the field stuff, but then some of the

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Speaker 3: biggest components are going into the film room and sitting

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Speaker 3: It's just another way to lead and be vocal, even

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Speaker 3: if you're not comfortable always doing it in front of

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Speaker 2: Not asking for names. It does feel like though, that

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Speaker 2: is a cliche that everybody uses. First one in, last

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I love that first one in, last one out

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Speaker 6: where there are guys star guys that you're like, man,

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Speaker 6: they just put in very little effort in it.

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Speaker 2: If they put in if they were mid one in

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Speaker 3: And then they also never had to be taught certain

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Speaker 3: Did you play with them? Yeah, he's my boy, not

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Speaker 3: he would talk so much trash to Belichick, to Brady

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Speaker 3: It was a masterclass. We'd come in the second offseason

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Speaker 3: offensive side of the ball. When you take over an organization

433
00:20:06,576 --> 00:20:09,296
Speaker 3: as the head coach, your messaging has to be clear

434
00:20:09,296 --> 00:20:12,815
Speaker 3: to everybody. And I think it's difficult sometimes when you

435
00:20:12,856 --> 00:20:17,656
Speaker 3: come from a Belichick style background, where he has full

436
00:20:17,696 --> 00:20:20,656
Speaker 3: control and he's got his hand in everything. He's meeting

437
00:20:20,656 --> 00:20:23,536
Speaker 3: with the quarterbacks. Certain days, he's meeting with the wide receivers,

438
00:20:23,576 --> 00:20:27,815
Speaker 3: he's meeting with the linebackers. That that's what you think,

439
00:20:28,416 --> 00:20:30,656
Speaker 3: that's how you think that it's supposed to operate on

440
00:20:30,656 --> 00:20:32,735
Speaker 3: a toy day. And I think that that rubs people

441
00:20:32,816 --> 00:20:35,696
Speaker 3: the wrong way, and then you fall out of favor

442
00:20:36,136 --> 00:20:38,576
Speaker 3: with some of the players, with some of the coaches.

443
00:20:38,776 --> 00:20:43,336
Speaker 3: And I really believe that's probably what happened in some cases,

444
00:20:43,816 --> 00:20:46,136
Speaker 3: primarily with Denver, not so much with the Raiders because

445
00:20:46,176 --> 00:20:49,616
Speaker 3: obviously ownership's a little bit messed up there.

446
00:20:50,495 --> 00:20:55,055
Speaker 2: I've never met someone with a dynamic, strong personality that

447
00:20:55,215 --> 00:20:59,856
Speaker 2: is beloved. I mean, my goal is not to be beloved.

448
00:20:59,856 --> 00:21:03,896
Speaker 2: My goal is to say and do as I feel.

449
00:21:03,936 --> 00:21:05,376
Speaker 2: As long as I'm a point of the leader, which

450
00:21:05,455 --> 00:21:07,136
Speaker 2: for the last few years been going pretty good, and

451
00:21:07,416 --> 00:21:10,095
Speaker 2: lead my crew, I don't really need them to always

452
00:21:10,215 --> 00:21:10,496
Speaker 2: like it.

453
00:21:10,576 --> 00:21:12,735
Speaker 3: I just need them to respect it. That's a one

454
00:21:12,816 --> 00:21:13,696
Speaker 3: hundred percent.

455
00:21:13,656 --> 00:21:15,775
Speaker 2: Because no one's ever going to like all the things

456
00:21:15,776 --> 00:21:18,376
Speaker 2: all the time. No, but as long as they respect it,

457
00:21:18,856 --> 00:21:21,775
Speaker 2: and I bring up I bring him up because I

458
00:21:21,776 --> 00:21:24,176
Speaker 2: wonder if he's going to beat the offensive coordinator. I've

459
00:21:24,176 --> 00:21:27,975
Speaker 2: heard a couple places that that's who Vrabel would like

460
00:21:28,056 --> 00:21:30,575
Speaker 2: to bring with him, right and would that be, in

461
00:21:30,616 --> 00:21:33,256
Speaker 2: your opinion, a good move, brilliant move in the best

462
00:21:33,256 --> 00:21:33,776
Speaker 2: case scenario.

463
00:21:33,975 --> 00:21:37,056
Speaker 3: Best case scenario because you've got a young quarterback. He's

464
00:21:37,056 --> 00:21:40,575
Speaker 3: developed young quarterbacks before. He's a brilliant mind as an

465
00:21:40,616 --> 00:21:43,576
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator. He knows the area, he lives in the area.

466
00:21:43,816 --> 00:21:45,336
Speaker 3: He's not coaching right now. You don't have to buy

467
00:21:45,376 --> 00:21:47,696
Speaker 3: out a contract or anything like that. And he's a

468
00:21:47,735 --> 00:21:50,776
Speaker 3: guy that will give your offense stability and also really

469
00:21:50,816 --> 00:21:54,096
Speaker 3: help Drake may going into this second year because again

470
00:21:55,096 --> 00:21:58,535
Speaker 3: it's for that quarterback oc relationship. He doesn't have an

471
00:21:58,576 --> 00:22:00,656
Speaker 3: ego when he's in that roommellies. He didn't with me. Now,

472
00:22:00,696 --> 00:22:03,136
Speaker 3: he'd hold you accountable and you respect what he has

473
00:22:03,176 --> 00:22:06,096
Speaker 3: to say. But he also was collab He's like, what

474
00:22:06,096 --> 00:22:07,575
Speaker 3: do you like on third down? What do you like

475
00:22:07,616 --> 00:22:09,096
Speaker 3: in the red zone? I want to call things that

476
00:22:09,136 --> 00:22:11,336
Speaker 3: you like. And that's the most important thing I'll never forget.

477
00:22:11,376 --> 00:22:13,696
Speaker 3: When I first took over, in the two minute drill,

478
00:22:13,735 --> 00:22:15,496
Speaker 3: we used to go two by two to three by one,

479
00:22:15,495 --> 00:22:18,696
Speaker 3: which means two wide receivers, two wide receivers based on

480
00:22:18,776 --> 00:22:21,255
Speaker 3: hash and I said, I'm more comfortable three by one

481
00:22:21,296 --> 00:22:23,296
Speaker 3: three by one. I just saw the field better that way.

482
00:22:23,296 --> 00:22:25,656
Speaker 3: He's like, no problem, that's exactly what we'll do. Immediately

483
00:22:25,656 --> 00:22:28,295
Speaker 3: switch it. And we had success in two minute doing that.

484
00:22:28,616 --> 00:22:31,216
Speaker 3: And so those are the type of coaches and things

485
00:22:31,256 --> 00:22:33,976
Speaker 3: that you think about for a young player. You have

486
00:22:34,056 --> 00:22:36,896
Speaker 3: to allow them to grow as a leader, but at

487
00:22:36,936 --> 00:22:39,776
Speaker 3: the same time you have to hear their voice as well,

488
00:22:39,816 --> 00:22:43,215
Speaker 3: because sometimes as young football players you just run the

489
00:22:43,256 --> 00:22:45,616
Speaker 3: system right. You don't always speak up for what you

490
00:22:45,696 --> 00:22:48,455
Speaker 3: believe in. If you don't understand a play, you're like, Okay,

491
00:22:48,576 --> 00:22:50,255
Speaker 3: coach said it's going to work, so I'm going to

492
00:22:50,296 --> 00:22:52,656
Speaker 3: go out. But it's sometimes it just doesn't feel right,

493
00:22:52,735 --> 00:22:55,576
Speaker 3: and so you're like, let's make this adjustment or allow

494
00:22:55,656 --> 00:22:58,575
Speaker 3: him to feel comfortable speaking with you to say I

495
00:22:58,576 --> 00:23:01,255
Speaker 3: feel more comfortable with this, and then then you're going

496
00:23:01,336 --> 00:23:03,936
Speaker 3: to be probably you're going to execute that play a

497
00:23:03,936 --> 00:23:06,576
Speaker 3: lot better than if you're fifty to fifty on it.

498
00:23:21,576 --> 00:23:25,495
Speaker 2: Kevin being a big Pats fan, massive diehard, Oh yeah right.

499
00:23:25,735 --> 00:23:29,856
Speaker 2: Hearing him say all of that, I don't know get

500
00:23:29,896 --> 00:23:32,656
Speaker 2: like a little half half ut.

501
00:23:32,735 --> 00:23:35,255
Speaker 4: Yeah, just a little bit, Yeah, a little bit, just

502
00:23:35,296 --> 00:23:36,936
Speaker 4: so you can see a little something. But yeah, yeah,

503
00:23:36,975 --> 00:23:40,295
Speaker 4: absolutely absolutely. I mean we talked about it earlier this

504
00:23:40,376 --> 00:23:43,376
Speaker 4: week Vrabel. I love that and McDaniels bring him back.

505
00:23:43,376 --> 00:23:45,015
Speaker 4: I'm all for it, man. And then Matt fires me

506
00:23:45,096 --> 00:23:46,775
Speaker 4: up even more because obviously he worked with him, so

507
00:23:47,416 --> 00:23:47,896
Speaker 4: I love it.

508
00:23:48,016 --> 00:23:48,775
Speaker 3: Get him on board.

509
00:23:48,975 --> 00:23:51,055
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to talk about Deon Sanders for a second.

510
00:23:51,136 --> 00:23:54,735
Speaker 2: And so here's my story with Dion. It was probably

511
00:23:54,776 --> 00:23:57,536
Speaker 2: seven years ago at this point, and I get called

512
00:23:57,576 --> 00:24:02,296
Speaker 2: to Los Angeles. This is before my television career had

513
00:24:02,416 --> 00:24:03,496
Speaker 2: started to have any success.

514
00:24:03,495 --> 00:24:05,376
Speaker 3: It was before I did four years on Idol, before

515
00:24:05,495 --> 00:24:07,735
Speaker 3: I did Bear Giryls, before any of this stuff.

516
00:24:08,296 --> 00:24:11,336
Speaker 2: And so they call me out because I've been doing

517
00:24:11,336 --> 00:24:13,576
Speaker 2: a little here and there, just like begging for work.

518
00:24:14,016 --> 00:24:17,416
Speaker 2: Like I was secretly flying out to California telling people

519
00:24:17,576 --> 00:24:19,495
Speaker 2: that I was in town. Could they meet and if

520
00:24:19,536 --> 00:24:21,176
Speaker 2: they could, I would just fly out there and meet them,

521
00:24:21,256 --> 00:24:23,255
Speaker 2: like iould just hustle, like, Hey, I'm going to be

522
00:24:23,336 --> 00:24:26,856
Speaker 2: here on Friday afternoon, any chance you want to get together?

523
00:24:27,176 --> 00:24:27,376
Speaker 3: You know?

524
00:24:27,495 --> 00:24:29,096
Speaker 2: And yeah, and I don't drink, but I'd be like,

525
00:24:29,176 --> 00:24:31,816
Speaker 2: have a drink and so they'd be like, yeah.

526
00:24:31,616 --> 00:24:32,656
Speaker 3: Sure, they set the meeting.

527
00:24:32,656 --> 00:24:34,136
Speaker 2: Then I'd fly out there right, and I was going

528
00:24:34,176 --> 00:24:36,376
Speaker 2: back and forth and I'd met some really great people.

529
00:24:36,416 --> 00:24:39,896
Speaker 2: And the crazy thing about Hollywood, and I'm not Hollywood

530
00:24:39,936 --> 00:24:42,055
Speaker 2: at all, but they say a bunch of crap they

531
00:24:42,056 --> 00:24:47,776
Speaker 2: don't mean. Generally, it's culture. That's the culture that they say,

532
00:24:47,776 --> 00:24:50,215
Speaker 2: a bunch of crap that they don't mean. But I

533
00:24:50,256 --> 00:24:54,255
Speaker 2: did meet somebody that was really nice, never believed anything

534
00:24:54,256 --> 00:24:57,735
Speaker 2: anybody said, but she was like, Hey, we're doing this.

535
00:24:57,735 --> 00:25:01,016
Speaker 2: This basically a cattle call for people because we're doing

536
00:25:01,016 --> 00:25:03,456
Speaker 2: a new daytime daytime talk show on ABC. And she's

537
00:25:03,455 --> 00:25:04,696
Speaker 2: like you should come out and be one of the

538
00:25:04,735 --> 00:25:07,296
Speaker 2: people to try for it. And I'm thinking, well, that's cool.

539
00:25:07,336 --> 00:25:09,416
Speaker 2: I wonder if it's real. And then not only that,

540
00:25:09,776 --> 00:25:11,576
Speaker 2: it's probably gonna be like I'm gonnahow up fifteen twenty

541
00:25:11,616 --> 00:25:14,616
Speaker 2: other people that look like me and then more famous

542
00:25:14,656 --> 00:25:16,295
Speaker 2: than me, better, like all the things that I think.

543
00:25:16,455 --> 00:25:19,376
Speaker 2: I'm wildly insecure. And so I'm like, Okay, we'll see

544
00:25:19,416 --> 00:25:20,775
Speaker 2: what happens. So then I get a call it's like, hey,

545
00:25:20,816 --> 00:25:22,216
Speaker 2: it's in two weeks. We'd love for you to come.

546
00:25:23,215 --> 00:25:26,296
Speaker 2: Here's where it is, And so I go and there's

547
00:25:26,455 --> 00:25:28,376
Speaker 2: like one hundred and fifty people.

548
00:25:28,776 --> 00:25:31,455
Speaker 3: Well, there wasn't forty, there was one hundred and fifty.

549
00:25:31,616 --> 00:25:34,455
Speaker 2: I was thinking, like worst case scenario fifteen. There's like

550
00:25:34,455 --> 00:25:36,896
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty to two hundred people there, and

551
00:25:36,936 --> 00:25:41,496
Speaker 2: it's everyone from the girl that played Rudy Huxtable, Lance Bass.

552
00:25:42,016 --> 00:25:45,696
Speaker 2: It's oh my god, it's like all of the me

553
00:25:45,856 --> 00:25:47,855
Speaker 2: tier of celebrity, right, not really famous.

554
00:25:47,856 --> 00:25:49,176
Speaker 3: But were you intimidated at all?

555
00:25:49,696 --> 00:25:51,535
Speaker 2: I was like, I thought there'd be like fifty. No,

556
00:25:51,536 --> 00:25:53,856
Speaker 2: I have no confidence, so especially at that, I have

557
00:25:53,896 --> 00:25:58,136
Speaker 2: no confidence. Come on, outwardly, I am confident. Inwardly, I'm

558
00:25:58,215 --> 00:26:01,936
Speaker 2: still wildly insecure, and so I'm like, what even is this?

559
00:26:02,016 --> 00:26:02,936
Speaker 3: So they sit you at.

560
00:26:02,856 --> 00:26:07,735
Speaker 2: A table with three other randoms, housewife of newsper and

561
00:26:07,776 --> 00:26:08,775
Speaker 2: they're like, talk about this.

562
00:26:09,215 --> 00:26:09,535
Speaker 3: Okay.

563
00:26:09,576 --> 00:26:13,616
Speaker 2: Now I'm confident because I'm a Swiss army knife. Because

564
00:26:13,616 --> 00:26:16,696
Speaker 2: I've had to develop those skills. I covered fashion for

565
00:26:16,776 --> 00:26:19,536
Speaker 2: E on the Red Carpet. I did you really yeah,

566
00:26:19,656 --> 00:26:22,616
Speaker 2: like two years ago such as well, I've had to

567
00:26:22,656 --> 00:26:25,616
Speaker 2: learn it. I can do sports, I can do music,

568
00:26:25,816 --> 00:26:29,056
Speaker 2: I can do come but it's all because I don't

569
00:26:29,056 --> 00:26:31,376
Speaker 2: feel like, I have an absolute skill. So I've learned

570
00:26:31,376 --> 00:26:34,335
Speaker 2: all these like I'm like Verbel basically, I'm I'm so

571
00:26:34,616 --> 00:26:39,255
Speaker 2: I want to learn everything, and so I'm crushing to

572
00:26:39,336 --> 00:26:41,696
Speaker 2: where it's like a survivor type thing where some people

573
00:26:41,696 --> 00:26:43,536
Speaker 2: they just send home and they continue not to send

574
00:26:43,536 --> 00:26:45,815
Speaker 2: me home. Yeah, And so at the end of the day,

575
00:26:45,816 --> 00:26:48,096
Speaker 2: there's like six people left and I'm like, they're six,

576
00:26:48,136 --> 00:26:49,656
Speaker 2: I'm only four for the show. I got this job.

577
00:26:50,016 --> 00:26:51,975
Speaker 2: This is like just odds are I'm going to be

578
00:26:52,096 --> 00:26:53,576
Speaker 2: the host of the day Times like me and julian

579
00:26:53,656 --> 00:26:56,336
Speaker 2: A Ransick and some other And so they come and

580
00:26:56,336 --> 00:26:59,735
Speaker 2: they go, okay, you six, You're moving to tomorrow for

581
00:26:59,816 --> 00:27:00,416
Speaker 2: the real call.

582
00:27:01,056 --> 00:27:03,016
Speaker 6: And I'm like, oh, I just did double a baseball.

583
00:27:03,296 --> 00:27:06,136
Speaker 6: That wasn't that wasn't even the pro No, you started,

584
00:27:06,336 --> 00:27:09,936
Speaker 6: you started rookie ball, single a. Now we're at double

585
00:27:10,296 --> 00:27:13,496
Speaker 6: it feeling great? Yes, I thought I had just got

586
00:27:13,536 --> 00:27:14,015
Speaker 6: the show.

587
00:27:14,455 --> 00:27:18,936
Speaker 2: And so the next day hard hitters actual famous people

588
00:27:19,215 --> 00:27:24,495
Speaker 2: that have credentials and news and like famous writers.

589
00:27:25,495 --> 00:27:28,215
Speaker 3: Wow, it's famous, right, And so I'm there and how

590
00:27:28,296 --> 00:27:33,056
Speaker 3: many people the second day eighty eighty eighty Oh my god,

591
00:27:33,176 --> 00:27:34,735
Speaker 3: I would think eighty seventy five to eighty.

592
00:27:34,936 --> 00:27:36,576
Speaker 2: And also they weren't calling them all in at once

593
00:27:36,616 --> 00:27:39,576
Speaker 2: because they actually were famous were with us that were

594
00:27:39,616 --> 00:27:40,455
Speaker 2: fake famous.

595
00:27:40,696 --> 00:27:43,056
Speaker 3: They could just be like, yeah, just show up and

596
00:27:43,096 --> 00:27:43,455
Speaker 3: just wait.

597
00:27:43,616 --> 00:27:46,336
Speaker 2: And we did like the little you know, we were

598
00:27:46,416 --> 00:27:48,736
Speaker 2: just happy to have a shot. Yeah, so I get

599
00:27:48,816 --> 00:27:52,816
Speaker 2: I stayed the second day and you know, seventy seventy

600
00:27:52,856 --> 00:27:55,856
Speaker 2: five people and the same thing. Go to the table talk.

601
00:27:56,016 --> 00:27:59,775
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what they bring up, if it's politics

602
00:27:59,856 --> 00:28:03,536
Speaker 2: or sports or pop culture. I'm in. I'm in because

603
00:28:03,735 --> 00:28:06,015
Speaker 2: I read a lot to keep up. I have a

604
00:28:06,056 --> 00:28:08,455
Speaker 2: lot of personal like stories for my life that relates

605
00:28:08,576 --> 00:28:12,696
Speaker 2: and I'm crushing it again. Yeah, and so it's down

606
00:28:12,735 --> 00:28:15,336
Speaker 2: to like twenty or so, and that they're cutting people

607
00:28:15,336 --> 00:28:17,455
Speaker 2: as it goes, So will they just come up and

608
00:28:17,495 --> 00:28:20,696
Speaker 2: like tap the short when it's over? They would see

609
00:28:20,696 --> 00:28:23,456
Speaker 2: you in the hallway. It was very much real rumble.

610
00:28:23,215 --> 00:28:24,656
Speaker 3: And basically, hey, thanks for coming.

611
00:28:24,936 --> 00:28:27,936
Speaker 2: That's exactly what you would see people being told thanks

612
00:28:27,936 --> 00:28:30,376
Speaker 2: for coming, and be pissed and be and just be

613
00:28:30,495 --> 00:28:33,656
Speaker 2: like but I guess in that culture you're told no

614
00:28:33,735 --> 00:28:35,576
Speaker 2: to a lot of auditions. It's the time I wasn't doing.

615
00:28:35,616 --> 00:28:37,976
Speaker 2: I want there were no auditions, that nobody cared enough,

616
00:28:38,736 --> 00:28:41,336
Speaker 2: and so there's like twenty left. They say, go to lunch,

617
00:28:41,696 --> 00:28:43,536
Speaker 2: and I go to lunch and I freaking see I

618
00:28:43,616 --> 00:28:44,256
Speaker 2: never met him before.

619
00:28:44,256 --> 00:28:46,096
Speaker 3: I see Dean Sanders sitting at a table and.

620
00:28:46,056 --> 00:28:48,096
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, this is like one of

621
00:28:48,176 --> 00:28:51,856
Speaker 2: the greats of my lifetime. Yeah, is absolute stud in

622
00:28:51,856 --> 00:28:55,696
Speaker 2: in every way, because it was not only football, not

623
00:28:55,736 --> 00:29:01,416
Speaker 2: only baseball. I had his tape that must be the money, Yes,

624
00:29:01,456 --> 00:29:01,776
Speaker 2: I had.

625
00:29:03,096 --> 00:29:05,656
Speaker 3: That was the worst video of all us.

626
00:29:05,696 --> 00:29:08,656
Speaker 2: The guy and he's sitting at this table. There's really

627
00:29:08,656 --> 00:29:11,176
Speaker 2: nowhere else to sit. It's very much a Forrest Gump scene.

628
00:29:11,296 --> 00:29:13,216
Speaker 2: Whenever he can't sit here, I can't see. I'm looking

629
00:29:13,256 --> 00:29:14,936
Speaker 2: around and I don't fit in any of the clicks.

630
00:29:15,536 --> 00:29:18,296
Speaker 2: And Dion looks up and goes, hey, young man, I

631
00:29:18,296 --> 00:29:20,456
Speaker 2: wht you comes sit over here? And I'm like looking

632
00:29:20,496 --> 00:29:22,456
Speaker 2: behind me, because the worst is when someone waves and

633
00:29:22,456 --> 00:29:24,136
Speaker 2: you wave back and you realize that somebody behind it.

634
00:29:24,216 --> 00:29:26,856
Speaker 2: Oh god, and you like fix your hair. Instead, there

635
00:29:26,896 --> 00:29:28,376
Speaker 2: was nobody behind me. I'm like, he goes, yeah, come

636
00:29:28,416 --> 00:29:30,536
Speaker 2: sit down. I got an open seat. I'm sitting next

637
00:29:30,536 --> 00:29:33,136
Speaker 2: to Dion Sanders and I'm talking with and he's right,

638
00:29:33,176 --> 00:29:35,416
Speaker 2: the nicest guy, right, And I'm just thinking to myself,

639
00:29:35,416 --> 00:29:36,736
Speaker 2: I got to remember all this. My friends aren't going

640
00:29:36,776 --> 00:29:38,816
Speaker 2: to believe me that I'm sitting next to Dion Sanders

641
00:29:38,816 --> 00:29:41,536
Speaker 2: freaking prime time and he's so kind and he again

642
00:29:41,616 --> 00:29:44,776
Speaker 2: he allowed Jenny or Forrest to sit on the bus,

643
00:29:45,176 --> 00:29:46,616
Speaker 2: and so I sit on the bus and I'm with

644
00:29:46,776 --> 00:29:47,456
Speaker 2: and we have a launch.

645
00:29:47,456 --> 00:29:48,095
Speaker 3: We go to the next thing.

646
00:29:48,136 --> 00:29:52,176
Speaker 2: Eventually we get teamed together because they're just putting in chemistry,

647
00:29:52,216 --> 00:29:54,776
Speaker 2: checking people and so at this time there's probably fourteen

648
00:29:54,856 --> 00:29:57,056
Speaker 2: or fifteen people left, and Dion and I get on

649
00:29:57,056 --> 00:29:59,376
Speaker 2: a panel together and they tell the other two people

650
00:29:59,376 --> 00:30:00,576
Speaker 2: to leave it till Danaia to stay.

651
00:30:01,296 --> 00:30:02,696
Speaker 3: Two other people coming. They told them to leave.

652
00:30:02,696 --> 00:30:04,136
Speaker 2: Deona to say and Dian and I look at you

653
00:30:04,136 --> 00:30:06,016
Speaker 2: and them like, hey, I think they like us together,

654
00:30:06,376 --> 00:30:07,776
Speaker 2: and he's like, I think you're right.

655
00:30:08,416 --> 00:30:13,216
Speaker 3: So we stay. We finished the day, we get the show. Wow.

656
00:30:13,376 --> 00:30:18,896
Speaker 2: So it's me Deon Sanders and they have another more

657
00:30:18,976 --> 00:30:22,976
Speaker 2: newsy person because for us it was like be funny,

658
00:30:23,536 --> 00:30:27,016
Speaker 2: know what's happening in current events, have life stories, but

659
00:30:27,136 --> 00:30:29,296
Speaker 2: be like well rounded and the other they had like

660
00:30:29,336 --> 00:30:34,536
Speaker 2: a news person to be that. And so for like

661
00:30:34,936 --> 00:30:38,096
Speaker 2: six weeks, I spent six hours a day with him

662
00:30:38,296 --> 00:30:38,656
Speaker 2: every day.

663
00:30:38,896 --> 00:30:41,256
Speaker 3: Wow, So you have a genuine relationship with him.

664
00:30:42,096 --> 00:30:44,736
Speaker 2: He is when people would speak ill of him and

665
00:30:44,856 --> 00:30:47,496
Speaker 2: they would be like I wanted to crawl through a

666
00:30:47,536 --> 00:30:49,336
Speaker 2: screen or through the internet and punch them in the

667
00:30:49,456 --> 00:30:59,296
Speaker 2: nose like that dude, as real as caring as everything

668
00:30:59,416 --> 00:31:03,095
Speaker 2: that he does for attention to be big and attention seeking.

669
00:31:03,336 --> 00:31:05,656
Speaker 2: He does it to be big in attention seeking, like

670
00:31:05,696 --> 00:31:09,576
Speaker 2: he knows what he's doing, so smart. So we get

671
00:31:09,576 --> 00:31:11,336
Speaker 2: to the pilot finally, because we work on this forever

672
00:31:11,416 --> 00:31:12,936
Speaker 2: ever ever, we get to the pilot.

673
00:31:13,536 --> 00:31:14,856
Speaker 3: We spent a lot of time together.

674
00:31:15,336 --> 00:31:18,896
Speaker 2: We're legitimately friends at this point, and the pilot does

675
00:31:18,936 --> 00:31:19,575
Speaker 2: not get picked up.

676
00:31:20,296 --> 00:31:20,496
Speaker 3: Ah.

677
00:31:20,856 --> 00:31:23,416
Speaker 2: So and that's the name of the game, right, that's yeah,

678
00:31:23,656 --> 00:31:25,575
Speaker 2: that's what it is. And so there had been a

679
00:31:25,656 --> 00:31:29,336
Speaker 2: change also in upper management and they decided they don't

680
00:31:29,336 --> 00:31:32,176
Speaker 2: want to go with the show. Fine, but Dean was

681
00:31:32,216 --> 00:31:35,696
Speaker 2: like the guy and I'd written my first book, and

682
00:31:35,736 --> 00:31:38,855
Speaker 2: I'd written a story about how I would run through

683
00:31:38,896 --> 00:31:42,016
Speaker 2: a wall for certain people that I've met in life,

684
00:31:42,336 --> 00:31:44,856
Speaker 2: people that wouldn't even ask me to run through a wall.

685
00:31:44,896 --> 00:31:47,336
Speaker 2: But I would do it, and he was one of them.

686
00:31:47,376 --> 00:31:51,696
Speaker 2: Just being around the guy because everything is sincere and

687
00:31:51,736 --> 00:31:54,376
Speaker 2: then when he's kidding, you know he's kidding. But there

688
00:31:54,576 --> 00:31:56,615
Speaker 2: wasn't a part of him that ever seemed like it

689
00:31:56,656 --> 00:31:59,575
Speaker 2: was disingenuous. And I was like, I would run through

690
00:31:59,656 --> 00:32:02,575
Speaker 2: wall deone post on his Instagram without me asking a

691
00:32:02,616 --> 00:32:05,896
Speaker 2: picture of him reading my book on his Instagram feed. Wow,

692
00:32:06,056 --> 00:32:08,296
Speaker 2: to just go like, you guys would check out this book, Like,

693
00:32:09,096 --> 00:32:10,016
Speaker 2: so he's that dude?

694
00:32:10,056 --> 00:32:10,376
Speaker 3: Right to me?

695
00:32:10,496 --> 00:32:12,816
Speaker 2: Is that he's That's the relationship that I had with him.

696
00:32:13,016 --> 00:32:16,256
Speaker 2: I went back and I played in this last year

697
00:32:16,336 --> 00:32:20,575
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball celebrity Softball game and he was my

698
00:32:20,656 --> 00:32:22,575
Speaker 2: coach and we ended up winning the game.

699
00:32:22,616 --> 00:32:24,496
Speaker 3: I won the MVP of the whole game. It was awesome.

700
00:32:24,536 --> 00:32:27,016
Speaker 3: Do you really Yeah, he hit some bombs.

701
00:32:27,136 --> 00:32:30,696
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hit inside the park homer. Then I won

702
00:32:30,776 --> 00:32:33,136
Speaker 2: hop defence for a triple, made the diving plays, but

703
00:32:33,216 --> 00:32:35,296
Speaker 2: he was the coat. It was so I won the MVP,

704
00:32:35,376 --> 00:32:38,856
Speaker 2: the big title belt, whatever, and so we win the game.

705
00:32:39,176 --> 00:32:42,696
Speaker 2: What was cool was he was so competitive. Yeah, he

706
00:32:42,736 --> 00:32:44,376
Speaker 2: would have killed a player on the other team. It

707
00:32:44,416 --> 00:32:46,616
Speaker 2: was all like celebrities and fake celebrities, right, he would

708
00:32:46,656 --> 00:32:49,016
Speaker 2: have killed them. Like I saw for the first time though,

709
00:32:49,136 --> 00:32:53,136
Speaker 2: that in him. Yeah, the competitiveness that we don't lose, right,

710
00:32:53,216 --> 00:32:56,296
Speaker 2: And the rule was in that game, you played an

711
00:32:56,336 --> 00:32:59,176
Speaker 2: inning and then you moved a position and then you

712
00:32:59,176 --> 00:33:01,336
Speaker 2: set out it. Because there were like thirteen people. After

713
00:33:01,336 --> 00:33:02,976
Speaker 2: the first inning, he told the whole team, Bobby is

714
00:33:03,016 --> 00:33:06,896
Speaker 2: not leaving the mound because I was all over the place.

715
00:33:06,936 --> 00:33:08,456
Speaker 2: I was not all over the place making place and

716
00:33:08,456 --> 00:33:10,256
Speaker 2: he was like, and he set us up and we

717
00:33:10,296 --> 00:33:12,056
Speaker 2: won the game. But I saw I the tiger and

718
00:33:12,096 --> 00:33:13,456
Speaker 2: that dude, and I didn't get to see it when

719
00:33:13,496 --> 00:33:15,896
Speaker 2: I was becoming friends with him, right, I saw I

720
00:33:16,096 --> 00:33:18,616
Speaker 2: the tiger and that guy because it didn't matter if

721
00:33:18,616 --> 00:33:20,056
Speaker 2: it was because when I knew him, he was coaching

722
00:33:20,056 --> 00:33:22,176
Speaker 2: his kids high school football team. It was before he

723
00:33:22,216 --> 00:33:26,536
Speaker 2: went to Jackson State. Now they're rumoring him possibly as

724
00:33:26,576 --> 00:33:29,616
Speaker 2: coach of the Cowboys. God, I hope he gets that job.

725
00:33:30,336 --> 00:33:33,016
Speaker 3: You know. It's interesting because he's got that gravitational pull,

726
00:33:33,696 --> 00:33:36,856
Speaker 3: right that people just respond to. And as you said,

727
00:33:36,936 --> 00:33:39,416
Speaker 3: it's interesting because a lot of people you hate him,

728
00:33:39,496 --> 00:33:42,296
Speaker 3: you love him because a lot of the things that

729
00:33:42,376 --> 00:33:45,656
Speaker 3: he does or puts out on social media or just

730
00:33:45,776 --> 00:33:49,536
Speaker 3: the different areas in which is different than everything that

731
00:33:49,576 --> 00:33:53,176
Speaker 3: they've seen. In a traditional sense, it's intentional why he

732
00:33:53,216 --> 00:33:56,216
Speaker 3: went to Colorado. Colorado won one game prior to him

733
00:33:56,256 --> 00:33:58,936
Speaker 3: getting there. They had nothing. They had nothing, So what

734
00:33:58,976 --> 00:34:00,896
Speaker 3: does he have to do. He has to create buzz.

735
00:34:00,936 --> 00:34:04,496
Speaker 3: He has to create excitement for the program. So he

736
00:34:04,576 --> 00:34:07,536
Speaker 3: had to go out and be primetime and promote. He's

737
00:34:07,576 --> 00:34:10,576
Speaker 3: promoting Colorado, but he's also had to promote himself a

738
00:34:10,616 --> 00:34:13,696
Speaker 3: little bit because that's what brought the notoriety. That's why

739
00:34:13,776 --> 00:34:16,616
Speaker 3: in his first year, in the second game game days there,

740
00:34:16,656 --> 00:34:20,136
Speaker 3: in the third game game days there, that everybody was excited.

741
00:34:20,776 --> 00:34:25,616
Speaker 3: And so he understands the dynamics of what culture is

742
00:34:26,096 --> 00:34:28,576
Speaker 3: and how to bring attention back to his team. Now,

743
00:34:29,016 --> 00:34:31,416
Speaker 3: it'll be interesting because you look at one of the

744
00:34:31,496 --> 00:34:35,536
Speaker 3: most story franchises in all of NFL history and the

745
00:34:35,616 --> 00:34:38,816
Speaker 3: dynamics of the power struggle there with Jerry Jones and

746
00:34:38,856 --> 00:34:42,176
Speaker 3: how that all works. But I think he clearly understands

747
00:34:42,216 --> 00:34:47,016
Speaker 3: that he played for Jerry Jones, and I would I

748
00:34:47,016 --> 00:34:51,216
Speaker 3: think it would be fascinating if he went to the Cowboys,

749
00:34:51,256 --> 00:34:55,016
Speaker 3: because let's be honest, they don't lack talent. You need

750
00:34:55,056 --> 00:34:57,896
Speaker 3: pieces here and there. But when you have Micah Parsons

751
00:34:57,936 --> 00:35:00,056
Speaker 3: and you have Dak Prescott and you have Ceedee Lamb,

752
00:35:00,056 --> 00:35:02,336
Speaker 3: a true number one that you can go out and

753
00:35:02,376 --> 00:35:05,936
Speaker 3: compete on Sundays immediately. He's one of of those guys

754
00:35:05,976 --> 00:35:09,056
Speaker 3: also that he'll put together a great staff. He's got

755
00:35:09,056 --> 00:35:12,936
Speaker 3: relationships with everybody, and as you said, with his personality

756
00:35:12,976 --> 00:35:14,736
Speaker 3: and who he is as a person, if you've ever

757
00:35:14,816 --> 00:35:17,976
Speaker 3: met him on a different level outside of what you

758
00:35:18,176 --> 00:35:22,016
Speaker 3: just see in the public eye, you love the guy

759
00:35:22,816 --> 00:35:24,656
Speaker 3: and want to be with him and want to be

760
00:35:24,696 --> 00:35:26,536
Speaker 3: on a staff and want to have success for him.

761
00:35:26,536 --> 00:35:28,296
Speaker 3: So he'll be able to put together a great staff.

762
00:35:28,656 --> 00:35:31,896
Speaker 3: I think it would be fun to watch him as

763
00:35:32,256 --> 00:35:37,016
Speaker 3: back on the Dallas Cowboys sideline and with that dynamic. Now,

764
00:35:37,336 --> 00:35:41,696
Speaker 3: whether or not it works, it's complicated and it's difficult

765
00:35:41,736 --> 00:35:43,656
Speaker 3: to win in the NFL. We all know that, but

766
00:35:43,776 --> 00:35:47,296
Speaker 3: that franchise, being who it is and the players that

767
00:35:47,336 --> 00:35:51,096
Speaker 3: they have, could be really fun for just the league

768
00:35:51,096 --> 00:35:52,016
Speaker 3: in general next year.

769
00:35:52,656 --> 00:35:54,536
Speaker 2: If Dion were to come on, and we're recording this

770
00:35:54,776 --> 00:35:57,056
Speaker 2: late Wednesdays or late Tuesdays, so this will be Updnesday.

771
00:35:57,056 --> 00:35:58,336
Speaker 2: If something happens and he's not the coach in the

772
00:35:58,336 --> 00:35:59,136
Speaker 2: next ten hours.

773
00:35:59,296 --> 00:35:59,856
Speaker 3: That's on us.

774
00:36:00,136 --> 00:36:02,896
Speaker 2: But there would have to be an understanding of that.

775
00:36:03,176 --> 00:36:05,815
Speaker 2: Jerry Jones has to release that a bit right down

776
00:36:05,896 --> 00:36:08,496
Speaker 2: would not take that job otherwise, well.

777
00:36:08,736 --> 00:36:11,496
Speaker 3: I think when you look at that organization, when you

778
00:36:11,496 --> 00:36:13,376
Speaker 3: look at Jerry Jones, at some point, you have to

779
00:36:13,496 --> 00:36:16,816
Speaker 3: evaluate yourself and say, we haven't won a super Bowl

780
00:36:16,896 --> 00:36:20,296
Speaker 3: since the ninety six when I was growing up and

781
00:36:20,336 --> 00:36:22,496
Speaker 3: I loved watching the Super Bowl. But you have to

782
00:36:22,616 --> 00:36:26,056
Speaker 3: empower your head coach to be seen as the figurehead

783
00:36:26,096 --> 00:36:28,976
Speaker 3: that guys can't step over that boundary and go over

784
00:36:29,016 --> 00:36:32,856
Speaker 3: your head. He has to be able to control the team.

785
00:36:33,136 --> 00:36:35,376
Speaker 3: And I was there for two seasons and I saw

786
00:36:35,376 --> 00:36:39,376
Speaker 3: it firsthand. It's difficult. When you come into the locker

787
00:36:39,456 --> 00:36:41,456
Speaker 3: room after a game and the first person that talks

788
00:36:41,496 --> 00:36:44,736
Speaker 3: to you is Jerry Jones. That's a different dynamic that

789
00:36:44,816 --> 00:36:48,296
Speaker 3: I'd never seen anywhere else. It's not the head coach

790
00:36:48,736 --> 00:36:51,616
Speaker 3: who's the guy that's leading your team from inside out.

791
00:36:52,176 --> 00:36:55,976
Speaker 3: It's Jerry Jones because it's his team and everybody understands that.

792
00:36:56,416 --> 00:36:58,216
Speaker 3: But there's got to be some kind of give and

793
00:36:58,296 --> 00:37:01,656
Speaker 3: take at some point for whoever comes on board next,

794
00:37:02,096 --> 00:37:05,936
Speaker 3: because otherwise it'll be another hit and miss and a

795
00:37:05,976 --> 00:37:09,176
Speaker 3: few years later we need to make a change because

796
00:37:09,736 --> 00:37:12,736
Speaker 3: we're gonna run it my way or the highway. Well,

797
00:37:13,016 --> 00:37:15,136
Speaker 3: it just doesn't work like that, and it hasn't over

798
00:37:15,176 --> 00:37:17,016
Speaker 3: and over and over and over and over again.

799
00:37:17,056 --> 00:37:20,256
Speaker 2: With some really qualified guys, right. I think Robert draft

800
00:37:20,336 --> 00:37:20,776
Speaker 2: same way.

801
00:37:21,176 --> 00:37:23,496
Speaker 3: Oh don't. I mean, these guys are getting.

802
00:37:23,176 --> 00:37:25,776
Speaker 2: Older, and if you get to your eighties and you're

803
00:37:25,816 --> 00:37:28,976
Speaker 2: like itching for another one, right, sometimes you just gotta

804
00:37:29,056 --> 00:37:29,856
Speaker 2: do stuff different.

805
00:37:30,016 --> 00:37:33,176
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that's why Craft when they evaluate

806
00:37:33,256 --> 00:37:37,496
Speaker 3: this season. And I like Gerard Mayo. I think he's

807
00:37:37,536 --> 00:37:39,736
Speaker 3: a great guy. He kind of got a raw deal.

808
00:37:39,976 --> 00:37:43,216
Speaker 3: He came into this thing without the number four draft pick,

809
00:37:43,256 --> 00:37:46,616
Speaker 3: coming up in a franchise quarterback and one hundred and thirty.

810
00:37:46,856 --> 00:37:49,176
Speaker 3: Mike Rabel's in a much better position right now to

811
00:37:49,216 --> 00:37:52,256
Speaker 3: succeed than what he was. But when he looked at

812
00:37:52,296 --> 00:37:55,296
Speaker 3: it and he said, as you're saying, that clock's ticking.

813
00:37:55,496 --> 00:37:58,296
Speaker 3: And he'd been through the glory years, the first dynasty,

814
00:37:58,376 --> 00:37:59,456
Speaker 3: the second dynasty.

815
00:37:59,216 --> 00:38:00,776
Speaker 2: With Jerry Though it's funny because he had the glory

816
00:38:00,816 --> 00:38:02,376
Speaker 2: years too, not Laurier's dynasty.

817
00:38:02,416 --> 00:38:04,336
Speaker 3: But they both had that, right, they both had that.

818
00:38:04,416 --> 00:38:07,816
Speaker 3: But Jerry's is an nineties Yeah, that's I mean, Craft

819
00:38:07,896 --> 00:38:10,776
Speaker 3: is coming off his latest super Bowl is what twenty nineteen,

820
00:38:11,416 --> 00:38:13,696
Speaker 3: So then you lose your franchise quarterback and things have

821
00:38:13,776 --> 00:38:17,456
Speaker 3: gone downhill for that organization since. And I think the

822
00:38:17,496 --> 00:38:20,696
Speaker 3: sense of urgency just to make that change now, as

823
00:38:20,696 --> 00:38:21,976
Speaker 3: hard as it is, because I know he had a

824
00:38:22,016 --> 00:38:25,376
Speaker 3: great relationship with Mayo, he said, look, this is the

825
00:38:25,416 --> 00:38:27,736
Speaker 3: time to jump on it. We've got our guy Mike

826
00:38:27,816 --> 00:38:30,536
Speaker 3: Rabel sitting here Hall of Famer and our Patriots Hall

827
00:38:30,576 --> 00:38:32,776
Speaker 3: of Fame that can come in study the ship and

828
00:38:32,816 --> 00:38:36,576
Speaker 3: maybe give us another opportunity when I'm still here to

829
00:38:36,776 --> 00:38:37,496
Speaker 3: experience it.

830
00:38:38,376 --> 00:38:42,096
Speaker 2: I am very biased towards Deon Sanders because I love

831
00:38:42,136 --> 00:38:44,816
Speaker 2: him as a person, but also when looking at his

832
00:38:44,936 --> 00:38:49,536
Speaker 2: record coaching, meaning he's been at first of all, he's

833
00:38:49,536 --> 00:38:52,616
Speaker 2: played at a very high level, and then he's also

834
00:38:52,736 --> 00:38:55,536
Speaker 2: coached at all the levels. Right, He's coached high school,

835
00:38:55,776 --> 00:39:01,296
Speaker 2: he's coached college, HBCU, he's coached Colorado, and he's done

836
00:39:01,336 --> 00:39:05,616
Speaker 2: well at every stop, even if it doesn't work, even

837
00:39:05,656 --> 00:39:11,736
Speaker 2: if it went miserably, I think this is the opportunity

838
00:39:11,856 --> 00:39:14,776
Speaker 2: to take a humongous flyer, even though it's not that

839
00:39:14,896 --> 00:39:16,736
Speaker 2: much of a flyer. If he didn't have that big

840
00:39:16,776 --> 00:39:19,216
Speaker 2: of a personality, I don't think people would be like,

841
00:39:19,376 --> 00:39:21,336
Speaker 2: I don't know, this sounds crazy. If you would have

842
00:39:21,376 --> 00:39:23,536
Speaker 2: been like, here's a person and just hear his stats.

843
00:39:23,696 --> 00:39:26,176
Speaker 2: First of all, here's playing stats, and here's his coaching stats,

844
00:39:26,216 --> 00:39:28,896
Speaker 2: and here's where he's been across, you would go this

845
00:39:28,976 --> 00:39:33,616
Speaker 2: seems like not that outlandish of an idea. This seems

846
00:39:33,616 --> 00:39:35,416
Speaker 2: like a coach that's won at every level and we

847
00:39:35,456 --> 00:39:38,296
Speaker 2: feel good about it. But because he's such a big personality,

848
00:39:38,456 --> 00:39:40,416
Speaker 2: even if it goes horribly, I think it's the right decision.

849
00:39:40,616 --> 00:39:42,816
Speaker 2: Because you want things to change, you got to do

850
00:39:42,896 --> 00:39:45,256
Speaker 2: things different, and I think that would be a deon

851
00:39:45,296 --> 00:39:46,776
Speaker 2: Sanders higher right.

852
00:39:47,056 --> 00:39:48,776
Speaker 3: The other thing that I'd push back on a little

853
00:39:48,776 --> 00:39:52,456
Speaker 3: bit is Dion himself and some of the antics and

854
00:39:52,496 --> 00:39:54,416
Speaker 3: some of the things that he does in the sermons

855
00:39:54,416 --> 00:39:57,296
Speaker 3: that he delivers to the team. The dynamics of a

856
00:39:57,296 --> 00:39:59,736
Speaker 3: professional locker room are a little bit different. These are

857
00:39:59,736 --> 00:40:04,456
Speaker 3: grown men, people that have kids and wives and big personalities,

858
00:40:04,456 --> 00:40:07,736
Speaker 3: big egos as well. The dominant nature in which he

859
00:40:07,776 --> 00:40:11,256
Speaker 3: controls a locker room in college is going to be

860
00:40:11,296 --> 00:40:15,496
Speaker 3: much different than I believe the interactions in the dominant

861
00:40:15,576 --> 00:40:18,856
Speaker 3: nature in which he has over the players. And now

862
00:40:19,096 --> 00:40:21,576
Speaker 3: it's about messaging, it's about mindset, but there are going

863
00:40:21,656 --> 00:40:24,976
Speaker 3: to be subtle things that he probably clearly understands that

864
00:40:25,096 --> 00:40:27,536
Speaker 3: he's going to have to change about how he approaches

865
00:40:27,896 --> 00:40:31,336
Speaker 3: maybe the day to day versus what he's done at Colorado,

866
00:40:32,136 --> 00:40:34,936
Speaker 3: in the hype machine that he's created behind Colorado.

867
00:40:34,976 --> 00:40:37,616
Speaker 2: And what I would say to that is different than

868
00:40:37,696 --> 00:40:40,056
Speaker 2: like a Jim Tressel going to coach an NFL team,

869
00:40:40,056 --> 00:40:43,456
Speaker 2: where that will absolutely be something that he has to know,

870
00:40:43,696 --> 00:40:46,616
Speaker 2: acknowledge and learn from. Deanna has been in those locker

871
00:40:46,696 --> 00:40:48,656
Speaker 2: rooms forever and know, like you said.

872
00:40:48,576 --> 00:40:49,376
Speaker 3: Knows that dynamic.

873
00:40:50,336 --> 00:40:52,296
Speaker 2: I don't think he would go in even talking to

874
00:40:52,336 --> 00:40:53,736
Speaker 2: the players the same way he would talk to a

875
00:40:53,816 --> 00:40:56,576
Speaker 2: nineteen year old, because he was also that thirty one

876
00:40:56,656 --> 00:40:57,136
Speaker 2: year old.

877
00:40:57,736 --> 00:41:00,136
Speaker 3: So I'm excited for I'm not so much cowboys fan.

878
00:41:00,176 --> 00:41:02,416
Speaker 2: All my friends are great cowboys that they love the Cowboys,

879
00:41:03,616 --> 00:41:05,016
Speaker 2: But I hope he gets the job.

880
00:41:05,776 --> 00:41:07,416
Speaker 3: If not, like, what the crap are they going to do?

881
00:41:07,896 --> 00:41:10,176
Speaker 3: I have no idea how many want to be if

882
00:41:10,176 --> 00:41:14,976
Speaker 3: it were Sark, that could be right down the road.

883
00:41:15,216 --> 00:41:17,296
Speaker 2: I don't want to pay relocation fees, so.

884
00:41:17,736 --> 00:41:19,616
Speaker 3: Just just make a quick drive over here. We're gonna

885
00:41:19,736 --> 00:41:21,896
Speaker 3: not gonna send a plane. Why would we do that? Exactly?

886
00:41:22,336 --> 00:41:25,456
Speaker 2: Okay, coming up in wrap reports back in a second.

887
00:41:41,256 --> 00:41:43,696
Speaker 2: As far as insiders go, this guy's the best. You

888
00:41:43,696 --> 00:41:46,256
Speaker 2: can see him on NFL network to follow him at.

889
00:41:46,136 --> 00:41:48,576
Speaker 3: Rap sheet R A P S H E e. T.

890
00:41:49,256 --> 00:41:52,736
Speaker 2: He is the guy on the phone, He is the

891
00:41:52,776 --> 00:41:54,016
Speaker 2: guy that knows here.

892
00:41:54,016 --> 00:41:58,896
Speaker 3: He is in rappaport he And there's a lot of

893
00:41:58,936 --> 00:42:01,536
Speaker 3: stuff going on, obviously with the coaching searches right now.

894
00:42:01,656 --> 00:42:04,976
Speaker 3: Mike Rabel gets hired by the Patriots, Mike McCarthy out

895
00:42:05,016 --> 00:42:08,016
Speaker 3: in d We hear a lot of rumors about Tomlin

896
00:42:08,096 --> 00:42:11,136
Speaker 3: down with the Steelers. What are you hearing with those organizations?

897
00:42:11,536 --> 00:42:13,176
Speaker 3: And what's the latest right now?

898
00:42:14,096 --> 00:42:16,296
Speaker 5: Okay, we'll start with Mike Tomlin. I don't get the

899
00:42:16,296 --> 00:42:18,776
Speaker 5: sense he's going anywhere. The coaching world can be crazy.

900
00:42:19,176 --> 00:42:23,096
Speaker 5: He was asked about this on Tuesday. Basically, so don't

901
00:42:23,096 --> 00:42:26,416
Speaker 5: waste your time, you know, be sort of like picking

902
00:42:26,416 --> 00:42:29,376
Speaker 5: against the Chiefs and the playoffs, like until something actually

903
00:42:29,416 --> 00:42:32,096
Speaker 5: happens with Mike Tomlin. I will choose to be in

904
00:42:32,136 --> 00:42:35,816
Speaker 5: the belief that the Steelers are unbelievably loyal, know they

905
00:42:35,856 --> 00:42:38,736
Speaker 5: have a great coach. Tomlin is unbelievably loyal, knows he

906
00:42:38,776 --> 00:42:42,056
Speaker 5: has a great organization, and I imagine they will stay together.

907
00:42:43,816 --> 00:42:48,056
Speaker 5: The Mike rabel one is really really interesting to me.

908
00:42:48,456 --> 00:42:50,696
Speaker 5: It's the only reason you move on from Droyd Maale.

909
00:42:50,696 --> 00:42:55,016
Speaker 5: Obviously the season was bad, it was nothing that anybody

910
00:42:55,376 --> 00:42:58,296
Speaker 5: in New England wanted. But you know, you bring in

911
00:42:58,496 --> 00:43:00,256
Speaker 5: a young coach who you believe is going to be

912
00:43:00,296 --> 00:43:02,855
Speaker 5: a leader, to give him only one year. It didn't

913
00:43:02,856 --> 00:43:05,096
Speaker 5: make a lot of sense to me unless you had

914
00:43:05,096 --> 00:43:08,536
Speaker 5: a sure fire, better option who you know is going

915
00:43:08,576 --> 00:43:12,376
Speaker 5: to hit the ground running. Mike vrabel Is. He is

916
00:43:12,416 --> 00:43:16,776
Speaker 5: a great coach. He is not for everyone. He will

917
00:43:17,976 --> 00:43:21,056
Speaker 5: be hard on a lot of people there. I think

918
00:43:21,056 --> 00:43:24,256
Speaker 5: he is going to be extremely demanding and he will

919
00:43:24,296 --> 00:43:28,496
Speaker 5: get what he wants eventually, as he showed in Tennessee.

920
00:43:28,936 --> 00:43:30,456
Speaker 5: I think they're gonna win, and I think they're gonna

921
00:43:30,456 --> 00:43:32,696
Speaker 5: win a lot. They got a good quarterback and I

922
00:43:32,736 --> 00:43:35,456
Speaker 5: think he's gonna do a really good job of building

923
00:43:35,576 --> 00:43:38,016
Speaker 5: up the middle class of that team and getting everyone

924
00:43:38,056 --> 00:43:40,815
Speaker 5: to be like a little bit better, which is really

925
00:43:40,896 --> 00:43:42,776
Speaker 5: the thing he did best in Tennessee.

926
00:43:42,736 --> 00:43:42,936
Speaker 3: You know.

927
00:43:42,976 --> 00:43:46,136
Speaker 5: And then the Dallas thing. You know, I kind of

928
00:43:46,136 --> 00:43:49,496
Speaker 5: went about this believing that Mike McCarthy would be back.

929
00:43:49,576 --> 00:43:51,936
Speaker 5: That's what sort of made sense. I know, all parties

930
00:43:52,016 --> 00:43:55,815
Speaker 5: kind of thought they would be back. The Cowboys tried

931
00:43:55,816 --> 00:43:58,696
Speaker 5: to bring him back in a shorter deal. He wanted

932
00:43:58,696 --> 00:44:02,696
Speaker 5: some security, but the reality is, like if Dallas wasn't

933
00:44:02,736 --> 00:44:06,136
Speaker 5: sure long term about him and he wanted a little

934
00:44:06,176 --> 00:44:09,736
Speaker 5: more than they're willing to give, Like what are we doing?

935
00:44:10,296 --> 00:44:12,616
Speaker 5: You know, Like what it's like if you're dating someone

936
00:44:12,616 --> 00:44:14,656
Speaker 5: and you're like not sure whether or not to move in,

937
00:44:14,736 --> 00:44:17,096
Speaker 5: Like you should probably not be dating that person, right,

938
00:44:17,176 --> 00:44:19,936
Speaker 5: Like this shouldn't be a question. So I thought they

939
00:44:19,936 --> 00:44:22,576
Speaker 5: did the right thing in moving on. I'm curious to

940
00:44:22,576 --> 00:44:24,096
Speaker 5: see what happens next for all parties.

941
00:44:24,416 --> 00:44:29,376
Speaker 3: Do the Bears and the Jets now, Well, that's.

942
00:44:29,216 --> 00:44:31,815
Speaker 5: A little more challenging because they've all interviewed a lot

943
00:44:31,816 --> 00:44:34,656
Speaker 5: of people, and so people have been asking me for

944
00:44:34,696 --> 00:44:37,216
Speaker 5: the last week and a half, like, you know, who

945
00:44:37,216 --> 00:44:38,976
Speaker 5: do you see as the front runner for the Jets?

946
00:44:39,016 --> 00:44:42,576
Speaker 5: And it's like, well, when you interview fifteen people, you know,

947
00:44:43,216 --> 00:44:46,376
Speaker 5: if you have a front runner, then like why are

948
00:44:46,416 --> 00:44:47,736
Speaker 5: you interviewing all these people?

949
00:44:47,936 --> 00:44:48,096
Speaker 3: Right?

950
00:44:48,256 --> 00:44:50,856
Speaker 5: So it's a pretty open search. I mean there's a

951
00:44:50,856 --> 00:44:54,256
Speaker 5: couple of candidates I think have maybe better chances than others.

952
00:44:54,296 --> 00:44:57,136
Speaker 5: Like I'd say Aaron Glenn and Arthur Smith both have

953
00:44:57,136 --> 00:44:59,016
Speaker 5: a really good chance in New York for instance, to

954
00:44:59,056 --> 00:45:02,496
Speaker 5: name a couple, I think Cliff Kingsbury has a good

955
00:45:02,576 --> 00:45:05,896
Speaker 5: chance in Chicago. I think Mike McCarthy has good chance

956
00:45:05,936 --> 00:45:10,096
Speaker 5: in Chicago. Kind of a wild car to be Mike Kafka.

957
00:45:11,136 --> 00:45:14,656
Speaker 5: It's just, you know, it's so wide open and expansive,

958
00:45:14,736 --> 00:45:18,696
Speaker 5: it's tough to nail down. You know one favorite there?

959
00:45:19,176 --> 00:45:21,776
Speaker 3: Do you of those organizations that you just mentioned, and

960
00:45:21,776 --> 00:45:24,536
Speaker 3: then even throw in Jacksonville, what do you think is

961
00:45:24,536 --> 00:45:28,256
Speaker 3: the most attractive job in your opinion for any of

962
00:45:28,296 --> 00:45:30,856
Speaker 3: these head coaches that are coming out, because obviously the

963
00:45:30,936 --> 00:45:32,936
Speaker 3: Jets they're they're are going to just sit there and

964
00:45:33,056 --> 00:45:35,216
Speaker 3: you don't know if Aaron Rodgers is coming back. The

965
00:45:35,296 --> 00:45:38,576
Speaker 3: pieces in Chicago are very attractive. Jacksonville as well, with

966
00:45:38,616 --> 00:45:41,816
Speaker 3: their team, the youth that they have and a quarterback

967
00:45:41,856 --> 00:45:45,736
Speaker 3: that obviously has had really high highs, but really low

968
00:45:45,936 --> 00:45:49,936
Speaker 3: a lot of lows as well.

969
00:45:48,496 --> 00:45:51,776
Speaker 5: Well, I would say to me, will include the Patriots

970
00:45:51,776 --> 00:45:54,336
Speaker 5: in that even though it's already been filled. The only

971
00:45:54,376 --> 00:45:56,616
Speaker 5: thing you're really looking for, if if you're a coach

972
00:45:56,656 --> 00:45:59,616
Speaker 5: taking over for taking over a job, is can you win?

973
00:46:00,096 --> 00:46:03,496
Speaker 5: Like can you win? What's the infrastructure? Like what are

974
00:46:03,536 --> 00:46:08,256
Speaker 5: you inheriting? Can you win? And I think most times

975
00:46:09,056 --> 00:46:13,336
Speaker 5: during this time of year, you're kind of like, uh, well, yeah,

976
00:46:13,536 --> 00:46:15,576
Speaker 5: like I do want a job, but they don't have

977
00:46:15,616 --> 00:46:19,056
Speaker 5: a quarterback, or they're in bad salary cap space, or

978
00:46:19,096 --> 00:46:22,656
Speaker 5: like they got to rebuild. Like there's actually a surprising

979
00:46:22,736 --> 00:46:25,496
Speaker 5: number of places this year where you could go in

980
00:46:25,536 --> 00:46:29,816
Speaker 5: and win, Like Chicago has a quarterback, Like do they

981
00:46:29,816 --> 00:46:35,016
Speaker 5: need some work? Yeah they do, but they got a guy. Jacksonville,

982
00:46:35,056 --> 00:46:37,176
Speaker 5: I believe has a guy. Is Trevor Lawrence going to

983
00:46:37,176 --> 00:46:42,296
Speaker 5: be Patrick Mahomes? Probably not, but you know, could he

984
00:46:42,376 --> 00:46:44,656
Speaker 5: be starting for a playoff team with some better coaching

985
00:46:44,736 --> 00:46:48,216
Speaker 5: like he could and he has been like he has.

986
00:46:48,216 --> 00:46:51,016
Speaker 3: Right and divisionally right, it's probably when you look at

987
00:46:51,096 --> 00:46:53,576
Speaker 3: Jacksonville and the division that they're in, they can go

988
00:46:53,576 --> 00:46:54,016
Speaker 3: in and win.

989
00:46:54,496 --> 00:46:58,016
Speaker 5: Now, well yeah, and like if you look at the roster, like,

990
00:46:58,056 --> 00:47:01,176
Speaker 5: they got some pieces. They got three good receivers, they

991
00:47:01,216 --> 00:47:03,296
Speaker 5: got a good tight end, they got a good young

992
00:47:03,376 --> 00:47:06,776
Speaker 5: offensive line at tatt left tackle, who's they got a

993
00:47:06,776 --> 00:47:09,056
Speaker 5: couple of really good pieces off the edge and defense,

994
00:47:09,176 --> 00:47:10,696
Speaker 5: they got a good back end. They have a highly

995
00:47:10,736 --> 00:47:13,136
Speaker 5: paid corner. They have a really good linebacker who's the

996
00:47:13,136 --> 00:47:16,456
Speaker 5: first round pick. I mean, that's a lot of good players, right,

997
00:47:16,976 --> 00:47:19,456
Speaker 5: so and then you know so, I think those are

998
00:47:19,496 --> 00:47:22,456
Speaker 5: some of the better ones, and a surprising number at Dallas.

999
00:47:22,496 --> 00:47:25,936
Speaker 5: It's like if you're the Dallas Cowboys, said coach, it's

1000
00:47:25,976 --> 00:47:29,616
Speaker 5: a lot okay, Like I can't even It's like almost

1001
00:47:29,616 --> 00:47:33,896
Speaker 5: nothing else in sports where you're the head coach slash spokesman,

1002
00:47:34,136 --> 00:47:39,376
Speaker 5: slash Carnival Barker slash you know, frontman, like all of

1003
00:47:39,376 --> 00:47:44,136
Speaker 5: the things. Just it's like it's the most all encompassing

1004
00:47:44,456 --> 00:47:46,776
Speaker 5: coach job in sports. I can't compare it to anything else.

1005
00:47:47,576 --> 00:47:51,336
Speaker 5: But they got Dak Prescott, they got a good offensive

1006
00:47:51,376 --> 00:47:55,376
Speaker 5: line with some good young pieces. They got some great receivers.

1007
00:47:55,736 --> 00:47:59,456
Speaker 5: They got Micah Parsons and a couple all pro corners. Like,

1008
00:48:00,256 --> 00:48:03,016
Speaker 5: they got some dudes, So you can win there. The

1009
00:48:03,456 --> 00:48:06,736
Speaker 5: toughest one for me, which they eventually end up being.

1010
00:48:06,776 --> 00:48:11,416
Speaker 5: Be Ben Johnson's shop is Las Vegas, but they have

1011
00:48:11,496 --> 00:48:15,496
Speaker 5: Tom Brady and that in itself for people who like

1012
00:48:15,576 --> 00:48:19,136
Speaker 5: to be associated with people who are awesome, it's a

1013
00:48:19,176 --> 00:48:20,496
Speaker 5: pretty interesting place as well.

1014
00:48:21,056 --> 00:48:21,256
Speaker 3: Well.

1015
00:48:21,296 --> 00:48:24,736
Speaker 2: The Vikings lost to the Rams. Have any say on

1016
00:48:24,776 --> 00:48:26,696
Speaker 2: what the Vikings do with Sam Donald or.

1017
00:48:26,656 --> 00:48:27,696
Speaker 3: Did they already know?

1018
00:48:29,816 --> 00:48:37,336
Speaker 5: You know, I would say the Lions game was tough,

1019
00:48:38,496 --> 00:48:40,816
Speaker 5: and if you were wondering whether or not that was

1020
00:48:41,136 --> 00:48:45,176
Speaker 5: an anomaly, Donald followed it up with the playoff game

1021
00:48:45,696 --> 00:48:49,376
Speaker 5: last night, so it's like that game alone wasn't anything

1022
00:48:49,416 --> 00:48:52,496
Speaker 5: but those two games and then it's almost like the

1023
00:48:52,536 --> 00:48:55,816
Speaker 5: Sam Donald detractor spent the whole season waiting for that,

1024
00:48:56,536 --> 00:48:58,536
Speaker 5: being like, all right, well, eventually he's going to turn

1025
00:48:58,616 --> 00:49:01,256
Speaker 5: into Sam Donald, and then when he did, it's like

1026
00:49:01,296 --> 00:49:03,176
Speaker 5: every Jets fan in the world text bank Yep, I've

1027
00:49:03,216 --> 00:49:05,536
Speaker 5: seen that guy before, and I'm like, I get it,

1028
00:49:05,616 --> 00:49:09,656
Speaker 5: Like everyone wants to say, I told you so. I

1029
00:49:09,736 --> 00:49:11,776
Speaker 5: think a long run in the playoffs would have really

1030
00:49:11,776 --> 00:49:14,536
Speaker 5: helped him. I don't think it means he's not going

1031
00:49:14,576 --> 00:49:16,376
Speaker 5: to be able to get a starting job next year,

1032
00:49:16,496 --> 00:49:19,336
Speaker 5: but it does alter the landscape a little bit like,

1033
00:49:19,376 --> 00:49:23,376
Speaker 5: if you're Minnesota, are you a little, little, little little

1034
00:49:23,456 --> 00:49:25,896
Speaker 5: less likely to give him a long term deal? Maybe

1035
00:49:25,936 --> 00:49:28,496
Speaker 5: you want to give him the franchise tag instead, or

1036
00:49:28,496 --> 00:49:30,336
Speaker 5: maybe you want to say, you know what, I've seen

1037
00:49:30,376 --> 00:49:33,096
Speaker 5: the good, I've seen the bad. It's just not enough

1038
00:49:33,096 --> 00:49:35,336
Speaker 5: and we got a young guy we're just going to roll.

1039
00:49:37,176 --> 00:49:40,416
Speaker 5: I think it probably at the very least made them

1040
00:49:40,456 --> 00:49:44,496
Speaker 5: think about, all right, like what really are our options,

1041
00:49:45,016 --> 00:49:48,456
Speaker 5: rather than like, this is our franchise quarterback, let's move.

1042
00:49:48,696 --> 00:49:50,776
Speaker 3: Don't you think It's going to be really complicated though,

1043
00:49:50,936 --> 00:49:53,696
Speaker 3: like why not franchise him for a year? Considering JJ

1044
00:49:53,776 --> 00:49:56,016
Speaker 3: McCarthy hasn't taken a snap, he's been hurt all year?

1045
00:49:56,376 --> 00:49:58,336
Speaker 3: How long has Daniel Jones there? Did he just sign

1046
00:49:58,456 --> 00:50:01,136
Speaker 3: for the rest of this season or did he see

1047
00:50:01,336 --> 00:50:04,056
Speaker 3: just the year? So they they potentially could bring him back,

1048
00:50:04,096 --> 00:50:06,296
Speaker 3: but they'd have to give him a deal. Well, but

1049
00:50:06,536 --> 00:50:09,496
Speaker 3: I just think it's a very complicated situation because if

1050
00:50:09,536 --> 00:50:12,136
Speaker 3: you don't bring back Sam Donald as a franchise guy,

1051
00:50:12,536 --> 00:50:15,696
Speaker 3: then you're basically rolling the dice with a guy JJ

1052
00:50:15,816 --> 00:50:17,016
Speaker 3: McCarthy that's unproven.

1053
00:50:18,576 --> 00:50:21,016
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I would say you can't roll the dice

1054
00:50:21,256 --> 00:50:25,096
Speaker 5: right like. And I'm not saying here's what I would

1055
00:50:25,136 --> 00:50:29,176
Speaker 5: say if they decide to not bring back Sam Donald,

1056
00:50:29,216 --> 00:50:31,736
Speaker 5: I mean that, which is a it's a bold decision,

1057
00:50:31,856 --> 00:50:34,096
Speaker 5: and they just made it. They just made it with

1058
00:50:34,176 --> 00:50:38,376
Speaker 5: Kirk Cousins. They said he's good, we want more and

1059
00:50:38,416 --> 00:50:41,016
Speaker 5: we want to pay less and we're moving on. And

1060
00:50:41,056 --> 00:50:43,296
Speaker 5: they did and they got a great performance most of

1061
00:50:43,336 --> 00:50:45,536
Speaker 5: the season from Sam Donald. And I think and obviously

1062
00:50:45,536 --> 00:50:48,216
Speaker 5: what Cousins has fallen off the cliff, so I think

1063
00:50:48,656 --> 00:50:50,896
Speaker 5: that proved to be the right decision. But I would

1064
00:50:50,896 --> 00:50:56,096
Speaker 5: say this, if they move on from Sam Donald, I

1065
00:50:56,136 --> 00:50:58,656
Speaker 5: don't think it'll be a gamble. To me, it would

1066
00:50:58,736 --> 00:51:02,256
Speaker 5: mean they know, right like, and we've seen it, like

1067
00:51:02,336 --> 00:51:05,296
Speaker 5: we've seen it across the league where guys that players

1068
00:51:06,056 --> 00:51:08,976
Speaker 5: and they say this is a guy like, I don't

1069
00:51:09,016 --> 00:51:11,056
Speaker 5: have any question, Like I remember going to Commander's camp

1070
00:51:11,256 --> 00:51:13,896
Speaker 5: and they were like, yo, like, we got a guy

1071
00:51:14,096 --> 00:51:17,016
Speaker 5: like this is we got a guy usually, you know.

1072
00:51:17,216 --> 00:51:20,056
Speaker 5: And so if the Vikings move on from Donald, I

1073
00:51:20,096 --> 00:51:22,976
Speaker 5: think will probably know that they got a guy in

1074
00:51:23,056 --> 00:51:24,896
Speaker 5: JJ McCarthy and they've already seen it.

1075
00:51:25,656 --> 00:51:28,856
Speaker 2: Talk about Kirk Cousins, what's he gonna do was he hurt? Like,

1076
00:51:28,896 --> 00:51:32,576
Speaker 2: do team still see that there's a more of a

1077
00:51:32,576 --> 00:51:34,296
Speaker 2: ceiling after his Achilles injury.

1078
00:51:36,456 --> 00:51:40,256
Speaker 5: You know, the most interesting thing that we'll see or

1079
00:51:40,376 --> 00:51:44,496
Speaker 5: talk about with Kirk Cousins happened with Aaron Rodgers similar

1080
00:51:44,536 --> 00:51:50,855
Speaker 5: timeframe Rogers, you know, tours Achilles was kind of most

1081
00:51:50,896 --> 00:51:52,936
Speaker 5: of the year, also is banged up in his lower half,

1082
00:51:52,936 --> 00:51:56,576
Speaker 5: had a knee, had a hamstring, had some other stuff.

1083
00:51:57,016 --> 00:51:58,736
Speaker 5: And then there were pockets late in the year where

1084
00:51:58,776 --> 00:52:00,656
Speaker 5: he really looked like the Aaron Rodgers of old, the

1085
00:52:00,736 --> 00:52:03,896
Speaker 5: second year after the Achilles, And I keep thinking about

1086
00:52:03,936 --> 00:52:07,176
Speaker 5: that because it's all projection. Nobody knows. You don't know

1087
00:52:07,176 --> 00:52:08,696
Speaker 5: how Kirk Cousins are going to play, But if you

1088
00:52:08,736 --> 00:52:11,656
Speaker 5: want to project it out, you could say second year

1089
00:52:11,696 --> 00:52:15,936
Speaker 5: back from an Achilles, Aaron Rodgers somewhat similar age. Second

1090
00:52:16,016 --> 00:52:18,936
Speaker 5: half of the year looked a lot better. And maybe

1091
00:52:19,296 --> 00:52:23,416
Speaker 5: Kirk Cousins come back from an achilles, second year back similar age,

1092
00:52:23,816 --> 00:52:27,056
Speaker 5: maybe he's gonna look better. If it's gonna be what

1093
00:52:27,096 --> 00:52:29,896
Speaker 5: it was with the Falcons this year, the last four

1094
00:52:29,976 --> 00:52:32,815
Speaker 5: or five games, then I don't know that he gets

1095
00:52:32,856 --> 00:52:34,776
Speaker 5: a job if it's going to be like it was

1096
00:52:34,816 --> 00:52:39,336
Speaker 5: the first six games or whatever. Then I think he'll

1097
00:52:39,456 --> 00:52:42,176
Speaker 5: end up somewhere that doesn't want to spend a lot

1098
00:52:42,216 --> 00:52:46,136
Speaker 5: of money but wants a viable starter, because remember, if

1099
00:52:46,176 --> 00:52:49,416
Speaker 5: they cut him, he's going to play for the minimum.

1100
00:52:50,136 --> 00:52:53,176
Speaker 5: No one is going to eclipse what the Falcons were

1101
00:52:53,176 --> 00:52:55,656
Speaker 5: paying him. His salary is going to be the minimum.

1102
00:52:55,656 --> 00:52:58,416
Speaker 5: It is going to be Russell Wilson. So he's going

1103
00:52:58,456 --> 00:53:01,656
Speaker 5: to be an attractive quarterback signing.

1104
00:53:01,376 --> 00:53:05,856
Speaker 3: For some Tennessee Titans. A bet watch is this between

1105
00:53:06,016 --> 00:53:07,896
Speaker 3: the Baltimore Ratens Tennessee Titans.

1106
00:53:07,936 --> 00:53:10,616
Speaker 5: Actually, yeah, makes sense. They're gonna take a quarterback number one.

1107
00:53:10,816 --> 00:53:13,816
Speaker 5: They need a placeholder if he's your backup, like who cares?

1108
00:53:13,816 --> 00:53:16,096
Speaker 5: Who paying him the minute? And like he's a decent

1109
00:53:16,176 --> 00:53:18,136
Speaker 5: human who will probably help. That would make sense.

1110
00:53:18,456 --> 00:53:21,456
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers, you mentioned them. What's up with him? Where

1111
00:53:21,496 --> 00:53:22,456
Speaker 3: will he be next year?

1112
00:53:25,656 --> 00:53:27,656
Speaker 5: I'd like to know if he's going to play next year.

1113
00:53:29,576 --> 00:53:34,936
Speaker 5: I imagine there'll be some darkness, some mushrooms or whatever, ayahuasca,

1114
00:53:36,336 --> 00:53:39,896
Speaker 5: a deep dive into his mental the whole deal to

1115
00:53:39,936 --> 00:53:43,416
Speaker 5: figure it out. I don't I don't know. Everyone says, like,

1116
00:53:44,216 --> 00:53:46,256
Speaker 5: you know, he's not gonna want to go out, like this,

1117
00:53:46,976 --> 00:53:49,976
Speaker 5: but it's like everybody goes out like this. It's always

1118
00:53:49,976 --> 00:53:52,336
Speaker 5: always ends bad. It's like every relationship that ends, it's like,

1119
00:53:53,736 --> 00:53:56,096
Speaker 5: but didn't end badly, wouldn't end you know, like he

1120
00:53:56,136 --> 00:54:01,335
Speaker 5: would play be freaking Tom Brady. You know, I wonder

1121
00:54:01,416 --> 00:54:04,976
Speaker 5: if it's the end for him. You know, I think

1122
00:54:05,656 --> 00:54:07,855
Speaker 5: I've said this publicly, but I know some people close

1123
00:54:07,896 --> 00:54:11,536
Speaker 5: to him who think it's the end. I don't know.

1124
00:54:11,736 --> 00:54:14,776
Speaker 5: I don't I don't know who signs him and says,

1125
00:54:15,256 --> 00:54:18,336
Speaker 5: all right, we have our quarterback situation solved, Like how

1126
00:54:18,456 --> 00:54:22,296
Speaker 5: much do you pay him? Is he a bridge quarterback now?

1127
00:54:22,376 --> 00:54:24,296
Speaker 5: And like does he at some point get beaten out

1128
00:54:24,296 --> 00:54:26,736
Speaker 5: by like a younger quarterback and that's kind of weird?

1129
00:54:27,336 --> 00:54:30,056
Speaker 5: And would he sign knowing that's possible? Like I have

1130
00:54:30,136 --> 00:54:32,736
Speaker 5: way more questions than answers when it comes to Aaron Rodgers.

1131
00:54:33,176 --> 00:54:37,336
Speaker 3: Okay, So another interesting game Washington. What they've accomplished this season?

1132
00:54:37,416 --> 00:54:40,096
Speaker 3: Dan Quinn Jaden Daniels, He's a bona fide dude, right,

1133
00:54:40,176 --> 00:54:41,896
Speaker 3: He's gonna be the rookie of the year, hands down.

1134
00:54:41,936 --> 00:54:44,416
Speaker 3: He's had one of the most incredible rookie seasons of anybody.

1135
00:54:45,376 --> 00:54:48,016
Speaker 3: Do you think that there is a chance that they

1136
00:54:48,016 --> 00:54:52,696
Speaker 3: could go into Detroit and beat this machine that Detroit is.

1137
00:54:52,776 --> 00:54:56,136
Speaker 5: Right now, I mean, they're gonna have to play so well, right,

1138
00:54:56,176 --> 00:54:59,536
Speaker 5: it's gonna have to play so well, which you know,

1139
00:54:59,696 --> 00:55:03,336
Speaker 5: the interesting thing about Washington is if they somehow manage

1140
00:55:03,376 --> 00:55:06,856
Speaker 5: to keep it close, Like let's say they're down seven

1141
00:55:06,896 --> 00:55:07,656
Speaker 5: in the fourth quarter.

1142
00:55:07,856 --> 00:55:10,056
Speaker 3: Okay, you know again.

1143
00:55:09,856 --> 00:55:11,656
Speaker 5: They're gonna have to play great. But let's say they're

1144
00:55:11,696 --> 00:55:14,216
Speaker 5: down seven in the fourth quarter. Everybody on the team

1145
00:55:14,376 --> 00:55:17,256
Speaker 5: is going to know, hey, we got a chance. We've

1146
00:55:17,296 --> 00:55:20,056
Speaker 5: been there before, we got that guy, we got a chance.

1147
00:55:20,576 --> 00:55:22,936
Speaker 5: And that is the really cool thing about having Jade

1148
00:55:22,936 --> 00:55:24,376
Speaker 5: and Gaiels, Like there's a lot of cool things.

1149
00:55:24,456 --> 00:55:24,816
Speaker 3: He is.

1150
00:55:25,296 --> 00:55:30,296
Speaker 5: He's awesome, he's like truly cerebral. He's got an absolute cannon.

1151
00:55:31,336 --> 00:55:35,776
Speaker 5: He's really fun to watch. But the knowing that every

1152
00:55:35,816 --> 00:55:38,296
Speaker 5: when it gets late and it all goes crazy, he's

1153
00:55:38,336 --> 00:55:40,816
Speaker 5: going to be the most chill dude on the team.

1154
00:55:41,296 --> 00:55:43,976
Speaker 5: You got a chance that you just got to get there.

1155
00:55:44,016 --> 00:55:48,496
Speaker 5: And like the lines are so explosive and like, you know,

1156
00:55:48,616 --> 00:55:50,656
Speaker 5: they get a takeaway or two on defense, like they

1157
00:55:50,656 --> 00:55:53,416
Speaker 5: could you know, I do wonder if the Lion's kind

1158
00:55:53,416 --> 00:55:54,656
Speaker 5: of run away with this a little better.

1159
00:55:55,136 --> 00:55:58,856
Speaker 2: Ian Rappaport at rap Sheet. Ian, thank you for the time.

1160
00:55:58,936 --> 00:56:01,576
Speaker 2: Always appreciate the knowledge and hope you have great rest

1161
00:56:01,576 --> 00:56:01,976
Speaker 2: of the day.

1162
00:56:02,216 --> 00:56:03,856
Speaker 5: Awesome, take care, guys, Thank you for having me.

1163
00:56:03,896 --> 00:56:22,816
Speaker 3: Thanks. Do you have drones, giant drones flying.

1164
00:56:22,496 --> 00:56:23,056
Speaker 1: Over your house?

1165
00:56:23,136 --> 00:56:24,216
Speaker 3: It's crazy.

1166
00:56:24,296 --> 00:56:26,416
Speaker 2: I mean not just regular drone, giant drone.

1167
00:56:26,656 --> 00:56:30,456
Speaker 3: They're not normal drones. Like at first, I'm like, am

1168
00:56:30,496 --> 00:56:32,696
Speaker 3: I just am I hallucinating right now seeing like a

1169
00:56:32,736 --> 00:56:35,736
Speaker 3: miniplane an airplane at first because of the lights. I

1170
00:56:35,776 --> 00:56:37,736
Speaker 3: mean literally it looks like it could have an airplane, right,

1171
00:56:37,776 --> 00:56:40,456
Speaker 3: and they have lights and green lights and all kinds

1172
00:56:40,456 --> 00:56:42,616
Speaker 3: of stuff, and I'm going, what is going on? I

1173
00:56:42,656 --> 00:56:45,176
Speaker 3: literally filmed it the other day, one flying over my

1174
00:56:45,216 --> 00:56:49,856
Speaker 3: house and I'm just like, what is that? And nobody

1175
00:56:49,896 --> 00:56:52,376
Speaker 3: there's no answers, And if you don't see anything, nobody

1176
00:56:52,416 --> 00:56:54,416
Speaker 3: says anything. It's gigantic too.

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00:56:55,456 --> 00:56:57,376
Speaker 2: And again it's shape because they're kind of have a

1178
00:56:57,376 --> 00:57:00,256
Speaker 2: big X in them. Yes, so what you can think

1179
00:57:00,256 --> 00:57:03,656
Speaker 2: it's an airplane at the shape of the lights.

1180
00:57:03,456 --> 00:57:06,296
Speaker 3: But then how it's moving. It's floating.

1181
00:57:06,696 --> 00:57:10,616
Speaker 2: And the one that flew low enough it was like

1182
00:57:11,776 --> 00:57:14,296
Speaker 2: a little after dusk but not fully dark, and I

1183
00:57:14,336 --> 00:57:17,456
Speaker 2: was able to really see one. Yeah, because my wife

1184
00:57:17,496 --> 00:57:19,816
Speaker 2: is the one that pointed them out, because obviously all

1185
00:57:19,856 --> 00:57:23,016
Speaker 2: those drones in New Jersey and the East Coast, it's like,

1186
00:57:23,056 --> 00:57:24,136
Speaker 2: oh my god, are the aliens?

1187
00:57:24,176 --> 00:57:25,096
Speaker 3: Is it China? Who knows?

1188
00:57:25,616 --> 00:57:28,216
Speaker 2: But then I'm just thinking she sees all that on

1189
00:57:28,256 --> 00:57:29,896
Speaker 2: the news and just thinking she's seeing a drone. I'm like,

1190
00:57:29,936 --> 00:57:32,056
Speaker 2: that's not a drone. That's not a drone. It's a

1191
00:57:32,056 --> 00:57:35,216
Speaker 2: freaking drone, and so it's a real drone. I wanted

1192
00:57:35,256 --> 00:57:38,416
Speaker 2: to shoot it down, I literally because I have guns,

1193
00:57:38,456 --> 00:57:40,216
Speaker 2: and so I grabbed my twelve gage that I have

1194
00:57:40,456 --> 00:57:44,136
Speaker 2: under my bed. And my wife's like, what are you doing.

1195
00:57:44,136 --> 00:57:45,376
Speaker 2: I was like, well, I'm just gonna walk out there

1196
00:57:45,416 --> 00:57:46,216
Speaker 2: and see how lo it is.

1197
00:57:46,296 --> 00:57:48,536
Speaker 3: That would be amazing if you shut that thing down.

1198
00:57:49,256 --> 00:57:51,416
Speaker 2: So she goes, can you even do that? You know

1199
00:57:51,416 --> 00:57:54,296
Speaker 2: we're in a neighborhood, And I said, that's a great point.

1200
00:57:54,336 --> 00:57:56,896
Speaker 2: I don't know that I was going to, but I

1201
00:57:56,936 --> 00:57:59,216
Speaker 2: had it in my hand just in case, and so

1202
00:57:59,296 --> 00:58:02,736
Speaker 2: I google it and you cannot shoot down a drone.

1203
00:58:02,936 --> 00:58:04,736
Speaker 3: It was interesting. I read an article about a guy

1204
00:58:04,736 --> 00:58:07,096
Speaker 3: in Tampa. That guy arrested like he was a seventy

1205
00:58:07,136 --> 00:58:09,016
Speaker 3: five year old man. He's like, what's this drone doing

1206
00:58:09,016 --> 00:58:11,296
Speaker 3: over my house? It's floating over my house? And he

1207
00:58:11,336 --> 00:58:13,256
Speaker 3: shot it down and they came and arrested him. He's like,

1208
00:58:13,376 --> 00:58:16,216
Speaker 3: what for it was over my house? Like, you can't

1209
00:58:16,256 --> 00:58:17,216
Speaker 3: shoot down a drone.

1210
00:58:17,416 --> 00:58:18,976
Speaker 2: I would think that was my property too, like the

1211
00:58:19,016 --> 00:58:20,176
Speaker 2: air up to a certain point.

1212
00:58:20,256 --> 00:58:22,336
Speaker 3: Yeah, isn't this mine all of space too?

1213
00:58:23,016 --> 00:58:25,176
Speaker 2: So I didn't shoot it, but I Google, like, what

1214
00:58:25,176 --> 00:58:27,456
Speaker 2: can you do if a drone's flying over? And they

1215
00:58:27,496 --> 00:58:30,736
Speaker 2: give you options? One is this is the stupidest option ever.

1216
00:58:30,816 --> 00:58:32,736
Speaker 2: It says put up a sign. This says no drone

1217
00:58:32,816 --> 00:58:35,776
Speaker 2: zone because apparently drones will pay attention. There's no chance

1218
00:58:35,856 --> 00:58:38,136
Speaker 2: a single drones ever going to see that and go like,

1219
00:58:38,496 --> 00:58:40,416
Speaker 2: you know, we were flying over this house, but let's

1220
00:58:40,456 --> 00:58:41,376
Speaker 2: let's let's avoid it.

1221
00:58:41,496 --> 00:58:44,376
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got to avoid that one. No trespassing, no drones.

1222
00:58:44,736 --> 00:58:47,936
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jim, there's a no drones sign here. So the

1223
00:58:47,976 --> 00:58:49,736
Speaker 2: second one was called the cops. Now can you imagine

1224
00:58:49,736 --> 00:58:51,296
Speaker 2: if I called the cops? Oh my gosh, what they

1225
00:58:51,296 --> 00:58:52,376
Speaker 2: would say if they came.

1226
00:58:52,216 --> 00:58:55,456
Speaker 3: Over, Like, we're dealing with some serious stuff over here,

1227
00:58:55,536 --> 00:58:57,176
Speaker 3: but you want me to come look at the drone

1228
00:58:57,176 --> 00:58:57,496
Speaker 3: with you.

1229
00:58:58,136 --> 00:58:59,976
Speaker 2: Or yeah, we got a flying overhouse too.

1230
00:59:00,096 --> 00:59:01,176
Speaker 3: You know, what do you want to do?

1231
00:59:01,496 --> 00:59:03,656
Speaker 2: The third, and I'm not kidding, says you can launch

1232
00:59:03,776 --> 00:59:04,856
Speaker 2: launch a counter drone.

1233
00:59:05,536 --> 00:59:09,816
Speaker 3: Yes, now this is like Battlestar Galacria. Now we got

1234
00:59:09,856 --> 00:59:11,656
Speaker 3: some tell me you have something brewing here.

1235
00:59:11,736 --> 00:59:14,936
Speaker 2: I literally have a drone right over there. Now it

1236
00:59:14,976 --> 00:59:16,776
Speaker 2: was a little smaller than I thought, but this one

1237
00:59:16,816 --> 00:59:20,496
Speaker 2: moves fast. Oh yeah, you should get This one moves fast.

1238
00:59:20,816 --> 00:59:24,016
Speaker 2: It's very agile. And this is a camera. It's got

1239
00:59:24,016 --> 00:59:26,336
Speaker 2: both a click click camera and a video camera.

1240
00:59:26,536 --> 00:59:29,336
Speaker 6: Yes, I can't wait for this, so I'm sending this up.

1241
00:59:29,936 --> 00:59:33,296
Speaker 6: We should get We should send a fleet, like five

1242
00:59:33,336 --> 00:59:34,736
Speaker 6: of them up. Dude, I don't know if I can

1243
00:59:34,776 --> 00:59:36,416
Speaker 6: fly one. You're trying to fly five. Well, we're gonna

1244
00:59:36,416 --> 00:59:37,936
Speaker 6: have to get you. We're gonna have to bring over

1245
00:59:37,976 --> 00:59:38,576
Speaker 6: some more people.

1246
00:59:38,416 --> 00:59:39,656
Speaker 2: And then we would crashing. You know, we crash them

1247
00:59:39,696 --> 00:59:41,816
Speaker 2: in each other. Yes, if it's five of us, you

1248
00:59:41,856 --> 00:59:44,056
Speaker 2: know we're for sure crashing them in each other. I'm

1249
00:59:44,056 --> 00:59:47,376
Speaker 2: gonna fly this up and try to find out what

1250
00:59:47,456 --> 00:59:50,496
Speaker 2: exactly that thing is, because again I did think it

1251
00:59:50,496 --> 00:59:53,456
Speaker 2: would be a little bigger but if you fly over

1252
00:59:53,496 --> 00:59:55,896
Speaker 2: five hundred feet, that's against the law a drone. But

1253
00:59:55,936 --> 00:59:57,616
Speaker 2: what's the difference in five hundred and five eighty?

1254
00:59:57,616 --> 00:59:59,696
Speaker 3: They're not gonna know. They're not gonna know. Plus, who's

1255
00:59:59,696 --> 01:00:03,096
Speaker 3: gonna call the cops on you? Nobody? That true.

1256
01:00:03,496 --> 01:00:05,656
Speaker 2: Maybe the people that know drone zone signs to be

1257
01:00:05,656 --> 01:00:07,736
Speaker 2: over there and they'll call it on me. The thing

1258
01:00:07,736 --> 01:00:11,456
Speaker 2: that I worry about with this drone is that drones

1259
01:00:11,576 --> 01:00:13,816
Speaker 2: can't see at night. That's the problem, and that's why

1260
01:00:13,816 --> 01:00:16,216
Speaker 2: it's so weird that drones are flying over is.

1261
01:00:17,456 --> 01:00:19,016
Speaker 3: Let's be honest. These are superpowered drive.

1262
01:00:19,136 --> 01:00:24,016
Speaker 2: Yes, so they're looking for something where they're getting either heat, radiation.

1263
01:00:24,296 --> 01:00:26,256
Speaker 3: Some some kind of activity.

1264
01:00:26,376 --> 01:00:28,696
Speaker 2: Yes, But I'm going to try to launch this at dusk?

1265
01:00:29,896 --> 01:00:32,056
Speaker 3: What you get there? Laughing over there? Do you know

1266
01:00:32,456 --> 01:00:33,976
Speaker 3: that you know their flight patterns right now?

1267
01:00:34,256 --> 01:00:34,456
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1268
01:00:34,496 --> 01:00:35,656
Speaker 3: But my house, that's the pattern.

1269
01:00:35,696 --> 01:00:37,656
Speaker 2: They just think it's going to be dusk for sure.

1270
01:00:38,456 --> 01:00:40,816
Speaker 2: We see them at dusk sometimes. Okay, Like I don't

1271
01:00:40,816 --> 01:00:43,136
Speaker 2: think I can launch when it's full dark because I

1272
01:00:43,176 --> 01:00:45,416
Speaker 2: don't know that it will see anything. I will try,

1273
01:00:46,016 --> 01:00:49,176
Speaker 2: but I think it's gonna if I go to jail,

1274
01:00:49,216 --> 01:00:49,816
Speaker 2: I'm gonna.

1275
01:00:49,576 --> 01:00:51,376
Speaker 3: Call you to bel me out. Then you said, I

1276
01:00:51,456 --> 01:00:53,296
Speaker 3: read it on the internet. I could go. I could

1277
01:00:53,296 --> 01:00:55,416
Speaker 3: go up and go head to head with this thing.

1278
01:00:55,576 --> 01:00:58,016
Speaker 2: I'm going to drone. I don't want to say battle yet.

1279
01:00:58,216 --> 01:01:01,456
Speaker 2: I'm build o recon work first. See what kind of

1280
01:01:01,456 --> 01:01:04,296
Speaker 2: body armor it has. Anybody that's ever saved the world

1281
01:01:05,096 --> 01:01:06,936
Speaker 2: had to do it because no one else was doing it.

1282
01:01:07,656 --> 01:01:09,696
Speaker 3: True, and you're about to do it, and I'm about

1283
01:01:09,696 --> 01:01:11,136
Speaker 3: to do it. You're about to find answers.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So if I have to be the one to

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Speaker 2: save the world with this drone right here, Although I

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Speaker 2: did think it'd be a little bigger when I opened

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Speaker 2: it out of the box.

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Speaker 3: I was like, huh yeah, not that intimidating. I don't

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Speaker 3: know if it's going to be intimidating, But at the

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Speaker 3: same time, it might give us some answers. And that's

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Speaker 3: what we're that's all life, that's all we're looking for.

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Speaker 2: Answers for this, answers for games this weekend. Another episode

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Speaker 2: coming up this week will have boomerasiasin and Parker McCollum on,

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Speaker 2: who's big Texans fans, so it must have been a big,

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Speaker 2: big weekend for him also, and it may be tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow the next day, we'll go through each of the

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Speaker 2: games make our picks. We appreciate you guys listening. If

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Speaker 2: you don't mind, let's say you're hearing this on one

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Speaker 2: of the NFL feeds or my feed, please go subscribe

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Speaker 2: to the lots to safetyed. That would help us a ton.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate all the messages. Actually we've gotten none.

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Speaker 3: No messages. No messages.

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Speaker 2: Well, I've gotten messages, but there's no place to where

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Speaker 2: they can actually send us message.

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Speaker 3: Obviously. My mom hasn't found the subscribe and comment section

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Speaker 3: because she drop quite a few. We need it because

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Speaker 3: it would help our algorithm.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, tell her to do that, or I'll just.

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Speaker 3: Go on and start dropping Steff randomly. Has your mom

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Speaker 3: or as you no, probably has me. I want to

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Speaker 3: play you.

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Speaker 2: To conclude, I said this about the Titans, and I've

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Speaker 2: been told it was a little too harsh.

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Speaker 3: Huh. When I want on Good Morning.

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Speaker 2: Football today, I said this about the Tennessee Titans a.

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Speaker 3: Little too harsh on the Badger.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that I was too harsh. I was

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Speaker 2: just like I do. I say, hey, I have lots

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Speaker 2: to say. Yeah, and I was just being honest.

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Speaker 3: Here we go. The Titans suck, Let's just be honest.

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Speaker 3: That's why they got the first pick. They're terrible. The

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Speaker 3: colors look slow.

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Speaker 2: It's weird that colors are even slow, but even our

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Speaker 2: colors look slow. So everything about the Titans is an

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Speaker 2: absolute disaster. Derrick Henry Goes has a great seat.

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Speaker 3: It's all. It's a mess. We have the number one pick.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure somehow we're gonna trade the for like a

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Speaker 2: Babe Ruths from the Red Sox to the Yankees for

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Speaker 2: like a Broadway play, Like that's.

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Speaker 3: What I expect us to do.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna we're gonna trade our best pick for a

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Speaker 2: Broadway player or something. So no, it's a disaster and

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Speaker 2: nobody wants to go to the games because it's cold.

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Speaker 2: But we're building a stadium and yeah, well that's all

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Speaker 2: we have to hang a hat on.

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Speaker 3: Thoughts, Wow, you definitely unloaded as true or frustrated, and

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Speaker 3: now it's it's true. It's a dumpster fire right now.

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Speaker 3: I mean not only that you fire your GM after

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Speaker 3: two seasons. You don't really know who's in power, what

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Speaker 3: the ownership, you know, the power play at B and

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Speaker 3: then you look at the team, there's so many different

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Speaker 3: holes that you have to be concerned with, not just

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Speaker 3: the offensive line, your quarterback position. Defensively, there's holes as well.

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Speaker 3: So there's a lot, a lot of work to be

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Speaker 3: done in or for this organization to get back to

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Speaker 3: where they're at least competitive. And they just look the colors.

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Speaker 3: I mean, anytime you're the number one pick in the draft,

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Speaker 3: that means you're not in a good place in.

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Speaker 2: Time, unless you're like the Golden State Warriors when Stefan

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Speaker 2: Clay both got hurt and they lost a bunch of

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Speaker 2: games that year and had a really great pick.

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Speaker 6: Right, you know, those guys were coming back, you know.

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Speaker 6: Yeah's what I'm saying, Like, that's the that's the only

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Speaker 6: like good part. Don't have those guys going back.

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Speaker 3: We don't.

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Speaker 2: We don't even have football players like Stephan Clay if

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Speaker 2: they played football.

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Speaker 3: All Right, We're done. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: This is executive produced by Kickoff Kevin and shot by

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Speaker 2: Red Arberry's Matt Castle on Bobby Bones.

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Speaker 1: We had lots to say, thank you, guys, Lots to

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Speaker 1: say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Is a production

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