WEBVTT - Marsha Ambrosius 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:05.000 R and B Money. 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:06.120 We are. 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:10.120 Thanks take valoti. 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:13.960 We are the authority on. 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:16.080 R and B. 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:22.840 Ladies and gentlemen, money is tank This, my friend, Come on, 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:26.239 is the R and B Money podcast. This is the 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:30.560 authority on all things R and B. 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:31.880 What the fun is your accent? 0:00:32.920 --> 0:00:33.199 Heard on? 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:35.760 My friend? 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:40.000 Be careful, my friend, what you asked for? Because it's 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:44.080 a flow in my spirit? Show is going to have 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:45.320 a certain flow today. 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:50.159 Come on mate, you know mate, come on, bro. 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:54.960 Where we try to organize this thing as it flows? 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:55.400 Is it is? 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:59.560 It reaches your spirit in your inside. 0:00:59.800 --> 0:01:03.120 It it kind of models poetry. 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:06.200 Yeah, yes, it does flow so well. 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:09.240 It flows so well, The flows so well, and you 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:12.280 put it together and as like a fluid creek kind 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:19.399 of thing. Ladies and gentlemen, it just got expensive. It's 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:22.160 just the level of gift has gone. 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:26.720 To the stratuspheares and outer fears and galaxies that we've 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:33.319 never seen. I'm just excited to be here to to 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:35.880 talk to this young lady who's just one of the 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:38.679 most talented human beings I've ever seen in my life. 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:44.120 Than her name, Let's see her name correctly because it 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:45.080 deserves reference. 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:53.800 Marcia Ambrosious, amazing amazing. 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:59.720 One more time to me Ambrocious Ambrosious. Okay, so some 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:05.440 people do say Ambrosius, right, Okay, then it's Ambrosious. I 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:07.800 don't even know how to pronounce my own name anymore. 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:11.680 I've heard it back to me so many times wrong. 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:14.440 How did you were born? 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:17.800 When I was born, Darling, I came out of the 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:24.080 woman and they said, this is Marcia Ambrosius. 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:28.920 Ambrosius, that Ambrosius ambros So when I got to America 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:32.040 was like, what's up the Martian Ambrosious or Ambrose or 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:35.079 Ambarrose or ambros Ambrosias. 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:40.440 So it's like a z I kind of like Marcia amburrows. 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:44.400 I was referred to us, not even Marsha Amberrose. Oh 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:53.720 they go Marcia amber Ambarrosia Amberrows. I just left it, 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:56.800 you know what. Being in Philadelphia that long, it was 0:02:56.840 --> 0:02:57.400 what it was. 0:02:57.520 --> 0:03:02.160 But I love it, Ambrosious. 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:05.680 With your wonderfully awful British accent. 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:08.160 Well, are a lot of things I don't do, so 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:11.480 I like to put all of them on display. 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:12.560 This is why we hear. 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:15.799 What's up? Guys. I feel like. 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:26.400 You're like you're like one of the rare artists, one 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:30.359 of the rare entities where you've that you've been able 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:35.440 to maintain a mystique about you, But every time your 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:39.800 name is brought up, it's like a real thing. 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:43.320 Still to this day, it's lovely to hear. 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:49.320 I mean, you're you've, you've your your imprint, and I 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:51.960 think it's it's it's because you're wonderfully talented. It is 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:54.800 because you're an awesome human being, but you're very distinct 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:57.440 in how you approach all of it, like it's very 0:03:57.560 --> 0:03:58.240 much yours. 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:03.160 I've been intent My intentions have always been to do 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:08.120 just that. I think I've been such a unique individual 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:11.440 in this very when I say urban space, in our 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:16.479 R and B field. Unfortunately, on one side, it's been 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:21.280 deemed as one thing, one toned, it's this box. And 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:24.719 then you try and do that one thing that makes 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:27.920 you outstanding, and you're seeing how long that can sustain, 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:30.799 and you're like, Okay, how long can I get away 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:34.880 with B and myself before I'm then forced into having 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:38.599 to fine tune this thing that people are grasping towards. 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:40.599 Because what R and B has been the driving force 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:44.880 of our space for however long, And it's wild that 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:49.360 I remember doing my first solo project with late nights 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:52.839 and early mornings, and I had so many gems in 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:54.280 the cut, and I'm like, oh, I can't wait to 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:58.200 put this record out. And there's this one thing I 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:03.360 hope she cheats on you a basketball player, which playing 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:06.880 basketball my entire life just felt like a funny little joke, 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:09.080 a little free STYLI did on what was it ustream 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:11.040 we used to have at the time, freestyled it on 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:14.719 and that's the thing that takes off, not far Away, 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:19.279 not Sour Times, not Lose Myself, not any other record. 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:24.719 The Ratchet one the outlandish statement, and I was like, hmm, 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:27.000 I see R and B and hip hop doing this 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:31.680 fusion thing where the shift is about to happen and 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:35.000 people are going to go ratchet, and there's nothing that 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:37.839 we can do other than hold onto the reins and 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:41.360 still try and find yourself within it. But coming from 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:44.720 a space of I've been able to say what the 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:49.240 fuck I want for so long, it's I should be 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:50.440 able to say what the fuck. 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:53.279 I want, absolutely absolutely know. 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:56.000 But you have to stand on that in R and 0:05:56.040 --> 0:06:00.240 B and some people have a way of doing it. 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:04.280 Anyone can sing your song and there's no uniqueness to it. 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:06.640 It's just a good song and anyone can sing it, 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:10.560 name an artist, give it to them. But then there's me, 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:14.320 and there are very few people that are just going 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:16.880 to say, Okay, I'm going to sing a Marsha song 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:20.960 because it's such a signature, it's so unique, even if 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:23.440 it's even if it's I'm trying to touch on this 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:27.839 little thing that I think R and B is for 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:31.159 a joke. I hope she cheats. I hope she chooses 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:34.000 the most ratchet thing I think I did with my 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:40.520 space in all of its uniqueness. 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:44.000 I mean, is it just like or is it just 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:44.880 the truth? 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:49.920 It's just real I'm saying ratchet coming from me, where 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:53.160 people are like, oh my god, Marshia like say yes, 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:55.840 Marsha like you know. So it's it's the. 0:06:55.920 --> 0:06:58.599 Difference, and maybe we may look at it because we 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:02.400 know you exactly a differently. You know, it didn't surprise me, 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:08.400 of course. In the record, I'm like you, she feel 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:09.720 a way about these lebrons. 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:14.960 I'm a little better, just a little better. I'm doing 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:17.760 better now. And that was the song, and you know, 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:21.280 but it was still very much R and B. 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:24.280 Absolutely it's called the truth. 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:26.720 And that's what R and B is it's just the truth. 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:29.200 You can interpret how it should. 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:31.000 Should be the truth. 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:33.880 RB should be the truth, and that's the uniqueness that 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:35.360 stands the test of time. 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:38.600 And I feel like I can stand on saying that 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:43.400 I've done so for twenty plus years now. That's crazy 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:49.960 to say that you sustain that. But in also praising 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:53.080 what this platform is as well, you and I have 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:58.679 brushed shoulders that entire time. That's insane to go into 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:01.960 this being well not front row. I've only got like 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:04.960 third row tickets to your concerts. I couldn't. It was 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:06.480 sold out by the time I was getting this, so 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:08.560 we've got freebie got in anyway. So there, I am 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:15.440 a tank like your lungs and I'm a fan. And 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:19.840 then coming into it, we're sharing stages together. Absolutely so 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:22.040 not saying your age and I think you've been doing 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:27.320 this one, but it's like to do that in our 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:31.680 field and really claim to not only have made R 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:36.400 and B money, still making R and B money, still 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:40.080 have R and B money. There's a big difference in 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:43.560 that because in our field, a lot of money is. 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:46.319 I just play private school tuition, so I don't really 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:47.520 get too much R and B money. 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:48.240 Left this week. 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:51.920 The fact that you can say that you had it 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:56.079 to give that up, I know what that is. 0:08:55.640 --> 0:09:05.520 It hurts that I got a pond and ship you can. 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:07.080 It will? 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:13.480 I hate it. No, we're not claiming that we're actually 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:17.400 going to stand on businesses say that we make and 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:22.440 still and laugh about the luxury in private school because 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:27.440 of what we've done for two plus decades now, that's 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:33.600 insane and incredible, with more to come. I haven't written 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:34.800 my best song yet. 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:36.560 Talk about loads of them. 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:40.800 I can write so much more like and Will. There's 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:43.480 too much life to be had. It's too many memories 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:47.400 to make, and just to see the reaction from people 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:50.720 in the audience listening to these songs that we made 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:54.280 over that course of time and it resonated in a way. 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:59.120 It's powerful and I respect that power, which is why 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:04.199 I've only least so much like I've actually contained because 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:11.880 it's a responsibility. You're responsible for someone's happiness, heartache, love, life, hate, 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:15.760 just through the songs that we make. It is a responsibility, 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:19.079 and I do take it seriously. It's terrible, but. 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:21.960 It should be though. 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:27.160 Not My music isn't for play play like, don't play 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:29.880 it if you don't mean it like you want to 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:34.000 one night stand and you want to play a Marsha record, 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:36.000 it might turn into forever. 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:43.520 Listen, I can think you know what, no white ship. 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:46.040 Have a wife? 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:49.480 What are we doing? How do let's go back to 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:54.560 the beginning. When does when does someone say? And in 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:59.240 the beginning, give me give me the birthplace of your 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:00.440 unique self? 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:07.080 Having a crush on the guy that worked in McDonald's 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:12.600 in Campbewell, London, England, South London. He was a friend 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:17.000 of a kid that lived down the street. His name 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:19.600 was Mark. I don't even know his friend's name. I 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:24.320 just knew that he had the old school brown McDonald's uniform, remember, 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:28.480 like the shitty brown with the hat and the clean 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:38.080 pressure like that McDonald Like I have not the big Mac. 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:44.600 So my school was within five minutes walking distance. McDonald's 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:48.320 was like seven minutes the opposite direction. I didn't need 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:50.560 to be over there, but would go over there and 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:56.960 just stand outside the window salivating over well the cheeseburger, 0:11:57.000 --> 0:12:02.720 but him as well. And this song I wrote in 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:04.800 my head at the time was called Gonna Get You, 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:10.760 So I was out to get it like like it 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.440 was called gonna get You like I was walking down 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:17.360 the road, saw your face. It was so terrible. You 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:20.600 looked at me, Yeah, you were away. It was like 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:25.000 really corny, really cheesy, but the core of it of 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:31.560 it twelve thirteen year old melody. Years go by. Now 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:36.320 I'm in my teens, teens, teens where feelings are true feelings. 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:42.360 And that turned into butterflies. So it was I just 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:44.920 want to touch and kiss and I wish that I 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:49.160 could be with you tonight. You would be butterflies. So 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:53.640 I wrote Butterflies about him at what age I was 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:57.000 like sixteen? I had to be sixteen seventeen because I 0:12:57.040 --> 0:12:59.920 was definitely going to that bust up to get the 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:04.720 thirty five thirty five bus to Brixton to play for 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:07.400 the Brixton Topcats. I was still playing ball at that time, 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:10.440 and I would go to that McDonald's every single time 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:11.120 get the bus. 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:13.120 How long did he work at that McDonald's. It was 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:15.080 like three four years he put it in time. 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:21.240 I just remember the uniform going from dusty brown to 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:24.480 you know, the white shirt. So maybe it was flipping 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:30.160 burgers at first and then sweeping the floor like the 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:42.520 big exactly exactly, So butterflies happens from that. So my 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:47.559 unique perspective on seeing this very monotonous scenario come from 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:51.360 innocent feelings like oh, one day I'm gonna get you. 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:55.079 I'm gonna get you to I have feelings you give 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:59.120 me butterflies, like all you're gonna do is just walk 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:01.439 away and pass me by. I don't even acknowledge my 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:06.040 smile when I tried to say hello to you. M Yeah, 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:12.199 so I felt that, but really melodically and in composing 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:16.920 certain songs like that stemmed from my obsession with Jodasy. 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:20.760 There's always that, yeah. 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:26.120 Like Jodasy has been my reason. Okay, so Prince Michael Stevie, 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:30.000 no particular order, favorite artists of all time, and they're 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:33.320 like the umbrellas of then everyone else because I can 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:36.960 say all the other names, they just go in those brackets. Stevie, 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:43.280 every performer, writer, musician, prince, complete, rock star, abstract in 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:48.800 his own way. Michael was just a fucking star. Yeah, yeah, stars, 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:54.920 legend star of stars, hits of hits, and I loved 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:59.600 them all dearly. I didn't want to make music until 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:05.960 I heard the production of Davante make music like sit there, figure. 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:08.520 Out anybody in your family making music? Though, or not dad, 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:09.000 your dad. 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:13.640 My dad was a musician and basketball coach, hence me. 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:18.800 So it was him playing bass or league guitar, singing 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:23.120 in a seventies funk band called Supercharge that were actually 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:25.560 signed to Virgin You know what I'm saying. 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:26.080 I like that. 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:31.840 When I was born one and that like Supercharger is 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:36.280 doing it. So I had that background. And there's me 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:40.160 watching my dad play all these instruments and don't touch that, 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:43.080 and he you know, missing me into Okay, I'm gonna 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:45.080 touch it. I'm play this bass real quick, and play 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:48.400 these keys real quick, and play you know. So the 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:52.240 love for music came from just it being around me. 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:58.880 But listening to that Jodicy era, the New Jack Swing era, 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:02.120 I was like, what I think doing? What is this thing? 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:05.240 Let me figure out these chords, Let me listen to 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:08.280 these harmonies. What do you do again? And then I'm 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:11.160 the fifth member of joy Bocally. I can find the 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:13.000 other harmony in anything like. 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:15.560 It's insane, like maybe I was the fifth member. Do 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:16.600 you think you can be sick? 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:19.200 We can fight, we can fight. 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:24.880 He said that way too confidently. I don't know if 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:26.800 you've met. 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:31.880 You gave yourself a name nice to meet you, Jayon. 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:40.160 Misters because I'm both mister mister, yeah, I feel you. 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:43.360 I don know this episode we had. 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:50.720 And he verified this. Yeah, I don't know we actually verified. 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:55.240 But other than thanked you for being so craciously, I'm kind. 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:58.880 But I will say without I don't know. 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:08.360 Fifty six. There's a lot of us out here. 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:11.240 There's no me, there's nine. 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:15.080 Seriously, I'm going to. 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:19.880 List all right, listen to any one of my songs 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:25.280 a cappella and really hear my harmony arrangements and just 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:27.560 know where that comes from so you can claim whatever 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:32.320 your spot is. I just know from you. It's all 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:35.359 in there, all of that influences in there. And my 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:40.399 reasons why to create the way I create stemmed from 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:43.440 really picking apart what that was, and it was from 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:48.960 the the interludes, like the nerve of the interludes. We're 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:53.200 just outrageous in nineties R and B and to want 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:58.840 to carry that further and keep the integrity of what 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:01.640 my R and B for me is what I pursued 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:04.800 this entire time. And the longevity in that is why 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:08.800 you can sustain that. Because people want to feel exactly that, 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:13.000 they want to fight for their sixth or seventh position 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:15.119 that they so claim your. 0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:18.560 Set, don't make me called casey. 0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:23.119 I got I'll call the family. 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:26.640 I'll yeah, I'll. 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:27.240 Call this mama. 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:31.920 How about that you love you love? 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:34.040 I gotta step I gotta step aside on that. 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:35.879 Okay, So yeah, I might have to bow down to 0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:37.800 That's that's that's that's fine. 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:39.359 I say. 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:43.640 The worst thing are we fighting over twenty thirty years 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:44.120 from now? 0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:48.200 The worst thing is don't go to an NBA game 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:48.600 with Tank? 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:54.760 Why every NBA niggas, Mama are the biggest Tank fans 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:59.280 you've ever met in your life. It's the craziest. It's 0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:02.800 the craziest thing in the world. I'm like, wait, wait, 0:19:02.800 --> 0:19:03.440 who mama is that? 0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:05.480 Oh? You know that's that's that's just man. You know 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:11.680 I had to go saying Hay birthday, I graduated. That's 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:14.080 how he Trump's that all arguments. 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:18.520 I call the mom that's not fair. 0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:20.680 I get their mama's tickets. 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:23.760 Their mama's tickets. It's true. 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:25.920 Yeah, there's nothing you can do about that. 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:31.399 Nothing Like So when you were so, when you're going 0:19:31.440 --> 0:19:34.320 through this phase right where you're you're becoming this songwriter 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:37.920 and you're loving the music, you're also playing basketball. 0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:39.880 How are you. 0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:45.720 Juggling too, because what you're talking about musically is not 0:19:45.800 --> 0:19:49.000 a locker room conversation. No, that's not like you're not 0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:52.720 taking the Jogsy tapes into the basketball locker room and 0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:56.560 y'all talking about the divante harmonies in the in the in. 0:19:56.600 --> 0:19:57.520 The piano. 0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:02.520 That was having well the Walkman at the time, which 0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:06.760 is shaky, juggly cassette tape advancing into the CD. It 0:20:06.880 --> 0:20:09.639 was me with my headphones and all of the teammates, oh, 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:16.080 sing that song again. Yeah, So that was my way 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:20.840 of sharing it and then getting the you know, still 0:20:21.000 --> 0:20:23.840 very insecure in that aren and I didn't really want 0:20:23.880 --> 0:20:26.240 to be on any stages, didn't want to be seen, 0:20:26.359 --> 0:20:28.200 but my teammates through. 0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:28.640 Your height. 0:20:30.560 --> 0:20:32.440 That again your wife, you can sing, and I'm like. 0:20:32.640 --> 0:20:33.560 You putting in your time. 0:20:33.760 --> 0:20:33.960 Yeah. 0:20:34.440 --> 0:20:35.200 So that was my. 0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:40.719 Very intimate first experience of putting myself out there. So 0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:44.719 that was my version of Okay, maybe I'm onto something. 0:20:45.000 --> 0:20:48.080 So I wasn't juggling, not according to my dad, who 0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:50.400 was very much you're going to be about this possible 0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:52.720 life one hundred percent, or you're going to take music seriously. 0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:58.000 And I didn't take music seriously until I tore ligaments. 0:20:58.320 --> 0:21:01.280 Can we get the violins or something that moment, because 0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:11.639 it was we got devastating, devastating, it was tragic. Keep on. 0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:19.119 I heard the crunch, but in America, I wasn't. I 0:21:19.160 --> 0:21:22.800 was still overseas. I was playing a three on three 0:21:23.240 --> 0:21:28.879 pickup game at Elephant and Castle Gym, and we hadn't 0:21:28.880 --> 0:21:32.600 lost the game, and I just wanted to play one 0:21:32.600 --> 0:21:37.240 more game. We lost the last game and I was like, nah, 0:21:38.240 --> 0:21:40.879 I'm not leaving the floor until we win again. Played 0:21:40.960 --> 0:21:46.200 music again, played music. So I played that last game, 0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:54.800 and I remember receiving the ball m Remember it was 0:21:54.800 --> 0:22:02.159 like yesterday. I went to crossover and as soon as 0:22:02.200 --> 0:22:09.480 I hit that pivot crunch, It's like a bricocheted through 0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:16.520 the entire gym, and I just want to break down 0:22:16.920 --> 0:22:17.600 the crack. 0:22:29.080 --> 0:22:30.680 Lord help me. 0:22:36.040 --> 0:22:37.960 Yeah, it was over then, and then you can start 0:22:38.040 --> 0:22:44.480 now after that the whole world and no, there's no 0:22:44.520 --> 0:22:45.160 need to get sad. 0:22:45.880 --> 0:22:48.400 It's so great with your extity and we've done nothing. 0:22:50.600 --> 0:22:52.960 So that's what happened. It was a movie scene. It 0:22:53.040 --> 0:22:58.879 was like slow motion, and I hadn't seen my life 0:22:59.160 --> 0:23:21.479 without basket until that morning, heartbreaking me, crushing, like you 0:23:21.560 --> 0:23:24.320 don't picture your life without the thing that you love 0:23:24.480 --> 0:23:29.720 until you've lost it. So music hobby can listen to 0:23:29.880 --> 0:23:33.760 music all day. My mother's vinyl collection outrageous, Go in 0:23:33.800 --> 0:23:37.800 the crib Basketball. I'm up first thing in the morning. 0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:40.280 It's late nights and early mornings for basketball. For me, 0:23:40.480 --> 0:23:45.800 it was practice Monday through Friday, away game, Saturday, home game, 0:23:45.840 --> 0:23:49.560 Sunday repeat. I didn't have a day off, not with basketball. 0:23:50.359 --> 0:23:53.560 And then it's gone and I was like, Okay, what 0:23:53.560 --> 0:23:56.320 am I going to do. I'm going to write about it. 0:23:57.200 --> 0:24:00.320 And I got home, got a diary, got in front 0:24:00.320 --> 0:24:04.040 of my piano, and I wrote the song If I 0:24:04.119 --> 0:24:09.240 Was a Bird, and that was about losing basketball, which 0:24:09.320 --> 0:24:12.199 was then a part of the first Flowsry album. So 0:24:12.280 --> 0:24:16.720 If I Was a Bird stemmed from Michael Jordan's documentary 0:24:16.760 --> 0:24:19.480 at the time, Come Fly with Me. I used to 0:24:19.560 --> 0:24:26.160 watch that'll repeat every day day and it was without basketball, 0:24:26.200 --> 0:24:29.840 my life is incomplete. So it's like you have me 0:24:29.960 --> 0:24:33.920 caught up in this starry eyed well the dreams, and 0:24:36.160 --> 0:24:37.480 it's that one last shot. 0:24:40.119 --> 0:24:44.159 All these songs are about flipping burgers and shooting baskets. 0:24:44.760 --> 0:24:51.160 Regular I take the most regular ship and I make 0:24:51.200 --> 0:24:56.679 it your every day like most of my prolific long 0:24:57.080 --> 0:25:00.280 jevity long game. I want this music to in the 0:25:00.320 --> 0:25:02.800 space forever. A basic sayings it's what you're going to 0:25:02.880 --> 0:25:04.800 do is say yes, getting late? Why are you going 0:25:04.800 --> 0:25:05.280 to be here? 0:25:05.640 --> 0:25:05.920 Hello? 0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:09.280 How are you? Were you up to nothing? I hope 0:25:09.320 --> 0:25:11.240 you choose on you with a possible player. It's very 0:25:11.400 --> 0:25:14.080 matter of fact, yeah, far away and every minute you're 0:25:14.080 --> 0:25:15.680 going to missing you. So it's going to be a 0:25:15.760 --> 0:25:18.399 late night early morning when I come home. 0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:20.920 It just feels like. 0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:30.320 Not not that your universal calling, will you know, make 0:25:30.359 --> 0:25:33.399 the floor a little extra slippery at that time or 0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:38.400 make your shoes stick to the parquet so that your need. 0:25:38.119 --> 0:25:39.639 Goes to that. 0:25:39.880 --> 0:25:44.920 Not that it does that, right, but your calling has 0:25:45.000 --> 0:25:52.600 a way of showing itself and showing up to where 0:25:52.680 --> 0:25:57.160 you ultimately don't have a choice. 0:25:57.480 --> 0:26:01.560 I agree with that, and that just comes with what 0:26:01.760 --> 0:26:04.640 is our gift. We can run from it if we 0:26:04.680 --> 0:26:07.600 want to, and it's gonna be right there going up. 0:26:07.920 --> 0:26:10.800 Excuse me. The gift that I gave you, it's time 0:26:10.840 --> 0:26:12.840 for you to give it to the world because that's 0:26:12.880 --> 0:26:15.560 what you've been blessed with and regardless of where your 0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:18.000