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Speaker 1: What is up everybody? We're back three and out podcast

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Speaker 1: John Middlecop that'd be me. I just wanted to let

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Speaker 1: everyone know I'm going back on vacation for a couple

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Speaker 1: these couple of weeks until training camp, which is is

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Speaker 1: right around the corner. I think a lot of teams

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Speaker 1: the middle of the July, so we'll get football games going,

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Speaker 1: you know, in early August. Uh I guess I'm happy

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Speaker 1: Then when you go somewhere for a while, you look

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be here anymore. Uh So that's

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Speaker 1: was warm. I like the warmth. I mean, I I

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Speaker 1: take that over the cold any day. I'll never forget

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Speaker 1: I don't do the cold like the heat I like.

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Speaker 1: It's why we have like Tahoe, which will lead me

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Speaker 1: to the first thing I'll talk about. Something I noticed

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Speaker 1: I need everyone one to leave some Middlecoff mailbags. Add

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Speaker 1: John Middlecoff is the Instagram leave a middlecoff mail bag

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Speaker 1: and I'll get to you because I've basically blown through

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Speaker 1: them all. And uh, leave a review. If you listen

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Speaker 1: And anyone who I think is in business or is

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Speaker 1: I actually think you can do more. Now. That doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean you can't be in a business partnership where you

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Speaker 1: you know, there are better relationships than others when we

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Speaker 1: That doesn't mean you can't be great parents. That doesn't

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Speaker 1: especially with children. I've noticed this for years. These two

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Speaker 1: Those two guys are there. They go everywhere together. Now,

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Speaker 1: We're not dumb. We know when we watch how special

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Speaker 1: under the guys under him. You know, on the undercard fighting,

426
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Speaker 1: I think there were twelve or thirteen fights, the majority

427
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Speaker 1: of those fights. If Connor and Dustin fight was not happening,

428
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 1: no one would give a ship and someone like me

429
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 1: and most people listening that paid for the fight, not

430
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 1: in a million years would have paid for the fight.

431
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Speaker 1: So like in pro sports, your backup shooting guard, it's

432
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,400
Speaker 1: hard to replace a good backup shooting guard, your your

433
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,159
Speaker 1: right guard, like his value is kind of his value,

434
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 1: you have to have him. The random fighters like they're

435
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 1: pretty replaceable. Connor not replaceable, Chuck Ladhill not replaceable, Dustin.

436
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 1: You know, some of these high end guys, col bib whoever,

437
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 1: I don't even really know who could be is. But

438
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 1: the high high end guys for you UFC guys, they're

439
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 1: the Pacials, the Mayweathers, the Tyson's, the elite. They always

440
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 1: make money. The random guys, I'm sorry, like they don't

441
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,640
Speaker 1: have that, Like they're not that important. They're they're not.

442
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 1: There's a reason the random right guard makes eight grand

443
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:45,120
Speaker 1: and the star left tackle makes twenty million dollars. One

444
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 1: guy is easier replaced than the other. It's just basic economics.

445
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 1: So we act like all these players in the history

446
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,119
Speaker 1: of of college sports have gotten screwed. That's not the case.

447
00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:01,160
Speaker 1: The majority of them were properly compensated through a scholarship,

448
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 1: through the fame, through the free education, because most people

449
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 1: in college sports do not go pro. Now, the guys

450
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 1: that got screwed, the te Bows, the Reggie Bushes, the

451
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:17,879
Speaker 1: Johnny Manzel's, the Star Jymnast, the Michael Phelps, those fuck yeah,

452
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 1: they got jipped. They should have been able to make

453
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 1: big money. Now we know in college basketball, and I

454
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 1: know j Billis loves getting on his high horse, these

455
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 1: guys are begetting screwed. Jay. The FEDS told us it

456
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 1: is the dumbest FBI rate of all time. But we

457
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Speaker 1: know factually, which we all knew before, the FBI have

458
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Speaker 1: a rated that what a top high end college basketball

459
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 1: player went for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Now, I

460
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Speaker 1: would imagine and just the people that I know in

461
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 1: college athletics, it usually goes to the parents, not the kid.

462
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Speaker 1: But the kids were clearly getting money from shoot deals.

463
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Speaker 1: But that's another conversation. Again, I was never bothered by that.

464
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Speaker 1: I heard Brent Musburger say this one once. That's called capitalism.

465
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 1: The n C double A is not the law. It's

466
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Speaker 1: just some random governing body of college athletics, which really

467
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 1: no one cares about unless you're in college athletics. Use

468
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: at the polle because they'll they'll get you in trouble.

469
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: So when the n I L came out, it's like

470
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Speaker 1: everyone's gonna get properly compensated, are they? Like most people

471
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Speaker 1: aren't worth any money. If you're some random wide receiver

472
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Speaker 1: at Oregon, if you are some backup shooting guard at

473
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Speaker 1: NC State, I got news for you. No one really cares.

474
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 1: Now you might be important to the team, but you're

475
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Speaker 1: not worth any money. Now. The start, the Tuatanga Voloa,

476
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Speaker 1: the Trevor Lawrence, the Thibodeaux kid up in Oregon that

477
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 1: Phil Knight specifically sponsored. Those guys are valuable. The Twins

478
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Speaker 1: at Fresno State, the high end people just like in

479
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 1: UFC are always going to be valuable, and now legally

480
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: without getting the school in trouble, they can profit. Good

481
00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: for them. But this notion that everyone's gonna get paid. Listen,

482
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Speaker 1: if you're some random business and you're paying random players

483
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Speaker 1: on college teams, you're a terrible at business. Now, if

484
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Speaker 1: you paid the star player smart move. They can help

485
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Speaker 1: grow your business or someone that's popular in your given

486
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,959
Speaker 1: you know area, like if you're Ohio State, you live

487
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 1: in Columbus and you're a local car dealership. It really

488
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 1: most of these deals are going to be social media based.

489
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 1: But the simple reality is is that the high end

490
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 1: guy got truly screwed forever. Right the Liner's, the Tebows,

491
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Speaker 1: the Derrick Henry's, whoever, the star Lamar Jackson of college

492
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 1: football that given year, or college basketball. But I throw

493
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 1: college basketball out because we know they're all getting paid.

494
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 1: So the n I l with this. We're throwing this

495
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Speaker 1: huge party like money is gonna be flowing everywhere. Yeah,

496
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Speaker 1: for the top guys, because in most industries, the top

497
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: people always make the most. That's how it is, and

498
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Speaker 1: that's how it always will be and should be. They

499
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Speaker 1: are more valuable. I just did a marketing advertising deal

500
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: on my other podcast with guy and we just are

501
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: going to get a lot more money through a company.

502
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: Why because we had leverage. Another company in the space

503
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Speaker 1: wanted us to go to them, and I looking back,

504
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Speaker 1: I probably could have just made it up and approached

505
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Speaker 1: the deal and tried to get more money but I

506
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 1: didn't like they came to me kind of out of

507
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: the blue. We're like, then they're gonna offer us more money,

508
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: we go back to the other company. They don't want

509
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Speaker 1: to lose us, but without the leverage. And I always

510
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 1: thought this when I was younger, like when I first

511
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 1: got to the Eagles, like I should make more, or

512
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,360
Speaker 1: when I first got a radio job, like I'm more

513
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: triple this. And you realize, well, if no one else

514
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: is asking you to work for them, you're not. Your

515
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 1: market value is your market value. So I think we're

516
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of kids. They're gonna think they're

517
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Speaker 1: gonna be worth something, and they're just not right. The

518
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,959
Speaker 1: star quarterback at Alabama is going to be worth something.

519
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Speaker 1: The star player on the West Coast, for sure, the

520
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Speaker 1: girls whoever, the most famous track athlete, huge followings, those

521
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Speaker 1: twins at Fresno State, they're going to generate a lot

522
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Speaker 1: of money. But random volleyball player at Hexas Tech is

523
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: not gonna make anything. Random slot receiver at Iowa State

524
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 1: not really gonna make anything. Maybe get some free swag

525
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: or free merch. Good for them, you don't think they

526
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: were getting that before. So awesome for the top guys.

527
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: This move was mainly about the top guys, and there

528
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 1: are gonna be some decisions in recruiting where some promises

529
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: are made and it's gonna backfire because in college football

530
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 1: it's not like college basketball. When I get Zion, I

531
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: know he's gonna be Zion. But think how many times

532
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: if you follow the draft, do you see this guy

533
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: gets draft in the fifth round and mel Keeper or

534
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 1: Mayock over the years would be like, you know, he

535
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: was the number one overall recruit coming out of high school.

536
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: For every Trevor Lawrence, there are a lot of guys

537
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: that never make it. So I would imagine these deals,

538
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: they're gonna be facilitated through the companies, through the programs

539
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 1: to try to get people to sign with their schools.

540
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,360
Speaker 1: And I think some of these companies are old really

541
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: gonna get burnt. If I was a company, or I

542
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: was someone that was consulting these companies, I would say this,

543
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: wait till the kids get the campus. You can see

544
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: how good they are, and then once they're good, you

545
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: compensate them, because if they're not good, they're not very valuable.

546
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: It's what Tebow became so valuable when he started kicking ass,

547
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: Reggie Bush when he started kicking ass. All these guys

548
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: we all know the names of the last couple of decades.

549
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: But the overreaction is a little laughable. Uh. Someone d

550
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 1: m me this and thought, do you think this will

551
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: help the scouting decisions, Like do you think scouts will

552
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: be able to be like, you know, I saw the guy,

553
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: the quarterback from Miami. I think he actually tore us

554
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: knee last year. King probably a bad example, but let's

555
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: say he was healthy and someone gave him a hundred

556
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: thousand dollars and I don't even want to use a

557
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: name because it's not fair to him. Let's just use

558
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: random player gets a hundred thousand dollars and he doesn't.

559
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: He kind of the coaches tell you the scouts that

560
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: come through, you know, he started acting big time. He

561
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: he didn't treat his teammates well. He just walked in

562
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: like he was too cool for school. He had made

563
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: it and and basically people were asking me, do you

564
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: think that teams will go well, he is not gonna

565
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: you know, uh, respond, well, the money, because that's always

566
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: a big question in the scouting community. When you go

567
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: through a college, you're talking to their coordinators you're talking

568
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: to their academic advisors, talking to anyone, and you ask them,

569
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Speaker 1: how do you think this player will respond to millions

570
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: of dollars? And you get various answers, But the reality

571
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: is no one has any clue. There's not a soul

572
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: in the room that knows how they're gonna respond to

573
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: millions of dollars. Why because no one ever knows until

574
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: you get millions of dollars. So and also, let's say,

575
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Speaker 1: let's just use a flat number, a hundred thousand dollars.

576
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Speaker 1: If you handed me a hundred thousand dollar check right now,

577
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: at thirty six years old, I would handle it pretty well, right.

578
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I get money like whatever through my deals

579
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: or whatever, the money that I get. I can handle

580
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: large sums of money very well, partly because I have

581
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Speaker 1: a decade and a half of dealing with money coming

582
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Speaker 1: in now. It wasn't always as big as it is now,

583
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: but I've learned to blow not blow it, what to

584
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Speaker 1: invest in, what to put my money in, what I

585
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: want to you know, homes the body. Whatever my priorities

586
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: have changed. If you had handed me a hundred grand

587
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Speaker 1: at twenty years old, do you know what I would

588
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: have done? With the under grand at twenty years old,

589
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: I would not have invested in the stock market. I

590
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: would not have invested into a remodel. I would not

591
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: have put it away in savings, even though savings you

592
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: could argue it's never been more overrated with inflation, but

593
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: that's another conversation. I would have blown it. I would

594
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Speaker 1: have taken my buddies. We would have gone on vacation.

595
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: I would have bought a car before I knew what

596
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: the money probably would have been gone. So to judge

597
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: any of these guys at eighteen, nineteen, twenty years old

598
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do with money, I think it would

599
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: kind of be unfair. And I think one thing that's

600
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: gonna be a learning process for the NFL is like

601
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: understanding that kids are gonna make mistakes. Because anyone listening

602
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: to this that's over like twenty, i'd say late twenties.

603
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: Definitely in your thirties. If I hand you money and

604
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: you have any sort of head on your shoulder, you

605
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: would handle it. You do handle it dramatically better because

606
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: most of us, unlike pro athletes, we make more money

607
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: as life goes on. Right, most pro athletes, the majority

608
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: like it's hard to make fifty million dollars, a hundred

609
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: million dollars, twenty million dollars like they do in their twenties.

610
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: You can't really be prepared for that, but you definitely cannot.

611
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: It's the NFL and pro sports are equipped to at

612
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: least help you in college. They're not right. So these kids,

613
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: they're gonna be some things. And some of these stories

614
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: that are gonna come out like this guy blew it

615
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: on this, This guy blew on that. It's kind of understandable.

616
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: I would do that too. If you handed me five

617
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: grand Let's say I was some star athlete or a

618
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: million dollars. Who knows what I would buy. I definitely

619
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't be like, you know, let's check out the condo

620
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: situation where I can invest to be buy a unit

621
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: worth of four units to be able to rent out

622
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: and let me X number of dollars. Who thinks like that. Nobody?

623
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: Maybe some kids at Stanford. Most of these kids are

624
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: gonna buy maybe like, hey, but you want a car

625
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: and buy my buddy a car, right role x is

626
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,719
Speaker 1: from my whole line, which is not a dumb thing

627
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: to do, but you just you know what I'm saying.

628
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: They are gonna be some stories that are laughable. Why

629
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: because young kids with a lot of money sometimes do

630
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: some dumb shit. So I don't even I don't think

631
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: that the NFL will be able to judge them correctly

632
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: for a long period of time. And I think you're

633
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: gonna have to take that with a big time grain

634
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: of salt. It's like I learned, like when you're scouting

635
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: g p A, we didn't care about g p A

636
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: in the NFL. No one cares, right because learning football

637
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: and learning in school are completely different things. I saw

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Speaker 1: I once Richard Branson flew to space, I just went

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Speaker 1: to his uh his Wikipedia page. He started reading about him,

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Speaker 1: and I guess they found out he had to alexia,

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Speaker 1: And I think it lacks of a lot of millionaires

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Speaker 1: have dyslexia. I've read that in a study before. But

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Speaker 1: like a teacher told him, like in junior high, he

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Speaker 1: was either gonna end up in prison or become a

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Speaker 1: millionaire because he was terrible at school. And I wasn't

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Speaker 1: necessarily terrible at school, just because I just I had

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Speaker 1: to force you know, I don't know I cheated. I

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Speaker 1: just would do everything possible to pass. But I hated school. School,

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Speaker 1: wasn't really for me. And really since I've left college,

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00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: and even in college, it nothing carries over from college

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00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: academically to my life since and I knew early on,

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Speaker 1: like I was not going to be doing anything that

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Speaker 1: I was going to learn in school. Now some people,

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Speaker 1: if you're listening to you're an accountant, you're a lawyer.

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Speaker 1: A lot of things that carry over, but a lot

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Speaker 1: of jobs like there is no carry over. Like if

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Speaker 1: you want to be an actor and you're a business student,

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Speaker 1: like it's not really doing much for you. Do you

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00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: want to be an entrepreneur? Like being some liberal studies

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00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: major isn't doing anything for you, just like you know,

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Speaker 1: being in school. Like I've always supported when you talked

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Speaker 1: to athletes like I didn't like going to school. Now

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Speaker 1: you gotta be careful because not every athlete is gonna

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Speaker 1: go to the pros, but the pros. Like if I'm

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Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch, why am I going to school? Why? Math Fitzpatrick,

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Speaker 1: who's a golfer on the on the PGA Tour, really

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Speaker 1: good player, young guy. He's from Ireland and he's one

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Speaker 1: of the elite young guys. Northwestern signed him out of

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Speaker 1: you know, high school, and he shows up at Northwestern

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Speaker 1: and in his mind he thought he was just gonna

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Speaker 1: go to All he'd have to do is play golf

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Speaker 1: because obviously in Europe, you know, you don't have to

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Speaker 1: go to school if you're a quote unquote athlete. You

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Speaker 1: just do a lot of those pro leagues. And he

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00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 1: realized he had to go to school. He dropped out

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Speaker 1: after a semester and went pro. You know, He's like,

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Speaker 1: what am I doing. I'm a golfer, I'm not a student.

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Speaker 1: So I just think you have to kind of know

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Speaker 1: your value and that that'll be interesting with I don't

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Speaker 1: know why I went off on this tangent, but my point,

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Speaker 1: I guess is that some of these players, like you

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Speaker 1: do have to stay eligible to play football and uh.

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Speaker 1: And my last point is, I think the programs that

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Speaker 1: will embrace this in all the top Sabing, Will Dabbo

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Speaker 1: will have to Oregon already is will excel. And I

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Speaker 1: think by the end, because this is what happens in

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Speaker 1: any business, you either adapt or you die. So every

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Speaker 1: single program that is full pedal down, that is open

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Speaker 1: minded and willing to do everything possible to facilitate these

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Speaker 1: deals are going to kill it early on, and some

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Speaker 1: of these programs will push back a little bit and

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Speaker 1: they'll get laughed, but things just progress. That's always what happens.

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Speaker 1: I was I got my second shot and I was

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Speaker 1: stuck in bed a couple of days ago. It was miserable.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I I was just like, this is I've

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Speaker 1: never felt. I mean I have. I was sicker when

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00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 1: I got food poisoning, but I had I couldn't move

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Speaker 1: and so I just watched movies all day. I haven't

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Speaker 1: done anything like that in years. Uh. And I watched

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Speaker 1: Boogie Nights and I was just flipping through Netflix. Some

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Speaker 1: Boogie Nights was I mean, it wasn't on. I've clicked

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Speaker 1: on it. And there was that part at the end

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Speaker 1: of the movie where they try to get Burt Reynolds

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Speaker 1: to like realize, you know, tape cassettes are coming, It's

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Speaker 1: not gonna be this the way the movies were in

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Speaker 1: the seventies, and he like pushed back on it and

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00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: he ended up. He went under. Couldn't keep up with

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Speaker 1: the times. Like if you don't keep up with the times,

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Speaker 1: you go under in any business. So it's no different

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Speaker 1: college football, for like if Alabama and Saban pushed back

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Speaker 1: and refused to do this this, they would get laughed,

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Speaker 1: but I would imagine Nick's going to be the most

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Speaker 1: open mind Ohio State. The top programs are. They're not

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Speaker 1: Texas right there. They understand what's at stake here. But

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Speaker 1: there will be some old school programs and probably some

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Speaker 1: old school coaches that are uncomfortable with this, and they'll

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Speaker 1: get hurt. But eventually, in three or four years, as

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Speaker 1: this kind of plays out, the top programs will be

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Speaker 1: the top programs. The top players will make the most money,

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Speaker 1: and the random guys won't really make any money like

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Speaker 1: it's probably always been. Just now the I R s

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Speaker 1: and knows about it. I appreciate everyone listening. Kept it

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Speaker 1: short and sweet. Have a good week. I'll see you later. Peace,