1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: And when it was all over, I said to myself. 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 2: That all there is. 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 3: In nineteen seventy, Peggy Lee won a Grammy for Is 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 3: That All There Is? A song many heard as an 5 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 3: anthem of on we, but not Peggy. 6 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: She saw it as absolutely life affirming and hopeful that 7 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,279 Speaker 1: bad things are going to happen and that you can 8 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: rise above them. 9 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,639 Speaker 4: Greg got the boom, stand back. 10 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: And have a ball, celebrate life in spite of all 11 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: of this that's happening. 12 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 3: And Peggy Lee had a lot to celebrate. At fifty, 13 00:00:52,920 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 3: she was already a legend, an artist of astonishing versatility, 14 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 3: a heartbreaker, anoles spring, a trailblazer, and a master of cool. 15 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 5: When you put your arms around me, I get a fever. 16 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 5: That's a hard began a fever. 17 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 3: Musically, how many different Peggy Lees over there? God dozens? 18 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 4: Watch that bringency? 19 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 2: How it's blooded. 20 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 6: When there's platin sugar, there's blues things I swinging, there's jazz, 21 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 6: there's pop. 22 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 3: Creatively, she seemed utterly unafraid. 23 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 7: Oh, you want me to do the folks who live 24 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 7: on the hill, so you'll weep. I can do that. 25 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 7: You want me to do black coffee, so you think 26 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 7: it's like, oh, I'm hanging out with junkies at a 27 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 7: kitchen table. 28 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: I can do that. 29 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 3: Personally, she was more conflicted. 30 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 4: I never wanted to be a star. 31 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 8: Yeah, I wanted to sing around the house and the 32 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 8: paint and write and raised babies and those kinds of things. 33 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: She would say that all the time. 34 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 3: Do you think that was what she wanted? 35 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: I think it was on some level what she wanted, But. 36 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 3: That compulsion to create, she. 37 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: Couldn't tamp it down. 38 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 9: There was nobody like her. 39 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 7: Andre Previn, who was a jazz pianist and played with 40 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 7: all of them, he told me that he thought she 41 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 7: was the best of them all. 42 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 3: Does she get the respect she deserves today? 43 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 4: You know? 44 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 7: And when Sir Andre Previn says to me, she's better 45 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 7: than Ella, because Ella could only do certain things at 46 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 7: which she was the best, but Peggy could do everything. 47 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 3: That was the curse From CBS Sunday Morning and iHeart 48 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 3: I'm Morocca and this is Mobituaries This moment Peggy Lee, 49 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 3: January twenty first, twenty oh two. The death of cool 50 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 3: I came to Peggy Lee relatively late in life. You 51 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 3: know how kids are drawn to big, bold colors, Well, 52 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 3: growing up, I was drawn to big, bold voices like 53 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 3: bat Banatar, running with the Side, or Broadways, Lori beach 54 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 3: Me belting it out in Annie and Why, and of 55 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 3: course Barbara always Barbara. 56 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 2: Last Lee. 57 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 3: But Peggy Lee she was more my father's generation of music. 58 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 3: Wasn't she that woman who sang about the doggie in 59 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 3: the window? 60 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 4: How much is that dog in the window? 61 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 3: Sorry? That was Patty Page? And no disrespect to Patty Page. 62 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 3: Her Tennessee Waltz undos me every time. The first time 63 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 3: I really paid any attention to Peggy Lee was well, naturally, 64 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 3: in nineteen ninety seven, when comedian Ellen DeGeneres came out 65 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 3: to ABC's Diane Sawyer and forty million other people in 66 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 3: a nationally televised interview. 67 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 9: Did you have sexual relations with men? 68 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: I slept with. 69 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 3: Two men. 70 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 10: Yes. 71 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: Didn't like it. Didn't like it. 72 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 4: That Peggy Lee song Is that all there is? 73 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 8: That was going over and over my head the first time. 74 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 4: Just kept singing, is that all there is? My dear? 75 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 11: Then let's keep dancing, that's what's going I thought, Am 76 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 11: I crazy? 77 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 8: Because I shouldn't be hearing Peggy Lee right now? 78 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 3: Of course, when I profiled Ellen in twenty eleven for 79 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 3: CBS Sunday Morning. I had to ask about that. I've 80 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 3: always wanted to know after the interview, when you came out, 81 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 3: did Peggy Lee get in contact with you? 82 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 5: No, No, she didn't. 83 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 7: That's a good question, though, But I bet I'm not 84 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 7: the only person who had sex and for the first 85 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 7: time and had that Peggy Lee song. 86 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 9: Is that all there is in their head? She did? 87 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 9: Is that all there is? 88 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 3: And you give me fever? 89 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 9: So something must have changed. She must have switched partners, right, 90 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 9: It's probably true. 91 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 3: Good. It was then that I started to give Peggy 92 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 3: Lee a real listen, and I came to appreciate the 93 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 3: shades of gray in her voice. She could swing with 94 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 3: the best of them, but she was more likely to 95 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 3: hold back, like she was keeping a secret. Johnnia, who 96 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 3: was this woman? Where did she come from? And that wind, 97 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 3: it's like a rumbling. 98 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 9: It's powerful, feels like I could blow this house down. 99 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 3: I met Peggy Lee's granddaughter, Holly Foster Wells, on the 100 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 3: second floor of an old train depot in the tiny 101 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 3: town of Wimbledon, North Dakota. There's no other way to 102 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 3: put it. This place is in the middle of nowhere. 103 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 3: Thirty miles from the big city of Jamestown, North Dakota, 104 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 3: where Peggy was born in nineteen twenty. Today, this train 105 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 3: depot is the Peggy Lee Museum. It's also where Peggy 106 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 3: lived when she was a teenager or standing in her bedroom. 107 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: The first time I came here, and I walked upstairs 108 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: and I stood in front of this window, I burst 109 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: into tears. 110 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 3: By the way, Holly really looks like her grandmother, blonde hair, saying, 111 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 3: big bright eyes. 112 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: Even today when we've been talking here, it's like I 113 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: feel I feel her here. 114 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 3: Peggy was still Norma Dolores Eggstrom when she lived here. 115 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: She wouldn't have been Peggy Lee without Norma. She wouldn't 116 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: have been Peggy Lee without this heartache. 117 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 3: And the heartache started early. 118 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 9: Her mother passed away when she was four. 119 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: It was a traumatic event that I think that was 120 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: kind of the beginning of her search, her search for healing. 121 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 3: Norma adored her father, who was the town's railroad depot manager, 122 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 3: but he was an alcoholic. 123 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 9: She helped run the depot when her dad wasn't in 124 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 9: a good place. 125 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 3: Even worse, the woman her father remarried was abusive. Peggy 126 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,239 Speaker 3: later claimed her stepmother once beat her over the head 127 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 3: with a cast iron skillet. 128 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 8: So I went through all that and I learned a 129 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 8: great deal from that. 130 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 3: That's Peggy talking to CBS much later in nineteen eighty six. 131 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 10: I learned how I run real that few other things 132 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 10: like that. 133 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: She said she would look out at the railroad tracks 134 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: and just imagine where they led. And she said, one day, 135 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave this place as soon as I know 136 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: where those train tracks lead. And it was a it 137 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: was a way out. And of course her other way 138 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: out was music. 139 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 3: Now, radio was still a relatively new technology around the 140 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 3: time Norma entered high school in the early nineteen thirties. 141 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 3: Tuning the dials of her Atwater Kent five tube radio receiver, 142 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 3: she fell in love with the voices of Maxine Sullivan. 143 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 5: Oh you take the high road, Now take the low road, 144 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 5: alb and scottlanderfio. 145 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 3: A young Louis Armstrong. 146 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 6: I'm so happy, asking me when this wing that music from? 147 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 3: And Billie Holiday. Yes, this white girl from the tundra, 148 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 3: who had only ever sung hymns at her Lutheran church 149 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 3: is listening mostly to black artists. But that's the music 150 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 3: that spoke to her. At seventeen, Norma was invited to 151 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 3: audition for the biggest radio station in North Dakota. This 152 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 3: is Wday Fargo, W Day Fargo. That's when program director 153 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 3: Ken Kennedy made a fateful decision. As she later recalled 154 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 3: in a nineteen seventy five interview, the. 155 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 9: Name Norma Egstrom didn't sound right. 156 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 4: He said, let's see, you. 157 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 2: Look like a you look like a Peggy Maggy? 158 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 9: What Beggy? 159 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 4: What you need? 160 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 10: Tried a few names and came up with Lee and 161 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 10: it was That was really how it started. 162 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 3: She had the Peggy Lee name. The Peggy Lee sound 163 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 3: came two years later, after she made her way to California. 164 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 3: Still unknown, she was singing at the Dollhouse Restaurant in 165 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 3: Palm Springs before a raucous crowd celebrating comedian Jack Benny's birthday. 166 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 3: Biographer Peter Richmond, author of Fever, The Life and Music 167 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 3: of Miss Peggy Lee, describes the scene. 168 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 7: People are just laughing, and so she's getting pissed off. 169 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 7: And she's only like nineteen, and she's singing in a 170 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 7: good club in front of celebrities. 171 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 3: She's pissed. And that's when Peggy decided if she couldn't 172 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 3: sing over them, she'd sing under them. 173 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 7: So she starts singing softer and softer, until people start 174 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 7: getting quiet because they can't hear her singing. And now 175 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 7: they're listening, and now they're captured. That's when she understood 176 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 7: volume wasn't going to be the thing. Nuance was going 177 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 7: to be the thing. 178 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 2: Moms like this make me through, though, And. 179 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 3: Though now there's no recording from that evening, but here 180 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 3: she is decades later, casting a similar spell over the 181 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 3: crowd at Manhattan's Basin Street East Club. 182 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 7: She knew that the more she could get the room silent, 183 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 7: the more she's got them. 184 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: No, she said, the challenges to leave out all but 185 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: the essentials. 186 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 3: Peggy would cultivate a style that was as minimalist as 187 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 3: the landscape she'd grown up in, cool but never cold. 188 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 3: While singing in Chicago in nineteen forty one, Peggy was 189 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 3: discovered by the king of swing, Benny Goodman, one of 190 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 3: the era's biggest bandleaders. Now, Goodman didn't much respect his 191 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 3: so called girl singers, and Peggy was intimidated by the 192 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 3: famously perfectionist Goodman. But when he noticed the twenty one 193 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 3: year old Peggy carrying around a prized possession a record 194 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 3: of blues singer Lil Green's why Don't You Do Right? 195 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:53,719 Speaker 3: He was intrigued you. 196 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 2: Had many money. In nineteen. 197 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 3: Goodman decided to let Peggy record her own version, and 198 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 3: it became her first hit. 199 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 4: Lea the Wama make a who Love You? Why don't 200 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 4: You Do Right? 201 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 7: She doesn't even have to worry about finding the rhythm 202 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 7: from the drummer or the bass player or Benny. 203 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 3: They're following her rhythm. 204 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 5: Get out of here and get me. 205 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 4: The money too. 206 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 3: It was while touring with Benny Goodman that Peggy, often 207 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 3: the only woman on the bus, met guitarist Dave Barber 208 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 3: and the two struck up a romance that didn't go 209 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 3: over well with Goodman, though, and Barbara was fired from 210 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 3: the band for quote unquote fraternizing with the girl singer. 211 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 3: But Peggy liked Dave, I mean, she really liked him, 212 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 3: and so she quit. She married Dave Barber and gave 213 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 3: birth to their daughter, Nikki later that year. 214 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: They had such chemistry together that was the love of 215 00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: her life. 216 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 3: There's this duet they wrote and recorded together called I 217 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 3: Don't Know Enough About You. They filmed the performance sort 218 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 3: of an early music video. 219 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 4: I know a little bit about a lot. 220 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 5: Of things, but I don't know enough about. 221 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 3: Peggy is playing a teacher, sitting at a desk, fiddling 222 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 3: with a pair of glasses. She looks so healthy, happy 223 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 3: and gorgeous. Dave Barber sits off to the side, strumming 224 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 3: his guitar. These are two people so at ease with 225 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 3: each other that the picture of contentment. 226 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 5: You get me in a fish Oh. 227 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: A new arman. 228 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 3: I don't know, but Dave, like Peggy's father, had a 229 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 3: drinking problem, and as Peggy's star rose, Dave's drinking only 230 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 3: got worse and it. 231 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: Broke her heart. But just as she always has done, 232 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: it fueled her music. 233 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 5: Gazza, don't enough of that. 234 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 3: After eight years of marriage, Dave Barber and Peggy Lee 235 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 3: filed for divorce. Coming up personally, Peggy takes on the 236 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 3: nineteen fifties as a single mother. Artistically, she ends up 237 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 3: owning the decade. 238 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 7: Person two Persons with Charles Collingwood. 239 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 3: In nineteen sixty, cameras from the CBS TV interview series 240 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 3: Person to Person visited Peggy Lee at her sprawling Beverly 241 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 3: Hills mansion, also known as the Peach Palace. 242 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 12: Well, now you've achieved quite a few goals up and 243 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 12: now what was your main goal as a youngster in Jamestown, 244 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 12: North Dakota. 245 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 9: Well, Charles, I had two goals really. 246 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 10: One was to be a successful singer, and the other 247 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 10: was to have a family. And I've been very happy 248 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 10: about having some success, and I have a wonderful daughter. 249 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 10: And of course as I have gone along, I picked 250 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 10: up a few more goals. I think it's good to 251 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 10: have a goal, don't you, Charles. 252 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 3: I think it is now. When Peggy says she'd had 253 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 3: some success, that's an understatement. In just the previous decade, 254 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 3: she had achieved more than most artists could hope to 255 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 3: in a lifetime. In this act, we're going to talk 256 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 3: about what made Peggy Lee one of the most important 257 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 3: musical artists of the nineteen fifties. 258 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a good day far sanging a song, and 259 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 5: it's a good. 260 00:16:56,080 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 3: Day for one thing. She was a prolific singer songwriter, 261 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 3: a rarity for women back then. She co wrote It's 262 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 3: a Good Day with Dave Barber. Peggy was always writing 263 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 3: back in North Dakota. She wrote poetry and ultimately she 264 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 3: had credits on more than two hundred and fifty songs, 265 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 3: sad songs. 266 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 2: Was then and no no. 267 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 3: Happy Songs. 268 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 4: I Dance by Fred Astaire and Brando's Eyes. 269 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 5: You're Runner's Hair, but I think to tell you is 270 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 5: only there that I love it with you? 271 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 3: And a certain Disney classic, What a Dog. 272 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 9: As a kid? 273 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 3: Was it really cool for you that your grandmother was 274 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 3: part of Lady in the Tramp. 275 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 9: So that's how my friend knew of her. 276 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 3: That's Peggy's granddaughter, Holly foster Wells. Again, Peggy co wrote 277 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 3: the score to Lady in the Tramp. But that's not 278 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 3: all she did on the movie. 279 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: She's the voice of the Siamese Cats. She's Darling the Mother, 280 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: She's Peg in the Dog Pound. 281 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 2: He's a child. 282 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: I love him, Yes, he love have got it pretty bad. 283 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: My grandmother had a film projector in her house and 284 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: she would take out that film every year and we 285 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 1: would watch it in the living room sidebar. 286 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 3: That same year, nineteen fifty five, Peggy scored an OSCAR 287 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 3: nomination playing an alcoholic saloon singer in the film Pete 288 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 3: Kelly's Blues. This is a sidebar because well, we don't 289 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 3: have time to get into all the things that Peggy 290 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 3: did in the nineteen fifties, blame her for being so 291 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 3: productive now. In addition to all the songs Peggy wrote, 292 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 3: they are the ones she all but rewrote. Peggy covered 293 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 3: a lot of popular songs, often breathing new life into them. 294 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 3: She took the song Heart from the Broadway show Damn Yankees. 295 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 2: You Gotta Have. 296 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 3: All, and gave it a Latin beat, You Gotta. She 297 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 3: took the song lover a Waltz from the Rogers and 298 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:38,959 Speaker 3: Heart musical Love Me Tonight, Speak My Name, and well 299 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 3: listen to what she did to that. She takes that 300 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 3: and turns it into something kind of wild. 301 00:19:51,320 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 7: Her final notes have been likened to an orgasm. 302 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 3: And in nineteen fifty eight, she took the song Fever, 303 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 3: originally recorded by R and B singer Little Willie John. 304 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 8: You never know how much love, never know how much 305 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 8: I care. 306 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 3: And gave it a new, stripped down arrangement, just bass 307 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 3: drums and finger snaps. 308 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 4: Never know how much I love you. 309 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 7: She's keeping so much in If this is the only 310 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 7: thing to signal what you're singing about, that's powerful. 311 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 5: When you put your arms around me, I gave a fever. 312 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 4: That's a hard thing you give. 313 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 3: Me It became the biggest hit of her career. That 314 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 3: sequence in the middle that sounds almost like beat poetry. 315 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 4: Roam me O loved Julia. 316 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 3: Peggy wrote that. 317 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 5: When he rounder, he said, Julivy, you my fame. 318 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 4: Now give us fever. 319 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 3: Also listen to the way she delivers those lines. Peggy 320 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 3: had been blurring the line between talking and singing as 321 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 3: far back as her Benny Goodman days. Here she is 322 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 3: on Coal Porters, Let's do It back in nineteen forty one. 323 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 5: Up Leland, little lapts, do it well, Let's do it, 324 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 5: Let's fall in. 325 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 3: The way she just tosses off the words let's do it. 326 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 3: Peggy came up with that. Now. Fever may have been 327 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 3: Peggy's biggest commercial success, but her artistic apex came with 328 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 3: the release of the album Black Coffee. 329 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 7: You can really feel her coming into the kitchen after 330 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 7: a long night and just looking at the coffee and saying, Wow, 331 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 7: it was worth it last night, but I gotta have 332 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 7: that now. 333 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 3: Here She is on the album's title track. 334 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 4: Black Coffee Loves a hand Mawnbreu. 335 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 3: Black Coffee was one of the very first concept albums 336 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:21,959 Speaker 3: ever recorded. It's about a woman's lonesome experience being in 337 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 3: love with a man she can't trust. The Milestone record 338 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,239 Speaker 3: is now considered one of the best vocal albums in 339 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 3: jazz history. 340 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 7: She becomes Cool in that album. 341 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 3: Black Coffee also cemented Lee's status as the high priestess 342 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 3: of pop jazz, acclaimed by critics and the masses alike. 343 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 3: Could Peggy Lee have only happened at the time that 344 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 3: she did. 345 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 9: Yes. 346 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 3: Biographer Peter Richmond says Peggy was peaking just as black 347 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 3: and white musical traditions were intermingling in the mainstream. 348 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 7: Peggy was able to incorporate so many different rhythms and emotions. 349 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 7: And she was, and I really think I can say this, 350 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 7: she was unique. There was nobody like her. 351 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 3: Later in her career, Peggy told one writer quote, I'm 352 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 3: not really a white singer. I sing black. I always have. 353 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 9: Now. 354 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 3: When Peggy made that comment in nineteen seventy four, it 355 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 3: had to have rankled many, just as it certainly would today. 356 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 3: There's a terrific essay about Peggy Lee written by culture 357 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 3: critic Gerald Early. He's a professor of English and African 358 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 3: American studies at Washington University in Saint Louis. Early writes 359 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 3: about the profoundly uneasy history of white performers emulating a 360 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 3: black sound, from Louis Prima to Elvis to eminem. Peggy, 361 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 3: he points out, didn't just emulate black singers. She literally 362 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 3: and famously would imitate Billie Holliday. 363 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 4: I love you first time. I love to them. You 364 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 4: got a certain and acute way of friendly. 365 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 8: So what was that about? Was she a big fan 366 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 8: of Billie Holidays. She was a huge fan of Billy Holidays. 367 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 8: She absolutely loved her music. And I heard that Billie Holiday. Well, 368 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 8: wasn't so crazy about my grandmother because I heard that 369 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 8: she felt like, not just my grandmother, but other people 370 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 8: too copied her. But as my grandmother's voice matured in 371 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 8: her career developed, you don't hear anybody but Peggy Lee. 372 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 3: Gerald early in that essay seems to agree that Peggy 373 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 3: was an original. He writes that she invented the hip 374 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 3: white female vocalist. He describes Peggy's imitation of Billy Holliday 375 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 3: as more than quote some sort of lame white girl 376 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 3: imitation of the great black jazz singer. It was an 377 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 3: expression of how accomplished Lee was as a jazz singer 378 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 3: and how much she respected holiday end quote. Peggy Lee 379 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 3: had deep bonds with black artists throughout her career. She 380 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 3: was an early champion and friend of Ray Charles. When 381 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 3: one of her childhood idols, Louis Armstrong, died in nineteen 382 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 3: seventy one, it was Peggy Lee who was invited to 383 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 3: sing the Lord's Prayer at his funeral, for. 384 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 2: That is the King and the Poe and the Blood. 385 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 3: And when CBS aired a star studded tribute to Duke 386 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 3: Ellington produced by Quincy Jones, Peggy Lee was the only 387 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 3: white solo artist featured, alongside Sarah Vaughan, ROBERTA. Flack, and 388 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 3: Aretha Franklin. If I'm the Duke Ellington once said, Peggy 389 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 3: Lee is Queen. Peggy had earned that title in the 390 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 3: nineteen fifties. She was no longer just a big band 391 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 3: singer Benny Goodman's Canary. Critically and commercially, she was an 392 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 3: artist of the highest order, on a par with Frank Sinatra. 393 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 3: But for all the hit songs she'd recorded, the one 394 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 3: that was closest to her heart wasn't one she'd written 395 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 3: or radically reimagined. 396 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 5: Someday We'll build a home on a hill top. 397 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 11: You and I. 398 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 9: Shine so the folks who live on the hill. 399 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 1: That's her very favorite song, and I think it just 400 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 1: paints this picture of an idyllic relationship and growing old 401 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: together and always having that soulmate by her side. 402 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 3: Peggy recorded it in nineteen fifty seven. The song was 403 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 3: written by Jerome Kern and Oscar Hammerstein twenty years earlier 404 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 3: as a romantic reverie. 405 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 4: We will Whiz because. 406 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 3: But Peggy's version is different. She's singing about something that 407 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 3: was never to be on that trumpet. 408 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 7: It's just so plaintive, the mournfulness of wishing a house 409 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 7: on the hill that will never be yours and really 410 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 7: doesn't exist. 411 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: And that's what she really wanted. So she hoped to 412 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: have with my grandfather. And she married three more times 413 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: after that, But it was not those were she called 414 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: those costume parties. Actually, well, I think she didn't think 415 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: they were real. They weren't real love affairs. She certainly 416 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 1: fell in love with many people throughout the years. I 417 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: just think maybe it was too much for these men 418 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: to be mister Peggy Lee. And and I don't know 419 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 1: that any man could have really given her the love 420 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: that she wanted. The closest she got to getting that love, 421 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: I think was from the audience. 422 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 3: On the other side of the break. Miss Peggy Lee 423 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 3: the icon. 424 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 11: Well, I can scoop up a great, big difference full 425 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 11: of lag from the dripping skin and look in the skill, 426 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 11: go out and do my shopping and be back to forth. 427 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 3: By the nineteen seventies, Peggy Lee had become Miss Peggy Lee, 428 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 3: a bona fide icon, even inspired the Muppets character Miss Piggy, 429 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 3: originally named Miss Piggy Lee, the. 430 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 11: Baby greased the car and pot of my face all 431 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 11: at the same time. 432 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: She thought that was pretty fantastic. I mean that pig 433 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: is glamorous. 434 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 3: Miss Peggy is the is the paragon of glamour. 435 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 9: Right, and she's a diva. And my grandma was a diva. 436 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 3: So growing up in that era, Holly Foster Wells spent 437 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 3: summers touring with her grandmother, beginning when she was just six, 438 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 3: and frankly, I'm kind of jealous. 439 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 9: So you would go on the road with her, Yeah, 440 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 9: tell me about that. She would take me all over 441 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 9: the world. 442 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: I would dress up in her gowns and we would 443 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: have breakfast in bed. We'd watch soap operas, and then 444 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: it would be time to get ready for the show. 445 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: Then we had to get serious because that was a 446 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: process of becoming miss Peggy Lee. 447 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 9: Yeah, it was. It was like a four hour process. 448 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 9: And she starts first with a bubble bath, and then 449 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 9: the makeup, and then the hair and the gowns. 450 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 3: There's a great story about a fan meeting her grandmother 451 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 3: in an elevator on the day of one of her shows. 452 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: She had a scarf and she had curlers and sunglasses 453 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,239 Speaker 1: and someone looked at her and said, are you Peggy Lee? 454 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 9: And she said not yet. 455 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 3: Now, we've talked plenty about Peggy as a recording artist, 456 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 3: but we haven't really touched on her as a live performer. 457 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 9: I would just be in awe of what she could do. 458 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: And I would see grown men crying, and I would 459 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: see couples holding hands and people. You could hear a 460 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: pin drop and this was really mesmerizing. 461 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 2: See sid. 462 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 3: See what there's a tape of her singing CC Rider. 463 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's a hypnotic. 464 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 9: I know exactly what performance that is. 465 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: And she early moves like she just moves a little 466 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: shoulder and just her face and it's so sexy. 467 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 3: That performance was at Bason Street East. We mentioned it earlier, 468 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:18,479 Speaker 3: a legendary Manhattan nightclub that no longer exists. Now, I 469 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 3: can tell you that if I could get in a 470 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 3: time machine and go back and near her live, I 471 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 3: would choose to go back to Basin Street East, the 472 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 3: club in New York City where she really triumphed. 473 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: Right, absolutely, And if I could go back into time machine, 474 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: that's when I would go back. 475 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 3: Because you're my plus one or I'm your plus one exactly. 476 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 3: We don't have a time machine. But luckily Peggy recorded 477 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 3: everything on real to reel tapes from sessions with her musicians. 478 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 4: Because one thing isn't very. 479 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 3: Clear, to sessions with her psychic how many. 480 00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: Times have you been married? 481 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 8: Well, married once and sort of married three times, so. 482 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 3: It's four, right and lucky us. Holly has agreed to 483 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 3: play some of those recordings, including a behind the scenes 484 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 3: moment with Peggy and one of her favorite artists. 485 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: Well, my grandmother loved the music of Ray Charles. He 486 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: pitched to her a song he'd written called tell all 487 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: the World about You. 488 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 2: You're so fun and you're so sweet. 489 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 5: How's going on? 490 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 2: You're so sweet, You're so fun? 491 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, I can't even remember my own thing 492 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 5: I gotta do. 493 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: And then she actually went in and recorded it. She 494 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: put her own spin on it. 495 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 5: You're so fun and you're so sweet, you can love Anuskin. 496 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 4: Talk about. 497 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 3: Peggy's home recordings also capture her goofing around with family. 498 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: So my grandmother was rehearsing at home, and my dad 499 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: and my mom and my brother were watching her rehearsal, 500 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: and then in the middle of it, she just decides 501 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: to bring out balloons and start sucking helium. 502 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 12: Ya lasa One'm from a lasa, Run for maball, run 503 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 12: for a little living and lung. 504 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 3: Yes, that's Peggy Lee singing on helium. 505 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 12: Ba bay every well, Yes, yeah, yese hey begs. 506 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 3: By the early nineteen eighties, Peggy was thinking seriously about legacy. 507 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 3: In nineteen eighty one, the great Lena Horn had had 508 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 3: a smash hit with her own one woman Broadway show. 509 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 3: Now it was Peggy's turn, as the sixty three year 510 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 3: old discussed with NBC's Gene Shallett in nineteen eighty three, Peggy. 511 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 10: You've got a new show coming on Broadway called Peg, Right, 512 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 10: so I want to know about that. Well, it's called 513 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 10: Peg because it's about my life, and. 514 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: I wrote it, and. 515 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 10: I started writing this for someone else to play. I mean, 516 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 10: there was going to be a show about you, but 517 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 10: someone else would play your life? 518 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 3: Yes, that chance? I mean, who else was going to 519 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 3: play Peggy Peg was a musical, of course, with original songs, 520 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 3: mostly co written by Peggy. It opened on December fourteenth, 521 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,320 Speaker 3: nineteen eighty three. It closed three days later. 522 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: It was one of I would say, her greatest failures 523 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: actually in her career. She was really, really just devastated. 524 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: It felt like a rejection of her life. 525 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 3: Because the show was autobiographical, it was a better life. 526 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: But and quite frankly, some people felt it was too depressing. 527 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 3: There was one song about Peggy's stepmother beating her. It 528 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:09,479 Speaker 3: was an up tempo song. 529 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 5: For eleven years, there was at least one beating a day, 530 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 5: one leading a they. 531 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 2: For eleven years. 532 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 4: There was at least one beating a day, so. 533 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 3: Many do you remember how the audience in the Broadway 534 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,240 Speaker 3: theater reacted to that? 535 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: That was an awkward moment in the show because people 536 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,839 Speaker 1: didn't know if they should laugh or cry. It was confusing. 537 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 3: In The New York Times, Frank Rich wrote, for those 538 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 3: who respect Peggy Lee as a vocalist, but who don't 539 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 3: worship her as a public personality. Peg may seem bizarre, 540 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 3: and that was one of the nicer things written about it. 541 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 3: And I can imagine that the reaction to that probably 542 00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 3: really shook her and made her think, have I just 543 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 3: lost my touch? 544 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: I remember her being defensive, like, this is my life, 545 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 1: Like wait, I'm so sorry if this is sad for 546 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: you or hard for you, but this is my life, 547 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: Like I'm just telling you what I went through. And 548 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,359 Speaker 1: if it's hard for you to hear about, think about 549 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: how it was to live it. 550 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 3: And away from Broadway, Peggy Lee's live performances weren't hitting 551 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 3: like they used. 552 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: To, so she aged, but these songs didn't age with her, 553 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 1: so she sometimes would approach them in a campy way. 554 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 1: And I don't know that that how that resonated with audiences, 555 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: if they liked it or not. 556 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 3: With her oversized sunglasses and outlandish wigs and kaftans, Peggy 557 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 3: was becoming a punchline. 558 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 1: I would be backstage with her and during intermission she 559 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 1: would want me to give her honest feedback about what 560 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 1: people were thinking in the audience, and she'd go on stage. 561 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: I'd run out watch the show, and I'd even go 562 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: and listen in the ladies room what people were saying. 563 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 1: And there came a time when I didn't want to 564 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 1: tell her those comments anymore because people were really critical, like, oh, 565 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 1: she sounds good, but she doesn't have the voice that 566 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: she used to have, or while she's gained weight, or wow, 567 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: or you know, people are really they come in with 568 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:19,800 Speaker 1: their own expectations. 569 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 3: There were things that were hard for you to hear 570 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,240 Speaker 3: and write, and hard to report back. 571 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: Right and things. So I didn't want to tell her, 572 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: you know, it was hard. 573 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,359 Speaker 3: By this point, Peggy's health was failing, in part due 574 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 3: to exhaustion. 575 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: She really never took a vacation. She would write about 576 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 1: places like Paris, but she wouldn't go there. She didn't 577 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 1: go there and slow down. 578 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 3: After a bad case of pneumonia, she became dependent on 579 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 3: an oxygen tank. By the nineteen nineties, she was using 580 00:37:55,239 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 3: a wheelchair and suffering complications due to her diabetes, and 581 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 3: spending more and more time at home in bed. And 582 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:05,439 Speaker 3: how long would she be in bed? 583 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,879 Speaker 1: Sometimes she could just be in bed until the next 584 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,919 Speaker 1: time she went on the road, which could be months. Yes, 585 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:16,959 Speaker 1: and she's learned to do everything from her bed, from 586 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 1: her bedroom, so it was like an office. She would 587 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 1: write songs in her bed. There's one I want to 588 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 1: play for you. That's so beautiful, haven to. 589 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 2: Lonely more too long and too. 590 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 3: So gorgeous, so much longing. 591 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 1: That's why we're all drawn to her songs though. It's 592 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 1: that longing that we all have, and then she just 593 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: puts it into words and song for us. 594 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 11: Cut up here. 595 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:23,799 Speaker 2: I guess I wouldn't know read for me because I 596 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 2: haven't long too long. 597 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,720 Speaker 3: Were there times when you'd see her in bed and think, now, 598 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 3: I wonder if she could get up and walk out 599 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:44,399 Speaker 3: of here? 600 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 1: She absolutely could, and I know that because well she 601 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 1: would have dinner parties where she would at least go 602 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 1: from the bedroom to the dining room. But there was 603 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,280 Speaker 1: also a time when I got in a car accident. 604 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:03,479 Speaker 1: Someone t boned men intersection and really badly destroyed my car. 605 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,839 Speaker 1: I was okay, thank goodness, but I called her and 606 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 1: she was there in like ten minutes, with her turbanon 607 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 1: and her sunglasses, looking very glamorous. But she was there 608 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:16,320 Speaker 1: in ten minutes. 609 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 3: In nineteen ninety five, a seventy five year old Peggy 610 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:25,840 Speaker 3: Lee performed from a wheelchair at the Hollywood Bowl. After 611 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 3: the show that night, Holly told her grandmother that it 612 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 3: was time. 613 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,800 Speaker 1: I just said, it just seems like it's getting harder 614 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 1: for you. She didn't ever want to be thought of 615 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,320 Speaker 1: as a joke. She wanted to go out on a high, 616 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 1: and that was the end. That was the last performance. 617 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 3: Holly says, Peggy remained a romantic until the very end. 618 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 1: One of the ways I know that is when I 619 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: fell in love with my husband and told her, oh, Mama, 620 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:59,800 Speaker 1: I've met a boy, and she wanted to know everything. 621 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 1: It was like she was reading a romance novel. She 622 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 1: just ate it up. She at that point was beyond 623 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:10,800 Speaker 1: romance for herself. But she loved watching me have a romance. 624 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: And I'm so grateful that she was able to be 625 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 1: at our wedding. We got married in June of nineteen 626 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 1: ninety eight, and she had her stroke in October. 627 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 3: Peggy Lee died of a heart attack on January twenty first, 628 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:33,359 Speaker 3: twenty oh two, at the age of eighty one. There's 629 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,800 Speaker 3: a PBS documentary on Peggy that was made in nineteen 630 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,919 Speaker 3: sixty nine, the year before she released Is that all There? 631 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 3: Is Peggy is wry and sophisticated. Here an artist who 632 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 3: knows what she wants. 633 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,320 Speaker 10: I choose a material that lets me tell a story. 634 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 4: You know, it's a nice way. 635 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,800 Speaker 3: To make a living. I wants talk to a musician 636 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 3: who said, your voice is one of the greatest musical 637 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,840 Speaker 3: instruments ever ever created. 638 00:41:58,600 --> 00:41:59,840 Speaker 4: Whoever that was, I love it. 639 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 3: And yet there's something about the way she's wearing her hair. 640 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,399 Speaker 3: Here you can see her artistry, but she's also she's 641 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,399 Speaker 3: wearing her hair and pigtails, so there's something also kind 642 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:12,919 Speaker 3: of girlish at the same time. 643 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, there's I always said there was a little 644 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 1: girl in her. 645 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 9: Sometimes I would see that childlike. 646 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,720 Speaker 1: Quality, and I think it was she was always looking 647 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:29,360 Speaker 1: for our mom. She was a powerful woman with a 648 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 1: powerful career, but there was that little girl there always. 649 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 3: What do you think she was trying to do with 650 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:37,360 Speaker 3: her voice? 651 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,839 Speaker 7: She had to get out of the childhood physically as 652 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:42,879 Speaker 7: well as metaphorically. 653 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 3: That's biographer Peter Richmond. 654 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 7: Again, she had to leave behind the thing she was leaving, 655 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 7: and she's doing it with one tool, the voice and 656 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,759 Speaker 7: the rhythm and the perfect pitch and the talent she 657 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,399 Speaker 7: had in writing lyrics that others couldn't. That was her 658 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,360 Speaker 7: way of feeling a psychic wound. 659 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 1: She said she wanted to leave a legacy, and she 660 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:06,959 Speaker 1: really did. 661 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 3: One final note today, Holly Foster Wells manages the Peggy 662 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 3: Lee estate, which includes all those songs her grandmother wrote. 663 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 3: Despite offers, Peggy never sold the rights to her written work. 664 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 3: Just like Dolly Parton, Joni Mitchell, Taylor Swift, great singer 665 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 3: songwriters who came after her. Peggy Lee understood the value 666 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 3: of what she had created. 667 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 4: And it's a good day. Ah, shine in your shoes and. 668 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 2: It's a good day. 669 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 3: I certainly hope you enjoyed this mobituary. May I ask 670 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,640 Speaker 3: you to please rate and review our podcast. You can 671 00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 3: also follow Mobituaries on Facebook and Instagram, and you can 672 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 3: follow me on the social media platform formerly known as 673 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 3: Twitter at morocca. Hear all new episodes of Mobituaries every 674 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:13,880 Speaker 3: Wednesday wherever you get your podcasts, and check out Mobituaries 675 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,880 Speaker 3: Great Lives Worth Reliving, the New York Times best selling book, 676 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 3: now available in paperback and audiobook. It includes plenty of 677 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 3: stories not in the podcast. This episode of Mobituaries was 678 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:34,360 Speaker 3: produced by Aaron Shrank Our team of producers also includes 679 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 3: Hazel Brian and me Morocca, with engineering by Josh Han. 680 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 3: Our theme music is written by Daniel Hart. Our archival 681 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:48,360 Speaker 3: producer is Jamie Benson. Mobituary's production company is Neon Hum Media. 682 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 3: The original television version of this story was produced for 683 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 3: CBS Sunday Morning by John Demilio and edited by Steven Tyler. 684 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:03,359 Speaker 3: Indispensable support from Alan Pang, Reggie Bazil and everyone at 685 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:07,880 Speaker 3: CBS News Radio Special thanks to Holly Foster Wells and 686 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 3: the Estate of Peggy Lee, Steve Razies, Rand Morrison, Craig Swaggler, 687 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:19,880 Speaker 3: Mike Hernandez, Alberto Robina and Francisco Robina. Executive producers for 688 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:25,200 Speaker 3: Mobituaries include Megan Marcus, Jonathan Hirsch, and Mo Roca. The 689 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 3: series is created by Yours Truly