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Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: The Lakers played as about as well as they can play
Speaker 2: in the first half, Joe.
Speaker 1: They were fifty five percent from the three.
Speaker 2: Everybody the ball was moving, even though they had had
Speaker 2: some turnovers. But I thought they shot the ball really well.
Speaker 2: But it's almost like Usain Boat when he was in
Speaker 2: his prime. You knew at sixty meters you might be
Speaker 2: even with it, but you knew he had another gear
Speaker 2: that you couldn't get to, and he was gonna win
Speaker 2: that race. And that's what happened. The Thunder just have
Speaker 2: a gear that the Lakers are just unable to get
Speaker 2: no matter how well they play, and because they can
Speaker 2: hit you from so many different waves a John Mitchell
Speaker 2: was insational tonight. Even though Shade got going late. He
Speaker 2: wasn't an issue issue. Mitchell was. And then you got
Speaker 2: Check being checked, Hartenstein keeping balls alive case and Waller
Speaker 2: comes in. He can't miss Isaiah. Joe comes in. He
Speaker 2: can't miss.
Speaker 3: Carusoe is Caruso on both ends of the court.
Speaker 1: Joe uh.
Speaker 2: The Thunder beat the Lakers one, one oh eight. If
Speaker 2: you look at eight and he's averaging seven less than
Speaker 2: eight points a game, shooting less than forty percent from
Speaker 2: the floor. John Mitchell had twenty four points, ten assess
Speaker 2: four rebounds, three steals, shooting fifty eight point eight fifty
Speaker 2: nine percent from the basketball for the game. Of players
Speaker 2: with twenty points, ten assists, three steals and zero turnovers
Speaker 2: in the playoff game since nineteen ninety, Magic Johnson, Chris
Speaker 2: Paul Tyrese Halliburton and now a Ja Mitchell. Joe, what
Speaker 2: makes the thund I mean, look, I don't even know
Speaker 2: where to start. I mean, you got five what you
Speaker 2: got five guys in double figures? Uh, nobody's really exhausted
Speaker 2: or mean. Shaye played thirty three minutes. They could have
Speaker 2: left him out. I think they just wanted him to
Speaker 2: get twenty points because they increased the league when he
Speaker 2: was on. Yeah again, Joe, what is it? What is
Speaker 2: it about the Thunder is that it does not matter
Speaker 2: who's on the court. It does not matter where they
Speaker 2: are in the game. Those guys come in, they play hard,
Speaker 2: they do what they're supposed to do, and they win.
Speaker 1: Their well or engine fellas, they root for one another
Speaker 1: and the game just comes easy. Those guys, man, you know,
Speaker 1: the system that they're playing in is great. But I know,
Speaker 1: I know you, Ojo ain't surprised about the outcome, are y'all?
Speaker 5: I mean tell you absolutely, if any if anything, Joe,
Speaker 5: I think unk uncle felt they they at least win
Speaker 5: a game.
Speaker 1: I ain't.
Speaker 4: I ain't think I thought they were going to bring
Speaker 4: the broom out. They about to bring the I thought.
Speaker 1: They would win a game two. But when you look
Speaker 1: at the game, Bro, it's like as bad as Shaye
Speaker 1: was playing in their first half, It's like, ain't the
Speaker 1: Lakers as what? They was only up with one or
Speaker 1: two points at the half?
Speaker 2: Ojo, Well, you think they shot level of twenty from
Speaker 2: the three point line, so that's think about. It was
Speaker 2: perfect from the three? What do you call it was
Speaker 2: three or far from the three? I think Lebron was
Speaker 2: two or four from the three, and you're only up,
Speaker 2: You're only up by that margin.
Speaker 1: They don't listen. The defense stinks so bad. Oh I'm
Speaker 1: talking about I'm talking about Listen anybody for OKC on
Speaker 1: the permember, whether it was a j Mitchell, whether it
Speaker 1: was Shay Case and well, I don't care who it was, Bro.
Speaker 1: If they seen the Laker in front of them, they
Speaker 1: went by them. And look, if you can't keep the
Speaker 1: ball under control, I don't care what team. Man, you
Speaker 1: your defense broke down from the jump, so you give
Speaker 1: up dunk slobs, floaters. It's just too much to pick from.
Speaker 1: Hey man, just keep it one hundred. I mean without Luka. Hell,
Speaker 1: they can't even score enough points even stay in the game,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So, I think even when
Speaker 1: you think back to the last series the Lakers played
Speaker 1: against the Rockets, hell, we didn't have them beating the
Speaker 1: Rockets until KD went out, went down, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, they just not high powered enough without Luca
Speaker 1: bro to be able to sustain a high level of
Speaker 1: play to where they can compete with the elites.
Speaker 5: And honestly, Uncle and Joe, I want to ask you something.
Speaker 5: I think even if Luca was playing, obviously Luca probably
Speaker 5: give you thirty seven, do they still have enough? Do
Speaker 5: they still have enough even if you if you add
Speaker 5: Luca to the mix in this series, I think maybe
Speaker 5: the Lakers, maybe he can steal one game. But I
Speaker 5: even think even with Luca, with the way everybody's playing,
Speaker 5: even with Shaye is off, Joe, even when Shae is off,
Speaker 5: we've seen it during the regular season when Shay goes out,
Speaker 5: they don't miss a goddamn beat.
Speaker 4: Like you said, they're well oil engine.
Speaker 5: So I'm not sure what Lakers fans actually expected, you know,
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm uncle UK was kind of tripping when
Speaker 5: you say maybe they could win a game.
Speaker 4: I didn't even think they would win a game.
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 4: I didn't.
Speaker 5: I didn't want to say that because I'm I'm just
Speaker 5: being realistic based off what I've seen from him. Their
Speaker 5: achilles hell has always been their defense. That's the one
Speaker 5: thing we've always talked about when we talk about the Lakers.
Speaker 5: We know Luca could score, we know Lebron could do
Speaker 5: his thing. We know what Austin Reeves could do. You
Speaker 5: don't know what eight and you're gonna get from night
Speaker 5: to night. Margaret Smart is the only viable defensive player
Speaker 5: you do have. There's only one of him on the
Speaker 5: goddamn court. They haven't a got damn bad night. And
Speaker 5: at the half you only got damn up one, two,
Speaker 5: three points.
Speaker 1: Man, they got too many guys who could beat you, Bro.
Speaker 1: You got guys coming off the bench, hell, who probably
Speaker 1: could be starting for for for a team in the league.
Speaker 2: Like Yeah, Wallace. Wallace is definitely because he's a He's
Speaker 2: a two way player. He a three in d guy.
Speaker 2: He can play, hey, he can defend, he can hey,
Speaker 2: he can take you off the dribble, he can shoot
Speaker 2: the three. And I think the thing is uh uh
Speaker 2: Joe and Ojo, is that when you look at it.
Speaker 2: I think the thing and the Lakers turn the ball,
Speaker 2: and see they got two problems. They don't play defense
Speaker 2: and they turn the ball over too much. So now
Speaker 2: you already don't play defense. Now you're giving up easy
Speaker 2: possessions where you're not even you're not even in position
Speaker 2: to a defend.
Speaker 3: And then I'm looking at.
Speaker 2: These guys and this is when I know, I say,
Speaker 2: you know what it's over, Yes, you just packed by.
Speaker 3: Shaye is shooting a free throw.
Speaker 2: He makes the first one, he misses the second one,
Speaker 2: they allow offensive rebound, they kick out.
Speaker 1: And here the three.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you got to be kidding me. The cameras
Speaker 2: called j. J Reddick A thought, John, you're Aiden gave
Speaker 2: up two off fifty rebounds. I can't play him. I
Speaker 2: just can't play it. The broadcast was killing Aiden said
Speaker 2: he wasn't even trying. But see, people get I keep
Speaker 2: telling you, it's excuse me. It's not that he doesn't
Speaker 2: have the ability. He doesn't have the consistency that is
Speaker 2: the problem. Because we've seen yo, we've seen him give
Speaker 2: you twenty and twelve. We've seen him give you eighteen
Speaker 2: and eleven. We've seen that. But we also seen him
Speaker 2: give you four and six, and we also saw the
Speaker 2: effort that he gave you to night.
Speaker 1: It just seemed like it seems as though Aiden just
Speaker 1: kind of be out there going through the motions. You
Speaker 1: don't tell you can tell when a guy really loves
Speaker 1: playing the game of basketball or you know, he just
Speaker 1: out there it's like, this is my job. It's a
Speaker 1: it's a big difference, Fellas. And to me, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think his energy and effort could be way better
Speaker 1: because I know he here a talented guy and they
Speaker 1: need they need him in this series. Bro, they just
Speaker 1: I mean they just they down Beatman Hill. You're down
Speaker 1: thirty three points with Luca. Somebody got a step up
Speaker 1: and play big. But I think Ruy has been playing great.
Speaker 2: Ruy has played great. As a matter of fact, Ruy's
Speaker 2: been their best player in the series. If you look
Speaker 2: at the totality of it's been ruined. See the problem
Speaker 2: is with eighton and this is what we talk about
Speaker 2: it sometime before you go, Joe, he's them foot tall.
Speaker 2: He knows he's gonna have a job in the NBA
Speaker 2: because guess what, there ain't two hundred seven in the world,
Speaker 2: and that damn sure ain't two hundred that can play basketball.
Speaker 2: So when you narrow it down, we talk about Joe
Speaker 2: and women say, well, I want to get it six
Speaker 2: over six foot tall, and I want a guy that
Speaker 2: makes one hundred and fifty five, and I want him educated,
Speaker 2: and I want him real verse. Shoot, okay, I want
Speaker 2: to got some foot tall. I wanted to be able
Speaker 2: to be skilled. What damn you ain't talking about of Hey, Bill,
Speaker 2: you're talking five to ten people. So he knows he's
Speaker 2: going to have a job.
Speaker 5: Hold on, hold on, even even with that mindset, even
Speaker 5: knowing I'm seven feet tall, even knowing I'm gonna have
Speaker 5: a job, no matter what. If you put on that
Speaker 5: goddamn yellow one, that that purple and yellow, that's that
Speaker 5: alone in it self, playing for the goddamned Lakers, the
Speaker 5: historic franchise, you should want to ball out anyway.
Speaker 3: Regardless, Oh joy, it's time to get paid.
Speaker 4: Unc He said he's trying to get paid.
Speaker 1: What we talking If.
Speaker 2: He's gonna get paid regardless, he might not get a MAX.
Speaker 1: We talked to o Ta men.
Speaker 3: We had to chat.
Speaker 2: We had to chat, and people saying, hey, I'm I
Speaker 2: just do the half. If I could work from home
Speaker 2: and make one hundred thousand as opposed to taking my
Speaker 2: ass to work to make two hundred thousand. How many
Speaker 2: people say they stay at home. Think about what we
Speaker 2: talked about, O Yoe. Okay, so now he says, if
Speaker 2: I can make two fifty or I can make one
Speaker 2: seventy five, do it like I'm doing.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: You see, I can do bulgize, make one fifty one
Speaker 2: seventy five, or I can play my ass off and
Speaker 2: make a quarter of a billy. I take the one
Speaker 2: fifty one seventy five. I ain't got to do too
Speaker 2: much out of that.
Speaker 4: Do you really see any NBA player really thinking like that?
Speaker 5: Think about it though, Think about it as hard, think
Speaker 5: about it as hard as you work to.
Speaker 4: Even get to that level. The percentage them the one
Speaker 4: percentage Joe, how could you even have that kind of mindset?
Speaker 4: Maybe he cost don't got.
Speaker 1: Him, O Joe.
Speaker 2: We had the conversation, would you rather make two fifty
Speaker 2: and go to the office or one hundred thousand? What
Speaker 2: did the percentage of the chance say? They would rather take?
Speaker 2: Ojo the rather to be at the crib? Okay, So
Speaker 2: you mean he's human, regardless that he's a professional athlete.
Speaker 2: You gotta realize professional athletes are Michael Tomama Society. All
Speaker 2: you just did was remove him from working a nine
Speaker 2: to five daily paying them an absorbing summer money. But
Speaker 2: some are still undisciplined, Some still have an apithet Lazai flair,
Speaker 2: apathetical attitude. It's just the way it is. He doesn't
Speaker 2: even try tonight, and it's not his fault even if
Speaker 2: he tried.
Speaker 1: They probably lose by fifteen even if he tries.
Speaker 3: But the mere fact that he didn't try.
Speaker 2: I mean, looking at the offensive rebounds, I mean little
Speaker 2: guys getting offensive rebounds, and he's standing there. He had one,
Speaker 2: and he tried to let up, he got it blocked,
Speaker 2: he got it back, and then he missed the whole
Speaker 2: Damn go hold rim. They turned the ball over too much.
Speaker 2: They can't defend. They attack Ar. They look everybody. I
Speaker 2: don't want Marcus small on me. I'm gonna attack Ar.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna attack Luke Canard. I get lu Canar in
Speaker 2: a year eleven or twelve. Luke Canard has never been low.
Speaker 2: But there's no excuse for Ar not to play better
Speaker 2: defense man he has.
Speaker 1: He can't move in puppish like that. Uh, I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at aj Mitchell the way he was going
Speaker 1: at ar Bro I'm talking about it was first move boom,
Speaker 1: I'm blowing.
Speaker 4: Your duty right out of there, y'all.
Speaker 2: That's what Joe, that's what we're asking. Can we can
Speaker 2: we stop the first move? Okay, he tried to go
Speaker 2: to the right. Cut him out there. That's how we
Speaker 2: ask about Joe. That's it, Joe, that's it. You've done
Speaker 2: your job. Make him come back.
Speaker 3: They don't even make the dude counter.
Speaker 5: Hey, we just saynkie beating him out the first step up.
Speaker 3: That's it, Joe.
Speaker 2: You look, it's it's hard because sometimes you got a
Speaker 2: guy he got a bag. He didn't even having to
Speaker 2: get to his bag. He's just going to his first move,
Speaker 2: getting right by. Because the thing is ar is not
Speaker 2: stronging up in his little body because he's trying to
Speaker 2: control it with his little body. You see how he
Speaker 2: played it, Joe, But he's not strong enough down there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's that's a lebron. That's a guy that got a
Speaker 2: big little body that's stronger in the little body that
Speaker 2: you can control it from your hips, but he can't.
Speaker 1: I got a question how many. How many white defenders
Speaker 1: have we seen in the NBA. I mean we know
Speaker 1: carew so.
Speaker 2: Old ball defenders. I can't think of Edith A k
Speaker 2: forty seven was a real protector. You got Mark Eaton
Speaker 2: one defensive Player of the Year. You get guys like
Speaker 2: m but on ball, no, man.
Speaker 1: Hey, it takes a different type of brother man to
Speaker 1: I'm just keeping it real. He think about it in football.
Speaker 1: How many white DB's is in football?
Speaker 3: And a whole bunch, especially at the corner position.
Speaker 2: You got the feeling and you got Riley moss Up
Speaker 2: the coming yes.
Speaker 1: Defenses of one two fellas. You gotta want to sit
Speaker 1: down in that chair. You you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, man, I look at the I look
Speaker 1: at the turnovers. Some of these turnover they just lacked lust.
Speaker 1: It's just like lazy passes. I'm like, damn brounh you
Speaker 1: throw that lazy left hand. Oh you saw that on
Speaker 1: the court. You got the ball to his left handed,
Speaker 1: your thought the guy in the back of the foot
Speaker 1: and then the ball.
Speaker 2: And then I just make you driving. I wasn't the
Speaker 2: only one, because sometimes people think bad you be too.
Speaker 2: I was like, well, I sure, hope somebody.
Speaker 1: State, you can't throw your hands up like it's eighty
Speaker 1: fall or something. I mean, it was just a lazy
Speaker 1: pass and they leaves points, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Next thing, you know, you go from down four to
Speaker 1: now you're down ten. It's like and then it starts
Speaker 1: to just catapult into a fifteen point deficit. Bro That
Speaker 1: that that third quarter kills them every time. Man. I mean,
Speaker 1: they come.
Speaker 2: Out, they come out with the same attitude, with no intensity,
Speaker 2: no fire, and a two point lead. All of a sudden,
Speaker 2: there's an eight point deficit, so they minus twelve. But
Speaker 2: in the process of going minus twelve, they've got seven turnovers.
Speaker 3: The other teams got one. I mean, look, they shot.
Speaker 3: They didn't shoot the ball, bad joe.
Speaker 2: They shot forty seven percent from the floor, forty seven
Speaker 2: percent from the three. They went to the free throw line,
Speaker 2: there was plus ten at the free throw line.
Speaker 1: You see you see OKC shot from the floor. They
Speaker 1: shot fifty six percent.
Speaker 4: Oh, hold on, right in the second half of the
Speaker 4: whole game.
Speaker 1: You're talking about overall the whole game, o Joe. You
Speaker 1: can't win no game, no team shooting fifty six percent
Speaker 1: from the field, forty four percent.
Speaker 4: Hey, Joe, is only one way to stop it.
Speaker 5: To Joe, you got to be able to sit in
Speaker 5: the chair all if all five of you can't do it,
Speaker 5: at least three of you, because you at least they
Speaker 5: got everybody. Everybody there got damn double figures over there.
Speaker 5: And okay, so until you got you got three people
Speaker 5: on the bench and double figures too.
Speaker 2: But o Jo, that's not the issue. The Lakers had
Speaker 2: six guys in double figures. But they but they can't
Speaker 2: defend because see, okay, see can get multiple stops. The
Speaker 2: Lakers can't. That's why the problem is that they fall behind.
Speaker 2: It is so difficult and they exert so much energy
Speaker 2: to get back in it that once they get even,
Speaker 2: the team takes off again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just too much. I mean, okay, see too
Speaker 1: they too much for the Lakers fellas and they it's.
Speaker 3: Really that simple. But they got some tough decisions.
Speaker 1: The Lakers got some tough decisions like what because because
Speaker 1: because they want to sign Aar to a maximum, But
Speaker 1: Aar and Luca in the back court ain't winning you nothing.
Speaker 1: They can't defend.
Speaker 2: They'll have fifty they'll have fifty sixty points between the
Speaker 2: two of them.
Speaker 3: But they're not winning.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they got they got to make They got to
Speaker 1: make some decisions, man.
Speaker 3: Because they gotta get some defens eight and eight answer.
Speaker 1: I been knew he wasn't. I mean as good as
Speaker 1: Marcus Smart as playing defense. I mean, here, this was
Speaker 1: a game you would think the Lakers will win. You're like, okay,
Speaker 1: shape one for eight. Hell, he can't get nothing to
Speaker 1: go down. Everything seem a little short. I thought Margaret
Speaker 1: Smart was doing his job, frustrating and being physical with him.
Speaker 4: He was in his chest.
Speaker 1: That Clinton's score enough points to even get away from
Speaker 1: him a little bit. Him playing bad. It was a
Speaker 1: tie game, bro.
Speaker 2: Yes, Dan and and that the rebounding the Lakers, I mean,
Speaker 2: just like the rebounding is just atrocious. The defense is atrocious.
Speaker 2: They're just a bad basket ball t This is a
Speaker 2: bad matchup for the Lakers. I just thought they could
Speaker 2: win a game. I didn't think they could win the series,
Speaker 2: not if Lebron, not if Lebron rip back to twenty eighteen,
Speaker 2: if they went back to twenty eighteen. Yeah, they could
Speaker 2: win a game. They're not winning the series. I never
Speaker 2: thought for a second they could win the series. But
Speaker 2: this is you got ten, you got six guys and
Speaker 2: double figures. You shoot forty percent from the floor, but
Speaker 2: guess what you allowed them to shoot fifty six percent
Speaker 2: from the floor. They shot worse than you from the
Speaker 2: three point line, but they made three more than you did.
Speaker 1: So that's off same you.
Speaker 4: That's great, a Joe. What the next game at is?
Speaker 3: In La money?
Speaker 4: Money?
Speaker 3: You going?
Speaker 5: Unfortunately, I honestly, honestly, if I was you, you know,
Speaker 5: as as as as a friend, you know, I suggest
Speaker 5: you say that money man, whatever, I don't even even
Speaker 5: even they give you the ciccret free.
Speaker 4: I suggest you.
Speaker 1: Now, they probably when they see you, they may, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, they may get in their bag
Speaker 1: a little bit, bro, Maybe they can still get a
Speaker 1: game here.
Speaker 4: And what what bag?
Speaker 3: I mean gone to your next December?
Speaker 4: They might, they might, Joe, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, come on, I mean, fellas, we gotta be one hundred.
Speaker 1: I mean we kind of seeing this coming now. I
Speaker 1: know uncle's hoping. I was even hoping, hell they would
Speaker 1: win a game, which they still got, they still got
Speaker 1: one more game left. But I never for one second
Speaker 1: thought that they could be Okay. See, they just way
Speaker 1: too deep man, too much depth, too many guys who
Speaker 1: understand how to play with each other. The chemistry and
Speaker 1: continuity that they have is off the charge, Bro, It's
Speaker 1: off the charge. The way they play for one another,
Speaker 1: make plays for one another, the way Hardenstein and Check
Speaker 1: has that relationship ocho to where you know Hardenstein makes
Speaker 1: plays for Check. They just they workaholics. It's just it's
Speaker 1: too much to be okay, see Bro.
Speaker 2: And when you get they getting They got forty four
Speaker 2: points off the bench. The Lakers didn't have bad production tonight, Joe,
Speaker 2: they got what twenty eight twenty nine?
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree they didn't play bad offensively, but
Speaker 1: damn defensively, it's like.
Speaker 2: Every they can't they don't have anybody other than markets
Speaker 2: Mark they can play defense.
Speaker 1: And they look they channeling. It's almost like they channeling
Speaker 1: their man and the aid he.
Speaker 3: A ay namea defander. You you running them into a guy.
Speaker 2: All you doing is like, hey, look we're gonna come right,
Speaker 2: We're gonna bring right here. You make sure you click
Speaker 2: close the door, and I be damn, he closed the door.
Speaker 2: Wants the ball in the basket. Once they they got
Speaker 2: in the house, he closed the door. It's too lame.
Speaker 5: Yeah, adom boyd nasty boy, nasty you know what.
Speaker 4: And in football terms too.
Speaker 5: When I think about it, I think I made this
Speaker 5: comparison not too long ago. Obviously, this is the best
Speaker 5: thing for me to do, is to use football analogies
Speaker 5: that took to compare it to basketball teams. And when
Speaker 5: I look at Okay, see uncle, I forgot what sure
Speaker 5: it was when I compare it to the greatest show
Speaker 5: on turf.
Speaker 4: Really huh, But they did? They really ate Joe. They
Speaker 4: had no weakness. Goddamn Marshall fulk and all them boys.
Speaker 5: When Kurt wanted with the quarterback, it on, every every
Speaker 5: single one, every single game is somebody show.
Speaker 4: It's somebody different.
Speaker 5: You don't know who, you don't know who gonna who,
Speaker 5: gonna who gonna ball out?
Speaker 4: And there is no weakness.
Speaker 1: It's not bro I mean you think on the road
Speaker 1: obviously containing shade the way they did. It's just energy
Speaker 1: and effort that you need from the Lakers. They may
Speaker 1: give it to you for a quarter, Okay, Joe, the
Speaker 1: hell a quarter ain't enough. It's full quarters in the game,
Speaker 1: you know, and you take you take the last two
Speaker 1: quarters off with no energy and effort. Well, that's where
Speaker 1: OKAC thrive at. They wake you down, they wait for
Speaker 1: your ass to get tired. Then they massive gas. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they massive gas.
Speaker 2: But if you think of that third quarter again, they
Speaker 2: come out with no energy and they have a little too.
Speaker 2: I mean, because I think about how soon they wiped
Speaker 2: that lead out. It was only what was it, fifty
Speaker 2: nine to fifty seven? They wiped that lead out and
Speaker 2: it was boom, the game was tied. What was it,
Speaker 2: eighty three all? Seventy three eighty three all? And then
Speaker 2: they go on to ten, they going to thirteen to two.
Speaker 3: Run.
Speaker 5: Think about the turnovers too, though, not the fact that
Speaker 5: not not only kid you not scored with him, but
Speaker 5: you turn the ball over too, and they're getting points
Speaker 5: off your turnovers.
Speaker 4: That ain't making it no easier. On top of that, yeah,
Speaker 4: can't play no damn defense.
Speaker 1: Hey, and then he bring Cleive.
Speaker 3: I just want to try to figure out why he
Speaker 3: brought Cleeve in the game on three.
Speaker 1: Papers those blew out, blow got doll blowed off, got got.
Speaker 3: Turned the ball over and then it off.
Speaker 1: It's a foul he should play.
Speaker 2: If you're thirty up and you're thirty down, you put
Speaker 2: him in the game. Because you got to run the
Speaker 2: time out of But other than that, he can't pay,
Speaker 2: he can't play. No, I mean eight minutes in there,
Speaker 2: he was less harmful.
Speaker 5: You got it, Hey, you gotta understand that pressure man
Speaker 5: wearing that jersey and it's and it's the playoffs to
Speaker 5: the lights, right, Damn.
Speaker 1: They don't need him to be a start. Damn, we
Speaker 1: just need you to buy some little time. Give us
Speaker 1: a few senets. Thank you, bro down. They an needing here.
Speaker 1: They don't even do a whole lot. But so I'm like,
Speaker 1: as soon as he got in, I seen it. Dude
Speaker 1: went right by him scoring Yeah, JJ like here I
Speaker 1: got to get his ass out of it. He played,
Speaker 1: he played it eight minutes long. As what you do, hey, Joe.
Speaker 1: We'll just say, as soon as he got gold blowed
Speaker 1: off going right by, I'm like, man, it was it
Speaker 1: would be interesting.
Speaker 2: I want the broadcast, Hey, Chad, what was the broadcast
Speaker 2: saying about DeAndre Ayton?
Speaker 1: What was dark?
Speaker 2: What was dB and passed saying they could have been
Speaker 2: pleased with that man because he looked he didn't look
Speaker 2: like he carried. Sometimes you look like a guy's carry
Speaker 2: and you could tell, you could tell he got frustrated.
Speaker 2: Uh he shoved no boy in the back. I'm surprised
Speaker 2: they didn't give him a flavorant one.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because they he on the recipient of that,
Speaker 1: uh that pick and roll when they coming downhill as
Speaker 1: soon as look. You know how frustrating it is. That's
Speaker 1: how guys get dumped on. If I'm the center, and oh, Joe,
Speaker 1: you the guard, you can't keep your man in front.
Speaker 1: I gotta keep coming over helping your ass. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be pissed off.
Speaker 5: Too, especially if it's specially if you don't get that
Speaker 5: fast enough, you're gonna you're gonna be on a poster.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 2: And Joe, I'm trying to figure out. I thought, you
Speaker 2: know what, we're gonna run the guys off the three
Speaker 2: point line. Why they walking out there with their hand up.
Speaker 2: Austar Reeves did that? How many times?
Speaker 1: D A did that too? It was Da that let.
Speaker 2: Shake get into a river because proud of that. He
Speaker 2: hadn't made him outside shot everything he had got the
Speaker 2: two lambs and a free throw. But then he hit
Speaker 2: that one shot.
Speaker 1: He saw the ball go in. That was it.
Speaker 2: You see aust Reeds stand up there like this, here
Speaker 2: you see it, bro, run them off the three point line. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And then I saw lou Door put the ball on
Speaker 2: the floor, go away from the basket and kiss it
Speaker 2: off the glass. I said, you got to be kiddingy, Hey,
Speaker 2: that's what hey? Hold on now, I came on downstairs
Speaker 2: started eating a slice of my hold on.
Speaker 4: You got to be careful that right.
Speaker 5: You talk, you about Austin Reed doing a statue of liberty,
Speaker 5: But as soon as you try to run him off
Speaker 5: the three, they're gonna put the ball on the floor
Speaker 5: and go right by you.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Okay, you you rather have? You rather score two
Speaker 2: or three? Because they did that three times, like three
Speaker 2: times in a row. Man, So instead of giving up
Speaker 2: six points, now you gave him a three point?
Speaker 1: Do you have a nine point? Some things you just
Speaker 1: can't explain. I mean, hell, they miss a lay up
Speaker 1: and they beat you. You miss a lay up and
Speaker 1: they beat you down course, It's just like they were
Speaker 1: giving up so many easy baskets and then turn old leader.
Speaker 1: It just sucks the life out of you. Bro, when
Speaker 1: you turn the ball over carelessly like that, You know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I'm watching the game, I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: late that y'all really got a chance, Bro, but it's might.
Speaker 2: Then they turn over Lebron turned it over, aar turned
Speaker 2: it over, uh ds ad and turn it over. And
Speaker 2: the thing is, I'm looking at Lebron, Bro. Now you
Speaker 2: see in the fourth quarter. You see how he was
Speaker 2: going to the fourth going to the old force in
Speaker 2: the third quarter, He's think he's gonna get some calls.
Speaker 2: They haven't given you calls all game, all you season,
Speaker 2: I mean, excuse me, all playoffs long at Prior to
Speaker 2: him shooting these free throws late in the game, he'd
Speaker 2: only been to the free throw line, like, yeah, six times.
Speaker 1: But somehow he thought all.
Speaker 2: Of a sudden, he gonna turn it into shade or
Speaker 2: prime James hard to ENJOYL and B and get to
Speaker 2: the free throw line five times. They not calling that
Speaker 2: either go with authority or just break back the ball
Speaker 2: back out.
Speaker 1: And you gotta give OKC credit. Man, they got good.
Speaker 1: They got great bigs. Who know they roll down. Now
Speaker 1: I'm talking about offense and defense because they wall up,
Speaker 1: they block shots, and they and they hustle.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: They That's the one thing I always say, Bro, can
Speaker 1: be a constant your energy and effort. You can bring
Speaker 1: that ship every game. Bring that every game. But regardless
Speaker 1: of how many points you score, you can bring your
Speaker 1: energy and effort every game. And I feel like for
Speaker 1: the Lakers, they just don't get that from their bigs.
Speaker 1: I mean he had Roochie Ruy, I think he playing,
Speaker 1: he playing well, but hell Broun and Aiden. I mean,
Speaker 1: you gotta match that energy and effort that Hardenstein and
Speaker 1: Check has. I mean they got off to such a
Speaker 1: great start that they didn't even need shading the damn game.
Speaker 2: No, I don't mean Bron got one Bron got one file.
Speaker 2: How you play thirty seven minutes? You only got one file?
Speaker 2: Rud played thirty nine minutes, he got one file.
Speaker 3: Yeah, huh.
Speaker 2: No, of ain't no where you can play that, cleek.
Speaker 2: Not when they're putting the ball on the floor, and
Speaker 2: look if they don't break it, stop waiting for them
Speaker 2: to bring the double team go. He looks fit of
Speaker 2: the brain, the double team. How many times did he
Speaker 2: thought that gonna bring the double Tay it didn't come.
Speaker 2: He ended up turning the ball over.
Speaker 1: Joe had a bit. That's why I tell you it's
Speaker 1: like a It's like a mind game. On the defensive side,
Speaker 1: because if I send the double Brun two times in
Speaker 1: a row, the third time, you know, he expecting that
Speaker 1: damn double to come, and maybe we don't come this time,
Speaker 1: but he gonna be expecting it still looking, you know,
Speaker 1: because he's not in rhythm. He's caught off guard. So
Speaker 1: I think it's tough. It's tough, but I'm you're right, uh,
Speaker 1: you know. I think as as the game started to flow,
Speaker 1: I just don't think Brun got that gear. Bro, he
Speaker 1: ain't got that gear. No, no, no, no nothing. We
Speaker 1: always talk about damn broun't gonna have to have one
Speaker 1: of them games in this series, a thirty five point game.
Speaker 1: You know, it just seems too tough, Bro, It seems
Speaker 1: because he in.
Speaker 2: Order to have a game like that, Joe, you and
Speaker 2: I both know you got to have the energy to
Speaker 2: do it. At forty one, he just doesn't have the
Speaker 2: energy to do it. He's gonna need a charge. That's
Speaker 2: an electric charge. And the faster you go, and the
Speaker 2: pacers they up and dow that pace. Let me, I
Speaker 2: gotta lect your car and the faster I go. I
Speaker 2: just watched that matter of Jaine. They go from one
Speaker 2: hundred ninety six to ninety two. Next thing, you know,
Speaker 2: I gonna come back.
Speaker 3: I said, I just had a full charge.
Speaker 2: I they go with ten miles, but I was going
Speaker 2: faster than the fifty five sixty. When you when they
Speaker 2: played this young man's game and they up and down,
Speaker 2: they shooting three, then you gotta get up and down.
Speaker 2: He doesn't have the endurance to go give you that
Speaker 2: now that game where he can sustain it and give
Speaker 2: you forty give you forty five, maybe fifty. I don't
Speaker 2: see right, No gonna say it.
Speaker 1: Off the bench. Outside of lou Crenard, who the hell
Speaker 1: gonna come in there and really make a difference.
Speaker 2: I like Fierro. Fierro gave some. He gave you eight
Speaker 2: man played at thirteen minutes, gave you eight rebound. How
Speaker 2: he the leading rebound to Joe and please look me
Speaker 2: from Arkansas. I like him too, okay, Ojoe, But guess
Speaker 2: what his energy and effort, that's what they need. But
Speaker 2: here he was so wide open. A few times to
Speaker 2: where he was he was d he wide open.
Speaker 1: Drip. Hey, hey, you've been sitting on that damn bitch
Speaker 1: long enough. Bro, You better get you some chots up.
Speaker 1: You better learn how to shoot in this league. You
Speaker 1: want to play in this league, and you want to
Speaker 1: play for a long time, you're gonna have to learn
Speaker 1: how to shoot. Uh. But I think they got guys
Speaker 1: that's capable, of these young guys. But hell, j Reddick
Speaker 1: ain't got no confidence, none of these dudes. Bro like
Speaker 1: he playing, he literally playing, He playing and starting five
Speaker 1: and in Luke Clenar the rest of them five minutes.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 2: And I like Luca. I thought Luke Canard looked good.
Speaker 2: Look can he shot the ball with authority to night?
Speaker 2: He looking for a shot. They did a great job. Hey,
Speaker 2: he's not a defender.
Speaker 1: He just.
Speaker 2: Look Oh, Jeorge, just like we got a we gotta
Speaker 2: we got a white dB or sat throners. I'm looking
Speaker 2: to cook. Hey, I'm sorry, Hey, strebled eggs, baker ban cakes.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, tell you what it is. That's my right.
Speaker 1: They ain't mellenated enough. I'm gonna just keep it. When
Speaker 1: you know, Luca nar and a r out there together.
Speaker 1: If I'm if I'm on the other team, look at
Speaker 1: Kesey Wallace saying A J. Mitchell Man Shane was on
Speaker 1: the bench boy. They were going to the board left
Speaker 1: and right.
Speaker 2: Yes, you thought like, well, damn, I thought Shane was
Speaker 2: on the bench. How shame get back in the game.
Speaker 1: It's like Larry Bird said, Larry Bird sayd y'all put
Speaker 1: a white gulls that disrespectful. Don't sh up me like that.
Speaker 2: Hey real, I mean it was. I mean it's bad.
Speaker 2: But the thing is, Joe, Look, they made it this round.
Speaker 2: They weren't supposed to go. They weren't supposed to beat
Speaker 2: uh Houston. They beat Houston. I thought they could win
Speaker 2: a game. In my heart of hearts, I thought they
Speaker 2: could win a game. Did I think they can win
Speaker 2: more of the game? Absolutely not, Absolutely not. Not with
Speaker 2: the way they defend. And the only thing is Houston.
Speaker 2: Those young guys ain't smart enough to know they should
Speaker 2: stay on the attack. This team, they y'all can't defend.
Speaker 2: We're gonna attack, y'all at every point. Whoever gets the ball,
Speaker 2: attack the bat. Don't you don't you put don't you
Speaker 2: let him off the hook, but don't you let him
Speaker 2: off the hook. And the thunder didn't let him off
Speaker 2: the hook. That look, I think the best, the best
Speaker 2: matchup is gonna be uh And we're gonna talk about this,
Speaker 2: uh San Antonio because they got defender.
Speaker 1: They got guys, They got.
Speaker 2: Champagne and vassal Vaseail and Castle, they got guys that
Speaker 2: can slide and slide and slide.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But Joe, what I tell you, I say his offense
Speaker 2: is more important than his defense right now, because he's
Speaker 2: gonna give you three to five.
Speaker 3: He don't need twelve, but you get twenty five to
Speaker 3: thirty five.
Speaker 1: As in Trouble.
Speaker 2: The Cavs beat the Detroit Pistons by the score of
Speaker 2: one sixteen to one O nine.
Speaker 1: Now the series is two to one in favor of Detroit.
Speaker 2: James Harden finished with nineteen points seven assists, but he
Speaker 2: had nine of those points in the fourth quarter and
Speaker 2: he had three straight. He had the middle, he had
Speaker 2: a pull up, he had a floater, and then he
Speaker 2: hit a step back three hard and had everything working
Speaker 2: in that fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: The minute was.
Speaker 2: Falling, float game dropping the three ball that really iced it.
Speaker 2: This was this was regular season James Harden. Donovan Mitchell
Speaker 2: came up big. He had thirty five points, ten rebounds
Speaker 2: and four assists. Joe, lucky game or do we God?
Speaker 2: We definitely got a series. I think this is why
Speaker 2: you really bring James harden Over to be able to
Speaker 2: close out a game. Now, can he duplicate? Can he
Speaker 2: duplicate that? Yeah, he don't have to be great throughout
Speaker 2: the whole game. I thought Donovan had a nice rhythm
Speaker 2: to flow throughout the whole game, which he scoring the
Speaker 2: basketball at will. But I blame this loss for the
Speaker 2: Detroit Pistons. I blame this on JB they coach. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna tell you why. Two minutes, two minutes and thirty
Speaker 2: four seconds left from the clock. Y'all on fought back,
Speaker 2: y'all and climbed.
Speaker 1: Y'all were down with fifteen seventeen in the quarter of
Speaker 1: two minutes thirty four seconds on the clock. It's a
Speaker 1: tie game. Kay taking the ball out. I'm screaming at
Speaker 1: the TV. Oh yo, man, y'all one time out. The
Speaker 1: boy dead down time Kate is Kay tried to throw
Speaker 1: the ball in. He turned it over, led to a bucket,
Speaker 1: come right back down, and the screw stuck it. Got
Speaker 1: it right out there, king right back down again, turned
Speaker 1: it over again. They went down. I don't know, I
Speaker 1: can't remember if they scored. They scored, come right back down.
Speaker 1: Kate turned over three times in the row because he
Speaker 1: was so tired. Bro. That ain't that? Ain't k bro
Speaker 1: The man was so tired, so look boom. He finally
Speaker 1: called a timeout because they ended up getting down by four.
Speaker 1: Cay comes out of the timeout. What he do? He
Speaker 1: scored the first five US at the time out? You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? He just needed a breeze. If
Speaker 1: it wasn't for that that two that two minutes and
Speaker 1: thirty four seconds on the clock, if he'd have called
Speaker 1: the timeout and gave that man a quick twenty second,
Speaker 1: he'd came out and been fresh to been able to
Speaker 1: close these boys out.
Speaker 2: I think should have won the bad. Let me ask
Speaker 2: you this, Joe. It also okay, you're down. Why would
Speaker 2: you why would you.
Speaker 1: Take Thompson out and bring Jenkins in?
Speaker 2: You need stops, you don't need offense, because now they're
Speaker 2: gonna put they're gonna put uh Robinson in the pig Yeah,
Speaker 2: they put him, They put him in the piggy roll.
Speaker 2: Now he got boomed. So that's twice. Now he an
Speaker 2: unbelievable shot on on Tobias.
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't I agree with you?
Speaker 2: Uh, I thought, Kate Kate inefficiency in the first half
Speaker 2: really put him behind the eight ball. He was terrible
Speaker 2: in the first half, but you look at him in
Speaker 2: the four, the third quarter and the fourth quarter. He's
Speaker 2: single handedly I mean he didn't single handedly, but he
Speaker 2: brought him back. He hit the three, the game, the lead.
Speaker 1: But like you said, Joe, he was he was out
Speaker 1: of here to turn it over three times in a
Speaker 1: row like that again, Oh Joe, y'all, I mean that
Speaker 1: at the end of the game when you gotta have
Speaker 1: blame it because he couldn't even get back on some
Speaker 1: of them turnovers he was making. You know, that was
Speaker 1: that was that was the crucial point in the game. Bro. Yes, yes, look, yes,
Speaker 1: I think and BIA's hair has given you everything you
Speaker 1: need from in the side kick again, another another fifty
Speaker 1: percent effort, perfect from the free throw line, two or
Speaker 1: three from the three point line. No Tobia's game to
Speaker 1: lead Ta's game, to lead Cade cut it to one,
Speaker 1: Tobias ended up giving him lead.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, Joe, another thing, Oh Joe, explain to me,
Speaker 2: Paul Red is cooking. Why would you take him out
Speaker 2: and put Durham back in?
Speaker 1: Joe, man, you I wouldn't have took him out. But
Speaker 1: you know how you know how it is they he
Speaker 1: felt like he had to get during back in. No,
Speaker 1: you don't.
Speaker 2: Paul Reid was a perfect from the floor. He was
Speaker 2: perfect from the field, perfect from the three point free
Speaker 2: throw line. Yeah, and he's plus eleven. The guys might
Speaker 2: guess who had the biggest minus plus minus, well Jenkins.
Speaker 2: Jenkins was defensily was all over the place. Duran minus fourteen.
Speaker 1: Joe. I mean, he he was getting he was getting
Speaker 1: cooked by Allan h He hadn't been having a great playoffs.
Speaker 1: I think we know that. I think with Allen and
Speaker 1: Mobley playing like this, I still would like to see
Speaker 1: Mobley being a little bit more aggressive. But a man,
Speaker 1: they were the more desperate team. They were the more
Speaker 1: desperate team today.
Speaker 4: They were.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they were tonight. I think I think they obviously
Speaker 5: this game. I understand kid being tired, you know, with
Speaker 5: two minutes left to go, But I'm glad James Harden
Speaker 5: show up, showed up in that fourth quarter, Joe, and
Speaker 5: I'm glad he showed up.
Speaker 4: I think it gets him a little confidence. Obviously.
Speaker 5: Most of the time you think players don't hear some
Speaker 5: of the stuff that is said from fans of some
Speaker 5: of the stuff that said, you know from analysts and
Speaker 5: pundits that that watched the game. But I think this
Speaker 5: is gonna give James Harden a little confidence. Even as
Speaker 5: great as he is and great as we know he
Speaker 5: can do, and some of the things that he can't
Speaker 5: do with the ball in his hands, I think having
Speaker 5: a game like this in the fourth quarter is gonna
Speaker 5: make him that much better and in that game, and
Speaker 5: I think they're gonna get themselves back in the game.
Speaker 4: Hell, God, damn.
Speaker 5: Donovan Mitchell was with thirteen to twenty four for thirty five,
Speaker 5: right right, James Harden could still give them boys won
Speaker 5: them games. He can have an outer body experience like
Speaker 5: that because he used to doing it and just about
Speaker 5: having that confidence to do so. He only had three
Speaker 5: turnovers the night he been He's been killing them in
Speaker 5: the turnovers, damn, they're all series long. But the night
Speaker 5: he minimized those and he showed up when it mattered.
Speaker 1: If I'm d short, I'm trying to keep Duncan Robinson
Speaker 1: off of him. Don't let dog. But that's what that's
Speaker 1: what I did. Standing Joe, Why would you take Why
Speaker 1: would you take Thompson?
Speaker 2: Out, leave Robinson in and then but put Jenkins in
Speaker 2: those are they're not good to fit. I don't want
Speaker 2: none of them guys matched up, because you're gonna take
Speaker 2: Kay and put him on Donovan Mitchell. So I want Thompson.
Speaker 2: I want Thompson on James Harden. So if he gets
Speaker 2: the pick and the pig has to go through Uh Tobias,
Speaker 2: I can live with that, even if the pig has
Speaker 2: to go through Paul Reid. I don't want Duncan Robinson.
Speaker 2: I don't want Jenkins, who's a smaller guy, on James Harden.
Speaker 2: And I definitely, at all costs want no parts of
Speaker 2: Duncan Robinson on James Harden or Donovan Mitchell.
Speaker 3: At any point.
Speaker 1: But it don't matter if be in the game. Un
Speaker 1: if Duncan Robertson, we see don't give damn mooie. Garden
Speaker 1: comes to this and he hey, look, it's like you
Speaker 1: put him on that island by himself.
Speaker 3: He can't.
Speaker 1: He ain't got the foot speed to stay with James
Speaker 1: on that isle. Getting with that left the right cross
Speaker 1: over whatever was so mean to night. I'm like, hold on,
Speaker 1: and once you get a guy going, he made one
Speaker 1: on Nuckie Robinson. Then he got to buy his hair,
Speaker 1: then he get to his flow game. Now he closing
Speaker 1: you out.
Speaker 3: But and that's the thing. It's the same thing with
Speaker 3: Luca as great as Lucas officials.
Speaker 1: They hunt him.
Speaker 3: I don't the defensive me. And so the thing that
Speaker 3: they did really well is that they set to pick
Speaker 3: up high.
Speaker 2: So now you can't bring the double team because if
Speaker 2: I bring it to one of the corners, you're gonna
Speaker 2: bring You're gonna trap me, You're gonna make me give
Speaker 2: it up. I'm gonna bring it, bring it to the top.
Speaker 2: Now one four me and you, baby, Now I have
Speaker 2: this dance. Hey, okay, you know what you're gonna do.
Speaker 2: He gonna ha ha okay, you ain't gone with that
Speaker 2: with ha ha ha ha oh. I see you, you
Speaker 2: lead it, and see you a next thing you don't
Speaker 2: whoop boo.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. And then he see you playing back off that.
Speaker 1: He goes pull up. Hey, I'm gonna get James's proper.
Speaker 1: Bro We've been on this by now coming through and
Speaker 1: you know, I thought this was why they brought him here,
Speaker 1: you know, to come up in great yeah, big situations
Speaker 1: like this in the postseason when they really needed it.
Speaker 1: They need a guy who can really calm things down,
Speaker 1: get to his spots, make plays. I thought he'd done that.
Speaker 1: He was perfect in that fourth quarter. So let's see,
Speaker 1: they needed every They needed every one of those bad ones. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because if it wasn't, I'm telling you Kay was coming back.
Speaker 1: He kept something in his back pocket. In the fourth
Speaker 1: quarter he got he caught. That second nd he got ten,
Speaker 1: and the fourth he had seven.
Speaker 2: He just he because you think about what you're asking him.
Speaker 2: He had a trip, dub. You're asking this man, I
Speaker 2: need you to give me everything offense. I need you
Speaker 2: to score it, need you to rebound, I need you
Speaker 2: to get facilitated for others. But also I need you
Speaker 2: to guard James Hard and Donovan Mitchell. You're asking an
Speaker 2: awful lot. And I know he's young, but out of asking,
Speaker 2: that's putting an awful lot on his plate, especially when
Speaker 2: his second best who's supposed to be his second best player,
Speaker 2: has really given him next to nothing.
Speaker 1: Hey, that's why he get paid the big bucks he got. Well,
Speaker 1: the other guy, he said, hold on, the other guy
Speaker 1: want big bucks too, So when you gonna hurt his
Speaker 1: play yet? Hey, listen, man, they gave himselfs a fighting chance.
Speaker 1: That's all you're gonna ask on the road, man.
Speaker 2: I still believe that I'm gonna be surprised if they
Speaker 2: don't win games Detroit, Detroit.
Speaker 1: They I don't believe. I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't believe Cage is gonna play this bad again.
Speaker 2: I believe Tobias Harrison is in a great great Tobias
Speaker 2: Harrison's played great the last five six games. Tobi, this
Speaker 2: is the best Tobias Harris I've ever seen. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: And maybe it's Detroit. Maybe he has less pressure than
Speaker 2: when he had when he was in in Philly, but
Speaker 2: he's playing phenomenal basketball.
Speaker 1: And Detroit got enough bigs they can throw a Cleveland's
Speaker 1: big they can kind of offset them. Guys. I'll red
Speaker 1: played games Stewart. You know he was decent in the
Speaker 1: minutes that he got. He ain't played for nine minutes.
Speaker 1: But they got enough bigs on show to where they
Speaker 1: can always stay and compete. The thing is, with Kve
Speaker 1: being so young, I'm like, oh, he gonna play better.
Speaker 1: I wonder if James and Donovan can duplicate a great
Speaker 1: performance like they had tonight.
Speaker 2: No, I don't well we're gonna find out James played
Speaker 2: forty minutes, Donalvand played thirty eight.
Speaker 1: We're gonna find out. Well.
Speaker 3: But Thompson ain't no easy out.
Speaker 1: Kate ain't no easy out.
Speaker 2: So there's a reason why they're shooting those percentages from
Speaker 2: the floor. It's because those are two really good defenders.
Speaker 2: Thompson is unbelievable man, Thompson. They switched it off.
Speaker 1: I don't know who that was.
Speaker 2: Maybe it was Donovan, but anyway, he came left, hit
Speaker 2: left Donovan and came all the way back and down.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I'm saying just shouted them an air ball
Speaker 1: before that. He did in the corner now, and that's
Speaker 1: that's probably one of the reasons, Joe. They wanted him
Speaker 1: out because they kind of wanted some offense. But the
Speaker 1: question is, yeah, you want offense, but boy, you had
Speaker 1: a decided disadvantage on the defensive end when you take
Speaker 1: him out, because you now you down one. So you
Speaker 1: got Cave and you still got James Hard and you
Speaker 1: still got Donovan Mitchell, and I still want to make
Speaker 1: it as difficult as I possibly can. Old Harden he
Speaker 1: saw Duncan Robinson on him. He's he ain't millenated enough.
Speaker 1: I'm going at it that. I'm going at his that
Speaker 1: between tween tween tween, right.
Speaker 4: Hey, I like like I like the bed, I like
Speaker 4: the bid to get the boys tying this series up.
Speaker 1: You think you think Cleveland?
Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, listen, I only like it.
Speaker 5: We understand he's had bad performances in the playoffs before,
Speaker 5: but something about you know, the confident due to your Joe,
Speaker 5: you know, a confident due to your that them nine
Speaker 5: points and that fourth quarter might mean the difference, might
Speaker 5: make the difference in that next game.
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I guarantee you. He
Speaker 4: was probably questioning.
Speaker 5: Himself turning the ball over looking like a d they like,
Speaker 5: looking like a days ago. My moves ain't working. Okay,
Speaker 5: I haven't seen a few fall now my float I
Speaker 5: done seen my three go in. Okay, you know what,
Speaker 5: I'm feel a little better. I'm gonna try this next game.
Speaker 5: I'm finna go at their head.
Speaker 2: And the thing was, what because it was Cleveland, I
Speaker 2: mean for this game to get back to what Cleveland
Speaker 2: shot fifty eight percent from the floor. Damn Joe, they
Speaker 2: shot fifty percent from the floor. There was forty three
Speaker 2: of seventy four. I mean Wade was one or two,
Speaker 2: Allen was seven or nine, Evan Morley was four or six,
Speaker 2: Harden was eight or fourteen, Donovan Mitchell was thirteen or
Speaker 2: twenty four, Shrewder was four or five, Merril was won
Speaker 2: two or four. Tyson was one of three, and Streets
Speaker 2: was the only one that shot up basically under fifty percent.
Speaker 1: He was three or seven.
Speaker 2: He shot down in the sixty percent, and it took
Speaker 2: it took Kay turning the ball over three consecutive times
Speaker 2: for them to pull that out.
Speaker 1: I don't believe Kate and Kate is such a mismatch
Speaker 1: on that they don't got nobody who can guard it.
Speaker 1: I mean the shot, no, it ain't, you know. I
Speaker 1: mean Headley missed a shot, but he getting to his spots.
Speaker 1: He getting every shot. I mean, hell, they got the
Speaker 1: d Wade dude chasing him because you can't put hard
Speaker 1: in a miss on him. You know what he gonna do?
Speaker 1: You know what he them? Who you go for fifty?
Speaker 1: So I think Detroit and they in a good spot.
Speaker 1: You're right, I mean he had a shooting fifty seven
Speaker 1: percent from the field. You're supposed to probably win this game.
Speaker 1: By a dug.
Speaker 2: Easy, easy, but give the give the Cavaliers credit. They
Speaker 2: knew their back was against the walls. They knew they
Speaker 2: could I'll afford to go down three zero. The likelihood
Speaker 2: of them coming back and winning four straight wasn't very good,
Speaker 2: especially when three of the four gonna be yea in Detroit.
Speaker 3: Detroit. I didn't see that happening. I ain't see that happening.
Speaker 2: So we'll see what. We'll see what. Let's see what
Speaker 2: adjustments Detroit made. But obviously they had to feel good
Speaker 2: the back court. This is why you brought those guys together,
Speaker 2: two veteran players, James Hard and Donovan Mitchell. When you
Speaker 2: needed buckets, they delivered. They combined for fifty four points,
Speaker 2: twelve rebounds eleven or since they only had six, they
Speaker 2: only had three turnovers the police.
Speaker 1: You could live with that. It was I mean, two
Speaker 1: politics scores at that, But I still think Detroit has
Speaker 1: the perimeter guys who can slow those guys down. Donovan
Speaker 1: just get into a nice little rhythm to where he
Speaker 1: was attacking. He was downhill all night. I like to
Speaker 1: see him. I like to see him playing like that,
Speaker 1: being aggressive, and James was just kind of podestrian, just
Speaker 1: kind of controlling things until that to the last few
Speaker 1: minutes of the game. He really opened it up. He
Speaker 1: really opened it up for him because boy, it was
Speaker 1: not looking good. No, but I don't believe, Joe.
Speaker 2: I believe If Kay doesn't turn that ball over three
Speaker 2: consecutive times.
Speaker 1: I think he get I'm telling you, manying, I'm screaming it.
Speaker 1: Please take one time out. The boy is doll tied
Speaker 1: out there. You can you can see it, and them turnovers,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh yeah, yeah, three in a row under
Speaker 1: two minutes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he'll own it. Last night San Antonio Spurs
Speaker 2: took a two to one lead. Victor women Yama joined
Speaker 2: some very exclusive joined a very exclusive club. Shaquille O'Neill,
Speaker 2: Quem Elijah Wan, Kareem Adua Jabar are the only players
Speaker 2: in NBA history with thirty five plus points, fifteen plus rebounds,
Speaker 2: five plus blocks in a playoff game. Shaq did it
Speaker 2: three times, Quem Elijah Wan did it three times, Kareem
Speaker 2: did it twice, and now Victor Wibbin Yama, who happened
Speaker 2: to be years of age, has done it.
Speaker 3: He was phenomenal. And then he hit Rudy with.
Speaker 2: That high car Keem turned around a Chris fin said enough, Paul,
Speaker 2: no get it there. He started cooking team, he started
Speaker 2: pulling up from the three and now you can do
Speaker 2: with that.
Speaker 1: But we get going. If women get going like that
Speaker 1: offensively on Rudy, hell, you gotta take him out because
Speaker 1: if Rudy ain't playing great defense, it ain't a whole
Speaker 1: like hes gonna be able to give you if we
Speaker 1: just keeping it real. Ives got a better bag. Obviously,
Speaker 1: he can shoot the three. You know, he can go
Speaker 1: off the drib wh he can create, he can fight him.
Speaker 1: But I mean, this is one of those games thirteen
Speaker 1: for eighteen from the field, bro five blocks. He was
Speaker 1: so muddy and he was frustrated pretty much the whole night,
Speaker 1: you know, because they kept they was extra physical with him.
Speaker 1: And that's how you got bro. They were that's how
Speaker 1: you gotta beat. But the great ones, they able to
Speaker 1: tap into something else. They take him to a whole
Speaker 1: other level. And you know what's what's crazy. It's like
Speaker 1: as big as a big as big as an advantage
Speaker 1: that he has when he's in the paint. If he
Speaker 1: go to making them down threes, them jump shot, you
Speaker 1: can't do nothing, bro, No, it's nothing you can do.
Speaker 1: He's shooting two three feet behind the line. I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, Minnesota.
Speaker 5: Hey, at that, at that point, Joe, you got to
Speaker 5: pick you. I mean, you get pick your poison. You
Speaker 5: wanted that fast, you wanted that slow. Either way you're
Speaker 5: gonna die fast.
Speaker 1: They got too much.
Speaker 2: It just I mean, there's nothing you can do because
Speaker 2: the thing is, Joe, we're talking about what's more?
Speaker 3: What is he more valuable?
Speaker 2: He's gonna give you three to five blocks just because
Speaker 2: he's seven four, Yeah, and then he's gonna alter another
Speaker 2: five shots.
Speaker 3: But when he's giving you those count of that point.
Speaker 1: Total offense, what you're gonna do with that?
Speaker 3: Damn?
Speaker 2: I mean, he gave you thirty nine. Castle gave you thirteen.
Speaker 2: Vassal gave you thirteen, Fox gave you seventeen. Kelton Johnson
Speaker 2: gave you a lever. Harper came off the bench.
Speaker 1: Gave you eight. They just he played like that.
Speaker 2: They that's that's unbeatable. You ain't got no answer to it.
Speaker 2: You who won't block that shot? That turnaround? First of all,
Speaker 2: he jumping, he's seven four and a half when he
Speaker 2: jumping and shooting it from a nine and a half
Speaker 2: foot eight.
Speaker 1: That's why, that's why when the Spurs meet the thunder
Speaker 1: Unk and Ocho, that's gonna be a series, man, because
Speaker 1: you got all the guys on your team who can
Speaker 1: sit in that chair and lock up and play defense.
Speaker 1: Not only that, Hell, if you do manage to get
Speaker 1: by him, look what you got to run into. Bro.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, it's just the Spurs a great team, bro,
Speaker 1: from top to bottom, from top to bottom, I mean
Speaker 1: just like Okay, see, they got everything you could want
Speaker 1: from playmaker, scores, defenders, rem protectors, and they have it all.
Speaker 1: They just got to continue to keep putting it together.
Speaker 1: I know they're a young team, and you know we
Speaker 1: stay harping on that, but man, it look like they
Speaker 1: prepared and they ready for the moment. Fellas, but I.
Speaker 2: Think you Randa's gonna have to give him more. Jon
Speaker 2: Jadon McDaniels, Joe five or twenty two, j Randal.
Speaker 1: Three or twelve.
Speaker 3: That's eight of that's eight of thirty four.
Speaker 2: You're not winning, You're not you're not beating you're not
Speaker 2: beating san Antonio with those shooting those numbers.
Speaker 1: I just don't Yeah, you're right, they I don't think
Speaker 1: they got enough. I'm gonna be honest and man head
Speaker 1: thirty two and fourteen twelve for twenty six. I like
Speaker 1: to see him back, you know, in a tag mode
Speaker 1: like he was. But they, I mean, they just ain't
Speaker 1: got enough, dude, you know what I mean? Like if
Speaker 1: we just being one hundred, they just ain't got enough.
Speaker 1: Because you need you need not only do you need
Speaker 1: Edward's and man to play great, Yeah, you need. I like,
Speaker 1: I like Jay McDaniel's aggressives. Now I ain't don't take
Speaker 1: that away, but this is what we're talking about. When
Speaker 1: you got guys who can really defend. Who is that?
Speaker 1: Oh uh? They played differ in that first round and
Speaker 1: he was kind to get what he wanted. San Antonio
Speaker 1: got guys, bro who's gonna make it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is some tough with But you gotta you
Speaker 2: gotta shoot that over for Sale, you gotta shoot that
Speaker 2: over Champagne, you gotta shoot that over Stephan Castle. That's
Speaker 2: that's different than Christian Brown. That's different than Bruce Brown.
Speaker 2: That's a whole that's different than Cameron Johnson. That's a
Speaker 2: whole different ball in him. If you do get by them, dudes,
Speaker 2: Shit you gotta go in there and then with big fella. No,
Speaker 2: I want that, so you got he Hey, hey, you
Speaker 2: gotta make a lot of jump shots.
Speaker 1: That's why you see. You see a man out there
Speaker 1: shooting them middies and them floaters and them A no't
Speaker 1: even trying to get our way to the rack when
Speaker 1: he down there.
Speaker 2: You know what, Hey, that's where you go there with
Speaker 2: their whole No, there wasn't home, Mama, Yeah it was home.
Speaker 2: I just didn't want to do with it.
Speaker 3: I ain't they would to go in there, the home
Speaker 3: but the bigger women, y'all. But he was, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3: I mean just watching him and the effort that what
Speaker 3: he plays with.
Speaker 2: And people don't realize it takes a lot when you
Speaker 2: that big, It takes a lot of oxygen to fuel
Speaker 2: your body. And he give it everything he got. He
Speaker 2: up and down the court. I mean, he's challenging shots.
Speaker 2: They call him five ye hey, And I love that.
Speaker 2: His coach said, we not bringing your big ass out.
Speaker 2: Stay in there. Just be smart.
Speaker 1: Hey, be smart, you got five now. I like his demeanor,
Speaker 1: the way his approach to the game. You can sell
Speaker 1: all business, Ojo. The man don't want to do. He
Speaker 1: don't want to do one thing, and that's when you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I think that's very effectious to
Speaker 1: the young team they had. They follow his lead, bro like, Hey,
Speaker 1: san Antonio is gonna be good for quite some time? Boy?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes? Castle? Uh is it only in the
Speaker 2: second year? Women Yama only in his third year? You
Speaker 2: got you got Vassal, you got Champagne, you got Dylan Harper.
Speaker 2: The question of Joe.
Speaker 1: With Vassal for sale? Excuse me? Uh?
Speaker 3: Castle and uh uh Harper? Can you keep all three
Speaker 3: of them?
Speaker 1: I think I think that the person who probably gonna
Speaker 1: be the eye man out of Fox. You think so? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna bring I think they're gonna they're
Speaker 1: gonna groom Daling Harper to play the point. He's gonna
Speaker 1: be the point called him and Castle they're gonna play
Speaker 1: the one in the two I think, and the if
Speaker 1: you just want me to keep it one hundred a
Speaker 1: couple of years, that's how it's gonna be. Yeah, you can't.
Speaker 1: I think Daling Harper he is special, hunky ojo. He
Speaker 1: didn't playing on this hell of a team, so you
Speaker 1: know he had moments and he gonna have nicer where
Speaker 1: he gets twenty five and thirty, but for the most
Speaker 1: part he just has to be pedestrian. He ain't gotta
Speaker 1: be great. You know, they they got, they got, They
Speaker 1: got too many guys. They got so many guys who
Speaker 1: can go off the dribble, who can create score playmate,
Speaker 1: And he's one of them.
Speaker 2: So I think, yeah, you grew and Dylan Harper them
Speaker 2: to beat the point guard and Basale. I mean, but
Speaker 2: basil Is is such a good defender that he didn't
Speaker 2: shoot the three. None of them really shot the three
Speaker 2: well last night other than Victor Win Miyama, nobody else
Speaker 2: killed in Johnson he had a couple of Carter Bryant
Speaker 2: with two for but you look at Champagne, he was
Speaker 2: two of six, Victor was three or five, and then
Speaker 2: Fox was one of five, Basil.
Speaker 3: Was one of six, and Castle was one of three.
Speaker 3: But Darren Fox is so mad.
Speaker 2: That quick man, that jo quicker of the cattle on
Speaker 2: the marble table, Joe Man, that Joe Hey, he got
Speaker 2: that ball of the rob of the key.
Speaker 1: He start and they cut him up. Well he's back up,
Speaker 1: go again. He stopped. They crossed over. Whoop. I like
Speaker 1: my guy and when you got all when you surrounded
Speaker 1: by all these weapons that he's surrounded with, you can't
Speaker 1: really help. You have to deal with the results though,
Speaker 1: so you have to play one on one hair you
Speaker 1: help out winby all he gonna do. He gonna close
Speaker 1: his eyes and throw their thing up there. That boy
Speaker 1: gonna dunket backle. You see what I'm saying when you
Speaker 1: think about it, how they started the game yesterday? Uh him,
Speaker 1: I ain't even think the Timberwolf is gonna get double
Speaker 1: fingers in the first quarter.
Speaker 2: Yes see, I thought I was like, man, but I
Speaker 2: thought that I thought they were about to blow him out.
Speaker 2: Give the Timberwolf's credit, they stuck stuck in there. But
Speaker 2: you know, I thought Minnosota said san Antonio, I get
Speaker 2: it because they started going for the juggler. They started
Speaker 2: taking a lot of etherviudes shot like hold on, hold on,
Speaker 2: they tried to get they try to get them guys
Speaker 2: up out of there. But I love the way they
Speaker 2: started the game because they started the inside out, back
Speaker 2: to back to back duk and man, look here the woman, y'all,
Speaker 2: how he get he getting the rebound and and all
Speaker 2: in one motion he get the rebounds and shoot it
Speaker 2: back at it in one motion. Joe, I ain't never seen.
Speaker 1: It like this.
Speaker 5: Hey, when you're that tall man, you got an advantage on.
Speaker 5: It's a lot of things you gonna see him do
Speaker 5: we ain't seen before?
Speaker 1: Man? Hey, look.
Speaker 2: He is Yeah, he is a he phenomenal And some
Speaker 2: of the shots that he was making off the glass,
Speaker 2: he hit some shots down the stretch. I said, yeah,
Speaker 2: he that's the that's he has everything you need to
Speaker 2: be a superstar. He has the mindset, he has the game,
Speaker 2: he has the poise, and he's on a team that.
Speaker 3: Them joke, they believe he hung the moon boy, or
Speaker 3: at least drove it.
Speaker 1: Happy with that man, he he just just the watching. Hey,
Speaker 1: look think about this. As great as Nicola Yoka chis,
Speaker 1: he couldn't have no game like this against Rudy last series. Look,
Speaker 1: it's different different, a different different, no, no doubt too.
Speaker 4: Totally different style of play.
Speaker 1: Who being Yama he's more like a guard. Okay o, Joe,
Speaker 1: he just in that big ass body. He can't you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yes, because the way he be
Speaker 1: handling and dribbling on Rudy, it's like a cone drill man.
Speaker 1: Come on, I'm serious, like and don't look it's like
Speaker 1: drill man, you're a cold home. I'm just I'm out
Speaker 1: here working on my game. You ain't what you can't
Speaker 1: do nothing with it? You're right, I mean, I mean
Speaker 1: think about it.
Speaker 2: Rudy Rudy seven to seven three houra tall, Rudy is
Speaker 2: bro Ain't no guy, ain't no guy going to defend.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, Elijah was a defender, but Juan
Speaker 3: was six nine sixteen tops.
Speaker 1: Laja want to.
Speaker 3: Play soccer also, so you had nominal fut that's wise.
Speaker 4: Offensive game was so great, nomenal football.
Speaker 1: But if you a big guy, you need to go
Speaker 1: see a lot every big guy.
Speaker 2: Damn hel you want pay that fifty thousand, go get
Speaker 2: that three four eight tutorial.
Speaker 1: And I got some two lists from from the little
Speaker 1: time that I played with the Rockets. Look, he should
Speaker 1: have play three on three with me every day, Okay,
Speaker 1: y'all gonna well, he's on the same team, running running
Speaker 1: them young boys up out of them. He make three
Speaker 1: on three with us every day. No, Lie.
Speaker 2: Man, Victor Wimen and y'ama he Jordan shot Kaquem Olija
Speaker 2: Wan and Kareem. I do at your bar is the
Speaker 2: only player in the NBA history with thirty five plus points,
Speaker 2: fifteen plus rebounds.
Speaker 3: Five plus blocks in a playoff game.
Speaker 2: Shot did it three times, Keem did it three times,
Speaker 2: Kareem did it three times, and now Wimby is.
Speaker 1: In that legendary group.
Speaker 2: Thirty five plus points, fifteen plus rebounds, five plus blocks
Speaker 2: in a playoff game. And they needed it every single point,
Speaker 2: every single rebound, every single block.