Speaker 1: You are entering the Freedom Hunt. It's week two of
Speaker 1: the fifteen days to stop the spread. We have updates
Speaker 1: about our fight against COVID nineteen, the Wuhan virus. We'll
Speaker 1: talk about not just the risks of this pandemic to
Speaker 1: our health, but also to our economy. We've got a
Speaker 1: number of US senators in quarantine. One senator already has
Speaker 1: been positive for it. We'll talk about what happens next
Speaker 1: and where we're going. Coming up on the Buck Sexton Show.
Speaker 1: This is the bus Sexton Show where the mission or
Speaker 1: mission is to decode what really matters with actionable intelligence,
Speaker 1: make no mistakes, Great American Again, the Buck Sexon Show begins.
Speaker 1: He's a great guy. Now for those word and afraid,
Speaker 1: please know as long as I am your president, you
Speaker 1: can feel confident that you have a leader who will
Speaker 1: always fight for you and I will not stop until
Speaker 1: we win. This will be a great victory. Welcome the
Speaker 1: Buck sex and show everybody. The President trying to reassure
Speaker 1: us that it's all going to be okay. I think
Speaker 1: it is going to be okay, but we have some
Speaker 1: big decisions to make, not just in the months ahead,
Speaker 1: but in fact in the weeks ahead, we have decisions
Speaker 1: that we will have to make about whether or not
Speaker 1: we allow this virus to fundamentally transform our economy, really
Speaker 1: to destroy our economy, and that's going to be one
Speaker 1: of my main focuses today. The President also tweeted out
Speaker 1: that we cannot let the cure be worse than the
Speaker 1: problem itself. At the end of the fifteen day period,
Speaker 1: will make a decision as to which way we want
Speaker 1: to go. Look, I've been advocating here that the end
Speaker 1: of the fifteen day period is something we should all
Speaker 1: try to adhere to as much as we can give
Speaker 1: the government a little more time to figure out what
Speaker 1: it is that they need. Right. I've been thinking about
Speaker 1: the best ways for us in our own individual capacity
Speaker 1: to try and fight against this or prevent the spread
Speaker 1: of this. But the fifteen days was supposed to be
Speaker 1: allowing the government to get prepared, really to play catch up.
Speaker 1: Because the government lost time, and I've seen even more
Speaker 1: information now about the problem, not just with the CDC
Speaker 1: but with the FDA. Government agencies are not capable of
Speaker 1: moving swiftly and decisively. It is like against their bureaucratic DNA.
Speaker 1: If we have time, we'll get into some more of
Speaker 1: the information on that how exactly that all fell apart.
Speaker 1: But now we've gone through a week of these extreme
Speaker 1: measures at different levels, and we have all these on
Speaker 1: the screens. If you're watching TV or if you're opening
Speaker 1: up the news, you look at the cases around the world.
Speaker 1: Three hundred and fifty thousand more or less as of today,
Speaker 1: about fifteen thousand, three hundred deaths worldwide, over one hundred
Speaker 1: thousand recoveries worldwide, pending cases two hundred and thirty plus thousand.
Speaker 1: That's in a population of what seven going on eight
Speaker 1: billion people. The numbers are actually quite small, and I
Speaker 1: want to bring to your attention the most interesting analysis
Speaker 1: of this that I have seen from a true epidemiologist,
Speaker 1: a person who is honestly able to look at this
Speaker 1: and not be not be terrified, not be overwhelmed by
Speaker 1: the pressures of the moment, and see where this is
Speaker 1: all really going. So this is something that's very important
Speaker 1: for us. The economy is falling apart right now in
Speaker 1: real time. I don't want to overstate this. I know
Speaker 1: we're already dealing with a lot of anxiety. We already
Speaker 1: have a lot of problems with regard to unemployment. We
Speaker 1: understand that this is going to aspire a lot of
Speaker 1: control very quickly. But the President tweeted this out. We
Speaker 1: cannot let the krebe worse than the problem. It's at
Speaker 1: the end of the fifteen day period, we will make
Speaker 1: a decision as to which way we want to go.
Speaker 1: Okay that when this fifteen day period is over, America's
Speaker 1: got to go back to work. We can't do this.
Speaker 1: We simply cannot do this. It's not feasible. That's why
Speaker 1: when I hear things like Governor Cuomo, who I do
Speaker 1: think is trying to be an adult about this whole situation.
Speaker 1: I think he's being responsible about this whole situation. When
Speaker 1: I hear him say this, I'm disheartened because this is
Speaker 1: not really an option, this is not really a possibility.
Speaker 1: Here's what he says, play clip five. This is not
Speaker 1: a short term situation. This is not a long weekend.
Speaker 1: This is not a week The timeline nobody can tell you.
Speaker 1: It depends on how we handle it. But up to
Speaker 1: eighty percent of the population will wind up getting this virus.
Speaker 1: All we're trying to do is slow the spread, but
Speaker 1: it will spread. It is that contagious again. That's nothing
Speaker 1: to panic over. You saw the numbers, unless you're older
Speaker 1: with an underlying illness, etc. It's something that you're going
Speaker 1: to resolve, but it's going to work its way through.
Speaker 1: Society will manage that capacity rate, but it is going
Speaker 1: to be four months, six months, nine months. You look
Speaker 1: at China once they really change the trajectory, we have
Speaker 1: not done yet eight months. We're in that range. We're
Speaker 1: not in that range because we can't be. And this
Speaker 1: is what the President has woken up to this week.
Speaker 1: People who understand the economy, who understand macroeconomics, or just
Speaker 1: forget about macroeconomics, just common sense. What happens when people,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, after being told they can't they're
Speaker 1: not allowed, legally not allowed. You would be violating a
Speaker 1: state mandate of quarantine if you try to open up
Speaker 1: your bar, open up your small business. What happens when
Speaker 1: those people feel like they're not just losing their businesses,
Speaker 1: they can't feed their families. Twelve hundred dollars check from
Speaker 1: the government here, twelve hundred dollars check from the government there.
Speaker 1: That's not going to do it. That's not going to
Speaker 1: cover everyone's expenses. What happens. Then the government has been
Speaker 1: so reactive to this because I do think that the press,
Speaker 1: and I'm sorry, I wish it were not the case,
Speaker 1: but I do believe that the press is a portion
Speaker 1: of them, are deeply pleased with the notion that now
Speaker 1: Donald Trump faces a crisis that is a real crisis,
Speaker 1: not like Russia collusion, not like the Ukraine phone call
Speaker 1: and the impeachment fiasco and all the other things they
Speaker 1: made up. You know, the emoluments clause and Trump is crazy,
Speaker 1: and Trump sexually assaulted somebody, and a what do you
Speaker 1: call it? A retail store, trying the department stores. We're
Speaker 1: trying to think of all these crazy stories you've heard
Speaker 1: it's all nonsense. Well, this is real, and there's a
Speaker 1: lot there are a lot of people in the press
Speaker 1: who like the fact that now they have a crisis
Speaker 1: that they can bash Trump with. And we'll get into this.
Speaker 1: This is real. I mean, the politics of this are
Speaker 1: becoming very apparent. And I have to tell you, I
Speaker 1: am really sick and tired of people in the media
Speaker 1: and in positions of perception of authority right now, right
Speaker 1: perceived authority, whether it's to give us information or it's
Speaker 1: government officials. I've gotten really sick and tired of them
Speaker 1: saying this isn't political, and then they go on to
Speaker 1: say something grotesquely political, and I'm supposed to sit there
Speaker 1: and go, Okay, well it's not political, so I'll just
Speaker 1: let them keep doing what they're doing. The dishonesty here,
Speaker 1: the lack of seriousness from the left and from the Libs,
Speaker 1: is greatly concerning. It really is. But we have to
Speaker 1: focus on the first order business here. Yeah, of course
Speaker 1: the rescue package is delayed. I'll bring you up to
Speaker 1: speed on that. Nancy Pelosi is a person of no ethics,
Speaker 1: no integrity, no honor. That's not a surprise. Well knew
Speaker 1: that people are suffering. The working class the Democrats pretend
Speaker 1: to care so much about are the ones who are
Speaker 1: suffering the most. They are in true fear for their livelihoods.
Speaker 1: And small business owners are going to watch as everything
Speaker 1: that they've built this appears. Do you think anyone's going
Speaker 1: to write them a check for the restaurant that they
Speaker 1: spent five ten years with their own hands, late nights,
Speaker 1: tough months, scrimping, saving, doing everything they could to try
Speaker 1: to keep it going. And finally they've got a good
Speaker 1: customer base, they've got decent cash flow. You know, maybe
Speaker 1: they're operating on five seven percent profit margin for all
Speaker 1: their all their expenses year and year out, and that
Speaker 1: shuts down. Guess what, the govern's not going to pay
Speaker 1: you for that entity. The best thing that they could
Speaker 1: possibly do is try at this point that they're talking
Speaker 1: about is trying to help you keep payroll going for
Speaker 1: a while, but you still have rent, you still have
Speaker 1: other expenses, and it's just not going to work. We
Speaker 1: all know this. So we've been so focused on is
Speaker 1: this virus going to kill all of us? Basically that's
Speaker 1: really been the perception and the answers. No, it's not
Speaker 1: not even close. If we did absolutely nothing, if we
Speaker 1: were running around high five in kissing each other, are
Speaker 1: on the cheek, constantly gathering in large numbers, going on partying,
Speaker 1: doing what these generations Z people, By the way, don't
Speaker 1: blame this on the millennials, gen Z, I'm watching you
Speaker 1: down on spring break. Millennials now are most of them
Speaker 1: late twenties into their thirties, a lot of them are married,
Speaker 1: a lot of them have kids, gen Z, was I
Speaker 1: don't not letting them pull this gen z were the
Speaker 1: ones that were doing shots of soco and lime and
Speaker 1: Jagermeister down in Clearwater and wherever else. They were gathered
Speaker 1: in Florida until they shut the beaches down there. But
Speaker 1: now as when we start to recognize we can't keep
Speaker 1: doing this, this doesn't work. The government isn't going to
Speaker 1: be able to turn the economy back on because the
Speaker 1: economy is going to be dead. And those who were
Speaker 1: saying fuck this is about protecting life. I saw there
Speaker 1: was a Cuomo line, I think from Friday, but it
Speaker 1: might have been over the weekend, that he'll be happy
Speaker 1: with all these measures if it's just one life. No,
Speaker 1: that's a terrible idea. We accept that there are a
Speaker 1: lot of things that we don't do that would save lives,
Speaker 1: but the cost to the rest of our existence isn't
Speaker 1: worth it. The one that everyone always points to is driving. Right,
Speaker 1: thirty to forty thousand fatalities from driving in the United
Speaker 1: States every year. Okay, but what are we supposed to
Speaker 1: do about that? If we drove at twenty miles an
Speaker 1: hour everywhere, there would probably be a hundreds instead of
Speaker 1: tens of thousands of vehicle fatalities, maybe a few thousand.
Speaker 1: It would cut it down if the speed limit was
Speaker 1: strictly enforced at twenty miles an hour. If somebody went
Speaker 1: over twenty miles an hour, you take their car away.
Speaker 1: You're gonna tell me that's not going to cut down.
Speaker 1: But think about what that would be like to live.
Speaker 1: What would that mean for commerce? What would that mean
Speaker 1: for you getting home, you getting to work, you getting around?
Speaker 1: Those are trade offs. We're going to have to have
Speaker 1: a serious adult American conversation about the tradeoffs here. The
Speaker 1: President has talked about this in the context of it
Speaker 1: being a war, and I think that's a useful way
Speaker 1: to speak about this. But we must remember that in
Speaker 1: wars there are casualties, and I know we're already taking
Speaker 1: some and every loved one that we lose. You know,
Speaker 1: for every family where someone dives from virus, hits a tragedy.
Speaker 1: But we also have to understand that for every family
Speaker 1: where someone dies flu from H one and one from
Speaker 1: heart failure, from cancer, from accidents in and around the home,
Speaker 1: those are all tragedies too, just as tragic. We seem
Speaker 1: to have frightened ourselves into a corner here, or we
Speaker 1: think we have to do everything in anything, because we
Speaker 1: have to make sure that there is a bare minimum
Speaker 1: risk from this instead of a manageable risk from this.
Speaker 1: Those are not the same thing. If we try this
Speaker 1: bare minimum risk approach, we risk and we don't risk.
Speaker 1: If we continue with this bare minimum risk approach, we're
Speaker 1: going to destroy the United States economy and with it
Speaker 1: there'll be civil disorder, riots in the streets, mass non compliance,
Speaker 1: class warfare that actually starts to look like warfare. This
Speaker 1: is going to get really ugly, and people's livelihoods, intergenerational
Speaker 1: economic destruction, all of this will occur, and it's really
Speaker 1: almost a near certainty if we continue on this current path.
Speaker 1: The government is just running on money created by us.
Speaker 1: The only reason the United States government is the powerhouse
Speaker 1: it is is because of us economic activity. Right any
Speaker 1: country can print money. The reason American money is so
Speaker 1: valuable is because of the assets, the ingenuity, the capital,
Speaker 1: human and otherwise. All of the United States of America
Speaker 1: are industry, our commerce, our capitalism, our system. This is
Speaker 1: why people trust us to pay our bills, this is
Speaker 1: why we're the reserve currency, and we're now at risk
Speaker 1: if we continue doing this, not just on the civil
Speaker 1: disorder side, which I think is very apparent. We're also
Speaker 1: effectively going to be running an experiment that would run
Speaker 1: close to what you call modern monetary theory. I've talked
Speaker 1: to you about this before. This is the AOC far
Speaker 1: left wing Bernie Sanders economic advisor approach to an economy.
Speaker 1: Don't worry, just write the check. Doesn't matter how big
Speaker 1: it is, doesn't matter how bigger deficit is. Whatever you want,
Speaker 1: whatever you think is a social good, right to check
Speaker 1: for it, figure it out later. Just trying to manage
Speaker 1: just quote, trying to manage inflation unquote right, that's what
Speaker 1: they'll say. This is a way. The problem with inflation
Speaker 1: is that usually when it sets in, it's very hard
Speaker 1: for governments to deal with. And if inflation gets bad
Speaker 1: quickly because the market is speaking, not just because policymakers
Speaker 1: are saying one thing or another, guess what, then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden you could have the complete annihilation of
Speaker 1: an economy, which has happened in countries. We've seen this happened.
Speaker 1: People who's talking about why mar Republic in Germany. You
Speaker 1: look at Zimbabwe, look at what's going on in Venezuela.
Speaker 1: These economies effectively barely exist. I mean they're back to
Speaker 1: almost trade and barter because of what's been done to
Speaker 1: their currency. We're going to start spending a trillion dollars here,
Speaker 1: a trillion dollars there, on top of twenty two trillion
Speaker 1: dollars of debt. The people who have been worried about
Speaker 1: US debt being too high for decades, you were all correct.
Speaker 1: You've always been correct. How many times have I said,
Speaker 1: in short segments on this show in the last year,
Speaker 1: those of you who have really been with me here
Speaker 1: in the Hut, day in and day out, how many
Speaker 1: times I said, Look, no one wants, no one cares,
Speaker 1: but the debt's too high, and we all know it.
Speaker 1: No one cares though things are good. I'm just telling
Speaker 1: you it's too high, and I know people don't want
Speaker 1: to hear about it. Well, now everyone's saying, wow, it
Speaker 1: was kind of fiscally irresponsible to spend a trillion dollars
Speaker 1: when the economy was a trillion dollars more than we
Speaker 1: were taking in to run up the debt by a
Speaker 1: trillion dollars a year. That was fiscally responsible when things
Speaker 1: were rocking in the economy was great, and it was,
Speaker 1: but nobody wanted to hear it. Nobody wants to believe
Speaker 1: there's no Santa Claus, especially when they're politicians, to say,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I'm Santa Claus. The Democrats. We can't keep
Speaker 1: doing what we are doing right now for long. Maybe
Speaker 1: maybe we could stretch this out into the next month,
Speaker 1: maybe the middle of April, but right around what used
Speaker 1: to be known as tax Day now it's been pushing
Speaker 1: in July fifteenth, right around the middle of April. If
Speaker 1: we have this complete shutdown of business in place, we
Speaker 1: are looking at national we are looking at a national
Speaker 1: economic suicide. We are heading for great depression. To a
Speaker 1: thirty percent jobless rate is on the horizon. That's unsustainable
Speaker 1: even in the short term. Can't do it. We have
Speaker 1: been through pandemics before, we have been through wars before.
Speaker 1: I think we've gotten very comfortable in American in this society,
Speaker 1: thinking that we'll never have to make the tough choices again.
Speaker 1: A tough choice is telling people to stay home. You know,
Speaker 1: it's a really tough choice telling people that we're going
Speaker 1: to put some measures in place, but we are going
Speaker 1: to go to work and we're going to lose people
Speaker 1: to this virus. But we're also not going to allow
Speaker 1: the country to completely collapse. That is a really tough
Speaker 1: choice that will require real leadership, and we have to
Speaker 1: push them right now to do that. You're in the
Speaker 1: Freedom Hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. I
Speaker 1: think it's part of my duty not just to inform
Speaker 1: you about what's going on right now in the midst
Speaker 1: of this true national crisis. I also think I need
Speaker 1: to make the argument here, need to make the case
Speaker 1: about why we can't continue these measures. And I understand
Speaker 1: there will be costs. I understand this is going to
Speaker 1: be very difficult, but I want to make the case today,
Speaker 1: in this week. Why we're in week two of the
Speaker 1: fifteen days, this is it. After this, we still practice
Speaker 1: some sensible social distancing. We still take measures to protect
Speaker 1: our vulnerable population, no question about it, tremendous expenditure of
Speaker 1: resources at the personal and all throughout government level to
Speaker 1: protect those who are the more vulnerable population. But a
Speaker 1: lot of the rest of us need to be told
Speaker 1: if you want to go in and work and you
Speaker 1: want to try to conduct normal business, you are allowed
Speaker 1: to do it, even though you are aware of the risks,
Speaker 1: and there will be risks. Then we will lose people.
Speaker 1: But as I've been saying, if this is a war,
Speaker 1: we should expect that there will be losses. Then we
Speaker 1: need to make policy based on what is best for
Speaker 1: all of us, not what is best for eliminating risk,
Speaker 1: because we can never do that. Thanks for listening to
Speaker 1: The Bus Sesson Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts,
Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. I
Speaker 1: want America to understand this week, it's going to get
Speaker 1: bad and we really need to come together as a nation.
Speaker 1: I heard the stories that you were just playing young
Speaker 1: people out on beaches. We see here in DC that
Speaker 1: the district set up a cam for people to watch
Speaker 1: the cherry blossoms. If you look on the cam, you
Speaker 1: see more people walking around than you see cherry blossoms.
Speaker 1: And this is how the spread is occurring. And so
Speaker 1: we really, really, I think that there are a lot
Speaker 1: of people who are doing the right things, but I
Speaker 1: think that unfortunately we're finding out a lot of people
Speaker 1: think this can't happen to them when you look at
Speaker 1: what's going on in New York. And we said this
Speaker 1: at the beginning of our fifteen Days to Stop the
Speaker 1: Spread initiative, that the numbers you see reflect what happens
Speaker 1: two weeks ago. We don't want Dallas or New Orleans
Speaker 1: or Chicago to turn into the next New York. And
Speaker 1: it means everyone needs to be taking the right steps
Speaker 1: right now. And that means stay at home, okay for
Speaker 1: two weeks. It's in doing enormous damage already the economy.
Speaker 1: Let's understand that even even with a two week policy
Speaker 1: in place like this of lockdown, we are risking massive
Speaker 1: economic damage. And I want to tell you about that,
Speaker 1: so we all understand we're heading right now. The estimates
Speaker 1: are we're heading for a thirty percent joblessness rate if
Speaker 1: we stay on this current course. Thirty percent. Anybody want
Speaker 1: to guess what the jobless rate was in the Great
Speaker 1: Depression twenty five percent. I don't even really think that
Speaker 1: we're going to be able to snap back out of this.
Speaker 1: We did not in nineteen eighteen have a total secession
Speaker 1: of all activity in response to this, and then we
Speaker 1: did historically. Just go back and look what happened after
Speaker 1: nineteen eighteen nineteen nineteen, a period in America known as
Speaker 1: the Roaring twenties. Tremendous growth, prosperity, relative peace didn't last
Speaker 1: too long overall, But the twenties were good. That's what happened,
Speaker 1: and we lost millions of Americans in that circumstance. Now,
Speaker 1: I understand millions of Americans right now. That would seem
Speaker 1: to be too high a cost for anyone to bear.
Speaker 1: But we have a much better healthcare system now than
Speaker 1: we did then. We have much better treatments in general,
Speaker 1: meaning ventilators, you know, much better procedures in place, perhaps
Speaker 1: is the way to say it, than we did in
Speaker 1: nineteen eighteen to help people that had interstitial pneumonia, which
Speaker 1: is a very scary thing, and I understand that comes
Speaker 1: with a lot of the very dangerous cases of this,
Speaker 1: but we don't really have data to support the annihilation
Speaker 1: of the US economy. By the way, I am going
Speaker 1: to take the Democrats to task for what they've done
Speaker 1: here with holding up this aid bill that everyone agrees
Speaker 1: is needed. The Democrat the Democrat Party is a disgrace.
Speaker 1: I mean, they are true national hostage takers. Pelosi and
Speaker 1: Schumer are unethical, scummy, disgraceful people. I will get there,
Speaker 1: but I want to focus to start out with on
Speaker 1: right now, this key decision making the calculation about what
Speaker 1: is acceptable for us in terms of losses and what
Speaker 1: we need to do in order to get the economy
Speaker 1: running again. By the way, the economy is not going
Speaker 1: to be off to a gallop. That's not going to happen.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, we need to get some stuff going here.
Speaker 1: We need to get businesses moving to the degree that
Speaker 1: we can, because otherwise there's not going to be an
Speaker 1: economy to restart. Keeping this shutdown going as is much
Speaker 1: longer than this week. And I've given member I said,
Speaker 1: the fifteen days. Fine, that's what they say they need
Speaker 1: to get ready for this. Fifteen days that does That's
Speaker 1: not four months, it's not even thirty days. So the President,
Speaker 1: I think understands us. He knows the status quo cannot hold.
Speaker 1: I am seeing all these messages from people and hearing
Speaker 1: from people everywhere that they're going to lose everything. People
Speaker 1: put their hearts, their lives, their heart and soul, everything
Speaker 1: into building a career, building a business, saving up some money,
Speaker 1: trying to make sure they're up with their bills. What
Speaker 1: happens now, the confederal Government's not going to make anybody
Speaker 1: whole whose business is gone. It's not going to happen.
Speaker 1: You can't just rehire all the people that have been
Speaker 1: fired as businesses have closed down. Think about all the
Speaker 1: time it'll just take to untangle the insurance claims they
Speaker 1: are going to come out of this. All the lawyered
Speaker 1: up bureaucratic minut show that this is going to go.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just going to be a mess, a mess,
Speaker 1: and America is going to have to go to work
Speaker 1: very soon. Because even if that means there are more
Speaker 1: casualties from COVID nineteen than would occur into this continued
Speaker 1: extreme shutdown, it doesn't matter. And this is a hard
Speaker 1: thing to say, but it is reality and we need
Speaker 1: to accept it and act on it. Now. I could
Speaker 1: die from COVID nineteen. Anyone listening to this could also
Speaker 1: die from COVID nineteen. And no matter what the government does,
Speaker 1: that is not going to change. We are simply trying
Speaker 1: to deal with risk, risk management, which bureaucracies are notoriously
Speaker 1: that at doing. And a lot of that risk management
Speaker 1: is on an individual level. What are you willing to do?
Speaker 1: What do you think is safe for you? Now? Part
Speaker 1: of that risk management has to be what does the
Speaker 1: country look like if we just go into this this
Speaker 1: state of hibernation. I mean, this is economic hibernation, and
Speaker 1: then we try to revive ourselves in three months or
Speaker 1: six months. Now, I do think that the warmer period
Speaker 1: ahead will be a godsend, and that alone based on
Speaker 1: what we see, and experts are saying this too, so
Speaker 1: I'll be like, fuck, you're not an epidemiologist. I'm reading
Speaker 1: people who all they do is study this, and they're saying, Look,
Speaker 1: it would be strange if there was not a dramatic
Speaker 1: slowdown in this virus just from the change in seasonal temperature.
Speaker 1: But when you see things like this, I mean, you've
Speaker 1: got GDP predictions for the second quarter, according to Goldman Sachs,
Speaker 1: range from horrible down eight percent to catastrophic down fifteen percent.
Speaker 1: But Goldman Sachs actually just came out with a new
Speaker 1: research note this week. Now you might say, oh, Goldben Sacks, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they're trying to assess what's happening to people's money.
Speaker 1: Trust me, Goldman Sachs cares about money. A research note
Speaker 1: with a project projection for GDP loss in the second
Speaker 1: quarter of twenty twenty suggest Golden Sacks believes that the
Speaker 1: United States GDP will be down twenty four percent. We
Speaker 1: can't do this. We can't do this. We can't do
Speaker 1: that because even if you look at the possibility of
Speaker 1: hundreds and remember we've only lost in total right now
Speaker 1: in the United States, while we're in the hundreds of
Speaker 1: people who have been killed by this virus. If we
Speaker 1: lost hundreds of thousands of people from this, it would
Speaker 1: be similar to a very bad flu season, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: if we lost let say, one hundred thousand people. You've
Speaker 1: had up to sixty seventy thousand from the flu, and
Speaker 1: no one even really talked much about it, and h
Speaker 1: one n one infected tens of millions, and people say,
Speaker 1: don't be a flu truther, not a flu truth We're
Speaker 1: trying to assess real risk here. You can go out
Speaker 1: and get the flu during flu season in particularly, you
Speaker 1: can go out and get the flu and come home.
Speaker 1: And that's all she wrote. No matter who you are,
Speaker 1: it can shut down your system. If you catch a
Speaker 1: bad flu, you can die from it. Fact, do you
Speaker 1: not leave your home? Do you insist that no one
Speaker 1: else leave their home? Do you have the government telling
Speaker 1: you that, WHOA, we can't have the loss of fifty
Speaker 1: thousand people this year from flu? So no one's allowed
Speaker 1: to do anything. That's what we're doing right now. And
Speaker 1: I understand I've seen all the scary stuff about it, LA.
Speaker 1: I've seen, yeah, but we have two weeks of preparation
Speaker 1: here to get masks in everything in place. We have
Speaker 1: had social distancing. People are taking it in many places
Speaker 1: more seriously. I'm here in the epicenter, by the way,
Speaker 1: I'm here in New York City, which has by far
Speaker 1: the greatest concentration of cases a New York state, because
Speaker 1: of New York City is a state that is worst
Speaker 1: has been the worst hit by this. I mean cases
Speaker 1: in New York twenty eight hundred and seventy five, one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty seven. We've had four hundred and sixty
Speaker 1: three total deaths from this so far. We've had more
Speaker 1: people die while this has been going on. We've had
Speaker 1: more people die from the flu than I've died from this.
Speaker 1: That's the fact, meaning that while COVID has been spreading
Speaker 1: the United States, more people have died from flu. Now
Speaker 1: people can say, oh, it's worse than the flu and
Speaker 1: higher mortality. Those people don't know what the mortality is.
Speaker 1: Stop with the panic. We we have to present facts
Speaker 1: and rationality here. We can't do this based on emotion.
Speaker 1: No one wants anyone to die of any disease in
Speaker 1: this country, but trying to ensure an almost zero risk
Speaker 1: factor for people could create much worse risks for everybody,
Speaker 1: systemic risks. Think about how many people die from suicide
Speaker 1: from untreated illness because the medical system will be a
Speaker 1: fraction of what it used to be, because people will
Speaker 1: be out of work. Who makes the masks, who makes
Speaker 1: the ventilators, all the things that are doctors and God
Speaker 1: bless our doctors, nurses, first responders, everybody who's on the
Speaker 1: front lines of this, but all the tools that they
Speaker 1: use to fight against us come from the private sector,
Speaker 1: comes from commerce and business and industry. We need those
Speaker 1: things to keep working, or else we're not going to
Speaker 1: have a medical sector to speak of. We're not going
Speaker 1: to be able to fight against other diseases too. So
Speaker 1: this is why I think it's so important right now
Speaker 1: that we all understand there needs to be a shift
Speaker 1: in the national mindset on this. We need people to
Speaker 1: be able to go back to work. We need social
Speaker 1: distancing to be a standard. We need elderly populations and
Speaker 1: those with compromise immune systems to be on lockdown. But
Speaker 1: the government has to wake up. This is not an option.
Speaker 1: What they think is an option. Three months, six months,
Speaker 1: nine month is not an option. It's catastrophe. And we're
Speaker 1: still going to have a lot of people get sick
Speaker 1: and still gonna have a lot of people die from
Speaker 1: from COVID nineteen. No matter what, it's not going to change.
Speaker 1: So we really just have to look at what is acceptable,
Speaker 1: and at some point that's going to be having a
Speaker 1: conversation about usualties, just as you would in any war.
Speaker 1: A war isn't worth fighting for, you know, you talk
Speaker 1: about a war of self defense, even a war of
Speaker 1: self defense. At a certain point, if your casualties are
Speaker 1: too high, you'll just capitulate. Fine, the other side wins.
Speaker 1: That's what ends up happening in a war. Right now,
Speaker 1: we can't capitulate against a virus. But in any wartime scenario,
Speaker 1: you're looking at the number of casualties and you're making
Speaker 1: decisions and assessments understanding that there will be casualties that's
Speaker 1: going to happen, and you're trying to just assess what
Speaker 1: are acceptable numbers of that we are going to suffer
Speaker 1: casualties from COVID nineteen. We already have suffered a few hundred,
Speaker 1: which I'm going to walk you through the numbers on this,
Speaker 1: and I think you'll see. And not from me, this
Speaker 1: is from an epidemiologist at Stanford University School of Medicine,
Speaker 1: one of the premier medical schools in the country, in
Speaker 1: the world, and I'll walk you through point by point
Speaker 1: what he is saying about this, because I think we
Speaker 1: have the we are over we are overreacting. If we
Speaker 1: extend this shutdown of business beyond this week. That's where
Speaker 1: I am. And all I do is think about this.
Speaker 1: All I do is read about this, talk to the
Speaker 1: smartest people I know, and I'm just not seeing the
Speaker 1: case for this continued shutdown. I'm not seeing the case
Speaker 1: for this to extend beyond where we already are. And
Speaker 1: I am really you know, I'm not terrified of us
Speaker 1: against coronavirus. We'll win, We'll get through it. I do
Speaker 1: get scared when we start to see the government thinking, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have extra judicial detainment authority, which there are
Speaker 1: reports that are asking for in certain circumstances regarding quarantine,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna shut down businesses We're going to deploy
Speaker 1: you know, government resources of force, police, deputizing people at
Speaker 1: the state level, making sure that all these mandates are enforced,
Speaker 1: that you know, GPS tracking of individuals with this starts
Speaker 1: to get scary real quick. And the thing that scared
Speaker 1: me than this virus is the government mishandling this and
Speaker 1: destroying the entire United States economy and taking the constitution
Speaker 1: down with it. That's now the enemy that we face
Speaker 1: in addition to the virus. You're in the Freedom Hunt.
Speaker 1: This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. I was in
Speaker 1: New York City yesterday. It was a pretty day. There
Speaker 1: is a density level in New York City that is
Speaker 1: wholly inappropriate. You would think there was nothing going on
Speaker 1: in parts of New York City. You would think it
Speaker 1: was just a brighton sunny Saturday. I don't know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying that people don't get. I'm normally accused of
Speaker 1: being overly blunt and director, and I take that it's true.
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're not understanding. This is not
Speaker 1: life as usual. None of this is life as usual.
Speaker 1: And this kind of density. We talked about social distancing.
Speaker 1: I was in these parks. You would not you would
Speaker 1: not know that anything was going on. This is just
Speaker 1: a mistake. It's a MISTAKEE. It's insensitive, it's arrogant, it's
Speaker 1: self destructive, it's disrespectful to other people. And it has
Speaker 1: to stop, and it has to stop now. Now. I
Speaker 1: can't speak to what Cuomo saw in parks, but I
Speaker 1: can speak to being out in New York yesterday walking
Speaker 1: on the street, which you are allowed to do. I
Speaker 1: was walking the dog to Lula. It's very cute. She
Speaker 1: knows something's up to she knows the humans do not
Speaker 1: seem to be in good moods these days. But I
Speaker 1: took her on a walk all through some of the
Speaker 1: most from Midtown down to what you consider to be
Speaker 1: the start of Flat Iron, which is before the village
Speaker 1: in New York City. These are I'm bringing it up
Speaker 1: just because these are the most densely packed parts of
Speaker 1: New York. Usually there's a ghost town. There's nobody in
Speaker 1: the streets. I walk through areas that would usually be
Speaker 1: just bumping with people out to brunch and bars and
Speaker 1: you know, watching the game. I know there's no games
Speaker 1: right now. I went to Madison Square Park, one of
Speaker 1: my favorite parks in New York, formerly where Madison Square Garden,
Speaker 1: the place where the Knicks and the Rangers play used
Speaker 1: to be. And I went to check this out, and
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, yeah, there were some people on the streets,
Speaker 1: but it was not packed. And what I saw was
Speaker 1: a lot of businesses shut down that they rely on
Speaker 1: people coming in on Sundays to buy things, to get food,
Speaker 1: to just engage in commerce. Shutdowns everywhere all of the
Speaker 1: city because the initial guidance about the mandate about this
Speaker 1: went into effect. So I can't speak to what's going
Speaker 1: on in Prospect Park out in Brooklyn or whatever, but
Speaker 1: I can speak to this is really scary. I mean,
Speaker 1: the city should not be shut down in this way
Speaker 1: for long because it's not going to survive it. And
Speaker 1: I know that for a lot of you are like, oh, buck,
Speaker 1: this isn't really this doesn't really affect us out here.
Speaker 1: There are going to be more outbreaks in other states,
Speaker 1: and they're going to be clusters of this, so you
Speaker 1: never know when this is going to hit. But also
Speaker 1: understand that, you know, if things get bad enough in
Speaker 1: New York City, that has an effect not just on
Speaker 1: the national economy, but also people are going to start
Speaker 1: trying to leave New York to go to other places,
Speaker 1: and what are we going to have? Then? You know
Speaker 1: people are gonna want to go. They've already been doing this,
Speaker 1: They're already been trying to find places to seek refuge
Speaker 1: in other states, you know, Vermont, Hampshire, more rural parts
Speaker 1: of Connecticut. So that's already happening. If New York starts
Speaker 1: to get out of control of guess what, you're going
Speaker 1: to have people that are trying to do everything they
Speaker 1: can to leave. What are gonna do. You're gonna tell them,
Speaker 1: no cars in the roads, no one's allowed to go anywhere.
Speaker 1: So I didn't see that the New York that Cuomo did. There.
Speaker 1: I saw one that's on. I saw New York City
Speaker 1: on life support this weekend, on a beautiful spring weekend.
Speaker 1: Life support. That's what I saw. Thanks for listening to
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Speaker 1: We have to help the American worker. We have to
Speaker 1: help the countries from which the American workers. I mean
Speaker 1: they came out of these companies. They were doing phenomenally well.
Speaker 1: You see where payroll was going way up where wages
Speaker 1: were going way way up. There's never been a time
Speaker 1: like this. We can't lose those companies, and we want
Speaker 1: the worker to be happy, and we're being I think,
Speaker 1: more generous than anybody's ever been. We want to take
Speaker 1: care of the worker, but we want to make sure
Speaker 1: that when we win the war, it's only a question
Speaker 1: of it's when, not if. When we win the war
Speaker 1: against the virus, we want to make sure those companies
Speaker 1: are ready to charge forward, not that they've been disbanded
Speaker 1: because we were pennywise and dollar foolish. They're trying to
Speaker 1: keep businesses open as long as they can by sending
Speaker 1: them checks. That's the idea. The federal government's going to
Speaker 1: try to give them money I will get into the
Speaker 1: response package, and the Democrats efforts to just leverage it
Speaker 1: at the eleventh hour for maximum part as in political benefit.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's an abject disgrace. It's absolutely disgusting what's
Speaker 1: going on. But here first, I want to walk you
Speaker 1: through this analysis from Professor John Ianidis, who has put
Speaker 1: a piece out. We are making decisions without reliable data. Now,
Speaker 1: this guy is professor of medicine and professor of Epidemiology
Speaker 1: and Population Health at Stanford University School of Medicine. And
Speaker 1: he's not alone in this thinking, but I mean he's
Speaker 1: he's as credential the person as you're going to find
Speaker 1: on this topic, basically, and here's what he said. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is my point. And by the way, I'm also
Speaker 1: I'm now getting attacked by the left for saying that
Speaker 1: we have to go back to work, even if it
Speaker 1: means that we would suffer a higher casualty rate than
Speaker 1: a multi month lockdown. And their homny deaths are okay.
Speaker 1: These people are morons, their disgrace, and they don't understand
Speaker 1: that we make these decisions just as I was telling
Speaker 1: the last time, we make policy decisions where we know
Speaker 1: they'll be casualties all the time. We are heading into
Speaker 1: a great depression unless we stop this. We cannot keep
Speaker 1: doing this. I know everyone's all scared and they're terrified.
Speaker 1: They're petrified. We are heading into a great depression unless
Speaker 1: we stop this. So that's the President's basically said as much.
Speaker 1: But I'm getting the sense that there are some people
Speaker 1: who think that they're going to stop him from doing
Speaker 1: They're going at the state level, they're gonna keep this
Speaker 1: going or they're going to manage to convince the President
Speaker 1: that we need to have this forever. Let me go
Speaker 1: back to what is the real risk here? What is
Speaker 1: the real what is the real data? Say? And here's
Speaker 1: what you get. Professor John Unitis has the following to
Speaker 1: add to this. The data, the data collected so far
Speaker 1: on how many people are infected and how the epidemic
Speaker 1: is evolving are utterly unreliable. Given the limited testing to date,
Speaker 1: some deaths and probably the vast majority of infections due
Speaker 1: to SARS cove two are being missed. We don't know
Speaker 1: if we are failing to capture infections by a factor
Speaker 1: of three or three hundred three months after the outbreak emerged.
Speaker 1: Most countries, including the US, lack the ability to test
Speaker 1: a large number of people, and no countries have reliable
Speaker 1: data on the prevalence of the virus and representative random
Speaker 1: sample of the general population. So we don't know. We
Speaker 1: don't know what the mortality rate is, We don't know
Speaker 1: how many infections there are out there, not even close
Speaker 1: to how many infections are out there. And one of
Speaker 1: the major reasons that I've been saying this along for
Speaker 1: the overreaction has been. People assume that we have a
Speaker 1: fatality rate that's at least ten times some are initially
Speaker 1: setting I think more like fifty times what you have
Speaker 1: for the flu. Well, that scares people understandably, But we
Speaker 1: have a case study here where you have effectively almost
Speaker 1: a control that it's not a controlled experiment, but a
Speaker 1: contained environment for an experiment in real time. The Diamond
Speaker 1: Princess case study. The one situation where an entire closed
Speaker 1: population was tested was the Diamond Princess cruise ship and
Speaker 1: its quarantine passengers. This is all from this piece by
Speaker 1: the professor at Stanford. The case fatality rate there was
Speaker 1: one percent, but this was a largely elderly population in
Speaker 1: which the death rate from COVID nineteen is much higher.
Speaker 1: Projecting the Diamond Princess mortality rate onto the age structure
Speaker 1: of the US population, the death rate among people infected
Speaker 1: with COVID nineteen would be point one two five ent.
Speaker 1: But since this estimate is based on extremely thin data
Speaker 1: there were just seven deaths among the seven hundred infected
Speaker 1: passengers and crew, the real death rate could stretch from
Speaker 1: five times lower point zero to five percent to five
Speaker 1: times higher point six to five percent It is also
Speaker 1: possible that some of the passengers who were infected might
Speaker 1: die later, and that tourists may have different frequencies of
Speaker 1: chronic diseases, a risk factor for worse outcomes with SARS
Speaker 1: cove to infection than the general population. Adding these extra
Speaker 1: sources of uncertainty, reasonable estimates for the case fatality ratio
Speaker 1: in the general US population vary from point zero five
Speaker 1: percent to one percent. That huge range markedly affects how
Speaker 1: severe the pandemic is and what should be done. A
Speaker 1: population of point zero five percent rather to one percent,
Speaker 1: a population wide case fatality rate of point zero five
Speaker 1: sin is lower than seasonal influenza. If that is the
Speaker 1: true rate, locking down the world with potentially tremendous social
Speaker 1: and financial consequences may be totally irrational. It's like an
Speaker 1: elephant being attacked by a house cat. Frustrated and trying
Speaker 1: to avoid the cat, the elephant accidentally jumps off a
Speaker 1: cliff and dies. This is what I am trying to say,
Speaker 1: And by the way, I mean, I'm being attack now
Speaker 1: on social media, on Twitter and else where. Are just
Speaker 1: just psychotically by the left for making exactly this point.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Look, we have to go back to work,
Speaker 1: even if it means that there would be a greater
Speaker 1: incidence of infection, and with that there will be a
Speaker 1: greater loss of life than if we continue in complete
Speaker 1: lockdown mode for I don't know six months, but we can't.
Speaker 1: The country can't sustain, and people will their lives will
Speaker 1: be ruining, people will die. That's what's going to happen
Speaker 1: from the depression that will come from this. And I
Speaker 1: feel like some especially these like work from home journo types,
Speaker 1: you know, and people that are in the information economy
Speaker 1: and they're used to teleworking, and they feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: they've got savings for six months or a year. They
Speaker 1: seem to think this isn't that big a deal. We
Speaker 1: are on the precipice of really scary stuff if this continues.
Speaker 1: And I look, I know me, I'm not trying to fearmonger,
Speaker 1: but I feel like, Okay, now we take the virus seriously,
Speaker 1: we need to take the possibility of a depression seriously too.
Speaker 1: He continues, by the way, with this analysis, which I
Speaker 1: think is essential for everybody to know. Could the COVID
Speaker 1: nineteen case fatality rate be that low? No, some say,
Speaker 1: pointing to the high rate and elderly people people. However,
Speaker 1: even some so called mild or common cold type coronaviruses
Speaker 1: that have been known for decades can have a case
Speaker 1: fatality rate as high as eight percent when they infect
Speaker 1: elderly people in nursing homes. In fact, such mild coronaviruses
Speaker 1: infect tens of millions of people every year and account
Speaker 1: for three to eleven percent of those hospitalized in the
Speaker 1: US with lower respiratory infections each winter. So what he's
Speaker 1: saying here is that even you know, among the elderly population,
Speaker 1: coronaviruses that are more similar to a common coal not
Speaker 1: this coronavir not COVID nineteen, but other coronaviruses. It's known
Speaker 1: for a long time if they get into the elderly population,
Speaker 1: they can kill as many as eight percent of the elderly.
Speaker 1: So he says, these mild corona. Remember this is a
Speaker 1: professor of disease and epidemiology at Stanford Medical School. This
Speaker 1: is all he does. This is his entire life's work
Speaker 1: has been on this issue. He's saying that among the elderly,
Speaker 1: you could have an eight percent fatality rate for a
Speaker 1: standard coronavirus not COVID nineteen. He also so he's saying
Speaker 1: that not only is that a higher rate than a
Speaker 1: lot of people are talking about, now, he's saying, COVID
Speaker 1: viruses kill people all the time. We have no idea
Speaker 1: what the true number is. I'm sorry, coronaviruses, not covid viruses, coronaviruses.
Speaker 1: Here's where he gives you some details on this. In
Speaker 1: an autopsy series that tested for respiratory viruses and specimens
Speaker 1: from fifty seven elderly persons who die during the twenty
Speaker 1: sixteen to twenty seventeen influenza season. Influenza viruses were detected
Speaker 1: in eighteen percent of the specimens, while any kind of
Speaker 1: respiratory virus was found in forty seven percent. In some
Speaker 1: people who die. In some people who die from viral
Speaker 1: respiratory pathogens, more than one virus is found upon autopsy,
Speaker 1: and bacteria are often superimposed. A positive test for coronavirus
Speaker 1: does not mean necessarily that this virus is always primarily
Speaker 1: responsible for a patient's demise. So this then goes again
Speaker 1: to we don't even know. Just because somebody has coronavirus
Speaker 1: when they die, it doesn't even mean that that necessarily
Speaker 1: is the reason for that death? Based upon what we
Speaker 1: see from looking at the twenty sixteen twenty seven flu season,
Speaker 1: where there can be a number of a number of
Speaker 1: factors and a number of different viruses at play at
Speaker 1: any point in time, what is the mortality rate? If
Speaker 1: we assume the case fatality rate among individuals infected by
Speaker 1: sarus curve two is point three percent in the general
Speaker 1: population a mid range guests from the Diamond Princess analysis,
Speaker 1: and that one percent of the US population gets infected,
Speaker 1: about three point three million people, This would translate to
Speaker 1: about ten thousand deaths. This sounds like a huge number,
Speaker 1: but it is buried within the noise of the estimates
Speaker 1: of death from influenza alike illness. If we had not
Speaker 1: known about a new virus out there and had not
Speaker 1: checked individuals with PCR tests, the total number of new
Speaker 1: deaths due to influenza alike illness would not seem unusual
Speaker 1: this year. Are we sure that flattening the curve is
Speaker 1: that much better? As another point than he raises, if
Speaker 1: the health system does become overwhelmed, the majority the extra
Speaker 1: deaths may not be due to coronavirus, but to other
Speaker 1: common diseases and conditions such as heart attack, strokes, traum
Speaker 1: and bleeding. If the level of the epidemic does overwhelm
Speaker 1: the health system, extreme measures have only modest effectiveness. Flattening
Speaker 1: the curve may make things worse. Instead of being overwhelmed
Speaker 1: during a short acute phase, the health system will remain
Speaker 1: overwhelmed for a more protracted period. That's another reason we
Speaker 1: need to think about the exact level of activity. And
Speaker 1: then he basically says that, and this is what I've
Speaker 1: been saying. This could lead to riots, this could even
Speaker 1: lead again. I'm not trying to be alarm ast, folks.
Speaker 1: We're gonna be okay. I know that today I'm a
Speaker 1: little more dark on this topic than I've been in
Speaker 1: a while. But I'm seeing that, you know, the economic
Speaker 1: data doesn't lie. I mean, there's a graph going around
Speaker 1: right now about unemployment and unemployment after two thousand, after
Speaker 1: the two thousand and eight crisis, or during the two
Speaker 1: thousand and eight financial crisis, versus unemployment now. And yeah,
Speaker 1: that's where we are. We're seeing I think six hundred
Speaker 1: thousand was a number that I saw in this graph,
Speaker 1: and one week it's astonishing. The unemployment spike. I mean
Speaker 1: it's it's a graph, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: there's this huge hockey stick like projection that just goes
Speaker 1: straight up for unemployment, and we're what in week two
Speaker 1: of the extreme shutdown measures. He also says when we
Speaker 1: could we could end up making this, meaning that government
Speaker 1: could end up making this worse than the nineteen eighteen
Speaker 1: influence a pandemic. With lockdowns of months, if not years,
Speaker 1: life largely stops. Short term and long term consequences are
Speaker 1: entirely unknown, and billions, not just millions of lives maybe
Speaker 1: eventually at stake. One can only hope that much like
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighteen, life will continue. Conversely, with lockdowns of months,
Speaker 1: if not years, life largely stops. The long term consequences
Speaker 1: of this could end up killing more people. That's where
Speaker 1: we are and that's the reality. So everyone needs to
Speaker 1: wake up to that right now. And that means that
Speaker 1: trying to limit the risk to as close to zero
Speaker 1: as possible of people getting this that's going to become counterproductive.
Speaker 1: We're going to reach a point at which that's no
Speaker 1: longer possible. I'm not saying we're there already. I've said
Speaker 1: fifteen days fine, but this is where the situation stands
Speaker 1: right now. We have to get America back to work,
Speaker 1: not in months, in weeks, and really within two weeks,
Speaker 1: I think is the goal should be. That doesn't mean
Speaker 1: that there's not social distancing. It doesn't mean that we
Speaker 1: don't do a lot of things wash the hands, protect
Speaker 1: the vulnerable elderly population, those individuals, people that are more
Speaker 1: vulnerable should be given additional special resources and protections. And
Speaker 1: we all understand everyone is paying attention to what's going
Speaker 1: on in this country that we need to protect our
Speaker 1: vulnerable populations. But that's where we are. We have to
Speaker 1: do something to get the economy going again, or else
Speaker 1: that is going to become a bigger threat to this
Speaker 1: country than this virus. That's where we are right now,
Speaker 1: according to experts who are looking at it. I don't
Speaker 1: know what else to say. I'm just trying to spread
Speaker 1: what I think is the most necessary information for decision making.
Speaker 1: Right now. You're in the freedom hunt. This is the
Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show podcast. Do you think it'll be wrapped
Speaker 1: up by Monday? Well, I hope it is. Where I'm
Speaker 1: having good bipartisan agreements. The initial bill leader McConnell put
Speaker 1: In didn't have any Democratic input, and we were worried
Speaker 1: they would just try to put it on the floor
Speaker 1: and not consultant Speaker Pelosi because the House still has
Speaker 1: to pass this. But actually, to my delight and surprise,
Speaker 1: there has been a great deal of bipartisan cooperation thus far. Yeah,
Speaker 1: even the President was speaking very positively about you, and
Speaker 1: hasn't happened very often, even Speaker Pelosi. And what was
Speaker 1: the thanks that the President got for that and other
Speaker 1: Republicans for working with Democrats like Schumer for days in
Speaker 1: a bipartisan way to try to get a bill passed
Speaker 1: that would help with the situation. The Democrats were involved
Speaker 1: in the very beginning. This should be right, We should
Speaker 1: be all set. What happened last night at the eleventh hour,
Speaker 1: I mean it almost was the eleventh hour. I don't
Speaker 1: know what the time was, but what happened last night,
Speaker 1: Oh Nancy Pelosi showed up and all of a sudden said, now,
Speaker 1: no bipartisan bill. I'm going to start a new bill.
Speaker 1: And the Democrats in the Senate went along with it.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't let the cloture vote happen, wouldn't let the Senate
Speaker 1: vote on a trillion dollar plus relief package. Right, that's
Speaker 1: exactly what happened, that they were involved Schumer and the Democrats.
Speaker 1: But I mean, the left is completely insane. The bipartisan
Speaker 1: facade has been breaking down very quickly on this. I mean,
Speaker 1: leftists are totalitarians and they're vicious, So even in a pandemic,
Speaker 1: they don't stop being vicious totalitarians. A lot of us
Speaker 1: are trying to talk about solutions and what's best for everybody,
Speaker 1: trying to save as many people as possible while also
Speaker 1: preventing the depression that will destroy the country and end
Speaker 1: up killing who knows how many people. We like to
Speaker 1: think that we can have a bipartisan conversation about something
Speaker 1: of this seriousness. But leftists are insane. They're insane with
Speaker 1: their hatred of Trump, but also they have a vicious
Speaker 1: totalitarian impulse that they absolutely cannot put aside. Right, they
Speaker 1: want to control everything has to be their way, and
Speaker 1: you see this with Democrats, with Pelosi. What do you
Speaker 1: think is the thing that they absolutely want to make
Speaker 1: sure they get funding for. I mean, I know that
Speaker 1: they've just decided. I think it was They're they're trying
Speaker 1: to limit I think elective procedures like abortions right now. Oh,
Speaker 1: just give it time. I'm sure there'll be a federal
Speaker 1: judge because all medical elective procedures right now are being
Speaker 1: put on hold. Is an abortion an elective procedure? Ask
Speaker 1: a Democrat that, oh, it's not elective. It's like they'd
Speaker 1: say it's life saving, it's life ending. But Pelosi came
Speaker 1: in and is going to have a whole I'm sure,
Speaker 1: a laundry list of things that she wants that have
Speaker 1: nothing to do with saving anybody from this pandemic, have
Speaker 1: nothing to do with just helping the American people. It's
Speaker 1: Pelosi holding the American economy hostage right now. I mean,
Speaker 1: the market is now below the Dow is below nineteen thousand,
Speaker 1: plummeting again today. Okay, it was at thirty thousand a
Speaker 1: few weeks ago. The market's getting absolutely crushed and people
Speaker 1: are losing money, and you know, there's there's real pain here.
Speaker 1: Pelosi doesn't care. Let's just say Pelosi is an unethical
Speaker 1: and nasty person. She is. It doesn't affect her at all.
Speaker 1: She's gonna keep getting money. She's going to keep getting
Speaker 1: you know, the millions and millions of dollars. You know,
Speaker 1: as long as she has access to her bank accounts
Speaker 1: probably you know, foreign and domestic, she's good. You know, whatever,
Speaker 1: whatever she needs, she's got, she's covered. It doesn't really
Speaker 1: matter to her. He lives in a mansion. You know.
Speaker 1: Some of this is bouncing around Congress. Anyone can get
Speaker 1: this anywhere. We know that you've got five Republican senators
Speaker 1: out of action right now. Senator Ran Paul actually is
Speaker 1: positive for this for COVID nineteen. He's asymptomatic. Merkel, the
Speaker 1: Chancellor of Germany, she is in self quarantine right now.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean politicians are subject to this as well.
Speaker 1: But Pelosi seems to lack a fundamental appreciation for the
Speaker 1: severity and the seriousness of the economic moment right now.
Speaker 1: And this is just another example of the Democrats even now,
Speaker 1: can't stop playing politics even now. Thanks for listening to
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Speaker 1: at a time when the country is crying out from
Speaker 1: bipartisanship and cooperation, and we saw that over the last
Speaker 1: forty eight hours when regular members of the Senate, not
Speaker 1: in the leadership office, not in the Speaker's office. For
Speaker 1: good to say she's a Speaker of the House, I'll
Speaker 1: the speaker of the Senate. We don't have one. We
Speaker 1: were doing just fine until that intervention. So I want
Speaker 1: the American people to fully understand what's go on on here.
Speaker 1: The markets are already reacting to this outrageous nonsense. We
Speaker 1: have an obligation to the American people to deal with
Speaker 1: this emergency and to deal with it tomorrow. And if
Speaker 1: we don't, I want everybody to fully understand. You're saying
Speaker 1: everybody who's own record, I'm conspicuously avoided trying to turn
Speaker 1: this into any kind of partisan effort for two days.
Speaker 1: But it's pretty clear what's going on here. Yes it is.
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard Mitch McConnell get that upset about
Speaker 1: really anything? And this is just a betrayal. It's a
Speaker 1: betrayal not just of the bipartisan effort that was going on.
Speaker 1: Remember Schumer, I played that clippery that was from last week.
Speaker 1: He's saying, we're working with Republicans, it's good, we're on this,
Speaker 1: We're going to take care of this. Then Nancy Pelosi
Speaker 1: shows up she's like, nope, let's hold them hostage and
Speaker 1: the Democrats in the cenacle. Yeah, fine, that sounds good.
Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell's upset because it's also a betrayal of the
Speaker 1: American people. I mean, the country is going to be
Speaker 1: increasingly politically combustible here, meaning that we're not going to
Speaker 1: just you know, continue to say, oh, well, well, you know,
Speaker 1: political leadership is on this and they're working on it,
Speaker 1: and you know they'll take care of us. Politicians haven't
Speaker 1: missed a paycheck. Politicians don't plan on missing a paycheck.
Speaker 1: Most members of the media, and look, you know, for now,
Speaker 1: even members of the conservative media. We're in that fortunate
Speaker 1: those of us who can work from home or write
Speaker 1: from home, or do whatever it is that we can
Speaker 1: do remotely. You know. So far, media organizations are keeping
Speaker 1: up with business, they're keeping going. But by and large,
Speaker 1: I mean this is this isn't going to continue either.
Speaker 1: You need businesses, you need you know, do you watch
Speaker 1: you know, cable news shows and they've got sponsors. You know,
Speaker 1: they've got car companies and Starbucks, and if everything shut down,
Speaker 1: the sponsorships are going to go away. Two folks, you
Speaker 1: know that this is where we are. Everyone's going to
Speaker 1: be affected by this and in ways that they can't
Speaker 1: even begin to really accurately gauge. And in that environment,
Speaker 1: Pelosi is doing this. It is a complete, a complete disgrace.
Speaker 1: The Senate bill was a bipartisan bill, it had Democrat
Speaker 1: input from the very beginning, and Pelosi just saunters in
Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, yeah, this is debor we're
Speaker 1: gonna do. We're gonna do it. I would. And you
Speaker 1: have to look at this and say, when do we
Speaker 1: get to call Pelosi out for just being a disgraceful
Speaker 1: and unethical person. The delay here matters. You know, we
Speaker 1: keep hearing about how the timing matters for fighting against
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen, it matters for getting masks, it matters for
Speaker 1: any five wrestiers. The delay matters, and it also matters
Speaker 1: for the economy. We don't have days and days to
Speaker 1: wait here. I mean, people are making decisions, they're shutting
Speaker 1: businesses down. Bad stuff is happening in real time. And
Speaker 1: she just also, what does this mean about the confidence
Speaker 1: we could have in any part of the legislative ability
Speaker 1: to fix this right now at any point in time. Nancy,
Speaker 1: you can just throw a fit and the Democrats will
Speaker 1: go along with her Democrats in the Senate. She's not
Speaker 1: the speaker of the Senate. It was Senate Democrats that
Speaker 1: took their marching orders from Nancy on this, and I
Speaker 1: saw a friend of mine from Capel Hill tweeted this out,
Speaker 1: Josh Holmes, you said, the Democrat filibuster of Corona relief
Speaker 1: is the single most irresponsible act I've seen in twenty
Speaker 1: years of being around the Senate. God hope the Americans
Speaker 1: who've livelihoods will be irreparably damaged tomorrow as a result.
Speaker 1: The anger is going to rise, my friends, and the
Speaker 1: anger is going to start rising toward people who don't
Speaker 1: understand how painful this is for a lot of folks
Speaker 1: out there who are losing everything, who are losing businesses,
Speaker 1: losing livelihoods, losing life savings, losing hope, losing a future.
Speaker 1: There's more than just a virus to fight against here.
Speaker 1: We all know that, or at least we should. And
Speaker 1: it's just it's troubling today having leftists come after me
Speaker 1: because I'm trying to make the case that we need
Speaker 1: to balance this out. It can't be whatever we do
Speaker 1: to stop the virus is inherently justified because at some
Speaker 1: point you cross, you know, on the axis here of
Speaker 1: how many people are you losing and how much are
Speaker 1: you losing in American society, you cross the point at
Speaker 1: which you're unwilling to continue with the lockdown because you
Speaker 1: realize that the loss is in every other regard are
Speaker 1: too much. It's just it's just, you know, troubling to see.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, leftists are contemptible people in general. I
Speaker 1: would like to do everything possible to save everybody I
Speaker 1: can across the country, and not that I can, that
Speaker 1: we can as a government and as a people across
Speaker 1: the country. And yet leftists continue to be contemptible, even
Speaker 1: of those of us who are really trying to approach
Speaker 1: this in good faith and push for wise decision making,
Speaker 1: wise policy. And as I've said to you, I'm right,
Speaker 1: I'm not just in the middle of you know, I'm
Speaker 1: not just in New York State or in New York City.
Speaker 1: I'm in the middle of New York City, the greatest
Speaker 1: concentration of COVID nineteen anywhere in the United States. The
Speaker 1: United States now has the third most cases in the world.
Speaker 1: And I'm saying, look, we have to find a compromise here.
Speaker 1: We have to find a balance between the acceptable risk
Speaker 1: and the damage done to the economy. That's where we
Speaker 1: are right now, and the government's trying to figure this
Speaker 1: out too, which I think is part of why you
Speaker 1: have not seen at least yet the President come forward,
Speaker 1: and I mean, as I go to air here, he
Speaker 1: has not yet done a press conference. I saw Cuomo's
Speaker 1: press conference this morning. But the Democrats playing a game
Speaker 1: at this point is something that nobody should ever forget.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Nancy Pelosi is somebody who she
Speaker 1: sees power, she sees advantage, she sees the ability to
Speaker 1: exercise leverage over the other side, doesn't matter how desperate
Speaker 1: the situation. In fact, that the more desperate the situation,
Speaker 1: the better. The more desperate the circumstance, the more she
Speaker 1: feels like she's able to get her way because she'll
Speaker 1: play as dirty as she has to play. And this
Speaker 1: is why you're going to see all this stuff that
Speaker 1: the Democrats in the House caving to the insane left
Speaker 1: wing of the House Democrats, which these people are nuts,
Speaker 1: and there's some people that are still, Oh, we shouldn't
Speaker 1: lose sight of the throat of climate change. Well, this
Speaker 1: is going on. These people are lunatics, But the Democrat
Speaker 1: left still has a lot of influence over the party
Speaker 1: and still has a lot of say, even over the
Speaker 1: leadership at the party, like Nancy Pelosi, and so she's
Speaker 1: willing to make this decision. She's willing to cave to them,
Speaker 1: and it's just it's appalling. I mean, I'm I'm quick
Speaker 1: to say that. You know, I've all along tried to
Speaker 1: say that we should come together here and and I'm
Speaker 1: already seeing this fray before we even know how bad
Speaker 1: this is going to get and where we're going to be.
Speaker 1: I'm already seeing that. I'm you know, the the hyper
Speaker 1: part is in nature of all the stuff that's going
Speaker 1: on right now in Congress, as well as in much
Speaker 1: of the media. I mean, today there was a piece,
Speaker 1: a c ann piece about how three people overdosed on
Speaker 1: chloroquin in Nigeria in the aftermath of President Trump's comments
Speaker 1: that maybe this will be an effective treatment for for
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen. I don't know if these are people who
Speaker 1: just took it themselves, or if they had a doctor
Speaker 1: who poorly administered it or something, But how is this
Speaker 1: even a news story. I've asked, and I've seen a
Speaker 1: lot of people, you know, snarky liberals. I'm under, I'm
Speaker 1: under left wing assault that I just you know, on
Speaker 1: social media, they're they're all coming after the buckster, which
Speaker 1: is fine. They're morons, and you know, ultimately you start
Speaker 1: to recognize, you know, what are these people? You know,
Speaker 1: idiots wake up on They're idiots all the time, and
Speaker 1: they'll never be right, they'll never be ethical, they'll never
Speaker 1: be worth anyone's time, and they just speak to the
Speaker 1: brainwashed and the largely brain dead of the progressive left.
Speaker 1: And that's that's what they do. That's that's their existence.
Speaker 1: You know, the people that work in the media that
Speaker 1: eight or to this left wing insanity, you know, some
Speaker 1: of them are the same people that I've seen who
Speaker 1: are big advocates for you know, Andrew Gillham should be
Speaker 1: the governor of Florida because he seems like a really,
Speaker 1: really solid ethical individual. Seeing the stories about gilliam situation,
Speaker 1: I also I didn't know that there was some left
Speaker 1: wing journos out there who who were saying, oh, he
Speaker 1: was just at he was at a wedding and it
Speaker 1: was with a friend I saw that. I think that
Speaker 1: the young Turks guy put that out there. He was
Speaker 1: just at a wedding, you know, he just no, he
Speaker 1: was actually at a He was in a hotel with
Speaker 1: a male escort and meth amphetamine on the on the
Speaker 1: premises and a I mean, I'm not even getting this
Speaker 1: is what the special medicine was for, but special medicine
Speaker 1: for other stuff and that you inject, which I didn't
Speaker 1: even know that was a thing. And you know, we
Speaker 1: were told that this guy should be governor of Florida,
Speaker 1: a very important, very large state, because yeah, that's right,
Speaker 1: if we had a Democrat like Andrew Gillim in charge
Speaker 1: in Florida, the COVID nineteen response, I would be better.
Speaker 1: That's what they watch you to believe. And this story
Speaker 1: in Nigeria, a country that of the journalists that are
Speaker 1: all piling on me now for saying, how is why
Speaker 1: does CNN think this is a new story. The answer
Speaker 1: to my question is it's a new story because it's
Speaker 1: a way of saying Trump overstated this, and so now
Speaker 1: people are dying. Trump lied, Trump lied, Trump lied, people
Speaker 1: died about chloroquine. That's supposed to be the takeaway or
Speaker 1: Trump overstated and people, this is idiotic. Trump said, it
Speaker 1: may not be anything, it may not mean anything. You know,
Speaker 1: we're hopeful we'll see And three people in a country
Speaker 1: that is over five thousand miles away, a country of
Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty million plus people, to begin with,
Speaker 1: three people overdose on this a drug that's been in
Speaker 1: that country for decades, and people have been taken to
Speaker 1: fight malaria for decades, and this is a CNN shares
Speaker 1: this from their main account with forty million followers on Twitter.
Speaker 1: This is a new story. Why oh, because of the
Speaker 1: Trump angle, And people will pretend that they can't see that,
Speaker 1: but of course that's why. So you know he's here.
Speaker 1: It's where we are with all of this. You know,
Speaker 1: it's gonna get as it gets scarier, there'll be more
Speaker 1: bad faith, partisan leftist morons running around yelling at people
Speaker 1: and being crazy and saying that you know you're I mean.
Speaker 1: This is the same the same media that was telling
Speaker 1: us for the last week the biggest problem is calling
Speaker 1: it Wuhan virus because that's so racist, or calling it
Speaker 1: a Chinese virus because that's so racist. Now they're turning
Speaker 1: around and saying anybody who wants to shut the turn
Speaker 1: the economy back on from the shut off as soon
Speaker 1: as possible. I didn't say tomorrow wants more dead people.
Speaker 1: This is just bad faith idiocy, that's all. It is,
Speaker 1: bad faith idiocy. So you know, you get a lot
Speaker 1: of that from the left, though we're going to see
Speaker 1: a lot more of it going forward. Let's talk about
Speaker 1: some of them, trying to find some of the the
Speaker 1: upside here, first of all things that have worked so far,
Speaker 1: and then also things that might work in the future.
Speaker 1: Let's let's switch gears into some of that. And then
Speaker 1: also I'll tell you about we got to do sort
Speaker 1: of our quarantine hangout session where I tell you about
Speaker 1: what's going on with me, and we'll do a role call.
Speaker 1: And because this is it, you guys, Team Buck is
Speaker 1: my only team right now. I don't get to see anybody.
Speaker 1: I'm on lockdown. I get to see the family French bulldog.
Speaker 1: That's really that's really it, you know, with with very
Speaker 1: very seldom exception for young family members who are who
Speaker 1: are healthy. You know, I don't get to see the
Speaker 1: people in my life. So I get to talk to
Speaker 1: all of you. This is more important than ever from
Speaker 1: a news standpoint that I get to address all of you,
Speaker 1: but also personally and psychologically. I mean, you know the team,
Speaker 1: you guys are all and gals. Of course I did
Speaker 1: do the general guys. You know guys. It means everybody.
Speaker 1: You guys, I'm from New York. It's how we talk.
Speaker 1: You are keeping me company through this quarantine at a
Speaker 1: time when that really is that is meaningful, and I
Speaker 1: hope I'm providing at some level the same for those
Speaker 1: of you who listen and who watch. And also it's
Speaker 1: why I want more than ever as many people to
Speaker 1: write in and just tell me what you're going through,
Speaker 1: what it's like across the country, and what you're thinking.
Speaker 1: You're in the freedom art. This is the Buck Sexton
Speaker 1: Show podcast. If you look at the dynamics of the
Speaker 1: outbreak in Italy, we don't know why they are suffering
Speaker 1: so terribly, but there's a possibility and many of us
Speaker 1: believe that early on they did not shut out as
Speaker 1: well the input of infections that originated in China and
Speaker 1: came to different parts of the world. One of the
Speaker 1: things that we did very early and very aggressively, the
Speaker 1: President that you know, put the travel restriction coming from
Speaker 1: China to the United States and most recently from Europe
Speaker 1: to the United States, because Europe is really the new China. Again.
Speaker 1: I don't know why this is happening there to such
Speaker 1: an extent, but it is conceivable that once you get
Speaker 1: so many of these spreads out, they spread exponentially and
Speaker 1: you can never keep up with the tsunami. And I
Speaker 1: think that's what unfortunately, our colleagues, enough dear friends in
Speaker 1: Italy are facing. So again we returned to doctor Foucher
Speaker 1: here saying that the shutdown of flights from China is
Speaker 1: the single most important early stage decision that the Trump
Speaker 1: administration made right. The shutdown from China is. The shutdown
Speaker 1: of flights from China was something that the media, the
Speaker 1: same media that's now telling us, yeah, you know, the
Speaker 1: shutdown should continue as long the economic shutdown should continue
Speaker 1: as long as possible. They seem to be saying, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: we well, they will not admit that they were wrong
Speaker 1: about flights from China. The truth is there should have
Speaker 1: been a shutdown in flights from Europe too, but we
Speaker 1: didn't know how badly Europe had been hit. And when
Speaker 1: you break down what's gone on in Italy, the particularly
Speaker 1: aged population there, they have I think the second oldest
Speaker 1: in the world after Japan. They have direct flights, a
Speaker 1: lot of direct flights not just from China, but from
Speaker 1: Hubei Province, which is where Wuhan City is in China
Speaker 1: because of the textile textile factories, and there's a lot
Speaker 1: of crossover with China on that. That's an important differentiator
Speaker 1: between us and them. And then they also have a
Speaker 1: higher percentage of smokers than we do, which unfortunately for
Speaker 1: the smokers out there, that does increase your risk from
Speaker 1: this disease. So please please take good care of yourself,
Speaker 1: take a little extra precaution if you're a smoker. But
Speaker 1: Italy has a higher rate of smoking, particularly among the elderly, substantially,
Speaker 1: I think it's double what it is in the United States.
Speaker 1: And you know, so they had and they got hit
Speaker 1: and they weren't ready. We have been we're now going
Speaker 1: to have been getting ready for two weeks. And people
Speaker 1: that think that we should just continue in this current
Speaker 1: mode indefinitely, I'd want to ask them, what do what
Speaker 1: do they think the acceptable cost to the economy are right?
Speaker 1: What do they think the acceptable ranges of what we
Speaker 1: should do here? And they don't have any answers, because
Speaker 1: right now, people are scared, they're angry, and there's a
Speaker 1: lot of jockeying for status among those who are in
Speaker 1: the narrative right now, right who's going to be listened
Speaker 1: to on this and who's not. In the media, you'll
Speaker 1: see a lot of that. I just want, I just
Speaker 1: want my country and my city to be able to
Speaker 1: continue to function and go back to work as soon
Speaker 1: as possible. And that's just where we are right That's
Speaker 1: just we have to confront this that there's not going
Speaker 1: to be an easy and easy choice to make an
Speaker 1: easy time. So doctor Faucci though saying that that's that's
Speaker 1: a very important part of us. And also we've got
Speaker 1: some on the some update on the usage of chloroquin.
Speaker 1: The usage of chloroquin is a very well, you know,
Speaker 1: we're hopeful on this one. It could be turning a corner.
Speaker 1: It will not eliminate the fear and the shutdowns and everything,
Speaker 1: even if it shows some very high likelihood of working,
Speaker 1: but it certainly will be an issue that we or
Speaker 1: rather it will certainly be an advancement that will help
Speaker 1: dramatically against this. It will help dramatically in our fight
Speaker 1: against the disease, so we'll have to see. I'll give
Speaker 1: you a little bit of where we are on that.
Speaker 1: I think New York State has as of tomorrow going
Speaker 1: New York dat as of tomorrow will be using chloroquinn
Speaker 1: to treat this. So we'll hopefully be getting frontline data.
Speaker 1: And you know it's not going to be as control
Speaker 1: the study as would like, but frontline data very very soon.
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Bus Sesson Show podcasts. Remember
Speaker 1: to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever
Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. There's an issue here of we're
Speaker 1: coming from. The President has heard, as we all have heard,
Speaker 1: what I call anecdotal reports that certain drugs work. So
Speaker 1: what he was trying to do an express was the
Speaker 1: hope that if they might work, let's try and push
Speaker 1: their usage. I, on the other side, have said, I'm
Speaker 1: not disagreeing with the fact anecdotally they might work, but
Speaker 1: my job is to prove definitively from a scientific standpoint
Speaker 1: that they do work. So I was taking a purely medical,
Speaker 1: scientific standpoint, and the President was trying to bring hope
Speaker 1: to the people. I think there's this issue of trying
Speaker 1: to separate the two of us. There isn't fundamentally a
Speaker 1: difference there. He's coming from it from a hope lay
Speaker 1: person standpoint. I'm coming from it from a scientific standpoint.
Speaker 1: That's the explanation that I think anybody who was being
Speaker 1: fair minded would have already known from watching the press
Speaker 1: conference last week. You had this whole dust up between
Speaker 1: President Trump and some NBC reporter over whether Trump was
Speaker 1: giving a sense of false hope by saying that, you know,
Speaker 1: we'll see if this combination of chloroquin and a zithromycin,
Speaker 1: which is an antibiotic that i'm zpac. I'm sure a
Speaker 1: lot of you are familiar. I think zpac is a
Speaker 1: zithromycin um. If I'm wrong on that, apologies, I'm not
Speaker 1: a doctor. I don't play one on radio. But this
Speaker 1: would be a very very helpful tool. This would be
Speaker 1: something that would finally make people feel like, all right,
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna turn the corner at some point here.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get to a state where we know we're
Speaker 1: winning this fight. And if you bring the mortality rate
Speaker 1: down substantially, you're going to be able to make much
Speaker 1: more clear headed I think decisions, and much you know
Speaker 1: you're you're gonna have a better understanding of what's feasible
Speaker 1: what's not when we can get back to work with
Speaker 1: because right now we don't know what the mortality it
Speaker 1: really is and we don't have a real way to
Speaker 1: treat this, and putting someone on a ventilator, all that
Speaker 1: really does is keep them alive. Obviously critical keep them alive,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't kill the virus. It just keeps the
Speaker 1: keeps the cycle going of breathing while their system fights
Speaker 1: off the virus. So having something that would even just
Speaker 1: give you know, substantial efficacy here, it doesn't even it
Speaker 1: doesn't have to cure it the next day, but even
Speaker 1: if it just prevents. That's why I keep focusing the
Speaker 1: mortality aspect of it. I don't think that we're looking
Speaker 1: to take chloroquin as at least my understanding right now
Speaker 1: is that it's not it's not going to be something
Speaker 1: you take as a prophylactic against this, even if it
Speaker 1: shows some efficacy against the disease when people are infected.
Speaker 1: I think the likelier situation is that you're just going
Speaker 1: to see this use in acute cases when somebody is
Speaker 1: infected and they're trying to make sure they keep them alive.
Speaker 1: They're going to have you know, the respiratory or the
Speaker 1: respirator going, but they'll be giving them chloroquin in the
Speaker 1: zithro mice, and hopefully that will be enough to make
Speaker 1: sure that we have very, very very few casualties among
Speaker 1: anybody who catches this. Ye know, I'm also seeing now
Speaker 1: and this is a classic thing. This happened. I went
Speaker 1: on the Bill Marshaw too. I mean, I have people
Speaker 1: who are actually hoping that I or someone in my
Speaker 1: family gets COVID nineteen just because I'm trying to advocate
Speaker 1: for a fact based and reasonable, numbers based approach to it.
Speaker 1: You know, leftist see what I'm saying or hear what
Speaker 1: I'm saying here on the show, and they you know,
Speaker 1: I would never I'll just tell you this right now.
Speaker 1: I would never do that. And that's it's important you
Speaker 1: remember these things, especially when you're in my business. To
Speaker 1: separate you from that. I get to go to sleep
Speaker 1: every night and wake up every morning knowing that I'm
Speaker 1: a decent, ethical person who cares about other human beings,
Speaker 1: and even the biggest jerks around I would help if they,
Speaker 1: you know, if they were in danger. I would help
Speaker 1: if they needed it, and I want what's best for
Speaker 1: all of my fellow Americans and all my fellow and
Speaker 1: beings when it comes to dealing with this virus that
Speaker 1: people think that it's a funny quip to say, you know, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: hopefully you'll get this, then we won't have to hear
Speaker 1: from you anymore. And these are blue checks, but I
Speaker 1: mean these are journals. Yeah, that's hilarious. That's hilarious. I mean,
Speaker 1: the left, it really is unfortunately morally rotten and diseased,
Speaker 1: and that doesn't change is because there's a pandemic. They
Speaker 1: have adopted beliefs, and they have adopted an approach to
Speaker 1: other people they disagree with that is hateful and spiteful
Speaker 1: and disgusting. So, you know, I think last week there
Speaker 1: was such a shock around how frightening things had gotten,
Speaker 1: how bad things had gotten, that we had a sense
Speaker 1: that maybe there would be a little bit more of
Speaker 1: a bipartisan flavor to this, a little bit more of
Speaker 1: an all hands on deck from the politicians and from
Speaker 1: the political class. But that seems to be changing very quickly.
Speaker 1: That seems to be changing with the day. And just
Speaker 1: wait until there's a there's an opening, they will pylon
Speaker 1: to President Trump with everything that they've got because they
Speaker 1: know that there's there's power at stake here right now.
Speaker 1: The Obama administration came in during a financial crisis, and
Speaker 1: Ram Emanuel and others, I mean they were explicit about
Speaker 1: Ram Emanuel was at least, you know, never let a
Speaker 1: crisis go to waste, and so they turned the financial
Speaker 1: crisis into an opportunity to leverage the fear and panic
Speaker 1: among people in this country to get what they wanted. Well,
Speaker 1: that's that's really one of the you know, when when
Speaker 1: you look at what they're going to do now, the
Speaker 1: Democrats are going to be up to now, it's going
Speaker 1: to be quite similar. They're going to leverage this for
Speaker 1: their own political gain as much as they possibly can.
Speaker 1: One of the point are about about by the way,
Speaker 1: I know we've talked to this a lot today, but
Speaker 1: you know you guys also need to let me know,
Speaker 1: I mean, team that I want to make this as
Speaker 1: interactive as I can, and we are. I have been researching.
Speaker 1: I just got to figure out how to do it.
Speaker 1: How to set up a voicemail in box so you
Speaker 1: we can play voicemails on the air about the show,
Speaker 1: you know, for the show. I also have to note that,
Speaker 1: you know, if you want me to try to find
Speaker 1: I mean, there are other news stories that are happening.
Speaker 1: It just feels like this is such a you know,
Speaker 1: so much more central than anything else going on right
Speaker 1: now that I don't know if you would think it
Speaker 1: was a bit flip into it was a little bit
Speaker 1: off key for me to get into some other things.
Speaker 1: I mean, you just you look at at any news
Speaker 1: site right now, though, and it's basically all coronavirus coverage.
Speaker 1: It's basically all about this issue. You know, There's not
Speaker 1: really a whole lot else that's being talked about or
Speaker 1: going on. I mean, there's no sports, so I can't
Speaker 1: even bring producer market to talk about sports. I'll try
Speaker 1: to find ways talk to you about books and about
Speaker 1: TV shows and other things. But you know, this is
Speaker 1: where we are right now, this is the world that
Speaker 1: we're living in. If you would like me to get
Speaker 1: to a place where we can start, maybe in the
Speaker 1: third hour, just do other kinds of stories. I'll look
Speaker 1: for some things, find some things. I'm happy to do that,
Speaker 1: but I want this to be a place where you
Speaker 1: get information and you hear what's going on, and you know,
Speaker 1: there's a sharing of how we're all feeling right now
Speaker 1: that goes on. We're about to get into a roll
Speaker 1: call to that end, but also I want this to
Speaker 1: be a place where you can seek a little bit
Speaker 1: of a rest bit from all of this and maybe
Speaker 1: just knowing that you're hearing a friendly voice about this
Speaker 1: and that you know, I am still optimistic. I know
Speaker 1: we will get through this. I know we've been through
Speaker 1: worse things as a country. But you know, let me
Speaker 1: know a team, I am starting work on a history podcast.
Speaker 1: That is something that I'll be doing. So you know,
Speaker 1: there's there's some things that I'd like to introduce into
Speaker 1: our show day to day that I'm I want to
Speaker 1: be more relaxing, more laid back and everything else. So
Speaker 1: that's I'm going to try to do that as well
Speaker 1: as what I'm saying. But I also wanted to be
Speaker 1: like why as Buck, you know, telling stories about what
Speaker 1: it was like back in the day and you know,
Speaker 1: in New York City or I don't know whatever, when
Speaker 1: we need to be focusing in on the single biggest
Speaker 1: problem facing humanity right now. So you know, to that end,
Speaker 1: I want to try to keep things, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I want to try to keep things focused on what matters,
Speaker 1: but also make sure that you're not like, oh, Buck,
Speaker 1: you're really going to talk about coronavirus every day. Guys,
Speaker 1: I don't know what else there is really that's going
Speaker 1: to get at least our first hour of the show.
Speaker 1: I mean, if something changes, that would be that would
Speaker 1: be great. Um. But yeah, that's where that's where we are.
Speaker 1: That is the reality of our situation right now, and
Speaker 1: we need to deal in as we always try to
Speaker 1: deal in this reality. Um, it was it was a
Speaker 1: bit spooky walking around New York and door. I wasn't
Speaker 1: I wasn't at a party or a lot of people
Speaker 1: anything else. I was walking the dog. But walking around
Speaker 1: this city and just seeing what it's doing here. Um.
Speaker 1: Our response to this is crippling. I mean, I'm seeing restaurants,
Speaker 1: I'm walking past places that I've got memories of. You know,
Speaker 1: I've been on you know, been out with friends there,
Speaker 1: been out with my parents, been on dates, bars and
Speaker 1: restaurants and different stores. And you know, you when you
Speaker 1: whether you're in a city or you're out in you know,
Speaker 1: a rural area, you always have associations, memories that you
Speaker 1: that you bring Tobara with certain places and and yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm seeing places and thinking there is that is it
Speaker 1: never going to open again? It would seem that's a
Speaker 1: distinct possibility for a lot of them. And that's that's
Speaker 1: really disconcerting because those are those are people that work there,
Speaker 1: that that that's part of their life and that's how
Speaker 1: they pay their bills, that's how they build a future
Speaker 1: for their kids and for their families. So I'm I'm
Speaker 1: looking for the optimistic side of this as much as
Speaker 1: I can, and what I find is that we've been
Speaker 1: through very difficult times as a country before. We've never
Speaker 1: really been through this though. We've never really decided that
Speaker 1: we were going to engage in extreme measures of this
Speaker 1: kind to deal with a pandemic, and we don't have
Speaker 1: a template to work off of. And so when I
Speaker 1: say we're going to get through this because we've been
Speaker 1: through a lot of bad things, I'm also very cognitive
Speaker 1: we've never been through this, We've never been through a
Speaker 1: situation like this. That's really where we are. That's really
Speaker 1: the recognition of where we are at this moment in time.
Speaker 1: And I just hope that I can come to you
Speaker 1: with good news sooner than later about how things are
Speaker 1: going right now and it is a tough time in
Speaker 1: this country and how can you escape? I mean, the
Speaker 1: problem we also have is how can you escape coronavirus?
Speaker 1: When we're all basically under different stages of self distancing
Speaker 1: and quarantine. There's no sports going on, there's no gathering,
Speaker 1: you're not seeing people. What do we really have to do?
Speaker 1: Books and media consumption. Actually, for the first time, I
Speaker 1: try a puzzle over the weekend, which was interesting. I
Speaker 1: try to puzzle. But books and media consumption are the
Speaker 1: way that is most readily available for us to think
Speaker 1: about something else, to deal with something else, And unfortunately
Speaker 1: the media is completely dominated by this, right if you
Speaker 1: look at the news media. So then you just got
Speaker 1: to get into Netflix. And I'm pretty sure my Netflix
Speaker 1: was the quality of it, the resolution of it was
Speaker 1: down a little bit. But you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: I want to try to do everything I can to
Speaker 1: bring you into what we need to talk about every day,
Speaker 1: but allso to give us all an escape from it.
Speaker 1: So I'm working on some ideas. I've got some thoughts
Speaker 1: and Facebook dot com slashbuck Sexton or a team bucket.
Speaker 1: iHeartMedia dot Com to share you know what you if
Speaker 1: you think there's a kind of segment we should do,
Speaker 1: if they're things you just want to hear me talking about,
Speaker 1: you know, I get up. I do this show for
Speaker 1: three hours every day to serve this audience. So let
Speaker 1: me know how best I can serve this audience during
Speaker 1: this pandemic. I put that out to all of you,
Speaker 1: and by serving you, I'll be helping myself out because
Speaker 1: I want to be in touch with as many of
Speaker 1: you every day as I possibly can. And this really
Speaker 1: is you are my connection to the outside world. That
Speaker 1: and walking this cute little French bulldog around on the street,
Speaker 1: because you know that I'm so allowed to do and
Speaker 1: I'm very thankful to have. Like I gotta say, those
Speaker 1: of us who have a little canine companion around, it's
Speaker 1: it's a special thing right now. You know, dogs, dogs
Speaker 1: are amazing in general, but right now, I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people are looking around saying, wow, it's really
Speaker 1: or a cat or you know, if you're into birds
Speaker 1: or lizards or whatever, you know, whatever kind of pet
Speaker 1: you've got. I think now is a particularly helpful time
Speaker 1: for us to have that companionship. You're in the freedom hunt.
Speaker 1: This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Let's bring in
Speaker 1: the wisdom of the penalty box. We got Mark. I
Speaker 1: want to do all the here from because we haven't
Speaker 1: been able to talk to me a little while. Producer Mark, Hello,
Speaker 1: how are you doing? Buddy? Your work from home now too? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And I finally got equipment, So you're not gonna now
Speaker 1: can hear me? I know everyone was there, they were like,
Speaker 1: what is going on? It's not going to return to normal.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna be okay unless Producer Mark is around. Yeah,
Speaker 1: who's gonna yell at Buck for you know, doing stupid stuff? Correct? Exactly?
Speaker 1: That needs to be like an ombudsman for the people
Speaker 1: for the team. So how how do you spend I mean,
Speaker 1: tell us just a little bit, because I think this
Speaker 1: is we all need to share because we don't get
Speaker 1: to see each other. There's this is water cooler talk now,
Speaker 1: because no one can actually go to water coolers because
Speaker 1: there's other people around them. Uh. Well, you know, how
Speaker 1: do you spend your weekend? Uh? Not doing much? I
Speaker 1: was glad to finally see my wife since she's back
Speaker 1: and forth from Long Island. So that was nice, but
Speaker 1: pretty much staying inside. I mean, what else can you
Speaker 1: do when you're quarantined, not allowed to go anywhere? Yeah,
Speaker 1: would you watch? I didn't. Well, let's see, we watched Manifest.
Speaker 1: That's a good show. That's a show we watched together.
Speaker 1: What's that about. It's about this plane. It's kind of
Speaker 1: like Lost. It's about this plane that disappeared coming back
Speaker 1: from Jamaica and then reappeared five years later and just
Speaker 1: kind of landed as if nothing happened. And it's like
Speaker 1: a mystery show. You know, where was the plane? Oh?
Speaker 1: That sounds like a nice you know, for him and
Speaker 1: for her, kind of kind of a show. Were you
Speaker 1: a Lost person? By the way, if I bailed after
Speaker 1: season three, it's very sound decision. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: bail on Manifest just yet. It's actually kept me intrigued
Speaker 1: the whole time. I'm shocked. No, it might be great.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying for those that watch Lost all the
Speaker 1: way to the end, because I made the decision, I
Speaker 1: was like, there's no way they can make this make sense.
Speaker 1: It's just gotten too convoluted and too weird. And everyone
Speaker 1: I knew who watched it all the way through some
Speaker 1: enjoyed it, and good for them, and I'm happy. But
Speaker 1: everyone who watched it all the way through turnaround and
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, it kind of just like mailed it
Speaker 1: in at the end. I mean it was, you know,
Speaker 1: the whole thing didn't really make sense. So I was
Speaker 1: forced to watch I think the pilot and maybe another
Speaker 1: episode in a class in college, and it didn't really
Speaker 1: intrigue me. So I never bother to watch more. What
Speaker 1: do you think? I mean, there's a piece in the
Speaker 1: Wallstree journal. Now, what to do when you're sheltering in place?
Speaker 1: What do you what do you want to do? Are
Speaker 1: you like taking up any hobbies or anything, because man,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have more time on our hands at home
Speaker 1: than we have in a long time. No, I'm just
Speaker 1: playing more video games and eating a lot more. All
Speaker 1: I do is eat. I feel like I'm hungry every
Speaker 1: ten minutes. I'm I'm really worried. I said that Corona
Speaker 1: Bod maybe a thing, but it's really not Corona Bod.
Speaker 1: It's it's gonna be a quarantine body. You know that's
Speaker 1: gonna end up happen. People are trying to change that
Speaker 1: with the Instagram challenges. I don't know if you've seen
Speaker 1: these the c ten do ten push ups and other
Speaker 1: stuff like that. I haven't seen that, but I probably
Speaker 1: should because right now, you know, I don't know. It's
Speaker 1: just really tough to to lie down on your living
Speaker 1: room floor and really and like because it's also I
Speaker 1: don't live in a house, so I got very limited space,
Speaker 1: limited room. It's very tough to lie down your living
Speaker 1: room floor and uh, you know, push yourself to do
Speaker 1: like one hundred burpies at a time, I mean burpees,
Speaker 1: so that you ever done a Burpee's the worst thing
Speaker 1: in the world, the terrible. Yeah. So for your own home, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, also you're in quarantine. It's so
Speaker 1: easy to tell yourself. Okay, I'm stressinging a little bit,
Speaker 1: but it's a stressful situation. Yeah, I mean, I will
Speaker 1: admit to getting an instacart delivery with a couple of
Speaker 1: pints of Ben and Jerry's, and I'm discovered. I discovered
Speaker 1: a kind of ice cream called not a Move, which
Speaker 1: has coconut I discovered a kind of ice cream that
Speaker 1: is absolutely delicious that instead of milk. Yes, I gotta
Speaker 1: tell you it's because you know why they didn't have
Speaker 1: the actual ice cream I wanted. And I'm usually anybody
Speaker 1: that goes for like a substitute meat or substitute ice
Speaker 1: cream is just destined for just appointment. But this not
Speaker 1: a move. Cookies and cream was amazing, and it's coconut
Speaker 1: instead of milk. With coconut milk. I mean, I've had
Speaker 1: halo top before. It's not dairy people like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't. I don't really do that halo top, but
Speaker 1: I've heard people have. All Right, by the way, you're
Speaker 1: gonna Rooster Mark, maybe you should take up because I
Speaker 1: know missus Mark also known as Ariel, is not around
Speaker 1: that much right now at home. Maybe on the weekends.
Speaker 1: Right during the week she's down in ali So, which
Speaker 1: is Long Island for those who aren't from the New
Speaker 1: York area, which is basically its own state, but it's
Speaker 1: technically a part of New York. But it's a huge thing.
Speaker 1: Maybe you should take up a little cooking in it.
Speaker 1: You could come on the show and I could help
Speaker 1: walk you through some of the stuff. Sure, I just
Speaker 1: need ingredients to cook. It's kind of hard to get
Speaker 1: stuff right now, buck, Are you really are other grocery
Speaker 1: stores in because the grocery stores in New York. They're
Speaker 1: empty because the only thing it's empty. You can't get
Speaker 1: hand sanitizer. You can't get paper towel, so I don't
Speaker 1: have a car during the week, so I can't paper.
Speaker 1: I'm doing insta card or some sort of delivery strip.
Speaker 1: Everybody wants home delivery. The guy will be coming in, like,
Speaker 1: send me pictures of pasta aisle, for example, completely empty. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: the pasta. You can't get canned food. You can't get it.
Speaker 1: It's crazy out there. Thanks for listening to the bus
Speaker 1: seton show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the
Speaker 1: iHeart Radio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, everybody,
Speaker 1: it's where we get to hear your thoughts on everything
Speaker 1: that is going on here for roll call, and let's
Speaker 1: get to it. Shelley, I do very much appreciate those
Speaker 1: of you who are writing in It is man. It
Speaker 1: adds a layer of normalcy to my day that I
Speaker 1: really look forward to. I mean I always look forward
Speaker 1: to it. But all right, here we go, Brett hey Buck.
Speaker 1: As terrible as everything is here in the States, I
Speaker 1: hope no one forgets about the troops and sailors overseas,
Speaker 1: the USS Dwight Eisenhower and Harry Truman have been deployed
Speaker 1: and had all port calls canceled since mid February until
Speaker 1: who knows when port calls keep a cruisane and the
Speaker 1: morale hit of no port calls has to be terrible
Speaker 1: for those ships and all of the deployed ships. Brett,
Speaker 1: really good point, man, I hear you. That is being
Speaker 1: stuck on ship under these kinds of circumstances, not able
Speaker 1: to go ashore. It is, Um. I'm sure it's going
Speaker 1: to be a terrible strain on our on our sailors
Speaker 1: and airmen and people who are out there as part
Speaker 1: of our surface naval warfare operations around the world. Um.
Speaker 1: And I oh my gosh, summer surface forget surface under
Speaker 1: the surface too, right, submarines. Yeah, that's gonna be tough. Um.
Speaker 1: So Brett, thank you for and you know, my heart
Speaker 1: goes out to all those who are doing their duty
Speaker 1: for US abroad under these circumstances. You know, obviously people
Speaker 1: who are deployed are going to be as we all are,
Speaker 1: but they're going to be they're deployed. They worried about
Speaker 1: family members worried about what's going to happen back home.
Speaker 1: So but they've got to keep keep us safe. Still,
Speaker 1: I mean, I worry it. I don't mean to go
Speaker 1: down a negative path here. It's negative enough out there
Speaker 1: in the world right now. But I worry about what if?
Speaker 1: What if something else hits us right now? What if
Speaker 1: we find ourselves in a circumstance where someone tries to
Speaker 1: one of our Now, I know you'd say people all
Speaker 1: over the world, but we have what about terrorist groups
Speaker 1: and non state actors? Right this is Look, let's just hope.
Speaker 1: Let's just hope things get better. Brian. Gents, thanks for
Speaker 1: a commentary on extra tipping. Right now, more of us
Speaker 1: need to do it. My home in rural PA has
Speaker 1: trash pick up outside once a week. The normally two
Speaker 1: man crew was operating by himself yesterday, driving and getting
Speaker 1: out at every house in the neighborhood. Made it a
Speaker 1: point to go thank him and gave him some cash.
Speaker 1: Keep the trash guys happy. When trash pickup stops moving,
Speaker 1: we got problems, oh, Brian, That's absolutely true. It's absolutely
Speaker 1: the case. We should do everything we can to show
Speaker 1: port for those who are still out there doing their jobs,
Speaker 1: and that means if you can throw them some extra cash,
Speaker 1: do helps them able to take care of their families.
Speaker 1: And also, you know there's there's a self interest which
Speaker 1: we should be explicit about here. You know, I really
Speaker 1: appreciate and want those who are working in all those
Speaker 1: jobs we've talked about, just keeping stuff going, keeping food
Speaker 1: on the shelves, lights on, keeping packages moving. You know
Speaker 1: that those people are essential right now, and I think
Speaker 1: they're often on our society underappreciated, and we know right
Speaker 1: now we appreciate them. So yes, do what you can
Speaker 1: to give some extra cash to folks who can use it,
Speaker 1: and try to be as supportive as possible as you
Speaker 1: can to people who who are doing the things that
Speaker 1: are necessary to keep life going. Melissa Greetings, Thank you
Speaker 1: for advising everyone to follow the current restrictions. Ten years ago,
Speaker 1: I was a healthy mother with a three month old baby.
Speaker 1: I was exposed to H one and one a church
Speaker 1: or older kids school. I got H one M one
Speaker 1: and it developed into a serious pneumonia and nearly killed
Speaker 1: me before my sister and husband got me to the hospital.
Speaker 1: It took me two years to recover and I still
Speaker 1: have damaged lungs. I was lucky. My friend, a very
Speaker 1: healthy outdoors woman who lives out west, got H one
Speaker 1: M one and pneumonia and spent a month in ICU
Speaker 1: on a ventilator. She still has severely damaged lungs and
Speaker 1: nerve damage. It was a miracle she recovered. Please keep
Speaker 1: urging people to think before they expose others. The current
Speaker 1: advice isn't perfect, but it's worth a grace period before
Speaker 1: we result revert to healthy skepticism. Yeah, Melissa, I think that,
Speaker 1: you know, that's that's where I've been. I think that
Speaker 1: the fifteen days. You know, we comply with the fifteen days,
Speaker 1: but they've been saying it fifteen days. I assume because
Speaker 1: after fifteen days they're going to let people start going
Speaker 1: back to work and start doing their jobs again or else.
Speaker 1: Why is it just the fifteen days? And this is why?
Speaker 1: What comes next? Part of this conversation, I think is
Speaker 1: where I'm trying to focus right now, Because we know
Speaker 1: what we're supposed to do in the meantime, we're supposed
Speaker 1: to be on lockdown and stay home. Well, what comes next? Amy,
Speaker 1: thank you. I'm one of the ones who keeps showing
Speaker 1: up to work. I do food deliveries and work in
Speaker 1: a kitchen that makes healthy, organic food for home delivery.
Speaker 1: I feel such a great sense of purpose and when
Speaker 1: I do all the time. But your words of encouragement
Speaker 1: have meant so much to me. Well, Amy, thank you
Speaker 1: for doing what you're doing. And yeah, I mean every
Speaker 1: time now, you know, and I'm just you know, I
Speaker 1: can get groceries, but I've been ordering out. It's not
Speaker 1: good for my waistline, but who cares. I've been ordering
Speaker 1: out more than I usually do because those there aren't
Speaker 1: that many businesses, even in New York that are still
Speaker 1: doing takeout and delivery. The number dwindles every day. So
Speaker 1: I want to try to get you know, I want
Speaker 1: to try to give them money. Keep myself fed obviously,
Speaker 1: and the people that are still doing that. And also
Speaker 1: it's yes, it's the sust and it's the food. It's
Speaker 1: making sure that we don't have, you know, people that
Speaker 1: are hungry in addition to all the other problems we
Speaker 1: have right now. But it's also the lessening of the
Speaker 1: anxiety and the sense of normalcy that comes from having
Speaker 1: food like your delivery service brought to people. You know,
Speaker 1: we need this stuff, We need this right now, Kathleen,
Speaker 1: Now that we're cooped up, can you give out a
Speaker 1: list of reading recommendations. All right, Kathleen, you know what
Speaker 1: I will do right now? Actually, just because we're here,
Speaker 1: we're in roll call, and I don't want to keep saying,
Speaker 1: oh I we'll do this, and oh I will do that,
Speaker 1: because then Oss and Stoats and some of the others
Speaker 1: will yell at me as their right to do sometimes
Speaker 1: because I just it's not that I ever don't want
Speaker 1: to do what I say. I just get delayed with
Speaker 1: things because I'm trying very hard. I'm trying to see
Speaker 1: if I can find my Kindle list, because that would
Speaker 1: be the single best. We're here, I could even just
Speaker 1: pull it up. I can pull it up on my
Speaker 1: on my phone. I'll do that. So you want to
Speaker 1: know things that I recommend you read right now if
Speaker 1: you're just looking for here we go. Team Buck is
Speaker 1: going to pull a whole bunch from the library and
Speaker 1: here's here's what we got. Um. I've mentioned recently Billion
Speaker 1: Dollars Whale by Tom Wright and Bradley Hope, The Seawolves,
Speaker 1: A History of the Vikings. Very Good Endurance by Alfred
Speaker 1: Lansing thee hundred Year Marathon by Michael Pillsbury. Let's see
Speaker 1: The Lost City of the Monkey God by Douglas prest
Speaker 1: Let's see what else we have here? Justice on Trial,
Speaker 1: my friend Molly Hemingway, Darwin's Doubt, Stephen Meyer, Bad Blood,
Speaker 1: John Carrirew Salt, Mark Kurlanski, Let's I'm trying to skip
Speaker 1: past it. The overly Act, demic Ones Sapiens, A Brief
Speaker 1: History of human kind. You've all Noah Harari, and let's
Speaker 1: see what else we have here. I think that's a
Speaker 1: pretty good outlaw Platoon by my friend Sean Parnell, Escape
Speaker 1: from Camp fourteen. That's pretty depressing, though, what else do
Speaker 1: we have here? A lot of this is stuff that
Speaker 1: I read for work, you know. I don't think a
Speaker 1: lot of you are really going to get into Eugenics
Speaker 1: and Other Evils by GK. Chesterton, although maybe if you've
Speaker 1: never read Bram Stoker's Dracula, read the novel. It's amazing.
Speaker 1: Let's see what else we have in the list here.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I told you. Nineteen eighty four Animal Farm,
Speaker 1: very very good, Whittaker Chambers Witness, great book. Read that one.
Speaker 1: Six Frigates if you want some military history, Ian Toll,
Speaker 1: fantastic book. Adrian Goldsworthy How Rome Fell might be a
Speaker 1: little scary to read right now, but you could definitely
Speaker 1: do that one if you've never read it before. Friedrich
Speaker 1: Kayak The Road to Serfdom. It's a little dense, but
Speaker 1: it's good. Chris Kyle American Sniper A certainly worth it
Speaker 1: if you've never read that one. What else do I
Speaker 1: have in here? Rules for randiical Saul Lynsky. If you've
Speaker 1: never read that one, definitely read that one. The New Nobility,
Speaker 1: The Restoration of Russia, of Russia, States Security and the
Speaker 1: Enduring Legacy of the KGB, very very good. And yeah,
Speaker 1: there you go. So there's a whole The Persian pots Ole,
Speaker 1: Kenneth Pollock, The Power Broker Robert Carrow, The Second World
Speaker 1: Wars by Victor Davis Hansen. All great books, all right,
Speaker 1: So I gave you those of you if you if
Speaker 1: you're listening this on radio, go back and grab this
Speaker 1: part of First of all, you should be subscribed hopefully
Speaker 1: to the podcast anyway. But I just gave you. Those
Speaker 1: are enough books. Those will last few months. Okay, Those
Speaker 1: are all really really good books. So now I've at
Speaker 1: least given you that list, and if there's other lists,
Speaker 1: I'll post them. But so now I've done what I
Speaker 1: said I would do. I've given you a list of
Speaker 1: books to check out, books to read. So there you go.
Speaker 1: Let's see what we have here. Now I got a
Speaker 1: little bit whoops, I got a little bit caught up
Speaker 1: in that. And now I've got to go back into
Speaker 1: more roll call. You're in the Freedom Hut. This is
Speaker 1: the Buck Sexton Show podcast. All right, now we've got Seawn.
Speaker 1: Hey Buck. I've been a fan since the Blaze days
Speaker 1: and love the podcast. Keep up the great work. I'm
Speaker 1: one of those who thinks this virus is an accidental
Speaker 1: leak from the bioweapons lab in Wuhan. It just seems
Speaker 1: too coincidental. I would probably think otherwise of the Chinese
Speaker 1: not acted like they did by welding people in apartment
Speaker 1: buildings withholding details on the strain, etc. I may have
Speaker 1: missed it, but I haven't heard you debunk this theory
Speaker 1: at length. I would love to hear CIA analyst Bucket
Speaker 1: action during this. Sean, I don't look the truth is,
Speaker 1: you know, one of the first being any kind of analyst,
Speaker 1: But certainly being a national security analyst, if you're going
Speaker 1: to be a good one, you gotta admit what you
Speaker 1: don't know. And I just I don't have any special
Speaker 1: insight or information about this bioweapons lab and the Institute
Speaker 1: of Virology in Wuhan other than it's ten miles from
Speaker 1: this wet market. But wet markets, remember, have been a
Speaker 1: site for zooonautical transmission from one animal to another for
Speaker 1: a long time. It's resulted in other pandemics, you know,
Speaker 1: SARS and for those who are wondering, you know about
Speaker 1: the naming of these things, even stars and acronym was
Speaker 1: considered offensive for a while in Hong Kong because SARS
Speaker 1: Hong Kong, it's called the Special Administrative Region SARE, and
Speaker 1: so they didn't like that the disease was being called
Speaker 1: SARS because it had its outbreak in Asia. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I just don't have a good answer for you, my friend.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think it was a Look, it's
Speaker 1: not an intentional outbreak that I do think we have
Speaker 1: to put aside. But you know, we'll see in terms
Speaker 1: of whether it broke out of that lab accidentally. Could
Speaker 1: be I don't think so, but I can't tell you. No,
Speaker 1: they've lost viruses before. That's established. That's fact. So how
Speaker 1: do we know that this one didn't? You know, think
Speaker 1: of how much now you start to crunch the numbers,
Speaker 1: how many wet markets operate in China, how much of
Speaker 1: that is you know? How much? How many times does
Speaker 1: that happen? How many people interact with that on a
Speaker 1: daily basis, And now all of a sudden this You know,
Speaker 1: you could say the numbers indicate that eventually this would
Speaker 1: happen in one of these wet markets. Okay, But you
Speaker 1: could also say, well, this has been going on for years,
Speaker 1: millions and millions of times, and this hasn't happened. So
Speaker 1: why did it happen? Now? Two ways to look at it.
Speaker 1: David buck I was in Israel during the Gulf War
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety one to January, and literally the entire
Speaker 1: country was on lockdown for a month, no cars in
Speaker 1: the road, nothing. They came out, all right, just spreading
Speaker 1: a little hope out there to all those who worry
Speaker 1: about this destroying our economy. It won't. Israel actually emerged stronger,
Speaker 1: and they have nearly as strong an economy as we
Speaker 1: do now. Shields high well, David, the thing about that
Speaker 1: was everybody now that, first of all, thank you for
Speaker 1: giving us some optimism here. It's really appreciated. Everyone looking
Speaker 1: at this now could say, well, hold on a second,
Speaker 1: if we knew, if we knew it's a country that
Speaker 1: we were going to be locked down for a finite
Speaker 1: period of time, and that we're finding a human enemy,
Speaker 1: I think we could handle that right now. What we're
Speaker 1: dealing with is the uncertainty of the duration of the lockdown,
Speaker 1: and that has impact on the economy in ways that
Speaker 1: it's very hard to predict, very hard to understand where
Speaker 1: this all goes. Lorie, Texas has no state income tax
Speaker 1: but really high property tax. Love your show. Interesting to
Speaker 1: hear about life in big cities during these unusual times. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you, Laurie. Yeah, I knew that about Texas, so
Speaker 1: I hadn't brought up recently. I know they have no
Speaker 1: state income tax where they got high property taxes, but
Speaker 1: still it would be nice to avoid that state income tax. Doug,
Speaker 1: new to your show, but not your message. I'm a
Speaker 1: forty seven year old country boy from Alabama trying to
Speaker 1: get myself and my mother, who is seventy six through
Speaker 1: coronavirus meltdown. Truth be told, she's in better shape than
Speaker 1: I am. Our parents are tough cookies. Indeed, my father
Speaker 1: has gone on to his great reward, but his memory
Speaker 1: is fresh in my mind. He taught me to hunt,
Speaker 1: grow food and use my common sense. I hope you
Speaker 1: make it through all the craziness in the big apple
Speaker 1: up there. I say rosaries for us, all shields up.
Speaker 1: God bless Doug, Thank you man, Thank you for just
Speaker 1: writing in a kind message of solidarity with the rest
Speaker 1: of the team with me, And you know, God bless
Speaker 1: you and your mom. And I'm sure you know you
Speaker 1: guys are gonna make it through just fine. And we
Speaker 1: need to rally to each other so much right now.
Speaker 1: And I'm a huge believer in that. Brandon wanted to
Speaker 1: remind you about us longshoreman, keeping the trade goods coming
Speaker 1: and going out here. Thanks for all you do, Buck,
Speaker 1: Uh Yeah, absolutely, Brandon. You know I can't think of
Speaker 1: all the jobs or rather, you know, extemporaneously, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be able to name all the jobs that are right
Speaker 1: now keeping us, keeping us alive, basically keeping us going.
Speaker 1: But absolutely, longshoreman, anybody who's involved in the movement of
Speaker 1: goods and whatever services are still out there right now.
Speaker 1: Everyone who's involved in making sure there's there's product in
Speaker 1: the stores, food on the shelves, you know, milk in
Speaker 1: the in the dairy aisle, bread in the bread aisle, whatever.
Speaker 1: You know, they're doing a tremendous service for all of
Speaker 1: us because they could stay home too, right They could
Speaker 1: be like, look, I know I need the paycheck, but
Speaker 1: I'm going to stay home for a few weeks and
Speaker 1: just see what goes on. Imagine if everybody who worked
Speaker 1: in a grocery store did that right now. I don't
Speaker 1: want to be exposed to the virus. I don't want
Speaker 1: any risk. Okay, that would be really scary for all
Speaker 1: the rest of us. So everybody out there, a longshoreman, truckers,
Speaker 1: you know, ups, drivers, grocery store clerks, people that are
Speaker 1: showing up, you know, as essential personnel for the utility companies,
Speaker 1: you know, making sure the water, trash garbage men you know,
Speaker 1: trash collection, garbage men, you know, all these different roles
Speaker 1: so important to us right now. And you know, you
Speaker 1: guys are and gals. I do I have to say
Speaker 1: that or can I just say you guys and I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna get in trouble. But you know, you folks
Speaker 1: are keeping this country going when we really need you
Speaker 1: to keep us going, and we all greatly appreciate it.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be a show for it to everybody. I'm
Speaker 1: really hoping tomorrow, you know, the President, I'll have a
Speaker 1: press conference. We'll have some good news to share, and
Speaker 1: that would be really nice. Please do give me your
Speaker 1: thoughts on what else you want to hear a day
Speaker 1: in and day out here, because we're gonna be in
Speaker 1: this for a certainly a while and I want you
Speaker 1: to get the most out of the show as you
Speaker 1: possibly can. So if you want me to just totally
Speaker 1: divert from coronavirus entirely for the third hour other than
Speaker 1: roll call, speak out, let me know. I'm here to
Speaker 1: serve all of you. God bless team. Take care of
Speaker 1: each other, take care of yourselves. Talk to you tomorrow.
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