WEBVTT - Ep. 225: An Expensive Episode 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:13.320 This is me eater podcast coming at you shirtless, severely 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:18.319 bug bitten in my case, underwear listening Hunt podcast, you 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:22.560 can't predict anything presented by on X. Hunt creators are 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:26.160 the most comprehensive digital mapping system for hunters. Download the 0:00:26.239 --> 0:00:29.440 Hunt app from the iTunes or Google play store. Nor 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:38.080 where you stand with on X okay, cal go on okay? 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:41.360 First off, people, what you're you're saying really boring stuff 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:45.120 about about beer? Yeah, I mean it's it's it's this 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:48.200 is a road well traveled here. We're not not cutting 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:52.800 a new trail. We're talking about how that you know, 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:55.880 the perception is an I P A I must take 0:00:55.880 --> 0:01:00.920 a lot of time because of the complex flavors and 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:08.240 how powerful the beer seems. But in reality, like a 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:12.440 pilsner is so highly refined, it takes a lot more 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:17.000 time to produce than than an I P A uh. 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:22.560 And you know, like your German beer circles there's you 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:25.560 get get a lot more respect for producing some highly 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:29.760 refined pilsner. So it takes more skill to make miller 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:33.600 light than in a triple I p A whoa whoa 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:40.119 Your cores lights just a piggyback on on top of that. 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:46.000 Pilsner's are are laggers, so they're cold. They're cold fermented, 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:47.760 so it takes more time for the yeast. But that's 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:50.320 part of why it takes so long. It's the east. 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:54.640 I would rather hear people don't even need fire. I 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:57.560 would rather hear people say UM. I'd rather go around 0:01:57.600 --> 0:02:02.120 the room and have everybody say, like when I cut 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:05.640 my tone nails, I like to do, and have them 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:07.800 go through the order that they do their tonnails, and 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:10.400 then the next person says, well, I like it to 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:12.919 do the same way where I started on the left 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:16.160 and go It's like, I just what brought this up? 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:21.600 Is um? Kind of the drink I'm having. My wife 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:28.040 drinks a shipload of Chilada's, which is it's it's beer 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:36.320 and comado juice. Yeah, anything, And we were um. Her 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:38.040 her birthday happened that long ago, but I had to 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:40.240 go away on her birthday early in the morning, and 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:43.440 so we have been turkey hunting, and I arranged it 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:46.080 when we got back from camping. Turkey hunting on the 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:49.240 doorstep would be like a care package of things that 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:51.440 I know she likes. And one of the things I 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:55.120 know she likes is Budweise or Chelata or so I thought. 0:02:55.320 --> 0:03:01.519 So you home and they're like, there's like flowers, fancy chocolates, 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:04.160 in a six pack of Budge, a lot of Tall Boys. 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:07.800 So the next day, on her actual birthday, I totally 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:11.480 forgot about her birthday and called her wants to complain 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:13.320 to her about something that I thought she did and 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:17.119 didn't do. Um, And she's nice. And I called back 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:19.320 a minute later and she's like, oh, he must have 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:23.400 remembered that it's my birthday, but instead I was calling 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:25.359 her to tell her a different thing I need wanted 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:28.160 her to do, at which point she got real uh 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:31.440 mad that I had again forgotten all about her birthday. 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:33.760 And I pointed out that I hadn't. I had just 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:38.120 celebrated it the day before and reminded her about the 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:41.720 Budge lattas, and she pointed out that she drinks bud 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:46.720 Light cheladas, so it didn't even really count. Fail. So 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:49.640 now I went home and found it in the fridge. 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:52.320 It's the tall Boy bud and um, now I'm having 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:59.760 it strength m'd rather enjoy it. Um of you guys 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:03.000 heard this. This is interesting to talk about for a second. Here, 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:06.240 they really I don't know anybody did this. They redid 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:10.040 Bugs Bunny and Elmer Fudd. Are you wearing this? It's 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:11.960 kind of all over the news. But they made a 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:15.360 conscious decision that Elmer Fudd has no gun, so he 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:18.000 still has dynamite. He still has like like Hi, he 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:21.920 still has high intensity explosives. They're also going to allow 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:25.960 him to hunt bugs Bunny with a with a side yea, 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:31.920 as if that's like Elmer Fudd now to a side, 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:34.719 he's he's been disarmed and like the creators of his 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:37.120 cartoon Shore basically no, we're not doing guns. He still 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:41.960 orders stuff like they're still doing the acne products. But man, 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:44.320 a couple of things is all the best jokes were 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:47.760 about the guns, like your barrel getting tied and n 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:52.120 that's that. That joke never gets old. And then when 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:55.320 he's down in the Appalachia they have like the blunderbusses 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:57.919 and people put their fingers and then the barrel and 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:01.160 all that. It's all it takes what's interested the thing. 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:02.640 The first thing I thought about it. I don't know 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:05.440 if anyways made this connection is there's a term like 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:07.839 if you're a dude who just thinks about guns through 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:11.080 the lens of hunting. You're like you you you run 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:14.640 the risk of being called a fund, meaning you're not 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:17.839 like supportive enough of gun rights because you just like 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:21.200 hunting guns, and it's bad to be a fund. And 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:25.839 here it's like it's almost like, uh, what happened to 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:28.679 Elmer Fudd is what they say, what happened to all funds? 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:33.360 You'll get like disarmed. So now here the poster boy 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:38.960 for being a fund has been disarmed. On the Bucks 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:42.880 Bunny Show, it feels to me like a you know, 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:51.200 like it's all coming true. Feeling circumspect man. A guy 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:53.919 wrote in he got a guy rolled into got fish cuffed, 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:57.840 which is interesting. He was, he's a long haul trucker 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:01.720 and he carries a tackle box rounding his stuff because 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:04.160 he likes to stop fishing us in the Dakotas. And 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:06.520 he goes in his tackle box to get out of 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:11.040 a rappola and he's like, it's like real, he says. 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:14.520 He describes it as a beautiful COVID nineteen evening, meaning 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:19.800 apparently that no one's anywhere around, trips and falls and 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:24.400 snags both his thumbs on the rappola, but his phones 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:28.040 in his back pocket and there's his hands are so 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:30.799 snagged he can't even get him out of his back pocket, 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:33.080 and he's like bleeding all over the place and tried 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:36.839 to and he's he's trying to wave people down. He 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:42.920 needs to raise both of his bloody hands. So he's 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:45.680 to raise both his bloody hands in the air to 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:48.480 try to get help, which he says wasn't working, and 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:51.839 eventually finds his way down to a bar, and everybody 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:54.200 was so excited about their bar being back opened again 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:57.640 that he was able to get himself taken care of. 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:03.080 In North Dakota. UM, Cal's got big news. Go ahead, Cal, 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:06.320 where do you want me to start? Like your this 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:10.720 is your this is your um you know, it's like 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:17.640 your your thing, the passage of the Oh okay, what 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:20.880 news are you going to share with me on some 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:27.080 hot dates? Oh yeah, I'm sorry. That Great American Outdoors Act. 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:29.480 What do you where? Which one you want to start with? Uh? 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:31.800 We can start with Great American Outdoors Act. That's a 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:34.880 that's a great one. So you know, we've been harping 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:39.160 on this for a long time because it's UM contains 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:44.560 it's a big package that has a ton of bipartisan 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:50.640 support and it. But even even though that existed, we 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:55.840 still needed uh it to be introduced for consideration. Basically, 0:07:56.240 --> 0:08:01.400 word came down that uh, Mitch McConnell was gonna, you know, 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:04.240 actually introduced the Great American Outdoors Act. We all got 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:09.120 super excited, um, and there was this little bit of 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:14.240 uncertainty that if it hit the floor because there was 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:21.440 so much support um, that the little bit of dissenting 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:30.000 voice out there, they're only opportunity to stop this public lands. Uh, 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:32.240 this is very beneficial to people who like to be 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:36.120 outside public lands, beneficial package. The only way to stop 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:41.840 it would be to filibuster. So the package gets introduced 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:46.040 and somebody has said, yeah, you want to debate this, 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:52.240 and during that debate situation is when somebody could stand 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:55.000 up and be like, yeah, hey, I got something I 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:59.920 want to talk about, and just go until you can 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:04.560 you can never get a vote red um. But what 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:13.240 happened instead was they immediately moved um to go go 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:18.040 directly to a vote. Uh. Instead, it's called clot tour 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:23.280 cloth tour um. That sounds like a kind of yeah yeah, 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:31.800 drinking a cloth tour um. Uh. And so you you everybody, 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:36.520 and there's a big, very supportive vote seventeen. I think 0:09:36.559 --> 0:09:39.320 that said yes, let's move this thing on. So now 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:42.040 it's done or it's not done. Sometimes have a hard 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:44.160 time with news stories because I think that they're done, 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:47.200 but they're not done. Yeah, well that's I did this 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:49.920 post on Instagram that was like, hey, go check this 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:54.480 out because I want you to be involved, and everybody's like, yeah, 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:58.760 we won. Well until the second I thought we had 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:01.880 one yes, So all right, Uh, well the House has 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:09.160 passed it, right, No, no, no, they voted the results. 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:13.320 They just voted to vote yes to to skip the 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:19.760 debate portion. It's gonna come back out, um early next 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:23.200 week for the actual vote. So it's still very much 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:27.880 a you know, stay on your elected officials. Um, this 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:30.920 is by the time you're hearing this, it's all history. 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:36.240 Do you think the uh, the overwhelming majority to vote 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:40.640 to vote is a good sign? Yes, I would take 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:42.480 it as a good sign because it eliminates one of 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:46.600 the threats, um, which would be just the thing being filibuster, 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:49.840 and for the sake of moving on with everything else 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:51.640 that's going on in the country, we just gotta blow 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:56.440 pass this good thing, which happens. Um. So yeah, it's 0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:59.240 it's a good thing. It's it's very much progress right now. 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:04.880 There's a bunch of uh Republicans and Democrats that have 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:09.600 basically said, yes, we want to see movement on this thing, um, 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:14.200 and that right there was an opportunity to stall it 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:18.400 and open it up. So there's only seventeen dissenting voices, 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:25.440 and um, of those seventeen, you know, there's folks that 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:33.360 are you know, adamantly against any sort of support for 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:39.480 public lands, uh, you know, kind of anti any Yeah, 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:45.160 so really might be like Utah's no, no, and he's 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:49.160 one of the folks that has been Yeah, he'll let 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:52.000 you know that he doesn't like it. But did did 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:56.440 people not like it from both spectrums? It was all 0:11:56.480 --> 0:12:00.520 the dislike coming from one direction. Oh, most of the 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:09.040 dislike is coming from one direction. Um. And because there's 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:13.320 there's no like list of the seventeen that I've been 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:16.920 able to find, it should be available right well, because 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:20.640 it's not. Yeah, but yeah, if you know you have 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:28.480 founded or whatever the hell? Yeah, so um, but um 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:33.640 Ted Cruz Red, who's you didn't like it? He don't 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:35.760 look like he don't strike me as real outdoors And 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:37.760 to be honest with you, he doesn't see the sun 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:40.840 a lot. We can tell that. Um. You know, his 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:45.240 famous quote is Texas has two percent public lands and 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:49.040 that's two too much. M hmm. So he's he's not 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:52.559 going to be voting on behalf of public lands. When 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:55.120 the kids go out on their little scooters or whatever, 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:58.760 where do they wind up? Umm? Well, I mean that's 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:02.000 the hard part about doing this conservation work and working 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:05.880 with people that don't want to. They still they can 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:10.880 fight against all this public work stuff. I mean as 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:16.080 like vehemently and ardently and just rally hard against it. 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:17.559 But at the end of the day, they still got 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:20.319 to go out and use it. They still got to 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:23.920 go take it. There's probably people that are so um 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:28.240 peer so pure that they would be like, I don't 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:31.280 like it and I won't even go on it. Yes, 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:37.040 for sure that exists. Oh yeah yeah. Um so so 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:40.160 what happens now? Now it goes to the house. Yeah 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:45.840 and it Uh they should wrap this thing up on 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:49.600 Tuesday or Wednesday is the word on this on the hill, 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:54.600 and then there will never be another problem. This is it, 0:13:55.880 --> 0:13:57.440 because then they don't have to go to the Senate. 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:03.680 This is you, guys, This is the preliminary vote. No, 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:07.040 this is not the preliminary vote. This was we're bringing 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:12.040 this thing out onto the floor for debate. We voted 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:13.840 to say we are not going to have a debate. 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:17.000 We want to go to a vote. They're like, great, 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:20.000 we're gonna bring this bag out next week and we're 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:23.440 gonna vote, so everybody can study up on this. This 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:25.720 is the house. Do you think that then it's going 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:30.040 to go to the Senate? Yes, I'm right. Oh yeah, 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:36.880 he did say this American outdoors cloture vote. I didn't 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:40.400 notice that tour, I think is what. Yeah, we get 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:45.760 it all from the French that they were voting to 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:49.480 debate it. Yes, but when they vote for real, it 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:53.480 might be unanimous. It could very well be unanimous. It 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:58.720 could very well, um be some a little bit of 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:05.040 political games of Um, I'm gonna be a nice person 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:08.640 and push it this way so everybody knows, but then 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:11.840 I might dinghy in the back when we go to 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:14.600 the actual vote. Um, you know, there's there's a lot 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:16.520 of stuff that that's still up in the air, so 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:21.760 um yeah, I mean it's it's another deal. Like we 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:26.280 had an incredible amount of out pouring from uh you know, 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:28.200 people that listen to the to the show and listen 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:32.240 to the weekend review um and follow everybody's social channels. 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:35.480 I was talking about the Great American Outdoors Act. Incredible 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:37.880 amount of people wrote in and said, you know, I 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:42.920 have never ever done this before, but I actually got 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:46.360 ahold of my senator. You want something interesting, Yanni called 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:53.440 his tell me. I called the representative Gene Forte. Yep. 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:56.440 Left in a message at his Washington, d C. Office 0:15:56.840 --> 0:15:58.920 because the weekend it was Saturday, so it's got a 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:02.520 voicemail or not a voicemail. I left a voicemail on 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:06.720 a machine. He's like, yeah, what's up. I lived just 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:09.560 down the street from you, Bozeman, Montana. All I gave 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:12.320 him was my name in the city that I lived in. 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:16.400 And then on Monday, I received an email from his 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:19.880 office saying thanks for reaching out. That's customer service. I 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:22.440 don't know, I don't know what what you want to 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:25.040 call it. That's next level customer service today. Actually we're 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:28.520 able to find you on his email and email him yes, 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:34.360 are you not getting already? Previously had John record, Yeah, yeah, 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:38.640 that's a solid CRM. But even then even then I 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:41.200 was impressed. Man, Yeah, I like when little things make 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:44.200 you feel proud of, like our system. When I took 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:46.760 someone a small claims court, I walked away field. I 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:52.520 was patriotic for months after that. What happened when I 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:56.080 had a dispute with the landlord and uh, the house 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:57.640 I was rent and burnt down, and I thought, since 0:16:57.680 --> 0:16:59.680 it burnt down, I feel like it was my fault. 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:03.040 Someone else they knew what caused it. The house burned down. 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:04.359 I was like, I feel like I should get like 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:06.320 my brant back because I didn't burn it down. But 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:07.880 now I can't go into it because it's burnt down. 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:12.080 And they're basically like no, And that was really getting 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:14.560 on my nerves and eventually got him a small claims 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:19.000 court and the judge spent the whole time yelling at him. 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:21.040 And you just sat there. I just sat there, and 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:24.840 the judge is like, you've got no problem. The checks 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:27.080 come rolling in and you just cash him, and then 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:31.040 there's a problem, and then dude, dude do and just 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:36.200 I don't started to feel bad for the person. Judge 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:41.399 so irritated, but he proraded the month or whatever. Judge like, 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:45.760 give us money. Yeah, The judge like all they do 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:51.720 is yell at the person of America. They're kind of 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:55.800 the judge like moment, what what you have? Nothing? That's like, 0:17:55.840 --> 0:18:00.159 what are you talking about? Yeah? That's great. Yeah, so 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:05.200 I guess let's let's recap here Senate voting. It's not 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:11.520 clothe Tour. No too Cloe Tour all right now, if 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:14.240 there's gonna be a vote next week, that is a 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:21.920 vote vote like yeas nays to move this bill on that. 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:24.800 You know. The final step is the executive branch, right, 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:27.560 this bill has gotta hit Trump's desk and he's got 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:30.040 to sign it. Yeah, he'll sign it. Yeah, I mean 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:34.840 he he's voiced public support for this already and he'd 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:40.720 be over ridden anyway. It's it's very um you know, 0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:43.120 this is something everybody wants right now. So it's coming 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:45.240 out of his and it's got big support from the 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:50.000 Interior Department anyway. So good, Okay, Now tell us about 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:51.800 the next thing. Cal or do we want to take 0:18:51.800 --> 0:18:55.959 a break and talk about the song about Yanni? Too 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:58.040 much news? Is it too much news? In a row 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:02.280 of cal goes into more news. I like the idea 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:05.359 of breaking it depends. Is it an uplifting story like 0:19:05.400 --> 0:19:07.480 the one that He ended with, last time we were 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:12.359 all together, it's up. Yeah, I'd say it's uplifting. You 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:14.360 want to do the land access, That's what I want 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:16.040 to talk about. Now, let's break it up and talk 0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:19.399 about because we gotta talk about another song later. So 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:22.240 I feel like rather than talking about two songs later, 0:19:22.720 --> 0:19:24.199 which I thought would be a good idea a minute ago, 0:19:24.200 --> 0:19:26.080 and I want to talk about one song now where 0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:29.119 Yanni I wrote it. I started trying to work on 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:33.520 a song about Yanni set to um the ballot of 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:39.000 Davy Crockett and someone found where someone did it better 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:43.879 on what's that on? Fill? Can you play it for 0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:49.359 us real quick? They didn't strum along or anything. The 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:53.240 lab Vian eagle has a keen game. He wears a 0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:56.639 power ring. It makes him extra slide his trek and 0:19:56.680 --> 0:20:00.680 polls known from making big bears cry. If you hear blouch, 0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:06.880 kiss your ass good bye, Yanni, Yanni Chumani, he's one 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:09.760 hell of a god. It's really nice, man, I mean, 0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:13.760 just really about it just came right together, Yanni him. 0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:16.000 The way the song came about as we were in 0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:18.119 oblivion with the Chimani tribe and I was going to 0:20:18.240 --> 0:20:22.720 write a song about if Yanni decided never to go home. Yeah, 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:25.879 but I think that was spurred on by because you 0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:28.840 were having a lot of thoughts and visions, like you 0:20:28.920 --> 0:20:30.960 like to play a sort of like what if game 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:39.640 with yourself movies, and it involved like, you know, if 0:20:39.680 --> 0:20:42.679 something were happened to my wife and my family and 0:20:42.720 --> 0:20:47.679 I had to restart again be down here because a 0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:51.320 lot of what we saw they don't No, there's nothing 0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:54.120 wrong with it, but they don't keep up their homesteads 0:20:54.119 --> 0:20:56.119 of their village is the same way that we do 0:20:56.240 --> 0:20:58.280 here in the States a lot. And I really wanted 0:20:58.320 --> 0:21:00.440 to clean everything up. You really want to like spruce 0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:02.399 it up. So you had you had these visions and 0:21:02.560 --> 0:21:05.680 organized grand visions of you know, giant village is all 0:21:05.840 --> 0:21:11.320 nice and tidy, lawnmow, fishing equipment organized, and um, I 0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:13.800 don't know, I guess from there when you realized that 0:21:13.880 --> 0:21:16.840 wasn't gonna really happen, then you you spawned that into 0:21:16.920 --> 0:21:19.639 this song. Yeah, it was all about Yanni. But and 0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:21.920 that's what we came up with Yanni. The best part 0:21:21.920 --> 0:21:25.600 of that trip, I don't want to name who it was. 0:21:25.840 --> 0:21:27.800 One of the guys we worked with had just had 0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:33.280 to had just had to call it off with a girlfriend. 0:21:33.280 --> 0:21:36.320 Do you think we're okay to talk about this? Oh? Yeah, 0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:41.200 he had had to. We're gonna do then we got 0:21:41.240 --> 0:21:43.080 we got some introls we gotta do. He had had 0:21:43.119 --> 0:21:49.480 to call it off with a girlfriend because it's like weird, 0:21:50.640 --> 0:21:52.160 it's a weird reason I had to call it off 0:21:52.200 --> 0:21:56.040 of someone. He's one of our guys was dating a 0:21:56.080 --> 0:22:00.880 girl who had a cat, a house cat, and she 0:22:00.920 --> 0:22:05.480 would talk to him as though speaking through the cat 0:22:06.840 --> 0:22:09.679 in a baby voice, in a cat baby voice, a 0:22:09.680 --> 0:22:12.640 cat baby voice. This is someone whose name is familiar 0:22:12.640 --> 0:22:15.120 to everyone, right, Well, I'm gonna give him a different 0:22:15.160 --> 0:22:18.760 name right now. Let's say his name is Dave. So 0:22:18.920 --> 0:22:21.720 if Dave was laying there and the cat was there, 0:22:22.160 --> 0:22:26.760 she would be across the room and she'd be like, Dave, 0:22:27.560 --> 0:22:31.280 I'm here to be bad, okay. And he couldn't handle it, 0:22:32.040 --> 0:22:36.879 um and he had to call it off. So what 0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:39.520 happened though? While we're down there that Chimani were explaining 0:22:39.520 --> 0:22:43.560 to us that there's a woman that will go into 0:22:43.600 --> 0:22:47.679 the river. It's a it's a demon like like like 0:22:47.720 --> 0:22:50.800 an extra what's the word I'm looking for? Like spirit? 0:22:51.160 --> 0:22:55.560 A spirit, a spirit that goes into the river, the 0:22:55.640 --> 0:22:59.520 evil spirit. A beautiful woman, a beautiful nude woman. We'll 0:22:59.640 --> 0:23:03.440 going to the river and pretend to drown, and she'll 0:23:03.640 --> 0:23:07.800 seduce men to come out to save her, and then 0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:14.639 she'll grab them and pull them. Sirens like a mermaid 0:23:14.760 --> 0:23:18.520 siren tank. Yeah. So somehow Phil's story about the cat 0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:25.200 and this woman got uh conflated to it became that 0:23:25.240 --> 0:23:34.080 there is a woman in the river who goes You 0:23:34.200 --> 0:23:38.800 gotta redo it now with Daves. I thought it was Dave. 0:23:41.119 --> 0:23:44.920 We reimagined it. We reimagined it where these two things 0:23:44.920 --> 0:23:48.399 got conflated to where there was a siren who would 0:23:48.520 --> 0:23:55.240 go into the river and be Dave, come safe. My 0:23:55.320 --> 0:23:59.720 fool is always and I believe the one night that 0:23:59.760 --> 0:24:03.680 we we we fished that hole until dark and then 0:24:04.119 --> 0:24:06.080 some of that your minds hung back and maybe even 0:24:06.080 --> 0:24:08.600 fished into the darkness. And when they came back, some 0:24:08.680 --> 0:24:13.720 of them were claiming that they had heard Yeah, yeah, boy, 0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:19.160 it's just the one that they were. Um, let's do introductions. 0:24:19.160 --> 0:24:20.840 I failed to do that. Then we're coming back to you, 0:24:20.920 --> 0:24:27.120 cal Kevin, Yeah, um. Kevin Wilkerson, marketing director at Weatherby, 0:24:28.119 --> 0:24:30.760 do you mind recapping for people super quick about your thumb, 0:24:35.240 --> 0:24:39.840 quick story all the time. This is the main thing 0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:41.640 we talked. We talked about it today at the rain 0:24:41.680 --> 0:24:43.199 and I was like, I can't believe he brought it 0:24:43.200 --> 0:24:46.520 back up. It's the main thing we talked about, told 0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:49.080 at least a dozen people anytime. The first time we 0:24:49.119 --> 0:24:50.879 heard it was in my place for dinner was and 0:24:51.320 --> 0:24:54.200 sex time I heard it was better the second time. 0:24:54.720 --> 0:24:57.000 The first time I heard it the first time we 0:24:57.119 --> 0:25:01.240 were remember when we were witnessed to a mild catastrophe 0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:04.919 at sheep shape show, almost witness to a mile catastrophe 0:25:04.920 --> 0:25:08.880 a sheep show. It was a catastrophe that I almost 0:25:08.880 --> 0:25:12.720 witnessed that inspired you to tell the story about your thumb. 0:25:12.720 --> 0:25:14.919 I guess that's true. Yeah, And then I guess when 0:25:14.960 --> 0:25:16.359 you we were in a little putting now I asked 0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:18.080 you about it again. Oh, you asked me about it again. 0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:21.120 So yeah, the first time I heard it, it's it's 0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:24.920 actually caused productivity issues for us. We talked about I'm glad. 0:25:25.080 --> 0:25:27.760 I'm blad people think it's a good story. It's I 0:25:27.760 --> 0:25:29.760 don't know if I believe it it's And that's why 0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:32.360 I'm not going to recap it because it's a very 0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:35.480 unbelievable story, and I think a recap would do it 0:25:35.520 --> 0:25:39.440 no justice. And we're gonna share this story with our listeners. 0:25:39.760 --> 0:25:43.240 We gotta get the whole kit and caboodle. I'll do 0:25:43.320 --> 0:25:45.760 a quick do you mind, You can tell it another time. 0:25:45.800 --> 0:25:46.920 You don't need to tell it right now, but I'll 0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:51.679 tell the short version unless it doesn't makes you uncomfortable. No, oh, 0:25:51.760 --> 0:25:57.119 heck no, I don't care. Cut off his thumb right 0:25:57.119 --> 0:26:03.520 at the knuckle. At the knuckle and gecko like he 0:26:04.400 --> 0:26:08.520 regenerated his thumb to a point. Yes, and it doesn't 0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:11.280 feel quite right, but it's definitely there. But if you 0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:14.080 look at his two thumbs, I don't around the table. 0:26:14.119 --> 0:26:16.800 I don't think that anyone here you heard your story, bro, 0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:21.160 Actually one of the few people who haven't. The right 0:26:21.240 --> 0:26:28.439 thumb is regrown. The left thumb sh things your regular thumb. 0:26:29.000 --> 0:26:32.720 This is the look. They're definitely different. They are thumb 0:26:32.800 --> 0:26:35.960 nails substantial. The nail is like double times is thick. 0:26:36.080 --> 0:26:38.120 It's definitely a different. I feel like I've been set 0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:41.960 up and you gotta look close. It doesn't have a 0:26:43.320 --> 0:26:46.879 doesn't have the same. What I did too, is I 0:26:46.920 --> 0:26:51.359 gave it a couple of patient he is it bigger 0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:55.520 than the others. Yeah, it's way bigger. Yeah. I actually 0:26:55.560 --> 0:26:58.520 palm a basketball with my right hand and I can't 0:26:58.520 --> 0:27:00.720 palm a basketball in my left and and it's all 0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:02.520 because of the thumb being a little bit longer. Like 0:27:02.560 --> 0:27:07.639 the Bionic film, I got to hear the detailed version. 0:27:07.840 --> 0:27:10.520 It's it's a grinder. I mean, it was a very 0:27:10.640 --> 0:27:12.840 it was a gruesome accident. I think we'll have you on, 0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:14.359 and i'd like you when you when you come on, 0:27:14.400 --> 0:27:16.120 I want to tell the full thumb story and then 0:27:16.119 --> 0:27:18.280 tell the the full story about the sign you found 0:27:18.320 --> 0:27:20.639 in the last year. Okay, but I also want to 0:27:20.640 --> 0:27:23.439 know what about the drumstick in the eyeballs. I like 0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:25.840 that story, and I like the stuff about catching the 0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:28.640 wild drum stick in the eyeballs. Rugged, Wow, you got 0:27:28.680 --> 0:27:32.280 some good ones. Sign the sign he found in Alaska, 0:27:33.080 --> 0:27:36.800 amazing story. Actually told that story, like last week, somebody 0:27:36.840 --> 0:27:38.160 asked me about it because they were at the house. 0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:39.720 They said, hey, what's that sign? I said, Oh, it's 0:27:39.720 --> 0:27:42.880 one of my best stories. Like chair, it's gonna take 0:27:42.880 --> 0:27:47.000 a while. If you recorded on the podcast here next time, 0:27:47.040 --> 0:27:55.159 then you can just yeh, it's episode. I'm gonna call 0:27:55.200 --> 0:28:00.280 that episode Kelvin Wilkerson's Greatest Hits. Yeah, that's all injury lady, 0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:04.560 except for the sign. Anyways. That's me glad to be here. 0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:06.600 Oh did you say what you do though? Oh? Yeah, 0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:09.200 I'm a director of marketing and customer service. Whether we 0:28:09.560 --> 0:28:15.320 sharedan wyoming guy, Luke Luke Torkelson, I'm the vice president 0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:19.560 of Sales, Marketing and Productive Element at Weatherby, and my 0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:22.800 thumbs have not regenerated. You just got thumbs you're born with. 0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:26.440 The regular old thumbs are kind of boring. Well, Um, 0:28:26.680 --> 0:28:30.359 Brodies here, phil We already here from Philip Brody. Me 0:28:30.400 --> 0:28:34.880 and Brody just turned in uh for a group project. 0:28:35.119 --> 0:28:40.800 Mostly turned in our Wilderness Skills and Survival Book, which 0:28:41.920 --> 0:28:46.560 early estimates are that it will be about six hundred 0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:51.480 could around six hundred pages, last one you'll ever need. 0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:53.880 That sounds like a lot of value. But they're not 0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:56.040 gonna make you split it into two like they did 0:28:56.080 --> 0:29:00.560 the Complete Guy Hunting. That's a good story. People knows 0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:04.280 when we did the when we did the Ore I'm 0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:07.600 stumbling here. When we did our Complete Guide to Hunting, 0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:12.000 Butchering and Cooking Wild Game. That was intended to not 0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:13.800 be volume one and two. It was intending to be 0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:17.520 one big book. But that was a large format color 0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:21.080 book with the Brazilian photographs in it. So the publisher 0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:22.760 was like, you can't. We're not gonna make a seven 0:29:23.120 --> 0:29:27.000 page book, like they just don't do that, especially color 0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:30.960 and big. And she's like, either gotta like, we gotta 0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:33.360 figure it out, so either throw half of it in 0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:35.120 the carbage or make it too And that's how that 0:29:35.200 --> 0:29:40.120 came to be too. I'm not glad. Yeah, but this one, 0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:42.520 there's no splitting up. Yeah, you'd have to do like 0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:48.840 nine books, nine small books, so giant book. Uh, illustrations, 0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:52.360 beautiful illustrations, the same illustrator if you look at the 0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:55.720 complete guy. Did he do illustrations in the cookbook? I 0:29:55.720 --> 0:29:58.240 don't believe we had any illustrations in the cookbooks? Yeah, 0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:01.720 but he did do this ill straighter did do Yanni's 0:30:01.760 --> 0:30:05.800 special bandana series. That's rights how a go to do 0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:08.720 your bandana? Speaking of Yanni, He's got a couple of 0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:12.760 choice stories and Janni. Yanni's contributions in the book are 0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:20.440 so good we call him Jannis. People are sidebars. It's 0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:25.960 it's it under sells, It under sells these callis Yanni's inputs. 0:30:26.600 --> 0:30:31.360 Yanni on avalanche, Janni on spike camps, Yanni on all 0:30:31.440 --> 0:30:39.160 manner things in more, Yanni on the bears on pepper 0:30:39.200 --> 0:30:43.400 spray pistol debate. It's a good one, which he points 0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:46.560 out that one time he had his pistol and his 0:30:46.600 --> 0:30:48.800 pepper spraying. A bear came at him and he grabbed 0:30:48.840 --> 0:30:53.440 his treking pole. So when the rubber meets the road, 0:30:53.480 --> 0:30:56.960 I don't know, but in theory, here's what I was 0:30:57.000 --> 0:31:00.520 going for. But I had a really nice compliment about 0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:03.520 that book, and so directed at you guys, was that 0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:07.040 the book was very entertaining to read and story like, 0:31:07.280 --> 0:31:10.840 but was equally balanced with like good skills and education. 0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:14.000 Yeah it's a good como. Yeah, I mean stories like 0:31:14.080 --> 0:31:21.160 you were telling helped out with that bars get yours, Um, 0:31:21.200 --> 0:31:23.920 it'll be coming out. It'll be a while, but you 0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:27.120 know what you want to hear some hard salesmanship when 0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:29.440 that book comes. I'm talking to you people out there, 0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:33.240 when that book comes out, make no bones about it. 0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:37.080 I'm gonna come and like prepare, start saving your money 0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:41.040 and stuff like that, because when that book comes out. Um, 0:31:41.160 --> 0:31:43.000 we got screwed out of the best seller list with 0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:45.160 our fish and Game cookbook. I was so excited just 0:31:45.200 --> 0:31:47.360 for personal reasons and also just for general reasons to 0:31:47.400 --> 0:31:48.959 have it be then on the New York Times best 0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:53.520 seller list was a fishing game cookbook. I could go 0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:55.600 into a long story, but why we sold plenty of 0:31:55.600 --> 0:31:57.680 books to make the list, but the way they count, 0:31:57.840 --> 0:32:01.520 they were all quick less not publishing. Here, We're getting 0:32:01.520 --> 0:32:04.200 way off track. That's what people need to know this. 0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:06.560 So when you look at something in the New York 0:32:06.600 --> 0:32:09.880 Times best seller they don't they want to see it 0:32:09.960 --> 0:32:13.000 sold from a variety of sources. Because there's a thing 0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:15.479 where people can buy their own book onto the best 0:32:15.520 --> 0:32:16.880 seller list and now and then the book will make 0:32:16.920 --> 0:32:20.200 the best seller list and it gets accused of bulk accounts. 0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:22.800 So because if the if the if the weather is right, 0:32:22.920 --> 0:32:25.640 you could have a nonfiction book come out and sell 0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:29.200 like you know, four or five thousand copies and hit 0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:31.800 the best seller list in certain categories. So people with 0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:37.040 means have at times orchestrated their own best sellers where 0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:39.160 they just they had moneies on an object for them 0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:42.480 and they've they've gamed it. So what the Times likes 0:32:42.520 --> 0:32:47.200 to see is they like to see it's sold uh, 0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:50.440 all around the country from a variety of sources. Then 0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:52.560 what they like to see is they actually they actually 0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:55.239 do it. So at certain independent bookstores are two x 0:32:55.840 --> 0:32:59.360 when they when they run their formula. We sold all 0:32:59.360 --> 0:33:01.360 the books that were in print, We sold before the 0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:07.040 book came out, all through Amazon. So by the time 0:33:07.080 --> 0:33:10.160 the book came out, it was already it was already 0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:13.760 back ordered thousands of copies, and we had sold enough 0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:16.680 through pre orders to hit the best seller lists. In fact, 0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:19.479 we know the exact numbers of what the best seller 0:33:19.920 --> 0:33:23.040 because our publisher had a bunch of them. We know 0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:25.880 we sold more copies than books that beat us on 0:33:25.960 --> 0:33:29.080 the best seller list, but it didn't count because they 0:33:29.120 --> 0:33:32.480 had all been single source pre orders through Amazon, so 0:33:32.600 --> 0:33:38.080 the numbers were not accepted. So this time, man, we're 0:33:38.080 --> 0:33:40.160 talking about it pretty early. What is it June? We're 0:33:40.160 --> 0:33:43.200 talking about something's gonna happen in like November, December. But 0:33:43.400 --> 0:33:48.920 get ready, yeah, start asking your local books store now, 0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:51.040 plan on not getting it through Amazon? Is that what 0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:52.720 we need to tell them? Just they just need to 0:33:52.760 --> 0:33:55.040 buy it all over like you gotta buy it from 0:33:55.040 --> 0:33:59.800 a lot of places, multiple copies all up weather be 0:34:03.240 --> 0:34:07.520 asking if you got saying Amazon if you have, but 0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:09.800 if you have the option of buying it at a bookstore, 0:34:09.840 --> 0:34:12.239 do that. No, We're we're gonna we got it all. 0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:17.080 The problem is that that the enthusiasm for the book. 0:34:17.160 --> 0:34:18.760 Do you remember we did an episode of the podcast 0:34:18.840 --> 0:34:21.799 called Begging and Pleading. It was like, basically, we just 0:34:21.840 --> 0:34:24.719 told everyone's in the book. I think that to walk 0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:27.120 through this new book's gonna take it's gonna be begging 0:34:27.120 --> 0:34:32.960 and pleading part to A and B. Yep, you see 0:34:32.960 --> 0:34:35.600 what I'm saying. And we're gonna spend two episodes walking 0:34:35.640 --> 0:34:38.160 through the book. Everybody's got a order of the book, 0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:43.040 Just prepare yourself. I don't think it's going to be 0:34:43.040 --> 0:34:47.000 expensive per page. It's gonna be like barely that much 0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:49.880 money per page. You're right, But I tell you what, 0:34:49.920 --> 0:34:54.320 this is gonna be an expensive podcast the viewers because 0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:56.520 of all this stuff they gotta do. Yeah, yeah, we're 0:34:56.520 --> 0:34:59.719 not done. We're not done. You're not done selling, not 0:34:59.800 --> 0:35:02.120 even close. Okay, So we gotta move on towards sales park. 0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:04.320 We gotta introduced Adam. That was his three oh seven 0:35:04.360 --> 0:35:10.160 hat area code. Yep, okay, not four our six, not 0:35:10.239 --> 0:35:13.840 two oh six, and not nine oh seven three O seven, 0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:16.440 one of those one of the small handful of single 0:35:16.480 --> 0:35:20.120 area code states. For residents of that state tattoo that 0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:22.400 area code onto their arm, and then I wonder what 0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:24.400 happens when they split the area code or where a 0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:28.800 hat we had Actually that's for people who aren't very committed. 0:35:29.760 --> 0:35:32.160 We did a serial number of a gun and auctioned 0:35:32.200 --> 0:35:34.960 it off for I don't know what, fifteen grand or 0:35:34.960 --> 0:35:37.719 some fourteen or fourteen or fifteen thousand bucks because it 0:35:37.760 --> 0:35:40.399 was serio number three oh seven w y zero zero 0:35:40.480 --> 0:35:45.759 zero three zero seven fifteen grand for it. Really, there 0:35:45.840 --> 0:35:49.120 was a large subculture of people that are obsessed with that. Yeah, 0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:51.680 in Alaska, everybody gets nine oh seven tattoos and whatnot. 0:35:51.800 --> 0:35:53.480 But I feel that at some point they're gonna split 0:35:53.560 --> 0:35:55.799 the area codes. When I was a little boy, my 0:35:55.880 --> 0:35:59.000 area code was six six. Now it's to three one 0:36:00.000 --> 0:36:02.439 of what do I do with my tattoo? Then I'd 0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:04.640 have to change it into like the mark of the Beast. Six. 0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:07.480 Not gonna do that. No, I don't know. You're just 0:36:07.480 --> 0:36:13.760 stuck with the side. So be forewarned. Well, when people 0:36:13.760 --> 0:36:18.759 see that, they're just like, oh, he's o G. Or 0:36:18.840 --> 0:36:20.759 you put a little number next to it and say 0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:34.560 see footnotes and you can start tattooed footnote. So, Cal, 0:36:34.640 --> 0:36:37.440 the Land Access Initiative, you just came back from a location. 0:36:37.440 --> 0:36:38.759 I don't know if you can tell people what the 0:36:38.800 --> 0:36:42.680 location is or not. Yeah, I just came back from 0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:46.480 kind of a secret mission to Maine and UH I 0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:51.000 was working with some nonprofits. UM, so you know, it's 0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:55.279 essential travel for the good people. It's work related. It's 0:36:55.280 --> 0:36:58.400 got to be good. It's work related and essential for 0:36:58.440 --> 0:37:02.880 the people. So quick recap, big thank you to everybody 0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:07.760 who's purchased ronella who tell us campaign merch Ronella patels. 0:37:08.840 --> 0:37:11.360 Like we said, the proceeds from all of those sales 0:37:12.239 --> 0:37:17.120 are going to more hunting and fishing somehow, someway, We're 0:37:17.120 --> 0:37:23.440 gonna find access projects that provide more. That's the baseline. UH. 0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:29.640 And we reviewed an incredible amount of submissions over the 0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:34.400 last few months and started reaching out and and talking 0:37:34.400 --> 0:37:40.640 to individual UH project owners across the US real quick. 0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:43.200 With that process looked like for you, Cal, like what 0:37:43.280 --> 0:37:48.680 you asked of folks. Yeah, so there's a big questionnaire 0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:52.400 and then there are follow up questions, but uh, you know, 0:37:52.800 --> 0:37:55.480 essentially it was you know, how familiar you are with 0:37:55.560 --> 0:38:00.280 the project, what it provides, like, is it access to 0:38:00.640 --> 0:38:04.000 a landlocked chunk of ground as it accessed water? Doesn't 0:38:04.000 --> 0:38:10.359 provide opportunities for hunting and fishing both? What else can 0:38:10.400 --> 0:38:12.920 you do out there? What's the habitat like? Is this 0:38:12.960 --> 0:38:20.680 a habitat improvement project? Um? And really, you know, trying 0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:24.799 to whittle down to because the hard part with this 0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:27.719 stuff is you are never ever going to talk to 0:38:27.760 --> 0:38:32.160 somebody who's like, yeah, it's not that great of a place, 0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:34.200 but I just thought i'd throw it in there. You know, 0:38:34.360 --> 0:38:40.719 everybody is very attached to their project, their piece of ground. Uh, 0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:43.160 and they're and they're very passionate about it. Let me 0:38:43.200 --> 0:38:45.879 take this back one quick, one step even further back 0:38:46.040 --> 0:38:48.839 that what we're doing is we're maybe you just just said 0:38:48.880 --> 0:38:51.480 this not just being stupid, didn't catch it, but we're 0:38:51.520 --> 0:38:56.480 trying to we're raising money through Ronella who tells trying 0:38:56.520 --> 0:38:58.920 to do to try to do some to try to 0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:04.319 do land acquisition. Yes, and so cal was um soliciting 0:39:04.480 --> 0:39:08.239 input where people who are the eyes and ears on 0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:10.759 the landscape, people who would say, oh, you know, it 0:39:10.760 --> 0:39:13.399 would be a sweet property if we could get into 0:39:13.400 --> 0:39:17.680 the public domain. Yes, it was. Sorry, no, that's great. 0:39:17.719 --> 0:39:21.839 I mean, um, the you know, I'll tell you right now. 0:39:22.280 --> 0:39:27.759 And if this is you please right in call um 0:39:27.920 --> 0:39:32.239 like the pie in this guy idea. Is someone out 0:39:32.280 --> 0:39:35.719 there listening is going to be like, oh, well grandma, 0:39:35.920 --> 0:39:41.080 granddad there they'd be totally happy to shave off a 0:39:42.800 --> 0:39:46.160 long strip that connects to that huge chunk of national 0:39:46.239 --> 0:39:49.239 forest that nobody can get to or BLM or something 0:39:49.280 --> 0:39:51.960 like that. And and through a phone call and cutting 0:39:51.960 --> 0:39:55.520 a check And wouldn't that be a sweet river access 0:39:55.520 --> 0:39:57.799 on a chunk of river lake where no one can 0:39:57.840 --> 0:40:01.319 get into it? Yeah? And uh, you know, we just 0:40:01.920 --> 0:40:05.640 make a permanent easement for to get to get to 0:40:05.680 --> 0:40:09.640 the public to go down there and enjoy um. And 0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:13.960 then there's a huge variety of of projects that that 0:40:14.080 --> 0:40:18.960 came in that were more complex the you know, we 0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:25.920 ended up with folks that like, actually we're serious, filled 0:40:25.960 --> 0:40:31.239 out everything, uh the way you're supposed to and had 0:40:31.280 --> 0:40:37.319 an actual spot um that wasn't a mix of vague details, 0:40:37.880 --> 0:40:46.960 um two to sixty four full submissions. Yeah. Yeah, and 0:40:46.960 --> 0:40:48.920 and you know like I said, these were the people 0:40:48.920 --> 0:40:52.600 that were serious enough to be putting in some thoughts 0:40:52.680 --> 0:40:58.680 and then got those uh down quite a bit, um 0:40:58.680 --> 0:41:01.600 to to something man gible. And now you're out doing 0:41:01.600 --> 0:41:04.200 some Now you're out hitting the ground to try to 0:41:04.239 --> 0:41:07.799 get the smell of the place. Ye and me a 0:41:07.800 --> 0:41:10.960 beautiful photo of a waterfall. Yeah, and he found some 0:41:11.000 --> 0:41:14.680 moose and deer tracks. Yeah. And this place is is 0:41:14.719 --> 0:41:20.120 pretty unique because it's a body of water. Um. That is, 0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:27.160 the property is contiguous and and in the heart of 0:41:27.200 --> 0:41:33.480 this continuous property is a small lake, a pond um. 0:41:33.840 --> 0:41:37.759 And uh, it's it's really cool. Uh. You know our 0:41:37.960 --> 0:41:43.040 editor in chief, Anthony Locatta, Uh, he worked for a 0:41:43.120 --> 0:41:48.319 very long time at Field and Stream. Before that publication 0:41:48.400 --> 0:41:52.239 was called Field and Stream, it was called Forest and 0:41:52.360 --> 0:41:56.399 Stream was the predecessor to Field and Stream. And this 0:41:56.480 --> 0:42:01.160 body of water, uh was actually adver tized as a 0:42:01.200 --> 0:42:03.480 place for folks to get out of the city and 0:42:03.560 --> 0:42:11.000 come up and fish in. Yeah, yeah, they so are 0:42:11.040 --> 0:42:13.919 you Is it secret or not secret? I don't want 0:42:13.920 --> 0:42:19.000 to say that the actual township. Yeah, but this is 0:42:19.920 --> 0:42:22.759 this should give plenty of idea, right like right now, 0:42:23.280 --> 0:42:26.720 it's it's de facto public access it's in it's in Maine, 0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:28.960 but it is private property. And what a lot of 0:42:28.960 --> 0:42:33.800 folks don't realize about Maine is there is a ton 0:42:33.880 --> 0:42:37.600 of access in the state, but it is primarily private 0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:41.759 ground that just isn't posted. Don't you. I don't want 0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:43.359 to get out ahead of ourselves here, but we're gonna 0:42:43.360 --> 0:42:46.160 make a pledge to personally not ever go there to 0:42:46.200 --> 0:42:49.120 fish or anything. Listen to this, because I don't want 0:42:49.120 --> 0:42:51.880 anyone to think that it was that it was aish 0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:58.160 Judy Fisher Hill. Yeah a little bit, you got it. Yeah, 0:42:58.239 --> 0:43:00.200 he's just like taking it for he's taking it for 0:43:00.239 --> 0:43:05.840 a test ride, man, and then don't go back. Uh 0:43:06.080 --> 0:43:12.160 this camp that they had in their effishing their weekend 0:43:12.239 --> 0:43:19.360 take was five hundred trout damn. Is it a property 0:43:19.400 --> 0:43:25.560 that connects two more property? Yes, it does. It does 0:43:26.080 --> 0:43:28.240 more access than just the property. It's it's a multi 0:43:28.440 --> 0:43:30.640 year thing right now, it does, you know. But like 0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:35.160 I said, there's with the the convoluted part of this 0:43:35.280 --> 0:43:39.839 thing is uh there you know, there's groups working on 0:43:40.640 --> 0:43:44.920 providing permanent access. Right now, there's access to that ground, 0:43:45.560 --> 0:43:48.680 but it's not permanent. It's permanent in the fact that 0:43:49.239 --> 0:43:52.040 the landowners that have it now, are its still have 0:43:52.800 --> 0:43:55.960 the mindset that's been around Maine for a long long 0:43:56.040 --> 0:43:59.319 time of I'm not using all this ground. I don't 0:43:59.320 --> 0:44:01.799 need to post it. Folks want to occasionally walk through 0:44:01.840 --> 0:44:06.600 here to deer hunt or pick mushrooms or whatever, that's 0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:09.080 fine by me. Hunt grouse. We saw a ton of 0:44:09.440 --> 0:44:14.960 a ton of grouse, ton of rough grouse. Um. And 0:44:15.120 --> 0:44:19.320 uh yeah. But the hard part is is as these 0:44:19.400 --> 0:44:21.799 lands change over right, there used to be like these 0:44:21.840 --> 0:44:24.680 giant timber company lands up there. There still are some 0:44:25.360 --> 0:44:30.400 major timber company lands. Um. That's really what people are 0:44:30.600 --> 0:44:33.440 are doing a lot of hunting and fishing on. But 0:44:33.680 --> 0:44:36.680 it's private, just like you guys experience here in western Montana. 0:44:37.040 --> 0:44:40.960 There's kind of this de facto access program wiser lands 0:44:41.040 --> 0:44:43.520 and yeah, and it's been around for so long people 0:44:43.520 --> 0:44:46.600 are like, oh, that's just they don't even know what's 0:44:46.640 --> 0:44:48.880 private property and they think it's us for a service 0:44:48.880 --> 0:44:53.440 ground or something like that. Um, but it's like it 0:44:53.520 --> 0:44:57.960 changes hands one more time and that new buyer is like, well, no, no, no, 0:44:58.000 --> 0:45:01.319 I'm the privacy is what I want. Doesn't matter if 0:45:01.320 --> 0:45:03.160 I'm only there a weekend or whatever. So it's the 0:45:03.200 --> 0:45:05.319 goal to get a chunk shaved off that will just 0:45:05.360 --> 0:45:09.160 allow access to the public ground that's behind it. Uh. 0:45:09.360 --> 0:45:11.600 The goal right now would be to you, uh, would 0:45:11.640 --> 0:45:16.520 be to purchase this acreage that includes the pond um 0:45:16.600 --> 0:45:22.040 that there's a defined easement in place right now, little 0:45:22.080 --> 0:45:25.880 parking area, um footage, it's right now. It's foot access 0:45:26.000 --> 0:45:30.359 only into the pond um and it the cool part 0:45:30.440 --> 0:45:34.839 here is this township has zero public land owned by 0:45:34.840 --> 0:45:38.239 the township, and this would be the very first chunk 0:45:38.280 --> 0:45:42.680 of public land. Even though like it's it's fully documented 0:45:42.719 --> 0:45:46.480 that this township people growing up and living and raising 0:45:46.520 --> 0:45:50.680 families there. They've they've been utilizing this place, um since 0:45:50.760 --> 0:45:56.280 you know, well before got a little publicity and forest 0:45:56.320 --> 0:45:59.240 and stream. But because it toured a new one on traveled, 0:45:59.239 --> 0:46:01.080 they toured a new one in the raft and they're like, 0:46:01.120 --> 0:46:04.759 bring more camps. There's a lot relieving out because like 0:46:04.920 --> 0:46:09.080 a little like details. But uh, where we might land 0:46:09.120 --> 0:46:10.759 is this. So we got some money in the in 0:46:10.880 --> 0:46:16.120 the in the campaign confers. Um. But the election happens 0:46:16.160 --> 0:46:21.160 in November, right, so we'll take office. It's like the 0:46:21.160 --> 0:46:25.120 campaign will be going anymore. Um, we'll have a new 0:46:25.160 --> 0:46:27.640 Secretary of egg dug during we got our whole cabinet, 0:46:27.680 --> 0:46:30.680 a T F Ronnie Bam, Pat Durk and Secretary of 0:46:30.680 --> 0:46:33.400 the Navy. We got the whole cabinet filled out. But 0:46:33.680 --> 0:46:35.840 in the meantime, as long as you buy Ronald Patels 0:46:36.480 --> 0:46:41.319 better hunting and Fishing for America stuff, it goes into 0:46:41.400 --> 0:46:44.520 the our kiddy of money. When our kiddy of money 0:46:44.560 --> 0:46:48.600 is right and we identify our place, there might be 0:46:48.640 --> 0:46:53.920 a discrepancy, right, And when we identify what exactly that 0:46:54.000 --> 0:46:57.439 discrepancy is, there's gonna be a mad dash for to 0:46:57.440 --> 0:46:59.880 to find ways to get the support we need to 0:47:00.160 --> 0:47:02.840 push it across the finish line in a hurry. But 0:47:02.920 --> 0:47:08.000 don't dig into your book buying money. You gotta have 0:47:08.000 --> 0:47:10.840 a severate pile of money. We're gonna you're gonna have to. 0:47:11.200 --> 0:47:15.279 You got a many piggy jars here, um uh, your 0:47:15.360 --> 0:47:18.960 piggy banks rather the The other thing to keep in 0:47:19.000 --> 0:47:23.040 mind is, just like I said, you're never gonna go 0:47:23.120 --> 0:47:27.000 out be invited out to check out something that people 0:47:27.000 --> 0:47:30.400 don't care very passionately about. They all have an incredible 0:47:30.400 --> 0:47:36.760 amount of value um and I I do not want 0:47:37.160 --> 0:47:39.760 people to think like this is a one and done 0:47:39.800 --> 0:47:46.440 thing like, Um, this is uh the something the Cabinet's 0:47:46.480 --> 0:47:53.960 gonna push very strong for for multiple years, UM and 0:47:54.400 --> 0:47:57.080 hope that we can have just a long lasting program 0:47:58.360 --> 0:48:03.279 funded permanently fund exactly just like l WCF. Yeah, so 0:48:03.400 --> 0:48:05.840 the cow and Cal's work on this, he's expanded or 0:48:05.920 --> 0:48:08.560 this isn't This isn't a one off. This is not 0:48:08.680 --> 0:48:11.880 a one off. So Cal's gonna become like Ted Turner 0:48:14.000 --> 0:48:18.120 ranches and stuff all over the place, the inverse of like, yeah, 0:48:18.160 --> 0:48:21.479 I know about ranches all over the place, but yeah, 0:48:21.520 --> 0:48:24.279 so this this is a cool project. Uh. Found some 0:48:24.320 --> 0:48:27.439 moose tracks, found some deer tracks. Uh, there's a loon 0:48:27.600 --> 0:48:30.760 that comes in there every night. Um, catch any fish? 0:48:30.880 --> 0:48:36.760 One mallard in there? I uh my longlined released some 0:48:36.760 --> 0:48:41.880 some very small brick trout um and then uh what 0:48:41.960 --> 0:48:45.360 the heck else to really found two really cool frogs. 0:48:46.600 --> 0:48:51.360 Um still did a little uh chewing on some different 0:48:51.360 --> 0:48:54.799 plants species. Uh you go swimming? Is it a good 0:48:54.800 --> 0:48:59.239 swim pond? Yeah, it would be if it's deep. So 0:48:59.320 --> 0:49:02.200 I wasn't jumped in the water here in June. Yeah, yeah, 0:49:02.800 --> 0:49:06.040 you thought it would be chill? Yeah, where the Skeeter's 0:49:06.120 --> 0:49:09.160 bad I have a mosquito bite or like right in 0:49:09.239 --> 0:49:13.759 the very top of the gluteo crease that happens to 0:49:13.760 --> 0:49:16.400 be since I know, so when you scratch that, people 0:49:16.400 --> 0:49:19.359 think like you're not clean. Well yeah, and on top 0:49:19.400 --> 0:49:22.040 of that, like because I don't don't have a lot 0:49:22.080 --> 0:49:24.239 of meat on my butt, my pants like to ride 0:49:24.360 --> 0:49:29.040 right about there. It's just it's highly irritating. So as 0:49:29.080 --> 0:49:31.040 if we didn't want to shake hands for COVID, now 0:49:31.040 --> 0:49:38.319 we don't want to shake hand for exactly exactly. So that'sdemic. 0:49:40.600 --> 0:49:44.400 There's a huge project in Wyoming that's that's very cool. Um, 0:49:44.480 --> 0:49:49.800 that's that's being worked on by Shoutout three or seven. Yeah. Um. 0:49:49.880 --> 0:49:54.080 And there's a great project here in Montana that I'm actually, um, 0:49:54.080 --> 0:49:57.160 gonna have a phone call on here this evening too. 0:49:57.200 --> 0:49:59.640 So you haven't made the call yet, but you flew 0:49:59.640 --> 0:50:05.359 out there just to kind of feel it out right, Yeah. Yeah. 0:50:06.960 --> 0:50:11.400 Pavement for Yeah, the pavement for Access man. Yeah, and 0:50:11.400 --> 0:50:13.480 then there's so much more to go like this. Yeah. 0:50:13.520 --> 0:50:15.080 Like I said, we're gonna we're gonna be beaten on 0:50:15.120 --> 0:50:18.319 this stuff for a long time because um, you know, 0:50:19.080 --> 0:50:21.680 it's now or never for all of this stuff. I'd 0:50:21.719 --> 0:50:25.360 like to buy a whole state. Would because the whole 0:50:25.400 --> 0:50:28.520 state when you go to the meteor dot com to 0:50:28.640 --> 0:50:33.239 buy some Ronella Patelis merchandise, don't limit yourself or don't 0:50:33.239 --> 0:50:35.160 think that you're gonna limit yourself to a T shirt. 0:50:35.239 --> 0:50:39.880 There's hats, there's brown ones, there's Blaze orange ones, hunters 0:50:39.880 --> 0:50:43.799 orange for hunting season, sticks, bumper stickers. I think there's 0:50:43.800 --> 0:50:48.520 a small oval stick or two. There's a reusable cloth 0:50:48.640 --> 0:50:50.840 bag if you don't like to use the old plastic 0:50:50.880 --> 0:50:56.479 bags the grocery store. What else? Yard signs? Do they sell? Those? Really? 0:50:56.520 --> 0:51:02.040 Do we have? Yard signs? Might be coming? It was 0:51:02.080 --> 0:51:05.560 a salesman for a while Tarming and Sports. I can 0:51:05.600 --> 0:51:09.080 tell um he was a salesman and then he was 0:51:10.239 --> 0:51:11.920 the song and we just played it is actually called 0:51:11.960 --> 0:51:16.200 long tang Yanni, isn't it? Because he was a grill 0:51:16.280 --> 0:51:21.879 man that uh, don't tell me, Joannie. He's a grill 0:51:21.960 --> 0:51:26.400 man at Tuscaninis. Good work. And he was a salesman 0:51:26.400 --> 0:51:30.880 at Tarming Sports and he led in did you leading sales? 0:51:30.960 --> 0:51:38.759 Yeah no, no, that wasn't definitely not No. We don't 0:51:38.800 --> 0:51:41.640 keep track. What's going on? Tell us what's going on 0:51:41.640 --> 0:51:43.480 the weather. Be you guys are all getting all cozy 0:51:43.520 --> 0:51:47.200 in your new headquarters. Yeah, no doubt about that. We are. 0:51:47.320 --> 0:51:50.399 We're actually actually shut down. Did you get shut down 0:51:50.480 --> 0:51:53.160 because of No, it's it's the three or seven. We 0:51:53.200 --> 0:51:57.879 do what we want. Um, they still respect liberty down there. Yeah. Yeah, 0:51:58.640 --> 0:52:01.319 my wife heads up HR so that's helpful too. But no, 0:52:01.440 --> 0:52:03.640 we got a direct line. No, we had. You know, 0:52:03.960 --> 0:52:06.560 we didn't shut down, but you know, we had. We 0:52:06.640 --> 0:52:08.319 got a big factory. Were all able to kind of 0:52:08.320 --> 0:52:10.960 social distance keep our things going. We got a lot 0:52:10.960 --> 0:52:12.920 of room in there. Yeah, yeah, we do. I mean 0:52:12.960 --> 0:52:15.200 it's it's all you gotta depend on a supply chain 0:52:15.239 --> 0:52:17.560 from around the world coming in and customers to ship too. 0:52:17.560 --> 0:52:19.000 So every day there for a while it was a 0:52:19.040 --> 0:52:21.000 little hectic trying to figure out what's going on. But 0:52:21.040 --> 0:52:24.320 we're all healthy and we're making guns. Did you um, 0:52:24.480 --> 0:52:29.480 did you guys run into problem uh, problems where components 0:52:29.640 --> 0:52:31.400 you needed were coming from places that weren't able to 0:52:31.400 --> 0:52:33.279 produce components. Yeah. The reason to bring this up is 0:52:33.360 --> 0:52:36.840 that was at sports was warehouse. We're going fishing this 0:52:36.880 --> 0:52:38.120 week up with the kids. I had to go grab 0:52:38.200 --> 0:52:42.040 like you know, sinkers, bobbers, bait holder hooks, all that 0:52:42.120 --> 0:52:44.040 kind of stuff. The tends to get left and all 0:52:44.040 --> 0:52:48.920 the trees around the intends get left push around um 0:52:49.080 --> 0:52:52.480 to stripped clean. I mean the store is stripped clean. 0:52:53.480 --> 0:52:59.000 I'm guessing that's a function of supply chain and demand, 0:52:59.520 --> 0:53:02.359 you know, to it's it's really both. I mean in 0:53:02.480 --> 0:53:05.359 firearms right now, obviously everybody's been kind of reading there's 0:53:05.400 --> 0:53:08.319 crazy things going on. Are are our product line because 0:53:08.320 --> 0:53:10.760 we're kind of more of a you know, primarily hunting, 0:53:11.239 --> 0:53:13.799 you know, less self defense and that sort of thing. 0:53:13.840 --> 0:53:17.000 So we didn't see the spike. Everybody else same with 0:53:17.080 --> 0:53:19.520 just the sustenance and going out there and harveston mile 0:53:19.640 --> 0:53:21.680 meat and catch the mole fish and just getting outdoors. 0:53:21.680 --> 0:53:23.560 Finally too, I think there's a delay on that and 0:53:23.640 --> 0:53:26.160 people have been a little trapped. And but the supply 0:53:26.239 --> 0:53:28.839 chain was certainly there. I mean, we have a lot 0:53:28.840 --> 0:53:31.160 of components. Say go into one rifle and so I 0:53:31.160 --> 0:53:34.200 mean one spring can hold up a whole rifle from 0:53:34.239 --> 0:53:35.920 going out the door. But you didn't run into that. 0:53:36.480 --> 0:53:39.720 We ran into not not bad, We ran into some stuff. 0:53:39.760 --> 0:53:43.720 We were kind of fortunate and yeah, maybe not even weeks. 0:53:43.760 --> 0:53:45.560 But we were fortunate. Some of the bumps we had 0:53:45.600 --> 0:53:47.560 were the things we already had product of, and the 0:53:47.560 --> 0:53:51.280 things we needed we kind of had, so we're just yeah, 0:53:51.320 --> 0:53:55.480 I didn't really appreciate the lengths of where that of 0:53:55.480 --> 0:53:58.480 how that stuff would affect manufacturing. But I was even 0:53:58.480 --> 0:54:01.640 trying to find a part for jet foot on an 0:54:01.640 --> 0:54:06.000 outboard engine, and well, I call this guy and he's like, man, 0:54:06.840 --> 0:54:08.759 you and everybody in the country. I'm like, how many 0:54:08.760 --> 0:54:11.760 people are actually looking for like an impellers sleep because 0:54:11.760 --> 0:54:15.080 they're all gone. There's like one guy in California that 0:54:15.120 --> 0:54:17.359 makes him he can't go into his plant because there 0:54:17.360 --> 0:54:19.880 are none. If you find one. Let me know. The 0:54:19.960 --> 0:54:22.759 weird demand and the supply chain stuff, and I mean, 0:54:22.800 --> 0:54:24.840 it's it's weird. And of course we you know, shipped 0:54:24.880 --> 0:54:28.080 a gun dealers around the country and everybody with FFLs, 0:54:28.080 --> 0:54:30.520 and it's like, man, we had a COVID hold list 0:54:30.840 --> 0:54:33.400 of just different states and different things and who you 0:54:33.400 --> 0:54:36.000 could chip two and who you couldn't lose. Definitely nuts 0:54:36.040 --> 0:54:39.279 For a while, some of our distributors had some of 0:54:39.280 --> 0:54:43.400 their best days in history, like ten of them in 0:54:43.400 --> 0:54:46.759 a row, and so they're telling us, hey, pause for 0:54:46.800 --> 0:54:48.600 a minute on some of the hunting stuff because we 0:54:48.680 --> 0:54:50.440 gotta get nine mill and two to three m O 0:54:50.560 --> 0:54:55.040 up in. Yeah. Yeah, but that's probably cool. I don't know, 0:54:55.120 --> 0:54:57.520 maybe that's cool off a little bit. Now we're in 0:54:57.600 --> 0:55:00.840 riot season. Yeah, I still think it's pretty Yeah, it 0:55:00.960 --> 0:55:04.200 actually upticked again now with all the violence in the 0:55:04.200 --> 0:55:07.080 country and stuff, so it's everybody's scared. Yeah, So it's 0:55:07.200 --> 0:55:10.400 you know, we've seen fear bind over the years, politically 0:55:10.480 --> 0:55:13.239 driven a lot or unfortunately, say after you know, some 0:55:13.320 --> 0:55:15.480 sort of tragedy in the country, some guys come out 0:55:15.560 --> 0:55:17.479 say we're gonna, you know, pull an out more fund 0:55:17.520 --> 0:55:19.040 on you and you know that sort of thing, and 0:55:19.480 --> 0:55:21.359 you know, take your guns, and it spikes and for 0:55:21.440 --> 0:55:24.160 us in our line, like people like, wow, he must 0:55:24.160 --> 0:55:26.680 be selling a lot of guns right now. We're again 0:55:26.719 --> 0:55:28.960 we try to make just a good quality product for 0:55:28.960 --> 0:55:30.960 you to go taking the outdoors. It's not as much 0:55:31.000 --> 0:55:34.480 that fear buying stuff, but it affects the whole industry. 0:55:34.560 --> 0:55:38.680 So the demand is different, what dealers stock is different, 0:55:38.719 --> 0:55:41.239 what they have, what they don't have, where their attention is, 0:55:41.239 --> 0:55:43.560 so the whole thing kind of affects. It's a kind 0:55:43.560 --> 0:55:46.080 of a giant you know pool that everything kind of 0:55:46.080 --> 0:55:49.160 gets mixed up in. But for us, we just like stable, 0:55:49.280 --> 0:55:50.880 like this is what our customers want, we want to 0:55:50.920 --> 0:55:52.400 make it, we want to get it to them. So 0:55:52.440 --> 0:55:54.560 it's a it's a little different rather than the because 0:55:54.600 --> 0:55:57.799 after a big high, you get a big lower because 0:55:57.800 --> 0:56:00.640 then you get everything overstocked. Everybody discounts it, rebates it, 0:56:00.680 --> 0:56:02.560 and so it's a little messy. So we just try 0:56:02.600 --> 0:56:06.080 to provide more consistency. We were I can't remember who 0:56:06.080 --> 0:56:09.600 else taking the other day, we were visiting about the 0:56:09.600 --> 0:56:14.320 the um, either the real or perceived twenty two ammo 0:56:14.840 --> 0:56:19.440 scare of what the hell here was that? But the 0:56:19.440 --> 0:56:22.960 thing is like it feeds on itself because I never 0:56:22.960 --> 0:56:24.960 thought anything about twenty two shells. I mean, I always 0:56:25.200 --> 0:56:27.480 if I need twos, i'd go and buy like one 0:56:27.520 --> 0:56:31.399 of those slidey c C I whatever, like, hey, there's 0:56:31.560 --> 0:56:34.520 twenty two shows. But the minute I heard it was 0:56:34.560 --> 0:56:36.640 the shortest twenty two shells that walk into a store 0:56:36.719 --> 0:56:38.520 and I see twenty two shells and I'd buy them all. 0:56:39.640 --> 0:56:41.880 Or you see, like there's a limit of a limit 0:56:41.920 --> 0:56:44.120 of one thousand, twenty two shells, and I'd be like well, 0:56:44.160 --> 0:56:47.480 I'll be damn if I'm not buying a thousand even 0:56:47.520 --> 0:56:51.120 though I need zero. That's right. And I even saw, 0:56:51.200 --> 0:56:54.320 like during that shortage, it was that I was in 0:56:54.360 --> 0:56:57.000 a Cabela's one time. You couldn't buy twenty two am 0:56:57.160 --> 0:57:03.920 if you didn't get a Cabella's credit card. To get AMMO. 0:57:04.080 --> 0:57:06.360 You had sign up for a credit card I remember 0:57:06.400 --> 0:57:07.880 you had. If you you can only get it if 0:57:07.880 --> 0:57:10.120 you bought a gun. Like I remember I would walk 0:57:10.160 --> 0:57:12.520 into Best Pro Shop and you could buy a twenty 0:57:12.520 --> 0:57:14.799 two rifle and you only got the twenty two AMO 0:57:14.840 --> 0:57:18.240 if you bought that rifle. Little combos like that flying 0:57:18.280 --> 0:57:21.440 all over the place. And then there's articles being written 0:57:21.480 --> 0:57:24.320 where people thought that there's all these conspiracy theories, but 0:57:24.360 --> 0:57:27.480 it was basically in the end, it seems like the 0:57:27.520 --> 0:57:32.680 main argument is UH, people to manufacture ammunition, tool up 0:57:32.760 --> 0:57:36.480 to manufacture certain kinds of ammunition, and then they tool 0:57:36.560 --> 0:57:38.280 up and do other runs, and they were just busy 0:57:38.360 --> 0:57:43.160 doing not two. It is true making AMMO, you gotta 0:57:43.200 --> 0:57:46.040 do big, big runs of certain things. There's really long 0:57:46.120 --> 0:57:49.080 lead times, like making brass you know doesn't happen overnight, 0:57:49.200 --> 0:57:51.520 and you know, getting powder there can be powder shortages 0:57:51.560 --> 0:57:53.440 to the different things. So it is true, like you 0:57:53.480 --> 0:57:55.800 can't just flip a switch, you know, and do that. 0:57:55.880 --> 0:57:59.800 Like it's months of planning in advance for that. Yeah, 0:58:00.120 --> 0:58:07.840 so two shells and now uh and masks. Yeah, thing like, 0:58:08.600 --> 0:58:12.640 because I'm not loading my own AMMO anymore? Can I 0:58:12.720 --> 0:58:15.600 like collect all my weather be brass and just send 0:58:15.600 --> 0:58:19.040 it to an address and you guys will take it 0:58:19.040 --> 0:58:24.440 back and make it into come down with the pocketful 0:58:24.480 --> 0:58:28.920 will help you out? Or like for Federal ammo, can 0:58:28.960 --> 0:58:32.200 you have all that brass and just chip it off 0:58:32.200 --> 0:58:35.919 to Federal just as like a recycling program. What happens 0:58:35.920 --> 0:58:40.480 if you mail it back to him? Yeah, we actually 0:58:40.480 --> 0:58:42.960 sell our once fired brass that we use in our 0:58:43.040 --> 0:58:47.200 testing brass. Yeah, as we go through it, we repackage 0:58:47.200 --> 0:58:50.640 it into over packaging and we sell it because it's 0:58:51.360 --> 0:58:55.680 you sell it as brass online. We'll just go, okay, 0:58:55.720 --> 0:58:57.360 we got a bunch of it from our ranges and 0:58:57.360 --> 0:58:59.040 then just put it on like a day later. It's 0:58:59.040 --> 0:59:02.160 just gone going and eat it up. Like is it 0:59:02.240 --> 0:59:04.880 like a like a mixed platter, like a chef's platter. 0:59:07.760 --> 0:59:12.720 You don't really just sweep up the floor into a 0:59:12.800 --> 0:59:16.800 garbage bag instead. They're not making jewelry out of the stuff, 0:59:17.760 --> 0:59:19.640 so they don't have a spent primer. So you gotta 0:59:19.680 --> 0:59:21.200 get the primer out on your own and if you 0:59:21.200 --> 0:59:23.200 want to tumble it, whatever you want to do. The 0:59:23.760 --> 0:59:26.720 guys that want it, you just count and you sell it. 0:59:26.760 --> 0:59:28.880 You just sell it as doom people a favorite. It's 0:59:28.920 --> 0:59:30.840 not like a lot of money. It's better than us 0:59:30.880 --> 0:59:33.080 just recycling it, because that'd be the next best things. 0:59:33.200 --> 0:59:36.200 We can't sell it as new ammo if if it's 0:59:36.200 --> 0:59:39.120 already been shot, because it's you know, the annealing lines 0:59:39.160 --> 0:59:40.720 is gonna be a little bit different and it's gonna 0:59:40.760 --> 0:59:43.120 look a little more dull, So we don't it's not 0:59:43.160 --> 0:59:46.120 worth the time to retumble and reanneal and do all 0:59:46.160 --> 0:59:49.320 that stuff. So you guys had some really nice brass. Yeah, 0:59:50.200 --> 0:59:57.640 well thank you, honest nice brass. The how many times 0:59:57.680 --> 1:00:00.400 can you read the lood a shell? Oh, it's depends 1:00:00.400 --> 1:00:03.760 on the brass, and it depends on the cartridge. It does, 1:00:04.160 --> 1:00:09.440 so anywhere give me a more satisfying answer. That's a 1:00:09.520 --> 1:00:13.200 rabbit hole. Five. Yeah, the comments will fly in. Well 1:00:13.360 --> 1:00:18.360 I've done don't know. Yeah, I mean there you'll find 1:00:18.400 --> 1:00:21.720 people that will say they'll only load it three times, 1:00:22.120 --> 1:00:24.880 and then you'll have people that depending on the load 1:00:24.960 --> 1:00:28.040 that they make, that they've developed, that they've shot for years, 1:00:28.040 --> 1:00:31.160 they might load it five times. The risk being that 1:00:31.320 --> 1:00:34.720 something eventually weakens. Yeah, but you find that in the loading, 1:00:34.760 --> 1:00:36.920 not in the shooting. So your neck, you know, as 1:00:36.960 --> 1:00:40.680 you're resizing, it's going to begin to have problems that So. Yeah, 1:00:40.720 --> 1:00:43.400 so it's not the integrity of it necessarily, you know 1:00:43.440 --> 1:00:45.360 when you're firing it, but you can tell when it's 1:00:45.560 --> 1:00:47.920 you know, the neck might start to crack. Um, you 1:00:47.960 --> 1:00:49.640 know a different things as you're doing it sort of 1:00:49.680 --> 1:00:52.240 just weaken. Now you generally see it before you pull 1:00:52.280 --> 1:00:55.800 the trigger. You know it was played out. And uh, 1:00:55.960 --> 1:00:58.439 but you when you sell ammy, you don't sell one. 1:00:58.920 --> 1:01:03.240 People aren't into that. What all of our m o's 1:01:03.720 --> 1:01:06.400 never been fired, I mean on the on the case itself. 1:01:06.720 --> 1:01:08.880 So and then when we're doing our testing or load 1:01:08.880 --> 1:01:11.480 development or whatever, we've got to just piles and piles 1:01:11.480 --> 1:01:14.040 of brass. So we'll just sell that as once fired 1:01:14.080 --> 1:01:18.960 brass after we shoot it. How many times do you um, 1:01:19.080 --> 1:01:23.400 does every rifle get shot? Good question, Yes, every rifle 1:01:23.520 --> 1:01:27.920 actually gets a proof load. Through it. Okay, so not everyone, 1:01:28.280 --> 1:01:31.400 you know, we still thousands against Um, I'm not personally 1:01:31.400 --> 1:01:33.760 going down Everybody thinks my grandpa, did I know that 1:01:35.480 --> 1:01:37.680 I go down there personally shoot a target and send 1:01:37.680 --> 1:01:41.040 it off to everybody. But um, obviously we we a 1:01:41.040 --> 1:01:43.280 lot test for accuracy, and do I mean we accuracy 1:01:43.320 --> 1:01:45.400 test with you know, two underground ranges. You guys have 1:01:45.440 --> 1:01:49.120 seen it, and we do accuracy testing every single day. Um. 1:01:49.200 --> 1:01:51.760 So whether that's we got a new barrel, whether that's 1:01:51.760 --> 1:01:53.680 we got a new cartridge, a different load, a different 1:01:53.680 --> 1:01:56.760 type of prowder powder, a different lot of you know, 1:01:56.800 --> 1:01:59.960 certain bullets, a different lot of brass, I mean everything. 1:02:00.200 --> 1:02:02.400 You a different contour barrel, different type of steel in 1:02:02.440 --> 1:02:04.640 the barrel, a different type of carbon fiber. But all 1:02:04.680 --> 1:02:07.840 those things are going to affect the accuracy betting. So 1:02:08.000 --> 1:02:09.800 all of those things send us down to the range. 1:02:10.360 --> 1:02:13.439 Every gun, every rifle is actually shot with a proof load, 1:02:13.760 --> 1:02:16.919 and that proofload is actually loaded hotter, so like it's 1:02:17.080 --> 1:02:20.480 we actually there. The loads are colored so you know that, um, 1:02:20.520 --> 1:02:23.760 they're beyond you know usually say a load depending upon 1:02:23.800 --> 1:02:26.600 the cartridges in the low sixty thousand something p s. 1:02:26.640 --> 1:02:30.160 I So obviously we're that's what's going on inside the chamber, correct, 1:02:30.200 --> 1:02:32.880 So you know, we're delivering a product every day to 1:02:33.040 --> 1:02:36.600 customers that are putting you know, sixty plus ps I 1:02:36.680 --> 1:02:41.840 within inches somebody's face. That's what's your tire on your truck. 1:02:44.920 --> 1:02:51.480 So it's like it's obviously something you're not underneath truck. 1:02:51.920 --> 1:02:53.800 You're putting it foot and a half away from your 1:02:53.880 --> 1:02:56.800 kid's head, you know. So it's it's crazy stuff. So 1:02:56.800 --> 1:02:59.560 obviously the development our action is really important there so 1:02:59.640 --> 1:03:01.400 that we and tell the integrity of it. So every 1:03:01.480 --> 1:03:05.040 rifle that we produce has a proofload through it and 1:03:05.200 --> 1:03:08.240 in depending on that load, who makes those proofloads either, 1:03:08.600 --> 1:03:12.160 it depends, like the Ammo companies actually do so different 1:03:12.320 --> 1:03:15.480 Ammo companies do. We make some, but then we'll get them, 1:03:15.520 --> 1:03:16.840 you know, you can buy them through. I mean, you 1:03:16.960 --> 1:03:19.040 name an Ammo company, you know they're gonna probably have 1:03:19.040 --> 1:03:23.200 a proofload department. Oh, I don't know about that. I 1:03:23.240 --> 1:03:26.560 don't think so, I don't know, because what it is 1:03:26.560 --> 1:03:29.920 is you're giving it. So if it's let's say normally 1:03:30.000 --> 1:03:34.360 you're sid max p S. I getting technical here. I 1:03:34.360 --> 1:03:36.080 know you do that on your podcast from time to time. 1:03:36.160 --> 1:03:39.800 But the Sammy speck kind of the governing regular governing agency. 1:03:39.840 --> 1:03:43.280 If you would of those safety type of things for firearms, 1:03:43.360 --> 1:03:46.479 let's say it's sixty that proofload could be eighty five 1:03:47.520 --> 1:03:50.400 p s I. So if a guy goes in hand loads, 1:03:50.560 --> 1:03:52.880 not that we've ever had any customers put the wrong powder, 1:03:52.920 --> 1:03:56.560 say in the cartridge before ever the wildcat. No. No, 1:03:56.680 --> 1:03:58.640 we have a customer service department for a reason, but 1:03:58.920 --> 1:04:01.720 for a lot of reasons. But so we actually put 1:04:01.760 --> 1:04:03.640 that so it's hot in there. So if for some 1:04:03.720 --> 1:04:07.400 reason all the things went wrong, uh, customer handload, put 1:04:07.440 --> 1:04:09.680 different pattern, all those things that we know that the 1:04:09.720 --> 1:04:12.240 structural integrity of that action is going to hold up 1:04:12.520 --> 1:04:15.680 with a proofload in there. UM. So every rifle has 1:04:15.720 --> 1:04:21.480 a proofload that goes through it. Uh. And then uh, yeah, 1:04:21.560 --> 1:04:26.040 we have like a it's a proofload uh fixture trap. 1:04:26.400 --> 1:04:28.439 So it's not like you're scoping that up and going 1:04:28.480 --> 1:04:30.760 down to the range because you're not doing anything for accuracy. 1:04:30.880 --> 1:04:33.480 When you're doing you want to make sure it functions. 1:04:33.480 --> 1:04:36.120 So we actually have a fixture that we put it in, 1:04:36.480 --> 1:04:38.120 UM and it goes into that fixture and it's in 1:04:38.120 --> 1:04:41.080 a room about the size of this podcast room, and uh, 1:04:41.240 --> 1:04:43.680 there's a there's a blast shield that comes over it. 1:04:44.000 --> 1:04:47.680 So any and it's triggered remotely if you do have 1:04:47.760 --> 1:04:50.520 some kind of thing, right, we do value the lives 1:04:50.560 --> 1:04:53.320 and health of our employees, so so it goes in, 1:04:55.840 --> 1:04:57.640 so it goes into this trap you know, kind of 1:04:57.640 --> 1:04:59.840 in the room. So it's just a safety type of 1:04:59.840 --> 1:05:02.280 thing that happens with it. Um and then the accuracy 1:05:02.320 --> 1:05:06.160 happens on a frequent basis. But not everyone you know, 1:05:06.240 --> 1:05:08.200 is shot and that depends we have a range certified 1:05:08.240 --> 1:05:10.200 type of thing or you know, custom guns are a 1:05:10.200 --> 1:05:14.080 different story. But yeah, and then so the reason that's 1:05:14.080 --> 1:05:15.480 great to know, I don't know all that, but the 1:05:15.480 --> 1:05:17.560 reason was asking is too much info? Do you know? 1:05:17.680 --> 1:05:19.520 Not at all? But do you then go clean it 1:05:19.640 --> 1:05:21.520 so someone doesn't buy it and it looks like it's 1:05:21.520 --> 1:05:23.800 been shot. Do people look and they want to look 1:05:23.840 --> 1:05:26.360 like I've been shot? Well, there's an actual process and 1:05:26.360 --> 1:05:28.520 then you know, plus there's a break in procedure that 1:05:28.560 --> 1:05:30.680 we recommend for our rifles as well, So you know 1:05:30.680 --> 1:05:34.280 that somebody's gonna do um, you know, upon getting their rifles. 1:05:34.280 --> 1:05:36.160 So they're gonna you know, get it and do a 1:05:36.160 --> 1:05:37.960 bunch of break in, So usually you want it to 1:05:38.080 --> 1:05:40.880 dirty up just a bit. How real is the break 1:05:40.920 --> 1:05:43.400 in process in your mind? So I feel like it's 1:05:43.400 --> 1:05:46.479 like a thing that a lot of people just ignore. Yeah, 1:05:46.520 --> 1:05:49.120 So we actually just did our weather be podcast. We 1:05:49.160 --> 1:05:51.360 did a full episode on break in because it's one 1:05:51.400 --> 1:05:54.520 of the most asked questions we get. Meaning they phrase 1:05:54.600 --> 1:05:58.400 it like, do I really have take the time to 1:05:58.400 --> 1:06:01.240 do forty rounds of whether be munition down the pipe? 1:06:01.280 --> 1:06:02.880 Does it help? Does it not? I still can't get 1:06:02.920 --> 1:06:06.120 to shoot. So we actually, um, we actually just updated 1:06:06.120 --> 1:06:09.320 our breaking process about a month ago. Our engineers have 1:06:09.360 --> 1:06:11.360 actually been doing a lot of a lot of testing 1:06:11.400 --> 1:06:14.320 on that recently to really see and and to be honest, 1:06:14.320 --> 1:06:21.640 it does help. And it's fling and cleaning. So you 1:06:21.640 --> 1:06:24.240 have the you know, the rifling process of that barrel. 1:06:24.440 --> 1:06:28.880 Accuracy is so dependent upon barrel quality inconsistency, and so 1:06:28.960 --> 1:06:30.880 you have a chunk of steel that you've really put 1:06:30.920 --> 1:06:32.960 a lot of stress into. So you've drilled it, you've 1:06:33.040 --> 1:06:35.720 reamed it, you've rifled it, honed it, you know, done 1:06:35.720 --> 1:06:38.400 all these different things, lapped it to the inside of 1:06:38.400 --> 1:06:40.880 that barrel, and so a lot of it, you know, 1:06:40.920 --> 1:06:43.360 as that bullet catches the rifling inside of there and 1:06:43.400 --> 1:06:46.440 those lands and grooves and as it travels through there. Um. 1:06:46.480 --> 1:06:49.400 Really what you're doing is is breaking in the inside 1:06:49.400 --> 1:06:52.200 of that bore um in essence, so that as it 1:06:52.240 --> 1:06:55.600 goes through there's consistency um as it does that. Obviously, 1:06:55.640 --> 1:06:57.000 it's not like we send it out with birds. I mean, 1:06:57.000 --> 1:06:59.880 all those things are checked. But really, when you're firing, 1:07:00.120 --> 1:07:03.640 you're truly breaking that in I guess you know, but 1:07:03.720 --> 1:07:06.480 you're you're, in some minor way changing the inside of 1:07:06.480 --> 1:07:10.360 it until it gets like to a state of bullets 1:07:10.360 --> 1:07:12.840 going through that thing so fast that it's that it 1:07:12.960 --> 1:07:15.240 is changing it a little bit at a time. And 1:07:15.280 --> 1:07:17.640 so when you send three bullets down it, you know 1:07:17.640 --> 1:07:21.800 are breaking procedures. Three shots clean it, three shots clean it. 1:07:22.120 --> 1:07:24.320 Which asked me, if I ever do that? Yeah, so 1:07:24.360 --> 1:07:29.240 that's it's a loaded question. Anyways, it's a loaded question, Tea. 1:07:30.480 --> 1:07:32.360 You've got a lot of people that won't adhere to 1:07:32.400 --> 1:07:34.880 it and probably are just fine. And then you've got 1:07:34.880 --> 1:07:37.600 a lot of people that buy a weather be rifle 1:07:37.680 --> 1:07:41.360 that's a quality item and they follow the procedure, and 1:07:41.360 --> 1:07:44.080 that's good. It's good either way. But as we've seen 1:07:44.160 --> 1:07:48.000 testing in the recent months, uh and as we look 1:07:48.040 --> 1:07:50.880 at it on data from the engineers. I personally do 1:07:51.040 --> 1:07:53.000 think it matters. We got graphs and I mean, so 1:07:53.040 --> 1:07:55.920 we've done all that and it does matter. I have 1:07:56.000 --> 1:07:59.000 picked vanguards out of a box in a three hundred 1:07:59.000 --> 1:08:00.600 weather being just gone down to the range and shot 1:08:00.680 --> 1:08:02.760 subb half minute, you know of angle groups, I mean, 1:08:02.840 --> 1:08:06.120 just just right out of the box. There's there's so 1:08:06.200 --> 1:08:08.400 much of a variance to even from barrel to barrel 1:08:09.120 --> 1:08:12.280 of the same factory, bullet to bullet, and that's what's crazy, 1:08:12.440 --> 1:08:15.200 and it's hard, and it blows engineers minds a little 1:08:15.200 --> 1:08:17.080 bit because they don't like it. They like to say, 1:08:17.360 --> 1:08:20.080 here's a formula and this works. And there are certain 1:08:20.120 --> 1:08:23.400 things obviously to make an accurate rifle, like inherently accurate. 1:08:23.880 --> 1:08:27.320 But it's amazing the variation that you will get in 1:08:27.400 --> 1:08:31.880 anybody's rifles from gun to gun bullet, you know what 1:08:32.000 --> 1:08:34.000 loads it might like. You might have a you know, 1:08:34.360 --> 1:08:36.720 a six weather be I have a six factory in 1:08:36.760 --> 1:08:38.719 a wather the same model, and yours likes a different 1:08:38.720 --> 1:08:42.479 bullet than mine. It's crazy every time. It is probably 1:08:42.520 --> 1:08:47.519 because that that barrel is whatever is long, and there's 1:08:47.520 --> 1:08:50.559 just differences in there. We need to come back to 1:08:50.640 --> 1:08:53.639 this when we talk about the next thing, because there's 1:08:53.640 --> 1:08:56.439 a good tie in to the to the next thing 1:08:56.479 --> 1:08:59.680 and break in and what happens to a group on 1:09:00.280 --> 1:09:04.599 a personal collaboration type thing that we're gonna cal went 1:09:04.600 --> 1:09:07.360 out today and uh and shot a group and the 1:09:07.400 --> 1:09:11.720 first two was was actually we thought the second shot 1:09:11.800 --> 1:09:14.439 missed the paper, but it was through his first same hole. Yeah, 1:09:14.640 --> 1:09:17.800 like Robin Hood, dude, he broke it in today and 1:09:17.880 --> 1:09:20.240 actually shot four and five, he shot five. One and 1:09:20.280 --> 1:09:21.439 two were in the same one and four and five 1:09:21.479 --> 1:09:23.519 were in the same hole. Really, how far apart were 1:09:23.560 --> 1:09:24.960 one in two and four and five? And what happened 1:09:24.960 --> 1:09:30.960 to three? Well, three was solid question between their less 1:09:31.000 --> 1:09:33.920 than an inch and a half apart. Three was only 1:09:34.200 --> 1:09:36.240 from one and two. Three was I would say point 1:09:36.280 --> 1:09:38.519 six point seven away from one and two. Four and 1:09:38.600 --> 1:09:42.519 five got a little bit high high or something group, 1:09:43.600 --> 1:09:46.120 But real quick the breaking period before we leave leave 1:09:46.200 --> 1:09:50.720 that basically forty rounds at shots at a time, and no, 1:09:50.840 --> 1:09:54.680 not forty So you said forty I think something said 1:09:57.200 --> 1:10:00.840 give us the summary. A one is there's a lot 1:10:00.840 --> 1:10:04.559 of information on weatherby dot com. But um uh you can. 1:10:05.439 --> 1:10:07.920 We suggest now one box of AMMO. And we did 1:10:07.920 --> 1:10:12.160 this strategically because it's difficult. We don't want people to 1:10:12.200 --> 1:10:14.960 have to buy more AMMO than they need to use. 1:10:15.479 --> 1:10:17.840 Because amo in in today's time, even if you're shooting 1:10:17.880 --> 1:10:20.080 six five creed more is fairly expensive, even compared to 1:10:20.120 --> 1:10:22.720 any magnum load you're looking at. AMMO prices have just 1:10:22.760 --> 1:10:25.880 gone up in general. But um we suggest a one 1:10:25.960 --> 1:10:28.800 box break in. We wanted to make it less than 1:10:28.840 --> 1:10:32.160 forty rounds, and with all the testing we've recently done, 1:10:32.880 --> 1:10:35.519 we felt confident in being able to change that break 1:10:35.520 --> 1:10:38.680 in period to a one box um and so we 1:10:38.720 --> 1:10:42.760 suggest doing it with two different loads because as Adam said, 1:10:42.880 --> 1:10:44.880 it might like a one thirty or it might like 1:10:44.960 --> 1:10:47.240 a one forty. And if you're gonna shoot it anyways, 1:10:47.520 --> 1:10:50.920 grain bullet. If you're gonna shoot it anyways and pick 1:10:51.000 --> 1:10:54.240 the best bullet, you might as well figure out which 1:10:54.240 --> 1:10:56.519 one it is during break in. It also just helps 1:10:56.520 --> 1:10:59.080 with the fouling of the barrel. So we suggest a 1:10:59.120 --> 1:11:02.160 one box break in. It's generally I believe three shots clean, 1:11:02.320 --> 1:11:05.280 three shots clean, resting in the middle because of the 1:11:05.320 --> 1:11:07.679 heat of the barrel. You want it to cool um 1:11:07.840 --> 1:11:09.240 and in the middle of that you'll know a lot 1:11:09.240 --> 1:11:10.720 about your rifle. By the end of the break in, 1:11:11.320 --> 1:11:13.519 do you got to clean that rifle or that barrel 1:11:13.720 --> 1:11:17.120 six or seven times during that session? And when you 1:11:17.120 --> 1:11:20.320 say clean it, you're talking like, so this is the 1:11:20.360 --> 1:11:23.840 other side of your conversation, is that that's also very 1:11:23.920 --> 1:11:27.040 much so up to the shooter. Uh. Some people might 1:11:27.120 --> 1:11:29.960 use hoppies or hops, whichever way you want to say it, 1:11:30.240 --> 1:11:33.800 or two brands. I don't understand. It's just number three. 1:11:33.840 --> 1:11:37.400 So no, is there any arguments you made for the 1:11:37.720 --> 1:11:41.439 it not not being hoppies? I I just hear I 1:11:41.479 --> 1:11:43.720 hear different all the time. There's there's a number of 1:11:43.720 --> 1:11:46.040 board cleaners that work. I think the key is that 1:11:46.120 --> 1:11:47.880 you get it wet, you clean it, and then you 1:11:47.920 --> 1:11:50.000 patch it till it's dry. I'll tell you what, I 1:11:50.000 --> 1:11:51.920 got a bottle of it. Man, It's like it feels 1:11:51.960 --> 1:11:56.920 like like you could get real high off it. What 1:11:57.120 --> 1:12:00.160 the sweet seven point six to You got to be 1:12:00.200 --> 1:12:02.280 careful with that stuff. That stuff is heavy duty. Well 1:12:02.720 --> 1:12:05.519 it's it's like but it's a it's for getting copper out. 1:12:05.520 --> 1:12:10.479 I get yeah, and you can get copper. Another subject 1:12:10.520 --> 1:12:14.920 I bought full on head deal. You know what I'm 1:12:14.960 --> 1:12:20.040 trying to say, respirator, respirator just for cleaning in general. 1:12:20.200 --> 1:12:22.920 I got I got for gun cleaning. I got to 1:12:22.960 --> 1:12:24.679 be like, I don't know, man, you just in there 1:12:24.680 --> 1:12:29.360 and it's you know, really, Stephen Ronnella, that ain't gonna 1:12:29.360 --> 1:12:35.479 be what kills you is respirator. He and Brody just 1:12:35.520 --> 1:12:38.320 got done with the best book ever. He just doesn't 1:12:38.320 --> 1:12:42.519 want to lose any of that good stuff. Yes, Steven Ronell, 1:12:42.600 --> 1:12:45.880 that ain't gonna be what kills you. Roannella, Uh, that'll 1:12:45.920 --> 1:12:48.559 give you a bad headache. That's what I found. I 1:12:48.680 --> 1:12:51.320 found that I felt that, um it was subtle, but 1:12:51.439 --> 1:12:55.639 I felt that my when I'm certain solvents, I felt 1:12:55.800 --> 1:12:59.240 I would I was getting a little like a little buzz. 1:12:59.680 --> 1:13:01.280 No once by the time I muld have been like 1:13:01.560 --> 1:13:05.000 to go out and smell my solvents, but not at 1:13:05.040 --> 1:13:08.000 this At this point in my life, I don't need 1:13:08.040 --> 1:13:09.680 any I mean, maybe I'll have uch a lot of 1:13:10.200 --> 1:13:16.160 but I definitely don't need like chemical buzz. Yeah. So, yeah, 1:13:16.200 --> 1:13:22.200 there's a lot o data in our data. Around round twelve, 1:13:23.400 --> 1:13:27.160 it was consistently when you would start to see um 1:13:27.520 --> 1:13:31.519 improved group flattening out? Yeah, no, kidding. Cool. And when 1:13:31.520 --> 1:13:34.000 you guys are cleaning them, are you cleaning them cleaning 1:13:34.040 --> 1:13:39.120 them bristles and wire brushes? Yeah, But if it's a protocol, 1:13:39.400 --> 1:13:42.920 if if you're suggesting something, we don't don't they have 1:13:43.040 --> 1:13:45.840 a protocol. You were not talking against ms nor engineers. 1:13:46.400 --> 1:13:48.120 They're down in the basement and they have a very 1:13:48.160 --> 1:13:53.760 tight protocol. We don't know that protocol. That protocol, Kett 1:13:54.280 --> 1:13:58.639 saying that phone grew right back, texting just fine over here, 1:14:00.760 --> 1:14:03.640 does your phone recognize the growing back thumb because it 1:14:03.760 --> 1:14:07.320 was before it was before the well, I'll tell you, 1:14:07.400 --> 1:14:10.400 I froze my thumb this winner and and uh my 1:14:10.479 --> 1:14:14.479 phone wouldn't recognize my frozen thumb. Oh no, sometimes this phone, 1:14:14.720 --> 1:14:18.799 depending on yeah, depending on certain times. I've once multiple 1:14:18.840 --> 1:14:21.240 times tried to touch a button, been like, I don't 1:14:21.240 --> 1:14:25.639 know what if you regenerated thumb. This is the regenerated thumb. 1:14:25.680 --> 1:14:45.080 Series calls him by a different name, Dave, are we 1:14:45.120 --> 1:14:47.080 waiting for you to do? I was looking at that. 1:14:47.120 --> 1:14:48.960 I was looking at that. Go go to weather dot 1:14:49.000 --> 1:14:51.439 com and check out the barrel break in person. You're 1:14:51.439 --> 1:14:54.080 also gonna tell about something. So I remember all the 1:14:54.080 --> 1:14:56.280 piggy banks everybody's got laying around, So you got your 1:14:56.280 --> 1:14:59.200 piggy bank to buy the book. Yeah, tell the name 1:14:59.240 --> 1:15:02.800 of the book, Brony the Meat Eater's Guide to Wilderness 1:15:02.800 --> 1:15:06.559 Skills and Survival. No, you got it wrong. We we 1:15:06.560 --> 1:15:11.679 we batted around because listen, it was the Metator Fishing 1:15:11.720 --> 1:15:16.040 Game Cookbook. So we thought there was a minute where 1:15:16.080 --> 1:15:20.000 we're almost going to change tack and call it meat 1:15:20.040 --> 1:15:26.440 Eaters the like Meat Eaters Guide to Wilderness Skills and Survival. 1:15:26.960 --> 1:15:30.720 But then in the end went with the meat Eater 1:15:31.920 --> 1:15:38.080 Guide to Wilderness Skills and Survival have been apostrophe as 1:15:38.240 --> 1:15:45.280 or as apostrophe. Good question. You didn't get apostrophe. And 1:15:45.479 --> 1:15:51.400 my my beloved agent Mark I thought that, um for 1:15:52.200 --> 1:15:55.000 like when people are searching stuff, He said, you don't. 1:15:55.479 --> 1:15:59.519 You don't change stuff like that, man like searchability on books, 1:15:59.560 --> 1:16:02.320 you know, like when people you want everything to be consistent. 1:16:02.400 --> 1:16:09.200 So that's what it is. It's a sweet cover at all. Anyway, 1:16:09.280 --> 1:16:17.080 that's only a small portion of your piggy banks and quarters. Yeah, 1:16:17.160 --> 1:16:19.720 that's a bank. Then you got bank for buying up 1:16:19.760 --> 1:16:25.400 all Cal's ranch land and ponds and whatnot. That tell 1:16:25.479 --> 1:16:29.559 us campaign merchandise where your proceeds go to providing more 1:16:30.200 --> 1:16:33.280 or better hunting and fishing for America, not Cal's private 1:16:33.360 --> 1:16:37.080 land bank. But it is the man which is deeded, damn. 1:16:37.280 --> 1:16:40.799 And they're all just like I never read the contract. 1:16:40.880 --> 1:16:43.080 I don't know. I don't know. Cal just buying all 1:16:43.120 --> 1:16:45.640 this stuff for himself. And what you're gonna need to 1:16:45.760 --> 1:16:49.559 go hunt Col's land if he lets you on is 1:16:52.240 --> 1:16:56.720 our new rifle. That's right now. I could call it 1:16:57.280 --> 1:17:00.600 the meat Eater weather Be you call the weather Be 1:17:00.760 --> 1:17:02.599 meat I'll leave that up to you. What we call 1:17:02.680 --> 1:17:06.320 today when we're filming it is the weather Be Vanguard 1:17:06.840 --> 1:17:11.320 Meat Eater Special Edition. How about the meat Eaters Special Edition. 1:17:12.160 --> 1:17:17.800 Whether you're trying to Steve and giant letters and weather 1:17:17.960 --> 1:17:27.160 vangor we're on top of the world. So the weather 1:17:27.240 --> 1:17:32.600 Being Vanguard Meat Eater Special Edition rifle, which we I 1:17:32.640 --> 1:17:35.720 think we recorded a podcast probably March a last year. 1:17:36.240 --> 1:17:37.880 We start to have a dialogue about it, I think 1:17:37.880 --> 1:17:39.920 a little bit because I'd be like, you know what 1:17:39.920 --> 1:17:42.080 you ought to do? Yeah, you've done that a few 1:17:42.080 --> 1:17:49.240 times now, Steve. We did a little over a year later, 1:17:49.600 --> 1:17:51.760 and I remember we just sat around and kind of said, hey, 1:17:51.800 --> 1:17:53.679 what about if we eat? Since we're partners now and 1:17:53.800 --> 1:17:57.120 you know, uh, you know, doing these things together, let's 1:17:57.120 --> 1:18:00.479 try to do something that's unique, different in, something that 1:18:00.520 --> 1:18:02.559 has a lot of features that are important to you guys. 1:18:03.560 --> 1:18:10.640 And it's coming out later this month, June June. And 1:18:10.720 --> 1:18:13.479 speaking of can we talk about I was talking? Can 1:18:13.479 --> 1:18:15.840 we talk about the place I was talking about earlier? Yea, yeah, 1:18:15.840 --> 1:18:19.040 I mean we're doing Yeah, let's do it in it's 1:18:19.080 --> 1:18:22.479 actually exclusive, first time anybody's ever heard about it. Yes, yes, 1:18:22.520 --> 1:18:25.720 this podcast will be the first we find sports and 1:18:25.760 --> 1:18:29.720 where else. It will be exclusively at Sportsman's Warehouse and 1:18:29.800 --> 1:18:32.120 weatherby dot com. You can buy it directly from weatherby 1:18:32.160 --> 1:18:34.880 dot com if you drove here. Here's my here's my my, 1:18:35.200 --> 1:18:39.040 my promise. Um. I've learned a lot of terms. One 1:18:39.040 --> 1:18:43.439 of the terms I hate is the term value proposition. Okay, 1:18:43.560 --> 1:18:45.360 so I'm not going to use that, but that's what 1:18:45.439 --> 1:18:48.880 you mean, that's what you want to use. Why should 1:18:48.880 --> 1:18:53.040 you buy this thing? Yeah? Like, here's my like a 1:18:53.120 --> 1:18:57.200 value proposition. If you were to make a line, a 1:18:57.360 --> 1:19:03.920 line representing like like, um, quality and a line representing 1:19:04.360 --> 1:19:10.240 um being like, what's the word I'm looking for, economically responsible, 1:19:12.040 --> 1:19:14.559 what's a better term for that? This is where those 1:19:14.600 --> 1:19:18.559 lines like listening to your wife about buying no, like, 1:19:18.840 --> 1:19:24.240 no thing is gonna do this better than that. That's 1:19:24.280 --> 1:19:26.439 what I think we tried to do in this rifle. 1:19:26.479 --> 1:19:32.000 I mean it is another way of saying, is you 1:19:32.000 --> 1:19:35.080 get a little bang for your buck. Yeah, that's that's yeah, 1:19:35.560 --> 1:19:38.400 in terms of bang for your buck for like a 1:19:38.400 --> 1:19:41.720 a thousand dollars. You know, it's not thousand dollars a 1:19:41.800 --> 1:19:51.400 thousand dollar rifle that's like custom rifle features just cool looking, 1:19:52.080 --> 1:19:56.519 good shooting, available in multiple cartridges. It's just that you're 1:19:56.560 --> 1:19:59.000 not gonna like you are, am I allowed to say 1:19:59.040 --> 1:20:02.000 this kind You're not not gonna do better? That's this 1:20:02.080 --> 1:20:04.680 kind of stuff. Yeah, you're right, Yeah, yeah, I think 1:20:04.720 --> 1:20:06.760 it is that it is that value and in that 1:20:06.800 --> 1:20:08.559 sweet spot less than a thousand I mean will be 1:20:08.560 --> 1:20:10.320 on the sportsman's warehouse shelf. You know, you can go 1:20:10.360 --> 1:20:11.920 pick it up. And one of the things I think 1:20:11.960 --> 1:20:13.719 that's really cool about it is it looks real different. 1:20:13.840 --> 1:20:16.360 And I think Steve, that's one thing you guys shared 1:20:16.400 --> 1:20:18.640 with us initially is like, what's something we could do that. 1:20:18.680 --> 1:20:21.559 When you look at that, you go, that's the weather 1:20:21.680 --> 1:20:27.559 be meat eat gun that meets something or other. Uh No, 1:20:27.640 --> 1:20:30.599 but you know that's that meat eater rifle that's there, 1:20:30.640 --> 1:20:33.200 and that's different. And so we uh, this is our 1:20:33.240 --> 1:20:35.679 first production rifle that we've ever done with a spiral 1:20:35.720 --> 1:20:39.880 fluted barrel. We've been fluting barrels probably since the nineties. Uh. 1:20:40.280 --> 1:20:43.320 Actually having it, which you know aids in heat dissipation, 1:20:43.400 --> 1:20:46.240 primarily adds a little bit to the rigidity of the barrel, 1:20:46.760 --> 1:20:48.360 but but really it helps it to cool more because 1:20:48.360 --> 1:20:50.679 it gives it more surface area. But really we say 1:20:50.720 --> 1:20:53.200 all that and that's cool, but people buy fluid barrels 1:20:53.200 --> 1:20:55.519 because they look cool and they look different, and that's 1:20:55.520 --> 1:20:59.920 the number one reason. And then this one has spiral 1:21:00.000 --> 1:21:03.320 old flutes which kind of make it even stand out more. 1:21:03.400 --> 1:21:04.720 And that was something when you guys like, what can 1:21:04.760 --> 1:21:06.599 we do? We haven't done. You can tell you're walking 1:21:06.600 --> 1:21:10.080 down Sportsman's warehouse, Wow, that up to that glass case 1:21:10.120 --> 1:21:14.439 full of pistols and knives, and that you'll be able 1:21:14.439 --> 1:21:16.760 to tell from a long ways away we gotta meat 1:21:16.760 --> 1:21:19.360 eater logoed floor plate on it on the bottom, so 1:21:19.400 --> 1:21:21.479 when it's sitting in the gun rack, you'll be able 1:21:21.520 --> 1:21:24.479 to see the cool meat Eater logo from behind the 1:21:24.520 --> 1:21:26.720 pistol counter as well. And those I think will be 1:21:27.000 --> 1:21:29.320 in the paint job because we did the Seraco with it, 1:21:29.400 --> 1:21:32.760 tried to match Serco to the metalwork with our don't 1:21:32.760 --> 1:21:35.479 go light on Seraco because that's like, because there's nothing 1:21:35.520 --> 1:21:37.280 more depressing. And I've had this hat to me. You 1:21:37.360 --> 1:21:41.200 buy a new rifle and just watching the thing rost man, 1:21:41.600 --> 1:21:43.760 like if you go out, you know, and it's one 1:21:43.800 --> 1:21:45.760 trip to the old fish shack. Yeah, you go to 1:21:45.800 --> 1:21:48.760 the fish shack and just watch your stuff. Ross is depressing. 1:21:49.439 --> 1:21:51.439 It's hard and people, it's like at the end of 1:21:51.439 --> 1:21:53.559 the day when you're back at camp or in your 1:21:53.560 --> 1:21:55.559 tent or in your like, are you thinking, I really 1:21:55.560 --> 1:21:57.479 gotta wipe down every piece of that gun that got 1:21:57.479 --> 1:22:00.800 wet today, Like you're not. And so it is good 1:22:00.840 --> 1:22:03.200 to have the corrosion resistance of the seracode on there. 1:22:03.200 --> 1:22:07.400 So the whole action's got tungsten Saraco finish on all metalwork. Right, 1:22:07.439 --> 1:22:13.040 that's the color of it's dull, which in a lot 1:22:13.040 --> 1:22:15.080 of circles you think, well, doll is not good. But 1:22:15.240 --> 1:22:17.960 Chuck Hawks said that, you know, the high polish what 1:22:18.000 --> 1:22:23.080 do you call high polish? Blue Steve blue blue barrel. 1:22:23.200 --> 1:22:25.600 He's like, you don't know how many animals lives have 1:22:25.720 --> 1:22:30.639 been saved by those pretty rifle barrels. Right, so it's 1:22:30.720 --> 1:22:33.639 nice to have a nice dull Loki. There's no shine 1:22:33.640 --> 1:22:36.880 gonna be coming off that spiral fluting. What was the 1:22:36.960 --> 1:22:39.760 Chuck Hawks Uh? What was the Chuck Hawks quote We 1:22:39.880 --> 1:22:42.639 put into one of the and one of the guide books. 1:22:43.320 --> 1:22:46.280 It was about twenty two. No, we had too because 1:22:46.320 --> 1:22:50.839 he had one quote about his um, his his dislike 1:22:50.960 --> 1:22:52.960 of gun writers. Oh yeah, you know he is a 1:22:53.000 --> 1:22:55.280 gun right, yeah, but I think you chose to put 1:22:55.320 --> 1:22:58.599 in Chuck's Hawks Chuck Hawks quote about gun writers. Yeah, 1:22:59.200 --> 1:23:01.200 that's in there, but also is twenty two his thing 1:23:01.240 --> 1:23:05.240 about like how much he likes in there anyhow? Um. 1:23:05.280 --> 1:23:07.519 And then custom pain job on the stock to match 1:23:07.600 --> 1:23:10.600 that Tungusen serica. We got a really talented paint team 1:23:10.720 --> 1:23:14.680 and shared in Wyoming, and every stock fampainted. It's got 1:23:14.720 --> 1:23:17.479 three ways. It's got three way safety explained, like explained 1:23:17.880 --> 1:23:19.920 you like the three position statemen. Weird. I love it. 1:23:19.920 --> 1:23:23.120 We're hunting Wyoming last year and you remember talking about that. 1:23:23.439 --> 1:23:26.200 I think you like it well. I like it because 1:23:26.400 --> 1:23:31.559 it allows you to open you know, it allows you 1:23:31.600 --> 1:23:34.519 to open your bolt without need to put the gun 1:23:34.520 --> 1:23:37.880 on fire. It seems safe, which for I feel for 1:23:37.880 --> 1:23:40.280 people who just are getting familiar with firearms, it's a 1:23:40.320 --> 1:23:43.720 nice feature. Is to piggyback on that. I think it's 1:23:43.800 --> 1:23:47.040 very nice for the mentor who was next to the 1:23:47.040 --> 1:23:51.479 person who's getting used to firearms to have that visual 1:23:53.000 --> 1:23:55.240 you know, it's it's just another thing like when you're 1:23:55.320 --> 1:23:58.760 next to somebody you're spotting, there's that animal on the 1:23:58.840 --> 1:24:03.080 hillside first and on whatever. Um, it's a very easy 1:24:03.400 --> 1:24:06.679 visual check to see exactly what's going on and sometimes 1:24:06.720 --> 1:24:09.680 what the problem is. Safety still on, he's got to 1:24:09.680 --> 1:24:12.720 go all the way forward. Yeah, that's that's my thing 1:24:12.760 --> 1:24:15.200 with it is. I think with with someone who, you know, 1:24:15.360 --> 1:24:19.240 a more experienced shooter, it's never gonna be a bad 1:24:19.240 --> 1:24:21.680 thing to have it. But a more experienced shooter just 1:24:21.720 --> 1:24:23.400 like much more aware. You know, you're more aware of 1:24:23.479 --> 1:24:28.640 muzzle control, right. But when it with people that, um, 1:24:28.760 --> 1:24:30.640 there's no downside to it. But people who don't have 1:24:30.680 --> 1:24:33.280 that that level familiarity. I think it's just like another thing, 1:24:33.360 --> 1:24:36.240 and it reduces the confusion of when you go to 1:24:36.680 --> 1:24:39.160 open your bolt and then you confuse like do I 1:24:39.160 --> 1:24:43.680 put it on fire to open the bolt? Is that right? 1:24:43.800 --> 1:24:46.160 And you know it just lets you do that. So, 1:24:46.160 --> 1:24:48.519 so our three position safety, all the way back or 1:24:48.600 --> 1:24:51.839 away from the muzzle is on safe, which you cannot 1:24:51.840 --> 1:24:54.800 operate the trigger and you cannot lift the bolt. In 1:24:54.840 --> 1:24:57.720 the middle position, you can open the bolt, but the 1:24:57.720 --> 1:25:01.240 trigger is defeated. And then a third position or all 1:25:01.240 --> 1:25:05.439 the way forward towards the muzzle, guns blazing ready to fire. Yeah, 1:25:05.560 --> 1:25:09.240 straight up in the air is the middle I like, 1:25:09.320 --> 1:25:11.120 I think it's good? Is it? What are the cons? 1:25:11.120 --> 1:25:14.680 I don't know other cons. The only potential con is 1:25:14.960 --> 1:25:16.400 if you're all the way back on safe and you 1:25:16.479 --> 1:25:19.400 only click forward once trigger doesn't go. But it's also 1:25:19.439 --> 1:25:24.320 the benefit to the benefit to that is to teach 1:25:24.360 --> 1:25:27.479 people trigger control, because you see new shooters they'll go 1:25:27.640 --> 1:25:31.479 from safe to the middle position and then they're getting 1:25:31.479 --> 1:25:33.680 ready to shoot, they pull it and then they just 1:25:33.960 --> 1:25:37.040 they wiggle the gun or they jerked so hard and 1:25:37.080 --> 1:25:40.040 you're like, don't do that. You you would know you 1:25:40.040 --> 1:25:42.920 wouldn't hit anything with that. So it's a good training 1:25:42.960 --> 1:25:45.439 tool as well. Yeah, I like it. But I've been 1:25:45.439 --> 1:25:47.360 talking a lot. I have a ten year old and 1:25:47.400 --> 1:25:49.759 he likes to know. He's getting real excited about shooting 1:25:49.800 --> 1:25:52.880 and very infatuated with all kinds of you know, any 1:25:52.960 --> 1:25:56.880 kind of firearm ballistics conversation. Anyways, he's got a break 1:25:56.920 --> 1:26:00.439 open four ten is a good training thing and the 1:26:00.439 --> 1:26:02.400 thing that, like, to Cal's point, but when you look 1:26:02.439 --> 1:26:04.080 at what you see, I like because I can just 1:26:04.080 --> 1:26:07.280 look and I know what's going on, right, I know, 1:26:07.800 --> 1:26:10.519 like open that thing up and it just it just 1:26:10.560 --> 1:26:14.000 takes it takes my stress away. Sure, now that it's 1:26:14.000 --> 1:26:16.000 a parallel, but I mean, you know, it's just like 1:26:16.160 --> 1:26:18.240 when you're with people, I think it's it's something to 1:26:18.240 --> 1:26:20.240 think about and later when they get super familiar and 1:26:20.360 --> 1:26:22.719 then then uh, it's not as big of an issue. 1:26:23.160 --> 1:26:25.320 But at first it's like there's a little bit of 1:26:25.320 --> 1:26:29.840 a redundancy and safety features that. Another thing to bring 1:26:29.920 --> 1:26:33.920 up is the threaded barrel. Oh yeah, another major The 1:26:33.960 --> 1:26:37.640 way I like to pitch this is we've done a 1:26:37.680 --> 1:26:41.559 lot of the customization for you. Yeah, like there's very 1:26:41.560 --> 1:26:46.400 strong uh that very strong things on on this, uh, 1:26:46.720 --> 1:26:53.679 whether be Van Guard, Meata or super addition super that. Uh. 1:26:54.000 --> 1:26:57.120 You know, we've taken the liberty of of making, um, 1:26:57.200 --> 1:27:00.760 what would be customization options for you? Uh? And what 1:27:00.880 --> 1:27:05.120 is the standard package? But you can further customize because 1:27:05.120 --> 1:27:08.200 it's got a threaded barrel with a cap on it. 1:27:09.680 --> 1:27:11.880 That's how you'll get it when you buy it. But 1:27:12.120 --> 1:27:14.680 you can also put a muzzle brake on there if 1:27:14.680 --> 1:27:20.720 you unthread that cap or uh, if you had it 1:27:20.800 --> 1:27:23.600 set up, you could put a can on there, a 1:27:23.640 --> 1:27:26.320 suppressor on there. Um. Yeah, let me tell you what. 1:27:26.400 --> 1:27:32.000 I just had my double deuice two threaded for a suppressor. 1:27:32.040 --> 1:27:34.080 Guess what the gunsmith charging me to thread that two 1:27:34.120 --> 1:27:39.240 for a suppressor? No? Man, it was like I want 1:27:39.240 --> 1:27:43.200 to say it was three hundred bucks. Yeah, I believe it. 1:27:44.120 --> 1:27:46.960 You're like, that's an entire New twenty two. Well I 1:27:47.000 --> 1:27:48.600 just said, like, i'd like to have this done. I 1:27:48.600 --> 1:27:53.280 didn't get into I didn't like ahead of time. Yeah, 1:27:53.360 --> 1:27:56.120 well that's what like. Back to that customization and having 1:27:56.120 --> 1:27:58.639 that on there, and we got that thread cap that's 1:27:58.640 --> 1:28:00.800 flushed too, So we tried to do it where you 1:28:00.840 --> 1:28:04.600 can't hardly see where that line is you know it 1:28:04.640 --> 1:28:07.120 looks clean and then we're actually getting we actually are 1:28:07.200 --> 1:28:10.960 making muzzle breaks for the meat Eater, for the weather 1:28:10.960 --> 1:28:14.400 by Vanguard Mediator Special Editions super rifle. Uh, we are 1:28:14.520 --> 1:28:17.120 making muscle breaks for it. Will be one for the 1:28:17.120 --> 1:28:19.760 twenty four in barrels, one for twenty six in the 1:28:19.800 --> 1:28:22.920 tungsten color, in a little package. They'll be at Sportsman's 1:28:23.000 --> 1:28:25.400 or or on Weathery dot com so you can get one. 1:28:25.479 --> 1:28:27.400 You can get that. I think what is the retail 1:28:27.400 --> 1:28:33.320 on that, look sex seventies sixty or seventy bucks for 1:28:33.360 --> 1:28:34.720 a break. A lot of times you're paying well in 1:28:34.760 --> 1:28:36.479 access a hundred and tried to keep that down too. 1:28:36.560 --> 1:28:38.680 So if you know we do have it in sick 1:28:38.720 --> 1:28:40.320 carts or just some of those, you probably won't need 1:28:40.320 --> 1:28:42.280 a break forward. Some of them you might want one 1:28:42.320 --> 1:28:44.479 for depending and the threat. That's the thing I don't 1:28:44.520 --> 1:28:48.800 understanding about the suppressors is um, oh yeah, it's like 1:28:48.800 --> 1:28:53.760 a universal thread patterns. Yeah, because the one of the 1:28:53.760 --> 1:28:57.920 ones I have, uh, you gotta get, you gotta get 1:28:58.160 --> 1:29:00.320 when you buy your suppress you gotta get a reducer. Yeah. 1:29:01.640 --> 1:29:05.320 One of you guys explained it simply. Yeah, this mediator 1:29:05.600 --> 1:29:09.920 rifle is threaded half twenty eight, which is very common. 1:29:10.600 --> 1:29:13.639 The other common rifle is a five eights twenty four, 1:29:14.200 --> 1:29:17.040 which on the number three contour barrels is more popular. 1:29:17.280 --> 1:29:20.200 Larger barrel, it's larger, but if you take a number 1:29:20.240 --> 1:29:22.000 three all the way down to a half twenty eight, 1:29:22.000 --> 1:29:24.880 you're removing so much barrel it's unnecessary. So that's probably 1:29:24.880 --> 1:29:29.120 where you had a well, this thing, my my thing, 1:29:29.280 --> 1:29:33.599 My suppressor came with a mountain of reducers, and then 1:29:33.640 --> 1:29:35.800 I was just confused by that whole thing. Yeah. Actually, 1:29:35.840 --> 1:29:39.720 we just recently standardized to a half eight m on 1:29:39.760 --> 1:29:42.320 this like kind of this is more of a hunting 1:29:42.360 --> 1:29:44.720 it's a number two contour, so it's it's not a 1:29:44.760 --> 1:29:46.519 big old barrel because we wanted the way of the 1:29:46.600 --> 1:29:48.880 rifle to be. You know, you can go down and 1:29:49.040 --> 1:29:50.640 because cal you were just shooting. You just shut a 1:29:50.640 --> 1:29:52.920 couple hundred rounds or something, didn't you out of one 1:29:52.960 --> 1:29:57.240 and competition or something or yeah? Yeah, and yeah, I 1:29:57.240 --> 1:29:59.800 was gonna say, yeah, you went to a shooting tournament, Yeah, 1:30:00.040 --> 1:30:07.200 the sniper challenge. Nope. Uh. You know, you know, learn 1:30:07.240 --> 1:30:11.120 a lot when you go out there. The shooting competitions 1:30:11.120 --> 1:30:17.160 I've done up. Like I'm just trying very consciously keep 1:30:17.320 --> 1:30:22.040 things in a hunting perspective because that's my goal is 1:30:22.520 --> 1:30:28.160 is to come away with good practical hunting practice. Um, 1:30:28.240 --> 1:30:32.160 and you know, you're when you're shooting around, uh, these 1:30:32.280 --> 1:30:34.720 people where this is really some of them it's their 1:30:34.840 --> 1:30:37.240 job to shoot, and some of them that is that 1:30:37.360 --> 1:30:42.080 is their sport, is shooting competitions. Um, you're seeing stuff 1:30:42.120 --> 1:30:45.200 that is not anything that you would see on a 1:30:45.240 --> 1:30:50.320 mountain anywhere. Yeah. I mean they're twenty pound rifles out 1:30:50.320 --> 1:30:52.200 there probably. Yeah, I mean there's there's a lot of 1:30:52.840 --> 1:30:56.840 yeah yeah, Um. And you know, and they're built specifically 1:30:56.880 --> 1:31:00.200 to shoot targets. It's nice about those things all. Uh, 1:31:01.400 --> 1:31:03.800 those super heavy rigged up guns. When you touch them off, 1:31:03.800 --> 1:31:06.479 the thing doesn't even move. Yes, And there's like watching 1:31:06.479 --> 1:31:08.639 like looking through the scope was like watching TV Man, 1:31:09.040 --> 1:31:12.759 but you shoot like nothing happens, just everything just stays 1:31:12.800 --> 1:31:15.120 like perfectly fine through that scope. One of the guys 1:31:15.120 --> 1:31:17.960 that we were shooting in a group with, he's like, man, 1:31:18.080 --> 1:31:27.000 you have got to get uh uh uh not a suppressor, 1:31:27.520 --> 1:31:30.200 the other thing muzzle break. And I was like, man, 1:31:30.240 --> 1:31:31.840 it's a six and a half creed more. I don't. 1:31:31.880 --> 1:31:35.000 I don't need a muzzle break, he said, Nope, He's like, 1:31:35.040 --> 1:31:39.519 the muzzle brake is so you can stay on target. 1:31:39.920 --> 1:31:42.720 It's a big deal for them and watch your impacts 1:31:42.760 --> 1:31:45.360 through your scope. Yes, you don't got to shoot at 1:31:45.400 --> 1:31:49.560 some antelope off the distance, Like did I get it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:31:50.040 --> 1:31:53.000 which I was like, okay, yes that makes some sense. 1:31:53.040 --> 1:31:57.519 But um, you know, the whole reason I have never 1:31:57.960 --> 1:32:01.920 shot with one is because I I don't like dirt 1:32:02.000 --> 1:32:05.400 and stuff getting in there in the fields and stuff. Uh. 1:32:05.720 --> 1:32:10.680 We've shied away from filming because you can kind of 1:32:10.800 --> 1:32:14.439 ring the bell of whoever if someone's you know, lying 1:32:14.479 --> 1:32:18.519 out next to you. And so I've even had guys 1:32:18.560 --> 1:32:22.200 get um, semi hostile let shooting at the range. People 1:32:22.240 --> 1:32:23.360 don't want to be next to the guy with the 1:32:23.400 --> 1:32:25.960 muzzle break. And then I don't know if it's really yeah, 1:32:25.960 --> 1:32:28.360 I guess it's It matters like for for filming where 1:32:28.360 --> 1:32:30.720 you kind of have people who might be off to 1:32:30.720 --> 1:32:33.360 your side and stuff. It just seemed like it definitely 1:32:33.400 --> 1:32:35.720 hurts the person next to you more than what it 1:32:35.800 --> 1:32:38.800 also does though, is it helps if somebody does have 1:32:38.840 --> 1:32:41.000 a problem with flinching especially if you have a larger 1:32:41.240 --> 1:32:44.479 you know, caliber or whatever. By having it, if you're 1:32:44.520 --> 1:32:47.519 wearing hearing protection it sometimes you can get rid of 1:32:47.520 --> 1:32:49.200 a flinch more if you I think if you give 1:32:49.400 --> 1:32:51.360 a little too much requal a larger cartridge to be 1:32:51.360 --> 1:32:54.080 either a newer shooter or maybe a child or something 1:32:54.120 --> 1:32:55.920 like that, they can develop a flinch because you're like, 1:32:55.960 --> 1:32:57.800 just suck it up and shoot it, and they can 1:32:57.840 --> 1:32:59.759 develop some pretty bad flinches. So I think the muzzle 1:32:59.760 --> 1:33:01.880 breaks sometimes it's helpful to give somebody something that's a 1:33:01.920 --> 1:33:05.880 little tamer. But the hearing thing is definitely so one 1:33:05.960 --> 1:33:11.800 thing on the breaking process. So the weather be Van 1:33:11.840 --> 1:33:16.880 Guard Meat Eater super Special edition, um what it was 1:33:16.960 --> 1:33:20.120 brand new. We went out to start getting prepared for 1:33:20.520 --> 1:33:28.599 the sniper challenge and Seth, well Seth Seth shot for 1:33:28.640 --> 1:33:30.840 me so I could go to Mayne and check out 1:33:30.920 --> 1:33:34.680 that property on Sunday. Yeah. So he actually shot a 1:33:34.760 --> 1:33:37.000 hundred and some rounds. I shot a hundred and some 1:33:37.240 --> 1:33:45.080 round at the challenge. I don't know, probably about we 1:33:45.080 --> 1:33:50.280 were pretty even, um but he I think Seth said 1:33:50.320 --> 1:33:57.479 he rang a target at eleven. Yeah. But so during 1:33:57.520 --> 1:34:01.519 the break in process, I actually broke it. In with 1:34:01.880 --> 1:34:06.760 the trophy copper, federal trophy copper. I was like, oh, 1:34:06.840 --> 1:34:10.320 that's uh, you know, a minute group. I was like, 1:34:10.400 --> 1:34:15.240 that's you know, good group. And then uh proceeded to 1:34:15.880 --> 1:34:20.160 shoot a bunch of steel and was very impressed. And 1:34:20.200 --> 1:34:22.960 this was like taking a lot of time to shoot 1:34:23.280 --> 1:34:27.000 steal um, making sure everything was right. But where were 1:34:27.000 --> 1:34:30.920 you doing all this out at the you'll see it tomorrow, 1:34:31.080 --> 1:34:34.040 I think, but out at a friend's range that he 1:34:34.160 --> 1:34:37.160 let us see and their steel everywhere, people going doing 1:34:37.160 --> 1:34:41.559 stuff that I didn't get invited. Yeah, all the time 1:34:41.600 --> 1:34:46.720 man people, Oh yeah, we're all drinking, so I know 1:34:46.760 --> 1:34:51.080 I wouldn't go. But very impressed with the rifle. And 1:34:51.120 --> 1:34:56.920 then um, you do finally got her target loads so 1:34:56.960 --> 1:35:00.439 we didn't have to shoot up all the trophy copper. Um. 1:35:00.479 --> 1:35:03.160 I felt like the target loads weren't flying quite as 1:35:03.160 --> 1:35:04.920 good out of the gun, and I cleaned it in 1:35:05.000 --> 1:35:07.479 between these so kind of had like an almost a 1:35:07.479 --> 1:35:13.000 new breaking process with the with the target load. Um. 1:35:13.120 --> 1:35:17.280 And then did you know, shot two hundred plus rounds 1:35:17.320 --> 1:35:22.240 out of that rifle just at the match. Geez, got 1:35:22.240 --> 1:35:26.679 it clean the you know, a little due diligence cleaning 1:35:26.720 --> 1:35:30.599 on it and then shot at today and went back 1:35:30.640 --> 1:35:35.200 to Trophy Copper. And that three shot group with the 1:35:35.200 --> 1:35:39.200 Trophy Copper was I think a lot of those twenty 1:35:39.240 --> 1:35:45.560 pound rifles out of that match you'd be very pleased with. Yeah, 1:35:46.040 --> 1:35:48.720 it was tight. Yeah, it was about a half inch 1:35:48.720 --> 1:35:50.360 a little over his group. And the funny thing was 1:35:50.400 --> 1:35:53.160 though the first one he it'll turn it on top 1:35:53.160 --> 1:35:58.439 and kind of forgot he'd been shooting. So he goes 1:35:58.479 --> 1:36:00.120 down to the target today at a hundred yard to 1:36:00.200 --> 1:36:03.240 them all, dude, you hit dirt like feet above that target. 1:36:03.240 --> 1:36:05.559 I've been the spotting scope and he just goes through 1:36:05.680 --> 1:36:08.559 and he's just spinning that turret like a top and 1:36:08.600 --> 1:36:16.720 then it's sure enough, just drills the balls. Yeah, No, 1:36:16.840 --> 1:36:19.120 it's a good it's a great rifle. Me. How much 1:36:19.200 --> 1:36:23.799 they weigh like short action short action six point three eight? Oh, 1:36:24.479 --> 1:36:27.080 just make that up right now, not super light, not 1:36:27.200 --> 1:36:29.400 super heavy. Great and the magnum, the magnum will be 1:36:29.439 --> 1:36:32.880 seven point three eight. What are the there's six cartridges 1:36:33.439 --> 1:36:40.760 six five creed More six hundred, Weatherby three, Weatherby seven, 1:36:40.800 --> 1:36:45.360 weather B and seven and a seven milli seven. Yeah, 1:36:45.439 --> 1:36:49.080 and this something we worked. Yeah, the old thirty old 1:36:49.120 --> 1:36:53.200 six that make the cut. No, no, no, but we 1:36:54.280 --> 1:36:56.000 we did talk to you guys. You know, I know 1:36:56.200 --> 1:36:57.760 that you know, you guys are a big part of that. 1:36:59.120 --> 1:37:02.440 I just wanted to rub it in and its Sportsman's 1:37:02.439 --> 1:37:04.360 warehouse a little bit. You know, is because you know 1:37:04.600 --> 1:37:07.680 they have you know, hundred five stores and know their 1:37:07.760 --> 1:37:09.720 customers and in their areas and you know know what 1:37:09.800 --> 1:37:11.640 they like too. So I think between the three, you know, 1:37:11.720 --> 1:37:13.879 we were able to pick up on those six cartridges. 1:37:13.920 --> 1:37:16.880 So it gives you a variety stuff short action long. 1:37:17.800 --> 1:37:20.840 The real quick back to the break is there like 1:37:20.920 --> 1:37:25.360 an average percentage of reduced recoil and you throw it 1:37:25.400 --> 1:37:29.720 when you put a brake on. It's no way, it's 1:37:30.400 --> 1:37:33.880 it's very difficult to measure because it's it's a perception 1:37:34.439 --> 1:37:38.880 and it's also count related. Wouldn't be that you put 1:37:38.920 --> 1:37:41.360 it against something that measures force and just do it 1:37:41.479 --> 1:37:48.120 or not? Let us talk to your engineerings get some pillars. 1:37:48.240 --> 1:37:50.720 People do, but there's variations on how people you know, 1:37:50.840 --> 1:37:53.479 even measure that. So well, I know that there's like 1:37:53.680 --> 1:37:57.479 a significant I mean there's a significant recoil redaction with those. Yeah, 1:37:57.520 --> 1:38:00.559 I know that different things recoil different way is for sure, 1:38:00.680 --> 1:38:04.080 like I had a um, what's the queens of the 1:38:04.120 --> 1:38:12.000 planes rifles? Yet that recoil is tremendous, but spread out 1:38:12.080 --> 1:38:15.280 over such a long period of time. It's kind of 1:38:15.320 --> 1:38:21.880 like it's like a five minute long like then a 1:38:22.120 --> 1:38:25.479 seven millimeter around mags like smack, And it's like the 1:38:25.720 --> 1:38:30.439 fastest to the jaw man bullet, wait to seventy five 1:38:30.479 --> 1:38:32.840 shooting a heavier bullet, so it's more of a push 1:38:32.880 --> 1:38:38.360 against your shoulder. Yeah, it's under the giant like giving 1:38:38.400 --> 1:38:41.519 you a slow punch. It's very similar to three or weather. 1:38:41.560 --> 1:38:43.760 Be truthfully, three or weather people think, oh god, it's 1:38:43.760 --> 1:38:45.880 gonna be horrible. It's it's It doesn't really bother me. 1:38:46.680 --> 1:38:49.760 I don't like the real poppy jaw busting ones that 1:38:49.840 --> 1:38:51.880 give you a headache. Yes, and those will more than 1:38:51.960 --> 1:38:56.639 likely be lighter grain bullets shooting fast because they're snappy, 1:38:57.200 --> 1:38:59.320 Like what's what's in your opinion, what's the what's the 1:38:59.360 --> 1:39:07.639 worst free willing around? Oh no, actually and a small 1:39:07.760 --> 1:39:10.479 gun in a lightweight gun jumped out of your hands 1:39:10.520 --> 1:39:14.320 and do flips right gun. But I've also there's the 1:39:14.360 --> 1:39:16.840 three seventy eight weather be mag like our big old 1:39:16.880 --> 1:39:19.960 cartrires like African safari stuff, and that's the smack and 1:39:20.120 --> 1:39:22.479 the wallup and Andre the giant like all mixed into. 1:39:24.120 --> 1:39:27.280 I mean, I've shot I've shot a four sixty weather 1:39:27.360 --> 1:39:30.240 be mag with the five green bullet without a break 1:39:31.200 --> 1:39:34.559 once and it gives you just gotta do it. Actually, 1:39:35.080 --> 1:39:36.920 you guys should just you guys should just do it. 1:39:37.000 --> 1:39:39.719 You just it's fun. Next time you guys are down, Definitely, 1:39:39.840 --> 1:39:42.679 you gotta shoot it once. Just it is so much force. 1:39:42.960 --> 1:39:44.719 You know what I shot one time, I can't remember. 1:39:45.120 --> 1:39:46.960 It was one of those those like it was like sharps, 1:39:47.120 --> 1:39:51.720 like a replix sharps, so like they're not seventies when 1:39:51.760 --> 1:39:56.720 are they like a four sixteen Rigby or either way. 1:39:56.800 --> 1:39:59.360 I was in California. We're shooting this thing, okay, and 1:39:59.400 --> 1:40:01.840 it had one of the all those quickly down under 1:40:02.360 --> 1:40:07.400 sits should have been I'm not kidding. Yeah, he said that. 1:40:07.560 --> 1:40:08.960 He was like, oh, yeah, you can see the bullet. 1:40:09.000 --> 1:40:11.360 I'm like, you can't see the bullet. You can see 1:40:11.640 --> 1:40:15.200 the bullet definitely if you're shooting out. He had a 1:40:15.240 --> 1:40:16.920 target like a couple hundred yards out and it's like 1:40:16.920 --> 1:40:18.600 there's no way. We were talking about you look like 1:40:18.880 --> 1:40:20.640 you catch a glimpse. It seemed like it was like 1:40:20.840 --> 1:40:23.200 halfway there and you catch a glimpse of the slug 1:40:23.280 --> 1:40:27.160 going through the air. Trying to pride ourselves. You can't 1:40:27.160 --> 1:40:33.200 see our bullets, definitely can your billboard out there and 1:40:33.320 --> 1:40:38.400 shared and you can't see our bullets. Rio, Seve can't see. 1:40:40.360 --> 1:40:42.320 We're excited about the project though. With you guys, it's 1:40:42.360 --> 1:40:44.600 been it's been a fun collaboration. And I hope you 1:40:44.640 --> 1:40:46.960 know you're listeners watch or whatever you call the people 1:40:46.960 --> 1:40:49.200 that are out there and the meat eater world is 1:40:49.560 --> 1:40:52.640 nad Yeah, all the knuckleheads listening. I think it's uh. 1:40:53.200 --> 1:40:55.439 I think, to be honest, I think it's there's gonna 1:40:55.439 --> 1:40:57.720 be some experience shooters nunners. They're like, Wow, this is 1:40:57.760 --> 1:40:59.160 a rifle that I really want to own. But I 1:40:59.200 --> 1:41:01.599 think it's also so then you could step into as 1:41:01.640 --> 1:41:03.680 more of a new or novice hunter into So I 1:41:03.760 --> 1:41:06.760 think it really I don't know. I think hopefully, you know, 1:41:06.840 --> 1:41:08.840 kind of captures the vast part of the audience in 1:41:08.920 --> 1:41:11.040 that sense. Oh yeah, we get so many emails, people 1:41:11.160 --> 1:41:13.840 like lots of emails, and it's like a daily thing. 1:41:14.080 --> 1:41:18.880 Is people kind of trying to dig through the all 1:41:18.960 --> 1:41:22.240 the rigmarole in language right there, like I want to 1:41:22.280 --> 1:41:24.240 get right ball away shot, hand me downs, go by, 1:41:24.400 --> 1:41:26.760 what should I get? Blah blah blah. It doesn't make sense. 1:41:26.840 --> 1:41:31.280 I get overwhelmed. And now I'd be like that, yeah, yeah, 1:41:31.520 --> 1:41:34.519 all ready for you. Yeah. And like Adam said, sports 1:41:34.640 --> 1:41:36.960 is Warehouse has it, but also weather we dot com. 1:41:37.240 --> 1:41:39.479 And just to review that process real quick, is that 1:41:39.560 --> 1:41:40.840 if you were to go to weather be dot com 1:41:40.920 --> 1:41:42.760 and select a rifle in the cartridge that you want, 1:41:43.520 --> 1:41:45.840 you would then select an FFL that we would ship 1:41:45.920 --> 1:41:47.840 that rifle to. A lot of people don't realize we 1:41:47.840 --> 1:41:50.560 don't ship a rifle directly to your door. Can We 1:41:50.640 --> 1:41:53.000 cannot do that, So you have to select an FFL 1:41:53.240 --> 1:41:55.840 in your I don't actually care where it is, but 1:41:56.000 --> 1:41:58.800 p prefarably in your city. You would select that off 1:41:58.840 --> 1:42:00.880 of our website. We would then ship that rifle to 1:42:01.040 --> 1:42:03.760 that FFL, in which then you would go in and 1:42:03.920 --> 1:42:10.480 complete the appropriate checks like thirty bucks right to do it, California, 1:42:14.560 --> 1:42:16.519 and the sportsman is gonna be stocking them heavy, So 1:42:16.560 --> 1:42:18.680 it's a great opportunity to get in there, you know. 1:42:18.760 --> 1:42:20.960 Shoulder and asked the guys behind the counter. We're gonna 1:42:20.960 --> 1:42:22.760 be working on training with them, and so I think 1:42:22.800 --> 1:42:24.519 you know, they're gonna have some associates. They're gonna be 1:42:24.800 --> 1:42:26.439 excited about that. Again. I think it's gonna, you know, 1:42:26.560 --> 1:42:30.920 pop off that shelf. You know too. Hit a point 1:42:30.960 --> 1:42:33.080 that Kevin was making just so people understand, because I 1:42:33.080 --> 1:42:35.960 don't like the lingo of the FFL. So it's like federal, No, 1:42:36.360 --> 1:42:37.760 you don't need a great job. I feel like some 1:42:37.760 --> 1:42:39.400 people don't know where Tom Abo does you think all 1:42:39.439 --> 1:42:44.639 the federal firearm licensee. So what happens is, um, there's 1:42:44.680 --> 1:42:48.679 there's a questionnaire and when you go to a firearm transfer, 1:42:48.720 --> 1:42:50.559 you go down and fill out a very simple questionnaire 1:42:50.560 --> 1:42:55.080 and it covers like, um, if you have felony, felony 1:42:56.240 --> 1:42:59.800 like any kind of restraining orders, dishonorable discharge, are you 1:43:00.320 --> 1:43:03.240 there's some recreational drugs, there's some kind of there's some 1:43:03.360 --> 1:43:05.400 kind of question around I don't know how it's phrase, 1:43:05.479 --> 1:43:09.840 but something citizenship. Have you ever renounced your US citizenship 1:43:09.920 --> 1:43:11.680 or something like that. And you can't just go down 1:43:11.720 --> 1:43:13.240 the whole thing, go no no, no, no, no, no no, 1:43:13.400 --> 1:43:15.320 because they'll get you in the end. Yeah, the last 1:43:15.439 --> 1:43:19.840 question is different. Remember no, no, no, no, no, of 1:43:19.920 --> 1:43:22.320 course not and the and then that's all. That's what 1:43:22.360 --> 1:43:24.439 it asked. Like when people say, like going to my 1:43:24.600 --> 1:43:26.680 FFL or doing to the FFL, that's what it is. 1:43:26.680 --> 1:43:28.519 You go down and give me driver's license, You fill 1:43:28.560 --> 1:43:30.560 out this thing, they check, make sure you're cool, and 1:43:30.720 --> 1:43:34.760 in most cases most places, you you walk out. Most 1:43:34.800 --> 1:43:37.760 places some some states do have a weight period, but 1:43:37.960 --> 1:43:40.640 most do not. So we'll take a little bit of 1:43:40.680 --> 1:43:43.040 time for them to run the check. So sometimes it 1:43:43.080 --> 1:43:44.679 will take a couple of minutes, I'll say, walk around 1:43:44.680 --> 1:43:47.439 the store, and but like literally a couple of minutes. Yeah, 1:43:48.560 --> 1:43:52.120 it's a the old phone end days are long gone, 1:43:52.160 --> 1:43:56.160 and said Nick's National Instant Criminal Check System something like that. 1:43:56.560 --> 1:43:58.839 And it's pretty fast. If you've got a real generic 1:43:58.960 --> 1:44:01.240 last named Smith or Jones, it could take longer, but 1:44:02.000 --> 1:44:03.960 for most people's But I did hear during the height 1:44:04.040 --> 1:44:07.000 of the COVID buying that they were a couple of hours. 1:44:07.080 --> 1:44:12.880 They happen, especially the store is really busy and you've 1:44:12.880 --> 1:44:14.280 got a bunch of people with the gun counter, it 1:44:14.400 --> 1:44:16.880 might it might take some time. But while you're down 1:44:16.920 --> 1:44:20.400 there too at the store, I mean, usually you need accessories, 1:44:20.840 --> 1:44:23.559 whether that Biammo scopes, mounts, all that kind of stuff too. 1:44:23.680 --> 1:44:25.760 So it gets you, you know, get you in there 1:44:25.800 --> 1:44:28.679 to see what else you're gonna need to go along 1:44:28.720 --> 1:44:30.639 with it. So there's one thing I want to comment 1:44:30.680 --> 1:44:32.920 on the rifle. If I can't, and then well, I 1:44:33.040 --> 1:44:36.040 think and and it depends on you know, listeners where 1:44:36.040 --> 1:44:38.120 they're at, and they're kind of technical knowledge of firems 1:44:38.160 --> 1:44:41.519 and things. But like I said earlier, probably accuracy is 1:44:41.560 --> 1:44:43.759 depending upon a number of different things, and the barrel 1:44:44.120 --> 1:44:46.240 I believe being key to that. And one of the 1:44:46.320 --> 1:44:48.360 things that Vanguard has and I think for that value 1:44:48.439 --> 1:44:50.880 is it's there you hear different ways of barrels are made, 1:44:50.880 --> 1:44:52.880 and that's probably other things thrown out and then everybody's like, 1:44:52.920 --> 1:44:55.120 what's all. I mean button rifle and the cut barrel 1:44:55.160 --> 1:44:58.160 and the Vanguard rifles are hammered forged, and really what 1:44:58.280 --> 1:45:00.240 it is. It's talking about how the rifle ing is 1:45:00.280 --> 1:45:01.960 put in the barrel, because the first you just drill 1:45:02.000 --> 1:45:03.920 a hole, right, but you've got to actually get that 1:45:04.200 --> 1:45:07.439 rate of twist that's in there. The actual rifling and 1:45:08.520 --> 1:45:11.120 hammer forging and barrels has has been kind of for 1:45:11.200 --> 1:45:13.160 a long time known as one of the one of 1:45:13.200 --> 1:45:15.760 the premier ways to actually do a barrel. Uh, and 1:45:15.880 --> 1:45:19.160 that it's it's actually you know, literally pressed that it's 1:45:19.360 --> 1:45:21.960 it's you know, there's a huge trying to put it in. 1:45:22.920 --> 1:45:27.400 Uh it is and it just goes E is doing 1:45:27.439 --> 1:45:30.920 this and it's actually then taking and putting the rifling 1:45:31.040 --> 1:45:33.680 in there and doing so in a way that minimizes 1:45:33.760 --> 1:45:36.360 the stress to the barrel. Uh, so that it can 1:45:36.479 --> 1:45:40.400 maintain its concentricity said a word, Uh, you know, being 1:45:40.479 --> 1:45:43.320 concentric and all those things. So anyways, just the way 1:45:43.360 --> 1:45:46.160 that the barrel has done Sammer forged. There's different ways 1:45:46.200 --> 1:45:48.719 to do barrels, but we found that the Vanguard barrels 1:45:49.200 --> 1:45:51.560 um are an excellent barrel, lasts a long time, but 1:45:51.760 --> 1:45:55.080 is very very concentric um as well, and that's one 1:45:55.120 --> 1:45:56.880 of the things that provides that accuracy. So you know, 1:45:57.040 --> 1:45:59.080 you look more, you get into certain things, you find 1:45:59.160 --> 1:46:01.680 something out. And one of the things that Van Guard 1:46:01.680 --> 1:46:03.760 barrel has been known for for decades is that they 1:46:03.840 --> 1:46:07.120 have really good hammerforge barrels. So something else to kind 1:46:07.120 --> 1:46:09.120 of throw in there if anybody geeks out on that stuff, 1:46:09.560 --> 1:46:12.040 if I like it, well, yeah, y'all. He likes that 1:46:12.120 --> 1:46:19.040 kind of stuff. Yeah, well knows wall someday I want 1:46:19.080 --> 1:46:21.280 to add up all Yanni's nicknames. Man, do you have 1:46:21.680 --> 1:46:26.200 a little inside joke, it's like the nickname. Yeah, he's 1:46:26.200 --> 1:46:30.400 got a lot of Well because Queen Man's was a 1:46:30.439 --> 1:46:31.800 good friend of mine. That's why I think is cool. 1:46:36.400 --> 1:46:40.200 We started with bird list for our yard. Um, we're 1:46:40.200 --> 1:46:44.120 at six. Not bad, nice, it's great. I feel you're 1:46:44.160 --> 1:46:46.639 you guys, your family blow my family away. Yeah, we've 1:46:46.640 --> 1:46:49.120 started one too, but we've fallen off, so I don't 1:46:49.120 --> 1:46:50.720 think we've made it past. I feel like you'll you'll 1:46:50.760 --> 1:46:53.200 blow past me very quickly. I haven't seen any humming 1:46:53.200 --> 1:46:56.360 berris yet. Them we got one, I can't. I think 1:46:56.600 --> 1:46:58.680 I can't tell if it's broad tailed or Calliope, though 1:46:59.280 --> 1:47:02.200 it's a little problem. ICES call them all hummingbirds. Then 1:47:02.240 --> 1:47:05.760 I found out that that doesn't work. No lots kind 1:47:05.760 --> 1:47:11.000 of hunting hummingbirds running around. Uh, Phil lassing, Um, you're 1:47:11.040 --> 1:47:13.040 you're you're gonna close with So we got the song 1:47:13.040 --> 1:47:16.440 about Yanni already played. I was disappointed here there's no accompaniment? 1:47:16.600 --> 1:47:22.240 Can I in first? Oh? Yeah, of course, you know 1:47:22.360 --> 1:47:24.639 it's about your bigger bank. You need one more thing 1:47:26.040 --> 1:47:30.479 because after you get your super badass, whether it be 1:47:30.960 --> 1:47:33.560 meatia rifle, you're gonna need something to cut up the 1:47:33.680 --> 1:47:38.880 meat with your get again, to get the meat craft knife, 1:47:38.920 --> 1:47:45.519 to cover your new stuff. Will your barrel down that 1:47:45.760 --> 1:47:49.920 level of steel? Don't do that, don't take you. Don't 1:47:49.960 --> 1:47:52.360 touch your knife to your barrel. Yeah. No, we've been 1:47:52.400 --> 1:47:54.080 doing something. We've been doing some fun stuff. Man, that's 1:47:54.080 --> 1:47:56.479 little stuff we haven't done. We've never really engaged in it. 1:47:56.560 --> 1:47:58.639 I always always curious about just kind of like waiting 1:47:58.680 --> 1:48:01.479 for the right, you know, the right sort of Well, 1:48:01.479 --> 1:48:03.640 you're passionate about quality products. I mean, that's what like 1:48:03.760 --> 1:48:05.439 you even when we go around hunting, you're like, you 1:48:05.520 --> 1:48:07.480 know what you guys should make and like that's impossible 1:48:07.840 --> 1:48:10.479 but half a brain. Yeah, no kidding, Yeah, and if 1:48:10.479 --> 1:48:12.200 you know how to make stuff, Steve, but you know, 1:48:12.640 --> 1:48:14.759 but it's cool because you guys are passionate about stuff. 1:48:14.760 --> 1:48:15.960 I think it just came out in this new knife. 1:48:16.000 --> 1:48:17.640 You guys did a bench made and I hope that 1:48:17.760 --> 1:48:19.400 you know, people feel came out in the rifle too, 1:48:19.600 --> 1:48:22.760 that that you guys, Um, Yeah, I think your creativity 1:48:23.000 --> 1:48:24.640 and really kind of knowing you just do a lot 1:48:24.640 --> 1:48:28.600 of hunting from lots of folks. It's been fun to 1:48:28.600 --> 1:48:31.519 get involved in it. Uh. Then we all, you know, 1:48:31.640 --> 1:48:35.200 feel free and Bill's got a hot hot concluder. I'll 1:48:35.200 --> 1:48:37.439 just stay with the rifle one more time. I think 1:48:37.479 --> 1:48:42.040 it's we are we all here in this room put 1:48:42.120 --> 1:48:48.439 together a very quality product. UM. As far as what 1:48:48.760 --> 1:48:51.240 is out there on the market, there's a lot of 1:48:52.120 --> 1:48:55.160 kind of upgrades, like if you if you went to 1:48:55.720 --> 1:49:00.160 a lower price point rifle, a cheaper rifle, if you will. UM. 1:49:00.200 --> 1:49:04.479 There's a lot of things that we feel eventually enough 1:49:04.560 --> 1:49:05.960 time on the ground, you'd be like, oh, you know 1:49:06.080 --> 1:49:10.160 what would be nice is this? Or you know, boy, 1:49:10.200 --> 1:49:14.439 I kind of like that on that And that's what 1:49:14.560 --> 1:49:17.559 kind of gets you working up a little bit into 1:49:17.640 --> 1:49:21.760 some different kind of quote custom things. And that's kind 1:49:21.800 --> 1:49:25.680 of what this package is UM. And you know, it's 1:49:25.720 --> 1:49:34.160 still it's under a thousand bucks um weatherby dot Com UM, 1:49:34.560 --> 1:49:36.960 which is still a chunk of change. But the good 1:49:37.040 --> 1:49:40.400 thing is is you're not going to have that feeling 1:49:40.520 --> 1:49:43.840 of like, oh man, I wish this one had this 1:49:44.280 --> 1:49:47.559 or this one that had this. Uh, And it's something 1:49:48.360 --> 1:49:52.320 that just never goes away like you are eventually gonna 1:49:52.360 --> 1:49:55.920 be like, ah, I've had such a long life and 1:49:56.080 --> 1:50:00.320 hunted so long and I need to give this thing away. Uh, 1:50:00.400 --> 1:50:03.439 and you'll you'll be able to then hand down a 1:50:03.640 --> 1:50:08.800 very high quality shooting iron. Yeah. It's like you know, 1:50:08.960 --> 1:50:13.200 you can go when you touch it and worked the 1:50:13.880 --> 1:50:16.080 work the action on it, like work the bolt down stuff. 1:50:16.120 --> 1:50:18.320 It's like it's like a you know, it's a quality gun. 1:50:18.720 --> 1:50:22.800 It's a quality gun. You're like that, She's about the 1:50:22.840 --> 1:50:27.439 good one. I think what's hard in audio podcast is 1:50:27.560 --> 1:50:30.160 we've tried to describe, like the fluted barrel, it looks 1:50:30.200 --> 1:50:32.479 really good. We really didn't touch on how good the 1:50:32.560 --> 1:50:35.760 stock looks. The stock itself hand painted. It's a black 1:50:35.880 --> 1:50:38.519 base with kind of like a gray and a tan. 1:50:39.240 --> 1:50:42.000 It looks incredible. So you gotta go check it out, 1:50:42.680 --> 1:50:47.880 whether it be or Sports and Sports dot Com. Um 1:50:48.840 --> 1:50:54.120 last thing, our good friend Doug Durn, the beautiful, lovely 1:50:54.160 --> 1:50:56.720 Doug Durn. We're gonna he wrote a song, what we're 1:50:56.760 --> 1:50:59.400 doing Our our whole live tour got postponed. Everybody had 1:50:59.400 --> 1:51:02.720 tickets to go to the shows, knows this. Um the 1:51:02.800 --> 1:51:04.800 Dog was gonna do some of the live shows with us, 1:51:04.800 --> 1:51:08.040 and he wrote the song he wrote he wrote a 1:51:08.080 --> 1:51:13.080 song about the podcast. Uh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah people. Yeah, 1:51:13.120 --> 1:51:15.160 people were just stuck it in there and people noticed. 1:51:16.040 --> 1:51:19.400 So yeah, it's and people are like I saw on Instagram, 1:51:19.439 --> 1:51:21.920 I think it was people were debating whether or not 1:51:22.040 --> 1:51:25.120 it was Doug, but yeah, it's Doug. 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Uh, we're in the hunt in public access. 1:55:35.680 --> 1:55:46.360 Two more subjects you should all care about, getting people 1:55:46.400 --> 1:55:50.440 out hunting public land and access. Am in on the 1:55:50.560 --> 1:56:04.120 two things that we should all care about. Fishing, cats, 1:56:04.160 --> 1:56:15.120 your release. You think it matters to travel? I do so. 1:56:15.280 --> 1:56:22.040 Welcome to this podcast, friends, it's good to have you do. 1:56:29.040 --> 1:56:35.040 Welcome to the meeting podcast with people. It's so good 1:56:35.800 --> 1:56:45.160 have you here. Just remember some of these things might 1:56:45.240 --> 1:57:00.080 seem real simple, but others they're not so clear. M 1:57:00.280 --> 1:57:08.240 h Yeah, it's long, isn't it. Well? I can clean 1:57:08.320 --> 1:57:10.680 that up. Look, you get the idea. M