1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: for our enemies because we're going to medieval on these people. 3 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: There's not got a free shot. All these networks lying 4 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: about the people, the people have had a belly full 5 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,159 Speaker 1: of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I 6 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: know you try to do everything in the world to 7 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's 8 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: going to happen. 9 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 2: And where do people like that go to share the 10 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 2: big line? Mega media? 11 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 3: I wish in my soul, I wish that any of 12 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 3: these people had a conscience. 13 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? 14 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 4: If that answer is to save my country, this country 15 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 4: will be saved. 16 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 5: Wor use your host, Stephen k Back. 17 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: It's Wednesday, twenty August, Year of Our Lord, twenty twenty five. 18 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: Thank you for being here for the second hour of 19 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: the morning edition. We're also going to be on fire 20 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: the afternoon edition. We got so much four as the 21 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: day we came and wedge it all in. I've got 22 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 1: Philip Patrick, i got Steve Cortez. I'm gonna get back 23 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 1: to Steve Cortez in a moment and bringing phil Patrick 24 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: after just after We've got Senator Mike Lee by phone, 25 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: and I need to take certainly because this goes back 26 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,919 Speaker 1: to my open about twenty twenty six and beyond centaer. 27 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: Mike Lee, thank you, and it's so great to have 28 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: you here because we always look to you to help 29 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: us out with the constitution and the constitutionality of things. 30 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: This whole the three aspects of everything that's going on. 31 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: One the President calling for a mid decade census that's 32 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: done right, done correctly, done of illegal aliens, but also 33 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: doesn't have all the problems that the Commerce Department had 34 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: last time. Also the redishuting fight. And folks, I think 35 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: we're getting very close to a vote in Texas, but 36 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: it's not good enough. We need a Texas ten, not 37 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: the five that was originally there. Because the Democrats try 38 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: to be cute, there's more sat down there. We have 39 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: to be maximalist. Number Three is this thing about mail 40 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: in ballots, And so Senator Lee, I know you've got 41 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: a thread and you're very focused on this. Correct me 42 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. Is the great State of Utah is 43 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: that one hundred percent mail in ballots like Colorado or 44 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: you guys just use mail in balance a lot sir. 45 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 3: No, We've been using universal mail in voting and for 46 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 3: a long time. In fact, we adopt that it significantly 47 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 3: before COVID in some respects. One could argue that Utah 48 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 3: does it better than other states. Nonetheless, the risks remain. 49 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 3: The risks have proven themselves to be inherent in the 50 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 3: nature of mail in balloting. Look, you don't just print 51 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 3: out millions of ballots and send them out like feathers 52 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 3: in the wind into the US mail system. 53 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 6: There are too many potential points of of failure. 54 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 3: And so even if you're a state like Utah but 55 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 3: probably does mail in balloting better than others, doesn't mean 56 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 3: that what is safer than other states today will remain 57 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 3: safer tomorrow. Nor does it mean that it's adequately safe 58 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 3: even for today, simply because of the fact that you've 59 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 3: got chain of custody problems that amplify themselves exponentially the 60 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 3: minute you put it into the hands of the. 61 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 6: US postal system. 62 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 3: Now, the US postal system is good for what it's 63 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 3: good for, but it's not a good way to vote. 64 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 3: And I think we need to end it in Utah 65 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 3: and across the country. And I've written on that extensively 66 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 3: over the last few days on x my base might 67 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 3: leave account because I feel passionately about this. 68 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 6: I think there is way too much room for manipulation. 69 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 3: And if there's ever been a time that we need 70 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 3: to be refocused on sort of bolstering the integrity, actual 71 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 3: and perceived integrity of our voting systems, it's right now. 72 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: Why did you know you could understand the crazies in 73 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: Oregon and not the eastern part, not the eastern port Washington, 74 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: but you know, the Seattle Portland crowd. You can understand 75 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: in the takeover the blue takeover Colorado because in Colorado 76 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: there was a plan of these radical LGBTQ plus billionaires 77 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: to take Colorado and turn it from you know, a 78 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: Western state with those kind of Western values of self 79 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: reliance into a blue state, purple first and blue. You 80 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: can understand, you can understand why some of these states 81 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: have gone this. Why did Utah do? 82 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 6: I mean? 83 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: Utah is like the epitome of American values, self reliance, 84 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: self determination, you do things the classic old fashioned American way. 85 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: How did Utah, of all places, even get into the 86 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: mailand ballot business. 87 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 3: My understanding is that a decision was made at the 88 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 3: time based at least in part on the belief by 89 00:04:55,920 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 3: many Republicans that it would help enhance our ability to 90 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 3: win more state legislative seats. 91 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 6: For Republicans in the state of Utah. 92 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 3: Now, I don't know whether the statistics actually bear that 93 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 3: out or not, but regardless of whether they do, I 94 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 3: think any gain there, any actual or perceived gain there 95 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 3: is more than offset by the diminution in voter integrity. 96 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 3: In the security and safety reliability of our voting systems 97 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 3: are the ability of our voting systems to be resilient 98 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 3: as against attempts to engage in voting fraud. So regardless 99 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 3: of what those motivations might have been and what the 100 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 3: merits might have been at the time, I think the 101 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 3: time has come for us to change. And that's why 102 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 3: I'm calling on our legislature in Utah and legislatures across 103 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 3: the country to do the same. 104 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: So how are you going to lead that effort? You know, 105 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: it's interesting the founders, given that the post office was 106 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: such a major institution at the founding of the Republic, 107 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: you know, didn't come out for this. So today it's like, 108 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: why are we doing this, particularly in a system that's 109 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: so open to manipulation and corruption. How do you expect 110 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: to get this done in Utah? And then how do 111 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: you expect to take this what President Trump was so 112 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: he's going to have a very tough executive order. I 113 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: know they're working on right now. What would you like 114 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: to see in that executive order to help you on 115 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: your crusade to take get it shut down everywhere in 116 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: the country? 117 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 3: Well, first and foremost, anything coming out of the White 118 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 3: House in the form of an executive order or otherwise, 119 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 3: I think can be very helpful to us, especially in 120 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 3: so for it as it emphasizes problems that the administration 121 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 3: has uncovered ways in which these things have been abused 122 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 3: and manipulated. 123 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 6: I can't speak to what they intend to actually do 124 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 6: in the executive order. I just haven't been read in 125 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 6: on any event. 126 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 3: I really don't know what they have in mind, but 127 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 3: I know that President Trump has led the way, and 128 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 3: I think President Trump's vocal advocacy on this has been 129 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 3: very effective. 130 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 6: I know they've got. 131 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 3: Because of the messages coming from the White House and 132 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 3: from President Trump himself, we've got lawmakers who were much 133 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 3: more interested in this as a result of his direct involvement. 134 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 3: So the more of that we can get the better 135 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 3: off we're going to be. 136 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: Before I let you go, Senator Lee, you led the effort, 137 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: the great effort to support President Trump for recess or 138 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: true recess and a recess appointment. It's pretty obvious to 139 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: anyone associated with the administration is that given the lack 140 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: of manpower we've had on these billets just to get 141 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: in and I may even talk about you as attorneys, 142 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: I'm talking about just the staff, these billets in the 143 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: executive branch, that is not just people working overtime. Things 144 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: are falling through the crack for the sum reasons. We 145 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: just don't have the manpower President Trump needs. Is there 146 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: any update at all you can give us on when 147 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: we can expect I understand they may change some rules 148 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: in the margin, but the bottom line I believe is 149 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: that at some point in time we're going to have 150 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: to have John Thunan, the leadership, the McConnell back leadership 151 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: of the Senate, have President Trump's back here and have 152 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: some sort of a true recess when get recess appointments. 153 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: Any update at all on anything you've been working on 154 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: while we're on this quote unquote non recess recess. 155 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, Look, there are. 156 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 3: Members of the Senate who demanded when we left that 157 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 3: as soon as we come back into session, either the 158 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 3: first or or second week of September or back in session, 159 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 3: that we will be considering some possible rules changes that 160 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 3: would help expedite that. Now, I want to be optimistic 161 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 3: about that. Keep in mind, and actual rules change change 162 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 3: takes sixty seven votes. You can up what's called the 163 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 3: standing order, which can have the same effect as the 164 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 3: rules changed. Then that takes sixty votes. So either of 165 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 3: those options would require more than a simple majority, and 166 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 3: it would require the support of at least some Democrats. 167 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 3: If we can do that such that we can really 168 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 3: expedite a lot of President Trump's nominees, because this isn't 169 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 3: just a matter of human resources of manpower, as you say, 170 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 3: it's also having the right political appointees who are installed 171 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 3: and confirmed and can act with the legitimacy, the and 172 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 3: perimeter of Senate confirmation approval within their respective agencies. 173 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 6: So look, if we can get that done, that would 174 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 6: be great. 175 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 3: Frankly, right now, I'm not holding my breath, which is 176 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 3: why I advocated for us to either stay in session 177 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 3: until we. 178 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 6: Cleave the backlog. 179 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 1: If we actually hang on that. 180 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 6: We take a real research. 181 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 1: All the Democrats, all the Democrats right now the and 182 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: are looking at Gavin Newsom finally getting some traction because 183 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: he's trying to mimic and trying to mimic President Trump. 184 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: Given the thirtieth of September, the timing on all this 185 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 1: madness related to the minibus, the maxibus, you know, omnibus appropriations, 186 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: all that madness that the clocks of me ticking right 187 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: with only ten or fifteen days, do you actually think 188 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: that the Senate could come? I mean, the fight for 189 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: sixty or sixty seven votes would be historic right now? 190 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: What it not? 191 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 6: So? 192 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: Because they're in a position they don't want to cooperate 193 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: with Trump. This is why the recess uppartments are important. 194 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: They don't want to cooperate with Trump on anything, and 195 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: their voters are howling. Right. You can't even have a 196 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: town hall because these crazy people will show up shouting 197 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: people down. Do you, honestly, do you actually think, because 198 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: you're a guy that's a safe pair of hands, you 199 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: actually think we could get the Senate to agree on 200 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: anything that would be a win for Trump, Sir? 201 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 3: I think it is exceptionally unlikely. The reason they're maybe 202 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 3: some sliver of hope there there may be some institutionalists 203 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 3: among the Senate Democrats who might say, look, if it's 204 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 3: going to be between this and a larger sleugh of 205 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 3: recess appointments, then maybe we out of play ball. I 206 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 3: don't think they're going to play ball, which is why 207 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 3: I think we've got to do what I think we 208 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 3: should have done in August, which is either stay in 209 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 3: sessioned until they're all done, or if we must take 210 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 3: a recess, actually recess and recess in a way that 211 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 3: allows the President to exercise his power under Article two 212 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 3: of the Constitution to fill those vacancies during a recess 213 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 3: at the Senate. 214 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 2: Center. 215 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: Mike Lee, where do people go? Your threads? Amazing? I 216 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: know you're putting up stuff all the time. Where do 217 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: people go to get to your social media to find 218 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: out more about what you're thinking? Sir? 219 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 3: It can follow my thinking on this on x at 220 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 3: based Mike Lee based Mike. 221 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: Lee, and it is quite based. It's a great Twitter feed. 222 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 1: Sarah Lee. Thank you for taking time off to join 223 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: us to day in the warm explaining this. Appreciate you. 224 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 6: Thanks so much, Steve, take care, Thank you brother, Steve Cortes. 225 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: I've got Philip Patrick with us, and actually in a 226 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: short while Edward Bolsonaro. And you know a lot of 227 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: this is coming out of the Bricks Nations and led 228 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: by Lula. Walk me through again the defense of the dollar. 229 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: I want to, because I know we got all kinds 230 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 1: of economic problems here, but go back to your coming 231 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 1: out of You're in Jackson hole right even as we speak, 232 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: uh uh. And I know the president's anticipating some acknowledgment 233 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: of a ray cut. I'm not so sure that's coming 234 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: because I think pound these guys are dug in. By 235 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: the way, what are you what you're thinking on the 236 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: rate cut? Where do you come down there? Are you 237 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 1: part of this group that says they've miscalculated where real 238 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: natural interest rates should be and that there should be 239 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: a rate cut? 240 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 2: Sir, well, listen. 241 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 7: I am, of course no fan of Powell or for 242 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 7: that matter, of the Fed on the whole. Well, however, 243 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 7: in this case, I think they're actually correct. When you 244 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 7: look at what's going on with the dollar, when you 245 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 7: look at what's going on with grocery prices, I think cutting. 246 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 2: Rates right now is dangerous. 247 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 7: If rates are going to be cut I'll tell you this. 248 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 7: It must be coincided. It must be coincident with a 249 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 7: very significant campaign to back up the dollar. That is 250 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 7: I think absolutely paramount. That is an imperative if rates 251 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 7: are going to come down, we have to try to 252 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 7: defend the dollar because part of the erosion of buying 253 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 7: power of regular Americans a big reason why they continue 254 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 7: to tell us in polling that they have tremendous economic anxiety, 255 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 7: even though they. 256 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 2: Don't know it, it's a currency issue. 257 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 7: It's because their buying power is eroding because the dollar 258 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 7: is eroting. 259 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 2: So I think this is absolutely key. And again this 260 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 2: is not my opinion. I mean, just look at the levels. 261 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 7: Look at bitcoin, look at gold, look at even the eurocurrency. 262 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 7: For all the problems of Europe, your currency is having 263 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 7: a great year against the US dollar. 264 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 2: That is not consequence free. 265 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 7: And it's again to translate it back to politics and polling. 266 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 7: It's why half of Americans give a or an F 267 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 7: grade to the administration on inflation right now. And that's 268 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 7: in Georgia, that's in a state that is leaning Republican. 269 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 7: But when we ask them to give a letter grade, 270 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 7: forty eight percent of women, forty eight percent of independence, 271 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 7: tell us they give a D or an F to 272 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 7: the administration, and that women number is very important, by 273 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 7: the way, because they are generally the CFOs of the household. 274 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 7: They tend to do more shopping, they pay the bills, 275 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 7: so they are the accounts. They're the CFOs and in 276 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 7: that regard their view is particularly important here. Now you 277 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 7: haven't said all that, Steve. Look, the FED is utterly corrupt. 278 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 7: And one of the things I'm trying to talk to 279 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 7: here in Jackson Hall. I'm trying to talk to as 280 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 7: many reporters as I can because most of the media folks. 281 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 2: Are already here, is will you please give some real 282 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 2: scrutiny to the FED. 283 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 7: I mean the fact that the FED governor is likely 284 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 7: to be imminently indicted, the fact that the last vice 285 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 7: chairman of the FED, Richard Clarida, that he had to 286 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 7: resign because he was front running during the COVID panic. 287 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 7: He was front running the FED with multimillion dollar trades. 288 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 7: I got hardly any attention from the corporate. 289 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: Media, Steep, I mean, give them some Steve, hang on 290 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: one second, short break, Philip Pats is just going to 291 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: join US America. 292 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 6: Hill America's Voice family. 293 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: Or you on Getter yet, No, what are you waiting for. 294 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 8: It's free, it's uncentered, and it's where all the biggest 295 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 8: voices in conservative media are speaking out. 296 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: Download the Getter app right now. It's totally free. It's 297 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: where I put up exclusively all of my content twenty 298 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: four hours a day. 299 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 6: You want to know what Steve Bannon's thinking, Go together. 300 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 5: That's right. 301 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 9: You can follow all of your favorites Steve Bannon, Charlie Project, 302 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 9: the Soviet and so many more. 303 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 6: Download the Getter app now. Sign up for free and 304 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 6: be part of the new Folk. 305 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: Okay, welcome back, Steve Cortez, touch points, your films, your documentaries, 306 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: polling all of it. You're gonna be at Jackson Hole. 307 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: Will be checking in with you every day as you 308 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: corral the media and information warfare and get them focused 309 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: on what's particularly the corruption of the Fed. I mean, 310 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: this is a huge deal. President Trump put out a 311 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: true social as we were coming on air to somewhere 312 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: I guess we were finishing for our pre production for 313 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: the Morning war Room, and demand did that. The governor 314 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: of the Federal Reserve, Lisa Cook a step down immediately 315 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: because she's about to be imminently indicted for mortgage fraud. 316 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: That's lovely. Yeah, so make sure get your voice is 317 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: heard there. Where do people go to follow you, sir? 318 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 7: Yes, so go to Cortes investigates dot com Coortes with 319 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 7: an S at the end all of my documentaries. This 320 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 7: article my most recent article on the economy and polling, 321 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 7: and I certainly will be posting more about the FED. 322 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 7: And yeah, I think this is even the bigger point 323 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 7: than what the FED should do with indust rates right 324 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 7: now is we need accountability and transparency from the FED. 325 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 7: This is one of the most important institutions in American life, 326 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 7: and yet they operate completely in the shadows and there's 327 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 7: almost no media scrutiny of them, despite a lot of 328 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 7: really malicious, awful and even criminal behavior. Again reminder, the 329 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 7: vice chairman of the FED, the last vice chairman, was 330 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 7: trading in massive amounts front running decisions of the FED 331 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 7: during the COVID panic. Now we have a sitting FED 332 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 7: governor who looks imminently to be indicted for mortgage fraud. 333 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 7: This is a thoroughly corrupt institution. It should be audited, 334 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 7: There should be tons of scrutiny, and I think the 335 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 7: entire board should be replaced. We need small bankers, farmers, 336 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 7: small business owners. Enough of these corrupt academics, enough people 337 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 7: with PhD from n and Columbia University who have gotten 338 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 7: almost everything wrong for decades. So if not eliminate the FED, 339 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 7: at least seriously. 340 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 2: Reform the FED. 341 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 7: And part of what I'm doing here in Jackson Hole 342 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 7: is trying to encourage these media folks. And it's not easy, Steve, 343 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 7: you know that there's stummers l but I've tried to 344 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 7: encourage these media folks to actually. 345 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: Be no, hang up, hang on it, it's not that. 346 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Most of these reporters are all English majors, 347 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: so they really don't understand it. So what to get 348 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: access in inside baseball? They give them scoops, but they 349 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: got to take the party line. That's where the Fed's like. 350 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: They call it the temple, right, It's like what happens 351 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 1: in there is kind of is like magic. It's not that. 352 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 1: And look, I'm an end the FED guy. I'm an 353 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: Andrew Jackson populist. We don't need a central bank, and 354 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: I think it's only proven to destroy the value of 355 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:14,479 Speaker 1: the currency, and it's crush working class people. Hell, they 356 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: bailed out everybody after two thousand and eight on the 357 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: working people in this country. And it's in the minutes 358 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: of the Federal Reserve. That's why the book Lords of 359 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: Easy Money is so shocking. You actually read. Oh, by 360 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: the way, their minutes are not available for a decade. 361 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: They put them in the National Archives. You can't even 362 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: read them for a decade. Effort that things corrupt and incompetent. 363 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 1: If you're corrupting on your game, maybe you can look 364 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,959 Speaker 1: over the corruption, right, but if you're corrupting a competent 365 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: it's like the French aristocracy right before the French Revolution, Right, 366 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: they learned nothing. The Bourbons learn nothing, and they forgot nothing. 367 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: That's the Federal Reserve. Steve Cortes, thank you. We'll check 368 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: back in and Jackson Hole as you're out there. Thank you, sir, 369 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: Thank you, Bot it appreciate it. So we got a 370 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 1: counter to think about. Defended doll So, Philip Patrick Gold's 371 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: been on fire for the last year. The dollar. There's 372 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 1: all kinds of questions about the dollar right now. Edward 373 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: Bossonara is going to join us here in a little while. 374 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: You know, he'll tell you they're trying to put his 375 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 1: father's on trial. They're going to put him away forever 376 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: with this corrupt judge and try to have him assassinated 377 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: in prison because Lula is never going to turn over 378 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 1: Brazil because Lula is in bed with the CCP. And 379 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 1: as you reported from when you went down and did 380 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 1: the best reporting from Rio, it's all about these bibles. 381 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: It's everything's de dollarization. They just don't want to say 382 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: it because they understand President Trump will come down on 383 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: him with another fifty percent tariff. So given that, and 384 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: I've here's from a lot of people that that gold 385 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: is at you know what thirty four hundred bucks are around, 386 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: It fluctuates a little bit. How are people supposed to 387 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 1: think about this? When Steve Cortes said, hey, look, it's 388 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 1: part of the math here, and my phone's already blowing 389 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: up from people, particularly people on fixed incomes. They're saying, hey, look, 390 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: I'm feeling that declined in the value of the dollars. 391 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: So what are people to do here and to think 392 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: through this entire mess? 393 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 9: Sir, Look, I think you've just got to understand a 394 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 9: little bit about gold. So gold's been performing very well 395 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 9: as we've seen since I've come on the show. It's 396 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 9: just been going up and up and up. Obviously a coincidence, 397 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 9: but you know I'm hearing from people, are goal prices 398 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 9: too high? And the answer I think is absolutely not. 399 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 9: You've just got to start looking at it in the 400 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 9: right way. So, first of all, for some historical context, 401 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 9: where we are today with gold prices thirty three forty 402 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 9: two and some change, This is essentially where we were 403 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 9: in the nineteen eighties. Right nineteen eighty January, after the 404 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 9: stagflationary bout of the seventies, gold peaked at around eight 405 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 9: hundred and fifty dollars an ounce. If we adjust that 406 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 9: to inflation today, that sits at around thirty three hundred. 407 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 9: So this isn't new territory in terms of prices. We 408 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 9: have to remember a few differences from the nineteen eighties 409 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 9: and today. Right back in the nineteen eighties, there were 410 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 9: options money in the bank. CDs were paying sixteen percent. 411 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 9: You could beat inflation sitting in the bank. Those options 412 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 9: just don't exist today. We also have to look at 413 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 9: gold in terms of an asset class. This is a 414 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 9: commodity that isn't like oil or wheat. Right, look at 415 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 9: with most commodities, high prices will kill demand or boost supply, 416 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 9: or they're going to do both right, and then ultimately 417 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 9: they're consumed or used up. Gold is very different. Supply 418 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 9: barely grows. It's one percent a year, regardless of what 419 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 9: happens to price, right, So price is set by those 420 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 9: who are willing to sell, not by new supply. So 421 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 9: it's a very unique commodity in that respect. And then 422 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 9: here's the big ones. Who's buying gold today. It's central banks, 423 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 9: as we've taught for the last three and a half years, 424 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 9: setting consecutive records. But people have to understand one thing 425 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 9: about gold. There is no ceiling on its price when 426 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 9: money breaks, right. We talk a lot about the dollar 427 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:13,479 Speaker 9: devaluation of the dollar d dollarization. Kenneth Rogoff said this 428 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 9: back in twenty sixteen. He said gold has no limit 429 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 9: to its price, and he's absolutely right. Look at buy 430 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 9: my Germany, right. An ounce of gold before World War 431 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 9: One was one hundred and seventy marks. Ten years later, 432 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 9: or after a hyperinflationary bout eighty seven trillion marks it 433 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 9: took to buy one ounce of gold, right. So gold 434 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 9: is a reflection of currency, and ultimately gold will go 435 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 9: as high as currency goes low. And what history has 436 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 9: shown us is there is no bottom for currency. 437 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 5: So when we talk about. 438 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 9: Dollar devaluation and why people should buy gold, this is 439 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 9: exactly why. Look at investment banks now scrambling to up 440 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 9: their predictions. Goldman, Sachs, City Group, Ubs, Bank of America 441 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 9: all say over four thousand dollars within the next six 442 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 9: to eight months. So this is a market I think 443 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 9: that will continue to move. And I'll go back to 444 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 9: what you say, don't look at gold's price, look at 445 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 9: the fundamentals driving gold. They are strengthening every single day, Steve. 446 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: That's what we try to do with the end of 447 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: the dollar empires. Just go there. It's been four years, 448 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 1: and you know, I hate to be so blunt, but 449 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: we've called this from the very beginning. And if you 450 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: go back and look at the chapters, and we try 451 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: to build this up so you understand, really back to 452 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: the beginning of the country. We go back to the foundation, 453 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: We go back how big currency was, how big terists, 454 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: the whole thing. All economics were such a part of 455 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: the founding of the nation, so much part really of 456 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: the revolution that's never really talked about. Number One most 457 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: historians just don't understand it. Currency itself was a hot 458 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: political topic. This was the rise of not just Jackson 459 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: and the populace about he wanted to get rid of 460 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: the Bank of the United States at the time, but 461 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: later William Jennings Bryan, remember, don't don't nail me to 462 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: a cross of gold. The whole thing of currency Greenback's 463 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: how we finance the Civil War. It's fascinating, but it's 464 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: important to your life today to understand it. That's what 465 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: we try to do. End of the Dollar Empire promo 466 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: code ban and Birch Gold promo code Bannon. You get it. 467 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: We got seven free installments. Philip and I are working 468 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: on a bunch of stuff now. We got an eighth 469 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: and a ninth in process. We're also going to come 470 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: out of a physical copy after Labor Day. Will tell 471 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: you about it. And more importantly, we're going to do 472 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: some other very special things that we're working on right now, 473 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you about Philip before I let 474 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 1: you go. One of the things that President Trump, you know, 475 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 1: he's whipping votes on big beautiful bill. They didn't give 476 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: him a recess, so he doesn't have his staff, you know, 477 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: the people in the second and third tier people that 478 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: you need to actually make things happens. He's cleaned up Washington, 479 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: d C. I think in seventy two hours or in 480 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 1: the process of it. So many things going on, and 481 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: now he's, you know, doing the negotiation from peace in 482 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: Ukraine the same time they're coming back to him on 483 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 1: the Gaza situation. I mean, the guy's got any one 484 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: of these problems with a broken a previous present. One 485 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: thing I'm most concerned about is I don't think the 486 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: House and the Senate and other surrogates are doing enough 487 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 1: to go out and sell the big beautiful bill and 488 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: the supply side part of it. Give me a minute 489 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: on that. We've got about ninety seconds. Give me a 490 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: minute on that, about about just the process of selling 491 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: the big beautiful bill to the American people, the details 492 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 1: of it. 493 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 9: I think people need to understand that austerity is not 494 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 9: going to do the job here. The only way to 495 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 9: do this is to grow the economy and to do 496 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 9: it at a rapid pace. I agree with Maltpout. I mean, 497 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 9: the bill is absolutely important. We need a good environment 498 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 9: for growth. I think it's why the federers do have 499 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 9: to lower rates a little bit. I was torn listening 500 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 9: to Malpass and Cortes because I understand both sides of it. 501 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 9: But what we need right now is an injection of growth. 502 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 9: We need to do it fast. Resident Trump has done 503 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 9: an incredible job, even I've been surprised with the amount 504 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 9: of revenue he's generated through tariffs, but also the amount 505 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 9: of investment he's attracted to the United States. But we 506 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 9: need to push his bill forward. At the end of 507 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 9: the day, as you say, he's dealing with so many issues. 508 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 9: I don't think there's many people on the face of 509 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 9: this earth that could balance. Now we've got a trust 510 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 9: President Trump. We've got to let him do what he 511 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 9: does best and try and put some rocket fuel on 512 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 9: this economy because it needs it badly. 513 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: Now take your phone out and texts Bannon ba nn 514 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: O at nine eight nine eight ninety eight. You get 515 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: your free access to the Ultimate Guide, which is totally 516 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 1: free of investing in golden pressures wells in the Age 517 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: of Trump, and you get to Philip patrickan team. Philip, 518 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: I know it's early out where you are. Thank you 519 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: so much for joining us. Look forward to seeing you 520 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: talking about the FED maybe later in the week. Philip 521 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 1: Patrick or Birch Goal short commercial break back in a moment. 522 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 5: Here's your host, Stephen K Maan. 523 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: Like I said, I want to thank the team over 524 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: at Birch Gold. Make sure if you haven't gotten the 525 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: end of the Dollar Empire, Birch Gold dot com promo 526 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: code Bannon into the Dollar Empire totally free gets your speed, 527 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: noenclature process, all of it. You need to understand that, 528 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: particularly our next guest, Edward of Bolson. Edward to thank 529 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 1: you since Lula is trying to lead the de dollarization 530 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 1: effort because he hates the United States. He's a Marxist, 531 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: he's in business with I'm a partner of the Chinese 532 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: Chemist Party, he might say, a junior partner of the 533 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: Chinese Commists Party. Edward, our big announcement coming out of 534 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: State there day, walk us through the latest of where 535 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: the sanctions are, how the United States, this standoff between 536 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: the United States and these demons in your home country Brazil. 537 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 8: Sirs, who have to think a lot now, President Trump, 538 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 8: he's the greatest leader ever in the history of the 539 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 8: humanity in my opinion, and he started to you giving 540 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 8: some pressure in the financial system of Zio with the 541 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 8: fifty percent tariffs and clearly saying that this is not 542 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 8: only because commercial trade issues, but also because Brazil is 543 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 8: leaving a huge institutional crisis and the Brazilian establishment is 544 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 8: answering that sending Jerry Bolsonata, for example, beginning Alijhan Jimourries 545 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 8: discrazy justice from the Supreme Court imposing in an ankle bracelet, 546 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 8: and in the end of this day, Trump took eight 547 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 8: visas of the eleven justice of the Brazilian Supreme Court, 548 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 8: and then alejanjimour Iz, doubling down again, send the Bosonata 549 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 8: to house arrest, and Trump sanctioned at Aleshenjimuriz with all 550 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 8: VAX sanctions. 551 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 2: So now we are in a point where a. 552 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 8: Partner of Aleshanji Moris inside of the Brazilian Supreme Court 553 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 8: is deciding, is saying that the Brazilian banks should not 554 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 8: follow the all VAX sanctions. What they did not understand 555 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 8: that the Magniski Global Act is not an American law 556 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 8: that you know, United States pretend to enforce in other countries. 557 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 2: It is only a law. 558 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 8: Saying that, okay, if you are a bank and you 559 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 8: want to have access to the financial market of the 560 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 8: United States, you have to accomplish with the old fact 561 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 8: list of sanctions and then you'll have ales. So the 562 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 8: banks of Brazil nowadays they have to decide in following 563 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 8: the Supreme Court or following the old. 564 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 6: Sanctioned list. 565 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 8: And I do believe that they do not have other options, 566 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 8: and they have to follow the Magninski Global Act law 567 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 8: because other way they are going to bankrupt, because you 568 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 8: cannot survive as a bank without access to the greatest 569 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 8: financial market. 570 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 2: In the world, which it is in the United States. 571 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: Is there anything Is there anything else we can do 572 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: except cutting off all imports from Brazil? I mean, what's that? 573 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: Are there any other steps that President Trump? Secretaries God 574 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: beston who you met? I put your picture up on 575 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: on my social media, uh, Rubio, because people understand President 576 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: Trump is very focused on this. Scott Besson's very focused 577 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: in the fact when Scott Secretary Besant, our old colleague, 578 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: met with Edwater, he canceled the meetings with the finance minister. 579 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: Rubio is all over this. You have many people that 580 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: are all over So is there anything else for our 581 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: audience to be thinking about that can still be done 582 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: to assist your father in the people in Brazil we 583 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: love so much. 584 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 8: Yes, First the press in Brazil they were they were 585 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 8: saying that the Brazilians are not applying correctly. I mean 586 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 8: the banks are not applying correctly the Global Magnee Act, 587 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 8: which means that aes he sanctionment, but he is still 588 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 8: holding some banking. 589 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 6: Accounts in Brazil. 590 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 8: And so this is the first asking that we did 591 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 8: for a Secretarist Scott Best to properly inform or enforce 592 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 8: the Global Magnis Act against Amalies. And now that have 593 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 8: other justice in the Supreme Court support al Ice, he 594 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 8: also can be sanctioneded because through the American law of 595 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 8: the Global Magninis Act, it says that does a matter 596 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 8: who work in support of the sanction at this person 597 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 8: is also going to be sanctioned. So this is the 598 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 8: other point, and we are increasing the pressure to accomplish 599 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 8: with the letter of President Trump to President Lula da Silva, 600 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 8: which in the first paragrapher talks about the law fare 601 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 8: and the persecution against Jeribo Sonata, my father, our family 602 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 8: and our supporters. So to answer that we need to 603 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 8: approve what we have in the Congress we call the 604 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 8: Amnesty Bill is a part of them coming from the Congress 605 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 8: and we do need that not only to release Jeribo 606 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 8: Sonato from jail and let me go back to my country, Brazil, 607 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,959 Speaker 8: but also to have a full participation of the opposition 608 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 8: in the next year election. 609 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: Yeap, okay, we're gonna be all over that. Edward. Your 610 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: social media, how do people keep up with you? We're 611 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: all over the ambassy bill. We'll have you back on 612 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: next week to go through it. Where do people go 613 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: on social media to keep up minute by minute on 614 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: this great fight for freedom in the great nation of Brazil. 615 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 8: Sir, you can go through Bolsonato SP reminding you Americans 616 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 8: that we block at the Rumbo in Brazil, so we 617 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 8: do not have run in Brazil, but all other social medias. 618 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 8: I am Bosnato ASP. Thank you very much for this 619 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 8: opportunity against Steve. You are doing a great work in 620 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:44,719 Speaker 8: favor of the freedom in Brazil. 621 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,959 Speaker 1: Edward. The audience loves you, your family, the nation, the 622 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: move the bols and our movement down there. It's incredible. 623 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: This is a fight that everybody is engaged in, so 624 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: thank you so much, sir. I want to thank Secretary 625 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: of Treachery Scott A. Beston. Want to thank Secretary of 626 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: State Marco Rubio that have made this a priority. Also 627 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: want to think the great Vince Haley over the Mexic 628 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: Policy Council. Vince Haleey a great man, working NonStop over 629 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: there also Darren Beatty over at State. Just an incredible team, 630 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: quite controversial to make America Healthy Again movement in MAGA. 631 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: If we're combined, nothing can beat us. Gary Breckatt joins 632 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: us now from MAHA Action. Gary explained this audience, this 633 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 1: leak of the MAHA report, what's going on? Because our 634 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: audience is quite dedicate. We love Bobby Kennedy, we love 635 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: what he's trying to accomplish. We just had the guys 636 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: on last week about the MR and A. But there's 637 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: some controversy about this leaked report. Where do we stay, 638 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: you know better than anybody. Where do we stand with this? 639 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 10: Well, I mean you have to look at the traction 640 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 10: that Bobby's had so far. I mean, you're uprooting decades 641 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 10: of deep state corruption. You know, the corruption and our 642 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 10: nutritional supply, the cup corruption and our nutritional research. You know, 643 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 10: when you just take a step back and you looked 644 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 10: at seventy four percent of our nutritional research is funded 645 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 10: by big food and big pharma. Right, this is how 646 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 10: you get a food pyramid that says that lucky charms 647 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 10: is more nutritious than grass fed steak. And if you 648 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 10: look at trying to uproot this level of corruption and 649 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 10: our food supply and our nutritional research and our public 650 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 10: policy in the way that we protect chemical companies, you know, 651 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 10: look at Senate bill all right, sorry, a House Appropriations 652 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 10: Bill four fifty three, which is a bill that would 653 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 10: give broad immunity to chemical companies like Keemchina that make paraquat, 654 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 10: which is illegal in China but then sold into the 655 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 10: United States and being lobbied for broad protections in the 656 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 10: United States against consumer revolt for harm. And this is 657 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 10: not just broad protection for chemical companies, it's broad protection 658 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:46,720 Speaker 10: for chemical companies against known harm, meaning knowingly causing harm, 659 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 10: not just inadvertently causing harm, but knowingly causing harm. Companies 660 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 10: like Bayer that make roundup in glycosate, which is a 661 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,720 Speaker 10: German company, not even a US company, that import these, 662 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 10: that import these pesticides, herbicides and deicides and poisons and 663 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 10: heavily spray our crops in the United States, but they're 664 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,280 Speaker 10: not allowed to do this in their own mother country. 665 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 10: When Bobby Kennedy starts to stand up to this kind 666 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:16,280 Speaker 10: of corruption, you see this kind of malfeasance in the narrative. 667 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 10: So the report was leaked. You'll have people on both 668 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 10: sides the reports, some saying, hey, it doesn't go far enough, 669 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 10: some saying it goes way too far, depending on what 670 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 10: side of the aisle that you're on. But the truth 671 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 10: is that the milestones that Bobby has accomplished and the 672 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 10: MAHA movement has accomplished are not only here to stay, 673 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 10: but they're picking up steam and momentum, moms across America 674 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 10: and chronic disease. 675 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: Ay or a second, because the MAGA movement is one 676 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 1: ndred percent down with Bobby and what's trying to happen. 677 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 1: I mean, this audience is the one that would fixed 678 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 1: span Nets on his confirmation. So yeah, I think and 679 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: I want to make sure the audience understands this. This 680 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: is why we want to have you on today. There 681 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: was some confusion, particularly way the media said that Bobby 682 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 1: and the team had already been compromised, that the MAHA 683 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: report that was leaked. What you just said right there, right, 684 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 1: because you know we had Nicole on. She did a 685 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: great job about Big agg and the big chemical companies. 686 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: But the report, at least the way it was spun 687 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,720 Speaker 1: by some media outlets, that Bobby Kennedy and the MAHA 688 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 1: team had blinked that you weren't it wasn't going to 689 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 1: be aggressive enough in some of the areas you just 690 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,760 Speaker 1: talked about. Number one. That's that's a narrative coming from 691 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: big Pharma, Big AG who want to you know, disembow 692 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: Bobby Kennedy and the team right now, Can you set 693 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: it straight that that's not the fact that the team 694 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: over the team over there is just as focused on. 695 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: Don't believe the spin of what came out on this 696 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:42,280 Speaker 1: league report. 697 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 10: Do not believe the spin about what came out on 698 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 10: this league report. Don't believe that there's any daylight between 699 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 10: President Trump and Bobby Kennedy. Bobby Kennedy prayed for twenty 700 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 10: years to be in the position he's in right now, 701 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 10: to have the kind of influence on public policy that 702 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 10: he's having. He is fully on board with Donald Trump's 703 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 10: He has no intention of running for president in twenty 704 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 10: twenty eight, inspite some of that creative narrative. You know, 705 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 10: the only way to stop this movement would be to 706 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 10: drive a wedge between the White House and Health and 707 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 10: Human Services, or between Bobby Kennedy and Donald Trump, and 708 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 10: it's just simply not going to happen. 709 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 2: You know, this is as much a spiritual. 710 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,879 Speaker 10: Revolution as it is a revolution about corruption, and people 711 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 10: are going to choose to be on one side of 712 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 10: the aisle or the other. The challenge for them now 713 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 10: is that the court of public opinion is shifting. It 714 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 10: is it is going to become impossibly, it's going to 715 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 10: become impossible to overcome the narrative of being on the 716 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:44,320 Speaker 10: opposite side of childhood cancers, max fast vaccinations, broad immunity 717 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 10: for chemical companies at the expense of American citizens. And 718 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 10: so you're seeing the flailing, you know, the absolute panic 719 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 10: with their backs against the wall, where they can't counter 720 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 10: the narrative directly. Nobody can raise their hand and say, hey, 721 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 10: I want to get physical education out of the public 722 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 10: school system. We want more petroleum based food dies you know, 723 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,839 Speaker 10: in our in our in our food, more glycasate, more 724 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:11,319 Speaker 10: more genetically modified foods, more round up, more paraquat. So 725 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 10: what they have to do is they have to try 726 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 10: to attack the personality, which is Bobby Kennedy and say, hey, 727 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 10: as agenda is going too far, it's infringing on our 728 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 10: freedom of choice, none of which is true. You know, 729 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 10: you'll still have the freedom to choose all of the 730 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,439 Speaker 10: all of the foods that you had to choose five 731 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 10: years ago. It's just that you will not be exposed to, 732 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 10: you know, the types of poisons that are infecting our 733 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 10: food supply. I mean, somebody has to ask the question, 734 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 10: how is it that we spend five trillion dollars a 735 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 10: year on healthcare and we are the sickest, fattest, most 736 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 10: diseaser in the nation, in the world. We lead the 737 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 10: world in morbid obesity, type two diabetes, multiple chronic disease 738 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 10: in a single biome, infant mortality, and maternal mortality. And 739 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 10: everybody wants to just raise their hand and say it's 740 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 10: working just fine. Don't look over here at the statistics, 741 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 10: look over here at that, you know, at the price 742 00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 10: and the availability of foods, and and so this this 743 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 10: report was purposely leaked. There are some areas that I 744 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,240 Speaker 10: would agree have not yet gone far enough, but reports 745 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 10: not final. There are some areas that people would argue 746 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,800 Speaker 10: have gone too far, but Bobby has towed the line, 747 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,760 Speaker 10: you know, masterfully on getting a lot of these companies, 748 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,840 Speaker 10: chemical companies, agricultural companies, food companies, and even pharma to 749 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,360 Speaker 10: come to the table ahead of these legislative changes. And 750 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,879 Speaker 10: at the state level, he's succeeding in such a way 751 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 10: that we've created a patchwork of framework. Then now companies 752 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 10: have to try to work around. So it's becoming less 753 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 10: expensive to conform than it is to fight this agenda. 754 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 10: So I think that, you know, the fight is only 755 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 10: just begun. You know, you're talking about an industry with 756 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 10: a multi trillion dollar war chest also that has a 757 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 10: media narrative that's very cooperative to their messaging. 758 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 2: But I don't think it's going to succeed. I mean, 759 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 2: it's becoming. 760 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 10: Very unpopular for politicians to be on the other side 761 00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 10: of the MAHA movement. 762 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 1: Can you hang over a second, because I want to 763 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 1: hold you through a commercial break. You just talked about. 764 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 1: The one thing I think's even changed from twenty sixteen 765 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 1: when President Trump first came in is the consolidation of 766 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 1: some of these industry big ag big pharma, you know, 767 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 1: big finance, big tech, that the concentration of power and 768 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 1: their brutal use of lobbyists and law firms. I mean 769 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 1: the concentration of power. So somebody like Bobby Kennedy, which 770 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,279 Speaker 1: was tough enough to fight a decade ago, to fight 771 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,800 Speaker 1: it now, is almost, you know, incomprehensible about the pressure 772 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 1: that's on every day. So we're going to take a 773 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 1: short commercial break home titleck dot com promo code Steve 774 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 1: the one million dollar triple lock protection. You get twenty 775 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 1: four hour coverage alerts in the middle of the knife 776 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 1: anybody's messing with your title, and a one million dollar 777 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 1: restoration project if all else fails. Every dream you've ever 778 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 1: had is in that home. Make sure it doesn't turn 779 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 1: into a nightmare by somebody getting their hands on your title. 780 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 1: Short commercial break. This is the primal screen of a 781 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 1: dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going to 782 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 1: medieval on these people. You've not got a free shot. 783 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 1: All these networks lying about the people, the people have 784 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 1: had a belly full of it. I know you don't 785 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 1: like hearing that. I know you tried to do everything. 786 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 6: In the world to stop that, but you're not going 787 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 6: to stop it. 788 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:23,720 Speaker 1: It's going to happen. 789 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 7: And where do people like that go to share the 790 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 7: big line, Mega Media. 791 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,840 Speaker 1: I wish in my soul, I wish that any of 792 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 1: these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my 793 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,320 Speaker 1: task and what is my purpose? 794 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 4: If that answer is to save my country, this country will. 795 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:44,359 Speaker 1: Be saved war. 796 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 5: Use your host, Stephen k Maan. 797 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 1: It's Wednesday, twenty August, Year of Our Lord, twenty twenty five. 798 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,840 Speaker 1: Thank you for being here for the second hour of 799 00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 1: the morning edition. We're also going to be on fire 800 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 1: in the afternoon edition. We got so much four as 801 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 1: the day we came and wedge it all in. I've 802 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 1: got Philip Patrick, I got Steve Cortez. I'm gonna get 803 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,280 Speaker 1: back to Steve Courtez in a moment and bringing Patrick after. 804 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,839 Speaker 1: Just after. We've got Senator Mike Lee by phone. And 805 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 1: I need to take certainly because this goes back to 806 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:22,360 Speaker 1: my open about twenty twenty six and beyond. Cenator Mike Lee, 807 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,399 Speaker 1: thank you, and it's so great to have you here 808 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 1: because we always look to you to help us out 809 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 1: with the constitution and the constitutionality of things. This whole 810 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 1: the three aspects of everything that's going on. One the 811 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:40,279 Speaker 1: present calling for a mid decade census that's done right, 812 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 1: done correctly downe of illegal aliens, but also don't have 813 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,879 Speaker 1: all the problems that the Commerce Department had last time. 814 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,880 Speaker 1: Also the redishuting fight. And folks, I think we're getting 815 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 1: very close to a vote in Texas, but it's not 816 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 1: good enough. We need a Texas ten, not the five 817 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 1: that was originally there. Because the Democrats try to be cute, 818 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 1: there's more seats there. We have to be maximalist. Number 819 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 1: three is this thing about mail in ballots, and so 820 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 1: Senator Lee, I know you've got a thread and you're 821 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 1: very focused on this. Correct me if I'm wrong. Is 822 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 1: the great State of Utah is that one hundred percent 823 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,839 Speaker 1: mail in ballots like Colorado? Or you guys just use 824 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,399 Speaker 1: mail in balance a lot, sir. 825 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 3: No, We've been using universal mail in voting and for 826 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,440 Speaker 3: a long time. In fact, we adopted it significantly before COVID. 827 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 3: In some respects, one could argue that Utah does it 828 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:38,760 Speaker 3: better than other states. Nonetheless, the risks remain. The risks 829 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 3: have proven themselves to be inherent in the nature of 830 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,360 Speaker 3: mail in balloting. Look, you don't just print out millions 831 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 3: of ballots and send them out like feathers in the 832 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 3: wind into the US mail system, there are too many 833 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 3: potential points as of failure, And so even if you're 834 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 3: a state like Utah but probably does mail in balloting 835 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 3: better than others, it doesn't mean that what is safer 836 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 3: than other states today will remain safer tomorrow, Nor does 837 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,360 Speaker 3: it mean that it's adequately safe even for today, simply 838 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,640 Speaker 3: because of the fact that you've got chain of custody 839 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:20,160 Speaker 3: problems that amplify themselves exponentially the minute you put it 840 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 3: into the hands of the. 841 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 6: US postal system. 842 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 3: Now, the US postal system is good for what it's 843 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 3: good for, but it's not a good way to vote, 844 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 3: and I think we need to end it in Utah 845 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 3: and across the country. 846 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,799 Speaker 6: And I've written on that extensively over the. 847 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,279 Speaker 3: Last few days on x My base might leave account 848 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 3: because I feel passionately about this. 849 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,759 Speaker 6: I think there is way too much room for manipulation. 850 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 3: And if there's ever been a time that we need 851 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 3: to be refocused on sort of bolstering the integrity, actual 852 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,920 Speaker 3: and perceived integrity of our voting systems, it's right now. 853 00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,799 Speaker 1: Why did you know you could understand the crazies in 854 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 1: Oregon and not the eastern part, not the eastern port Washington, 855 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,880 Speaker 1: but you know the Seattle Portland crowd. You can understand 856 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,480 Speaker 1: in the takeover the Blue takeover Colorado, because in Colorado 857 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:17,239 Speaker 1: there was a plan of these radical LGBTQ plus billionaires 858 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 1: to take Colorado and turn it from you know, a 859 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,800 Speaker 1: Western state with those kind of Western values of self 860 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,719 Speaker 1: reliance into a blue state, purple first and blue. You 861 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 1: can understand, you can understand why some of these states 862 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 1: have gone this. Why did Utah do it? I mean, 863 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:38,160 Speaker 1: Utah is like the epitome of American values, self reliance, 864 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 1: self determination, you do things the classic old fashioned American way. 865 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 1: How did Utah, of all places, even get into the 866 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:47,640 Speaker 1: mailand ballot business. 867 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 3: My understanding is that a decision was made at the time, 868 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,960 Speaker 3: based at least in part on the belief by many 869 00:45:56,040 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 3: Republicans that it would help enhance our ability to win 870 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 3: more state legislative seats for Republicans in the state of Utah. Now, 871 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,319 Speaker 3: I don't know whether the statistics actually bear that out 872 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 3: or not, but regardless of whether they do, I think 873 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 3: any gain there, any actual or perceived gain there is 874 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:24,840 Speaker 3: more than offset by the diminution in voter integrity, in 875 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 3: the security and safety reliability of our voting systems are 876 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 3: the ability of our voting systems to be resilient as 877 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:39,560 Speaker 3: against attempts to engage in voting fraud. So, regardless of 878 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:43,200 Speaker 3: what those motivations might have been and what the merits 879 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 3: might have been at the time, I think the time 880 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 3: has come for us to change. And that's why I'm 881 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 3: calling on our legislature in Utah and legislatures across the 882 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 3: country to do the same. 883 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 1: So how are you going to lead that effort? You know, 884 00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 1: it's interesting the founders, given that the post Office was 885 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:03,400 Speaker 1: such a major institution at the founding of the Republic, 886 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,920 Speaker 1: you know, didn't come out for this. So today it's like, 887 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,200 Speaker 1: why are we doing this, particularly in a system that's 888 00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:14,360 Speaker 1: so open to manipulation and corruption? How do you expect 889 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,520 Speaker 1: to get this done in Utah? And then how do 890 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 1: you expect to take this what President Trump was so 891 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,080 Speaker 1: he's going to have a very tough executive order. I 892 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,440 Speaker 1: know they're working on right now. What would you like 893 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,440 Speaker 1: to see in that executive order to help you on 894 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,400 Speaker 1: your crusade to take get it shut down everywhere in 895 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:28,880 Speaker 1: the country. 896 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,439 Speaker 3: Well, first and foremost, anything coming out of the White 897 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,880 Speaker 3: House in the form of an executive order or otherwise, 898 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,160 Speaker 3: I think can be very helpful to us, especially in 899 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 3: so for it as it emphasizes problems that the administration 900 00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:47,720 Speaker 3: has uncovered ways in which these things have been abused 901 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,880 Speaker 3: and manipulated. I can't speak to what they intend to 902 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,879 Speaker 3: actually do in the executive order. I just haven't been 903 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,880 Speaker 3: read in on any event. I really don't know what 904 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,959 Speaker 3: they have in mind, but I know that Trump has 905 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,880 Speaker 3: led the way, and I think President Trump's vocal advocacy 906 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,480 Speaker 3: on this has been very effective. 907 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:11,720 Speaker 6: I know they've got because of the messages. 908 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 3: Coming from the White House and from President Trump himself, 909 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 3: we've got lawmakers who are much more interested in this 910 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,359 Speaker 3: as a result of his direct involvement. So the more 911 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,359 Speaker 3: of that we can get, the better off we're going 912 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,680 Speaker 3: to be. 913 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,280 Speaker 1: Before I let you go, Senator Lee, you led the effort, 914 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,920 Speaker 1: the great effort to support President Trump for recess or 915 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:38,040 Speaker 1: true recess and a recess appointment. It's pretty obvious to 916 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,839 Speaker 1: anyone associated with the administration is that given the lack 917 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,399 Speaker 1: of manpower we've had on these billets just to get 918 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 1: in and I may even talking about you as attorneys, 919 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,239 Speaker 1: I'm talking about just the staff. These billets in the 920 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:53,080 Speaker 1: executive branch. That is not just people working overtime. Things 921 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,840 Speaker 1: are falling through the crack for the sum reason, we 922 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 1: just don't have the manpower President Trump needs. Is there 923 00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 1: any update at all you can give us on when 924 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,239 Speaker 1: we can expect I understand they may change some rules 925 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,279 Speaker 1: in the margin, but the bottom line I believe is 926 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,319 Speaker 1: that at some point in time we're going to have 927 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:13,279 Speaker 1: to have John Thunan the leadership, the McConnell back leadership 928 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:17,160 Speaker 1: of the Senate, have President Trump's back here and have 929 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,040 Speaker 1: some sort of a true recess when get recess appointments, 930 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,319 Speaker 1: Any update at all on anything you've been working on 931 00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:27,520 Speaker 1: while we're on this quote unquote non recess recess. 932 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:35,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, there are members of the Senate who demanded 933 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:39,359 Speaker 3: when we left that as soon as we come back 934 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,239 Speaker 3: into session, either the first or or second week of 935 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:46,080 Speaker 3: September or back in session, that we will be considering 936 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:51,279 Speaker 3: some possible rules changes that would help expedite that. Now, 937 00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,840 Speaker 3: I want to be optimistic about that. Keep in mind, 938 00:49:55,880 --> 00:50:00,279 Speaker 3: and actual rules change change takes sixty seven votes. What's 939 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,239 Speaker 3: called a standing order, which can have the same effect 940 00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:04,640 Speaker 3: as a rules changed. 941 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,360 Speaker 6: Then that takes sixty votes. 942 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,440 Speaker 3: So either of those options would require more than a 943 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,480 Speaker 3: simple majority, and it would require the support of at 944 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:14,640 Speaker 3: least some Democrats. 945 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,000 Speaker 6: If we can do that such that. 946 00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:18,720 Speaker 3: We can really act, but ide a lot of President 947 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:22,360 Speaker 3: Trump's nominees, because this isn't just a matter of human 948 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:26,360 Speaker 3: resources of manpower, as you say, it's also having the 949 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,319 Speaker 3: right political appointees who are installed and confirmed and can 950 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:34,279 Speaker 3: act with the legitimacy, the and perimeter of Senate confirmation 951 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,279 Speaker 3: approval within their respective agencies. 952 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,480 Speaker 6: So look, if we can get that done, that'd be great. 953 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,279 Speaker 3: Frankly, right now, I'm not a holding my breath, which 954 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,279 Speaker 3: is why I advocated for us to either stay in 955 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:54,120 Speaker 3: session until we clean the backlog, hang on if we 956 00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,600 Speaker 3: actually hang on that we take a real research. 957 00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,719 Speaker 1: All the Democrats, all the Democrats right now in the 958 00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,720 Speaker 1: center are looking at Gavin Newsom finally getting some traction 959 00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,920 Speaker 1: because he's trying to mimic and trying to mimic President Trump. 960 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,640 Speaker 1: Given the thirtieth of September, the timing on all this 961 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:20,720 Speaker 1: madness related to the minibus, the maxibus, you know, omnibus appropriations, 962 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,360 Speaker 1: all that madness that the clocksm be ticking right with 963 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,400 Speaker 1: only ten or fifteen days. Do you actually think that 964 00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,360 Speaker 1: the Senate could come? I mean, the fight for sixty 965 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 1: or sixty seven votes would be historic right now? Whatd 966 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:31,719 Speaker 1: it not? 967 00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:31,840 Speaker 6: So? 968 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,360 Speaker 1: Because they're in a position they don't want to cooperate 969 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,480 Speaker 1: with Trump. This is why the recess uppoinments so important. 970 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,560 Speaker 1: They don't want to cooperate with Trump on anything, and 971 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:43,000 Speaker 1: their voters are howling. Right. You can't even have a 972 00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,000 Speaker 1: town hall because these crazy people will show up shouting 973 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,240 Speaker 1: people down. Do you, honestly, do you actually think, because 974 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 1: you're a guy that's a safe pair of hands, you 975 00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,279 Speaker 1: actually think we could get the Senate to agree on 976 00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 1: anything that would be a win for Trump? 977 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:55,480 Speaker 6: Sir? 978 00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,880 Speaker 3: I think it is exceptionally unlikely. The reason there may 979 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:03,040 Speaker 3: be some sliver of hope there there may be some 980 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:06,759 Speaker 3: institutionalists among the Senate Democrats who might say, look, if 981 00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,120 Speaker 3: it's going to be between this and a larger sleugh 982 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:14,480 Speaker 3: of recess appointments, than maybe we out of play ball. 983 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,360 Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to play ball, which is 984 00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,319 Speaker 3: why I think we've got to do what I think 985 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,640 Speaker 3: we should have done in August, which is either stay 986 00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,120 Speaker 3: in sessioned until they're all done or if we must 987 00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,200 Speaker 3: take a recess, actually recess and recess in a way 988 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:30,640 Speaker 3: that allows the President to exercise his power under Article 989 00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,360 Speaker 3: two of the Constitution to fill those vacancies during a 990 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:34,759 Speaker 3: recess of the Senate. 991 00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:37,560 Speaker 2: Center. 992 00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,120 Speaker 1: Mike Lee, where do people go your threads? Amazing? I 993 00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:41,520 Speaker 1: know you're putting up stuff all the time. Where do 994 00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:43,719 Speaker 1: people go to get to your social media to find 995 00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,520 Speaker 1: out more about what you're thinking? Sir? 996 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:49,920 Speaker 3: It can follow my thinking on this on x AT 997 00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:54,560 Speaker 3: based Mike Lee, based Mike Lee, and it. 998 00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:58,719 Speaker 1: Is quite based. It's a great Twitter feed, Sarah Lee. 999 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,759 Speaker 1: Thank you for taking time off to join us day 1000 00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,839 Speaker 1: in the warm explaining this. Appreciate you. Thanks so much, Steve, 1001 00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:12,240 Speaker 1: take care. Thank you, brother, Steve Cortes. I've got Philip 1002 00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,439 Speaker 1: Patrick with us and actually in a short while Edward 1003 00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,279 Speaker 1: of Bolsonaro. And you know a lot of this is 1004 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,720 Speaker 1: coming out of the Bricks Nations and led by Lula. 1005 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:21,480 Speaker 10: Uh. 1006 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,920 Speaker 1: Walk me through again the defense of the dollar. I 1007 00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:25,400 Speaker 1: want to, because I know we got all kinds of 1008 00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,400 Speaker 1: economic problems here, but go back to your coming out 1009 00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:32,040 Speaker 1: of You're in Jackson hole right even as we speak, 1010 00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:38,120 Speaker 1: uh uh. And I know the President's anticipating some acknowledgment 1011 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,240 Speaker 1: of a ray cut. I'm not so sure that's coming 1012 00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,440 Speaker 1: because I think pound these guys are dug in. By 1013 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,120 Speaker 1: the way, what are you what you're thinking on the 1014 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,080 Speaker 1: raate cut? Where do you come down there? Are you 1015 00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:51,439 Speaker 1: part of this group that says they've miscalculated where real 1016 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,960 Speaker 1: natural interest rates should be and that there should be 1017 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:54,560 Speaker 1: a rate cut? 1018 00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,040 Speaker 2: Sir, well, listen. 1019 00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,200 Speaker 7: I am, of course no fan of Powell, or for 1020 00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,680 Speaker 7: that matter, of the Fed on the hole. However, in 1021 00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,640 Speaker 7: this case, I think they're actually correct. When you look 1022 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,200 Speaker 7: at what's going on with the dollar, when you look 1023 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,640 Speaker 7: at what's going on with grocery prices, I think cutting. 1024 00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:08,600 Speaker 2: Rates right now is dangerous. 1025 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:10,920 Speaker 7: If rates are going to be cut, I'll tell you this, 1026 00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:14,839 Speaker 7: it must be coincided. It must be coincident with a 1027 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,600 Speaker 7: very significant campaign to back up the dollar. That is 1028 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,680 Speaker 7: I think absolutely paramount. That is an imperative if rates 1029 00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,120 Speaker 7: are going to come down, we have to try to 1030 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,440 Speaker 7: defend the dollar because part of the erosion of buying 1031 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,400 Speaker 7: power of regular Americans a big reason why they continue 1032 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:33,359 Speaker 7: to tell us in polling that they have tremendous economic anxiety. 1033 00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,120 Speaker 2: Even though they don't know it. It's a currency issue. 1034 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,120 Speaker 7: It's because their buying power is eroding because the dollar 1035 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,520 Speaker 7: is eroting. So I think this is absolutely key. And 1036 00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,200 Speaker 7: again this is not my opinion. I mean, just look 1037 00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,879 Speaker 7: at the levels. Look at bitcoin, look at gold, look 1038 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:45,440 Speaker 7: at even. 1039 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:45,920 Speaker 2: The euro currency. 1040 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,319 Speaker 7: For all the problems of Europe, your currency is having 1041 00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,280 Speaker 7: a great year against the US dollar. 1042 00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,200 Speaker 2: That is not consequence free. And it's again to. 1043 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,000 Speaker 7: Translate it back to politics and polling. It's why half 1044 00:54:56,040 --> 00:55:01,640 Speaker 7: of Americans give A or an F gradeministration on inflation 1045 00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,040 Speaker 7: right now. And that's in Georgia. That's in a state 1046 00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,520 Speaker 7: that is leaning Republican. But when we ask them to 1047 00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,959 Speaker 7: give a letter grade, forty eight percent of women, forty 1048 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,200 Speaker 7: eight percent of independence tell us they give a D 1049 00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,399 Speaker 7: or an F to the administration. And that women number 1050 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,040 Speaker 7: is very important, by the way, because they are generally 1051 00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,520 Speaker 7: the CFOs of the household. They tend to do more shopping, 1052 00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,879 Speaker 7: they pay the bills, so they are the accounts, they're 1053 00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,960 Speaker 7: the CFOs, and in that regard their view is particularly 1054 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,120 Speaker 7: important here now, having sett all that, Steve, look, the 1055 00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,000 Speaker 7: FED is utterly corrupt and one of the things I'm 1056 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:28,719 Speaker 7: trying to talk to here in Jackson Hall. 1057 00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:29,319 Speaker 2: I'm trying to talk to. 1058 00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:30,920 Speaker 7: As many reporters as I can, because most of the 1059 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:32,200 Speaker 7: media folks are already. 1060 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,680 Speaker 2: Here is Will you please give some real scrutiny to 1061 00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:35,080 Speaker 2: the FED? 1062 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:36,879 Speaker 7: I mean the fact that the FED governor is likely 1063 00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,759 Speaker 7: to be imminently indicted. The fact that the last vice 1064 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,120 Speaker 7: chairman of the FED, Richard Clarida, that he had to 1065 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:45,840 Speaker 7: resign because he was front running during the COVID panic. 1066 00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,360 Speaker 7: He was front running the FED with multimillion dollar trades. 1067 00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,439 Speaker 7: I got hardly any attention from the corporate media. 1068 00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:54,800 Speaker 1: Steep, I mean, give them some Steve, hang on one second, 1069 00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:58,879 Speaker 1: short break, Philip Pats is just going to join US America.