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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly here

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Speaker 2: with Matt Williamson, and I know it's an exciting day

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Speaker 2: for everybody here with the opening of the free agency

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Speaker 2: period and everything. But we we lost a friend last

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Speaker 2: night and Craig Wolfly and.

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Speaker 3: Just I don't know, words don't pretty bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, words don't explain getting that phone call early this

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Speaker 2: morning and saying that Wolf was gone, just the feeling

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Speaker 2: I had, you know, for me having gone through with him.

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Speaker 2: I'm still going through here as you know, over the

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Speaker 2: last year, if not for the grace of God, that

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Speaker 2: could be me. And you know, it just hits home that,

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Speaker 2: you know, Wolf is no longer with us, and thoughts

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Speaker 2: and prayers go out to his family.

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 2: You know CJ. Wolfley often does this show with us,

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Speaker 2: and you know as a producer. And again, I've known

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Speaker 2: Wolf for thirty years. I didn't have the I didn't

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Speaker 2: have the the pleasure of covering Wolf as a player.

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Speaker 2: He had left just before I started covering the team,

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Speaker 2: but met him soon thereafter. That when he got into broadcasting.

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Speaker 2: And I've been a great friend over the years, and

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Speaker 2: you know, right now, I guess he and he and

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Speaker 2: Tantrup there looking down on the rest of risk one.

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Speaker 2: Can you believe Dan Moore signed that contract?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, right for him A good yeah. Yeah, And we'll

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Speaker 4: get the football here in a bit. But obviously that's

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Speaker 4: been You called me this morning and told me, and

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Speaker 4: it's been on everyone's mind and hanging heavy and what

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Speaker 4: a big presence, I mean, such a cool life. I

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Speaker 4: mean people that don't know going back, I mean he

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Speaker 4: was a phenomenal player. Some of his stories I mean,

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Speaker 4: like as a special teamer at Syrahcuse running down the

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Speaker 4: field and fighting butterbean and father of six and World's

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Speaker 4: Strongest Man competition. I mean, the stuff he did years

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Speaker 4: ago is incredible.

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Speaker 3: Lived a couple of lifetimes. Yeah, and really, I mean

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I think people listening know that he was very involved

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Speaker 4: in charities and gave a lot of his time, but

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Speaker 4: they might not know how much. I mean, it was

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Speaker 4: always something with that guy. Yeah, he's phenomenal, phenomenal person

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Speaker 4: and we're all kind of heavy hearted today to say

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Speaker 4: the least.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, doubt about it.

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Speaker 3: We spent a lot of time in these type of

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Speaker 3: rooms with him on.

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Speaker 2: The air and draft days, yeah, yeah, all that kind

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Speaker 2: of stuff that uh you know, training camp watching. You know,

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Speaker 2: you know he and Tounch would have a spot out

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Speaker 2: by the fire pit where they'd sit and smoke their cigars,

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Speaker 2: and you know, later it became he and and you

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Speaker 2: know Carl Dunbar would be out there or you know,

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Speaker 2: actually be out there with him as he smoked a cigar.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, totally definitely feels a void. And boy, I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you what, uh you know, we were just talking.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know we lost lost Tounch. I think

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Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty. That was during the COVID year. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: members were the COVID year and you know Stan savergn

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Speaker 2: last year. Now uh now Wolf, I mean losing a

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Speaker 2: lot of these uh kind.

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Speaker 3: Of stalwarts in the yeah business and friends.

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Speaker 2: You know, I didn't know Mike Lang, well I had

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Speaker 2: talked to him a few times, but but certainly, uh

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Speaker 2: you know, a rough goved in the Pittsburgh media market here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Mike Lang hit me hard. I mean as a kid,

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Speaker 4: I mean I listened to every Lemux game Veal. Mike Lang, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I didn't know him at all, but I mean all

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Speaker 4: those guys you mentioned.

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Speaker 2: Well, the only way I knew him was I worked

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Speaker 2: at the Observer reporter with Bob Grove, and whenever Mike

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Speaker 2: Lang wanted to know something stats wise, he would call

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Speaker 2: the office. I was for Bob and so I would, Hey,

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Speaker 2: it's Mike Lang's on the phone. So you know, we

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Speaker 2: chat a little bit. But Wolf and touch and stand.

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Speaker 4: When they're big presences, we're friends, you know, in Pittsburgh

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Speaker 4: sports in general too. But yeah, those guys were definitely buds,

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Speaker 4: and I probably knew Wolf the best of all of them,

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Speaker 4: just being on the earth them as much and all

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Speaker 4: that too, and really fun to be around, really really

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Speaker 4: cool life and sucks pretty.

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Speaker 2: Bad, yeah, absolutely, So just wanted to get that out

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Speaker 2: of the way here before we start. And uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be a somebody's gonna have some big shoes

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Speaker 2: to fill, yeah, you know, with everything, and he did,

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Speaker 2: and you know, but life goes on, and that's what

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Speaker 2: we got to do. And free agency agency.

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Speaker 4: Right, No, it's to change the tone, hopefully. Monster day

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Speaker 4: in the league. I mean, it's been insane. I'm sure

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Speaker 4: ten things will happen in these next two hours while

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Speaker 4: we're on the air. Maybe the Steelers will land a

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Speaker 4: quarterback who knows. They made a monster trade last night,

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Speaker 4: doing some other things too. Moves here everywhere, I mean,

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Speaker 4: all the dominoes are falling quickly across the league, and

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Speaker 4: it's it's a lot of fun.

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Speaker 3: I mean it really is. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about the the first news. Well, first

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Speaker 2: of all, ok, the Steelers have just announced they've released

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Speaker 2: Larry Ogunjobi. Yeah, that's saved seven million dollars against the

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Speaker 2: salary cap. They also offered a second round tender to

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Speaker 2: Jalen Warren. I thought they might go cheaper than that,

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Speaker 2: but they, yeah, might.

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Speaker 3: Want to make sure that yeah, yeah, he's probably not

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Speaker 3: getting touched.

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Speaker 2: No. And also signed exclusive rights free agent Ryan McCollum,

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Speaker 2: which we thought would happen.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, I missed that with all the news today,

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Speaker 3: but yeah. Good.

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Speaker 2: In addition, last night was the big move. They go

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Speaker 2: out and they trade a second round pick. There's also

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Speaker 2: some later round picks that were involved in this, but

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Speaker 2: they swapped some picks there with with Seattle to acquire

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Speaker 2: dk Metcalf.

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Speaker 4: I'm a fan. I mean, this is a big move.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's one of the worst kept secrets ever.

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Speaker 4: They've been booking for a receiver for a year and

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Speaker 4: a half now, I mean a brand name.

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Speaker 2: And did not want to get shut out in this

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Speaker 2: right right give me the bird in the hand, and

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Speaker 2: it's an impressive bird.

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Speaker 3: I mean.

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Speaker 4: I was very, very familiar obviously with Metcalf, but since

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Speaker 4: trading four him, I dug into him even more. The

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Speaker 4: scouting report on him is I can't wait to see

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Speaker 4: him person. I mean, like, we've seen some big wide outs,

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Speaker 2: I mean, so last last night, after the after the trade,

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Speaker 2: my wife hadn't watched the Super Bowl version of The

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Speaker 2: Great American Baking Show, which he came back the super

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Speaker 2: Bowl version of it, and so they show him. Now

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Speaker 2: he's he's on there with Eric Armstead and Tony Gonzalez.

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Speaker 3: Tight end in a six eight defensive end.

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Speaker 2: Along with a couple of There are a couple of

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Speaker 2: actresses on there, one one act Amy Smart and then

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Speaker 2: somebody else. So there's they show them all walking out

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Speaker 2: together to go into the baking tent. And I told

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Speaker 2: my wife, I said, the guy in the middle a

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Speaker 2: wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: He's a little fast guy.

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Speaker 2: The guy, yeah, the guy next to him.

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Speaker 3: And now I described to my wife, he's a little

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Speaker 3: fast guy, catches past.

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Speaker 2: The Hall of Fame tight end who he's bigger.

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Speaker 3: Than Yeah, yeah, oh he bet he's bigger than his ault.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he made Gonzales look kind of small.

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Speaker 3: I said.

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Speaker 2: The guy next to him then is a six foot

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Speaker 2: eight defensive end.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's probably close to three hundred pounds. Yeah, with

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Speaker 4: every bet this long, et cetera. Two, and he probably

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Speaker 4: looks like he belongs or the second biggest guy.

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Speaker 2: He didn't look like he was six'.

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Speaker 4: Eight he didn't look like the fastest guy there or

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Speaker 4: the you, know the most athletic of that. Crew so

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Speaker 4: he is incredibly impressive. Physically and boy WHAT i didn't

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Speaker 4: quite realize how fast he gets the top. SPEED i,

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Speaker 4: mean he is a. Nightmare he was like one four

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Speaker 4: six as the COMBINE i, bet and he looks faster

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Speaker 4: than that now his strides were six is. Flying so

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Speaker 4: the reason he was in The Deontay johnson draft and

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Speaker 4: the reason he didn't go as high as it was

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Speaker 4: a great receiver draft and Aj brown going to end

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Speaker 4: up going to second round they were. Teammates he had

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Speaker 4: a terrible three cone drill and everyone killed him for.

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Speaker 3: IT i don't think it matters at. All, No and here's.

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Speaker 4: WHY i, mean, yeah, career because he comes off the

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Speaker 3: Him you can't even beats the crap out of press

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Speaker 3: for one.

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Speaker 4: Thing and he gets corners to flip their hips so

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Speaker 4: fast that he can break it off and steal a

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Speaker 4: slant from.

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Speaker 3: You at all.

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Speaker 4: TIMES i mean because he is so big and powerful

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Speaker 4: and explosive off the. Ball he's one of the best

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Speaker 4: deep threats in the. League and the change of direction

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Speaker 4: stuff has definitely, Improved like there's no doubt in my.

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Speaker 4: Mind he's worked on out routes and comebacks and slants

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Speaker 4: and coming out of his breaks presents a big. Target

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Speaker 4: he's got good. Hands now there's a couple of. Negatives

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Speaker 4: he's not as good a contested ball catcher as you

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Speaker 4: think he is because he's the biggest receiver on the.

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Speaker 4: Planet he doesn't moss people left and right on fades

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Speaker 4: Like pickens is more of that. Style he's fumbled a.

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Speaker 3: Lot you.

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Speaker 4: Know he's an aggressive run after the catch guy that

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Speaker 4: tries to break. Tackles and often does and just destroys

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Speaker 4: little people trying to tackle. Them and he's vaulted on the,

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Speaker 4: field he's taken some penalties that he needs to clean

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Speaker 2: Get it's all on the field, stuff oh, right kind

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Speaker 2: of like when you talk About pickens and. People, well

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Speaker 2: he's such a he's such a. Problem it's on the field.

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Speaker 2: Stuff it's not off.

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Speaker 3: The, field right.

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Speaker 2: Right and AGAIN i ask you go watch.

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Speaker 3: A lot of its. Competitiveness, yeah don't watch that.

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Speaker 2: Again that That Great american baking. Show it's On roku.

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Speaker 2: ORDER i don't even know what it's, on but you

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Speaker 2: can search. It it's out. There AND i came away from.

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Speaker 2: THAT i remember watching it around The Super bowl And i'm,

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Speaker 2: like he's a lot different guy THAN i.

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Speaker 3: Thought he wasn't based on the.

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Speaker 2: Field and he even said at one point he's you,

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Speaker 2: know when they were introducing, him he, Said i'm a

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Speaker 2: lot different person off the field THAN i am.

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Speaker 3: On, it like A Paul mali or. Whatever, yeah, right.

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Speaker 2: Right he just has a really competitive. Streak to your

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Speaker 2: point about that that twenty nineteen, Draft, Yeah terry McLaurin

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Speaker 2: has the most catches of any receiver taken in that.

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Speaker 3: Draft third round OR i think, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Uh he has four hundred and sixty catches for six

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Speaker 3: YARDS. A.

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Speaker 2: J brown is, second four forty six for seven and

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Speaker 2: twenty six metcalf is third with four thirty eight for

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Speaker 3: Catch the only guy with more IS Aj. Brown, okay,

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Speaker 2: Me he went two picks ahead Of Deontay. JOHNSON I

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Speaker 3: Him it was like, that that's a Weird.

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Speaker 2: Deebo samuel was in that. Draft it's a great, draft, lass,

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Speaker 2: Right Marquise brown was in that, Draft Hunter, Renfro Darius.

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Speaker 2: SLAYTON i mean there were there Were there were some

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Speaker 2: and there were some other guys that haven't really.

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Speaker 4: HIT i Think Markus brown was the first one taken

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Speaker 4: in that class pretty, sure because.

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Speaker 3: The day two guys were way better than The day.

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Speaker 4: Because here's a little. THING i think people will get

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Speaker 2: Too Oh Nikill henry, Went, No Henry Nikile. HARRY i

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Speaker 2: should Say harryeah was the first first receiver taken at thirty.

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Speaker 2: Two then you Have Marquise brown a few picks. Later

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Speaker 2: then it WAS. J J Arsega. Whiteside, yeah there's some

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Speaker 2: misses at fifty, Seven Andy isabella at sixty, Two Paris

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Speaker 3: Nine then it starts to get.

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Speaker 2: Good, yeah it's Like Nicole hardman was in, there he

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Speaker 2: went at fifty, Six Deebo samuel went at thirty.

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Speaker 3: SIX i don't, know these aren't the right, Order, YEAH i,

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Speaker 3: SAY i don't Think harry.

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Speaker 2: Was metcalf was his sixty fourth pick in that.

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Speaker 3: Draft i'll get this. ME i Get dente with sixty

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Speaker 2: Year let me see, Here, Okay, Yeah Marquis brown was twenty. Fifth,

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Speaker 2: okay that makes. Sense there we, go and Then NIKKI.

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Speaker 2: O harry was right after that at thirty.

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Speaker 3: Two, yeah And Super bowl Champions, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Horrible then it Was DEBO Aj brown at fifty, One

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Speaker 2: Nicole hartman at fifty, SIX JJ. R Sega whiteside at fifty. Seven,

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Speaker 2: Philadelphiagain philadelphia can't draft wide.

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Speaker 4: Receivers by the, Way DeVante smiths first hit in a thousand.

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Speaker 4: Years that's why they traded for Aj, Brown.

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Speaker 2: Paris campbell at fifty, Nine Andy isabelle at sixty, two

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Speaker 2: AND Dk metcalf was at sixty four And Deonta Deontay

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Speaker 4: Six, yeah the day two receivers were pretty. Awesome SO

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Speaker 4: i just heard this this morning, too That, seattle despite

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Speaker 4: their issues on offense and they had a, lot they

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Speaker 4: couldn't protect it at. ALL i mean at. All their

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Speaker 4: third highest percentage of two high shells and smith The

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Speaker 4: jagba is not a deep threat And Tyler lockett ain't

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Speaker 4: what he used to. Be why do you think they

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Speaker 4: saw You it was not a great deep. Thrower and

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Speaker 4: they can't. Attack, YEAH i, mean AND i mean their

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Speaker 4: running game was not. Threatening but if you Have pickings

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Speaker 4: And metcalf on the, outside you're gonna see too.

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Speaker 2: High the safeties are going to be twenty yards off the,

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Speaker 3: And they have to.

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Speaker 4: Be and if they're not who the quarterback is at the,

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Speaker 4: moment it probably it's going to probably go their way

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Speaker 4: on one on. One, Yeah AND i just think it

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Speaker 4: has a huge ripple effect to the run. GAME i,

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Speaker 4: Mean steelers ran into what they deemed loaded, boxes one

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Speaker 4: of the highest percentages in the.

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Speaker 3: League that's going to go. DOWN i mean it has.

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Speaker 2: To so they traded away a second round draft pick

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Speaker 2: to make this. Happen in my immediate thought was twenty

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Speaker 2: one is now in play for a running.

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Speaker 4: BACK i thought the same thing, too, like just go

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Speaker 4: into the deep end, Offensively, yeah you, know assuming they

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Speaker 4: Sign rogers Or wilson or. Whoever If hampton's sitting, there

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Speaker 4: do you just Go we're fixing the offense and thick of,

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Speaker 4: It we're getting skilled guys because.

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Speaker 2: You're not going to get to pick again until eighty.

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Speaker 3: Four until eighty.

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Speaker 4: Four, NOW i think trading down from twenty one is

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Speaker 2: Pick but somebody's got to want to come up to

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Speaker 2: get something. Right that's the problem with.

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Speaker 4: That and we talked about this off the, air and

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Speaker 4: this is getting into the. Weeds but right now they

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Speaker 4: are so set up for comp picks next year With

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Speaker 4: Dan moore's, Contract fields is Contract slay doesn't count against this.

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Speaker 4: Group either quarterback wouldn't count against this. Group metcalf doesn't

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Speaker 4: count against this. Group then maybe you're even trading a

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Speaker 4: third next year on Draft day for somebody you like

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Speaker 4: to or you, know moving up somewhere in the middle

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Speaker 4: portions of the draft Or day. Two they got a

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Speaker 4: lot of future draft picks coming their.

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Speaker 2: Way, yeah the problem is is you don't have those

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Speaker 2: comp picks, yet and.

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Speaker 3: So you have to trade your own.

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Speaker 2: Pick you have to trade your own. Pick so get

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Speaker 2: you get to trade two thirds to move up into

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Speaker 2: the second. Round, yeah, yeah then you then you then

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Speaker 2: you don't go you go from whatever fifty eight or

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Speaker 3: Pick LIKE i would imagine they're trying to get a

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Speaker 4: Way but to, ME dk straight up for a second

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Speaker 4: round pick is a deal that's a very good value to.

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Speaker 3: Me now.

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Speaker 2: Does that, mean and we've talked about, this that you

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Speaker 2: can't Have George pickens AND Dk metcalf on the same.

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Speaker 2: TEAM i don't. Know in some, WAYS i get. It

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Speaker 2: they're both very volatile and.

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Speaker 3: They have some similar overlying.

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Speaker 2: Skills the overlying skill SETS i Think metcalf has shown

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Speaker 2: the ability to go over the middle.

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Speaker 4: MORE i mean He's pickens can lollygags over the middle

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Speaker 4: more THAN i would. Like and we know that this

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Speaker 4: has not been an over the field passing attack really

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Speaker 4: for several. Years it's not just A wilson Or fields.

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Speaker 4: Thing but it's not their specialty. EITHER i think they

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Speaker 4: do have to attack the field middle of field. More

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Speaker 4: But metcalf on crossers and things like that is pretty,

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Speaker 4: accomplished you. KNOW i, mean he's not bad at that at.

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Speaker 4: ALL i don't know what you, do, Boy pickens Versus,

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Speaker 4: METCALF i, mean it's tantalizing to me to put those

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Speaker 4: two outside the numbers every, snap and Then wilson And

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Speaker 4: austin factor in here and.

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Speaker 3: There when you get a couple.

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Speaker 2: Of, forwards, right actually a small forward and a power forward.

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Speaker 4: With washington And friar move, YEAH i mean your pass

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Speaker 4: catchers are, Ginormous i'm.

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Speaker 2: Saying then you add a two hundred and twenty pound

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Speaker 2: running back to that, equation it's like.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah and developing a line and all those.

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Speaker 4: Things so that's. Appealing but if they were to look

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Speaker 4: at this, like, well we invested a ton In. Metcalf

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Speaker 4: we're going to get that second plus or whatever For

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Speaker 4: pickens Signed slayton or something along those. LINES i totally

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Speaker 4: understand that as. Well but The Twin towers as it

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Speaker 4: Stands monday at four fifteen or whatever is pretty.

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Speaker 3: Threatening, yeah without a.

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Speaker 2: Doubt it's kind of like what The chargers used to

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Speaker 2: have when they Had Mike williams And. Keenan allen's not.

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Speaker 2: Small he's six to, two, no, right and they've always

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Speaker 2: had another big receiver on the. Outside and it was a.

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Speaker 4: Handful and it made me think too that right after

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Speaker 4: The Super, bowl we know that The steelers have a

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Speaker 4: lot Of eagles. Ties they signed It eagle, TODAY i,

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Speaker 4: mean and especially if it was going to Be, Fields

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Speaker 4: fields being The hurts throwing to Aj Brown Deavonte. SMITH i,

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Speaker 4: mean those two receivers have a ton of value in that.

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Speaker 4: Offense even though they run the ball like crazy because

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Speaker 4: they you can't load the box as, much you know

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Speaker 4: WHAT i, Mean like you could still sort of mimick

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Speaker 4: to what they do on.

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Speaker 2: Offense, Yeah so it's going to be interesting to see

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Speaker 2: how this continues to play out here as we continue

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Speaker 2: to get into free.

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Speaker 4: Agency and as For. Pickens you can be very patient.

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Speaker 4: TOO i, mean if you are considering trading, them you

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Speaker 4: don't have to do that, soon do that, whatever you

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Speaker 4: could do that during the, draft you could do.

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Speaker 3: It and.

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Speaker 4: TRAINING i, mean teams are gonna need. Receivers they're starting

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Speaker 4: to dry. Up, yeah but, no there's a lot more

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Speaker 2: Happen, NO i don't think they are anywhere close to

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Speaker 3: Yet and obviously quarterbacks the biggest shoe to.

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Speaker 2: Drop, yeah but that hasn't happened. Yet so we'll see

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Speaker 2: if it happens here while we're on the while we're

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Speaker 2: on the air, here at some, point it is going to.

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Speaker 2: Happen they, Will they're going to have another. Quarterback i've

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Speaker 2: already had. People, boy they, yeah they've got they've done

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Speaker 2: all this, stuff but they still don't have a. QUARTERBACK

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Speaker 2: i guarantee you, folks when they line up In, september

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Speaker 2: there will be somebody standing behind the center accepting the.

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Speaker 2: FOOTBALL i bet it's Not Skyler. Thompson i'll bet it's

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Speaker 2: not on Opening. Day, yeah that would be my.

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Speaker 3: Guess something's gonna happen. Soon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, anyways let's get to a. Break he is The Matt.

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Speaker 2: WILLIAMSON i Am Dale. Lolly you're listening to The drive

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Speaker 2: here on The Steelers Audio network and uh rest in,

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Speaker 2: peace WOLF.

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Speaker 1: Yep at least he's The drive With Dale lolly And

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Speaker 1: Matt williamson on your twenty four to Seven home of

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Speaker 1: The black And Gold Steelers Nation radio.

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Speaker 3: And welcome.

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Speaker 2: BACK i Am DALE lolli he is The Matt williamson

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Speaker 2: And Well steelers have had a couple of losses. Already

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Speaker 2: in free, Agency Dan moore signs a four, year eighty

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Speaker 2: two million dollar contract with The Tennessee. Titans Justin fields

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Speaker 2: accepts a two, year forty million dollar deal with The

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Speaker 2: New York jets and takes himself off the any possibility

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Speaker 2: of being The steelers quarterback next. Year AND i see

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Speaker 2: people were ticked off about. This we had to Have Justin,

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Speaker 2: fields not at twenty million dollars a.

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Speaker 4: YEAR i very much understood going that, direction AND i

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Speaker 4: mentioned the hurts parallel and trying.

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Speaker 3: To run an offense that, way.

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Speaker 4: BUT i wish he was further. ALONG i, mean there's

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Speaker 4: still a lot of. Questions you, know twenty.

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Speaker 2: Million dollars a year would have made that one of

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Speaker 2: the top certainly the top. Ten contracts signed in this

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Speaker 2: free agency period right right, right per.

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Speaker 3: YEAR i, mean compared to What Josh allen and those

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Speaker 3: guys are making it it's. Different it's. Different BUT i can't.

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Speaker 3: GIVE i can't.

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Speaker 2: GIVE i understand it's only a two year, deal but

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Speaker 2: it's thirty million dollars fully.

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Speaker 3: Guaranteed is that what they gave? Him, yeah it's a.

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Speaker 2: Lot of money for a guy who you're not, sold

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Speaker 2: is your long term.

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Speaker 3: Starter.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah And i'll be, honest the money doesn't bother

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Speaker 4: me that much BECAUSE i feel like there's so much

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Speaker 4: money in the league right now that if someone else over.

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Speaker 2: Spends, Now Dante jackson has signed a deal bitty good two,

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Speaker 2: years thirteen million dollars to The.

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Speaker 3: Chargers, okay So steelers are getting. Compact they're getting.

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00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,800
Speaker 4: Serious, compacts and we knew this was going to. Happen

438
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,840
Speaker 4: nausey's still out. There James, Daniels James dandiels might make

439
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,240
Speaker 4: a good buck, too if he's.

440
00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:47,280
Speaker 3: HEALTHY i, Mean i'm rooting the best For. FIELDS i

441
00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,560
Speaker 3: think he's walking into a tough. Environment he.

442
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,160
Speaker 4: Is you, Know i'm glad To Tyrod taylor's. There that's

443
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 4: a perfect kind of. Mentor but you walk into that

444
00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,440
Speaker 4: situation hopefully to turn the team.

445
00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:01,520
Speaker 3: Around oh In New york And New, york that's What i'm.

446
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,240
Speaker 3: SAYING i don't know.

447
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,679
Speaker 4: That that goes. WELL i would have totally understood if

448
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,960
Speaker 4: The steelers went down that route and not a twenty

449
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,199
Speaker 4: million dollars a, YEAR i hear. YOU i, mean here's the.

450
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,959
Speaker 2: Thing so The steelers Made Justin fields an. Offer it

451
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:19,400
Speaker 2: wasn't twenty million dollars a, year, Clearly. Yeah and they

452
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 2: reach a point where they, say here's our. Offer we're

453
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 2: not going any higher than. This and maybe it was,

454
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 2: eighteen or maybe it was, SEVEN i don't. KNOW i

455
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 2: don't know exactly what it. Was but they had a

456
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:35,440
Speaker 2: price point in mind With Justin, fields and it became

457
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 2: very apparent that he wasn't going to take.

458
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 3: That once a weekend and start ticking, BY i was, like, well.

459
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 2: Once you get The sunday night and you started hearing

460
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,639
Speaker 2: while they're interested in this, guy this might be a.

461
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 2: POSSIBILITY i, mean at some points you do have to move.

462
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,200
Speaker 2: On just you can't just, say, well The jets are offering,

463
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 2: twenty so we'll go to twenty. One that's bad business.

464
00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 3: For an unproven. Guy, YEAH i, mean if it Were

465
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 3: Dak prescott Or i'm not even talking about The allen's

466
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 3: And burroughs of the.

467
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:08,160
Speaker 2: World or if you're having this conversation next year winning about,

468
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,679
Speaker 2: quarterback ABOUT Tj. WATT Tj wat gets onto the open, market,

469
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,639
Speaker 2: sure he, Says, okay we're gonna give him one hundred

470
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:14,680
Speaker 2: and forty million over three.

471
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 3: Years we'll give you one forty. Two, yeah, yeah THIS.

472
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 4: Tj or we'll match, whatever because you're a, guy you, know,

473
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 4: right and you're. Proven and Again i'm rooting For. Fields

474
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,680
Speaker 4: i'm glad that they went down that. ROAD i was

475
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 4: leaning that way Cost.

476
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 3: Day or, whatever right.

477
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 4: Exactly but there's a lot of QUESTIONS i still have

478
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 4: as a, player you. KNOW i, mean, NOW i don't

479
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 4: know what the answer is going to. BE i thought

480
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,879
Speaker 4: flirting With, donald if there's any truth to, that was.

481
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 4: INTERESTING i don't know Why donald would Pick seattle Over

482
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 4: pittsburgh if that's what it came down.

483
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 2: To and my money and money's, Money, yeah say where

484
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 2: he wanted to be on The west. Coast he's A

485
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,879
Speaker 2: West coast. GUY i don't. Know you just don't.

486
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 4: Know but now he's not thrown at the k met gay,

487
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 4: right and they doesn't have any guards or. Centers that's

488
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,359
Speaker 4: another ENVIRONMENT i don't think is good for him. Either

489
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 4: it looks like It's rogers Or. WILSON i, mean AND

490
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,199
Speaker 4: i would understand both those. TWO i Think rogers given the,

491
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:12,880
Speaker 4: two given the two receivers that they. Have, yeah, yeah,

492
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 4: YEAH i Know wilson And metcalf have a good, relationship

493
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,160
Speaker 4: not knowing they play, together BUT i GUESS i think

494
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 4: he was in Like metcalf's wedding.

495
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 3: Or something like. That like their, friends they very, good

496
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 3: they get along really.

497
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 4: Well and people On, TWITTER i don't know if it's

498
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 4: a true source or, not was you know he introduced

499
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 4: D k to his, wife you, know like they've they've

500
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 4: known each other a good.

501
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,639
Speaker 2: Time there's video of them throwing together last, offseason, okay

502
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 2: and they they're.

503
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 4: Buds as For, Rogers Pickins, Metcalf rogers could be of

504
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 4: all little situation to say the, least and could make

505
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 4: for a lot of good reporting and sound bites if

506
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 4: things go don't go. Great BUT i don't know if

507
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 4: people noticed at the end of last year he played really.

508
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,640
Speaker 2: Well he's the only the only pretty good football. Player

509
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 2: the only PROBLEM i have with With. Rogers if it Is,

510
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 2: rogers you got to get some guarantees in. There you're

511
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:04,439
Speaker 2: going to show up at ot.

512
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 3: As that kind of. Stuff, yeah you're gonna run our.

513
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 2: Offense we're not Gonna we're not gonna change the entire

514
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 2: offense around to do what you want to.

515
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 4: Do this Isn't we can sprinkle in some of your,

516
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 4: stuff but it can't be All West Coasts ago nineteen

517
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 4: ninety Two West coast, offense right, RIGHT i mean this

518
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 4: is how we do. Things, yeah he's super, smart he'll

519
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 4: get it in no, time BUT i also want him

520
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 4: audible onto line of scrimmage and doing all the stuff

521
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 4: that he does well.

522
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 3: Too.

523
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 2: SEE i Thought labs brought up a legitimate point about

524
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 2: that last, week and we had him On.

525
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 3: Ben.

526
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 2: Roethlisberg do that these people people out there saying That

527
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 2: Mike tomlin doesn't let his his quarterback audible at the

528
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 2: line of. Scrimmage that was a big complaint about The Ben.

529
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 2: Roethlisberger he's the offensive. Coordinator he's just calling. DRAWING i

530
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 2: think there's now it's swung back the other way Where

531
00:24:54,359 --> 00:25:01,360
Speaker 2: Mike tomlin won't let his quarterbacks. Audible ravatas to do

532
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 2: that because he knew the offense like the back of his.

533
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,479
Speaker 4: Hand, yes there's also a misconception of what an audible

534
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 4: is by our listener. TOO i think some people are, Like,

535
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 4: ben you should just say run down to The Ford

536
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 4: taurus and turn around like we're on the, street you,

537
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 4: know like or don't do any of the stuff we taught.

538
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 4: You just block it this, way run it this. Way

539
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 4: and this goes back To pickett and all those, Guys

540
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 4: AND i know it's one hundred percent. True in The

541
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 4: Arthur smith, offense those quarterbacks come to the line of

542
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 4: scrimmage with more than one. PLAY i, mean they can

543
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 4: get out of a run or a, pass Especially wilson

544
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 4: And guy's been around the. Block it's not LIKE i

545
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 4: have to run this.

546
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 3: PLAY i am a.

547
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,880
Speaker 4: Robot that's not HOW nfl offenses. Work that's why they're

548
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 4: so complex and why being a quarterback is so. Difficult

549
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 4: IT'S i, mean so the audible thing is. Different then

550
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 4: he comes a line of scrimmage and then decides to

551
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 4: call his own play like He's bradshaw back in the.

552
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 4: Day that's a lot. Harder whenever it comes in through your.

553
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 4: Ears you got to it to everybody you're in a crowded,

554
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 4: stadium your receiver might not hear, it and you got

555
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 4: to spit out a play call that's a foreign language.

556
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 3: That takes ten seconds to.

557
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 2: Come but everybody sees or used to See Peyton manning doing.

558
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 2: It he's hand signals and doing all. That, yeah because

559
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 2: he had been in that. Offense wilson does his entire.

560
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 2: Life wilson did the.

561
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 4: Guy around, too, right, RIGHT i mean that doesn't mean

562
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 4: you just sit there and run the static. PLAY i mean,

563
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 4: again SO i thought there's a misconception anytime you're.

564
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 2: AUDIBLING i always used to say this About roethlisberger's. Stuff

565
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 2: he's not audibling to something he just drew. Up, no

566
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 2: he's audibling to something they've already had in the playbook

567
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 2: and they've worked on over the course of the. Week

568
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 2: they're still running the, offense, right those guys come to

569
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 2: the lion scribman's kill kill kill kill. Killed that means

570
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 2: they go to play, too and everyone knows that there's

571
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 2: two plays calling or. Whatever they get out of the,

572
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,199
Speaker 2: run they get out of the, pass. Whatever so that

573
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 2: wouldn't worry. Me if It's rogers Or, wilson they will

574
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 2: have freedom at the. Line, YEAH i, MEAN i don't

575
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 2: know how, much but they will be able to get

576
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 2: out of. BAD i just if It's Aaron. Rodgers he

577
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 2: can't be In, egypt.

578
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 3: And i'd like lesser and you, know but he is who.

579
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,719
Speaker 2: IS i understand that you know what you're signing up

580
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 2: for when you bring him. In but he can't be

581
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 2: In egypt during during mini.

582
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 3: Camp that can't. Happen you.

583
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 2: Can't you, know you can't skip all of OTAs because

584
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 2: you're in a. Cave that's that's my biggest problem With

585
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 2: Aaron rodgers is.

586
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 4: That and you wonder is that the conversations they're having,

587
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 4: now Maybe, okay.

588
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,199
Speaker 3: We need you to, Go we need you to be.

589
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 2: Present you want to, win you got to be. Present,

590
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 2: yeah you, know this is your. CHANCE i understand The

591
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 2: jets were a disaster and The Jets us are a

592
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 2: different Organ The jets have been a disaster every year

593
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 2: of my.

594
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 3: Lifetime. Yeah they allow for the most things to, happen

595
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 3: and they enable it To they.

596
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 2: Won A Super bowl in nineteen sixty. SEVEN i was

597
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: born in nineteen sixty. Eight they've been at pretty much

598
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 2: one of the laughing stocks of the league every year.

599
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 4: Since, yeah they had a couple of good years With.

600
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 4: SANCHEZ i mean that's just been they want a playoff

601
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 4: game here and. There you, know right, now most organizations

602
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 4: wouldn't Allow rogers to do that kind of, stuff AND

603
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 4: i don't think this would be one for.

604
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 3: Sure but he can still.

605
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 4: PLAY i was impressed with his, movement his ball, placement

606
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 4: his arm. Strength it's NOT Mvp. Rogers, yeah he's not

607
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,479
Speaker 4: what he. Was he's not what he, was but he.

608
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 4: Was mahomes are four. MAHOMES i mean when you're talking

609
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 4: ABOUT i mean his, peak he was better Than ben

610
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 4: in my. OPINION i, mean he was better than ANYONE

611
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 4: i had seen to that. Point so if it's eighty

612
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 4: percent of, that eighty five percent of that and he's

613
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 4: bought in and you have those two weapons for him or,

614
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 4: WHATEVER i, MEAN i don't hate. IT i Mean i've

615
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 4: come around on it a little. BIT i think he

616
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 4: might be the better player Than wilson right. NOW i

617
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 4: mean it's his peak he. WAS i, mean he's better than, anybody.

618
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 3: Right his, peak he was the.

619
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 2: Best, yeah you know he's not there at this. Point

620
00:28:55,400 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 2: it does again all of my, trepidation would this Involves

621
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 2: Aaron rodgers off the.

622
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 4: Field oh, yeah, yeah the circus that could come with, it,

623
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 4: Right and and if it starts to be a losing,

624
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 4: season does that bring everyone?

625
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 3: Down who?

626
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 2: KNOWS i, mean say what you will About Russell, wilson

627
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 2: but he was team first, team team team, team, team,

628
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 2: team mister positivity and you know all that, stuff and you,

629
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 2: know and.

630
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 3: Hey say what you want About Mike.

631
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 4: Tomlin that's what he does well, though is managed personalities

632
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 4: and communicate with his. Guys AND i forget which which

633
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 4: uh press conference he said. It he's, like, well that's

634
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 4: Why i'm in a higher tax, bracket or Why i'm well,

635
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 4: COMPENSATED i think was his.

636
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 3: Word that's why you're.

637
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 4: Paying, them you, know deal With metcalf on the, field

638
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 4: deal With, pickens deal With, rogers deal with this. Situation you,

639
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 4: know it's an easy. Job, yeah it definitely. Isn't there's

640
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 4: no great option.

641
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 3: Here, no there's.

642
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 2: Not and and AND i.

643
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 3: Don't think fields was either Or. Donold. No, right that's the.

644
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 2: Thing And i've said this all. ALONG i missed THOSE

645
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 2: i didn't see any of these guys being long term

646
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 2: answers right right quarter back.

647
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 4: Position now there's an argument if any of them were

648
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 4: it would Be fields Or. Donald but they have a

649
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 4: long way to go to that till they're that, point

650
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 4: and they're not, cheap you.

651
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 2: Know and AND i think there was some there has

652
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: been some waxing about just what Exactly Justin fields did.

653
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 3: It to start the last?

654
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 2: Season agree to, well he was good they went for

655
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 2: and to not they Went it was Very Kenny pickett.

656
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 2: Like and, yes there's there's an art to doing. That,

657
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 2: oh there is one of the reasons WHY i used

658
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 2: to Praise. Picket there's an art to being able to win.

659
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 2: Games when you need to win a, game.

660
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 3: Don't turn the ball, over make plays you have. To

661
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 3: that was from the coaching.

662
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 2: Staff it wasn't high level. Quarterbacking, no, no there. Haven't

663
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 2: there were, glimpses but the high level. QUARTERBACKING i mean

664
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 2: there was a lot of procedural stuff. Too it's about twenty,

665
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 2: twenty you, Know ben's first year back.

666
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 4: Exactly you, know And russell was noticeably different from that

667
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 4: regard the second he got in. There, yeah command of

668
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 4: the offense, experience and there's something absolutely be said for that.

669
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 4: Too Will fields ever get, THERE i don't, Know and

670
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 4: he's never proven to be.

671
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 3: ACCURATE i, mean can guys get more? Accurate. Yeah, again it.

672
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 2: Doesn't typically happen though in year five and usually not.

673
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 4: YOU i, mean if if it's true that the finalists

674
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 4: came down To, Fields, Donald, Rogers, wilson.

675
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 3: If any of.

676
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 4: Them departed and two of them have or out of the,

677
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 4: MIX i can still. SLEEP i, mean there wasn't one

678
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 4: of them THAT i.

679
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 3: Was, LIKE i gotta get that.

680
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 2: One.

681
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 3: Yeah just they're just Not it's not the best group this.

682
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 2: Year even trading For Gino smith was.

683
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 4: NOT i think he's a good, player but he's thirty,

684
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 4: EIGHT i think. Too and, YEAH i don't know that

685
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 4: that would have been it would cost you a. Pick

686
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 4: you'd have given up a third round pick. Too, yeah

687
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 4: and you wouldn't have Dk metcalf probably you have to

688
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 4: give you give up both two and, three, RIGHT i

689
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 4: don't think that would have. Happened, No but, YEAH i don't.

690
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 4: KNOW I i don't get the teeth gnashing over. THIS

691
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 4: i think we've known all along. That, No i've written

692
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 4: this On steelers Dot.

693
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 2: Com no matter what option you go with a, quarterback

694
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 2: it's not the long term.

695
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 3: Solution but we Know Wilson rodgers is it's.

696
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 2: Build the best team around whatever quarterback it is that

697
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 2: you're going to have in twenty twenty five and see

698
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 2: if you can win that.

699
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 4: Way, yeah AND i don't think there was a golden

700
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 4: opportunity missed in terms of quarterbacks they could have. Had

701
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 4: the other name Is Daniel. Jones that doesn't do it for.

702
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 3: Me that's the. SAME i don't think it's even going

703
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 3: to be an.

704
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 2: ISSUE i think we want to that's a clear path

705
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 2: to five and.

706
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 4: Twelve, YEAH i, mean IF i were The colts AND

707
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 4: i wanted to compete With, richardson or IF i were

708
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,479
Speaker 4: The vikings And i've, McCarthy MAYBE i can turn him

709
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 4: into this Year Sam. DARNOLD i Mean i'm. REACHING i

710
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 4: mean because there's not much OUT i, mean that's the other.

711
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 4: Options there's nothing else out.

712
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 2: There, YEAH i can't go down.

713
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 3: THAT i just.

714
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 2: Can't i've seen too.

715
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 4: Much And I'm i'm not excited about mortgaging next year's

716
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,719
Speaker 4: first to go get shut Or sanders or something like that,

717
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 4: either you, KNOW i, MEAN i wouldn't mind drafting one

718
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 4: in this class if it works out that.

719
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 3: Way there's plenty of.

720
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 2: GUYS i, like if you, know if if Schudor sanders

721
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 2: happened to be there at twenty.

722
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 3: One i'd get. It i'd GET i get, It i'd

723
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 3: get it, right you. Know But i'm.

724
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 2: Not i'm not moving up to go get.

725
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 3: Him not, far that's for. SURE i don't KNOW i

726
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 3: move up at all to go get especially without a

727
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 3: second round.

728
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 2: Pick, Yeah you're just not going to do. That And

729
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 2: i'll be perfectly happy with. People we'll call him he

730
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 2: who shall not be, named because people are getting on

731
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 2: us on the YouTube channel about talking about a Certain

732
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 2: louisville quarterback too.

733
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 3: MUCH i like, him but.

734
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 4: Not a second round. Pick the chance of landing, HIM

735
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 4: i think got a lot less all of a. SUDDEN i,

736
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 4: MEAN i think you have to draft a running. BACK

737
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 4: i think you have to draft a corner. NOW i,

738
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 4: MEAN i can't just be happy With.

739
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,479
Speaker 2: Well slay hasn't been. Relieved slay hasn't officially been released.

740
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 2: Yet that doesn't happen Until. Wednesday so it's the break

741
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 2: DOWN i know a little.

742
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 4: Bit in free, agency sometimes these things haven't gone. Through

743
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 4: that's why WHEN i guess it's not on the website

744
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 4: now or none of.

745
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 2: This none of, this and nothing becomes official Until wednesday

746
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 2: at four.

747
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 3: O'clock.

748
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 2: Nothing these are all just.

749
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 3: Agreements, yeah SO i think what's his face to the

750
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 3: tackle from The, eagles was about to sign With panthers

751
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 3: and went to The. Patriots but none of that's. Done

752
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 3: none of it's, Done so it's.

753
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 2: It's all just kind of paperwork right. Now and, okay,

754
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 2: yeah when, this when this goes, through we'll we'll file

755
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 2: the paperwork and When wednesday at four, o'clock it'll become.

756
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 2: Official you also see more releases. COMING i, say Is

757
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,439
Speaker 2: Aaron rodgers even still A? JET i don't remember ever seeing.

758
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 2: HIM i don't think he's been released officially released yet

759
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 2: right right On. Wednesday, now the teams can give the

760
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 2: player he sometimes they do it for Cap, yeah go

761
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 2: ahead and talk with whoever we're gonna. Make it doesn't

762
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 2: become official until four o'clock On.

763
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 3: Wednesday i'm not sure he's been. CUT i think he's

764
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 3: still A. Jet. Yeah, Weird, yeah but these days are

765
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 3: a little odd and some things don't go through that

766
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 3: you think are going to go.

767
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,919
Speaker 2: Through, yeah so take that with a grain of. Salt

768
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 2: so there's still things that they could do at the cornerback.

769
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 2: Position you, KNOW i don't know THAT i don't know

770
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 2: what they have to draft a, Cornerback let's put it that.

771
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 3: WAY i don't. KNOW i, MEAN i like What i'm.

772
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 2: Saying is That Darius slay deal is not. Done they

773
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,479
Speaker 2: can go sign your various ward tomorrow or. Today, true

774
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 2: you're saying now you're taking cornerback as you're, not you're

775
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 2: not drafting.

776
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 4: One then if you're, not if you're spending money on

777
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 4: one of those type of. Dudes, Right murphy hasn't been,

778
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 4: signed right agreed? To ward has. Not but if it

779
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 4: were Only, SLEIGH i would still be very much in

780
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 4: the market.

781
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 2: For well they, can they can still sign a slot, Too.

782
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 3: Yes they. Could there's a lot more to happen in which.

783
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 2: Can and AGAIN i think, THIS i think the possibility

784
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 2: that they're even talking To Darius, slay who's thirty four years,

785
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 2: old right shows me they have a lot of faith

786
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 2: In Corey Trice.

787
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 4: Me, too me. Too, Yeah but if like A JOHN.

788
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 4: A barron sitting there in the first, round he got

789
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 4: more appealing to. Me if that's a corner route.

790
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 2: They, took, SEE i think the running back thing got

791
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 2: way more. APPEALING i don't.

792
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 4: DISGREBE i think that's a year because you're in it

793
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 4: to win it this.

794
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 2: Year, yeah you need a running you need a running,

795
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 2: back a stud running.

796
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 4: Back That hampton would be the ONE i would consider there, Though,

797
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 4: yeah you, know gent he's not gonna be.

798
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:37,240
Speaker 3: There.

799
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 2: Yeah and you're not gonna have a chance at a

800
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 2: guy Like, Judkins, no, no you.

801
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 4: Won't so you, know do you have the stick and

802
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 4: pick at twenty? One you won't Get judkins in the third.

803
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 2: Round, Right it's just not gonna. Happen so that's kind

804
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 2: of where we're at right. Now we'll see, again there's

805
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 2: way more dominoes that have to fall.

806
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,479
Speaker 4: Here oh, yeah, yeah if THE d line needs. WORK

807
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 4: i mean we know That Ogan joby's not gonna be

808
00:36:58,239 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 4: part of the team. Now it looks like or unless

809
00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 4: they bring him, back but he's been, released you, know

810
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 4: so there's a lot of balls in there right.

811
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 2: NOW i think if they are going to bring him,

812
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 2: back they would just. Restruction yeah, yeah or they let him. Test,

813
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 2: hey go test the, market come back. Later if two

814
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 2: weeks we, can't you count this against the. Cap but

815
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 2: if you go come back three weeks from, now you,

816
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 2: know with.

817
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 3: His injury, history maybe maybe when we won't no one

818
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 3: will jump on THE i don't. Know, yeah so plenty of.

819
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 3: STUFF i.

820
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 2: Know it all sounds like this is all these are

821
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 2: all done, deals but they're not done deals Until wednesday

822
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 2: at four.

823
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 3: O'clock that's a good.

824
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 4: Point and There's tayson And lululu was going back to

825
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 4: The jags and the.

826
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,720
Speaker 3: Until he was Not yeah right, right but we shall.

827
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 2: See, yeah, absolutely let's get to another. Break he is

828
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 2: The Matt. WILLIAMSON i Am Dale. Lolly you're listening to

829
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 2: The drive here on The Steelers Audio. Network matt AND

830
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 2: i will be back with more right after.

831
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 3: This at.

832
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: Least he's The drive With Dale lolly And Matt williamson

833
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,479
Speaker 1: on your twenty four to Seven home of The black

834
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 1: And Gold Steelers Nation.

835
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 3: Radio welcome.

836
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 2: Back I'm DALE lolli he is The Matt. Williamson and uh,

837
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 2: well looking here at the overthecap Dot com compensatory pick

838
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 2: formula and they have this pretty well worked.

839
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 3: Out they he's really good at.

840
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 2: It they've been really good at.

841
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 3: It it's.

842
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 4: Funny in the history of the comp, game the first

843
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 4: two or three, years everyone in.

844
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 2: The world was nobody. Knew it was like you're guessing.

845
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 3: Hieroglyphics, yeah, clue now a couple of these dudes have Gotten.

846
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 2: Really they've studied it over the. Years they've come up

847
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 2: with the formula and some.

848
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 4: Of it's playing time and what you. Do, yeah mostly

849
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 4: it's what you sign for in free.

850
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 2: Agency so right now they over the caap Dot com

851
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 2: is Projecting Dan moore will get The steelers a third

852
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:47,919
Speaker 2: round compensatory.

853
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 3: Pick that's the best one you can.

854
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 2: Get the only one that's higher than him right now

855
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 2: Is Sam, darnold who signed it. Up, yeah bigger, deal bigger.

856
00:38:55,680 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 2: Deal Justin, fields uh will get with net them a

857
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 2: fourth round compensatory.

858
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 3: Pick, okay adds up to it's a big. Contract it's

859
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 3: a big.

860
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,479
Speaker 2: Contract the only person the only ones higher than That Sam,

861
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 2: Darnold Dan, Moore Milton Williams, okay and Then Justin fields

862
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 2: and then finally.

863
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 3: There are two of the biggesteels in free.

864
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 2: Agency, yeah right now as things, stands now there they

865
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 2: only give out thirty two compensatory.

866
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 3: Picks there really is eight rounds of the.

867
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 2: Draft, yeah but right, now as things, stands The steelers

868
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 2: would get a sixth round compensatory pick For Dante.

869
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 4: Jackson, now all this stuff is subject to, change you,

870
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 4: know like more contracts will be, signed of, course and

871
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 4: they will sign someone that's probably A ufa between now

872
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 4: and the. Draft and you mentioned off the, air after the,

873
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,720
Speaker 4: draft this stuff goes. AWAY i, mean there's a magic

874
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 4: date where it doesn't matter. Anymore i'm sure they'll add

875
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 4: somebody that's A. Ufa BUT i Bet Najie harris signed, somewhere,

876
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 4: right and he's probably gonna Make Dante jackson.

877
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 2: MONEY i would think he gets at least maybe, more

878
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,280
Speaker 2: probably might get. More, yeah that might be a half.

879
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 3: You get back for.

880
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 4: Him and LIKE i, said if you sign, someone you

881
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 4: might lose the sixth For. Jackson, Right it's just kind

882
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 4: of a math of it's just. Arithmetic, yeah But James

883
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 4: daniels in the guard, market if he's healthy enough to

884
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 4: sign with, somebody is going to make way more Than Dante.

885
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 2: Jackson you Want James daniels to sign before the. Draft,

886
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 2: yeah if he signs with somebody after the draft doesn't,

887
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 2: matter then it. Doesn't it doesn't factor into your compensatory

888
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 2: pix at.

889
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 4: All so even the quarterback stuff's. Interesting if you were

890
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 4: to Sign, rogers assuming he gets, released, yeah and Then wilson,

891
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,760
Speaker 4: signs And wilson signed somewhere. Else he's going to make quarterback. Money,

892
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 4: YEAH i mean at least it's is he going to

893
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,919
Speaker 4: make fields? Money, yeah he's going to get two, years

894
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 4: forty million. Dollars, yeah, right, right, Right so you're you're

895
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 4: you're almost guaranteed to have extra comp picks next, year

896
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 4: no matter what happens from this point. ON i, mean

897
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:54,720
Speaker 4: that's almost a done.

898
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 2: Deal and that's why you know my five For friday last,

899
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 2: Year i'm, like, folks you want these guys signed monster,

900
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 2: deal signed huge, deals, right the Damn moore deal That

901
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 2: Omar kahn And Andy wide should been high five in

902
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 2: each other in the in The steeler offices today When

903
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 2: Dan moore.

904
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 3: Signed especially as soon As Jalen moore, Signed, like.

905
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 2: Oh really right Fifteen dan's getting water plays, right it

906
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 2: never misses any time a time.

907
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 4: Rights Anthony munio is at left, hackle but he's starting left.

908
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 4: HACKLE i, mean so that's how that. Works AND i

909
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 4: do think a guy Like slay does not count against,

910
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 4: it right because he's been released.

911
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,439
Speaker 2: AND i think there's a little bit More that's why

912
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 2: those those kind of signings have a little more. Value

913
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 2: absolutely do those, guys Like i'm looking here For.

914
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 4: Metcalf that doesn't factor in, folks you, know Like i'm

915
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 4: SURE i know people don't quite get the camp, game you.

916
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 2: Know so right, now for, example The, jets and this

917
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 2: doesn't factor in what it does factor in the. Fields

918
00:41:53,360 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 2: so they've they've they've Signed Justin fields And Brandon. Stevens

919
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 2: that just happened from The Raven. Yeah, yeah they've lost

920
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 2: To Son reddick and they Lost Morgan moses along WITH

921
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 2: Dj reid And Jawon. Kinlaw those on their own would

922
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 2: have netted them fourth round. PICK Dj reid would have

923
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 2: been a fourth round, selection makes. Sense, yeah Well Justin

924
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 2: fields cancels.

925
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 3: That Out, yeah that's got how it, worse, right.

926
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 2: Jawan Kin law would have netted them a fifth round.

927
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 3: Selection he signed for like fifteen million.

928
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 2: Years, Yeah Brandon stevens cancels that out.

929
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 4: Right they signed what they lost, Basically so of those

930
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 4: thirty two, picks WHAT i don't one hundred percent understand

931
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 4: is how many or, third how?

932
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 3: Many, fourth how? Many?

933
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 2: Fifth how many or sixth how many or. Seventh there's a.

934
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 2: Formulas there's a formula set every. Year, yeah it's a

935
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 2: formula involved.

936
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 4: That it's not like there's five thirds every, year like

937
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 4: it's the highest you can get as a third right

938
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 4: the end of the.

939
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 2: Round so right now they're saying the value On Dan

940
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:55,439
Speaker 2: moore's contract is sixty six. Points, okay, yeah, yeah if

941
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 2: you are a third or fourth round, er is anything

942
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 2: under ninety eight?

943
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 3: Points? Okay so they are getting hurt of the points, system.

944
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 2: But they're getting a sixth round pick or a third round,

945
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 2: PICK i should say For Dan.

946
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 3: Moore oh, yeah, yeah that is.

947
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 2: Right that is written in, stone because The steelers are

948
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 2: not going to sign anybody to a who's a real free,

949
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 2: agent to a twenty.

950
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 3: Plus wilson and they don't, count, Right neither one would.

951
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 2: Hurt they wouldn't. Hurt they wouldn't hurt your comp formula at.

952
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 4: All SO i don't know if people know thise. Either

953
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 4: now com. Picks this is a new. Rule it used

954
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 4: to make me insane for. Years you weren't allowed to trade, them,

955
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 4: right you had to make the pick at number one

956
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 4: hundred if you were at one, Hundred like that's so.

957
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 4: Dumb why is it any? Different but, anyway these picks

958
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 4: are not for this upcoming.

959
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 3: Draft, though. Folks these are going to be the twenty

960
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six.

961
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 4: Draft but now teams are so smart they know it's.

962
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 4: Coming so maybe you trade your third round pick next.

963
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 4: Year you don't know where it's going to, be but

964
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 4: you can trade that.

965
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 2: Pick you, know you know that you're going to get

966
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 2: a third round pick For Dan. Moore, well that third

967
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 2: round pick is going to be and the third round

968
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 2: right round pick one hundred.

969
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 4: Somewhere, yeah, yeah but you know it's on the. Way,

970
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 4: yeah and you can't trade those yet until they become.

971
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 2: Until they become a. Fish. Yeah, yeah you can trade

972
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 2: a future, third.

973
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 4: Yes and, yeah kind of like The fields deal is

974
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 4: a future fourth that could be a sixth or, whatever.

975
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 2: And make it that and write that into. It if

976
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 2: we get a, compick then it can be.

977
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 4: This but, yeah but so, no that's something on the

978
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 4: horizon that sets up really. WELL i, mean it is

979
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 4: their future picks and their future cap.

980
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 3: Space.

981
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 2: Yeah and they're not done losing people, yet.

982
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 4: No they even if they lose as much as they.

983
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 4: Gain at this, point you're pretty happy with.

984
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 3: It.

985
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 2: YEAH i mean then you probably if you come with

986
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 2: a three and a. Four, yeah it's, great, fantastic that's.

987
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 4: GREAT i, mean people listen to how many mock, drafts

988
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 4: we do, that you'd love to have an extra, third

989
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 4: or we get end up with an extra third and, like,

990
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 4: boy that draft goes a lot. Better, yeah or you

991
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 4: might need a quarterback and need to trade all those

992
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 4: thirds they get up in ten picks in the first

993
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 4: round or.

994
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 2: Whatever, Yes so it's it's it's all about having the,

995
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:03,240
Speaker 2: FIREPOWER i might add for a team that some people

996
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:07,479
Speaker 2: say really, Stinks steelers have had three guys signed pretty

997
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 2: good deals at this.

998
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 3: Point.

999
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, YEAH i think The addy will make a decent buck,

1000
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 4: too AND i Know daniels will at some point at some. Point, yeah, right,

1001
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 4: Right but, YEAH i mean not every team's getting rated that. Hard, No,

1002
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 4: no certainly, not and anyone. Else it's like at the

1003
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 4: top of that lit they show every comp pick out,

1004
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 4: there or, yeah just anyone else that's like sitting pretty that.

1005
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 2: Way i'm just looking. Here minnesota would have a three

1006
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 2: and a four because they Lost, carnal they lost Cam bine.

1007
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 4: Them as, well could still Lose murphy. Too, YEAH i

1008
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 4: mean they even had any second day, picks and.

1009
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 2: They ALSO i Lost Patrick jones to a big, deal

1010
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 2: the edge. Rusher, yeah the pick. Kid that would be

1011
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 2: a fifth round. Pick but right, now The steelers are

1012
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 2: one of the they have to be. One those are

1013
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 2: the two, three those two of the teams that have

1014
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 2: three compicks right now as we sit, Here, Philly philly

1015
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 2: would have one a third round For Milton williams and

1016
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 2: a sixth rounder For Isaiah. Rodgers but that's six six

1017
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 2: rounder is probably not.

1018
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 3: Going to hold. Up, no, YEAH i Mean i'm not

1019
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 3: sure The steelers six rounder hold.

1020
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 2: Up, yeah right, now if they also lost nause and

1021
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 2: didn't sign an actual free you, know oh.

1022
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah street free, agent then add something even more than.

1023
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 2: Yeah you might get a, six might turn into a.

1024
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 4: Fifth but like, folks If Ogan jobi is signed somewhere else.

1025
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 3: That doesn't, count doesn't you cut? Him?

1026
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 2: Right, yeah But wilson would if they're on expiring, Contracts.

1027
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 3: Yes true free, agent true free.

1028
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 2: Agents they count in your compensatory.

1029
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 4: Formula, no it's it's a big deal in the. League,

1030
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,439
Speaker 4: yeah you get those extra mid round picks that could

1031
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 4: be a cheap starter.

1032
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 2: For four, years absolutely, absolutely or or something, yes firepower

1033
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 2: you can turn into something.

1034
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 3: Better so let's get to a.

1035
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 2: Break he is The Matt, Williamson I'm Dale lelly and

1036
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 2: that's going to do it for our number one here

1037
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 2: on the. Drive matt AND i will be back with

1038
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 2: our number two right after this