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Speaker 1: First off, people, what you're you're saying really boring stuff
Speaker 1: about about beer? Yeah, I mean it's it's it's this
Speaker 1: is a road well traveled here. We're not not cutting
Speaker 1: a new trail. We're talking about how that you know,
Speaker 1: the perception is an I P A I must take
Speaker 1: a lot of time because of the complex flavors and
Speaker 1: how powerful the beer seems. But in reality, like a
Speaker 1: pilsner is so highly refined, it takes a lot more
Speaker 1: time to produce than than an I P A uh.
Speaker 1: And you know, like your German beer circles there's you
Speaker 1: get get a lot more respect for producing some highly
Speaker 1: refined pilsner. So it takes more skill to make miller
Speaker 1: light than in a triple I p A whoa whoa
Speaker 1: Your cores lights just a piggyback on on top of that.
Speaker 1: Pilsner's are are laggers, so they're cold. They're cold fermented,
Speaker 1: so it takes more time for the yeast. But that's
Speaker 1: part of why it takes so long. It's the east.
Speaker 1: I would rather hear people don't even need fire. I
Speaker 1: would rather hear people say UM. I'd rather go around
Speaker 1: the room and have everybody say, like when I cut
Speaker 1: my tone nails, I like to do, and have them
Speaker 1: go through the order that they do their tonnails, and
Speaker 1: then the next person says, well, I like it to
Speaker 1: do the same way where I started on the left
Speaker 1: and go It's like, I just what brought this up?
Speaker 1: Is um? Kind of the drink I'm having. My wife
Speaker 1: drinks a shipload of Chilada's, which is it's it's beer
Speaker 1: and comado juice. Yeah, anything, And we were um. Her
Speaker 1: her birthday happened that long ago, but I had to
Speaker 1: go away on her birthday early in the morning, and
Speaker 1: so we have been turkey hunting, and I arranged it
Speaker 1: when we got back from camping. Turkey hunting on the
Speaker 1: doorstep would be like a care package of things that
Speaker 1: I know she likes. And one of the things I
Speaker 1: know she likes is Budweise or Chelata or so I thought.
Speaker 1: So you home and they're like, there's like flowers, fancy chocolates,
Speaker 1: in a six pack of Budge, a lot of Tall Boys.
Speaker 1: So the next day, on her actual birthday, I totally
Speaker 1: forgot about her birthday and called her wants to complain
Speaker 1: to her about something that I thought she did and
Speaker 1: didn't do. Um, And she's nice. And I called back
Speaker 1: a minute later and she's like, oh, he must have
Speaker 1: remembered that it's my birthday, but instead I was calling
Speaker 1: her to tell her a different thing I need wanted
Speaker 1: her to do, at which point she got real uh
Speaker 1: mad that I had again forgotten all about her birthday.
Speaker 1: And I pointed out that I hadn't. I had just
Speaker 1: celebrated it the day before and reminded her about the
Speaker 1: Budge lattas, and she pointed out that she drinks bud
Speaker 1: Light cheladas, so it didn't even really count. Fail. So
Speaker 1: now I went home and found it in the fridge.
Speaker 1: It's the tall Boy bud and um, now I'm having
Speaker 1: it strength m'd rather enjoy it. Um of you guys
Speaker 1: heard this. This is interesting to talk about for a second. Here,
Speaker 1: they really I don't know anybody did this. They redid
Speaker 1: Bugs Bunny and Elmer Fudd. Are you wearing this? It's
Speaker 1: kind of all over the news. But they made a
Speaker 1: conscious decision that Elmer Fudd has no gun, so he
Speaker 1: still has dynamite. He still has like like Hi, he
Speaker 1: still has high intensity explosives. They're also going to allow
Speaker 1: him to hunt bugs Bunny with a with a side yea,
Speaker 1: as if that's like Elmer Fudd now to a side,
Speaker 1: he's he's been disarmed and like the creators of his
Speaker 1: cartoon Shore basically no, we're not doing guns. He still
Speaker 1: orders stuff like they're still doing the acne products. But man,
Speaker 1: a couple of things is all the best jokes were
Speaker 1: about the guns, like your barrel getting tied and n
Speaker 1: that's that. That joke never gets old. And then when
Speaker 1: he's down in the Appalachia they have like the blunderbusses
Speaker 1: and people put their fingers and then the barrel and
Speaker 1: all that. It's all it takes what's interested the thing.
Speaker 1: The first thing I thought about it. I don't know
Speaker 1: if anyways made this connection is there's a term like
Speaker 1: if you're a dude who just thinks about guns through
Speaker 1: the lens of hunting. You're like you you you run
Speaker 1: the risk of being called a fund, meaning you're not
Speaker 1: like supportive enough of gun rights because you just like
Speaker 1: hunting guns, and it's bad to be a fund. And
Speaker 1: here it's like it's almost like, uh, what happened to
Speaker 1: Elmer Fudd is what they say, what happened to all funds?
Speaker 1: You'll get like disarmed. So now here the poster boy
Speaker 1: for being a fund has been disarmed. On the Bucks
Speaker 1: Bunny Show, it feels to me like a you know,
Speaker 1: like it's all coming true. Feeling circumspect man. A guy
Speaker 1: wrote in he got a guy rolled into got fish cuffed,
Speaker 1: which is interesting. He was, he's a long haul trucker
Speaker 1: and he carries a tackle box rounding his stuff because
Speaker 1: he likes to stop fishing us in the Dakotas. And
Speaker 1: he goes in his tackle box to get out of
Speaker 1: a rappola and he's like, it's like real, he says.
Speaker 1: He describes it as a beautiful COVID nineteen evening, meaning
Speaker 1: apparently that no one's anywhere around, trips and falls and
Speaker 1: snags both his thumbs on the rappola, but his phones
Speaker 1: in his back pocket and there's his hands are so
Speaker 1: snagged he can't even get him out of his back pocket,
Speaker 1: and he's like bleeding all over the place and tried
Speaker 1: to and he's he's trying to wave people down. He
Speaker 1: needs to raise both of his bloody hands. So he's
Speaker 1: to raise both his bloody hands in the air to
Speaker 1: try to get help, which he says wasn't working, and
Speaker 1: eventually finds his way down to a bar, and everybody
Speaker 1: was so excited about their bar being back opened again
Speaker 1: that he was able to get himself taken care of.
Speaker 1: In North Dakota. UM, Cal's got big news. Go ahead, Cal,
Speaker 1: where do you want me to start? Like your this
Speaker 1: is your this is your um you know, it's like
Speaker 1: your your thing, the passage of the Oh okay, what
Speaker 1: news are you going to share with me on some
Speaker 1: hot dates? Oh yeah, I'm sorry. That Great American Outdoors Act.
Speaker 1: What do you where? Which one you want to start with? Uh?
Speaker 1: We can start with Great American Outdoors Act. That's a
Speaker 1: that's a great one. So you know, we've been harping
Speaker 1: on this for a long time because it's UM contains
Speaker 1: it's a big package that has a ton of bipartisan
Speaker 1: support and it. But even even though that existed, we
Speaker 1: still needed uh it to be introduced for consideration. Basically,
Speaker 1: word came down that uh, Mitch McConnell was gonna, you know,
Speaker 1: actually introduced the Great American Outdoors Act. We all got
Speaker 1: super excited, um, and there was this little bit of
Speaker 1: uncertainty that if it hit the floor because there was
Speaker 1: so much support um, that the little bit of dissenting
Speaker 1: voice out there, they're only opportunity to stop this public lands. Uh,
Speaker 1: this is very beneficial to people who like to be
Speaker 1: outside public lands, beneficial package. The only way to stop
Speaker 1: it would be to filibuster. So the package gets introduced
Speaker 1: and somebody has said, yeah, you want to debate this,
Speaker 1: and during that debate situation is when somebody could stand
Speaker 1: up and be like, yeah, hey, I got something I
Speaker 1: want to talk about, and just go until you can
Speaker 1: you can never get a vote red um. But what
Speaker 1: happened instead was they immediately moved um to go go
Speaker 1: directly to a vote. Uh. Instead, it's called clot tour
Speaker 1: cloth tour um. That sounds like a kind of yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: drinking a cloth tour um. Uh. And so you you everybody,
Speaker 1: and there's a big, very supportive vote seventeen. I think
Speaker 1: that said yes, let's move this thing on. So now
Speaker 1: it's done or it's not done. Sometimes have a hard
Speaker 1: time with news stories because I think that they're done,
Speaker 1: but they're not done. Yeah, well that's I did this
Speaker 1: post on Instagram that was like, hey, go check this
Speaker 1: out because I want you to be involved, and everybody's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we won. Well until the second I thought we had
Speaker 1: one yes, So all right, Uh, well the House has
Speaker 1: passed it, right, No, no, no, they voted the results.
Speaker 1: They just voted to vote yes to to skip the
Speaker 1: debate portion. It's gonna come back out, um early next
Speaker 1: week for the actual vote. So it's still very much
Speaker 1: a you know, stay on your elected officials. Um, this
Speaker 1: is by the time you're hearing this, it's all history.
Speaker 1: Do you think the uh, the overwhelming majority to vote
Speaker 1: to vote is a good sign? Yes, I would take
Speaker 1: it as a good sign because it eliminates one of
Speaker 1: the threats, um, which would be just the thing being filibuster,
Speaker 1: and for the sake of moving on with everything else
Speaker 1: that's going on in the country, we just gotta blow
Speaker 1: pass this good thing, which happens. Um. So yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's a good thing. It's it's very much progress right now.
Speaker 1: There's a bunch of uh Republicans and Democrats that have
Speaker 1: basically said, yes, we want to see movement on this thing, um,
Speaker 1: and that right there was an opportunity to stall it
Speaker 1: and open it up. So there's only seventeen dissenting voices,
Speaker 1: and um, of those seventeen, you know, there's folks that
Speaker 1: are you know, adamantly against any sort of support for
Speaker 1: public lands, uh, you know, kind of anti any Yeah,
Speaker 1: so really might be like Utah's no, no, and he's
Speaker 1: one of the folks that has been Yeah, he'll let
Speaker 1: you know that he doesn't like it. But did did
Speaker 1: people not like it from both spectrums? It was all
Speaker 1: the dislike coming from one direction. Oh, most of the
Speaker 1: dislike is coming from one direction. Um. And because there's
Speaker 1: there's no like list of the seventeen that I've been
Speaker 1: able to find, it should be available right well, because
Speaker 1: it's not. Yeah, but yeah, if you know you have
Speaker 1: founded or whatever the hell? Yeah, so um, but um
Speaker 1: Ted Cruz Red, who's you didn't like it? He don't
Speaker 1: look like he don't strike me as real outdoors And
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, he doesn't see the sun
Speaker 1: a lot. We can tell that. Um. You know, his
Speaker 1: famous quote is Texas has two percent public lands and
Speaker 1: that's two too much. M hmm. So he's he's not
Speaker 1: going to be voting on behalf of public lands. When
Speaker 1: the kids go out on their little scooters or whatever,
Speaker 1: where do they wind up? Umm? Well, I mean that's
Speaker 1: the hard part about doing this conservation work and working
Speaker 1: with people that don't want to. They still they can
Speaker 1: fight against all this public work stuff. I mean as
Speaker 1: like vehemently and ardently and just rally hard against it.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, they still got
Speaker 1: to go out and use it. They still got to
Speaker 1: go take it. There's probably people that are so um
Speaker 1: peer so pure that they would be like, I don't
Speaker 1: like it and I won't even go on it. Yes,
Speaker 1: for sure that exists. Oh yeah yeah. Um so so
Speaker 1: what happens now? Now it goes to the house. Yeah
Speaker 1: and it Uh they should wrap this thing up on
Speaker 1: Tuesday or Wednesday is the word on this on the hill,
Speaker 1: and then there will never be another problem. This is it,
Speaker 1: because then they don't have to go to the Senate.
Speaker 1: This is you, guys, This is the preliminary vote. No,
Speaker 1: this is not the preliminary vote. This was we're bringing
Speaker 1: this thing out onto the floor for debate. We voted
Speaker 1: to say we are not going to have a debate.
Speaker 1: We want to go to a vote. They're like, great,
Speaker 1: we're gonna bring this bag out next week and we're
Speaker 1: gonna vote, so everybody can study up on this. This
Speaker 1: is the house. Do you think that then it's going
Speaker 1: to go to the Senate? Yes, I'm right. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: he did say this American outdoors cloture vote. I didn't
Speaker 1: notice that tour, I think is what. Yeah, we get
Speaker 1: it all from the French that they were voting to
Speaker 1: debate it. Yes, but when they vote for real, it
Speaker 1: might be unanimous. It could very well be unanimous. It
Speaker 1: could very well, um be some a little bit of
Speaker 1: political games of Um, I'm gonna be a nice person
Speaker 1: and push it this way so everybody knows, but then
Speaker 1: I might dinghy in the back when we go to
Speaker 1: the actual vote. Um, you know, there's there's a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff that that's still up in the air, so
Speaker 1: um yeah, I mean it's it's another deal. Like we
Speaker 1: had an incredible amount of out pouring from uh you know,
Speaker 1: people that listen to the to the show and listen
Speaker 1: to the weekend review um and follow everybody's social channels.
Speaker 1: I was talking about the Great American Outdoors Act. Incredible
Speaker 1: amount of people wrote in and said, you know, I
Speaker 1: have never ever done this before, but I actually got
Speaker 1: ahold of my senator. You want something interesting, Yanni called
Speaker 1: his tell me. I called the representative Gene Forte. Yep.
Speaker 1: Left in a message at his Washington, d C. Office
Speaker 1: because the weekend it was Saturday, so it's got a
Speaker 1: voicemail or not a voicemail. I left a voicemail on
Speaker 1: a machine. He's like, yeah, what's up. I lived just
Speaker 1: down the street from you, Bozeman, Montana. All I gave
Speaker 1: him was my name in the city that I lived in.
Speaker 1: And then on Monday, I received an email from his
Speaker 1: office saying thanks for reaching out. That's customer service. I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know what what you want to
Speaker 1: call it. That's next level customer service today. Actually we're
Speaker 1: able to find you on his email and email him yes,
Speaker 1: are you not getting already? Previously had John record, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a solid CRM. But even then even then I
Speaker 1: was impressed. Man, Yeah, I like when little things make
Speaker 1: you feel proud of, like our system. When I took
Speaker 1: someone a small claims court, I walked away field. I
Speaker 1: was patriotic for months after that. What happened when I
Speaker 1: had a dispute with the landlord and uh, the house
Speaker 1: I was rent and burnt down, and I thought, since
Speaker 1: it burnt down, I feel like it was my fault.
Speaker 1: Someone else they knew what caused it. The house burned down.
Speaker 1: I was like, I feel like I should get like
Speaker 1: my brant back because I didn't burn it down. But
Speaker 1: now I can't go into it because it's burnt down.
Speaker 1: And they're basically like no, And that was really getting
Speaker 1: on my nerves and eventually got him a small claims
Speaker 1: court and the judge spent the whole time yelling at him.
Speaker 1: And you just sat there. I just sat there, and
Speaker 1: the judge is like, you've got no problem. The checks
Speaker 1: come rolling in and you just cash him, and then
Speaker 1: there's a problem, and then dude, dude do and just
Speaker 1: I don't started to feel bad for the person. Judge
Speaker 1: so irritated, but he proraded the month or whatever. Judge like,
Speaker 1: give us money. Yeah, The judge like all they do
Speaker 1: is yell at the person of America. They're kind of
Speaker 1: the judge like moment, what what you have? Nothing? That's like,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Yeah? That's great. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: I guess let's let's recap here Senate voting. It's not
Speaker 1: clothe Tour. No too Cloe Tour all right now, if
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a vote next week, that is a
Speaker 1: vote vote like yeas nays to move this bill on that.
Speaker 1: You know. The final step is the executive branch, right,
Speaker 1: this bill has gotta hit Trump's desk and he's got
Speaker 1: to sign it. Yeah, he'll sign it. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: he he's voiced public support for this already and he'd
Speaker 1: be over ridden anyway. It's it's very um you know,
Speaker 1: this is something everybody wants right now. So it's coming
Speaker 1: out of his and it's got big support from the
Speaker 1: Interior Department anyway. So good, Okay, Now tell us about
Speaker 1: the next thing. Cal or do we want to take
Speaker 1: a break and talk about the song about Yanni? Too
Speaker 1: much news? Is it too much news? In a row
Speaker 1: of cal goes into more news. I like the idea
Speaker 1: of breaking it depends. Is it an uplifting story like
Speaker 1: the one that He ended with, last time we were
Speaker 1: all together, it's up. Yeah, I'd say it's uplifting. You
Speaker 1: want to do the land access, That's what I want
Speaker 1: to talk about. Now, let's break it up and talk
Speaker 1: about because we gotta talk about another song later. So
Speaker 1: I feel like rather than talking about two songs later,
Speaker 1: which I thought would be a good idea a minute ago,
Speaker 1: and I want to talk about one song now where
Speaker 1: Yanni I wrote it. I started trying to work on
Speaker 1: a song about Yanni set to um the ballot of
Speaker 1: Davy Crockett and someone found where someone did it better
Speaker 1: on what's that on? Fill? Can you play it for
Speaker 1: us real quick? They didn't strum along or anything. The
Speaker 1: lab Vian eagle has a keen game. He wears a
Speaker 1: power ring. It makes him extra slide his trek and
Speaker 1: polls known from making big bears cry. If you hear blouch,
Speaker 1: kiss your ass good bye, Yanni, Yanni Chumani, he's one
Speaker 1: hell of a god. It's really nice, man, I mean,
Speaker 1: just really about it just came right together, Yanni him.
Speaker 1: The way the song came about as we were in
Speaker 1: oblivion with the Chimani tribe and I was going to
Speaker 1: write a song about if Yanni decided never to go home. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think that was spurred on by because you
Speaker 1: were having a lot of thoughts and visions, like you
Speaker 1: like to play a sort of like what if game
Speaker 1: with yourself movies, and it involved like, you know, if
Speaker 1: something were happened to my wife and my family and
Speaker 1: I had to restart again be down here because a
Speaker 1: lot of what we saw they don't No, there's nothing
Speaker 1: wrong with it, but they don't keep up their homesteads
Speaker 1: of their village is the same way that we do
Speaker 1: here in the States a lot. And I really wanted
Speaker 1: to clean everything up. You really want to like spruce
Speaker 1: it up. So you had you had these visions and
Speaker 1: organized grand visions of you know, giant village is all
Speaker 1: nice and tidy, lawnmow, fishing equipment organized, and um, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I guess from there when you realized that
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna really happen, then you you spawned that into
Speaker 1: this song. Yeah, it was all about Yanni. But and
Speaker 1: that's what we came up with Yanni. The best part
Speaker 1: of that trip, I don't want to name who it was.
Speaker 1: One of the guys we worked with had just had
Speaker 1: to had just had to call it off with a girlfriend.
Speaker 1: Do you think we're okay to talk about this? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he had had to. We're gonna do then we got
Speaker 1: we got some introls we gotta do. He had had
Speaker 1: to call it off with a girlfriend because it's like weird,
Speaker 1: it's a weird reason I had to call it off
Speaker 1: of someone. He's one of our guys was dating a
Speaker 1: girl who had a cat, a house cat, and she
Speaker 1: would talk to him as though speaking through the cat
Speaker 1: in a baby voice, in a cat baby voice, a
Speaker 1: cat baby voice. This is someone whose name is familiar
Speaker 1: to everyone, right, Well, I'm gonna give him a different
Speaker 1: name right now. Let's say his name is Dave. So
Speaker 1: if Dave was laying there and the cat was there,
Speaker 1: she would be across the room and she'd be like, Dave,
Speaker 1: I'm here to be bad, okay. And he couldn't handle it,
Speaker 1: um and he had to call it off. So what
Speaker 1: happened though? While we're down there that Chimani were explaining
Speaker 1: to us that there's a woman that will go into
Speaker 1: the river. It's a it's a demon like like like
Speaker 1: an extra what's the word I'm looking for? Like spirit?
Speaker 1: A spirit, a spirit that goes into the river, the
Speaker 1: evil spirit. A beautiful woman, a beautiful nude woman. We'll
Speaker 1: going to the river and pretend to drown, and she'll
Speaker 1: seduce men to come out to save her, and then
Speaker 1: she'll grab them and pull them. Sirens like a mermaid
Speaker 1: siren tank. Yeah. So somehow Phil's story about the cat
Speaker 1: and this woman got uh conflated to it became that
Speaker 1: there is a woman in the river who goes You
Speaker 1: gotta redo it now with Daves. I thought it was Dave.
Speaker 1: We reimagined it. We reimagined it where these two things
Speaker 1: got conflated to where there was a siren who would
Speaker 1: go into the river and be Dave, come safe. My
Speaker 1: fool is always and I believe the one night that
Speaker 1: we we we fished that hole until dark and then
Speaker 1: some of that your minds hung back and maybe even
Speaker 1: fished into the darkness. And when they came back, some
Speaker 1: of them were claiming that they had heard Yeah, yeah, boy,
Speaker 1: it's just the one that they were. Um, let's do introductions.
Speaker 1: I failed to do that. Then we're coming back to you,
Speaker 1: cal Kevin, Yeah, um. Kevin Wilkerson, marketing director at Weatherby,
Speaker 1: do you mind recapping for people super quick about your thumb,
Speaker 1: quick story all the time. This is the main thing
Speaker 1: we talked. We talked about it today at the rain
Speaker 1: and I was like, I can't believe he brought it
Speaker 1: back up. It's the main thing we talked about, told
Speaker 1: at least a dozen people anytime. The first time we
Speaker 1: heard it was in my place for dinner was and
Speaker 1: sex time I heard it was better the second time.
Speaker 1: The first time I heard it the first time we
Speaker 1: were remember when we were witnessed to a mild catastrophe
Speaker 1: at sheep shape show, almost witness to a mile catastrophe
Speaker 1: a sheep show. It was a catastrophe that I almost
Speaker 1: witnessed that inspired you to tell the story about your thumb.
Speaker 1: I guess that's true. Yeah, And then I guess when
Speaker 1: you we were in a little putting now I asked
Speaker 1: you about it again. Oh, you asked me about it again.
Speaker 1: So yeah, the first time I heard it, it's it's
Speaker 1: actually caused productivity issues for us. We talked about I'm glad.
Speaker 1: I'm blad people think it's a good story. It's I
Speaker 1: don't know if I believe it it's And that's why
Speaker 1: I'm not going to recap it because it's a very
Speaker 1: unbelievable story, and I think a recap would do it
Speaker 1: no justice. And we're gonna share this story with our listeners.
Speaker 1: We gotta get the whole kit and caboodle. I'll do
Speaker 1: a quick do you mind, You can tell it another time.
Speaker 1: You don't need to tell it right now, but I'll
Speaker 1: tell the short version unless it doesn't makes you uncomfortable. No, oh,
Speaker 1: heck no, I don't care. Cut off his thumb right
Speaker 1: at the knuckle. At the knuckle and gecko like he
Speaker 1: regenerated his thumb to a point. Yes, and it doesn't
Speaker 1: feel quite right, but it's definitely there. But if you
Speaker 1: look at his two thumbs, I don't around the table.
Speaker 1: I don't think that anyone here you heard your story, bro,
Speaker 1: Actually one of the few people who haven't. The right
Speaker 1: thumb is regrown. The left thumb sh things your regular thumb.
Speaker 1: This is the look. They're definitely different. They are thumb
Speaker 1: nails substantial. The nail is like double times is thick.
Speaker 1: It's definitely a different. I feel like I've been set
Speaker 1: up and you gotta look close. It doesn't have a
Speaker 1: doesn't have the same. What I did too, is I
Speaker 1: gave it a couple of patient he is it bigger
Speaker 1: than the others. Yeah, it's way bigger. Yeah. I actually
Speaker 1: palm a basketball with my right hand and I can't
Speaker 1: palm a basketball in my left and and it's all
Speaker 1: because of the thumb being a little bit longer. Like
Speaker 1: the Bionic film, I got to hear the detailed version.
Speaker 1: It's it's a grinder. I mean, it was a very
Speaker 1: it was a gruesome accident. I think we'll have you on,
Speaker 1: and i'd like you when you when you come on,
Speaker 1: I want to tell the full thumb story and then
Speaker 1: tell the the full story about the sign you found
Speaker 1: in the last year. Okay, but I also want to
Speaker 1: know what about the drumstick in the eyeballs. I like
Speaker 1: that story, and I like the stuff about catching the
Speaker 1: wild drum stick in the eyeballs. Rugged, Wow, you got
Speaker 1: some good ones. Sign the sign he found in Alaska,
Speaker 1: amazing story. Actually told that story, like last week, somebody
Speaker 1: asked me about it because they were at the house.
Speaker 1: They said, hey, what's that sign? I said, Oh, it's
Speaker 1: one of my best stories. Like chair, it's gonna take
Speaker 1: a while. If you recorded on the podcast here next time,
Speaker 1: then you can just yeh, it's episode. I'm gonna call
Speaker 1: that episode Kelvin Wilkerson's Greatest Hits. Yeah, that's all injury lady,
Speaker 1: except for the sign. Anyways. That's me glad to be here.
Speaker 1: Oh did you say what you do though? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a director of marketing and customer service. Whether we
Speaker 1: sharedan wyoming guy, Luke Luke Torkelson, I'm the vice president
Speaker 1: of Sales, Marketing and Productive Element at Weatherby, and my
Speaker 1: thumbs have not regenerated. You just got thumbs you're born with.
Speaker 1: The regular old thumbs are kind of boring. Well, Um,
Speaker 1: Brodies here, phil We already here from Philip Brody. Me
Speaker 1: and Brody just turned in uh for a group project.
Speaker 1: Mostly turned in our Wilderness Skills and Survival Book, which
Speaker 1: early estimates are that it will be about six hundred
Speaker 1: could around six hundred pages, last one you'll ever need.
Speaker 1: That sounds like a lot of value. But they're not
Speaker 1: gonna make you split it into two like they did
Speaker 1: the Complete Guy Hunting. That's a good story. People knows
Speaker 1: when we did the when we did the Ore I'm
Speaker 1: stumbling here. When we did our Complete Guide to Hunting,
Speaker 1: Butchering and Cooking Wild Game. That was intended to not
Speaker 1: be volume one and two. It was intending to be
Speaker 1: one big book. But that was a large format color
Speaker 1: book with the Brazilian photographs in it. So the publisher
Speaker 1: was like, you can't. We're not gonna make a seven
Speaker 1: page book, like they just don't do that, especially color
Speaker 1: and big. And she's like, either gotta like, we gotta
Speaker 1: figure it out, so either throw half of it in
Speaker 1: the carbage or make it too And that's how that
Speaker 1: came to be too. I'm not glad. Yeah, but this one,
Speaker 1: there's no splitting up. Yeah, you'd have to do like
Speaker 1: nine books, nine small books, so giant book. Uh, illustrations,
Speaker 1: beautiful illustrations, the same illustrator if you look at the
Speaker 1: complete guy. Did he do illustrations in the cookbook? I
Speaker 1: don't believe we had any illustrations in the cookbooks? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he did do this ill straighter did do Yanni's
Speaker 1: special bandana series. That's rights how a go to do
Speaker 1: your bandana? Speaking of Yanni, He's got a couple of
Speaker 1: choice stories and Janni. Yanni's contributions in the book are
Speaker 1: so good we call him Jannis. People are sidebars. It's
Speaker 1: it's it under sells, It under sells these callis Yanni's inputs.
Speaker 1: Yanni on avalanche, Janni on spike camps, Yanni on all
Speaker 1: manner things in more, Yanni on the bears on pepper
Speaker 1: spray pistol debate. It's a good one, which he points
Speaker 1: out that one time he had his pistol and his
Speaker 1: pepper spraying. A bear came at him and he grabbed
Speaker 1: his treking pole. So when the rubber meets the road,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but in theory, here's what I was
Speaker 1: going for. But I had a really nice compliment about
Speaker 1: that book, and so directed at you guys, was that
Speaker 1: the book was very entertaining to read and story like,
Speaker 1: but was equally balanced with like good skills and education.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's a good como. Yeah, I mean stories like
Speaker 1: you were telling helped out with that bars get yours, Um,
Speaker 1: it'll be coming out. It'll be a while, but you
Speaker 1: know what you want to hear some hard salesmanship when
Speaker 1: that book comes. I'm talking to you people out there,
Speaker 1: when that book comes out, make no bones about it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come and like prepare, start saving your money
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, because when that book comes out. Um,
Speaker 1: we got screwed out of the best seller list with
Speaker 1: our fish and Game cookbook. I was so excited just
Speaker 1: for personal reasons and also just for general reasons to
Speaker 1: have it be then on the New York Times best
Speaker 1: seller list was a fishing game cookbook. I could go
Speaker 1: into a long story, but why we sold plenty of
Speaker 1: books to make the list, but the way they count,
Speaker 1: they were all quick less not publishing. Here, We're getting
Speaker 1: way off track. That's what people need to know this.
Speaker 1: So when you look at something in the New York
Speaker 1: Times best seller they don't they want to see it
Speaker 1: sold from a variety of sources. Because there's a thing
Speaker 1: where people can buy their own book onto the best
Speaker 1: seller list and now and then the book will make
Speaker 1: the best seller list and it gets accused of bulk accounts.
Speaker 1: So because if the if the if the weather is right,
Speaker 1: you could have a nonfiction book come out and sell
Speaker 1: like you know, four or five thousand copies and hit
Speaker 1: the best seller list in certain categories. So people with
Speaker 1: means have at times orchestrated their own best sellers where
Speaker 1: they just they had moneies on an object for them
Speaker 1: and they've they've gamed it. So what the Times likes
Speaker 1: to see is they like to see it's sold uh,
Speaker 1: all around the country from a variety of sources. Then
Speaker 1: what they like to see is they actually they actually
Speaker 1: do it. So at certain independent bookstores are two x
Speaker 1: when they when they run their formula. We sold all
Speaker 1: the books that were in print, We sold before the
Speaker 1: book came out, all through Amazon. So by the time
Speaker 1: the book came out, it was already it was already
Speaker 1: back ordered thousands of copies, and we had sold enough
Speaker 1: through pre orders to hit the best seller lists. In fact,
Speaker 1: we know the exact numbers of what the best seller
Speaker 1: because our publisher had a bunch of them. We know
Speaker 1: we sold more copies than books that beat us on
Speaker 1: the best seller list, but it didn't count because they
Speaker 1: had all been single source pre orders through Amazon, so
Speaker 1: the numbers were not accepted. So this time, man, we're
Speaker 1: talking about it pretty early. What is it June? We're
Speaker 1: talking about something's gonna happen in like November, December. But
Speaker 1: get ready, yeah, start asking your local books store now,
Speaker 1: plan on not getting it through Amazon? Is that what
Speaker 1: we need to tell them? Just they just need to
Speaker 1: buy it all over like you gotta buy it from
Speaker 1: a lot of places, multiple copies all up weather be
Speaker 1: asking if you got saying Amazon if you have, but
Speaker 1: if you have the option of buying it at a bookstore,
Speaker 1: do that. No, We're we're gonna we got it all.
Speaker 1: The problem is that that the enthusiasm for the book.
Speaker 1: Do you remember we did an episode of the podcast
Speaker 1: called Begging and Pleading. It was like, basically, we just
Speaker 1: told everyone's in the book. I think that to walk
Speaker 1: through this new book's gonna take it's gonna be begging
Speaker 1: and pleading part to A and B. Yep, you see
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And we're gonna spend two episodes walking
Speaker 1: through the book. Everybody's got a order of the book,
Speaker 1: Just prepare yourself. I don't think it's going to be
Speaker 1: expensive per page. It's gonna be like barely that much
Speaker 1: money per page. You're right, But I tell you what,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be an expensive podcast the viewers because
Speaker 1: of all this stuff they gotta do. Yeah, yeah, we're
Speaker 1: not done. We're not done. You're not done selling, not
Speaker 1: even close. Okay, So we gotta move on towards sales park.
Speaker 1: We gotta introduced Adam. That was his three oh seven
Speaker 1: hat area code. Yep, okay, not four our six, not
Speaker 1: two oh six, and not nine oh seven three O seven,
Speaker 1: one of those one of the small handful of single
Speaker 1: area code states. For residents of that state tattoo that
Speaker 1: area code onto their arm, and then I wonder what
Speaker 1: happens when they split the area code or where a
Speaker 1: hat we had Actually that's for people who aren't very committed.
Speaker 1: We did a serial number of a gun and auctioned
Speaker 1: it off for I don't know what, fifteen grand or
Speaker 1: some fourteen or fourteen or fifteen thousand bucks because it
Speaker 1: was serio number three oh seven w y zero zero
Speaker 1: zero three zero seven fifteen grand for it. Really, there
Speaker 1: was a large subculture of people that are obsessed with that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: in Alaska, everybody gets nine oh seven tattoos and whatnot.
Speaker 1: But I feel that at some point they're gonna split
Speaker 1: the area codes. When I was a little boy, my
Speaker 1: area code was six six. Now it's to three one
Speaker 1: of what do I do with my tattoo? Then I'd
Speaker 1: have to change it into like the mark of the Beast. Six.
Speaker 1: Not gonna do that. No, I don't know. You're just
Speaker 1: stuck with the side. So be forewarned. Well, when people
Speaker 1: see that, they're just like, oh, he's o G. Or
Speaker 1: you put a little number next to it and say
Speaker 1: see footnotes and you can start tattooed footnote. So, Cal,
Speaker 1: the Land Access Initiative, you just came back from a location.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can tell people what the
Speaker 1: location is or not. Yeah, I just came back from
Speaker 1: kind of a secret mission to Maine and UH I
Speaker 1: was working with some nonprofits. UM, so you know, it's
Speaker 1: essential travel for the good people. It's work related. It's
Speaker 1: got to be good. It's work related and essential for
Speaker 1: the people. So quick recap, big thank you to everybody
Speaker 1: who's purchased ronella who tell us campaign merch Ronella patels.
Speaker 1: Like we said, the proceeds from all of those sales
Speaker 1: are going to more hunting and fishing somehow, someway, We're
Speaker 1: gonna find access projects that provide more. That's the baseline. UH.
Speaker 1: And we reviewed an incredible amount of submissions over the
Speaker 1: last few months and started reaching out and and talking
Speaker 1: to individual UH project owners across the US real quick.
Speaker 1: With that process looked like for you, Cal, like what
Speaker 1: you asked of folks. Yeah, so there's a big questionnaire
Speaker 1: and then there are follow up questions, but uh, you know,
Speaker 1: essentially it was you know, how familiar you are with
Speaker 1: the project, what it provides, like, is it access to
Speaker 1: a landlocked chunk of ground as it accessed water? Doesn't
Speaker 1: provide opportunities for hunting and fishing both? What else can
Speaker 1: you do out there? What's the habitat like? Is this
Speaker 1: a habitat improvement project? Um? And really, you know, trying
Speaker 1: to whittle down to because the hard part with this
Speaker 1: stuff is you are never ever going to talk to
Speaker 1: somebody who's like, yeah, it's not that great of a place,
Speaker 1: but I just thought i'd throw it in there. You know,
Speaker 1: everybody is very attached to their project, their piece of ground. Uh,
Speaker 1: and they're and they're very passionate about it. Let me
Speaker 1: take this back one quick, one step even further back
Speaker 1: that what we're doing is we're maybe you just just said
Speaker 1: this not just being stupid, didn't catch it, but we're
Speaker 1: trying to we're raising money through Ronella who tells trying
Speaker 1: to do to try to do some to try to
Speaker 1: do land acquisition. Yes, and so cal was um soliciting
Speaker 1: input where people who are the eyes and ears on
Speaker 1: the landscape, people who would say, oh, you know, it
Speaker 1: would be a sweet property if we could get into
Speaker 1: the public domain. Yes, it was. Sorry, no, that's great.
Speaker 1: I mean, um, the you know, I'll tell you right now.
Speaker 1: And if this is you please right in call um
Speaker 1: like the pie in this guy idea. Is someone out
Speaker 1: there listening is going to be like, oh, well grandma,
Speaker 1: granddad there they'd be totally happy to shave off a
Speaker 1: long strip that connects to that huge chunk of national
Speaker 1: forest that nobody can get to or BLM or something
Speaker 1: like that. And and through a phone call and cutting
Speaker 1: a check And wouldn't that be a sweet river access
Speaker 1: on a chunk of river lake where no one can
Speaker 1: get into it? Yeah? And uh, you know, we just
Speaker 1: make a permanent easement for to get to get to
Speaker 1: the public to go down there and enjoy um. And
Speaker 1: then there's a huge variety of of projects that that
Speaker 1: came in that were more complex the you know, we
Speaker 1: ended up with folks that like, actually we're serious, filled
Speaker 1: out everything, uh the way you're supposed to and had
Speaker 1: an actual spot um that wasn't a mix of vague details,
Speaker 1: um two to sixty four full submissions. Yeah. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: and you know like I said, these were the people
Speaker 1: that were serious enough to be putting in some thoughts
Speaker 1: and then got those uh down quite a bit, um
Speaker 1: to to something man gible. And now you're out doing
Speaker 1: some Now you're out hitting the ground to try to
Speaker 1: get the smell of the place. Ye and me a
Speaker 1: beautiful photo of a waterfall. Yeah, and he found some
Speaker 1: moose and deer tracks. Yeah. And this place is is
Speaker 1: pretty unique because it's a body of water. Um. That is,
Speaker 1: the property is contiguous and and in the heart of
Speaker 1: this continuous property is a small lake, a pond um.
Speaker 1: And uh, it's it's really cool. Uh. You know our
Speaker 1: editor in chief, Anthony Locatta, Uh, he worked for a
Speaker 1: very long time at Field and Stream. Before that publication
Speaker 1: was called Field and Stream, it was called Forest and
Speaker 1: Stream was the predecessor to Field and Stream. And this
Speaker 1: body of water, uh was actually adver tized as a
Speaker 1: place for folks to get out of the city and
Speaker 1: come up and fish in. Yeah, yeah, they so are
Speaker 1: you Is it secret or not secret? I don't want
Speaker 1: to say that the actual township. Yeah, but this is
Speaker 1: this should give plenty of idea, right like right now,
Speaker 1: it's it's de facto public access it's in it's in Maine,
Speaker 1: but it is private property. And what a lot of
Speaker 1: folks don't realize about Maine is there is a ton
Speaker 1: of access in the state, but it is primarily private
Speaker 1: ground that just isn't posted. Don't you. I don't want
Speaker 1: to get out ahead of ourselves here, but we're gonna
Speaker 1: make a pledge to personally not ever go there to
Speaker 1: fish or anything. Listen to this, because I don't want
Speaker 1: anyone to think that it was that it was aish
Speaker 1: Judy Fisher Hill. Yeah a little bit, you got it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's just like taking it for he's taking it for
Speaker 1: a test ride, man, and then don't go back. Uh
Speaker 1: this camp that they had in their effishing their weekend
Speaker 1: take was five hundred trout damn. Is it a property
Speaker 1: that connects two more property? Yes, it does. It does
Speaker 1: more access than just the property. It's it's a multi
Speaker 1: year thing right now, it does, you know. But like
Speaker 1: I said, there's with the the convoluted part of this
Speaker 1: thing is uh there you know, there's groups working on
Speaker 1: providing permanent access. Right now, there's access to that ground,
Speaker 1: but it's not permanent. It's permanent in the fact that
Speaker 1: the landowners that have it now, are its still have
Speaker 1: the mindset that's been around Maine for a long long
Speaker 1: time of I'm not using all this ground. I don't
Speaker 1: need to post it. Folks want to occasionally walk through
Speaker 1: here to deer hunt or pick mushrooms or whatever, that's
Speaker 1: fine by me. Hunt grouse. We saw a ton of
Speaker 1: a ton of grouse, ton of rough grouse. Um. And
Speaker 1: uh yeah. But the hard part is is as these
Speaker 1: lands change over right, there used to be like these
Speaker 1: giant timber company lands up there. There still are some
Speaker 1: major timber company lands. Um. That's really what people are
Speaker 1: are doing a lot of hunting and fishing on. But
Speaker 1: it's private, just like you guys experience here in western Montana.
Speaker 1: There's kind of this de facto access program wiser lands
Speaker 1: and yeah, and it's been around for so long people
Speaker 1: are like, oh, that's just they don't even know what's
Speaker 1: private property and they think it's us for a service
Speaker 1: ground or something like that. Um, but it's like it
Speaker 1: changes hands one more time and that new buyer is like, well, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm the privacy is what I want. Doesn't matter if
Speaker 1: I'm only there a weekend or whatever. So it's the
Speaker 1: goal to get a chunk shaved off that will just
Speaker 1: allow access to the public ground that's behind it. Uh.
Speaker 1: The goal right now would be to you, uh, would
Speaker 1: be to purchase this acreage that includes the pond um
Speaker 1: that there's a defined easement in place right now, little
Speaker 1: parking area, um footage, it's right now. It's foot access
Speaker 1: only into the pond um and it the cool part
Speaker 1: here is this township has zero public land owned by
Speaker 1: the township, and this would be the very first chunk
Speaker 1: of public land. Even though like it's it's fully documented
Speaker 1: that this township people growing up and living and raising
Speaker 1: families there. They've they've been utilizing this place, um since
Speaker 1: you know, well before got a little publicity and forest
Speaker 1: and stream. But because it toured a new one on traveled,
Speaker 1: they toured a new one in the raft and they're like,
Speaker 1: bring more camps. There's a lot relieving out because like
Speaker 1: a little like details. But uh, where we might land
Speaker 1: is this. So we got some money in the in
Speaker 1: the in the campaign confers. Um. But the election happens
Speaker 1: in November, right, so we'll take office. It's like the
Speaker 1: campaign will be going anymore. Um, we'll have a new
Speaker 1: Secretary of egg dug during we got our whole cabinet,
Speaker 1: a T F Ronnie Bam, Pat Durk and Secretary of
Speaker 1: the Navy. We got the whole cabinet filled out. But
Speaker 1: in the meantime, as long as you buy Ronald Patels
Speaker 1: better hunting and Fishing for America stuff, it goes into
Speaker 1: the our kiddy of money. When our kiddy of money
Speaker 1: is right and we identify our place, there might be
Speaker 1: a discrepancy, right, And when we identify what exactly that
Speaker 1: discrepancy is, there's gonna be a mad dash for to
Speaker 1: to find ways to get the support we need to
Speaker 1: push it across the finish line in a hurry. But
Speaker 1: don't dig into your book buying money. You gotta have
Speaker 1: a severate pile of money. We're gonna you're gonna have to.
Speaker 1: You got a many piggy jars here, um uh, your
Speaker 1: piggy banks rather the The other thing to keep in
Speaker 1: mind is, just like I said, you're never gonna go
Speaker 1: out be invited out to check out something that people
Speaker 1: don't care very passionately about. They all have an incredible
Speaker 1: amount of value um and I I do not want
Speaker 1: people to think like this is a one and done
Speaker 1: thing like, Um, this is uh the something the Cabinet's
Speaker 1: gonna push very strong for for multiple years, UM and
Speaker 1: hope that we can have just a long lasting program
Speaker 1: funded permanently fund exactly just like l WCF. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: the cow and Cal's work on this, he's expanded or
Speaker 1: this isn't This isn't a one off. This is not
Speaker 1: a one off. So Cal's gonna become like Ted Turner
Speaker 1: ranches and stuff all over the place, the inverse of like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know about ranches all over the place, but yeah,
Speaker 1: so this this is a cool project. Uh. Found some
Speaker 1: moose tracks, found some deer tracks. Uh, there's a loon
Speaker 1: that comes in there every night. Um, catch any fish?
Speaker 1: One mallard in there? I uh my longlined released some
Speaker 1: some very small brick trout um and then uh what
Speaker 1: the heck else to really found two really cool frogs.
Speaker 1: Um still did a little uh chewing on some different
Speaker 1: plants species. Uh you go swimming? Is it a good
Speaker 1: swim pond? Yeah, it would be if it's deep. So
Speaker 1: I wasn't jumped in the water here in June. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you thought it would be chill? Yeah, where the Skeeter's
Speaker 1: bad I have a mosquito bite or like right in
Speaker 1: the very top of the gluteo crease that happens to
Speaker 1: be since I know, so when you scratch that, people
Speaker 1: think like you're not clean. Well yeah, and on top
Speaker 1: of that, like because I don't don't have a lot
Speaker 1: of meat on my butt, my pants like to ride
Speaker 1: right about there. It's just it's highly irritating. So as
Speaker 1: if we didn't want to shake hands for COVID, now
Speaker 1: we don't want to shake hand for exactly exactly. So that'sdemic.
Speaker 1: There's a huge project in Wyoming that's that's very cool. Um,
Speaker 1: that's that's being worked on by Shoutout three or seven. Yeah. Um.
Speaker 1: And there's a great project here in Montana that I'm actually, um,
Speaker 1: gonna have a phone call on here this evening too.
Speaker 1: So you haven't made the call yet, but you flew
Speaker 1: out there just to kind of feel it out right, Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Pavement for Yeah, the pavement for Access man. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then there's so much more to go like this. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Like I said, we're gonna we're gonna be beaten on
Speaker 1: this stuff for a long time because um, you know,
Speaker 1: it's now or never for all of this stuff. I'd
Speaker 1: like to buy a whole state. Would because the whole
Speaker 1: state when you go to the meteor dot com to
Speaker 1: buy some Ronella Patelis merchandise, don't limit yourself or don't
Speaker 1: think that you're gonna limit yourself to a T shirt.
Speaker 1: There's hats, there's brown ones, there's Blaze orange ones, hunters
Speaker 1: orange for hunting season, sticks, bumper stickers. I think there's
Speaker 1: a small oval stick or two. There's a reusable cloth
Speaker 1: bag if you don't like to use the old plastic
Speaker 1: bags the grocery store. What else? Yard signs? Do they sell? Those? Really?
Speaker 1: Do we have? Yard signs? Might be coming? It was
Speaker 1: a salesman for a while Tarming and Sports. I can
Speaker 1: tell um he was a salesman and then he was
Speaker 1: the song and we just played it is actually called
Speaker 1: long tang Yanni, isn't it? Because he was a grill
Speaker 1: man that uh, don't tell me, Joannie. He's a grill
Speaker 1: man at Tuscaninis. Good work. And he was a salesman
Speaker 1: at Tarming Sports and he led in did you leading sales?
Speaker 1: Yeah no, no, that wasn't definitely not No. We don't
Speaker 1: keep track. What's going on? Tell us what's going on
Speaker 1: the weather. Be you guys are all getting all cozy
Speaker 1: in your new headquarters. Yeah, no doubt about that. We are.
Speaker 1: We're actually actually shut down. Did you get shut down
Speaker 1: because of No, it's it's the three or seven. We
Speaker 1: do what we want. Um, they still respect liberty down there. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my wife heads up HR so that's helpful too. But no,
Speaker 1: we got a direct line. No, we had. You know,
Speaker 1: we didn't shut down, but you know, we had. We
Speaker 1: got a big factory. Were all able to kind of
Speaker 1: social distance keep our things going. We got a lot
Speaker 1: of room in there. Yeah, yeah, we do. I mean
Speaker 1: it's it's all you gotta depend on a supply chain
Speaker 1: from around the world coming in and customers to ship too.
Speaker 1: So every day there for a while it was a
Speaker 1: little hectic trying to figure out what's going on. But
Speaker 1: we're all healthy and we're making guns. Did you um,
Speaker 1: did you guys run into problem uh, problems where components
Speaker 1: you needed were coming from places that weren't able to
Speaker 1: produce components. Yeah. The reason to bring this up is
Speaker 1: that was at sports was warehouse. We're going fishing this
Speaker 1: week up with the kids. I had to go grab
Speaker 1: like you know, sinkers, bobbers, bait holder hooks, all that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. The tends to get left and all
Speaker 1: the trees around the intends get left push around um
Speaker 1: to stripped clean. I mean the store is stripped clean.
Speaker 1: I'm guessing that's a function of supply chain and demand,
Speaker 1: you know, to it's it's really both. I mean in
Speaker 1: firearms right now, obviously everybody's been kind of reading there's
Speaker 1: crazy things going on. Are are our product line because
Speaker 1: we're kind of more of a you know, primarily hunting,
Speaker 1: you know, less self defense and that sort of thing.
Speaker 1: So we didn't see the spike. Everybody else same with
Speaker 1: just the sustenance and going out there and harveston mile
Speaker 1: meat and catch the mole fish and just getting outdoors.
Speaker 1: Finally too, I think there's a delay on that and
Speaker 1: people have been a little trapped. And but the supply
Speaker 1: chain was certainly there. I mean, we have a lot
Speaker 1: of components. Say go into one rifle and so I
Speaker 1: mean one spring can hold up a whole rifle from
Speaker 1: going out the door. But you didn't run into that.
Speaker 1: We ran into not not bad, We ran into some stuff.
Speaker 1: We were kind of fortunate and yeah, maybe not even weeks.
Speaker 1: But we were fortunate. Some of the bumps we had
Speaker 1: were the things we already had product of, and the
Speaker 1: things we needed we kind of had, so we're just yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't really appreciate the lengths of where that of
Speaker 1: how that stuff would affect manufacturing. But I was even
Speaker 1: trying to find a part for jet foot on an
Speaker 1: outboard engine, and well, I call this guy and he's like, man,
Speaker 1: you and everybody in the country. I'm like, how many
Speaker 1: people are actually looking for like an impellers sleep because
Speaker 1: they're all gone. There's like one guy in California that
Speaker 1: makes him he can't go into his plant because there
Speaker 1: are none. If you find one. Let me know. The
Speaker 1: weird demand and the supply chain stuff, and I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's weird. And of course we you know, shipped
Speaker 1: a gun dealers around the country and everybody with FFLs,
Speaker 1: and it's like, man, we had a COVID hold list
Speaker 1: of just different states and different things and who you
Speaker 1: could chip two and who you couldn't lose. Definitely nuts
Speaker 1: For a while, some of our distributors had some of
Speaker 1: their best days in history, like ten of them in
Speaker 1: a row, and so they're telling us, hey, pause for
Speaker 1: a minute on some of the hunting stuff because we
Speaker 1: gotta get nine mill and two to three m O
Speaker 1: up in. Yeah. Yeah, but that's probably cool. I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe that's cool off a little bit. Now we're in
Speaker 1: riot season. Yeah, I still think it's pretty Yeah, it
Speaker 1: actually upticked again now with all the violence in the
Speaker 1: country and stuff, so it's everybody's scared. Yeah, So it's
Speaker 1: you know, we've seen fear bind over the years, politically
Speaker 1: driven a lot or unfortunately, say after you know, some
Speaker 1: sort of tragedy in the country, some guys come out
Speaker 1: say we're gonna, you know, pull an out more fund
Speaker 1: on you and you know that sort of thing, and
Speaker 1: you know, take your guns, and it spikes and for
Speaker 1: us in our line, like people like, wow, he must
Speaker 1: be selling a lot of guns right now. We're again
Speaker 1: we try to make just a good quality product for
Speaker 1: you to go taking the outdoors. It's not as much
Speaker 1: that fear buying stuff, but it affects the whole industry.
Speaker 1: So the demand is different, what dealers stock is different,
Speaker 1: what they have, what they don't have, where their attention is,
Speaker 1: so the whole thing kind of affects. It's a kind
Speaker 1: of a giant you know pool that everything kind of
Speaker 1: gets mixed up in. But for us, we just like stable,
Speaker 1: like this is what our customers want, we want to
Speaker 1: make it, we want to get it to them. So
Speaker 1: it's a it's a little different rather than the because
Speaker 1: after a big high, you get a big lower because
Speaker 1: then you get everything overstocked. Everybody discounts it, rebates it,
Speaker 1: and so it's a little messy. So we just try
Speaker 1: to provide more consistency. We were I can't remember who
Speaker 1: else taking the other day, we were visiting about the
Speaker 1: the um, either the real or perceived twenty two ammo
Speaker 1: scare of what the hell here was that? But the
Speaker 1: thing is like it feeds on itself because I never
Speaker 1: thought anything about twenty two shells. I mean, I always
Speaker 1: if I need twos, i'd go and buy like one
Speaker 1: of those slidey c C I whatever, like, hey, there's
Speaker 1: twenty two shows. But the minute I heard it was
Speaker 1: the shortest twenty two shells that walk into a store
Speaker 1: and I see twenty two shells and I'd buy them all.
Speaker 1: Or you see, like there's a limit of a limit
Speaker 1: of one thousand, twenty two shells, and I'd be like well,
Speaker 1: I'll be damn if I'm not buying a thousand even
Speaker 1: though I need zero. That's right. And I even saw,
Speaker 1: like during that shortage, it was that I was in
Speaker 1: a Cabela's one time. You couldn't buy twenty two am
Speaker 1: if you didn't get a Cabella's credit card. To get AMMO.
Speaker 1: You had sign up for a credit card I remember
Speaker 1: you had. If you you can only get it if
Speaker 1: you bought a gun. Like I remember I would walk
Speaker 1: into Best Pro Shop and you could buy a twenty
Speaker 1: two rifle and you only got the twenty two AMO
Speaker 1: if you bought that rifle. Little combos like that flying
Speaker 1: all over the place. And then there's articles being written
Speaker 1: where people thought that there's all these conspiracy theories, but
Speaker 1: it was basically in the end, it seems like the
Speaker 1: main argument is UH, people to manufacture ammunition, tool up
Speaker 1: to manufacture certain kinds of ammunition, and then they tool
Speaker 1: up and do other runs, and they were just busy
Speaker 1: doing not two. It is true making AMMO, you gotta
Speaker 1: do big, big runs of certain things. There's really long
Speaker 1: lead times, like making brass you know doesn't happen overnight,
Speaker 1: and you know, getting powder there can be powder shortages
Speaker 1: to the different things. So it is true, like you
Speaker 1: can't just flip a switch, you know, and do that.
Speaker 1: Like it's months of planning in advance for that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so two shells and now uh and masks. Yeah, thing like,
Speaker 1: because I'm not loading my own AMMO anymore? Can I
Speaker 1: like collect all my weather be brass and just send
Speaker 1: it to an address and you guys will take it
Speaker 1: back and make it into come down with the pocketful
Speaker 1: will help you out? Or like for Federal ammo, can
Speaker 1: you have all that brass and just chip it off
Speaker 1: to Federal just as like a recycling program. What happens
Speaker 1: if you mail it back to him? Yeah, we actually
Speaker 1: sell our once fired brass that we use in our
Speaker 1: testing brass. Yeah, as we go through it, we repackage
Speaker 1: it into over packaging and we sell it because it's
Speaker 1: you sell it as brass online. We'll just go, okay,
Speaker 1: we got a bunch of it from our ranges and
Speaker 1: then just put it on like a day later. It's
Speaker 1: just gone going and eat it up. Like is it
Speaker 1: like a like a mixed platter, like a chef's platter.
Speaker 1: You don't really just sweep up the floor into a
Speaker 1: garbage bag instead. They're not making jewelry out of the stuff,
Speaker 1: so they don't have a spent primer. So you gotta
Speaker 1: get the primer out on your own and if you
Speaker 1: want to tumble it, whatever you want to do. The
Speaker 1: guys that want it, you just count and you sell it.
Speaker 1: You just sell it as doom people a favorite. It's
Speaker 1: not like a lot of money. It's better than us
Speaker 1: just recycling it, because that'd be the next best things.
Speaker 1: We can't sell it as new ammo if if it's
Speaker 1: already been shot, because it's you know, the annealing lines
Speaker 1: is gonna be a little bit different and it's gonna
Speaker 1: look a little more dull, So we don't it's not
Speaker 1: worth the time to retumble and reanneal and do all
Speaker 1: that stuff. So you guys had some really nice brass. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well thank you, honest nice brass. The how many times
Speaker 1: can you read the lood a shell? Oh, it's depends
Speaker 1: on the brass, and it depends on the cartridge. It does,
Speaker 1: so anywhere give me a more satisfying answer. That's a
Speaker 1: rabbit hole. Five. Yeah, the comments will fly in. Well
Speaker 1: I've done don't know. Yeah, I mean there you'll find
Speaker 1: people that will say they'll only load it three times,
Speaker 1: and then you'll have people that depending on the load
Speaker 1: that they make, that they've developed, that they've shot for years,
Speaker 1: they might load it five times. The risk being that
Speaker 1: something eventually weakens. Yeah, but you find that in the loading,
Speaker 1: not in the shooting. So your neck, you know, as
Speaker 1: you're resizing, it's going to begin to have problems that So. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's not the integrity of it necessarily, you know
Speaker 1: when you're firing it, but you can tell when it's
Speaker 1: you know, the neck might start to crack. Um, you
Speaker 1: know a different things as you're doing it sort of
Speaker 1: just weaken. Now you generally see it before you pull
Speaker 1: the trigger. You know it was played out. And uh,
Speaker 1: but you when you sell ammy, you don't sell one.
Speaker 1: People aren't into that. What all of our m o's
Speaker 1: never been fired, I mean on the on the case itself.
Speaker 1: So and then when we're doing our testing or load
Speaker 1: development or whatever, we've got to just piles and piles
Speaker 1: of brass. So we'll just sell that as once fired
Speaker 1: brass after we shoot it. How many times do you um,
Speaker 1: does every rifle get shot? Good question, Yes, every rifle
Speaker 1: actually gets a proof load. Through it. Okay, so not everyone,
Speaker 1: you know, we still thousands against Um, I'm not personally
Speaker 1: going down Everybody thinks my grandpa, did I know that
Speaker 1: I go down there personally shoot a target and send
Speaker 1: it off to everybody. But um, obviously we we a
Speaker 1: lot test for accuracy, and do I mean we accuracy
Speaker 1: test with you know, two underground ranges. You guys have
Speaker 1: seen it, and we do accuracy testing every single day. Um.
Speaker 1: So whether that's we got a new barrel, whether that's
Speaker 1: we got a new cartridge, a different load, a different
Speaker 1: type of prowder powder, a different lot of you know,
Speaker 1: certain bullets, a different lot of brass, I mean everything.
Speaker 1: You a different contour barrel, different type of steel in
Speaker 1: the barrel, a different type of carbon fiber. But all
Speaker 1: those things are going to affect the accuracy betting. So
Speaker 1: all of those things send us down to the range.
Speaker 1: Every gun, every rifle is actually shot with a proof load,
Speaker 1: and that proofload is actually loaded hotter, so like it's
Speaker 1: we actually there. The loads are colored so you know that, um,
Speaker 1: they're beyond you know usually say a load depending upon
Speaker 1: the cartridges in the low sixty thousand something p s.
Speaker 1: I So obviously we're that's what's going on inside the chamber, correct,
Speaker 1: So you know, we're delivering a product every day to
Speaker 1: customers that are putting you know, sixty plus ps I
Speaker 1: within inches somebody's face. That's what's your tire on your truck.
Speaker 1: So it's like it's obviously something you're not underneath truck.
Speaker 1: You're putting it foot and a half away from your
Speaker 1: kid's head, you know. So it's it's crazy stuff. So
Speaker 1: obviously the development our action is really important there so
Speaker 1: that we and tell the integrity of it. So every
Speaker 1: rifle that we produce has a proofload through it and
Speaker 1: in depending on that load, who makes those proofloads either,
Speaker 1: it depends, like the Ammo companies actually do so different
Speaker 1: Ammo companies do. We make some, but then we'll get them,
Speaker 1: you know, you can buy them through. I mean, you
Speaker 1: name an Ammo company, you know they're gonna probably have
Speaker 1: a proofload department. Oh, I don't know about that. I
Speaker 1: don't think so, I don't know, because what it is
Speaker 1: is you're giving it. So if it's let's say normally
Speaker 1: you're sid max p S. I getting technical here. I
Speaker 1: know you do that on your podcast from time to time.
Speaker 1: But the Sammy speck kind of the governing regular governing agency.
Speaker 1: If you would of those safety type of things for firearms,
Speaker 1: let's say it's sixty that proofload could be eighty five
Speaker 1: p s I. So if a guy goes in hand loads,
Speaker 1: not that we've ever had any customers put the wrong powder,
Speaker 1: say in the cartridge before ever the wildcat. No. No,
Speaker 1: we have a customer service department for a reason, but
Speaker 1: for a lot of reasons. But so we actually put
Speaker 1: that so it's hot in there. So if for some
Speaker 1: reason all the things went wrong, uh, customer handload, put
Speaker 1: different pattern, all those things that we know that the
Speaker 1: structural integrity of that action is going to hold up
Speaker 1: with a proofload in there. UM. So every rifle has
Speaker 1: a proofload that goes through it. Uh. And then uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: we have like a it's a proofload uh fixture trap.
Speaker 1: So it's not like you're scoping that up and going
Speaker 1: down to the range because you're not doing anything for accuracy.
Speaker 1: When you're doing you want to make sure it functions.
Speaker 1: So we actually have a fixture that we put it in,
Speaker 1: UM and it goes into that fixture and it's in
Speaker 1: a room about the size of this podcast room, and uh,
Speaker 1: there's a there's a blast shield that comes over it.
Speaker 1: So any and it's triggered remotely if you do have
Speaker 1: some kind of thing, right, we do value the lives
Speaker 1: and health of our employees, so so it goes in,
Speaker 1: so it goes into this trap you know, kind of
Speaker 1: in the room. So it's just a safety type of
Speaker 1: thing that happens with it. Um and then the accuracy
Speaker 1: happens on a frequent basis. But not everyone you know,
Speaker 1: is shot and that depends we have a range certified
Speaker 1: type of thing or you know, custom guns are a
Speaker 1: different story. But yeah, and then so the reason that's
Speaker 1: great to know, I don't know all that, but the
Speaker 1: reason was asking is too much info? Do you know?
Speaker 1: Not at all? But do you then go clean it
Speaker 1: so someone doesn't buy it and it looks like it's
Speaker 1: been shot. Do people look and they want to look
Speaker 1: like I've been shot? Well, there's an actual process and
Speaker 1: then you know, plus there's a break in procedure that
Speaker 1: we recommend for our rifles as well, So you know
Speaker 1: that somebody's gonna do um, you know, upon getting their rifles.
Speaker 1: So they're gonna you know, get it and do a
Speaker 1: bunch of break in, So usually you want it to
Speaker 1: dirty up just a bit. How real is the break
Speaker 1: in process in your mind? So I feel like it's
Speaker 1: like a thing that a lot of people just ignore. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So we actually just did our weather be podcast. We
Speaker 1: did a full episode on break in because it's one
Speaker 1: of the most asked questions we get. Meaning they phrase
Speaker 1: it like, do I really have take the time to
Speaker 1: do forty rounds of whether be munition down the pipe?
Speaker 1: Does it help? Does it not? I still can't get
Speaker 1: to shoot. So we actually, um, we actually just updated
Speaker 1: our breaking process about a month ago. Our engineers have
Speaker 1: actually been doing a lot of a lot of testing
Speaker 1: on that recently to really see and and to be honest,
Speaker 1: it does help. And it's fling and cleaning. So you
Speaker 1: have the you know, the rifling process of that barrel.
Speaker 1: Accuracy is so dependent upon barrel quality inconsistency, and so
Speaker 1: you have a chunk of steel that you've really put
Speaker 1: a lot of stress into. So you've drilled it, you've
Speaker 1: reamed it, you've rifled it, honed it, you know, done
Speaker 1: all these different things, lapped it to the inside of
Speaker 1: that barrel, and so a lot of it, you know,
Speaker 1: as that bullet catches the rifling inside of there and
Speaker 1: those lands and grooves and as it travels through there. Um.
Speaker 1: Really what you're doing is is breaking in the inside
Speaker 1: of that bore um in essence, so that as it
Speaker 1: goes through there's consistency um as it does that. Obviously,
Speaker 1: it's not like we send it out with birds. I mean,
Speaker 1: all those things are checked. But really, when you're firing,
Speaker 1: you're truly breaking that in I guess you know, but
Speaker 1: you're you're, in some minor way changing the inside of
Speaker 1: it until it gets like to a state of bullets
Speaker 1: going through that thing so fast that it's that it
Speaker 1: is changing it a little bit at a time. And
Speaker 1: so when you send three bullets down it, you know
Speaker 1: are breaking procedures. Three shots clean it, three shots clean it.
Speaker 1: Which asked me, if I ever do that? Yeah, so
Speaker 1: that's it's a loaded question. Anyways, it's a loaded question, Tea.
Speaker 1: You've got a lot of people that won't adhere to
Speaker 1: it and probably are just fine. And then you've got
Speaker 1: a lot of people that buy a weather be rifle
Speaker 1: that's a quality item and they follow the procedure, and
Speaker 1: that's good. It's good either way. But as we've seen
Speaker 1: testing in the recent months, uh and as we look
Speaker 1: at it on data from the engineers. I personally do
Speaker 1: think it matters. We got graphs and I mean, so
Speaker 1: we've done all that and it does matter. I have
Speaker 1: picked vanguards out of a box in a three hundred
Speaker 1: weather being just gone down to the range and shot
Speaker 1: subb half minute, you know of angle groups, I mean,
Speaker 1: just just right out of the box. There's there's so
Speaker 1: much of a variance to even from barrel to barrel
Speaker 1: of the same factory, bullet to bullet, and that's what's crazy,
Speaker 1: and it's hard, and it blows engineers minds a little
Speaker 1: bit because they don't like it. They like to say,
Speaker 1: here's a formula and this works. And there are certain
Speaker 1: things obviously to make an accurate rifle, like inherently accurate.
Speaker 1: But it's amazing the variation that you will get in
Speaker 1: anybody's rifles from gun to gun bullet, you know what
Speaker 1: loads it might like. You might have a you know,
Speaker 1: a six weather be I have a six factory in
Speaker 1: a wather the same model, and yours likes a different
Speaker 1: bullet than mine. It's crazy every time. It is probably
Speaker 1: because that that barrel is whatever is long, and there's
Speaker 1: just differences in there. We need to come back to
Speaker 1: this when we talk about the next thing, because there's
Speaker 1: a good tie in to the to the next thing
Speaker 1: and break in and what happens to a group on
Speaker 1: a personal collaboration type thing that we're gonna cal went
Speaker 1: out today and uh and shot a group and the
Speaker 1: first two was was actually we thought the second shot
Speaker 1: missed the paper, but it was through his first same hole. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like Robin Hood, dude, he broke it in today and
Speaker 1: actually shot four and five, he shot five. One and
Speaker 1: two were in the same one and four and five
Speaker 1: were in the same hole. Really, how far apart were
Speaker 1: one in two and four and five? And what happened
Speaker 1: to three? Well, three was solid question between their less
Speaker 1: than an inch and a half apart. Three was only
Speaker 1: from one and two. Three was I would say point
Speaker 1: six point seven away from one and two. Four and
Speaker 1: five got a little bit high high or something group,
Speaker 1: But real quick the breaking period before we leave leave
Speaker 1: that basically forty rounds at shots at a time, and no,
Speaker 1: not forty So you said forty I think something said
Speaker 1: give us the summary. A one is there's a lot
Speaker 1: of information on weatherby dot com. But um uh you can.
Speaker 1: We suggest now one box of AMMO. And we did
Speaker 1: this strategically because it's difficult. We don't want people to
Speaker 1: have to buy more AMMO than they need to use.
Speaker 1: Because amo in in today's time, even if you're shooting
Speaker 1: six five creed more is fairly expensive, even compared to
Speaker 1: any magnum load you're looking at. AMMO prices have just
Speaker 1: gone up in general. But um we suggest a one
Speaker 1: box break in. We wanted to make it less than
Speaker 1: forty rounds, and with all the testing we've recently done,
Speaker 1: we felt confident in being able to change that break
Speaker 1: in period to a one box um and so we
Speaker 1: suggest doing it with two different loads because as Adam said,
Speaker 1: it might like a one thirty or it might like
Speaker 1: a one forty. And if you're gonna shoot it anyways,
Speaker 1: grain bullet. If you're gonna shoot it anyways and pick
Speaker 1: the best bullet, you might as well figure out which
Speaker 1: one it is during break in. It also just helps
Speaker 1: with the fouling of the barrel. So we suggest a
Speaker 1: one box break in. It's generally I believe three shots clean,
Speaker 1: three shots clean, resting in the middle because of the
Speaker 1: heat of the barrel. You want it to cool um
Speaker 1: and in the middle of that you'll know a lot
Speaker 1: about your rifle. By the end of the break in,
Speaker 1: do you got to clean that rifle or that barrel
Speaker 1: six or seven times during that session? And when you
Speaker 1: say clean it, you're talking like, so this is the
Speaker 1: other side of your conversation, is that that's also very
Speaker 1: much so up to the shooter. Uh. Some people might
Speaker 1: use hoppies or hops, whichever way you want to say it,
Speaker 1: or two brands. I don't understand. It's just number three.
Speaker 1: So no, is there any arguments you made for the
Speaker 1: it not not being hoppies? I I just hear I
Speaker 1: hear different all the time. There's there's a number of
Speaker 1: board cleaners that work. I think the key is that
Speaker 1: you get it wet, you clean it, and then you
Speaker 1: patch it till it's dry. I'll tell you what, I
Speaker 1: got a bottle of it. Man, It's like it feels
Speaker 1: like like you could get real high off it. What
Speaker 1: the sweet seven point six to You got to be
Speaker 1: careful with that stuff. That stuff is heavy duty. Well
Speaker 1: it's it's like but it's a it's for getting copper out.
Speaker 1: I get yeah, and you can get copper. Another subject
Speaker 1: I bought full on head deal. You know what I'm
Speaker 1: trying to say, respirator, respirator just for cleaning in general.
Speaker 1: I got I got for gun cleaning. I got to
Speaker 1: be like, I don't know, man, you just in there
Speaker 1: and it's you know, really, Stephen Ronnella, that ain't gonna
Speaker 1: be what kills you is respirator. He and Brody just
Speaker 1: got done with the best book ever. He just doesn't
Speaker 1: want to lose any of that good stuff. Yes, Steven Ronell,
Speaker 1: that ain't gonna be what kills you. Roannella, Uh, that'll
Speaker 1: give you a bad headache. That's what I found. I
Speaker 1: found that I felt that, um it was subtle, but
Speaker 1: I felt that my when I'm certain solvents, I felt
Speaker 1: I would I was getting a little like a little buzz.
Speaker 1: No once by the time I muld have been like
Speaker 1: to go out and smell my solvents, but not at
Speaker 1: this At this point in my life, I don't need
Speaker 1: any I mean, maybe I'll have uch a lot of
Speaker 1: but I definitely don't need like chemical buzz. Yeah. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot o data in our data. Around round twelve,
Speaker 1: it was consistently when you would start to see um
Speaker 1: improved group flattening out? Yeah, no, kidding. Cool. And when
Speaker 1: you guys are cleaning them, are you cleaning them cleaning
Speaker 1: them bristles and wire brushes? Yeah, But if it's a protocol,
Speaker 1: if if you're suggesting something, we don't don't they have
Speaker 1: a protocol. You were not talking against ms nor engineers.
Speaker 1: They're down in the basement and they have a very
Speaker 1: tight protocol. We don't know that protocol. That protocol, Kett
Speaker 1: saying that phone grew right back, texting just fine over here,
Speaker 1: does your phone recognize the growing back thumb because it
Speaker 1: was before it was before the well, I'll tell you,
Speaker 1: I froze my thumb this winner and and uh my
Speaker 1: phone wouldn't recognize my frozen thumb. Oh no, sometimes this phone,
Speaker 1: depending on yeah, depending on certain times. I've once multiple
Speaker 1: times tried to touch a button, been like, I don't
Speaker 1: know what if you regenerated thumb. This is the regenerated thumb.
Speaker 1: Series calls him by a different name, Dave, are we
Speaker 1: waiting for you to do? I was looking at that.
Speaker 1: I was looking at that. Go go to weather dot
Speaker 1: com and check out the barrel break in person. You're
Speaker 1: also gonna tell about something. So I remember all the
Speaker 1: piggy banks everybody's got laying around, So you got your
Speaker 1: piggy bank to buy the book. Yeah, tell the name
Speaker 1: of the book, Brony the Meat Eater's Guide to Wilderness
Speaker 1: Skills and Survival. No, you got it wrong. We we
Speaker 1: we batted around because listen, it was the Metator Fishing
Speaker 1: Game Cookbook. So we thought there was a minute where
Speaker 1: we're almost going to change tack and call it meat
Speaker 1: Eaters the like Meat Eaters Guide to Wilderness Skills and Survival.
Speaker 1: But then in the end went with the meat Eater
Speaker 1: Guide to Wilderness Skills and Survival have been apostrophe as
Speaker 1: or as apostrophe. Good question. You didn't get apostrophe. And
Speaker 1: my my beloved agent Mark I thought that, um for
Speaker 1: like when people are searching stuff, He said, you don't.
Speaker 1: You don't change stuff like that, man like searchability on books,
Speaker 1: you know, like when people you want everything to be consistent.
Speaker 1: So that's what it is. It's a sweet cover at all. Anyway,
Speaker 1: that's only a small portion of your piggy banks and quarters. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a bank. Then you got bank for buying up
Speaker 1: all Cal's ranch land and ponds and whatnot. That tell
Speaker 1: us campaign merchandise where your proceeds go to providing more
Speaker 1: or better hunting and fishing for America, not Cal's private
Speaker 1: land bank. But it is the man which is deeded, damn.
Speaker 1: And they're all just like I never read the contract.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. Cal just buying all
Speaker 1: this stuff for himself. And what you're gonna need to
Speaker 1: go hunt Col's land if he lets you on is
Speaker 1: our new rifle. That's right now. I could call it
Speaker 1: the meat Eater weather Be you call the weather Be
Speaker 1: meat I'll leave that up to you. What we call
Speaker 1: today when we're filming it is the weather Be Vanguard
Speaker 1: Meat Eater Special Edition. How about the meat Eaters Special Edition.
Speaker 1: Whether you're trying to Steve and giant letters and weather
Speaker 1: vangor we're on top of the world. So the weather
Speaker 1: Being Vanguard Meat Eater Special Edition rifle, which we I
Speaker 1: think we recorded a podcast probably March a last year.
Speaker 1: We start to have a dialogue about it, I think
Speaker 1: a little bit because I'd be like, you know what
Speaker 1: you ought to do? Yeah, you've done that a few
Speaker 1: times now, Steve. We did a little over a year later,
Speaker 1: and I remember we just sat around and kind of said, hey,
Speaker 1: what about if we eat? Since we're partners now and
Speaker 1: you know, uh, you know, doing these things together, let's
Speaker 1: try to do something that's unique, different in, something that
Speaker 1: has a lot of features that are important to you guys.
Speaker 1: And it's coming out later this month, June June. And
Speaker 1: speaking of can we talk about I was talking? Can
Speaker 1: we talk about the place I was talking about earlier? Yea, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean we're doing Yeah, let's do it in it's
Speaker 1: actually exclusive, first time anybody's ever heard about it. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: this podcast will be the first we find sports and
Speaker 1: where else. It will be exclusively at Sportsman's Warehouse and
Speaker 1: weatherby dot com. You can buy it directly from weatherby
Speaker 1: dot com if you drove here. Here's my here's my my,
Speaker 1: my promise. Um. I've learned a lot of terms. One
Speaker 1: of the terms I hate is the term value proposition. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I'm not going to use that, but that's what
Speaker 1: you mean, that's what you want to use. Why should
Speaker 1: you buy this thing? Yeah? Like, here's my like a
Speaker 1: value proposition. If you were to make a line, a
Speaker 1: line representing like like, um, quality and a line representing
Speaker 1: um being like, what's the word I'm looking for, economically responsible,
Speaker 1: what's a better term for that? This is where those
Speaker 1: lines like listening to your wife about buying no, like,
Speaker 1: no thing is gonna do this better than that. That's
Speaker 1: what I think we tried to do in this rifle.
Speaker 1: I mean it is another way of saying, is you
Speaker 1: get a little bang for your buck. Yeah, that's that's yeah,
Speaker 1: in terms of bang for your buck for like a
Speaker 1: a thousand dollars. You know, it's not thousand dollars a
Speaker 1: thousand dollar rifle that's like custom rifle features just cool looking,
Speaker 1: good shooting, available in multiple cartridges. It's just that you're
Speaker 1: not gonna like you are, am I allowed to say
Speaker 1: this kind You're not not gonna do better? That's this
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Yeah, you're right, Yeah, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it is that it is that value and in that
Speaker 1: sweet spot less than a thousand I mean will be
Speaker 1: on the sportsman's warehouse shelf. You know, you can go
Speaker 1: pick it up. And one of the things I think
Speaker 1: that's really cool about it is it looks real different.
Speaker 1: And I think Steve, that's one thing you guys shared
Speaker 1: with us initially is like, what's something we could do that.
Speaker 1: When you look at that, you go, that's the weather
Speaker 1: be meat eat gun that meets something or other. Uh No,
Speaker 1: but you know that's that meat eater rifle that's there,
Speaker 1: and that's different. And so we uh, this is our
Speaker 1: first production rifle that we've ever done with a spiral
Speaker 1: fluted barrel. We've been fluting barrels probably since the nineties. Uh.
Speaker 1: Actually having it, which you know aids in heat dissipation,
Speaker 1: primarily adds a little bit to the rigidity of the barrel,
Speaker 1: but but really it helps it to cool more because
Speaker 1: it gives it more surface area. But really we say
Speaker 1: all that and that's cool, but people buy fluid barrels
Speaker 1: because they look cool and they look different, and that's
Speaker 1: the number one reason. And then this one has spiral
Speaker 1: old flutes which kind of make it even stand out more.
Speaker 1: And that was something when you guys like, what can
Speaker 1: we do? We haven't done. You can tell you're walking
Speaker 1: down Sportsman's warehouse, Wow, that up to that glass case
Speaker 1: full of pistols and knives, and that you'll be able
Speaker 1: to tell from a long ways away we gotta meat
Speaker 1: eater logoed floor plate on it on the bottom, so
Speaker 1: when it's sitting in the gun rack, you'll be able
Speaker 1: to see the cool meat Eater logo from behind the
Speaker 1: pistol counter as well. And those I think will be
Speaker 1: in the paint job because we did the Seraco with it,
Speaker 1: tried to match Serco to the metalwork with our don't
Speaker 1: go light on Seraco because that's like, because there's nothing
Speaker 1: more depressing. And I've had this hat to me. You
Speaker 1: buy a new rifle and just watching the thing rost man,
Speaker 1: like if you go out, you know, and it's one
Speaker 1: trip to the old fish shack. Yeah, you go to
Speaker 1: the fish shack and just watch your stuff. Ross is depressing.
Speaker 1: It's hard and people, it's like at the end of
Speaker 1: the day when you're back at camp or in your
Speaker 1: tent or in your like, are you thinking, I really
Speaker 1: gotta wipe down every piece of that gun that got
Speaker 1: wet today, Like you're not. And so it is good
Speaker 1: to have the corrosion resistance of the seracode on there.
Speaker 1: So the whole action's got tungsten Saraco finish on all metalwork. Right,
Speaker 1: that's the color of it's dull, which in a lot
Speaker 1: of circles you think, well, doll is not good. But
Speaker 1: Chuck Hawks said that, you know, the high polish what
Speaker 1: do you call high polish? Blue Steve blue blue barrel.
Speaker 1: He's like, you don't know how many animals lives have
Speaker 1: been saved by those pretty rifle barrels. Right, so it's
Speaker 1: nice to have a nice dull Loki. There's no shine
Speaker 1: gonna be coming off that spiral fluting. What was the
Speaker 1: Chuck Hawks Uh? What was the Chuck Hawks quote We
Speaker 1: put into one of the and one of the guide books.
Speaker 1: It was about twenty two. No, we had too because
Speaker 1: he had one quote about his um, his his dislike
Speaker 1: of gun writers. Oh yeah, you know he is a
Speaker 1: gun right, yeah, but I think you chose to put
Speaker 1: in Chuck's Hawks Chuck Hawks quote about gun writers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's in there, but also is twenty two his thing
Speaker 1: about like how much he likes in there anyhow? Um.
Speaker 1: And then custom pain job on the stock to match
Speaker 1: that Tungusen serica. We got a really talented paint team
Speaker 1: and shared in Wyoming, and every stock fampainted. It's got
Speaker 1: three ways. It's got three way safety explained, like explained
Speaker 1: you like the three position statemen. Weird. I love it.
Speaker 1: We're hunting Wyoming last year and you remember talking about that.
Speaker 1: I think you like it well. I like it because
Speaker 1: it allows you to open you know, it allows you
Speaker 1: to open your bolt without need to put the gun
Speaker 1: on fire. It seems safe, which for I feel for
Speaker 1: people who just are getting familiar with firearms, it's a
Speaker 1: nice feature. Is to piggyback on that. I think it's
Speaker 1: very nice for the mentor who was next to the
Speaker 1: person who's getting used to firearms to have that visual
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's just another thing like when you're
Speaker 1: next to somebody you're spotting, there's that animal on the
Speaker 1: hillside first and on whatever. Um, it's a very easy
Speaker 1: visual check to see exactly what's going on and sometimes
Speaker 1: what the problem is. Safety still on, he's got to
Speaker 1: go all the way forward. Yeah, that's that's my thing
Speaker 1: with it is. I think with with someone who, you know,
Speaker 1: a more experienced shooter, it's never gonna be a bad
Speaker 1: thing to have it. But a more experienced shooter just
Speaker 1: like much more aware. You know, you're more aware of
Speaker 1: muzzle control, right. But when it with people that, um,
Speaker 1: there's no downside to it. But people who don't have
Speaker 1: that that level familiarity. I think it's just like another thing,
Speaker 1: and it reduces the confusion of when you go to
Speaker 1: open your bolt and then you confuse like do I
Speaker 1: put it on fire to open the bolt? Is that right?
Speaker 1: And you know it just lets you do that. So,
Speaker 1: so our three position safety, all the way back or
Speaker 1: away from the muzzle is on safe, which you cannot
Speaker 1: operate the trigger and you cannot lift the bolt. In
Speaker 1: the middle position, you can open the bolt, but the
Speaker 1: trigger is defeated. And then a third position or all
Speaker 1: the way forward towards the muzzle, guns blazing ready to fire. Yeah,
Speaker 1: straight up in the air is the middle I like,
Speaker 1: I think it's good? Is it? What are the cons?
Speaker 1: I don't know other cons. The only potential con is
Speaker 1: if you're all the way back on safe and you
Speaker 1: only click forward once trigger doesn't go. But it's also
Speaker 1: the benefit to the benefit to that is to teach
Speaker 1: people trigger control, because you see new shooters they'll go
Speaker 1: from safe to the middle position and then they're getting
Speaker 1: ready to shoot, they pull it and then they just
Speaker 1: they wiggle the gun or they jerked so hard and
Speaker 1: you're like, don't do that. You you would know you
Speaker 1: wouldn't hit anything with that. So it's a good training
Speaker 1: tool as well. Yeah, I like it. But I've been
Speaker 1: talking a lot. I have a ten year old and
Speaker 1: he likes to know. He's getting real excited about shooting
Speaker 1: and very infatuated with all kinds of you know, any
Speaker 1: kind of firearm ballistics conversation. Anyways, he's got a break
Speaker 1: open four ten is a good training thing and the
Speaker 1: thing that, like, to Cal's point, but when you look
Speaker 1: at what you see, I like because I can just
Speaker 1: look and I know what's going on, right, I know,
Speaker 1: like open that thing up and it just it just
Speaker 1: takes it takes my stress away. Sure, now that it's
Speaker 1: a parallel, but I mean, you know, it's just like
Speaker 1: when you're with people, I think it's it's something to
Speaker 1: think about and later when they get super familiar and
Speaker 1: then then uh, it's not as big of an issue.
Speaker 1: But at first it's like there's a little bit of
Speaker 1: a redundancy and safety features that. Another thing to bring
Speaker 1: up is the threaded barrel. Oh yeah, another major The
Speaker 1: way I like to pitch this is we've done a
Speaker 1: lot of the customization for you. Yeah, like there's very
Speaker 1: strong uh that very strong things on on this, uh,
Speaker 1: whether be Van Guard, Meata or super addition super that. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, we've taken the liberty of of making, um,
Speaker 1: what would be customization options for you? Uh? And what
Speaker 1: is the standard package? But you can further customize because
Speaker 1: it's got a threaded barrel with a cap on it.
Speaker 1: That's how you'll get it when you buy it. But
Speaker 1: you can also put a muzzle brake on there if
Speaker 1: you unthread that cap or uh, if you had it
Speaker 1: set up, you could put a can on there, a
Speaker 1: suppressor on there. Um. Yeah, let me tell you what.
Speaker 1: I just had my double deuice two threaded for a suppressor.
Speaker 1: Guess what the gunsmith charging me to thread that two
Speaker 1: for a suppressor? No? Man, it was like I want
Speaker 1: to say it was three hundred bucks. Yeah, I believe it.
Speaker 1: You're like, that's an entire New twenty two. Well I
Speaker 1: just said, like, i'd like to have this done. I
Speaker 1: didn't get into I didn't like ahead of time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well that's what like. Back to that customization and having
Speaker 1: that on there, and we got that thread cap that's
Speaker 1: flushed too, So we tried to do it where you
Speaker 1: can't hardly see where that line is you know it
Speaker 1: looks clean and then we're actually getting we actually are
Speaker 1: making muzzle breaks for the meat Eater, for the weather
Speaker 1: by Vanguard Mediator Special Editions super rifle. Uh, we are
Speaker 1: making muscle breaks for it. Will be one for the
Speaker 1: twenty four in barrels, one for twenty six in the
Speaker 1: tungsten color, in a little package. They'll be at Sportsman's
Speaker 1: or or on Weathery dot com so you can get one.
Speaker 1: You can get that. I think what is the retail
Speaker 1: on that, look sex seventies sixty or seventy bucks for
Speaker 1: a break. A lot of times you're paying well in
Speaker 1: access a hundred and tried to keep that down too.
Speaker 1: So if you know we do have it in sick
Speaker 1: carts or just some of those, you probably won't need
Speaker 1: a break forward. Some of them you might want one
Speaker 1: for depending and the threat. That's the thing I don't
Speaker 1: understanding about the suppressors is um, oh yeah, it's like
Speaker 1: a universal thread patterns. Yeah, because the one of the
Speaker 1: ones I have, uh, you gotta get, you gotta get
Speaker 1: when you buy your suppress you gotta get a reducer. Yeah.
Speaker 1: One of you guys explained it simply. Yeah, this mediator
Speaker 1: rifle is threaded half twenty eight, which is very common.
Speaker 1: The other common rifle is a five eights twenty four,
Speaker 1: which on the number three contour barrels is more popular.
Speaker 1: Larger barrel, it's larger, but if you take a number
Speaker 1: three all the way down to a half twenty eight,
Speaker 1: you're removing so much barrel it's unnecessary. So that's probably
Speaker 1: where you had a well, this thing, my my thing,
Speaker 1: My suppressor came with a mountain of reducers, and then
Speaker 1: I was just confused by that whole thing. Yeah. Actually,
Speaker 1: we just recently standardized to a half eight m on
Speaker 1: this like kind of this is more of a hunting
Speaker 1: it's a number two contour, so it's it's not a
Speaker 1: big old barrel because we wanted the way of the
Speaker 1: rifle to be. You know, you can go down and
Speaker 1: because cal you were just shooting. You just shut a
Speaker 1: couple hundred rounds or something, didn't you out of one
Speaker 1: and competition or something or yeah? Yeah, and yeah, I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, yeah, you went to a shooting tournament, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the sniper challenge. Nope. Uh. You know, you know, learn
Speaker 1: a lot when you go out there. The shooting competitions
Speaker 1: I've done up. Like I'm just trying very consciously keep
Speaker 1: things in a hunting perspective because that's my goal is
Speaker 1: is to come away with good practical hunting practice. Um,
Speaker 1: and you know, you're when you're shooting around, uh, these
Speaker 1: people where this is really some of them it's their
Speaker 1: job to shoot, and some of them that is that
Speaker 1: is their sport, is shooting competitions. Um, you're seeing stuff
Speaker 1: that is not anything that you would see on a
Speaker 1: mountain anywhere. Yeah. I mean they're twenty pound rifles out
Speaker 1: there probably. Yeah, I mean there's there's a lot of
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, Um. And you know, and they're built specifically
Speaker 1: to shoot targets. It's nice about those things all. Uh,
Speaker 1: those super heavy rigged up guns. When you touch them off,
Speaker 1: the thing doesn't even move. Yes, And there's like watching
Speaker 1: like looking through the scope was like watching TV Man,
Speaker 1: but you shoot like nothing happens, just everything just stays
Speaker 1: like perfectly fine through that scope. One of the guys
Speaker 1: that we were shooting in a group with, he's like, man,
Speaker 1: you have got to get uh uh uh not a suppressor,
Speaker 1: the other thing muzzle break. And I was like, man,
Speaker 1: it's a six and a half creed more. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't need a muzzle break, he said, Nope, He's like,
Speaker 1: the muzzle brake is so you can stay on target.
Speaker 1: It's a big deal for them and watch your impacts
Speaker 1: through your scope. Yes, you don't got to shoot at
Speaker 1: some antelope off the distance, Like did I get it? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: which I was like, okay, yes that makes some sense.
Speaker 1: But um, you know, the whole reason I have never
Speaker 1: shot with one is because I I don't like dirt
Speaker 1: and stuff getting in there in the fields and stuff. Uh.
Speaker 1: We've shied away from filming because you can kind of
Speaker 1: ring the bell of whoever if someone's you know, lying
Speaker 1: out next to you. And so I've even had guys
Speaker 1: get um, semi hostile let shooting at the range. People
Speaker 1: don't want to be next to the guy with the
Speaker 1: muzzle break. And then I don't know if it's really yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess it's It matters like for for filming where
Speaker 1: you kind of have people who might be off to
Speaker 1: your side and stuff. It just seemed like it definitely
Speaker 1: hurts the person next to you more than what it
Speaker 1: also does though, is it helps if somebody does have
Speaker 1: a problem with flinching especially if you have a larger
Speaker 1: you know, caliber or whatever. By having it, if you're
Speaker 1: wearing hearing protection it sometimes you can get rid of
Speaker 1: a flinch more if you I think if you give
Speaker 1: a little too much requal a larger cartridge to be
Speaker 1: either a newer shooter or maybe a child or something
Speaker 1: like that, they can develop a flinch because you're like,
Speaker 1: just suck it up and shoot it, and they can
Speaker 1: develop some pretty bad flinches. So I think the muzzle
Speaker 1: breaks sometimes it's helpful to give somebody something that's a
Speaker 1: little tamer. But the hearing thing is definitely so one
Speaker 1: thing on the breaking process. So the weather be Van
Speaker 1: Guard Meat Eater super Special edition, um what it was
Speaker 1: brand new. We went out to start getting prepared for
Speaker 1: the sniper challenge and Seth, well Seth Seth shot for
Speaker 1: me so I could go to Mayne and check out
Speaker 1: that property on Sunday. Yeah. So he actually shot a
Speaker 1: hundred and some rounds. I shot a hundred and some
Speaker 1: round at the challenge. I don't know, probably about we
Speaker 1: were pretty even, um but he I think Seth said
Speaker 1: he rang a target at eleven. Yeah. But so during
Speaker 1: the break in process, I actually broke it. In with
Speaker 1: the trophy copper, federal trophy copper. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's uh, you know, a minute group. I was like,
Speaker 1: that's you know, good group. And then uh proceeded to
Speaker 1: shoot a bunch of steel and was very impressed. And
Speaker 1: this was like taking a lot of time to shoot
Speaker 1: steal um, making sure everything was right. But where were
Speaker 1: you doing all this out at the you'll see it tomorrow,
Speaker 1: I think, but out at a friend's range that he
Speaker 1: let us see and their steel everywhere, people going doing
Speaker 1: stuff that I didn't get invited. Yeah, all the time
Speaker 1: man people, Oh yeah, we're all drinking, so I know
Speaker 1: I wouldn't go. But very impressed with the rifle. And
Speaker 1: then um, you do finally got her target loads so
Speaker 1: we didn't have to shoot up all the trophy copper. Um.
Speaker 1: I felt like the target loads weren't flying quite as
Speaker 1: good out of the gun, and I cleaned it in
Speaker 1: between these so kind of had like an almost a
Speaker 1: new breaking process with the with the target load. Um.
Speaker 1: And then did you know, shot two hundred plus rounds
Speaker 1: out of that rifle just at the match. Geez, got
Speaker 1: it clean the you know, a little due diligence cleaning
Speaker 1: on it and then shot at today and went back
Speaker 1: to Trophy Copper. And that three shot group with the
Speaker 1: Trophy Copper was I think a lot of those twenty
Speaker 1: pound rifles out of that match you'd be very pleased with. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was tight. Yeah, it was about a half inch
Speaker 1: a little over his group. And the funny thing was
Speaker 1: though the first one he it'll turn it on top
Speaker 1: and kind of forgot he'd been shooting. So he goes
Speaker 1: down to the target today at a hundred yard to
Speaker 1: them all, dude, you hit dirt like feet above that target.
Speaker 1: I've been the spotting scope and he just goes through
Speaker 1: and he's just spinning that turret like a top and
Speaker 1: then it's sure enough, just drills the balls. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: it's a good it's a great rifle. Me. How much
Speaker 1: they weigh like short action short action six point three eight? Oh,
Speaker 1: just make that up right now, not super light, not
Speaker 1: super heavy. Great and the magnum, the magnum will be
Speaker 1: seven point three eight. What are the there's six cartridges
Speaker 1: six five creed More six hundred, Weatherby three, Weatherby seven,
Speaker 1: weather B and seven and a seven milli seven. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and this something we worked. Yeah, the old thirty old
Speaker 1: six that make the cut. No, no, no, but we
Speaker 1: we did talk to you guys. You know, I know
Speaker 1: that you know, you guys are a big part of that.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to rub it in and its Sportsman's
Speaker 1: warehouse a little bit. You know, is because you know
Speaker 1: they have you know, hundred five stores and know their
Speaker 1: customers and in their areas and you know know what
Speaker 1: they like too. So I think between the three, you know,
Speaker 1: we were able to pick up on those six cartridges.
Speaker 1: So it gives you a variety stuff short action long.
Speaker 1: The real quick back to the break is there like
Speaker 1: an average percentage of reduced recoil and you throw it
Speaker 1: when you put a brake on. It's no way, it's
Speaker 1: it's very difficult to measure because it's it's a perception
Speaker 1: and it's also count related. Wouldn't be that you put
Speaker 1: it against something that measures force and just do it
Speaker 1: or not? Let us talk to your engineerings get some pillars.
Speaker 1: People do, but there's variations on how people you know,
Speaker 1: even measure that. So well, I know that there's like
Speaker 1: a significant I mean there's a significant recoil redaction with those. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know that different things recoil different way is for sure,
Speaker 1: like I had a um, what's the queens of the
Speaker 1: planes rifles? Yet that recoil is tremendous, but spread out
Speaker 1: over such a long period of time. It's kind of
Speaker 1: like it's like a five minute long like then a
Speaker 1: seven millimeter around mags like smack, And it's like the
Speaker 1: fastest to the jaw man bullet, wait to seventy five
Speaker 1: shooting a heavier bullet, so it's more of a push
Speaker 1: against your shoulder. Yeah, it's under the giant like giving
Speaker 1: you a slow punch. It's very similar to three or weather.
Speaker 1: Be truthfully, three or weather people think, oh god, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be horrible. It's it's It doesn't really bother me.
Speaker 1: I don't like the real poppy jaw busting ones that
Speaker 1: give you a headache. Yes, and those will more than
Speaker 1: likely be lighter grain bullets shooting fast because they're snappy,
Speaker 1: Like what's what's in your opinion, what's the what's the
Speaker 1: worst free willing around? Oh no, actually and a small
Speaker 1: gun in a lightweight gun jumped out of your hands
Speaker 1: and do flips right gun. But I've also there's the
Speaker 1: three seventy eight weather be mag like our big old
Speaker 1: cartrires like African safari stuff, and that's the smack and
Speaker 1: the wallup and Andre the giant like all mixed into.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've shot I've shot a four sixty weather
Speaker 1: be mag with the five green bullet without a break
Speaker 1: once and it gives you just gotta do it. Actually,
Speaker 1: you guys should just you guys should just do it.
Speaker 1: You just it's fun. Next time you guys are down, Definitely,
Speaker 1: you gotta shoot it once. Just it is so much force.
Speaker 1: You know what I shot one time, I can't remember.
Speaker 1: It was one of those those like it was like sharps,
Speaker 1: like a replix sharps, so like they're not seventies when
Speaker 1: are they like a four sixteen Rigby or either way.
Speaker 1: I was in California. We're shooting this thing, okay, and
Speaker 1: it had one of the all those quickly down under
Speaker 1: sits should have been I'm not kidding. Yeah, he said that.
Speaker 1: He was like, oh, yeah, you can see the bullet.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you can't see the bullet. You can see
Speaker 1: the bullet definitely if you're shooting out. He had a
Speaker 1: target like a couple hundred yards out and it's like
Speaker 1: there's no way. We were talking about you look like
Speaker 1: you catch a glimpse. It seemed like it was like
Speaker 1: halfway there and you catch a glimpse of the slug
Speaker 1: going through the air. Trying to pride ourselves. You can't
Speaker 1: see our bullets, definitely can your billboard out there and
Speaker 1: shared and you can't see our bullets. Rio, Seve can't see.
Speaker 1: We're excited about the project though. With you guys, it's
Speaker 1: been it's been a fun collaboration. And I hope you
Speaker 1: know you're listeners watch or whatever you call the people
Speaker 1: that are out there and the meat eater world is
Speaker 1: nad Yeah, all the knuckleheads listening. I think it's uh.
Speaker 1: I think, to be honest, I think it's there's gonna
Speaker 1: be some experience shooters nunners. They're like, Wow, this is
Speaker 1: a rifle that I really want to own. But I
Speaker 1: think it's also so then you could step into as
Speaker 1: more of a new or novice hunter into So I
Speaker 1: think it really I don't know. I think hopefully, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of captures the vast part of the audience in
Speaker 1: that sense. Oh yeah, we get so many emails, people
Speaker 1: like lots of emails, and it's like a daily thing.
Speaker 1: Is people kind of trying to dig through the all
Speaker 1: the rigmarole in language right there, like I want to
Speaker 1: get right ball away shot, hand me downs, go by,
Speaker 1: what should I get? Blah blah blah. It doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: I get overwhelmed. And now I'd be like that, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: all ready for you. Yeah. And like Adam said, sports
Speaker 1: is Warehouse has it, but also weather we dot com.
Speaker 1: And just to review that process real quick, is that
Speaker 1: if you were to go to weather be dot com
Speaker 1: and select a rifle in the cartridge that you want,
Speaker 1: you would then select an FFL that we would ship
Speaker 1: that rifle to. A lot of people don't realize we
Speaker 1: don't ship a rifle directly to your door. Can We
Speaker 1: cannot do that, So you have to select an FFL
Speaker 1: in your I don't actually care where it is, but
Speaker 1: p prefarably in your city. You would select that off
Speaker 1: of our website. We would then ship that rifle to
Speaker 1: that FFL, in which then you would go in and
Speaker 1: complete the appropriate checks like thirty bucks right to do it, California,
Speaker 1: and the sportsman is gonna be stocking them heavy, So
Speaker 1: it's a great opportunity to get in there, you know.
Speaker 1: Shoulder and asked the guys behind the counter. We're gonna
Speaker 1: be working on training with them, and so I think
Speaker 1: you know, they're gonna have some associates. They're gonna be
Speaker 1: excited about that. Again. I think it's gonna, you know,
Speaker 1: pop off that shelf. You know too. Hit a point
Speaker 1: that Kevin was making just so people understand, because I
Speaker 1: don't like the lingo of the FFL. So it's like federal, No,
Speaker 1: you don't need a great job. I feel like some
Speaker 1: people don't know where Tom Abo does you think all
Speaker 1: the federal firearm licensee. So what happens is, um, there's
Speaker 1: there's a questionnaire and when you go to a firearm transfer,
Speaker 1: you go down and fill out a very simple questionnaire
Speaker 1: and it covers like, um, if you have felony, felony
Speaker 1: like any kind of restraining orders, dishonorable discharge, are you
Speaker 1: there's some recreational drugs, there's some kind of there's some
Speaker 1: kind of question around I don't know how it's phrase,
Speaker 1: but something citizenship. Have you ever renounced your US citizenship
Speaker 1: or something like that. And you can't just go down
Speaker 1: the whole thing, go no no, no, no, no, no no,
Speaker 1: because they'll get you in the end. Yeah, the last
Speaker 1: question is different. Remember no, no, no, no, no, of
Speaker 1: course not and the and then that's all. That's what
Speaker 1: it asked. Like when people say, like going to my
Speaker 1: FFL or doing to the FFL, that's what it is.
Speaker 1: You go down and give me driver's license, You fill
Speaker 1: out this thing, they check, make sure you're cool, and
Speaker 1: in most cases most places, you you walk out. Most
Speaker 1: places some some states do have a weight period, but
Speaker 1: most do not. So we'll take a little bit of
Speaker 1: time for them to run the check. So sometimes it
Speaker 1: will take a couple of minutes, I'll say, walk around
Speaker 1: the store, and but like literally a couple of minutes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a the old phone end days are long gone,
Speaker 1: and said Nick's National Instant Criminal Check System something like that.
Speaker 1: And it's pretty fast. If you've got a real generic
Speaker 1: last named Smith or Jones, it could take longer, but
Speaker 1: for most people's But I did hear during the height
Speaker 1: of the COVID buying that they were a couple of hours.
Speaker 1: They happen, especially the store is really busy and you've
Speaker 1: got a bunch of people with the gun counter, it
Speaker 1: might it might take some time. But while you're down
Speaker 1: there too at the store, I mean, usually you need accessories,
Speaker 1: whether that Biammo scopes, mounts, all that kind of stuff too.
Speaker 1: So it gets you, you know, get you in there
Speaker 1: to see what else you're gonna need to go along
Speaker 1: with it. So there's one thing I want to comment
Speaker 1: on the rifle. If I can't, and then well, I
Speaker 1: think and and it depends on you know, listeners where
Speaker 1: they're at, and they're kind of technical knowledge of firems
Speaker 1: and things. But like I said earlier, probably accuracy is
Speaker 1: depending upon a number of different things, and the barrel
Speaker 1: I believe being key to that. And one of the
Speaker 1: things that Vanguard has and I think for that value
Speaker 1: is it's there you hear different ways of barrels are made,
Speaker 1: and that's probably other things thrown out and then everybody's like,
Speaker 1: what's all. I mean button rifle and the cut barrel
Speaker 1: and the Vanguard rifles are hammered forged, and really what
Speaker 1: it is. It's talking about how the rifle ing is
Speaker 1: put in the barrel, because the first you just drill
Speaker 1: a hole, right, but you've got to actually get that
Speaker 1: rate of twist that's in there. The actual rifling and
Speaker 1: hammer forging and barrels has has been kind of for
Speaker 1: a long time known as one of the one of
Speaker 1: the premier ways to actually do a barrel. Uh, and
Speaker 1: that it's it's actually you know, literally pressed that it's
Speaker 1: it's you know, there's a huge trying to put it in.
Speaker 1: Uh it is and it just goes E is doing
Speaker 1: this and it's actually then taking and putting the rifling
Speaker 1: in there and doing so in a way that minimizes
Speaker 1: the stress to the barrel. Uh, so that it can
Speaker 1: maintain its concentricity said a word, Uh, you know, being
Speaker 1: concentric and all those things. So anyways, just the way
Speaker 1: that the barrel has done Sammer forged. There's different ways
Speaker 1: to do barrels, but we found that the Vanguard barrels
Speaker 1: um are an excellent barrel, lasts a long time, but
Speaker 1: is very very concentric um as well, and that's one
Speaker 1: of the things that provides that accuracy. So you know,
Speaker 1: you look more, you get into certain things, you find
Speaker 1: something out. And one of the things that Van Guard
Speaker 1: barrel has been known for for decades is that they
Speaker 1: have really good hammerforge barrels. So something else to kind
Speaker 1: of throw in there if anybody geeks out on that stuff,
Speaker 1: if I like it, well, yeah, y'all. He likes that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Yeah, well knows wall someday I want
Speaker 1: to add up all Yanni's nicknames. Man, do you have
Speaker 1: a little inside joke, it's like the nickname. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: got a lot of Well because Queen Man's was a
Speaker 1: good friend of mine. That's why I think is cool.
Speaker 1: We started with bird list for our yard. Um, we're
Speaker 1: at six. Not bad, nice, it's great. I feel you're
Speaker 1: you guys, your family blow my family away. Yeah, we've
Speaker 1: started one too, but we've fallen off, so I don't
Speaker 1: think we've made it past. I feel like you'll you'll
Speaker 1: blow past me very quickly. I haven't seen any humming
Speaker 1: berris yet. Them we got one, I can't. I think
Speaker 1: I can't tell if it's broad tailed or Calliope, though
Speaker 1: it's a little problem. ICES call them all hummingbirds. Then
Speaker 1: I found out that that doesn't work. No lots kind
Speaker 1: of hunting hummingbirds running around. Uh, Phil lassing, Um, you're
Speaker 1: you're you're gonna close with So we got the song
Speaker 1: about Yanni already played. I was disappointed here there's no accompaniment?
Speaker 1: Can I in first? Oh? Yeah, of course, you know
Speaker 1: it's about your bigger bank. You need one more thing
Speaker 1: because after you get your super badass, whether it be
Speaker 1: meatia rifle, you're gonna need something to cut up the
Speaker 1: meat with your get again, to get the meat craft knife,
Speaker 1: to cover your new stuff. Will your barrel down that
Speaker 1: level of steel? Don't do that, don't take you. Don't
Speaker 1: touch your knife to your barrel. Yeah. No, we've been
Speaker 1: doing something. We've been doing some fun stuff. Man, that's
Speaker 1: little stuff we haven't done. We've never really engaged in it.
Speaker 1: I always always curious about just kind of like waiting
Speaker 1: for the right, you know, the right sort of Well,
Speaker 1: you're passionate about quality products. I mean, that's what like
Speaker 1: you even when we go around hunting, you're like, you
Speaker 1: know what you guys should make and like that's impossible
Speaker 1: but half a brain. Yeah, no kidding, Yeah, and if
Speaker 1: you know how to make stuff, Steve, but you know,
Speaker 1: but it's cool because you guys are passionate about stuff.
Speaker 1: I think it just came out in this new knife.
Speaker 1: You guys did a bench made and I hope that
Speaker 1: you know, people feel came out in the rifle too,
Speaker 1: that that you guys, Um, Yeah, I think your creativity
Speaker 1: and really kind of knowing you just do a lot
Speaker 1: of hunting from lots of folks. It's been fun to
Speaker 1: get involved in it. Uh. Then we all, you know,
Speaker 1: feel free and Bill's got a hot hot concluder. I'll
Speaker 1: just stay with the rifle one more time. I think
Speaker 1: it's we are we all here in this room put
Speaker 1: together a very quality product. UM. As far as what
Speaker 1: is out there on the market, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: kind of upgrades, like if you if you went to
Speaker 1: a lower price point rifle, a cheaper rifle, if you will. UM.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of things that we feel eventually enough
Speaker 1: time on the ground, you'd be like, oh, you know
Speaker 1: what would be nice is this? Or you know, boy,
Speaker 1: I kind of like that on that And that's what
Speaker 1: kind of gets you working up a little bit into
Speaker 1: some different kind of quote custom things. And that's kind
Speaker 1: of what this package is UM. And you know, it's
Speaker 1: still it's under a thousand bucks um weatherby dot Com UM,
Speaker 1: which is still a chunk of change. But the good
Speaker 1: thing is is you're not going to have that feeling
Speaker 1: of like, oh man, I wish this one had this
Speaker 1: or this one that had this. Uh, And it's something
Speaker 1: that just never goes away like you are eventually gonna
Speaker 1: be like, ah, I've had such a long life and
Speaker 1: hunted so long and I need to give this thing away. Uh,
Speaker 1: and you'll you'll be able to then hand down a
Speaker 1: very high quality shooting iron. Yeah. It's like you know,
Speaker 1: you can go when you touch it and worked the
Speaker 1: work the action on it, like work the bolt down stuff.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like a you know, it's a quality gun.
Speaker 1: It's a quality gun. You're like that, She's about the
Speaker 1: good one. I think what's hard in audio podcast is
Speaker 1: we've tried to describe, like the fluted barrel, it looks
Speaker 1: really good. We really didn't touch on how good the
Speaker 1: stock looks. The stock itself hand painted. It's a black
Speaker 1: base with kind of like a gray and a tan.
Speaker 1: It looks incredible. So you gotta go check it out,
Speaker 1: whether it be or Sports and Sports dot Com. Um
Speaker 1: last thing, our good friend Doug Durn, the beautiful, lovely
Speaker 1: Doug Durn. We're gonna he wrote a song, what we're
Speaker 1: doing Our our whole live tour got postponed. Everybody had
Speaker 1: tickets to go to the shows, knows this. Um the
Speaker 1: Dog was gonna do some of the live shows with us,
Speaker 1: and he wrote the song he wrote he wrote a
Speaker 1: song about the podcast. Uh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: people were just stuck it in there and people noticed.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's and people are like I saw on Instagram,
Speaker 1: I think it was people were debating whether or not
Speaker 1: it was Doug, but yeah, it's Doug. Doug says that
Speaker 1: in his whole life, he's only ever finished one song.
Speaker 1: This is it nice? Thanks Doug Yohan, He's in it. Oh.
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Speaker 1: not be a fan killing Yana Germany? Indeed we should
Speaker 1: all be fans. O. Kail's got this conservation podcast Nis
Speaker 1: the world's most half of the man. Yeah, there's a
Speaker 1: lot to talk about conservation and things we do and
Speaker 1: don't want to see. Lots to talk about conservation, things
Speaker 1: you do when you don't want to see, all kinds
Speaker 1: of hunting and fishing techniques and the bads and like
Speaker 1: c W torn fingers and other weird injuries, hunting hat
Speaker 1: and hunting fishing down on the farm, porn fingers and
Speaker 1: ripped nipples and other eye injuries part of hunting fishing,
Speaker 1: her life on the farm. But if you're lucky like
Speaker 1: I was, you know what, they just sold that thing
Speaker 1: right back on. Uh, we're in the hunt in public access.
Speaker 1: Two more subjects you should all care about, getting people
Speaker 1: out hunting public land and access. Am in on the
Speaker 1: two things that we should all care about. Fishing, cats,
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Speaker 1: Welcome to the meeting podcast with people. It's so good
Speaker 1: have you here. Just remember some of these things might
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