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Speaker 1: see welcome back this show, my good friend. As we

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Speaker 1: off today's episode by asking you about your health? Uh,

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Speaker 1: our news. Let's Dan Rubenstein Steve Angeli torre's achilles.

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Speaker 2: That's a weird tone today. Yes, he did tear his achilles.

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Speaker 1: They said two Syracuse players faked injuries. They did not

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Speaker 1: It doesn't need to be pretty. What's your number one rule?

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Speaker 1: It just has to work. It just has to work.

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Speaker 1: It has to work. Speaking of rules, did you see

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Speaker 1: That is a mouthful, Dan, But what they are saying

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Speaker 2: You know, Oklahoma's new to this kind of thing in

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Speaker 2: I'm not so certain given the performance of Auburn on

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Speaker 1: You may recall that the SEC very quickly ratified this

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Speaker 2: I mean Lsubama. If you remember, Nick Saban was not

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Speaker 1: Sean Clark, former coach at app State, unexpectedly passed away.

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Speaker 1: We just got news of this shortly before we hit record.

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Speaker 2: You just got to believe, Dan, I guess so you

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Speaker 1: To believe in yourself, to believe in one another man,

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Speaker 2: That's all I can tell you, Dan.

435
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Speaker 1: The question is do we believe in these five teams? Though?

436
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 1: Got five teams in front of me today. We kicked

437
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 1: around maybe doing a hot seat segment here? Do we

438
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 1: believe in coaches? Do we not believe in coaches? But

439
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: they're all in the hot seat, which tells you that

440
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 1: we kind of don't believe in them. I want to

441
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 1: talk about teams, Dog, Okay, Dog, let's talk about some teams.

442
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 1: Have you seen enough to truly, deeply, madly believe in

443
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 1: Florida State at this point, Dan Rybstein.

444
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 2: I have not seen enough. No, I have not seen enough.

445
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 2: I think the win against Alabama was great, is great.

446
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 2: Since then it's went East Texas, A and M and

447
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 2: Kent State terrific. They behaved like a top team should

448
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 2: against those teams. I can't unsee what I saw last

449
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,640
Speaker 2: season from Florida State. I think I like Tom Castelano's

450
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 2: Big Tom, Big Tom Callahan, Big Tom Callahan. I'm just

451
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 2: not in on Florida State yet. The underlying numbers are

452
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 2: very good for the most part, but mean nothing because

453
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 2: it sort of takes two to tango as well. In

454
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 2: that Florida State Bama game, it wasn't just Florida State

455
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:16,120
Speaker 2: demoralizing Alabama. It was internal with Alabama with the way

456
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 2: that they played, the manner in which they gave or

457
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 2: didn't give effort, like there was something inside Alabama that

458
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 2: needed fixing, and Florida State took advantage like a really

459
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Speaker 2: good team. But I am not swayed fully to the

460
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 2: side of Florida State is back. They are a top

461
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 2: ten team, They're going to behave as such all season long,

462
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 2: and double digit wins is a reasonable expectations all of

463
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Speaker 2: the sudden. So no, I am not a believer in

464
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 2: Florida State yet.

465
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 1: There's a belief thing going on with their points spread

466
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 1: on Friday night, by the way, there is so they

467
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: play Virginia. They're on the road at Virginia on Friday night.

468
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 1: I don't understand this line at all. It's an interesting line.

469
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: Tie and generally that's when you steer into it. But

470
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: Virginia at home is only a six and a half

471
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: point dog. It is a look ahead spot for Florida

472
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 1: State because they've got the big home game coming up

473
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 1: in Week six against Miami, which would be enormous. That'll

474
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 1: be the game of the week.

475
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 2: You were assuming it would be a bigger line. You

476
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 2: were assuming would be like nine and a half points

477
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 2: for Florida State.

478
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, with how much steams on Florida State. Maybe

479
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 1: this is belief in Virginia. Maybe that's what Vegas is

480
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: telling us here, because Virginia's look pretty good, and hell,

481
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: if you look at what Virginia's got in front of him,

482
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,919
Speaker 1: they could randomly end up eight and four, nine and

483
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: three and that would not be a stretch.

484
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Speaker 2: The roster is definitely better than where it was last

485
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 2: season when they beat Tommy Castellanos at Boston College. Yeah,

486
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Speaker 2: I believe in Florida State.

487
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 1: I do. I think the manner in which they have

488
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 1: started their season has been enough to boot up the

489
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: belief factor once more, and they're clearly doing things differently.

490
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 1: They are clearly trying to take advantage of Gus Melzan

491
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: and his knowledge of offenses and in this case Tom

492
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: Callahan slash Castellanos. Yeah, I believe in Florida State one game,

493
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 1: it's all tuck.

494
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 2: Game one, the least important game of the season. It's

495
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 2: all tuck.

496
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Speaker 1: It's all took man. Okay, But they've looked really good.

497
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: You know, they've looked really good.

498
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 2: They have.

499
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Speaker 1: I understand that they have not necessarily played the toughest

500
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 1: of competition. That certainly is a valid point. But I

501
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 1: would just add, they are killing teams.

502
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 2: Great, They're gonna win the MAC.

503
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 1: They are just membering teams.

504
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 2: Were you the type of person when you would see

505
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 2: a young lady from like across a lecture hall or

506
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 2: a bar, restaurant or somebody, are.

507
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: Like, one day, I'm gonna marry that girl.

508
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 2: Just because you happen to catch her gaze. No, one day,

509
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 2: Because I mean, it's one game, and it's a great

510
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 2: game to set a tone. But you got a little

511
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 2: see a little bit more from a team who went

512
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 2: to and ten. That's all.

513
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 1: Since we're talking about Florida State, let's talk about Miami.

514
00:26:56,040 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 1: Let's so these two play each other week six. Clearly

515
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: it's going to be one of the games that we

516
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: have to preview in advance. It's going to be huge.

517
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: Have we seen enough at disjuncture to believe in Miami?

518
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 2: Yes, I think so. I agree, it's just because of

519
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 2: the manner and we have more data based on teams

520
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 2: that they've played in that they've played a horrific Notre

521
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 2: Dame team and Florida now and they've performed in a

522
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 2: way where I'm not positive there anywhere near a finished product,

523
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 2: which is a good thing for Miami hopefully, but their

524
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 2: starting point of being better than everybody on their schedule,

525
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 2: I believe along the lines, given the experience, given where

526
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,479
Speaker 2: they are health wise right now. I don't know how

527
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 2: you can look at this Miami team and say, like,

528
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 2: get ready for eight and four, just because it's really

529
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 2: hard to go eight and four in the ACC when

530
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 2: you have crisp quarterback play and a really good set

531
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 2: of lines. It's just very difficult to be that bad

532
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 2: and give away those types of games when you're going

533
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 2: to have that kind of trench advantage. So yeah, I'm

534
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 2: a believer.

535
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 1: I'm a believer so far, but I do think the

536
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 1: hump that they need to get.

537
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 2: Over pit your pit panthers.

538
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: Well we can laugh about that, but they are on

539
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: the road at pitt to close out the same they are,

540
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: And I think the broader point is they're also on

541
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: the road next week against Florida State. They've got a

542
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 1: road tilt at the beginning of November against SMU. I

543
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: don't necessarily think that Virginia Tech's going to put up

544
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: much of a fight when they play later in the year.

545
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: But stranger things have happened in Lane Stadium. We saw

546
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: this Miami team, a very very good Miami team last year,

547
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: crumble down the stretch in some key road spots.

548
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 2: That's Jamie Wireless, baby.

549
00:28:55,640 --> 00:29:00,040
Speaker 1: Everybody does. This is not wrong, but we need to

550
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: see how they look away from home. I agree, so

551
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: at far it's been Notre Dame. They look good. I

552
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: thought for the most part against Notre Dame, save for

553
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: maybe the last quarter and a half. Clearly what they

554
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: did against Florida this past week, the defense came to

555
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: play USF the way they took apart USF. I think

556
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: that will go down as a much better win than

557
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: many people are giving you credit for right now.

558
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 2: Is it worrisome that Miami only scored twenty seven against

559
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 2: Notre Dame After saying Notre Dame.

560
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: Subsequently, it's worrying that Notre Dame was able to claw

561
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: their way back into that game. And it's worrying because.

562
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 2: I think we think the Notre Dame offense is good, right, I.

563
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: Think Notre Dame offense is outstanding, and I think Cvia

564
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: Carr is actually the real deal and very very okay cool.

565
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: But I worry about Mario mode. They did it again

566
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: against Florida. They went super conservative. For a hot minute,

567
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: it felt like Florida might find a way back into

568
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: that thing. They didn't, right, But there will be ample

569
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: opportunities the rest of the way, especially because I think

570
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: Miami's better than most of these teams on the schedule,

571
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: maybe with the exception of Florida State, depending how you

572
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: feel about the Noles, but everybody else here they should

573
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: be better. And so the question is can they get

574
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: over that hump? Can they really make me believe that

575
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: they're not going to give away a game late in

576
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: a stupid fashion because they go ultra conservative. That's the

577
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: next remaining hurdle. If you want me to be hook

578
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: Line and Sinker a true believer in the Canes, But

579
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: for right now, based on what we're seeing it's hard

580
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: not to believe they've looked really good.

581
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 2: Ten wins would.

582
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: Be a failure ish for this my kind of would

583
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: with the way they've started.

584
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and what's left? Okay, next team, Indiana. I'm

585
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 2: a believer. Yeah, I am a believer. Not that I

586
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 2: was a huge believer in Illinois, but again it's the

587
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 2: manner in which and their non conference schedule is not

588
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 2: indicative of much, but when you look how precisely they

589
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 2: picked apart Illinois, now they have Penn State and Oregon

590
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 2: on the road or I think in a couple weeks,

591
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 2: I think there's a buy between Oregon, Penn State and

592
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 2: Oregon Indiana. But we saw it last season from Indiana

593
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 2: against a lesser schedule. I think a healthy Fernando Mendoza

594
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 2: likely has a higher ceiling than a beat up Curtis Rourke.

595
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 2: And I'm just I'm in man. The eye test is there,

596
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 2: the speed is there, the how well coached this team

597
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 2: seems to be is there. And I mean kurtz Signetti

598
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 2: is what sixty four sixty five, He's a finished product

599
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 2: as a coach, I think at this point, and that's

600
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 2: an amazing product. I think they check a lot of boxes.

601
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 2: Even if they go ten to two and lose those

602
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 2: two games to Oregon Penn State, I think they're just

603
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 2: you look at the rest of the Big Ten and

604
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 2: where teams have very clear and specific flaws and weaknesses.

605
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 2: I think Indiana is just built to to threaten double

606
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 2: digits again the very least.

607
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: They are not playing for Mario mode now, you know.

608
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: And that's the difference. And that's part of why I

609
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: also believe in Indiana. Now, my belief has limits with

610
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: these guys. I think they're very good. I think they're

611
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: probably better than they were a year ago, which is

612
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: saying something because this team went to the playoffs a

613
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: year ago. This is a harder schedule, yep in twenty

614
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: twenty five, and we need to at least mention that

615
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: they've looked really, really good so far. They looked awesome

616
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: at home against Illinois. This week they are on the

617
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: road at Iowa. Now I don't think super highly of Iowa.

618
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: I've had a full evolution in my thought around the

619
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: Hawkeyes at this point. But hey, tough defense on the road,

620
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: crowd will be fired up, perhaps a bit of a

621
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: letdown spot. Let's see what they do there.

622
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 2: That look ahead.

623
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oregon in a couple weeks on the road in

624
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: Audstin Stadium, That'll be an incredible opportunity to show what

625
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: they can do against one of the better teams in

626
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: the country. Also on the road at Penn State. It's

627
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: a tough road schedule, man, that's really really tough. They

628
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: do get Penn State a week after the Ohio State game.

629
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: After Penn State plays Ohio State on the road. Yeah,

630
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: so perhaps there's a bit of a letdown effect in

631
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: play for Penn State, but they will have more opportunities

632
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: here to show what they are made of. If nothing more,

633
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: they have proven that when they get up on you,

634
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: they are going for the throat. And I don't hate that.

635
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: I don't hate that in my college football team. That's

636
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: part of why I believe in this team again for

637
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: the second straight year.

638
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 2: I'll say it. I'll say it out loud. Tie Indiana

639
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 2: winning the Old Oaken Bucket this season.

640
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: There we go.

641
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,719
Speaker 2: Put me down. Texas Tech. I think I'm a believer,

642
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 2: ty are you a believer.

643
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: In Texas Tech? With Baron Morton or Will Hammond? Are

644
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: you a believer in Texas Tech? Regardless of which one

645
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: of those two guys plays right, How do we feel

646
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: about where they fit into the broader Big Twelve conversation?

647
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 2: At this point, I feel great about where they fit in,

648
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 2: no matter who that quarterback is, even if they lose

649
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 2: a game or two, with whichever quarterback ends up getting

650
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 2: the lion's share of the work under center. Mostly because Houston, Kansas,

651
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 2: Arizona State, which might be tough, but they're not only

652
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,240
Speaker 2: running away from teams in the moment, especially on defense.

653
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State, Kansas State BYU likely tough, UCF, I'm gonna

654
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 2: need to see more, and West Virginia. It would actually

655
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 2: take a lot in this moment, injury wise, or something

656
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 2: catastrophic internally like that, just the locker room is splintered,

657
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 2: something like that for Texas Tech to not have a

658
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 2: sensational season. If they are good, not even great. If

659
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 2: they are good, they should win ten games against this

660
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 2: schedule from here on out.

661
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Speaker 1: If they are half decent, they should be in the

662
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Speaker 1: Big Twelve title game. Yes, given that schedule.

663
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 2: Teams can grow, teams, can you know, have weird stretches.

664
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Speaker 2: Of course, ASU will be a tough out. BYU will

665
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 2: be a tough out. Kansas State on the road.

666
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Speaker 1: Who knows. I'm not thinking too highly of k State

667
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: at this point, but maybe by November they'll get their

668
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: act together and then closing out the year on the

669
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Speaker 1: road at West Virginia, which is not the easiest place

670
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 1: to play in. West Virginia is already shown I think

671
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: more fight than many have thought. But yeah, based on

672
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Speaker 1: what we have seen so far, you go to Utah,

673
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: you win that game going away thirty four to ten.

674
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Speaker 1: There aren't many other teams on the schedule that you

675
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: look at and shutter with fear. I agree in theory,

676
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 1: if you take Utah down in rights Echos, you should

677
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: be able to go to Tempe and beat Arizona State.

678
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,720
Speaker 1: You should be able to go to Bill Snyder Family

679
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: Stadium and take down Ky State, should be able to

680
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: go to West Virginia and take down West Virginia.

681
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 2: They need to get cleaner on offense. It was a

682
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 2: little bit too mistake prone penalties and such at Utah,

683
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 2: but they're just not going to have that combination. I

684
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 2: don't think of defense and road atmosphere on this schedule.

685
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: So I'm a believer to the extent that the schedule

686
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: is outstanding and it sets up really well for them.

687
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: I am a non believer from the standpoint of Texas

688
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,240
Speaker 1: Tech's never really been here before.

689
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's sort of like Indiana. You're going to

690
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 2: say in your believer in Indiana. Indiana was never there before.

691
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 2: Texas Tech hasn't finished ranked in sixteen seventeen years. But

692
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 2: it's a different looking roster.

693
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: I don't know it is it is Oklahoma.

694
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 2: I'm not a believer. I'm a believer in the improvement.

695
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 2: I'm a believer in the fun I'm not a believer

696
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 2: that the wins are going to continue at this pace. Why,

697
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 2: I'm going to need to see more consistent from a

698
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 2: downfield passing attack. I'm going to need to see what

699
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 2: happens to this offense if faced with adversity against some

700
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,919
Speaker 2: of the teams on this schedule. The schedule is gonna

701
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,240
Speaker 2: get harder, right, This is a great year to get Michigan.

702
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 2: We'll see on what kind of year it is to

703
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 2: get Auburn. But I think everybody with a defensive line

704
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 2: with a heartbeat might have some fun against Auburn this season.

705
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 2: I just it's a schedule thing, and it's the way

706
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 2: this offensive roster is built thing that you do need

707
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 2: somebody who can put a lot of fear into defenses

708
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 2: out wide. I think they're fine there. I think they

709
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 2: have guys who can make plays, but I just don't

710
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,720
Speaker 2: think the roster is there to get to like ten wins.

711
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: I am a believer in the overhauld roster. I am

712
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: clearly a believer in the defense. I think the defense

713
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: is legit.

714
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

715
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: I am clearly a believer in John Mattier and his

716
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: ability to work well with ben Arbuckle. I am not

717
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: a believer in this offense as a whole, though, because

718
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: this is still a very matere centric offense. They are

719
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 1: heavily dependent on whatever he can provide. They didn't really

720
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 1: run the ball at all, and they have not really

721
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 1: run the ball that well so far this season.

722
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 2: And what do you need to do in the red zone?

723
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 2: What do you need to do in.

724
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: The red zone? You gotta be able to run. You

725
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: got to be able to run a little bit. Yeah,

726
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: and maybe this is a little bit of what Brian

727
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: Kelly was intimating when he went on his rant two

728
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: weeks ago. Now, you know, we ran the ball fine

729
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 1: when we had to. Okay, there's a school of thought there.

730
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: Maybe Oklahoma just needs to run it well when they

731
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,399
Speaker 1: have to outside of John Matier. But I'm looking at

732
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: the schedule and I'm thinking there are some defenses here

733
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: that if you are so Materi centric, you're not gonna

734
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 1: be able to beat him. They're going to know it's coming,

735
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 1: especially by the time you get into November. Those final five, Yeah, LSU, Alabama,

736
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: even Missoo, even Tennessee.

737
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: Like these are the road yep.

738
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: These are teams that are good enough defensively, if nothing more,

739
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: to shut down to some degree what you're trying to

740
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 1: do with Matier, unless he's good enough to win the Heisman,

741
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: in which case all this goes out the window. That

742
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: is what I am fearful of with Oklahoma, that they

743
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: are essentially counting on a Heisman caliber season from John

744
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: Mattier in order to make it through the schedule and

745
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: perhaps go go somewhere in the SEC. The SEC to me,

746
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: feels like it's enormously in flux at the moment. We

747
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:27,760
Speaker 1: will get some clarity, hopefully this weekend, but I would

748
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: just like to see a little bit more before I'd

749
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: fully throw my hat in the ring, before I'd hold

750
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: up my belief sign for Oklahoma. I like what they're doing.

751
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: I think the trend is in a good direction. I

752
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 1: would just like to see a more complete offensive effort

753
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: before I'm ready to sign up my name next to him.

754
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, if it were an easier schedule, I think it

755
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: would be easier to believe.

756
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: No, well, that's true as well. Yeah, right in saliverbogmail

757
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: dot com. Let us know in the comments who you're

758
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: believing in, who you're not believing in, and of course,

759
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: as always, let us know why.

760
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, what are your thoughts?

761
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 1: Brown?

762
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? Brown University?

763
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: First game this week? Didn't they lose? I believe they lost.

764
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 2: I thought they won.

765
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: Did they win? I don't even know.

766
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 2: I think we got a message that I said something. Yeah,

767
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 2: they won. They destroyed Georgetown forty six to nothing. Remember

768
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 2: I said, you don't just go into Rhode Island. It's

769
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 2: a weird state. Yeah, forty six nothing. Okay, I believe

770
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 2: I believe in Brown.

771
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 1: Sure I do too.

772
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 2: Let's play.

773
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: Let's pick some games early Bird special. So before we

774
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Speaker 1: go into this, I would just like to submit to

775
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 1: you the idea of story Time Saturday as the game

776
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: for week. What is this four? Week?

777
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 2: Four?

778
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: Right?

779
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 2: Yep?

780
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: Story Time It is so early. The only way to

781
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: pick these games is to basically invent the story and

782
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: convince yourself that it's going to happen. Okay, And so

783
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,959
Speaker 1: we've got three games here. We're going to talk about

784
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: the three highest ranked games on a loaded week. There

785
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,919
Speaker 1: are many other games. We'll get through all of them,

786
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: if not all of them, most of them on the

787
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: next episode. But I found myself in all three of

788
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: these cases looking at the spreadsheet, not really finding a

789
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: huge disparity that I could hang my hat on, and

790
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: in effect inventing a story and telling it to myself

791
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: over and over again until I felt confident in it. Okay,

792
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: storytime Saturday.

793
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 2: For me a mantra. Okay, I'm okay with that.

794
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 1: Three point thirty on ABC. It is the LSU Tigers.

795
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 1: It is the Old Miss Rebels, number four against number thirteen,

796
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: Old missus favorite at home by two points. Now, the

797
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: biggest story that nobody is talking about right now is

798
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: this quarterback debate at Old Miss, because I think it's

799
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 1: a real debate. On one hand, you've got Austin Simmons,

800
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: who won the job out of camp, has clearly shown flashes,

801
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: but has been prone to turnovers and more recently some injuries,

802
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 1: and then on the other you've got Trinidad Chamblis as

803
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 1: a transfer from Farris State. You talked to Bill Connolly

804
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 1: before the year about Trinidad Chamblis.

805
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 2: Well, Bill Connelly just wrote about him that he was

806
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 2: a believer in him in his Old Miss preview. Was

807
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 2: part of his sec preview.

808
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a huge believer in Trinidad Chambliss. And why not.

809
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: Trinidad Chamblis has been absolute money every time he has

810
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: seen the field so far, obviously played last week for

811
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: the injured Austin Simmons. Every season we have forks in

812
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: the road like this every season, every team. Most of

813
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: them we only realize in hindsight. But this is one

814
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: I think that we understand in the moment. Certainly Lane

815
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: Kiffen understands it in the moment. This is a huge

816
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: moment for him. It's a huge deal for Old Miss

817
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: to get this right. If it's me, and nobody has

818
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: called to ask my opinion, But if it is me,

819
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 1: I say, Austin Simmons looks like the future. I think

820
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: you got to ride the hot hand. I think you

821
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 1: got to stick with Trinidad Chambliss. I think he should

822
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: be the pick for this game on Saturday at home

823
00:42:59,280 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: against LSU.

824
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 2: I think he's really good. I think he's also smaller

825
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 2: and doesn't have a huge arm. He looks like an

826
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 2: incredible athlete, is fearless, goes downfield under through some dudes.

827
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 2: You know it's a new level if you're dealing with

828
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 2: new type of speed and new types of defenses to

829
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 2: try and understand. I kind of think Austin Simmons is

830
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 2: a less exciting quarterback, but the best of him might

831
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 2: be better given his familiarity in this offense against LSU.

832
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 2: I don't know what his health is, though. I think

833
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 2: Chamblis is really good. I'm sold on him as a

834
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 2: good SEC quarterback. I am. But this LSU defense is

835
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,439
Speaker 2: fast and angry. I don't know, man. They turned DJ

836
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 2: Lagway over five times. Florida offense is broken. That's fine.

837
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 2: I trust Lane kiffen to to sort of create a

838
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 2: vision and create an offense to get over LSU.

839
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Speaker 1: Do you think that LSU's defense is definitely that much better? Yes,

840
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: because it's fair to wonder about those wins over Clemson

841
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: in Florida.

842
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't think. I don't think it's completely fixed. No,

843
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 2: I'd like to see better quarterback play than Cade Klubnick

844
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 2: and DJ Lagway. As crazy as that would sound to

845
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 2: say in August, crazy right, crazy, that's absolutely on point.

846
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

847
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 2: I mean ole Miss was right there to win this

848
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 2: game last season when LSU had an offense. So I'm

849
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 2: not sold that LSU won't have an offense this year.

850
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 2: I'm not sold that LSU has completely fixed their defense.

851
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 2: The game's in Oxford. Yeah, I think I like ole

852
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 2: Miss here. The worst thing on this field right now

853
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 2: is LSU on offense. Brian Kelly's losing his mind when

854
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 2: he's asked about, Oh, your offense has been a little

855
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 2: bit disappointing. You can't run the ball. We won a game.

856
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 2: We won, guy, what are you talking about that?

857
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 1: We want that they can run the balls.

858
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 2: They can't run. They haven't been able to run the

859
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 2: ball this year. Maybe practice is a different story. Maybe

860
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 2: running against the scout team, they look a lot better.

861
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 1: The numbers, for whatever they're worth, after four weeks, the

862
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,919
Speaker 1: numbers would say otherwise, the numbers would say that even

863
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: if they do run on occasion, they certainly can't do

864
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 1: it consistently. Yeah, And if you're going at old Miss. Frankly,

865
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: they're way more gettable on the ground than they are

866
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: in the air. Agreed, So it should be there. Like

867
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: if Brian Kelly's theory here is that yes, we can

868
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: run the ball, we just haven't always shown you. This

869
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: should be a week where they show the rest of

870
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,919
Speaker 1: the world, because that is how per the numbers. Yeah,

871
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 1: seemingly would want to go out. Old Miss.

872
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 2: Agree, And you know what, Florida's defense comes to play.

873
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 2: Maybe Clemson's doesn't, but Florida's defense, despite its offensive issues,

874
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 2: has shown up this year. So that's a tough defense

875
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 2: to play against. I guess LSU. I mean Brian Kelly

876
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 2: has talked about how Garrettnsmeyer has had torso injury, swordis

877
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 2: type things. I don't love that. I just I don't know.

878
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna give the advantage to Lane Kiffin

879
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 2: at home here to find thirty points because I think

880
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 2: that's the number that these teams need to vaguely get to,

881
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 2: and I don't trust LSU to get there. So I

882
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 2: think LICs who's gonna make plays on defense? And I

883
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 2: think Old Miss is gonna make plays on offense. I

884
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 2: have Old what's the line here?

885
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: Two?

886
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 2: Yeah? I have Old Miss winning this twenty twenty four.

887
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: The other question I have is whether we're going to

888
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: see Old Miss blitz a little bit more than they have.

889
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: They've played three quarterbacks so far this year, Zach Calzada,

890
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: Taylor Green, Jake Retzlov, who are good runners, and I

891
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 1: think that's part of why they haven't blitzed that much

892
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,479
Speaker 1: at all this season, a lot less this season than last.

893
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 1: Garrett Nustmeyer is not a runner. He's not, so are

894
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: they going to try to dial up more pressure? Are

895
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: they going to try to force a mistake, especially if

896
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: LSU can't run? That to me is something I think

897
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: worth monitoring. The story that I've invented and told myself

898
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 1: now please is that LSU's not gonna be able to

899
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: run effectively. They're going to put a lot on Garrettnsmeyer,

900
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 1: that Old Miss is going to bring more pressure and

901
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: force a mistake, that we're going to see trinidadd Chambliss

902
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 1: out there, and that his legs ultimately are the difference.

903
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 1: I've got this as a high scoring affair. I'm with you.

904
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: I think Old Miss wins. I've got it at thirty seven, thirty.

905
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 2: Three, okay, four point victory we do agree.

906
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 1: Let's move to seven point thirty on ABC. Dan Rubinstein,

907
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: Let's Alabama Georgia Georgia right now a time of recording

908
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: midday Monday, A three point favorite, Dan Rubinstein. Yeah, both

909
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: teams were on a bye last week. You may recall

910
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 1: this game from a year ago, Alabama one. It was

911
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: in Tuscaloosa, but it was a big win for Klein

912
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 1: Bill was On paper, this looks about as close as

913
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 1: any matchup I can remember. It looks very close. Yeah,

914
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: you can only get so much from again, four weeks

915
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 1: worth of numbers. But from what we have seen so far,

916
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: Alabama's pretty pass heavy. I don't think we've seen anything

917
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: reliable from them on the ground, but Georgia has been

918
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: very gettable through the air, So maybe that plays well

919
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 1: for Alabama. And then on the Georgia side, definitely trying

920
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: to run the ball. They don't profile as a great

921
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 1: rushing team. They're rushing attempts work about fifty percent of

922
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: the time. But Alabama notably has had some trouble with tackling.

923
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: Tackling hasn't been great so far this season. So in theory,

924
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: maybe that works to George's favor. You know, you play

925
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: physical brand of football. You force the issue on the ground.

926
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: You make guys tackle and open space, either because you're

927
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: running the ball or you're trying to do some of

928
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 1: those quick hitters to a guy like a Zachariah Branch,

929
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,919
Speaker 1: make them tackle you an open space. Maybe that works

930
00:48:56,000 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: their advantage, right, Just some thoughts yet with this one.

931
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 2: I think I really like Georgia. I think I do

932
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 2: really in Georgia. Yeah, why Okay? So obviously in Athens, uh,

933
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,760
Speaker 2: they the way that they found a way got fortunate

934
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 2: in a number of ways to beat Tennessee on the road.

935
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 2: But seeing how much more fearless Gunner Stockton was through

936
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 2: the air than I thought he would be in some

937
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 2: of those spots that helped me. I'm not putting a

938
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 2: ton of stock in Alabama's win over Wisconsin, especially if

939
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 2: they just if Marilynd replicated what Alabama did more or less,

940
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 2: I think Alabama's going to play more inspired than what

941
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 2: they did against Florida State. I just I haven't seen

942
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 2: Ty Simpson in a spot like this show out right.

943
00:49:53,920 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 2: And Alabama can't really run, and they've had offensive line issues,

944
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 2: and now they're playing at night in Athens against this

945
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:10,479
Speaker 2: front and I love Ryan Williams, but I don't think

946
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 2: this offense is going to specifically try to do with

947
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 2: him what Tennessee did with Chris Brasel, Like, I don't

948
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 2: think they're going to just have him go deep for

949
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 2: fifty to fifty balls for four quarters. And so I

950
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,879
Speaker 2: do like Klein de Borr and Ryan Grubb, and they're

951
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 2: past of scheming up a passing offense to you know,

952
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 2: take the roof off of teams. I think that was

953
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 2: the worst game that Georgia's secondary was going to have,

954
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 2: and they've had time to correct things. I just I

955
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 2: don't have the trust in Alabama that I wish I

956
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 2: would if I were going to pick them against Georgia

957
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 2: on the road in this spot. So there's a lot

958
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 2: about Georgia I don't love. I think the offense has

959
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 2: been inconsistent this season. I don't like their pass defense.

960
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 2: But I still think there are more ways for them

961
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 2: to win this game.

962
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: So what with Georgia, ty Simms, You bring up a

963
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: good point on ty Simpson and the Alabama passing offense.

964
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: It has been more pass heavy. It does look like

965
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 1: Georgia is gettable through the air, at least per the numbers,

966
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: But there has been some time perhaps a correct that

967
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: I am curious to see if Georgia blitz is Ty

968
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: Simpson more than we have seen so far two straight

969
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,399
Speaker 1: games now for Ty Simpson, where he's been virtually unstoppable,

970
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 1: but teams have only been blitzing him about nineteen percent

971
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: of the time he drops back. You compare that with

972
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,760
Speaker 1: what Georgia has done so far this season. They blitz

973
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: about a third of the time, so they're much more

974
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: oriented around the blitz than any of the teams that

975
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: Alabama has faced so far. I think they're going to

976
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 1: bring the heat. I think they're going to force the issue.

977
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: If Alabama wants to stay this pass heavy, Ty Simpson

978
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: is going to need to play a really, really sound game,

979
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: and he's going to need to prove that in the

980
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 1: face of pressure he can be as efficient as reliable

981
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: as a response as he's been the last two weeks.

982
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: And I don't think that's easy on the road at

983
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,479
Speaker 1: night against Georgia. So he's got a lot to prove

984
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: in my view in this game. The other thing that

985
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 1: I would call out, and you were right to mention

986
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 1: this about Georgia with their offense, but I think their

987
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 1: effectiveness when they throw the ball is also worth a

988
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: conversation here a Greece is not especially explosive when it

989
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: comes to throwing the football. Seventy seven percent of their

990
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: targets have been within ten yards of the line of scrimmage.

991
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:29,919
Speaker 1: We have a term for that here on the show.

992
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: Can you remind the fine fixaball? That is almost the

993
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:38,280
Speaker 1: textbook definition of a pickleball passing offense. Now, again, it's early.

994
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if we can take those numbers is

995
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 1: gospel at this point?

996
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 2: No, I don't think we should.

997
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 1: We've also seen Georgia take some shots in key moments

998
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 1: right Notably, we made a video about the throw from

999
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 1: Gunner Stockton to London Humphreyes against Tennessee. That was a

1000
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: big moment. So we're seeing shots. We're also seeing those

1001
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: shots mostly against man coverage. And the reason for that,

1002
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: in my view, is because Georgia still wants to try

1003
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,439
Speaker 1: and run the football. Teams know that Georgia is trying

1004
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 1: to force the issue and run the football. You've got

1005
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: to commit more resources to stopping that. What happens when

1006
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 1: you do that. You can't just drop back and play

1007
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 1: zone all the time. You got to leave some of

1008
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 1: your corners, some of your guys in the secondary, out

1009
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:16,760
Speaker 1: on an island, and that's when they're taking those shots.

1010
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: Bama this year has been very good at stopping the run.

1011
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 1: BAMA had been pretty good at playing zone defense against

1012
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: the pass. If Bama is good enough to shut down

1013
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: the run without over committing, without doing what I just described,

1014
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 1: without giving Georgia some favorable matchups that they can take

1015
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: advantage of, that could potentially be a game changer for them.

1016
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: This is why I say I've got all these signals

1017
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: coming in that are in conflict with each other. I

1018
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,240
Speaker 1: like aspects of Georgia, but I could very easily invent

1019
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 1: the story in which Alabama has a counter and vice versa.

1020
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: I think it's close. I do think there is a

1021
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: revenge factor at play for Georgia. I am absolutely convinced

1022
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: in Gunner Stockton being the dude, especially with what I

1023
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 1: saw on the road at Tennessee. I mean, you want

1024
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: to talk about a big balls throw down the sideline

1025
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,959
Speaker 1: to London Humphreys, I've said it until I'm blowing the face.

1026
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 1: I'll continue to say it. That was a big time throw.

1027
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: I like Georgia to win. I got it at thirty

1028
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: three twenty four.

1029
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, we.

1030
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 1: And last, but certainly not least seven point thirty NBC.

1031
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: It is your Oregon Ducks. It is my Penn State

1032
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 1: Nitney Lions. The points spread at time of recording is

1033
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 1: Penn State minus three and one half points. It was

1034
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: bounced around in my brain before we hit record here

1035
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: that this reminds me a lot of two thousand and

1036
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: five when I went to a game with a friend.

1037
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: I was a Notre Dame fan, he was a USC

1038
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: fan and we saw the Bush push.

1039
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 2: Oh sure, twenty years ago.

1040
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,760
Speaker 1: Twenty gosh, twenty years ago. Yeah, thanks, thanks for that reminder,

1041
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: of course, But could we see another class game like this?

1042
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 1: As I'm in attendance with a friend who is rooting

1043
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: for the other team on the field, it's a good question. Again,

1044
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 1: we will be at this game. If you will be

1045
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: at this game, Sliverble at gmail dot com, hit us up.

1046
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: We'd love to meet up if we can.

1047
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 2: Tis about six to six. He won't be able to

1048
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 2: miss him, can't miss me.

1049
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 1: Tough spot for Oregon Dan, very tough tough spot on

1050
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 1: the road at night, white out in State College. Have

1051
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 1: you been to a white out before.

1052
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 2: I have I think it was a white out. I

1053
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 2: went to Jimmy Clawson's first game Notre Dame Penn State

1054
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 2: two thousand and seven. I don't have like a white

1055
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 2: house white house a white out index. Yeah, but it

1056
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 2: seemed like a very large game and it was I

1057
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 2: think at night. So I don't know when they did

1058
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 2: the white out in two thousand and seven, but that's

1059
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 2: that's where I was.

1060
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: There's been definitely more of a effort to make the

1061
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 1: white out a thing since then. Yeah, the white out

1062
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 1: wasn't always a round, but the white out is very

1063
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: much around now, and the white out is very much

1064
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:03,439
Speaker 1: going to play a factor. I think in this game

1065
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 1: at night. NBC again will be covering this one. Oregon

1066
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 1: looks like they get penalized a lot on defense as

1067
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 1: this Penn State. Oregon is blitzing but not getting as

1068
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 1: much pressure as I'd expect. So I've got a question

1069
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: about their defensive line underperforming.

1070
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 2: I wouldn't. They've just played teams who have just tried

1071
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 2: to throw the ball in half a second to combat

1072
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 2: organ But yeah.

1073
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: I've got a question about whether we think Penn State

1074
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: can run on Oregon. Okay, because based again at what

1075
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 1: I'm seeing on a spreadsheet, it looks like, okay, maybe

1076
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: they're gettable, But again, how much do we really take

1077
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,399
Speaker 1: that to the bank. I don't know. On the Penn

1078
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: State side, I think it's been more of a trend

1079
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: that they have not been super duper explosive. This is

1080
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: not a new thing. This is the case last year

1081
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 1: as well. So we've got a couple things floating around

1082
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 1: out there, at least with respect to spreadsheets and numbers

1083
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: and early tendencies that were picking up. It's tough to

1084
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,280
Speaker 1: know exactly what we should focus on, what we shouldn't.

1085
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: What are you focused on?

1086
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 2: I think I'm focused on quarterbacks and offensive lines more

1087
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 2: than anything because I don't know. Oregon might have issues

1088
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 2: stopping the run a little bit, and obviously Penn State

1089
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 2: has two terrific running backs. But to me, it's what

1090
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 2: is the architecture of Penn State's offense. Are they going

1091
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 2: to be able to stop Oregon's edge rushers, especially Matteo

1092
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 2: uyangl Lay And what is Oregon's offensive line going to

1093
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 2: look like against a very good Penn State front? And

1094
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 2: it's a pretty new Oregon offensive line. Two new tackles,

1095
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 2: a new guard, and then it's a new quarterback trying

1096
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 2: to make sense of everything in a very hostile road

1097
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 2: environment for Oregon, whereas Drew Aller obviously has a ton

1098
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 2: of seasoning at Penn State. With these offensive linemen in

1099
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 2: these big games, the good news for Pens is they're

1100
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 2: at home. The good news for Penn State is there's

1101
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 2: a ton back on this defense. And so if you

1102
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 2: have an electric home field advantage and a defense and

1103
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 2: an experienced quarterback, why would you pick anybody else? Answer?

1104
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 2: Penn State never wins these games. Penn State didn't score

1105
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 2: on offense in this game last year against Ohio State, right,

1106
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 2: that was a white out. That was a noon white out.

1107
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 2: I want to say when we were at Michigan Oregon,

1108
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 2: I want to say, Penn State doesn't perform in these

1109
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 2: games under James Franklin. Now they hired Ohio State's defensive

1110
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 2: coordinator to fix things, but I don't know if defense

1111
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 2: was really the issue last season. They've got a good coordinator,

1112
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 2: but I think to beat Oregon this season, I kind

1113
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 2: of think you need to have game changing guys on offense.

1114
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 2: Penn State has that at running back, at least with

1115
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,919
Speaker 2: k Tron Allen, We'll see what Nick Singleton. They don't

1116
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 2: have Tyler Warren, they don't have an obvious stud receiver

1117
00:58:56,160 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 2: in this moment. Maybe that guy develops. We just score

1118
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 2: points to beat Oregon. Whatever Oregon's flaws are this season,

1119
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 2: I still feel like you're gonna need to score thirty

1120
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 2: points to beat the Ducks. And Drew Aller hasn't been

1121
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 2: that the pass but six seven, eight games, playoff games,

1122
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 2: non playoff games, Villanova, whatever. This hasn't been like a

1123
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 2: Penn State offense. That's been just like, all right, now,

1124
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 2: this guy's turned up the seam. Now that guy's turned

1125
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 2: for a screen to take it seventy yards. It's not

1126
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 2: Penn State. And so I think Oregon is the better team.

1127
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 2: I think situationally, it's a no brainer for Penn State.

1128
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 2: So I went back and forth on this. I'm gonna

1129
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 2: go with the team that I think has better players

1130
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 2: and more ways to win this game. It's Oregon. Yeah.

1131
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 2: I started out with, Okay, Penn State's winning this game.

1132
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 2: What are the holes I can poke in that theory?

1133
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 2: That's where was my starting point. Penn State should win

1134
00:59:55,720 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 2: this game. Penn State never wins this game. And a

1135
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 2: lot of it is because of the offense. A lot

1136
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 2: of it is because they find quarterbacks develop quarterbacks win

1137
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 2: a ton of games and never this one.

1138
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: What's your final score?

1139
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 2: I wrote down twenty eight to twenty three Oregon. Okay,

1140
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 2: Oregan's allowed one touchdown. They've played a better schedule, not

1141
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 2: a great schedule. They've allot a one touchdown their defensive

1142
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 2: starters of one touchdown this season. And I don't know.

1143
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 2: I think Penn State's good. What proof do we have

1144
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 2: that they're great? I mean, aren't they just sort of

1145
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 2: colder Clemson at this point. If Drew Aller was so good,

1146
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 2: shouldn't he be on an NFL roster right now?

1147
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 1: Listen, everything you're saying I think is true. My question

1148
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 1: about alur in this game is whether Oregon can rattle them.

1149
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 1: You know, like I remain an unabashed Aller apologist here.

1150
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 1: I am waiting for the moment where I feel like

1151
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 1: it all clicks. We haven't gotten there yet, and this

1152
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 1: is last year. Yeah. We did see a couple moments

1153
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 1: in big games last year down the stretch where he

1154
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 1: was very emotional, and I think you could argue it

1155
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 1: affected his decision making, And so far this year, We've

1156
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 1: also seen some interesting decisions when he wasn't rattled. This

1157
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 1: is an ideal spot for Penn State. They get this

1158
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 1: one at home, but it is also a big game

1159
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 1: and he needs to play within himself. And if we

1160
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 1: see Drew Aller doing kind of what he did in

1161
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 1: moments down the stretch a year ago the Notre Dame game,

1162
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 1: I think being a prime example of that on that

1163
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 1: final drive, Drew Aller needs to keep his head to him.

1164
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a guy who lacks composure. I

1165
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 1: just think he really feels the moment. I think he

1166
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 1: has grown into being more of a leader. I think

1167
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 1: it has been a long process and I still think

1168
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 1: he is damn good. But he needs to prove that

1169
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 1: he can withstand a moment like this, a situation like this,

1170
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 1: keep a cool head and prevail. I think that's a

1171
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 1: fair question to ask. And then on the flip side,

1172
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 1: I would say, with respect to your boy Dante More

1173
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 1: who's looked outstanding so far this year, Sure, I want

1174
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 1: to see how Penn State chooses to try and get

1175
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 1: pressure on him.

1176
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 2: I e.

1177
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 1: Can they get pressure without over committing and blitzing. They've

1178
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 1: been able to do it so far this season against

1179
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 1: really bad teams, and we have seen on occasion over

1180
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 1: the last couple of years this is something Penn State

1181
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 1: tends to be very good at without over committing. Because

1182
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 1: their front is so good, they're able to get pressure.

1183
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 1: Can they do that against a good team like Oregan?

1184
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 1: More to your question about offensive line and how it

1185
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 1: gels on the road, hostile night environment where it's going

1186
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 1: to be allowed as crap? How do they deal with

1187
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 1: that Penn State front? Does Penn State have to over

1188
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 1: commit in order to make Kim rattle? History would suggest

1189
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 1: that they can do this. Certainly on the Penn State

1190
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 1: side as well as the Jim Noles side, they're very

1191
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 1: good at figuring out ways to do this. But this

1192
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 1: is the first real team they're playing this year. So again,

1193
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 1: I think it's fair to wonder can Penn State do

1194
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 1: that here? And if they do, what does Dante Moore

1195
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,479
Speaker 1: look like? This is a new situation for him as well?

1196
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 1: And I'll go back to what I said at the top.

1197
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 1: I do think that it's very important Penn State set

1198
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:12,919
Speaker 1: the tone by running the football in the early part

1199
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 1: of the season, for whatever it's worth to you. And

1200
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 1: again take these numbers with the grain of salt. There

1201
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 1: is at least some evidence in the numbers that you

1202
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 1: might be able to run against Oregon, or at least

1203
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 1: a little bit more than you'd expect.

1204
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 2: Their linebackers are inconsistent. There's one or two guys where

1205
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 2: they're playing probably a little bit too much.

1206
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:37,479
Speaker 1: But yeah, roll so, I think that's imperative for Penn State.

1207
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 1: I really do. And much like you, I found myself

1208
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 1: coming into this matchup feeling like Penn State was the

1209
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 1: no brainer favorite to win, and coming out of it

1210
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 1: feeling a lot more leary than I expected. I think

1211
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 1: it ends up being a close affair. I think it's

1212
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 1: a defensive matchup. I don't think you need to be

1213
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 1: thirty or get the thirty points to beat Oregon. But

1214
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 1: I just think Oregon's been better so far this season.

1215
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:09,439
Speaker 1: They have looked better. We've watched all their games, both

1216
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 1: sides of this. I've watched all their games. Oregon has

1217
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 1: looked better. Yep, Ducks go on the road to State College.

1218
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:17,919
Speaker 1: They win twenty six to twenty four.

1219
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 2: Man, You're always wrong, though, Ty.

1220
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 1: Just saying maybe that's why I made this pick.

1221
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 2: I go back to it was floating around the internet

1222
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 2: this past year. What Drew Aller's numbers were when he

1223
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 2: was throwing to Tyler Warren, any when he was throwing

1224
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 2: to anybody else. Like, he's on a string of like

1225
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 2: looking ordinary in nine of his last ten games, with

1226
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 2: like the one being Perdue or Minnesota or something. Minnesota

1227
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 2: was pretty good last year.

1228
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 1: I mean, his completion percentage is sub sixty five, sub

1229
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 1: sixty against you bad teams Leonova whoever subs sixty five,

1230
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 1: like sixty four point eight or something like that.

1231
01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's just he's been recruit washed. Right

1232
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 2: If he were a three star recruit from Mechanicsburg, you'd

1233
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 2: be like, yeah, impressive visit, Like, I don't know at

1234
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 2: a certain point, and maybe he beats Oregon and the

1235
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 2: narrative changes this week and we move on to a

1236
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 2: different Penn State story. But like, his receiving options are

1237
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 2: worse this year than they were last year just because

1238
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 2: of lack of Tyler Warren. But they're gonna win huge games, Okay.

1239
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way, if he were a three star

1240
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 1: recruit from Central Pa, he'd be leading Missouri right now.

1241
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 1: Oh that's true to a playoff bid or an SEC

1242
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:41,439
Speaker 1: title bid. But there you go. That's neither here nor there. Yeah.

1243
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 2: I think Penn State's gonna be really good this year,

1244
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 2: really really good, but like ten and two good.

1245
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 1: There are two early games this week that I think

1246
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 1: I want to mention real quick. Okay, these don't need

1247
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 1: to be full previous, but we have alluded to both

1248
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 1: of them. Friday, seven pm, it's Florida State a Virginia again.

1249
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 1: That is six and a half in favor of Florida State,

1250
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 1: only six and a half. Again, do not understand it.

1251
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 1: I guess there is a look ahead at play here

1252
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 1: for Florida State with that Miami game on deck. But

1253
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 1: UVa's look good. They're very past heavy with Chandler Morris,

1254
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 1: the new quarterback comes over from North Texas. If you

1255
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 1: look at what they've got in front of them, again,

1256
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 1: it's a very gettable schedule. Yeah, very gettable schedule. And

1257
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 1: so if we are talking three months down the line

1258
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 1: and UVA finishes eight and four, nine and three, I

1259
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,439
Speaker 1: don't want anybody to be surprised by that. I still

1260
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 1: don't know how good this team is though, I really don't,

1261
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 1: and I find it to be quite a leap to

1262
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 1: expect that suddenly they are going to be within a

1263
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 1: touchdown of Florida State because I think very highly of

1264
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 1: Florida State. So for me, I think it's Tommy Castellanos

1265
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 1: creating plays off the threat of his legs. I think

1266
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 1: what they're able to do through the air ends up

1267
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 1: being the difference here. It's going to be a differferent

1268
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 1: kind of test for Florida State, to be sure. Yeah,

1269
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 1: but I'm on Florida State here winning and covering on

1270
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 1: the road.

1271
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the points.

1272
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 1: Okay, man, that would be a story if they covered.

1273
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 2: Short week Florida State on the road. Virginia's fine. Virginia's

1274
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 2: defense I still have questions about. But offensively they're pretty crisp.

1275
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 2: They've got a very experienced quarterback. They've been moving the

1276
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 2: ball well, been taking care of business on offense. The

1277
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 2: game is in Charlottesville and Florida State seems like a classic.

1278
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:39,440
Speaker 2: They played one really, really good game and we have

1279
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 2: no data otherwise.

1280
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 1: All Right, I'm gonna switch my pick. You're convincing me

1281
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 1: now the stories we tell ourselves. I'm gonna switch my pick.

1282
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 1: I don't understand this point spread. I should just steer

1283
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 1: into it, right steer in. Is that not the rule?

1284
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 1: Just steer into it.

1285
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 2: Florida State may be excellent, but right now, what the

1286
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 2: evidence we have is a game in which Alabama also

1287
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 2: look looked fully unprepared to compete. So Florida State is

1288
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 2: one way way better than they were last season. They're

1289
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Speaker 2: a way better team this year. But I don't think

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Speaker 2: this is the final version of Florida State. So okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the points this is is it aligns

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Speaker 2: with my belief system. We think Florida State wins though,

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Speaker 2: right I think they sneak by Virginia. Yeah, Friday at

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Speaker 2: nine pm on Fox, TCU on the road at ASU.

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Speaker 1: ASU favored by three and a half.

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Speaker 2: So this is short week after a road game. ASU

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Speaker 2: yep not able to comfortably move away from Baylor after

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Speaker 2: winning the turnover battle three to nothing. Still have issues

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Speaker 2: on defense, still have issues connecting down field on offense consistently.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm going TCU here.

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Speaker 1: I'm warming up to the idea that TCU is going

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Speaker 1: to come out of the Big twelve.

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01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:02,720
Speaker 2: Now this is short week road for TCU, and this

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01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 2: is short week was on the road for ASU. But

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Speaker 2: you're warming up to high ceiling TCU.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like their line. Actually, their line has not

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01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 1: allowed any pressure, and I think Arizona State is just

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01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 1: not creating enough of that pressure for my liking, you know.

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Speaker 1: And what I kept coming back to is, if you're

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01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 1: gonna give Josh Hoover all day back there to sit

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Speaker 1: and pick you apart, he's gonna do it. I really

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Speaker 1: like Joshua. I really like Josh Hoover since the moment

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Speaker 1: he started playing quarterback at TCU, and I think he

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01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 1: just looks really comfortable in that system. We already know

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Speaker 1: it's a quarterback friendly system. But with the Big Twelve

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01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 1: always and forever being in flux, and I think with

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Speaker 1: the start TCU has gotten off to here, they are

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Speaker 1: one of the few teams right now for me in

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01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 1: the Big Twelve that I feel like I can count on.

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Speaker 1: I don't feel like I can count on Arizona State.

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Speaker 1: I certainly don't feel like I can count on a

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Speaker 1: team like Utah, even Texas Tech. I like Texas Tech,

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01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 1: but I don't know if I feel the same level

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Speaker 1: of comfort relying on Texas Tech that I do for

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01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 1: TCU right now. As weird as that sites, I also

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01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 1: think the defense has been better. If nothing more, they've

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01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 1: been better at tackling in the early going here, I

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Speaker 1: think TCU goes to ASU and they went out right.

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Speaker 2: I think so too. I think I'm made on the Frogs.

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Speaker 2: ASU has just been too sloppy on defense. They've been

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Speaker 2: sloppy in the red zone on offense, finishing drives. Like

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Speaker 2: I'm just I'm not there with ASU yet. I think

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01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:32,599
Speaker 2: they're going to be a good team this year. I

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01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 2: just think there is more to fix than I anticipated

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Speaker 2: early on.

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Speaker 1: Now, are there going to be points in this game? Yeah?

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01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 2: I believe so.

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Speaker 1: Are there gonna be big numbers in this game for

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01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:44,680
Speaker 1: Jordan Tyson? Probably?

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'm not expecting this to be and Eric McAllister and

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01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 1: Eric Calster. This is not gonna be twenty four to

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01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 1: twenty three. I think there's gonna be a lot of

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01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 1: points here. I think it's to be a fun Friday night game.

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01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 1: You know, go to the beer store, load up for

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01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:00,280
Speaker 1: this one. This will we get to watch together, but

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01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 1: you get to watch together. Yeah, we'll watch it a

1348
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 1: sports bar. I just I'm in on tc right now.

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01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 1: I have this forty one to thirty five Frogs. So look,

1350
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 1: this is a really big week of games. I don't

1351
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 1: know what we're going to do for the window of opportunity, Okay, frankly,

1352
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 1: we could use a window of opportunity. Being so we're

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01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 1: going to be away from the TVs, or at least

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01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 1: more away from the TVs than we normally would. We're

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01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 1: going to be at the Penn State game. But there

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Speaker 1: are three blocks of games on Saturday that are loaded.

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Speaker 1: The early block also includes Notre Dame at Arkansas. Arkansas

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01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:38,839
Speaker 1: is about a six and a half point home dog, okay,

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01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 1: as well as USC on the road at Illinois Illinois

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01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 1: five and a half point home dog, So some home

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01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 1: dog opportunities in the early slap also some home dog

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01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 1: opportunities in the afternoon slate. Indiana at Iowa, Indiana six

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01:11:55,880 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 1: and a half point road favorite. Ohio State at Washington,

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01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:04,680
Speaker 1: which is a very interesting matchup. High State favored by

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01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:05,719
Speaker 1: ten and a half in the road.

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Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's down. I think it's

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01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:08,719
Speaker 2: down to like eight and a half.

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Speaker 1: Okay. We've also got Tennessee on the road at Mississippi State.

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01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:16,559
Speaker 1: I've got jotted down Tennessee favored by ten on the road,

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01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 1: but that could have changed as well, yep. And then

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01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:21,720
Speaker 1: also in that three thirty block, you've got Auburn now

1372
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 1: looking to rebound after their loss against Oklahoma. They're on

1373
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 1: the road at Texas A and M A and M

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01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 1: favored by about a touchdown. Big block of games, huge,

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01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 1: big block of games. And then on top of it,

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01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:36,320
Speaker 1: the one that we discussed earlier, of course, the LSU

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01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 1: ol Miss game. And then to close things out at night,

1378
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 1: in addition to the Alabama Georgia game, the Oregon Penn

1379
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 1: State game, you've got Arizona at Iowa State. That's an

1380
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:54,599
Speaker 1: interesting matchup, maybe more defeated defeat Arizona. Yeah, Iowa State

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01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 1: favored by about a touchdown there. And then I also

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Speaker 1: included in here this is seven thirty n FS one,

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01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 1: but Apps State at Boise State. Boise State obviously a name,

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01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 1: app State a lot new Boise State's defense kind of stinks.

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01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:09,719
Speaker 2: Dan, is that true?

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01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 1: Kind of stinks?

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01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 2: Okay?

1388
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 1: And I feel like app State is going to be

1389
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 1: able to keep that one within the number. But if

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01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:19,640
Speaker 1: nothing more, it is to G five, G six teams

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Speaker 1: that I think are of interest to the audience. So

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Speaker 1: a bunch of other games. We will talk through. Many

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Speaker 1: of these the deeper we get into the preview the

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Speaker 1: likes of like Duke Syracuse and Louisville, Pittsburgh, Baylor, Oklahoma State.

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01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're interested in that, but Utah

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01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 1: West Virginia could be interesting BYU Colorado late night looks

1397
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 1: like that could be a close affair.

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01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 2: That could be fun.

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Speaker 1: It's a monster week of games, so get your affairs

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